From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 1 00:28:26 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA082304105; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 00:28:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09303; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 00:27:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 1 Oct 1996 00:22:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08834; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 00:22:34 -0400 Received: from park.interport.net (park.interport.net [199.184.165.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08825; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 00:22:30 -0400 Received: from walrus (edb.port.net [204.74.8.50]) by park.interport.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA08320 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 00:22:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961001043514.006de8f4@199.184.165.2> X-Sender: edb@199.184.165.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 00:35:14 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Ed.Q.Bridges" Subject: info please i would like to join this list. _____________________________________________ | Ed.Q.Bridges | edb@interport.net / 718.387.7148 ebridges@sitespecific.com / 212.206.6600 |_____________________________________________| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 1 09:44:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA131127460; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 09:44:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20085; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 08:25:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 1 Oct 1996 08:21:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19570; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 08:20:58 -0400 Received: from mordor.cs.du.edu (mordor.cs.du.edu [130.253.192.87]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19561; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 08:20:55 -0400 Received: from nyx.net (nyx.nyx.net) by mordor.cs.du.edu with SMTP id AA28328 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 1 Oct 1996 05:54:14 -0600 Received: by nyx.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22128; Tue, 1 Oct 96 06:20:43 MDT Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 06:20:42 -0600 (MDT) From: Name withheld by request To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: linux / X on 760L? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Has anyone got X running on the 760L yet? I managed to get Debian loaded just fine, but there is a grievous problem with the mouse. Tried all the devices in /dev but nothing works. One of the earlier X dumps indicated /dev/bvmouseps2, but I have no info on that device. Do you have any ideas? Thanks! clueless From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 1 11:31:17 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA145593873; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:31:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08482; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:30:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:24:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07715; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:24:34 -0400 Received: from albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu [128.52.46.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07709; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:24:32 -0400 Received: from ELN/hmt.earthlink.net by albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12GNU) with SMTP id LAA17159 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:24:20 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0b28.32.19961001082318.00697f30@psa.pencom.com> X-Sender: rickt@psa.pencom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b28 (32) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 10:29:46 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Rick Tait Subject: NT 4.0 on 760c w/24MB Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Anyone got NT 4.0 on a 760c? Any concerns/worries/caveats I should be looking out for? Is 24MB enough? Win95 on my machine with 24MB is great - will NT with the same amount suck? Worried in Dallas, .rickt -- I'm as anxious as a hungry baby in a topless bar. Motto: If it logs in, shoot it. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 1 11:59:15 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA149615553; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:59:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11684; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:57:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:46:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10351; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:46:45 -0400 Received: from mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.129.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10310; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:46:29 -0400 Received: from jloyless ([207.146.129.214]) by mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA9873; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 15:45:53 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0b26.32.19961001114553.0130baf0@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> X-Sender: jloyles@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net Disposition-Notification-To: X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b26 (32) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 11:45:58 -0400 To: Rick Tait From: Jane Loyless Subject: Re: NT 4.0 on 760c w/24MB Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:29 AM 10/1/96 -0500, you wrote: >Anyone got NT 4.0 on a 760c? >Any concerns/worries/caveats I should be looking out for? >Is 24MB enough? Win95 on my machine with 24MB is great - will >NT with the same amount suck? > We're running it on a TP750Cs with 20MB, a TP755CE with 32MB, and a TP755CX with 32MB. It's a slug, but we didn't have any problems getting it installed and working. YMMV. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 1 12:12:38 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA151716357; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:12:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13684; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:10:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:08:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13234; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:08:12 -0400 Received: from psi.com (psi.com [192.67.6.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13226; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:08:07 -0400 Received: from qtny.quantime.com by psi.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI) id MAA16398; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:08:24 -0400 Received: from quantime.co.uk by qtny.quantime.com; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:07:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tiree.quantime.co.uk (tiree) by quantime.co.uk; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:07:28 +0100 Received: from qtc1 by tiree.quantime.co.uk; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:06:46 +0100 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961001161055.00f0051c@tiree.quantime.co.uk> X-Sender: ajudd@tiree.quantime.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 17:10:55 +0100 To: Rick Tait , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Alex Judd Subject: Re: NT 4.0 on 760c w/24MB Running it on a 755CD with 24MB memory. Works great, installs fine, even uses MWave for NT fine (so far). Things to watch out for are huge diskspace eating and sppeeeeeedddd. Alex At 10:29 AM 10/1/96 -0500, Rick Tait wrote: >Anyone got NT 4.0 on a 760c? >Any concerns/worries/caveats I should be looking out for? >Is 24MB enough? Win95 on my machine with 24MB is great - will >NT with the same amount suck? > >Worried in Dallas, >.rickt > >-- >I'm as anxious as a hungry baby in a topless bar. > Motto: If it logs in, shoot it. > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 1 12:30:48 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA154727446; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:30:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15982; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:29:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:26:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15727; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:26:43 -0400 Received: from bolero.rahul.net (ndanger@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15714; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:26:36 -0400 Received: by bolero.rahul.net id AA04969 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 1 Oct 1996 09:26:26 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 09:26:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelly Lute Subject: Winos2 video problem To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm having a problem with a 760C that can't run winos2 windows on the OS/2 desktop. It seems to be a conflict with the Trident video drivers. I can either have the machine in VGA mode and winos2 works ok, or I can install the trident drivers and winos2 gets whacked. The apps look like they're starting for a few seconds then terminate without error messages. How do I install winos2 and the trident drivers at the same time??? Any clues would be appreciated. Thanks. ******************************AREA 51!*********************************** * Mr. Kelly Lute * Revel in the strangeness of my webpage at * * Reverend Doktor Chunk * http://www.rahul.net/ndanger/index.html * * ndanger@rahul.net * FEATURING "THE EROS SPACE GALLERY" and more! * ******************************AREA 51!*********************************** X-ray Delta One to Mission Control - Transmission Concluded From owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Oct 1 14:51:41 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA176035900; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 14:51:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25004; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 14:04:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:58:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24460; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:58:06 -0400 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24440; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:57:57 -0400 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id OAA12430; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 14:00:06 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 14:00:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Christian Carey To: Alex Judd Cc: Rick Tait , thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: NT 4.0 on 760c w/24MB In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961001161055.00f0051c@tiree.quantime.co.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tuesday, 1st October 1996, Alex Judd wrote: > Running [Windows NT 4.0] on a 755CD with 24MB memory. Works great, > installs fine, even uses MWave for NT fine (so far). Things to watch > out for are huge diskspace eating and sppeeeeeedddd. The only hardware on which I've seen Windows NT run quickly is on an Intel Pentium Pro and a DEC Alpha. (I haven't seen Windows NT on the other non-Intel platforms, so I don't know how it performs on those.) Regarding the disk appetite, are you using a FAT partition or NTFS? If your hard disk is set up as a single FAT partition, then it's not surprising that the free disk is disappearing quickly. Christian. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 1 15:00:08 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA176716405; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 15:00:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00935; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 14:58:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 1 Oct 1996 14:56:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00679; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 14:56:38 -0400 Received: from is.nyu.edu (root@IS.NYU.EDU [128.122.253.134]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00673; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 14:56:32 -0400 Received: from DIAL5-3-ASYNC-04.DIAL.NET.NYU.EDU by is.nyu.edu; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/23Sep94-1121PM) id AA20081; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 14:56:25 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961001185624.0090e83c@is.nyu.edu> X-Sender: mdk1143@is.nyu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 14:56:24 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Klenner >To: Christian Carey >From: Michael Klenner >Subject: Re: NT 4.0 on 760c w/24MB > >At 02:00 PM 10/1/96 -0400, you wrote: >The only hardware on which I've seen Windows NT run quickly is on an Intel >Pentium Pro and a DEC Alpha. (I haven't seen Windows NT on the other >non-Intel platforms, so I don't know how it performs on those.) Regarding >the disk appetite, are you using a FAT partition or NTFS? If your hard >disk is set up as a single FAT partition, then it's not surprising that >the free disk is disappearing quickly. > >Christian. Christian, The overriding factor which effects speed when running WinNT on *ANY* platform is RAM availability. Where running Win95 on more than 32 Megs is pretty fruitless as it doesn't get used, I can say from vast experience that NT really isn't worth running on anything with LESS than 32 Megs. In fact I reccomend a RAM platform of at least 64 Megs to anyone who really wants to see speed from NT... I run NT 4.0 Workstation on a P-133 with 80 Megs of RAM and about 9 Gigs formatted NTFS. It's PLENTY fast. In point of fact, this particular arrangement is faster than the P6-Pro-200 with 48 Megs of RAM that I put together a couple of weeks ago, which strongly suggests that RAM is the bigger issue. Bottom line: WinNT is a memory hog. It always has been, but if you can afford the RAM, it's a hell of an O/S. I'll stick to Win95 on my 755cx because I do most of my speed sensitive work on my destop anyway, and '95 still makes a pretty good client to my NT machine. When I decide to shoehorn a 32 Meg card into the 'Pad I'll think about putting NT on it, but not until then. -Michael --- Michael Klenner East: klennerm@is.nyu.edu New York University West: mklenner@pacificnet.net Tisch School of the Arts http://pages.nyu.edu/~mdk1143 Institute of Film & Television talk: michael@24frames.com --- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 1 15:44:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA184719043; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 15:44:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05418; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 15:42:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 1 Oct 1996 15:39:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05110; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 15:39:35 -0400 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05103; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 15:39:27 -0400 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id PAA22180 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 15:36:02 -0400 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199610011936.PAA22180@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: PCMCIA modem under DOS on TP750Cs To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 15:36:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, My recently acquired TP750Cs came with Win95 installed. However, I need to access my PCMCIA modem (AT&T Keep In Touch 14.4) from DOS without entering Win95. I have downloaded the latest PCMCIA Features disk, which gives me the Card Services drivers. I can see the modem from EZPLAY, but I cannot access it from a DOS comm program. The modem works fine under Win95 and a DOS shell under Win95. I've read the FAQs and other files for the TP750 and have come to the conclusion that I'm missing some drivers, including point enablers, etc. And I recall reading that there are some PCMCIA drivers that come with IBM PC-DOS, which I do not have. I am also missing the driver disk (if any) for my modem. Are there any publicly available drivers which will allow me to use the modem under DOS? Or some kind of workaround? Or could someome make the IBM PC-DOS drivers available (since they would have been in my PC-DOS disks anyway)? Thanks, Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the ^^ PLEASE NOTE CHANGE ^^ world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 1 16:22:57 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA191571376; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 16:22:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09287; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 16:21:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 1 Oct 1996 16:18:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08882; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 16:18:52 -0400 Received: from server1.capaccess.org (server1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08868; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 16:18:47 -0400 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by server1.capaccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA55879 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 16:14:48 -0400 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id QAA27724; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 16:20:47 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 16:20:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Christian Carey To: Michael Klenner Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: NT 4.0 on 760c w/24MB In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961001185624.0090e83c@is.nyu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tuesday, 1st October 1996, Michael Klenner wrote: > I can say from vast experience that NT really isn't worth running on > anything with LESS than 32 Megs. No argument here! > I run NT 4.0 Workstation on a P-133 with 80 Megs of RAM and about 9 Gigs > formatted NTFS. It's PLENTY fast. I haven't seen it run on a Pentium with that much RAM, so I'll bow to your first-hand experience. > Bottom line: WinNT is a memory hog. Again, total concurrence. > When I decide to shoehorn a 32 Meg card into the 'Pad I'll think about > putting NT on it, but not until then. And so, getting back to the original query - what is the RAM capacity of a 760C? If the fellow wanted to have reasonably performing Windows NT, how much would it cost him (approximately) to get the RAM to get the performance? Christian. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 1 17:29:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA200045344; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:29:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15148; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:27:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:24:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14889; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:24:40 -0400 Received: from ns.moneng.mei.com (ns.moneng.mei.com [151.186.180.75]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14873; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:24:26 -0400 Received: from atlas.mei.com (atlas.mis.mei.com) by ns.moneng.mei.com with SMTP id AA04597 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 1 Oct 1996 16:24:16 -0500 Received: from nickdo.mis.mei.com by atlas.mei.com (NTMail 3.01.01) id fa001955; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 16:25:22 -0500 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Nick Rushizky" Organization: Marquette Medical Systems To: Christian Carey Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 16:25:52 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: NT 4.0 on 760c w/24MB Reply-To: Nick@atlas.mis.mei.com Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-Id: 21252231801078@mei.com I'm giving serious thought to throwing in a new HD on my 760E, to get a clean install for when I try installing NT 4.0, but since I've only got 24 M RAM, I checked out the price for another 16 M SIMM - I think (do not quote me, I sell nothing..) that Unigen has 'em for $400 or so - price is going back up (was $270-ish a few months back.) It runs fast, real fast, with 24 M and 95, but I have NT 3.51 with 32 on my desktop, and that just sorta runs along, nothing to write home about. This leads me to agree.. NT is a big old pig when it comes to RAM, but it's also damn hard for the network / OS / me to make it fall over and get the blue screen of death. Pigs have their place in the world, it would seem.. > Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 16:20:43 -0400 (EDT) > From: Christian Carey > Subject: Re: NT 4.0 on 760c w/24MB > To: Michael Klenner > Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > On Tuesday, 1st October 1996, Michael Klenner wrote: > > > I can say from vast experience that NT really isn't worth running on > > anything with LESS than 32 Megs. > > No argument here! > > > I run NT 4.0 Workstation on a P-133 with 80 Megs of RAM and about 9 Gigs > > formatted NTFS. It's PLENTY fast. > > I haven't seen it run on a Pentium with that much RAM, so I'll bow to your > first-hand experience. > > > Bottom line: WinNT is a memory hog. > > Again, total concurrence. > > > When I decide to shoehorn a 32 Meg card into the 'Pad I'll think about > > putting NT on it, but not until then. > > And so, getting back to the original query - what is the RAM capacity of a > 760C? If the fellow wanted to have reasonably performing Windows NT, how > much would it cost him (approximately) to get the RAM to get the performance? > > Christian. > -- > Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 > > Nick Rushizky ---> nick@atlas.mis.mei.com Marquette Medical Systems PC Support Help Desk All opinions are my fault only. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 1 17:47:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA202436424; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:47:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16880; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:45:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:43:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16713; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:43:39 -0400 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16707; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:43:35 -0400 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA27336; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 14:43:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johnp (tesu-pc2.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA10560 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Tue, 1 Oct 1996 14:43:24 -0700 From: "John Pham" Message-Id: <961001145205.ZM14366@johnp> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 14:52:02 -0700 In-Reply-To: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) "PCMCIA modem under DOS on TP750Cs" (Oct 1, 3:36pm) References: <199610011936.PAA22180@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0.1 (4.0.1 Apr 9 1996) To: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Subject: Re: PCMCIA modem under DOS on TP750Cs Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dave, If you point your Web browser at the following site: http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tps/750w31.html I think they have what you're looking for. Good luck, John On Oct 1, 3:36pm, Dave Ahn wrote: > Subject: PCMCIA modem under DOS on TP750Cs > Hello, > > My recently acquired TP750Cs came with Win95 installed. However, I need > to access my PCMCIA modem (AT&T Keep In Touch 14.4) from DOS without > entering Win95. I have downloaded the latest PCMCIA Features disk, which > gives me the Card Services drivers. I can see the modem from EZPLAY, but > I cannot access it from a DOS comm program. The modem works fine > under Win95 and a DOS shell under Win95. > > I've read the FAQs and other files for the TP750 and have come to > the conclusion that I'm missing some drivers, including point enablers, > etc. And I recall reading that there are some PCMCIA drivers that > come with IBM PC-DOS, which I do not have. I am also missing the > driver disk (if any) for my modem. Are there any publicly available > drivers which will allow me to use the modem under DOS? Or some > kind of workaround? Or could someome make the IBM PC-DOS drivers > available (since they would have been in my PC-DOS disks anyway)? > > Thanks, > Dave. > -- > Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the > ^^ PLEASE NOTE CHANGE ^^ world rejoiced. Try to live your life > Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, > Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 >-- End of excerpt from Dave Ahn -- ------------------------------------------------------ | John Pham Phone: (800) 422-7044 | | Lantronix Systems Engr. (714) 453-7107 | | 15353 Barranca Parkway Fax: (714) 450-7226 | | Irvine, CA 92718 Email: johnp@lantronix.com | ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 1 21:25:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA226319533; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 21:25:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07901; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 21:24:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 1 Oct 1996 21:18:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07245; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 21:18:38 -0400 Received: from hoopla.cs.nyu.edu (HOOPLA.CS.NYU.EDU [128.122.129.127]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07235; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 21:18:32 -0400 Received: (from news@localhost) by hoopla.cs.nyu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) id UAA05139; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 20:51:48 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Path: news From: fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu (David Fox) Newsgroups: thinkpad Subject: 755CE Serial port under Linux Date: 01 Oct 1996 20:51:48 -0400 Organization: NYU Media Research Lab. Lines: 11 Sender: fox@hoopla.cs.nyu.edu Message-Id: Reply-To: fox@cs.nyu.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: hoopla.cs.nyu.edu X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.1 After ignoring it for a couple of years, I'm trying to plug a mouse into my 9 pin serial port, but XFree doesn't see it. The boot message says tty00 at 0x03f8 irq 4 is a 16550A, and set serial says the same about /dev/ttyS0, but there is no response from moving or clicking. Anyone know a trick to make this work? I remember having the same problem on someone's 760. Thanks in advance... -- David Fox http://found.cs.nyu.edu/fox xoF divaD NYU Media Research Lab fox@cs.nyu.edu baL hcraeseR aideM UYN From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 1 21:53:15 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA228821194; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 21:53:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10822; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 21:52:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 1 Oct 1996 21:50:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10705; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 21:50:50 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10687; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 21:50:46 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (ssh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA23757; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 19:53:40 -0600 Message-Id: <199610020153.TAA23757@aspen.wwsi.com> To: fox@cs.nyu.edu Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 755CE Serial port under Linux In-Reply-To: Your message of "01 Oct 1996 20:51:48 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 19:53:40 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist >>>>> "David" == David Fox writes: David> After ignoring it for a couple of years, I'm trying to plug a mouse David> into my 9 pin serial port, but XFree doesn't see it. The boot message David> says tty00 at 0x03f8 irq 4 is a 16550A, and set serial says the same David> about /dev/ttyS0, but there is no response from moving or clicking. David> Anyone know a trick to make this work? I remember having the same David> problem on someone's 760. Thanks in advance... You need to make sure that the serial port is on. I sent a message about how to do this with '95 a while ago, but I'm not sure how to do this with Linux. You might want to make sure that PS2 (which you can put on a bootable floppy) sees the serial port as active. ssh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 1 23:49:49 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA241868187; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:49:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20791; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:48:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:45:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20515; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:45:25 -0400 Received: from Fe3.rust.net (Fe3.rust.net [204.157.12.254]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20456; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:45:15 -0400 Received: from Rust.net (liv-44.rust.net [206.42.195.144]) by Fe3.rust.net (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id XAA10371; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:44:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961002034526.006f023c@rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 23:45:26 -0400 To: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Re: Using 701c as (not _with_!) an external modem At 09:36 AM 9/30/96 HST, you wrote: >Every so often it would be useful to use my 701c as an external modem - >by this I mean, I'd like to plug another computer into the 701c, connect >the 701c to a phone line, and then run a comms program on the other >computer. To do this I assume that I have to (1) disconnect the second >(non-modem) serial port from the mouse/trackpoint and infrared devices, >and (2) write a short program to pass characters back and forth between >com1 and com2. > >Presumably I can do (1) in the -1 menus. I'm a little worried >about (2), since the commercial communications programs seem to take >stronger control of the ports than just polling the interrupt levels. >This would imply that the tiny program I have in mind won't be reliable >at high speeds. Can anyone give me any advice here? Has anyone done >what I'm trying to do? Best yet, is there already software out there >(perhaps a DOS port-redirection command I don't know about) that will do this? > >Thanks in advance, >- David (ross@math.hawaii.edu) > Fore give me but what you ask is just down right silly. What you suggest is workable but why. You would be better off buying your other computer a cheap modem(like an old 14.4 from a garage sale) and with the time and money saved, take in a half dozen movies... B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 2 07:06:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA281034362; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 07:06:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27170; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 07:02:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 2 Oct 1996 06:56:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA26742; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 06:56:14 -0400 Received: from mailsrv1.pcy.mci.net (mailsrv1.pcy.mci.net [204.71.0.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA26725; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 06:55:58 -0400 Received: from tigger (usr1-dialup53.Atlanta.mci.net) by MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.0-7 #10044) id <01IA5PTFZI7K8X2Z9Y@MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 02 Oct 1996 06:57:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tigger (usr1-dialup53.Atlanta.mci.net) by MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.0-7 #10044) id <01IA5PSTGFYQ8X3B23@MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 02 Oct 1996 06:56:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 06:53:21 -0400 From: Joe Subject: 760LD Infrared Troubles To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: 109UGEIIDV87@mail-cluster.pcy.mci.net Message-Id: <325249A1.4479@internetmci.com> Organization: KPMG Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b7 (Win95; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello! I'm new to the list, so I thought I'd dive in with a question. I have a 760LD and I can't seem to get the IR port working. I've used the TP features app to turn it on, but Win95 can't seem to find it. Shouldn't there be an icon in the control panel that will let you control the device? I know that was true for a 755CD. Any help would be greatly appreciated... Thanks, Joe Burns From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 2 08:24:59 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA287379098; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:24:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02467; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:21:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:18:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01983; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:18:20 -0400 Received: from switzerland.it.earthlink.net (switzerland-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.45]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01968; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:18:16 -0400 Received: from Cust57.Max1.Dallas.TX.MS.UU.NET (Cust57.Max1.Dallas.TX.MS.UU.NET [153.35.176.57]) by switzerland.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA07284 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:17:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: switzerland.it.earthlink.net: Host Cust57.Max1.Dallas.TX.MS.UU.NET [153.35.176.57] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <3.0b28.32.19961002072320.006ee250@psa.pencom.com> X-Sender: rickt@psa.pencom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b28 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 07:23:35 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Rick Tait Subject: PCMCIA modem & "DOS" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Help! I run Win95 on my 760c and I need to be able to have my Megahertz PCMCIA modem "seen" under DOS (well, booting to DOS via F8). The reason being I want to run Duke Nukem with sound and use the PCMCIA modem to dialup a friend. I dont think I can get the Mwave to do both sound and modem, anyone thinks differently let meknow. Anywya, how the heck do I get the modem to be recognised? .rickt -- main(v,c)char**c;{for(v[c++]="Rick Tait \n)";(!!c)[*c] &&(v--||--c&& execlp(*c,*c,c[!!c]+!!c,!c));**c=!c)write(!!*c,*c,!!**c);} From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 2 09:21:54 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA292312513; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:21:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07490; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:19:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:16:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07225; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:16:11 -0400 Received: from graphics.cs.nyu.edu (GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU [128.122.129.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07216; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:16:05 -0400 Received: by graphics.cs.nyu.edu (SMI-8.6/1.20) id JAA14203; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:18:10 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:18:10 -0400 Message-Id: <199610021318.JAA14203@graphics.cs.nyu.edu> From: David Fox To: Don Russell Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 755CE Serial port under Linux In-Reply-To: <325262EA.2214506F@mr.picker.com> References: <325262EA.2214506F@mr.picker.com> Reply-To: fox@cs.nyu.edu Don Russell writes: > silly question, but did you change your /etc/XF86Config to tell it to > use the serial mouse, and specify the mouse type? I have been switching > between a serial mouse and the built-in ps/2 stick mouse on a 760C with > no trouble at all. Not silly, I should have said in my original message: I changed Device "/dev/mouse" Protocol "PS/2" to Device "/dev/ttyS0" Protocol "Microsoft" I'm sure that's the right protocol because I use it on all my desktop machines with the same model mouse. (Logitech First Mouse.) The server starts fine, no error messages appear in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-errors, but the mouse doesn't move and the buttons aren't noticed. Setserial says the device is a 16550A UART. I've heard from ssh@wwsi.com that my serial port may need to be turned on -- if anyone knows how to do this in Linux I'd love to hear. My kernel is built with APM (advanced power management) support, but that only seems to pertain to battery issues. Maybe APM *is* my problem, its so smart it turns off my serial port? I don't know... -- David Fox http://found.cs.nyu.edu/fox xoF divaD NYU Media Research Lab fox@cs.nyu.edu baL hcraeseR aideM UYN From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 2 12:49:30 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA028174963; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:49:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28841; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:44:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:31:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27780; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:31:05 -0400 Received: from netcom6.netcom.com (phr@netcom6.netcom.com [192.100.81.114]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27772; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:31:01 -0400 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom6.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id JAA07328; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:30:53 -0700 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:30:53 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199610021630.JAA07328@netcom6.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: re: 755ce serial port I'd say first make sure the serial port works, so you know if it's an X server problem. The obvious method is with a breakout box, or by plugging in another computer via null modem and running kermit under linux. There's also a serial port test in the bios that you can select at powerup time. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 2 12:55:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA028625309; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:55:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29527; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:52:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:51:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29392; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:51:21 -0400 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29383; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:51:16 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu (yu1.yu.edu [129.98.200.100]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA17558 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:51:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA36975; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:51:39 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:51:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinof To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Withdrawal info Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I guess this means we should see the new thinkpads before the end of the month. Hardware Withdrawal: Selected ThinkPad Systems -- Replacements Available Announced on October 1, 1996 WITHDRAWAL Announcement 996-252 Abstract Effective October 30, 1996, IBM will withdraw from marketing the products listed in the Product Withdrawals section. After October 30, 1996, you can no longer obtain these products directly from IBM. You can obtain these products on an as-available basis through IBM authorized remarketers with an approved value add or IBM Authorized Personal Computer Dealers. Affected Product Information The following machine types are affected by this announcement: 2524, 2605, 2618, 2625, 2630, 9545, 9546, and 9547 Refer to the Product Withdrawals section for applicable models. 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From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 2 13:05:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA030175932; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:05:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00749; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:04:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:02:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00527; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:02:04 -0400 Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00513; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:02:01 -0400 Received: (from whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA19537; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:00:58 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:00:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Schumann To: Rick Tait Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: MegaHertz Modem in DOS Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Rick, MegaHertz ships point enablers with their PC card modems. It's a very small TSR that hardwires your card to a COM port. You lose plug n play, and you should not take it out with the machine on, but it is a very small TSR. Alternatively, you can use the PC card drivers (all four) that come with IBM DOS. This will likely work with any PC card modem, but they will take more memory, and allow hot swapping. Chris From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 2 21:21:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA114835681; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:21:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20756; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:20:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:18:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20594; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:18:36 -0400 Received: from nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20509; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:18:23 -0400 Received: from rheo-port.pse.umass.edu by nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with SMTP (PP); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 03:17:54 +0200 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961003011751.0069b970@129.13.95.1> X-Sender: ui2k@129.13.95.1 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 21:17:51 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Axel Hartmann Subject: RE: PCMCIA modem & "DOS": Gamers? Hi Scott, i think you missed a ;) there... i'd play more if i could replace my 340MB... still waiting for the ultimate w95 network-game for the play^h^h^h^hworkgroup here... back to pinball, axel At 09:58 03.10.96 +0900, you wrote: >Randy, > >Time to get off "the high horse" and cut Rick a little slack. Takes all >kinds of questions on this listserv to make it good. I'm certain others >out there are interested in this as well.... > >Scott > >>---------- >>From: Randy Whittle[SMTP:whittle@usc.edu] >>Sent: Thursday, October 03, 1996 9:36AM >>To: tp750@cs.utk.edu >>Subject: Re: PCMCIA modem & "DOS" >> >>At 07:23 AM 10/2/96 -0500, Rick Tait wrote: >> >>>I run Win95 on my 760c and I need to be able to have my Megahertz PCMCIA >>>modem "seen" under DOS (well, booting to DOS via F8). The reason being >>>I want to run Duke Nukem with sound and use the PCMCIA modem to dialup >>>a friend. I dont think I can get the Mwave to do both sound and modem, >>>anyone thinks differently let meknow. >> >> It never ceases to amaze me how so often the difficult times >>that >>people have with making their machines work, the reason is because >>they're >>trying to play some silly game! >> >> Some of us ancient people on the list remember fiddling with >>drivers >>on our 750's--all because we wanted to make "Doom" sound work... >> >> Are we all just playing games with these expensive toys?! >> >>------- >>Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net >>USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle >> "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who >>is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet >> >> > > ....................................................................... . Axel Hartmann . . Paper : 619 South East Street; Amherst, MA 01002; USA . . Voice : [USA] (413) 253-1404 . . E-Mail : mailto:Axel.Hartmann@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de . . Homepage : http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Axel.Hartmann . . Mail-Drop : 42.4deg N, 72.5deg W . ....................................................................... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 2 21:53:36 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA119367615; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:53:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23502; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:52:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:50:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23234; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:50:06 -0400 Received: from cosmos.psc.sc.edu (cosmos.psc.sc.edu [129.252.32.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23206; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:49:58 -0400 Received: from spin.cosm.sc.edu (spin.cosm.sc.edu [129.252.40.19]) by cosmos.psc.sc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA01861 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 01:49:50 GMT Received: from spin by spin.cosm.sc.edu (8.6.12) id BAA01468; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 01:49:49 GMT Sender: puszkarz@cosm.sc.edu Message-Id: <32531BBC.41C6@cosm.sc.edu> Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 21:49:48 -0400 From: Waldemar Puszkarz Organization: College of Science, University of South Carolina X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b6Gold (X11; I; IRIX 5.3 IP22) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad Subject: External floppy for 365ed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- Does anyone know how much it may cost and where to get it real cheap. TIA. Waldemar From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 2 21:54:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA119527678; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:54:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17278; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:43:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:36:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16490; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:36:26 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16484; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:36:23 -0400 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-d-27.usc.edu [128.125.222.99]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id RAA22419 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961003003658.00749274@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 17:36:58 -0700 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: PCMCIA modem & "DOS" At 07:23 AM 10/2/96 -0500, Rick Tait wrote: >I run Win95 on my 760c and I need to be able to have my Megahertz PCMCIA >modem "seen" under DOS (well, booting to DOS via F8). The reason being >I want to run Duke Nukem with sound and use the PCMCIA modem to dialup >a friend. I dont think I can get the Mwave to do both sound and modem, >anyone thinks differently let meknow. It never ceases to amaze me how so often the difficult times that people have with making their machines work, the reason is because they're trying to play some silly game! Some of us ancient people on the list remember fiddling with drivers on our 750's--all because we wanted to make "Doom" sound work... Are we all just playing games with these expensive toys?! ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 2 22:01:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA120588080; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:01:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19042; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:02:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:59:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18664; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:59:48 -0400 Received: from Seoul-PSD.korea.army.mil ([144.59.100.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18657; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:59:36 -0400 Received: by Seoul-PSD.korea.army.mil with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.0.838.14) id <01BBB111.7B7FE400@Seoul-PSD.korea.army.mil>; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:58:52 +0900 Message-Id: From: "Bronson, Scott E. CPT" To: "'Randy Whittle'" Cc: "'tp750@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: PCMCIA modem & "DOS" Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:58:50 +0900 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Encoding: 41 TEXT Randy, Time to get off "the high horse" and cut Rick a little slack. Takes all kinds of questions on this listserv to make it good. I'm certain others out there are interested in this as well.... Scott >---------- >From: Randy Whittle[SMTP:whittle@usc.edu] >Sent: Thursday, October 03, 1996 9:36AM >To: tp750@cs.utk.edu >Subject: Re: PCMCIA modem & "DOS" > >At 07:23 AM 10/2/96 -0500, Rick Tait wrote: > >>I run Win95 on my 760c and I need to be able to have my Megahertz PCMCIA >>modem "seen" under DOS (well, booting to DOS via F8). The reason being >>I want to run Duke Nukem with sound and use the PCMCIA modem to dialup >>a friend. I dont think I can get the Mwave to do both sound and modem, >>anyone thinks differently let meknow. > > It never ceases to amaze me how so often the difficult times >that >people have with making their machines work, the reason is because >they're >trying to play some silly game! > > Some of us ancient people on the list remember fiddling with >drivers >on our 750's--all because we wanted to make "Doom" sound work... > > Are we all just playing games with these expensive toys?! > >------- >Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net >USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle > "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who >is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 2 22:24:47 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA124569486; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:24:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26482; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:23:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:22:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26230; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:22:02 -0400 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au (anugpo.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26221; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:21:56 -0400 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.7.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA18308; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:21:50 +1000 (EST) From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.7.6/8.6.12) id MAA21559; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:21:48 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:21:43 +1000 (EST) To: Joshua Hosseinof Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Withdrawal info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Joshua Hosseinof wrote: > I guess this means we should see the new thinkpads before the end of the > month. > > > Hardware Withdrawal: Selected ThinkPad Systems -- Replacements Available > > Announced on October 1, 1996 > WITHDRAWAL Announcement 996-252 > problem is - if ibm sticks to past practises - they will announce a couple of new machines at the end of october or early november, and these will offer a few improvements, but the really appealing versions of these machines will not be announced until february or march. or, they will announce up-grades to be available soon. [are those up-grades to the 750 available yet? : - )] what happened to the toshiba comparisions discussions? i found those very worthwhile. i think most (sensible) people these days do not stick with one brand as if it was a religion, and are open to considering alternatives. as some subscribers to this list often have a much greater range of experience with high performance notebooks, the comparision disucssions were most useful to me. aside from a few comaptability problems with my 755CE it has been a good machine, and the few problems i have had with it have left me satisfied with ibm service. i also liked the year's insurance that came with it - the first year is the killer on insurance ... after that you can probably chop the value in half and it will be adequately insured. i need a new machine, but i am not so sure what they announce in oct/nov is going to convince me to stick with ibm. we'll see .... regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 2 22:43:59 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA128460638; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:43:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28024; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:42:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:41:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27889; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:41:00 -0400 Received: from enteract.com (root@enteract.com [206.54.252.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27855; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:40:51 -0400 Received: from isaiah-8.d.enteract.com (isaiah-8.d.enteract.com [206.54.253.87]) by enteract.com (8.8.Beta.6/8.7.6) with SMTP id VAA02019 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:40:36 -0500 (CDT) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Withdrawal info Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 02:40:45 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <3253250b.6556405@smtp.enteract.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 What's really to discuss anymore? Toshiba's are better than IBM going across the entire line, going by benchmarks and I think user opinion for folks who've used both. They're rugged and equally reliable. IBM doesn't get competitive with them until you get to the high-end machines. But I've felt IBM's support is better, especially since they do it themselves, and Toshiba's are just too darn heavy when you get away from the Portege. Heck, I like the company and all, I'm on my 3rd Stinkpad, I just wish they'd show a little more concern for the entry level systems instead of the corporate/high-end boxes. Oh, and I think a Thinkpad will run just about any OS (especially when you get away from MWave) almost right out of the box, while Toshiba's and others seem to need special drivers and such. Just an impression, since my only personal experience is running Windows on either. On Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:21:43 +1000 (EST), you wrote: "what happened to the toshiba comparisions discussions? i found those very "worthwhile. i think most (sensible) people these days do not stick with one "brand as if it was a religion, and are open to considering alternatives. as "some subscribers to this list often have a much greater range of experience "with high performance notebooks, the comparision disucssions were most useful "to me. " "aside from a few comaptability problems with my 755CE it has been a good "machine, and the few problems i have had with it have left me satisfied with "ibm service. i also liked the year's insurance that came with it - the "first year is the killer on insurance ... after that you can probably chop "the value in half and it will be adequately insured. i need a new machine, "but i am not so sure what they announce in oct/nov is going to convince me to "stick with ibm. we'll see .... " "regards, al " " Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 " Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 " epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 2 22:56:41 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA132331400; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:56:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29195; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:55:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:52:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28826; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:52:36 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28795; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:52:31 -0400 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-j-68.usc.edu [128.125.224.212]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id TAA22499; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961003025139.010a775c@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 19:51:39 -0700 To: "Bronson, Scott E. CPT" From: Randy Whittle Subject: RE: PCMCIA modem & "DOS" Cc: "'tp750@cs.utk.edu'" At 09:58 AM 10/3/96 +0900, Bronson, Scott E. CPT wrote: >Randy, > >Time to get off "the high horse" and cut Rick a little slack. Takes all >kinds of questions on this listserv to make it good. I'm certain others >out there are interested in this as well.... Please, please--you misunderstand me! Note I said "We" and gave an example of how many of us were trying to do similar things with our 750's years ago! I just think its genuinely funny that some of the biggest problems many of us have with our ThinkPads are solely in the pursuit of fun and games! >> Some of us ancient people on the list remember fiddling with >>drivers >>on our 750's--all because we wanted to make "Doom" sound work... >> >> Are we all just playing games with these expensive toys?! ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 2 23:08:31 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA140852110; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 23:08:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00477; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 23:07:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 2 Oct 1996 23:06:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00337; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 23:06:13 -0400 Received: from moistmaster (bobz@dial001.skypoint.net [199.86.33.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00329; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 23:06:09 -0400 Received: (from bobz@localhost) by moistmaster (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA04818 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:02:54 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:02:54 -0500 From: Bob Message-Id: <199610030302.WAA04818@moistmaster> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Can somebody verify for me that microsoft's vidcap.exe (included with ms Video for Windows) will work with the 755CD's video capture card? I've wrestled with this for days, and I'm making no headway. If you're vidcapturing under win95, I'd love to hear from you. Here's where I'm at: -Installed vetpe120.exe, the enhanced video features disk -I can see my 7320 video capture driver in control panel/multimedia/advanced -I can NOT see a video capture device anywhere in the Device Manager, but there is an Unknown Device whose irq and address range corresponds to my 7320 settings -when I start vidcap.exe, I am warned that the program could not detect my video capture device, and all the good features get disabled. Clues? -- Bob Zimbinski bobz@skypoint.com robert.zimbinski@cdc.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 02:16:41 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA182733401; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:16:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13303; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:14:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:12:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12970; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:12:23 -0400 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA12951; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:12:17 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu (yu1.yu.edu [129.98.200.100]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA19988; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:12:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA37781; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:12:42 -0400 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:12:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinof To: Bob Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199610030302.WAA04818@moistmaster> Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I went through the exact same thing on my 755cd, the solution was to remove the device=ibmtpura.vxd from system.ini. I still haven't figured out what it is for other than the description in the vxd file saying Miscellaneous thinkpad vxd driver. I haven't seen anything not working because of removing it. On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Bob wrote: > Can somebody verify for me that microsoft's vidcap.exe (included with ms > Video for Windows) will work with the 755CD's video capture card? I've > wrestled with this for days, and I'm making no headway. If you're > vidcapturing under win95, I'd love to hear from you. > > Here's where I'm at: > -Installed vetpe120.exe, the enhanced video features disk > > -I can see my 7320 video capture driver in control panel/multimedia/advanced > > -I can NOT see a video capture device anywhere in the Device Manager, but > there is an Unknown Device whose irq and address range corresponds to my > 7320 settings > > -when I start vidcap.exe, I am warned that the program could not detect my > video capture device, and all the good features get disabled. > > Clues? > > -- > Bob Zimbinski > bobz@skypoint.com > robert.zimbinski@cdc.com > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 04:39:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA193651985; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 04:39:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA26024; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 04:38:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 04:36:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA25861; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 04:36:08 -0400 Received: from virginia.edu (mars.itc.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA25855; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 04:36:06 -0400 Received: from csis2.ee.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa08916; 3 Oct 96 4:35 EDT Received: (from cyj9h@localhost) by csis2.ee.Virginia.EDU (8.7.1/8.6.6) id EAA20574 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 04:35:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Charles Y. Choi" Message-Id: <199610030835.EAA20574@csis2.ee.Virginia.EDU> Subject: win95 on 701cs observations ... To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 04:35:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some musings.... Two months ago I bit the bullet and installed win95 over the OS/2 pre-install on my 701cs. It has been a mixed-blessing. I've found that battery life is shorter where on a NiMH I'd get 3:23 on OS/2 versus 2:40 on Win95. Also suspend doesn't work with Win95 as well as with OS/2. It still seems to drain the battery in Win95 when I go into suspend mode. I think I read somewhere that this is related to PCMCIA power not being cut off by Win95 - can anybody here comment and is there a fix? -charles -- "Got to Revolution! Got to Revolution!" - Kyle Baker From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 05:08:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA196233723; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:08:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA28417; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:08:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:07:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA28314; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:07:00 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA28307; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:06:51 -0400 Received: from cartan.hawaii.edu (cartan.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA21852; Wed, 2 Oct 96 23:06:49 HST Received: by cartan.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA00854; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 23:07:22 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199610030907.XAA00854@cartan.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Using 701c as (not _with_!) an external modem To: billb@rust.net (Bill Bryan) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 96 23:07:21 HST Cc: ross@math.hawaii.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961002034526.006f023c@rust.net>; from "Bill Bryan" at Oct 1, 96 11:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] I wrote: > >Every so often it would be useful to use my 701c as an external modem - Bill Bryan replied: > Fore give me but what you ask is just down right silly. What you > suggest is workable but why. You would be better off buying your other > computer a cheap modem(like an old 14.4 from a garage sale) and with the > time and money saved, take in a half dozen movies... Not forgiven; if you don't know 'why' then you shouldn't call me "silly". Among other things, I want to be able to intercept packets, which I can't do with a regular modem. Out of curiosity, how would buying another modem save me money (over the TP, which I already have)? - David (ross@math.hawaii.edu) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 05:36:32 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA197935391; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:36:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA06233; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:35:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:33:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA05509; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:33:29 -0400 Received: from noknic.nokia.com (noknic.nokia.com [131.228.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA05462; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:33:23 -0400 From: Received: from ncepfi01.nce.nokia.com (ncepfi01.nce.nokia.com [131.228.95.103]) by noknic.nokia.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA15830 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:32:37 +0200 Received: (root@localhost) by ncepfi01.nce.nokia.com (8.6.8.1/SCA-6.6) id KAA19619 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:34:31 GMT X400-Received: by mta FIKE in /PRMD=NOKIA/ADMD=ELISA/C=FI ; Relayed ; 03 Oct 96 12:32:23 +0000 X400-Received: by mta NCEPFI01TU in /PRMD=NOKIA/ADMD=ELISA/C=FI ; Relayed ; 03 Oct 96 12:34:17 +0000 X400-Received: by /PRMD=NOKIA/ADMD=ELISA/C=FI ; Relayed ; 03 Oct 96 12:32:00 +0000 Date: 03 Oct 96 12:34:31 +0200 Delivery-Date: 03 Oct 96 12:34:31 +0200 Message-Type: Multiple Part X400-Originator: Arto.Kiiskinen@fike.nce.nokia.com X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=NOKIA/ADMD=ELISA/C=FI;G30021E274130000010401B06370042E] X400-Recipients: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Message-Id: Importance: normal Subject: Smart Battery is a flop Autoforwarded: FALSE To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Receipt Notification Requested) Reply-To: Arto.Kiiskinen@fike.nce.nokia.com Priority: normal Conversion: Allowed Conversion-With-Loss: Allowed Hello!! What do you think about the new smart battery technology proposed by Intel and Duracell? Will the technology come to the majority of the notebooks? Intel seems to believe so, and it would offer some improvement over present technology, but are you aware of any notebook manufacturer introducing a notebook based on smart battery in the near future?? The problem with smart battery is, that the end customer, who wants to use the computer, doesn't want to *think* about the battery, he/she just wants to be able to run the system as long as possible. I'm not sure if the end-user is interested in the 95% accurate battery fuel-gauge, because the main problem is, the battery just isn't giving him enough power anyway. The end user would not want to know that my battery has 45,3 minutes time left. Rather, the user would like the money spent in the intelligent charger and battery to be used to make the battery larger, that is capacity-wise. Extra hour of use is more important than knowing exactly the time left. Especially as it seems likely that Li-Ion battery chemistry is going to improve greatly in the next few years. But am I wrong?? Comments, please! Thanks!! Arto Kiiskinen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 10:37:54 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA229663472; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:37:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29392; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:36:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:30:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28645; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:30:32 -0400 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28632; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:30:27 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id HAA27866; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:30:14 -0700 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma844353007.027837; Thu Oct 3 07:30:07 1996 Received: from .cadence.com (annex-sj4-09.cadence.com [158.140.31.19]) by cds9258.Cadence.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA18670; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610031430.HAA18670@cds9258.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: perley@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Arto.Kiiskinen@fike.nce.nokia.com From: Don Perley Subject: Re: Smart Battery is a flop Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (Receipt Notification Requested) At 12:34 PM 10/3/96 +0200, Arto.Kiiskinen@fike.nce.nokia.com wrote: >What do you think about the new smart battery technology proposed by Intel and >Duracell? > I've seen various items about battery management chips over the years... I probably missed that particular article you saw. > The end user would not want to know that my battery has >45,3 minutes time left. Rather, the user would like the money spent in the >intelligent charger and battery to be used to make the battery larger, >that is capacity-wise. You might not be interested in whether you have 45.3 vs 45.5 minutes, but it would sure be handy to know 2 minutes vs 2 seconds. Would you be more interested in having the chip if it meant you could go through more charge cycles before replacement? >Especially as it seems likely that Li-Ion battery chemistry is going to improve >greatly in the next few years. But am I wrong?? If charge management is done with an on-battery chip, then it is more likely that you can use new types of batteries that didn't exist when your computer was made. -Don Perley perley@cadence.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 11:34:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA238926861; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:34:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06450; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:30:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:28:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06097; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:28:16 -0400 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06050; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:28:02 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id IAA04325; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:27:47 -0700 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma844356463.004311; Thu Oct 3 08:27:43 1996 Received: from jetsons.cadence.com ([158.140.14.154]) by cds9258.Cadence.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA24189; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610031527.IAA24189@cds9258.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: perley@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Randy Whittle From: Don Perley Subject: Re: PCMCIA modem & "DOS" Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu At 05:36 PM 10/2/96 -0700, Randy Whittle wrote: >At 07:23 AM 10/2/96 -0500, Rick Tait wrote: > >>I run Win95 on my 760c and I need to be able to have my Megahertz PCMCIA >>modem "seen" under DOS (well, booting to DOS via F8). The reason being >>I want to run Duke Nukem with sound and use the PCMCIA modem to dialup >>a friend. I dont think I can get the Mwave to do both sound and modem, >>anyone thinks differently let meknow. Speaking of which, the MWAVE on my Aptiva seems a lot better at doing sound while the modem is busy, despite a warning in the manual that it might not work. Is it a different chip as the 755's, or maybe a newer program? > It never ceases to amaze me how so often the difficult times that >people have with making their machines work, the reason is because they're >trying to play some silly game! Me? I just want it to say "You have new mail" like it does when I use an ethernet connection. -Don Perley perley@cadence.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 11:35:55 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA239096954; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:35:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06792; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:34:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:30:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06334; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:30:23 -0400 Received: from apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu (apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu [155.246.18.128]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06322; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:30:20 -0400 Received: from war.dmi.stevens-tech.edu by apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Dec94-0213PM) id AA13943; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:30:16 -0400 From: "M. Arifi Koseoglu" Received: by war.dmi.stevens-tech.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/08Jul96-1245PM) id AA31918; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:32:33 -0400 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:32:33 -0400 Message-Id: <9610031532.AA31918@war.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 701CS + Win311 + 32 Bit disk access Reply-To: arifi@dmi.stevens-tech.edu Hello, I have upgraded the factory-installed Windows 3.1 on my THinkpad 701CS to WFWG 3.11 and now want to use 32 bit DISK access (I am already using 32 bit FILE access). Has anyone here encountered problems with that ? For example what happens when the BIOS spins the disk down to save energy etc ? Any conflicts - things to watch out for - any horror stories ? Thanks in advance, Arifi -- Arifi Koseoglu arifi@dmi.stevens-tech.edu PS. This is my second post of this message. The first one did not make it to the list for some reason, or this is how it seems. I do apologize if you are receiving the same message for the second time. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 12:10:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA243449000; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:10:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10941; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:06:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:03:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10483; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:03:10 -0400 Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu (uconnvm.uconn.edu [137.99.26.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10453; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:03:00 -0400 Received: from oasis.vpia.uconn.edu by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 03 Oct 96 12:01:37 EDT Received: from OASIS/MERCURYQ by oasis.vpia.uconn.edu (Mercury 1.21); 3 Oct 96 12:05:33 EST Received: from MERCURYQ by OASIS (Mercury 1.21); 3 Oct 96 12:05:22 EST From: "Guy W. Farrell" Organization: The UConn Foundation, Inc. To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:05:18 EST Subject: Re: Withdrawal info Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-Id: <8795843F1B@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu> > What's really to discuss anymore? Toshiba's are better than IBM going > across the entire line, going by benchmarks and I think user opinion for folks > who've used both. They're rugged and equally reliable. IBM doesn't get > competitive with them until you get to the high-end machines. > > " Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 > " Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 > > epbrown@enteract.com > Laptop Central > http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown My office is rather unanimous in preference of the TP701 and TP560 for light travel. Those are low end aren't they? With the education discount, the service from our university CoOp, and the fact that most of the office aren't power users, the portability and neat features are really what count. From my perspective, the IBM tech support is about the best (comparatively speaking). Even the 755s and 365s in use have fared well in my offices. Just a note of comparison, we do have a few Zeniths, Toshibas, Dells and Macs as well. Guy W. Farrell Network Coordinator (860)486-5000 The UConn Foundation, Inc. (800)269-9965 U-Box 206 Storrs, CT 06269-4190 E-mail: gfarrell@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu Computer Support for Institutional Advancement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 12:11:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA244249101; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:11:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11407; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:09:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:08:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11127; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:08:29 -0400 Received: from megspo.MEGSINET.NET (megspo.megsinet.net [206.222.62.232]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11079; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:08:23 -0400 Received: from dial78.megsinet.net ([206.222.63.110]) by megspo.MEGSINET.NET (post.office MTA v1.9.1 ID# 0-11704) with SMTP id AAA177 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:03:19 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19961003110522.092f0c70@megspo.megsinet.net> X-Sender: chessie@megspo.megsinet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: chessie@megsinet.net (Dennis Pantazis) Subject: List Admin Stuff Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:03:19 -0500 I would like to propose to the list and its administrator the addition of a couple of things to the header and signature file which will be added to all messages that are sent to the list: 1. the subject line should get a "thinkpad:" to distinguish its source, making the sorting of mail easier, and knowing its origin by a simple glance. 2. "(c) Sender's name -- thinkpad@cs.utk.edu For help send a message to THINKPAD-REQUEST@CS.UTK.EDU with help in the subject line" or reference to a simple web page that would contain the subsciption info and archive info (ie: For help see http://www.cs.utk.edu/foo/bar) the (c) thing is for copywrite, todays lawyers are getting to be such pains in the ass, we sould cover our buts. It seems to me that people 'forget' where thay put their subscription request and bother the list with 'unsub me posts.' This seems to happen in spurts and this is has been one of those periods. Sincerely, Dennis -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- chessie@megsinet.net pantazis@uiuc.edu You can still see us at http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis !!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 12:28:09 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA247720083; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:28:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13428; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:25:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:23:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13169; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:23:46 -0400 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13139; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:23:34 -0400 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id MAA03631; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:24:34 -0400 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:24:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: "Charles Y. Choi" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: win95 on 701cs observations ... In-Reply-To: <199610030835.EAA20574@csis2.ee.Virginia.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Charles Y. Choi wrote: > Two months ago I bit the bullet > and installed win95 over the OS/2 pre-install > on my 701cs. It has been a mixed-blessing. > > I've found that battery life is shorter where > on a NiMH I'd get 3:23 on OS/2 versus 2:40 on Win95. My hunch is that OS/2 (and Linux) use the halt instruction to slow processor to 0 MHz, whereas Win95 doesn't. If you use the 701 on your lap. you can feel that it runs cool with Linux, but runs hot with Win95. It'll run hot with Linux if you keep a CPU-intensive background task running. I've long since stopped expecting Microsoft to actually use all the performance-enhancing hardware features widely available on today's computers. These are the same people who refused to make a PS/2 mouse, saying laptop users could get along with a serial mouse and an RS232-PS/2 adapter. -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 12:31:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA248470279; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:31:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13933; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:29:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:28:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13800; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:28:55 -0400 Received: from ucs.orst.edu (UCS.ORST.EDU [128.193.4.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13793; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:28:51 -0400 Received: by ucs.orst.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/13Sep96-1023AM) id AA07374; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:28:26 -0700 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:28:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Mosley To: David Ross Cc: Bill Bryan , ross@math.hawaii.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Using 701c as (not _with_!) an external modem In-Reply-To: <199610030907.XAA00854@cartan.hawaii.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > I wrote: > > >Every so often it would be useful to use my 701c as an external modem - > > Bill Bryan replied: > > Fore give me but what you ask is just down right silly. What you > > Not forgiven; if you don't know 'why' then you shouldn't call me "silly". Perhaps when he typed "silly" he misspelled "beyond my limited scope of experience, and therefore not relevant to me, but sufficiently intersting to motivate me to give what _I_ would consider a correct answer. YMMV." It's an easy mistake. [hee hee hee] Now on to MY question, I query whether there is a software package that can do what you want AND intercept packets. I ask this not because I have seen such a thing, but because I would like to do the same on my TP. [running Linux 2.0.0]. Mabey there is a 'supervisor' mode in Linux or somthing? Anybody know? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 14:02:18 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA266575733; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:02:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21536; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:55:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:46:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20753; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:46:47 -0400 Received: from sabine.acs.psu.edu (sabine.acs.psu.edu [146.186.165.68]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20746; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:46:42 -0400 Message-Id: <199610031746.NAA20746@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by sabine.acs.psu.edu (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA07872; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:39:42 -0400 From: Brian Katz Subject: Re: List Admin Stuff To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu (thinkpad) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:39:42 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19961003110522.092f0c70@megspo.megsinet.net> from "Dennis Pantazis" at Oct 3, 96 11:03:19 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am in total agreement with this. All the other mailing lists I am on have something like this and I think it really helps sort things. I haven't thought too much about it on this list as the majority of subjects are pretty obvious, but I still think it is a good idea. Something short, like 'TP:' would even work, as some terminal progams don't leave a lot of space. : : 1. the subject line should get a "thinkpad:" to distinguish its source, : making the sorting of mail easier, and knowing its origin by a simple glance. : -- Acoustics Department ................................. katz@sabine.acs.psu.edu Penn State University ..................... http://www.acs.psu.edu/users/katz/ State College, PA 16802 ................................. (814)863-9832 Office USA ..................................................... (814)865-3119 Fax From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 14:13:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA269046382; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:13:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22625; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:07:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:05:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22444; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:05:50 -0400 Received: from zima.bbn.com (ZIMA.BBN.COM [128.89.8.110]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22419; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:05:43 -0400 Received: from doppleboch.bbn.com (doppleboch.bbn.com [128.89.6.100]) by zima.bbn.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA23414 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:05:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from cerys@localhost) by doppleboch.bbn.com (8.7.3/8.7.3/sl1.1) id OAA21243; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:05:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:05:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199610031805.OAA21243@doppleboch.bbn.com> From: Daniel Cerys To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: External keyboards for Thinkpad Docks Comments: Hyperbole mail buttons accepted, v3.18.6. I need to purchase a keyboard for my Dock II, so by default, I'm considering the IBM options. There are two keyboards that IBM sells: 1) the Standard keyboard, with rubber-dome technology 2) the Enhanced keyboard, with buckling-spring technology I've typed on the Standard keyboard at the local computer store and it seemed OK: solid, responsive, and quiet. Does anyone have any comparative familiarity with the Enhanced keyboard? Which do you like better, and why? Thanks, Dan ----------------------------------------------- Daniel Cerys Email: cerys@bbn.com BBN Work Phone: +1(617)873-4534 10 Moulton St. FAX: +1(617)873-2794 Mail Stop 6/4A Cambridge MA 02138 USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 15:01:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA279559274; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:01:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26629; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:58:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:55:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26342; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:55:15 -0400 Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26329; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:55:11 -0400 Received: (from whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA16892; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:54:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:54:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: ThinkPads and games Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Truth be known, games use the most advanced technology available much of the time. So, if you can get Doom to run with sound, or if you can get Duke Nuk'em to run over your modem on your 'Pad, chances are you can get just about anything running on it. Just this guy's opinion. Chris From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 15:47:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA290562061; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:47:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02114; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:45:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:42:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01636; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:42:35 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01627; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:42:15 -0400 Received: from bad_frog.cae.wisc.edu (d012013.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.12.13]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id OAA11805 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:41:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610031941.OAA11805@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 14:42:06 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: Installation story At 12:28 AM 9/25/96 -0500, Chris Schumann wrote: >It's now 12:13 on Wednesday morning. > >Today at work, I got a Toshiba 810MB hard disk and Windows 95, so I was >very eager to get them running. I got home, backed up all the important >data on my lowly 170MB disk (onto floppies - ugh). > Toshiba has a 2.0G drive that appears to sell for less than $600, the MK2101MAN. Has anyone tried installing this in a TP 755? I have a 755CD. Does anyone know of a reason that the latest 755 BIOS update should not be able to recognize this 2G drive? Thanks Mike Redmond CAE, UW-Madison From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 16:04:58 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA294403091; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:04:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03803; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:57:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:55:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03437; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:55:11 -0400 Received: from baker.cnw.com (baker.cnw.com [206.40.133.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03421; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:55:07 -0400 Received: from cnw.com (skag1-26.cnw.com [206.40.133.66]) by baker.cnw.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA12331 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610031954.MAA12331@baker.cnw.com> From: Vicky Stables Date: Thu, 03 Oct 96 12:53:38 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: List Admin Stuff In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19961003110522.092f0c70@megspo.megsinet.net> X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.14 On 10/03/96 at 11:03 AM, chessie@megsinet.net (Dennis Pantazis) said: >I would like to propose to the list and its administrator the addition of >a couple of things to the header and signature file which will be added >to all messages that are sent to the list: >1. the subject line should get a "thinkpad:" to distinguish its source, >making the sorting of mail easier, and knowing its origin by a simple >glance. While I think most decent [IMO, no flames please] mail progs let you filter based on source, I can see that this would help some folk. Perhaps it could be shortened to TP: so we can still see the subject in the index. >2. "(c) Sender's name -- thinkpad@cs.utk.edu For help >send a message to THINKPAD-REQUEST@CS.UTK.EDU with help in the subject >line" Or at least a weekly message containing the sub/unsub info. >or reference to a simple web page that would contain the subsciption info >and archive info (ie: For help see http://www.cs.utk.edu/foo/bar) >the (c) thing is for copywrite, todays lawyers are getting to be such >pains in the ass, we sould cover our buts. Personally, I hope not. You are free to include a copyright notice in your sig if you like. I don't want the list copyrighting things for me. >It seems to me that people 'forget' where thay put their subscription >request and bother the list with 'unsub me posts.' This seems to happen >in spurts and this is has been one of those periods. Again, I think a weekly message with this info would be sufficient. I don't like cluttered lists with unsub messages appended to every post. It's especially annoying for those who get the digest version. Clearly, the information is needed regularly, but a standard message with descriptive header posted weekly would be much less objectionable to me. Just my $.02 Vicky -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Vicky Stables, CPA stables@cnw.com ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 16:07:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA297933263; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:07:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04653; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:03:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:02:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04422; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:02:01 -0400 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04407; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:01:54 -0400 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-3 #9830) id <01IA7GAYZGU89X41XD@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:01:28 MST Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 12:50:36 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Micro-Solutions CD-ROM Drive Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IA7GUNWW4C9X41XD@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Well, after asking here first I've now had one of these drives for a few days and I must say everything everyone said is quite true. It's a bit large sized compared to some others but it's pretty solid mechanically and above all it works fine too. I wound up getting the 6x speed model as everyone I called was already out of the 4x, now there's an 8x model so I'd bet the 6x's days are numbered too. Each costs a bit more than the last.. Thanks, Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 16:46:59 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA012765613; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:46:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08750; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:41:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:38:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08267; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:38:42 -0400 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08242; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:38:13 -0400 Received: from pm30-08.execpc.com (pm30-08.execpc.com [169.207.12.48]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.7.6/8.7.5) with SMTP id PAA03854 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:38:14 -0500 From: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad 760ED freezing problems Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 20:40:07 GMT Organization: Emjay Corporation Message-Id: <325421b0.1687625@mailgate.execpc.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/16.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am putting out a general call to see if anyone else is having a problem of the following nature: After being on and actively used (no hibernation) for 3-6 hours, our Thinkpad 760ED freezes up. No error message, no GPF, nothing. It is just simply frozen. The only option is to turn the machine off and on. Doing a BIOS test shows all components as being OK. This still occurs even after upgrading to the latest BIOS (v1.02). I have Dr. Watson running and so sometimes, he pops up when we are actively using a specific application, but his message justs says "Application X had a "Unknown" fault at...". While I have not seen this problem reported here, someone the other day in the comp.sys.laptops Usenet group reported that they returned twenty-three 760ELD machines to IBM because of a similar problem that occurred in DOS, Unix, Windows 3.1, Windows 95, etc. and was unresolvable. This story was in response to another user who reported, among other things, at having the freeze problem. A technician for our vendor, who has a *lot* of experience with these Thinkpads, is checking into the problem, though he hasn't had problems like this himself with Windows 3.1 or Windows 95. If anyone has had this problem and resolved it, could you please let me know? I have never heard of problems like this with the 760C series and can only guess it exists with some of the 760E models. Either that, or a number of us are shooting ourselves in the foot unknowingly. Any help would be appreciated. Tom Kustner -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation =20 System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay's. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 17:18:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA023407496; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:18:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12503; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:15:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:11:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12002; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:11:01 -0400 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11977; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:10:50 -0400 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id RAA18381; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:13:29 -0400 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:13:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Christian Carey To: Waldemar Puszkarz Cc: thinkpad Subject: TP: Re: External floppy for 365ed In-Reply-To: <32531BBC.41C6@cosm.sc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wednesday, 2nd October 1996, Waldemar Puszkarz wrote: > Does anyone know how much [an external floppy for the 365ED] may cost and > where to get it real cheap. There was a posting in misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.portables from Digital House Communications (digital_house@midtn.campus.mci.net) for a variety of laptop floppy drives; perhaps they have one for the 365ED (they didn't mention one specifically). I suppose that "real cheap" is in the eye of the beholder, but they're advertising one for the 701C for $80 + shipping. Please note that I've never dealt with them, so I don't know anything about them other than what was in their posting. Regards, Christian. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 17:24:49 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA024987888; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:24:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13375; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:21:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:20:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12961; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:19:56 -0400 Received: from ig.cs.utk.edu (IG.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.149]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12954; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:19:53 -0400 Received: by ig.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id AA27268; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:19:51 -0400 Message-Id: <9610032119.AA27268@ig.cs.utk.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: chessie@megsinet.net (Dennis Pantazis) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, moore@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: List Admin Stuff In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 03 Oct 1996 11:03:19 CDT." <1.5.4.16.19961003110522.092f0c70@megspo.megsinet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 17:19:50 -0400 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu > I would like to propose to the list and its administrator the addition of a > couple of things to the header and signature file which will be added to all > messages that are sent to the list: > > 1. the subject line should get a "thinkpad:" to distinguish its source, > making the sorting of mail easier, and knowing its origin by a simple glance. *Ack* I can't stand these things. There's nothing more annoying than having precious screen space wasted by the same thing appearing on every subject line. Thinkpad list mail can already be sorted into folders using the "owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" address in the Return-Path header. (If your mailer doesn't supply the Return-Path header, it has a bug. It's required by the mail standards...See RFCs 821 and 1123.) You can also send mail to thinkpad-request@cs.utk.edu and ask to get the thinkpad list in digest format. (The *best* way by far to sort list mail is by sub-addressing, e.g. subscribing to the list at username+folder@domain, but not everyone supports that yet.) > 2. "(c) Sender's name -- thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > For help send a message to THINKPAD-REQUEST@CS.UTK.EDU with help in the > subject line" People can add copyright messages to their mail if they want to, but posting a message to the list is implicit permission for it to be redistributed to list members. The list can't add a copyright message on anyone else's behalf; to do so would be presumptive of the author's intent. > or reference to a simple web page that would contain the subsciption info > and archive info (ie: For help see http://www.cs.utk.edu/foo/bar) Okay, I'll add some sort of header or trailier with this information. > the (c) thing is for copywrite, todays lawyers are getting to be such pains > in the ass, we sould cover our buts. No, we should run them out of town on a rail. :) > It seems to me that people 'forget' where thay put their subscription > request and bother the list with 'unsub me posts.' This seems to happen in > spurts and this is has been one of those periods. The list software tries to filter those out, but doesn't always succeed. It usually works fine when people simply say "unsubscribe", not so well when someone says "can anyone tell me how to get off this list?" Keith From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 17:25:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA025167922; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:25:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13563; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:23:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:21:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13335; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:21:43 -0400 Received: from ig.cs.utk.edu (IG.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.149]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13317; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:21:37 -0400 Received: by ig.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id AA27291; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:21:29 -0400 Message-Id: <9610032121.AA27291@ig.cs.utk.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: Vicky Stables Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu, moore@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: List Admin Stuff In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 03 Oct 1996 12:53:38 PDT." <199610031954.MAA12331@baker.cnw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 17:21:29 -0400 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu > >It seems to me that people 'forget' where thay put their subscription > >request and bother the list with 'unsub me posts.' This seems to happen > >in spurts and this is has been one of those periods. > > Again, I think a weekly message with this info would be sufficient. I > don't like cluttered lists with unsub messages appended to every post. > It's especially annoying for those who get the digest version. I'll make sure the digest version only gets one header or trailer per digest, not one per message. Keith From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 17:42:19 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA029108938; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:42:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15416; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:40:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:38:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15146; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:38:06 -0400 Received: from igw3.watson.ibm.com ([129.34.139.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15087; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:37:26 -0400 Received: from mailhub1.watson.ibm.com (mailhub1.watson.ibm.com [9.2.249.31]) by igw3.watson.ibm.com (8.7.6/8.7.1) with ESMTP id RAA16764 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:37:16 -0400 Received: from lusitania.watson.ibm.com (lusitania.watson.ibm.com [9.2.11.96]) by mailhub1.watson.ibm.com (8.7.1/10-02-96) with SMTP id RAA603980 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:37:15 -0400 Received: from localhost by lusitania.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/6/25/96) id AA30395; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:37:14 -0400 Message-Id: <9610032137.AA30395@lusitania.watson.ibm.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: XFree86 on 760CD ?? Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 17:37:14 -0400 From: Chet Murthy Does anybody have a config file for this hardware? Also, does anybody out there have a recommendation on the right version of XF86 to run? I.e., should I upgrade to the newest release (3.1.2G)? Thanks, --chet-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 17:50:26 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA030739416; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:50:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16360; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:48:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:46:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16113; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:46:25 -0400 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16094; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:46:20 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id OAA02405; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:37:41 -0700 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma844378659.002399; Thu Oct 3 14:37:39 1996 Received: from jetsons.cadence.com ([158.140.14.154]) by cds9258.Cadence.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA08887; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:37:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:37:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610032137.OAA08887@cds9258.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: perley@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: chessie@megsinet.net (Dennis Pantazis) From: Don Perley Subject: Re: List Admin Stuff Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu At 11:03 AM 10/3/96 -0500, Dennis Pantazis wrote: >the (c) thing is for copywrite, todays lawyers are getting to be such pains >in the ass, we sould cover our buts. If you want to cover your butt, "(c)" is meaningless. use a real copyright sign or type the full word (the choice is obvious in normal ascii). I am not advocating that this be added automatically to messages. -Don Perley perley@cadence.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 18:09:28 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA034620567; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:09:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18289; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:07:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:05:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17978; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:04:58 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17972; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:04:54 -0400 Received: from bad_frog.cae.wisc.edu (d012013.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.12.13]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id RAA21123 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:04:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610032204.RAA21123@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 17:05:17 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Toshiba 2.1G on Thinkpad Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Toshiba has a 2.1G drive that appears to sell for less than $600, the MK2101MAN (about $650 with a caddy). Has anyone tried installing this in a TP 755? I have a 755CD. Does anyone know of a reason that the latest 755 BIOS update would not be able to recognize this 2G drive? Is it possible to use the FAT32 or equivalent on this to minimize fragmentation loss in Win95? Thanks Mike Redmond CAE, UW-Madison From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 18:56:49 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA048123407; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:56:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23521; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:56:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:54:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23279; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:54:23 -0400 Received: from upsmot03.msn.com (upsmot03.msn.com [204.95.110.85]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23273; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:54:18 -0400 Received: from upmajb04.msn.com ([204.95.110.81]) by upsmot03.msn.com (8.6.8.1/Configuration 4) with SMTP id PAA28786; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:48:48 -0700 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 96 10:57:44 UT From: "Ronald Shaw" Message-Id: To: "Daniel Cerys" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: External keyboards for Thinkpad Docks Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have the IBM track point external Keyboard, that I use on my desktop. If you like the tackpoint on your pad and like me hate mieces to pieces, it would be my recommendation. If you have any tendency for carpal tunnel problems, I find using a mouse agrevates mine, while the track point keyboard does not. ---------- From: Daniel Cerys Sent: Thursday, October 03, 1996 2:05 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: External keyboards for Thinkpad Docks I need to purchase a keyboard for my Dock II, so by default, I'm considering the IBM options. There are two keyboards that IBM sells: 1) the Standard keyboard, with rubber-dome technology 2) the Enhanced keyboard, with buckling-spring technology I've typed on the Standard keyboard at the local computer store and it seemed OK: solid, responsive, and quiet. Does anyone have any comparative familiarity with the Enhanced keyboard? Which do you like better, and why? Thanks, Dan ----------------------------------------------- Daniel Cerys Email: cerys@bbn.com BBN Work Phone: +1(617)873-4534 10 Moulton St. FAX: +1(617)873-2794 Mail Stop 6/4A Cambridge MA 02138 USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 19:21:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA052984893; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 19:21:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25235; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 19:20:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 19:18:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25029; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 19:18:20 -0400 Received: from enteract.com (root@enteract.com [206.54.252.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25016; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 19:18:15 -0400 Received: from isaiah-15.d.enteract.com (isaiah-15.d.enteract.com [206.54.253.94]) by enteract.com (8.8.Beta.6/8.7.6) with SMTP id SAA19628 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:18:11 -0500 (CDT) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Withdrawal info Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 23:18:22 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <32544414.18827234@smtp.enteract.com> References: <8795843F1B@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu> In-Reply-To: <8795843F1B@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:05:18 EST, you wrote: "My office is rather unanimous in preference of the TP701 and TP560 "for light travel. Those are low end aren't they? With the education "discount, the service from our university CoOp, and the fact that "most of the office aren't power users, the portability and neat "features are really what count. From my perspective, the IBM tech "support is about the best (comparatively speaking). Even the 755s "and 365s in use have fared well in my offices. Just a note of "comparison, we do have a few Zeniths, Toshibas, Dells and Macs as "well. Actually, it sounds like we agree. Yes, the systems are nice enough, if you aren't a power user. But other low-end systems outperform them, and they aren't intended for power users, either. IBMs have great design of the box, but what's under the hood could use a bit of tweaking. They do make a good subnotebook (I've a 701) and if you don't care about performance they're fine; but that didn't keep Compaq making the Aero. Also, the 701 was a high-end system that IBM came out with too late. They started out charging $5000 or so for them, until bigger screens and Pentiums made it obsolete within months of it's rollout. And for a high-end system as it was intended, performance is lousy. It seems the volume sales would be in making something lots of people could buy, better than the other guys make them. It's really why Toshiba is trouncing IBM in laptop sales, imo. Their systems perform better and hold up as well across the line, even in the $2000 range, while Thinkpads are spotty. The 755/760s are great, but I've heard lots of complaints about the 35x-36x line; the early 365s sound like crap from what I've heard, in fact. And again, performance wise, Toshibas with the same chips outperform them whether they're 21xxs, 4xxs, 7xxs, or what have you. I buy IBM because right now a well-supported machine is of more importance than a great performance system. Considering what I've heard about Toshiba's support, IBM could clean up if they strengthened the line. As it is, I'll be considering other companies for the 1st time when it's time to replace the 701, unless things change drastically. epbrown epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 3 23:49:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA090820984; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:49:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16567; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:48:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:43:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16138; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:43:43 -0400 Received: from moistmaster (bobz@dial111.skypoint.net [199.86.33.111]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16023; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:43:09 -0400 Received: (from bobz@localhost) by moistmaster (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA00282; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 22:25:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 22:25:44 -0500 From: Bob Message-Id: <199610040325.WAA00282@moistmaster> To: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu Subject: Re: vidcap & 755CD Success! In-Reply-To: Mail from 'Joshua Hosseinof ' dated: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:12:42 -0400 (EDT) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks a lot for the info. Vid cap works great now! > I went through the exact same thing on my 755cd, the solution was to > remove the device=ibmtpura.vxd from system.ini. I still haven't figured > out what it is for other than the description in the vxd file saying > Miscellaneous thinkpad vxd driver. I haven't seen anything not working > because of removing it. > > > On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Bob wrote: > > > Can somebody verify for me that microsoft's vidcap.exe (included with ms > > Video for Windows) will work with the 755CD's video capture card? I've > > wrestled with this for days, and I'm making no headway. If you're > > vidcapturing under win95, I'd love to hear from you. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 4 02:44:17 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA109011456; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 02:44:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28976; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 02:43:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Oct 1996 02:38:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28596; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 02:38:47 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28590; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 02:38:41 -0400 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-g-31.usc.edu [128.125.223.175]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id XAA14587; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961004063854.006c0518@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 23:38:54 -0700 To: "Guy W. Farrell" From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Withdrawal info Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 12:05 PM 10/3/96 EST, Guy W. Farrell wrote: >> What's really to discuss anymore? Toshiba's are better than IBM going >> across the entire line, going by benchmarks and I think user opinion for folks >> who've used both. They're rugged and equally reliable. IBM doesn't get >> competitive with them until you get to the high-end machines. >My office is rather unanimous in preference of the TP701 and TP560 >for light travel. Those are low end aren't they? I have a hard time calling either of these machines "low end", although IBM makes that easier with the 560 since they deemed it only worthy of a 1 year warranty. Regardless, I consider both of these machines "High End" laptops--not because of their features (clearly, neither is as "full featured" as the 760), but because of *other* features in their design--namely size and weight with minimal to no compromise in features (they lack only the cute stuff like flip-up keyboards and a spare "ultra bay"--but in other ways they pretty much have all the stuff you'll want or need). At any rate, some of us would *never* trade our very light-weight machines just to have a built-in floppy and CD-ROM, or even just stereo speakers. I almost never need any of these things, so why carry around twice as much weight? For that matter, when I *do* need them, I can still have them--they're just not as neatly integrated into the chassis of the machine. At any rate, the "low end" machines were/are the 3XX series. The High-Ends were the 7XX series, and the 5XX series were the sub-notebooks (now with the 560, more properly termed "ultralights" since they have larger screens and full keyboards). The 701 was great because it was still a 7XX series with the full 3-year warranty, and was still considered a "high-end" notebook, though not as full-featured as the 760's. Something that disappoints me with the 560 is the fact that they classified it in the 5XX line--giving it only a 1 year warranty and sort of implying it is "cheap". That's unfortunate, because it really is a great machine--and I think it deserves a 7XX classification with the associated benefits. But "cheap" or "low-end"? Certainly not. Both machines are really great and simply serve a different kind of mission than their full-featured cousins. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 4 04:03:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA116886180; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 04:03:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05353; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 04:02:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Oct 1996 03:58:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA04879; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 03:58:48 -0400 Received: from megspo.MEGSINET.NET (megspo.megsinet.net [206.222.62.232]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA04872; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 03:58:45 -0400 Received: from dial84.megsinet.net ([206.222.63.116]) by megspo.MEGSINET.NET (post.office MTA v1.9.1 ID# 0-11704) with SMTP id AAA75 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 02:53:56 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19961004025605.32df2f02@megspo.megsinet.net> X-Sender: chessie@megspo.megsinet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: chessie@megsinet.net (Dennis Pantazis) Subject: UGH!!! 701 to EZserv Again! Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 02:53:56 -0500 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Maybe someone jinxed me for requesting list modification, ok whoever the wiseguy is, knock it of! (JK :) ) My 701c is back to EZserv again. The machine went in about Sept 1 for a memory address error problem, and IBM replaced the system board and reloaded the preload. Heck they trew in a new cover too 'cuz they said it was broken. Unit recieved 9/26. Havn't had much time to get the machine reconfigured, all I was able to do was to change the parallel port to EPP and hook up the tape drive and to my surprise it worked ( I couldn't before), and backed up the hard drive. When I flipped the machine on again, the right most led (power indicator?) and the one that looks like a Xmas tree with a line through it horizontally blinked together about once a second, and the machine 'clicked' but nothing on the screen. (BTW Tha machine recieve nothing but the most delicate care, and had never been dropped or jarred or abused.) Called EZServ again, and they said it was the power board gone bad. To recap:IBM has replaced the system boards (upper and lower), cover now they will be replacing the power board (I'd think it would be on the system board) These things are all quite major and serious components. I am starting to think my machine is a lemon. UGH!!!! Anyone else had any serious problems with their 701's? Dennis -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- chessie@megsinet.net pantazis@uiuc.edu You can still see us at http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis !!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 4 09:48:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA154006912; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:48:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10449; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:47:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:42:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09964; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:42:24 -0400 Received: from mailgate32 (mailgate32-hme0.a001.sprintmail.com [205.137.196.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09950; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:42:15 -0400 Received: by mailgate32 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA10709; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:41:32 -0700 Message-Id: <199610041341.GAA10709@mailgate32> Received: from sdn-ts-022mdrelrp01.dialsprint.net(206.133.13.68) by mailfep3-hme0 via smap (KC5.24) id Q_205.137.194.40/Q_29941_1_32551406; Fri Oct 4 06:41:26 1996 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Tony Staples" Organization: Motion Motorsports To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:40:08 -0004 Subject: Re: TP: Re: External floppy for 365ed Reply-To: tstaples@sprintmail.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > On Wednesday, 2nd October 1996, Waldemar Puszkarz wrote: > > > Does anyone know how much [an external floppy for the 365ED] may cost and > > where to get it real cheap. > > There was a posting in misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.portables from > Digital House Communications (digital_house@midtn.campus.mci.net) for a > variety of laptop floppy drives; perhaps they have one for the 365ED (they > didn't mention one specifically). I suppose that "real cheap" is in the > eye of the beholder, but they're advertising one for the 701C for $80 + > shipping. Please note that I've never dealt with them, so I don't know > anything about them other than what was in their posting. > > Regards, > > Christian. > -- > Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 Just as an aside. I have purchased a ThinkPad AC Adaptor -40 from Digital House, and the service I received was first rate. I received my package two days after ordering, as promised, and the used charger was in like-new condition, as promised. I have no affiliation with them except as a satisfied customer. -Tony Staples tstaples@sprintmail.com <--- NOTE: NEW ADDRESS '88 Carrera Cabrio - Indischrot '87 944S Track Car - Indischrot with strange orange marks on the undercarrage "A Porsche in times of no sex is infinitely preferable to sex in times of no Porsche!" From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 4 10:30:36 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA159479435; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 10:30:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16023; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 10:28:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Oct 1996 10:26:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15690; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 10:26:34 -0400 Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15681; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 10:26:29 -0400 Received: from runngdog.pr.mcs.net (runngdog.pr.mcs.net [205.164.4.46]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.0/8.8.Beta.3) with SMTP id JAA07920; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:26:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961004142600.006f026c@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: runngdog@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 09:26:00 -0500 To: "Ronald Shaw" From: Dane Tyson Subject: RE: External keyboards for Thinkpad Docks Cc: thinkpad Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 10:57 AM 10/3/96 UT, you wrote: >I have the IBM track point external Keyboard, that I use on my desktop. If >you like the tackpoint on your pad >and like me hate mieces to pieces, it would be my recommendation. If you have >any tendency for >carpal tunnel problems, I find using a mouse agrevates mine, while the track >point keyboard does not. Is this keyboard usable with non-IBM computers? I have a Toshiba Tecra, with which I would like to use a trackpoint / accupoint type keyboard when docked, but I haven't been able to find one yet. Thanks, Dane Tyson From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 4 11:00:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA162501230; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 11:00:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11018; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:50:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:48:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10521; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:48:21 -0400 Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu (uconnvm.uconn.edu [137.99.26.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10513; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:48:15 -0400 Received: from oasis.vpia.uconn.edu by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 04 Oct 96 09:47:00 EDT Received: from OASIS/MERCURYQ by oasis.vpia.uconn.edu (Mercury 1.21); 4 Oct 96 09:50:57 EST Received: from MERCURYQ by OASIS (Mercury 1.21); 4 Oct 96 09:50:44 EST From: "Guy W. Farrell" Organization: The UConn Foundation, Inc. To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:50:35 EST Subject: Re: Withdrawal info Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-Id: <9D57AC4DB7@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I buy IBM because right now a well-supported machine is of more importance > than a great performance system. Considering what I've heard about Toshiba's > support, IBM could clean up if they strengthened the line. As it is, I'll be > considering other companies for the 1st time when it's time to replace the > 701, unless things change drastically. > epbrown > epbrown@enteract.com > Laptop Central > http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown Bottom line on performance: if you want power DON'T by a laptop ... any brand. Performance of the better P133 laptops is still only ~P90 desktop speed. Thats the penalty for portability. Anyone have some Zif stats? Guy W. Farrell Network Coordinator (860)486-5000 The UConn Foundation, Inc. (800)269-9965 U-Box 206 Storrs, CT 06269-4190 E-mail: gfarrell@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu Computer Support for Institutional Advancement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 4 12:06:35 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA172505190; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 12:06:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26852; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 12:04:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Oct 1996 11:59:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26331; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 11:59:47 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26316; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 11:59:40 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (ssh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA29974; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 10:02:58 -0600 Message-Id: <199610041602.KAA29974@aspen.wwsi.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: Bob Davenport Subject: Buying a Thinkpad in the US Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 10:02:58 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Anyone know where I can get a top-end 560 in-stock these days? Any suggestions? We'll be in Manhattan next week (for the Netscape Developers' Conference), so a place in the city might be quite good. We haven't been able to find it anywhere, yet! Cheers, ssh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 4 12:37:18 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA179287036; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 12:37:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00830; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 12:36:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Oct 1996 12:33:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00428; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 12:33:57 -0400 Received: from gauss.elee.calpoly.edu (root@gauss.elee.calpoly.edu [129.65.26.111]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00410; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 12:33:53 -0400 From: Received: from [128.115.186.237] (fukatsu-mac.llnl.gov [128.115.186.237]) by gauss.elee.calpoly.edu (8.6.12/ELEE) with SMTP id JAA03940; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:33:10 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:36:14 -0800 To: Steve Hultquist Subject: Re: Buying a Thinkpad in the US Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I read in a number of newspapers and magazines that almost ALL laptops with the new "thin" form factor are back ordered. They said there are a few places that have a couple in stock, but they are charging $300 to $500 more due to the "demand" -Mike >Anyone know where I can get a top-end 560 in-stock these days? Any >suggestions? We'll be in Manhattan next week (for the Netscape Developers' >Conference), so a place in the city might be quite good. > >We haven't been able to find it anywhere, yet! > >Cheers, >ssh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 4 13:41:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA196730869; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:41:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07478; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:39:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:36:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07229; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:36:31 -0400 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07211; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:36:26 -0400 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-3 #9830) id <01IA8PMFJ74W9X44OB@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 10:35:42 MST Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 10:25:08 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: 755CE + Win 3.11 + Minimized Fuel Gauge Display Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IA8Q2A4FLG9X44OB@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a 755CE running Windows 3.11 and just added the cisco TCP/IP software package. Everything works fine except wen I open a telnet window (or Mosaic sometimes) the minimized fuel gauge in the lower left corner of the screen shows through the bottom of the telnet screen. If I shift input focus to the fuel gauge (by clicking on it) then back to telnet (clicking on it) _then_ the fuel gauge actually disappears underneath (except for the part of it not covered in the first place). Oddly there is a minimized clock just to its left that never shows through. Both of these are started from the windows start-up program icon. So - the question is, how do I make the fuel gauge not overwrite anything fired up after it has minimized itself? I am in the custom power management mode and AC and CU are toggling in the display but even so once I toggle the input focus ala the above it stays underneath regardless. Thanks! Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 4 14:50:09 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA212445003; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 14:50:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13420; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 14:47:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Oct 1996 14:37:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12643; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 14:37:28 -0400 Received: from lombardi.wctc.net (root@lombardi.wctc.net [205.212.64.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12635; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 14:37:19 -0400 Received: from chets.is-notes ([205.213.90.54]) by lombardi.wctc.net (8.7.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA26879 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:41:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <325558A5.B10@wctc.net> Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 13:34:13 -0500 From: Chet Strebe X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad 365X Dos box References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi all, When I fire up a dos box on my 365X and switch to full screen it does not take up the whole screen. I'm left with a 2" black border all the way around. I've tried switching the video modes but nothing seems to help. Is there an updated video driver that I need? Do I need to make some other type of change? BTW I'm running Win95. C,ya Chet chets@wctc.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 4 16:55:13 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA242312512; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:55:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26218; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:52:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:48:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25650; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:48:39 -0400 Received: from alumni.cs.colorado.edu (apuzzo@alumni.cs.colorado.edu [128.138.192.80]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25625; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:48:24 -0400 Received: from localhost (apuzzo@localhost) by alumni.cs.colorado.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA08410; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 14:48:12 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 14:48:10 -0600 (MDT) From: Tony Apuzzo To: Keith Moore Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: List Admin Stuff In-Reply-To: <9610032119.AA27268@ig.cs.utk.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Firstly, this is my first post to the thinkpad list, I've been lurking for about 2weeks now. Overall this is one of the most solidly helpful and cruft-free lists I've seen for a while, I'm impressed with the caliber of the members! On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Keith Moore wrote: > *Ack* I can't stand these things. There's nothing more annoying than > having precious screen space wasted by the same thing appearing on > every subject line. > > Thinkpad list mail can already be sorted into folders using the > "owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" address in the Return-Path header. (If > your mailer doesn't supply the Return-Path header, it has a bug. It's > required by the mail standards...See RFCs 821 and 1123.) I would prefer setting "Sender: owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" if a user wants to get a direct reply, they should set Reply-To. Using "Sender:" is what all my other mailing lists use. Other than that, I like the way things are now -Tony ObThinkpad: Any pointers on getting an IBM Ethernet Credit Card Adapter II to work with a 755CD (P75 bios 1.43) running W95? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 4 16:55:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA242252503; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:55:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26220; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:52:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:49:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25760; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:49:56 -0400 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25740; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:49:39 -0400 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA10526; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johnp (tesu-pc2.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA25703 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:49:20 -0700 From: "John Pham" Message-Id: <961004135827.ZM13750@johnp> Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:58:24 -0700 In-Reply-To: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) "Thinkpad 760ED freezing problems" (Oct 3, 8:40pm) References: <325421b0.1687625@mailgate.execpc.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0.1 (4.0.1 Apr 9 1996) To: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) Subject: Re: Thinkpad 760ED freezing problems Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi Tom, I was the one who originally posted the message regarding the lock up problem with the 760ELD. In my case, it would locked up after extended use in the beginning but now will just lock up if I moved it from a desk to my lap. If you could let everyone know what your technician find out regarding this problem, I think it'll be appreciated. Best regards, John On Oct 3, 8:40pm, Tom Kustner wrote: > Subject: Thinkpad 760ED freezing problems > I am putting out a general call to see if anyone else is having a > problem of the following nature: > > After being on and actively used (no hibernation) for 3-6 hours, our > Thinkpad 760ED freezes up. No error message, no GPF, nothing. It is > just simply frozen. The only option is to turn the machine off and > on. Doing a BIOS test shows all components as being OK. This still > occurs even after upgrading to the latest BIOS (v1.02). I have Dr. > Watson running and so sometimes, he pops up when we are actively using > a specific application, but his message justs says "Application X had > a "Unknown" fault at...". > > While I have not seen this problem reported here, someone the other > day in the comp.sys.laptops Usenet group reported that they returned > twenty-three 760ELD machines to IBM because of a similar problem that > occurred in DOS, Unix, Windows 3.1, Windows 95, etc. and was > unresolvable. This story was in response to another user who > reported, among other things, at having the freeze problem. > > A technician for our vendor, who has a *lot* of experience with these > Thinkpads, is checking into the problem, though he hasn't had problems > like this himself with Windows 3.1 or Windows 95. > > If anyone has had this problem and resolved it, could you please let > me know? I have never heard of problems like this with the 760C > series and can only guess it exists with some of the 760E models. > Either that, or a number of us are shooting ourselves in the foot > unknowingly. Any help would be appreciated. > > Tom Kustner > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- > Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation > System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. > Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA > Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay's. >-- End of excerpt from Tom Kustner -- ------------------------------------------------------ | John Pham Phone: (800) 422-7044 | | Lantronix Systems Engr. (714) 453-7107 | | 15353 Barranca Parkway Fax: (714) 450-7226 | | Irvine, CA 92718 Email: johnp@lantronix.com | ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 4 17:04:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA244763083; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 17:04:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27390; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 17:03:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Oct 1996 17:02:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27245; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 17:02:41 -0400 Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu (uconnvm.uconn.edu [137.99.26.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27233; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 17:02:36 -0400 Received: from oasis.vpia.uconn.edu by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 04 Oct 96 17:01:12 EDT Received: from OASIS/MERCURYQ by oasis.vpia.uconn.edu (Mercury 1.21); 4 Oct 96 17:05:09 EST Received: from MERCURYQ by OASIS (Mercury 1.21); 4 Oct 96 17:05:00 EST From: "Guy W. Farrell" Organization: The UConn Foundation, Inc. To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 17:04:56 EST Subject: Re: Buying a Thinkpad in the US Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-Id: Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > >Anyone know where I can get a top-end 560 in-stock these days? Any > >suggestions? We'll be in Manhattan next week (for the Netscape Developers' > >Conference), so a place in the city might be quite good. > > > >We haven't been able to find it anywhere, yet! > > > >Cheers, > >ssh UConn CoOp had 'em a month ago, but I don't check on a regular basis. We're also a few hours outside NYC. Guy W. Farrell Network Coordinator (860)486-5000 The UConn Foundation, Inc. (800)269-9965 U-Box 206 Storrs, CT 06269-4190 E-mail: gfarrell@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu Computer Support for Institutional Advancement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 4 17:31:28 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA255084686; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 17:31:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00188; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 17:30:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Oct 1996 17:28:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29831; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 17:28:41 -0400 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29814; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 17:28:36 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA87699 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 21:28:16 GMT Received: from slip129-37-211-66.wi.us.ibm.net(129.37.211.66) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smal1YDM2; Fri Oct 4 21:28:04 1996 Message-Id: <32557FA9.1594@ibm.net> Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 16:20:41 -0500 From: "Joseph C. Wilson" Reply-To: jcwilso@ibm.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: External keyboards for Thinkpad Docks References: <199610031805.OAA21243@doppleboch.bbn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Dan, I have the extended TP keyboard w/ the trackpoint and love it. It would be very hard to use anything else now. It is extremely rugged (it has survived several 2-3 foot drops from my keyboard tray to the hard floor plus a beer spilled in the early days). Having the TrackPoint is a huge plus for me as I find using a mouse very awkward after getting used to the point on my 755cx and external keyboard. On the downside, they are pretty expensive. When you think you can get a decent keyboard for $25-30 the $100 plus for the extended keyboard is pretty stiff. For me the investment was worth it. Good luck (BTW, I use the keyboard w/ a Dock II). Joe Wilson Milwaukee, WI From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 4 18:23:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA264717816; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 18:23:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05407; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 18:22:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Oct 1996 18:20:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05141; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 18:20:27 -0400 Received: from zima.bbn.com (ZIMA.BBN.COM [128.89.8.110]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05127; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 18:20:22 -0400 Received: from doppleboch.bbn.com (doppleboch.bbn.com [128.89.6.100]) by zima.bbn.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA03858; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 18:20:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from cerys@localhost) by doppleboch.bbn.com (8.7.3/8.7.3/sl1.1) id SAA21730; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 18:20:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 18:20:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199610042220.SAA21730@doppleboch.bbn.com> From: Daniel Cerys To: jcwilso@ibm.net Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: External keyboards for Thinkpad Docks In-Reply-To: <32557FA9.1594@ibm.net> References: <199610031805.OAA21243@doppleboch.bbn.com> <32557FA9.1594@ibm.net> Comments: Hyperbole mail buttons accepted, v3.18.6. Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Joseph C. Wilson wrote on 4 October 1996: > Dan, > > I have the extended TP keyboard w/ the trackpoint and love it. It would > be very hard to use anything else now. It is extremely rugged (it has > survived several 2-3 foot drops from my keyboard tray to the hard floor > plus a beer spilled in the early days). Having the TrackPoint is a huge > plus for me as I find using a mouse very awkward after getting used to > the point on my 755cx and external keyboard. > > On the downside, they are pretty expensive. When you think you can get > a decent keyboard for $25-30 the $100 plus for the extended keyboard is > pretty stiff. For me the investment was worth it. > > Good luck (BTW, I use the keyboard w/ a Dock II). Joe, I really like the feel of the internal keyboard on my 760CD. Do you know whether the extended TP keyboards have the same feel & response as the recent vintage Thinkpads (e.g., 760CD)? Dan ----------------------------------------------- Daniel Cerys Email: cerys@bbn.com BBN Work Phone: +1(617)873-4534 10 Moulton St. FAX: +1(617)873-2794 Mail Stop 6/4A Cambridge MA 02138 USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 4 21:09:09 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA287427748; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 21:09:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA18007; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 21:08:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Oct 1996 21:03:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16942; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 21:03:46 -0400 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16936; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 21:03:41 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id BAA198896; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 01:03:38 GMT Received: from slip129-37-211-150.wi.us.ibm.net(129.37.211.150) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smahtkCkR; Sat Oct 5 01:03:32 1996 Message-Id: <3255B381.43C7@ibm.net> Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 20:01:53 -0500 From: "Joseph C. Wilson" Reply-To: jcwilso@ibm.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu, Daniel Cerys Subject: Re: External keyboards for Thinkpad Docks References: <199610031805.OAA21243@doppleboch.bbn.com> <32557FA9.1594@ibm.net> <199610042220.SAA21730@doppleboch.bbn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I really like the feel of the internal keyboard on my 760CD. Do you know > whether the extended TP keyboards have the same feel & response as the > recent vintage Thinkpads (e.g., 760CD)? Dan, Haven't tried a 760/560 so I can't say for sure. There is a lot more key travel on the keyboard than on my 755cx. Both have excellent tactile feel. The "buckling spring" keyboard is unlike (and preferable to) any other keyboard I have used. Newer IBM keyboards (desktops) don't have the buckling spring and I feel they are inferior to the older, higher quality (IMHO), ones. Joe Wilson Milwaukee, WI From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 4 21:21:57 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA289768516; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 21:21:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19662; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 21:21:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 4 Oct 1996 21:19:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19420; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 21:19:33 -0400 Received: from ig.cs.utk.edu (IG.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.149]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19409; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 21:19:31 -0400 Received: by ig.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id AA01225; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 21:19:28 -0400 Message-Id: <9610050119.AA01225@ig.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: Tony Apuzzo Cc: Keith Moore , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: moore@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: List Admin Stuff In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 04 Oct 1996 14:48:10 MDT." Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 21:19:28 -0400 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I would prefer setting "Sender: owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" if a user > wants to get a direct reply, they should set Reply-To. Using "Sender:" > is what all my other mailing lists use. Sender is supposed to contain the address of the original sender of the message. RFC 822 allows for the possibility of a message sent on behalf of someone else, or on behalf of multiple people. In those cases, Sender is the address of the person who actually sends the message, while From is the address(es) of the person/people on whose behalf the message is sent. Yes, a lot of lists do misuse Sender so that it contains the address of the list maintainer. I refuse to contribute to this degradation of the protocol. [replies directed to me; this isn't on topic for the list] Keith From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 5 12:30:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA103443021; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:30:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29701; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:28:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:20:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29045; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:20:48 -0400 Received: from inet-smtp-gw-1.us.oracle.com (inet-smtp-gw-1.us.oracle.com [192.86.155.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29016; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:20:40 -0400 Received: from mailsun2.us.oracle.com by inet-smtp-gw-1.us.oracle.com with ESMTP (8.6.12/37.7) id JAA15797; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 09:20:31 -0700 Received: by mailsun2.us.oracle.com (SMI-8.6/37.8) id JAA26884; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 09:24:51 -0700 Message-Id: <199610051624.JAA26884@mailsun2.us.oracle.com> Date: 05 Oct 96 09:18:46 -0700 From: "Michael Keihl" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Message received; away on vacation 10/7-10/11 Reply-To: mkeihl@us.oracle.com Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Oracle InterOffice (version 4.0.2.1.40) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_ORCL_8188326_0_11919610051025520" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu --=_ORCL_8188326_0_11919610051025520 Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit Content-Type:text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I won't be checking messages until I return on 10/14. Mike ___________________________________________________________________________ Michael Keihl Oracle Corporation mkeihl@us.oracle.com (Server Technologies) Phone: (415) 506 - 4557 500 Oracle Parkway MS 659413 Fax: (415) 506 - 7203 Redwood Shores, CA 94065 --=_ORCL_8188326_0_11919610051025520 Content-Type:message/rfc822 Date: 05 Oct 96 09:15:21 From:"owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU" To:;@CS.UTK.EDU Subject:thinkpad digest for Sat, 05 Oct 1996 Reply-to:thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type:multipart/mixed; boundary="=_ORCL_8188326_0_11919610051025521" --=_ORCL_8188326_0_11919610051025521 Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit Content-Type:text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The Thinkpad-Digest list is brought to you by Keith Moore. To subscribe or unsubscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu --=_ORCL_8188326_0_11919610051025521 Content-Description:Today's topics Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit Content-Type:text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="anonymous-attachment-1" Content-Disposition:attachment; filename="anonymous-attachment-1" Today's topics: Re: Buying a Thinkpad in the US (mfukatsu@gauss.elee.calpoly.edu) 755CE + Win 3.11 + Minimized Fuel Gauge Display (billy@MIX.COM) Thinkpad 365X Dos box (Chet Strebe) Re: List Admin Stuff (Tony Apuzzo) Re: Thinkpad 760ED freezing problems (John Pham) Re: Buying a Thinkpad in the US (Guy W. Farrell) Re: External keyboards for Thinkpad Docks (Joseph C. Wilson) Re: External keyboards for Thinkpad Docks (Daniel Cerys) Re: External keyboards for Thinkpad Docks (Joseph C. Wilson) Re: List Admin Stuff (Keith Moore) --=_ORCL_8188326_0_11919610051025521 Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit Content-Type:text/plain; name="anonymous-attachment-2"; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition:attachment; filename="anonymous-attachment-2" Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 09:36:14 -0800 From: To: Steve Hultquist CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Buying a Thinkpad in the US Message-Id: I read in a number of newspapers and magazines that almost ALL laptops with the new "thin" form factor are back ordered. They said there are a few places that have a couple in stock, but they are charging $300 to $500 more due to the "demand" -Mike >Anyone know where I can get a top-end 560 in-stock these days? Any >suggestions? We'll be in Manhattan next week (for the Netscape Developers' >Conference), so a place in the city might be quite good. > >We haven't been able to find it anywhere, yet! > >Cheers, >ssh --=_ORCL_8188326_0_11919610051025521 Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit Content-Type:text/plain; name="anonymous-attachment-3"; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition:attachment; filename="anonymous-attachment-3" Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 10:25:08 -0700 From: billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 755CE + Win 3.11 + Minimized Fuel Gauge Display Message-Id: <01IA8Q2A4FLG9X44OB@Opus1.COM> I have a 755CE running Windows 3.11 and just added the cisco TCP/IP software package. Everything works fine except wen I open a telnet window (or Mosaic sometimes) the minimized fuel gauge in the lower left corner of the screen shows through the bottom of the telnet screen. If I shift input focus to the fuel gauge (by clicking on it) then back to telnet (clicking on it) _then_ the fuel gauge actually disappears underneath (except for the part of it not covered in the first place). Oddly there is a minimized clock just to its left that never shows through. Both of these are started from the windows start-up program icon. So - the question is, how do I make the fuel gauge not overwrite anything fired up after it has minimized itself? I am in the custom power management mode and AC and CU are toggling in the display but even so once I toggle the input focus ala the above it stays underneath regardless. Thanks! Billy Y.. --=_ORCL_8188326_0_11919610051025521 Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit Content-Type:text/plain; name="anonymous-attachment-4"; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition:attachment; filename="anonymous-attachment-4" Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 13:34:13 -0500 From: Chet Strebe To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Thinkpad 365X Dos box Message-Id: <325558A5.B10@wctc.net> Hi all, When I fire up a dos box on my 365X and switch to full screen it does not take up the whole screen. I'm left with a 2" black border all the way around. I've tried switching the video modes but nothing seems to help. Is there an updated video driver that I need? Do I need to make some other type of change? BTW I'm running Win95. C,ya Chet chets@wctc.net --=_ORCL_8188326_0_11919610051025521 Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit Content-Type:text/plain; name="anonymous-attachment-5"; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition:attachment; filename="anonymous-attachment-5" In-Reply-To: <9610032119.AA27268@ig.cs.utk.edu> Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 14:48:10 -0600 From: Tony Apuzzo To: Keith Moore CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: List Admin Stuff Message-Id: Firstly, this is my first post to the thinkpad list, I've been lurking for about 2weeks now. Overall this is one of the most solidly helpful and cruft-free lists I've seen for a while, I'm impressed with the caliber of the members! On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Keith Moore wrote: > *Ack* I can't stand these things. There's nothing more annoying than > having precious screen space wasted by the same thing appearing on > every subject line. > > Thinkpad list mail can already be sorted into folders using the > "owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" address in the Return-Path header. (If > your mailer doesn't supply the Return-Path header, it has a bug. It's > required by the mail standards...See RFCs 821 and 1123.) I would prefer setting "Sender: owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" if a user wants to get a direct reply, they should set Reply-To. Using "Sender:" is what all my other mailing lists use. Other than that, I like the way things are now -Tony ObThinkpad: Any pointers on getting an IBM Ethernet Credit Card Adapter II to work with a 755CD (P75 bios 1.43) running W95? --=_ORCL_8188326_0_11919610051025521 Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit Content-Type:text/plain; name="anonymous-attachment-6"; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition:attachment; filename="anonymous-attachment-6" In-Reply-To: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) "Thinkpad 760ED freezing problems" (Oct 3, 8:40pm) Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 13:58:24 -0700 From: "John Pham" To: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) CC: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 760ED freezing problems Message-Id: <961004135827.ZM13750@johnp> Hi Tom, I was the one who originally posted the message regarding the lock up problem with the 760ELD. In my case, it would locked up after extended use in the beginning but now will just lock up if I moved it from a desk to my lap. If you could let everyone know what your technician find out regarding this problem, I think it'll be appreciated. Best regards, John On Oct 3, 8:40pm, Tom Kustner wrote: > Subject: Thinkpad 760ED freezing problems > I am putting out a general call to see if anyone else is having a > problem of the following nature: > > After being on and actively used (no hibernation) for 3-6 hours, our > Thinkpad 760ED freezes up. No error message, no GPF, nothing. It is > just simply frozen. The only option is to turn the machine off and > on. Doing a BIOS test shows all components as being OK. This still > occurs even after upgrading to the latest BIOS (v1.02). I have Dr. > Watson running and so sometimes, he pops up when we are actively using > a specific application, but his message justs says "Application X had > a "Unknown" fault at...". > > While I have not seen this problem reported here, someone the other > day in the comp.sys.laptops Usenet group reported that they returned > twenty-three 760ELD machines to IBM because of a similar problem that > occurred in DOS, Unix, Windows 3.1, Windows 95, etc. and was > unresolvable. This story was in response to another user who > reported, among other things, at having the freeze problem. > > A technician for our vendor, who has a *lot* of experience with these > Thinkpads, is checking into the problem, though he hasn't had problems > like this himself with Windows 3.1 or Windows 95. > > If anyone has had this problem and resolved it, could you please let > me know? I have never heard of problems like this with the 760C > series and can only guess it exists with some of the 760E models. > Either that, or a number of us are shooting ourselves in the foot > unknowingly. Any help would be appreciated. > > Tom Kustner > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation > System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. > Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA > Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay's. >-- End of excerpt from Tom Kustner -- ------------------------------------------------------ | John Pham Phone: (800) 422-7044 | | Lantronix Systems Engr. (714) 453-7107 | | 15353 Barranca Parkway Fax: (714) 450-7226 | | Irvine, CA 92718 Email: johnp@lantronix.com | ------------------------------------------------------ --=_ORCL_8188326_0_11919610051025521 Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit Content-Type:text/plain; name="anonymous-attachment-7"; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition:attachment; filename="anonymous-attachment-7" Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 17:04:56 -0500 From: "Guy W. Farrell" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Buying a Thinkpad in the US Message-Id: > >Anyone know where I can get a top-end 560 in-stock these days? Any > >suggestions? We'll be in Manhattan next week (for the Netscape Developers' > >Conference), so a place in the city might be quite good. > > > >We haven't been able to find it anywhere, yet! > > > >Cheers, > >ssh UConn CoOp had 'em a month ago, but I don't check on a regular basis. We're also a few hours outside NYC. Guy W. Farrell Network Coordinator (860)486-5000 The UConn Foundation, Inc. (800)269-9965 U-Box 206 Storrs, CT 06269-4190 E-mail: gfarrell@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu Computer Support for Institutional Advancement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --=_ORCL_8188326_0_11919610051025521 Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit Content-Type:text/plain; name="anonymous-attachment-8"; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition:attachment; filename="anonymous-attachment-8" Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 16:20:41 -0500 From: "Joseph C. Wilson" Reply-To: jcwilso@ibm.net To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: External keyboards for Thinkpad Docks Message-Id: <32557FA9.1594@ibm.net> Dan, I have the extended TP keyboard w/ the trackpoint and love it. It would be very hard to use anything else now. It is extremely rugged (it has survived several 2-3 foot drops from my keyboard tray to the hard floor plus a beer spilled in the early days). Having the TrackPoint is a huge plus for me as I find using a mouse very awkward after getting used to the point on my 755cx and external keyboard. On the downside, they are pretty expensive. When you think you can get a decent keyboard for $25-30 the $100 plus for the extended keyboard is pretty stiff. For me the investment was worth it. Good luck (BTW, I use the keyboard w/ a Dock II). Joe Wilson Milwaukee, WI --=_ORCL_8188326_0_11919610051025521 Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit Content-Type:text/plain; name="anonymous-attachment-9"; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition:attachment; filename="anonymous-attachment-9" In-Reply-To: <32557FA9.1594@ibm.net> Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 18:20:13 -0400 From: Daniel Cerys To: jcwilso@ibm.net CC: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: External keyboards for Thinkpad Docks Message-Id: <199610042220.SAA21730@doppleboch.bbn.com> Joseph C. Wilson wrote on 4 October 1996: > Dan, > > I have the extended TP keyboard w/ the trackpoint and love it. It would > be very hard to use anything else now. It is extremely rugged (it has > survived several 2-3 foot drops from my keyboard tray to the hard floor > plus a beer spilled in the early days). Having the TrackPoint is a huge > plus for me as I find using a mouse very awkward after getting used to > the point on my 755cx and external keyboard. > > On the downside, they are pretty expensive. When you think you can get > a decent keyboard for $25-30 the $100 plus for the extended keyboard is > pretty stiff. For me the investment was worth it. > > Good luck (BTW, I use the keyboard w/ a Dock II). Joe, I really like the feel of the internal keyboard on my 760CD. Do you know whether the extended TP keyboards have the same feel & response as the recent vintage Thinkpads (e.g., 760CD)? Dan ---------------------------------------------- Daniel Cerys Email: cerys@bbn.com BBN Work Phone: +1(617)873-4534 10 Moulton St. FAX: +1(617)873-2794 Mail Stop 6/4A Cambridge MA 02138 USA --=_ORCL_8188326_0_11919610051025521 Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit Content-Type:text/plain; name="anonymous-attachment-10"; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition:attachment; filename="anonymous-attachment-10" Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 20:01:53 -0500 From: "Joseph C. Wilson" Reply-To: jcwilso@ibm.net To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, Daniel Cerys Subject: Re: External keyboards for Thinkpad Docks Message-Id: <3255B381.43C7@ibm.net> > I really like the feel of the internal keyboard on my 760CD. Do you know > whether the extended TP keyboards have the same feel & response as the > recent vintage Thinkpads (e.g., 760CD)? Dan, Haven't tried a 760/560 so I can't say for sure. There is a lot more key travel on the keyboard than on my 755cx. Both have excellent tactile feel. The "buckling spring" keyboard is unlike (and preferable to) any other keyboard I have used. Newer IBM keyboards (desktops) don't have the buckling spring and I feel they are inferior to the older, higher quality (IMHO), ones. Joe Wilson Milwaukee, WI --=_ORCL_8188326_0_11919610051025521 Content-Transfer-Encoding:7bit Content-Type:text/plain; name="anonymous-attachment-11"; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition:attachment; filename="anonymous-attachment-11" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 04 Oct 1996 14:48:10 MDT." Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 21:19:28 -0400 From: Keith Moore Reply-To: moore@cs.utk.edu To: Tony Apuzzo CC: Keith Moore , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: List Admin Stuff Message-Id: <9610050119.AA01225@ig.cs.utk.edu> > I would prefer setting "Sender: owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" if a user > wants to get a direct reply, they should set Reply-To. Using "Sender:" > is what all my other mailing lists use. Sender is supposed to contain the address of the original sender of the message. RFC 822 allows for the possibility of a message sent on behalf of someone else, or on behalf of multiple people. In those cases, Sender is the address of the person who actually sends the message, while From is the address(es) of the person/people on whose behalf the message is sent. Yes, a lot of lists do misuse Sender so that it contains the address of the list maintainer. I refuse to contribute to this degradation of the protocol. [replies directed to me; this isn't on topic for the list] Keith --=_ORCL_8188326_0_11919610051025521-- --=_ORCL_8188326_0_11919610051025520-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 5 12:40:18 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA104553617; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:40:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00632; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:39:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:37:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00501; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:37:51 -0400 Received: from netcom3.netcom.com (phr@netcom3.netcom.com [192.100.81.103]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00490; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:37:47 -0400 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom3.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id JAA28023; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 09:37:43 -0700 Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 09:37:43 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199610051637.JAA28023@netcom3.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 760ED freezing problems Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It sounds to me like something is overheating.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 5 13:42:29 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA109767348; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 13:42:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04266; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 13:41:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 5 Oct 1996 13:39:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04047; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 13:39:00 -0400 Received: from nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04035; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 13:38:55 -0400 Received: from rheo-port.pse.umass.edu (actually nscs28p20.remote.umass.edu) by nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with SMTP (PP); Sat, 5 Oct 1996 19:38:27 +0200 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961005173829.00682268@129.13.95.1> X-Sender: ui2k@129.13.95.1 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 13:38:29 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Axel Hartmann Subject: Re: Message received; away : NOT AGAIN Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does this mean that everyone will recieve "Thank you, recieved" notes with attached digests until this guy's back? This one goes "against" the whole list, but I've recently been getting a bunch of delivery failure reports, too, when sending to the list. Argghhhh! People, get your eMailers under control! axel At 09:18 05.10.96 -0700, you wrote: >I won't be checking messages until I return on 10/14. > >Mike >___________________________________________________________________________ > >Michael Keihl Oracle Corporation >mkeihl@us.oracle.com (Server Technologies) >Phone: (415) 506 - 4557 500 Oracle Parkway MS 659413 >Fax: (415) 506 - 7203 Redwood Shores, CA 94065 > > >Date: 05 Oct 96 09:15:21 >From:"owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU" >To:;@CS.UTK.EDU >Subject:thinkpad digest for Sat, 05 Oct 1996 >Reply-to:thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type:multipart/mixed; boundary="=_ORCL_8188326_0_11919610051025521" > >The Thinkpad-Digest list is brought to you by Keith Moore. > >To subscribe or unsubscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu [snip] ....................................................................... . Axel Hartmann . . Paper : 619 South East Street; Amherst, MA 01002; USA . . Voice : [USA] (413) 253-1404 . . E-Mail : mailto:Axel.Hartmann@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de . . Homepage : http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Axel.Hartmann . . Mail-Drop : 42.4deg N, 72.5deg W . ....................................................................... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 5 14:56:47 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA116481806; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 14:56:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09129; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 14:53:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 5 Oct 1996 14:47:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08674; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 14:47:32 -0400 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08605; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 14:47:26 -0400 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-3 #9830) id <01IAA6O2679C9X4BT1@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 11:47:22 MST Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 11:44:24 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Faxworks V3.00G058 and comm drivers? Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IAA6UHTUAM9X4BT1@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just upgraded to Faxworks V3 from IBM's BBS and found out it doesn't work with the Cybercom comm driver. It does with the PC-DOS stock comm.drv driver but then that one doesn't do well at 28.8 either, so.. what's available that can do both? Thanks! Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 5 15:41:00 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA120284454; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 15:40:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12463; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 15:40:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 5 Oct 1996 15:38:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12225; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 15:38:32 -0400 Received: from halon.sybase.com (halon.sybase.com [192.138.151.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12218; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 15:38:26 -0400 Received: from smtp1.sybase.com (sybgate) by halon.sybase.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4/SybFW4.0) id AA27142; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:39:42 -0700 Received: from shelty.sybase.com by smtp1.sybase.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/SybH3.5-030896) id AA19972; Sat, 5 Oct 96 12:37:52 PDT Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 13:40:21 -0600 (MDT) From: Life is just a bowl of queries! To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <961005134021.a8@sybgate.sybase.com> Subject: RE: Message received; away : NOT AGAIN Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Axel, Gee, I'm really sorry. I even included an apology in my stupid auto reply. No, "everyone" will not recieve one of these stupid auto replies. I have managed to make a list that includes everybody whom I know to be likely to send mail to this list (that is, everybody whom I could find as having done it the last time I was traveling) and have made my auto reply facility ignore mail from those senders. I guess I missed you, but I'll put you on that list immediately. I DO NOT understand why it is so infuriating to so many people to occassionally get one of these auto replies, but it's not apparently irritating at all for the entire list to be deluged with complaints about them. I guess there's something about the "open" world that I just don't get. Anyway, Axel, rest assure that you will be added to my list of people whose email to the thinkpad list is ignored. Again, I am sorry. I'm also very happy that everybody else on this list has mailers that are fully conformant with all of the relevant Internet standards, and I apologize for being the last person to exist the stone ages. Sigh... Jim From: SMTP%"axel.hartmann@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de" 5-OCT-1996 11:44:23.41 To: JMELTON CC: Subj: Re: Message received; away : NOT AGAIN Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961005173829.00682268@129.13.95.1> X-Sender: ui2k@129.13.95.1 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 13:38:29 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Axel Hartmann Subject: Re: Message received; away : NOT AGAIN Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does this mean that everyone will recieve "Thank you, recieved" notes with attached digests until this guy's back? This one goes "against" the whole list, but I've recently been getting a bunch of delivery failure reports, too, when sending to the list. Argghhhh! People, get your eMailers under control! axel At 09:18 05.10.96 -0700, you wrote: >I won't be checking messages until I return on 10/14. > >Mike >___________________________________________________________________________ > >Michael Keihl Oracle Corporation >mkeihl@us.oracle.com (Server Technologies) >Phone: (415) 506 - 4557 500 Oracle Parkway MS 659413 >Fax: (415) 506 - 7203 Redwood Shores, CA 94065 > > >Date: 05 Oct 96 09:15:21 >From:"owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU" >To:;@CS.UTK.EDU >Subject:thinkpad digest for Sat, 05 Oct 1996 >Reply-to:thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type:multipart/mixed; boundary="=_ORCL_8188326_0_11919610051025521" > >The Thinkpad-Digest list is brought to you by Keith Moore. > >To subscribe or unsubscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu [snip] ....................................................................... . Axel Hartmann . . Paper : 619 South East Street; Amherst, MA 01002; USA . . Voice : [USA] (413) 253-1404 . . E-Mail : mailto:Axel.Hartmann@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de . . Homepage : http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Axel.Hartmann . . Mail-Drop : 42.4deg N, 72.5deg W . ....................................................................... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 5 20:19:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA144881182; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 20:19:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00726; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 20:18:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 5 Oct 1996 20:14:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00305; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 20:14:31 -0400 Received: from ig.cs.utk.edu (IG.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.149]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00300; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 20:14:29 -0400 Received: by ig.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id AA27123; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 20:14:27 -0400 Message-Id: <9610060014.AA27123@ig.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: Axel Hartmann Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, moore@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Message received; away : NOT AGAIN In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 05 Oct 1996 13:38:29 EDT." <1.5.4.32.19961005173829.00682268@129.13.95.1> Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 20:14:27 -0400 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Does this mean that everyone will recieve > "Thank you, recieved" notes with attached > digests until this guy's back? Nope. This guy's toast. -Keith From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 6 02:41:30 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA181074089; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 02:41:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24560; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 02:40:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 6 Oct 1996 02:34:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24086; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 02:34:11 -0400 Received: from Fe3.rust.net (Fe3.rust.net [204.157.12.254]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24080; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 02:34:01 -0400 Received: from Rust.net (liv-19.rust.net [206.42.195.119]) by Fe3.rust.net (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id CAA02869; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 02:31:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961006063301.006d9b68@rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 02:33:01 -0400 To: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Re: Using 701c as (not _with_!) an external modem Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 11:07 PM 10/2/96 HST, you wrote: >I wrote: >> >Every so often it would be useful to use my 701c as an external modem - > >Bill Bryan replied: > >> Forgive me but what you ask is just down right silly. What you >> suggest is workable but why. You would be better off buying your other >> computer a cheap modem(like an old 14.4 from a garage sale) and with the >> time and money saved, take in a half dozen movies... > >Not forgiven; if you don't know 'why' then you shouldn't call me "silly". >Among other things, I want to be able to intercept packets, which I >can't do with a regular modem. > >Out of curiosity, how would buying another modem save me money (over the >TP, which I already have)? > >- David (ross@math.hawaii.edu) > David I'd like to apologize for calling your question a silly idea. It doesn't even sound like me. Must have been my alter ego that wrote that one. I misunderstood what you truly wanted. So you want to catch packets. You may already know, but DOS lets you use Pipes, and Filters. Pipes to let you do basic redirection from say screen to com1. The tricker part here is the filter. You will want to redirect your output from the communications program into a filter, that will read the headers of the packets and upon making a match, send them to a file otherwise pass the packets out to the next redirection which would be a comm port on your laptop out to your desktop. Maybe you could find some source code from the university computer network department that can be modified to your liking and compiled into a filter. It's even possible that someone at the university has a similar thing already rolled. You didn't say what you were trying to catch. B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- Hunter Thompson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 6 03:33:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA185467195; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 03:33:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA28505; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 03:32:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 6 Oct 1996 03:31:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA28398; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 03:31:01 -0400 Received: from gol1.gol.com (root@gol1.gol.com [202.243.48.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA28392; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 03:30:57 -0400 Received: from slin (tky1-39.gol.com [202.243.51.39]) by gol1.gol.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with ESMTP id QAA20400 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:30:46 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199610060730.QAA20400@gol1.gol.com> From: "Midori Katsumi" To: Subject: RE: Industrial Computer Liquidators phone number? Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 21:54:45 +0900 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1132 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Default Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu unsubscribe. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 6 16:40:12 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA006054411; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:40:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20729; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:38:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:26:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20059; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:26:38 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20051; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:26:28 -0400 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-g-14.usc.edu [128.125.223.158]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id NAA05274; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 13:26:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961006202651.01121e44@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 13:26:51 -0700 To: Life is just a bowl of queries! From: Randy Whittle Subject: RE: Message received; away : NOT AGAIN Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 01:40 PM 10/5/96 -0600, Life is just a bowl of queries! wrote: >Gee, I'm really sorry. I even included an apology in my stupid >auto reply. No, "everyone" will not recieve one of these stupid >auto replies. I have managed to make a list that includes everybody >whom I know to be likely to send mail to this list (that is, everybody >whom I could find as having done it the last time I was traveling) >and have made my auto reply facility ignore mail from those senders. >I guess I missed you, but I'll put you on that list immediately. > >I DO NOT understand why it is so infuriating to so many people to >occassionally get one of these auto replies, but it's not apparently >irritating at all for the entire list to be deluged with complaints >about them. Hey Mike, Take it easy. I don't think it was the auto-reply that was annoying, just the humpteen attached messages that came with it! :-) At any rate, folks--don't make such a big deal out of a little mistake. You'll thank yourself when you make one yourself. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 6 19:42:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA065255364; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 19:42:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29565; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 19:42:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 6 Oct 1996 19:37:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29237; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 19:37:23 -0400 Received: from SLONUNX01.3-SOFT.com (root@SLONUNX01.3-SOFT.COM [205.236.174.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29231; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 19:37:20 -0400 Received: from smtp.3-SOFT.com (smtp.3-SOFT.com [205.236.174.119]) by SLONUNX01.3-SOFT.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id TAA27466 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 19:37:11 -0400 Received: by smtp.3-SOFT.com with Microsoft Mail id <3258576B@smtp.3-SOFT.com>; Sun, 06 Oct 96 18:05:47 PDT From: Jorge Mariano To: thinkpad Subject: Merlin vs TP760ED vs Full screen 800x600 ??? anyone ? Date: Sun, 06 Oct 96 19:29:00 PDT Message-Id: <3258576B@smtp.3-SOFT.com> Encoding: 8 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi , As anyone come up with a solution to use merlin in 800x600x ? ? ? with a TP760ED ? I can only get 640x480x16 ? Comments, Hints ? ? Jorge From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 6 21:21:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA086331300; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 21:21:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04802; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 21:19:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 6 Oct 1996 21:16:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04632; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 21:16:36 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04626; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 21:16:30 -0400 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-g-32.usc.edu [128.125.223.176]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id SAA24911; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 18:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961007011700.006ca8c0@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 18:17:00 -0700 To: Life is just a bowl of queries! From: Randy Whittle Subject: RE: Message received; away : NOT AGAIN Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 01:40 PM 10/5/96 -0600, Life is just a bowl of queries! wrote: >Gee, I'm really sorry. I even included an apology in my stupid >auto reply. No, "everyone" will not recieve one of these stupid >auto replies. I have managed to make a list that includes everybody >whom I know to be likely to send mail to this list (that is, everybody >whom I could find as having done it the last time I was traveling) >and have made my auto reply facility ignore mail from those senders. >I guess I missed you, but I'll put you on that list immediately. > >I DO NOT understand why it is so infuriating to so many people to >occassionally get one of these auto replies, but it's not apparently >irritating at all for the entire list to be deluged with complaints >about them. Hey Mike, Take it easy. I don't think it was the auto-reply that was annoying, just the humpteen attached messages that came with it! :-) At any rate, folks--don't make such a big deal out of a little mistake. You'll thank yourself when you make one yourself. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 7 11:48:58 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA263113336; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:48:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27327; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:46:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:38:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26548; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:38:05 -0400 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26542; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:37:51 -0400 Received: from pm30-13.execpc.com (pm30-13.execpc.com [169.207.12.53]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.7.6/8.7.5) with SMTP id KAA06600; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 10:38:07 -0500 From: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) To: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 760ED freezing problems Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 15:40:10 GMT Organization: Emjay Corporation Message-Id: <325b2391.5487227@mailgate.execpc.com> References: <199610051637.JAA28023@netcom3.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <199610051637.JAA28023@netcom3.netcom.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/16.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 5 Oct 1996 09:37:43 -0700, you wrote: >It sounds to me like something is overheating.. > Agreed. When the technician opened up the ticket, IBM threw out the usual "What version of Windows are you running? Maybe that's the source...", somewhat understandably. They sobered up when they heard it was locking up at the DOS prompt, totally out of Windows. Tom Kustner -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation =20 System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay's. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 7 12:44:08 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA270036646; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:44:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02411; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:41:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:39:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02064; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:39:15 -0400 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02025; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:38:59 -0400 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA00935; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 09:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johnp (tesu-pc2.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA15119 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Mon, 7 Oct 1996 09:38:50 -0700 From: "John Pham" Message-Id: <961007094723.ZM3230@johnp> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 09:47:20 -0700 In-Reply-To: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) "Re: Thinkpad 760ED freezing problems" (Oct 7, 3:36pm) References: <325421b0.1687625@mailgate.execpc.com> <961004135827.ZM13750@johnp> <32592302.5343872@mailgate.execpc.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0.1 (4.0.1 Apr 9 1996) To: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) Subject: Re: Thinkpad 760ED freezing problems Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Tom, That was the same response I got from IBM tech support when I called them last month. Since I was running both WFW 3.11, Win95 and now WinNT 4.0 on the machine, the person whom I spoke with didn't know how I could do that initially and then turn around to say those are unsupported setup. However, the tech I spoke with at Easyserv said this is quite a common problem with the system board which they had a hard time keeping in stock. My system board was supposed to be replaced but I'm still having the same problem which made me wonder if it was replaced after all. John On Oct 7, 3:36pm, Tom Kustner wrote: > Subject: Re: Thinkpad 760ED freezing problems > On Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:58:24 -0700, you wrote: > > >Hi Tom, > > > >I was the one who originally posted the message regarding the lock up > >problem with the 760ELD. In my case, it would locked up after extended > >use in the beginning but now will just lock up if I moved it from a desk > >to my lap. > > > >If you could let everyone know what your technician find out regarding > >this problem, I think it'll be appreciated. > > > >Best regards, > > > >John > > > > I'll keep you posted. The vendor technician (who has tons of ThinkPad > experience) has opened his own case number with IBM. When he > initially made the call, they wondered if it was the OS, but sat up in > their chair, so to speak, when they were told it also locks up in DOS. > > Regards, > > Tom Kustner > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- > Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation > System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. > Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA > Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay's. >-- End of excerpt from Tom Kustner From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 7 13:03:58 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA273627837; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:03:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04329; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:02:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:59:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04004; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:59:54 -0400 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03989; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:59:48 -0400 Received: from earth.execpc.com (hseaman@earth [169.207.16.1]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.7.6/8.7.5) with ESMTP id MAA11016 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:00:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (hseaman@localhost) by earth.execpc.com (8.7.6/8.7) with SMTP id LAA06854 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:59:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:59:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Harry Seaman X-Sender: hseaman@earth To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 750C altF3, F4 problems Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone had this problem, or any observations on it? When I put the 750C in the "sleep modes" Alt F3 or Alt F4, the screen blanks, hard drive shuts down ok. Then, after some minutes, the HD spins up, shups down, spins up again, then shuts down for a while. then the whole cycle repeats. (sorry I'm not more definitive about the "whiles", but I didn't make accurate time notes) I'm sure this is a lot of extra wear and tear on the HD best regards, harry seaman From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 7 13:59:48 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA281001187; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:59:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08057; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:57:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:55:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07747; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:55:07 -0400 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07741; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:55:04 -0400 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id NAA16219; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:51:33 -0400 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199610071751.NAA16219@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: 750C altF3, F4 problems To: hseaman@execpc.com (Harry Seaman) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:51:32 -0400 (EDT) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: from Harry Seaman at "Oct 7, 96 11:59:41 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Has anyone had this problem, or any observations on it? > > When I put the 750C in the "sleep modes" Alt F3 or Alt F4, the screen > blanks, hard drive shuts down ok. Then, after some minutes, the HD spins > up, shups down, spins up again, then shuts down for a while. then the > whole cycle repeats. (sorry I'm not more definitive about the "whiles", > but I didn't make accurate time notes) > > I'm sure this is a lot of extra wear and tear on the HD I have a 750Cs that does the same under Win95 when put in power-conservation mode (Fn-F3). The frequency of this behavior went down significantly when I upgraded from 4MB to 12MB RAM, which lead me to the conclusion that Win95 was doing some kind of swapping every few minutes. The fact that this doesn't happen under DOS supports this conclusion as well. I read somewhere that you can change the virtual memory settings under Win95 to something user-defined (probably disable) to avoid swapping if you have 20MB or more RAM, but this isn't "recommended." Your hard drive shouldn't spin up at all when suspended (Fn-F4)... Regards, Dave. > > best regards, harry seaman > -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the ^^ PLEASE NOTE CHANGE ^^ world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 7 14:28:09 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA287002888; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 14:28:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10455; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 14:26:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Oct 1996 14:23:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10259; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 14:23:27 -0400 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10242; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 14:23:22 -0400 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for id OAA08945; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 14:22:48 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 14:22:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Syquest PCMCIA drive w/ removable media Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I stumbled across this while browsing some palmtop pages and thought it might be of interest to others here. http://www.syquest.com/syquest/p960109b.htm http://www.microtechint.com/PRpages/PRSQ1100 It's a PCMCIA type III device with a removable 100 MB cartridge (a-la ZIP and other Syquest products). Basically a Zip-like drive that fits into a PCMCIA slot. Cartridges are about 2" square and weigh less than an ounce - pretty impressive for 100 MB. I can't find any more info about it. Was it discontinued? Is it really ugly and sticks a foot outside the PCMCIA slot or something? Anybody know any more? -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 7 15:16:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA296185803; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 15:16:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14186; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 15:16:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Oct 1996 15:13:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13865; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 15:13:12 -0400 Received: from PAULWAL.paulwal.mindspring.com (user-168-121-83-49.dialup.mindspring.com [168.121.83.49]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13842; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 15:12:40 -0400 From: Received: by PAULWAL.paulwal.mindspring.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.17/2.12um) id AA0090; Mon, 07 Oct 96 15:12:31 -0400 Message-Id: <9610071912.AA0090@PAULWAL.paulwal.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 96 14:27:03 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP760CD, non-ibm disk drives X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <89_134_4_844712823> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hey, everyone, I'm a new subscriber with some questions about adding non-ibm disk drives to my 760CD. I've looked through the archived messages for late 1995 and all of 1996 (they stop in Feb), and I've learned that: 1. 2.5 inch laptop IDE drives have a 44-pin connector, which includes the standard 40-pin IDE bus and 4 pins for power. 2. IBM packages ThinkPad drives in a caddy with a proprietary centronics-lookin' 60-pin connector. If you take the caddy apart you find a standard 2.5 inch IDE drive with 44-pin connector. Apparently this caddy assembly is standard across the ThinkPad family lines. Sometimes people buy old drives just to get the caddy. 3. A company named Datastor (www.dstor.com) makes a mounting bracket (ITR210X) that you can buy from The Internet Shopping Network (www.internet.net) for about $60. This doesn't provide the whole caddy, but does have the 44-to-60-pin adapter and some mounting hardware. 4. The Ultrabay in the 760CD allows me to add a second drive using with a $50 adapter. I assume the adapter converts from the larger centronics-lookin' connector to the smaller centronics-lookin' connector. I got my hands on a Quantum Europa 1080 drive the other day for a good price and I want to make it work as either the primary or a second drive. Physically the Quantum drive is 10mm shorter than the 1.2GB drive that came in the 760CD, so it appears that there's enough room for the Datastor mounting bracket on the end. The Quantum drive is the same thickness as the IBM drive (19mm) so there's no room for a full case around the drive. Questions: 0. Is there a site with more information on this subject? 1. Has anyone used the Datastor bracket with large drives in the 760CD? The Datastor web site doesn't address the issue. 2. If it does work, will the drive be mounted upside down? Is this OK? What do people use to protect the circuit card on the drive? 3. Has anyone seen the second HDD adapter for the Ultrabay? Is it just a couple of connectors? 4. Will any caddy work in the 760CD? 5. Will the ThinkPad BIOS recognize the geometry of other mfgr's drives? 6. Do I own a $190 paperweight? Thanks in advance. Paul Walukewicz --------------o------------- paulwal@colum.mindspring.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 7 17:01:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA017112102; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 17:01:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20337; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 16:24:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Oct 1996 16:21:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20119; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 16:21:04 -0400 Received: from london.uk.pi.net (london.uk.pi.net [194.73.192.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20107; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 16:21:01 -0400 Received: from pi-user.uk.pi.net (d2a20.uk.pi.net [194.73.76.132]) by london.uk.pi.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA04611 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:13:08 +0100 Message-Id: <3259656A.54C4@uk.pi.net> Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 21:17:46 +0100 From: Alexander Man X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Yep, I'm a new ThinkPad owner! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, not exactly an owner of a NEW ThinkPad! Recently been given one by a good friend. It's a 750Cs with 12Mb ram with Windows 95 running quite comfortably. No manuals supplied, but I've managed to survive so far! I think the battery is not in very good shape. It lasts for just over one hour before it starts beeping like hell! Silly question 1... what is the operating period of the 750Cs with a new battery? Silly question 2... is the battery that expensive? I've been quoted between 150-190 UK pounds for one??!!!!! Alexander Man From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 7 17:14:58 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA019222897; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 17:14:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24407; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 17:14:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Oct 1996 17:06:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23769; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 17:06:29 -0400 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23763; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 17:06:24 -0400 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA19782; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 17:02:40 -0400 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199610072102.RAA19782@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: Yep, I'm a new ThinkPad owner! To: alex@uk.pi.net (Alexander Man) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 17:02:39 -0400 (EDT) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <3259656A.54C4@uk.pi.net> from Alexander Man at "Oct 7, 96 09:17:46 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Well, not exactly an owner of a NEW ThinkPad! > > Recently been given one by a good friend. It's a 750Cs with 12Mb ram > with Windows 95 running quite comfortably. > > No manuals supplied, but I've managed to survive so far! There is a lot of good information in the FAQ as well as at the IBM PC FTP site. You can also get the latest drivers and BIOS from that site. ftp://swiss-ftp.ai.mit.edu/archive/thinkpad/faq/ ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/ -- /pub/mobiles or something similar) > I think the battery is not in very good shape. It lasts for just over > one hour before it starts beeping like hell! > > Silly question 1... what is the operating period of the 750Cs with a > new battery? It depends on your power management configuration and whether you're accessing the disk a lot. My battery runs out after an hour and quarter of continuous disk thrashing under Win95. It lasts just under 2 hours w/ Win95 under "normal" conditions for me (fast processor speed, 5 min HD spindown, 1 active PCMCIA slot). I can squeeze out about 2.5 hours under DOS with slow processor speed, 1 min HD spindown (with no further spinup), and continuous use of my PCMCIA modem. > Silly question 2... is the battery that expensive? I've been quoted > between 150-190 UK pounds for one??!!!!! I've seen ads on the misc.forsale.* groups for new or like-new TP750 batteries in the $100 range. But you'll likely pay a higher price in UK. Dave. > > Alexander Man > -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the ^^ PLEASE NOTE CHANGE ^^ world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 7 21:36:30 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA058418588; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:36:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10657; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:35:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:32:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10530; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:32:47 -0400 Received: from mail.pop-frankfurt.com (mail.ipf.de [194.152.32.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10523; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:32:45 -0400 Received: from ip239.ipf.de (ip239.ipf.de [194.152.33.239]) by mail.pop-frankfurt.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA12370 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 02:32:10 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199610080132.CAA12370@mail.pop-frankfurt.com> From: "Joerg Klemenz" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Date: Tue, 08 Oct 96 03:30:10 -0100 Reply-To: "Joerg Klemenz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Joerg Klemenz's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Using Toshiba Points for ThinkPad Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi! You probably know that the TrackPoint III (tm) tends to get dirty and slimy after a while. If you cleaned it with a brush like me you also know that they are easily destroyed :( Maybe I just have unusually dirty fingers. Now I had the brilliant Idea of replacing it with a Toshiba point. And YES, it works! Toshiba points are a bit higher and feel like plastic (they are plastic after all) but I like them much better... (WARNING: Check first if the higher Toshiba Point hits the screen when closed) joerg klemenz (joergk@ipf.de) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 7 21:54:57 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA061799695; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:54:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11722; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:53:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:52:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11591; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:52:39 -0400 Received: from kendall.chenoweth.net ([205.246.12.253]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11572; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:52:35 -0400 Received: from localhost (kendall@localhost) by kendall.chenoweth.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA00333 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:52:16 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:52:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Kendall Chenoweth To: Thinkpfcc-ad Listserve Subject: DOS on DISK Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Okay, I did something stupid. Can anyone help me out? I have been running LINUX on my thinkpad 750. A friend gave me an unused 750 hard drive with all the DOS 6.30 software and stuff on it. I turned on compression succuessfully, and moved the DOS directory to the uncompressed drive. This is all well and good, execpt that, being a UNIX weenie, I assumed that the xcopy included recursive directires by default. I don't have any backup (although I should... i know ... i know) and would like to know if some one can tell me how I can get the SYSTEM and DATA directories under the DOS directory back? I doubt this system is under support and IBM isn't very help ful about that usually anyway. Thanks... Kendall kendall@chenoweth.ultranet.com http://www.ultranet.com/~kendall 20 Eames Street, Apt #19 Fidelity Investments, Systems Framingham, MA 01704 VOICE (508) 787-7744 VOICE (508) 875-8098 PAGER (800) 759-8888 [beeper #2128450] From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 7 22:13:49 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA064290826; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:13:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13174; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:13:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:11:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12904; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:11:58 -0400 Received: from itchy.mindspring.com (itchy.mindspring.com [204.180.128.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12837; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:11:20 -0400 Received: from .mindspring.com (ip143.pasadena.ca.interramp.com [38.12.85.143]) by itchy.mindspring.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA17611; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:08:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 96 19:03:55 PDT From: Fred Peters Sender: Fred Peters To: daveh@greenheart.com, don@watchnet.com, drt-3d@worldnet.att.net, Edward Nuki , george@triteal.com, jarnold@mainstream.net, jless9226@aol.com, john.saddy.3d@sympatico.ca, mbotnick@earthlink.net, Mike Richter , photo-3d@bobcat.etsu.edu, pompadour@earthlink.net, Steve Dans <102216.471@compuserve.com>, The Airgun Letter , tjarvis@lainet.com, tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu ------------------------------------- Name: Fred Peters E-mail: fpeters@mindspring.com (Fred Peters) Date: 10/7/96 Time: 7:03:55 PM This message was sent by Chameleon ------------------------------------- Hello, Because of the recent sale of interramp to mindspring my email address has been changed to fpeters@mindspring.com please change your mailer so you won't forget. Fred Peters From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 7 22:43:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA067132594; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:43:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14947; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:42:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:40:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14816; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:40:55 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14803; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:40:38 -0400 Received: from galois.math.hawaii.edu.hawaii.edu by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA03900; Mon, 7 Oct 96 16:38:57 HST From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <9610080238.AA03900@kahuna.math.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Syquest PCMCIA drive w/ removable media To: jokim@mit.edu (John H. Kim) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 96 16:38:56 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "John H. Kim" at Oct 7, 96 2:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > It's a PCMCIA type III device with a removable 100 MB cartridge (a-la > ZIP and other Syquest products). Basically a Zip-like drive that fits > into a PCMCIA slot. Cartridges are about 2" square and weigh less > than an ounce - pretty impressive for 100 MB. I can't find any more > info about it. Syquest was hyping this big time last Spring - lots of space on their web page, etc. I saw an ad (w/photo) for it in the TigerSoft catalogue - looked great, and I was all set to buy one. Then, all mention of it suddenly disappeared. I emailed Syquest, and they didn't respond. Clearly, they withdrew it, and for some reason didn't want even to acknowledge it had ever existed. A pity, I think there is big market for such a device. - David (ross@math.hawaii.edu) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 8 01:19:29 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA094391968; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:19:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA24567; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:18:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:15:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA24335; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:15:08 -0400 Received: from halon.sybase.com (halon.sybase.com [192.138.151.33]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA24317; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:15:05 -0400 Received: from smtp1.sybase.com (sybgate) by halon.sybase.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4/SybFW4.0) id AA01652; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:16:24 -0700 Received: from shelty.sybase.com by smtp1.sybase.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/SybH3.5-030896) id AA29944; Mon, 7 Oct 96 22:14:35 PDT Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:17:03 -0600 (MDT) From: Life is just a bowl of queries! To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <961007231703.26bb@sybgate.sybase.com> Subject: RE: 750C altF3, F4 problems Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Harry Seaman wrote: > >Has anyone had this problem, or any observations on it? > >When I put the 750C in the "sleep modes" Alt F3 or Alt F4, the screen >blanks, hard drive shuts down ok. Then, after some minutes, the HD spins >up, shups down, spins up again, then shuts down for a while. then the >whole cycle repeats. (sorry I'm not more definitive about the "whiles", >but I didn't make accurate time notes) > >I'm sure this is a lot of extra wear and tear on the HD I have had very much the same problem with my 755C and I believe that there is a bug in the BIOS. I find that if I am connected to AC power and suspend the machine, I get the same sort of cycling of the hard disk that you describe. However, if I first unplug my power adaptor so that I'm running on batteries, then go into suspend mode, then plug the power adaptor back in, it works as expected. Sigh... Jim From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 8 01:36:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA097872964; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:36:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25488; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:35:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:34:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25301; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:34:15 -0400 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25295; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:34:13 -0400 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id BAA28597; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:30:44 -0400 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199610080530.BAA28597@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: DOS on DISK To: kendall@ultranet.com (Kendall Chenoweth) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: from Kendall Chenoweth at "Oct 7, 96 09:52:14 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Okay, I did something stupid. Can anyone help me out? > > I have been running LINUX on my thinkpad 750. A friend gave me an unused 750 > hard drive with all the DOS 6.30 software and stuff on it. Hmm...is this legal? > I turned on > compression succuessfully, and moved the DOS directory to the uncompressed > drive. This is all well and good, execpt that, being a UNIX weenie, I assumed > that the xcopy included recursive directires by default. I'm not sure what you did here...are you using Stacker? Doublespace? Drivespace? (I don't know what comes standard with IBM PC-DOS). If what you had was your complete DOS directory on your compressed drive, used xcopy to copy this direcory (non-recursively) to an uncompressed drive, then deleted your original DOS directory on the compressed drive, AND you did not write anything else to the compressed drive, then yes, it is possible to recover all files deleted on the compressed drive by using Norton Utilities' unerase (or equivalent). Note, however, that you will have to provide the first letter of each file, which may not be easy to do. Otherwise, you are probably out of luck. If all that you're missing are the DOS files, you can install any version of MS-DOS 6.x on your TP750. About the only thing missing from MS-DOS, which is in PC-DOS, are the Phoenix (I think) PCMCIA drivers. You can get all other neessary drivers (video, audio, PCMCIA, power management) from the IBM FTP site (ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com .. /pub/mobiles or something) for free. You can probably get MS-DOS 6.22 for about $25. > I don't have any > backup (although I should... i know ... i know) and would like to know if some > one can tell me how I can get the SYSTEM and DATA directories under the DOS > directory back? I doubt this system is under support and IBM isn't very help > ful about that usually anyway. Thanks... Stick with Linux & X. It's nicer :) Hope that helps. Dave. > Kendall > > kendall@chenoweth.ultranet.com http://www.ultranet.com/~kendall > 20 Eames Street, Apt #19 Fidelity Investments, Systems > Framingham, MA 01704 VOICE (508) 787-7744 > VOICE (508) 875-8098 PAGER (800) 759-8888 [beeper #2128450] > -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the ^^ PLEASE NOTE CHANGE ^^ world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 8 10:17:41 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA160204257; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 10:17:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03625; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 10:15:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Oct 1996 10:10:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03039; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 10:10:39 -0400 Received: from mailgate21 (mailgate21-hme0.a001.sprintmail.com [205.137.196.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02986; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 10:10:21 -0400 Received: by mailgate21 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA04032; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 07:09:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199610081409.HAA04032@mailgate21> Received: from sdn-ts-031mdrelrp02.dialsprint.net(206.133.14.69) by mailfep1-hme0 via smap (KC5.24) id Q_205.137.194.36/Q_29574_1_325a6093; Tue Oct 8 07:09:23 1996 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Tony Staples" Organization: Motion Motorsports To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 10:07:57 -0004 Subject: Mwave Modem - dialtone recognition ??? Reply-To: tstaples@sprintmail.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a new (to me) 760C, running Win95, with the MWave modem. The modem works fine on a conventional analog line such as at my home, but I m having difficulty with it at work. I have an analog line, coming from an SRX pbx system, and the MWave modem will not recognize the initial dial tone. The line has a higher pitched dial tone when you first go off hook. After a 9 is dialed, to reach an outside line, the dialtone drops to the conventional tone. The MWave modem will not dial any digits that are entered, as it does not recognize the initial dial tone as being valid. I only get an error message saying that no dialtone was detected, and to ensure the modem is plugged in . . . yada, yada, yada. I normally use a Hayes Optima 288 PCMCIA, and a USR Courier on this same line without any grief. I have looked through the online documentation for the MWave, and I cannot find any AT command settings that will force the modem to dial the initial 9 to get the conventional tone, or to just ignore the tone, an dial blindly. I have upgraded to all the latestbios and drivers, from the IBM web site, for MWave, and everything else. I have also applied Service Pack 1, and all the Win95 patches eleased since service pack 1, as posted on the Microsoft Win95 web site. None of these upgrades affected the MWave modem's ability to detect my pbx's dial tone, although they did solve another anomaly I was experiencing with dial up networking not remembering my password. Any input into solving this one is greatly appreciated. -Tony Staples tstaples@sprintmail.com <---NOTE: NEW ADDRESS From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 8 10:35:17 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA162515313; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 10:35:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05004; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 10:33:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Oct 1996 10:32:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04887; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 10:32:27 -0400 Received: from mail.physics.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.244.140]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04860; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 10:31:40 -0400 Received: from geoff.physics.ox.ac.uk (pc138.physics.ox.ac.uk) by mail.physics.ox.ac.uk with SMTP (Oxford Physics Sendmail for ) id AA27868; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:29:25 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961008143041.0068de3c@mail.physics.ox.ac.uk> X-Sender: hogangp@mail.physics.ox.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 15:30:41 +0100 To: tstaples@sprintmail.com From: Geoff Hogan Subject: Re: Mwave Modem - dialtone recognition ??? Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Tony, >documentation for the MWave, and I cannot find any AT command settings >that will force the modem to dial the initial 9 to get the >conventional tone, or to just ignore the tone, an dial blindly. I I'm no expert in such things, but my PCMCIA modem accepts a range of ATX commands for extended results code selection: X0: blind dialling; X1: blind dialling, gives connect speed; X2: needs dialtone, gives connect speed; X3: blind dialling, gives connect speed, BUSY enabled; X4: needs dialtone, all messages on. X4 is the default for my modem - how about trying ATX3 in your initialization string? Geoff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr G P Hogan Laser Group, Clarendon Laboratory, Tel: +44 1865 272205 Parks Road, Oxford, OX1 3PU Fax: +44 1865 272400 UK Email: g.hogan@physics.ox.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 8 12:01:19 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA175150478; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 12:01:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11297; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:57:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:55:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11068; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:55:21 -0400 Received: from lamb.sas.com (lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11027; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:55:12 -0400 Received: from mozart by lamb.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Gateway/01-23-95) id AA29559; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:55:05 -0400 Received: from ntmail01.pc.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA27351; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:43:01 -0400 Received: by ntmail01.pc.sas.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BBB50D.FB6B82F0@ntmail01.pc.sas.com>; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:43:54 -0400 Message-Id: From: Arne Johnson To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: Mwave Modem - dialtone recognition ??? Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:43:52 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Try this: Open up your Dial up 'connectoid' Properties (Start->Programs->Accessories->Dial Up Networking and right click on your connection icon). Under the modem description, click on 'Configure', click on the 'Connection' tab, and de-select "Wait for dial tone vefore dialing." >---------- >From: Tony Staples[SMTP:tstaples@sprintmail.com] >Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 1996 6:11 AM >To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >Subject: Mwave Modem - dialtone recognition ??? > >I have a new (to me) 760C, running Win95, with the MWave modem. The >modem works fine on a conventional analog line such as at my home, but >I m having difficulty with it at work. I have an analog line, coming >from an SRX pbx system, and the MWave modem will not recognize the >initial dial tone. The line has a higher pitched dial tone when you first >go off hook. After a 9 is dialed, to reach an outside line, the >dialtone drops to the conventional tone. The MWave modem will not >dial any digits that are entered, as it does not recognize the initial >dial tone as being valid. I only get an error message saying that no >dialtone was detected, and to ensure the modem is plugged in . . . >yada, yada, yada. > >I normally use a Hayes Optima 288 PCMCIA, and a USR Courier on this >same line without any grief. I have looked through the online >documentation for the MWave, and I cannot find any AT command settings >that will force the modem to dial the initial 9 to get the >conventional tone, or to just ignore the tone, an dial blindly. I >have upgraded to all the latestbios and drivers, from the IBM web site, for >MWave, and everything else. I have also applied Service Pack 1, >and all the Win95 patches eleased since service pack 1, as posted on >the Microsoft Win95 web site. None of these upgrades affected the >MWave modem's ability to detect my pbx's dial tone, although they did >solve another anomaly I was experiencing with dial up networking not >remembering my password. Any input into solving this one is greatly >appreciated. >-Tony Staples >tstaples@sprintmail.com <---NOTE: NEW ADDRESS > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 8 13:53:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA195277224; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:53:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22019; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:51:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:47:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21662; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:47:55 -0400 Received: from PAULWAL.paulwal.mindspring.com (user-168-121-83-49.dialup.mindspring.com [168.121.83.49]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21639; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:47:26 -0400 From: Received: by PAULWAL.paulwal.mindspring.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.17/2.12um) id AA0079; Tue, 08 Oct 96 13:47:06 -0400 Message-Id: <9610081747.AA0079@PAULWAL.paulwal.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 08 Oct 96 13:39:07 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Mwave Modem - dialtone recognition ??? X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <69_134_4_844796347> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu From: "Geoff Hogan" > > Tony, > > >documentation for the MWave, and I cannot find any AT command settings > >that will force the modem to dial the initial 9 to get the > >conventional tone, or to just ignore the tone, an dial blindly. I > > I'm no expert in such things, but my PCMCIA modem accepts a range of ATX > commands for extended results code selection: X0: blind dialling; X1: blind > dialling, gives connect speed; X2: needs dialtone, gives connect speed; X3: > blind dialling, gives connect speed, BUSY enabled; X4: needs dialtone, all > messages on. X4 is the default for my modem - how about trying ATX3 in your > initialization string? > > Geoff Yes, the ATX0, X1, and X3 all disable dial tone detection. The complete description is in the "OS/2 Modem Help" document in the MWave folder (if you're using OS/2). It's also available under the "Help" menu selection in the MWave Modem window. Paul Walukewicz --------------o------------- paulwal@colum.mindspring.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 8 15:33:48 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA213543225; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:33:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00871; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:31:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:28:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00535; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:28:57 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00529; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:28:53 -0400 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-g-11.usc.edu [128.125.223.155]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id MAA28814; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 12:27:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961008192747.00721c20@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 12:27:47 -0700 To: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Syquest PCMCIA drive w/ removable media Cc: jokim@mit.edu (John H. Kim), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 04:38 PM 10/7/96 HST, David Ross wrote: >> It's a PCMCIA type III device with a removable 100 MB cartridge (a-la >> ZIP and other Syquest products). Basically a Zip-like drive that fits >> into a PCMCIA slot. Cartridges are about 2" square and weigh less >> than an ounce - pretty impressive for 100 MB. I can't find any more >> info about it. > >Syquest was hyping this big time last Spring - lots of space on their web >page, etc. I saw an ad (w/photo) for it in the TigerSoft catalogue - >looked great, and I was all set to buy one. Then, all mention of it >suddenly disappeared. I emailed Syquest, and they didn't respond. >Clearly, they withdrew it, and for some reason didn't want even to >acknowledge it had ever existed. A pity, I think there is big market >for such a device. I first saw this thing at Comdex Las Vegas in November 1993--just a couple months before I secured my first ThinkPad (a 750C). I had assumed they would be bringing it out soon after, but as usual SyQuest always has some bugs to work out. I never heard about it again until John Kim's mention of it here. If you're not already aware, SyQuest has had a few financial problems (dipping earnings, mainly). The Iomega Zip drive's success has really hurt them and they've been playing catch-up ever since. Furthermore a lot of their customers are pretty unhappy with some very weird pricing policies (I'm one of them). For instance, 2 1/2 years ago a 105 MB removable drive could be had--apparently uses the *identical* cartridge as the competitor to the (EZFlyer) Zip uses, except that the EZFlyer capacity is 135 MB. Today, the EZFlyer carts--which appear to be identical--cost a mere $20 a piece. The 105 MB carts are over $50. You'd think they'd back off on the pricing here, given the EZFlyer cartridge is virtually identical and holds more. Its bad enough to be holding obsolete equipment, even more bad to watch the mfgr. screw you on pricing of the "consumables". Even though I still have a SyQuest drive (the 275 version--which appears to have been usurped by the successor to the EZFlyer which is 250 MB or something), it wouldn't hurt my feelings if SyQuest went out of businesses. They've been playing some really silly games in pricing their old products with respect to their new ones. This would be forgivable if the new ones were significantly different, but they're not. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 8 17:31:35 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA235680291; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:31:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12648; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:28:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:16:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11140; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:16:01 -0400 Received: from ucs.orst.edu (UCS.ORST.EDU [128.193.4.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11131; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:15:57 -0400 Received: by ucs.orst.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/13Sep96-1023AM) id AA29271; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 14:15:39 -0700 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 14:15:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Mosley To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: ppa support for thinkpad and zip drive Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am using the non-scsi zip with my TP and the port replicator trying to install Slackware 3.1. Has anyone out there managed to mount the Zip drive sucessfully this way? I am having problems because when I try to mount the drive or install the ppa module, the thing says that 0x378 is being used by lp!?!!? Help! Alternatively, does anyone out there know a good Linux (Slackware) mail list? I dont get USENET :( THANKS! =============== Stephen Mosley Mosleys@ucs.orst.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 8 17:59:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA260991973; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:59:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14805; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:58:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:56:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14691; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:56:38 -0400 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14685; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:56:32 -0400 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA15634; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:52:30 -0400 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199610082152.RAA15634@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: ppa support for thinkpad and zip drive To: mosleys@UCS.ORST.EDU (Stephen Mosley) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:52:30 -0400 (EDT) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: from Stephen Mosley at "Oct 8, 96 02:15:39 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I am using the non-scsi zip with my TP and the port replicator trying to > install Slackware 3.1. Has anyone out there managed to mount the Zip > drive sucessfully this way? I am having problems because when I try to > mount the drive or install the ppa module, the thing says that 0x378 is > being used by lp!?!!? Help! I've never tried to mount any device thru the parallel port, but I doubt that it will work on a generic kernel. This may be wrong, but I am fairly sure that the generic kernels that come with Slackware X.Y have not been compiled with support for parallel port devices (e.g. CDROM, ZIP, tape drive). Most people install from IDE or SCSI CDROM/HD or floppy or over the network, so the extra drivers would waste space. I would recommend copying Slackware to your DOS partition and installing from that. Alternatively, get a hold of a kernel with proper parallel port device drivers installed and boot off of that. > Alternatively, does anyone out there know a good Linux (Slackware) mail > list? I dont get USENET :( I don't know of any Linux end-user mailing lists, though I'm sure there are some. There are Linux programmer related lists, such as kernel development, etc, but you probably aren't interested in those. Good luck, Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the ^^ PLEASE NOTE CHANGE ^^ world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 8 18:30:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA265543801; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:30:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16760; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:26:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:24:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16497; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:24:14 -0400 Received: from kendall.chenoweth.net ([205.246.12.253]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16488; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:24:05 -0400 Received: from localhost (kendall@localhost) by kendall.chenoweth.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA00231; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:23:32 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:23:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Kendall Chenoweth To: Dave Ahn Cc: Kendall Chenoweth , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: DOS on DISK In-Reply-To: <199610080530.BAA28597@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Dave Ahn wrote: |> I have been running LINUX on my thinkpad 750. A friend gave me an unused 750 |> hard drive with all the DOS 6.30 software and stuff on it. | |Hmm...is this legal? | This history of the drive is this. He bought the drive in anticipation of its use in a laptop he never purchased. It sat around unused for a couple of years. He forgot about the drive. He saw my laptop and remembered the drive. It being only 170 mb and having neglible value, he offered it to me. I suppose he could have sold it to me. Would that have made it more legal? Kendall p.s. I posted for help on this list, believing that it would be less tramatic than trying to explain the above story and get support from IBM. While I really like my thinkpad, I find their support very tiresome and irritating EVEN when you have all your paperwork in order. kendall@chenoweth.ultranet.com http://www.ultranet.com/~kendall 20 Eames Street, Apt #19 Fidelity Investments, Systems Framingham, MA 01704 VOICE (508) 787-7744 VOICE (508) 875-8098 PAGER (800) 759-8888 [beeper #2128450] DATA/FAX (508) 628-9283 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 8 19:32:47 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA277987567; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:32:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22702; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:31:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:28:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22271; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:28:03 -0400 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22258; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:27:59 -0400 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id TAA17519; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:24:27 -0400 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199610082324.TAA17519@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: DOS on DISK To: kendall@ultranet.com (Kendall Chenoweth) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:24:27 -0400 (EDT) Cc: kendall@ultranet.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: from Kendall Chenoweth at "Oct 8, 96 06:23:31 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > This history of the drive is this. He bought the drive in anticipation > of its use in a laptop he never purchased. It sat around unused for a > couple of years. He forgot about the drive. He saw my laptop and > remembered the drive. It being only 170 mb and having neglible value, > he offered it to me. I suppose he could have sold it to me. Would > that have made it more legal? I was questioning the "DOS 6.30 and software" part, not the HD itself. If you did not get a written license for DOS 6.30, you may be violating the law. I am in a similar position where I need some drivers from the IBM PC-DOS disks, which should have come with my 2nd hand TP, and feel that I am entitled to them, because the DOS license (I contend) comes with my TP, not as a separate package. My question may not have been straightforward, but it was addressed to the mailing list and was not an attempt to point you as any kind of software pirate. The answer will tell me whether I can order cheap replacement disks or must buy a whole DOS package. > I posted for help on this list, believing that it would be less > tramatic than trying to explain the above story and get support from > IBM. While I really like my thinkpad, I find their support very > tiresome and irritating EVEN when you have all your paperwork in order. I guess you couldn't undelete your files with Norton Utilities. Regards, Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the ^^ PLEASE NOTE CHANGE ^^ world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 8 19:43:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA279738198; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:43:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23870; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:41:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:39:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23536; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:39:46 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23519; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:39:43 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (ssh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA08777; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:43:08 -0600 Message-Id: <199610082343.RAA08777@aspen.wwsi.com> To: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Cc: kendall@ultranet.com (Kendall Chenoweth), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: DOS on DISK In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 08 Oct 1996 19:24:27 EDT." <199610082324.TAA17519@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 17:43:08 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Licensing ios usually for one computer at a time This means that the software license can either follow the computer or the person, under the discretion of the person. ssh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 8 19:50:00 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA281158598; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:49:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24889; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:48:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:45:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24320; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:45:48 -0400 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24309; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:45:45 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu (yu1.yu.edu [129.98.200.100]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA21670; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:45:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA44817; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:44:23 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:44:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinof To: Dave Ahn Cc: Kendall Chenoweth , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: DOS on DISK In-Reply-To: <199610082324.TAA17519@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu If people are interested in getting the Dos disks you might want to consider the Stream preload CD's. I know IBM has them for the 755CD, CE and CSE, and presumably the higher models as well. It contains all the preloaded software that comes on those machines, and a diskette factory to make disks for PC DOS 6.3, Windows 3.1, and OS2 Warp 3. The CD is just one big zipped file and the installation program that it comes with will wipe your current hard drive, BUT you can using Pkunzip just unzip the sections you want by yourself. A bit clumsy but it works just fine. I got mine a few weeks ago for $40 from IBM. On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Dave Ahn wrote: > I was questioning the "DOS 6.30 and software" part, not the HD itself. > If you did not get a written license for DOS 6.30, you may be violating > the law. I am in a similar position where I need some drivers > from the IBM PC-DOS disks, which should have come with my 2nd hand > TP, and feel that I am entitled to them, because the DOS license > (I contend) comes with my TP, not as a separate package. My question > may not have been straightforward, but it was addressed to the > mailing list and was not an attempt to point you as any kind of > software pirate. The answer will tell me whether I can order > cheap replacement disks or must buy a whole DOS package. > > > I posted for help on this list, believing that it would be less > > tramatic than trying to explain the above story and get support from > > IBM. While I really like my thinkpad, I find their support very > > tiresome and irritating EVEN when you have all your paperwork in order. > > I guess you couldn't undelete your files with Norton Utilities. > > Regards, > Dave. > > > -- > Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the > ^^ PLEASE NOTE CHANGE ^^ world rejoiced. Try to live your life > Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, > Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 8 20:36:36 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA289111395; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:36:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28254; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:31:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:28:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27960; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:28:31 -0400 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27952; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:28:26 -0400 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id UAA20934; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:31:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:31:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Christian Carey To: Joshua Hosseinof Cc: Dave Ahn , Kendall Chenoweth , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: DOS on DISK In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tuesday, 8th October 1996, Joshua Hosseinof wrote: > If people are interested in getting the Dos disks you might want to > consider the Stream preload CD's. I know IBM has them for the 755CD, CE > and CSE, and presumably the higher models as well. Are the preload CDs only available for the ThinkPad models with built-in CDROM drives? I have a 701C and an external PC-Card CDROM drive, and I shouldn't mind getting one if they're available for the 701C. > I got mine a few weeks ago for $40 from IBM. Do you have the part number available for that? Or alternatively, is a description of it to be found somewhere on ibm.com? > On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Dave Ahn wrote: > > > If you did not get a written license for DOS 6.30, you may be violating > > the law. I am in a similar position where I need some drivers > > from the IBM PC-DOS disks, which should have come with my 2nd hand > > TP, and feel that I am entitled to them, because the DOS license > > (I contend) comes with my TP, not as a separate package. My question > > may not have been straightforward, but it was addressed to the > > mailing list and was not an attempt to point you as any kind of > > software pirate. The answer will tell me whether I can order > > cheap replacement disks or must buy a whole DOS package. The IBM repair facility reinstalled the pre-loaded software on a friend's CD-less ThinkPad (upon his written request while getting something else repaired), so at least from their perspective the "licenses" for the OS and apps are inherently in the ThinkPad...an "in portu" theory, I suppose. Christian. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 9 10:31:55 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA117521512; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:31:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02785; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:27:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:18:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01883; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:18:06 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01867; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:18:03 -0400 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-f-37.usc.edu [128.125.223.109]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id HAA27067; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 07:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961009141826.01045f80@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 07:18:26 -0700 To: Alexander Man From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Yep, I'm a new ThinkPad owner! Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 09:17 PM 10/7/96 +0100, Alexander Man wrote: >I think the battery is not in very good shape. It lasts for just over >one hour before it starts beeping like hell! > >Silly question 1... what is the operating period of the 750Cs with a >new battery? About 2 1/2 hours, assuming you're using it the whole time (as opposed to regular & periodic suspending--which to me, doesn't count in the slightest as "use"). >Silly question 2... is the battery that expensive? I've been quoted >between 150-190 UK pounds for one??!!!!! That is pretty bad (based on a rough calc, that's about $225-$300 US, right?). Maybe its the fact that you're in the UK (lots of things sold internationally cost more--don't know exactly why). It seems they can be had for roughly $100 US here. (Though I paid in the neighborhood of $225 for the Lithium-Ion battery that goes in my 560). ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 9 12:57:54 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA141620271; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 12:57:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15718; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 12:56:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Oct 1996 12:52:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15327; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 12:52:12 -0400 Received: from bnr.ca (x400gate.nortel.ca [192.58.194.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15121; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 12:49:24 -0400 X400-Received: by mta bnr.ca in /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 11:54:54 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:37:19 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:35:00 -0400 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:35:00 -0400 X400-Originator: /dd.id=1073097/g=daniel/i=ds/s=hammett/@bnr.ca X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/;bcars520.b.745:09.09.96.14.37.19] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: TP750 Memory ... From: "daniel (d.s.) hammett" Sender: "daniel (d.s.) hammett" Message-Id: <"21752 Wed Oct 9 10:37:39 1996"@bnr.ca> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP750 Memory Upgrades Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi Folks, I have been following ThinkPad related press for some time now, and think I have seen adverts that suggest that a TP750 (mono) can be upgraded to 40MB RAM. I was led to believe that the maximum possible memory for this unit was 20MB. Has anyone bought one of these upgrades (available from either Portable Enhancements or Corporate Upgrades) and tried it out, or is there a definitive answer about how much RAM you can put in a TP750? I would be very grateful for any assistance. BTW, if you have a 750 and want good DOS sound support, by the IBM 3D PCMCIA sound card. I got one recently and have been dead impressed. Oh well, just my opinions. Regards Dan Hammett. *---------------------------------------------------------------* | Dan Hammett - TN-16X Customer Support Engineer | *---------------------------------------------------------------* | NORTEL Technology, | | | Doagh Road, | Tel: +44 (0) 1232 363525 | | Newtownabbey | ESN: 6 751 3525 | | Co. Antrim, BT36 6XA | Email: dhammett@nortel.ca | | Northern Ireland | | *---------------------------------------------------------------* | Opinions expressed in this email are mine, not my employer's | *---------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 9 13:33:13 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA146272391; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:33:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18417; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:29:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:27:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18214; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:27:03 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18199; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:26:58 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (ssh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA11076 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 11:30:41 -0600 Message-Id: <199610091730.LAA11076@aspen.wwsi.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Linux Web pages Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 11:30:41 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Please forgive me for being remiss in reporting the availability of the Thinkpad Linux Web Resource pages. You will find them linked off our home page, or directly at: http://www.wwsi.com/resources.html Please take advantage of these! Let's make them a real asset for all the folks who want to get Linux working on their Thinkpad.... Cheers, ssh -- Steve Hultquist, Founder Engineering the future Worldwide Solutions, Inc. ...with you Boulder, Colorado, USA 303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 9 13:38:30 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA146852708; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:38:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19263; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:36:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:34:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18966; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:34:40 -0400 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18946; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:34:31 -0400 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id NAA13664; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:37:27 -0400 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:37:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Christian Carey To: "daniel (d.s.) hammett" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP750 Memory Upgrades In-Reply-To: <"21752 Wed Oct 9 10:37:39 1996"@bnr.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wednesday, 9th October 1996, daniel (d.s.) hammett wrote: > I have been following ThinkPad related press for some time now, and > think I have seen adverts that suggest that a TP750 (mono) can be > upgraded to 40MB RAM. > > I was led to believe that the maximum possible memory for this unit > was 20MB. Has anyone bought one of these upgrades (available from > either Portable Enhancements or Corporate Upgrades) and tried it > out, or is there a definitive answer about how much RAM you can put > in a TP750? You can ask Portable Enhancements yourself by e-mailing to them at pepsales@portables.com or visit their Web site at http://www.portables.com/pep/ Similarly, Corporate Upgrades is reachable at http://www.ns.net/upgradesinc/ and the e-mail for their Director of Sales is gskeim@upgradesinc.com Regards, Christian. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 9 14:27:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA155845620; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:27:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23775; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:24:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:20:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23290; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:20:24 -0400 Received: from lotus.lotus.com (lotus.com [192.233.136.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23276; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:20:16 -0400 Received: from internet1.lotus.com by lotus.lotus.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA16278; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:15:53 -0400 Received: by internet1.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA17433; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:12:17 -0400 Message-Id: <9610091812.AA17433@internet1.lotus.com> Received: by Lotus (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V.03 Beta) id 1440E6100B010CA8852563BE0064303B; Wed, 9 Oct 96 14:12:14 EDT To: Jorge Mariano Cc: Thinkpad From: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus Date: 9 Oct 96 14:15:03 EDT Subject: Re: Merlin vs TP760ED vs Full screen 800x600 ??? anyone ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu You need to get the latest driver !!!! ( From the same folks you got Merlin from !!!!) JO1MA @ smtp.3-SOFT.com (Jorge Mariano) 10-06-96 07:29 PM To: thinkpad @ cs.utk.edu @ INTERNET cc: (bcc: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus) Subject: Merlin vs TP760ED vs Full screen 800x600 ??? anyone ? Hi , As anyone come up with a solution to use merlin in 800x600x ? ? ? with a TP760ED ? I can only get 640x480x16 ? Comments, Hints ? ? Jorge From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 9 14:43:56 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA159656630; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:43:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25187; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:41:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:38:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24852; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:38:49 -0400 Received: from doblegate.doble.com (doblegate.doble.com [204.215.186.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24846; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:38:43 -0400 From: Received: from ccMail by doblegate.doble.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 25bf01a0; Wed, 9 Oct 96 14:34:02 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:33:52 -0400 Message-Id: <25bf01a0@doblegate.doble.com> Subject: Re: Merlin and Thinkpads To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, When Merlin is installed only some generic drivers are used. IBM included a Device Driver CD that is browsed by using a Web Browser (They also have a on-line version on one of the sites). If you look under the "SYSTEMS" menu item you will see a entry for IBM. Select that and you get a list of Aptivas, Thinkpads, etc. Selecting your system will enable you to get the various driver sets (video, sound, etc.) needed. Follow the instructions. 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 9 16:38:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA216343513; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:38:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05463; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:33:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:27:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04892; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:27:38 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04885; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:27:33 -0400 Received: from bad_frog.cae.wisc.edu (d012013.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.12.13]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id PAA16273 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 15:27:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610092027.PAA16273@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 15:27:42 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Toshiba 2.1G in 755 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I received word from the folks at Micro Sense that the Toshiba 2.1G drive (MK2101MAN) basically can work in a ThinkPad 755 (I have a 755CD). However, it sounds like hibernation and Password would not work. Is that the experience people have had with this upgrade? Does suspend still work OK with this drive? I use hibernation and would hate to lose it, but I can see how the BIOS and software might have a hard time finding the hibernate area on a volume of this size. I hope and expect that suspend will work. Interestingly enough, the fellow at Micro Sense said that IBM's 17mm 2.1G drive DOESN'T work in IBM TP 755's even though the Toshiba does. Is that the experience out there? Has anyone tried to get the IBM drive (DCRA-22160) to work in a 755? Thanks Mike Redmond Director, CAE UW-Madison From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 9 16:42:13 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA216803727; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:42:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06138; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:38:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:37:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05983; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:37:34 -0400 Received: from igw3.watson.ibm.com ([129.34.139.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05965; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:37:28 -0400 Received: from mailhub1.watson.ibm.com (mailhub1.watson.ibm.com [9.2.249.31]) by igw3.watson.ibm.com (8.7.6/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA18016 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:37:29 -0400 Received: from lusitania.watson.ibm.com (lusitania.watson.ibm.com [9.2.11.96]) by mailhub1.watson.ibm.com (8.7.1/10-03-96) with SMTP id QAA123812 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:37:25 -0400 Received: from localhost by lusitania.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/6/25/96) id AA30862; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:37:24 -0400 Message-Id: <9610092037.AA30862@lusitania.watson.ibm.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Bigger drive for TP850/820? Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 16:37:24 -0400 From: Chet Murthy Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu [Perhaps I've asked this before in this forum -- if so, please forgive me -- I can't seem to find the answer *anywhere*.] Are there any drives (either IBM or third-party) for the TP820/TP850, which are bigger than 1.2GB? Thanks, --chet-- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 9 18:13:19 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA230789198; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 18:13:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12572; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 18:11:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Oct 1996 18:02:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11834; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 18:02:33 -0400 Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com ([198.73.240.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11815; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 18:02:18 -0400 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA13008; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 18:01:39 -0400 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199610092201.SAA13008@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: Toshiba 2.1G in 755 To: redmond@engr.wisc.edu (Michael Redmond) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 18:01:38 -0400 (EDT) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199610092027.PAA16273@cae.wisc.edu> from "Michael Redmond" at Oct 9, 96 03:27:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Interestingly enough, the fellow at Micro Sense said that IBM's 17mm 2.1G > drive DOESN'T work in IBM TP 755's even though the Toshiba does. Is that the > experience out there? Has anyone tried to get the IBM drive (DCRA-22160) to > work in a 755? It has been my experience that various IBM drive models have different settings for the IDE master vs. slave jumper settings. I recently picked up an DSOA-21080 for my 760C which has this problem relative to to the stock 720Mb drive. What happens seems to be this: the Thinkpad (or docking station) in which the drive is installed is responsible for setting the master vs. slave ID of the drive. On Thinkpad drives, shorting the appropriate pin pair makes the drive a master. Unfortunately, on some of the IBM drives (including the DSOA-20180), it's the *absence* of the jumper that makes the unit a master -- the presence of the jumper makes the drive a slave. Now, what I've been doing so far is just using a bit of tape on the caddy connector to prevent the ThinkPad from erroneously jumpering the device to be a slave. Of course, this won't work if the drive is supposed to be a slave (presumably whenever the drive is in a docking station?) but it works for me right now, anyway. -- Tim Tyhurst tim@excelsior.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 9 19:16:27 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA244992986; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:16:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16600; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:14:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:11:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16410; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:11:17 -0400 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16401; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:11:11 -0400 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id TAA05780; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:12:27 -0400 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:12:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: "daniel (d.s.) hammett" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP750 Memory Upgrades In-Reply-To: <"21752 Wed Oct 9 10:37:39 1996"@bnr.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wed, 9 Oct 1996, daniel (d.s.) hammett wrote: > I have been following ThinkPad related press for some time now, and > think I have seen adverts that suggest that a TP750 (mono) can be > upgraded to 40MB RAM. I'm pretty sure it's 36MB (4MB + 32MB card). IBM doesn't make a 32MB card, but there's at least one company that does. Name starts with A, "thinkpad approved." I think Kingston makes one too. -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 9 19:26:55 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA247653615; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:26:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17370; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:24:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:23:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17255; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:23:34 -0400 Received: from krakatoa.mpce.mq.edu.au (krakatoa.mpce.mq.edu.au [137.111.240.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17246; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:23:30 -0400 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by krakatoa.mpce.mq.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA29826 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:23:19 +1000 From: Kevin CHEONG Message-Id: <199610092323.JAA29826@krakatoa.mpce.mq.edu.au> Subject: Re: TP750 Memory Upgrades (fwd) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:23:18 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu `Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:12:26 -0400 (EDT) `From: "John H. Kim" `To: "daniel (d.s.) hammett" `Subject: Re: TP750 Memory Upgrades ` `I'm pretty sure it's 36MB (4MB + 32MB card). IBM doesn't make a 32MB `card, but there's at least one company that does. Name starts with A, `"thinkpad approved." I think Kingston makes one too. So all 750 + 360 machines can have at most (4 + X) Mb of RAM if someone makes a "TP approved" X Mb card. Hmm... I've been in the dark for way too long. Anyone can quote me prices for 32Mb cards + availability? cheers .kevin cheong From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 9 19:35:32 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA249554131; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:35:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18083; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:33:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:32:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17945; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:32:11 -0400 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17911; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:31:56 -0400 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA09492; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johnp (tesu-pc2.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA02911 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:31:44 -0700 From: "John Pham" Message-Id: <961009164006.ZM3454@johnp> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 16:40:03 -0700 In-Reply-To: "John H. Kim" "Re: TP750 Memory Upgrades" (Oct 9, 7:12pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0.1 (4.0.1 Apr 9 1996) To: "John H. Kim" , "daniel (d.s.) hammett" Subject: Re: TP750 Memory Upgrades Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu You might want to check with Ariston Tech. @714-846-7676 or www.ariston.com. John On Oct 9, 7:12pm, John H. Kim wrote: > Subject: Re: TP750 Memory Upgrades > On Wed, 9 Oct 1996, daniel (d.s.) hammett wrote: > > > I have been following ThinkPad related press for some time now, and > > think I have seen adverts that suggest that a TP750 (mono) can be > > upgraded to 40MB RAM. > > I'm pretty sure it's 36MB (4MB + 32MB card). IBM doesn't make a 32MB > card, but there's at least one company that does. Name starts with A, > "thinkpad approved." I think Kingston makes one too. > -- > John H. Kim > jokim@mit.edu > >-- End of excerpt from John H. Kim From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 9 19:38:06 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA249994285; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:38:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18457; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:36:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:35:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18305; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:35:51 -0400 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18292; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:35:48 -0400 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id TAA05874; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:36:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:36:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: Kevin CHEONG Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP750 Memory Upgrades (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199610092323.JAA29826@krakatoa.mpce.mq.edu.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Kevin CHEONG wrote: > `From: "John H. Kim" > ` > `I'm pretty sure it's 36MB (4MB + 32MB card). IBM doesn't make a 32MB > `card, but there's at least one company that does. Name starts with A, > `"thinkpad approved." I think Kingston makes one too. "Thinkpad Proven," if anyone is watching. > Anyone can quote me prices for 32Mb cards + availability? http://warrior.com/tpp/tpp00c.html -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 9 21:14:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA267100044; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:14:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23527; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:08:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:04:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23250; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:04:37 -0400 Received: from vtaix.cc.vt.edu (adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu [198.82.161.244]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23235; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:04:29 -0400 Received: (from adamf@localhost) by vtaix.cc.vt.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA14062 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:04:12 -0400 From: Adam Finkelstein Message-Id: <199610100104.VAA14062@vtaix.cc.vt.edu> Subject: pcmcia modem models: feedback please To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:04:12 +22324924 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello. I've found two used pcmcia modems. One is an ATT 28.8 "Keep in Touch" the other is a Megahertz XJ2288. The latter is less expensive. Has anyone any comments concerning these modems and 755 machines? I really appreciate it, thanks, Adam -- _________________ Adam Finkelstein adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 9 21:33:07 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA272101186; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:33:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24701; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:27:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:25:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24471; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:25:47 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA24445; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:25:43 -0400 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-d-57.usc.edu [128.125.222.129]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id SAA26894; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 18:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961010012612.010a125c@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 18:26:12 -0700 To: Adam Finkelstein From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: pcmcia modem models: feedback please Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 09:04 PM 10/9/96 +22324924, Adam Finkelstein wrote: >Hello. >I've found two used pcmcia modems. One is an ATT 28.8 "Keep in Touch" >the other is a Megahertz XJ2288. The latter is less expensive. Has anyone >any comments concerning these modems and 755 machines? In the early days of the list, it seems the AT&T modem was a very big item (lots of people had it, lots were happy with it). Later on, lots of people reported good things about the Megahertz modem too. I have a Megahertz XJ2288 that I have been very happy with and would highly recommend (specifically because, thanks to the X-Jack, you don't need a funny little special cable to hook up to your phone line). However, I can't imagine you're being unhappy with the AT&T. Basically, get whichever one you want--though I own the Megahertz, I hold them in equal esteem (except for the fact of the XJack, which to me is very important and why I got it). ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 9 22:56:30 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA292686189; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:56:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29270; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:50:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:46:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29068; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:46:25 -0400 Received: from bob.tri-lakes.net ([207.3.81.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29061; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:46:15 -0400 Received: from [207.3.81.37] by bob.tri-lakes.net (NTMail 3.02.07) with ESMTP id za014845 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:46:42 -0500 From: "JC Zalog" To: Subject: TP 755 Memory for sale Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:40:15 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <02464274202873@tri-lakes.net> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu For Sale: IBM Thinkpad DIMM Memory for 755 Series. 1 - 84G2151 DIMM Adapter 2 - 84G2152 4MB SO DIMM Total 8MB Memory. Price $100 Email: zalo9@tri-lakes.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 07:09:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA088705762; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 07:09:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA01233; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 07:08:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 07:02:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00928; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 07:02:36 -0400 Received: from netvigator.com (imsp004.netvigator.com [205.252.144.228]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00922; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 07:02:23 -0400 Received: from Defiant.eq.gs.com by netvigator.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA11724; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 18:59:00 +0800 Message-Id: <199610101059.SAA11724@netvigator.com> From: "Marshall Lai" To: "Adam Finkelstein" , "Randy Whittle" Cc: Subject: Re: pcmcia modem models: XJack Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 18:30:18 +0900 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Don't know about ATT 28.8 but tried out Magahertz XJ2288 and returned it. The card is excellent in terms of ease of installation and throughput. My problem lies with the XJack: The phone cable connector protrudes a little too much to bend my SCSI cable connector......... ---------------------- Marshall Lai Equity Derivatives Research Goldman Sachs Asia Email: Marshall.Lai@gs.com ---------- > From: Randy Whittle > To: Adam Finkelstein > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: pcmcia modem models: feedback please > Date: Thursday, October 10, 1996 10:26 AM > > At 09:04 PM 10/9/96 +22324924, Adam Finkelstein wrote: > >Hello. > >I've found two used pcmcia modems. One is an ATT 28.8 "Keep in Touch" > >the other is a Megahertz XJ2288. The latter is less expensive. Has anyone > >any comments concerning these modems and 755 machines? > > In the early days of the list, it seems the AT&T modem was a very > big item (lots of people had it, lots were happy with it). Later on, lots > of people reported good things about the Megahertz modem too. > > I have a Megahertz XJ2288 that I have been very happy with and would > highly recommend (specifically because, thanks to the X-Jack, you don't need > a funny little special cable to hook up to your phone line). However, I > can't imagine you're being unhappy with the AT&T. > > Basically, get whichever one you want--though I own the Megahertz, I > hold them in equal esteem (except for the fact of the XJack, which to me is > very important and why I got it). > > ------- > Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net > USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle > "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who > is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 08:09:54 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA093809393; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:09:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04189; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:08:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:06:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03964; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:05:58 -0400 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03950; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:05:54 -0400 From: Received: from sudial0201-071.syr.edu by syr.edu (8.7.5/CNS) id IAA11686; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:07:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199610101207.IAA11686@syr.edu> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:06:15 +4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Intro Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi Friends New to the list. Name is Harry, and I use a Thinkpad 701C with 8MB/360MB, a Megahertz XJ2288 PCMCIA modem, and an Adaptec SlimSCSI APA1460A PCMCIA card attached to an external HD system and CD-ROM. I'm a doctoral student in Biology at Syracuse University, and the Thinkpad is my primary research tool. We had a major problem with the machine about 2 weeks ago when we hooked up a Logitech EZ-Scan handheld scanner to the Thinkpad and our old APA348 SCSI host adapter. Apparently, the Logitech parallel-port "black box" sent power into the host adapter and fried it. It took the purchase & installation of the APA1460A to demonstrate that the Scanner fried the old APA348, but not before we lost the c:\windows directory and several others (like FaxWorks) during a re-install. Logitech denies that the EZ-Scan power unit is responsible, but that is a totally expected response. Anyway, I do love the 701C, and until 2 weeks ago, I've never had any kind of problem with it. I'm looking for copies of FaxWorks and any other Thinkpad-bundled software, since we lost all of the original stuff in the crash. Does IBM replace them for registered users? Thanks Harry Syracuse, NY From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 08:10:15 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA093869414; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:10:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04193; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:08:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:05:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03928; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:05:46 -0400 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03915; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:05:44 -0400 From: Received: from sudial0201-071.syr.edu by syr.edu (8.7.5/CNS) id IAA11677; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:07:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199610101207.IAA11677@syr.edu> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:06:15 +4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: WTB: 701C Memory Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi Looking for 8 or 16MB memory module for the IBM TP701C. Thx Harry From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 08:15:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA094089698; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:14:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04697; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:12:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:11:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04538; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:11:40 -0400 Received: from venus.teamquest.com (venus.teamquest.com [199.120.249.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04521; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:11:35 -0400 From: Received: from SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com (smtpgtwy.teamquest.com [199.120.249.99]) by venus.teamquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.11) with SMTP id MAA25635; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:15:30 GMT Received: from cc:Mail by SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com id AA844956928; Thu, 10 Oct 96 07:13:39 CST Date: Thu, 10 Oct 96 07:13:39 CST Encoding: 21 Text Message-Id: <9609108449.AA844956928@SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Adam Finkelstein Subject: Re: pcmcia modem models: feedback please Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Have purchased about 8 of the XJ2288 pcmcia modems and been very satisfied with them. No problems at all yet (knock knock). Using them in 755cd's and 760cd's and 760eld. With Win 95 and 3.1. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: pcmcia modem models: feedback please Author: Adam Finkelstein at Gateway Date: 10/9/96 8:17 PM Hello. I've found two used pcmcia modems. One is an ATT 28.8 "Keep in Touch" the other is a Megahertz XJ2288. The latter is less expensive. Has anyone any comments concerning these modems and 755 machines? I really appreciate it, thanks, Adam -- _________________ Adam Finkelstein adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 08:23:46 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA095660225; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:23:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05594; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:22:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:19:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05163; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:19:36 -0400 Received: from stone.tic.ch ([193.193.144.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05152; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:19:21 -0400 Received: from ar-laptop.tic.ch (ar-laptop.tic.ch [193.193.146.112]) by stone.tic.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA29326; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:20:40 +0200 (MDT) Received: by ar-laptop.tic.ch with Microsoft Mail id <01BBB6B5.9B0432A0@ar-laptop.tic.ch>; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:16:18 +-100 Message-Id: <01BBB6B5.9B0432A0@ar-laptop.tic.ch> From: Andrew Richards To: "'hewhite@mailbox.syr.edu'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: 701C Memory Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:16:11 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu FYI: I just bought a 16Mb module for 105 pounds sterling - about $150 from Memory Experts International Ltd., tel +44 181 332 2666 - so far it seems to work perfectly (the machine's certainly faster). I know they're affiliated to CANRAM in Canada, who have prices about 10% cheaper - and better for you if you're in the states. I don't have their number to hand, but I think I found it when I searched for 'canram' in Alta Vista. They don't have a web site unfortunately, but there's a telephone number there on the web somewhere. cheers, Andrew ---------- From: hewhite@mailbox.syr.edu[SMTP:hewhite@mailbox.syr.edu] Sent: Donnerstag, 10. Oktober 1996 09:06 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: WTB: 701C Memory Hi Looking for 8 or 16MB memory module for the IBM TP701C. Thx Harry From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 08:24:46 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA095760285; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:24:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05592; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:22:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:20:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05319; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:20:27 -0400 Received: from enteract.com (root@[206.54.252.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05297; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:20:23 -0400 Received: from isaiah-19.d.enteract.com (isaiah-19.d.enteract.com [206.54.253.98]) by enteract.com (8.8.Beta.6/8.7.6) with SMTP id HAA04353; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 07:20:05 -0500 (CDT) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: WTB: 701C Memory Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:20:39 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <325de867.29107366@smtp.enteract.com> References: <199610101207.IAA11677@syr.edu> In-Reply-To: <199610101207.IAA11677@syr.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Go to www.thechipmerchant.com for their number. I've heard o 16MB = modules for less than $150. I expect RAM prices for the 701 to go up again soon,= so everyone should buy now. (Everyone's discounting the RAM since the sysem was discontinued; when stock goes down and it's rarer, folks on the used market are gonna get = gouged, imo.) epbrown On Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:06:15 +4, you wrote: "Hi "Looking for 8 or 16MB memory module for the IBM TP701C. "Thx "Harry " epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 09:01:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA099032463; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:01:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08748; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:56:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:54:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08383; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:54:18 -0400 Received: from is.nyu.edu (root@IS.NYU.EDU [128.122.253.134]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08373; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:54:11 -0400 Received: from DIAL3-1-ASYNC-14.DIAL.NET.NYU.EDU by is.nyu.edu; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/23Sep94-1121PM) id AA12956; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:54:05 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0b35.32.19961010085358.009261e0@is.nyu.edu> X-Sender: mdk1143@is.nyu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b35 (32) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:54:05 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu From: Michael Klenner Subject: Re: pcmcia modem models: feedback please Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >Subject: pcmcia modem models: feedback please >Author: Adam Finkelstein at Gateway >Date: 10/9/96 8:17 PM > > >Hello. >I've found two used pcmcia modems. One is an ATT 28.8 "Keep in Touch" >the other is a Megahertz XJ2288. The latter is less expensive. Has anyone >any comments concerning these modems and 755 machines? Adam, I've owned an XJ2288 unit in the past, and was quite satisfied with its performance ans support. Megahertz regularly releases firmware files which improve connecvtivity and compatability as technology changes. Firmware is user installable via provided FLASH software available via BBS an Internet. I sold this unit when I upgraded to from a 360ce to a 755cx because I thought the onboard MWave circuitry would suffice. On reflection I would have kept the PC Card had I known that the MWave stuff couldn't handle v.34 and Sound simultaneously on any kind of usable basis. Fortunatley I was lucky enough to be selected as a beta tester for the Megahertz/USRobotics newest modem which is set for release soon. It is available in both X-Jack and Dongle configurations and feature v.34+ (33.6 BPS), Voice Features, and Cellular Connectivity. Having used it extensively in my 755cx and 760CD, I can say that this is yet another quality Megahertz product and may well be worth waiting for. Take care, -Michael --- Michael Klenner East: klennerm@is.nyu.edu New York University West: mklenner@pacificnet.net Tisch School of the Arts http://pages.nyu.edu/~mdk1143 Institute of Film & Television talk: michael@24frames.com --- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 09:07:25 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA099532844; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:07:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09492; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:04:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:02:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09231; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:02:08 -0400 Received: from enteract.com (root@enteract.com [206.54.252.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09220; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:01:57 -0400 Received: from isaiah-19.d.enteract.com (isaiah-19.d.enteract.com [206.54.253.98]) by enteract.com (8.8.Beta.6/8.7.6) with SMTP id IAA06246; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:00:06 -0500 (CDT) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Intro Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 13:00:39 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <325ce7e7.28979488@smtp.enteract.com> References: <199610101207.IAA11686@syr.edu> In-Reply-To: <199610101207.IAA11686@syr.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Yes, just about everything is available in the "mobiles" directory for = the 701, ftp.ibm.pc.com. epbrown On Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:06:15 +4, you wrote: "Hi Friends "New to the list. Name is Harry, and I use a Thinkpad 701C with "8MB/360MB, a Megahertz XJ2288 PCMCIA modem, and an Adaptec "SlimSCSI APA1460A PCMCIA card attached to an external HD system and=20 "CD-ROM. "I'm a doctoral student in Biology at Syracuse University, and the=20 "Thinkpad is my primary research tool.=20 "We had a major problem with the machine about 2 weeks ago when we=20 "hooked up a Logitech EZ-Scan handheld scanner to the Thinkpad and our=20 "old APA348 SCSI host adapter. Apparently, the Logitech parallel-port=20 ""black box" sent power into the host adapter and fried it. It took=20 "the purchase & installation of the APA1460A to demonstrate that the=20 "Scanner fried the old APA348, but not before we lost the c:\windows "directory and several others (like FaxWorks) during a re-install. " "Logitech denies that the EZ-Scan power unit is responsible, but that=20 "is a totally expected response.=20 " "Anyway, I do love the 701C, and until 2 weeks ago, I've never had any=20 "kind of problem with it. I'm looking for copies of FaxWorks and any=20 "other Thinkpad-bundled software, since we lost all of the original=20 "stuff in the crash. Does IBM replace them for registered users? " "Thanks "Harry "Syracuse, NY "=20 " epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 09:41:23 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA103814882; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:41:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13291; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:37:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:33:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12561; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:33:34 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12553; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:33:30 -0400 Received: from bad_frog.cae.wisc.edu (d012013.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.12.13]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id IAA26262; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:31:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610101331.IAA26262@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:31:42 -0500 To: "John H. Kim" , "daniel (d.s.) hammett" From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: TP750 Memory Upgrades Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Admor at 800-213-2231 makes a 32M memory card for the 755's, so they probably make it for the 750's. I talked to Mike Kelly at Ext 126. Prices seem pretty good, though I haven't yet bought the product (hopefully this week some time). Thanks Mike Redmond ------------ At 07:12 PM 10/9/96 -0400, John H. Kim wrote: >On Wed, 9 Oct 1996, daniel (d.s.) hammett wrote: > >> I have been following ThinkPad related press for some time now, and >> think I have seen adverts that suggest that a TP750 (mono) can be >> upgraded to 40MB RAM. > >I'm pretty sure it's 36MB (4MB + 32MB card). IBM doesn't make a 32MB >card, but there's at least one company that does. Name starts with A, >"thinkpad approved." I think Kingston makes one too. >-- >John H. Kim >jokim@mit.edu > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 10:13:15 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA109556794; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:13:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16609; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:08:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:07:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16433; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:07:34 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16426; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:07:31 -0400 Received: from bad_frog.cae.wisc.edu (d012013.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.12.13]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id JAA28512; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:07:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610101407.JAA28512@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:07:37 -0500 To: Tim Tyhurst From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: Toshiba 2.1G in 755 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 06:01 PM 10/9/96 -0400, Tim Tyhurst wrote: ... >What happens seems to be this: the Thinkpad (or docking station) in which >the drive is installed is responsible for setting the master vs. slave >ID of the drive. On Thinkpad drives, shorting the appropriate pin pair >makes the drive a master. Unfortunately, on some of the IBM drives >(including the DSOA-20180), it's the *absence* of the jumper that makes >the unit a master -- the presence of the jumper makes the drive a slave. > >Now, what I've been doing so far is just using a bit of tape on >the caddy connector to prevent the ThinkPad from erroneously >jumpering the device to be a slave. Of course, this won't work >if the drive is supposed to be a slave (presumably whenever the >drive is in a docking station?) but it works for me right now, anyway. > >-- >Tim Tyhurst tim@excelsior.com > > I want to clarify how you made this work... I checked on the IBM web site for the DCRA22160 drive info (http://eagle.almaden.ibm.com/storage/techsup/hddtech/dcra/dcrajum.htm) and found that, depending on the jumpers of pins IBM identifies as 47, 48, 49 and 50 (but what I have seen as pins 1, 2, 3 and 4 on another drive), the 22160 can be either master, slave, or set by cable connect through Pin 28. It seems that, according to what you have done, you want NO CONNECTIONS between pins 48 and 50 (or 2 and 4 by my reckoning) to make the drive a Master. If those pins are not independently jumperable, but instead are brought out through the caddy cable, they have to be controlled at the caddy connection in the laptop bay. If I read your message right, the caddy connections inside the notebook are preset to jumper pins 48 to 50 on the drive because of some weirdness of IBM's making (incompatible use of those pins from old drives to new drives). You must have traced the caddy cable to find the correspondence between drive pins 48 and 50 to the corresponding caddy pins (?? and ?? -- can you tell us which pins these are?). Then you put tape on those caddy pins to disable the "motherboard" jumper? If that is right, then there is a good chance that the 22160 could be made to work in a 755, which would be nice (at least for me). If someone wanted to make a little money, they could put together or modify one of the aftermarket caddy's to include the option of jumpering those pins independent of the caddy connection. If you have this in the next week for about $60, let me know...though I really prefer to use the IBM caddy to retain the locking functions. Thanks Mike Redmond From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 10:41:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA115108493; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:41:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20070; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:38:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:33:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19517; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:33:53 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19507; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:33:48 -0400 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-f-59.usc.edu [128.125.223.131]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id HAA00973; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 07:32:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961010143330.010ce4c0@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 07:33:30 -0700 To: "Marshall Lai" From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: pcmcia modem models: XJack Cc: "Adam Finkelstein" , Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 06:30 PM 10/10/96 +0900, Marshall Lai wrote: >Don't know about ATT 28.8 but tried out Magahertz XJ2288 and returned it. >The card is excellent in terms of ease of installation and throughput. My >problem lies with the XJack: The phone cable connector protrudes a little >too much to bend my SCSI cable connector......... >---------------------- >Marshall Lai It is quite true that the XJack thingy, when in use, usually interferes with accessing whatever *other* PCMCIA card you have in your machine. If this is an issue for you and you still want the Megahertz, they *do* have a "corded" version without the XJack. For me though, I've come to the conclusion that I never use the modem at the same time I am using my Adaptec SlimSCSI card or my Ethernet card--I may use *those* two at the same time, but never the modem at the same time as either of them. The machine is very "independent" when I use the modem and I have no need for the modem on the occasions I use the Ethernet (to hook up to my desktop) or SCSI (pretty much just to install software via CD-ROM--though when other uses for the SCSI are in play, I really don't need to use the modem at the same time). As an aside, Megahertz also makes a combo card model (Ethernet and XJack), but of course that would still interefere with your SCSI connector. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 10:55:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA117139338; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:55:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21306; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:49:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:46:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20907; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:46:44 -0400 Received: from atlas.corp.mei.com (atlas.mis.mei.com [151.186.47.172]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20892; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:46:34 -0400 Received: from nickdo.mis.mei.com (nickdo.mis.mei.com [151.186.40.237]) by atlas.corp.mei.com (NTMail 3.02.10) with ESMTP id na003211 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:47:14 -0500 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Nick Rushizky" Organization: Marquette Medical Systems To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:47:17 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Cloning Win95/Thinkpads Reply-To: Nick@atlas.mis.mei.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-Id: <14471419600381@corp.mei.com> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a question for the group which might be very interesting.. Someone passed me a program called Ghost, which seems to be very simple, shareware cloning software. It claims that if I take a HD, make an image of it, and copy that image back down to a blank drive, I can throw that drive into new unit, fire it up and have a new working duplicate system. This would save a good bit of time for me, as I make new Thinkpad drives with 95, and all the software, and all the tweaks for the Thinkpad from Ma IBM. Liscense issues aside here (I do have the appropriate for everything); is anyone familiar with this sort of software? Would it work? Nick Rushizky ---> nick@atlas.mis.mei.com Marquette Medical Systems PC Support Help Desk All opinions are my fault only. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 10:57:27 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA117329446; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:57:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21710; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:52:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:50:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21343; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:49:59 -0400 Received: from demeter.leftbank.com (sneaker.net [192.31.227.142]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21327; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:49:50 -0400 Received: (from kenyee@localhost) by demeter.leftbank.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA21035; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:49:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:49:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199610101449.KAA21035@demeter.leftbank.com> From: Ken Yee To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad w/ new 3780i mWave chip? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Anyone hear if one of the thinkpads coming out this month has the 3780 mWave chip? It has roughly twice the horsepower as the 2780 (45MIPS vs. 20MIPS), so it should have enough power for modem+sound at the same time finally... ken From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 10:57:53 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA117369471; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:57:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21772; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:52:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:51:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21565; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:51:17 -0400 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21559; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:51:14 -0400 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for id KAA07882; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:52:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:52:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: pcmcia modem models: XJack In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961010143330.010ce4c0@scf.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Randy Whittle wrote: > At 06:30 PM 10/10/96 +0900, Marshall Lai wrote: > > > >Don't know about ATT 28.8 but tried out Magahertz XJ2288 and returned it. > >The card is excellent in terms of ease of installation and throughput. My > >problem lies with the XJack: The phone cable connector protrudes a little > >too much to bend my SCSI cable connector......... > > If this is an issue for you and you still want the Megahertz, they > *do* have a "corded" version without the XJack. For a while, word was that notebook manufacturers would be adding an RJ-11 jack (but no modem) into the case, and the PCMCIA modem would simply use it in lieu of (or in addition to) providing its own RJ-11 jack. Apparently, it never came to be. *sigh* -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 11:51:12 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA131612670; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:51:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28138; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:43:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:38:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27491; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:37:59 -0400 Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com (dogmead.excelsior.com [198.73.240.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27471; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:37:45 -0400 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA09944; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:37:15 -0400 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199610101537.LAA09944@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: Toshiba 2.1G in 755 To: redmond@engr.wisc.edu (Michael Redmond) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tim@excelsior.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199610101407.JAA28512@cae.wisc.edu> from "Michael Redmond" at Oct 10, 96 09:07:37 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > >the caddy connector to prevent the ThinkPad from erroneously > >jumpering the device to be a slave. Of course, this won't work > >if the drive is supposed to be a slave (presumably whenever the > >drive is in a docking station?) but it works for me right now, anyway. > I checked on the IBM web site for the DCRA22160 drive info > > (http://eagle.almaden.ibm.com/storage/techsup/hddtech/dcra/dcrajum.htm) > > and found that, depending on the jumpers of pins IBM identifies as 47, 48, > 49 and 50 (but what I have seen as pins 1, 2, 3 and 4 on another drive), the > 22160 can be either master, slave, or set by cable connect through Pin 28. Yes, this is where I've been getting my information, too (although I was using the www.storage.ibm.com address). > It seems that, according to what you have done, you want NO CONNECTIONS > between pins 48 and 50 (or 2 and 4 by my reckoning) to make the drive a > Master. If those pins are not independently jumperable, but instead are > brought out through the caddy cable, they have to be controlled at the caddy > connection in the laptop bay. > > If I read your message right, the caddy connections inside the notebook are > preset to jumper pins 48 to 50 on the drive because of some weirdness of > IBM's making (incompatible use of those pins from old drives to new drives). > You must have traced the caddy cable to find the correspondence between > drive pins 48 and 50 to the corresponding caddy pins (?? and ?? -- can you > tell us which pins these are?). Then you put tape on those caddy pins to > disable the "motherboard" jumper? Pretty much, except that I don't want any pins shorted between pins 47, 48, 49 and 50. My theory is that the Thinkpad either short pins 49 and 50 if it wants the drive to be a master, or leaves it open, if it's to be a slave, and that they don't use the CSEL signal on pin 28 feature at all. I have a hunch that the ThinkPad will alter the master/slave settings (again from the drive bay) depending on the drive startup sequence specified in EZSetup, but I haven't confirmed this. Looking into an open drive bay with no drive, pins 47, 48, 49 and 50 are on the extreme right hand side, with 49 and 50 being on the extreme right. I don't know which is 49 or 50, though, since my theory doesn't require this level of detail :-) -- Tim Tyhurst tim@excelsior.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 12:46:07 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA149865967; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:46:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03867; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:37:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:35:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03608; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:35:21 -0400 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03553; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 12:35:00 -0400 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-3 #9830) id <01IAH0TC0K6O9X4TRI@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:34:43 MST Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:27:12 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: TP750 Memory Upgrades In-Reply-To: <199610101331.IAA26262@cae.wisc.edu> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IAH1NRSOLO9X4TRI@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Admor at 800-213-2231 makes a 32M memory card for the 755's, so they > probably make it for the 750's. I talked to Mike Kelly at Ext 126. Prices > seem pretty good, though I haven't yet bought the product (hopefully this > week some time). I bought a 16MB card from them. The first one I received had a parity error problem but they sent a replacement next day air and it works fine. I'd COD'd the first one so I'd call this pretty good service - they never asked for a credit card or whatever and sent the new one before they could've gotten the old one back. Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 13:38:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA157759118; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 13:38:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08436; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 13:24:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 13:19:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07894; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 13:19:16 -0400 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07881; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 13:19:07 -0400 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-3 #9830) id <01IAH0TC0K6O9X4TRI@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:19:01 MST Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:13:46 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: TP750 Memory Upgrades In-Reply-To: <01IAH1NRSOLO9X4TRI@Opus1.COM> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IAH37OR1MU9X4TRI@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <199610101331.IAA26262@cae.wisc.edu> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu One more thing for those buying memory - there are various diagnostic programs for Thinkpads at ftp.pcco.ibm.com - it'd be smart to get the one for your model and run the memory test a few times after adding the new card. This is a more thorough check that what's available by holding F1 when starting the computer - this didn't catch the parity error problem I had anyway. Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 14:18:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA163771519; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:18:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12407; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:14:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:11:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12184; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:11:36 -0400 Received: from ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca (ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.96.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12178; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:11:33 -0400 Received: from ccshst01.cs.uoguelph.ca by ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca with ESMTP (1.40.112.3/16.2) id AA213991086; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:11:26 -0400 Received: by ccshst01 (1.37.109.20/16.2) id AA052601086; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:11:26 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:11:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Liang Zhao X-Sender: lzhao@ccshst01 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Supervisor Passport Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have thinkpad 755CD, I bought this as a used one. People put a supervisor password on it. Is there any way I could decode and take off this password by myself instead of going IBM and pay huge amount$$$$ for that. Lenny From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 14:32:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA165852322; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:32:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13247; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:22:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:19:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12837; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:19:33 -0400 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12827; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:19:28 -0400 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-3 #9830) id <01IAH5369DI89X4UPJ@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:18:56 MST Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:16:15 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: TP750 Memory Upgrades In-Reply-To: <325D395F.50D8@cyberramp.net> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IAH5AZ7A0G9X4UPJ@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <199610101331.IAA26262@cae.wisc.edu> <01IAH37OR1MU9X4TRI@Opus1.COM> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > This sounds like a good idea, but when I try to get to ftp.pcco.ibm.com > I get an error message that says anonomous login is not allowed. How do > I get there? It's ftp.pc.ibm.com - sorry about that!! Then cd /pub/pcco/mobiles and get 0listing.txt for a description of all files in the modiles dir. Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 16:00:15 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA178437614; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:00:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20409; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:43:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:38:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20038; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:38:52 -0400 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20025; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:38:40 -0400 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id PAA26141; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:41:32 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:41:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Christian Carey To: billy@MIX.COM Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP750 Memory Upgrades In-Reply-To: <01IAH5AZ7A0G9X4UPJ@Opus1.COM> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thursday, 10th October 1996, billy@MIX.COM wrote: > > This sounds like a good idea, but when I try to get to ftp.pcco.ibm.com > > I get an error message that says anonomous login is not allowed. How do > > I get there? > > It's ftp.pc.ibm.com - sorry about that!! Then cd /pub/pcco/mobiles > and get 0listing.txt for a description of all files in the modiles dir. I didn't see a /pub/pcco, but I did see a /pub/pccbbs which has a mobiles/0listing.txt in it. Christian. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 16:20:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA180818806; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:20:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22159; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:07:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:06:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22021; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:06:40 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22015; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:06:35 -0400 Received: from bad_frog.cae.wisc.edu (d012013.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.12.13]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id PAA05342; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:06:07 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610102006.PAA05342@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:06:30 -0500 To: Tim Tyhurst From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: IBM 2.1G in 755 (was: Toshiba 2.1G in 755) Cc: tim@excelsior.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 11:37 AM 10/10/96 -0400, Tim Tyhurst wrote: >> >the caddy connector to prevent the ThinkPad from erroneously >> >jumpering the device to be a slave. Of course, this won't work >> >if the drive is supposed to be a slave (presumably whenever the >> >drive is in a docking station?) but it works for me right now, anyway. ... >> If I read your message right, the caddy connections inside the notebook are >> preset to jumper pins 48 to 50 on the drive because of some weirdness of >> IBM's making (incompatible use of those pins from old drives to new drives). >> You must have traced the caddy cable to find the correspondence between >> drive pins 48 and 50 to the corresponding caddy pins (?? and ?? -- can you >> tell us which pins these are?). Then you put tape on those caddy pins to >> disable the "motherboard" jumper? > ... I had to see this to believe it...so I looked up the jumper config for an older IBM 17mm drive (DHAA-2540 -- probably like the 540M I have in my 755CD). The web page for the jumpers on that is: http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/dhaa/dhaajum.htm And compared it to the new IBM drives (DCRA-22160) at web page: http://eagle.almaden.ibm.com/storage/techsup/hddtech/dcra/dcrajum.htm It seems UNBELIEVABLE...but indeed the jumpering is EXACTLY OPPOSITE...jumper in place from 47 to 48 to get MASTER on the DHAA, and in place from 47 to 48 to get SLAVE on the DCRA. Talk about the total opposite to compatibility...go figure!! Does IBM want to make sure we buy new systems for their new drives or what? I must be missing something here. Thanks Mike Redmond From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 16:54:48 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA185440888; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:54:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25101; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:49:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:46:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24865; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:45:59 -0400 Received: from tiger.avana.net (tiger.avana.net [205.245.133.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24855; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:45:52 -0400 Received: from littleboy.multisoft.com by tiger.avana.net; (5.65/1.1.8.2/30Apr96-1201PM) id AA04027; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:45:37 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961010204500.00691d00@tiger.avana.net> X-Sender: lrj@tiger.avana.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:45:00 -0400 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Lew Jansen Subject: Looking for a TP560 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Can anyone tell me who has TP560's in stock? It needs to be the P120/TFT/810MB version at least, but we'd prefer the P133/TFT/1.08G version. (alternately, we're considering the Toshiba Tecra 500; who has 'em in stock?) Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lew Jansen lrj@avana.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 16:58:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA186321118; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:58:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25575; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:52:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:51:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25427; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:51:08 -0400 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25408; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 16:51:02 -0400 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-3 #9830) id <01IAHAHRO2PS9X4EHL@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 13:50:25 MST Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 13:47:26 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: TP750 Memory Upgrades In-Reply-To: "Your message dated Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:41:31 -0400 (EDT)" Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IAHALRIIEW9X4EHL@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <01IAH5AZ7A0G9X4UPJ@Opus1.COM> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I didn't see a /pub/pcco, but I did see a /pub/pccbbs which has a > mobiles/0listing.txt in it. Yes this is it - finally found my notes here, too many interruptions at work today... Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 17:47:12 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA195084027; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:47:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00576; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:41:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:39:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00214; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:39:39 -0400 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00197; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:39:32 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu (yu1.yu.edu [129.98.200.100]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA02746; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:38:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA64194; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:37:46 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:37:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinof To: Liang Zhao Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Supervisor Passport In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu No chance, only way to remove it is to replace the system board. I wonder, however, if anyone has isolated where the EEPROM is that stores the supervisor password? On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Liang Zhao wrote: > I have thinkpad 755CD, I bought this as a used one. People put a supervisor > password on it. Is there any way I could decode and take off this > password by myself instead of going IBM and pay huge amount$$$$ for that. > > > > Lenny > > > > > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 10 18:49:47 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA203177786; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 18:49:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05989; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 18:44:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 10 Oct 1996 18:36:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05445; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 18:36:13 -0400 Received: from riverside.mr.net (root@Riverside.MR.Net [137.192.2.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05436; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 18:36:09 -0400 Received: from up by riverside.mr.net (8.7.6/SMI-4.1.R931202) id RAA03221; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:36:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <325D7A11.2F77@mr.net> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:35:40 -0500 From: roman Reply-To: oops@MR.Net Organization: htv inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: need schematic for 760eld References: <01IAH5AZ7A0G9X4UPJ@Opus1.COM> <01IAHALRIIEW9X4EHL@Opus1.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu anyone walking around with a TP 760eld schematic? im planning to add some goodies but have no idea where any of the entry or output point are...also i need to replace the drive with a bigger one and ibm hosed the bios somehow... any help would be much appreciated......roman high tech ventures, inc. fax 612 771 9939 minnesota usa oops@mr.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 11 01:07:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA252590442; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 01:07:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02997; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 01:05:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Oct 1996 01:00:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02587; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 01:00:52 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02577; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 01:00:48 -0400 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-g-72.usc.edu [128.125.223.216]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id WAA19404; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 22:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961011050123.010b7dfc@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 22:01:23 -0700 To: Lew Jansen From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Looking for a TP560 Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 04:45 PM 10/10/96 -0400, Lew Jansen wrote: > > Can anyone tell me who has TP560's in stock? It needs to be the >P120/TFT/810MB version at least, but we'd prefer the P133/TFT/1.08G version. I bought my P120 version about 6 weeks ago from PC Zone, which had them in stock. I even talked 'em into price-matching another firm that sold it for about $300 cheaper than they did (didn't get the match, but I *did* get some level of concession and a deal on a 2nd battery & memory--though I bought the memory elsewhere). ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 11 01:55:09 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA258913308; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 01:55:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA05189; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 01:53:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Oct 1996 01:52:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA05088; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 01:52:19 -0400 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA05082; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 01:52:16 -0400 Received: from ww7208865r (fish-60.ppp.hooked.net [206.80.10.60]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA00181 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 22:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <325DE02F.6AA8@hooked.net> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 22:50:39 -0700 From: Dan Adachi Reply-To: dadachi@hooked.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 755CD Driver for NEC XV17+ or Multisync 3FGx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am looking for a driver for an NEC XV17+ or a NEC Multisync 3FGx that will support 768 x 1024 under Windows 95 and my ThinkPad 755CD and a Dock II. I was able to get 768 x 1024 under Windows 3.1 with the same hardware. Currently with Windows 95 I am apparently only able to get 480 x 640. I could explain further, but I have the feeling that somebody out there has dealt with the same situation. If you have, please send me an e-mail. Thanks, dadachi@hooked.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 11 02:56:17 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA267876976; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 02:56:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09884; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 02:55:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Oct 1996 02:52:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09604; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 02:52:20 -0400 Received: from access.cn.camriv.bc.ca (access.cn.camriv.bc.ca [206.12.129.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09587; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 02:52:01 -0400 Received: from [206.12.129.11] by access.cn.camriv.bc.ca id be6c0.wrk; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 23:51:26 PDT Message-Id: <3.0b36.32.19961010235027.006b01fc@access.cn.camriv.bc.ca> X-Sender: Pat.Presidente@access.cn.camriv.bc.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b36 (32) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 23:50:30 -0700 To: dadachi@hooked.net From: Pat Presidente Subject: Re: 755CD Driver for NEC XV17+ or Multisync 3FGx Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Having asked the same question of this list for my NEC XP17, and getting some great results, I can come to the rescue. >IT WORKS!! > >Thanks Don, everything worked exactly as you outlined, AFTER I >disabled Enhanced Video in the Thinkpad Setup - Video Controller and >set DISPLAY to CRT only. > >So, thanks again to everyone who provided input on this. Ain't >collaboration grand! My XP17 looks great and I'm now off to get that >little Power Toy. :-) > >Looking at the BIG picture >Pat At 11:49 AM 9/19/96 PDT, you wrote: > >[Pat wrote:] >-> Note: I do have some enhanced video features. ie. I can input from the TV >-> or output to a TV. My problem is, with this nice NEC MultiSync XP17 that I >-> just bought, I would like to make use of the higher output resolutions to >-> the external monitor. When I go into display, the options are all greyed >-> out for higher than 640x480 resolution. Also no screen rotation which I >-> used under 3.1 when using the LCD display panel feature. (I have a CDV). >-> >-> Do you have the higher external video resolutions available? > >Apparently under Win95, you don't use the Video Features program to change >these settings -- you use the Win95 mechanisms. Open your Display control >panel and select the Settings tab, then Change Display Type. > >Make sure Adapter Type is Western Digital. Set Monitor Type to "Laptop >Display Panel (1024x768)". You'll likely need to reboot. Once you do, >again go into Display, then Settings, and the Desktop Area (resolution) bar >should now be active. On my 755CD, I can switch between: > 640x480 16-bit (High) Color > 640x480 8-bit (256) Color > 800x600 8-bit (256) Color > 1024x768 8-bit (256) Color >(Which reverts to just the 640x480 flavors when the notebook isn't connected >to an external monitor). > >Win95 does the switch on-the-fly (no reboot needed) and if it works, expects >you to click to retain the new setting, otherwise it times out after a few >seconds and restores the previous video mode. (I guess they expect it will >fail.) > >There's a Win95 PowerToy from Microsoft called QuickRes which puts a little >icon in the system bar and allows you to switch modes quickly w/o going >through the Display applet. > >When I was playing with this a few weeks back, I found that switching between >Laptop Display, CRT, or Both was best done using the Fn-F7 and not IBM's Video >Features program. The former worked, the latter crashed. However, I don't >have the latest BIOS burned so this might have been fixed. > >..Don Markuson > d.markuson@ieee.org At 10:53 PM 10/10/96 PDT, you wrote: >I am looking for a driver for an NEC XV17+ or a NEC Multisync 3FGx that >will support 768 x 1024 under Windows 95 and my ThinkPad 755CD and a >Dock II. I was able to get 768 x 1024 under Windows 3.1 with the same >hardware. Currently with Windows 95 I am apparently only able to get >480 x 640. I could explain further, but I have the feeling that somebody >out there has dealt with the same situation. If you have, please send >me an e-mail. > >Thanks, >dadachi@hooked.net > > ===========================================================================| O _ | Pat Presidente District Technology Resource Teacher| |_-/_| | Pat_Presidente@sd72.bc.ca SD 72 445 Pinecrest Rd | | | | Ph 604-830-2353 Fx 604-830-2329 Campbell River, B.C. V9W 3P2 | ===========================================================================| "It's a half an inch of water and you think you're gonna drown"-John Prine | ===========================================================================| From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 11 05:51:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA291167492; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 05:51:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA01061; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 05:50:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Oct 1996 05:46:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA00795; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 05:46:48 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA00789; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 05:46:42 -0400 Received: from cartan.hawaii.edu (cartan.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA10830; Thu, 10 Oct 96 23:46:35 HST Received: by cartan.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA01015; Thu, 10 Oct 1996 23:47:12 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199610110947.XAA01015@cartan.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: WTB: 701C Memory To: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 96 23:47:10 HST Cc: hewhite@mailbox.syr.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <325de867.29107366@smtp.enteract.com>; from "epbrown" at Oct 10, 96 12:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Go to www.thechipmerchant.com for their number. I've heard o 16MB = > modules > for less than $150. $131 this week (I just bought one). > (Everyone's discounting the RAM since the sysem was discontinued; when > stock goes down and it's rarer, folks on the used market are gonna get = > gouged, > imo.) The 3.3v SO-DIMMS are used by other systems than the 701 - aren't the same modules used in the newer Thinkpads? - David (ross@math.hawaii.edu) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 11 09:27:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA015140439; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:27:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16106; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:23:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:17:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15624; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:17:54 -0400 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15605; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:17:38 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:17:38 -0400 Message-Id: <199610111317.JAA15605@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from ilse2 by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 11 Oct 96 15:17:37 MEZ X-Sender: ups11c@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: a.neus@uni-bonn.de (Andreas Neus) Subject: 701 IR port and HPLJ5P X-Mailer: Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi! I seem to be unable to use the 701's IR port to print to a HPLJ5P, although from what I read, the hardware should be compatible. Unfortunately, neither the IBM, nor the HP web-pages offer any help on this (although they both hail this feature extensively in their ads :-) Do I need special software to access the 701's IR port, or is fiddling with the allocation of the lpt-port sufficient (something which I have tried, but to no effect). I am still running the preinstalled OS/2 and DOS/Win dual boot. Thanks in advance for any help, or any pointers to potentially helpful info. Andreas -- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 11 11:16:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA030297002; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:16:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26855; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:09:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:02:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25959; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:02:37 -0400 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25896; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:02:22 -0400 Received: from earth.execpc.com (hseaman@earth [169.207.16.1]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.7.6/8.7.5) with ESMTP id KAA23486; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:02:22 -0500 Received: from localhost (hseaman@localhost) by earth.execpc.com (8.7.6/8.7) with SMTP id KAA22848; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:02:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:02:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Harry Seaman X-Sender: hseaman@earth To: Michael Redmond Cc: Tim Tyhurst , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IBM 2.1G in 755 (was: Toshiba 2.1G in 755) In-Reply-To: <199610102006.PAA05342@cae.wisc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Michael Redmond wrote: > It seems UNBELIEVABLE...but indeed the jumpering is EXACTLY > OPPOSITE...jumper in place from 47 to 48 to get MASTER on the DHAA, and in > place from 47 to 48 to get SLAVE on the DCRA. Talk about the total opposite > to compatibility...go figure!! Does IBM want to make sure we buy new systems > for their new drives or what? I must be missing something here. I too had this problem, when goint from 340 to 810 MB in my 750C. The 810 was also IBM, but the wrong "type" regarding jumper settings. Using a fine tip soldering iron, I lifted the connector lead for pin 47 or 48 (I forget which, either one is OK) from the pc board on the drive. You have to remove the PCB to get at this, but it wasn't hard. the other option would be to simply clip the pin on the connector, but that's pretty irreversible. If you use the method I described, the drive can always be restored to the original configuration. best regards, harry seaman From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 11 13:33:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA048065180; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:33:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10774; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:27:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:20:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10236; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:20:47 -0400 Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@[207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10210; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:20:42 -0400 Received: (from whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA30452; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 12:20:09 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 12:20:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 755CD Driver for NEC XV17+ or Multisync 3FGx Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu You also need to make sure that you have the VESA driver installed via your CONFIG.SYS file. Then the Windows 95 driver should work just fine. Chris From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 11 14:11:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA053047469; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 14:11:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14317; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 14:05:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Oct 1996 14:02:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14004; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 14:02:49 -0400 Received: from riverside.mr.net (root@Riverside.MR.Net [137.192.2.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13998; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 14:02:46 -0400 Received: from up by riverside.mr.net (8.7.6/SMI-4.1.R931202) id MAA28346; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 12:59:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <325E8978.2CC5@mr.net> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 12:59:52 -0500 From: roman Reply-To: oops@MR.Net Organization: htv inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Harry Seaman Cc: Michael Redmond , Tim Tyhurst , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IBM 2.1G in 755 (was: Toshiba 2.1G in 755) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Harry Seaman wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Michael Redmond wrote: > > > It seems UNBELIEVABLE...but indeed the jumpering is EXACTLY > > OPPOSITE...jumper in place from 47 to 48 to get MASTER on the DHAA, and in > > place from 47 to 48 to get SLAVE on the DCRA. Talk about the total opposite > > to compatibility...go figure!! Does IBM want to make sure we buy new systems > > for their new drives or what? I must be missing something here. > > I too had this problem, when goint from 340 to 810 MB in my 750C. The 810 > was also IBM, but the wrong "type" regarding jumper settings. Using a > fine tip soldering iron, I lifted the connector lead for pin 47 or 48 (I > forget which, either one is OK) from the pc board on the drive. You have > to remove the PCB to get at this, but it wasn't hard. > > the other option would be to simply clip the pin on the connector, but > that's pretty irreversible. If you use the method I described, the drive > can always be restored to the original configuration. > > best regards, harry seaman dear mr seaman...is it possible that TP 760eld would also be aminable to the same technique? thank you.. -- high tech ventures, inc. fax 612 771 9939 minnesota usa oops@mr.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 11 19:43:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA098167383; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 19:43:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10306; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 19:39:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Oct 1996 19:27:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09387; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 19:27:20 -0400 Received: from mail.pop-frankfurt.com (mail.ipf.de [194.152.32.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09380; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 19:27:10 -0400 Received: from ip235.ipf.de (ip235.ipf.de [194.152.33.235]) by mail.pop-frankfurt.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA10230; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 00:26:27 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199610112326.AAA10230@mail.pop-frankfurt.com> From: "Joerg Klemenz" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" , "Andreas Neus" Date: Sat, 12 Oct 96 01:26:49 -0100 Reply-To: "Joerg Klemenz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Joerg Klemenz's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 701 IR port and HPLJ5P Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:17:38 -0400, Andreas Neus wrote: >I seem to be unable to use the 701's IR port to print to a HPLJ5P, although >from what I read, the hardware should be compatible. Unfortunately, neither >the IBM, nor the HP web-pages offer any help on this (although they both hail >this feature extensively in their ads :-) > >Do I need special software to access the 701's IR port, or is fiddling >with the allocation of the lpt-port sufficient (something which I have tried, >but to no effect). I use only OS/2 on my 701. It came with no IR drivers. Have a look at ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/os/os2/drivers/misc/infrared.zip joerg klemenz (joergk@ipf.de) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 11 22:42:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA118198159; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 22:42:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22477; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 22:41:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 11 Oct 1996 22:38:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22254; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 22:38:18 -0400 Received: from ns.moran.com ([204.97.213.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22248; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 22:38:12 -0400 Received: from default (nwd89.moran.com [208.130.76.89]) by ns.moran.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA23983 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 1996 23:40:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <325F04DA.7E7C@moran.com> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 22:39:22 -0400 From: Jeffrey P Frick Reply-To: frickjp@moran.com Organization: Nowhere near enough! X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: WTB: TP750c or 755c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, I am trying to locate a used IBM laptop for my realtor. I would prefer a 750 or 755. She wants active color, at least 12mb, reasonable shape. Thanks, JPF From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 12 07:35:13 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA177590112; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 07:35:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29405; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 07:34:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 12 Oct 1996 07:27:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29066; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 07:27:13 -0400 Received: from psi.com (psi.com [192.67.6.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29059; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 07:27:03 -0400 Received: from qtny.quantime.com by psi.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI) id HAA08627; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 07:27:44 -0400 Received: from quantime.co.uk by qtny.quantime.com; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 07:26:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tiree.quantime.co.uk (tiree) by quantime.co.uk; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 12:24:37 +0100 From: Alex Judd Message-Id: <12686.199610121126@tiree.quantime.co.uk> Received: by tiree.quantime.co.uk; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 12:26:00 +0100 Subject: Thinkpads vs ? To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 12:26:00 +0100 (BST) Cc: ajudd@quantime.co.uk (Alex Judd ) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It is a sad day. After spending two years investing time and money into Thinkpads, my company has today decided that they will no longer be using Thinkpad machines as our standard lap-top machine. Therefore I am now faced with trying to find a replacement machine that has all the facilities and power of a TP760ED for our support people, and the screen facilities and light weight of a TP560 for our sales people. I know this is not the right place for this discussion, but I guess everyone here must have weighed othermachines against the Thinkpads, and have a fair idea what comes second best. Any advice much appreciated (please email me if you can). Thanks in advance, Alex Judd From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 12 08:31:51 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA182163510; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 08:31:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01944; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 08:31:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 12 Oct 1996 08:29:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01755; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 08:29:35 -0400 Received: from riverside.mr.net (root@Riverside.MR.Net [137.192.2.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01749; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 08:29:32 -0400 Received: from up by riverside.mr.net (8.7.6/SMI-4.1.R931202) id HAA14640; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 07:29:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <325F8F23.5212@mr.net> Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 07:29:23 -0500 From: roman Reply-To: oops@MR.Net Organization: htv inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Judd Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpads vs ? References: <12686.199610121126@tiree.quantime.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Alex Judd wrote: > > It is a sad day. After spending two years investing time and money > into Thinkpads, my company has today decided that they will no longer > be using Thinkpad machines as our standard lap-top machine. ..........our company returned all 23 760's...they kept freezing up at the worst time.. > > Therefore I am now faced with trying to find a replacement machine > that has all the facilities and power of a TP760ED for our support > people, and the screen facilities and light weight of a TP560 for > our sales people. > > I know this is not the right place for this discussion, but I guess > everyone here must have weighed othermachines against the Thinkpads, > and have a fair idea what comes second best. > > Any advice much appreciated (please email me if you can). we are buying top end toshibas...and they are really nice.. > > Thanks in advance, > > Alex Judd -- high tech ventures, inc. fax 612 771 9939 minnesota usa oops@mr.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 12 16:29:07 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA233962147; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 16:29:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28036; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 16:28:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 12 Oct 1996 16:22:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27506; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 16:22:24 -0400 Received: from mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.129.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27500; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 16:22:22 -0400 Received: from LOCALNAME ([207.147.106.153]) by mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA10749 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 20:21:49 +0000 X-Sender: m.millegan@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Millegan Subject: Introduction Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 20:21:49 +0000 Message-Id: <19961012202146.AAA10749@LOCALNAME> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a TP701c (8MB, 360MB HD) that I use in my job as a high school math and computer science teacher in San Antonio, TX. I am particularly interested in dealing with configuration problems that I have expereinced since I partitioned my HD to cut down on cluster size. The included Central Point Backup program performed rather inconsistently as did the diskette factory program provided to create system, windows 3.11 disks, and backups of bundled software. I think I have resolved most of the problems, but occassionally get GPF's and VxD errors in very inconsistent patterns. Has anyone else had these problems? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 12 16:40:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA236742841; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 16:40:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28908; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 16:39:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 12 Oct 1996 16:38:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28821; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 16:38:36 -0400 Received: from enteract.com (root@enteract.com [206.54.252.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28815; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 16:38:33 -0400 Received: from able-25.d.enteract.com (able-25.d.enteract.com [206.54.253.40]) by enteract.com (8.8.Beta.6/8.7.6) with SMTP id PAA20984 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 15:38:24 -0500 (CDT) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Introduction Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 20:39:05 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <3264ffb6.41635426@smtp.enteract.com> References: <19961012202146.AAA10749@LOCALNAME> In-Reply-To: <19961012202146.AAA10749@LOCALNAME> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 12 Oct 1996 20:21:49 +0000, you wrote: "I have a TP701c (8MB, 360MB HD) that I use in my job as a high school = math "and computer science teacher in San Antonio, TX. =20 " "I am particularly interested in dealing with configuration problems that= I "have expereinced since I partitioned my HD to cut down on cluster size. = The "included Central Point Backup program performed rather inconsistently as= did "the diskette factory program provided to create system, windows 3.11 = disks, "and backups of bundled software. I think I have resolved most of the "problems, but occassionally get GPF's and VxD errors in very = inconsistent "patterns. Has anyone else had these problems? Well, CPB failed me miserably as well, but Diskette Factory did make my set properly. I don't recall it backing up the bundled software, but I'm one of those people who dumps everything but the OS anyway. Why were you partitioning the drive with only a 360? I thought DOS couldn't get below 8KB/cluster, and that's anything smaller than 500MB. = I partitioned my 360 when I installed OS/2, and I didn't noticed any improvement in cluster size efficiency. As for the GPFs and such, welcome to Windows! I recommend spending a couple hundred bucks or so and get 16MB of RAM and the Win95 upgrade - = runs great on the 701. epbrown epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 12 18:41:50 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA249260109; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 18:41:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06343; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 18:40:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 12 Oct 1996 18:37:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06147; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 18:37:32 -0400 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06140; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 18:37:25 -0400 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA22509; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 15:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johnp (johnppp.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA04320 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Sat, 12 Oct 1996 15:37:11 -0700 From: "John Pham" Message-Id: <961012154534.ZM12862@johnp> Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 15:45:19 -0700 In-Reply-To: Alex Judd "Thinkpads vs ?" (Oct 12, 12:26pm) References: <12686.199610121126@tiree.quantime.co.uk> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0.1 (4.0.1 Apr 9 1996) To: Alex Judd Subject: Re: Thinkpads vs ? Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Oct 12, 12:26pm, Alex Judd wrote: > Subject: Thinkpads vs ? > It is a sad day. After spending two years investing time and money > into Thinkpads, my company has today decided that they will no longer > be using Thinkpad machines as our standard lap-top machine. > > Therefore I am now faced with trying to find a replacement machine > that has all the facilities and power of a TP760ED for our support > people, and the screen facilities and light weight of a TP560 for > our sales people. > > I know this is not the right place for this discussion, but I guess > everyone here must have weighed othermachines against the Thinkpads, > and have a fair idea what comes second best. > > Any advice much appreciated (please email me if you can). > > Thanks in advance, > > Alex Judd >-- End of excerpt from Alex Judd Hi Alex, Just out of curiosity, why did your company decide to drop the TPs? I've used both Toshiba and NEC machines before and have got excellent support from NEC. I'd not hesistate to pick up a Tecra 500CDT or Portege 650 if I could. Good luck, John Pham From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 12 18:51:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA250200672; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 18:51:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06937; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 18:50:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 12 Oct 1996 18:49:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06825; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 18:49:10 -0400 Received: from enteract.com (root@enteract.com [206.54.252.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06818; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 18:49:07 -0400 Received: from able-4.d.enteract.com (able-4.d.enteract.com [206.54.253.19]) by enteract.com (8.8.Beta.6/8.7.6) with SMTP id RAA28022; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 17:49:01 -0500 (CDT) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: ajudd@quantime.co.uk Subject: Re: Thinkpads vs ? Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 22:49:43 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <32661f79.1995128@smtp.enteract.com> References: <12686.199610121126@tiree.quantime.co.uk> <961012154534.ZM12862@johnp> In-Reply-To: <961012154534.ZM12862@johnp> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sat, 12 Oct 1996 15:45:19 -0700, you wrote: "On Oct 12, 12:26pm, Alex Judd wrote: "> Subject: Thinkpads vs ? "> It is a sad day. After spending two years investing time and money "> into Thinkpads, my company has today decided that they will no longer "> be using Thinkpad machines as our standard lap-top machine. "> I know this is not the right place for this discussion, but I guess "> everyone here must have weighed othermachines against the Thinkpads, "> and have a fair idea what comes second best. " "Just out of curiosity, why did your company decide to drop the TPs? "I've used both Toshiba and NEC machines before and have got excellent=20 "support from NEC. I'd not hesistate to pick up a Tecra 500CDT or=20 "Portege 650 if I could. I'll have to 2nd that. I'd probably go with Toshiba as well, if I stopped buying Thinkpads, overall. If I wanted another subnotebook, the Twinhead brands are looking better than the 560 to me. epbrown =20 epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 12 19:30:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA254963003; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 19:30:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08664; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 19:29:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 12 Oct 1996 19:27:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08568; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 19:27:49 -0400 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au (anugpo.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08559; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 19:27:44 -0400 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.7.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA01185; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 09:27:21 +1000 (EST) From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.7.6/8.6.12) id JAA18882; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 09:27:18 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 09:27:17 +1000 (EST) To: John Pham Cc: Alex Judd , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpads vs ? In-Reply-To: <961012154534.ZM12862@johnp> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > On Oct 12, 12:26pm, Alex Judd wrote: > > Subject: Thinkpads vs ? > > It is a sad day. After spending two years investing time and money > > in to Thinkpads, my company has today decided that they will no longer > > be using Thinkpad machines as our standard lap-top machine. > > > > Therefore I am now faced with trying to find a replacement machine > > that has all the facilities and power of a TP760ED for our support > > people, and the screen facilities and light weight of a TP560 for > > our sales people. > > > > I know this is not the right place for this discussion, but I guess > > everyone here must have weighed othermachines against the Thinkpads, > > and have a fair idea what comes second best. > > > > Any advice much appreciated (please email me if you can). > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Alex Judd > >-- End of excerpt from Alex Judd > this is the perfect place for this kind of discussion because it helps to highlight the strengths and weaknesses of the thinkpad line. if a few ibm people subscribe discussion of weaknesses might lead to some improvement. my thinkpad 755CE has been by and large a great machine, well worth its price to me. support has been good, both locally and in terms of the ibm ftp site. however, our software support person, to whom i have given a few of the problems (like trying to deal with an infernal Jaz drive) keeps telling me to get a toshiba or digital because they are more likely to follow [ even if they may not set : - ) ] industry standards, and therefore there is less need for support. but when i get a new machine, hopefully shortly, i expect to pass the 755ce onto a programmer i work with, and expect a couple of more years use from the mahine. one thing i find offputting is the dribble dribble dribble approach of ibm to its offerings. the 760 came out last november and what did it offer? a 12.1" display and a movie clip. then over the next 3 or 4 months each previously offered machine was superceded, bit by bit, dribble by dribble. no upgrade path, no (i think) components that you could carry forward to your next machine (eg, a large hdd), a cd-rom drive. this incremental approach really encourages postponed decisions, or changes to machines for which you can say, well at least i will have the damn thing for 6 months before it is superceded by some feature i'd really like to have (such as a PCI bus in the case of the first 760's). i too am looking for discussions about new machines, of any brand. regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 12 19:42:48 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA257223768; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 19:42:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09676; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 19:41:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 12 Oct 1996 19:36:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09223; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 19:36:54 -0400 Received: from smtp-gw01.ca.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ca.us.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09217; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 19:36:44 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ca.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA29299; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 23:36:33 GMT Message-Id: <199610122336.XAA29299@smtp-gw01.ca.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip166-72-92-108.nj.us.ibm.net(166.72.92.108) by smtp-gw01.ca.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaS2kGrx; Sat Oct 12 23:36:26 1996 From: "Clarence C.Collins" To: "Dave Ahn" , "Steve Hultquist" Cc: "Kendall Chenoweth" , Subject: Re: DOS on DISK Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 02:00:25 -0400 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu That's right as long as there are no other copies in use, say, by the original owner. then it's perfectly legal to transfer ownership, as gift, or sale. Clarence C. Collins ---------- > From: Steve Hultquist > To: Dave Ahn > Cc: Kendall Chenoweth ; thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: DOS on DISK > Date: Tuesday, October 08, 1996 7:43 PM > > Licensing ios usually for one computer at a time This means that the software > license can either follow the computer or the person, under the discretion of > the person. > > ssh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 12 19:43:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA257263784; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 19:43:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09680; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 19:41:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 12 Oct 1996 19:36:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09204; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 19:36:42 -0400 Received: from smtp-gw01.ca.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ca.us.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09198; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 19:36:37 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ca.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA29296; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 23:36:32 GMT Message-Id: <199610122336.XAA29296@smtp-gw01.ca.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip166-72-92-108.nj.us.ibm.net(166.72.92.108) by smtp-gw01.ca.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaS2kCrx; Sat Oct 12 23:36:22 1996 From: "Clarence C.Collins" To: , Subject: Re: Mwave Modem - dialtone recognition ??? Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 01:39:40 -0400 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am not sure if this will help you, but I think the answer to your problem is in the tel# line. try this if you haven't already done so, "9,,,XXX-XXXX " the commas will force the modem to dial for your outside line, then pause, pause, pause then dial the tel.# It's recommended when using PBX. Clarence. ---------- > From: Tony Staples > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Mwave Modem - dialtone recognition ??? > Date: Tuesday, October 08, 1996 6:11 AM > > I have a new (to me) 760C, running Win95, with the MWave modem. The > modem works fine on a conventional analog line such as at my home, but > I m having difficulty with it at work. I have an analog line, coming > from an SRX pbx system, and the MWave modem will not recognize the > initial dial tone. The line has a higher pitched dial tone when you first > go off hook. After a 9 is dialed, to reach an outside line, the > dialtone drops to the conventional tone. The MWave modem will not > dial any digits that are entered, as it does not recognize the initial > dial tone as being valid. I only get an error message saying that no > dialtone was detected, and to ensure the modem is plugged in . . . > yada, yada, yada. > > I normally use a Hayes Optima 288 PCMCIA, and a USR Courier on this > same line without any grief. I have looked through the online > documentation for the MWave, and I cannot find any AT command settings > that will force the modem to dial the initial 9 to get the > conventional tone, or to just ignore the tone, an dial blindly. I > have upgraded to all the latestbios and drivers, from the IBM web site, for > MWave, and everything else. I have also applied Service Pack 1, > and all the Win95 patches eleased since service pack 1, as posted on > the Microsoft Win95 web site. None of these upgrades affected the > MWave modem's ability to detect my pbx's dial tone, although they did > solve another anomaly I was experiencing with dial up networking not > remembering my password. Any input into solving this one is greatly > appreciated. > -Tony Staples > tstaples@sprintmail.com <---NOTE: NEW ADDRESS From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 12 22:04:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA272012261; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 22:04:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18095; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 22:03:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 12 Oct 1996 21:58:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17801; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 21:58:16 -0400 Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [198.7.0.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA17795; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 21:58:13 -0400 Received: from localhost (bfeitell@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.7.6/8.7/PanixU1.3) with SMTP id VAA15670 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 21:58:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 21:58:06 -0400 (EDT) From: bfeitell To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Introduction In-Reply-To: <3264ffb6.41635426@smtp.enteract.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I haven't piped in for a long time but I will second the switch to windows95. 95 has much more robust error handling than 3.1x, an application may crash but the system usually will not hang. As for cluster size management, I cannot speak highly enough of Partition Magic. For me the only drawback is the lack of full ext2fs (linux) support. The PLUS add on for win95 is nice especially for the system agent and drivespace3 features, as for the other bits I will quote bill the cat "plffft!". .02 for what its worth, Bennett Feitell p.s. is anyone here playing with NT Workstatiion 4.0? TP355 Mono (dead screen ext. Mon. still running!). On Sat, 12 Oct 1996, epbrown wrote: > Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 20:39:05 GMT > From: epbrown > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Introduction > > On Sat, 12 Oct 1996 20:21:49 +0000, you wrote: > "I have a TP701c (8MB, 360MB HD) that I use in my job as a high school math > "and computer science teacher in San Antonio, TX. > " > "I am particularly interested in dealing with configuration problems that I > "have expereinced since I partitioned my HD to cut down on cluster size. The > "included Central Point Backup program performed rather inconsistently as did > "the diskette factory program provided to create system, windows 3.11 disks, > "and backups of bundled software. I think I have resolved most of the > "problems, but occassionally get GPF's and VxD errors in very inconsistent > "patterns. Has anyone else had these problems? > Well, CPB failed me miserably as well, but Diskette Factory did make my > set properly. I don't recall it backing up the bundled software, but I'm > one of those people who dumps everything but the OS anyway. > Why were you partitioning the drive with only a 360? I thought DOS > couldn't get below 8KB/cluster, and that's anything smaller than 500MB. I > partitioned my 360 when I installed OS/2, and I didn't noticed any > improvement in cluster size efficiency. > As for the GPFs and such, welcome to Windows! I recommend spending a > couple hundred bucks or so and get 16MB of RAM and the Win95 upgrade - runs > great on the 701. > epbrown > > epbrown@enteract.com > Laptop Central > http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 12 23:43:27 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA282298206; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 23:43:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24874; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 23:42:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 12 Oct 1996 23:39:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24607; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 23:39:27 -0400 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24601; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 23:39:25 -0400 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id XAA03529; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 23:42:30 -0400 Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 23:42:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Christian Carey To: epbrown Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Introduction In-Reply-To: <3264ffb6.41635426@smtp.enteract.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Saturday, 12th October 1996, epbrown wrote: > Why were you partitioning the drive with only a 360? I thought DOS > couldn't get below 8KB/cluster, and that's anything smaller than 500MB. Oh no, the FAT cluster size will continue to shrink down to 512 KB (at just below 32 MB) - my desktop HD is divided at just below each 256 MB line for 4 KB clusters. (In this discussion, K = 1024 and M = 1048576 rather than K = 1000 and M = 1000000.) > I recommend spending a couple hundred bucks or so and get 16MB of RAM > and the Win95 upgrade - runs great on the 701. I'd guess that just upgrading to 16 MB would help to cut down the GPF occurrences. Christian. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 13 00:06:46 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA284459606; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:06:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26564; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:05:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:04:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26413; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:04:07 -0400 Received: from emout20.mail.aol.com (emout20.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26405; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:04:04 -0400 From: Received: by emout20.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA18064 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:03:32 -0400 Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:03:32 -0400 Message-Id: <961013000331_209241714@emout20.mail.aol.com> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP701 hard Drive Caddies Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Announcement !! We will be releasing our own version of the IBM Thinkpad 701 Hard Drive Caddy near the end of October. We will be having an introductory offer with rather great pricing. There will also be an incredible price on Hard Drive and CPU upgrade combinations.Hard Drives range from 540mb to 1.3gb and the CPU upgrade will bring you system up to the AMD 5X86/100. This is the response equivalent of the Pentium 75. This pricing will be for a limited time only !! Contact me if you need any other information. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM Up to 2.1GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com/pep From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 13 00:27:50 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA287200869; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:27:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28619; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:26:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:25:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28293; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:25:07 -0400 Received: from srvr7.engin.umich.edu (root@srvr7.engin.umich.edu [141.212.2.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28287; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:25:04 -0400 Received: from srvr5.engin.umich.edu (root@srvr5.engin.umich.edu [141.212.2.89]) by srvr7.engin.umich.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA25285 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:25:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lestat.eecs.umich.edu (pm1-27.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.6.252]) by srvr5.engin.umich.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA12035 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:24:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199610130424.AAA12035@srvr5.engin.umich.edu> From: "Timothy D. Strong" To: Subject: FS: 8MB ICDRAM for 700, 720, 750 and 755's Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:26:03 -0400 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu If we aren't supposed to post forsale announcements I am very sorry and I won't post one again. Anyway its a parity DRAM module in perfect working order by Apex Memory (IBM sells this brand through PCDIRECT so they have IBM's seal of approval). I've had it for a year and never had a problem with it. Best offer takes it! ------- Timothy D. Strong strongtd@engin.umich.edu University of Michigan From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 13 00:32:23 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA287531142; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:32:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28835; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:29:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:29:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28742; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:29:01 -0400 Received: from srvr7.engin.umich.edu (root@srvr7.engin.umich.edu [141.212.2.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28736; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:28:57 -0400 Received: from srvr5.engin.umich.edu (root@srvr5.engin.umich.edu [141.212.2.89]) by srvr7.engin.umich.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA25361 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:28:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lestat.eecs.umich.edu (pm1-27.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.6.252]) by srvr5.engin.umich.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA12504 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:28:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199610130428.AAA12504@srvr5.engin.umich.edu> From: "Timothy D. Strong" To: "Thinkpad List" Subject: Introduction Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:29:58 -0400 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Greetings everyone. I have a TP755C 25/75 with 20MB of RAM 540MB HD running Windows 95. I also have a DockII and a 4x CD-ROM with a soundblaster in it (gotta have them DOS games you know). Now I've gotten my Windows 95 sound to work. I used to have sound in DOS window mode with the soundblaster. Unfortunately I installed Microsoft DirectX one night and Poof my DOS window sound was GONE. Is there anyone else out there that has a similar config and has it working? ------- Timothy D. Strong strongtd@engin.umich.edu University of Michigan From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 13 00:42:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA288861735; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:42:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29737; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:41:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:39:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29509; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:39:21 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu ([128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29502; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 00:39:14 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA15155; Sat, 12 Oct 96 18:38:57 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA06601; Sat, 12 Oct 1996 18:39:09 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199610130439.SAA06601@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: TP701 hard Drive Caddies To: PEPSales@aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Oct 96 18:39:07 HST Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <961013000331_209241714@emout20.mail.aol.com>; from "PEPSales@aol.com" at Oct 13, 96 12:03 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Announcement !! We will be releasing our own version of the IBM Thinkpad 701 > Hard Drive Caddy near the end of October. Will these only work with your own drives, or will they work with generic 2.5" drives (Toshibas, Quantums, Hitachis, etc)? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 13 01:38:37 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA294325117; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 01:38:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02245; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 01:37:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Oct 1996 01:35:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02072; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 01:35:28 -0400 Received: from srvr7.engin.umich.edu (root@srvr7.engin.umich.edu [141.212.2.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02055; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 01:35:23 -0400 Received: from srvr5.engin.umich.edu (root@srvr5.engin.umich.edu [141.212.2.89]) by srvr7.engin.umich.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA26613 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 01:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lestat.eecs.umich.edu (pm1-12.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.6.237]) by srvr5.engin.umich.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA19586 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 01:35:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199610130535.BAA19586@srvr5.engin.umich.edu> From: "Timothy D. Strong" To: "Thinkpad List" Subject: Dock2 Windows95 and TP755C Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 01:36:18 -0400 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone figure out how to get the 755C to allow for hot undocking from the Dock station for win95. The option shows up in the menu and seems to work but when you pull the machine out there is no way to access it out of the dock. The keyboard and mouse are dead and the screen is blank (however the harddrive is spinning.) ------- Timothy D. Strong strongtd@engin.umich.edu University of Michigan From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 13 09:32:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA038843522; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 09:32:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02437; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 09:30:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Oct 1996 09:25:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02027; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 09:25:46 -0400 Received: from psi.com (psi.com [192.67.6.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01999; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 09:25:35 -0400 Received: from qtny.quantime.com by psi.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI) id JAA15118; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 09:26:13 -0400 Received: from quantime.co.uk by qtny.quantime.com; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 09:24:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tiree.quantime.co.uk (tiree) by quantime.co.uk; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 14:22:57 +0100 From: Alex Judd Message-Id: <14923.199610131324@tiree.quantime.co.uk> Received: by tiree.quantime.co.uk; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 14:24:25 +0100 Subject: Re: Thinkpads vs ? To: johnp@lantronix.com (John Pham) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 14:24:25 +0100 (BST) Cc: ajudd@quantime.co.uk, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <961012154534.ZM12862@johnp> from "John Pham" at Oct 12, 96 03:45:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks to everyone that replied. We as a company have decided to move away from Thinkpads for a number of reasons, but primarily the fact that although they are leading edge, they are one of the most non-standard beasts around. When we moved to Windows 95 a while back, we tested a number of machines with the OS before we upgraded the whole company, and decided to delay the overall install due to various problems. The other reason is that the 560 although ideal for our sales people due to being compact and with a nice huge screen, only has an easily damagable external floppy drive..., not ideal for sales people. I'm thinking very strongly of the Tecra CDT as a replacement to the TP 760 as the features seem to be comparable.. 12.1 TFT Screen, 6X CDROM Pentium 120 Processor, 1.2 Gig HD and 16Mb of memory for the same price as a 760E P120 with only 8MB memory. My problem machine to replace is the TP560. What we require is a machine with a 12.1 TFT Screen, P90+ Processor, and floppy (CD not needed), and hopefully from the same manufacturer.. Problem is only IBM seem to make this type of machine with this amount of features that is as light and as compact. And suggestions? Thanks in advance, Alex Judd > Just out of curiosity, why did your company decide to drop the TPs? > > I've used both Toshiba and NEC machines before and have got excellent > support from NEC. I'd not hesistate to pick up a Tecra 500CDT or > Portege 650 if I could. > > Good luck, > > John Pham > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 13 09:53:14 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA041214794; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 09:53:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03689; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 09:52:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Oct 1996 09:50:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03392; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 09:50:06 -0400 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM ([158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03368; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 09:49:59 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id GAA01726; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 06:49:36 -0700 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma845214574.001723; Sun Oct 13 06:49:35 1996 Received: (from perley@localhost) by cds9258.Cadence.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA09639; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 06:49:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Perley Message-Id: <199610131349.GAA09639@cds9258.Cadence.COM> Subject: Re: Thinkpads vs ? To: ajudd@quantime.co.uk (Alex Judd) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 06:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <14923.199610131324@tiree.quantime.co.uk> from "Alex Judd" at Oct 13, 96 02:24:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > My problem machine to replace is the TP560. What we require is a machine > with a 12.1 TFT Screen, P90+ Processor, and floppy (CD not needed), and > hopefully from the same manufacturer.. Problem is only IBM seem to make > this type of machine with this amount of features that is as light and > as compact. Sorry to state the obvious, but there *is* some cause and effect relationship between "light and compact" and "no internal floppy." -Don Perley From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 13 10:14:30 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA042866070; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 10:14:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04981; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 10:13:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Oct 1996 10:11:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04794; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 10:11:55 -0400 Received: from mozart.inet.co.th (rakkiat@mozart.inet.co.th [202.44.200.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04788; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 10:11:51 -0400 Received: from localhost by mozart.inet.co.th; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/07Nov95-0628PM) id AA30942; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 21:11:32 +0700 Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 21:11:32 +0700 (GMT+0700) From: Rakkiat Trimahaloek To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: How to install Merlin to 760CD ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi all, I am now using OS/2 Warp and would like to know if I need the external FDD adapter to install Merlin. The problem is Merlin will be available in Thailand by the end of this month for English version with Thai version next year. 8-( BUT the external FDD adapter is not available at all. I have ordered mine since May and have not got it yet. The dealer just told me that IBM can't supply the item. If I can install Merlin without the FDD case, I will cancel my order. Regards, Rakkiat From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 13 11:07:59 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA048249278; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 11:07:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07984; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 11:03:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Oct 1996 11:01:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07858; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 11:01:10 -0400 Received: from enteract.com (root@enteract.com [206.54.252.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07852; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 11:01:07 -0400 Received: from isaiah-11.d.enteract.com (isaiah-11.d.enteract.com [206.54.253.90]) by enteract.com (8.8.Beta.6/8.7.6) with SMTP id KAA05308 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 10:00:58 -0500 (CDT) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops Subject: Flash Upgrade for PPI 28.8 modem Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 15:01:43 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <32610304.2162193@news.enteract.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've got the Practical Perpipherals ProClass 28.8 EZ-Port, and it's supposed to be upgradeable to 33.6 with a Flash-ROM from PPI. Well, I'm wondering if anyone has done this successfully? I've tried about a dozen times and the thing hangs my system in DOS, or I have to kill the task under Win95. It hangs while searching for the com port, usually. If I input the com port and irq, it just hangs after starting. I've waited a couple of minutes for the thing with no messages. Has anyone heard if the thing doesn't work? epbrown epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 13 11:13:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA048509599; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 11:13:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08542; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 11:08:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Oct 1996 11:08:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08442; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 11:08:03 -0400 Received: from asstdc.scgt.oz.au (root@asstdc.scgt.oz.au [202.14.234.65]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08435; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 11:07:55 -0400 Received: (from imb@localhost) by asstdc.scgt.oz.au (8.7.6/BSD4.4) id BAA15724 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 01:07:42 +1000 (EST) From: michael butler Message-Id: <199610131507.BAA15724@asstdc.scgt.oz.au> Subject: IBM DMCA-21440 in TP560 ? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 01:07:41 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone tried to install an IBM DMCA-21440 (low profile 1.4 gig) drive into a TP-560 ? It seems to be the right form-factor, electrically and commmand-compatible. I haven't bought one yet but I was looking at the minute amount of space left after winlose-95 and FreeBSD with a full source tree .. another 600 meg would be very handy, michael From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 13 11:43:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA052391422; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 11:43:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10995; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 11:42:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Oct 1996 11:40:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10699; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 11:40:27 -0400 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10681; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 11:40:18 -0400 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA29847; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 08:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johnp (johnppp.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA12402 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Sun, 13 Oct 1996 08:39:58 -0700 From: "John Pham" Message-Id: <961013084818.ZM16502@johnp> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 08:48:09 -0700 In-Reply-To: Alex Judd "Re: Thinkpads vs ?" (Oct 13, 2:24pm) References: <14923.199610131324@tiree.quantime.co.uk> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0.1 (4.0.1 Apr 9 1996) To: Alex Judd Subject: Re: Thinkpads vs ? Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Oct 13, 2:24pm, Alex Judd wrote: > Subject: Re: Thinkpads vs ? > Thanks to everyone that replied. > > We as a company have decided to move away from Thinkpads for a number > of reasons, but primarily the fact that although they are leading edge, > they are one of the most non-standard beasts around. > > When we moved to Windows 95 a while back, we tested a number of machines > with the OS before we upgraded the whole company, and decided to delay > the overall install due to various problems. > > The other reason is that the 560 although ideal for our sales people > due to being compact and with a nice huge screen, only has an easily > damagable external floppy drive..., not ideal for sales people. > > I'm thinking very strongly of the Tecra CDT as a replacement to the > TP 760 as the features seem to be comparable.. 12.1 TFT Screen, 6X CDROM > Pentium 120 Processor, 1.2 Gig HD and 16Mb of memory for the same price > as a 760E P120 with only 8MB memory. > > My problem machine to replace is the TP560. What we require is a machine > with a 12.1 TFT Screen, P90+ Processor, and floppy (CD not needed), and > hopefully from the same manufacturer.. Problem is only IBM seem to make > this type of machine with this amount of features that is as light and > as compact. > > And suggestions? > > Thanks in advance, > > Alex Judd > > > > > Just out of curiosity, why did your company decide to drop the TPs? > > > > I've used both Toshiba and NEC machines before and have got excellent > > support from NEC. I'd not hesistate to pick up a Tecra 500CDT or > > Portege 650 if I could. > > > > Good luck, > > > > John Pham > > > > > >-- End of excerpt from Alex Judd All of our sales people have switched over from the Compaqs and IBMs to the Toshiba 610CT about a year ago and they all loved it. I actually used one for about 3 weeks when I was travelling through 8 Pac Rim countries and didn't have any problem. The only things I missed are the CD-ROM and a bigger screen. I think the 650CT now has a bigger screen, faster CPU and bigger hard drives. How about Dells or Samsungs? I've heard the guy who used to head the TPs lines for IBM is now working for Samsung in the notebooks division. It might be hard to get a hold of the Tecra 500CDT unless you have an excellent vendor. I called CompUSA (one of the biggest distributor/reseller here in the States) about 3 weeks ago and was told they had 1000 units in back order which 500 already been sold in advance. They do have TPs in stock thought... ;-) John Pham -- ------------------------------------------------------ | John Pham Phone: (800) 422-7044 | | Lantronix Systems Engr. (714) 453-7107 | | 15353 Barranca Parkway Fax: (714) 450-7226 | | Irvine, CA 92618 USA Email: johnp@lantronix.com | ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 13 11:52:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA053441964; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 11:52:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11771; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 11:51:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Oct 1996 11:51:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11677; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 11:51:01 -0400 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11671; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 11:50:59 -0400 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA00971; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 08:51:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johnp (johnppp.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA12904 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Sun, 13 Oct 1996 08:50:49 -0700 From: "John Pham" Message-Id: <961013085910.ZM16502@johnp> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 08:59:02 -0700 In-Reply-To: Rakkiat Trimahaloek "How to install Merlin to 760CD ?" (Oct 13, 9:11pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0.1 (4.0.1 Apr 9 1996) To: Rakkiat Trimahaloek Subject: Re: How to install Merlin to 760CD ? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Oct 13, 9:11pm, Rakkiat Trimahaloek wrote: > Subject: How to install Merlin to 760CD ? > > Hi all, > > I am now using OS/2 Warp and would like to know if I need the external > FDD adapter to install Merlin. > > The problem is Merlin will be available in Thailand by the end of this > month for English version with Thai version next year. 8-( > > BUT the external FDD adapter is not available at all. I have ordered > mine since May and have not got it yet. The dealer just told me that IBM > can't supply the item. If I can install Merlin without the FDD case, I > will cancel my order. > > Regards, > Rakkiat > >-- End of excerpt from Rakkiat Trimahaloek I've installed previous OS/2 versions and they all required the first 3 floppies from the CD-ROM version. I ordered the external floppy attachment for my 760ELD at about the same time you did and it just arrived 2 weeks ago so hang in there ;-)... I think you could actually create floppies from the CD-ROM and use those to install OS/2, at least prior to 4.0. John Pham -- ------------------------------------------------------ | John Pham Phone: (800) 422-7044 | | Lantronix Systems Engr. (714) 453-7107 | | 15353 Barranca Parkway Fax: (714) 450-7226 | | Irvine, CA 92618 USA Email: johnp@lantronix.com | ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 13 12:05:29 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA055182729; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 12:05:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12820; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 12:04:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Oct 1996 12:02:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12603; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 12:02:01 -0400 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12595; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 12:01:57 -0400 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA02014; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 09:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johnp (johnppp.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA13330 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Sun, 13 Oct 1996 09:01:45 -0700 From: "John Pham" Message-Id: <961013091006.ZM16502@johnp> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 09:10:01 -0700 In-Reply-To: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) "Flash Upgrade for PPI 28.8 modem" (Oct 13, 3:01pm) References: <32610304.2162193@news.enteract.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0.1 (4.0.1 Apr 9 1996) To: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) Subject: Re: Flash Upgrade for PPI 28.8 modem Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Oct 13, 3:01pm, epbrown wrote: > Subject: Flash Upgrade for PPI 28.8 modem > I've got the Practical Perpipherals ProClass 28.8 EZ-Port, and it's > supposed to be upgradeable to 33.6 with a Flash-ROM from PPI. Well, I'm > wondering if anyone has done this successfully? I've tried about a dozen > times and the thing hangs my system in DOS, or I have to kill the task > under Win95. It hangs while searching for the com port, usually. If I > input the com port and irq, it just hangs after starting. I've waited a > couple of minutes for the thing with no messages. Has anyone heard if the > thing doesn't work? > epbrown > epbrown@enteract.com > Laptop Central > http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown >-- End of excerpt from epbrown I used to have one of those modems about 3 months ago and did upgraded the flash rom successfully a couple of times. I actually upgraded it in regular DOS with all neccessary PC card drivers loaded and used the PPI modem enabler to assign a com port before the upgrade. I now have 2 Hayes Optima v.34 PC Cards and they both been upgraded successfully to 33.6 last week using a similar method with Hayes modem enabler. Since Hayes owned PPI, they both use similar firmware and software for their modems. Everytime there's something new for the Hayes, it'll be available for the PPI as well or vice versa. These are DOS programs so I don't think they'll be happy with Win95. The Cardinal upgrade program is Windows based and it worked in Win95 which made my life a little bit easier. John Pham -- ------------------------------------------------------ | John Pham Phone: (800) 422-7044 | | Lantronix Systems Engr. (714) 453-7107 | | 15353 Barranca Parkway Fax: (714) 450-7226 | | Irvine, CA 92618 USA Email: johnp@lantronix.com | ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 13 12:55:50 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA060815749; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 12:55:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15870; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 12:54:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 13 Oct 1996 12:51:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15719; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 12:51:28 -0400 Received: from ts83.pcug.org.au (ts83.pcug.org.au [203.10.76.83]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15700; Sun, 13 Oct 1996 12:51:06 -0400 From: Received: by ts83.pcug.org.au (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 2.0/2.12um) id CAA000.65; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 02:51:04 -0400 Message-Id: <199610140651.CAA000.65@ts83.pcug.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 96 02:47:54 +1000 To: johnp@lantronix.com, rakkiat@mozart.inet.co.th Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: How to install Merlin to 760CD ? X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <56_137_4_845275674> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > I am now using OS/2 Warp and would like to know if I need the external > > FDD adapter to install Merlin. No you don't. Well not is you have a few megs of HD space about. Your TP760CD users handbook gives a procedure for installing Warp v.3 without having access to both a floppy drive and CDROM drive simultaneously. It worked for me when I installed Merlin. > I've installed previous OS/2 versions and they all required the first 3 > floppies from the CD-ROM version. I ordered the external floppy > attachment for my 760ELD at about the same time you did and it just > arrived 2 weeks ago so hang in there ;-)... > > I think you could actually create floppies from the CD-ROM and use those > to install OS/2, at least prior to 4.0. You can but you don't have to! :) /************************************************/ /* | Scuba Diving: */ /* Neil Mclean | Down Under in a */ /* Canberra, Australia | Land Down Under */ /************************************************/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 00:24:38 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA158837077; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 00:24:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29918; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 00:23:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 00:11:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28986; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 00:11:43 -0400 Received: from relay7.UU.NET (relay7.UU.NET [192.48.96.17]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28966; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 00:11:35 -0400 Received: from rocky.summa4.com by relay7.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: rocky.summa4.com [206.67.6.1]) id QQblim16422; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 00:11:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sherman.summa4.com ([192.9.201.6]) by rocky.summa4.com via smtpd (for relay7.UU.NET [192.48.96.17]) with SMTP; 14 Oct 1996 04:10:03 UT Received: from summa4.summa4.com (summa4-b.summa4.com [192.9.201.50]) by Summa4.COM (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id AAA03039 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 00:10:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kend@localhost) by summa4.summa4.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id AAA13920; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 00:10:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 00:10:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ken D'Ambrosio" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Mwave Modem - dialtone recognition ??? In-Reply-To: <199610122336.XAA29296@smtp-gw01.ca.us.ibm.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Actually, sending an ATX1DT 9,whatever should do the job; ATX1 disables dial-tone recognition. Have at. Ken On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Clarence C.Collins wrote: > I am not sure if this will help you, but I think the answer to your problem > is in the tel# line. > try this if you haven't already done so, "9,,,XXX-XXXX " the commas will > force the modem to dial for your outside line, then pause, pause, pause > then dial the tel.# > It's recommended when using PBX. > > Clarence. > > ---------- > > From: Tony Staples > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Subject: Mwave Modem - dialtone recognition ??? > > Date: Tuesday, October 08, 1996 6:11 AM > > > > I have a new (to me) 760C, running Win95, with the MWave modem. The > > modem works fine on a conventional analog line such as at my home, but > > I m having difficulty with it at work. I have an analog line, coming > > from an SRX pbx system, and the MWave modem will not recognize the > > initial dial tone. The line has a higher pitched dial tone when you > first > > go off hook. After a 9 is dialed, to reach an outside line, the > > dialtone drops to the conventional tone. The MWave modem will not > > dial any digits that are entered, as it does not recognize the initial > > dial tone as being valid. I only get an error message saying that no > > dialtone was detected, and to ensure the modem is plugged in . . . > > yada, yada, yada. > > > > I normally use a Hayes Optima 288 PCMCIA, and a USR Courier on this > > same line without any grief. I have looked through the online > > documentation for the MWave, and I cannot find any AT command settings > > that will force the modem to dial the initial 9 to get the > > conventional tone, or to just ignore the tone, an dial blindly. I > > have upgraded to all the latestbios and drivers, from the IBM web site, > for > > MWave, and everything else. I have also applied Service Pack 1, > > and all the Win95 patches eleased since service pack 1, as posted on > > the Microsoft Win95 web site. None of these upgrades affected the > > MWave modem's ability to detect my pbx's dial tone, although they did > > solve another anomaly I was experiencing with dial up networking not > > remembering my password. Any input into solving this one is greatly > > appreciated. > > -Tony Staples > > tstaples@sprintmail.com <---NOTE: NEW ADDRESS > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 09:08:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA221468482; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:08:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07835; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:06:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:01:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07330; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:01:45 -0400 Received: from venus.teamquest.com (venus.teamquest.com [199.120.249.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07317; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:01:37 -0400 From: Received: from SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com (smtpgtwy.teamquest.com [199.120.249.99]) by venus.teamquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA14398 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 13:05:29 GMT Received: from cc:Mail by SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com id AA845305526; Mon, 14 Oct 96 08:01:16 CST Date: Mon, 14 Oct 96 08:01:16 CST Encoding: 26 Text Message-Id: <9609148453.AA845305526@SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Introduction/IBM/NT4.0 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello. I'm new to this list and am a support person for laptops among other things at our company. Supporting 720,750,755,and 760's. We buy Thinkpads as we add more people to our sales force. I agree that IBM has a problem with consistency between models. But one very important thing has proven to be consistent in our case (consistently good that is), and that is their support. I would be interested to hear if other laptop mfgrs. are as good. Everytime I have had to get a system repaired, they sent a shipping box to me overnight, and had the system back to me in less than 5 days. No hassles. I have always been able to get a support person on the phone when needed too. No long hold times. That's very important to me. One more note. I did a NT 4.0 install on a 760CD. Went much better than expected, but definitely need more than 16mb. The CD,modem,xj10bt ethernet card all worked fine. But a problem I haven't solved, but really haven't worked on yet, is getting it to play wave files. Any experiences on this? Also, with 16mb installed, NT 4.0 took exactly 5 minutes to restart. After I upgraded to 32mb it took around 2.5 or 3 minutes to restart. Once it's booted, it's fairly decent to use. But could still use a little more speed. I thought I read about a cache upgrade for the 760cd. Is it possible? What does it cost? Any other ideas? Thanks. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 09:52:07 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA226571127; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:52:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11307; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:49:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:46:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10996; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:46:06 -0400 Received: from enteract.com (root@enteract.com [206.54.252.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10986; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:46:01 -0400 Received: from blue (blue.sa.enteract.com [206.54.253.122]) by enteract.com (8.8.Beta.6/8.7.6) with SMTP id IAA07283 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 08:45:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610141345.IAA07283@enteract.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Gene J" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 08:48:20 +0000 Subject: Re: pcmcia modem models: XJack Reply-To: blue@enteract.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 10:52:27 -0400 (EDT) > From: "John H. Kim" > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: pcmcia modem models: XJack > On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Randy Whittle wrote: > > At 06:30 PM 10/10/96 +0900, Marshall Lai wrote: > > > > > >Don't know about ATT 28.8 but tried out Magahertz XJ2288 and returned it. > > >The card is excellent in terms of ease of installation and throughput. My > > >problem lies with the XJack: The phone cable connector protrudes a little > > >too much to bend my SCSI cable connector......... > > > > If this is an issue for you and you still want the Megahertz, they > > *do* have a "corded" version without the XJack. I have the corder version of the Megahertz (CC3288) and it does not interfere with my SCSI card (for the external CD ROM). I have a TP701Cs and can in fact close the little pop-out door with the hole in it, the connectors come through nicely. Gene -------------------------------------------------------------- "We have come to this town where lives the cream of American art. And just imagine, I a Premier, a Soviet representative, when I came here to this city, I was given a plan -- a program of what I was to be shown and whom I was to meet here. "But just now I was told that I could not go to Disneyland. I asked: 'Why not?' What is it, do you have rocket-launching pads there? I do not know. "And just listen -- just listen to what I was told -- to what reason I was told. We, which means the American authorities, cannot guarantee your security if you go there. "What is it? Is there an epidemic of cholera there or something? Or have gangsters taken over the place that can destroy me? Then what must I do? Commit suicide? This is the situation I am in -- your guest. For me the situation is inconceivable. I cannot find words to explain this to my people." -- A 1959 speech by Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev after he wanted to go to Disneyland but was denied permission because security officials could not guarantee his safety. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 10:08:07 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA228242086; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 10:08:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12634; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 10:01:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:59:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12379; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:59:22 -0400 Received: from mail13.digital.com (mail13.digital.com [192.208.46.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12322; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:59:15 -0400 Received: from mrohub1.mro.dec.com by mail13.digital.com (5.65v3.2/1.0/WV) id AA10449; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:50:04 -0400 Received: by mrohub1.mro.dec.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BBB9B5.46CB7A60@mrohub1.mro.dec.com>; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 09:51:31 -0400 Message-Id: From: Gary Henry To: "'Thinkpad List'" , "'Timothy D. Strong'" Subject: RE: Dock2 Windows95 and TP755C Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 07:04:08 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I used hot docking all of the time on my 755CD. A couple of things to check. Make sure that the monitor is NOT set to work only from the VGA port (FN F7 is a 3 way toggle) Make sure that you have APM mode NOT set for 1.0 compatible. If you have any PCMCIA cards try taking them out. I know on my new 760ED I have to take both of them out for it to work, Gary ---------- From: Timothy D. Strong[SMTP:strongtd@engin.umich.edu] Sent: Sunday, October 13, 1996 1:36 AM To: Thinkpad List Subject: Dock2 Windows95 and TP755C Has anyone figure out how to get the 755C to allow for hot undocking from the Dock station for win95. The option shows up in the menu and seems to work but when you pull the machine out there is no way to access it out of the dock. The keyboard and mouse are dead and the screen is blank (however the harddrive is spinning.) ------- Timothy D. Strong strongtd@engin.umich.edu University of Michigan From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 10:27:00 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA230493219; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 10:26:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14452; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 10:17:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 10:14:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13985; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 10:14:32 -0400 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13976; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 10:14:27 -0400 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA16615; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 07:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johnp (johnppp.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA27600 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 07:14:04 -0700 From: "John Pham" Message-Id: <961014072226.ZM16702@johnp> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 07:22:17 -0700 In-Reply-To: "Introduction/IBM/NT4.0" (Oct 14, 8:01am) References: <9609148453.AA845305526@SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0.1 (4.0.1 Apr 9 1996) To: Subject: Re: Introduction/IBM/NT4.0 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Oct 14, 8:01am, wrote: > Subject: Introduction/IBM/NT4.0 > > Hello. I'm new to this list and am a support person for laptops among > other things at our company. Supporting 720,750,755,and 760's. We buy > Thinkpads as we add more people to our sales force. > > I agree that IBM has a problem with consistency between models. But > one very important thing has proven to be consistent in our case > (consistently good that is), and that is their support. I would be > interested to hear if other laptop mfgrs. are as good. Everytime I > have had to get a system repaired, they sent a shipping box to me > overnight, and had the system back to me in less than 5 days. No > hassles. I have always been able to get a support person on the phone > when needed too. No long hold times. That's very important to me. > > One more note. I did a NT 4.0 install on a 760CD. Went much better > than expected, but definitely need more than 16mb. The > CD,modem,xj10bt ethernet card all worked fine. But a problem I > haven't solved, but really haven't worked on yet, is getting it to > play wave files. Any experiences on this? > > Also, with 16mb installed, NT 4.0 took exactly 5 minutes to restart. > After I upgraded to 32mb it took around 2.5 or 3 minutes to restart. > Once it's booted, it's fairly decent to use. But could still use a > little more speed. I thought I read about a cache upgrade for the > 760cd. Is it possible? What does it cost? Any other ideas? > Thanks. > >-- End of excerpt from I would have to disagree with you regarding IBM's products quality and support based on my personal experiences with them during the last few months. I've gotten much better support and quality products from NEC for their high end Versa lines. When I or my company paid $5 - $6K for a machine, I expected it to be more reliable than what I've seen. I'm running NT/WS 4.0 on a 760ELD with only 16MB RAM (I'm not planning to spend more money on this machine). It takes about a minute to start up to the login screen. I guess depends on how many protocols and services that you included in the autostart that it will take more or less time to come up. -- ------------------------------------------------------ | John Pham Phone: (800) 422-7044 | | Lantronix Systems Engr. (714) 453-7107 | | 15353 Barranca Parkway Fax: (714) 450-7226 | | Irvine, CA 92618 USA Email: johnp@lantronix.com | ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 11:19:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA237116338; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 11:18:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19591; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 11:07:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 11:03:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19000; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 11:03:16 -0400 Received: from relay4.UU.NET (relay4.UU.NET [192.48.96.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18994; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 11:03:10 -0400 Received: from offramp.dsccc.com by relay4.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: camelot.dsccc.com [192.245.102.21]) id QQblke22620; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 11:02:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by offramp.dsccc.com (5.67b/SMI-V1.8) id AA17715; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 10:04:36 -0500 Received: from onramp(192.245.102.129) by offramp via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma017618; Mon Oct 14 10:03:59 1996 Received: from imtn.tpd.dsccc.com (nps001.imtn.tpd.dsccc.com [101.64.2.99]) by camelot.dsccc.com (8.6.11/8.6.10) with ESMTP id KAA25833 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 10:02:54 -0500 Received: from tps036.imtn.tpd.dsccc.com (tps036.imtn.tpd.dsccc.com [101.64.2.202]) by imtn.tpd.dsccc.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id KAA18155 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 10:02:54 -0500 Received: from localhost by tps036.imtn.tpd.dsccc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02003; Mon, 14 Oct 96 10:02:52 CDT Message-Id: <9610141502.AA02003@tps036.imtn.tpd.dsccc.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Need (urgent): system board for PS/Note 425 (or ThinkPad 350) From: tmcwater@imtn.tpd.dsccc.com Reply-To: tmcwater@imtn.tpd.dsccc.com X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 10:02:52 -0500 Sender: tmcwater@tps036.imtn.tpd.dsccc.com Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am in need of a replacement system board for an IBM PS/Note 425. This unit is more or less identical to the ThinkPad 350. I believe that the "PS/Note" was what IBM was calling their laptop line before they decided on the "ThinkPad" name. Anyway, my system board is at least partially dead. During the boot sequence, I get a message about "Error 117 -- System Board Failure". I can continue to boot normally, but my floppy drive is not accessable, and I've had some random lockup problems. I've called my local IBM service rep, and they said that it's definetly not the floppy, but the system board. Aparently the error code would be different if the floppy drive itself were broken. They quoted me around $400 for the system board and $150 labor to install it. For one, I can install it myself, and for another I've seen these units selling for around $400 whole and working. I called IBM's customer service people and (after about half a day of telephone-hold-hell and cross-references) I now have the IBM part number for the system board and another part number that should be a drop in replacement. The prices were in the $250-$350 range, but they are on backorder and won't be avaliable for some time. I simply can't wait that long. So now I've joined this list in the hope that perhaps someone would have an old PS/Note 425 or ThinkPad 350 or other similar system sitting around unused, or maybe it has a dead HD or cracked screen and I can put them together to make one good system. I'll gladly pay fair market value for a working system (with accessories even) to get the system board that I need. The way I see it, I'd have to pay about that much anyway, and this way I get some extra parts in the deal. Of course if someone just happens to deal in Thinkpad system boards, I'd be happy to buy only what I need. That's my story. Also, if any of you want info on the PS/Note 425 (or TP 350), I've got LOTS of it stored up from my research. I've got IBM part numbers for all of the sub-componets (screen, kbd, hd, fd, etc), phone numbers to call if you want to by-pass the telephone-maze and get to someone useful, and other stuff I've learned on my way. -- Travis McWaters Transmission Products Division tmcwater@imtn.tpd.dsccc.com DSC Communications Corporation From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 12:06:24 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA243109181; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:06:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24673; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 11:58:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 11:55:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24412; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 11:55:25 -0400 Received: from island.amtsgi.bc.ca (island.islandnet.com [198.53.172.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24399; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 11:55:18 -0400 Received: by island.amtsgi.bc.ca (Smail3.1.29.1) id m0vCp4v-000Fe1C for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 14 Oct 96 08:37 PDT From: jberry@islandnet.com (Jonathan Berry) To: jberry@islandnet.com Subject: New phone, email address for Jonathan Berry Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 08:05:11 -0700 Organization: Church of the Eternal Pawn Message-Id: Lines: 25 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu As of October 19, 1996, my phone will be (250) 753-5868 not the same number with a (604) prefix. If you forget, the old number should still be good through 6 months into the changeover. The change applies to all numbers in BC outside "the lower Mainland" If you have sent anything to my old address: jberry@bbs.sd68.nanaimo.bc.ca < old address, no good! since August 4th, I likely haven't seen (and cannot see) it. Please send future correspondence to: jberry@islandnet.com School District 68, which provided a free and excellent text-based system, announced that they would be upgrading / replacing it "for better service to everyone" in July. "I should have guessed" right then and sent a version of this letter. They didn't start the project until August, and I guess the new system has security holes (which the old system had blocked, if not always elegantly, after several years of experience), because they have shut down public access. Sic transit gloria mundi. Jonathan Berry From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 17:05:54 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA284297150; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:05:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24203; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:56:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:50:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23578; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:50:46 -0400 Received: from ankur.bellcore.com (ankur.bellcore.com [192.4.7.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23517; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:50:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ankur.bellcore.com (8.6.9/8.6.10) with SMTP id QAA10001; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:44:36 -0400 Message-Id: <199610142044.QAA10001@ankur.bellcore.com> X-Authentication-Warning: ankur.bellcore.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: hira@bellcore.com Subject: problem booting win95 under LILO (linux) from the second hard disk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:44:36 -0400 From: Hiralal Agrawal Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have win95 installed on the primary hard disk (1.2 Gig) of my TP760CD and Linux installed on the secondary hard disk (720 Meg). When I try to boot from the secondary hard disk (by altering the boot sequence to be HDD-2 followed by HDD-1) and ask LILO to boot win95 from the primary hard disk, it gives me an error that says something like "Invalid system disk" (like the error you get when you try to boot from a floopy drive without a bootable floppy). I can boot Linux from the seconadry hard disk without problem. If, however, I swap the two hard disks and reset the boot sequence, I can boot both OS's: Linux from the now primary hard disk and Win95 from the now secondary hard disk. Does any one know what might be causing the failure in the former set up? I like that setup (Win95 on HDD-1 and Linux on HDD-2) as it minimizes my having to swap HDD's, floppy drive and the cdrom drive (I seldom use the floopy drive and the cdrom drive under linux but use them all the time under win95). I am using slackware linux 1.2.13. I have enclosed my /etc/lilo.conf below. Any help will be greatly appreciated. -- Hira Agrawal. hira@bellcore.com -------------------------- lilo.conf ----------------------- boot = /dev/hda delay = 50 vga = normal ramdisk = 0 # # Boot DOS from Hard Disk 1 (the only PROBLEM case!) # Linux on HDD-2 and DOS on HDD-1, with boot sequence HDD-2, HDD-1 # other = /dev/hda1 label = w1 loader = /boot/any_d.b table = /dev/hda # # Boot Linux from Hard Disk 1 (This case works fine) # Linux on HDD-1 and DOS on HDD-2, with boot sequence HDD-1, HDD-2 # image = /vmlinuz root = /dev/hda3 label = l1 read-only # # Boot DOS from Hard Disk 2 (This case works fine too) # Linux on HDD-1 and DOS on HDD-2, with boot sequence HDD-1, HDD-2 # other = /dev/hdc1 label = w2 loader = /boot/any_d.b table = /dev/hdc # # Boot Linux from Hard Disk 2 (This works too) # Linux on HDD-2 and DOS on HDD-1, with boot sequence HDD-2, HDD-1 # image = /vmlinuz root = /dev/hdc3 label = l2 read-only append = "hdc=700,32,63" # From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 17:46:41 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA290109599; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:46:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28534; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:42:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:40:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28145; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:40:24 -0400 Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28129; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:40:19 -0400 From: Received: from hpbs1479.boi.hp.com by relay.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA111999209; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 14:40:11 -0700 Received: from by hpbs1479.boi.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.4 Openmail) id AA260919085; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 14:38:05 -0700 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 96 14:38:02 -0700 Message-Id: Subject: MWave 33.6 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Item Subject: cc:Mail Text Is there a file or any plans to update the MWave chip in my 760C to 33.6? Thanks Richard Hamel --------------------------- Hewlett Packard Network Server Division Santa Clara, CA USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 17:57:24 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA291890243; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:57:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29534; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:53:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:52:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29330; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:52:16 -0400 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29324; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:52:11 -0400 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id RAA12627; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:52:38 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:52:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Christian Carey To: Hiralal Agrawal Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: problem booting win95 under LILO (linux) from the second hard disk In-Reply-To: <199610142044.QAA10001@ankur.bellcore.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Monday, 14th October 1996, Hiralal Agrawal wrote: > Does any one know what might be causing the failure in [having Windows > 95 on the primary partition and Linux on the secondary partition]? Have you checked out the Linux HOWTO index at http://www.ssc.com/linux/howto.html In the "mini-HOWTO" section are a number of documented multiboot configurations; the one entitled "Linux Linux+Win95 mini-HOWTO" by Jonathan Katz sounds like it'd be on target for you. Its URL is http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/mini/Linux+Win95 The only piece of advice that I can immediately offer is to make sure that your LILO is in your root partition's superblock, and _not_ in the Master Boot Record. Good luck! Christian. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 18:05:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA293220743; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:05:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00494; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:01:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:58:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29961; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:58:27 -0400 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29944; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:58:15 -0400 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA22326; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:51:32 -0400 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199610142151.RAA22326@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: problem booting win95 under LILO (linux) from the second hard disk In-Reply-To: <199610142044.QAA10001@ankur.bellcore.com> from Hiralal Agrawal at "Oct 14, 96 04:44:36 pm" To: hira@flash.bellcore.com (Hiralal Agrawal) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:51:32 -0400 (EDT) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, hira@bellcore.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am assuming that you want to keep Win95 on HDD-1 and be able to hot-swap HDD-2 (Linux) with a CD-ROM. If you do not plan on swapping HDD-1 and HDD-2, then you need to install LILO on the MBR of HDD-1. Your problem is that you're altering the boot sequence, which you shouldn't be doing, unless you want the ability to hot-swap HDD-1 with HDD-2. By changing the boot sequence to start Linux, runing LILO will install into MBR of HDD-2, not HDD-1. You probably have identical LILO configs installed on both disks. If you don't need to hot-swap HDD-1 and HDD-2 (i.e. keep Win95 as primary at all times), then the solution is something like this: 1. Copy /vmlinuz to c:\linux 2. With Win95 on HDD-1 and Linux on HDD-2, use loadlin to boot Linux from DOS with root=/dev/hdc3. You may need to pass the disk geometry. 3. Check from Linux to make sure that DOS is on /hda*. 4. Reconfigure LILO with boot->/dev/hda, dos->/dev/hda1, linux->/dev/hdc3. You may need to add your HDD-2 geometry specs in the append section. 5. Install LILO. If you have multiple Linux partitions on HDD-2, you need to edit /etc/fstab to point to the new device files (don't forget linux swap partition). If you want to be able to swap HDD-1 and HDD-2 and still be able to boot both Win95 and Linux under both boot sequences, then you need to maintain two different LILO configurations installed on both MBR's as well as two different /etc/fstab configurations. If for some reason you cannot use loadlin, you can accomplish the same thing by booting from HDD-2 into Linux, reversing the device files in your lilo config and fstab, installing MBR into HDD-1, rebooting from HDD-1 into Linux under LILO, then reconguring LILO to install into boot=/dev/hda (don't correct any other device file). Hope that helps, Dave. > I have win95 installed on the primary hard disk (1.2 Gig) of my TP760CD and > Linux installed on the secondary hard disk (720 Meg). When I try to boot from > the secondary hard disk (by altering the boot sequence to be HDD-2 followed by > HDD-1) and ask LILO to boot win95 from the primary hard disk, it gives me an > error that says something like "Invalid system disk" (like the error you get > when you try to boot from a floopy drive without a bootable floppy). I can > boot Linux from the seconadry hard disk without problem. > > If, however, I swap the two hard disks and reset the boot sequence, I can boot > both OS's: Linux from the now primary hard disk and Win95 from the now > secondary hard disk. > > Does any one know what might be causing the failure in the former set up? I > like that setup (Win95 on HDD-1 and Linux on HDD-2) as it minimizes my having > to swap HDD's, floppy drive and the cdrom drive (I seldom use the floopy drive > and the cdrom drive under linux but use them all the time under win95). > > I am using slackware linux 1.2.13. I have enclosed my /etc/lilo.conf below. > Any help will be greatly appreciated. > > -- Hira Agrawal. > hira@bellcore.com > > -------------------------- lilo.conf ----------------------- > boot = /dev/hda > delay = 50 > vga = normal > ramdisk = 0 > # > # Boot DOS from Hard Disk 1 (the only PROBLEM case!) > # Linux on HDD-2 and DOS on HDD-1, with boot sequence HDD-2, HDD-1 > # > other = /dev/hda1 > label = w1 > loader = /boot/any_d.b > table = /dev/hda > # > # Boot Linux from Hard Disk 1 (This case works fine) > # Linux on HDD-1 and DOS on HDD-2, with boot sequence HDD-1, HDD-2 > # > image = /vmlinuz > root = /dev/hda3 > label = l1 > read-only > # > # Boot DOS from Hard Disk 2 (This case works fine too) > # Linux on HDD-1 and DOS on HDD-2, with boot sequence HDD-1, HDD-2 > # > other = /dev/hdc1 > label = w2 > loader = /boot/any_d.b > table = /dev/hdc > # > # Boot Linux from Hard Disk 2 (This works too) > # Linux on HDD-2 and DOS on HDD-1, with boot sequence HDD-2, HDD-1 > # > image = /vmlinuz > root = /dev/hdc3 > label = l2 > read-only > append = "hdc=700,32,63" > # > > > -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the ^^ PLEASE NOTE CHANGE ^^ world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 18:09:17 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA293690954; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:09:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01133; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:06:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:04:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00714; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:04:35 -0400 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00708; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:04:29 -0400 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA22335; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:56:24 -0400 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199610142156.RAA22335@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: problem booting win95 under LILO (linux) from the second hard disk In-Reply-To: from Christian Carey at "Oct 14, 96 05:52:38 pm" To: ccarey@CapAccess.org (Christian Carey) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:56:24 -0400 (EDT) Cc: hira@flash.bellcore.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > On Monday, 14th October 1996, Hiralal Agrawal wrote: > > > Does any one know what might be causing the failure in [having Windows > > 95 on the primary partition and Linux on the secondary partition]? > > Have you checked out the Linux HOWTO index at > > http://www.ssc.com/linux/howto.html > > In the "mini-HOWTO" section are a number of documented multiboot > configurations; the one entitled "Linux Linux+Win95 mini-HOWTO" > by Jonathan Katz sounds like it'd be on target for you. Its URL is > > http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/mini/Linux+Win95 > > The only piece of advice that I can immediately offer is to make sure > that your LILO is in your root partition's superblock, and _not_ in the > Master Boot Record. This will be ineffective if Hiralal wants to keep Linux on HDD-2. LILO must be installed on the boot drive, so unless he creates a small root partition on HDD-1 (within the DOS 1024 cylinder limit), his only other options are to use loadlin or install LILO into HDD-1's MBR. Dave. > > Good luck! > > Christian. > -- > Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 > -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the ^^ PLEASE NOTE CHANGE ^^ world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 18:48:19 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA299383299; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:48:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03873; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:38:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:37:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03703; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:37:11 -0400 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (root@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03697; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:37:05 -0400 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id SAA23926; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:34:52 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:34:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Christian Carey To: Dave Ahn Cc: hira@flash.bellcore.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: problem booting win95 under LILO (linux) from the second hard disk In-Reply-To: <199610142156.RAA22335@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Monday, 14th October 1996, Dave Ahn wrote: > > The only piece of advice that I can immediately offer is to make sure > > that your LILO is in your root partition's superblock, and _not_ in the > > Master Boot Record. > > This will be ineffective if Hiralal wants to keep Linux on HDD-2. LILO > must be installed on the boot drive, so unless he creates a small root > partition on HDD-1 (within the DOS 1024 cylinder limit), his only other > options are to use loadlin or install LILO into HDD-1's MBR. Yes, quite true. If Windows 95 will remain the only partition on the boot drive (below the 1024th cylinder), then putting LILO in the boot record won't work. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 18:49:32 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA299483363; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:49:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04241; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:42:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:40:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04094; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:40:52 -0400 Received: from pop.leopard.com ([206.83.112.124]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04085; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:40:47 -0400 Received: from will.leopard.com ([206.83.112.67]) by pop.leopard.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA20296 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:42:51 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961014224029.006818b8@pop.leopard.com> X-Sender: wdunn@pop.leopard.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:40:29 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Will Dunn Subject: ThinkPad Rentals Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Anyone out there renting ThinkPads? I have recently become unhappy with the company I currently use to rent thinkpads (ElectroRent). Thinking about giving my business to someone else I wondered if anyone else can recommend such a vendor. Thanks In Advance. --wwd Will Dunn Leopard Communications Boulder, CO http://www.leopard.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 18:50:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA001153440; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:50:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04856; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:48:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:47:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04693; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:46:59 -0400 Received: from mail.calweb.com (mail.calweb.com [165.90.138.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04685; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:46:53 -0400 Received: from mrcwdnbm.calweb.com (sac1-6.calweb.com account=mrcwdnbm [165.90.187.6]) by mail.calweb.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA03002 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3262C4B6.3D0A@calweb.com> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:54:47 -0700 From: Marc Weidenbaum Reply-To: mrcwdnbm@calweb.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: backup Iomega vs. ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu What do you all use for harddrive backup, in particular 701 users? I was looking at this Iomega Ditto 800. Any feedback (experience with the Iomega, alternates) would be appreciated. Thanks. -- Marc Weidenbaum mrcwdnbm@calweb.com http://www.calweb.com/~mrcwdnbm From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 19:05:56 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA003084355; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:05:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06344; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:04:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:01:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06060; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:01:54 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06046; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:01:49 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (ssh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA22686; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:52:57 -0600 Message-Id: <199610142252.QAA22686@aspen.wwsi.com> To: Will Dunn Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad Rentals In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:40:29 MDT." <2.2.32.19961014224029.006818b8@pop.leopard.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:52:57 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu You might try GE Rents. We've had pretty good experiences with them for lots of systems for the various shows we do. ssh (From the Netscape Developers' Conference in NYC) -- Steve Hultquist, Founder Engineering the future Worldwide Solutions, Inc. ...with you Boulder, Colorado, USA 303.581.0800 http://www.wwsi.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 19:07:00 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA003264420; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:07:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06348; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:04:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:01:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06038; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:01:47 -0400 Received: from utsurg.med.uth.tmc.edu (utsurg.med.uth.tmc.edu [129.106.8.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06032; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:01:42 -0400 Received: from urol29 (urol29.med.uth.tmc.edu) by utsurg.med.uth.tmc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA252823700; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:55:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:55:00 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19961014180506.2f1f89d0@utsurg.med.uth.tmc.edu> X-Sender: hprice@utsurg.med.uth.tmc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Howard Price Subject: Re: backup Iomega vs. ? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I use the Iomega Ditto 3200 for plain backups on a 755CD running DOS and Win31; it's simple (parallel port), does about 10MB/min overall. Anybody tried the Jaz via the parallel port using one of the special convertors available? This sounds like a great approach. At 03:54 PM 10/14/96 -0700, you wrote: >What do you all use for harddrive backup, in particular 701 users? > >I was looking at this Iomega Ditto 800. > >Any feedback (experience with the Iomega, alternates) would be >appreciated. > >Thanks. >-- >Marc Weidenbaum >mrcwdnbm@calweb.com >http://www.calweb.com/~mrcwdnbm > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 19:22:17 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA006175336; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:22:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07591; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:19:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:15:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07363; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:15:52 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07337; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:15:46 -0400 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-e-06.usc.edu [128.125.222.150]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id QAA06753; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961014221527.0072db6c@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:15:27 -0700 To: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Flash Upgrade for PPI 28.8 modem Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 03:01 PM 10/13/96 GMT, epbrown wrote: > I've got the Practical Perpipherals ProClass 28.8 EZ-Port, and it's >supposed to be upgradeable to 33.6 with a Flash-ROM from PPI. Well, I'm How long have you had it, Evan? If recently acquired, my advice (based on personal experience) is see if you can return it as soon as possible and get something made by someone else. My PPI modem(s) (I had many, thanks to warranties) had a *lot* of trouble with the EZ-Port--would stay "clicked" in--and this was 3 different modems. Then there was the nightmare of having those jerks keep charging me for the replacement modems even after I had sent the "old" one in... ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 19:22:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA006245353; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:22:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07593; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:19:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:15:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07299; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:15:40 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07285; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:15:36 -0400 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-e-06.usc.edu [128.125.222.150]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id QAA06796; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961014221533.00723144@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:15:33 -0700 To: mrcwdnbm@calweb.com From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: backup Iomega vs. ? Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 03:54 PM 10/14/96 -0700, Marc Weidenbaum wrote: >What do you all use for harddrive backup, in particular 701 users? > >I was looking at this Iomega Ditto 800. > >Any feedback (experience with the Iomega, alternates) would be >appreciated. An HP SCSI DAT drive. I like it lots. :-) I don't think you'd have much to complain about with the Iomega though. My only beef with backups in general is that I want 'em big enough to do a full backup and preferably some incrementals without having to change the tape. With the size of Hard Drives these days, its tough to do that with a tape that only holds 400 MB raw (that 800 MB stuff is fantasy--you'll never see that on a tape unless the data is highly compressable, which is unlikely. Figure on about 1.5x compresson on tape--so that 400 MB will get aroun 600 MB on it). DAT, on the other hand, while it holds as much as 4 GB raw (DDS2--mine's just DDS which holds 2 GB raw), is much more expensive for the drive, but cheaper on the tapes. My drive cost about $700+ when I got it new a couple years ago (I got a great deal--but I think you can buy these new for around this price today), but the tapes can be had for $8 a piece (compare that to $30 for a Travan tape for your Iomega). Since I rotate tapes and keep archives up to a year beforehand, tape price is a not-to-be-ignored factor, making the cost of the drive somewhat moderated. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 19:47:06 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA010136825; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:47:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09375; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:44:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:43:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09266; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:42:58 -0400 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09258; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:42:45 -0400 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA29854; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johnp (tesu-pc2.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA21831 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:42:27 -0700 From: "John Pham" Message-Id: <961014165113.ZM18590@johnp> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:51:10 -0700 In-Reply-To: Randy Whittle "Re: Flash Upgrade for PPI 28.8 modem" (Oct 14, 3:15pm) References: <2.2.32.19961014221527.0072db6c@scf.usc.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0.1 (4.0.1 Apr 9 1996) To: Randy Whittle , epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) Subject: Re: Flash Upgrade for PPI 28.8 modem Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Oct 14, 3:15pm, Randy Whittle wrote: > Subject: Re: Flash Upgrade for PPI 28.8 modem > At 03:01 PM 10/13/96 GMT, epbrown wrote: > > I've got the Practical Perpipherals ProClass 28.8 EZ-Port, and it's > >supposed to be upgradeable to 33.6 with a Flash-ROM from PPI. Well, I'm > > How long have you had it, Evan? > > If recently acquired, my advice (based on personal experience) is > see if you can return it as soon as possible and get something made by > someone else. My PPI modem(s) (I had many, thanks to warranties) had a > *lot* of trouble with the EZ-Port--would stay "clicked" in--and this was 3 > different modems. > > Then there was the nightmare of having those jerks keep charging me > for the replacement modems even after I had sent the "old" one in... > > ------- > Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net > USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle > "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who > is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet > >-- End of excerpt from Randy Whittle I'd agreed on the problem with PPI's Xjack. We had a few of them and they all had the pins broken after awhile. Since those pins are not straight, it's very easy to get them bend out of shape when removing the phone cord and it only take one time to bend and then you're in trouble. The Hayes Optima are made a little bit better so I have no problem with them so far. John Pham -- ------------------------------------------------------ | John Pham Phone: (800) 422-7044 | | Lantronix Systems Engr. (714) 453-7107 | | 15353 Barranca Parkway Fax: (714) 450-7226 | | Irvine, CA 92618 USA Email: johnp@lantronix.com | ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 20:03:32 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA012907810; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:03:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10561; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:01:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:00:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10324; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:59:59 -0400 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10313; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:59:44 -0400 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA01146; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:59:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johnp (tesu-pc2.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA22726 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:59:29 -0700 From: "John Pham" Message-Id: <961014170814.ZM18590@johnp> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:08:11 -0700 In-Reply-To: "Guy W. Farrell" "Re: Introduction/IBM/NT4.0" (Oct 14, 4:21pm) References: <193E41D4139@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0.1 (4.0.1 Apr 9 1996) To: "Guy W. Farrell" Subject: Re: Introduction/IBM/NT4.0 Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Oct 14, 4:21pm, Guy W. Farrell wrote: > Subject: Re: Introduction/IBM/NT4.0 > > I would have to disagree with you regarding IBM's products quality and > > support based on my personal experiences with them during the last few > > months. I've gotten much better support and quality products from NEC > > for their high end Versa lines. When I or my company paid $5 - $6K for a > > machine, I expected it to be more reliable than what I've seen. > > I've found no better support than IBM, although I have an IBM > certified rep on campus and have never dealt with NEC. 72hrs turn > around with no questions asked is good in my book, Yes I've had > serious problems with ThinkPads, but breakages requiring repairs have > been resolved painlessly. > > > I'm running NT/WS 4.0 on a 760ELD with only 16MB RAM (I'm not planning > > to spend more money on this machine). It takes about a minute to start > > up to the login screen. I guess depends on how many protocols and > > services that you included in the autostart that it will take more or > > less time to come up. > > Have you read the "NT on laptops" posts lately? Everyone says that > NT is a resouce hog. Thats no surprise. Carefull with your > expectations of NT on a laptop. I've seen it running happily (2 yrs > ago) on a 486/DX2-66, but that machine had 512MB RAM and a 9GB > Fast/Wide SCSI hard drive with 4MB RAM cache for the drive. The > drive through put and RAM really help. Maybe that example is a bit > over-the-top, but laptop drives are still piss slow and 16MB doesn't > even allow Win95 to run smoothly. Ziff tests also place most 133MHz > laptops at ~P90 desktop performance. > > Guy W. Farrell > Network Coordinator (860)486-5000 > The UConn Foundation, Inc. (800)269-9965 > U-Box 206 > Storrs, CT 06269-4190 > > E-mail: gfarrell@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu > > Computer Support for Institutional Advancement > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >-- End of excerpt from Guy W. Farrell Well, I'm glad that you're getting good help from IBM. I, on the other hand, have not received the same support that I should be getting. I've posted a message on the comp.sys.laptops a few weeks ago regarding the 760ELD and it was also posted here. So far, I have not received any responses from IBM regarding these matters. Unless they show me otherwise, they will not be in my high list of vendors. Is there anyone from IBM subscribed to this mailing list? As far as NT, I agreed that it's a resource hog and no one in a production environment should be running it with less than 32MB of RAM and a Pentium 120. In my case, it's more for testing purpose than real life use since I use Win95 as my main production environment. John Pham -- ------------------------------------------------------ | John Pham Phone: (800) 422-7044 | | Lantronix Systems Engr. (714) 453-7107 | | 15353 Barranca Parkway Fax: (714) 450-7226 | | Irvine, CA 92618 USA Email: johnp@lantronix.com | ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 20:14:36 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA015748475; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:14:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11343; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:11:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:09:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10976; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:09:15 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10970; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:09:12 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (ssh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA23012; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:13:25 -0600 Message-Id: <199610150013.SAA23012@aspen.wwsi.com> To: "John Pham" Cc: "Guy W. Farrell" , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Introduction/IBM/NT4.0 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:08:11 PDT." <961014170814.ZM18590@johnp> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:13:25 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu John, It is highly unlikely that you'll get any help from IBM by posting to this list or the newsgroups. If you want help, please call the IBM service number that you got with the machine. While there may be IBM people watching these groups, I suspect they are technical folks and those that own Thinkpads for their own use, and these are certainly not official service channels! ssh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 20:24:48 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA018449086; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:24:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12342; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:22:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:21:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12161; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:21:09 -0400 Received: from smartwall.acuson.com (smartwall.acuson.com [157.226.120.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12153; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:21:03 -0400 Received: by smartwall.acuson.com; id RAA23638; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:11:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from speedy.acuson.com(157.226.1.8) by smartwall.acuson.com via smap (V3.1.1) id xma023624; Mon, 14 Oct 96 17:10:48 -0400 Received: from beeblebrox.acuson.com by speedy.acuson.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11961; Mon, 14 Oct 96 17:18:56 PDT Received: from beeblebrox (localhost) by beeblebrox.acuson.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02494; Mon, 14 Oct 96 17:19:50 PDT Sender: ostrem@acuson.com Message-Id: <3262D8A6.2BE1AB84@acuson.com> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:19:50 -0700 From: Neal Ostrem Organization: acuson.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP701, Dock II and Warp 4 Install Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The README.INS file for Warp 4 has the following statment in section 21.0: IBM ThinkPad 701 ---------------- To Install OS/2 Warp on a IBM Thinkpad 701 while in a docking station, the diskette drive must be attached to the Thinkpad. My question is: How do I make the diskette drive be recognized when the TP701 is plugged into the Dock II and the Floppy drive is attached to the TP701's port? All I get is disk "not installed" errors? -- Neal -- -------------- Neal Ostrem x5815 MS E-4 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 20:30:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA019319403; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:30:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12910; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:28:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:27:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12742; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:27:30 -0400 Received: from babel.enteract.com (babel.enteract.com [206.54.252.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12711; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:27:16 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by babel.enteract.com (8.8.Beta.6/8.7.3) id MAA20145 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from able-4.d.enteract.com(206.54.253.19) by babel.enteract.com via smap (V1.3) id sma020141; Mon Oct 14 12:32:56 1996 From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Flash Upgrade for PPI 28.8 modem Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:27:32 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <3262d9e8.887606@smtp.enteract.com> References: <2.2.32.19961014221527.0072db6c@scf.usc.edu> In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961014221527.0072db6c@scf.usc.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 14 Oct 1996 15:15:27 -0700, you wrote: "At 03:01 PM 10/13/96 GMT, epbrown wrote: "> I've got the Practical Perpipherals ProClass 28.8 EZ-Port, and it's ">supposed to be upgradeable to 33.6 with a Flash-ROM from PPI. Well, = I'm " How long have you had it, Evan? " If recently acquired, my advice (based on personal experience) = is "see if you can return it as soon as possible and get something made by "someone else. My PPI modem(s) (I had many, thanks to warranties) had a "*lot* of trouble with the EZ-Port--would stay "clicked" in--and this was= 3 "different modems. I've received similar responses from lots of people, but I've had mine since January or February. I had to send it in once when the little = prongs inside the jack broke, but since then no problems whatsoever. That may = be because I bought another 701 in July, and they threw in a Megahertz 28.8 cellular capable, and I tend to rotate between the two. The PPI is good for short fast sessions, since it tends to drop the line more often, and = I use the MHz for sessions when I need reliability since it doesn't drop = the line nearly as much, because the PPI seems faster. And then I use the nternal 14.4 when I want to move a download onto my pc card hard drive = as soon as possible. I broke down and called PPI long distance, and their tech said my ROM may be too old to flash, and that they could give me an upgraded modem = for "nominal cost." I'll just wait until MHz posts theirs and see how it = goes. epbrown epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 20:36:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA020329758; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:35:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13461; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:33:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:32:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13307; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:32:27 -0400 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA13296; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:32:18 -0400 Received: from ibm.net (slip166-72-219-108.ny.us.ibm.net [166.72.219.108]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA27871; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:28:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:24:40 -0400 () From: Joshua Hosseinof To: RICHARD_HAMEL@non-hp-santaclara-om3.om.hp.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: MWave 33.6 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Sender: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu There is an 33.6 Mwave version but right now it is still for internal IBM use only by the Mwave developers. They want to work on reducing the amount of MIPS it uses on the mwave chip before they release it to the public because as it stands it would just about max out the mwave on the 755's and 760's. On Mon, 14 Oct 1996 RICHARD_HAMEL@non-hp-santaclara-om3.om.hp.com wrote: > Item Subject: cc:Mail Text > Is there a file or any plans to update the MWave chip in my 760C to > 33.6? > > Thanks > > > Richard Hamel > --------------------------- > Hewlett Packard > Network Server Division > Santa Clara, CA USA > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 20:50:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA025970621; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:50:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14641; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:48:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:47:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14425; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:47:02 -0400 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA14419; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:46:58 -0400 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA04767; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johnp (tesu-pc2.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA25704 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:46:33 -0700 From: "John Pham" Message-Id: <961014175522.ZM18590@johnp> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:55:14 -0700 In-Reply-To: Steve Hultquist "Re: Introduction/IBM/NT4.0" (Oct 14, 6:13pm) References: <199610150013.SAA23012@aspen.wwsi.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0.1 (4.0.1 Apr 9 1996) To: Steve Hultquist Subject: Re: Introduction/IBM/NT4.0 Cc: "Guy W. Farrell" , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Oct 14, 6:13pm, Steve Hultquist wrote: > Subject: Re: Introduction/IBM/NT4.0 > John, > > It is highly unlikely that you'll get any help from IBM by posting to this list > or the newsgroups. If you want help, please call the IBM service number that > you got with the machine. > > While there may be IBM people watching these groups, I suspect they are > technical folks and those that own Thinkpads for their own use, and these are > certainly not official service channels! > > ssh >-- End of excerpt from Steve Hultquist Steve, Thanks for the advice. I've called IBM several times during the last few months and probably got most of their 800 numbers memorized. With the Internet being used by more people around the world to exchange ideas and problems they encountered, I think it's great that I could find out about certain products problems and features by searching for them in newsgroups or mailing lists like this instead of listenning to the marketing hypes that companies put out in ads. Have you seen the recent postings regarding problems with USR modems? At my company, we search the newsgroups for anything that mention our company name to see if it's good or bad and to help peolple who needed it. With people's ability to make their problems known to millions of other users in an instant, I think it's one more weapon in the consumer arsenal and any company whom wanted to stay alive in this global economy should pay closer attention to what the customers are saying. I think I've said enough about this. Sorry if you don't agree but I believe in freedom of speech and open discussions. John Pham From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 14 22:30:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA041736641; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 22:30:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22779; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 22:28:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 14 Oct 1996 22:23:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22381; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 22:23:42 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22362; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 22:23:39 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (ssh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA23289; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:27:54 -0600 Message-Id: <199610150227.UAA23289@aspen.wwsi.com> To: "John Pham" Cc: Steve Hultquist , "Guy W. Farrell" , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Introduction/IBM/NT4.0 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:55:14 PDT." <961014175522.ZM18590@johnp> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:27:54 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu John> At my company, we search the newsgroups for anything that mention our John> company name to see if it's good or bad and to help peolple who needed John> it. With people's ability to make their problems known to millions of John> other users in an instant, I think it's one more weapon in the consumer John> arsenal and any company whom wanted to stay alive in this global economy John> should pay closer attention to what the customers are saying. That's great! And the right thing to do! It's just that most companies that I know about (IBM, Sun, Microsoft, Novell, etc.) do not consider on-line systems part of their formal support channels. Even if they sponsor them (like CompuServe fora). John> I think I've said enough about this. Sorry if you don't agree but I John> believe in freedom of speech and open discussions. I didn't say I disagreed. Only that I think your expectations are unrealistic. Of course, that's your perogative! Cheers, ssh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 15 01:15:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA067866520; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 01:15:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04044; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 01:09:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:58:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03472; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:58:36 -0400 Received: from mail1.deltanet.com (mail.deltanet.com [199.171.190.55]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA03464; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:58:26 -0400 Received: from ana4021.deltanet.com (ana4021.deltanet.com [204.254.68.21]) by mail1.deltanet.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA24958 for ; Mon, 14 Oct 1996 21:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 21:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19961014215729.255fe572@mail.deltanet.com> X-Sender: pepsale2@mail.deltanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Paul Subject: TP701 Hard Drive Caddies Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >At 08:29 PM 10/13/96 +0900, you wrote: >I for one would be greatly interested. Why don't do post detail pricing >info to this list...... >---------------------- >Marshall Lai >Equity Derivatives Research >Goldman Sachs Asia >Email: Marshall.Lai@gs.com > You asked for it, so here it is. This post will be a little long, but please bear with me. We also do CPU, Hard Drive, and RAM upgrades for the other Thinkpads. Those interested in special October pricing on the other Thinkpads please contact me. Those asking specific questions will be answered later individually. Standard Pricing: 540mb HDD $449.00 810mb HDD $649.00 1.3gb HDD $845.00 Maximum HDD for the TP701 is 1.3gb AMD 5X86/100 CPU $499.00 Special Introductory pricing (Through October: 540mb HDD $379.00 810mb HDD $579.00 1.3gb HDD $799.00 AMD 5X86/100 CPU $300.00 (Only with Hard Drive Upgrade) TP701 HDD Caddy Alone $199.00 All Hard Drives will come with the new HDD Caddy. Please feel free to contact me if you have any other questions. 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WEB: http://www.portables.com/pep From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 15 06:16:19 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA108944578; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 06:16:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA05192; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 01:29:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Oct 1996 01:28:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA05086; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 01:28:12 -0400 Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA05079; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 01:28:07 -0400 Received: from runngdog.pr.mcs.net (runngdog.pr.mcs.net [205.164.4.46]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.0/8.8.Beta.3) with SMTP id AAA04666; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:27:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961015052711.006e5598@popmail.mcs.net> X-Sender: runngdog@popmail.mcs.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:27:11 -0500 To: Alex Judd From: Dane Tyson Subject: Re: Thinkpads vs ? Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 14:24 13-10-96 +0100, you wrote: >My problem machine to replace is the TP560. What we require is a machine >with a 12.1 TFT Screen, P90+ Processor, and floppy (CD not needed), and >hopefully from the same manufacturer.. Problem is only IBM seem to make >this type of machine with this amount of features that is as light and >as compact. If you can give a little on screen size (11" rather than 12"), then I think the new Toshiba Portege 650 is the way to go. Dane From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 15 10:04:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA133378232; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 10:03:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14692; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 09:56:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Oct 1996 09:47:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13586; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 09:47:39 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13573; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 09:47:34 -0400 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id IAA08969; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 08:47:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610151347.IAA08969@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 08:47:23 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: More on Enhanced video/755cd Cc: thikpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I tried this but couldn't make it work. It looks like the video-in kinda keeps working, but the video-out stops. When I reverted to the 755CD EV 1.20 install, the output started working again. Could there be something that you did that got missed (or that I missed)? Something funny is going on with my video-in in both cases (755 and 760 drivers) right now. Instead of getting external video in, I get reproductions of the TP screen. Pretty wierd. This is while using Digital Video Director Capture. I just got my TP back from IBM EasyServe. I hope they didn't mess something up...but I don't know what it could have been if they did...Direct video screen capture actually can be neat if it could be better controlled. It looks a lot faster than ScreenCam or similar products. Too bad it's just some system/software glitch. Thanks Mike Redmond PS I have an "older" 755CD with the 486 DX4 processor, not the Pentium version. -------------- At 09:25 PM 9/21/96 -0400, you wrote: >I tried out a hunch and downloaded the enhanced video drivers for win95 >for the 760CD to try out on my 755CD. The video capture card on both of >them is the V7320 so I figured they might work. And in fact they do, and >it gives you an additional feature, an MCI overlay driver which you can >use from win95 media player that gives you a video in window that you can >resize dynamically by just clicking on the corners and stretching it. >There is one caveat however, for some reason you must use your original >V7320APM.EXE driver that is loaded in you config.sys, so before you >install these drivers make a copy of v7320apm.exe under a different name >then copy it back. If you use the one that comes with the 760cd disk, >then the video input window will not work after resuming from suspend >mode if it was open when you went into suspend mode. >The file to get from the IBM ftp site is vetpfw95.exe. >Perhaps if someone from IBM is reading this they could change the files on >the ftp site so that at least the mci overlay driver is included with >755cd dtiver diskette. > >The changes the vetpfw95.exe file will make to your config files are as >follows: > >config.sys: >replaces v7320apm.exe and v7320mgr.exe > >system.ini: >in [boot] on drivers= adds c:\v7320\v7320pnl.dll > >in [386enh] replaces v7320.386 with new version >in [drivers] replaces v7320cap.drv and v7320rdr.drv with .dll versions >in [MCI] ads Overlay=v7320ovl.dll > > >Remember for it to work properly (this was my experience) with >suspend/resume you must use your old v7320apm.exe in config.sys, all the >other files you can let it overwrite. > >Josh Hosseinof >hosseino@yu1.yu.edu > > > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 15 11:13:58 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA143662435; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 11:13:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21341; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 11:08:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Oct 1996 11:04:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20735; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 11:04:01 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20729; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 11:03:59 -0400 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-h-22.usc.edu [128.125.224.22]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id IAA27874; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 08:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961015140336.010b7fd4@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 07:03:36 -0700 To: "John Pham" From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: Introduction/IBM/NT4.0 Cc: Steve Hultquist , "Guy W. Farrell" , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 05:55 PM 10/14/96 -0700, John Pham wrote: >With the Internet being used by more people around the world to exchange >ideas and problems they encountered, I think it's great that I could >find out about certain products problems and features by searching for >them in newsgroups or mailing lists like this instead of listenning to >the marketing hypes that companies put out in ads. Have you seen the >recent postings regarding problems with USR modems? No I haven't. Would you be so kind as to give a quick summary of what's up with them? ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 15 11:17:35 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA144412630; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 11:17:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21954; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 11:13:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Oct 1996 11:11:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21714; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 11:11:32 -0400 Received: from doblegate.doble.com (doblegate.doble.com [204.215.186.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21638; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 11:11:21 -0400 From: Received: from ccMail by doblegate.doble.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 263a8be0; Tue, 15 Oct 96 11:07:42 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 11:06:45 -0400 Message-Id: <263a8be0@doblegate.doble.com> Subject: Re[2]: backup Iomega vs. ? To: mrcwdnbm@calweb.com, Randy Whittle Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, Unfortunely I got turned off to the "toy" tape drives when our company got a 2120 drive. The 2000 series tapes seem to be very flimsy and easy to mess up. At least with the 2120 it seemed like the tape had errors after using them a couple of times and formatting was a 40 minute plus ordeal. The newer ones maybe better. It just seemed like these things are slow. The bigger carts like the 6525 (525 megs) are better but the media cost is expensive. I picked up a workhorse 8mm drive, a Exabyte 8200, and I had good luck with it. The drive lacks some features like fast search, but I picked it up for a good price used ($175) and the media is $5 to $6. The media can hold 2.3 gigs uncompressed. Newer drives can hold more. Another downside is that you need a scsi card, but at least I can backup at about 12 megs per minute. Another problem is alot of backup programs do not support 8mm stuff. All my active computers (including laptop) support scsi. My 8mm drive is external so I can move it around and backup my three computers. 73 Eric ecottrell@doble. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 15 15:30:35 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA183187829; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:30:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14525; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:17:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:11:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13847; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:11:52 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13839; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:11:49 -0400 Received: from lee.market1.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #10) id m0vDEto-001E97C; Tue, 15 Oct 96 13:11 MDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 15 Oct 96 13:11 MDT X-Sender: lee@rmii.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: lee@rmii.com (Lee Stewart) Subject: 755C Display Query Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu We're having a problem with *one* of our 755C's here. When connected to an external monitor, thin vertical lines don't appear as straight lines but as slightly wavy lines. They seem to be perfectly straight on the LCD screen, and the problem happens with two different external monitors which work fine on other machines. My 755C does not have the problem, yet both are using the same drivers and the same settings, etc. Any suggestions on what to look for?? Thanks... Lee Stewart lee@rmii.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 15 15:32:48 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA184067966; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:32:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15269; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:24:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:22:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15062; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:22:54 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15047; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:22:49 -0400 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id OAA00942 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 14:22:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610151922.OAA00942@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 14:22:36 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: IBM 2.1G 17mm in TP 755?? Decision time Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am down to decision time on buying a drive for my 755CD. Has ANYONE ANYWHERE tried and succeded (or failed for that matter) in installing the 2.1G IBM DCRA-22160 17mm drive in a TP 755 machine?? I have been told that the problem may go beyond just the master/slave jumper incompatibility, which seems easy to deal with. If I can't find a definitive answer, the fallback is for the Toshiba MK2101MAN. I would like to have the thin IBM drive for future transfers to thin notebooks...but not if it doesn't work. Thanks Mike Redmond From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 15 15:37:32 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA184928222; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:37:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15799; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:28:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:26:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15658; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:26:53 -0400 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15632; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:26:42 -0400 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA18135; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 12:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johnp (tesu-pc2.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA29317 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Tue, 15 Oct 1996 12:24:58 -0700 From: "John Pham" Message-Id: <961015123343.ZM8758@johnp> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 12:33:39 -0700 In-Reply-To: Randy Whittle "Re: Introduction/IBM/NT4.0" (Oct 15, 7:03am) References: <2.2.32.19961015140336.010b7fd4@scf.usc.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0.1 (4.0.1 Apr 9 1996) To: Randy Whittle , "John Pham" Subject: Re: Introduction/IBM/NT4.0 Cc: Steve Hultquist , "Guy W. Farrell" , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Oct 15, 7:03am, Randy Whittle wrote: > Subject: Re: Introduction/IBM/NT4.0 > At 05:55 PM 10/14/96 -0700, John Pham wrote: > > >With the Internet being used by more people around the world to exchange > >ideas and problems they encountered, I think it's great that I could > >find out about certain products problems and features by searching for > >them in newsgroups or mailing lists like this instead of listenning to > >the marketing hypes that companies put out in ads. Have you seen the > >recent postings regarding problems with USR modems? > > No I haven't. Would you be so kind as to give a quick summary of > what's up with them? > > ------- > Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net > USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle > "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who > is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet > >-- End of excerpt from Randy Whittle The major problem US Robotics is having with Sporters modems involved certain chip set revisions that caused to the modems to stop/pause transmitting or receiving data. From what I gathered, they've been refusing to publicly admit the problem exist which really made the matter worse. John Pham From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 15 15:39:00 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA185148339; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:38:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16633; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:34:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:33:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16452; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:33:05 -0400 Received: from onyx.southwind.net (abcjr@onyx.southwind.net [204.95.83.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16427; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:32:52 -0400 Received: from localhost (abcjr@localhost) by onyx.southwind.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA02186 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 14:30:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 14:30:27 -0500 (CDT) From: "Arnold B. Cavazos, Jr." To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Introduction/IBM/NT4.0 In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961015140336.010b7fd4@scf.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Here is a webpage that documents the problems very effectively: http://www.carabelli.com/dentist/lore/usrincident.html ---------------------------------------------------------- Arnold Cavazos, Jr. abcjr@southwind.net On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Randy Whittle wrote: > At 05:55 PM 10/14/96 -0700, John Pham wrote: > > >With the Internet being used by more people around the world to exchange > >ideas and problems they encountered, I think it's great that I could > >find out about certain products problems and features by searching for > >them in newsgroups or mailing lists like this instead of listenning to > >the marketing hypes that companies put out in ads. Have you seen the > >recent postings regarding problems with USR modems? > > No I haven't. Would you be so kind as to give a quick summary of > what's up with them? > > ------- > Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net > USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle > "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who > is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 15 18:18:50 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA213447927; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:18:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00827; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:14:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:10:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00311; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:09:58 -0400 Received: from notab.mmm.com ([130.99.86.204]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00304; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:09:54 -0400 Received: (from bkasten@localhost) by notab.mmm.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA13323 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 17:08:12 -0500 From: "Robert B. Kasten" Message-Id: <199610152208.RAA13323@notab.mmm.com> Subject: TP 760ED To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 17:08:11 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: rbkast@ibm.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I saw the "new" 760ED today. It's not the same 760ED I have seen previously. This is the U9A model, FWIW. It has a special pad covering the area where the 760's get hot. It has a special lock over the removable ram door, and it finally has the 1024x768x16bit display (on the LCD). Very nice. I just wish I had it instead of my 760E :( Bob Kasten From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 15 19:10:59 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA221791058; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 19:10:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04587; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 19:08:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 15 Oct 1996 19:06:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04448; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 19:06:54 -0400 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04441; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 19:06:36 -0400 Received: from marziani.execpc.com (marziani.execpc.com [169.207.12.205]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.7.6/8.7.5) with SMTP id NAA04618 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 13:06:42 -0500 Message-Id: <32643561.6FE1@emjay.com> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:07:45 -0700 From: Tom Kustner Organization: Emjay Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: IBM issues new slew of ThinkPads, including an NT version (InfoWorld) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > IBM issues new slew of ThinkPads, including an NT version > > [Image] > By Carolyn A. April > InfoWorld Electric > [Image] > Posted at 11:25 AM PT, Oct 15, 1996 > IBM PC Corp. on Tuesday pulled the curtains back on new [Image] > mid- and high-end ThinkPad notebook computers, debuting > one model with pre-loaded Windows NT Workstation and [Image] > another with the 150-MHz Pentium processor. > [Image] > Along with overhauling to faster processors, roomier hard > drives and enhanced multimedia, IBM officials said the > product roll-out represents a shift in distribution [Image] > strategy that saw the PC giant uncharacteristically flood > the channel with more than 30,000 new ThinkPad 365s and [Image] > 760s weeks prior to the launch. > [Image] > "We know ThinkPad supply has always been a complaint > against us, and we're trying to address that," said Steve > Ward, general manager of mobile computing at IBM, in > Somers, N.Y. > > The lone exception to immediate availability is the new > ThinkPad 760 EL (model 9547-U4K), the system that is > pre-loaded with NT. That system, which sports a 133-MHz > Pentium processor, 32MB of RAM, 2.1 gigabyte hard drive, > and 12.1-inch active matrix display, will be available to > users in November (pricing is unavailable), company > officials said. > > The reason for the lag time, according to Ward, is so > that IBM can fine tune and fully test the mobile > performance of NT -- particularly in carrying out key > features IBM has taken pains to add, including some power > management and some plug-and-play capabilities. > > In addition, the firm has developed device drivers -- > which will be available on the IBM home page by the end > of the year -- that will allow the NT-based notebook to > support MPEG-2 full-motion video, serial infrared data > transmission, and hardware-based power management. > > IBM's efforts to make NT a suitable mobile platform > mirrors many of its competitors, including Texas > Instruments Inc., Compaq Computer Corp., Toshiba America > Information Systems Inc., and Digital Equipment Corp. > > In response to corporate customer demand, none of the top > notebook purveyors seem content to wait for Microsoft > Corp. to add mobile essentials like Plug and Play and > full power management into the next version of NT. > > But many, including IBM, have worked with the software > giant on interim solutions. Said Ward: "We've > collaborated to ensure the best performance between their > operating system and our machine." > > Included in this week's ThinkPad announcement are seven > new models in the value- to mid-priced 365 series, and > six new models in the high-end 760 line. > > A sample of those models follows: > > * ThinkPad 760E: 150-MHz Pentium processor, 16MB of Ram, > 256KB of Level 2 cache, PCI bus architecture, 12.1-inch > active matrix XGA screen, 2.1-gigabyte hard drive, 2MB of > video RAM, two Type II or one Type III PC card slots, and > PC Card Bus. It is priced at $5,699. > > * ThinkPad 760ED: 133-MHz Pentium processor, 16MB of RAM, > 256KB of Level 2 cache, 12.1-inch active matrix SVGA > screen, 1.2 gigabyte hard drive, quad-speed CD-ROM drive, > 2MB of video RAM, and two Type II or one Type III PC card > slot. It is priced at $5,399. > > * ThinkPad 365X: 133-MHz Pentium processor, 8MB of RAM, > 1.08 gigabyte hard drive, 11.3-inch dual scan SVGA > screen, 1MB of video RAM, and two Type II or one Type III > PC card slots. It is priced at $2,499. > > IBM can be reached at http://www.ibm.com/. > Go to http://www.infoworld.com to see this article. Is that price on the 760ED correct? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay's. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 16 00:32:57 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA272350376; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:32:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28187; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:29:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:23:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27443; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:23:55 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27431; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:23:51 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (ssh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA25832; Tue, 15 Oct 1996 22:27:46 -0600 Message-Id: <199610160427.WAA25832@aspen.wwsi.com> To: rbkast@ibm.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 760ED In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 15 Oct 1996 17:08:11 CDT." <199610152208.RAA13323@notab.mmm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 22:27:45 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >>>>> "bob" == Robert B Kasten writes: bob> I saw the "new" 760ED today. It's not the same 760ED I have seen bob> previously. This is the U9A model, FWIW. Wow! Where did you see it? How do I get one?!?! ssh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 16 00:40:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA273880802; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:40:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29031; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:38:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:37:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28915; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:37:33 -0400 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28893; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:37:28 -0400 Received: from ibm.net (slip166-72-219-162.ny.us.ibm.net [166.72.219.162]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA24952; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:37:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:33:33 -0400 () From: Joshua Hosseinof To: Michael Redmond Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: More on Enhanced video/755cd In-Reply-To: <199610151347.IAA08969@cae.wisc.edu> Message-Id: Sender: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I did check out the video out and that is working like normal. That definitely sounds pretty unusual, I have the DX4/100 version as well. I don't there could be any way of getting the picture of whats on the LCD screen in the video capture box of DVP without it being a hardware glitch. You could try cycling between the external CRT and LCD and disabling enhanced video and turning it back on, which might get something to click. On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Michael Redmond wrote: > I tried this but couldn't make it work. It looks like the video-in kinda > keeps working, but the video-out stops. When I reverted to the 755CD EV 1.20 > install, the output started working again. Could there be something that you > did that got missed (or that I missed)? > > Something funny is going on with my video-in in both cases (755 and 760 > drivers) right now. Instead of getting external video in, I get > reproductions of the TP screen. Pretty wierd. This is while using Digital > Video Director Capture. I just got my TP back from IBM EasyServe. I hope > they didn't mess something up...but I don't know what it could have been if > they did...Direct video screen capture actually can be neat if it could be > better controlled. It looks a lot faster than ScreenCam or similar products. > Too bad it's just some system/software glitch. > > Thanks > Mike Redmond > > PS I have an "older" 755CD with the 486 DX4 processor, not the Pentium version. > -------------- > At 09:25 PM 9/21/96 -0400, you wrote: > >I tried out a hunch and downloaded the enhanced video drivers for win95 > >for the 760CD to try out on my 755CD. The video capture card on both of > >them is the V7320 so I figured they might work. And in fact they do, and > >it gives you an additional feature, an MCI overlay driver which you can > >use from win95 media player that gives you a video in window that you can > >resize dynamically by just clicking on the corners and stretching it. > >There is one caveat however, for some reason you must use your original > >V7320APM.EXE driver that is loaded in you config.sys, so before you > >install these drivers make a copy of v7320apm.exe under a different name > >then copy it back. If you use the one that comes with the 760cd disk, > >then the video input window will not work after resuming from suspend > >mode if it was open when you went into suspend mode. > >The file to get from the IBM ftp site is vetpfw95.exe. > >Perhaps if someone from IBM is reading this they could change the files on > >the ftp site so that at least the mci overlay driver is included with > >755cd dtiver diskette. > > > >The changes the vetpfw95.exe file will make to your config files are as > >follows: > > > >config.sys: > >replaces v7320apm.exe and v7320mgr.exe > > > >system.ini: > >in [boot] on drivers= adds c:\v7320\v7320pnl.dll > > > >in [386enh] replaces v7320.386 with new version > >in [drivers] replaces v7320cap.drv and v7320rdr.drv with .dll versions > >in [MCI] ads Overlay=v7320ovl.dll > > > > > >Remember for it to work properly (this was my experience) with > >suspend/resume you must use your old v7320apm.exe in config.sys, all the > >other files you can let it overwrite. > > > >Josh Hosseinof > >hosseino@yu1.yu.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 16 00:43:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA274151001; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:43:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29419; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:42:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:41:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29257; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:41:10 -0400 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29249; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:41:06 -0400 Received: from ibm.net (slip166-72-219-162.ny.us.ibm.net [166.72.219.162]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA25075; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:41:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:37:17 -0400 () From: Joshua Hosseinof To: Michael Redmond Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IBM 2.1G 17mm in TP 755?? Decision time In-Reply-To: <199610151922.OAA00942@cae.wisc.edu> Message-Id: Sender: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu IBM just released today 1.4G and 2.1G drives for the 755 enhanced models (CE, CSE, CD) and all the 760 models - the HD model does vary between some 760 models and other 760 models, so you have to check the product announcement to find the one you need. On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Michael Redmond wrote: > I am down to decision time on buying a drive for my 755CD. Has ANYONE > ANYWHERE tried and succeded (or failed for that matter) in installing the > 2.1G IBM DCRA-22160 17mm drive in a TP 755 machine?? I have been told that > the problem may go beyond just the master/slave jumper incompatibility, > which seems easy to deal with. If I can't find a definitive answer, the > fallback is for the Toshiba MK2101MAN. I would like to have the thin IBM > drive for future transfers to thin notebooks...but not if it doesn't work. > > Thanks > Mike Redmond > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 16 00:57:35 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA275711854; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:57:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00407; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:56:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:54:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00171; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:54:34 -0400 Received: from bnr.ca (x400gate.nortel.ca [192.58.194.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00162; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:54:28 -0400 X400-Received: by mta bnr.ca in /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:54:04 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:53:45 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:53:00 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:53:00 -0400 X400-Originator: /dd.id=1688786/g=rob/i=wrl/s=dickson/@bnr.ca X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/;bcars520.b.425:16.09.96.04.53.45] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: IBM 810MB HD ... From: "rob (w.r.l.) dickson" Sender: "rob (w.r.l.) dickson" Message-Id: <"19429 Wed Oct 16 00:53:46 1996"@bnr.ca> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: IBM 810MB HD on 360Cs Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello: I recently purchased a used IBM 810MB HD to install in my TP 360Cs. The model number is DVAA-2810, and the P/N is 85G8887. This will (hopefully) replace the Quantum Daytona 341 AT/S 340MB drive that I currently have installed. The problem that I have been seeing is that, when I install the DVAA-2810 in the caddy and boot up, I get an I9990305 error code (cannot find startup drive). At first, I thought that there may be a problem with the master/slave designation, but I tried this both with the "standard" configuration and with pin 46 (the right-most pin on the bottom of the drive) bent down so that it does not go into the connector. In both cases, the results were as above. I have also noticed that pin number 25 seems to be missing. This is not the case with the Quantum, and I just gave away the 170MB IBM drive that originally came with the machine (DHAA-2270), so I can't check on that one. By the way, I am running version 1.20 of System Program Services, which includes the fix for the 512MB drive size barrier. I am also running Windows 95, with 20MB of RAM. My questions are: - has anyone been able to get the DVAA-2810 working on a TP 360 or similar machine - if so, what is the trick - is it normal for pin 25 to be missing (I know that pin 20 is supposed to be missing) Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Rob Rob Dickson | DISCLAIMER - The contents of NORTEL Broadband Networks | this message are the sole Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA | responsibility of myself, Phone: (613) 763-4128 | and in no way represent the FAX: (613) 765-4309 | views of my employer. dickson@nortel.ca | From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 16 02:23:28 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA287647007; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 02:23:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA06173; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 02:22:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Oct 1996 02:15:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05225; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 02:15:33 -0400 Received: from nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05202; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 02:15:29 -0400 Received: from rheo-port.pse.umass.edu (actually nscs22p13.remote.umass.edu) by nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with SMTP (PP); Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:14:57 +0200 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961016061453.006694d0@129.13.95.1> X-Sender: ui2k@129.13.95.1 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 02:14:53 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Axel Hartmann Subject: eraserheads for trackpoint Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu hello once again, recently there was a post about the eraserheads for toshiba's fitting on thinkpads... today i got a (junk-)mail from winbook that, come to think of it, isn't so junky after all. first of all it seems to list all of the facts + prices rather nicely. it shows all of the add-on parts, as well as the replacements - batteries, etc. ... and even replacement eraserheads for $3/3... (they picture them im red and in _grey_: show that your thinkpad is individual! ) i wonder if they fit... the phone-number to order: 1-800-709-5676, i still have a few clean originals left, but i thought i'd pass it on, axel ....................................................................... . * * * moving back to Germany on November 19, 1996 * * * . . Axel Hartmann . . Paper : 619 South East Street; Amherst, MA 01002; USA . . Voice : [USA] (413) 253-1404 . . E-Mail : mailto:Axel.Hartmann@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de . . Homepage : http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~Axel.Hartmann . . Mail-Drop : 42.4deg N, 72.5deg W . ....................................................................... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 16 06:52:54 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA023633173; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 06:52:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA00869; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 06:50:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Oct 1996 06:45:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA00599; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 06:45:15 -0400 Received: from cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us (cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us [198.109.120.98]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA00586; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 06:45:09 -0400 Received: from escribaj.mlc.lib.mi.us (libpc129.lib.hfh.edu [150.198.248.129]) by cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us (8.7.3/Merit) with ESMTP id GAA26431; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 06:44:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199610161044.GAA26431@cobra.mlc.lib.mi.us> From: "Joseph Escribano" To: Cc: "Lee Stewart" Subject: Re: 755C Display Query Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 06:40:39 -0400 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu How about the location of the monitor? Sometimes another device such as another ext monitor will cause distortions like wavy lines. Joe ---------- | From: Lee Stewart | To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu | Subject: 755C Display Query | Date: Tuesday, October 15, 1996 3:00 PM | | We're having a problem with *one* of our 755C's here. When connected | to an external monitor, thin vertical lines don't appear as straight | lines but as slightly wavy lines. They seem to be perfectly straight | on the LCD screen, and the problem happens with two different external | monitors which work fine on other machines. My 755C does not have the | problem, yet both are using the same drivers and the same settings, etc. | | Any suggestions on what to look for?? | | Thanks... | Lee Stewart | lee@rmii.com | From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 16 09:42:30 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA043663349; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 09:42:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13375; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 09:38:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Oct 1996 09:36:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13036; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 09:36:07 -0400 Received: from dmog10.bell.ca (dmog10.bell.ca [198.235.69.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13025; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 09:35:53 -0400 Received: from dcoc41.qc.bell.ca (dcoc41.qc.bell.ca [142.119.11.11]) by dmog10.bell.ca with ESMTP id JAA04554; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 09:34:41 -0400 Received: from dcocps.qc.bell.ca (dcocps.QC.Bell.CA [198.235.99.39]) by dcoc41.qc.bell.ca with SMTP id JAA17214; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 09:30:09 -0400 Received: from cmxc5q (cmxc5q.QC.Bell.CA) by dcocps.qc.bell.ca (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA13371; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 09:34:39 -0400 Message-Id: <9610161334.AA13371@dcocps.qc.bell.ca> From: "Eric Trepanier" To: "Tom Kustner" Cc: Subject: Re: IBM issues new slew of ThinkPads, including an NT version (InfoWorld) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 09:36:18 -0400 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I was wondering if this new additionnal NT support (Plug and Play, Power Management, Infrared serial and MPEG II) will only be available for the new ThinkPads coming out, or if it will be also available for current and almost-current machines such as the 760CD? ---------- > From: Tom Kustner > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: IBM issues new slew of ThinkPads, including an NT version (InfoWorld) > Date: 15 octobre, 1996 21:07 > > > > > IBM issues new slew of ThinkPads, including an NT version > > > > [Image] > > By Carolyn A. April > > InfoWorld Electric > > [Image] > > Posted at 11:25 AM PT, Oct 15, 1996 > > IBM PC Corp. on Tuesday pulled the curtains back on new [Image] > > mid- and high-end ThinkPad notebook computers, debuting > > one model with pre-loaded Windows NT Workstation and [Image] > > another with the 150-MHz Pentium processor. > > [Image] > > Along with overhauling to faster processors, roomier hard > > drives and enhanced multimedia, IBM officials said the > > product roll-out represents a shift in distribution [Image] > > strategy that saw the PC giant uncharacteristically flood > > the channel with more than 30,000 new ThinkPad 365s and [Image] > > 760s weeks prior to the launch. > > [Image] > > "We know ThinkPad supply has always been a complaint > > against us, and we're trying to address that," said Steve > > Ward, general manager of mobile computing at IBM, in > > Somers, N.Y. > > > > The lone exception to immediate availability is the new > > ThinkPad 760 EL (model 9547-U4K), the system that is > > pre-loaded with NT. That system, which sports a 133-MHz > > Pentium processor, 32MB of RAM, 2.1 gigabyte hard drive, > > and 12.1-inch active matrix display, will be available to > > users in November (pricing is unavailable), company > > officials said. > > > > The reason for the lag time, according to Ward, is so > > that IBM can fine tune and fully test the mobile > > performance of NT -- particularly in carrying out key > > features IBM has taken pains to add, including some power > > management and some plug-and-play capabilities. > > > > In addition, the firm has developed device drivers -- > > which will be available on the IBM home page by the end > > of the year -- that will allow the NT-based notebook to > > support MPEG-2 full-motion video, serial infrared data > > transmission, and hardware-based power management. > > > > IBM's efforts to make NT a suitable mobile platform > > mirrors many of its competitors, including Texas > > Instruments Inc., Compaq Computer Corp., Toshiba America > > Information Systems Inc., and Digital Equipment Corp. > > > > In response to corporate customer demand, none of the top > > notebook purveyors seem content to wait for Microsoft > > Corp. to add mobile essentials like Plug and Play and > > full power management into the next version of NT. > > > > But many, including IBM, have worked with the software > > giant on interim solutions. Said Ward: "We've > > collaborated to ensure the best performance between their > > operating system and our machine." > > > > Included in this week's ThinkPad announcement are seven > > new models in the value- to mid-priced 365 series, and > > six new models in the high-end 760 line. > > > > A sample of those models follows: > > > > * ThinkPad 760E: 150-MHz Pentium processor, 16MB of Ram, > > 256KB of Level 2 cache, PCI bus architecture, 12.1-inch > > active matrix XGA screen, 2.1-gigabyte hard drive, 2MB of > > video RAM, two Type II or one Type III PC card slots, and > > PC Card Bus. It is priced at $5,699. > > > > * ThinkPad 760ED: 133-MHz Pentium processor, 16MB of RAM, > > 256KB of Level 2 cache, 12.1-inch active matrix SVGA > > screen, 1.2 gigabyte hard drive, quad-speed CD-ROM drive, > > 2MB of video RAM, and two Type II or one Type III PC card > > slot. It is priced at $5,399. > > > > * ThinkPad 365X: 133-MHz Pentium processor, 8MB of RAM, > > 1.08 gigabyte hard drive, 11.3-inch dual scan SVGA > > screen, 1MB of video RAM, and two Type II or one Type III > > PC card slots. It is priced at $2,499. > > > > IBM can be reached at http://www.ibm.com/. > > > > Go to http://www.infoworld.com to see this article. Is that price on > the 760ED correct? > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation > System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. > Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA > Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay's. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 16 11:09:17 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA059108556; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:09:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22279; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:04:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Oct 1996 10:59:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21608; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 10:59:11 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21600; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 10:59:06 -0400 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id JAA00860; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 09:58:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610161458.JAA00860@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 09:58:26 -0500 To: Joshua Hosseinof From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: IBM 2.1G 17mm in TP 755?? Decision time Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thanks for this info. Do you know where I can find the announcement, part numbers and costs? The biggest wildcard is costs. There is now a 17mm, 2.1G drive for the TP755 from somewhere (Sigma?), but it is $1600. That's about $1000 more than the Toshiba...saving 2mm of height isn't worth $1000. There are places that have the IBM DCRA-22160 for about $900. I'm still not sure the 2mm is worth the $300 differential. But if the new drives were guaranteed to work and were around the $900 price, they would be an option to consider. Thanks again... Mike Redmond ----------- At 12:37 AM 10/16/96 -0400, Joshua Hosseinof wrote: >IBM just released today 1.4G and 2.1G drives for the 755 enhanced models >(CE, CSE, CD) and all the 760 models - the HD model does vary between some >760 models and other 760 models, so you have to check the product >announcement to find the one you need. > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 16 11:34:13 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA064400051; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:34:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24554; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:26:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:24:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24249; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:24:20 -0400 Received: from mozart.inet.co.th (rakkiat@mozart.inet.co.th [202.44.200.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24203; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:23:39 -0400 Received: from localhost by mozart.inet.co.th; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/07Nov95-0628PM) id AA17170; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:23:08 +0700 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:23:06 +0700 (GMT+0700) From: Rakkiat Trimahaloek To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: How to install Merlin to 760CD ? In-Reply-To: <199610132154.RAA24768@doppleboch.bbn.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi all, Thank you for all the reply concerning the above subject. I think that I have to copy all Merlin files to HD and then install from there. Or I can use the external FDD and don't need to copy the files to HD. Anyway, I'll get my external FDD case within 2 weeks. 8-) Thank you, Rakkiat From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 16 12:11:18 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA069372213; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:10:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27936; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:01:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:59:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27604; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:59:11 -0400 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27590; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:58:53 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id IAA29660; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:58:49 -0700 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma845481525.029647; Wed Oct 16 08:58:45 1996 Received: from perley-ppp.cadence.com (annex-sj4-36.cadence.com [158.140.31.46]) by cds9258.Cadence.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA00947; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199610161558.IAA00947@cds9258.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: perley@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jones@pyrrhus.pgh.pa.us (David Jones) From: Don Perley Subject: Re: Iomega Zip drive and more Cc: duszenko@wolf.northern.edu, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 02:30 PM 9/5/96 EDT, David Jones wrote: >On the SCSI version: > > One annoying thing about the SCSI version of the Iomega Zip drive >is that it is not strictly SCSI compatible. By that I mean it has two >DB25F sockets rather than using C50F or Mini-Micro High Density >SCSI-2; i.e., only 25 of the 50 lines are being used. This is >probably not too critical if it is the only device on the chain. >Incidentally, you can only select SCSI IDs 5 and 6. On the 50 pin SCSI connector every data signal has it's own ground return (sometimes run in balanced mode). The major difference as far as I know on the 25 pin is using fewer ground lines. Adapters are available. As far as "standard" goes, Apple and Amiga went with the DB25 connector so it is going to be the most common regardless of what's official, as they were the biggest mass market computers to have SCSI as the standard hard disk. -Don Perley perley@cadence.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 16 13:59:25 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA084958737; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:58:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07139; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:51:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:50:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06942; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:50:21 -0400 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06905; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:50:03 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA31566 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:49:27 GMT Received: from slip166-72-219-107.ny.us.ibm.net(166.72.219.107) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma25QDmb; Wed Oct 16 17:48:08 1996 Message-Id: <32651EE9.1E17@ibm.net> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:44:09 -0400 From: Joshua Hosseinof Reply-To: jhosseinof@ibm.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 1.4 & 2.1G Hard drive models Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu IBM doesn't give price info in their product announcements anymore so you have to call them up to find out the price. > Options by IBM: ThinkPad 760/755 Hard Disk Drives > > Announced on October 15, 1996 > HARDWARE Announcement 196-250 > > At a Glance > > The new ThinkPad 760/755 HDDs feature: > > o 2.5-inch form factor > > o 1.4GB or 2.1GB capacity > > o ATA-3 IDE interface > > o 13 ms average seek time > > o MR head technology > > o No-ID sector formatting > > o 100/500 Gs operating/non-operating shock > > o Enhanced power management technology > > o One-year, limited warranty(2) > > For technical support: > > o Call the HelpCenter(R) (800-426-7299) > > or > > o Request technical information via IBM Faxback (800-426-3395) > > > Overview > > Options by IBM extends the life of your mobile systems by announcing > two new exciting upgrade options for ThinkPad(R) 760 and 755 systems. > As your mobile system needs continue to accelerate, you can increase > capacity and enhance the value of your ThinkPad system with a new > high-capacity hard disk drive (HDD) upgrade. The ThinkPad 760/755 > 1.4GB HDD 3L is a super-slim (12.5 mm) profile, 2.5-inch HDD that can > be easily added as a second drive in any ThinkPad 760 Ultrabay, or > used to replace the original drive in any ThinkPad 760 or 755 system. > For extraordinary capacity requirements, the ThinkPad 760/755 > 2.1GB(1) HDD 2X is a low-profile (17 mm), 2.5-inch HDD compatible > with "thick-based" ThinkPad 760 and all 755 systems. > > Both drives incorporate advanced Magneto-Resistive (MR) head and > No-ID sector format technologies developed by IBM. MR heads enable > higher areal densities, thereby reducing the number of disks and > heads for a given drive capacity. > > No-ID sector formatting further increases the storage capacity by > eliminating the overhead caused by the duplicate storage of each data > sector's ID fields on the disk, and uses that disk space for > additional user data. MR head technology, combined with No-ID sector > formatting, enables the drives to deliver high capacity and enhanced > performance in a reliable design. > > These disk drives are ideal for ThinkPad system users with ever > increasing requirements for emerging technologies, new applications, > and data storage. Integrated fax, graphics, Internet, and multimedia > won't be held back by lack of disk space. The mobile system user > does not have to sacrifice desktop storage capacity to stay on the > go. IBM HDDs are designed with key mobility features to meet > customer needs of ruggedness and low power consumption. > > Both ThinkPad HDDs are easily installed and removed by the end user. > One mobile system can be shared by multiple users by giving each one > their own disk drive for personal applications and data. > > IBM's HDD options are designed to balance the requirements of > capacity, performance, size, enhanced power management, and > ruggedness to meet the exacting standards of the ThinkPad customer. > This is an excellent reason to upgrade your ThinkPad with original > equipment, designed specifically for your ThinkPad's features. > > Intended Customers > > ThinkPad 760/755 users who require desktop storage capacity on their > mobile systems. > > Key Prerequisites > > These new HDDs are supported on selected ThinkPad 755 and 760 models. > Refer to the Hardware Requirements section for specific details. > > Planned Availability Date > > October 29, 1996 > > (1) GB = Billion bytes. Formatted capacities; actual available > capacity depends on operating system installed, if any. > (2) For information on and copies of IBM's statement of limited > warranty, call 800-772-2227 or contact your reseller. > > > > THINKPAD 760/755 1.4GB HDD 3L (69H8412) AND 2.1GB HDD 2X (69H8414) > > Product Positioning: Distribution to customers requiring removable > 2.5-inch HDDs for upgrade or second HDD on ThinkPad 760 and 755 > systems. > > Technical Information > > Performance Specifications > > 69H8412 69H8414 > > Interface ATA-3 ATA-3 > Formatted capacity (GB) 1.4 2.1 > Rotational speed (RPM) 4000 4000 > Data transfer rate (MB/s) > Interface -- > PIO mode 4, DMA-2 16.6 16.6 > Media 4.2-6.74 4.2-6.74 > Average read seek > time (ms) 13 12 > Data buffer size (KB) 96 96 > Number of disks/drive 2 3 > Number of heads 4 6 > BER 1E-13 1E-13 > Disk type Thin film Thin film > Head type MR MR > > > Physical Specifications > > ThinkPad 760/755 1.4GB HDD 3L > > o Approximate height: 12.5 mm (0.5 in) > o Approximate width: 70 mm (2.76 in) > o Approximate depth: 100 mm (3.95 in) > o Approximate weight: 140 g > > ThinkPad 760/755 2.1GB HDD 2X > > o Approximate height: 17.0 mm (0.7 in) > o Approximate width: 70 mm (2.76 in) > o Approximate depth: 100 mm (3.95 in) > o Approximate weight: 186 g > > Operating Environment > > o Temperature: 5(degs) to 55(degs)C (41(degs) to 131(degs)F) > o Relative humidity: 8% to 90% > > Agency Approvals > > o UL > o CSA > o TUV > o EIA > > Energy Star-Compliant: No > > Note: The Energy Star emblem does not represent EPA endorsement of > any product or service. > > Hardware Requirements: The new ThinkPad 760/750 HDDs are supported > on the following IBM platforms: > > ThinkPad 760/755 1.4GB HDD 3L (69H8412) > > Machine > System Name Type Model > > ThinkPad 760 9546, 9547 All > ThinkPad 755 9545 All > > ThinkPad 760/755 2.1GB HDD 2X (69H8414) > > Machine > System Name Type Model > > ThinkPad 760 9546 All except: > x22, 2b, 21, > 2a, 27. x2h, > 28, 2j, 41, > 42, x4a, 4b > > ThinkPad 760 9547 All except: > x01, 0a, 0r > > ThinkPad 755 9545 All > > > Note: A Second HDD Adapter (29H9333) is required to allow for > installation of two HDDs in the ThinkPad 760 Ultrabay. > > Software Requirements > > o IBM PC DOS 7 > o OS/2(R) Warp Version 3 > o MS-DOS Version 6.22 > o Microsoft Windows+ 95 > o Microsoft Windows Version 3.11 > o Microsoft Windows for Workgroups 3.11 > > Compatibility: Refer to the Hardware Requirements section. > > Limitations > > o When a second HDD is in the ThinkPad Ultrabay(TM), it cannot be > formatted by the OS/2 Warp FDISK program after being assigned as > the logical drive. A fix will be provided under OS/2 Warp APAR > PJ19672. > > o Use boot manager when booting OS/2 Warp from a secondary drive. > > o Continuous use of HDD, as in reading long video files, will impact > battery life. > > > Planning Information > > Cable Orders Required: No > > Installation Time: Approximately five minutes > > Packaging: One box > > Shipment Group > > o Drive assembly > o Publication > > > Security, Auditability, and Control > > This product uses the security and auditability features of the > system in which it is installed. > > Terms and Conditions > > Field-Installable Yes > Customer Setup Yes > Warranty: > Period 1 Year > Service Type CCE > Maintenance Agreement No > Optional Upgrade No > Central Facility Maintenance > Service Option (CFMS) No > Licensed Programs No > > > Help and Service Information > > During the warranty period, call 800-426-7299 for technical support, > 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, to answer any questions regarding your > new IBM option. Response time will vary depending on the number and > nature of calls received. If you need warranty service, return or > exchange is available. In addition, if your IBM option is installed > in an IBM computer, you may be entitled to service at your location. > Your technical support representative can help you determine the best > alternative. > > CHARGES > > Contact your IBM representative for charges information for this > announcement. > > > (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines > Corporation in the United States or other countries or both. > + Registered trademark of Microsoft Corporation > > . gopher://gopher.ibmlink.ibm.com:70/0aletters%5C196250.ann From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 16 14:02:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA085248870; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:01:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07091; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:51:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:46:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06644; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:46:11 -0400 Received: from PAULWAL.paulwal.mindspring.com (user-168-121-83-49.dialup.mindspring.com [168.121.83.49]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06334; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:41:52 -0400 From: Received: by PAULWAL.paulwal.mindspring.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.17/2.12um) id AA0059; Wed, 16 Oct 96 13:41:13 -0400 Message-Id: <9610161741.AA0059@PAULWAL.paulwal.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 96 13:34:57 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP760CD, Quantum Europa 1080 - it works! X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <58_137_4_845487297> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, I promised to report on my project to use a Quantum disk drive in my 760CD.... Executive Summary: It works! Details: I bought the Quantum Europa 1080 from GDS (www.westworld.com/~gds/) for $198, including shipping, with the assurance that it would work in my ThinkPad. Conversation: Me: Will this work in my IBM ThinkPad 760CD? GDS: Yeah, no problem. Me: What kind of connector does it have? GDS: The person that knows all about ThinkPads is busy right now. If it doesn't work you can send it back. Me: OK. By the time I received the drive, I had learned a little about caddys, and of course the drive came with the standard 44-pin ATA Bus Connector. By looking through the mailing list archives I found mention of the ThinkPad internal HD mounting kit made by DataStor. They have a web site at www.dstor.com, but the information is sketchy. I ordered the kit from Internet Shopping Network through their web site www.isn.com. It was $65, including shipping. Part number ITR210X. The kit consists of a "U"-shaped aluminum frame with mounting holes in the sides. When installed in the ThinkPad, the bottom of the frame is open ("U" is down). The high-density connector is mounted on two ears and has a wire loop attached as a handle. There is a short (~ 1 inch) piece of flexible conductor attached between the high-density connector and a 50-pin connector. The flexible conductor has a crease in it so that when the drive is installed the conductor is folded double between the end of the drive and the high-density connector. The kit also includes 4 short mounting screws and an instruction sheet. The drive fits perfectly in the frame, the side mounting holes match up, and the screws fit the threads in the drive. The thickness of the entire assembly is a smidge over 19mm. When installed in the 760CD it takes a little more force to engage the right-hand keyboard latch than the left-hand latch. The mounting screws stick out a little from the sides of the bracket, but the assembly fits fine in the ThinkPad. It's about 3mm shorter than the IBM drive. Paranoia points: pp1. The inside of the mounting bracket is bare aluminum. When mounted, the drive's circuit board is not touching the bracket, but it's mighty close. I can slide a sheet of paper between them. The aluminum is thin, and could easily be dented. pp2. The data sheet with the drive shows that the ATA bus is 44 pins (2x22), a 1-pin gap, and 4 pins (2x2) for "factory test points". It states that "Factory test points should remain open after installing the 44-pin connector". The connector in the mounting bracket is 50 pins, and covers all the pins. It appears that there are conductors from the "test point" pins to the high-density connector. Hmmmmmm. pp3. The end of the bracket opposite the connectors is open, and about 1mm of the drive, and circuit board, sticks out. pp4. When installed in the ThinkPad, the drive is upside-down. (does it matter?). The Quantum drive has a jumper on the side to set master (DS), slave (SP), or cable select (CS). A footnote states that if CS is jumpered, then the drive will be a master if pin 28 is grounded, and a slave if it's open. I left the jumper on DS, for master. The jumper is covered by the mounting bracket, so it's non-trivial to change it. Despite the paranoia points noted above, I replaced the 1.2GB drive with this one, turned it on, and booted MSDOS from diskette. I used FDISK to create one primary partition of maximum size. I formatted it as a FAT drive, and CHKDSK showed total space of about 1085MB with 32K clusters. I ran Norton Disk Doctor to do surface analysis and got no errors. The BIOS reports the drive as 60 heads, 589 cylinders, with 60 sectors per track. Miscellaneous statistics: IBM Quantum 1.2GB Europa 1080 FDISK size 1158 MB 1035 MB CHKDSK size 1085 MB Norton SI V8: Average seek 10.88 ms 13.85 ms Data xfer rate 1561 KBps 1503 KBps So, I guess I'll start installing software. Things I didn't try: Cable select - will pin 28 correctly select master/slave in the TP760CD when the drive is moved to the UltraBay with the HD adapter? Paul Walukewicz paulwal@colum.mindspring.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 16 14:22:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA087970123; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:22:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09470; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:16:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:14:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09105; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:13:57 -0400 Received: from indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu [152.11.5.107]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09098; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:13:47 -0400 Received: (from ahn@localhost) by indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id OAA07884; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:09:46 -0400 From: ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu (Dave Ahn) Message-Id: <199610161809.OAA07884@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu> Subject: Re: TP760CD, Quantum Europa 1080 - it works! In-Reply-To: <9610161741.AA0059@PAULWAL.paulwal.mindspring.com> from "paulwal@colum.mindspring.com" at "Oct 16, 96 01:34:57 pm" To: paulwal@colum.mindspring.com Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:09:46 -0400 (EDT) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL27 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > pp4. When installed in the ThinkPad, the drive is upside-down. > (does it matter?). I recall reading on comp.periph.scsi that most modern disks are designed to run fine in every conceivable drive orientation except upside-down (including partially upside-down at an angle) so long as the orientation stays the same during use. Using a disk in an upside-down orientation results in extra stress on the bearing mechanisms, causing a shorter disk life. I do not know if this is actually true. You should note that some IDE/EIDE drives may appear upside-down when they in fact are not. EIDE 3.5" disks sometimes had the PCB on top of the casing as opposed to the bottom like on SCSI disk. Dave. -- Dave Ahn, ahn@indigo2.rad.bgsm.edu "When you were born you cried, and the world rejoiced. Try to live your life Medical Visualization Lab, Radiology, so that when you die you will rejoice, Bowman Gray School of Medicine and the world will cry." -1/2 jj^2 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 16 14:22:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA088050138; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:22:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08016; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:01:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:59:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07681; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:59:10 -0400 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07654; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:58:48 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu (yu1.yu.edu [129.98.200.100]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA10853 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:58:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA30572; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:57:08 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:57:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinof To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: New 760E/ED info Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu IBM ThinkPad 760E/ED -- New Models Announced on October 15, 1996 HARDWARE Announcement 196-271 At a Glance Key features of the ThinkPad 760E and 760ED include: o 133MHz Pentium processor with L2 cache or a low-power consumption, leading-edge Pentium 150MHz with L2 cache o Compact system for customers who need the highest level of processing power in a mobile form factor o Storage capacity of 2.1GB on the hard disk drive o Increased display resolution with the new 12.1-inch (measured diagonally) XGA resolution (1024 x 768) TFT LCD o Optional CD-ROM for increased function standard in the 760ED o PCI bus support of 32-bit transfers for faster performance o Internal MWAVE DSP providing a modem of up to 28.8 Kbps and other telephony functions(3) o Docking capability with your choice of IBM docking solutions o 16MB of system memory standard; upgradeable to 80MB with IBM memory and up to 104MB with ThinkPad Proven vendor optional memory o HelpCenter(R) (800-772-2227) Overview The new ThinkPad(R) 760E or ED -- with its large 12.1-inch (measured diagonally) XGA(R) (1024 x 768) TFT display and the styling of the tilted keyboard with built-in palm rest -- introduces you to IBM's latest edition of the ThinkPad 760 family. Add to that a fast Pentium 133MHz(1) or 150MHz(1) processor both with L2 cache, full PCI architecture, large-capacity hard disk storage (maximum of 2.1GB(2) with one hard disk drive (HDD) and much more storage with an optional second HDD), media processor (MWAVE(R) Digital Signal Processor (DSP)), dual infrared (IR) transceivers, 64K color support, highly functional ThinkPad Ultrabay(TM), and preinstalled Microsoft Windows+ 95 plus selected applications -- you have everything you need, and more, in a compact, light-weight notebook. These new ThinkPad models emphasize faster performance and advanced function. This function includes the integrated media processor (MWAVE DSP) providing stereo audio support, .WAV and MIDI audio support, integrated (up to 28.8 Kbps) data/fax modem support, full-feature telephony support (speakerphone and telephone answering machine), and a slide volume control. Additional function also includes integrated IR for wireless data/file transfer. System memory is a base of 16MB and can be expanded to 104MB using ThinkPad Proven(TM) vendor optional memory. The 760E systems can be upgraded with an optional CD-ROM at any time to increase their functionality. Consider the ThinkPad 760ED with Pentium 133MHz system solution if you need more advanced and integrated multimedia capability -- CD-ROM, audio, and video combined. The integrated, removable 6X CD-ROM drive (150/900 Kbps), Total Image Video(TM) with MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 Half Horizontal Resolution (HHR) support, stereo speakers, TheaterSound (MIDI Wave Table Audio), and other features make the ThinkPad 760ED MPC-2 compliant, setting it apart from less integrated multimedia competitive systems. The 760E or 760ED system combined with any one of the five IBM docking solutions can easily become your primary personal computer, providing an alternative to a desktop system unit. The ThinkPad 760E/ED models have been thoroughly tested to ensure support of, and compatibility with, the OS/2(R) Warp 4 operating system. Refer to Software Announcement 296-375, dated September 24, 1996, for detailed information about OS/2 Warp 4. Intended Customers The ThinkPad 760E and 760ED systems are for people who require portable computing with advanced and versatile function in any mobile environment. Key Prerequisites These ThinkPad systems come ready-to-use with Windows 95 preinstalled. Availability Date October 15, 1996 (1) Designates the processor internal clock speed only. Application speed will be less. (2) GB equals 1,000 million bytes and MB equals one million bytes when referring to hard disk. Capacity available for end-user may vary. (3) Subject to country PTT homologation approval DESCRIPTION ThinkPad 760 Family Features LCD Display: These systems come with a 12.1-inch (measured diagonally) TFT display with XGA (1024 x 768) resolution. These are bright Active Matrix displays. The TFT display provides superior viewing capability and helps lessen the glare indoors. The 12.1-inch screen provides 35% more viewing area when compared to the 10.4-inch screen and is the largest available on this size notebook computer. .-------------------------------------------------------------. | Video Modes -- 760ED/E 9546 (XGA -- 2MB VRAM) | |------------------+------------------------------------------| | LCD | External Monitor | |-----------+------+------+-------+------+------+------+------| | | TFT- | | | | | | | |Resolution | XGA | 85Hz | i43Hz | 75Hz | 72Hz | 60Hz | 56Hz | |-----------+------+------+-------+------+------+------+------| | 640 x 480| 64K | 16M | NA | 16M | 16M | 16M | NA | | 800 x 600| 64K | 64K | NA | 16M | NA | 16M | NA | |1024 x 768| 64K | NA | 64K | 64K | NA | 64K | NA | |1280 x 1024|256(V)| NA | 256 | NA | NA | 256 | NA | |-----------+------+------+-------+------+------+------+------| |NA = Not available | | V = Virtual screen mode | '-------------------------------------------------------------' Keyboard and TrackPoint III(TM): The keyboard has the familiar layout of a ThinkPad with a function key capability that allows you to quickly access system functions, such as power management control. The keyboard tilts to a comfortable angle for typing when the system is opened, and there is a palm-rest area. If desired, you can adjust the keyboard to have no tilt. The keyboard lifts up allowing access to the UltraBay and the floppy disk drive (FDD), HDD, and battery for quick upgrades or battery changes. The TrackPoint III "drag and drop" function of the click buttons is enhanced. You can lock and hold the buttons in without continuously pushing on them. Processor: Depending on the model, these systems have a Pentium 150MHz or a Pentium 133MHz processor with L2 cache and floating-point decimal providing exceptional performance. All models have L2 cache. Memory: The ThinkPad 760E/ED systems are designed to use new 144-pin, 64-bit EDO SO DIMM, 3 V, non-parity memory. The system comes standard with 16MB RAM. System memory can be expanded up to 80MB without removing existing memory parts. Memory expansion to 104MB using ThinkPad Proven vendor memory requires the removal of the existing Memory Module Adapter and any memory modules that are on it and replacing the adapter with the vendor Memory Module Adapter that contains 96MB of memory. PCI Bus: PCI bus supports 32-bit transfers for faster performance. PCMCIA: The Type III slot can accommodate either two Type I, two Type II, or one Type III PC card. The slot will support the new CardBus(4) PC card, when available. If additional PCMCIA cards are required, the optional ThinkPad PCMCIA cartridge can be placed in the ThinkPad 760 family UltraBay, providing an additional Type III slot. (4) Presently available in DOS and Windows 3.1 only. IBM PC Card Director software is preinstalled. This software makes simple work of installing many PCMCIA cards, allowing you to simply plug in the card and use it. PC Card Director with Auto Configurator and Memory Device Driver: PC Card Director helps you get status and information on PCMCIA cards installed in the system. In addition, on OS/2 and on Microsoft Windows, PC Card Director can register an application program for PCMCIA cards and execute them automatically. Auto Configurator and Memory Device Driver enables supported PCMCIA cards by sensing them automatically. PCMCIA cards supported by Auto Configurator and Memory Device Driver are listed in the Compatibility and Supported Products section. Storage: The customer-removable, customer-installable hard drive is 2.1GB standard. The drive is easily removed by lifting up the keyboard. You can have multiple "systems" simply by installing a different hard drive. Systems can also be shared by users who have their own hard drive but no ThinkPad system unit. A 1.44MB FDD comes standard. ThinkPad UltraBay: The ThinkPad UltraBay, also standard with the system, is an intelligent bay that switches its pinout signals to allow the installation of an FDD, PCMCIA cartridge, second Li-Ion battery, HDD, or CD-ROM in what would normally be just the FDD bay. The installation of a second hard drive requires the ThinkPad Second HDD Adapter optional feature. The 760ED comes with a 12 cm CD-ROM, 6X-speed (150/900 Kbps), in the ThinkPad UltraBay instead of the diskette drive. The FDD is shipped with the system. The ThinkPad 760E systems can be upgraded with an optional CD-ROM at any time to increase their functionality. Media Processor (MWAVE DSP): The MWAVE MDSP2780 operates at up to 60 million operations per second for integrating audio, games, music, data/fax modem, and telephony into a DSP. Features and benefits include: o 44.1KHz MPC-2 16-bit audio with real-time compression o Simultaneous audio play and record o Digital audio mixing with up to eight open .WAV sources o General MIDI-compatible, 32-voice wavetable synthesizer o Sound Blaster support o Up to 28.8 Kbps data/fax modem(3) o Full-featured telephone(3) - Answering machine with variable speed message playback and voice compression - Hands-free, full-duplex speakerphone This features set can be enhanced simply by upgrading the DSP software. Audio: The audio capability on the system board and the integrated microphone allow voice annotation and audio capability. The system is equipped with audio in/out jacks for stereo speakers, headphone, or external microphone. A separate slide volume control is located to the rear of the keyboard on the system. Video: The new models of the ThinkPad 760E system have PCI bus support with video acceleration, providing exceptional video performance and have 2MB of video RAM. The 760ED also has enhanced video that supports video-in and video-out (NTSC/PAL), video capture, hardware video acceleration, scaling, and color space conversion, in addition to 2MB of video RAM. Total Image Video with MPEG-2 Half Horizontal Resolution: The 760ED system has support for MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 HHR video decoding for significantly improved video performance. Infrared: The systems have IR transceivers in front and back for wireless file and data transfer and printing. The ThinkPad 760 family is designed for compliance with the Infrared Data Association (IrDA) IR data link specification Version 1.0. The system supports three modes of operation: o IBM mode (from 576 Kbps to 1.15 Mbps) o HP mode (from 9600 bps to 115 Kbps) o Sharp mode (9600 bps) Preinstalled software provides wireless file transfer, file synchronization, and clipboard data transfer. With the IR feature, data can be exchanged with the following systems by using the following vendor software packages: Systems Software Omnibook 300 LapLink Remote Access HP 100LX/200LX Connectivity Pack for the HP 100LX Sharp Wizard/Zaurus PC Interface Software, 9000 Link for PCs OZ-990(W) Other Features: The systems have the full complement of ports (enhanced parallel port, external display, pointer-keyboard, and serial). In addition, a 240-pin connector supports all ThinkPad IBM docking solutions (the FDD external attachment port is standard on all models of the 760E and ED): o Dock I -- portable docking with a slot and bay o Dock II -- desktop docking with slots, bays, and PCMCIA slots o Port Replicator I -- cable manager with a Type III PCMCIA slot or Type II PCMCIA slots o Port Replicator II -- cable manager only o IBM SelectaDock Base Model 1 o IBM SelectaDock I When using the ThinkPad 760E/ED new models with the ThinkPad Dock I or Dock II, the ThinkPad IDE Conversion Card optional feature (46H5994) must be used to access the IDE devices (HDD and CD-ROM) in these IBM docking solutions. The 760ED has additional ports: MIDI/joystick, video-in, and video-out. An RJ11 jack is also included, because the DSP provides data/fax modem capability with speeds up to 28.8 Kbps. The RJ11 jack is standard in the U.S.A. and certain other countries. PRODUCT POSITIONING The ThinkPad 760E/ED systems are positioned with the highest full-function systems in IBM's mobile systems family of ThinkPads. PUBLICATIONS The following publications and diskettes are available for separate purchase. To order, call the IBM Software Manufacturing Solution (SMS) Hotline at 800-879-2755. The appropriate user's guide will be shipped with each system. Order Description Number IBM ThinkPad Technical Reference 760E/ED/EL/ELD(5) S30H-2433 IBM ThinkPad 760E/ED/EL User's Guide S78H-6671 IBM ThinkPad 760E Diskettes Group S76H-9217 IBM ThinkPad 760ED Diskettes Group S78H-6676 IBM ThinkPad MWAVE Diskettes Group S78H-6727 IBM ThinkPad MWAVE Diskettes Group for Windows NT S76H-9206 IBM ThinkPad 760E/ED Specification Sheet G221-4445 (5) Available in October 1996 The Technical Reference is for programmers, engineers, and others who want to understand the ThinkPad 760 family system unit in greater detail. The publication includes functional specifications, hardware specifications, and pinouts for peripheral connectors. Service Publications (Manuals and Diskettes) Order Description Number Hardware Maintenance Manual Volume 3: ThinkPad Computers S82G-1503 Hardware Maintenance Diskette S82G-3891 The Hardware Maintenance Manual contains service and reference information for ThinkPad computers. The service section includes procedures for isolating problems to a FRU, related service procedures, and an illustrated parts catalog. The reference section includes safety information, product description, and general information about system functions. Publications can be ordered from an IBM Authorized Dealer, an IBM representative, or through the Technical Directory. A complete listing of ThinkPad and PC hardware publications is available by calling the Technical Directory at 800-IBM-PCTB (426-7282). TECHNICAL INFORMATION Specified Operating Environment Physical Specifications(6) ThinkPad 760E o Width: 297.0 mm (11.7 in) o Depth: 210.0 mm (8.3 in) o Height: 50.7 mm (2.00 in) o Weight: 2.91 kg (6.41 lb) with Li-Ion battery pack ThinkPad 760ED o Width: 297.0 mm (11.7 in) o Depth: 210.0 mm (8.3 in) o Height: 50.7 mm (2.00 in) o Weight: 3.02 kg (6.65 lb) with Li-Ion battery pack and CD-ROM Accessories o Li-Ion battery pack: 400 g (0.88 lb) o FDD: 213 g (0.47 lb) o CD-ROM: 370 g (0.82 lb) (6) Actual specifications may vary based on features, vendor components, or manufacturing process. Electrical Specifications o Universal AC adapter: 100 to 240 V AC, 2.2 A, 50/60Hz o Li-Ion battery pack: 10.8 V, 3.0 AH, 740 mAH/cell, 12 cell/pack Heat Dissipation o 136 Btu/hr maximum Heat Emissions in Watts o 35 watts maximum Air Temperature for Shipping and Storage o -20(degs) to 60(degs)C (-4(degs) to 140(degs)F) Acoustic Noise Level: Class 3D (office environment) o Sound pressure level (operator position): 40 dB (operating) o Sound power level: 5.1 Bels (operating), 4.8 Bels (idling) Note: The noise emission level stated is the declared (upper limit) sound power level, in Bels, for a random sample of machines, typically configured, and operating in idle mode, for example, powered on, but no DASD read/write or other I/O activity. All measurements made in accordance with ANSI S12.10, and reported in conformance with ISO 9296. Operating Environment Air Temperature: 0 to 8,000 ft o Operating: 5(degs) to 35(degs)C (41(degs) to 95(degs)F) (without diskette) o Operating: 10(degs) to 35(degs)C (50(degs) to 95(degs)F) (with diskette inside unit) o System off: 5(degs) to 43(degs)C (41(degs) to 110(degs)F) o Storage/shipment: -20(degs) to 60(degs)C (-4(degs) to 140(degs)F) o Wet bulb (maximum): 29.4(degs)C (85(degs)F) Air Temperature: 8,000 to 10,000 ft o Operating: 5(degs) to 31.3(degs)C (41(degs) to 88(degs)F) (without diskette) o Operating: 10(degs) to 31.3(degs)C (50(degs) to 88(degs)F) (with diskette inside unit) o System off: 5(degs) to 43(degs)C (41(degs) to 110(degs)F) o Storage/shipment: -20(degs) to 60(degs)C (-4(degs) to 140(degs)F) o Wet bulb (maximum): 25.7(degs)C (78(degs)F) Note: The maximum temperature when the system is on is linearly decreased from 8,000 ft to 10,000 ft. Relative Humidity o Operating: 8% to 95% (without diskette) o Operating: 8% to 80% (with diskette inside unit) o Storage/shipment: 5% to 95% Altitude o 10,000 ft maximum (3,048 m) Agency Approvals o System unit approvals - FCC Class-B Certified to comply with FCC Rules, Part 15 FCC ID is ANOGCF2704AT (760E/ED) - VCCI CLASS 2 (0 db) - CISPR22B - UL-1950 - CSA C22.2 No. 950 - NOM - UK-PTT - JATE - SASO - IEC950 Software Requirements: The following operating systems support the ThinkPad 760E/ED new models. Refer to the Limitations section for support issues unique to each operating system. o IBM PC DOS 7, J7.0/V o OS/2 Warp 4(7) o OS/2 Warp, Version 3 with and without WIN-OS/2(TM) o OS/2 Warp Connect, Version 3 with and without WIN-OS/2 o OS/2 Warp, Version 3 Japanese with and without WIN-OS/2 o OS/2 Warp Connect, Version 3 Japanese with and without WIN-OS/2 o OS/2 Warp, Japanese Version 3.0 o MS-DOS(7) Version 6.22 o Microsoft Windows 95 o Microsoft Windows Version 3.11/J3.1 o Microsoft Windows for Workgroups 3.11 o Microsoft NT Workstation V3.51(8) o Microsoft NT Workstation V3.51 Japanese(8) o Microsoft Windows NT Workstation 4.0(9) (7) Refer to Software Announcement 296-375, dated September 24, 1996. Limitations and compatibility statement will be available on the PC Co. World Wide Web home page on October 15, 1996. (8) Limitations, tips and techniques, and device drivers can be obtained at no charge from IBM's PC Company BBS at 919-517-0001. Also, customers with access capability can obtain this information from the Internet at FTP.PC.IBM.COM and from the ThinkPad Forum on CompuServ. (9) Information about Microsoft Windows NT Workstation 4.0 support may be obtained from the PC Company BBS after October 25, 1996. Also, customers with access capability can obtain this information from the Internet at FTP.PC.IBM.COM and from the ThinkPad Forum on CompuServ. Note: Prior versions of these operating systems are not supported. For example, PC DOS 6.3, OS/2 2.11, Microsoft Windows 3.0, and MS DOS 6.0. The following IBM system software is supported: o OS/2 LAN Server Entry Version 4.0(10) o OS/2 LAN Server Advanced Version 4.0(10) o Communications Manager/2 Version 1.11 o Database/2 OS/2 Version 1.2 (10) Client function only was tested. Compatibility and Supported Products Refer to the 9546 Sales Manual pages or contact your IBM representative for a list of supported features and options and compatible IBM and vendor software. The Sales Manual is updated periodically. The ThinkPad 760 family of systems is designed to be compatible with the PS/2(R). The ThinkPad 760 family systems contain BIOS, Easy Setup, and Diagnostics in their Flash ROM and also provide a GUI to set up the system and power management features for OS/2 and Windows users. BIOS provides the hardware instructions and interfaces designed to support the standard features of the ThinkPad 760 family systems and to maintain compatibility with many software programs currently operating under DOS and OS/2 on the IBM PC family. Limitations Enhanced Video and MPEG Restrictions o When using Windows 3.1 and an MPEG file is loaded through the IBM SelectaDock I SCSI or to a network through a PCI card, two PCI IRQs need to be assigned. o When using Windows NT 3.51 and a low-speed SCSI device, such as a CD-ROM, is attached to the IBM SelectaDock I SCSI, an error occurs at start up or when the media is changed. A new driver from Adaptec (AIC78xx.SYS) will fix this problem. o Video capture/overlay/MPEG playback functions not supported are: - 1024 x 768 256 color 75Hz in OS/2 Warp only. - 1024 x 768 65,536 color 75Hz. - All 16 color modes. - All 1280 x 1024 modes (in OS/2 Warp only). - Virtual screen mode (such as 800 x 600 on a television or 1024 x 768 on an LCD). - MPEG-2 HHR PAL format clips cannot be played back regardless of operating system. - When using MPEG, CD-i Interactive is not supported. - When using OS/2 Warp, some CD-i CDs cannot be played. - Simultaneous use of MPEG and MWAVE DSP modem is not supported. - In OS/2 Warp, session switch operation between a full-screen session and an OS/2 Presentation Manager(R) session is not supported on a television. - In OS/2 Warp, the video capture may be further restricted by system configuration, for example, system memory size, screen resolution, or screen refresh rate. o MPEG playback is not supported under DOS or WIN-OS/2. o In OS/2 Warp, video-in recorder cannot be used with the following applications concurrently, because it may cause the applications to hang. - Digital video (MPEG playback) - Video CD-i player (video CD playback) - Digital video (hardware accelerated playback) - Video IN recorder (video capture and overlay) o The enhanced video, such as overlay and capture, and MPEG features cannot be used concurrently. o When using video-in under OS/2 Warp, only "Ultimotion(TM) Real-Time Compression" can be used as the compression type. Other compressors are not supported even if they are listed in the compression type dialog box. o MPEG-2 HHR transport stream is not supported under OS/2 Warp Version 3. o MPEG-2 HHR clips cannot be played back properly while attached to the ThinkPad Dock I or Dock II. You may have frame skip, macro block noise, or audio/video asynchronization. o In some applications, color or brightness differences in the displayed image between the LCD and CRT may occur when enhanced video is enabled and video-in is selected. In this case, disable enhanced video or select video-out. o In OS/2 Warp or Windows 95, the call center will not function correctly when playing MPEG. o The MIDI/joystick port on the ThinkPad 760ED cannot be used while these MPEG options are being used. o Some types of video CDs are not supported. MWAVE DSP Limitations o In OS/2, the concurrent use of digital audio, MIDI, and digital video applications may show some error message or the function may be unstable. o In WIN-OS/2, FaxWorks Voice sometimes fails to receive if the system is in suspend mode. o Modem, fax, and telephony features do not support PBX. o Some WAVE audio files cannot be played when using the DSP modem. This does not occur when using Windows 95. o MWAVE audio cannot be played when the MWave modem is connected at 28.8 Kbps. This limitation is not applicable to Windows 95. o Enabling IR on the host system during a co-sessions host session is not supported. o With voice-over-data (VOD), if the MWAVE modem is performing simultaneous voice and data transmission, the data rate of the modem is set to 14.4 bps. The VOD program is only supported in the native Windows and native DOS environments. o Sending a fax between ThinkPads may be unreliable unless both systems are at MWAVE Release 2.0. o MWAVE audio and modem features share the hardware resource of the MWAVE DSP. This concurrent usage has some restrictions. For example, while using a 28.8 Kbps modem or while receiving a fax/voice call, MIDI audio performance may be affected by reducing the number of MIDI voices or by temporarily suspending MIDI play. The MIDI play will return when DSP resources become available upon completion of the modem or fax/voice tasks. o In OS/2 Warp, using a MIDI application concurrently with the modem or with digital voice applications requires that the MIDI application be opened first. Once the modem call is completed or the digital video application is closed, MIDI play will be resumed. If after completion of the modem and digital video tasks, the MIDI play resumes with lesser quality or lower volume, it may be necessary to rewind the MIDI file or to close and reopen the MIDI application to restore full MIDI quality. o In OS/2 Warp, the MWAVE modem does not start automatically. It must be started manually. o For MPEG playback, sampling frequency is 44.1KHz only. Other OS/2 Limitations o OS/2 Warp 4 limitations and compatibility statement will be available on the PC Co. World Wide Web home page by October 15, 1996. o In OS/2, hibernation is not supported when the drive is formatted by HPFS on a system that has more than 64MB of memory. o When a CD-i format CD is in the CD-ROM drive, the system may not start correctly when using OS/2 Warp. A fix will be provided under OS/2 Warp APAR PJ19669. o OS/2 Digital Video player may fail to play some AVI-format video files. o When a second HDD is in the ThinkPad UltraBay, it cannot be formatted by the OS/2 Warp FDISK program after being assigned as the logical drive. A fix will be provided under OS/2 Warp APAR PJ19672. o Some optional features or applications may use the COM1 port. OS/2 Warp Version 3 will not load COM.SYS if the COM1 port is already in use. Only one such feature or application that uses the COM1 (for example, communications or PCMCIA) can be used at a time. o The OS/2 Warp FixPak XR0W009 is required for audio and video support for Indeo-format video file playback. Windows NT Workstation Limitations o In Windows NT 3.51, hibernation is not supported when the drive is formatted by NTFS. Suspend/Resume Limitations o OS/2 MWAVE audio needs to be stopped before entering suspend mode. o When using Windows 3.11, ensure that Advanced Power Management (APM) is installed. o During suspend mode, the maximum power output becomes 60 mA at 12 V. During suspend mode, PCMCIA cards cannot consume more than 60 mA at 12 V. o Do not remove or install PC cards during suspend mode. o If the system is suspended/resumed during the following operations, unpredictable results may occur. The application should be closed before entering suspend or hibernation. - Audio record - Video playback or record - Playback of MPEG file, AVI file, video CD, CD-i - Active communications in DOS box (modem use) -- application may hang - DOS games o In Windows 95, if MWAVE DSP is disabled using the Device Manager, you can not use the suspend/resume feature. Other Limitations o When an external VGA CRT is attached, the display setting in the ThinkPad setup features must be set to LCD or CRT but not to both. o A video capture adapter that requires VGA pass-through (video pass-through, VESA bus) is not supported by the 760E/ED and the IBM Docking Stations. o When SelectaDock Model I is being used with a SCSI driver installed, suspend/resume function and warm/hot docking are not supported. The exception is that Windows 95 supports warm/hot docking even when a SCSI driver is installed. o When a PCI card or ISA card is being used with a SelectaDock Model I, suspend/resume is not supported. o Simultaneous use of IR and other timing-critical or computation-intensive applications, such as communications and multimedia, is not recommended. o The fixed mode of IR communication should be used only with IR devices that support only that mode, not with ThinkPad systems. o The ESS audio device driver is not CID installable. PCMCIA Limitations o The ATA PCMCIA card is not supported when using Microsoft Windows NT. o These systems support CardBus PC cards that draw a maximum of 2.64 watts (0.8 A at 3.3 V DC). o PCMCIA diagnostics programs usually do not recognize slot numbers greater than two. To diagnose a suspected faulty card, make sure the PCMCIA card is in one of the PCMCIA slots of the system proper. o Point enablers usually do not support slot numbers above two. If using a PCMCIA card with a point enabler, make sure that the card is in a slot on the system proper. o PC card point enablers may write directly to the hardware, bypassing Socket and Card Services. Writing directly to the hardware may cause problems that cannot be anticipated. Also, point enablers may interfere with client device drivers that do communicate with Socket and Card Services. Additional customer testing in their specific environments is recommended. o When installing two Type II PCMCIA communications cards in the PCMCIA slot, there may be some cable interference that allows only one card to be used. o Before removing storage PCMCIA PC cards, such as hard disk, flash memory, or SRAM, the computer must be turned off or the PCMCIA slot must be powered off. Other Tips and Hints o To support suspend/resume using Dock II, the SCSI IRQ should be set manually, by using the SCSI option ROM utility, so that it does not conflict with other device resources. o Use boot manager when booting OS/2 Warp from a secondary drive. o To install OS/2 (OS/2 for Windows or OS/2 Warp) on the 760ED from CD-ROM versions, the external FDD enclosure (66G3618) is required. o When an internal CD-ROM drive is used in the 760E or 760ED and the use of the diskette drive is also desired, the external FDD enclosure option (66G3618) must be used. o When using the redirector feature of the Connectivity Pack for the HP 100LX or HP 200LX to exchange data over an IR link at 115 Kbps, the ThinkPad 760ED should be configured as the requestor. o Video performance will be reduced when operating under the 64K or 16M color mode. o Continuous use of the HDD or CD-ROM drive, such as reading long video files, will impact battery life. In the ThinkPad 760E/ED, the use of the enhanced video function will also impact battery life. o The system is designed so the customer can install or remove the PCMCIA card without turning off the system, if the PCMCIA card supports this function. Refer to the instructions that come with the PCMCIA card. o The IBM Keyboard/Mouse Connector accessory is required when attaching an external keyboard to the system via the external input device port. Planning Information Cable Orders: All cables are included with the system. Installability: ThinkPad 760 family systems require approximately 20 minutes for installation. Installation includes unpacking, setting up, and powering on the system. Additional time is required to install other memory and other optional features. Packaging ThinkPad 760E/ED -- New Models o 9546-U9A -- (2.1GB, 760ED, Pentium 133MHz, 12.1-inch XGA, 16MB, CD-ROM, MPEG, Windows 95) o 9546-U9B -- (2.1GB, 760E, Pentium 150MHz, 12.1-inch XGA, 16MB, Windows 95) Shipment Group -- system unit contents: o System unit with U.S. English keyboard o AC adapter o Rechargeable battery pack (Li-Ion) o U.S. power cord o 760E/760ED User's Guide with warranty statement and FCC statement and IBM Program License Agreements o ThinkPad Envelope Group - Customer registration form - International traveler's hardware warranty booklet - HelpCenter label - 760E/ED User's Guide Enhanced Video Supplement Plus the following items: o Setup Pointer o PC Card security plate/stopper o TrackPoint III cap (x3) o PSTN cable o Wall plug Preinstalled mobile software envelope Windows 95 preinstalled operating system: o Windows 95 manual o License agreement o Other documentation The following items are also included with ThinkPad 760ED only: o FDD pack assembly o Bezel plate -- blank o Bezel plate, FDD/TV tuner o Conversion cable, game port o Conversion cable, video in/out o FDD Enclosure Security, Auditability, and Control Standard Security Features for the 9546: The electronic personalization feature is like a name tag on your ThinkPad. Your name, contact address, or phone number can be displayed on the screen when the system is turned on. This helps in case the ThinkPad is misplaced. The personal data is stored in the system's nonvolatile memory and is displayed with a password prompt. Passwords o A power-on password (POP) protects the system from unauthorized use. If a POP is set, the password prompt appears: - Each time the system is turned on - When the system is returned to normal operation from suspend mode o A supervisor password provides a higher level of security than the POP. The supervisor password protects the system functions from being used by unauthorized users and protects the hardware configuration from unauthorized modification. The supervisor password prompt appears when the hardware configuration is changed. o An HDD password (HDP) protects HDD data from unauthorized users. Once HDP is set, data on the HDD cannot be accessed without the correct HDP. Because the HDP is stored in the HDD, the data remains protected even if the HDD is removed to another system. The HDP prompt appears: - Each time the system is turned on - When the system is returned to normal operation from suspend mode You can also attach the Kensington lock to the keyhole on the side of the computer for additional security. This prevents the keyboard from opening and secures the internal devices under the keyboard. User management is responsible for evaluation, selection, and implementation of security features, administrative procedures, and appropriate controls in application systems and communications facilities. TERMS AND CONDITIONS This product is available for purchase under the terms of the IBM Customer Agreement (ICA). IBM Credit Corporation Financing: Term leases and installment payment plans are available for commercial and state and local government customers. Warranty Period System Hardware (9546): Three-year limited warranty in all models except Japanese Model J9B. Japanese Model J9B has a one-year limited warranty (optional one-year warranty available via special bid). System Battery: One year Licensing: IBM programs are licensed under the terms and conditions of the IBM License Agreements that ship with the system. Non-IBM programs are available from IBM under the terms provided by the program supplier. Warranty Service Customer Carry-in Repair (CCR) or ThinkPad EasyServ: Warranty service for the ThinkPad 760E/ED new models will be provided by ThinkPad EasyServ or CCR to an authorized dealer/remarketer. ThinkPad EasyServ is a courier repair service in which the ThinkPad system will be picked up at the customer's location and delivered to an IBM-designated repair location. The repair location will repair the system and return it to the customer. Charges for the courier service will be paid by IBM. If warranty service is required, the customer should call the HelpCenter at 800-772-2227, in the U.S.A. The HelpCenter will assist the user with problem isolation for hardware and software. If a hardware problem is identified, the HelpCenter will arrange for a courier to pick up the system for overnight delivery (where available) to the repair location. Most repairs should be made the same day the system is received at the repair location. Customers should keep the original shipping carton for shipping to the repair location. If the original shipping carton is not available, the courier will deliver a shipping carton and return to pick up the system for delivery to the repair location. ThinkPad EasyServ is available in the U.S.A., Canada, and Mexico. International Warranty Service: Customers who travel or need to move products to another country will be able to register the products for IBM International Warranty Service. Upon registering with the International Warranty Service Office (IWSO), IBM will issue an International Warranty Service Certificate that will be honored virtually worldwide, where IBM or IBM resellers sell and service IBM PC products. During the original warranty period, customers will be provided service through the service delivery methods available for their specific IBM system in the servicing country. For more information on IBM International Warranty Service in the United States and Canada or to register your IBM PC systems, contact IBM at 800-IWS-7426 (497-7426). Refer to IBM PC Co. Announcement PCC 94-516 or Services Announcement 694-028, dated October 17, 1994. Alternative Service o IBM On-site Repair (IOR): This service is not offered in the U.S.A. o ThinkPad EasyServ Overnight Repair Option: In the U.S.A., the ThinkPad EasyServ Overnight Repair Option is available for an additional per-incident charge or via special bid for coverage during the warranty period. The ThinkPad EasyServ Overnight Repair Option is available Monday through Thursday only. Note: Alaska and Hawaii require 48 hours for this service. Maintenance Service Maintenance service for the ThinkPad 760E/ED new models will be provided by ThinkPad EasyServ or CCR to an authorized dealer/remarketer. o ThinkPad EasyServ Maintenance Agreement: This is a courier repair service in which the ThinkPad will be picked up at the customer's location and delivered to an IBM-designated repair location. The repaired machine will be returned to the customer. Charges for the courier service will be paid by IBM. o ThinkPad EasyServ Overnight Repair Option: This allows customers whose mobile machines are covered by an IBM EasyServ Maintenance Agreement to upgrade the service to overnight repair with a per-incident charge or via special bid during the agreement period. This offering is available in the U.S.A. only. Customers should call the HelpCenter at 800-772-2227 for information on utilizing this service. Note: Alaska and Hawaii require 48 hours for this service. o IBM Per Call Service: In the U.S.A., this is available only through ThinkPad EasyServ. o IOR: This service is not available in the U.S.A. Note: Non-IBM products installed in the ThinkPad 760E/ED new models either on Warranty or Maintenance Service can be serviced by IBM. Additional service support charges may apply. In the U.S.A., these non-IBM products may be serviced by ThinkPad EasyServ. Warranty Service: CCR to an authorized IBM dealer or ThinkPad EasyServ Alternative Service: CCR or ThinkPad EasyServ Maintenance Service: CCR or ThinkPad EasyServ IBM Customer Maintenance Agreement: ThinkPad EasyServ Maintenance Agreement IBM Hourly Service Rate Classification: One IBM Warranty Service, Maintenance Service, or IBM Hourly Service can be obtained by calling 800-IBM-SERV (426-7378). 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From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 16 15:04:36 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA095142674; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 15:04:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13693; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:59:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:56:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13437; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:56:43 -0400 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13430; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:56:32 -0400 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-4 #9830) id <01IAPK33SUAOA8C2MV@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:56:04 MST Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:52:38 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: TP760CD, Quantum Europa 1080 - it works! In-Reply-To: "Your message dated Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:34:57 +0000" <9610161741.AA0059@PAULWAL.paulwal.mindspring.com> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IAPKD225DKA8C2MV@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Paranoia points: > pp1. The inside of the mounting bracket is bare aluminum. When > mounted, the drive's circuit board is not touching the > bracket, but it's mighty close. I can slide a sheet of > paper between them. The aluminum is thin, and could > easily be dented. Most biggesr electronic parts houses sell fairly stiff paper (sometimes called fish paper as I recall) that's made for this kind of insulation - I'd use a piece of it here, it's probably just thin enough to fit well. > pp4. When installed in the ThinkPad, the drive is upside-down. > (does it matter?). Nope. Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 16 18:17:53 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA128294272; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:17:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01977; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:12:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:05:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01447; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:05:54 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01441; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:05:51 -0400 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id RAA00170; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:05:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610162205.RAA00170@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:05:16 -0500 To: jhosseinof@ibm.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: 1.4 & 2.1G Hard drive models Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My first indication is that the 69H8414 2.1G drive is $1600. I guess that answers my question. Thanks Mike Redmond -------------- At 01:44 PM 10/16/96 -0400, Joshua Hosseinof wrote: >IBM doesn't give price info in their product announcements anymore so >you have to call them up to find out the price. > >> Options by IBM: ThinkPad 760/755 Hard Disk Drives ... >> The new ThinkPad 760/755 HDDs feature: >> >> o 2.5-inch form factor >> >> o 1.4GB or 2.1GB capacity >> ... >> Technical Information >> >> Performance Specifications >> >> 69H8412 69H8414 >> >> Interface ATA-3 ATA-3 >> Formatted capacity (GB) 1.4 2.1 ... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 16 19:00:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA138086801; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 19:00:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04426; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:58:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:53:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04161; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:53:38 -0400 Received: from tower.itis.com ([205.243.195.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04153; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:53:35 -0400 Received: from rkarp (p43.itis.com [205.243.195.163]) by tower.itis.com (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id RAA23799 for ; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:53:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610162253.RAA23799@tower.itis.com> From: "Robert J. Karp" To: "ThinkPad Users Group" Subject: ThinkPad 760 Screen Expansion Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:52:35 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone know of a utility that will expand a 640x840 image on the ThinkPad 12.1" 800x600 TFT display without distortion? As you know, a screen expansion option is included within the ThinkPad Features program but it produces noticable distortion both within and without Windows95. It would be nice to be able to truly operate in 640x480 resolution as there are plenty of multimedia applications that will run only in 640x480 256-color mode (a sort of de facto standard, if you will). Anyone understand why the LCD cannot handle 640x480 resolution in full-screen? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 16 19:07:30 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA139427247; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 19:07:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04721; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 19:05:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Oct 1996 19:00:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04501; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 19:00:16 -0400 Received: from smtp-gw01.ca.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ca.us.ibm.net [165.87.201.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04495; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 19:00:14 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ca.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA28775; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:46:05 GMT Message-Id: <199610162246.WAA28775@smtp-gw01.ca.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip166-72-92-158.nj.us.ibm.net(166.72.92.158) by smtp-gw01.ca.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaEGEGzR; Wed Oct 16 22:46:03 1996 From: "Clarence C.Collins" To: , Subject: Re: Mwave Modem - dialtone recognition ??? Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 05:02:15 -0400 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu You are correct re: disabling dialtone detection, but you will still need to have a pause or the modem will try to dial after the 9 and before dial tone is established by the PBX, and that is where the "commas " comes in, they will cause the modem to pause before attempting to dial. I have found three "commas " to often suffice without having to disable dialtone detection, try it,,,you won't be sorry.{ 9,,,XXX-XXXX }. ---------- > From: paulwal@colum.mindspring.com > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Mwave Modem - dialtone recognition ??? > Date: Tuesday, October 08, 1996 9:39 AM > > From: "Geoff Hogan" > > > > Tony, > > > > >documentation for the MWave, and I cannot find any AT command settings > > >that will force the modem to dial the initial 9 to get the > > >conventional tone, or to just ignore the tone, an dial blindly. I > > > > I'm no expert in such things, but my PCMCIA modem accepts a range of ATX > > commands for extended results code selection: X0: blind dialling; X1: blind > > dialling, gives connect speed; X2: needs dialtone, gives connect speed; X3: > > blind dialling, gives connect speed, BUSY enabled; X4: needs dialtone, all > > messages on. X4 is the default for my modem - how about trying ATX3 in your > > initialization string? > > > > Geoff > > Yes, the ATX0, X1, and X3 all disable dial tone detection. The complete > description is in the "OS/2 Modem Help" document in the MWave folder (if > you're using OS/2). It's also available under the "Help" menu selection in > the MWave Modem window. > > Paul Walukewicz > --------------o------------- > paulwal@colum.mindspring.com > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 16 20:13:00 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA153001179; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 20:12:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07779; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 20:09:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 16 Oct 1996 20:03:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07445; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 20:03:38 -0400 Received: from mail13.digital.com (mail13.digital.com [192.208.46.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07439; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 20:03:35 -0400 Received: from mroexc2.mro.dec.com by mail13.digital.com (5.65v3.2/1.0/WV) id AA12451; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 19:58:20 -0400 Received: by mroexc2.mro.dec.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BBBB9C.9692DC80@mroexc2.mro.dec.com>; Wed, 16 Oct 1996 19:59:49 -0400 Message-Id: From: Gary Henry To: "'ThinkPad Users Group'" , "'Robert J. Karp'" Subject: RE: ThinkPad 760 Screen Expansion Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 19:59:35 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Robert.... I will take a stab at this but I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong... THis is a real simple explanation of a technical subject,,,, A multisync monitor like what you have on your desk is able to create display of based on the frequency (SCAN rate of the guns in the back of the monitor) that it receives from the video card. There is something called dot pitch on these monitors that represents the sharpest image that a monitor can have (it is acutally a mask with holes in it from what I understand). I do not remember the exact formula but suficet it to say the lower the dot pitch the sharper the image will be in hi-resolution On a LCD panel the number of pixels are fixed at some resolution like 800x600 because the LCD does not have the ability to change the resolution by changing the frequency/scan rate. The way they fake it out is to only display 640x480 pixels on a 800x600 screen right in the middle. THis has nothing to do with SCAN rate just physical pixles lit up by the video card. The vertical expansion tries to calculate the corrct pixel combination and display them on the full 800x600 screen this is what leads to the distortion. It is simple and as any one would attext I have left a lot out but I thingk it may give you a good idea...... Gary ---------- From: Robert J. Karp[SMTP:rkarp@itis.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 1996 6:52 PM To: ThinkPad Users Group Subject: ThinkPad 760 Screen Expansion Does anyone know of a utility that will expand a 640x840 image on the ThinkPad 12.1" 800x600 TFT display without distortion? As you know, a screen expansion option is included within the ThinkPad Features program but it produces noticable distortion both within and without Windows95. It would be nice to be able to truly operate in 640x480 resolution as there are plenty of multimedia applications that will run only in 640x480 256-color mode (a sort of de facto standard, if you will). Anyone understand why the LCD cannot handle 640x480 resolution in full-screen? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 17 14:12:30 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA032745948; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:12:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28320; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:05:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:49:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26801; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:49:56 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26795; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:49:53 -0400 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id MAA26497 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 12:49:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610171749.MAA26497@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 12:49:46 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: 755 Drive Caddy Vendors Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I thought I had a phone number for a drive caddy vendor called PS-Solutions, but I can't find it now. If you have it, could you send it over... Thanks Mike Redmond From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 17 16:31:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA054594300; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:31:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08169; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:24:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:20:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07764; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:20:25 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07752; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:20:21 -0400 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id PAA05841 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:20:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610172020.PAA05841@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 15:20:05 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: 755 Drive Caddy Vendors Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I found a reference to PS-Solutions on the Web at http://www.shownet.com/PCEXNY/HTML/Alphabet/Exhibitors/ps_solutions.html Their phone number is (214) 783-6996 Thanks Mike Redmond ------------------ At 12:49 PM 10/17/96 -0500, Michael Redmond wrote: >I thought I had a phone number for a drive caddy vendor called PS-Solutions, >but I can't find it now. If you have it, could you send it over... >Thanks >Mike Redmond > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 17 17:46:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA066038803; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:46:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16880; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:42:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:38:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16264; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:38:53 -0400 Received: from mail13.digital.com (mail13.digital.com [192.208.46.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16250; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:38:40 -0400 Received: from mroexc2.mro.dec.com by mail13.digital.com (5.65v3.2/1.0/WV) id AA05839; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:30:44 -0400 Received: by mroexc2.mro.dec.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BBBC51.20E40D50@mroexc2.mro.dec.com>; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:32:11 -0400 Message-Id: From: Gary Henry To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" , "'Michael Redmond'" Subject: RE: 755 Drive Caddy Vendors Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:32:02 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just talked to them... They are also going to have caddies for the 760ED shortly. They are waiting for a cable assembly to come in from over seas!!!! Gary ---------- From: Michael Redmond[SMTP:redmond@engr.wisc.edu] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 1996 4:20 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 755 Drive Caddy Vendors I found a reference to PS-Solutions on the Web at http://www.shownet.com/PCEXNY/HTML/Alphabet/Exhibitors/ps_solutions.htm l Their phone number is (214) 783-6996 Thanks Mike Redmond ------------------ At 12:49 PM 10/17/96 -0500, Michael Redmond wrote: >I thought I had a phone number for a drive caddy vendor called PS-Solutions, >but I can't find it now. If you have it, could you send it over... >Thanks >Mike Redmond > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 17 17:56:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA067499400; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:56:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18361; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:54:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:52:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18127; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:52:41 -0400 Received: from upsmot02.msn.com (upsmot02.msn.com [204.95.110.79]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18111; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:52:31 -0400 Received: from upmajb04.msn.com ([204.95.110.81]) by upsmot02.msn.com (8.6.8.1/Configuration 4) with SMTP id NAA10090; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:56:18 -0700 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 96 22:05:39 UT From: "Ronald Shaw" Message-Id: To: "Axel Hartmann" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: eraserheads for trackpoint Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu ---------- From: Axel Hartmann >recently there was a post about the eraserheads >for toshiba's fitting on thinkpads... >today i got a (junk-)mail from winbook that, >come to think of it, isn't so junky after all. >first of all it seems to list all of the facts + prices >rather nicely. it shows all of the add-on parts, >as well as the replacements - batteries, etc. ... >and even replacement eraserheads for $3/3... (they >picture them im red and in _grey_: show that your >thinkpad is individual! ) >i wonder if they fit... The last time I saw a Winbook, about 1 year ago, they had a round post, not square, so I do not think they will fit. I am not sure why you would want a Toshiba cap, they are the smooth caps not cat tongues. I can use a cat tongue for months, which was not the case with the smooth caps. Ron Shaw From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 17 19:14:12 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA079194051; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:14:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24924; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:11:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:07:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24597; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:07:36 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24585; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:07:10 -0400 Received: from morita.math.hawaii.edu.hawaii.edu by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA29387; Thu, 17 Oct 96 13:06:47 HST From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <9610172306.AA29387@kahuna.math.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: eraserheads for trackpoint To: axel.hartmann@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de (Axel Hartmann) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 96 13:06:44 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961016061453.006694d0@129.13.95.1>; from "Axel Hartmann" at Oct 16, 96 2:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My machine currently has a 'stealth' eraserhead - a smoothtop, low-profile black one. I got it at Computer City, where a salesman said that they didn't sell replacements, wouldn't order them, and wouldn't tell me where I could find them. I loudly chewed him out, pointing out that they used to sell the whole IBM line, still had 360s on display, and asked how they expected to sell machines when they wouldn't supply basic consumables afterwards. Before I could scare away any more customers, he sheepishly wentinto the back room and found me this pointer top. I have no idea what machine it was originally meant for, and prefer therough IBM texture, but it will do until I find original equipment. - David (ross@math.hawaii.edu) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 17 21:39:49 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA098902788; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 21:39:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07671; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 21:38:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 17 Oct 1996 21:34:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07084; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 21:34:42 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07078; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 21:34:39 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (ssh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA31206 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:39:21 -0600 Message-Id: <199610180139.TAA31206@aspen.wwsi.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: New 760E/ED: Where can I get them? Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:39:21 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, if there are 30k of these in the channel, I can't find that particular tributary. Anyone found a seller with them? If you know of someone who does (or might!) have these, post or e-mail the contact information, please! Thanks! ssh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 18 07:40:31 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA194918830; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 07:40:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA06065; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 07:38:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 18 Oct 1996 07:32:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05371; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 07:32:25 -0400 Received: from helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk (root@helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk [137.73.8.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05262; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 07:32:10 -0400 Received: from remote391.dialup.kcl.ac.uk (remote391.dialup.kcl.ac.uk [137.73.77.237]) by helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA22207 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:30:29 +0100 Message-Id: <199610181130.MAA22207@helium.dcs.kcl.ac.uk> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Costas S. Iliopoulos" Organization: King's College London To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:29:55 +0000 Subject: DirectX Drivers for 365X 10.4 TFT Reply-To: csi@dcs.kcl.ac.uk Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.31) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I installed Microsoft's DirectX but the display drivers do not work: I run a couple of games that make use of DirectX and they complain that the "display drivers are not compatible with Windows '95"! Any idea, where I can find DirectX compatible drivers with the above model? I am not conviced that the audio (ESS) directX drivers work either... but I have no evidence of that... Thanks Costas From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 18 12:46:31 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA249347174; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:46:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09654; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:32:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:25:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08578; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:25:53 -0400 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08527; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:25:36 -0400 Received: from algol.execpc.com (algol.execpc.com [169.207.5.14]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.7.6/8.7.5) with SMTP id GAA05134; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 06:25:29 -0500 From: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) To: Steve Hultquist Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: New 760E/ED: Where can I get them? Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:27:06 GMT Organization: Emjay Corporation Message-Id: <3271af3c.5059745@mailgate.execpc.com> References: <199610180139.TAA31206@aspen.wwsi.com> In-Reply-To: <199610180139.TAA31206@aspen.wwsi.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/16.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 17 Oct 1996 19:39:21 -0600, you wrote: >Well, if there are 30k of these in the channel, I can't find that >particular tributary. Anyone found a seller with them? If you know of >someone who does (or might!) have these, post or e-mail the contact >information, please! > >Thanks! >ssh > CDW had them in their new catalog that I got this week! Who knows if they *really* have them. You can reach them at 800-800-4CDW. We purchased our Thinkpad earlier this year through Dataflex (now a part of Ameridata). Don't know if they have them, but I was quoted on one. Try Tim Shaw at 414-359-1996, ext 2302. That's Milwaukee, but they have offices all over the country. Tom Kustner -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation =20 System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay's. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 18 16:36:13 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA284680906; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:35:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06097; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:27:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:25:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05751; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:25:11 -0400 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05735; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:25:07 -0400 Received: from lazuli.execpc.com (lazuli.execpc.com [169.207.8.142]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.7.6/8.7.5) with SMTP id KAA21913; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:25:02 -0500 From: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) To: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) Cc: Steve Hultquist , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: New 760E/ED: Where can I get them? Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:26:39 GMT Organization: Emjay Corporation Message-Id: <3273c98e.11794210@mailgate.execpc.com> References: <199610180139.TAA31206@aspen.wwsi.com> <3271af3c.5059745@mailgate.execpc.com> In-Reply-To: <3271af3c.5059745@mailgate.execpc.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/16.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >CDW had them in their new catalog that I got this week! Who knows if >they *really* have them. You can reach them at 800-800-4CDW. > >We purchased our Thinkpad earlier this year through Dataflex (now a >part of Ameridata). Don't know if they have them, but I was quoted on >one. Try Tim Shaw at 414-359-1996, ext 2302. That's Milwaukee, but >they have offices all over the country. > Ironically, Tim Shaw stopped in this afternoon and says there is nothing in sight except a backlog...oh, well. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation =20 System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay's. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 18 17:08:29 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA290562907; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 17:08:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10157; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 17:03:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:59:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09672; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:59:47 -0400 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09666; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:59:43 -0400 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA14082; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 13:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johnp (tesu-pc2.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA16448 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Fri, 18 Oct 1996 13:58:58 -0700 From: "John Pham" Message-Id: <961018140836.ZM12934@johnp> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 14:08:33 -0700 In-Reply-To: Rick Tait "Installing NT4.0 on TP755CX tonight - any advice?" (Oct 18, 2:54pm) References: <2.2.32.19961018195425.0067cc30@psa.pencom.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0.1 (4.0.1 Sep 19 1996) To: Rick Tait , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Installing NT4.0 on TP755CX tonight - any advice? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Oct 18, 2:54pm, Rick Tait wrote: > Subject: Installing NT4.0 on TP755CX tonight - any advice? > Subject says it all. I am going ahead and installing NT4.0 on my > TP755CX tonight... Since I have a funky CDROM drive that NT doesn't > recognise, I am just going to copy everything to HD and then do it.. > > But - I was wondering what drivers (if any) I need to get a hold of > from IBM's website to perhaps take advantage of the 800x600 screen, > the MWave and all that kinda stuff... > > Can anyone that has done this before perhaps drop me a quick line > this afternoon outlining any advice they have? Maybe there are > some pitfalls that will hit me??? > > Thanks all very much in advance, > -Rick > >-- End of excerpt from Rick Tait I've installed both NT/WS 4.0 Beta 2 and the released version on the 760ELD a few weeks back. The released version installation is smoother than the beta and they both came with the 800x600 driver on the CD except you have to look for it in the drivers directory. The video driver on IBM web site for my machine didn't work since NT4.0 is much different than NT3.5x. I actually started the installation with the command WINNT /B in Win95 from the CD and which is much faster than doing the same thing in regular DOS. Good luck, John From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 18 17:29:29 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA294484166; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 17:29:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03377; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 16:04:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 18 Oct 1996 15:52:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01948; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 15:52:15 -0400 Received: from gossip.pyramid.com ([129.214.1.101]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01935; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 15:51:53 -0400 Received: from mercury.mis.pyramid.com by gossip.pyramid.com (5.61/OSx5.1a Pyramid-Internet-Gateway) id AA03967; Fri, 18 Oct 96 12:51:07 -0700 Received: from rickt.mis.pyramid.com by mercury.mis.pyramid.com (8.6.12/Pyramid_Internal_Configuration) id MAA10466; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:46:27 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961018195425.0067cc30@psa.pencom.com> X-Sender: rickt@psa.pencom.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 14:54:25 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Rick Tait Subject: Installing NT4.0 on TP755CX tonight - any advice? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Subject says it all. I am going ahead and installing NT4.0 on my TP755CX tonight... Since I have a funky CDROM drive that NT doesn't recognise, I am just going to copy everything to HD and then do it.. But - I was wondering what drivers (if any) I need to get a hold of from IBM's website to perhaps take advantage of the 800x600 screen, the MWave and all that kinda stuff... Can anyone that has done this before perhaps drop me a quick line this afternoon outlining any advice they have? Maybe there are some pitfalls that will hit me??? Thanks all very much in advance, -Rick From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 18 20:53:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA026976420; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:53:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03280; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:52:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:46:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02424; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:46:46 -0400 Received: from gossip.pyramid.com (gossip.pyramid.com [129.214.1.101]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02418; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:46:43 -0400 Received: from mercury.mis.pyramid.com by gossip.pyramid.com (5.61/OSx5.1a Pyramid-Internet-Gateway) id AA06617; Fri, 18 Oct 96 17:46:11 -0700 Received: from rickt.mis.pyramid.com by mercury.mis.pyramid.com (8.6.12/Pyramid_Internal_Configuration) id RAA13155; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 17:41:35 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961019004929.0067cd2c@psa.pencom.com> X-Sender: rickt@psa.pencom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:49:29 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Rick Tait Subject: Thinkpad 760c for sale Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu IBM Thinkpad 760c Pentium @ 90MHz 24MB RAM 720MB HD 800x600 Black Active Matrix LCD (800x600 @ 16-bit color) Loaded with Win95 & MS Office 7.0 etc Mwave (modem/sound/telephone etc) As-new condition ***NO*** bad pixels on display Price: $2700 Please call me during weekdays at (972) 584-5073 or in the evenings/weekends at (972) 459-2718. Or email me for further information. Thanks, -Rick From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 18 22:20:31 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA038471627; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 22:20:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11593; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 22:18:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 18 Oct 1996 22:15:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11260; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 22:15:18 -0400 Received: from tower.itis.com (tower.itis.com [205.243.195.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11247; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 22:15:12 -0400 Received: from rkarp (i2.itis.com [205.243.195.92]) by tower.itis.com (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA18592; Fri, 18 Oct 1996 21:14:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610190214.VAA18592@tower.itis.com> From: "Robert J. Karp" To: , Subject: Re: DirectX Drivers for 365X 10.4 TFT Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 21:13:48 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, all I can say is that I have had a much different experience, thankfully, thus far. My model is the 760EL (9547-U4H) and have installed DirectX 2 and Return of Arcade and Ultimate Doom for Windows 95 and everything has worked just fine for me. My chipset is the Cyber 9320 PCI; I don't know what chipset the 365XD uses. However, our audio devices are the same (ESS AudioDrive 1688) so audio shouldn't be a problem. You might try installing the latest drivers from ESS but my prior set also worked fine. You know, Windows 95 has a very nasty habit of trying to install the ESS AudioDrive with the old Essfm.drv file and OPL2/OPL3 synthesis but this shouldn't prevent the device from responding under DirectX. I happen to keep the driver file (ESS .zip archive) on my HDD because of how often Windows will overwrite things. To reinstall you need to REMOVE the AudioDrive within Device Manager then, WITHOUT REBOOTING, go to Add/Remove New Hardware and install the 1688 AudioDrive (NOT the plug and play variety). ---------- > From: Costas S. Iliopoulos > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: DirectX Drivers for 365X 10.4 TFT > Date: Friday, October 18, 1996 7:29 AM > > I installed Microsoft's DirectX but the display drivers do not > work: I run a couple of games that make use of DirectX and they > complain that the "display drivers are not compatible with Windows > '95"! Any idea, where I can find DirectX compatible drivers with the > above model? > > I am not conviced that the audio (ESS) directX drivers work either... > but I have no evidence of that... > > > Thanks > Costas From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 19 08:43:31 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA115349010; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 08:43:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05573; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 08:41:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Oct 1996 08:36:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05064; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 08:36:46 -0400 Received: from vtaix.cc.vt.edu (adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu [198.82.161.244]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05057; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 08:36:44 -0400 Received: (from adamf@localhost) by vtaix.cc.vt.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA51030 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 08:36:33 -0400 From: Adam Finkelstein Message-Id: <199610191236.IAA51030@vtaix.cc.vt.edu> Subject: pcmcia modem and 755: problems setting up To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 08:36:33 +22324924 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello folks, Thank you for all your input and help so far. Bear with me now with my latest installment of my pcmcia saga... I ended up with a USR 28.8 modem, pcmcia. In trying to get the card to work, I have proceeded through ezplay.exe and this does _not_ recognize the card. It shows the socket as empty. I've also have used pcmciaon.exe. The card comes with it's own set-up software, which when run, goes through amending config.sys and still nothing happens--the software says it cannot find the card. The only thing I can think of that is happening is that I lack the card services drivers, but I've re-installed them from the thinkpad diskette, both from the IBM file archive and from what came with the machine and --nothing. Has anyone insight into what I might try next? Adam -- _________________ Adam Finkelstein adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu http://sunsite.unc.edu/bees/adamf/home.html From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 19 13:25:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA152475939; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 13:25:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27344; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 13:23:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Oct 1996 13:19:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26987; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 13:18:58 -0400 Received: from ctrvx1.Vanderbilt.Edu (ctrvx1.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.1.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26981; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 13:18:54 -0400 Received: from dial081.Vanderbilt.Edu by ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu (PMDF V5.0-7 #11488) id <01IATS0ZYJ0G8X8EU8@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 12:18:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 12:18:36 -0500 (CDT) Date-Warning: Date header was inserted by ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu From: gramlijf@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu (James Gramling) Subject: ibm 560 X-Sender: gramlijf@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IATS10K89E8X8EU8@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am considering the purchase of a 560, thw 133 Mhz model. I wonder if anyone has any comments or information regarding this machine? In particular, i'm interested in whether people have experienced problems with the keyboard (i remember something some time ago about certain keys sticking), or the trackpoint (the drift problem), and the overall quality of the machine. One group member said something about the 560 being made of different plastic than other tp's, and seeming less sturdy. Any comments would be appreciated greatly. Thanks, Jim Gramling From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 19 14:41:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA169610498; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 14:41:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02781; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 14:39:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Oct 1996 14:36:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02510; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 14:36:42 -0400 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02503; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 14:36:35 -0400 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA29655; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 11:36:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johnp (johnppp.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA12262 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Sat, 19 Oct 1996 11:36:17 -0700 From: "John Pham" Message-Id: <961019114558.ZM15350@johnp> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 11:45:49 -0700 In-Reply-To: Adam Finkelstein "pcmcia modem and 755: problems setting up" (Oct 19, 8:36am) References: <199610191236.IAA51030@vtaix.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0.1 (4.0.1 Sep 19 1996) To: Adam Finkelstein , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: pcmcia modem and 755: problems setting up Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Oct 19, 8:36am, Adam Finkelstein wrote: > Subject: pcmcia modem and 755: problems setting up > Hello folks, > Thank you for all your input and help so far. > Bear with me now with my latest installment of my pcmcia saga... > > I ended up with a USR 28.8 modem, pcmcia. > In trying to get the card to work, I have proceeded through ezplay.exe > and this does _not_ recognize the card. It shows the socket as empty. I've > also have used pcmciaon.exe. The card comes with it's own set-up > software, which when run, goes through amending config.sys and still > nothing happens--the software says it cannot find the card. > > The only thing I can think of that is happening is that I lack the card > services drivers, but I've re-installed them from the thinkpad diskette, > both from the IBM file archive and from what came with the machine and > --nothing. > > Has anyone insight into what I might try next? > > Adam > -- > _________________ > Adam Finkelstein > adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu > http://sunsite.unc.edu/bees/adamf/home.html >-- End of excerpt from Adam Finkelstein Are you running Win3.x? Maybe try not loading emm386.exe so it won't cause a memory conflict. Do you have another PC card to work with? I've a TP 760ELD which has a similar problem once in awhile, it just stop reconizing the cards eventhough nothing have changed and I'll have to re-install differrent drivers to get them back. This happened in both Win3.x and Win95. John From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 19 15:04:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA173281855; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 15:04:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04968; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 15:02:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Oct 1996 15:00:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04719; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 15:00:55 -0400 Received: from cactusnet.com (web1.cactusnet.com [207.33.71.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04700; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 15:00:50 -0400 Received: from bulldog (sandy.com [207.33.71.21]) by cactusnet.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA00668; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 11:58:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0b35.32.19961019120059.00cca3e4@mail.cactusnet.com> X-Sender: sandy@mail.cactusnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b35 (32) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 12:01:01 -0700 To: gramlijf@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu (James Gramling) From: Sandy Meltzer Subject: Re: ibm 560 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 12:18 PM 10/19/96 -0500, you wrote: >I am considering the purchase of a 560, thw 133 Mhz model. I wonder if >anyone has any comments or information regarding this machine? In >particular, i'm interested in whether people have experienced problems with >the keyboard (i remember something some time ago about certain keys >sticking), or the trackpoint (the drift problem), and the overall quality of >the machine. One group member said something about the 560 being made of >different plastic than other tp's, and seeming less sturdy. Any comments >would be appreciated greatly. Thanks, I've owned a 560 133Mhz TP since August 1 and LOVE it! I own other TPs and initially ordered a 760ED, but decided not to wait for IBM to get their production act together and the 560 was a perfect choice for me. I couldn't be happier. No, I've had absolutely no problems whatsoever with the keyboard and REALLY like it compared to other TP's I have (755CX, 701, etc.). It has a slightly mushy feel to it, but I'm very comfortable with it and haven't had ANY sticking keys. The trackpoint drift "problem" is typical of most TPs and NOT a problem according to IBM (just a "feature" of the technology:). It doesn't seem any worse or better then any other TP I've used. As far as the plastic case is concerned, yes...it is different than other TPs and MAYBE less sturdy. If I had to bet my life on which plastic case could take a drop to a hard floor better, I'd bet on the 755/760 case. The 560 plastic seems "lighter" then other models, but since I make a point of not dropping my TPs onto hard surfaces, it really isn't a problem for me. Also, based on the past experiences I've read here over the last few years, I don't think ANY TP is happy about being dropped. On the other hand, the 560 plastic seems to have a "smoother" finish and doesn't seem to attract or show fingerprints or dust/dirt like previous models. So, bottom line is I'm happy with the 560 plastic case just the way it is. I have noticed that the lithium-ion battery doesn't seem to last as long as advertised, but it could be faulty. I called IBM this week and they are in the process of sending me a replacement. I'll let you know if the replacement is better. Overall, the 560 is the best TP I've used to date and fits my needs perfectly...which I think is the most important consideration. I agonized over the idea of buying the 560 instead of the 760ED because I didn't want to lose functionality. Much to my surprise, this was not the case. The 12.1" TFT screen, keyboard, and overall performance of this 133Mhz Pentium-based 560 is superb. As a Webmaster and graphic designer, I run some very heavy-duty graphic applications including Photoshop, 3D Studio Max, and Lightwave 5.0 on the 560 and it performs VERY well. The video is reasonably fast and I don't notice much of a difference in speed compared to other systems I own and use. And frankly, 3D applications like these are probably better then any benchmark you can run because they can really eat up system resources quickly. Yet, the 560 can hold its own compared to any 133MHz Pentium desktop machines I own...even those with very fast hard drives and fast video (Imagine128 card). Sure, I'd like more disk space and faster drives, but I didn't buy the 560 to use as my main production system. For me, the 560 was the best choice and I'm happy I purchased it. It's light in weight compared to other TPs, yet I didn't have to give up much as a trade off. I don't need a built-in CDROM or floppy because I've been using Xircom's NetWave wireless LAN for the past couple of years and it allows me to stay in contact with my main production system via the wireless network. And, because it's fast, the wireless network allows me to install software from the CDROM on my main server over the network. I can also EASILY transfer software back and forth with my main system over the network, so the 560 is perfect for my needs....without the extra weight. Oh, another little advantage was cost. I took the extra money I saved NOT buying the 760ED (~$3,000) and was able to buy the components to build a wonderful DUAL-PPro200 production system. That's what I call more bang for the buck. :) Thanks IBM...you done good with the 560 and I highly recommend it. Best Regards, _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +----------.oOOo--()--oOOo.-----+--------------------------+ | CactusNET Communications | Reflections By Design | | Internet Service Provider | Web Design & Production | | San Jose, California | Cupertino, California | | 408-261-4676 | 408-257-2800 | | http://www.cactusnet.com | http://www.by-design.com | | "An Oasis In The CyberDesert" | "We Give You The World" | +------------------- Oooo.------+--------------------------+ .oooO ( ) zzz.|\ _,,,---,,_ ( ) ) / /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_.. \ ( (_/ |,*< ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-` \_) '---''(_/--' `-'\_) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 19 15:25:49 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA178523148; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 15:25:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06923; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 15:23:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Oct 1996 15:21:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06670; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 15:21:28 -0400 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06664; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 15:21:25 -0400 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA02783; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 12:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johnp (johnppp.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA13834 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Sat, 19 Oct 1996 12:21:13 -0700 From: "John Pham" Message-Id: <961019123052.ZM15350@johnp> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 12:30:48 -0700 In-Reply-To: gramlijf@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu (James Gramling) "ibm 560" (Oct 19, 12:18pm) References: <01IATS10K89E8X8EU8@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0.1 (4.0.1 Sep 19 1996) To: gramlijf@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu (James Gramling), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ibm 560 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Oct 19, 12:18pm, James Gramling wrote: > Subject: ibm 560 > I am considering the purchase of a 560, thw 133 Mhz model. I wonder if > anyone has any comments or information regarding this machine? In > particular, i'm interested in whether people have experienced problems with > the keyboard (i remember something some time ago about certain keys > sticking), or the trackpoint (the drift problem), and the overall quality of > the machine. One group member said something about the 560 being made of > different plastic than other tp's, and seeming less sturdy. Any comments > would be appreciated greatly. Thanks, > > Jim Gramling > >-- End of excerpt from James Gramling I've a 760ELD which has both the track point and keyboard problems you mentioned but can't say that about the 560 since I haven't use it. I'd look at the service and reliability ratings that PC Mags did for the notebooks review a couple months ago. Toshiba and Compaq machines were rated higher than IBM by users in the survey. IBM got an "average" which could mean 50% of the machines will require service. There's also a notebook torture test done by PC Weeks a few months ago if you're interested. John From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 19 19:28:46 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA210197725; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:28:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26830; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:27:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:15:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25337; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:15:50 -0400 Received: from mail3.voicenet.com (mail3.voicenet.com [207.103.0.45]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25324; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:15:42 -0400 Received: from philly105.voicenet.com (philly105.voicenet.com [207.103.16.184]) by mail3.voicenet.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA20681; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 09:12:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by philly105.voicenet.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BBBD9D.73416000@philly105.voicenet.com>; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 09:11:02 -0400 Message-Id: <01BBBD9D.73416000@philly105.voicenet.com> From: Alan Sukiennik To: "'Adam Finkelstein'" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: pcmcia modem and 755: problems setting up Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 09:10:51 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Make sure that the IRQ doesn't conflict with anything - particularly MWave. -Alan ---------- From: Adam Finkelstein[SMTP:adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu] Sent: Saturday, October 19, 1996 4:36 AM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: pcmcia modem and 755: problems setting up Hello folks, Thank you for all your input and help so far. Bear with me now with my latest installment of my pcmcia saga... I ended up with a USR 28.8 modem, pcmcia. In trying to get the card to work, I have proceeded through ezplay.exe and this does _not_ recognize the card. It shows the socket as empty. I've also have used pcmciaon.exe. The card comes with it's own set-up software, which when run, goes through amending config.sys and still nothing happens--the software says it cannot find the card. The only thing I can think of that is happening is that I lack the card services drivers, but I've re-installed them from the thinkpad diskette, both from the IBM file archive and from what came with the machine and --nothing. Has anyone insight into what I might try next? Adam -- _________________ Adam Finkelstein adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu http://sunsite.unc.edu/bees/adamf/home.html From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 19 19:53:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA212719223; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:53:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28278; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:52:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:51:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28174; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:51:07 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28167; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:51:04 -0400 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-h-52.usc.edu [128.125.224.52]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id QAA24791; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 16:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961019225100.0073d310@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 15:51:00 -0700 To: Sandy Meltzer From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: ibm 560 Cc: gramlijf@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu (James Gramling), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 12:01 PM 10/19/96 -0700, Sandy Meltzer wrote: >At 12:18 PM 10/19/96 -0500, you wrote: >>I am considering the purchase of a 560, thw 133 Mhz model. I wonder if >>anyone has any comments or information regarding this machine? In I'll chime in my thoughts along with Sandy's. Also, if there are list archives, I wrote all about my then-new 560 (P120) a couple months ago. >>particular, i'm interested in whether people have experienced problems with >>the keyboard (i remember something some time ago about certain keys >>sticking), or the trackpoint (the drift problem), and the overall quality of >>the machine. No sticky keys, and everybody with a ThinkPad has a "drift feature". ;-) But just keep your finger off of it you'll be fine--it resets like its supposed to. > One group member said something about the 560 being made of >>different plastic than other tp's, and seeming less sturdy. Any comments The key word here would be "seeming"--yes, it *is* made of a different plastic that some of the other TP's, but the truth is its a *better* plastic! I *wish* I could remember what article I read, but it cited the exact material the TP 560 casing was made of and it was some new polymer (snazzy name--can't recall what it was!) that was both stronger and lighter. If anything, an argument could be made that the 560 just might have a *better* casing than the other ThinkPads. At ay rate, the case is *nothing* to worry about. >No, I've had absolutely no problems whatsoever with the keyboard and REALLY >like it compared to other TP's I have (755CX, 701, etc.). It has a >slightly mushy feel to it, but I'm very comfortable with it and haven't had I concur with the "slightly mushy" comment, but you'll get used to it and come to realize the keyboard is really quite good. I'll have to admit its not *quite* the same caliber as my old 750C's keyboard, but its still very good. >I have noticed that the lithium-ion battery doesn't seem to last as long as >advertised, but it could be faulty. I called IBM this week and they are in >the process of sending me a replacement. I'll let you know if the >replacement is better. Barring Sandy's having a "special case" battery, I'd be inclined to essentially say that ALL ThinkPads have over-inflated battery claims. I think you can safely expect 2 1/2 hours on the battery. That's all I've *ever* been able to expect on any TP I've owned. One of my biggest beefs was way back when I bought my 750C, the *CLAIM* was "3.4 to 8 hours" on a battery--which was, of course, bogus. I never expected 8 hours, but I had assumed that I could expect at least the 3.4 hour "Minimum". It simply wasn't true. Again, 2 1/2 hours was the norm--almost a full HOUR less than was claimed to be the minimum. The only good part about this story is that my moaning to IBM about this fact got me a free battery (they didn't ask for my old one back, and essentially without admitting their marketing department *lied*, they could say "you must have a defective battery" and replaced it). >Overall, the 560 is the best TP I've used to date and fits my needs >perfectly...which I think is the most important consideration. I agonized >over the idea of buying the 560 instead of the 760ED because I didn't want >to lose functionality. Much to my surprise, this was not the case. The I concur. In my opinion, only people who are simply *dying* for that built-in CD-ROM would really want a 760 (or big, heavy machines of that ilk). Otherwise, unless you *really* have to eek out those few extra MIPS that a 760 would give you (mainly from a secondary cache). The 560 will save you nearly 3 pounds and $3,000 for your trouble. (Odd, isn't it?) >Oh, another little advantage was cost. I took the extra money I saved NOT >buying the 760ED (~$3,000) and was able to buy the components to build a Sandy illustrates my point. :-) ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 19 20:29:09 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA217991349; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 20:29:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01880; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 20:27:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Oct 1996 20:25:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01652; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 20:25:14 -0400 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01645; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 20:25:12 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu (yu1.yu.edu [129.98.200.100]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA21843 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 20:25:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA54915; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 20:23:39 -0400 Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 20:23:39 -0400 From: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu (Joshua Hosseinof) Message-Id: <9610200023.AA54915@yu1.yu.edu> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Mwave 2.22 drivers Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Mwave driver version 2.22 is on the ibm ftp site for Windows 95, Win 3.1, and OS2. Windows NT drivers are at version 2.21. Also a new version of the midi samples files is there. I am downloading them right now to see if they sound any better. The URL is ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles, all the relevant files begin with mw. Its pretty easy to figure out which ones you need. For descriptions read the file 0listing.txt in the same directory. Josh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 19 21:26:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA240734803; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 21:26:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07366; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 21:25:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Oct 1996 21:22:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07130; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 21:22:37 -0400 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07124; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 21:22:33 -0400 Received: from ppp-jesse (tuna-48.ppp.hooked.net [206.80.8.176]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA25030 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0b16.32.19961019182108.006e5804@mailhost.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b16 (32) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:22:21 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: jesse montrose Subject: Re: ibm 560 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 03:51 PM 10/19/96 -0700, Randy Whittle wrote: >>> One group member said something about the 560 being made of >>>different plastic than other tp's, and seeming less sturdy. Any comments > > The key word here would be "seeming"--yes, it *is* made of a >different plastic that some of the other TP's, but the truth is its a >*better* plastic! I *wish* I could remember what article I read, but it >cited the exact material the TP 560 casing was made of and it was some new >polymer (snazzy name--can't recall what it was!) that was both stronger and >lighter. If anything, an argument could be made that the 560 just might >have a *better* casing than the other ThinkPads. > > At ay rate, the case is *nothing* to worry about. I'm the guilty group member, but I didn't mean to imply that it was more breakable, just that I didn't like the feel, it was purely aesthetic, and based on about 3 minutes with the machine :) As another data point, I didn't like the feel of my 755, going from a 720. _____________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.spine.com After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 19 23:33:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA259732419; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 23:33:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA18438; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 23:32:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 19 Oct 1996 23:29:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17996; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 23:29:07 -0400 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17990; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 23:29:05 -0400 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-4 #9830) id <01IAU88ZBUZ4A8CICH@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Sat, 19 Oct 1996 20:29:01 MST Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 20:22:06 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: pcmcia modem and 755: problems setting up In-Reply-To: "Message dated Sat, 19 Oct 1996 08:36:33 +0000 (EDT)" <199610191236.IAA51030@vtaix.cc.vt.edu> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IAU9534DCUA8CICH@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > In trying to get the card to work, I have proceeded through ezplay.exe > and this does _not_ recognize the card. It shows the socket as empty. I don't have my 755 handy to check but I think there's a set-up option to turn off the power to the the pcmcia cards - check and be sure that's set to supply power to them. Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 20 07:55:18 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA034792517; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 07:55:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA03352; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 07:54:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Oct 1996 07:48:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA02624; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 07:48:01 -0400 Received: from server6.rad.net.id (root@mail2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA02618; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 07:47:57 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@news1.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by server6.rad.net.id (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02893 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 17:49:18 +0700 (WIB) Received: from server2.rad.net.id.rad.net.id (dyn1189a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.189]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id RAA07586 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 17:49:34 +0700 (WIB) Message-Id: <326A03C8.597F@rad.net.id> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 17:49:44 +0700 From: Sibko X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 701C/Win95 + Iomega ZIP Drive Parallel Port Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, Has anybody tried on using Iomega ZIP Drive Parallel with Win95 on TP 701C before ?. The Guest95 could not find the ZIP drive !. Strangely I managed to print through the printer pass through. I used the Multiport II and currently set the Parallel to EPP, IRQ 7. I also tried other combination like ECP, Parallel 1, 2, alt w/ no luck. I also tried manually installing the drive as instructed in the Guest95 help file. BTW my 'Install software on the 1.44 floppy is ver 3.03', and strangely I could not find the Setup95.exe like the manual says. I assume the setup95.exe must be in the ZIP tool disk that comes w/ the drive. Any ideas. Thanks my system is TP701C 16mb ram, 540hd, latest BIOS(12/15/95),modem, ESS soundcard. -- bsabini@rad.net.id From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 20 08:20:53 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA037764052; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 08:20:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05893; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 08:20:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Oct 1996 08:18:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05752; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 08:18:50 -0400 Received: from epoch.geol.sc.edu (epoch.geol.sc.edu [129.252.31.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA05746; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 08:18:47 -0400 Received: from flash.cosm.sc.edu by epoch.geol.sc.edu (4.1/6.0s-FWP); id AA13747; Sun, 20 Oct 96 05:32:32 EDT Received: from localhost by flash.cosm.sc.edu (8.6.12) id JAA00690; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 09:32:41 GMT Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 05:32:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Waldemar Puszkarz To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Linux on TP370 and TP750? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, Can I run Linux on these machines? Thanks! Waldemar From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 20 10:02:07 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA050520127; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 10:02:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13925; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 10:00:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Oct 1996 09:57:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13407; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 09:57:11 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13401; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 09:57:09 -0400 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (ssh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA01511; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 07:57:46 -0600 Message-Id: <199610201357.HAA01511@aspen.wwsi.com> To: Waldemar Puszkarz Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Linux on TP370 and TP750? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 20 Oct 1996 05:32:41 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 07:57:46 -0600 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It certainly runs on the 750. I don't know about the 370... ssh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 20 13:15:29 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA069921728; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 13:15:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28490; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 13:14:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Oct 1996 13:11:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28341; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 13:10:59 -0400 Received: from ucs.orst.edu (UCS.ORST.EDU [128.193.4.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28334; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 13:10:56 -0400 Received: by ucs.orst.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/13Sep96-1023AM) id AA27429; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 10:10:44 -0700 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 10:10:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Mosley To: Sibko Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 701C/Win95 + Iomega ZIP Drive Parallel Port In-Reply-To: <326A03C8.597F@rad.net.id> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Has anybody tried on using Iomega ZIP Drive Parallel with Win95 on > TP 701C before ?. The Guest95 could not find the ZIP drive !. > Strangely I managed to print through the printer pass through. It sounds like you are having the exact problem I had settting up the PP Zip on my TP with Win95. > I also tried manually installing the drive as instructed in the > Guest95 help file. BTW my 'Install software on the 1.44 floppy is > ver 3.03', and strangely I could not find the Setup95.exe like the > manual says. I assume the setup95.exe must be in the ZIP tool disk > that comes w/ the drive. Correct, the documentation is obviously incorrect, because there _is_ no Setup95.exe on any version of the install floppy, it is on the Zip Tools disk. If you get the latest version of the Zip Tools software from Iomega and look at the following web page, this should solve your problem: http://www.iomega.com/support/techs/zip/why072.html In a Nutshell here is what I did to get my PP Zip setup on my TP. 1) Use the "Add New Hardware" feature of Win95 to detect the ZIP drive; 2) Make sure there are no IRQ conflicts by checking in the device manager in Win95; 3) Once Win95 has detected your Zip drive, copy the contents of your WIN95Stuff Zip Tools directory to your C:\ drive; 4) Restart Win95 with your Zip Drive UNPLUGGED; 5) Run the setup95 program from your hard drive; 6) Restart Win95 once again with your Zip Drive plugged back in again; 7) You should have a working setup. You may have to use the BIOS setup program on the Thinkpad to make sure there are no conflicting devices. Just use the cmd F1 combination. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 20 16:32:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA090563556; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 16:32:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14344; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 16:28:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Oct 1996 16:22:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13769; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 16:22:50 -0400 Received: from mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.129.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13763; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 16:22:47 -0400 Received: from LOCALNAME ([207.146.194.95]) by mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA14242 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 20:22:08 +0000 Message-Id: <326AA562.1590@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 15:19:14 -0700 From: Anita Schrodt X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: new TSR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Folks I just installed the utilities diskette upgrade, which threw a new TSR into my win.ini load line: STARTTIM.EXE. Can't find a reference to it, not sure what it is, would like to remove it, doesn't seem to hang anything up if it's not there. Anyone know what it does? (755CSE, using Windows for WorkGroups). PS - For anyone who cares, Mwave 2.22 upgrade went smoothly. Freed up a little space on the hard drive too. Thanks. Anita From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 20 18:13:53 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA100769626; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:13:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25543; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:11:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:07:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24997; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:07:15 -0400 Received: from ctrvx1.Vanderbilt.Edu (ctrvx1.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.1.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24868; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:06:51 -0400 Received: from dial022.Vanderbilt.Edu by ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu (PMDF V5.0-7 #11488) id <01IAVFVVZ8JK8XAWVA@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 16:53:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 16:53:15 -0500 (CDT) Date-Warning: Date header was inserted by ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu From: gramlijf@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu (James Gramling) Subject: 560 follow-up X-Sender: gramlijf@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IAVFVWKXSI8XAWVA@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I appreciate all the help on my 560 questions. I neglected to ask one more question, which is perhaps more important than the others I did ask: does the 560 get hot or unreasonably warm during use? I know this has been a problem with some of the big 760's, to the point that some have said they cannot use them on their lap. Is this a problem with the 560? Once again, any responses will be greatly appreciated. Jim Gramling From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 20 18:47:00 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA104021619; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:46:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00996; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:45:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:42:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00749; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:42:40 -0400 Received: from stone.tic.ch (stone.tic.ch [193.193.144.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00734; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:42:28 -0400 Received: from luzern_ppp59.tic.ch (luzern_ppp59.tic.ch [193.193.148.61]) by stone.tic.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA23237 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 00:44:56 +0200 (MDT) Received: by luzern_ppp59.tic.ch with Microsoft Mail id <01BBBEE8.7EA8C360@luzern_ppp59.tic.ch>; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 00:40:44 +-100 Message-Id: <01BBBEE8.7EA8C360@luzern_ppp59.tic.ch> From: Andrew Richards To: "'mrcwdnbm@calweb.com'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: backup Iomega vs. ? Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 22:06:28 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Marc, I've got a Colorado backup system that attaches to the parallel port. And I have to say that I've been very disappointed with it. It takes ages for most operations, and as mentioned in another posting, the 800Mb claim is bogus: I can more or less 'just' get my 540Mbyte disk onto a single tape: The compression is about 1.4 or 1.5. That's set for maximum compression, not maximum speed. By far the most annoying thing is the time taken to format a tape - this is about 3 hours, which is longer than the backup itself - which in turn takes about 2.5 hours. That's just too long for a backup. And the software just wouldn't work under Windows 3.1 - I had to use the DOS version instead, and do a lot of work with the config.sys and autoexec.bat. In Windows 95 at least it's much easier. Oh yes, my machine is a 701. Summary: This is not a viable backup option - it may be cheap but you'll need to invest a lot of your own time. Spend more money and don't do anything like this via the parallel port but via SCSI. If you really want to do something via the parallel port, IOMega may be better, because their software seems to include an option to speed up parallel port data transfer - presumably by compressing the data going into the parallel port and then decompressing it again when it arrives at the Ditto drive. cheers, Andrew. ---------- From: Marc Weidenbaum[SMTP:mrcwdnbm@calweb.com] Sent: Montag, 14. Oktober 1996 23:54 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: backup Iomega vs. ? What do you all use for harddrive backup, in particular 701 users? I was looking at this Iomega Ditto 800. Any feedback (experience with the Iomega, alternates) would be appreciated. Thanks. -- Marc Weidenbaum mrcwdnbm@calweb.com http://www.calweb.com/~mrcwdnbm From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 20 18:54:08 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA105232047; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:54:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01590; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:51:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:50:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01395; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:50:28 -0400 Received: from stone.tic.ch (stone.tic.ch [193.193.144.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01382; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:50:22 -0400 Received: from luzern_ppp59.tic.ch (luzern_ppp59.tic.ch [193.193.148.61]) by stone.tic.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA23268; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 00:52:04 +0200 (MDT) Received: by luzern_ppp59.tic.ch with Microsoft Mail id <01BBBEE9.7E0C18C0@luzern_ppp59.tic.ch>; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 00:47:53 +-100 Message-Id: <01BBBEE9.7E0C18C0@luzern_ppp59.tic.ch> From: Andrew Richards To: "'Adam Finkelstein'" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: pcmcia modem and 755: problems setting up Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 00:46:52 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I bought a USR 28.8 Sportster X-Jack modem recently. I couldn't work out why I it didn't seem happy with a USR 28.8 PCMCIA modem driver until I looked at the underside of the card. There it mentioned Megahertz - so I tried using a Megahertz driver and BINGO everything worked a treat (I used the Megahertz XJ2288 driver in Windows 95). Maybe that'll work for you too. I didn't use any of the software supplied with the card, just the drivers already provided with Windows 95. I plan to write a few messages to the list soon on installing this modem, on installing a Bus Toaster with Jaz drive and Reno (remaindered) CD-ROM. Most of this with Windows 3.1 and Windows 95. Maybe Linux soon. Watch this space. Oh, everything on a 701CS. cheers, Andrew. ---------- From: Adam Finkelstein[SMTP:adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu] Sent: Samstag, 19. Oktober 1996 09:36 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: pcmcia modem and 755: problems setting up Hello folks, Thank you for all your input and help so far. Bear with me now with my latest installment of my pcmcia saga... I ended up with a USR 28.8 modem, pcmcia. In trying to get the card to work, I have proceeded through ezplay.exe and this does _not_ recognize the card. It shows the socket as empty. I've also have used pcmciaon.exe. The card comes with it's own set-up software, which when run, goes through amending config.sys and still nothing happens--the software says it cannot find the card. The only thing I can think of that is happening is that I lack the card services drivers, but I've re-installed them from the thinkpad diskette, both from the IBM file archive and from what came with the machine and --nothing. Has anyone insight into what I might try next? Adam -- _________________ Adam Finkelstein adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu http://sunsite.unc.edu/bees/adamf/home.html From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 20 19:48:37 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA111775316; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 19:48:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05288; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 19:46:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Oct 1996 19:38:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04767; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 19:38:11 -0400 Received: from psa.pencom.com (psa.pencom.com [204.217.199.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04761; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 19:38:06 -0400 Received: from dynamic-1.async.pyramid.com (dynamic-1.async.pyramid.com [129.214.130.11]) by psa.pencom.com (Hah!/nope) with SMTP id SAA00017; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:37:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: by dynamic-1.async.pyramid.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BBBEB5.BFB04960@dynamic-1.async.pyramid.com>; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:37:29 -0500 Message-Id: <01BBBEB5.BFB04960@dynamic-1.async.pyramid.com> From: Rick Tait To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , "'Joshua Hosseinof'" Subject: RE: Mwave 2.22 drivers Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:37:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone happen to know when (if???) IBM will release pertinent = drivers for Windows NT 4.0? I'm running it on my 755cx, and I *do* have = the sound portion of Mwave going, but I just cannot get it to recognise = or find the modem. Ack. Thank goodness I have a Megahertz 28.8 to keep = me going!!! .rickt ---------- From: Joshua Hosseinof[SMTP:hosseino@yu1.yu.edu] Sent: Saturday, October 19, 1996 7:24 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Mwave 2.22 drivers Mwave driver version 2.22 is on the ibm ftp site for Windows 95, Win = 3.1, and OS2. Windows NT drivers are at version 2.21. Also a new version of the midi samples files is there. I am downloading them right now to see if they sound any better. The URL is ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles, all the relevant files begin with mw. Its pretty easy to figure out which ones you need. For descriptions read the file 0listing.txt in the same directory. Josh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 20 22:03:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA140053412; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 22:03:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17252; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 22:02:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Oct 1996 21:55:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16513; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 21:55:09 -0400 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16500; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 21:55:05 -0400 Received: from ibm.net (slip166-72-219-141.ny.us.ibm.net [166.72.219.141]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA02039; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 21:54:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 21:50:19 -0400 () From: Joshua Hosseinof Reply-To: Joshua Hosseinof To: Rick Tait Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: Mwave 2.22 drivers In-Reply-To: <01BBBEB5.BFB04960@dynamic-1.async.pyramid.com> Message-Id: Sender: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Mwave drivers for NT are available and have been for over a month. The url is as always: ftp://ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles the files are: mwavent1.exe, mwavent2.exe and mwaventx.doc Note what I wrote before: > Windows NT drivers are at version 2.21. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 20 22:25:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA146354744; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 22:25:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19547; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 22:23:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 20 Oct 1996 22:21:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19373; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 22:21:06 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19360; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 22:21:02 -0400 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-f-16.usc.edu [128.125.223.88]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id TAA02375; Sun, 20 Oct 1996 19:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961021012014.0076bef0@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:20:14 -0700 To: gramlijf@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu (James Gramling) From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: 560 follow-up Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 04:53 PM 10/20/96 -0500, James Gramling wrote: >I appreciate all the help on my 560 questions. I neglected to ask one more >question, which is perhaps more important than the others I did ask: does >the 560 get hot or unreasonably warm during use? Not at all. I can't recall who it was offhand, but when I first looked for a 560, someone on this list suggested a couple other machines I should consider. One of them was the Compaq Armada (I think). One of the features he said beat the 560 hands-down was the fact that it has some better/snazzy heat-sinking system that kept the thing cool (I don't recall the details). My response was, "Who cares? The 560 doesn't get hot in the first place!" It *does* get fairly warm, but not particularly hot (like some of these other TP's sure do). ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 03:47:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA197384058; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 03:47:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14738; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 03:46:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 03:42:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14416; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 03:42:47 -0400 Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA14410; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 03:42:45 -0400 From: Received: by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA02798 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu(thinkpad@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 03:42:14 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 03:42:14 -0400 Message-Id: <961021034214_215347455@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (thinkpad@cs.utk.edu) Subject: Re: Mwave 2.22 drivers Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In a message dated 96-10-20 22:01:43 EDT, you write: << thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (thinkpad@cs.utk.edu) >> I am running Win95 on my TP755cd. Thinking of installing the Mwave 2.22. What is are the changes from 2.0. Additionally, I understand there are new midi samples. How many disks are there and from what site may I download them. Are they worth installing? Thank you From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 04:09:55 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA200415394; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 04:09:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA16869; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 04:08:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 04:07:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA16701; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 04:07:24 -0400 Received: from hpserv0.cs.uit.no (hpserv0.cs.UiT.No [129.242.16.105]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA16694; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 04:07:22 -0400 Received: from haralds.cs.uit.no by hpserv0.cs.uit.no with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/IOH-1.0) id AA253205233; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:07:14 +0200 Received: by haralds.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/HJ/Task-5) id AA024895233; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:07:13 +0200 From: harald@staff.cs.uit.no (Harald Skotnes) Message-Id: <199610210807.AA024895233@haralds.cs.uit.no> Subject: Virus (fwd) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:07:13 +0200 (METDST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23GIJ-4] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu content-type:text/plain;charset=us-ascii mime-version:1.0 I do not know if it's true, but be warned: >From: Rich Carpenter >To: Frederick Shaul (3Dlabs); Ace Van Horn (Acuity); Ron Gaither >(Camco-GM); >Matt Welker (ElectroGig-MI); Dave Dippon (FirstDay); Dave Hurst >(FirstDay); >Jason Gress (Intervision); Steve Bos (Intervision); Del Hunter >(NeTpower); >John Casu (NeTpower); Rael Morris (NeTpower) >Subject: new virus alert >Date: Tuesday, October 15, 1996 3:46PM > >REGARDING new virus alert > > >This came our way today and we wanted to forward it to everyone we could. >Happy >computing. > > >PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO ANYONE YOU KNOW. > >DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY FILE NAMED PKZIP300 REGARDLESS OF EXTENSION. > >A NEW Trojan Horse Virus has emerged on the Internet with the name >PKZIP300.ZIP, so named as to give the impression that this file is a >new version of the PKZIP software used to "zip" compressed files. DO >NOT DOWNLOAD THIS FILE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!! If you install or >expand the file, the virus WILL wipe your hard disk clean and affect >modems at 14.4 and higher. This is an extremely destructive virus & >there is NOT yet a way of cleaning this one up. > >The latest version of PKZIP is version 2.04g. > --Harald Skotnes From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 04:19:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA200905961; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 04:19:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA18003; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 04:18:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 04:17:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA17895; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 04:17:18 -0400 Received: from cello.Opus1.COM (unIDENTified@Cello.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA17884; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 04:17:15 -0400 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-4 #9830) id <01IAVWW496DSAFTRXE@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 01:16:40 MST Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 01:03:28 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: Mwave 2.22 drivers In-Reply-To: "Message dated Mon, 21 Oct 1996 03:42:14 -0400" <961021034214_215347455@emout10.mail.aol.com> Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01IAVXH2LZPCAFTRXE@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > I am running Win95 on my TP755cd. Thinking of installing the Mwave 2.22. > What is are the changes from 2.0. It's now one combined version for both dos and windows, connectivity with modems the violate the V.34 standard is improved, not being able to play some .wav files when using the 28800 modem is said to be fixed, an uninstall utility has been added, some diagnostic software is included, a suspend problem has been fixed, etc.. > Additionally, I understand there are new > midi samples. Correct. > How many disks are there and from what site may I download > them. Six for the midi stuff, three for the Mwave and one doc file, mww31222.doc. Ftp to ftp.pc.ibm.com and get /pub/pcbbs/mobiles/ 0listing.txt from which you can look up the appropriate files for whatever operating system(s) you are using. The file names all begin with mww... > Are they worth installing? It works fine for me. I can now connect at 28.8 through a pbx system that never did better than 26.4 before. Not a big deal but every little bit helps. Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 04:44:14 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA203287453; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 04:44:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19739; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 04:37:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 04:36:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19641; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 04:36:09 -0400 Received: from sisyphus.cs.kun.nl (sisyphus.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19635; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 04:36:06 -0400 Received: from atlas by sisyphus.cs.kun.nl via atlas.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.42] with SMTP for id KAA01094 (8.7.6/3.2); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:35:32 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: mauricek@cs.kun.nl Message-Id: <326B35D3.41C67EA6@cs.kun.nl> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:35:31 +0200 From: Maurice klein Gebbinck Organization: University of Nijmegen, Computing Science Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3_U1 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: IRQ's TP701c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello all, Yesterday I finally succeeded in establishing a Direct Cable Connection between my ThinkPad 701C and a friend's desktop. I spent several hours on this relatively simple task because of an IRQ-conflict between LPT1 and the Audio System. After changing the IRQ for the Audio System from IRQ 7 to IRQ 10, as described in ftp://204.146.167.81/pub/pccbbs/corrective_service/wn95701.txt, the DCC worked smoothly. However, I lost the sound effects of Doom2. The configuration program of Doom2 said that the IRQ for the Audio System should not be higher than 9. Has anyone encountered this problem before, and if so, could you e-mail me your IRQ settings please? In the system section of the control panel I saw that there existed some more IRQ-conflicts. Although they didn't bother me before, can anyone point me to some information on solving these? I am sure there is some sort of strategy one can follow. Best regards, Maurice ps System: TP701C/DX4-75/8MB/540MB PP Zip Windows95 -- Maurice klein Gebbinck University of Nijmegen, Computing Science Institute Toernooiveld 1, 6525 ED Nijmegen, The Netherlands Phone +31 24 3652710, Fax +31 24 3553450 http://www.cs.kun.nl/~mauricek From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 10:30:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA244648229; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:30:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12021; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:20:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:11:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11237; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:11:58 -0400 Received: from dmog10.bell.ca (dmog10.bell.ca [198.235.69.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11218; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:11:28 -0400 Received: from dcoc41.qc.bell.ca (dcoc41.qc.bell.ca [142.119.11.11]) by dmog10.bell.ca with ESMTP id KAA18382; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:10:42 -0400 Received: from dcocps.qc.bell.ca (dcocps.QC.Bell.CA [198.235.99.39]) by dcoc41.qc.bell.ca with SMTP id KAA23697; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:06:06 -0400 Received: from cmxc5q (cmxc5q.QC.Bell.CA) by dcocps.qc.bell.ca (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA13644; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:10:39 -0400 Message-Id: <9610211410.AA13644@dcocps.qc.bell.ca> From: "Eric Trepanier" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" , "MWave Mailing List" Subject: Use of a modem on a digital (?) line... Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:12:17 -0400 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello everyone, I'm not sure I've got this right but here in our offices (Montreal), we have two kinds of phones / lines. The first kind has a typical phone with no LCD display. I can connect my modem (Mwave) in this line and dial out without any problems. The other kind of line has a phone called "Meridian" with an LCD display display to show Caller ID info (name / number). When I plug my modem in this line, it doesn't work. Why doesn't it work and is there anything I can do about this? My boss who also has a ThinkPad was waiting in a garage the other day. The garage owner told my boss he could use his office to work while his car was being repaired. My boss tried to use his modem to get his email, but it just wouldn't dial-out. The phone in the office was the same kind of "Meridian" we have here. This is a very annoying situation and my boss wants me to find out if there is a fix for this... Thanks for any pertinent info... Eric From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 10:47:48 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA248739261; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:47:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13066; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:35:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:32:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12780; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:32:19 -0400 Received: from sgigate.sgi.com (sgigate.SGI.COM [204.94.209.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12774; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:32:08 -0400 Received: from specular.tor.aw.sgi.com by sgigate.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/940406a.SGI) id HAA01384; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 07:31:46 -0700 Received: by specular.tor.aw.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA28389; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:29:31 -0400 From: "Eugene Fiume" Message-Id: <9610211029.ZM28387@specular.tor.aw.sgi.com> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:29:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: "Eric Trepanier" "Use of a modem on a digital (?) line..." (Oct 21, 10:12am) References: <9610211410.AA13644@dcocps.qc.bell.ca> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: "Eric Trepanier" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" , "MWave Mailing List" Subject: Re: Use of a modem on a digital (?) line... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Oct 21, 10:12am, Eric Trepanier wrote: > The other kind of line has a phone called "Meridian" with an LCD display > display to show Caller ID info (name / number). When I plug my modem in > this line, it doesn't work. Why doesn't it work and is there anything I > can do about this? It's probably a digital line, so the line transmission characteristics are completely different. There are, however, devices on the market that go between analogue and digital lines. You should be careful not to plug your modem into such a line. Apparently it's pretty easy to fry it. Regards, Eugene Fiume. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 11:02:12 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA252760114; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:01:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14071; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:48:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:47:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13960; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:47:05 -0400 Received: from is2.hk.super.net (root@[202.14.67.237]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13946; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:46:55 -0400 Received: from mango (max3-212.hk.super.net [202.64.19.212]) by is2.hk.super.net (8.7.6/8.7.1) with SMTP id WAA05178; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:45:26 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: <326B8D7C.67BF@hk.super.net> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:49:32 +0800 From: Byron Lee Reply-To: byron@HK.Super.NET Organization: Hong Kong Telecom X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01b1 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Trepanier Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Use of a modem on a digital (?) line... References: <9610211410.AA13644@dcocps.qc.bell.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The phone lines (with LCD) that your modem was attached are probably digital phone line. Your company uses the NorTel PABX which, basically, has 2 kinds of extendion, digital and analog. Modem can only be used on analog phone line. Regards, Byron PS. Some models of the NorTel phone which have LCD display are actually analog phone. I did try one which can connect to 2 different parties at the same time. Eric Trepanier wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I'm not sure I've got this right but here in our offices (Montreal), we > have two kinds of phones / lines. The first kind has a typical phone with > no LCD display. I can connect my modem (Mwave) in this line and dial out > without any problems. > > The other kind of line has a phone called "Meridian" with an LCD display > display to show Caller ID info (name / number). When I plug my modem in > this line, it doesn't work. Why doesn't it work and is there anything I > can do about this? > > My boss who also has a ThinkPad was waiting in a garage the other day. The > garage owner told my boss he could use his office to work while his car was > being repaired. My boss tried to use his modem to get his email, but it > just wouldn't dial-out. The phone in the office was the same kind of > "Meridian" we have here. This is a very annoying situation and my boss > wants me to find out if there is a fix for this... > > Thanks for any pertinent info... > > Eric From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 11:14:17 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA255400844; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:14:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15748; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:08:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:06:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15591; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:06:43 -0400 Received: from mail3.voicenet.com (mail3.voicenet.com [207.103.0.45]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15574; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:06:35 -0400 Received: from sukienna (philly134.voicenet.com [207.103.16.213]) by mail3.voicenet.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA23964; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:08:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199610211508.LAA23964@mail3.voicenet.com> From: "Alan Sukiennik" To: "Eric Trepanier" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" , "MWave Mailing List" Subject: Re: Use of a modem on a digital (?) line... Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:07:47 -0400 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu You can consider yourself very lucky if your modem is still operational. Plugging a modem into a digital outlet is a death wish for the device. There are converters on the market that will help you to accomplish what you need. -Alan ---------- > From: Eric Trepanier > To: ThinkPad Mailing List ; MWave Mailing List > Subject: Use of a modem on a digital (?) line... > Date: Monday, October 21, 1996 10:12 AM > > Hello everyone, > > I'm not sure I've got this right but here in our offices (Montreal), we > have two kinds of phones / lines. The first kind has a typical phone with > no LCD display. I can connect my modem (Mwave) in this line and dial out > without any problems. > > The other kind of line has a phone called "Meridian" with an LCD display > display to show Caller ID info (name / number). When I plug my modem in > this line, it doesn't work. Why doesn't it work and is there anything I > can do about this? > > My boss who also has a ThinkPad was waiting in a garage the other day. The > garage owner told my boss he could use his office to work while his car was > being repaired. My boss tried to use his modem to get his email, but it > just wouldn't dial-out. The phone in the office was the same kind of > "Meridian" we have here. This is a very annoying situation and my boss > wants me to find out if there is a fix for this... > > Thanks for any pertinent info... > > Eric > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 12:13:31 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA262774403; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 12:13:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19785; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:57:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:53:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19421; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:53:48 -0400 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (root@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19023; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:49:26 -0400 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id LAA13601; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:45:31 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:45:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Christian Carey To: Maurice klein Gebbinck Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IRQ's TP701c In-Reply-To: <326B35D3.41C67EA6@cs.kun.nl> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Monday, 21st October 1996, Maurice klein Gebbinck wrote: > Yesterday I finally succeeded in establishing a Direct Cable > Connection between my ThinkPad 701C and a friend's desktop. > I spent several hours on this relatively simple task because of an > IRQ-conflict between LPT1 and the Audio System. After changing the > IRQ for the Audio System from IRQ 7 to IRQ 10, as described in > ftp://204.146.167.81/pub/pccbbs/corrective_service/wn95701.txt, > the DCC worked smoothly. However, I lost the sound effects > of Doom2. The configuration program of Doom2 said that the IRQ > for the Audio System should not be higher than 9. Has anyone > encountered this problem before, and if so, could you e-mail me > your IRQ settings please? What I've done on my 701C is to keep the audio at 7; change the MultiPort II parallel to 7; and change the diskette/parallel to 5. This allows audio applications to coexist with parallel transfers without requiring the MultiPort II to be attached. > In the system section of the control panel I saw that there > existed some more IRQ-conflicts. Although they didn't bother me > before, can anyone point me to some information on solving > these? I am sure there is some sort of strategy one can follow. Generally speaking, just making sure that each device has its own IRQ should generally work. In my case, I have a PCMCIA CDROM at 10, a PCMCIA NIC at 11, and a PCMCIA modem at 4 (COM1) because I've disabled the internal modem. The PostScript file 701_TIPS.PS [or its text version, 701_TIPS.TXT] in the "mobiles" section of the IBM PC FTP site has a section on IRQ usage which you may find helpful. Regards, Christian. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 13:07:46 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA270997665; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:07:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26119; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:03:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 12:57:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25142; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 12:57:44 -0400 Received: from psi.com (psi.com [192.67.6.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25105; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 12:57:17 -0400 Received: from qtny.quantime.com by psi.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI) id MAA23913; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 12:54:54 -0400 Received: from storm.quantime.com by qtny.quantime.com; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 12:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from quantime.co.uk by storm.quantime.com; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:50:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tiree.quantime.co.uk (tiree) by quantime.co.uk; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 15:47:54 +0100 Received: from mann by tiree.quantime.co.uk; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 15:50:01 +0100 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961021144049.019ab8f4@tiree.quantime.co.uk> X-Sender: ajudd@tiree.quantime.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 15:40:49 +0100 To: "Eugene Fiume" , "Eric Trepanier" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" , "MWave Mailing List" From: Alex Judd Subject: Re: Use of a modem on a digital (?) line... Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Yep. These are digital phones run off of cards within the PBX. The lines provide added information such as flashing voice mail, name/caller ID etc. and the signals passed are quite different from normal analogue/digital lines. Analogue modems don't stand a chance with these.. I don't know the best way to check what type of line is which, as they both use the same cabling structure, but I guess avoid any phones with the words "Meridian" or any other PBX manafacturer blazened over them, or with special digital features. At 10:29 AM 10/21/96 -0400, Eugene Fiume wrote: >On Oct 21, 10:12am, Eric Trepanier wrote: > >> The other kind of line has a phone called "Meridian" with an LCD display >> display to show Caller ID info (name / number). When I plug my modem in >> this line, it doesn't work. Why doesn't it work and is there anything I >> can do about this? > >It's probably a digital line, so the line transmission characteristics >are completely different. There are, however, devices on the market >that go between analogue and digital lines. > >You should be careful not to plug your modem into such a line. >Apparently it's pretty easy to fry it. > >Regards, >Eugene Fiume. > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 14:03:30 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA278151008; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:03:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03768; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:55:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:52:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03433; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:52:47 -0400 Received: from netcom8.netcom.com (phr@netcom8.netcom.com [192.100.81.117]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03419; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:52:39 -0400 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom8.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id KAA07493; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:52:32 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:52:32 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199610211752.KAA07493@netcom8.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: re: what do you use for backup Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I use a QLogic PCMCIA scsi card plugged into an HP DDS DAT drive and GNU tar. But I think I'm going to switch to backing up my laptop on my desktop computer, via a pcmcia ethernet card. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 14:29:57 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA282292593; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:29:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06935; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:18:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:15:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06496; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:14:59 -0400 Received: from kodakr.kodak.com (kodakr.kodak.com [150.220.251.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06440; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:14:39 -0400 Received: from CLAUDIA ([129.126.232.4]) by kodakr.kodak.com with SMTP id AA02970 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:13:40 -0400 Message-Id: <199610211813.AA02970@kodakr.kodak.com> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 15:09:00 -0400 From: "King, Randall" Subject: PKZip question To: THINKPAD X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetConnex V4.00a)/MIME Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This has been a bug that has bugged me for a long time. Has anyone had any success using PKZip and spanning disks on a 750 drive? It seems that the problem is in that fact that the 750 has the 2.88M floppy drive and PKZip doesn't understand that media type. Is there something that can be done to 'fake out' the system to report the floppy as a standard 1.44M? Thanks... RK From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 14:31:32 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA282952678; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:31:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08569; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:26:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:24:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07829; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:24:30 -0400 Received: from mail.eunet.ch (mail.eunet.ch [146.228.10.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07766; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:24:16 -0400 Received: from everest.esec.ch by mail.eunet.ch (8.7.5/1.34) id SAA19091; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:23:52 GMT Received: from blanc (blanc.esec.ch [194.191.94.144]) by everest.esec.ch (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA01646 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 20:17:18 +0200 Sender: carsten.seibert@esec.ch Message-Id: <326BBE7A.4FB@al.esec.ch> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 20:18:34 +0200 From: Carsten Seibert Organization: ESEC SA, Cham, Switzerland X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.01 9000/715) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Which version of MWave for NT is installed? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have NT 4.0 installed on my TP 760ED including the MWave drivers from \DRVLIB. Now I checked the IBM ftp site and found mwavent?.exe dated Sep 13. The files installed on the TP are from August. How can I find out which version of MWave is installed? Are the files on the ftp site more recent then the ones on the NT 4.0 CD? Thanks, Carsten Seibert From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 14:36:41 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA283772989; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:36:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08232; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:25:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:23:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07669; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:23:29 -0400 Received: from alder.nesc.epa.gov (alder.nesc.epa.gov [204.46.18.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07649; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:23:17 -0400 Received: from baobab.nesc.epa.gov by alder.nesc.epa.gov (5.4R3.10T/140.2) id AA19803; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:23:03 -0400 Received: by baobab.nesc.epa.gov (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA06492; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:21:47 -0400 From: "Vince Wayland" Message-Id: <9610211421.ZM6490@baobab.nesc.epa.gov> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:21:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: "Eric Trepanier" "Use of a modem on a digital (?) line..." (Oct 21, 10:12am) References: <9610211410.AA13644@dcocps.qc.bell.ca> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) To: "Eric Trepanier" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" , "MWave Mailing List" Subject: Re: Use of a modem on a digital (?) line... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu IBM was advertising a line tester in the Computer Shopper a while back. It cost US$30 and would tell you whether a line was analog or digital. Another mobile computing specialist (I forget the name) also sells the tester for the same price. Maybe someone could post specifics on the converter? Regards, Vince -- Vince Wayland Onsite at The National Environmental Supercomputer Center (517)894-7671 for Cray Research, A Silicon Graphics Corporation veg@nesc.epa.gov NESC, 135 Washington Ave., Bay City, MI 48708 wayland@cray.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 14:52:37 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA285823953; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:52:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11001; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:43:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:42:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10688; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:41:59 -0400 Received: from enteract.com (root@[206.54.252.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10662; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:41:46 -0400 Received: from able-21.d.enteract.com (able-21.d.enteract.com [206.54.253.36]) by enteract.com (8.8.2/8.7.6) with SMTP id NAA03865 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:41:10 -0500 (CDT) From: epbrown@enteract.com (epbrown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Use of a modem on a digital (?) line... Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:42:20 GMT Organization: People's Front Against World Wide Web Message-Id: <3272c255.17602833@smtp.enteract.com> References: <9610211410.AA13644@dcocps.qc.bell.ca> <9610211421.ZM6490@baobab.nesc.epa.gov> In-Reply-To: <9610211421.ZM6490@baobab.nesc.epa.gov> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:21:45 -0400, you wrote: "IBM was advertising a line tester in the Computer Shopper a while back. " It cost US$30 and would tell you whether a line was analog or digital. "Another mobile computing specialist (I forget the name) also sells the "tester for the same price. That'd be Mobile Planet (www.mplanet.com). The Line tester is basically a pen with an rj-11 jack in the tip. You insert it and get a reading of the line voltage, as PBXs are often higher than analogs. Sells for = $24.95 and popular with travelers. "Maybe someone could post specifics on the converter? Another device from the Planet is the Office Konnector from Konnexx, a small box with a jack in it; you plug the box into the line, then your modem into the box. Or get a Konnexx handset modem, like in the "old = days" which has the advantage of working on just about anything. =09 These are also available from Notebook Supply Warehouse (www.nsupply.com) All this is in the Portable computing FAQ, mentioned in my .sig below.=09 epbrown epbrown@enteract.com Laptop Central Home of the Portable Computing FAQ http://www.enteract.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 16:55:14 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA010191311; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 16:55:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29226; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 16:43:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 16:36:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27705; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 16:36:33 -0400 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27691; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 16:36:29 -0400 Received: from ibm.net (slip166-72-219-84.ny.us.ibm.net [166.72.219.84]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA14994; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 16:36:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 16:36:39 -0400 () From: Joshua Hosseinof To: Carsten Seibert Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Which version of MWave for NT is installed? In-Reply-To: <326BBE7A.4FB@al.esec.ch> Message-Id: Sender: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well if its anything like the Windows 95 and Win 3.1 installations, look for a file called mwave.ini which should have version information in it. On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, Carsten Seibert wrote: > I have NT 4.0 installed on my TP 760ED including > the MWave drivers from \DRVLIB. > > Now I checked the IBM ftp site and found mwavent?.exe > dated Sep 13. The files installed on the TP are from > August. > > How can I find out which version of MWave is installed? > Are the files on the ftp site more recent then the ones > on the NT 4.0 CD? > > Thanks, > Carsten Seibert > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 18:49:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA032898156; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:49:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15428; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:46:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:42:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15012; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:42:45 -0400 Received: from megspo1.megsinet.net (megspo.megsinet.net [206.222.62.232]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15005; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:42:43 -0400 Received: from randolph2e5-6.megsinet.net ([206.222.63.102]) by megspo1.megsinet.net (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-11704) with SMTP id AAA201 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:45:26 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19961021174003.0fa7b5ca@megspo.megsinet.net> X-Sender: chessie@megspo.megsinet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: chessie@megsinet.net (Dennis Pantazis) Subject: To EASYSERVE We Go (again) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:45:26 -0500 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi Ho, Hi Ho, ta da ta tum ta da.... This now marks the 3rd service call for my machine (701C). (1st on 9/1 for memory address errors => system board replacement, 2nd on 10/14 for power board malfuntcion=> assumed replacement, although they wouldn't say) and now for IrDa malfunction. My gut tells me the machine was wasn't put back together correctly the first time. I have no proof, but I can not beleive that IBM can make such a lemon. Or can they? Has anyone else had such bad luck? Dennis -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- chessie@megsinet.net pantazis@uiuc.edu You can still see us at http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis !!!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 18:57:26 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA033688633; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:57:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16001; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:54:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:53:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15867; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:53:38 -0400 Received: from m2.boston.juno.com (m2.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.199]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15860; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:53:33 -0400 Received: (from itsmaddog@juno.com) by m2.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id SAA23715; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:53:12 EDT To: utpjim@aol.com, honeyack@aol.com, bunnyhoper@juno.com, 73061.1106@compuserve.com, itsheidi@aol.com, blues.fish@aol.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: New Email address Message-Id: <19961021.174636.26263.1.itsmaddog@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-4 From: itsmaddog@juno.com (James E. Ackermann) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:53:12 EDT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have swithched n=my email address from itsmaddog@aol.com to itsmaddog@juno.com. Please update your records. Jim Ackermann (ttsmaddog@juno.com) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 19:04:46 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA035529083; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:04:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16965; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:03:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:01:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16760; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:01:55 -0400 Received: from m2.boston.juno.com (m2.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.199]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16749; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:01:53 -0400 Received: (from itsmaddog@juno.com) by m2.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id TAA24753; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:01:30 EDT To: honeyack@aol.com, utpjim@aol.com, bunnyhoper@juno.com, 73061.1106@compuserve.com, itsheidi@aol.com, blues.fish@aol.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Juno.com Message-Id: <19961021.175459.26263.3.itsmaddog@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-3 From: itsmaddog@juno.com (James E. Ackermann) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:01:30 EDT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I forgot to tell you the best part. Juno.com is free. If you want information on how to connect on Juno ask me. Its Maddog From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 19:08:54 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA036029333; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:08:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16928; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:02:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:01:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16717; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:01:40 -0400 Received: from m2.boston.juno.com (m2.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.199]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16711; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:01:37 -0400 Received: (from itsmaddog@juno.com) by m2.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id TAB24753; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:01:30 EDT To: utpjim@aol.com, honeyack@aol.com, 73061.1106@compuserve.com, itsheidi@aol.com, blues.fish@aol.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Juno.com Message-Id: <19961021.175459.26263.4.itsmaddog@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-4 From: itsmaddog@juno.com (James E. Ackermann) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:01:30 EDT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I forgot to tell you the best part of Juno.com is that its free. If you need info on how to sign onto Juno email me. I have the necessary software. Istmaddog. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 19:31:46 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA039620705; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:31:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19680; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:29:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:28:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19560; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:28:16 -0400 Received: from emout17.mail.aol.com (emout17.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19554; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:28:11 -0400 From: Received: by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA28509 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:27:34 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:27:34 -0400 Message-Id: <961021192732_130684810@emout17.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: tp 755cd and 4x cd rom Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anyone know if the 4x cd rom drive which ships with the 760 will work in a tp 755cd? thanks From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 21:01:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA056386091; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 21:01:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25489; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 20:58:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 20:48:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24839; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 20:48:53 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24833; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 20:48:47 -0400 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (F183-053.net.wisc.edu [144.92.183.53]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id TAA05961; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:48:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610220048.TAA05961@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:48:34 -0500 To: , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: tp 755cd and 4x cd rom Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At the Chicago Comdex I asked an IBM ThinkPad expert about this. He said that "it should work" but that it is not an IBM supported product because the 760 version sticks out about 1mm when put into the 755CD. I can't fathom why they made it a very slightly different size, but that's what they did..?? I can't guarantee that the 4X will work, but that's the word I got when I asked. If someone actually does get this to work, please post it. I might still be interested. The cost is about the same as the Panasonic (about $360), though, clearly the 760 CD is a lot more specialized. Thanks Mike Redmond ------------------- At 07:27 PM 10/21/96 -0400, Fredmmill@aol.com wrote: >Does anyone know if the 4x cd rom drive which ships with the 760 will work in >a tp 755cd? > >thanks > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 21:07:08 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA057506426; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 21:07:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25986; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 21:03:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 21:02:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25758; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 21:02:19 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25752; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 21:02:17 -0400 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (F183-053.net.wisc.edu [144.92.183.53]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id UAA06647; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 20:01:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610220101.UAA06647@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 20:01:39 -0500 To: billy@MIX.COM, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: Mwave 2.22 drivers Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu After making a BIG initial mistake, I finally got the 2.22 Mwave working on my 755CD with Win95. So far, so good. Modem works and connected at 28.8. Internal synth works, though the WAV files don't seem a lot different. I haven't tried any games. What was the mistake?? I wasn't careful on download, and got the mww222-1, 2 and 3.exe files rather than the mw95222a, b, c.exe files. The former are for Win 3.1 and the latter for Win 95. No particular error messages or information I gathered from the install screens or readme files when loading the mww versions. It just didn't load right after the install completed. After talking a while with IBM help, they finally asked what files I had...very embarrassing to say I had the wrong ones. I still can't get my external MIDI port to work, but that has been going on for months. I am hoping that a clean load of WIN 95 will fix that when I install one of the 1G Quantum disk drives (thanks to Paul Walukewicz for the low price lead). I'll let folks know how that goes for the 755CD. I will be trying the carrier from PS-Solutions. Thanks Mike Redmond ------------------------ At 01:03 AM 10/21/96 -0700, billy@MIX.COM wrote: >> I am running Win95 on my TP755cd. Thinking of installing the Mwave 2.22. >> What is are the changes from 2.0. > >It's now one combined version for both dos and windows, connectivity >with modems the violate the V.34 standard is improved, not being able >to play some .wav files when using the 28800 modem is said to be fixed, >an uninstall utility has been added, some diagnostic software is included, >a suspend problem has been fixed, etc.. > >> Additionally, I understand there are new >> midi samples. > >Correct. > >> How many disks are there and from what site may I download >> them. > >Six for the midi stuff, three for the Mwave and one doc file, >mww31222.doc. Ftp to ftp.pc.ibm.com and get /pub/pcbbs/mobiles/ >0listing.txt from which you can look up the appropriate files >for whatever operating system(s) you are using. The file names >all begin with mww... > >> Are they worth installing? > >It works fine for me. I can now connect at 28.8 through a pbx >system that never did better than 26.4 before. Not a big deal >but every little bit helps. > >Billy Y.. > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 22:06:30 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA066749989; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:06:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29788; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:03:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:00:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29547; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:00:20 -0400 Received: from psa.pencom.com (psa.pencom.com [204.217.199.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29524; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:00:14 -0400 Received: from dynamic-2.async.pyramid.com (dynamic-2.async.pyramid.com [129.214.130.12]) by psa.pencom.com (Hah!/nope) with SMTP id VAA13601 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 21:00:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: by dynamic-2.async.pyramid.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BBBF92.BBDF88E0@dynamic-2.async.pyramid.com>; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 20:59:22 -0500 Message-Id: <01BBBF92.BBDF88E0@dynamic-2.async.pyramid.com> From: Rick Tait To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Mwave on NT4.0 (again)... Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 20:58:24 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu OK. In mwaventx.doc, IBM says this... >o Before installing Mwave on your ThinkPad, make sure that the DSP is > enabled. > > - On ThinkPad 755 computers: > > 1. From the Windows NT Start menu, > choose Programs -> Thinkpad Setup -> DSP. > 2. Verify that the DSP device is enabled. If not, click the > Enable radio button. Also, make sure the Modem checkbox is > checked. > 3. Choose the Save button. > 4. Exit Windows NT and restart your computer in order for the > changes to take effect. I DO NOT have Thinkpad Setup on my machine! Where the hell do I get it = from??? Do I use the original disks I used to get my Thinkpad Features = stuff for Win95? If not, which files do I need??? HELP!!! BTW, I guess my DSP *must* be enabled, since the sound part of Mwave is = working...? .rickt From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 22:46:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA072312382; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:46:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02450; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:43:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:40:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02153; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:40:53 -0400 Received: from mtigwc01.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.129.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02145; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:40:51 -0400 Received: from LOCALNAME ([207.146.194.30]) by mtigwc01.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA21028 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:40:15 +0000 Message-Id: <326C4F7B.2B88@worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 21:37:15 -0700 From: Anita Schrodt X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Utilities upgrade question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Folks I just installed the utilities diskette upgrade, which threw a new TSR into my win.ini load line: STARTTIM.EXE. Can't find a reference to it, not sure what it is, would like to remove it, doesn't seem to hang anything up if it's not there. Anyone know what it does? (755CSE, using Windows for WorkGroups). PS - For anyone who cares, Mwave 2.22 upgrade went smoothly. Freed up a little space on the hard drive too. Thanks. Anita From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 21 22:46:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA072382401; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:46:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02457; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:43:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:41:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02273; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:41:55 -0400 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA02267; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:41:53 -0400 Received: from ibm.net (slip166-72-219-162.ny.us.ibm.net [166.72.219.162]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA14506; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:41:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:42:02 -0400 () From: Joshua Hosseinof Reply-To: Joshua Hosseinof To: Michael Redmond Cc: Fredmmill@aol.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: tp 755cd and 4x cd rom In-Reply-To: <199610220048.TAA05961@cae.wisc.edu> Message-Id: Sender: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu IBM now makes a 6X internal CDROM drive for the 760, so that one also might work in the 755cd. The hardware announcement it was mentioned in was 196188 and the part number is 85G1957. On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, Michael Redmond wrote: > At the Chicago Comdex I asked an IBM ThinkPad expert about this. He said > that "it should work" but that it is not an IBM supported product because > the 760 version sticks out about 1mm when put into the 755CD. I can't fathom > why they made it a very slightly different size, but that's what they did..?? > > I can't guarantee that the 4X will work, but that's the word I got when I > asked. If someone actually does get this to work, please post it. I might > still be interested. The cost is about the same as the Panasonic (about > $360), though, clearly the 760 CD is a lot more specialized. > > Thanks > Mike Redmond > ------------------- > At 07:27 PM 10/21/96 -0400, Fredmmill@aol.com wrote: > >Does anyone know if the 4x cd rom drive which ships with the 760 will work in > >a tp 755cd? > > > >thanks > > > > > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 00:57:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA094440240; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:57:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10579; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:50:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:47:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10233; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:47:31 -0400 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10226; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:47:29 -0400 Received: from ppp-jesse (bass-56.ppp.hooked.net [206.80.8.120]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA10539 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 21:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0b16.32.19961021214720.0071d17c@mailhost.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b16 (32) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 21:47:24 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: jesse montrose Subject: 560 discontinued? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Someone told me that today, say it ain't so! _____________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.spine.com After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 01:37:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA099382622; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:37:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13438; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:29:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:28:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13292; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:28:15 -0400 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com (emout08.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.23]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13284; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:28:13 -0400 From: Received: by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA01274 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:27:36 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:27:36 -0400 Message-Id: <961022012736_215944545@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: TP 755cd CD-ROM driver for Win 95 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am presently using the 32 bit driver which came with Win 95. Problem is taht the hot swapping is unstable. Any suggestions? Thank you From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 02:06:46 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA104324404; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:06:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15218; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:02:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:59:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14909; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:59:18 -0400 Received: from halcyon.com (mail2.halcyon.com [198.137.231.19]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14895; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:58:59 -0400 From: Received: from karensw.halcyon.com (evt-pm1-ip24.halcyon.com) by halcyon.com with SMTP id AA11661 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:57:19 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961022055959.00670ddc@halcyon.com> X-Sender: karensw@halcyon.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:59:59 -0700 To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: Use of a modem on a digital (?) line... Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 11:07 AM 10/21/96 -0400, you wrote: >You can consider yourself very lucky if your modem is still operational. >Plugging a modem into a digital outlet is a death wish for the device. > >There are converters on the market that will help you to accomplish what >you need. > >-Alan > "Digital protection", i.e. the modem doesn't function as opposed to getting fried is one of the features I looked for in a modem. I found it in Xircom. Karen From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 05:13:54 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA129595633; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 05:13:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20492; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 03:16:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 03:13:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA19989; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 03:13:44 -0400 Received: from VNET.IBM.COM (vnet.ibm.com [199.171.26.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA19982; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 03:13:41 -0400 From: Message-Id: <199610220713.DAA19982@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from BLNVM01.VNET.IBM.COM by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 7807; Tue, 22 Oct 96 03:13:13 EDT Date: Tue, 22 Oct 96 03:13:13 EDT To: SMTP2@VNET.IBM.COM, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: LINUX setup on TP755CD Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu FROM: Ulf Greifzu IBM Berlin, Germany =================== Subject: LINUX setup on TP755CD Hi folks, does anybody out there know which disk images to use (boot/root) when I want to get the interchangeable CD-ROM drive of the 755CD to work with Linux (means which ones to install ;-)? Any hints would be highly appreciated. Thanks and Regards Ulf Mit freundlichen Gr}~en / Best Regards Ulf Greifzu =============================================================== >> internet: greifzu¹vnet.ibm.com or deibmrvw¹ibmmail.com << >> VNET: BLNVM01(GREIFZU) extern: IBMMAIL(DEIBMRVW) << From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 05:23:18 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA130706198; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 05:23:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17201; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:42:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:41:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17106; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:41:13 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@news1.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17100; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:41:08 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id.rad.net.id (dyn1132a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.132]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id NAA22772; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 13:40:23 +0700 (WIB) Message-Id: <326C6C7E.6957@rad.net.id> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 13:41:02 +0700 From: Sibko X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: etrepani@qc.bell.ca Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Use of a modem on a digital (?) line ... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I think there is an IBM line tester, if indeed the line is analog/digital. I can't remember the model but if you do get it post the model number. It should not be too expensive. -- bsabini@rad.net.id From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 07:15:14 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA142562913; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:15:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA10932; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:13:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:10:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA10798; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:10:32 -0400 Received: from mail.eunet.ch (mail.eunet.ch [146.228.10.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA10768; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:10:22 -0400 Received: from everest.esec.ch by mail.eunet.ch (8.7.5/1.34) id LAA27548; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 11:09:13 GMT Received: from blanc (blanc.esec.ch [194.191.94.144]) by everest.esec.ch (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA02521; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 13:03:30 +0200 Sender: carsten.seibert@esec.ch Message-Id: <326CAA51.2EF7@al.esec.ch> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 13:04:49 +0200 From: Carsten Seibert Organization: ESEC SA, Cham, Switzerland X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.01 9000/715) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: mike_mahoney@mahoney-chevy.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Which version of MWave for NT is installed? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu mike_mahoney@mahoney-chevy.com wrote: > Michael, I am specifically looking for a change in the modem driver which raises a dialog (with the original NT 4.0 drivers) stating that sound (audio) is not possible with modem connections > 14.400 bps. Due to this limitation I'm not able to monitor the progress of a connection via the speaker for 28.000 bps. Any idea if this has changed with the drivers currently available on ftp.pc.ibm.com ? Thanks, Carsten > Carsten, > > I had the Beta Mwave installed on mine and installed the two new 9/13 > disks on mine. It went well, however I don't set up the modem. All I use > it for is the sound. I don't even install the Midi samples. > > Michael Mahoney > Indianapolis, IN > mahoneym@iquest.net > http://www.iquest.net/cars From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 07:26:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA143903581; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:26:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA11540; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:25:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:24:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA11409; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:24:11 -0400 Received: from mail.eunet.ch (mail.eunet.ch [146.228.10.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA11403; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:24:07 -0400 Received: from everest.esec.ch by mail.eunet.ch (8.7.5/1.34) id LAA28198; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 11:23:54 GMT Received: from blanc (blanc.esec.ch [194.191.94.144]) by everest.esec.ch (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA02530 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 13:13:16 +0200 Sender: carsten.seibert@esec.ch Message-Id: <326CAC9B.4152@al.esec.ch> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 13:14:35 +0200 From: Carsten Seibert Organization: ESEC SA, Cham, Switzerland X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.01 9000/715) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: MPEG support on Thinkpad and NT 4.0? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anybody heard about the upcomming MPEG support for NT on Thinkspads like features and dates? I heard that IBM is currently working on this but have no idea when it will be available. Since this would give the final touch to my system and I wouldn't need to boot Windows 95 to play a MPEG video I'm ver interested in this. Are there maybe already beta (alpha-)drivers available? I would volunteer for beta test them. Carsten From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 07:38:18 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA144454297; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:38:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12594; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:36:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:35:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12393; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:35:29 -0400 Received: from osceola.gate.net (root@osceola.gate.net [199.227.0.18]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA12378; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:35:27 -0400 Received: from gate.net.gate.net (tpafl2-31.gate.net [199.227.4.158]) by osceola.gate.net (8.7.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA35244 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:35:11 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961022113416.0071ccf0@pop.gate.net> X-Sender: gmkluft@pop.gate.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:34:16 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Gerald M. Kluft D.D.S." Subject: Reformat of a 701C Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well after a smooth transition to 95 my registry began to develop troubles and after a frustrating attempts to recover the registry unsuccessfully I striped down the drive and reloaded DOS 6.0, Win 3.0 and then again 95. No other IBM software was reinstalled. Current bios is the latest issue. The only damage that I've noted is the 16 color palate and can't get 256 restored. The monitor has a slight flicker on start up but no color degradation I'd appreciate the tactics to "fix" the display setting problem. Under system device manager it shows an "unknown monitor". Their are the choices listed of Chips & tech accelerator and Chips Super VGA and two others under properties for the monitor in the Display Properties. Will other performance issues rise up or will the system remain stable? How do I recover the monitor issue? Your suggestions are appreciated. Gerald M. Kluft D.D.S., F.I.C.D. Tampa, Fl Periodontics and Implant Dentistry e-mail : gmkluft@gate.net fax : 813 985-1524 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 08:55:07 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA152708905; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:55:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16840; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:52:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:49:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16536; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:49:12 -0400 Received: from moistmaster.arh.cdc.com (ip129179-145-190.cdc.com [129.179.145.190]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16529; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:49:03 -0400 Received: (from bobz@localhost) by moistmaster.arh.cdc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA07526; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:45:55 -0500 Message-Id: <199610221245.HAA07526@moistmaster.arh.cdc.com> Subject: Re: LINUX setup on TP755CD To: greifzu@VNET.IBM.COM Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:45:54 -0500 (CDT) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199610220713.DAA19982@CS.UTK.EDU> from "greifzu@VNET.IBM.COM" at Oct 22, 96 03:13:13 am From: Robert.Zimbinski@cdc.com Reply-To: Robert.Zimbinski@cdc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I also have a 755CD that I run Linux on. I wrestled with this problem a (very short) while before I settled on the less elegant method of copying the base and kernel Slackware disk sets to a dos partition and doing the inital install from there. After I had a minimal Linux installation going, I was able to load the rest of the system off the CD. If you want to try a full install by swapping the drives, I believe you'll need a kernel with ATAPI/IDE CD-ROM and APM support compiled in. I really don't know if such a boot image exists. Hope this helps a little. > > FROM: Ulf Greifzu > IBM Berlin, Germany > =================== > Subject: LINUX setup on TP755CD > Hi folks, > > does anybody out there know which disk images to use (boot/root) > when I want to get the interchangeable CD-ROM drive of the 755CD > to work with Linux (means which ones to install ;-)? > > Any hints would be highly appreciated. > > Thanks and Regards > > Ulf > > Mit freundlichen Gr}~en / Best Regards Ulf Greifzu > =============================================================== > >> internet: greifzu9vnet.ibm.com or deibmrvw9ibmmail.com << > >> VNET: BLNVM01(GREIFZU) extern: IBMMAIL(DEIBMRVW) << > -- Bob Zimbinski bobz@skypoint.com Robert.Zimbinski@cdc.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 09:42:53 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA162101772; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:42:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19850; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:40:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:37:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19626; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:37:51 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19620; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:37:35 -0400 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id IAA07724; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:37:07 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610221337.IAA07724@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:37:06 -0500 To: "Vince Wayland" , "Eric Trepanier" , "ThinkPad Mailing List" , "MWave Mailing List" From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: Use of a modem on a digital (?) line... Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu 1-800-Batteries (yes, that's the name of the company...I think it used to be Road Warrior International) has the line testers for $30 (item 6207). It is IBM logo'd. Thanks Mike Redmond ------------------- At 02:21 PM 10/21/96 -0400, Vince Wayland wrote: >IBM was advertising a line tester in the Computer Shopper a while back. > It cost US$30 and would tell you whether a line was analog or digital. >Another mobile computing specialist (I forget the name) also sells the >tester for the same price. > >Maybe someone could post specifics on the converter? > >Regards, > >Vince > >-- >Vince Wayland Onsite at The National Environmental Supercomputer Center >(517)894-7671 for Cray Research, A Silicon Graphics Corporation >veg@nesc.epa.gov NESC, 135 Washington Ave., Bay City, MI 48708 >wayland@cray.com > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 09:50:51 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA162752250; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:50:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20750; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:48:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:46:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20592; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:46:54 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20571; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:46:48 -0400 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id IAA08536 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:46:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610221346.IAA08536@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:46:01 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: tp 755cd and 4x cd rom Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 10:42 PM 10/21/96 -0400, Joshua Hosseinof wrote: >IBM now makes a 6X internal CDROM drive for the 760, so that one also >might work in the 755cd. The hardware announcement it was mentioned in >was 196188 and the part number is 85G1957. > >On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, Michael Redmond wrote: > If any of you 760CD folks are thinking about upgrading to the 6X CD-ROM drive, you may have a ready market for selling your old 4X drives to us poor 755CD folks (assuming they really work in the 755CDs). Keep it in mind... Thanks Mike Redmond From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 09:58:19 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA164212694; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:58:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21513; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:53:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:51:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21097; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:51:41 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21090; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:51:36 -0400 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id IAA08965; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:51:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610221351.IAA08965@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:51:14 -0500 To: Rick Tait , "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: Mwave on NT4.0 (again)... Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The ThinkPad setup stuff is part of the ThinkPad Utilities. Look for the latest version of the Utilities disk, which I think is 3.10 for the 755CD (a new version may have just been released...check on the FTP/Web site). I have been getting mixed signals about the necessity for the setup programs. It appears that at least Windows 95 may override some of the settings (or at least cause conflicts with the user settings). Win 95 also sometimes seems to override the enable/disable, but this seems to be an inconsistent action. In any case, the setup program is handy to see a graphic representation of all the Thinkpad feature settings. Thanks Mike Redmond ----------------- At 08:58 PM 10/21/96 -0500, Rick Tait wrote: >OK. In mwaventx.doc, IBM says this... > >>o Before installing Mwave on your ThinkPad, make sure that the DSP is >> enabled. >> >> - On ThinkPad 755 computers: >> >> 1. From the Windows NT Start menu, >> choose Programs -> Thinkpad Setup -> DSP. >> 2. Verify that the DSP device is enabled. If not, click the >> Enable radio button. Also, make sure the Modem checkbox is >> checked. >> 3. Choose the Save button. >> 4. Exit Windows NT and restart your computer in order for the >> changes to take effect. > >I DO NOT have Thinkpad Setup on my machine! Where the hell do I get it from??? Do I use the original disks I used to get my Thinkpad Features stuff for Win95? If not, which files do I need??? > >HELP!!! > >BTW, I guess my DSP *must* be enabled, since the sound part of Mwave is working...? > >.rickt > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 10:04:57 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA165043095; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:04:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22837; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:01:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:59:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22098; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:59:45 -0400 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22089; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:59:41 -0400 Received: from earth.execpc.com (hseaman@earth [169.207.16.1]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.7.6/8.7.5) with ESMTP id IAA19044; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:59:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (hseaman@localhost) by earth.execpc.com (8.7.6/8.7) with SMTP id IAA09122; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:59:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:59:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Harry Seaman X-Sender: hseaman@earth To: Vince Wayland Cc: Eric Trepanier , ThinkPad Mailing List , MWave Mailing List Subject: Re: Use of a modem on a digital (?) line... In-Reply-To: <9610211421.ZM6490@baobab.nesc.epa.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu There is another solution to this. I had the unfortunate experience of destroying a megahertz x-jack modem in my 750, due to using it with my company's Toshiba phone system. I found a product by TT Systems called the Modem Mate model MPA-100. This connects in the handset line, and there, the signal is the same whether or not the phone system is analog or "digital". It did take a bit of fiddling to get the levels right. best regards... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 10:10:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA166183432; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:10:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24047; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:08:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:07:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23742; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:06:53 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23693; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:06:43 -0400 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id JAA11150 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:06:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610221406.JAA11150@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:06:30 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Space savings with newer MWAVE Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu After installing MWave 2.22, I found I had about 60M more free space on my hard disk. That was a pleasant surprise. The reason is that the MWave 2.22 install specifically removes the MWD (Mwave for DOS) directory and all the stuff in it. Apparently, you could have manually done this with MWAVE 2.11, but it mustn't have specifically done it as part of the setup (I think I was told I needed to put in MWD before loading MWW 2.11 when things didn't work well in my last upgrade, but my assumption now is that the advise was incorrect). So, MWave 2.22 is definitely a space saver. Thanks Mike Redmond From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 10:25:54 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA168394349; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:25:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26260; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:20:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:17:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25438; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:17:25 -0400 Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25418; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:17:18 -0400 Received: from wrc.xerox.com ([13.0.32.53]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <15195(5)>; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:16:43 PDT Received: from sugaree.wrc.xerox.com by wrc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02655; Tue, 22 Oct 96 10:16:41 EDT Message-Id: <326CD71A.6719@wrc.xerox.com> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:15:54 PDT From: James Reno Organization: xerox X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Maintenance of List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Sorry to bother the whole list with this. What is the address for list maintenance requests? Perhaps it should be broadcast on occaision. Thanks Reno From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 10:29:27 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA168984562; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:29:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25945; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:18:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:15:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25130; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:15:18 -0400 Received: from psa.pencom.com (psa.pencom.com [204.217.199.13]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25108; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:15:12 -0400 Received: from dynamic-2.async.pyramid.com (dynamic-2.async.pyramid.com [129.214.130.12]) by psa.pencom.com (Hah!/nope) with SMTP id JAA20283 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:15:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: by dynamic-2.async.pyramid.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BBBFF9.6EF25DC0@dynamic-2.async.pyramid.com>; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:14:31 -0500 Message-Id: <01BBBFF9.6EF25DC0@dynamic-2.async.pyramid.com> From: Rick Tait To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: SUMMARY: Putting NT4.0 on a clean TP755cx Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:13:43 -0500 Encoding: 45 TEXT Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, after having successfully doing this over the weekend, I thought everyone might like a little summary, or "how-to", so here it is! My 755CX has 40MB memory, and the 515MB HD, 800x600 SVGA LCD. Ok. Windows 95 was already installed on the machine, and I'd heard horror stories about the upgrade path, so I decided in the best interests of everything, to just go ahead and format my disk. Which I did. Then I booted from my Win95 Emergency floppy and did a "SYS C:", thus transferring the system to C:\. Then I loaded my CDROM drivers (I have a HORRIBLE EXP CDS-940 - anyone else use those?), MSDCDEX etc and rebooted. Now I could see my CDROM. Because my CDROM drive is not recognised by NT, I knew I had to install from HD. So, I basically copied the entire D:\I386 directory from CD to HD. I created the boot floppies (something like winnt /ox), rebooted, using the floppies. Then it asks where the Install stuff is, and I pointed it to the above directory, and away it went. Simple huh? Yep. I then had NT on my TP! Next was setting up the Mwave. Get the following files from ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles and install them in THIS ORDER: uttpgwnt.exe mwavent1.exe mwavent2.exe And if you follow the instructions in the associated .doc files, its a piece of cake. Mwave is up and going (both sound and modem). I have yet to be able to get video going at 800x600x16-bit, but I'm kinda happy at 800x600x8-bit for now. I find the whole thing to be a LOT faster than Win95 ever was on this machine. Windows open and close dramatically faster, and I can have a whole lot more stuff running than before. Basically, I installed NT4.0 Workstation (pretty much everything - I have a lot of services going), Office 95 (works fine), and I have around 220MB left. Included in the stuff on my HD now is Netscape, Explorer 3.0, Powwow, Eudora, Zmail and about 50MB of HTML stuff. I still can't believe how much disk space I have left. Always seemed under Win95 I had less than 20MB available at all times. Anyway, thats my experience. Anyone have any questions - feel free to get in touch. .rickt From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 10:51:19 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA171795787; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:49:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00128; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:38:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:36:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29779; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:36:35 -0400 Received: from kells.vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29726; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:36:26 -0400 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com (lgate.vmedia.com [199.72.13.243]) by kells.vmedia.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id KAA21263 for <@kells.vmedia.com:tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:32:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA2698; Tue, 22 Oct 96 10:34:58 -0700 Message-Id: <9610221734.AA2698@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id 1C6C4BAB1CFE48F2852563CB004FE56C; Tue, 22 Oct 96 10:34:58 EDT To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 22 Oct 96 10:37:31 EDT Subject: Re: Space savings with newer MWAVE X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu "...After installing MWave 2.22, I found I had about 60M more free space on my hard disk. That was a pleasant surprise. The reason is that the MWave 2.22 install specifically removes the MWD (Mwave for DOS) directory and all the stuff in it. Apparently, you could have manually done this with MWAVE 2.11, but it mustn't have specifically done it as part of the setup (I think I was told I needed to put in MWD before loading MWW 2.11 when things didn't work well in my last upgrade, but my assumption now is that the advise was incorrect). ..." ~~~~~ not exactly. you *do* need to install mwd 2.x before installing mww 2.11 because the files need to be there for the mww installation, but not to actually use it. you got good advice, just incomplete advice. install mwd 2.x, then install mww 2.11, then you can deltree \mwd. it's nice to see that ibm's engineers are starting to be proactive about it, though. Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ ------------------------------- When life hands me lemons, I make lemonade. When life hands me comedy, I send email. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 12:03:14 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA185330193; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:03:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12746; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 11:54:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 11:48:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11608; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 11:48:20 -0400 Received: from zima.bbn.com (ZIMA.BBN.COM [128.89.8.110]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11600; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 11:48:08 -0400 Received: from doppleboch.bbn.com (doppleboch.bbn.com [128.89.6.100]) by zima.bbn.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02494 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 11:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from cerys@localhost) by doppleboch.bbn.com (8.7.3/8.7.3/sl1.1) id LAA27730; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 11:47:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 11:47:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199610221547.LAA27730@doppleboch.bbn.com> From: Daniel Cerys To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 760CD External Display in Win95 Comments: Hyperbole mail buttons accepted, v3.18.6. Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Before I start reinstalling things blindly, I'd ask for advice from those with more Thinkpad experience than me: 1) My external display (Sony 17sfII) is currently running at 1024x768. The problem is that, according to the monitor, the display is only running at 60Hz, resulting in some obnoxious flicker effects. I'd like to use a higher refresh rate if supported. 2) The Thinkpad Features Display panel (under the "Advanced" button) offers a number of options (resolution and refresh rates), but all of these are greyed out (inactive). Is this standard behavior? Settings: Adapter Type: "IBM ThinkPad(Cyber9320)" Monitor Type: "SONY Multiscan 17sf" 256 Color 1024 x 768 pixels Thinkpad Features: Enhanced Video: disabled CRT Selected (vs LCD+CRT). Presentation Mode: Disable Screen Expansion: Disable The "selected" resolution in the "Display Advanced Setup" is "640x480", but all of options are grayed out and I really am currently displaying 1024x768. I'm most interested in increasing the refresh rate, but I'd like to know how to activate the "Display Advanced Setup" window as well. Thanks, Dan ----------------------------------------------- Daniel Cerys Email: cerys@bbn.com BBN Work Phone: +1(617)873-4534 10 Moulton St. FAX: +1(617)873-2794 Mail Stop 6/4A Cambridge MA 02138 USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 12:32:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA190501938; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:32:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16699; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:16:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:13:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16087; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:13:54 -0400 Received: from gauss.elee.calpoly.edu (gauss.elee.calpoly.edu [129.65.26.111]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15885; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:12:42 -0400 From: Received: from [128.115.186.237] (fukatsu-mac.llnl.gov [128.115.186.237]) by gauss.elee.calpoly.edu (8.6.12/ELEE) with SMTP id JAA20904; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:11:54 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:14:59 -0800 To: Subject: Re: LINUX setup on TP755CD Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu There is a problem with having a swappable cdrom/floppy. You need to copy your disk sets (if you're using slackware) or your rpms if using redhat to a DOS partition. Then install off the DOS partition. For Slackware I did this: I copied disk sets a and d to a dos partition (I think you only need a). I made a boot disk with a kernel that has ATAPI support. I ran install and installed a and d from the DOS partion. Reboot (swap in the CDROM before reboot) run setup again and install from cd rom. (/dev/hdc) I don't think the kernel will let you hot swap the floppy and the CDROM unless the CDROM is in the bay when the kernel boots up. For RedHat: I just copied the entire distribution (almost all) to a DOS partition but I think you can get by with just the base rpm and the X rpm Note: RedHat needs to have X running for easy package installation after the fact (unless you want to run the rpm command from the command line) If you copy all the rpms to the DOS partition, you WON'T be able to copy the ones with a + sign in the name (i.e g++). I found the Redhat installation easier. Hope this helps... -Mike >FROM: Ulf Greifzu > IBM Berlin, Germany > =================== >Subject: LINUX setup on TP755CD >Hi folks, > >does anybody out there know which disk images to use (boot/root) >when I want to get the interchangeable CD-ROM drive of the 755CD >to work with Linux (means which ones to install ;-)? > >Any hints would be highly appreciated. > >Thanks and Regards > >Ulf > >Mit freundlichen Gr}~en / Best Regards Ulf Greifzu >=============================================================== >>> internet: greifzu9vnet.ibm.com or deibmrvw9ibmmail.com << >>> VNET: BLNVM01(GREIFZU) extern: IBMMAIL(DEIBMRVW) << From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 14:20:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA209058420; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:20:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28021; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:10:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:03:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27296; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:03:50 -0400 Received: from mail11.digital.com (mail11.digital.com [192.208.46.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27282; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:03:44 -0400 Received: from dasexc1.das.dec.com by mail11.digital.com (8.7.5/UNX 1.5/1.0/WV) id NAA17523; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 13:50:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dasexc1.das.dec.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.57) id <01BBC020.339D8BB0@dasexc1.das.dec.com>; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 13:52:02 -0400 Message-Id: From: Gary Henry To: "'tp750'" , "'Michael Verne/VENTANA'" Subject: RE: Space savings with newer MWAVE Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 13:51:46 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.57 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I do not think you need the MWD stuff..... Last weekend I re-installed my TP 760ED after formatting the hard drive and I installed MWW 2.21 and then just installed 2.22 today with no reported problems. The modem works the sound works and though I have not played any games it passes all of the diagnostics in the new test program. I know that with ver 2.0 and 2.1x you needed the DOS stuff but when they came out with a Win95 version I think that requirement was lifted?? Gary ---------- From: Michael Verne/VENTANA[SMTP:Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 1996 10:37 AM To: tp750 Subject: Re: Space savings with newer MWAVE "...After installing MWave 2.22, I found I had about 60M more free space on my hard disk. That was a pleasant surprise. The reason is that the MWave 2.22 install specifically removes the MWD (Mwave for DOS) directory and all the stuff in it. Apparently, you could have manually done this with MWAVE 2.11, but it mustn't have specifically done it as part of the setup (I think I was told I needed to put in MWD before loading MWW 2.11 when things didn't work well in my last upgrade, but my assumption now is that the advise was incorrect). ..." ~~~~~ not exactly. you *do* need to install mwd 2.x before installing mww 2.11 because the files need to be there for the mww installation, but not to actually use it. you got good advice, just incomplete advice. install mwd 2.x, then install mww 2.11, then you can deltree \mwd. it's nice to see that ibm's engineers are starting to be proactive about it, though. Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ ------------------------------- When life hands me lemons, I make lemonade. When life hands me comedy, I send email. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 15:27:23 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA221772442; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:27:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03835; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:17:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:13:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03446; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:13:25 -0400 Received: from doblegate.doble.com (doblegate.doble.com [204.215.186.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03428; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:13:16 -0400 From: Received: from ccMail by doblegate.doble.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 26d1c9a0; Tue, 22 Oct 96 15:12:26 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:08:33 -0400 Message-Id: <26d1c9a0@doblegate.doble.com> Subject: Re[2]: backup Iomega vs. ? To: "'mrcwdnbm@calweb.com'" , Andrew Richards Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, In general the 2000 series drive capacities are based on using maximum compression. They use 2:1 which is not valid for most data (1.5:1 is more real). So a 250 Meg drive is really a 120 and a 800 meg drive is really a 400. As I mentioned before I tried these 2000 series drives at work and decided not to use them on my home systems. The 2.3 Gigs capacity of my basic 8mm drive is without compression and no formatting needed! Even with my 6525 (525 meg large cartridge) drive it would format in 10 minutes. It went to the end of the tape and came back. The 2000 series had to go over every track (there are like 14 or more of them). 73 Eric ecottrell@doble.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 16:31:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA237106258; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 16:30:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08900; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 16:20:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 16:15:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08500; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 16:15:20 -0400 Received: from bnr.ca (x400gate.nortel.ca [192.58.194.73]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08404; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 16:14:57 -0400 X400-Received: by mta bnr.ca in /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:01:25 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:59:14 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:57:00 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:57:00 -0400 X400-Originator: /dd.id=1688786/g=rob/i=wrl/s=dickson/@bnr.ca X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/;bcars520.b.117:22.09.96.14.59.14] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Re: Use of a ... From: "rob (w.r.l.) dickson" Sender: "rob (w.r.l.) dickson" Message-Id: <"7890 Tue Oct 22 10:59:38 1996"@bnr.ca> To: bsabini@rad.net.id Cc: etrepani@qc.bell.ca, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Use of a modem on a digital (?) line ... Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Howdy: The IBM line tester is called the "IBM modem saver". The product number is 73G5395. The unit has 3 LEDs, labeled as follows: [Green] "Normal" [Yellow] "Polarity Reversed" [Red] "Over Current" It is packaged in a pen-like format, with an RJ11 plug at one end mounted on a flexible rubber mounting, which allows you to bend the unit to get a good look at the LEDs when you are testing. It also has a clip on the back, so you can clip it to your shirt pocket (very stylish!). According to the label on the back, you interpret the readout as follows: "Normal: OK to connect modem Reversed Polarity: modem operation may be impaired Over Current: modem damage likely" The unit set me back about $50 CDN, and I picked it up at the IBM Outlet store here in Ottawa last year. Hard to say whether it is worth the money. I have used it a few times (hotels, etc.), but I now have a Megahertz XJ2288 modem, which supposedly has protection against digital line damage anyways. Let me know if you have any questions. Cheers, Rob Dickson dickson@nortel.ca In message "Re: Use of a modem on a digital (?) line ...", 'bsabini@rad.net.id' writes: >I think there is an IBM line tester, if indeed the line >is analog/digital. I can't remember the model but if you do get it >post the model number. It should not be too expensive. > >-- >bsabini@rad.net.id From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 18:30:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA261963442; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:30:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19062; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:27:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:22:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18680; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:22:35 -0400 Received: from mail.pop-frankfurt.com (mail.ipf.de [194.152.32.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18661; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:22:29 -0400 Received: from ip212.pop-frankfurt.com (ip212.pop-frankfurt.com [194.152.33.212]) by mail.pop-frankfurt.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA01613 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 23:21:46 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199610222221.XAA01613@mail.pop-frankfurt.com> From: "Joerg Klemenz" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Date: Wed, 23 Oct 96 00:22:19 -0100 Reply-To: "Joerg Klemenz" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Joerg Klemenz's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Who is using SMC EtherEZ (8020) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu SMC ( http://www.smc.com ) says that it uses less energy than other cards. Can you confirm that? How about the OS/2 drivers? SMC vs. 3Com? Comments? TIA, joerg klemenz (joergk@ipf.de) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 18:39:07 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA263303945; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:39:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19756; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:32:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:30:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19549; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:30:50 -0400 Received: from tower.itis.com (tower.itis.com [205.243.195.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19533; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:30:46 -0400 Received: from rkarp (j5.itis.com [207.67.67.5]) by tower.itis.com (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id RAA16634 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 17:30:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610222230.RAA16634@tower.itis.com> From: "Robert J. Karp" To: "ThinkPad Users Group" Subject: ThinkPad 760E/ED/EL/ELD Owners -- DIMM Adapter Problem Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 17:29:43 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu If you have a ThinkPad 760 series machine (machine type 9546 or 9547), AND you have used BOTH of the sockets of the DIMM Adapter (i.e., 48Mb or 80Mb installed RAM), AND you have observed problems with your machine locking up for no apparent reason, BE ADVISED: IBM has discovered a problem with the DIMM Adapter used in machine types 9546 (TP 760E/ED) and 9547 (TP 760EL/ELD). I spoke with IBM Technical Support and then their Engineering department. IBM is working on modifications to the DIMM adapter that will solve the problem. NOTE: this is NOT a BIOS problem that can be corrected via a flash update. As of this morning, IBM anticipated the replacement DIMM adapter could be available by "early November". I encourage you to contact Technical Support at 1-800-772-2227 to determine if indeed the DIMM adapter problem is what is causing your lock-up troubles. If so, IBM will assign you a case number so that you can get into the que for the new adapters when they become available. The only work-around for the problem in the interim is: a) Remove one DIMM module so that only one of the two slots is used (this is the approach recommended by IBM), or, b) Boot up to Windows 95 (I cannot comment on any other OS) and then restart the computer (don't cheat on this one with the shift key ... that won't work ... choose restart and let the machine go through POST again). I cannot assure you this will work or explain why, I am only saying it works reliably for me. Robert J. Karp rkarp@itis.com -or- rkarp@mailbag.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 20:14:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA279279674; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 20:14:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25849; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 20:12:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 20:08:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25475; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 20:08:43 -0400 Received: from gauss.elee.calpoly.edu (root@gauss.elee.calpoly.edu [129.65.26.111]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25468; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 20:08:37 -0400 From: Received: from [128.115.186.237] (fukatsu-mac.llnl.gov [128.115.186.237]) by gauss.elee.calpoly.edu (8.6.12/ELEE) with SMTP id RAA13416 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 17:08:12 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 17:11:22 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Anyone have success with Mconv2 in Linux? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have a TP755CD running RedHat 3.0.3 Linux. There are a lot of programs not compatible with a PS2 mouse, so I was delighted to read about Mconv2 in the most recent issue of the Linux Gazette. However, after installing it, my mouse acts sporadic and I have to kill the process. Anyone have any luck with this program on the Thinkpads? -Mike From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 22 21:41:09 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA295014868; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 21:41:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01172; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 21:38:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 22 Oct 1996 21:30:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00548; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 21:30:21 -0400 Received: from grizzly.ucla.edu (grizzly.ucla.edu [164.67.128.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00535; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 21:30:16 -0400 Received: from UNEX.UCLA.EDU (www.unex.ucla.edu [128.97.218.2]) by grizzly.ucla.edu (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA35637 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:29:42 -0700 Received: from Microsoft Mail (PU Serial #1550) by UNEX.UCLA.EDU (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.8d for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1996Oct22.181546.1550.68245; Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:17:46 -0700 From: CSwartz@UNEX.UCLA.EDU (Swartz, Charles) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu (ThinkPad Newsgroup) Message-Id: <1996Oct22.181546.1550.68245@UNEX.UCLA.EDU> X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail via PostalUnion/SMTP for Windows NT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Organization: UCLA Extension - contact Postmaster@unex.ucla.edu for problems Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:17:46 -0700 Subject: 560 Problems? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've been following this group for some time and find it very helpful. I've decided on a 560 133MHZ ThinkPad, but I have a question: What is the reason for the big hiatus in production of the 560 133 MHZ model? A few came out in August, then when I tried to get one, none of the vendors had them. I see them advertised now, but not yet in stock. I've been waiting for the corporate dept. of CompUSA to respond. Is there any problem with any system components? I really want this unit instead of the 120, and I'm willing to wait if it's likely to be available soon. Many thanks in advance, Charles S. Swartz Program Manager Department of Entertainment Studies and Performing Arts UCLA Extension 310-825-9634 Phone 310-206-7435 Fax cswartz@unex.ucla.edu 10995 Le Conte Ave., Room 437 Los Angeles, CA 90024 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 23 12:05:23 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA137656703; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:05:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16644; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:42:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:34:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15214; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:34:13 -0400 Received: from chava.netmedia.net.il (chava.netmedia.net.il [192.115.153.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15202; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:34:07 -0400 Received: from wine (cs41a3.netmedia.net.il [192.115.200.67]) by chava.netmedia.net.il (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA29363 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:35:24 +0200 (IST) Message-Id: <3.0b16.32.19961023173128.0079d100@mail.netmedia.net.il> X-Sender: wine@mail.netmedia.net.il (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b16 (32) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:31:36 +0200 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Wine Subject: modem lost after suspend (Win95, TP760CD) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Windows 95, TP 760CD with mwave modem. After I suspend, the mwave modem doesn't respond. Windows 95 dialup says that the port is in use by another application. Once upon a time I didn't have this problem. I don't know if it's related, but even though I check "start hidden" in the settings for the mwave modem application, it starts maximized. I've just replaced all the drivers with the latest from IBM. No help. What could be the problem? --David From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 23 12:47:27 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA145399246; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:47:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25517; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:43:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:39:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25050; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:39:20 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25040; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:39:15 -0400 Received: from lee.market1.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #10) id m0vG6KZ-001ChtC; Wed, 23 Oct 96 10:38 MDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 23 Oct 96 10:38 MDT X-Sender: lee@rmii.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: David Wine , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: lee@rmii.com (Lee Stewart) Subject: Re: modem lost after suspend (Win95, TP760CD) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >Windows 95, TP 760CD with mwave modem. > >After I suspend, the mwave modem doesn't respond. Windows 95 dialup says >that the port is in use by another application. Once upon a time I didn't >have this problem. I have a 755C with a PCMCIA modem and have the same thing. I've resorted to hot plugging the PCMCIA card to get W'95 to notice it's there.. Lee Stewart From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 23 13:19:17 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA150141154; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:19:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26923; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:58:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:56:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26750; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:56:48 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26738; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:56:28 -0400 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id LAA16186; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:56:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610231656.LAA16186@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:55:56 -0500 To: , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: TP760CD, Quantum Europa 1080 - it works! (now a 755CD) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 01:34 PM 10/16/96 +0000, paulwal@colum.mindspring.com wrote: >Well, I promised to report on my project to use a Quantum >disk drive in my 760CD.... > >Executive Summary: It works! > I checked with GDS based on your message, and we picked up 3 of the 1G Quantum Europas for our various ThinkPad 75X's (a 755CD, 755Ce and an older 750). I bought some disk carriers from PS-Solutions. They seem nice. They have both a top and bottom to fully enclose the drive, they have a plastic sheet on the side facing the circuit card, and they also have the locking mechanism. They seem to fit very well at least in the 755CD. Some minor problems...the end of the ribbon cable had to be trimmed to allow the drive to lay flat to the case, the wire handle had to be moved around a bit while inserting the drive, and the case is a little heavy (3 oz more than the IBM drive and case). You can reduce the case weight by 2 oz by removing the bottom, but then you lose the locking mechanism. Installed the drive then Fdisk'd with 2 partitions, 511M on the primary and 524M (or there abouts) on the extended. Formatted (from Windows startup disk) and, as hoped, the 511M partition kept the 8k sized allocation units. The 524M partition formated to 16K sized allocation units. Did scandisk...all OK. Set up the CD-ROM with the most basic IBM drivers (ibmtpcd.sys device in Config.sys and mscdex.exe in Autoexec.bat, per CD-ROM DOS installation procedures). Installed Win95 from CD-ROM. All was uneventful. Used Drvspace to compress the D: disk to get more space and minimize the effect of bigger allocation units. Installed MWave 2.22. This basically worked, though I STILL cannot make an external Midi device function from MidiPort. I also still need to check modem operation fully. The drive install seems fine to this point. However, I can't get my Enhance video system recognized by Win95. It comes up with a failure to load the device driver. Even with it "not loaded" I can get NTSC video out, so something is basically working. More on this later (I will be looking for advice on this). Late executive summary...the Europas in the PS Solutions carrier seem to work on the 755CD...and it was a pretty good deal. About $250 for 1G drive. I don't know if GDS has more of the drives. Using that drive and one of the Road Warrior style external cases could make a pretty decent mirror backup system for about $320 (though it would be connecting through the parallel port, thus limiting speed). Thanks Mike Redmond From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 23 14:32:23 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA161055539; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:32:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07537; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:24:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:21:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06779; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:21:29 -0400 Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06772; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:21:25 -0400 Received: from sudial0216-090.syr.edu by syr.edu (8.7.5/CNS) id OAA14389; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:22:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199610231822.OAA14389@syr.edu> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Harry" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:22:05 +4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: List maintainer? Problem with -REQUEST? Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi Friends Sorry to soak up bandwidth with this but I've tried the usual route.... I need to unsub from the list. I have sent numerous requests to the server (thinkpad-request@...) to unsubscribe over the past few weeks and no luck. Any help appreciated..... I've been missing student email in my mailbox due to list traffic so I am unsubbing from lists until the semester is over (thus, nothing against the list!) Best regards... Harry From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 23 14:57:59 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA165657076; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:57:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12248; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:52:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:50:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11398; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:50:03 -0400 Received: from m1.sprynet.com (m1.sprynet.com [165.121.1.97]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11383; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:49:54 -0400 Received: from [199.174.200.180] (ad73-180.compuserve.com [199.174.200.180]) by m1.sprynet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA12060 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:49:31 -0700 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:49:31 -0700 Message-Id: <199610231849.LAA12060@m1.sprynet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "P.van Schijndel" Subject: ThinkPad Battery Question To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.10.06.22 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have an IBM 360CSE for about a year and a half. The battery life has gradually declined to the point that after only 70 seconds without any disk access (just typing this message, in fact, pulling the plug, and waiting) the ThinkPad beeps to signal low battery power, and 60 seconds after that, the ThinkPad beeps its final warning. What's wrong? Is my battery toast? Is there anything I can do to save it? Phil From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 23 16:45:11 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA184633509; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:45:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00134; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:39:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:34:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29109; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:34:39 -0400 Received: from ucs.orst.edu (UCS.ORST.EDU [128.193.4.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29086; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:34:34 -0400 Received: by ucs.orst.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/13Sep96-1023AM) id AA17625; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:34:02 -0700 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:34:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Mosley To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Problem with direct cable connection Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am trying to connect a TP701C to a desktop PC using the Direct Cable connection feature in Windows 95. Has anyone ever gotten this to work? I would like to know. The configuration I am trying is parallel port to parallel port via a standard laplink paralell cable. I can't seem to get it to work after all the permutations and reconfigurations I could try, I think the problem is that the TP port replicator uses LPT2 but the printer port on the desktop is LPT1, but when I try to use the floppy drive port on the TP (with the parallel port converter attached) this doesn't work either. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 23 16:58:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA186664319; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:58:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02004; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:50:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:48:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01558; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:48:05 -0400 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01546; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:48:01 -0400 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA04593; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johnp (tesu-pc2.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA09254 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:47:50 -0700 From: "John Pham" Message-Id: <961023135727.ZM15326@johnp> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:57:25 -0700 In-Reply-To: lee@rmii.com (Lee Stewart) "Re: modem lost after suspend (Win95, TP760CD)" (Oct 23, 10:38am) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0.1 (4.0.1 Sep 19 1996) To: lee@rmii.com (Lee Stewart), David Wine , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: modem lost after suspend (Win95, TP760CD) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Oct 23, 10:38am, Lee Stewart wrote: > Subject: Re: modem lost after suspend (Win95, TP760CD) > >Windows 95, TP 760CD with mwave modem. > > > >After I suspend, the mwave modem doesn't respond. Windows 95 dialup says > >that the port is in use by another application. Once upon a time I didn't > >have this problem. > > I have a 755C with a PCMCIA modem and have the same thing. I've resorted > to hot plugging the PCMCIA card to get W'95 to notice it's there.. > > Lee Stewart > >-- End of excerpt from Lee Stewart I've have a 760ELD which has the same behaviour once in awhile and by plugging the cards back in sometimes help. Othertimes I'll have to cold boot the machine. John Pham From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 23 17:50:09 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA193677408; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:50:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10495; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:43:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:39:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09599; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:39:27 -0400 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09593; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:39:24 -0400 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA07875; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johnp (tesu-pc2.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA14728 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:39:03 -0700 From: "John Pham" Message-Id: <961023144840.ZM15326@johnp> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:48:37 -0700 In-Reply-To: chessie@megsinet.net (Dennis Pantazis) "To EASYSERVE We Go (again)" (Oct 21, 5:45pm) References: <1.5.4.16.19961021174003.0fa7b5ca@megspo.megsinet.net> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0.1 (4.0.1 Sep 19 1996) To: chessie@megsinet.net (Dennis Pantazis), THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: To EASYSERVE We Go (again) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Oct 21, 5:45pm, Dennis Pantazis wrote: > Subject: To EASYSERVE We Go (again) > Hi Ho, Hi Ho, ta da ta tum ta da.... > > This now marks the 3rd service call for my machine (701C). > > (1st on 9/1 for memory address errors => system board replacement, 2nd on > 10/14 for power board malfuntcion=> assumed replacement, although they > wouldn't say) and now for IrDa malfunction. > > My gut tells me the machine was wasn't put back together correctly the first > time. I have no proof, but I can not beleive that IBM can make such a > lemon. Or can they? > > Has anyone else had such bad luck? > > Dennis > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- > chessie@megsinet.net > pantazis@uiuc.edu > > You can still see us at http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis !!!!! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- > >-- End of excerpt from Dennis Pantazis I have similar experience with a 5 months old 760ELD and YES, IBM does make lemons. I spoke with the IBM's rep. at Atlanta N+I '96 and she admitted that it does sounded like a lemon. It's like paying good money for a car that always in the shop. Where do you think IBM get the machines that they sell as re-furbished units? John Pham From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 23 17:58:31 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA195547903; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:58:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11635; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:50:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:48:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11379; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:48:43 -0400 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11334; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:48:36 -0400 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA08445; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johnp (tesu-pc2.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA15951 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:48:04 -0700 From: "John Pham" Message-Id: <961023145740.ZM15326@johnp> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:57:38 -0700 In-Reply-To: "Robert J. Karp" "ThinkPad 760E/ED/EL/ELD Owners -- DIMM Adapter Problem" (Oct 22, 5:29pm) References: <199610222230.RAA16634@tower.itis.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0.1 (4.0.1 Sep 19 1996) To: "Robert J. Karp" , "ThinkPad Users Group" Subject: Re: ThinkPad 760E/ED/EL/ELD Owners -- DIMM Adapter Problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Oct 22, 5:29pm, Robert J. Karp wrote: > Subject: ThinkPad 760E/ED/EL/ELD Owners -- DIMM Adapter Problem > If you have a ThinkPad 760 series machine (machine type 9546 or 9547), > > AND > > you have used BOTH of the sockets of the DIMM Adapter (i.e., 48Mb or 80Mb > installed RAM), > > AND > > you have observed problems with your machine locking up for no apparent > reason, > > BE ADVISED: > > IBM has discovered a problem with the DIMM Adapter used in machine types > 9546 (TP 760E/ED) and 9547 (TP 760EL/ELD). I spoke with IBM Technical > Support and then their Engineering department. IBM is working on > modifications to the DIMM adapter that will solve the problem. NOTE: this > is NOT a BIOS problem that can be corrected via a flash update. > > As of this morning, IBM anticipated the replacement DIMM adapter could be > available by "early November". I encourage you to contact Technical > Support at 1-800-772-2227 to determine if indeed the DIMM adapter problem > is what is causing your lock-up troubles. If so, IBM will assign you a > case number so that you can get into the que for the new adapters when they > become available. > > The only work-around for the problem in the interim is: > > a) Remove one DIMM module so that only one of the two slots is used (this > is the approach recommended by IBM), or, > > b) Boot up to Windows 95 (I cannot comment on any other OS) and then > restart the computer (don't cheat on this one with the shift key ... that > won't work ... choose restart and let the machine go through POST again). > I cannot assure you this will work or explain why, I am only saying it > works reliably for me. > > Robert J. Karp > rkarp@itis.com > -or- > rkarp@mailbag.com > >-- End of excerpt from Robert J. Karp I've a 760ELD which only has one 8MB DIMM module on the memory card but the machine stills lock up. I even removed the memory card from the machine as one of the troubleshooting steps but that had no effect on the lock up problem. John Pham From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 23 19:30:11 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA212053409; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 19:30:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21687; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 19:27:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 23 Oct 1996 19:22:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21293; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 19:22:39 -0400 Received: from scf-fs.usc.edu (scf-fs.usc.edu [128.125.253.183]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA21286; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 19:22:17 -0400 Received: from ppp.usc.edu (comserv-d-59.usc.edu [128.125.222.131]) by scf-fs.usc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id QAA00231; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961023222201.0103106c@scf.usc.edu> X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:22:01 -0700 To: "P.van Schijndel" From: Randy Whittle Subject: Re: ThinkPad Battery Question Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 11:49 AM 10/23/96 -0700, P.van Schijndel wrote: >I have an IBM 360CSE for about a year and a half. The battery life has >gradually declined to the point that after only 70 seconds without any disk >access (just typing this message, in fact, pulling the plug, and waiting) the >ThinkPad beeps to signal low battery power, and 60 seconds after that, the >ThinkPad beeps its final warning. > >What's wrong? Is my battery toast? Is there anything I can do to save it? Sounds like it to me. I'm surprised its toast after only a year and a half though. Usually you can expect 2+ years before it gets anything like that--even with fairly heavy use. Did you leave it plugged in a lot and did it "cycle" (discharge to about 90% and then re-charge--constantly)? My 750 did that--it was a *very* bad idea to leave it plugged in with the battery inside. All that constant cycling got the battery into an early grave. ------- Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 24 03:12:55 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA271981174; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 03:12:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA15111; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 03:11:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 03:01:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA13470; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 03:01:15 -0400 Received: from sisyphus.cs.kun.nl (sisyphus.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA13461; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 03:01:03 -0400 Received: from atlas by sisyphus.cs.kun.nl via atlas.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.42] with SMTP id JAA01145 (8.7.6/3.2); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:00:43 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: mauricek@cs.kun.nl Message-Id: <326F141A.41C67EA6@cs.kun.nl> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:00:42 +0200 From: Maurice klein Gebbinck Organization: University of Nijmegen, Computing Science Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3_U1 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: Stephen Mosley Subject: Re: Problem with direct cable connection References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Stephen Mosley wrote: > > I am trying to connect a TP701C to a desktop PC using the Direct Cable > connection feature in Windows 95. Has anyone ever gotten this to work? I > would like to know. You are in luck: I have experimented with the DCC last week and succeeded in establishing a connection. The problem is that there is an IRQ-conflict between the Audio System and the parallel port. A solution is to change the IRQ of the Audio System, see ftp://204.146.167.81/pub/pccbbs/corrective_service/wn95701.txt For me this did the trick. As someone on this list suggested, I tried setting the IRQ of the floppy/parallel port (stand-alone) to #5. If I hold down f8 while booting Win95 to go to DOS, the BIOS-configuration utility (?) shows the port to have IRQ 5 (and EPP/378), just as selected. If I boot Win95 all the way, the BIOS-configuration utility says the current port setting is IRQ7/ECP/378, although there is no |> sign (indicating that the setting was changed) in front of the IRQ5/EPP/378 setting in the menu where you can alter it. I am wondering whether this is a display error of the BIOS-configuration utility, or that by some magic trick the setting of the port has changed. How is this possible? Does anyone else have this as well? > The configuration I am trying is parallel port to parallel port via a > standard laplink paralell cable. Done it. I can't seem to get it to work after all > the permutations and reconfigurations I could try, I think the problem is > that the TP port replicator uses LPT2 but the printer port on the desktop > is LPT1, According to the standard settings on my computer the floppy/parallel port has address 378 in stand-alone mode, and 278 in multiport mode. The parallel port (multiport) has address 378. In Win95 LPT1 is set at address 378, and LPT2 at 278. Conclusion: when the multiport is attached, its parallel port is LPT1, and the floppy/parallel port is LPT2. but when I try to use the floppy drive port on the TP (with the > parallel port converter attached) this doesn't work either. In theorie, with the multiport attached you should be able to use the floppy/parallel port for a connection on LPT2 without changing the IRQ-settings. Have not tried it yet. Hope this will help, Maurice -- Maurice klein Gebbinck University of Nijmegen, Computing Science Institute Toernooiveld 1, 6525 ED Nijmegen, The Netherlands Phone +31 24 3652710, Fax +31 24 3553450 http://www.cs.kun.nl/~mauricek From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 24 08:58:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA012501921; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 08:58:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28745; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 08:57:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 08:52:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27938; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 08:52:13 -0400 Received: from vtaix.cc.vt.edu (adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu [198.82.161.244]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27920; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 08:52:09 -0400 Received: (from adamf@localhost) by vtaix.cc.vt.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA18134 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 08:51:56 -0400 From: Adam Finkelstein Message-Id: <199610241251.IAA18134@vtaix.cc.vt.edu> Subject: 810 meg IBM drive geometry To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 08:51:56 +22324924 (EDT) Reply-To: adamf@vt.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello. What is the geometry for an 810 m IBM drive #9545-7BE, the 810 hard drive that can be OEM for 755 machines? I need the cylinders, heads, and sectors--or a pointer to the information. thanks, (this drive is now in a 755CSE) Adam -- _________________ Adam Finkelstein adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu http://sunsite.unc.edu/bees/adamf/home.html From owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Oct 24 10:38:15 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA027627886; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 10:38:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00647; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:07:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:04:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29765; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:04:46 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29743; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:04:41 -0400 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id IAA13347 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 08:04:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610241304.IAA13347@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 08:04:21 -0500 To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU From: Michael Redmond Subject: Clean Win95 install on TP 755CD--Enhanced Video Saga Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I completed a clean install of Win95 on my TP755CD but there are anomalies with the Enhanced Video. The problem is that, in the Win95 device manager, there is a "?" where the Enhanced Video device should be, and there is an error message that says the device is not installed. But, interestingly enough, I was able to get it to work for both output and capture. (I found the stand-alone vidcap.exe file by using a search with HOTBOT for vidcap.exe. Someplace out there had it for download, though I didn't save the site location. If anyone is interested, I will find it again). I did comment out the device=IBMTPURA.VXD and added in device=c:\v7320\v7320.386 in the 386enh section of system.ini. Since things work, I am tempted to just leave it. But that doesn't seem quite the right thing to do. Are there additional steps anyone out there would recommend or has experience with to make it look like the Enhanced Video is a real device for Win95? I have done the V7320 install from the TP755CD V1.20 disks. And it looked like it was a real device in my old Win95 over original TP Win3.1 upgrade. I remember putting in some patches to make Win95 recognize names of Mwave devices a long time ago, but I assume that has been built into the new drivers (maybe I'm wrong there). Thanks Mike Redmond From owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Oct 24 10:56:51 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA030249005; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 10:56:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00645; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:07:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:04:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29751; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:04:44 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29742; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:04:40 -0400 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id IAA13345 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 08:04:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610241304.IAA13345@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 08:04:20 -0500 To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU From: Michael Redmond Subject: External drive carriers on Thinkpads Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I bought a Road Warrior Bullet external 2.5" drive carrier for the 540M Thinkpad drive that I am replacing with the 1G Quantum. The carrier is nice and compact, connects to the printer port (so likely slow), and is supposed to be powered by the mouse/keyboard port power. It seems perfect for rebuilding a clean disk and for portable future use. Only problem(s)... 1) I can't seem to get it to be recognized through the TP parallel port. 2) The power from the ThinkPad mouse/key port is not enough to run it. I am driving the power from another nearby machine's mouse port (I don't have an external power supply). So that may be OK (still can't tell if it's enough power, though now at least the drive spins up). It looks like the printer port is set right, though in the 755CD, you don't have the option in ThinkPad utilities to set it for EPP (this would be faster). And the Win95 generic driver is for ECP, which the Road Warrior folks weren't very comfortable with (they wanted standard or bi-di parallel port). So far, nothing has worked. I have used the parallel port in the past for Direct Connect to another computer. Questions: --Has anyone else gotten one of these carriers and made it work? (these are available under different names though they look identical..about 3" wide and 5" long) --Has anyone gotten enough power out of a TP mouse/key port to run one? --Is there an EPP option for setting up the parallel port on the 755CD in case I ever do get it working? --Are there any ThinkPad specific Win95 parallel port drivers? As I say, if this thing works, it seems ideal for doing reinstalls of Win95. By the way, the "empty" version costs $119, though it looks like I will need to buy a 5V power supply for additional $$. Thanks Mike Redmond From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 24 12:14:53 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA044873691; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 12:14:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27191; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 12:06:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 12:02:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26645; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 12:02:30 -0400 Received: from albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu [128.52.46.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26629; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 12:02:24 -0400 Received: from klaatu by albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12GNU) with ESMTP id MAA28761 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 12:02:15 -0400 Message-Id: <199610241602.MAA28761@albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu> From: "Rick Tait" To: Subject: 755cx & NT 4.0 & 800x600 @ 65536 colours? Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 11:04:58 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Has anyone done this? IBM says to use the Trident drivers on the CDROM, but that doesn't work for me. It gives me 800x600 @ 16 colours, which sucks... Using the regular VGA drivers, I can get 800x600x256, which is *OK*, but I want 800x600x65536. I used to have Win95 at 65536 colours, so I know its not a machine hardware limitation... HELP! .rickt -- Rick Tait From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 24 12:46:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA050545569; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 12:46:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02191; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 12:39:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 12:37:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02007; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 12:37:14 -0400 Received: from chava.netmedia.net.il (chava.netmedia.net.il [192.115.153.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02001; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 12:37:00 -0400 Received: from wine (cs41a2.netmedia.net.il [192.115.200.66]) by chava.netmedia.net.il (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA04045 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 18:37:46 +0200 (IST) Message-Id: <3.0b16.32.19961024172405.007a9c40@mail.netmedia.net.il> X-Sender: wine@mail.netmedia.net.il X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b16 (32) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 18:33:56 +0200 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: David Wine Subject: Re: modem lost after suspend (Win95, TP760CD) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The problem is solved. I enabled advanced power management under the control panel. At 05:31 PM 10/23/96 +0200, David Wine wrote: >Windows 95, TP 760CD with mwave modem. > >After I suspend, the mwave modem doesn't respond. Windows 95 dialup says >that the port is in use by another application. Once upon a time I didn't >have this problem. > >I don't know if it's related, but even though I check "start hidden" in the >settings for the mwave modem application, it starts maximized. > >I've just replaced all the drivers with the latest from IBM. No help. > >What could be the problem? > >--David > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 24 13:21:31 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA058017688; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:21:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05195; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:15:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:11:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04713; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:11:07 -0400 Received: from i-2000.com (root@i-2000.com [204.97.92.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04695; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:10:58 -0400 Received: from wtbrown (dyn8.access1.stamford.i-2000.net [207.97.137.73]) by i-2000.com (8.7.6/8.7) with SMTP id NAA11693 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:10:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19961024171027.00671dbc@i-2000.com> X-Sender: wtbrown@i-2000.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:10:27 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "w.t.brown" Subject: Need help in changing from digest format Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have sent several messages asking to change from the digest format to the normal, regular format for the thinkpad mail group. However, I continue to get the digest format. Can you help? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 24 13:31:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA060078283; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:31:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06090; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:26:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:24:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05817; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:24:04 -0400 Received: from london.uk.pi.net (london.uk.pi.net [194.73.192.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05796; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:23:41 -0400 Received: from pi-user.uk.pi.net (d1b09.uk.pi.net [194.73.76.37]) by london.uk.pi.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA05834 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 18:03:37 +0100 Message-Id: <326FA4C5.4C93@uk.pi.net> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 18:17:57 +0100 From: Alexander Man X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: No 'Suspend' option on the 'Start' menu on my 750Cs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi everyone, Thanks for your help about 'batteries' information a few weeks ago. Using the quoted times from users than from IBM has given a better idea what to expect from my trusty ThinkPad. I'm a new subscriber... so here's my blurb about my ThinkPad! It's a 12Mb 750Cs with ancient IBM Data/Fax Modem and Xircom Ethernet Adapter. And, runs Windows 95 quite comfortably! I use mainly during teaching in the primary school classroom... so, it gets knocked about a bit! In fact, brought a new battery for 120 UK Sterling the other week. Cor, it has improved my life with the 750Cs (it doesn't drain so fast now!). But IBM's quote for 190 UK Sterling at some places I've enquired is absolutely absurd! Anyway, can anyone tell me why I don't get the 'Suspend' function in the 'Start' menu in Windows 95? I know I can suspend quite easily using 'fn and 4', but why doesn't it appear in the menu thingy! Is anything to do with the weird APM in the 750 series? Oh yes... my swap battery option doesn't work (fn and 11). Any ideas? Many thanks... Alexander Man (BEd Honours IV, Kingston University) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 24 14:13:08 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA067780778; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:12:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10229; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:09:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:05:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09741; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:05:19 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09712; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:05:09 -0400 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id NAA07755 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:04:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610241804.NAA07755@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:04:45 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Unkown Hardware for Enhanced Video fix Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I knew I had this deep in my archives. This is a way to eliminate the ? for the Enhanced Video driver for 755CD's in Win95. I thought it would have been fixed by now, but I guess not. You only need to do it for the IBM0050= device. Thanks Mike Redmond ----------------From IBM Windows 95 (tpwin95) document...hopefully OK to redistribute---------------- o "Unknown Hardware" problem If you want to fix this problem, you first need to modify a Win95 information file in a hidden directory. If you are not familiar with Windows 95 or you are a non-experienced PC / Windows user, it's not recommended to do the following. Unexpected results may occur if you cannot follow the instructions correctly. 1. Go to MS-DOS Prompt 2. Type "CD INF" and press Enter to go to the subdirectory C:\WINDOWS\INF. (Note that C:\WINDOWS\INF is a hidden directory) 3. Back up NODRIVER.INF. Type "COPY NODRIVER.INF NODRIVER.BAK". These *.INF files are very important for Windows 95 Device Manager and you need to save the original one. 4. Edit NODRIVER.INF. Type "EDIT NODRIVER.INF" and press Enter. 5. Search =D5Manufacturer=FE section; Find the following statement. %IBMMfg%=3DIBM If you can find it, go to the next step. Otherwise, add this statement in =D5Manufacturer=FE section. 6. Search =D5IBM=FE section; if you don't find it, add =D5IBM=FE section somewhere between =D5Manufacturer=FE and =D5NODRIVER=FE section; find the following statement(s). %*IBMxxxx.DeviceDesc%=3DNODRIVER,*IBMxxxx (Note: xxxx of *IBMxxxx is a four digit number). Modify (or add) the statement(s) in this section as follows. (Note: IBM0050 and IBM36F1 is for ThinkPad 755 CD-ROM models only.) %*IBM0050.DeviceDesc%=3DNODRIVER,*IBM0050 %*IBM36E0.DeviceDesc%=3DNODRIVER,*IBM36E0 %*IBM36F1.DeviceDesc%=3DNODRIVER,*IBM36F1 %*IBM36F2.DeviceDesc%=3DNODRIVER,*IBM36F2 7. Search =D5String=FE section; find 'IBMMfg=3D"IBM"' statement; after this line, find the following statement. *IBMxxxx.DeviceDesc=3D"yyyyyy" (xxxx is a four digit number yyyyyy is a device name ) Modify (or add) the statement(s) in this section as follows. (Note: IBM0050 and IBM36F1 is for ThinkPad 755 CD-ROM models only.) *IBM0050.DeviceDesc=3D"ThinkPad Enhanced Video Device" *IBM00E0.DeviceDesc=3D"ThinkPad Mwave DSP" *IBM00F1.DeviceDesc=3D"Mwave MPU-401 MIDI Port" *IBM00F2.DeviceDesc=3D"Mwave Sound Blaster Support Device" 8. Save the modified NODRIVER.INF file. And exit MS-DOS prompt. Next, you need to remove "Unknown Device" (or "Mwave DSP") from Device Manager. Then need to refresh the hardware structure. 9. Click "My Computer" 10. Click "Control Panel" 11. Click "System" 12. Click on "Device Manager" tab 13. Click "+" mark of "Other devices"; you see "Unknown Device" (or "Mwave DSP processor"). 14. Click on "Unknown Device" (or "Mwave DSP") and click "Remove" button; click "OK" to confirm. 15. Click "Refresh" button; Windows 95 will restructure the device tree in "Device Manager" and you now should see correct device names under "Other detected devices". --------------------------------------------------------- If you encounter any unexpected results by doing the above, you might have failed to modify your NODRIVER.INF file correctly. You should recover your original NODRIVER.INF from NODRIVER.BAK which you've saved. Rename NODRIVER.BAK to NODRIVER.INF and do the above steps again, if desired. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 24 14:32:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA072011963; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:32:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12358; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:28:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:26:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12058; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:26:07 -0400 Received: from merle.acns.nwu.edu (merle.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12049; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:25:58 -0400 Received: from [129.105.76.29] by merle.acns.nwu.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA006151544; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:25:44 -0500 X-Sender: bberry@merle.acns.nwu.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961023222201.0103106c@scf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:25:41 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Berry Subject: Re: ThinkPad Battery Question Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I used to have a PowerBook 5300 (yeah, yeah I know...), and with PowerBooks you can reset the power manager, or battery manager, or whatever, and use a utility that drains the battery completely and recharges it. This keeps the battery from wearing out prematurely from the constant charging. Is there anything similar for the ThinkPad? Does IBM have any advice about battery usage and maintenance? >At 11:49 AM 10/23/96 -0700, P.van Schijndel wrote: >>I have an IBM 360CSE for about a year and a half. The battery life has >>gradually declined to the point that after only 70 seconds without any disk >>access (just typing this message, in fact, pulling the plug, and waiting) >>the >>ThinkPad beeps to signal low battery power, and 60 seconds after that, the >>ThinkPad beeps its final warning. >> >>What's wrong? Is my battery toast? Is there anything I can do to save it? > > Sounds like it to me. > > I'm surprised its toast after only a year and a half though. >Usually you can expect 2+ years before it gets anything like that--even with >fairly heavy use. > > Did you leave it plugged in a lot and did it "cycle" (discharge to >about 90% and then re-charge--constantly)? My 750 did that--it was a *very* >bad idea to leave it plugged in with the battery inside. All that constant >cycling got the battery into an early grave. > >------- >Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net >USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle > "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who >is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet ******************************************************************************** Bill Berry Program Assistant Records Department Office of Undergraduate Admission 1801 Hinman Avenue Evanston, IL 60208 Phone: 847-467-1918 Email: w-berry@nwu.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 24 14:33:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA072272012; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:33:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12350; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:28:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:24:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11880; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:24:56 -0400 Received: from netcom14.netcom.com (phr@netcom14.netcom.com [192.100.81.126]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11874; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:24:53 -0400 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom14.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id LAA06959; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 11:24:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 11:24:39 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199610241824.LAA06959@netcom14.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: re: 760ed with 80 meg, and lockups Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I've heard various reports of 760ED's locking up after several hours of operation. This sounds to me like a *separate* problem from the DIMM adapter sometimes not working when both slots are filled. The lockups seem to be caused by overheating, and the newest 760ED's (with the XGA screen) apparently have some kind of special thermal patch on the bottom, possibly to deal with this problem. I'm really uncomfortable with the heat level of every recent laptop I've used. I am really skeptical of their long term reliability because of how hot they get. I'm typing this on a 10+ year old Toshiba T1000SE with a 9.54 mhz 80c86. It seems completely unlikely that my 755cx will last that long. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 24 14:50:06 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA074912992; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:49:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14627; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:43:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:42:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14248; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:41:59 -0400 Received: from venus.teamquest.com (venus.teamquest.com [199.120.249.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14212; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:41:43 -0400 From: Received: from SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com (smtpgtwy.teamquest.com [199.120.249.99]) by venus.teamquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA04455; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 18:43:51 GMT Received: from cc:Mail by SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com id AA846189830; Thu, 24 Oct 96 13:43:03 CST Date: Thu, 24 Oct 96 13:43:03 CST Encoding: 66 Text Message-Id: <9609248461.AA846189830@SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Bill Berry Subject: Re[2]: ThinkPad Battery Question Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Yes. It's the Fuel Guage program in the ThinkPad (Group). It will discharge the battery. Like you said, it needs to be done periodically, usually when you notice battery life dimishing. You can also do it from the command line using PS2 DISCHARGE. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: ThinkPad Battery Question Author: Bill Berry at Gateway Date: 10/24/96 1:33 PM I used to have a PowerBook 5300 (yeah, yeah I know...), and with PowerBooks you can reset the power manager, or battery manager, or whatever, and use a utility that drains the battery completely and recharges it. This keeps the battery from wearing out prematurely from the constant charging. Is there anything similar for the ThinkPad? Does IBM have any advice about battery usage and maintenance? >At 11:49 AM 10/23/96 -0700, P.van Schijndel wrote: >>I have an IBM 360CSE for about a year and a half. The battery life has >>gradually declined to the point that after only 70 seconds without any disk >>access (just typing this message, in fact, pulling the plug, and waiting) >>the >>ThinkPad beeps to signal low battery power, and 60 seconds after that, the >>ThinkPad beeps its final warning. >> >>What's wrong? Is my battery toast? Is there anything I can do to save it? > > Sounds like it to me. > > I'm surprised its toast after only a year and a half though. >Usually you can expect 2+ years before it gets anything like that--even with >fairly heavy use. > > Did you leave it plugged in a lot and did it "cycle" (discharge to >about 90% and then re-charge--constantly)? My 750 did that--it was a *very* >bad idea to leave it plugged in with the battery inside. All that constant >cycling got the battery into an early grave. > >------- >Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net >USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle > "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who >is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet ******************************************************************************** Bill Berry Program Assistant Records Department Office of Undergraduate Admission 1801 Hinman Avenue Evanston, IL 60208 Phone: 847-467-1918 Email: w-berry@nwu.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 24 14:55:15 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA076293313; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:55:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15450; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:48:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:47:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15211; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:47:01 -0400 Received: from prefect.tenagra.com ([204.251.142.178]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15167; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:46:45 -0400 Received: from bayou.tenagra.com (bayou.tenagra.com [204.251.142.186]) by prefect.tenagra.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA25922 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:52:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610241852.NAA25922@prefect.tenagra.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Jeffrey Graham" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:47:00 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Someone please get me off this list! Reply-To: jgraham@tenagra.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Everyone, I have exhausted all possible methods of getting off this list. Help! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 24 14:57:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA076443422; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:57:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16050; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:53:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:51:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15788; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:51:39 -0400 Received: from portal.visa.com (portal.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15768; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:51:18 -0400 Received: by portal.visa.com id AA24079 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 18:51:09 GMT Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 18:51:09 GMT Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:48:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Rob Huber To: emr@teamquest.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, Bill Berry Subject: Re: Re[2]: ThinkPad Battery Question In-Reply-To: <9609248461.AA846189830@SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Is this for any TP/battery combination? I'm specifically interested in the TP701/NiMH combination. TIA On Thu, 24 Oct 1996 emr@teamquest.com wrote: > Yes. It's the Fuel Guage program in the ThinkPad (Group). It will discharge the > battery. Like you said, it needs to be done periodically, usually when you > notice battery life dimishing. You can also do it from the command line using > PS2 DISCHARGE. > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: Re: ThinkPad Battery Question > Author: Bill Berry at Gateway > Date: 10/24/96 1:33 PM > > > I used to have a PowerBook 5300 (yeah, yeah I know...), and with PowerBooks > you can reset the power manager, or battery manager, or whatever, and use a > utility that drains the battery completely and recharges it. This keeps the > battery from wearing out prematurely from the constant charging. > > Is there anything similar for the ThinkPad? Does IBM have any advice about > battery usage and maintenance? > > > > >At 11:49 AM 10/23/96 -0700, P.van Schijndel wrote: > >>I have an IBM 360CSE for about a year and a half. The battery life has > >>gradually declined to the point that after only 70 seconds without any disk > >>access (just typing this message, in fact, pulling the plug, and waiting) > >>the > >>ThinkPad beeps to signal low battery power, and 60 seconds after that, the > >>ThinkPad beeps its final warning. > >> > >>What's wrong? Is my battery toast? Is there anything I can do to save it? > > > > Sounds like it to me. > > > > I'm surprised its toast after only a year and a half though. > >Usually you can expect 2+ years before it gets anything like that--even with > >fairly heavy use. > > > > Did you leave it plugged in a lot and did it "cycle" (discharge to > >about 90% and then re-charge--constantly)? My 750 did that--it was a *very* > >bad idea to leave it plugged in with the battery inside. All that constant > >cycling got the battery into an early grave. > > > >------- > >Randy Whittle rwhittle@usa.net > >USC Graduate School of Business http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle > > "If you've been in the game for 30 minutes and still don't know who > >is the patsy...*YOU* are the patsy." - Warren Buffet > > > > > > ******************************************************************************** > > Bill Berry > Program Assistant > Records Department > > Office of Undergraduate Admission > 1801 Hinman Avenue > Evanston, IL 60208 > > Phone: 847-467-1918 > Email: w-berry@nwu.edu > > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 24 16:24:37 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA093738653; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:24:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01680; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:18:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:10:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00422; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:10:30 -0400 Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com (dogmead.excelsior.com [198.73.240.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00382; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:10:19 -0400 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA00371; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:09:53 -0400 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199610242009.QAA00371@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: Re[2]: ThinkPad Battery Question To: emr@teamquest.com Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:09:52 -0400 (EDT) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, w-berry@nwu.edu In-Reply-To: <9609248461.AA846189830@SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com> from "emr@teamquest.com" at Oct 24, 96 01:43:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Yes. It's the Fuel Guage program in the ThinkPad (Group). It will discharge the > battery. Like you said, it needs to be done periodically, usually when you > notice battery life dimishing. You can also do it from the command line using > PS2 DISCHARGE. The ThinkPad 360 series doesn't seem to have the ability to discharge the battery. Note that the stock 360 battery is a "dumb" NiMH, rather than the "smart" battery used by the 750 and 755 models. Although the 360 line can use the smart battery, it can't discharge it, either. I once tried putting a dumb battery in a 755, but the 755 didn't seem to recognize it at all. -- Tim Tyhurst tim@excelsior.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 24 16:27:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA094068855; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:27:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01683; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:18:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:11:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00538; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:11:41 -0400 Received: from GPO.iol.ie (GPO.iol.ie [194.125.2.239]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29544; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:07:46 -0400 Received: from mloftus.iol.ie (dialup-003.sligo.iol.ie [194.125.48.195]) by GPO.iol.ie Sendmail(v8.7.6) with ESMTP id VAA24892; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 21:06:15 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199610242006.VAA24892@GPO.iol.ie> From: "Mary Loftus" To: "Alexander Man" , Subject: Re: No 'Suspend' option on the 'Start' menu on my 750Cs Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 20:55:38 +0100 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Check out the Power icon in Control Panel - there is an option there to put Suspend on the Start Menu. ---------- > From: Alexander Man > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: No 'Suspend' option on the 'Start' menu on my 750Cs > Date: 24 October 1996 18:17 > > Hi everyone, > > Thanks for your help about 'batteries' information a few weeks ago. > Using the quoted times from users than from IBM has given a better idea > what to expect from my trusty ThinkPad. > > I'm a new subscriber... so here's my blurb about my ThinkPad! It's a > 12Mb 750Cs with ancient IBM Data/Fax Modem and Xircom Ethernet Adapter. > And, runs Windows 95 quite comfortably! I use mainly during teaching in > the primary school classroom... so, it gets knocked about a bit! > > In fact, brought a new battery for 120 UK Sterling the other week. Cor, > it has improved my life with the 750Cs (it doesn't drain so fast now!). > But IBM's quote for 190 UK Sterling at some places I've enquired is > absolutely absurd! > > Anyway, can anyone tell me why I don't get the 'Suspend' function in the > 'Start' menu in Windows 95? I know I can suspend quite easily using 'fn > and 4', but why doesn't it appear in the menu thingy! > > Is anything to do with the weird APM in the 750 series? > > Oh yes... my swap battery option doesn't work (fn and 11). Any ideas? > > Many thanks... > > Alexander Man (BEd Honours IV, Kingston University) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 24 16:32:06 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA094549120; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:32:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02053; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:19:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:17:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01542; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:16:53 -0400 Received: from tower.itis.com (tower.itis.com [205.243.195.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01500; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:16:21 -0400 Received: from m009557 (msn-9-6.binc.net [205.173.178.150]) by tower.itis.com (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA22230 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 15:15:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610242015.PAA22230@tower.itis.com> From: "Robert J. Karp" To: Subject: Re: Unkown Hardware for Enhanced Video fix Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 15:19:06 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu This is an exerpt from the Windows 95 upgrade document. The individual t= o whom you are replying really ought to have a copy: http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tpsu.html ---------- From: Michael Redmond To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Unkown Hardware for Enhanced Video fix Date: Thursday, October 24, 1996 1:04 PM I knew I had this deep in my archives. This is a way to eliminate the ? f= or the Enhanced Video driver for 755CD's in Win95. I thought it would have been fixed by now, but I guess not. You only need to do it for the IBM0050 device. Thanks Mike Redmond ----------------From IBM Windows 95 (tpwin95) document...hopefully OK to redistribute---------------- o "Unknown Hardware" problem If you want to fix this problem, you first need to modify a Win95 information file in a hidden directory. If you are not familiar with Windows 95 or you are a non-experienced PC / Windows user, it's not recommended to do the following. Unexpected results may occur if you cannot follow the instructions correctly. 1. Go to MS-DOS Prompt 2. Type "CD INF" and press Enter to go to the subdirectory C:\WINDOWS\INF. (Note that C:\WINDOWS\INF is a hidden directory) 3. Back up NODRIVER.INF. Type "COPY NODRIVER.INF NODRIVER.BAK". These *.INF files are very important for Windows 95 Device Manager and you need to save the original one. 4. Edit NODRIVER.INF. Type "EDIT NODRIVER.INF" and press Enter. 5. Search =D5Manufacturer=FE section; Find the following statement. %IBMMfg%=3DIBM If you can find it, go to the next step. Otherwise, add this statement in =D5Manufacturer=FE section. 6. Search =D5IBM=FE section; if you don't find it, add =D5IBM=FE sect= ion somewhere between =D5Manufacturer=FE and =D5NODRIVER=FE section; f= ind the following statement(s). %*IBMxxxx.DeviceDesc%=3DNODRIVER,*IBMxxxx (Note: xxxx of *IBMxxxx is a four digit number). Modify (or add) the statement(s) in this section as follows. (Note: IBM0050 and IBM36F1 is for ThinkPad 755 CD-ROM models only.) %*IBM0050.DeviceDesc%=3DNODRIVER,*IBM0050 %*IBM36E0.DeviceDesc%=3DNODRIVER,*IBM36E0 %*IBM36F1.DeviceDesc%=3DNODRIVER,*IBM36F1 %*IBM36F2.DeviceDesc%=3DNODRIVER,*IBM36F2 7. Search =D5String=FE section; find 'IBMMfg=3D"IBM"' statement; afte= r this line, find the following statement. *IBMxxxx.DeviceDesc=3D"yyyyyy" (xxxx is a four digit number yyyyyy is a device name ) Modify (or add) the statement(s) in this section as follows. (Note: IBM0050 and IBM36F1 is for ThinkPad 755 CD-ROM models only.) *IBM0050.DeviceDesc=3D"ThinkPad Enhanced Video Device" *IBM00E0.DeviceDesc=3D"ThinkPad Mwave DSP" *IBM00F1.DeviceDesc=3D"Mwave MPU-401 MIDI Port" *IBM00F2.DeviceDesc=3D"Mwave Sound Blaster Support Device" 8. Save the modified NODRIVER.INF file. And exit MS-DOS prompt. Next, you need to remove "Unknown Device" (or "Mwave DSP") from Device Manager. Then need to refresh the hardware structure. 9. Click "My Computer" 10. Click "Control Panel" 11. Click "System" 12. Click on "Device Manager" tab 13. Click "+" mark of "Other devices"; you see "Unknown Device" (or "Mwave DSP processor"). 14. Click on "Unknown Device" (or "Mwave DSP") and click "Remove" button; click "OK" to confirm. 15. Click "Refresh" button; Windows 95 will restructure the device tree in "Device Manager" and you now should see correct device names under "Other detected devices". --------------------------------------------------------- If you encounter any unexpected results by doing the above, you might have failed to modify your NODRIVER.INF file correctly. You should recover your original NODRIVER.INF from NODRIVER.BAK which you've saved. Rename NODRIVER.BAK to NODRIVER.INF and do the above steps again, if desired. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 24 16:50:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA097720203; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:50:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07220; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:46:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:43:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06725; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:43:51 -0400 Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com (emout15.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.41]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06660; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:43:41 -0400 From: Received: by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA18474 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:43:05 -0400 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:43:05 -0400 Message-Id: <961024164305_340136719@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 755cd 800 x 600 with 65K colors Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I would like to run video at 800 x 600 with 65k colors on external monitor. Running win 95. What do I need to do or get? Thank you Fred Millard From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 25 05:03:15 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA210394195; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 05:03:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA02065; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 05:01:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 25 Oct 1996 04:53:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA00694; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 04:53:36 -0400 Received: from wisteria.singnet.com.sg (wisteria.singnet.com.sg [165.21.1.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA00680; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 04:53:30 -0400 Received: from tomho.singnet.com.sg (ts900-3926.singnet.com.sg [165.21.153.78]) by wisteria.singnet.com.sg (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA11249 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 16:53:26 +0800 (SST) Message-Id: <199610250853.QAA11249@wisteria.singnet.com.sg> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Tom Ho" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 16:53:22 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Syquest PCMCIA drive w/ removable media Reply-To: tomho@singnet.com.sg Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 14:22:48 -0400 > From: "John H. Kim" > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Syquest PCMCIA drive w/ removable media > I stumbled across this while browsing some palmtop pages and thought > it might be of interest to others here. > > http://www.syquest.com/syquest/p960109b.htm > http://www.microtechint.com/PRpages/PRSQ1100 > > It's a PCMCIA type III device with a removable 100 MB cartridge > (a-la ZIP and other Syquest products). Basically a Zip-like drive > that fits into a PCMCIA slot. Cartridges are about 2" square and > weigh less than an ounce - pretty impressive for 100 MB. I can't > find any more info about it. Was it discontinued? Is it really > ugly and sticks a foot outside the PCMCIA slot or something? > Anybody know any more? -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu > Hi, I called the local distributor for Syquest for my area and got the answer that Syquest actually never manufactured this drive for sale in the market. They did some produced as prototype or something but so far they don't have any intention to mass produce them. Personally, I think it is better than using a zip drive except the costs factor. It does require external power supply and doesn't take up a lot of space when travelling. May be if more people make enough request they might seriously consider to start making it for the market. ------------------------------------- Tom Ho tomho@singnet.com.sg Singapore From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 25 09:05:41 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA235638738; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 09:05:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00949; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 09:03:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 25 Oct 1996 08:59:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29862; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 08:59:09 -0400 Received: from stone.tic.ch (stone.tic.ch [193.193.144.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29854; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 08:58:55 -0400 Received: from ar-laptop.tic.ch (luzern_ppp41.tic.ch [193.193.148.43]) by stone.tic.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA12811 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 15:01:19 +0200 (MDT) Received: by ar-laptop.tic.ch with Microsoft Mail id <01BBC284.A27A0D40@ar-laptop.tic.ch>; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 14:56:00 +-100 Message-Id: <01BBC284.A27A0D40@ar-laptop.tic.ch> From: Andrew Richards To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: Problem with direct cable connection Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 14:09:23 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I got direct cable connection working last night between a PC and my 701. In my case I didn't have the relevant protocol (Microsoft IPX/SPX compatible) installed on both machines. Once I did that it all worked (see Control panel, network). I used the shared floppy/printer port on the ThinkPad - no port replicator. have fun, Andrew ---------- From: Maurice klein Gebbinck[SMTP:mauricek@cs.kun.nl] Sent: Donnerstag, 24. Oktober 1996 08:00 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: Stephen Mosley Subject: Re: Problem with direct cable connection Stephen Mosley wrote: > > I am trying to connect a TP701C to a desktop PC using the Direct Cable > connection feature in Windows 95. Has anyone ever gotten this to work? I > would like to know. You are in luck: I have experimented with the DCC last week and succeeded in establishing a connection. The problem is that there is an IRQ-conflict between the Audio System and the parallel port. A solution is to change the IRQ of the Audio System, see ftp://204.146.167.81/pub/pccbbs/corrective_service/wn95701.txt <> For me this did the trick. As someone on this list suggested, I tried setting the IRQ of the floppy/parallel port (stand-alone) to #5. If I hold down f8 while booting Win95 to go to DOS, the BIOS-configuration utility (?) shows the port to have IRQ 5 (and EPP/378), just as selected. If I boot Win95 all the way, the BIOS-configuration utility says the current port setting is IRQ7/ECP/378, although there is no |> sign (indicating that the setting was changed) in front of the IRQ5/EPP/378 setting in the menu where you can alter it. I am wondering whether this is a display error of the BIOS-configuration utility, or that by some magic trick the setting of the port has changed. How is this possible? Does anyone else have this as well? > The configuration I am trying is parallel port to parallel port via a > standard laplink paralell cable. Done it. I can't seem to get it to work after all > the permutations and reconfigurations I could try, I think the problem is > that the TP port replicator uses LPT2 but the printer port on the desktop > is LPT1, According to the standard settings on my computer the floppy/parallel port has address 378 in stand-alone mode, and 278 in multiport mode. The parallel port (multiport) has address 378. In Win95 LPT1 is set at address 378, and LPT2 at 278. Conclusion: when the multiport is attached, its parallel port is LPT1, and the floppy/parallel port is LPT2. but when I try to use the floppy drive port on the TP (with the > parallel port converter attached) this doesn't work either. In theorie, with the multiport attached you should be able to use the floppy/parallel port for a connection on LPT2 without changing the IRQ-settings. Have not tried it yet. Hope this will help, Maurice -- Maurice klein Gebbinck University of Nijmegen, Computing Science Institute Toernooiveld 1, 6525 ED Nijmegen, The Netherlands Phone +31 24 3652710, Fax +31 24 3553450 http://www.cs.kun.nl/~mauricek From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 25 11:59:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA258649147; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 11:59:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00151; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 11:53:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 25 Oct 1996 11:47:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29019; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 11:47:45 -0400 Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29005; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 11:47:37 -0400 Received: from falkor (heiby.pr.mcs.net [204.95.55.134]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.0/8.8.Beta.3) with SMTP id KAA08957 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 10:47:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199610251547.KAA08957@Kitten.mcs.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Ron Heiby" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 10:47:24 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: modem lost after suspend (Win95, TP760CD) Reply-To: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, my 755CE was already set up for advanced power management. Yet, I have a problem getting the Mwave modem's attention after coming out of suspend. One thing I've noticed about it is that it seems the problem applies only to the DOS comm software I use to access CompuServe (TapCIS). If I try firing up Kermit-95, it can talk to the modem with no problem. Then, after exiting from Kermit, TapCIS can use the modem normally. Also, it seems as though this is not an "every time" sort of thing. I am running the new Mwave 2.22 software. Ron. Ron. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 25 16:25:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA014725102; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 16:25:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05137; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 16:22:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 25 Oct 1996 16:15:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04333; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 16:15:56 -0400 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu ([128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04220; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 16:15:36 -0400 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA25363; Fri, 25 Oct 96 09:30:06 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA20283; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 09:30:20 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199610251930.JAA20283@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: Syquest PCMCIA drive w/ removable media To: tomho@singnet.com.sg Date: Fri, 25 Oct 96 9:30:16 HST Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199610250853.QAA11249@wisteria.singnet.com.sg>; from "Tom Ho" at Oct 25, 96 4:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Tom Ho said: > Hi, I called the local distributor for Syquest for my area and got > the answer that Syquest actually never manufactured this drive for > sale in the market. They did some produced as prototype or something > but so far they don't have any intention to mass produce them. I think your local distributor was dissembling here; this drive showed up in at least one mail order catalogue - obviously prematurely, but the appearance indicates that Syquest definitely planned retail manufacture. Probably they couldn't get the cost/reliability/performance equation to work to their satisfaction. Too bad, I would have bought one. - David (ross@math.hawaii.edu) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri Oct 25 20:33:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA056829999; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 20:33:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00419; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 20:31:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Fri, 25 Oct 1996 20:27:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29514; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 20:27:37 -0400 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29508; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 20:27:33 -0400 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA03225; Fri, 25 Oct 1996 17:27:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johnp (tesu-pc2.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA13085 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Fri, 25 Oct 1996 17:27:24 -0700 From: "John Pham" Message-Id: <961025173610.ZM12934@johnp> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 17:15:52 -0700 In-Reply-To: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) "re: 760ed with 80 meg, and lockups" (Oct 24, 11:24am) References: <199610241824.LAA06959@netcom14.netcom.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0.1 (4.0.1 Sep 19 1996) To: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 760ed with 80 meg, and lockups Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Oct 24, 11:24am, Paul Rubin wrote: > Subject: re: 760ed with 80 meg, and lockups > I've heard various reports of 760ED's locking up after several hours > of operation. This sounds to me like a *separate* problem from the > DIMM adapter sometimes not working when both slots are filled. The > lockups seem to be caused by overheating, and the newest 760ED's (with > the XGA screen) apparently have some kind of special thermal patch on > the bottom, possibly to deal with this problem. > > I'm really uncomfortable with the heat level of every recent > laptop I've used. I am really skeptical of their long term > reliability because of how hot they get. I'm typing this > on a 10+ year old Toshiba T1000SE with a 9.54 mhz 80c86. > It seems completely unlikely that my 755cx will last that long. >-- End of excerpt from Paul Rubin I hoped this is the case for other people who has this problem but unfortunately for me, the machine will lock up regardless of how long it's been on if I picked it up. It even refused to boot if I hold it at an angle and needed to have a flat surface in order to boot. It seems that the machine does not like altitude changes and I can't afford to give it a flight test (eventhough I'd love to do that). John Pham From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat Oct 26 14:31:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA189824631; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 14:30:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01448; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 14:25:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sat, 26 Oct 1996 14:09:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29168; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 14:09:41 -0400 Received: from london.uk.pi.net (london.uk.pi.net [194.73.192.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29161; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 14:09:38 -0400 Received: from pi-user.uk.pi.net (d1b18.uk.pi.net [194.73.76.46]) by london.uk.pi.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA13342 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 1996 18:48:37 +0100 Message-Id: <32724D8C.233E@uk.pi.net> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 18:42:36 +0100 From: Alexander Man X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: I still need help with 'Suspend' on Windows 95!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Many thanks to Dean Cashen and Mary Loftus for their help about my 'Suspend' problem with my 750Cs. Did what they suggested... Control Panel... Power... etc. But, strangely I can't choose the option to display 'Suspend' on the menu. It won't let me go for either 'Always' or 'Only when undocked'. It's locked onto 'Never'. My trusty 750Cs should be able to support this? I read in one of those Windows 95 type Bible books that it maybe something to do with APM 1.0 and APM 1.1. The 750Cs has a strange APM version I once read off the FAQ? I've upgraded my BIOS a few weeks ago from the IBM site too. I'm just confused! Alexander Man Kingston University From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 27 12:33:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA064337601; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 12:33:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07487; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 12:31:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 27 Oct 1996 12:25:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06560; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 12:25:08 -0500 Received: from albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu [128.52.46.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06545; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 12:25:03 -0500 Received: from apple-gunkies by albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12GNU) with ESMTP id MAA21002 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 12:25:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199610271725.MAA21002@albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu> From: "Rick Tait" To: Subject: Where to get NT4.0 gfx WD90C24A driver? Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:27:26 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi folks, Y'all know the story - I installed NT4.0 on my Thinkpad 755CX - all is going very well. Apart from the GFX situation... :( Under Win95, I successfully ran 800x600x16-bit colour, but the best I can get under NT4.0 is 800x600x8-bit - and it's killing me. I *know* the GFX card can go up to 16-bit colour at 800x600 and I have searched the Net exhaustively trying to find a driver... Might anyone know of somewhere I can get said driver and apease my web-graphic building pains? I know it's a Stinkpad, but surely any Western Digital 90C24A driver will do? Help! Does *ANYONE* on the list have NT4.0 going at 800x600x16-bit on ANY of their Thinkpads??? .rickt -- Rick Tait From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun Oct 27 14:19:32 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA073703971; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 14:19:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16021; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 14:17:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Sun, 27 Oct 1996 14:09:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14558; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 14:09:46 -0500 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14545; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 14:09:37 -0500 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA09212; Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:09:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from johnppp.lantronix.com by mulligan with SMTP id AA15055 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:09:25 -0800 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 96 10:14:39 Pacific Standard Time From: John Pham Subject: Re: Where to get NT4.0 gfx WD90C24A driver? To: Rick Tait , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Chameleon ATX 6.0, Standards Based IntraNet Solutions, NetManage Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199610271725.MAA21002@albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Have you looked in the drvlib\video on the NT 4.0 CD? That's where I got the driver for my 760ELD so it could use 800x600x64k in NT4.0. John Pham --- On Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:27:26 -0600 Rick Tait wrote: Hi folks, Y'all know the story - I installed NT4.0 on my Thinkpad 755CX - all is going very well. Apart from the GFX situation... :( Under Win95, I successfully ran 800x600x16-bit colour, but the best I can get under NT4.0 is 800x600x8-bit - and it's killing me. I *know* the GFX card can go up to 16-bit colour at 800x600 and I have searched the Net exhaustively trying to find a driver... Might anyone know of somewhere I can get said driver and apease my web-graphic building pains? I know it's a Stinkpad, but surely any Western Digital 90C24A driver will do? Help! Does *ANYONE* on the list have NT4.0 going at 800x600x16-bit on ANY of their Thinkpads??? .rickt -- Rick Tait ---------------End of Original Message----------------- -------------------------------------------------------- Name: John Pham E-mail: John Pham Date: 10/27/96 Time: 10:14:39 -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 05:14:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA174867639; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 05:13:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA28748; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 05:12:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 05:07:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA27940; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 05:07:27 -0500 Received: from kari.fm.unit.no (kari.fm.unit.no [129.241.26.200]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA27934; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 05:07:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (larsev@localhost) by kari.fm.unit.no (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA05538; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:04:30 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:04:28 +0100 (MET) From: Lars Christian Evensen To: Rick Tait Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Where to get NT4.0 gfx WD90C24A driver? In-Reply-To: <199610271725.MAA21002@albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Rick Tait wrote: > Hi folks, > > Y'all know the story - I installed NT4.0 on my Thinkpad 755CX - all is > going very well. Apart from the GFX situation... :( Under Win95, I > successfully ran 800x600x16-bit colour, but the best I can get under NT4.0 > is 800x600x8-bit - and it's killing me. I *know* the GFX card can go up to > 16-bit colour at 800x600 and I have searched the Net exhaustively trying to > find a driver... Might anyone know of somewhere I can get said driver and > apease my web-graphic building pains? I found it at ibm pcco in august, and got my TP 755CX working with 800x600x16bit > I know it's a Stinkpad, but surely any Western Digital 90C24A driver will > do? Help! Does *ANYONE* on the list have NT4.0 going at 800x600x16-bit on > ANY of their Thinkpads??? Yes, I have had it working. Take a look at pcco, and you should fiond the driver there. CU LArs From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 07:16:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA186774960; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:16:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16639; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:14:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:12:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16500; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:11:59 -0500 Received: from albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu [128.52.46.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16494; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:11:54 -0500 Received: from apple-gunkies by albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12GNU) with ESMTP id HAA16225; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:11:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199610281211.HAA16225@albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu> From: "Rick Tait" To: "Lars Christian Evensen" Cc: Subject: Re: Where to get NT4.0 gfx WD90C24A driver? Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 06:13:50 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Lars, I found the vf75xnt.* files, but after viewing the README it says that only 256 colours are supported at ALL resolutions...! :( Is it *really* possible? Could you possibly tell me what drivers it is using in your installation of NT? THanks, .rickt ---------- > From: Lars Christian Evensen > To: Rick Tait > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Where to get NT4.0 gfx WD90C24A driver? > Date: Monday, October 28, 1996 4:04 AM > > On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Rick Tait wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > Y'all know the story - I installed NT4.0 on my Thinkpad 755CX - all is > > going very well. Apart from the GFX situation... :( Under Win95, I > > successfully ran 800x600x16-bit colour, but the best I can get under NT4.0 > > is 800x600x8-bit - and it's killing me. I *know* the GFX card can go up to > > 16-bit colour at 800x600 and I have searched the Net exhaustively trying to > > find a driver... Might anyone know of somewhere I can get said driver and > > apease my web-graphic building pains? > > I found it at ibm pcco in august, and got my TP 755CX working with > 800x600x16bit > > > I know it's a Stinkpad, but surely any Western Digital 90C24A driver will > > do? Help! Does *ANYONE* on the list have NT4.0 going at 800x600x16-bit on > > ANY of their Thinkpads??? > > Yes, I have had it working. Take a look at pcco, and you should fiond the > driver there. > > CU > > LArs > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 08:17:26 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA192878645; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:17:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20575; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:16:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:13:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20318; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:13:31 -0500 Received: from venus.teamquest.com (venus.teamquest.com [199.120.249.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20312; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:13:26 -0500 From: Received: from SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com (smtpgtwy.teamquest.com [199.120.249.99]) by venus.teamquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA22651; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:15:26 GMT Received: from cc:Mail by SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com id AA846515726; Mon, 28 Oct 96 07:10:26 CST Date: Mon, 28 Oct 96 07:10:26 CST Encoding: 52 Text Message-Id: <9609288465.AA846515726@SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com> To: rickt@gnu.ai.mit.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, John Pham Subject: Re[2]: Where to get NT4.0 gfx WD90C24A driver? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu John, Could you let me know the name of the driver file for the 760ELD you found on the NT 4.0 CD? I need it too. Thanks. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Where to get NT4.0 gfx WD90C24A driver? Author: John Pham at Gateway Date: 10/27/96 10:14 AM Have you looked in the drvlib\video on the NT 4.0 CD? That's where I got the driver for my 760ELD so it could use 800x600x64k in NT4.0. John Pham --- On Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:27:26 -0600 Rick Tait wrote: Hi folks, Y'all know the story - I installed NT4.0 on my Thinkpad 755CX - all is going very well. Apart from the GFX situation... :( Under Win95, I successfully ran 800x600x16-bit colour, but the best I can get under NT4.0 is 800x600x8-bit - and it's killing me. I *know* the GFX card can go up to 16-bit colour at 800x600 and I have searched the Net exhaustively trying to find a driver... Might anyone know of somewhere I can get said driver and apease my web-graphic building pains? I know it's a Stinkpad, but surely any Western Digital 90C24A driver will do? Help! Does *ANYONE* on the list have NT4.0 going at 800x600x16-bit on ANY of their Thinkpads??? .rickt -- Rick Tait ---------------End of Original Message----------------- -------------------------------------------------------- Name: John Pham E-mail: John Pham Date: 10/27/96 Time: 10:14:39 -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 08:19:27 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA193028765; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:19:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18182; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:39:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:36:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA17839; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:36:31 -0500 Received: from kari.fm.unit.no (kari.fm.unit.no [129.241.26.200]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA17830; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:36:21 -0500 Received: from localhost (larsev@localhost) by kari.fm.unit.no (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA08954; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:35:54 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:35:53 +0100 (MET) From: Lars Christian Evensen To: Rick Tait Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Where to get NT4.0 gfx WD90C24A driver In-Reply-To: <199610281211.HAA16225@albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > I found the vf75xnt.* files, but after viewing the README it says that only > 256 colours are supported at ALL resolutions...! :( Is it *really* > possible? Yes, I managed to get it going in the beta2 release. I have not tried it in the final release though, since I don't have access to it. I don't remember what the file was called, but I found it in a file which detailed the things you had to do to install NT on thinkpads. > Could you possibly tell me what drivers it is using in your installation of > NT? Well, I have deleted NT, since my main OS is OS/2. As I recall, you also needed to install TP-features for NT to get the resolution going. CU LArs From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 08:25:48 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA194169147; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:25:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21793; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:23:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:22:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21588; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:22:13 -0500 Received: from emout20.mail.aol.com (emout20.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21582; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:22:10 -0500 From: Received: by emout20.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA15948 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:21:38 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:21:38 -0500 Message-Id: <961028082138_1481736830@emout20.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP:"Too Hot for Lap" 755CX Laptop Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I don't know if maybe I'm being picky here, or perhaps I have a real problem, so I'm asking for some help. I've been travelling with my Thinkpad 755CX a lot lately and using it on my lap, and I find that I have to put a pillow between me and the bottom of the computer as it is generating a "LOT" of heat. The heat is concentrated toward the back end of the machine, not under the hard drive and Ultrabay. The only thermometer in the house only goes up to 110F and it hit the top. This much heat seems like it will damage the system in a hurry. Am I paranoid about a "feature" of thinkpads, or is there perhaps a problem with mine that I should send in for service. Thanx - Mike Pinter, Sr. Tenneco Automotive From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 08:45:36 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA196470333; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:45:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25839; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:43:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:41:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25479; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:41:45 -0500 Received: from riverside.mr.net (root@Riverside.MR.Net [137.192.2.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25432; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:41:37 -0500 Received: from up by riverside.mr.net (8.7.6/SMI-4.1.R931202) id HAA00562; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:41:26 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3274B7F8.1FBA@mr.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:41:12 -0600 From: roman Reply-To: oops@MR.Net Organization: htv inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: MPinter@aol.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP:"Too Hot for Lap" 755CX Laptop References: <961028082138_1481736830@emout20.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu in minnesota, we supplement our nuclear power plant with heat by using our TP's, in the winter the TP's are mendatory to keep our driveways snow free...welcome to another life-style addition, courtesy of IBM...same folks that brought us os/2, micro-channel,pc junior, etc... MPinter@aol.com wrote: > > I don't know if maybe I'm being picky here, or perhaps I have a real problem, > so I'm asking for some help. I've been travelling with my Thinkpad 755CX a > lot lately and using it on my lap, and I find that I have to put a pillow > between me and the bottom of the computer as it is generating a "LOT" of > heat. The heat is concentrated toward the back end of the machine, not under > the hard drive and Ultrabay. The only thermometer in the house only goes up > to 110F and it hit the top. This much heat seems like it will damage the > system in a hurry. > > Am I paranoid about a "feature" of thinkpads, or is there perhaps a problem > with mine that I should send in for service. > > Thanx > - Mike Pinter, Sr. > Tenneco Automotive -- high tech ventures, inc. fax 612 771 9939 minnesota usa oops@mr.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 10:53:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA216827983; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:53:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14524; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:48:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:44:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13706; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:43:59 -0500 Received: from albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu [128.52.46.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13666; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:43:54 -0500 Received: from apple-gunkies by albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12GNU) with ESMTP id KAA18258; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:43:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199610281543.KAA18258@albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu> From: "Rick Tait" To: "Lars Christian Evensen" Cc: Subject: Re: Where to get NT4.0 gfx WD90C24A driver Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:45:49 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well... After *exhaustively* searching all the IBM sites I can find (including all the ones that Lars and others have suggested), the only thing I could find that remotely seems to be what we're all looking for is a file called vf75xwnt.exe, and it's accompanying .doc file. The problem is that these drivers are for NT 3.51 *only*. Lars - do you recall if the file you had was specific to NT 4.0 beta, or did you use a rollback 3.51 driver? Also, I am trying to extract this .exe so I can at least test it on my machine - and I have NO IDEA how to do that. I have one .EXE file, and when I try to run it, it tells me... C:\HOME\rickt\Thinkpad Stuff>dir *exe Volume in drive C is WINNTBOOT Volume Serial Number is 2762-1B02 Directory of C:\HOME\rickt\Thinkpad Stuff 10/21/96 11:18p 1,025,663 uttpgwnt.exe 10/21/96 09:14p 839,041 mwavent1.exe 10/21/96 09:35p 1,126,205 mwavent2.exe 10/28/96 09:05a 1,028,793 vf75xwnt.exe 4 File(s) 4,019,702 bytes 176,357,376 bytes free C:\HOME\rickt\Thinkpad Stuff>vf75xwnt Usage : OS2 /P /C What does this mean? What are the /P and /C switches? How do I extract this damn file? Goddamnit! Why can't I get a straight answer from IBM support!!! ARGH! .rickt ---------- > From: Lars Christian Evensen > To: Rick Tait > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Where to get NT4.0 gfx WD90C24A driver > Date: Monday, October 28, 1996 6:35 AM > > > > > I found the vf75xnt.* files, but after viewing the README it says that only > > 256 colours are supported at ALL resolutions...! :( Is it *really* > > possible? > > Yes, I managed to get it going in the beta2 release. I have not tried it > in the final release though, since I don't have access to it. > > I don't remember what the file was called, but I found it in a file which > detailed the things you had to do to install NT on thinkpads. > > > Could you possibly tell me what drivers it is using in your installation of > > NT? > > Well, I have deleted NT, since my main OS is OS/2. > > As I recall, you also needed to install TP-features for NT to get the > resolution going. > > CU > > LArs > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 11:01:51 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA218398509; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:01:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16541; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:59:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:57:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16173; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:57:08 -0500 Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu (uconnvm.uconn.edu [137.99.26.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16114; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:57:02 -0500 Received: from oasis.vpia.uconn.edu by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 28 Oct 96 10:56:47 EST Received: from OASIS/MERCURYQ by oasis.vpia.uconn.edu (Mercury 1.21); 28 Oct 96 11:00:13 EST Received: from MERCURYQ by OASIS (Mercury 1.21); 28 Oct 96 10:59:44 EST From: "Guy W. Farrell" Organization: The UConn Foundation, Inc. To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:59:38 EST Subject: Error 08611 on a TP755 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-Id: <2DF8EEF52BA@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu> Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu (While in the queue with Tech support...) Anyone know this error offhand? Nothing is obviously wrong with the 'Pad except the TrackPoint will only move from extreme right to left without traversing the space in between. And it only boots to diagnostics ... which don't reveal any problems. Guy W. Farrell Network Coordinator (860)486-5000 The UConn Foundation, Inc. (800)269-9965 U-Box 206 Storrs, CT 06269-4190 E-mail: gfarrell@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu Computer Support for Institutional Advancement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 11:28:19 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA223240093; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:28:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20155; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:19:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:15:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19372; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:15:47 -0500 Received: from albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu [128.52.46.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19320; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:15:24 -0500 Received: from apple-gunkies by albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12GNU) with ESMTP id LAA18656 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:15:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199610281615.LAA18656@albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu> From: "Rick Tait" To: Subject: Straight from the Horse's Mouth... Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:17:42 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Just got off the phone with IBM's NT4.0 support group... It seems that since the 755CX is a withdrawn (read: no longer available) model, there is not currently a driver to support 16-bit colour at 800x600, nor will there ever be such a driver. Bummer. So it looks like I'll either have to stick with 8-bit, or go ahead and install NT4.0 on my TP760c, which unfortunately has less memory (24MB). Damn Damn Damn Damn. Does anyone have a price for a 16MB memory module thingy for a 760c out there? I need one ASAP! .rickt -- Rick Tait From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 11:42:38 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA226000957; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:42:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23520; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:37:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:35:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22700; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:35:08 -0500 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22658; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:35:01 -0500 Received: from ppp-jesse (tuna-37.ppp.hooked.net [206.80.8.165]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA24266 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:34:46 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0b16.32.19961028083313.006edcfc@mailhost.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b16 (32) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:34:46 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: jesse montrose Subject: Re: TP:"Too Hot for Lap" 755CX Laptop Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Yes, they're very hot.. I use a thing from silicon sports, it's a hard, thin, laptop pad with a thick wristrest on one end. The whole thing is covered with that wetsuit material they used in their "skintight" laptop cases, and with the TP feet down, it allows enough air to circulate between me and the heat that it's comfortable to use.. I picked it up at a local consumer electronics store (Good Guys) for $20. You might also try using a hardbound book, that's what I used to use.. keeps the heat away from you a lot better than a pillow if you have the feet down.. _____________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.spine.com After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 12:03:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA229062189; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:03:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26575; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:56:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:54:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26151; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:54:06 -0500 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26059; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:53:53 -0500 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA29846; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:53:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from johnppp.lantronix.com (tesu-pc2.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA12150 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:53:39 -0800 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 96 09:57:23 Pacific Standard Time From: John Pham Subject: Re: Re[2]: Where to get NT4.0 gfx WD90C24A driver? To: emr@teamquest.com, John Pham , rickt@gnu.ai.mit.edu, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Chameleon ATX 6.0, Standards Based IntraNet Solutions, NetManage Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <9609288465.AA846515726@SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The filename is TGIUL40.SYS which is in drvlib\video\trident directory. The proper way to install this is to have WinNT look at the directory when you change your video driver. This driver will allow you to run at 32K or 64K colors in 800x600 mode. John --- On Mon, 28 Oct 96 07:10:26 CST emr@teamquest.com wrote: John, Could you let me know the name of the driver file for the 760ELD you found on the NT 4.0 CD? I need it too. Thanks. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Where to get NT4.0 gfx WD90C24A driver? Author: John Pham at Gateway Date: 10/27/96 10:14 AM Have you looked in the drvlib\video on the NT 4.0 CD? That's where I got the driver for my 760ELD so it could use 800x600x64k in NT4.0. John Pham --- On Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:27:26 -0600 Rick Tait wrote: Hi folks, Y'all know the story - I installed NT4.0 on my Thinkpad 755CX - all is going very well. Apart from the GFX situation... :( Under Win95, I successfully ran 800x600x16-bit colour, but the best I can get under NT4.0 is 800x600x8-bit - and it's killing me. I *know* the GFX card can go up to 16-bit colour at 800x600 and I have searched the Net exhaustively trying to find a driver... Might anyone know of somewhere I can get said driver and apease my web-graphic building pains? I know it's a Stinkpad, but surely any Western Digital 90C24A driver will do? Help! Does *ANYONE* on the list have NT4.0 going at 800x600x16-bit on ANY of their Thinkpads??? .rickt -- Rick Tait ---------------End of Original Message----------------- -------------------------------------------------------- Name: John Pham E-mail: John Pham Date: 10/27/96 Time: 10:14:39 -------------------------------------------------------- ---------------End of Original Message----------------- -------------------------------------------------------- Name: John Pham E-mail: John Pham Date: 10/28/96 Time: 09:57:23 -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 13:02:26 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA241285734; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:02:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04741; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:55:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:50:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04117; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:50:05 -0500 Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (root@netcom9.netcom.com [192.100.81.119]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04080; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:49:59 -0500 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id JAA09020; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:34:56 -0800 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:34:56 -0800 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199610281734.JAA09020@netcom9.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 755cx: 16 bit color, heat Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Re 16 bit color, I used 16 bit color under w95 for a while, but screen updates were so much slower than with 8 bit color that I switched back to 8 bit. I would consider 16 bit color on this system to be a marketing checklist item rather than something actually useful. 8 bit color is good enough for what I usually do, though. Re heat: putting a pillow under your thinkpad seems like a bad idea. Pillows are usually made of insulating material that keeps heat from escaping, bringing your system even closer to meltdown. I use a Silicon Sports palmrest-gizmo that puts a stiff foam-covered layer between the thinkpad and your lap, and doesn't seem to cause as much heat buildup as a pillow (I had also tried a pillow for a while). I really like the Silicon Sports thing since the palmrest also makes typing more comfortable. I've mentioned this before but I really don't like the heat level current laptops run at. They seem to like cranking the clock speeds up to just short of meltdown. Then if process improvements cut the cpu power consumption at a given clock rate, rather than letting the chip run cooler, they crank up the clock some more. I'd much rather have a cool-running 100 mhz machine than a blistering hot 133 mhz machine. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 13:40:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA249937987; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:39:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08119; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:34:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:32:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07944; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:32:40 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07889; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:31:21 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id NAA15867; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:32:27 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:32:27 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Paul Rubin Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 755cx: 16 bit color, heat In-Reply-To: <199610281734.JAA09020@netcom9.netcom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Paul Rubin wrote: > I've mentioned this before but I really don't like the > heat level current laptops run at. They seem to > like cranking the clock speeds up to just short of > meltdown. Then if process improvements cut the cpu power > consumption at a given clock rate, rather than letting > the chip run cooler, they crank up the clock some more. > I'd much rather have a cool-running 100 mhz machine than > a blistering hot 133 mhz machine. I'll say it again. Intel CPUs have a halt instruction built in. Linux uses it and runs cool on my 701. I hear OS/2 uses it as well. Windows 95 does not and runs almost unbearably hot. I don't know about Windows NT. I can make Linux run as hot as Win95 by leaving a processor-intensive background task running. Nag Microsoft to fix Windows. -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 13:48:30 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA251768508; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:48:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08778; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:40:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:37:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08468; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:37:54 -0500 Received: from park.interport.net ([199.184.165.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08460; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:37:38 -0500 Received: from interport.net (alster@madison.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.1]) by park.interport.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA29181 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:37:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (alster@localhost) by interport.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA21193 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:37:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:37:04 -0500 (EST) From: aoster Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: heat In-Reply-To: <199610281734.JAA09020@netcom9.netcom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Paul Rubin wrote: > Re heat: putting a pillow under your thinkpad seems like a bad idea. > Pillows are usually made of insulating material that keeps heat from > escaping, bringing your system even closer to meltdown. Yes, I found this out on Sunday. I had my ThinkPad 760E (133MHz) on a bed for about six hours ... until my PC Card modem started to disconnect often, inconsistent speed ... fast, sluggish, fast again, sluggish again ... without any new applications opened, just general weirdness, etc. I then heard weird high pitch beeps from the machine. Uhm, anyone have any idea what that could have been? Is there a heat sensor alarm? Anyway, I shut the machine down and didn't use it until this morning. It's running fine, sitting on a Formica desktop. I'm going to sit it on a book (or something that conducts hear better) from now on. > I've mentioned this before but I really don't like the heat level > current laptops run at. They seem to like cranking the clock speeds up > to just short of meltdown. Then if process improvements cut the cpu > power consumption at a given clock rate, rather than letting the chip > run cooler, they crank up the clock some more. I'd much rather have a > cool-running 100 mhz machine than a blistering hot 133 mhz machine. Unless the machine is leased/rented and replaced every six months :) --- alster@interport.net allen@metaverse.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 13:55:14 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA252828912; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:55:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08970; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:41:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:39:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08588; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:39:18 -0500 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08568; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:39:04 -0500 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id MAA10405; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:38:08 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199610281838.MAA10405@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:38:03 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: tp 755cd and 4x cd rom Cc: Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I just got one of the 4X CD-ROM drives from someone that upgraded their 760 CD drive from 4X to 6X. The 4X (CD44E) does indeed work in my 755CD. It basically fits, though it hangs out in front by a minuscule amount (maybe 1mm). It looks fine and seems to work fine. There is a grounding tab in the back area of the cabinet that did make contact with the 2X drive (CD40E) but doesn't with the 4X drive. I am hoping that will not be a problem. So those of you planning to upgrade to 6X drives for the 760's may want to consider advertising your 4X drives here for folks wanting to upgrade their 755CD's. It's better than having the old drives rot in the closet as I expect will now happen to my 2X CD Drive. Again, the 4X worked for me but I will not absolutely guarantee that it will work for you. (my disclaimer) Thanks Mike Redmond ---------- At 07:27 PM 10/21/96 -0400, you wrote: >Does anyone know if the 4x cd rom drive which ships with the 760 will work in >a tp 755cd? > >thanks > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 14:30:35 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA260651030; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:30:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07242; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:24:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:19:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06656; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:19:04 -0500 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06631; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:18:46 -0500 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA02957; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:01:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from johnppp.lantronix.com (tesu-pc2.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA24227 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:01:32 -0800 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 96 11:07:38 Pacific Standard Time From: John Pham Subject: Re: TP:"Too Hot for Lap" 755CX Laptop To: jesse montrose , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Chameleon ATX 6.0, Standards Based IntraNet Solutions, NetManage Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <3.0b16.32.19961028083313.006edcfc@mailhost.hooked.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'd be cautious to use anything that don't dissipate the heat such as a pillow or blanket. John --- On Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:34:46 -0800 jesse montrose wrote: Yes, they're very hot.. I use a thing from silicon sports, it's a hard, thin, laptop pad with a thick wristrest on one end. The whole thing is covered with that wetsuit material they used in their "skintight" laptop cases, and with the TP feet down, it allows enough air to circulate between me and the heat that it's comfortable to use.. I picked it up at a local consumer electronics store (Good Guys) for $20. You might also try using a hardbound book, that's what I used to use.. keeps the heat away from you a lot better than a pillow if you have the feet down.. _____________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.spine.com After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. ---------------End of Original Message----------------- -------------------------------------------------------- Name: John Pham E-mail: John Pham Date: 10/28/96 Time: 11:07:38 -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 14:40:49 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA261921648; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:40:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13971; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:36:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:27:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12778; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:27:04 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12765; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:26:58 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id MAA28577; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:04:11 -0700 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma846529315.028183; Mon Oct 28 12:01:55 1996 Received: (from perley@localhost) by cds9258.Cadence.COM (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA06409; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:01:53 -0800 (PST) From: Don Perley Message-Id: <199610281901.LAA06409@cds9258.Cadence.COM> Subject: Re: 755cx: 16 bit color, heat To: jokim@MIT.EDU (John H. Kim) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:01:53 -0800 (PST) Cc: phr@netcom.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: from "John H. Kim" at Oct 28, 96 01:32:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Paul Rubin wrote: > > I'll say it again. Intel CPUs have a halt instruction built in. > Linux uses it and runs cool on my 701. I hear OS/2 uses it as > well. Windows 95 does not and runs almost unbearably hot. I don't Does windows under OS/2 work ok in this regard? -Don Perley From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 14:48:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA263822115; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:48:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13976; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:36:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:30:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13095; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:30:14 -0500 Received: from kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (math.hawaii.edu [128.171.50.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13038; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:30:02 -0500 Received: from tarski.hawaii.edu (tarski.math.hawaii.edu) by kahuna.math.hawaii.edu (4.1/kahuna-MX-1.4b) id AA02216; Mon, 28 Oct 96 09:29:51 HST Received: by tarski.hawaii.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA20653; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:30:05 -1000 From: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) Message-Id: <199610281930.JAA20653@tarski.hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: TP:"Too Hot for Lap" 755CX Laptop To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 28 Oct 96 9:29:58 HST In-Reply-To: <3.0b16.32.19961028083313.006edcfc@mailhost.hooked.net>; from "jesse montrose" at Oct 28, 96 8:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > The whole thing is covered with that wetsuit material they used in their > "skintight" laptop cases, and with the TP feet down, it allows enough air > to circulate between me and the heat that it's comfortable to use.. You mean neoprene? The material whose raison d'etre is to thermally insulate things? If the bottom of your laptop is in full contact with the stuff, then don't count on cooling air circulation. (I have one of the wetsuit laptop cases, and have to remove my TP701 from it when using it or else the machine shuts down very very quickly from the heat.) For lap use I strongly recommend the laptop desk from Levenger in New York. This is a large, kidney-shaped piece of very thin furniture-grade plywood. It is very lightweight and comfortable, nice to look at, and the hold-down straps are genuinely useful. Moreover - unusual for Levenger - it is reasonably priced (I don't remember the exact price, if there's interest I can look it up). David (ross@math.hawaii.edu) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 14:50:19 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA264032209; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:50:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15866; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:46:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:43:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15127; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:43:53 -0500 Received: from kells.vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15084; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:43:43 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com (lgate.vmedia.com [199.72.13.243]) by kells.vmedia.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id OAA07968 for <@kells.vmedia.com:tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:39:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0623; Mon, 28 Oct 96 15:41:40 -0800 Message-Id: <9610282341.AA0623@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id 929A36BCDD611B75852563D100708A7F; Mon, 28 Oct 96 15:41:38 EDT To: Michael Redmond Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 28 Oct 96 15:30:13 EDT Subject: Re: tp 755cd and 4x cd rom X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu "...The 4X (CD44E) does indeed work in my 755CD. ..." ~~~~~ what o/s are you running? we use 95 here & i'm wondering if it will automatically recognize it, or if i need to d/l the 95 drivers for the 760. Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ ------------------------------- When life hands me lemons, I make lemonade. When life hands me comedy, I send email. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 15:08:24 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA268963268; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:07:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18141; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:59:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:56:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17615; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:56:29 -0500 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17509; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:56:11 -0500 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id NAA15800; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:55:11 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199610281955.NAA15800@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:55:05 -0600 To: Michael Verne/VENTANA From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: tp 755cd and 4x cd rom Cc: tp750 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am using Win95 and it automatically recognized it as a CD44E according to the Device Manager. I didn't need special drivers. I haven't yet tried to install it after a suspend. I assume it will have problems similar to the CD40E (sometimes recognized, sometimes not, sometimes locks the machine). Thanks Mike Redmond ----------- At 03:30 PM 10/28/96 EDT, Michael Verne/VENTANA wrote: >"...The 4X (CD44E) does indeed work in my 755CD. ..." > >~~~~~ > >what o/s are you running? we use 95 here & i'm wondering if it will >automatically recognize it, or if i need to d/l the 95 drivers for the 760. > > >Michael J. Verne >Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group >michael_verne@vmedia.com >http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ >------------------------------- >When life hands me lemons, I make lemonade. >When life hands me comedy, I send email. > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 15:53:55 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA278856025; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:53:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28560; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:49:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:45:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27699; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:45:29 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@[206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27669; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:45:23 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (ssh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA19773 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:45:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199610282045.NAA19773@aspen.wwsi.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: "Constrained", again Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:45:48 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, once again, I can't seem to find a single one of the new Thinkpads. I've now been looking since they day they were announced and have yet to find anyone with one. This is nuts! No wonder their market share is slipping! I really don't want to break out into another brand if I can avoid it, but this is getting simply insane. *sigh* ssh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 16:08:56 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA281196934; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:08:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01176; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:04:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:03:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00959; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:03:04 -0500 Received: from gwa.ericsson.com (gwa.ericsson.com [198.215.127.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00928; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:02:52 -0500 Received: from mr2.exu.ericsson.se (mr2.exu.ericsson.com [138.85.147.12]) by gwa.ericsson.com (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id PAA28489 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:02:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (screamer.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.133.13]) by mr2.exu.ericsson.se (8.7.1/NAHUB-MR1.1) with SMTP id PAA03636 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:02:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from rpc511 (pc8016.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.138.16]) by screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id QAA15470 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:01:45 -0500 Message-Id: <199610282101.QAA15470@screamer.rtp.ericsson.se> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Brett Pantalone" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:03:44 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Need RAM advice Reply-To: pantalone@egertp.ericsson.se Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello, I'm new to this mailing list. I have a ThinkPad 755CE with 540 MB HDD and 8 MB RAM. I am currently running Windows 3.1 but plan to upgrade to 95. I am also going to upgrade my memory, but don't know much about RAM technology. Is one RAM vendor as good as another? Are there any vendors I should avoid? What specifications should I look for? Any advice in this area will be appreciated! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Brett Pantalone Ericsson Mobile Communications pantalone@egertp.ericsson.se Software Development Group From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 16:38:08 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA286938688; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:38:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05849; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:33:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:30:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05474; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:30:37 -0500 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05410; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:30:27 -0500 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA09729; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:30:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from johnppp.lantronix.com (tesu-pc2.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA15080 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:30:12 -0800 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 96 14:32:41 Pacific Standard Time From: John Pham Subject: Re: "Constrained", again To: Steve Hultquist , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Chameleon ATX 6.0, Standards Based IntraNet Solutions, NetManage Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199610282045.NAA19773@aspen.wwsi.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I think this is pretty normal for the highend models across different vendors and they're all guilty of it. There was an article in Information Week published about 3 months ago about this topic. This is the reason why I ended up with this "lemon" 760ELD since I couldn't get a Toshiba Tecra within the time and budget constrain that I had. John Pham --- On Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:45:48 -0700 Steve Hultquist wrote: Well, once again, I can't seem to find a single one of the new Thinkpads. I've now been looking since they day they were announced and have yet to find anyone with one. This is nuts! No wonder their market share is slipping! I really don't want to break out into another brand if I can avoid it, but this is getting simply insane. *sigh* ssh ---------------End of Original Message----------------- -------------------------------------------------------- Name: John Pham E-mail: John Pham Date: 10/28/96 Time: 14:32:42 -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 17:17:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA293971022; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 17:17:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09443; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:54:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:51:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08587; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:51:33 -0500 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08580; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:51:30 -0500 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id PAA22902; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:51:01 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199610282151.PAA22902@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:50:54 -0600 To: jesse montrose , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: TP:"Too Hot for Lap" 755CX Laptop Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I now use a "lapdesk". These are all over the place for really cheap. It is thin piece of hardboard with a melamine top (or plastic) about 1.5' X 1'. Underneath is a cloth pillow filled with styrofoam beads. I actually got mine at a resale place for $1. Probably not so good for airplane trips because it is a bit bulky. Thanks Mike Redmond ---------- At 08:34 AM 10/28/96 -0800, jesse montrose wrote: >Yes, they're very hot.. I use a thing from silicon sports, it's a hard, >thin, laptop pad with a thick wristrest on one end. > >The whole thing is covered with that wetsuit material they used in their >"skintight" laptop cases, and with the TP feet down, it allows enough air >to circulate between me and the heat that it's comfortable to use.. > >I picked it up at a local consumer electronics store (Good Guys) for $20. > >You might also try using a hardbound book, that's what I used to use.. >keeps the heat away from you a lot better than a pillow if you have the >feet down.. > >_____________________________________________________ >jesse montrose http://www.spine.com > After seven years, I was sent home to my family. > Little man, I give the watch to you. > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 18:09:37 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA005484172; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 18:09:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20511; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 18:04:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 17:58:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19533; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 17:58:25 -0500 Received: from PAULWAL.paulwal.mindspring.com (user-168-121-83-49.dialup.mindspring.com [168.121.83.49]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19499; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 17:57:56 -0500 From: Received: by PAULWAL.paulwal.mindspring.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.17/2.12um) id AA0064; Mon, 28 Oct 96 17:57:34 -0500 Message-Id: <9610282257.AA0064@PAULWAL.paulwal.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 96 17:46:04 +0000 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 760CD memory (was: Straight from the Horse's Mouth...) X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <53_134_4_846542764> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > From: "Rick Tait" [snip NT stuff] > Does anyone have a price for a 16MB memory module thingy for a 760c out > there? I need one ASAP! > > .rickt > -- > Rick Tait > I noticed the prices on 760CD memory have dropped recently. I ordered 16MB from a company named CMS at (352) 726-7700. I talked to Rick, who claimed to be the president. He has answered the phone each time I've called, so I have a feeling it's a one-man broker-style operation. At any rate, his price was $154.75 + $12 fedex shipping. I ordered it on Friday, 10/18, and when it hadn't arrived by the following Friday, I called. He said that it was shipped directly from the factory, he was surprised it wasn't there yet, and call again if it wasn't there by this afternoon (10/28). I just called home and Fedex did try to deliver something today. Unfortunately, I'm in Charlotte and home is in Columbia (sigh), so I can't tell you if it works until this coming Friday (big sigh!). ...but I thought the price was pretty good! Paul --------------o------------- paulwal@colum.mindspring.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 19:22:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA017588535; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 19:22:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28092; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 19:19:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 19:15:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27673; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 19:15:10 -0500 Received: from tower.itis.com (tower.itis.com [205.243.195.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27625; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 19:15:00 -0500 Received: from rkarp (msn-7-14.binc.net [205.173.178.126]) by tower.itis.com (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA01755; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 18:13:51 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199610290013.SAA01755@tower.itis.com> From: "Robert J. Karp" To: "Michael Redmond" , "Michael Verne/VENTANA" Cc: "tp750" Subject: Re: tp 755cd and 4x cd rom Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 18:12:45 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu There are no Windows 95 drivers; Windows' generic ATAPI driver recognizes and works fine with the TEAC and Sanyo drives IBM ships for the 760 series. When you put the drive in the machine, Windows will recognize it automatically. ---------- > From: Michael Verne/VENTANA > To: Michael Redmond > Cc: tp750 > Subject: Re: tp 755cd and 4x cd rom > Date: Monday, October 28, 1996 1:30 PM > > "...The 4X (CD44E) does indeed work in my 755CD. ..." > > ~~~~~ > > what o/s are you running? we use 95 here & i'm wondering if it will > automatically recognize it, or if i need to d/l the 95 drivers for the 760. > > > Michael J. Verne > Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group > michael_verne@vmedia.com > http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ > ------------------------------- > When life hands me lemons, I make lemonade. > When life hands me comedy, I send email. > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 19:23:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA017688583; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 19:23:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA28093; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 19:19:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 19:17:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27907; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 19:17:11 -0500 Received: from tower.itis.com (tower.itis.com [205.243.195.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27897; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 19:17:05 -0500 Received: from rkarp (msn-7-14.binc.net [205.173.178.126]) by tower.itis.com (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA01910; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 18:16:38 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199610290016.SAA01910@tower.itis.com> From: "Robert J. Karp" To: , Subject: Re: Need RAM advice Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 18:15:32 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu If you put non-IBM memory into your machine you will void the balance of your 3-year warranty, according to IBM. That alone should be enough to consider Big Blue. I am unfamiliar with your machine type, so do not know what type of memory it takes. Fact is, I found a lower price for IBM-brand memory for my 760EL than for 3rd party memory. That's right. $199 for a 16Mb module. ---------- > From: Brett Pantalone > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Need RAM advice > Date: Monday, October 28, 1996 10:03 AM > > Hello, > > I'm new to this mailing list. I have a ThinkPad 755CE with 540 MB > HDD and 8 MB RAM. I am currently running Windows 3.1 but plan to > upgrade to 95. I am also going to upgrade my memory, but don't know > much about RAM technology. Is one RAM vendor as good as another? Are > there any vendors I should avoid? What specifications should I look > for? Any advice in this area will be appreciated! > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Brett Pantalone Ericsson Mobile Communications > pantalone@egertp.ericsson.se Software Development Group From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 21:47:27 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA037747246; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 21:47:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12272; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 21:45:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 21:40:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11468; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 21:40:38 -0500 Received: from bnl.gov (bnl.gov [130.199.128.163]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11439; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 21:40:24 -0500 Received: from sun2.bnl.gov (sun2.bnl.gov [130.199.54.161]) by bnl.gov (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id VAA20932 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 21:40:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by sun2.bnl.gov (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA12183; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 21:40:07 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 21:40:07 -0500 From: bstewart@sun2.bnl.gov (Bruce Stewart) Message-Id: <199610290240.VAA12183@sun2.bnl.gov> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Linux on 760 Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I just got a 760ED running Win95 and think it's terrific. I also have an extra hard drive for the purpose of running Linux, but although I know Unix fairly well I am having a heap of trouble configuring XFree86. The X that came with my Debian distribution didn't know about the Trident TGUI 9660 video card, so I got XFree86 3.1.2G beta. Now xinit works, but it thinks I have only 640x480, and I can't get it to recognize the mouse. I am poring over the faq and archive of this list, but if anyone out there has faced this and would identify herself to me, I would be deeply grateful. Thanks in advance, -Bruce From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 22:16:38 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA040988995; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:16:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16536; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:14:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:12:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15877; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:11:57 -0500 Received: from bnl.gov (bnl.gov [130.199.128.163]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA15869; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:11:47 -0500 Received: from sun2.bnl.gov (sun2.bnl.gov [130.199.54.161]) by bnl.gov (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id WAA21511; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:11:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by sun2.bnl.gov (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA12583; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:11:39 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:11:39 -0500 From: bstewart@sun2.bnl.gov (Bruce Stewart) Message-Id: <199610290311.WAA12583@sun2.bnl.gov> To: ssh@wwsi.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: "Constrained", again Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu What do you mean by "new ThinkPads"? The P/150, or 2.1GBHD? Have you looked at http://www.computability.com ? I can't say if they have them, but they offer them, and at some pretty nice prices. (I wish I had found this site earlier; I didn't know about it when I bought mine elsewhere.) Regards, -Bruce From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon Oct 28 23:04:18 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA046661856; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 23:04:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23485; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 23:02:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:59:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23034; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:59:17 -0500 Received: from vtaix.cc.vt.edu (adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu [198.82.161.244]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22971; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:59:10 -0500 Received: (from adamf@localhost) by vtaix.cc.vt.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA15396 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:58:52 -0500 From: Adam Finkelstein Message-Id: <199610290358.WAA15396@vtaix.cc.vt.edu> Subject: X config file for 755CS To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edus Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:50:26 +22324924 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199610290240.VAA12183@sun2.bnl.gov> from "Bruce Stewart" at Oct 28, 96 09:40:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Sender: adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Stewart, wrote: > but although I know Unix fairly well I am having a heap of trouble > configuring XFree86. The X that came with my Debian distribution > didn't know about the Trident TGUI 9660 video card, so I got > XFree86 3.1.2G beta. Now xinit works, but it thinks I have > only 640x480, and I can't get it to recognize the mouse. > My sympathies. I am having a similar problem with Red Hat 4.0. Although Metro-X comes with this distribution, and has the config for my chipset (WD90C24), and is supposed to be the X of choice, I cannot get it to see the chipset and sadly my lowly 755CSE looks pretty lousy running X. Anyone have a config file out there for a 755CS* that they'd bounce to me? Thanks Adam -- _________________ Adam Finkelstein adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu http://sunsite.unc.edu/bees/adamf/home.html From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 02:07:12 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA068292831; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 02:07:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06497; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:43:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:39:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06265; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:39:21 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA06259; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:39:17 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (ssh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA21740; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:40:26 -0700 Message-Id: <199610290540.WAA21740@aspen.wwsi.com> To: bstewart@sun2.bnl.gov (Bruce Stewart) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Linux on 760 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 28 Oct 1996 21:40:07 EST." <199610290240.VAA12183@sun2.bnl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:40:26 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >>>>> "Bruce" == Bruce Stewart writes: Bruce> I also have an extra hard drive for the purpose of running Bruce> Linux, but although I know Unix fairly well I am having a heap Bruce> of trouble configuring XFree86. The X that came with my Debian Bruce> distribution didn't know about the Trident TGUI 9660 video card, Bruce> so I got XFree86 3.1.2G beta. Now xinit works, but it thinks I Bruce> have only 640x480, and I can't get it to recognize the mouse. The mouse is a PS/2. You need to tweak your /etc/XF86Config file to have the 800x600 version be the preferred (and define your "monitor" as 800x600, too). Cheers, ssh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 02:12:18 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA068733136; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 02:12:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10586; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 02:10:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 02:07:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10390; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 02:07:17 -0500 Received: from mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.129.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA10383; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 02:07:15 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME ([207.116.0.124]) by mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA14188; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:06:41 +0000 Message-Id: <3275D65F.23AD@worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 02:03:11 -0800 From: Anita Schrodt X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "Robert J. Karp" Cc: pantalone@egertp.ericsson.se, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Need RAM advice References: <199610290016.SAA01910@tower.itis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Argh, I think I hate you. One of those RAM price-drop sob stories -- I paid IBM $600-plus a year ago for an 8M dram card. sigh. . . Robert J. Karp wrote: > > If you put non-IBM memory into your machine you will void the balance of > your 3-year warranty, according to IBM. That alone should be enough to > consider Big Blue. I am unfamiliar with your machine type, so do not know > what type of memory it takes. Fact is, I found a lower price for IBM-brand > memory for my 760EL than for 3rd party memory. That's right. $199 for a > 16Mb module. > > ---------- > > From: Brett Pantalone > > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > > Subject: Need RAM advice > > Date: Monday, October 28, 1996 10:03 AM > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm new to this mailing list. I have a ThinkPad 755CE with 540 MB > > HDD and 8 MB RAM. I am currently running Windows 3.1 but plan to > > upgrade to 95. I am also going to upgrade my memory, but don't know > > much about RAM technology. Is one RAM vendor as good as another? Are > > there any vendors I should avoid? What specifications should I look > > for? Any advice in this area will be appreciated! > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Brett Pantalone Ericsson Mobile Communications > > pantalone@egertp.ericsson.se Software Development Group From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 02:17:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA069213458; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 02:17:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07316; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:57:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:55:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07205; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:55:49 -0500 Received: from mail1.its.rpi.edu (mail1.its.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA07189; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:55:43 -0500 Received: from pluto.solarsystem.org (rts4p10.xyp.rpi.edu [128.113.29.79]) by mail1.its.rpi.edu (8.6.9/8.6.4) with ESMTP id AAA26557 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:55:35 -0500 Received: (from drewvel@localhost) by pluto.solarsystem.org (8.7.6/8.7.3) id AAA05055; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:55:35 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:55:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199610290555.AAA05055@pluto.solarsystem.org> From: Andrew Veliath To: ThinkPad List Subject: Re: Linux on 760 In-Reply-To: <199610290540.WAA21740@aspen.wwsi.com> References: <199610290240.VAA12183@sun2.bnl.gov> <199610290540.WAA21740@aspen.wwsi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.92) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >>>>> R2D2, with all his skill, exclaimed: >>>>> "All kneel at the words of the wonderful Steve Hultquist!" >>>>> "Bruce" == Bruce Stewart writes: Bruce> I also have an extra hard drive for the purpose of running Bruce> Linux, but although I know Unix fairly well I am having a Bruce> heap of trouble configuring XFree86. The X that came with Bruce> my Debian distribution didn't know about the Trident TGUI Bruce> 9660 video card, so I got XFree86 3.1.2G beta. Now xinit Bruce> works, but it thinks I have only 640x480, and I can't get Bruce> it to recognize the mouse. Steve> The mouse is a PS/2. You need to tweak your Steve> /etc/XF86Config file to have the 800x600 version be the Steve> preferred (and define your "monitor" as 800x600, too). I run XFree86 3.1.2G on a 760L with RedHat 4.0 (installed over NFS using an 3Com PCMCIA NIC) and love it. My screen is only 10.4" but I don't mind. All I can say is I wish I had a Linux utility to configure the "features;" as I have a minimum FAT partition for this purpose. Regards, Andrew -- Andrew Veliath http://www.rpi.edu/~veliaa One day, all forms of communication will be superseded by a FAQ. Finger for PGP Public Key Key fingerprint = 51 56 5D 3E 51 43 8B 74 7C B2 E4 B6 84 8E 8B 08 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 03:08:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA075336493; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 03:08:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA13037; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 03:04:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 03:00:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA12714; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 03:00:32 -0500 Received: from emout04.mail.aol.com (emout04.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.95]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA12702; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 03:00:27 -0500 From: Received: by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA07192 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 02:59:11 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 02:59:11 -0500 Message-Id: <961029025910_1846362636@emout04.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP701 screens Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I was wondering if the 701 owners out there perferred the active matrix screen or the dual scan screen? I wear glasses and I was wondering if a dual scan screen would hurt my eyes. Thanks, Gayle From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 04:54:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA085892873; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:54:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA28752; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:53:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:50:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA28533; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:50:20 -0500 Received: from smtp2.interramp.com (smtp2.interramp.com [38.8.200.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA28517; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:50:17 -0500 Received: from cd002046.interramp.com by smtp2.interramp.com (8.8.1/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id EAA07526; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:50:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199610290950.EAA07526@smtp2.interramp.com> From: "Erik Schwer" To: Subject: original delivery Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:50:57 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Was the Thinkpad 755CD originally delivered with the CDROM AND floppy drive or was one of the drives an extra-cost item? Also, I have a 16MB RAM card from Kingston that went in a 755CD, do you know if the card is useful in other laptop models? I've been part of the group for a while and contributed when I had something useful/definitive to say, my thanks in advance to those out there who know. Cheers, Erik Schwer -------------------------------------------------------------------- Did you exchange a walk-on part in the war for a lead-role in a cage? - R.W. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 07:15:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA099881319; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:15:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA19979; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:11:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:05:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA19318; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:05:39 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA19296; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:05:32 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (ssh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id FAA22474; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 05:06:47 -0700 Message-Id: <199610291206.FAA22474@aspen.wwsi.com> To: "Erik Schwer" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: original delivery In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:50:57 EST." <199610290950.EAA07526@smtp2.interramp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 05:06:46 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >>>>> "Erik" == Erik Schwer writes: Erik> Was the Thinkpad 755CD originally delivered with the CDROM AND Erik> floppy drive or was one of the drives an extra-cost item? Both came in the box. Erik> Also, I have a 16MB RAM card from Kingston that went in a 755CD, Erik> do you know if the card is useful in other laptop models? Should work in any of them with the PC Card-style holder. This is all the 75x series. I haven't actually looked at the 760 options, but know they do take a different approach. Cheers, ssh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 09:42:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA116280120; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:42:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06552; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:36:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:32:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05938; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:32:56 -0500 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA05888; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:32:50 -0500 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id IAA01239; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:32:31 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199610291432.IAA01239@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:32:26 -0600 To: Steve Hultquist , "Erik Schwer" From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: original delivery (and 755CD memory) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have heard "rumors" that the 755CD Pentium version takes different memory than the 755CD 486/100 version. I purchased a 32M module for my 755CD 486 version for less than $300. It works so I'm happy. Whenever you buy memory, make sure that the vendor knows the exact model number. Then make sure they can assure the memory will work in that model. I assume the Kingston card would work in just about any 755ce or cse. I will also probably work in older 755c's. It may or may not work in the 755cx. Same for older 750's. I think 760's use "EDO" memory, so I doubt that your module would work in the 760's. Good luck. Thanks Mike Redmond ------------ At 05:06 AM 10/29/96 -0700, Steve Hultquist wrote: >>>>>> "Erik" == Erik Schwer writes: > > Erik> Was the Thinkpad 755CD originally delivered with the CDROM AND > Erik> floppy drive or was one of the drives an extra-cost item? > >Both came in the box. > > Erik> Also, I have a 16MB RAM card from Kingston that went in a 755CD, > Erik> do you know if the card is useful in other laptop models? > >Should work in any of them with the PC Card-style holder. This is all >the 75x series. I haven't actually looked at the 760 options, but know >they do take a different approach. > >Cheers, >ssh > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 09:49:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA117460560; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:49:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08423; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:46:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:45:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08114; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:45:04 -0500 Received: from lugs.org.sg (ts700-702.singnet.com.sg [165.21.110.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08072; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:44:57 -0500 Received: from lugs.org.sg (uucp@localhost) by lugs.org.sg (8.7.1/8.7.3) with UUCP id VAA26136; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 21:20:12 +0800 Received: by lugs.org.sg (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0vIEN8-0002ByC; Tue, 29 Oct 96 21:38 SST Received: from localhost (elvintan@localhost) by dupre.lugs.org.sg (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA01502; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 21:17:52 +0800 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 21:17:52 +0800 (SGT) From: Elvin To: User754527@aol.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP701 screens In-Reply-To: <961029025910_1846362636@emout04.mail.aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Hi, I was wondering if the 701 owners out there perferred the active matrix > screen or the dual scan screen? I wear glasses and I was wondering if a dual > scan screen would hurt my eyes. All I can say is (as a owner of a TP701C TFT) U gotta have a double barrel shotgun to make me change it for a dual-scan.. Even with that, U gotta throw in $2000 ! :) Elvin -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Visit NuKeM at http://home.pacific.net.sg/~alf/nukem.htm | | or the US Mirror at http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/park/9868 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 09:54:25 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA118700863; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:54:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09479; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:52:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:50:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09228; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:50:33 -0500 Received: from tribune.concentric.net (tribune.concentric.net [199.3.12.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09178; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:50:26 -0500 Received: from cliff.cris.com (cliff.cris.com [199.3.12.45]) by tribune.concentric.net (8.7.5/(96/10/25 1.9)) id JAA22279; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:50:09 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from portege3400 (cnc019068.concentric.net [206.173.35.68]) by cliff.cris.com (8.8.0) id JAA05390; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:50:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199610291450.JAA05390@cliff.cris.com> From: "Steven S. Tauber" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: ThinkPad: 701 suspend problems Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:49:48 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello everyone. I'm new to this list and have a question for the experts. My wife's 701 has recently been having problems with suspend and hibernate. It occasionally suspends but will not hibernate or will hibernate without first suspending. She is using Win95 (with the latest BIOS flashed) and had been having no problems for about six months with this configuration until recently. She isn't aware of anything occuring that might have caused this problem. I've tried about everything I can think of (scandisk, delete .hib file and reset bios, etc.) with no success. My questions are: 1) has anyone else been having this problem? and 2) is it likely that this is a hardware or a software problem. I am reluctant to reformat the hard drive to rule out software conflicts, but I've run out of possible solutions. Thanks for any advice! Steve Tauber From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 11:13:06 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA133125585; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:13:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22629; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:10:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:06:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21997; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:06:29 -0500 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21983; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:06:23 -0500 Received: from ppp-jesse (fish-16.ppp.hooked.net [206.80.10.16]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA28668 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:06:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0b16.32.19961029075238.0072fffc@mailhost.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b16 (32) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:06:17 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: jesse montrose Subject: Re: TP:"Too Hot for Lap" 755CX Laptop Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 03:50 PM 10/28/96 -0600, Michael Redmond wrote: >I now use a "lapdesk". These are all over the place for really cheap. It is >thin piece of hardboard with a melamine top (or plastic) about 1.5' X 1'. >Underneath is a cloth pillow filled with styrofoam beads. I actually got >mine at a resale place for $1. Probably not so good for airplane trips >because it is a bit bulky. I like those too.. The pad I mentioned is light and thin enough that I've taken it with me several times, even stuck it in my laptop bag with the wristwrest sticking out :) _____________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.spine.com After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 11:25:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA135696339; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:25:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24745; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:22:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:20:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24418; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:20:47 -0500 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24374; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:20:41 -0500 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id LAA23621; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:23:22 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:23:22 -0500 (EST) From: Christian Carey To: User754527@aol.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP701 screens In-Reply-To: <961029025910_1846362636@emout04.mail.aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tuesday, 29th October 1996, User754527@aol.com wrote: > I was wondering if the 701 owners out there perferred the active matrix > screen or the dual scan screen? Active matrix, no doubt about it. > I wear glasses and I was wondering if a dual scan screen would hurt my > eyes. I wear glasses also, and for me, the dual scan doesn't hurt, but the screen details seem less well-defined, and the contrast isn't as vivid. Christian. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 11:38:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA137857093; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:38:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26744; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:33:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:30:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25994; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:30:23 -0500 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25980; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:30:19 -0500 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id LAA26314; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:33:31 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:33:31 -0500 (EST) From: Christian Carey To: "Steven S. Tauber" Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: ThinkPad: 701 suspend problems In-Reply-To: <199610291450.JAA05390@cliff.cris.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tuesday, 29th October 1996, Steven S. Tauber wrote: > My wife's 701 has recently been having problems with suspend and hibernate. > It occasionally suspends but will not hibernate or will hibernate without > first suspending. She is using Win95 (with the latest BIOS flashed) and > had been having no problems for about six months with this configuration > until recently. She isn't aware of anything occuring that might have > caused this problem. Does it occur only when it's on battery power, or when it's plugged in as well? Is the BIOS set up for automatic or manual hibernation/suspension? Perhaps you've recently added RAM without correspondingly increasing the size of the hibernation file? > 1) has anyone else been having this problem? I haven't, so far, but I'm not running Windows 95. > 2) is it likely that this is a hardware or a software problem. Insufficient data, so far. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 11:38:29 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA137907105; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:38:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27141; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:35:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:31:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26286; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:31:55 -0500 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26164; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:31:33 -0500 Received: from ppp-jesse (fish-16.ppp.hooked.net [206.80.10.16]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA02999; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:29:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0b16.32.19961029082440.006dbda8@mailhost.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b16 (32) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:29:42 -0800 To: ross@math.hawaii.edu (David Ross) From: jesse montrose Subject: Re: TP:"Too Hot for Lap" 755CX Laptop Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 09:29 AM 10/28/96 HST, David Ross wrote: >You mean neoprene? The material whose raison d'etre is to thermally >insulate things? Yeah, that's the stuff. >If the bottom of your laptop is in full contact with >the stuff, then don't count on cooling air circulation. It isn't. I always have the feet extended. >(I have one of >the wetsuit laptop cases, and have to remove my TP701 from it when using >it or else the machine shuts down very very quickly from the heat.) Hey, that's interesting, I was considering a wetsuit case and that hadn't occurred to me, I was planning to use it inside the case.. _____________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.spine.com After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 11:41:24 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA138827276; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:41:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26742; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:33:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:30:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25948; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:30:10 -0500 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25902; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:30:00 -0500 Received: from ppp-jesse (fish-16.ppp.hooked.net [206.80.10.16]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA02990; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:29:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0b16.32.19961029082059.006dbda8@mailhost.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b16 (32) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:29:40 -0800 To: John Pham From: jesse montrose Subject: Re: TP:"Too Hot for Lap" 755CX Laptop Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 11:07 AM 10/28/96 Time, John Pham wrote: >I'd be cautious to use anything that don't dissipate the heat such as a >pillow or blanket. I don't understand, do you mean when you use your thinkpad at an office, you bring a pillow with you instead of putting it on a desk? :) I leave my TP on all the time, on some kind of hard surface, with the feet extended, and the heat is reasonable. The few times I've left it sitting on a blanket or carpet for a long time the heat is amazingly higher.. _____________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.spine.com After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 11:56:48 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA141228205; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:56:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01402; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:54:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:51:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00775; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:51:13 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00749; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:51:03 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id LAA18347; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:45:31 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:45:31 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: User754527@aol.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP701 screens In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tuesday, 29th October 1996, User754527@aol.com wrote: > I was wondering if the 701 owners out there perferred the active matrix > screen or the dual scan screen? In all fairness, I should point out that if you put the 701 active matrix side by side with a 755 active matrix, the 701 looks like a dual scan. The 701's display is dimmer, I don't know why. I can't complain about the speed though - no ghosting. -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 11:58:35 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA141448311; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:58:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01418; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:54:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:52:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00991; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:51:58 -0500 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00933; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:51:43 -0500 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA14149; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:51:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from johnppp.lantronix.com (tesu-pc2.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA21012 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:51:32 -0800 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 08:49:38 Pacific Standard Time From: John Pham Subject: Re: TP:"Too Hot for Lap" 755CX Laptop To: jesse montrose , John Pham Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Chameleon ATX 6.0, Standards Based IntraNet Solutions, NetManage Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <3.0b16.32.19961029082059.006dbda8@mailhost.hooked.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hey, hey, hey, Are you a politician, a political reporter or what? ;-) What I said was in response to someone who tried to use a pillow with his thinkpad since it was too hot for him. My 760ELD does not like to sit on anything else except on a horizontally leveled desk, but if putting a pillow beneath helping it from locking up, I'll definitely give it some thoughts.:-) When I travel with this machine, it oftens turn into a very expensive CD player since the keyboard and mouse always locked up if the machine is moved around and make me "THINK" about dropping it out of the plane. John Pham --- On Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:29:40 -0800 jesse montrose wrote: At 11:07 AM 10/28/96 Time, John Pham wrote: >I'd be cautious to use anything that don't dissipate the heat such as a >pillow or blanket. I don't understand, do you mean when you use your thinkpad at an office, you bring a pillow with you instead of putting it on a desk? :) I leave my TP on all the time, on some kind of hard surface, with the feet extended, and the heat is reasonable. The few times I've left it sitting on a blanket or carpet for a long time the heat is amazingly higher.. _____________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.spine.com After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. ---------------End of Original Message----------------- -------------------------------------------------------- Name: John Pham E-mail: John Pham Date: 10/29/96 Time: 08:49:39 -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 12:14:00 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA144649239; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:13:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04598; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:08:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:06:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04053; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:06:17 -0500 Received: from gauss.elee.calpoly.edu (root@gauss.elee.calpoly.edu [129.65.26.111]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04018; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:06:11 -0500 From: Received: from [128.115.186.237] (fukatsu-mac.llnl.gov [128.115.186.237]) by gauss.elee.calpoly.edu (8.6.12/ELEE) with SMTP id JAA01224 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:05:57 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:06:09 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: original delivery (and 755CD memory) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It's true, the pentium 755CD uses non-parity memory while the 486/100 uses parity. They use the same form factor. I have a pentium model and ordered a 32 Meg non-parity module. There was a problem with it so they shipped me a module for the 486 (with parity) Turns out that you can use a parity module in either model, the pentium model will just ignore the extra parity bits. Doesn't work the other way though.... -Mike >I have heard "rumors" that the 755CD Pentium version takes different memory >than the 755CD 486/100 version. I purchased a 32M module for my 755CD 486 >version for less than $300. It works so I'm happy. > >Whenever you buy memory, make sure that the vendor knows the exact model >number. Then make sure they can assure the memory will work in that model. I >assume the Kingston card would work in just about any 755ce or cse. I will >also probably work in older 755c's. It may or may not work in the 755cx. >Same for older 750's. I think 760's use "EDO" memory, so I doubt that your >module would work in the 760's. > >Good luck. >Thanks >Mike Redmond >------------ >At 05:06 AM 10/29/96 -0700, Steve Hultquist wrote: >>>>>>> "Erik" == Erik Schwer writes: >> >> Erik> Was the Thinkpad 755CD originally delivered with the CDROM AND >> Erik> floppy drive or was one of the drives an extra-cost item? >> >>Both came in the box. >> >> Erik> Also, I have a 16MB RAM card from Kingston that went in a 755CD, >> Erik> do you know if the card is useful in other laptop models? >> >>Should work in any of them with the PC Card-style holder. This is all >>the 75x series. I haven't actually looked at the 760 options, but know >>they do take a different approach. >> >>Cheers, >>ssh >> >> From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 12:16:06 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA145109364; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:16:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04939; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:10:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:07:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04408; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:07:47 -0500 Received: from lugs.org.sg (ts700-702.singnet.com.sg [165.21.110.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04321; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:07:31 -0500 Received: from lugs.org.sg (uucp@localhost) by lugs.org.sg (8.7.1/8.7.3) with UUCP id AAA27204; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 00:36:27 +0800 Received: by lugs.org.sg (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0vIHIP-0002BzC; Wed, 30 Oct 96 00:45 SST Received: from localhost (elvintan@localhost) by dupre.lugs.org.sg (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA00223; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 00:28:11 +0800 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 00:28:11 +0800 (SGT) From: Elvin To: Maddog Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP701 screens In-Reply-To: <13BF5A50212@ee.twsu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > > All I can say is (as a owner of a TP701C TFT) U gotta have a > > double barrel shotgun to make me change it for a dual-scan.. Even with > > that, U gotta throw in $2000 ! :) > I owned a 701C for about 8 months now. I tell ya the TFT is great. I > like it a lot. I think it's worth throwing in $2000 for a better display! I know.. tat was wat i was saying..... I am NOT going to change this beautiful notebook of mine... hehe... It's the BeSt notebook in my humble opinion... But come to think of it, my system has a problem.. the screen (LCD only) flickers sometimes.... does anyone get this problem ? It looks like the LCD is loosing horizontal or vertical sync... (do LCDs have sync?) I sent it to IBM, but they said they could not figure wat's wrong... (The problem happens once every 1-2 hours.... and the tech. was too lazy to wait...rrrr.r....) Elvin -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Visit NuKeM at http://home.pacific.net.sg/~alf/nukem.htm | | or the US Mirror at http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/park/9868 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 12:58:37 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA158971903; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:58:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11878; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:55:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:51:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11464; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:51:00 -0500 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11421; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:50:47 -0500 Received: from ppp-jesse (fish-16.ppp.hooked.net [206.80.10.16]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA22242 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:50:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0b16.32.19961029094949.00766218@mailhost.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b16 (32) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:50:36 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: jesse montrose Subject: Re: TP:"Too Hot for Lap" 755CX Laptop Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu At 08:49 AM 10/29/96 Time, John Pham wrote: >Hey, hey, hey, >Are you a politician, a political reporter or what? ;-) Me? I don't even vote :) >What I said was in response to someone who tried to use a pillow with his >thinkpad since it was too hot for him. My apologies, I *completely* misread you.. perhaps I *should* look into some kind of peripheral political career.. >My 760ELD does not like to sit on anything else except on a horizontally >leveled desk, but if putting a pillow beneath helping it from locking up, >I'll definitely give it some thoughts.:-) > >When I travel with this machine, it oftens turn into a very expensive CD >player since the keyboard and mouse always locked up if the machine is >moved around and make me "THINK" about dropping it out of the plane. Ugh, it's that bad? Is it the model? Or do you just have a lemon? _____________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.spine.com After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 12:59:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA159301980; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:59:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12047; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:55:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:52:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11632; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:52:33 -0500 Received: from kells.vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11613; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:52:26 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com (lgate.vmedia.com [199.72.13.243]) by kells.vmedia.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id MAA16741 for <@kells.vmedia.com:tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:49:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0206; Tue, 29 Oct 96 12:51:05 -0800 Message-Id: <9610292051.AA0206@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id 64DB364C78B17DD4852563D200676A29; Tue, 29 Oct 96 12:51:02 EDT To: mfukatsu Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 29 Oct 96 13:51:56 EDT Subject: Re: original delivery (and 755CD memory) X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu "...It's true, the pentium 755CD uses non-parity memory while the 486/100 uses parity...." ~~~~~ are you sure about this? i've always put non parity dram cards in the dx4/100 755cd's we use. i just go into ezsetup and disable parity checking. never had any problems with it. Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ ------------------------------- When life hands me lemons, I make lemonade. When life hands me comedy, I send email. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 15:33:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA191931193; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:33:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24962; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:26:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:14:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23194; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:14:41 -0500 Received: from tribune.concentric.net (tribune.concentric.net [199.3.12.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23178; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:14:35 -0500 Received: from cliff.cris.com (cliff.cris.com [199.3.12.45]) by tribune.concentric.net (8.7.5/(96/10/25 1.9)) id PAA06212; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:11:55 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from portege3400 (cnc019101.concentric.net [206.173.35.101]) by cliff.cris.com (8.8.0) id PAA21141; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:09:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199610292009.PAA21141@cliff.cris.com> From: "Steven S. Tauber" To: "Christian Carey" Cc: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: Re: ThinkPad: 701 suspend problems Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:08:12 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > Does it occur only when it's on battery power, or when it's plugged in as > well? Is the BIOS set up for automatic or manual hibernation/suspension? > Perhaps you've recently added RAM without correspondingly increasing the > size of the hibernation file? > Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 > Happens on both battery power and AC. BIOS is set for automatic hibernation/suspend. No recent additions (or deletions) on the hardware side (hibernation file size is correctly configured as RAM +1). Remember, I indicated that the problem was sporadic (although it mostly DOESN'T work -- just hangs). Steve Tauber From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 16:07:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA197543223; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:07:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00694; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:00:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:57:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29955; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:57:48 -0500 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29948; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:57:42 -0500 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id QAA14747; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:00:49 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:00:48 -0500 (EST) From: Christian Carey To: "Steven S. Tauber" Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: ThinkPad: 701 suspend problems In-Reply-To: <199610292009.PAA21141@cliff.cris.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Tuesday, 29th October 1996, Steven S. Tauber wrote: > BIOS is set for automatic hibernation/suspend. Does the manual hibernation/suspend work OK when the BIOS is set to Manual? > Remember, I indicated that the problem was sporadic (although it mostly > DOESN'T work -- just hangs). When you do a DIR in a DOS prompt box of the hibernation file, is the filename all in uppercase (like DOS) or does it have some lowercase characters (like a Windows 95 filename)? If it's the latter, perhaps there's a problem in writing to the Windows 95 filename? Christian. -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 17:48:49 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA214029326; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:48:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13689; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:13:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:08:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13133; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:08:14 -0500 Received: from home.dwave.net (whizkid@home.dwave.net [207.0.68.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13116; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:08:02 -0500 Received: (from whizkid@localhost) by home.dwave.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA27683; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:07:35 -0600 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:07:35 -0600 (CST) From: Chris Schumann To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Win95 Weirdness and Suspend Reply Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu To whomever can't get Suspend on their start menu, it's in a Control Panel. Probably the Power control panel. (Man, I always get the weirdest problems. Maybe because the easy ones get solved right away.) I've recently upgraded(?) to Win95. At some point, when in a DOS window, if I enlarge it to full-screen with alt-enter (that is, make it text and not a "window" on the Windows screen), I can no longer switch to another app. with alt-tab nor can I switch it back to a window (with alt-enter). I just get beeped at when I try. I've just recently re-installed Win95 again (because my PC card modem wasn't recognized as such), so I'd like to avoid that if at all possible. I *SUPPOSE* I could try my free introductory tech. support with Microsoft. Does anyone have experience dealing with them? Chris From owner-thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Oct 29 17:56:12 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA214959770; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:56:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12583; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:00:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:58:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12250; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:58:02 -0500 Received: from Tennis.Opus1.COM (Tennis.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12239; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:57:54 -0500 Received: from Opus1.COM by Opus1.COM (PMDF V5.1-4 #9830) id <01IB7MTFPTAOANBFBY@Opus1.COM> for thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:56:43 MST Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:51:20 -0700 (MST) From: billy@MIX.COM Subject: Re: original delivery (and 755CD memory) In-Reply-To: "Message dated Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:06:09 -0800" Sender: Billy@MIX.COM To: thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01IB7O2YETJOANBFBY@Opus1.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > It's true, the pentium 755CD uses non-parity memory while the 486/100 uses > parity. They use the same form factor. I have a pentium model and ordered > a 32 Meg non-parity module. There was a problem with it so they shipped me > a module for the 486 (with parity) Turns out that you can use a parity > module in either model, the pentium model will just ignore the extra parity > bits. Doesn't work the other way though.... Parity error detection can be turned off but I don't think that's a good idea - the first memory upgrade I did was no good and I don't think I'd have found out without it. It passed IBM's diagnostics but I could reproducably make it fail by caching pages with Mosaic in a certain sequence. Billy Y.. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 19:36:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA230815769; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 19:36:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27633; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 19:32:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 19:28:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27297; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 19:28:07 -0500 Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27291; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 19:28:03 -0500 Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.7.5/BZS-8-1.0) id TAA21572; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 19:27:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA04039; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 19:27:50 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 19:27:50 -0500 (EST) From: Rod Owen To: "Steven S. Tauber" Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Re: ThinkPad: 701 suspend problems In-Reply-To: <199610291450.JAA05390@cliff.cris.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I took mine to Wichita, Kansas once, and the modem stopped dropping the line after the first 6-1/2 minutes. - Rod On Tue, 29 Oct 1996, Steven S. Tauber wrote: > Hello everyone. I'm new to this list and have a question for the experts. > My wife's 701 has recently been having problems with suspend and hibernate. > It occasionally suspends but will not hibernate or will hibernate without > first suspending. She is using Win95 (with the latest BIOS flashed) and > had been having no problems for about six months with this configuration > until recently. She isn't aware of anything occuring that might have > caused this problem. I've tried about everything I can think of (scandisk, > delete .hib file and reset bios, etc.) with no success. My questions are: > 1) has anyone else been having this problem? and 2) is it likely that this > is a hardware or a software problem. I am reluctant to reformat the hard > drive to rule out software conflicts, but I've run out of possible > solutions. Thanks for any advice! > Steve Tauber > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue Oct 29 22:37:18 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA253366635; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 22:37:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20179; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 22:34:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 22:29:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19283; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 22:29:44 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19276; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 22:29:40 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (ssh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA24700 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 20:30:59 -0700 Message-Id: <199610300330.UAA24700@aspen.wwsi.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Got a couple XGA models coming! Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 20:30:59 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu FWIW, DataVision responded to e-mail by phone this morning, told me they had two of the new 760Es (150MHz and XGA) in stock... They shipped to me today. I must admit to being impressed by the response to the e-mail, and their willingness to keep pushing it today to make sure that it shipped (two of these things with an additional 32MB module each means a huge charge on one of my cards; they rode it until it went all the way through the credit process). Of course, YMMV... ssh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 30 07:11:52 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA016697511; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 07:11:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23498; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 07:10:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 07:06:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23217; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 07:06:29 -0500 Received: from albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu [128.52.46.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23210; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 07:06:26 -0500 Received: from thinkpad by albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12GNU) with SMTP id HAA28236 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 07:06:26 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961030120911.010cd97c@gnu.ai.mit.edu> X-Sender: rickt@gnu.ai.mit.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 06:09:11 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Rick Tait Subject: New Mwave on NT4.0 (memory usage) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Well, since I couldn't get 16-bit colour going on my 755cx, I decided to bite the bullet and install it on my TP760c. Went very smoothly - installed the Trident Video Accelerator gfx drivers, and to my surprise, it has the option to go for 32000 colours! This is excellent news, as it gives me enough colours to do decent web graphics, without the nasty CPU overhead of 64000 colours! It works great! Anyhow, back to the Subject in hand. After a fresh install of NT, the base memory footprint was around 18-20MB. Guess what? After installing the new version of Mwave, and having both sound and modem enabled, that memory footpring went up to 29MB! And if you then factor in the RAS services that fire up when I initiate a DUN connection, that goes up to 31-32MB. Can you believe the Mwave drivers take up 9MB+??? Needless to say, I turned off all those services and am using my Megahertz 28.8 PCMCIA modem card... I can't afford to loose 10MB for Mwave! ARGH! .rickt From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 30 08:20:32 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA024321630; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:20:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01260; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:19:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:15:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00667; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:15:41 -0500 Received: from venus.teamquest.com (venus.teamquest.com [199.120.249.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00599; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:15:33 -0500 From: Received: from SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com (smtpgtwy.teamquest.com [199.120.249.99]) by venus.teamquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA23924 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:15:28 GMT Received: from cc:Mail by SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com id AA846688525; Wed, 30 Oct 96 07:13:47 CST Date: Wed, 30 Oct 96 07:13:47 CST Encoding: 32 Text Message-Id: <9609308466.AA846688525@SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com> Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 760ELD suspend/hang problem. Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Not sure if this is related in some way to the 701 suspend problem listed earlier, but I have a suspend/hang problem an a 760ELD with Win95 on it. It hangs upon returning to Windows after suspending, but only when I don't wait until all hard drive activity stops. In other words, if I start using the mouse or keyboard before it finishes un-suspending, it hangs. Any similar experiences out there? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: ThinkPad: 701 suspend problems Author: "Steven S. Tauber" at Gateway Date: 10/29/96 2:32 PM > Does it occur only when it's on battery power, or when it's plugged in as > well? Is the BIOS set up for automatic or manual hibernation/suspension? > Perhaps you've recently added RAM without correspondingly increasing the > size of the hibernation file? > Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 > Happens on both battery power and AC. BIOS is set for automatic hibernation/suspend. No recent additions (or deletions) on the hardware side (hibernation file size is correctly configured as RAM +1). Remember, I indicated that the problem was sporadic (although it mostly DOESN'T work -- just hangs). Steve Tauber From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 30 11:05:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA045991512; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:05:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26378; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:00:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:58:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25890; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:58:37 -0500 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25855; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:58:29 -0500 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id LAA10478; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:01:33 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:01:32 -0500 (EST) From: Christian Carey To: "B. Sabini" Cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: TP701 Screens washed out. In-Reply-To: <32782EBB.4E7E@rad.net.id> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Wednesday, 30th October 1996, B. Sabini wrote: > While on the subject of 701's screen. I have been noticing that whenever > I connected to Multiport II, the screen got washed out. > Color seemed becoming 4 bit and the screens got very bright > But after disconnect the Multiport II and reboot it went back to normal. > Any idea. Which OS are you using when this happens? -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 30 11:31:52 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA051333111; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:31:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01647; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:27:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:23:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00602; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:23:27 -0500 Received: from tribune.concentric.net (tribune.concentric.net [199.3.12.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00596; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:23:23 -0500 Received: from cliff.cris.com (cliff.cris.com [199.3.12.45]) by tribune.concentric.net (8.7.5/(96/10/25 1.9)) id LAA28764; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:23:08 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from portege3400 (cnc019060.concentric.net [206.173.35.60]) by cliff.cris.com (8.8.0) id LAA24353; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:14:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199610301614.LAA24353@cliff.cris.com> From: "Steven S. Tauber" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: Re: ThinkPad: 701 suspend problems Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:14:32 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I think I've traced the problematic suspend/hibernate to a Windows 95 software incompatibility. I'm still not sure what is causing the problem, but the suspend/hibernate features work fine when in DOS mode (rather than Win95). Anyway, thanks for all of the responses. In large part because noone reported similar problems related to a hardware failure, I became convinced that the situation was due to software. Steve Tauber From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 30 11:54:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA054544475; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:54:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05463; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:51:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:47:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04752; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:47:50 -0500 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04740; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:47:43 -0500 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA16723; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:46:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from johnppp.lantronix.com (tesu-pc2.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA00784 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:46:08 -0800 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 96 08:53:26 Pacific Standard Time From: John Pham Subject: Re: 760ELD suspend/hang problem. To: emr@teamquest.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Chameleon ATX 6.0, Standards Based IntraNet Solutions, NetManage Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <9609308466.AA846688525@SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu My 760ELD does the same thing and I have to reset it via the reset button on the back of the unit. Usually, I'd have to switched it off and on about 3 times to get the screen to come up. Wonderful IBM's technology... John Pham --- On Wed, 30 Oct 96 07:13:47 CST emr@teamquest.com wrote: Not sure if this is related in some way to the 701 suspend problem listed earlier, but I have a suspend/hang problem an a 760ELD with Win95 on it. It hangs upon returning to Windows after suspending, but only when I don't wait until all hard drive activity stops. In other words, if I start using the mouse or keyboard before it finishes un-suspending, it hangs. Any similar experiences out there? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: ThinkPad: 701 suspend problems Author: "Steven S. Tauber" at Gateway Date: 10/29/96 2:32 PM > Does it occur only when it's on battery power, or when it's plugged in as > well? Is the BIOS set up for automatic or manual hibernation/suspension? > Perhaps you've recently added RAM without correspondingly increasing the > size of the hibernation file? > Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 > Happens on both battery power and AC. BIOS is set for automatic hibernation/suspend. No recent additions (or deletions) on the hardware side (hibernation file size is correctly configured as RAM +1). Remember, I indicated that the problem was sporadic (although it mostly DOESN'T work -- just hangs). Steve Tauber ---------------End of Original Message----------------- -------------------------------------------------------- Name: John Pham E-mail: John Pham Date: 10/30/96 Time: 08:53:27 -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 30 12:28:38 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA059486499; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:28:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11085; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:26:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:24:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10712; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:24:07 -0500 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10689; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:23:58 -0500 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA19133; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 09:23:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from johnppp.lantronix.com (tesu-pc2.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA05888 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 09:23:45 -0800 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 96 09:25:15 Pacific Standard Time From: John Pham Subject: Re: TP:"Too Hot for Lap" 755CX Laptop To: jesse montrose , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Chameleon ATX 6.0, Standards Based IntraNet Solutions, NetManage Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <3.0b16.32.19961029094949.00766218@mailhost.hooked.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I'm glad that there are humors in many of us. Even if Clinton get re-elected, I think he'll be looking for fresh blood with the attrition rate he's having with his people. I had 2 760ELDs the last 6 months and they both are defectived so they can be classified as "lemons". Happy computing ;-) John Pham --- On Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:50:36 -0800 jesse montrose wrote: At 08:49 AM 10/29/96 Time, John Pham wrote: >Hey, hey, hey, >Are you a politician, a political reporter or what? ;-) Me? I don't even vote :) >What I said was in response to someone who tried to use a pillow with his >thinkpad since it was too hot for him. My apologies, I *completely* misread you.. perhaps I *should* look into some kind of peripheral political career.. >My 760ELD does not like to sit on anything else except on a horizontally >leveled desk, but if putting a pillow beneath helping it from locking up, >I'll definitely give it some thoughts.:-) > >When I travel with this machine, it oftens turn into a very expensive CD >player since the keyboard and mouse always locked up if the machine is >moved around and make me "THINK" about dropping it out of the plane. Ugh, it's that bad? Is it the model? Or do you just have a lemon? _____________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.spine.com After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. ---------------End of Original Message----------------- -------------------------------------------------------- Name: John Pham E-mail: John Pham Date: 10/30/96 Time: 09:25:17 -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 30 12:52:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA062857950; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:52:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13604; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:50:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:46:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13349; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:46:19 -0500 Received: from merle.acns.nwu.edu (merle.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13337; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:46:02 -0500 Received: from [129.105.76.29] by merle.acns.nwu.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA003677470; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:44:30 -0600 X-Sender: bberry@merle.acns.nwu.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:44:28 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Berry Subject: How to discarge batter with fuel? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, So, in my previous message I asked if the ThinkPads battery could be discharged with a utility like the PowerBooks. I was told that I could using the fuel utility included with the ThinkPad. "Aha" I said, and dutifully read the flippin' manual. Of course the manual covers way to keep your battery healthy and suggests that you do occasionally discharge the battery completely with the fuel utility to reduce battery memory problems. ....BUT IT DOESN'T SAY HOW TO DO IT! (hee hee! I just love the computer industry, don't you?) Does anybody here know how to completely discharge the battery with the utility? ******************************************************************************** Bill Berry Program Assistant Records Department Office of Undergraduate Admission 1801 Hinman Avenue Evanston, IL 60208 Phone: 847-467-1918 Email: w-berry@nwu.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 30 13:46:35 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA075061186; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:46:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18127; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:44:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:42:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17885; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:42:33 -0500 Received: from fw1.eiws.esid.northgrum.com ([153.113.2.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17858; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:42:24 -0500 Received: from mail-relay.eiws.esid.northgrum.com by fw1.eiws.esid.northgrum.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0vIfYy-00031TC; Wed, 30 Oct 96 12:40 CST Received: from astpc35.eiws.esid.northgrum.com by mail-relay.eiws.esid.northgrum.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0vIfW3-0008EfC; Wed, 30 Oct 96 12:37 CST Message-Id: From: "Scott A. Stratmoen" To: "Bill Berry" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Wed, 30 Oct 96 12:39:13 +0600 Reply-To: "Scott A. Stratmoen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Scott Stratmoen's Registered PMMail 1.53 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How to discarge batter with fuel? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu All Thinkpad models do not support this feature. If your model support discharge there will be three buttons on the fuel util. Otherwise just leave the unit on, with the charger disconnected, until the unit suspends. Then recharge the unit fully. There is nothing special about the discharge feature. On Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:44:28 -0600, Bill Berry wrote: >Hi, > >So, in my previous message I asked if the ThinkPads battery could be >discharged with a utility like the PowerBooks. I was told that I could >using the fuel utility included with the ThinkPad. "Aha" I said, and >dutifully read the flippin' manual. Of course the manual covers way to keep >your battery healthy and suggests that you do occasionally discharge the >battery completely with the fuel utility to reduce battery memory problems. > >....BUT IT DOESN'T SAY HOW TO DO IT! > >(hee hee! I just love the computer industry, don't you?) > >Does anybody here know how to completely discharge the battery with the >utility? > > > > >******************************************************************************** > >Bill Berry >Program Assistant >Records Department > >Office of Undergraduate Admission >1801 Hinman Avenue >Evanston, IL 60208 > >Phone: 847-467-1918 >Email: w-berry@nwu.edu > > > ____ Scott A. Stratmoen 847-259-9600 ex 4762 strat@eiws.esid.northgrum.com sstratmoen@radiomail.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 30 13:52:00 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA076041519; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:51:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18769; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:50:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:48:17 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18500; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:48:13 -0500 Received: from venus.teamquest.com (venus.teamquest.com [199.120.249.7]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18372; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:46:21 -0500 From: Received: from SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com (smtpgtwy.teamquest.com [199.120.249.99]) by venus.teamquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA27970 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:45:28 GMT Received: from cc:Mail by SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com id AA846708324; Wed, 30 Oct 96 12:35:39 CST Date: Wed, 30 Oct 96 12:35:39 CST Encoding: 44 Text Message-Id: <9609308467.AA846708324@SMTPGTWY.teamquest.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: How to discarge batter with fuel? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I always use the recycle button in the Fuel Gauge. It's a little half circle with an arrow on it. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: How to discarge batter with fuel? Author: Bill Berry at Gateway Date: 10/30/96 11:55 AM Hi, So, in my previous message I asked if the ThinkPads battery could be discharged with a utility like the PowerBooks. I was told that I could using the fuel utility included with the ThinkPad. "Aha" I said, and dutifully read the flippin' manual. Of course the manual covers way to keep your battery healthy and suggests that you do occasionally discharge the battery completely with the fuel utility to reduce battery memory problems. ....BUT IT DOESN'T SAY HOW TO DO IT! (hee hee! I just love the computer industry, don't you?) Does anybody here know how to completely discharge the battery with the utility? ******************************************************************************** Bill Berry Program Assistant Records Department Office of Undergraduate Admission 1801 Hinman Avenue Evanston, IL 60208 Phone: 847-467-1918 Email: w-berry@nwu.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 30 15:03:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA088225762; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:02:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26302; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:59:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:54:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25241; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:54:35 -0500 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25224; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:54:24 -0500 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA28105; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from johnppp.lantronix.com (tesu-pc2.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA22431 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:53:41 -0800 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 96 11:54:41 Pacific Standard Time From: John Pham Subject: Re: How to discarge batter with fuel? To: "Scott A. Stratmoen" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" , Bill Berry X-Mailer: Chameleon ATX 6.0, Standards Based IntraNet Solutions, NetManage Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu There used to be third party utilities out there that would handle these things and they might be available on the net, so do a search on shareware.com and see what you come up with. Otherwise, I'd disable all APM features, create a DOS batch file like this: echo off break on copy *.* c:\temp /y call battery Save it as battery.bat in a directory and run it. This would continuosly copy file from this directory to your c:\temp directory until the battery ran down. Hopefully you have Win95 or a recent version of DOS so it'll support the /y switch. (Try this on your own risk ;-)) I've Fuel v4.0 on my 760ELD which has the discharge option but haven't use it yet. John Pham --- On Wed, 30 Oct 96 12:39:13 +0600 "Scott A. Stratmoen" wrote: All Thinkpad models do not support this feature. If your model support discharge there will be three buttons on the fuel util. Otherwise just leave the unit on, with the charger disconnected, until the unit suspends. Then recharge the unit fully. There is nothing special about the discharge feature. On Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:44:28 -0600, Bill Berry wrote: >Hi, > >So, in my previous message I asked if the ThinkPads battery could be >discharged with a utility like the PowerBooks. I was told that I could >using the fuel utility included with the ThinkPad. "Aha" I said, and >dutifully read the flippin' manual. Of course the manual covers way to keep >your battery healthy and suggests that you do occasionally discharge the >battery completely with the fuel utility to reduce battery memory problems. > >....BUT IT DOESN'T SAY HOW TO DO IT! > >(hee hee! I just love the computer industry, don't you?) > >Does anybody here know how to completely discharge the battery with the >utility? > > > > >************************************************************************* ******* > >Bill Berry >Program Assistant >Records Department > >Office of Undergraduate Admission >1801 Hinman Avenue >Evanston, IL 60208 > >Phone: 847-467-1918 >Email: w-berry@nwu.edu > > > ____ Scott A. Stratmoen 847-259-9600 ex 4762 strat@eiws.esid.northgrum.com sstratmoen@radiomail.net ---------------End of Original Message----------------- -------------------------------------------------------- Name: John Pham E-mail: John Pham Date: 10/30/96 Time: 11:54:43 -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 30 15:20:25 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA091286814; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:20:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29399; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:17:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:14:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28550; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:14:23 -0500 Received: from merle.acns.nwu.edu (merle.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.57]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28537; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:14:16 -0500 Received: from [129.105.76.29] by merle.acns.nwu.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA179216423; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:13:43 -0600 X-Sender: bberry@merle.acns.nwu.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:13:40 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Berry Subject: Re: How to discharge battery third party solution Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu There is a shareware utility for battery maintenance called Depleter, or some such. You can get it @ http://www.download.com, do a quick search for battery. But again the documentation is a little sketchy...I guess the best thing to do is what the man said: let it run until it suspends. Sorry for not mentioning the model, that's a TP 365XD ******************************************************************************** Bill Berry Program Assistant Records Department Office of Undergraduate Admission 1801 Hinman Avenue Evanston, IL 60208 Phone: 847-467-1918 Email: w-berry@nwu.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 30 15:21:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA091446881; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:21:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24733; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:52:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:45:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23310; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:45:15 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@news1.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23241; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:45:00 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id.rad.net.id (dyn1037a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.37]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id WAA15230 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:44:33 +0700 (WIB) Message-Id: <32782EBB.4E7E@rad.net.id> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:44:43 -0600 From: "B. Sabini" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad Subject: TP701 Screens washed out. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu While on the subject of 701's screen. I have been noticing that whenever I connected to Multiport II, the screen got washed out. Color seemed becoming 4 bit and the screens got very bright But after disconnect the Multiport II and reboot it went back to normal. Any idea. thanks. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 30 15:34:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA094577675; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:34:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17340; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:36:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:29:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16539; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:29:40 -0500 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16522; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:29:35 -0500 Received: from lee.market1.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #10) id m0vIfNH-001Cq0C; Wed, 30 Oct 96 11:28 MST Message-Id: Date: Wed, 30 Oct 96 11:28 MST X-Sender: lee@rmii.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Bill Berry , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: lee@rmii.com (Lee Stewart) Subject: Re: How to discarge batter with fuel? Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >Does anybody here know how to completely discharge the battery with the >utility? There are two fuel programs, apparently for different models which have differant capabilities. On my 755C the fuel window has three buttons, the left most being a curved arrow, down then back up. That drains the battery. I also have a 365XD in front of me and it's fuel window only has two boxes (suspend and hibernate). I suspect you have the second which I presume says your machine can't do it... Lee Stewart From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 30 15:40:51 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA096918039; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:40:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24735; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:52:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:46:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23557; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:46:38 -0500 Received: from albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu [128.52.46.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23533; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:46:28 -0500 Received: from dynamic-7.async.pyramid.com by albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12GNU) with SMTP id KAA00513; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 10:46:16 -0500 Received: by dynamic-7.async.pyramid.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BBC647.90033E90@dynamic-7.async.pyramid.com>; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 09:48:54 -0600 Message-Id: <01BBC647.90033E90@dynamic-7.async.pyramid.com> From: Rick Tait To: "'Oliver Rutherfurd'" Cc: "'Thinkpad Mailing List'" Subject: RE: Sound under NT 4.0 on a Thinkpad 755C Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 09:47:48 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Oliver, Yup. I had the same problem. I bought a CDROM for my TP755cx which uses = a funky PCMCIA driver that NT doesn't recognise, so I couldnt do the = install the regular way. You have several options... First, I would recommend you format your HD. Do it - it makes sense in = the longrun. Install DOS, CDROM drivers. Nothing else. Option #1 Boot into DOS, and copy the entire D:\I386 directory (using xcopy) to = c:\I386. Reboot, then run the winnt command. Something like: c: cd \i386 winnt /s c:\i386 /b /x This will start the install, specifying c:\i386 as the source for the = install. It'll then uncompres everything, copy to like c:\$WINNT$.~$L or = whatever it is, reboot and carry on from there. The /x flag (or it may = be /ox) says that you don't want to create the boot floppies - they are = unnecessary.=20 Option #2 Boot into DOS, and do the same command from the D:\I386 directory - ie, = running the install from the CDROM. I couldn't do this simply because I = needed a lot of the drivers which were in the I386 directory, and since = I couldn't access the CDROM from NT (I knew that anyway) I needed the = uncompressed installation directory of NT on my harddisk. If I hadn't = copied everything across, then I would not have been able to access the = drivers. Follow me? So, you've installed NT. Reboot, do whatever it tells you to do, and you = should be all set. Installed Thinkpad Features for NT. Reboot. Setup the = Mwave/Modem/Sound thang. Reboot. Configure COM ports (for modem). = Reboot. Setup RAS so you can do that dialup networking thang. Reboot. = You're all there. Watch and enjoy as your Mwave services chew up nearly = 10MB of memory (hope you've got a lot!). Oh, and *DO* create your = emergency repair disk! :) I run NT4.0 on my TP755cx - with 40MB its a lot faster than Win95 ever = was on that machine. Hope this helps, .rickt P.S. I've copied the list so everyone can get the benefit (if theres any) in = this email. ---------- From: Oliver Rutherfurd Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 1996 1:55 PM To: Rick Tait Subject: Re: Sound under NT 4.0 on a Thinkpad 755C Hi, I was hoping to install NT 4.0 on my thinkpad 755, but do not know how = to get around the problem of having both floppies and a cd. How did you = get around this? - If you had the same problem. If you have any advice I would really appreciate some. Thanks -Ollie=20 orutherf@zoo.uvm.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 30 15:49:11 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA098038549; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:49:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03893; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:43:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:36:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02801; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:36:06 -0500 Received: from emout17.mail.aol.com (emout17.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.43]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02760; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:36:01 -0500 From: Received: by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA01929 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:35:22 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:35:22 -0500 Message-Id: <961030153522_1080272296@emout17.mail.aol.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 755cd for sale Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I Have a TP 755 cd 486dx-100 with 8 megs of ram with 810 mb drive. I purchaed it brand new in August, 1995. I used it for only four (4) months. It has remained in the box since then. I wish to know how much I should be asking for the unit. Perhaps someone may be willing to offer me a suggestion. Thnk you From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 30 16:27:26 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA105250835; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:27:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10167; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:20:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:15:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09302; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:15:54 -0500 Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09271; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:15:35 -0500 Received: from runngdog.pr.mcs.net (runngdog.pr.mcs.net [205.164.4.46]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.0/8.8.Beta.3) with ESMTP id PAA06584; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:15:10 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199610302115.PAA06584@Kitten.mcs.com> From: "Dane Tyson" To: Cc: Subject: Re: 760ELD suspend/hang problem. Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:16:26 -0600 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I have the same problem with my Tecra 720 -- which leads me to think its a W95 thing, not really hardware related. ---------- > From: emr@teamquest.com > To: > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: 760ELD suspend/hang problem. > Date: 30 October 1996 07:13 > > > Not sure if this is related in some way to the 701 suspend problem listed > earlier, but I have a suspend/hang problem an a 760ELD with Win95 on it. It > hangs upon returning to Windows after suspending, but only when I don't wait > until all hard drive activity stops. In other words, if I start using the mouse > or keyboard before it finishes un-suspending, it hangs. Any similar experiences > out there? > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: Re: ThinkPad: 701 suspend problems > Author: "Steven S. Tauber" at Gateway > Date: 10/29/96 2:32 PM > > > > Does it occur only when it's on battery power, or when it's plugged in as > > > well? Is the BIOS set up for automatic or manual hibernation/suspension? > > Perhaps you've recently added RAM without correspondingly increasing the > > size of the hibernation file? > > > Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 > > > > Happens on both battery power and AC. BIOS is set for automatic > hibernation/suspend. > No recent additions (or deletions) on the hardware side (hibernation file > size is correctly > configured as RAM +1). Remember, I indicated that the problem was sporadic > (although > it mostly DOESN'T work -- just hangs). > > Steve Tauber > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 30 16:42:35 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA108681746; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:42:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13314; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:39:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:36:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12825; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:36:37 -0500 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12712; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:36:18 -0500 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA03939; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:36:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from johnppp.lantronix.com (tesu-pc2.lantronix.com) by mulligan with SMTP id AA01538 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:36:02 -0800 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 96 13:44:46 Pacific Standard Time From: John Pham Subject: Re: 760ELD suspend/hang problem. To: Dane Tyson , emr@teamquest.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Chameleon ATX 6.0, Standards Based IntraNet Solutions, NetManage Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199610302115.PAA06584@Kitten.mcs.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Great, do you want to trade the Tecra for the 760ELD? I'd be glad to take it off your hand. ;-) John --- On Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:16:26 -0600 Dane Tyson wrote: I have the same problem with my Tecra 720 -- which leads me to think its a W95 thing, not really hardware related. ---------- > From: emr@teamquest.com > To: > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: 760ELD suspend/hang problem. > Date: 30 October 1996 07:13 > > > Not sure if this is related in some way to the 701 suspend problem listed > earlier, but I have a suspend/hang problem an a 760ELD with Win95 on it. It > hangs upon returning to Windows after suspending, but only when I don't wait > until all hard drive activity stops. In other words, if I start using the mouse > or keyboard before it finishes un-suspending, it hangs. Any similar experiences > out there? > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: Re: ThinkPad: 701 suspend problems > Author: "Steven S. Tauber" at Gateway > Date: 10/29/96 2:32 PM > > > > Does it occur only when it's on battery power, or when it's plugged in as > > > well? Is the BIOS set up for automatic or manual hibernation/suspension? > > Perhaps you've recently added RAM without correspondingly increasing the > > size of the hibernation file? > > > Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 > > > > Happens on both battery power and AC. BIOS is set for automatic > hibernation/suspend. > No recent additions (or deletions) on the hardware side (hibernation file > size is correctly > configured as RAM +1). Remember, I indicated that the problem was sporadic > (although > it mostly DOESN'T work -- just hangs). > > Steve Tauber > ---------------End of Original Message----------------- -------------------------------------------------------- Name: John Pham E-mail: John Pham Date: 10/30/96 Time: 13:44:47 -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 30 18:22:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA123757719; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:21:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29034; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:20:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:17:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28794; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:17:46 -0500 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28782; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:17:35 -0500 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id RAA25073; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:17:06 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199610302317.RAA25073@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:17:00 -0600 To: "Mark M. Ingerman" , Thinkpad Forum From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: Big hard drive for 755cx Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu The expectation is that the Toshiba 2.1G drive will work in the ThinkPad. You need a special carrier that can hold a 19mm drive. Also, some functions will be lost like drive password and hibernation. I upgraded my TP 755CD with a 1G 19mm Quantum and it went pretty smoothly. I used a PS-Solutions carrier. One thing to be aware of is that, with a 2G drive formatted with a single partition, you will end up with very large "allocation" units (probably 128K) meaning a 1K file will take 128K to store it, leading to lots of disk fragmentation. You can reduce the problem by partitioning the disk to lots of smaller drives. The real solution is to use MS FAT32 to get smaller allocation units. This is new and not too compatible. I had thought about doing the 2.1G Toshiba, but the Quantum came along at an outrageously good price ($190) so, I will wait to load up my drive space until the 2.1G's fall in price. I've seen the Toshibas for as little as $579. I think that was from a company called Bason. Thanks Mike Redmond -------- At 05:25 PM 10/30/96 -0500, Mark M. Ingerman wrote: >I am looking for a larger hard drive fro my 755cx. Ibm says that the >largest drive available is a 1.2 Gig. I was hoping for a 2 gig drive. I >seem to remmeber a discussion about this. Does anybody know if there is a >2 gig drive which willl work in my thinkpad with little effort? Either >way, I would appreciate suggestions on where to buy the 1.2 gig or better >drives. > > >Mark M. Ingerman >Creative Software Solutions, Inc. >ingerman@cs2.com >(508) 394-4266 > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 30 18:25:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA124667939; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:25:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00125; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:24:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:21:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29255; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:21:14 -0500 Received: from relay-1.mail.demon.net (relay-1.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.140]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29242; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:21:08 -0500 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([(null)]) by relay-1.mail.demon.net id ad05630; 30 Oct 96 21:32 GMT Received: from matchb.demon.co.uk ([158.152.105.156]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa13805; 30 Oct 96 21:25 GMT Sender: martin@mail.demon.net Message-Id: <3277D687.6F57D5D4@matchb.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 22:28:23 +0000 From: Martin Young X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.5 i486) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Third party HD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hello out there.. I'm trying to upgrade the HD on my Thinkpad 750 with a third party device (a Hitachi DK212A-81 810MB). I've upgraded the BIOS on the machine but it just cannot see the drive. Do I need to do anything clever with jumpers etc.. Yes, I know I've seen lots of reports that it should work, but maybe there's something quirky about this particular drive? I know the drive works 'cos I've tested it in a desktop machine. Thanks in advance, Martin. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed Oct 30 20:05:00 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA137623898; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 20:04:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21643; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:29:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:25:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20807; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:25:29 -0500 Received: from chelsea.ios.com (root@chelsea.ios.com [198.4.75.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA20793; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:25:25 -0500 Received: from localhost (ingerman@localhost) by chelsea.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA06857 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:25:20 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:25:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark M. Ingerman" X-Sender: ingerman@chelsea.ios.com To: Thinkpad Forum Subject: Big hard drive for 755cx Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu I am looking for a larger hard drive fro my 755cx. Ibm says that the largest drive available is a 1.2 Gig. I was hoping for a 2 gig drive. I seem to remmeber a discussion about this. Does anybody know if there is a 2 gig drive which willl work in my thinkpad with little effort? Either way, I would appreciate suggestions on where to buy the 1.2 gig or better drives. Mark M. Ingerman Creative Software Solutions, Inc. ingerman@cs2.com (508) 394-4266 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 31 00:29:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA173029758; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:29:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12530; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:22:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:17:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11723; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:17:13 -0500 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11717; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:17:06 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu (yu1.yu.edu [129.98.200.100]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA06559; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:17:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA53764; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:14:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:14:48 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinof To: "Mark M. Ingerman" Cc: Thinkpad Forum Subject: Re: Big hard drive for 755cx In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Behold, the product announcement below, for the 1.4GB and 2.1GB, reference the product announcement number or option number when talking to IBM and then miraculously they will see that those drives exit. The only catch is these IBM drives don't come cheap, I think someone quoted $1500 for the 2.1GB drive. Options by IBM: ThinkPad 760/755 Hard Disk Drives Announced on October 15, 1996 HARDWARE Announcement 196-250 At a Glance The new ThinkPad 760/755 HDDs feature: o 2.5-inch form factor o 1.4GB or 2.1GB capacity o ATA-3 IDE interface o 13 ms average seek time o MR head technology o No-ID sector formatting o 100/500 Gs operating/non-operating shock o Enhanced power management technology o One-year, limited warranty(2) For technical support: o Call the HelpCenter(R) (800-426-7299) or o Request technical information via IBM Faxback (800-426-3395) Overview Options by IBM extends the life of your mobile systems by announcing two new exciting upgrade options for ThinkPad(R) 760 and 755 systems. As your mobile system needs continue to accelerate, you can increase capacity and enhance the value of your ThinkPad system with a new high-capacity hard disk drive (HDD) upgrade. The ThinkPad 760/755 1.4GB HDD 3L is a super-slim (12.5 mm) profile, 2.5-inch HDD that can be easily added as a second drive in any ThinkPad 760 Ultrabay, or used to replace the original drive in any ThinkPad 760 or 755 system. For extraordinary capacity requirements, the ThinkPad 760/755 2.1GB(1) HDD 2X is a low-profile (17 mm), 2.5-inch HDD compatible with "thick-based" ThinkPad 760 and all 755 systems. Both drives incorporate advanced Magneto-Resistive (MR) head and No-ID sector format technologies developed by IBM. MR heads enable higher areal densities, thereby reducing the number of disks and heads for a given drive capacity. No-ID sector formatting further increases the storage capacity by eliminating the overhead caused by the duplicate storage of each data sector's ID fields on the disk, and uses that disk space for additional user data. MR head technology, combined with No-ID sector formatting, enables the drives to deliver high capacity and enhanced performance in a reliable design. These disk drives are ideal for ThinkPad system users with ever increasing requirements for emerging technologies, new applications, and data storage. Integrated fax, graphics, Internet, and multimedia won't be held back by lack of disk space. The mobile system user does not have to sacrifice desktop storage capacity to stay on the go. IBM HDDs are designed with key mobility features to meet customer needs of ruggedness and low power consumption. Both ThinkPad HDDs are easily installed and removed by the end user. One mobile system can be shared by multiple users by giving each one their own disk drive for personal applications and data. IBM's HDD options are designed to balance the requirements of capacity, performance, size, enhanced power management, and ruggedness to meet the exacting standards of the ThinkPad customer. This is an excellent reason to upgrade your ThinkPad with original equipment, designed specifically for your ThinkPad's features. Intended Customers ThinkPad 760/755 users who require desktop storage capacity on their mobile systems. Key Prerequisites These new HDDs are supported on selected ThinkPad 755 and 760 models. Refer to the Hardware Requirements section for specific details. Planned Availability Date October 29, 1996 (1) GB = Billion bytes. Formatted capacities; actual available capacity depends on operating system installed, if any. (2) For information on and copies of IBM's statement of limited warranty, call 800-772-2227 or contact your reseller. THINKPAD 760/755 1.4GB HDD 3L (69H8412) AND 2.1GB HDD 2X (69H8414) Product Positioning: Distribution to customers requiring removable 2.5-inch HDDs for upgrade or second HDD on ThinkPad 760 and 755 systems. Technical Information Performance Specifications 69H8412 69H8414 Interface ATA-3 ATA-3 Formatted capacity (GB) 1.4 2.1 Rotational speed (RPM) 4000 4000 Data transfer rate (MB/s) Interface -- PIO mode 4, DMA-2 16.6 16.6 Media 4.2-6.74 4.2-6.74 Average read seek time (ms) 13 12 Data buffer size (KB) 96 96 Number of disks/drive 2 3 Number of heads 4 6 BER 1E-13 1E-13 Disk type Thin film Thin film Head type MR MR Physical Specifications ThinkPad 760/755 1.4GB HDD 3L o Approximate height: 12.5 mm (0.5 in) o Approximate width: 70 mm (2.76 in) o Approximate depth: 100 mm (3.95 in) o Approximate weight: 140 g ThinkPad 760/755 2.1GB HDD 2X o Approximate height: 17.0 mm (0.7 in) o Approximate width: 70 mm (2.76 in) o Approximate depth: 100 mm (3.95 in) o Approximate weight: 186 g Operating Environment o Temperature: 5(degs) to 55(degs)C (41(degs) to 131(degs)F) o Relative humidity: 8% to 90% Agency Approvals o UL o CSA o TUV o EIA Energy Star-Compliant: No Note: The Energy Star emblem does not represent EPA endorsement of any product or service. Hardware Requirements: The new ThinkPad 760/750 HDDs are supported on the following IBM platforms: ThinkPad 760/755 1.4GB HDD 3L (69H8412) Machine System Name Type Model ThinkPad 760 9546, 9547 All ThinkPad 755 9545 All ThinkPad 760/755 2.1GB HDD 2X (69H8414) Machine System Name Type Model ThinkPad 760 9546 All except: x22, 2b, 21, 2a, 27. x2h, 28, 2j, 41, 42, x4a, 4b ThinkPad 760 9547 All except: x01, 0a, 0r ThinkPad 755 9545 All Note: A Second HDD Adapter (29H9333) is required to allow for installation of two HDDs in the ThinkPad 760 Ultrabay. Software Requirements o IBM PC DOS 7 o OS/2(R) Warp Version 3 o MS-DOS Version 6.22 o Microsoft Windows+ 95 o Microsoft Windows Version 3.11 o Microsoft Windows for Workgroups 3.11 Compatibility: Refer to the Hardware Requirements section. Limitations o When a second HDD is in the ThinkPad Ultrabay(TM), it cannot be formatted by the OS/2 Warp FDISK program after being assigned as the logical drive. A fix will be provided under OS/2 Warp APAR PJ19672. o Use boot manager when booting OS/2 Warp from a secondary drive. o Continuous use of HDD, as in reading long video files, will impact battery life. Planning Information Cable Orders Required: No Installation Time: Approximately five minutes Packaging: One box Shipment Group o Drive assembly o Publication Security, Auditability, and Control This product uses the security and auditability features of the system in which it is installed. Terms and Conditions Field-Installable Yes Customer Setup Yes Warranty: Period 1 Year Service Type CCE Maintenance Agreement No Optional Upgrade No Central Facility Maintenance Service Option (CFMS) No Licensed Programs No Help and Service Information During the warranty period, call 800-426-7299 for technical support, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, to answer any questions regarding your new IBM option. Response time will vary depending on the number and nature of calls received. If you need warranty service, return or exchange is available. In addition, if your IBM option is installed in an IBM computer, you may be entitled to service at your location. Your technical support representative can help you determine the best alternative. CHARGES Contact your IBM representative for charges information for this announcement. (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation in the United States or other countries or both. + Registered trademark of Microsoft Corporation On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Mark M. Ingerman wrote: > I am looking for a larger hard drive fro my 755cx. Ibm says that the > largest drive available is a 1.2 Gig. I was hoping for a 2 gig drive. I > seem to remmeber a discussion about this. Does anybody know if there is a > 2 gig drive which willl work in my thinkpad with little effort? Either > way, I would appreciate suggestions on where to buy the 1.2 gig or better > drives. > > > Mark M. Ingerman > Creative Software Solutions, Inc. > ingerman@cs2.com > (508) 394-4266 > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 31 00:59:48 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA176341587; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:59:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15695; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:58:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:56:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15553; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:56:35 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@news1.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15543; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:56:15 -0500 Received: from server2.rad.net.id.rad.net.id (dyn1186a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.186]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id LAA14508; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:46:44 +0700 (WIB) Message-Id: <3278E60D.331E@rad.net.id> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:46:53 -0600 From: "B. Sabini" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Christian Carey Cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: TP701 Screens washed out. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Christian Carey wrote: > > On Wednesday, 30th October 1996, B. Sabini wrote: > > > While on the subject of 701's screen. I have been noticing that whenever > > I connected to Multiport II, the screen got washed out. > > Color seemed becoming 4 bit and the screens got very bright > > But after disconnect the Multiport II and reboot it went back to normal. > > Any idea. > > Which OS are you using when this happens? > -- > Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 Here's the spec: IBM TP701C, 16mb,540mb,TFT,Win95,video controller Chips&Technology CT-65545/1mb From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 31 01:15:00 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA178462497; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 01:14:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA13599; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:26:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:22:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12496; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:22:24 -0500 Received: from post.aecom.yu.edu (post.aecom.yu.edu [129.98.1.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12478; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:22:19 -0500 Received: from yu1.yu.edu (yu1.yu.edu [129.98.200.100]) by post.aecom.yu.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA06718; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:22:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA35794; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:19:56 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:19:55 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Hosseinof To: Rick Tait Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: New Mwave on NT4.0 (memory usage) In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961030120911.010cd97c@gnu.ai.mit.edu> Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In Windows95 at least, look in the [MWAVE] section of system.ini (I would expect it to be the same in Win NT), there is a setting for DMABufferSize, mine is set to 5632K, which is how much memory the mwave device reserves for its use on initialization. Try lowering this value and see how your mwave device works. This dmabuffer is only for the sound system and not the modem (so I'm told). Josh Hosseinof hosseino@yu1.yu.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 31 07:36:59 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA217195418; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 07:36:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA11742; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 07:35:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Oct 1996 07:30:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA11002; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 07:30:19 -0500 Received: from gwa.ericsson.com (gwa.ericsson.com [198.215.127.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA10993; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 07:30:15 -0500 Received: from mr1.exu.ericsson.se (mr1.exu.ericsson.com [138.85.147.11]) by gwa.ericsson.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id GAA12995 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 06:29:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (screamer.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.133.13]) by mr1.exu.ericsson.se (8.7.1/NAHUB-MR1.1) with SMTP id GAA29202 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 06:29:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from rpc511 (pc8016.rtp.ericsson.se [147.117.138.16]) by screamer.rtp.ericsson.se (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id HAA28639 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 07:29:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199610311229.HAA28639@screamer.rtp.ericsson.se> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Brett Pantalone" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 07:31:27 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Parity question Reply-To: pantalone@egertp.ericsson.se Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu What will happen if I go into the EZ setup program and disable RAM parity checking on my 755CE? Will this cause any performance or compatibility problems? Non-parity RAM upgrades seem to be slightly less expensive than the parity type. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Brett Pantalone Ericsson Mobile Communications pantalone@egertp.ericsson.se Software Development Group From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 31 08:03:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA219887011; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 08:03:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16822; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 08:02:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Oct 1996 08:00:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16471; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 08:00:33 -0500 Received: from deneb.dfn.de (deneb.dfn.de [192.76.176.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16424; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 08:00:25 -0500 Received: from unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (rzgw.rz.fh-hannover.de) by deneb.dfn.de (4.1/SMI-4.2) id AA28578; Thu, 31 Oct 96 14:00:30 +0100 Received: from bidnix.bid.fh-hannover.de by unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA26123; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:57:41 +0100 Received: from localhost by bidnix.bid.fh-hannover.de with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0vIwim-0005MTC; Thu, 31 Oct 96 13:59 MET Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:59:44 +0100 (MET) From: Hanno Wagner To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Hard Drive... In-Reply-To: <199610311229.HAA28639@screamer.rtp.ericsson.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Sorry to ask this, but I have resubscribed the list only yesterday, so I missed the complete thread... Which kind of hard drive can I use in my Thinkpad? I have a TP 370C, which uses the same Hard Drives as the 755 C[X,D]. For what I have to look? (I have a private offer for some 2.5 inch drives - but I don't know wether they will work in my Thinkpad. Thanks in Advance, Ciao, Hanno -- Hanno Wagner, Member of the ISTF Member of the HTML Writers Guild pgp-fingerprint: 7D C1 01 72 75 22 01 4F 6F 08 06 49 1B 02 4A A6 > The day people think linux would be better served by somebody else (FSF > being the natural alternative), I'll "abdicate". I don't think that > it's something people have to worry about right now - I don't see it > happening in the near future. I enjoy doing linux, even though it does > mean some work, and I haven't gotten any complaints (some almost timid > reminders about a patch I have forgotten or ignored, but nothing > negative so far). > > Don't take the above to mean that I'll stop the day somebody complains: > I'm thick-skinned (Lasu, who is reading this over my shoulder commented > that "thick-HEADED is closer to the truth") enough to take some abuse. > If I weren't, I'd have stopped developing linux the day ast ridiculed me > on c.o.minix. What I mean is just that while linux has been my baby so > far, I don't want to stand in the way if people want to make something > better of it (*). > > Linus > > (*) Hey, maybe I could apply for a saint-hood from the Pope. Does > somebody know what his email-address is? I'm so nice it makes you puke. (Taken from Linus's reply to someone worried about the future of Linux) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 31 08:50:24 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA225059823; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 08:50:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28420; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 08:49:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Oct 1996 08:44:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26934; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 08:44:33 -0500 Received: from tribune.concentric.net (tribune.concentric.net [199.3.12.34]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26914; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 08:44:25 -0500 Received: from cliff.cris.com (cliff.cris.com [199.3.12.45]) by tribune.concentric.net (8.7.5/(96/10/25 1.9)) id IAA07693; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 08:44:20 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from brain (cnc062056.concentric.net [206.173.6.56]) by cliff.cris.com (8.8.0) id IAA01438; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 08:44:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3278ACE4.51CA@cris.com> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 08:43:00 -0500 From: Arthur Woo X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad battery/charge question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Hi, I purchased a new Thinkpad 365X a few days ago and have been very happy with it except for one detail: the Fuel Gauge and Win 95 Power accessories both report that there is no battery strength left although the battery status LED indicates that there is, and I do get the normal operating time from the battery. What could be the problem causing the erroneous battery strength reports? The system has a BIOS that supports APM 1.2, and the battery is the NIMH that shipped with the computer. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. --Arthur Woo artwoo@cris.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 31 10:16:00 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA235144959; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:15:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14623; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:13:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:10:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14298; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:10:49 -0500 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14273; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:10:44 -0500 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id JAA26105; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:10:00 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199610311510.JAA26105@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:09:55 -0600 To: Arthur Woo From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: Thinkpad battery/charge question Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Sorry...I didn't read this closely enough. You are clearly getting use of the battery so you must have already turned it on. I don't have a "fix" for the fuel gauge issue. I need to use ThinkPad utilities from IBM for my power management. I haven't tried the Win95 generic ones (in fact, I don't even know where they are). I have a 755CD that has specific IBM utilities for this. Thanks Mike Redmond --------- At 08:43 AM 10/31/96 -0500, you wrote: >Hi, > >I purchased a new Thinkpad 365X a few days ago and have been very happy >with it except for one detail: the Fuel Gauge and Win 95 Power >accessories both report that there is no battery strength left although >the battery status LED indicates that there is, and I do get the normal >operating time from the battery. > >What could be the problem causing the erroneous battery strength >reports? The system has a BIOS that supports APM 1.2, and the battery >is the NIMH that shipped with the computer. > >Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. >Thank you. > >--Arthur Woo >artwoo@cris.com > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 31 10:21:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA236295291; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:21:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16110; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:18:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:15:54 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15557; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:15:44 -0500 Received: from etn.com (firewall.etn.com [151.110.127.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15493; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:15:29 -0500 Received: from ([151.110.102.224]) by firewall.etn.com with SMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA262724907; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:15:08 -0500 Received: from sentry.bev.etn.com ([151.110.165.80]) by (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10587; Thu, 31 Oct 96 10:14:21 EST Received: by sentry.bev.etn.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BBC714.E70FB420@sentry.bev.etn.com>; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:18:47 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Wieboldt, David" To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: What is a 760L? Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:20:57 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Does anybody know exactly what a 760L is? I looked on IBM's page and it is not there. The book that came with it describes the 760C. The computer says it is model 9547. Should it do 800x600 video? I question it because in 800x600 X windows, each virtual screen is bigger than the real screen. Thanks and Ciao! -- D. W. Wieboldt - Product Support Engineer . . . . 512-248-2766 Eaton SEO Product Support . . . . . . . . . . . . 512-248-2536 dwiebold@aus.etn.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 31 12:59:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA259674784; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 12:59:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16806; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 12:56:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Oct 1996 12:50:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16041; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 12:50:22 -0500 Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (ccarey@cap1.CapAccess.org [207.91.115.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16015; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 12:50:15 -0500 Received: (from ccarey@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id MAA13041; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 12:53:14 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 12:53:14 -0500 (EST) From: Christian Carey To: "B. Sabini" Cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: TP701 Screens washed out. In-Reply-To: <3278E60D.331E@rad.net.id> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thursday, 31st October 1996, B. Sabini wrote: > > > While on the subject of 701's screen. I have been noticing that > > > whenever I connected to Multiport II, the screen got washed out. > > > Color seemed becoming 4 bit and the screens got very bright > > > But after disconnect the Multiport II and reboot it went back to > > > normal. Any idea. > > > > Which OS are you using when this happens? > > Win95 Have you downloaded and installed the latest Windows 95 video drivers for the 701C from the IBM FTP site? -- Christian Carey (ccarey@CapAccess.ORG) +1 301 431 0053 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 31 13:33:53 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA265326831; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:33:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20801; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:27:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:24:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20317; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:24:36 -0500 Received: from kells.vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20279; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:24:26 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com (lgate.vmedia.com [199.72.13.243]) by kells.vmedia.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id NAA06459 for <@kells.vmedia.com:tp750@cs.utk.edu>; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:21:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA4729; Thu, 31 Oct 96 13:23:09 -0800 Message-Id: <9610312123.AA4729@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id DCAF55E1CE2E1896852563D400648FD2; Thu, 31 Oct 96 13:23:07 EDT To: "Brett Pantalone" Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 31 Oct 96 13:19:58 EDT Subject: Re: Parity question X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu "...What will happen if I go into the EZ setup program and disable RAM parity checking on my 755CE? Will this cause any performance or compatibility problems? Non-parity RAM upgrades seem to be slightly less expensive than the parity type...." ~~~~~ it's been my experience that nothing out of the ordinary will happen. i have one 755ce in my cornucopia of 755's and, like the others, it has no problems with 3rd party non-parity memory, when parity checking is disabled in ezsetup. Michael J. Verne Systems Administrator, Ventana Communications Group michael_verne@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ ------------------------------- When life hands me lemons, I make lemonade. When life hands me comedy, I send email. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 31 13:54:48 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA269358086; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:54:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22790; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:44:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:41:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22459; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:41:00 -0500 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22452; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:40:55 -0500 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id NAA25382; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:42:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:42:06 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Brett Pantalone Cc: tp750 Subject: Re: Parity question In-Reply-To: <9610312123.AA4729@lgate.vmedia.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu > What will happen if I go into the EZ setup program and disable RAM > parity checking on my 755CE? Will this cause any performance or > compatibility problems? Non-parity RAM upgrades seem to be slightly > less expensive than the parity type. This may have changed with the later models, but on my 750, all parity checking did was warn you of 1-bit memory errors. While this is useful, it's nothing you couldn't find out with a program (or OS) that rigorously tests or works the memory (like OS/2, NT, or Linux). Some EISA machines and possibly PCI machines have this neat feature where if the parity memory indicates an error, the computer will map around it. You lose a few bytes (few k?) of RAM, but the memory SIMM/DIMM/card is still usable. -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 31 14:40:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA275920802; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:40:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00877; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:33:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:29:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29696; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:29:09 -0500 Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com (emout19.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.45]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29688; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:29:03 -0500 From: Received: by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA03676; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:28:26 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:28:26 -0500 Message-Id: <961031142825_1913838936@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: ingerman@chelsea.ios.com, TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Big hard drive for 755cx Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu In a message dated 96-10-30 17:29:49 EST, you write: << I am looking for a larger hard drive fro my 755cx. Ibm says that the largest drive available is a 1.2 Gig. I was hoping for a 2 gig drive. I seem to remmeber a discussion about this. Does anybody know if there is a 2 gig drive which willl work in my thinkpad with little effort? Either way, I would appreciate suggestions on where to buy the 1.2 gig or better drives. >> CMS makes a 2.1Gb HD for the Thinkpad 750 & 755 series I recently purchased from Vanstar for around $700. Great access time, comes with special disk software to configure large partitions under DOS but found that Win95 could format it on its own. Been using it for about 2 weeks now without a hitch, and installation was as simple as lifting the keyboard, lifting out the 800Mb drive, replacing it with the 2.1Gb drive, and closing the keyboard. Mike Pinter, Sr. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 31 15:15:12 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA280492904; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:15:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06845; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:10:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:06:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06004; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:06:46 -0500 Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05997; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:06:38 -0500 From: Received: by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA13492 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:05:41 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:05:41 -0500 Message-Id: <961031150540_134696123@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Big hard drive for 755cx Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu We have 2.1gb Hard Drives that you can install in your TP755CX. Our ShipKits can be installed by you with our model specific Step-By-Step instructions.The additional Hard Drive Carriers are included at no extra charge. We also have RAM, HDD, and CPU upgrades for many ot the Thinkpad systems. Please contact me with your model number if you would like our pricing. Best Regards, Michael email: pepsale2@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM Up to 2.1GB in your Notebook! WEB: http://www.portables.com/pep ========Original Message======== Subj: Big hard drive for 755cx Date: 96-10-30 17:29:49 EST From: ingerman@chelsea.ios.com (Mark M. Ingerman) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu (Thinkpad Forum) I am looking for a larger hard drive fro my 755cx. Ibm says that the largest drive available is a 1.2 Gig. I was hoping for a 2 gig drive. I seem to remmeber a discussion about this. Does anybody know if there is a 2 gig drive which willl work in my thinkpad with little effort? Either way, I would appreciate suggestions on where to buy the 1.2 gig or better drives. Mark M. Ingerman Creative Software Solutions, Inc. ingerman@cs2.com (508) 394-4266 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 31 16:25:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA289887140; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:25:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03701; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:45:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:40:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02806; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:40:05 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (root@aspen.wwsi.com [206.83.112.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02784; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:39:58 -0500 Received: from aspen.wwsi.com (ssh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aspen.wwsi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA28300; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:41:25 -0700 Message-Id: <199610311641.JAA28300@aspen.wwsi.com> To: "Wieboldt, David" Cc: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Re: What is a 760L? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:20:57 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.78) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:41:24 -0700 From: Steve Hultquist Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu >>>>> "dww" == Wieboldt, David writes: dww> Does anybody know exactly what a 760L is? I looked on IBM's page dww> and it is not there. The book that came with it describes the dww> 760C. The computer says it is model 9547. Should it do 800x600 dww> video? I question it because in 800x600 X windows, each virtual dww> screen is bigger than the real screen. Thanks and Ciao! -- The 760L was a lesser relative of the 760C. I think it only does 640x480. ssh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 31 16:34:06 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA290687644; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:34:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13954; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:08:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:04:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12740; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:04:06 -0500 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12720; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:03:56 -0500 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id JAA25713; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:03:29 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199610311503.JAA25713@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:03:24 -0600 To: Arthur Woo , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: Thinkpad battery/charge question Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu You may want to make sure you've turned the 'On/Off" switch on your battery to "On". My thinkpad battery is supposedly "smart" and needs to be turned on from a no-charge state in order to keep proper info on status. See your manual under the battery section to verify this. Thanks Mike Redmond ------------- At 08:43 AM 10/31/96 -0500, Arthur Woo wrote: >Hi, > >I purchased a new Thinkpad 365X a few days ago and have been very happy >with it except for one detail: the Fuel Gauge and Win 95 Power >accessories both report that there is no battery strength left although >the battery status LED indicates that there is, and I do get the normal >operating time from the battery. > >What could be the problem causing the erroneous battery strength >reports? The system has a BIOS that supports APM 1.2, and the battery >is the NIMH that shipped with the computer. > >Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. >Thank you. > >--Arthur Woo >artwoo@cris.com > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 31 16:35:37 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA290977736; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:35:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20073; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:38:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:36:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19497; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:36:01 -0500 Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19488; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:35:52 -0500 Received: from mulligan (arnie.lantronix.com [192.111.119.91]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA21458; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 07:35:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from johnppp.lantronix.com by mulligan with SMTP id AA01890 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.4.4); Thu, 31 Oct 1996 07:35:29 -0800 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 96 07:41:37 Pacific Standard Time From: John Pham Subject: Re: What is a 760L? To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" , "Wieboldt, David" X-Mailer: Chameleon ATX 6.0, Standards Based IntraNet Solutions, NetManage Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu It could be a discontinued model. The manual that came with my 760ELD was written for the 760E/ED but did have a thin supplement for the 760ELD. John Pham --- On Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:20:57 -0500 "Wieboldt, David" wrote: Does anybody know exactly what a 760L is? I looked on IBM's page and it is not there. The book that came with it describes the 760C. The computer says it is model 9547. Should it do 800x600 video? I question it because in 800x600 X windows, each virtual screen is bigger than the real screen. Thanks and Ciao! -- D. W. Wieboldt - Product Support Engineer . . . . 512-248-2766 Eaton SEO Product Support . . . . . . . . . . . . 512-248-2536 dwiebold@aus.etn.com ---------------End of Original Message----------------- -------------------------------------------------------- Name: John Pham E-mail: John Pham Date: 10/31/96 Time: 07:41:39 -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 31 16:37:54 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA291827869; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:37:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA13975; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:09:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:02:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12534; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:02:45 -0500 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12512; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:02:36 -0500 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id JAA25573; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:01:31 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199610311501.JAA25573@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 09:01:26 -0600 To: Martin Young From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: Third party HD Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu There is a chance that the 750 is setting your drive to Slave mode through the set of pins on the end of the drive connector (those closest to the end of the group of 4 separated from the rest of the pins). If you have a manual for the drive, compare the pin configurations with those of the IBM drives. You can find some IBM drive info at: http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/dhaa/dhaajum.htm If they are incompatible, you may have to take steps to "open" the connection between those two last pins. I have read here that some people have done it with tape on the IBM carrier connector. Others have cut pins or solder paths on their drives. For any of this, you better be pretty sure about what you are doing first. Learn more about it and then...good luck. Disclaimer...These are probably uninformed opinions and you should not believe them or act on them in any way until you find out for yourself! :-|)> Thanks Mike Redmond =================== At 10:28 PM 10/30/96 +0000, you wrote: >Hello out there.. > >I'm trying to upgrade the HD on my Thinkpad 750 with a third party >device (a Hitachi DK212A-81 810MB). I've upgraded the BIOS on the >machine but it just cannot see the drive. Do I need to do anything >clever with jumpers etc.. Yes, I know I've seen lots of reports that it >should work, but maybe there's something quirky about this particular >drive? I know the drive works 'cos I've tested it in a desktop machine. > >Thanks in advance, >Martin. > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 31 16:56:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA294248956; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:55:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22901; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:49:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:39:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21002; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:39:40 -0500 Received: from chelsea.ios.com (root@chelsea.ios.com [198.4.75.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA20986; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:39:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (ingerman@localhost) by chelsea.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA09593 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:39:29 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:39:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark M. Ingerman" X-Sender: ingerman@chelsea.ios.com To: Thinkpad Forum Subject: 755cx hard drive ( cont. ) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Thank you to all who repsonding to my request about larger hard drives. There was one ting, however, which I saw whic confused me. One of the IBM announcements talked about a second drive option. Is there someway to put a second hard disk in the 755? Or, do you need the docking station for the second drive? If I could get a second drive, that would, perhaps, be better. Mark M. Ingerman Creative Software Solutions, Inc. ingerman@cs2.com (508) 394-4266 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 31 17:32:46 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA002331165; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 17:32:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29354; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 17:28:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Oct 1996 17:25:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28928; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 17:25:21 -0500 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28795; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 17:25:00 -0500 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id QAA07469; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:24:38 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199610312224.QAA07469@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:24:36 -0600 To: "Mark M. Ingerman" , Thinkpad Forum From: Michael Redmond Subject: Re: 755cx hard drive ( cont. ) and portable drive case Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Second hard drives can only fit internally into 760 systems with UltraBay. They can also go into external docking stations, but that doesn't really count. I picked up a Bullet external, portable drive case from Road Warrior. I am going to put my old 540M TP drive in it eventually. It was a little flakey and required a lot of tech support to find out that it was incompatible with a 755CD setting (you need to set LPT2 rather than LPT1 in easysetup). My notebook doesn't have enough power in the keyboard port to make it work, so I need to get an external supply. Total cost if you need the supply is close to $150 which puts it on the margins in terms of value. Since it uses the parallel port, it is quite slow (the software test utility that comes with says 340K ?bits/bytes per sec read, and 613K /sec write-my machine doesn't have EPP, so your mileage may differ). I think it is bytes. It also loads up the CPU so any simultaneous operations you attempt to do in Win 95 slow way down. Despite all that, it is very compact and potentially useful. It has come in handy for building new systems by copying whole disks from place to place. I expect to use it as a relatively fast backup system as well. Thanks Mike Redmond ------------- At 04:39 PM 10/31/96 -0500, Mark M. Ingerman wrote: >Thank you to all who repsonding to my request about larger hard drives. >There was one ting, however, which I saw whic confused me. One of the IBM >announcements talked about a second drive option. Is there someway to put >a second hard disk in the 755? Or, do you need the docking station for >the second drive? If I could get a second drive, that would, perhaps, be >better. > >Mark M. Ingerman >Creative Software Solutions, Inc. >ingerman@cs2.com >(508) 394-4266 > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 31 18:22:59 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA011184178; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 18:22:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06844; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 18:17:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Oct 1996 18:14:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06574; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 18:14:43 -0500 Received: from patty.loop.net (patty.loop.net [204.179.169.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06568; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 18:14:38 -0500 Received: from pma1_199.loop.com (pma1_199.loop.com [206.138.116.199]) by patty.loop.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA11326 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:14:22 -0800 Message-Id: <199610312314.PAA11326@patty.loop.net> X-Sender: howie@pop.loop.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:14:28 -0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Howard Subject: Helix Hurricane software Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu Before going into detail, has anyone had experience with this program running Windows 3.11? I use it, and have some bizarre issues on my 701c. Most bothersome is windows locking up when coming out of Suspend, but it's unpredictable. If anyone might have insight, I would appreciate the followup. Howard From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu Oct 31 19:42:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA022108939; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 19:42:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA14293; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 19:35:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 31 Oct 1996 19:32:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13907; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 19:32:05 -0500 Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (root@mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13898; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 19:31:55 -0500 Received: from saltasaurus.execpc.com (saltasaurus.execpc.com [169.207.12.237]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.7.6/8.7.5) with SMTP id SAA28274; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 18:31:53 -0600 From: tom.kustner@emjay.com (Tom Kustner) To: Howard Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Helix Hurricane software Date: Fri, 01 Nov 1996 00:33:08 GMT Organization: Emjay Corporation Message-Id: <3279448c.794929@mailgate.execpc.com> References: <199610312314.PAA11326@patty.loop.net> In-Reply-To: <199610312314.PAA11326@patty.loop.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/16.299 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Comment: to {un}subscribe, send mail to thinkpad-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu On Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:14:28 -0800, you wrote: >Before going into detail, has anyone had experience with this program >running Windows 3.11? I use it, and have some bizarre issues on my = 701c. >Most bothersome is windows locking up when coming out of Suspend, but = it's >unpredictable. =20 >If anyone might have insight, I would appreciate the followup. > >Howard > Make sure you the latest version, which is 2.02 (2.01 is also fine, though not 2.00). I have installed it on our Thinkpad 760ED running Windows 3.1 and haven't had trouble with it. We also run Hurricane 2.01 on four Dell Pentiums and have had no problems. Version 1.x of Hurricane was quirky. I only run the Heap Expander and Global Dos Manager part of it. It's the Heap Expander that is the guts of it. Some of the other options have bugs in it, but the Heap Expander will let you run a *lot* of programs before your system breaks down. Go to http://www.helix.com for updates, I think. People who bought 1.x were supposed to get 2.x free. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation =20 System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. Email: tom.kustner@emjay.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay's.