From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 1 08:38:50 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18622; Wed, 1 May 96 08:38:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28487; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:38:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 1 May 1996 08:29:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27660; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:29:49 -0400 Received: from kodakr.kodak.com (kodakr.kodak.com [150.220.251.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27650; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:29:40 -0400 Received: from AXOPTA.KODAK.COM (axopta.ep.kodak.com) by kodakr.kodak.com with SMTP id AA00186 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 May 1996 08:27:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199605011227.AA00186@kodakr.kodak.com> Received: from gershwin ([150.221.241.18]) by AXOPTA.KODAK.COM with SMTP; Wed, 1 May 1996 8:27:59 -0400 (EDT) Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "John D. Griffith" Organization: Eastman Kodak Co. To: epbrown@suba.com (Emanuel Brown) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 08:27:06 -5000 Subject: Re: 701C Modem Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) > Thanks for the advice, guys! Putting the m in the dial string worked; > sorry, John, but I never got it to work in the init string. Care to email > me yours so I can try it out? Okay, I use OS/2 for all my thinkpad networking and I get my access from PSI Interramp. I use the following init strings in the OS/2 dialer: 1st init string: ATF (reset to factory settings, I believe) 2nd init string: ATE0&C1&D2&S1&Q5&K3W1M This has solved all my disconnect problems with PSI. I've been using it for about a month without any problem. I'm getting ready to set up PPP on the thinkad to access our corporate network. I will let you know if the same modem string works well for this case. John G. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 1 09:30:56 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22305; Wed, 1 May 96 09:30:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03228; Wed, 1 May 1996 09:30:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 1 May 1996 09:28:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03063; Wed, 1 May 1996 09:28:54 -0400 Received: from interramp.com (pop3.interramp.com [38.8.32.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03057; Wed, 1 May 1996 09:28:52 -0400 Received: from us027545.interramp.com by interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-pop-local) id JAA01573; Wed, 1 May 1996 09:28:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 09:28:28 -0400 Message-Id: <199605011328.JAA01573@interramp.com> X-Sender: us027545@pop3.interramp.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: TP760 memory prices I'm looking to add 8 or 16 megs to my 760C. What is the best price I can find out there for either DIMM? LA Trade seems to have competitive pricing. Has anyone dealt with them before? Any comments/opinions greatly appreciated. C:\Mark_Bell\800_College_Drive_#104\Vineland_NJ\08360\6093274029 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 1 15:31:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11491; Wed, 1 May 96 15:31:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06900; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:29:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 1 May 1996 15:25:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06417; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:25:16 -0400 Received: from gatekeeper.nsc.com (gatekeeper.nsc.com [139.187.71.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06399; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:25:11 -0400 Received: from nsc.nsc.com by gatekeeper.nsc.com (5.65/fma-120691) with SMTP; id AA22005 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 1 May 96 12:25:07 -0700 Received: from berlioz.nsc.com by nsc.nsc.com (5.65/1.34) with SMTP id AA02524 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 1 May 96 12:25:05 -0700 Received: from maradona.nsc.com by berlioz.nsc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25875; Wed, 1 May 96 12:22:20 PDT Date: Wed, 1 May 96 12:22:20 PDT From: wmng@berlioz.nsc.com (William Ng) Message-Id: <9605011922.AA25875@berlioz.nsc.com> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: accessing the compress drive from Linux Hello all, I have a TP755CX with win3.1 and linux installed. I am planning to upgrade to win95 and have the following questions: 1. Could Linux be able to access the Win95 files like in the past with msdos files? Win95 will have longer filenames, what is it going to be like under Linux? 2. Could Linux be able to access the compressed drive under Win95 using Win95 latest doublespace that come with Win95 Plus!? If Linux could not read Win95 doublespace drive, what is the alternative? Will Stacker be a good choice, and will Stacker handle long filenames? Thanks very much. -William Ng NSC wmng@nsc.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 1 15:52:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12616; Wed, 1 May 96 15:52:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09134; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:49:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 1 May 1996 15:48:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08921; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:48:30 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08906; Wed, 1 May 1996 15:48:27 -0400 Received: from lee.market1.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #4) id m0uEhr8-000KBhC; Wed, 1 May 96 13:46 MDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 May 96 13:46 MDT X-Sender: lee@rmii.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: lee@rmii.com (Lee Stewart) Subject: 755CDV Microphone Volume Hi... I'm working with a friend who has a 755CDV and is trying, unsuccessfully, to use the Internet Phone software. As we've tried different things trying to rule things out, it appears that the problem is on the microphone input side of things. But even just using the Sound Recorder application, we can't get more than a small blip on the waveform window, and playback of something he records is hardly audible. That's the same symptom using Internet Phone too, he can hear fine, but no one can hear him... We've upgrade the BIOS and MWave drivers, the volume controls (Windows, MWave, and the hardware knob) are all the way up, and tried everything else either of us can think of... Anyone else ever run into something similar?? Any suggestions?? Thanks, as always... Lee Stewart From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 1 16:39:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16478; Wed, 1 May 96 16:39:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14272; Wed, 1 May 1996 16:38:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 1 May 1996 16:35:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13945; Wed, 1 May 1996 16:35:10 -0400 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13928; Wed, 1 May 1996 16:35:07 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id NAA25735; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:34:46 -0700 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma830982879.025722; Wed May 1 13:34:40 1996 Received: (from perley@localhost) by cds9258.cadence.com (8.6.8/8.6.8) id NAA18238; Wed, 1 May 1996 13:34:37 -0700 From: Don Perley Message-Id: <199605012034.NAA18238@cds9258.cadence.com> Subject: Re: 755CDV Microphone Volume To: lee@rmii.com (Lee Stewart) Date: Wed, 1 May 96 13:34:37 PDT Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: ; from "Lee Stewart" at May 1, 96 1:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] > Hi... I'm working with a friend who has a 755CDV and is trying, > unsuccessfully, to use the Internet Phone software. As we've > tried different things trying to rule things out, it appears that > the problem is on the microphone input side of things. Is your internet connection via a PC card or the internal modem? While the modem is active the sound capability gets marginal to nonexistant. Have you tried the faxworks speaker phone? That worked well for me with no screwing around so should be a good test. -Don Perley From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 1 22:28:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00133; Wed, 1 May 96 22:28:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10292; Wed, 1 May 1996 22:27:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 1 May 1996 22:23:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09923; Wed, 1 May 1996 22:23:54 -0400 Received: from piglet.cc.utexas.edu (root@piglet.cc.utexas.edu [128.83.108.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09917; Wed, 1 May 1996 22:23:52 -0400 Received: from slip-80-1.ots.utexas.edu (slip-80-1.ots.utexas.edu [128.83.219.1]) by piglet.cc.utexas.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11/cc-wf-solaris.mc-1.2) with SMTP id VAA26362 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 21:23:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 21:23:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199605020223.VAA26362@piglet.cc.utexas.edu> X-Sender: pekka@bashful.cc.utexas.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: "Pekka(la)" Subject: 701CS Battery life? After following discussion on this list for a month now, I'm just wondering if there is TP701C/CS users who have the NiMh battery. How long can you work with it? I've used to 3+ hours with my current laptop without any power management, so the less than 2 hours promised for 701's NiCd battery doesn't sound very good. One more question. Can you adjust the speed of the procesor as a part of the power management system? And does it work properly, since the APM seems to be more or less unstabile in most laptops. Screen won't blank every time it should, computer doesn't hibernate/go to standby always, HD doesn't spin down etc. problems. If this sounds totally irrelevant for this list, reply me directly. Thanks in advance for information, because the user mailing lists seem to be the best way for decent information. PC magazines and such seem to be afraid to say anything bad about the computers they test, because they would stop getting free stuff from the companies... BTW, I didn't say it was a suprise that TP701 would be soon a discontinued model. I just remember what happened to Compaq Contura Aero prices last December, when it was announced OFFICIALLY as a discontinued model. J&R Computer World in NY bought the entire stock of Aero's from Compaq and started to sell it about 30% cheaper than any other store/mail order company around. The prices dropped from $1399 to $999 everywhere. Just wondering if Big Blue is doing the same thing with TP701's ;-). ###################################################### Same-sex marriages. 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At 9:23 PM 5/1/96, Pekka(la) wrote: >After following discussion on this list for a month now, I'm just wondering >if there is TP701C/CS users who have the NiMh battery. How long can you work >with it? I've used to 3+ hours with my current laptop without any power >management, so the less than 2 hours promised for 701's NiCd battery doesn't >sound very good. I get 2:30 with non-stop use. I don't believe in this 8 hour crap because nobody just types for 2 minutes and then lets the machine sit in suspend for 2 hours, types for another 10 minutes and calls it "2 hours and 12 minutes of run time". >One more question. Can you adjust the speed of the procesor as a part of the >power management system? And does it work properly, since the APM seems to >be more or less unstabile in most laptops. Screen won't blank every time it >should, computer doesn't hibernate/go to standby always, HD doesn't spin >down etc. problems. Mine seems to work quite perfectly to the settings I tell it to. One thing I like is the processor speed function--runs full bore when you're doing stuff, cuts down to zilch when you're not. Never did like the idea of running a 33 MHz processor at 8 MHz--like the idea even less with a 75 MHz processor. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche --is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 2 09:17:08 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24581; Thu, 2 May 96 09:17:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26900; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:16:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 2 May 1996 09:07:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26132; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:07:44 -0400 Received: from sabine.acs.psu.edu (sabine.acs.psu.edu [146.186.165.68]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26126; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:07:42 -0400 Message-Id: <199605021307.JAA26126@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by sabine.acs.psu.edu (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA03558; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:07:30 -0400 From: Brian Katz Subject: Auto-Hibernate on Low power To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu (thinkpad) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 09:07:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As a test, I set the bios on my 701 to go into hibernate mode when the power is low, incase I forget what I am doing and leave it running for a time. I let the power go, but always kept the machine in view. When the power go VERY low, the screen switched to teh hibiernate screen, BUT then came up with an error message saying "not enough power to hibernate". This is ridiculous. Has anyone had or solved this problem? -Brian -- Acoustics Department ................................. katz@sabine.acs.psu.edu Penn State University ..................... http://www.acs.psu.edu/users/katz/ State College, PA 16802 ................................. (814)863-9832 Office USA ..................................................... (814)865-3119 Fax From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 2 09:43:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25760; Thu, 2 May 96 09:43:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29414; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:43:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 2 May 1996 09:42:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29319; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:42:00 -0400 Received: from vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29313; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:41:58 -0400 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id JAA08404; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:38:06 -0400 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA1323; Thu, 02 May 96 09:37:46 -0700 Message-Id: <9605021637.AA1323@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id F036A78DE18096778525631E0049DA01; Thu, 2 May 96 09:37:40 EDT To: Lee Stewart Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 2 May 96 9:33:49 EDT Subject: Re: 755CDV Microphone Volume X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "...to use the Internet Phone software. As we've tried different things trying to rule things out, it appears that the problem is on the microphone input side of things. ...he can hear fine, but no one can hear him..." ~~~~~ i've seen this problem numerous times with first installations of the internet phone. it's usually the first time someone has used a microphone. for some reason, the default device input level for the microphone in both mwave and sb software is all the way down. this default carries over into the win95 multimedia settings. it's a stupid default if you ask me, but it always seems to be the case, so maybe there's some reason i don't know about. it is also the default for the mic level to not appear in the program, so you have to add it into the view to adjust it. in your program group, open 'volume control,' click on 'properties' in the 'options' menu, and select 'mic' in the list at the bottom. you'll probably find that the mic level is all the way down. raise it to the same level as everything else & make sure 'mute' is not checked. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons. --Popular Mechanics, 1949 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 2 10:19:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27127; Thu, 2 May 96 10:19:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02763; Thu, 2 May 1996 10:18:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 2 May 1996 10:17:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02553; Thu, 2 May 1996 10:17:21 -0400 Received: from vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02547; Thu, 2 May 1996 10:17:19 -0400 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id KAA10183; Thu, 2 May 1996 10:13:21 -0400 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA1408; Thu, 02 May 96 10:13:01 -0700 Message-Id: <9605021713.AA1408@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id FBCA5AA00B9884198525631E004D6442; Thu, 2 May 96 10:13:01 EDT To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 2 May 96 10:08:03 EDT Subject: Re: 755CDV Microphone Volume X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "...it's usually the first time someone has used a microphone." i didn't mean that in a condescending way. what i meant is that it's usually the first time a microphone has been added that audio device. sorry about that :-) Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons. --Popular Mechanics, 1949 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 2 11:52:53 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00207; Thu, 2 May 96 11:52:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11900; Thu, 2 May 1996 11:51:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 2 May 1996 11:47:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11568; Thu, 2 May 1996 11:47:56 -0400 Received: from lugs.org.sg (root@[203.127.221.100]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11547; Thu, 2 May 1996 11:47:49 -0400 Received: by lugs.org.sg (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0uF0gn-0002J6C; Thu, 2 May 96 23:53 SST Received: (from elvintan@localhost) by dupre.lugs.org.sg (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA00174; Thu, 2 May 1996 23:47:40 +0800 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 23:47:40 +0800 (SGT) From: Elvin To: Brian Katz Cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: Auto-Hibernate on Low power In-Reply-To: <199605021307.JAA26126@CS.UTK.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 May 1996, Brian Katz wrote: > As a test, I set the bios on my 701 to go into hibernate mode when the > power is low, incase I forget what I am doing and leave it running for > a time. I let the power go, but always kept the machine in view. When > the power go VERY low, the screen switched to teh hibiernate screen, > BUT then came up with an error message saying "not enough power to > hibernate". This is ridiculous. Has anyone had or solved this problem? I get this problem too, there is never enuf energy to hibernate once the power is low. This problem occurs most when I use a NiMH battery, my NiCad gives safer performance when battery low. Elvin +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | elvintan@dupre.lugs.org.sg Finger alf@pacific.net.sg for PGP Public key | | Public Key fingerprint - 2C F5 0A A6 61 A9 3C 1B DE E4 48 2F F8 34 37 B0 | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 2 11:54:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00230; Thu, 2 May 96 11:54:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12359; Thu, 2 May 1996 11:53:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 2 May 1996 11:51:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11907; Thu, 2 May 1996 11:51:09 -0400 Received: from spiff.chem.utah.edu (spiff.chem.utah.edu [128.110.196.102]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11892; Thu, 2 May 1996 11:51:06 -0400 Received: (from edwards@localhost) by spiff.chem.utah.edu (8.7.4/8.7.4-spiff-) id JAA01071; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:50:54 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 09:50:54 -0600 (MDT) From: Dennis Edwards Message-Id: <199605021550.JAA01071@spiff.chem.utah.edu> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Linux problem on a TP701cs... Cc: edwards@spiff.chem.utah.edu X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII All: I've used my TP701cs, 16Mb, 720Mb disk. 3Com 3C589C network card, for about a month now, and am mostly quite pleased with the total performance and utility IBM placed in this little package... However, twice I've encountered a problem with Linux (apologies to those that don't use Linux...). The installation and configuring of Linux Slackware is fairly straightforward, and I've been successfully running for about 3 weeks now, including X. But now, when the system boots it never gives a login prompt. The display goes though the usual bootup messages and then freezes at this point: >Adding Swap: 44388k swap space Ctl-Alt-Del will reboot, and during the freeze there is some disk activity - probably update is working. DOS will boot up fine. The first time this happened, rebuilding linux solved the problem; I attributed the first failure to infamiliarity with the system and thought I just screwed something up, and wanted to rebuilt the system anyway. Now, I'm less happy with the prospect of a system rebuild, and the failure seemed to have no traceable cause. Has anyone experenced this problem? Is there a fix? The backup boot floppy of the kernel I made during installation has the same problem. I have booted the rescue disk, and can mount the hard drive, but I don't know where to look at this point. Thanks in advance for your help. - Dennis Dennis Edwards Currently Servicing 5.27GHZ of NMR NMR Support Services edwards@chemistry.utah.edu University of Utah TEL (801) 581-4208 Department of Chemistry FAX (801) 581-8433 Salt Lake City, Utah 84112 USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 2 12:43:12 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04004; Thu, 2 May 96 12:43:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18178; Thu, 2 May 1996 12:41:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 2 May 1996 12:39:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17844; Thu, 2 May 1996 12:39:24 -0400 Received: from vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17838; Thu, 2 May 1996 12:39:21 -0400 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id MAA19900; Thu, 2 May 1996 12:35:27 -0400 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA1665; Thu, 02 May 96 12:35:08 -0700 Message-Id: <9605021935.AA1665@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id E9F601A947F2F8748525631E005AD964; Thu, 2 May 96 12:35:08 EDT To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 2 May 96 12:33:44 EDT Subject: linux boot/root-- 1st install X-Lotus-Type: Memo w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain can anyone suggest a particular flavor of boot/root disks to use to install slackware on my 755cd? i've tried bare, abare & aaztcd boot disks from www.nectec.or.th & i get a kernel panic as soon as i pop in the root disk. this is so basic i'm almost embarrassed to post it, but i've read the entire contents of the sites people forwarded to me (http://peipa.essex.ac.uk/tp-linux/tp-linx ux.html and http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/) and i can't get past inse rting the root disk. i used the 'floppy=thinkpad' advice, but the boot disks require it in the form of either 'ramdisk floppy=thinkpad,' 'drive2 floppy=thinkpad,' (which doesn't apply) or 'mount floppy=thinkpad.' i'm told i should be using ramdisk, but i tried the others just to see. same thing every time: 'Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 02:1c' anyone? Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons. --Popular Mechanics, 1949 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 3 02:59:36 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20616; Fri, 3 May 96 02:59:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24796; Fri, 3 May 1996 02:58:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 3 May 1996 02:53:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24480; Fri, 3 May 1996 02:53:37 -0400 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24474; Fri, 3 May 1996 02:53:35 -0400 Received: from freefall.FreeBSD.ORG by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA10197; Fri, 3 May 1996 02:53:33 -0400 Received: (from hsu@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA05201 Thu, 2 May 1996 23:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 23:53:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeffrey Hsu Message-Id: <199605030653.XAA05201@freefall.freebsd.org> To: edwards@spiff.chem.utah.edu Subject: Re: Linux problem on a TP701cs... Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu > However, twice I've encountered a problem with Linux (apologies to > Has anyone experenced this problem? Is there a fix? I suggest you try FreeBSD. I just helped a friend install FreeBSD on his ThinkPad 701CS and it works great. Check out http://www.freebsd.org for more information. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 3 12:52:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14357; Fri, 3 May 96 12:52:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22947; Fri, 3 May 1996 12:51:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 3 May 1996 12:42:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22228; Fri, 3 May 1996 12:42:29 -0400 Received: from next.agsm.ucla.edu (next.agsm.ucla.edu [164.67.164.164]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22220; Fri, 3 May 1996 12:42:25 -0400 Received: by next.agsm.ucla.edu (NX5.67g/NeXT-1.0(KJW-19Apr90)) id AA01466; Fri, 3 May 96 09:42:10 -0700 Message-Id: <9605031642.AA01466@next.agsm.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.0 v141) Content-Type: text/plain Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.141) From: Ivo Welch Date: Fri, 3 May 96 09:42:09 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 755cd linux installation Reply-To: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu > However, twice I've encountered a problem with Linux (apologies to > Has anyone experenced this problem? Is there a fix? + I suggest you try FreeBSD. I just helped a friend install FreeBSD + on his ThinkPad 701CS and it works great. Check out + http://www.freebsd.org for more information. Actually, I think the 755cd is "different." SLS installed out of the box on my 755cX. I am not sure which boot disk I used (color or mono), but I just selected an IDE one and it worked. You may want to consider installing via a friend's 755cx (or other IBM Thinkpad) system onto your removable hard disk. /ivo welch From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 3 14:29:00 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20437; Fri, 3 May 96 14:29:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01234; Fri, 3 May 1996 14:26:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 3 May 1996 14:24:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00845; Fri, 3 May 1996 14:24:27 -0400 Received: from hoover.stanford.edu (hoover.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.99]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00838; Fri, 3 May 1996 14:24:25 -0400 Received: from tip-mp20-ncs-12.Stanford.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #13307) id <01I49MV50HY8004G0M@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Fri, 03 May 1996 11:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 10:29:33 -0700 From: "Dennis L. Bark" Subject: Using MWave in Europe To: mwave@watson.mbb.sfu.ca Cc: bark@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU, tp750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <318A427D.4A8A@hoover.stanford.edu> Organization: Hoover Institution Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Url: http://watson.mbb.sfu.ca/ 1) Is is possible to connect with MWave in France? ...and How? Thus far, no MWave telephony software is available from IBM (although it is available for most other European countries). 2) What do I need to do to connect internationally using the MWave modum? Even the people at IBM Communications were not sure whether the telephony software and simple cable adapters would be sufficient. 3) Does the MWave software impliment low-pass-filtering to filter out the "toll pulses" on German phones? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 3 21:14:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08290; Fri, 3 May 96 21:14:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04942; Fri, 3 May 1996 21:13:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 3 May 1996 21:09:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04604; Fri, 3 May 1996 21:09:13 -0400 Received: from pdx.oneworld.com (iceberg.pdx.oneworld.com [204.87.185.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04594; Fri, 3 May 1996 21:09:04 -0400 Received: by pdx.oneworld.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0uFVph-000hpaC; Fri, 3 May 96 18:08 PDT Received: from lscsjc.lattice.com by lscc.lattice.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uFVl3-000SIwC; Fri, 3 May 96 18:03 PDT Received: from joshua.poker by lscsjc.lattice.com (4.1/LSC-SM-1.1) id AA23499; Fri, 3 May 96 18:03:39 PDT Date: Fri, 3 May 96 18:03:39 PDT From: cmoon@lscsjc.lattice.com (Cho Moon) Message-Id: <9605040103.AA23499@lscsjc.lattice.com> Received: by joshua.poker (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08558; Fri, 3 May 96 18:03:41 PDT To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: support@rahul.net Subject: Dial-Up Networking for TP701CS Hello, I'm trying to use Win95's Dial-Up Networking tool to connect my TP701CS to an internet service provider (a2i). The IBM internal modem dials the ISP, verifies the user name and password, but fails after printing the following message: Dial-up Networking could not negotiate a compatible set of network protocols you specified in the Server Type settings. Check your network configuration in the Control Panel then try the connection again. I get exactly the same message on a 3Com modem, so it doesn't seem like an IBM modem problem. My "Server Type" setting for the dial-up connection is as follows: Type of Server: PPP Advanced options: Log on to network, Enable SW compression Allowed network protocols: TCP/IP TCP/IP Setting: (Specify an IP address, Server assigned name server addresses, use IP header compression, use default gateway) My "Network" setting in "Control Panel" looks as follows: o Client for MS Networks o 3Com EtherLink III LAN+Modem (bound to TCP/IP) o Dial-up Adapter (bound to TCP/IP, IPX header compression on) o TCP/IP => 3COM Etherlink III (static IP address is specified) o TCP/IP => Dial-up Adapter (same static IP address is specified) Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. Cho Moon | Cho W. Moon | | Lattice Semiconductor, 1820 McCarthy Blvd., Milpitas, CA 95035-7425 | | (408) 428-6400x250 (voice) (408) 944-8444 (fax) cmoon@lattice.com (e-mail) | From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 3 22:18:00 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11416; Fri, 3 May 96 22:18:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09495; Fri, 3 May 1996 22:17:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 3 May 1996 22:15:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09300; Fri, 3 May 1996 22:15:22 -0400 Received: from suba01.suba.com (suba01.suba.com [198.87.202.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09290; Fri, 3 May 1996 22:15:16 -0400 Received: from dial04.suba.com (dial04.suba.com [198.87.202.131]) by suba01.suba.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id VAA17816 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 21:15:12 -0500 From: epbrown@suba.com (Emanuel Brown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: PCMCIA Drive Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 02:18:30 GMT Keywords: Rosebud? Organization: My ISP, who else? Message-Id: <318abdb9.176419@mail.suba.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/16.227 Anyone else using one of these with a 701? I got one today and it seems a little buggy...Sometimes is only reads for 10MB, other times the full 131. When I have the card installed and start up File Manager, it hangs for several seconds and doesn't recognize the directory for the drive. Popping the drive and re-inserting makes it OK, but I'd prefer it to be a little more stable. Also, the drive won't format. I bought this used without any manuals or diagnostics. Any tips? Thanks in advance, Emanuel epbrown@suba.com laptop central: www.suba.com/~epbrown/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 4 05:33:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19146; Sat, 4 May 96 05:33:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA13074; Sat, 4 May 1996 05:32:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 4 May 1996 05:28:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA11704; Sat, 4 May 1996 05:28:23 -0400 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (fub46.fddi1.fu-berlin.de [160.45.1.46]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA11674; Sat, 4 May 1996 05:28:16 -0400 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Sat, 4 May 1996 11:27:58 +0200 (MES) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: Using MWave in Europe... To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 11:27:58 +0200 (MES) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text There is no problem with using the mwave modem in Germany apart from the fact that the (US) modem blocks the line: if you connect both a telephone set and the modem to the same line (in most cases there is a so-called NFN-socket) then the modem prevents the phone from accessing the line... > > 2) What do I need to do to connect internationally using the MWave > modum? Even the people at IBM Communications were not sure whether the > telephony software and simple cable adapters would be sufficient. > This is not an answer to your question but: It's just a few lines that have toll pulses: if you want to have them you got to spend some extra money. Therefore most people don't have it... > 3) Does the MWave software impliment low-pass-filtering to filter out > the "toll pulses" on German phones? > Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 4 11:01:26 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23202; Sat, 4 May 96 11:01:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05994; Sat, 4 May 1996 11:00:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 4 May 1996 10:55:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05726; Sat, 4 May 1996 10:55:46 -0400 Received: from husc.harvard.edu (root@husc.harvard.edu [140.247.30.45]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05708; Sat, 4 May 1996 10:55:43 -0400 Received: from pop2.fas.HARVARD.EDU by husc.harvard.edu with ESMTP id KAA24008; Sat, 4 May 1996 10:56:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from deathstar by pop2.fas.HARVARD.EDU with SMTP id KAA05779; Sat, 4 May 1996 10:55:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960504145212.0090914c@pop.fas.harvard.edu> X-Sender: chan4@pop.fas.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 10:52:12 -0400 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Derek V. Chan" Subject: Audio for NT! (yes yes yes!) Hey all! I just heard on the microsoft support newsgroup at msnews.microsoft.com that the Compaq Business Audio driver works for NT (for the Thinkpad 750 series)! Later! __ Derek V. Chan | PGP Fingerprint: CB C4 65 BA 04 04 9C 9A chan4@fas.harvard.edu | FF DE 71 81 83 21 45 6B dchan@cybercom.net) | Finger either address for PGP public key. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 4 11:13:15 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23291; Sat, 4 May 96 11:13:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06963; Sat, 4 May 1996 11:12:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 4 May 1996 11:11:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06757; Sat, 4 May 1996 11:11:20 -0400 Received: from is.nyu.edu (root@IS.NYU.EDU [128.122.250.19]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06751; Sat, 4 May 1996 11:11:14 -0400 Received: from KLENNER.NR.RES.NYU.EDU by is.nyu.edu; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/23Sep94-1121PM) id AA27807; Sat, 4 May 1996 11:11:04 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960504151104.0068371c@is.nyu.edu> X-Sender: mdk1143@is.nyu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 11:11:04 -0400 To: "Derek V. Chan" From: Michael Klenner Subject: Re: Audio for NT! (yes yes yes!) Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu At 10:52 AM 5/4/96 -0400, you wrote: >Hey all! I just heard on the microsoft support newsgroup at >msnews.microsoft.com that the Compaq Business Audio driver works for NT (for >the Thinkpad 750 series)! Anybody care to verify this in practice before I tear out '95 and go to NT4.0? --- Michael Klenner East: klennerm@is.nyu.edu New York University West: mklenner@pacificnet.net Tisch School of the Arts http://pages.nyu.edu/~mdk1143 Institute of Film & Television talk: michael@24frames.com --- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 4 11:26:28 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23552; Sat, 4 May 96 11:26:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07900; Sat, 4 May 1996 11:25:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 4 May 1996 11:24:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07717; Sat, 4 May 1996 11:24:17 -0400 Received: from husc.harvard.edu (root@husc.harvard.edu [140.247.30.45]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07701; Sat, 4 May 1996 11:24:14 -0400 Received: from pop1.fas.HARVARD.EDU by husc.harvard.edu with ESMTP id LAA27255; Sat, 4 May 1996 11:24:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from deathstar by pop1.fas.HARVARD.EDU with SMTP id LAA15799; Sat, 4 May 1996 11:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960504152048.008d11e4@pop.fas.harvard.edu> X-Sender: chan4@pop.fas.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 11:20:48 -0400 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Derek V. Chan" Subject: Grrrr sorry about the previous post...looks like it is for the _PC_750 not the TP750 series....sorry about the screwup __ Derek V. Chan | PGP Fingerprint: CB C4 65 BA 04 04 9C 9A chan4@fas.harvard.edu | FF DE 71 81 83 21 45 6B dchan@cybercom.net) | Finger either address for PGP public key. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 4 13:03:11 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24909; Sat, 4 May 96 13:03:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13295; Sat, 4 May 1996 13:02:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 4 May 1996 12:54:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12722; Sat, 4 May 1996 12:53:59 -0400 Received: from cs.vassar.edu (cssun0.vassar.edu [143.229.1.31]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12716; Sat, 4 May 1996 12:53:56 -0400 Received: from cssun3 (cssun3.vassar.edu) by cs.vassar.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00963; Sat, 4 May 96 12:53:39 EDT From: manning@cs.vassar.edu (Joseph Manning) Received: by cssun3 (4.1) id AA24844; Sat, 4 May 96 12:53:55 EDT Date: Sat, 4 May 96 12:53:55 EDT Subject: [TIP] : sharper xdvi under Linux on ThinkPads To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: manning@cs.vassar.edu Message-Id: A tip that I thought worth passing along ... If you run xdvi under Linux on a ThinkPad, and the displayed text looks a little blue-gray and fuzzy, then try putting the line: xdvi.gamma : 2.0 into your .Xdefaults file. Then type "xrdb .Xdefaults" and try xdvi again. It made a substantial difference for me, as the text is now darker and sharper. I'm running RedHat "Picasso" Linux on a SVGA TP755CX, but this fix may be applicable to other configurations as well. Hope that helps someone! Cheers, Joseph -- Joseph Manning / Computer Science / Vassar College / manning@cs.vassar.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 4 14:28:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27261; Sat, 4 May 96 14:28:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18263; Sat, 4 May 1996 14:27:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 4 May 1996 14:25:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17783; Sat, 4 May 1996 14:25:03 -0400 Received: from maple.grove.iup.edu (SYSTEM@maple.grove.iup.edu [144.80.128.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17763; Sat, 4 May 1996 14:25:01 -0400 Received: from grove.iup.edu by grove.iup.edu (PMDF V5.0-6 #2467) id <01I4B79TYFRK8Y5JT1@grove.iup.edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 04 May 1996 14:24:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 14:20:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark J Strawcutter Subject: portable printer recommendation wanted To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01I4B7GMPIUG8Y5JT1@grove.iup.edu> Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania X-Envelope-To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I'm looking for a portable printer to use with my 755CD. The only thing I've run across so far is a Canon BJC-70. I don't really need the color. Recommendations, including pointers to other information sources, appriciated. ---------- Mark J Strawcutter Internet: mjstraw@grove.iup.edu Director, Systems and Communications BITNET: MJSTRAW@IUP Indiana University of Pennsylvania Voice: (412) 357-4007 Indiana, PA 15705 "you can't nail jello to a tree" From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 4 19:26:56 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04233; Sat, 4 May 96 19:26:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06524; Sat, 4 May 1996 19:26:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 4 May 1996 19:23:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06290; Sat, 4 May 1996 19:23:06 -0400 Received: from Fe3.rust.net (Fe3.rust.net [204.157.12.254]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA06284; Sat, 4 May 1996 19:22:50 -0400 Received: from liv-13.rust.net (liv-13.rust.net [206.42.195.113]) by Fe3.rust.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA04161; Sat, 4 May 1996 19:22:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 19:22:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960504192256.47cfed88@rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: PCMCIA DRIVE From:epbrown@suba.com (Emanuel Brown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: PCMCIA Drive Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 02:18:30 GMT Keywords: Rosebud? Organization: My ISP, who else? Anyone else using one of these with a 701? I got one today and it seems a little buggy...Sometimes is only reads for 10MB, other times the full 131. When I have the card installed and start up File Manager, it hangs for several seconds and doesn't recognize the directory for the drive. Popping the drive and re-inserting makes it OK, but I'd prefer it to be a little more stable. Also, the drive won't format. I bought this used without any manuals or diagnostics. Any tips? Thanks in advance, Emanuel epbrown@suba.com laptop central: www.suba.com/~epbrown/ --------------------------------------------- The first thing to do is upgrade you BIOS which is currently 3o. Then upgrade your PCMCIA drivers to current level. Start with the file 701_TIPS.TXT. All of these files are available from IBM personal software library http://www.pcco.ibm.com/files.html B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan, Livonia, MI - billb@rust.net - N8QPI - www.rust.net/~billb Who would cross the Bridge of Death must answer me these questions three ere the other side he see." Bridgekeeper, Holy Grail =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 4 19:53:50 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04869; Sat, 4 May 96 19:53:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07481; Sat, 4 May 1996 19:53:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 4 May 1996 19:52:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07391; Sat, 4 May 1996 19:52:16 -0400 Received: from suba01.suba.com (suba01.suba.com [198.87.202.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07384; Sat, 4 May 1996 19:52:14 -0400 Received: from dial40.suba.com (dial40.suba.com [198.87.202.167]) by suba01.suba.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id SAA25755 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 18:52:11 -0500 From: epbrown@suba.com (Emanuel Brown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: PCMCIA DRIVE Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 23:55:30 GMT Keywords: Rosebud? Organization: My ISP, who else? Message-Id: <318becf1.1884586@mail.suba.com> References: <2.2.16.19960504192256.47cfed88@rust.net> In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19960504192256.47cfed88@rust.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/16.227 Thanks to everyone who emailed advice. It turned out I needed the atado200.exe file, which has lots of utuilities for PC Card drives. Windows still loses the drive during hibernation and suspend, but I suspect that's a problem with drivers since I often had to re-insert my modem when I had a card model. I'm still playing around with the files, but it added a line to my config.sys that's apparently gotten things working. Emanuel epbrown@suba.com laptop central: www.suba.com/~epbrown/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 4 23:40:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12133; Sat, 4 May 96 23:40:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24141; Sat, 4 May 1996 23:39:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 4 May 1996 23:36:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23829; Sat, 4 May 1996 23:36:35 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23823; Sat, 4 May 1996 23:36:31 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #4) id m0uFuZn-000KhvC; Sat, 4 May 96 21:33 MDT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960505033508.00c17198@[166.93.8.14]> X-Sender: ssh@[166.93.8.14] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 21:35:08 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Steve Hultquist Subject: 755CX hard drives in 760ED? Anyone have any idea if the 760ED hard drive is the same as the CX? Advthanksance, ssh -- Steve Hultquist Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Web, Internet, LANs, WANs, Routing, Switching, Unix, PCs, NT, 95, OS/2 Specialists in temporary and demonstration environments http://www.wwsi.com/ 303.581.0800 Boulder, Colorado, USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 4 23:40:27 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12139; Sat, 4 May 96 23:40:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24136; Sat, 4 May 1996 23:39:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 4 May 1996 23:36:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23847; Sat, 4 May 1996 23:36:44 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23837; Sat, 4 May 1996 23:36:36 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #4) id m0uFuZp-000KhyC; Sat, 4 May 96 21:33 MDT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960505033510.00c30304@[166.93.8.14]> X-Sender: ssh@[166.93.8.14] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 21:35:10 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Steve Hultquist Subject: 760ED status update Received e-mail from NECX (http://www.necx.com/) that current ETA from IBM is 16 May for the 760ED. I'll let you know! Cheers, ssh -- Steve Hultquist Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Web, Internet, LANs, WANs, Routing, Switching, Unix, PCs, NT, 95, OS/2 Specialists in temporary and demonstration environments http://www.wwsi.com/ 303.581.0800 Boulder, Colorado, USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 5 04:36:57 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02766; Sun, 5 May 96 04:36:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA17232; Sun, 5 May 1996 04:35:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sun, 5 May 1996 04:31:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA16851; Sun, 5 May 1996 04:31:39 -0400 Received: from tuna.mit.edu (TUNA.MIT.EDU [18.250.0.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA16844; Sun, 5 May 1996 04:31:35 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) id EAA00766; Sun, 5 May 1996 04:31:49 -0400 Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 04:31:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: Joseph Manning Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: [TIP] : sharper xdvi under Linux on ThinkPads In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 4 May 1996, Joseph Manning wrote: > If you run xdvi under Linux on a ThinkPad, and the displayed text > looks a little blue-gray and fuzzy, then try putting the line: > > xdvi.gamma : 2.0 > > into your .Xdefaults file. Then type "xrdb .Xdefaults" and try > xdvi again. It made a substantial difference for me, as the text > is now darker and sharper. A little trivia that might come in handy for you graphics types. I tried calibrating my 701's TFT gamma by eye. It's not exact because the gamma changes with viewing angle, but when the screen is perpendicular to your line of sight, the gamma is around 2.0-2.1. So if the 755CX's TFT is similar, the above xdvi option is making things look as they should. Don't ask me to explain what gamma is. Go look at: http://photo.net/photo/fixing-gamma.html -- John H. Kim "I don't want to go there today." jokim@mit.edu - overheard outside the Microsoft booth at jokim@tuna.mit.edu Internet World '95 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 5 10:19:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07037; Sun, 5 May 96 10:19:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11602; Sun, 5 May 1996 10:17:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sun, 5 May 1996 10:13:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11331; Sun, 5 May 1996 10:13:47 -0400 Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11324; Sun, 5 May 1996 10:13:43 -0400 Received: from visago.pacific.net.sg ([203.120.81.225]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA16295 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 22:13:35 +0800 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960505141242.006bf350@pacific.net.sg> X-Sender: skat@pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 05 May 1996 22:12:42 +0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: skat@pacific.net.sg (Sam King ) Subject: Re: portable printer recommendation wanted At 02:20 PM 5/4/96 -0400, you wrote: >I'm looking for a portable printer to use with my 755CD. The only thing I've >run across so far is a Canon BJC-70. I don't really need the color. > >Recommendations, including pointers to other information sources, appriciated. There is the Canon BJ-30, which is a black and white version of the BJC70 sam -Email skat@pacific.net.sg-------------------- -^^^Introducing.. The Invisible Signature!^^^- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 5 15:15:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14404; Sun, 5 May 96 15:15:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00569; Sun, 5 May 1996 15:14:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sun, 5 May 1996 15:05:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29742; Sun, 5 May 1996 15:05:56 -0400 Received: from gemini.adnc.com (gemini.adnc.com [205.216.138.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29685; Sun, 5 May 1996 15:05:43 -0400 Received: from adnline839.adnc.com by gemini.adnc.com (SMI-8.6/SVR4 Mailer ADN 1/96) id MAA11796; Sun, 5 May 1996 12:05:47 -0700 Received: by adnline839.adnc.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BB3A7B.5B5C88C0@adnline839.adnc.com>; Sun, 5 May 1996 12:06:57 -0700 Message-Id: <01BB3A7B.5B5C88C0@adnline839.adnc.com> From: Joshua Gerber To: "'Cho Moon'" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Cc: "support@rahul.net" Subject: RE: Dial-Up Networking for TP701CS Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 12:06:53 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Friday, May 03, 1996 6:03 PM, Cho Moon[SMTP:cmoon@lscsjc.lattice.com] = wrote: >Hello, > >I'm trying to use Win95's Dial-Up Networking tool to connect my >TP701CS to an internet service provider (a2i). The IBM internal modem >dials the ISP, verifies the user name and password, but fails after >printing the following message: > >Dial-up Networking could not negotiate a compatible set of network >protocols you specified in the Server Type settings. Check your >network configuration in the Control Panel then try the connection >again. Go to your network control panel, select TCP/IP-->DialUp adapter, select = Properties, then the Advanced tab, then check off "Set this protocol to = be the default protocol". That should do it. -j From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 5 20:16:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20976; Sun, 5 May 96 20:16:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16865; Sun, 5 May 1996 20:16:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sun, 5 May 1996 20:12:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16653; Sun, 5 May 1996 20:12:48 -0400 Received: from homebase (root@homebase.citilink.com [204.246.107.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16646; Sun, 5 May 1996 20:12:42 -0400 Received: from tclbbs.com (tclbbs.com [204.246.107.4]) by homebase (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA15857 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 19:14:31 -0500 Posted-Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 19:14:31 -0500 Received: from tclmail by bbsnet with UUCP ; Sun, 05 May 96 18:11:33 EDT Received: by tclbbs.com (wcGATE v4) id 40957W Sun, 5 May 1996 19:05:07 GMT From: brian.skunberg@tclbbs.com (Brian Skunberg) Subject: mailing list Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 19:03:28 GMT Message-Id: <96050519050713752@tclbbs.com> Organization: The City Lights BBS To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu thinkpad users mailing list From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 6 07:14:30 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05091; Mon, 6 May 96 07:14:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05664; Mon, 6 May 1996 07:13:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 6 May 1996 07:09:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05326; Mon, 6 May 1996 07:09:20 -0400 Received: from unix1.sysnet.net (root@[206.142.32.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05319; Mon, 6 May 1996 07:09:11 -0400 Received: from forte.sysnet.net (ppp2.sysnet.net [206.142.16.21]) by unix1.sysnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA25465 for < thinkpad@cs.utk.edu>; Mon, 6 May 1996 07:22:09 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 07:22:09 -0400 Message-Id: <199605061122.HAA25465@unix1.sysnet.net> X-Sender: forte@unix1.sysnet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: :@unix1.sysnet.net From: "Patrick A. Forte" Subject: Battery Gauge Can anyone give me clue why my battery gauge on my 701C stopped working? Everything else is fine including the battery holding a charge. The gauge is now grey and reads 0% and 0.00. What can I do to "re-set" the gauge. Thanks for any help. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 6 10:24:57 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08343; Mon, 6 May 96 10:24:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20830; Mon, 6 May 1996 10:22:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 6 May 1996 10:17:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20361; Mon, 6 May 1996 10:17:16 -0400 Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com (emout13.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.39]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20354; Mon, 6 May 1996 10:17:13 -0400 From: Received: by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA15918; Mon, 6 May 1996 10:16:38 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 10:16:38 -0400 Message-Id: <960506101636_288090020@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: skat@pacific.net.sg, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: portable printer recommendation wanted BJC-70 is great and I hardly ever use the color either. VEry reliable, great paper handling. Only thing is the ink supply is small, even with the black only cartridge loaded. When I had a problem, Cannon transhipped me another printer which I had the next day.. Great service! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 6 11:27:59 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11479; Mon, 6 May 96 11:27:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27004; Mon, 6 May 1996 11:27:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 6 May 1996 11:24:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26730; Mon, 6 May 1996 11:24:41 -0400 Received: from vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26722; Mon, 6 May 1996 11:24:37 -0400 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id LAA09972; Mon, 6 May 1996 11:20:36 -0400 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0586; Mon, 06 May 96 11:20:13 -0700 Message-Id: <9605061820.AA0586@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id 8E02C1F73507AA9285256322005262B2; Mon, 6 May 96 11:20:04 EDT To: Cho Moon Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 6 May 96 11:19:56 EDT Subject: Re: Dial-Up Networking for TP701CS X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "...I'm trying to use Win95's Dial-Up Networking tool to connect my TP701CS to an internet service provider (a2i). The IBM internal modem dials the ISP, verifies the user name and password, but fails after printing the following message: Dial-up Networking could not negotiate a compatible set of network protocols you specified in the Server Type settings. Check your network configuration in the Control Panel then try the connection again. I get exactly the same message on a 3Com modem, so it doesn't seem like an IBM modem problem...." ~~~~~ i saw the exact same thing on three 755cd's and a cse. it was a win95 registry problem, not a network configuration one. i paid 35 helpware dollars to ibm (after several hours of tracking down someone willing to take my money) for an incomplete set of instructions on how to fix it. i had to fill in a few blanks to get it to work, but this is basically it: 1) make sure you've done the bios upgrade, thinkpad utility (v3.10 or better) upgrade & mwave upgrade. 2) boot to cmos & reinitialize the system board. 3) open 'infrared' icon & make sure it's disabled. 4) open 'serial' icon & make sure serial port b is disabled, & that serial port a is enabled on com1. 5) open 'dsp' icon & make sure dsp is enabled & telephony is set to com2. 6) in device manager, remove all communications ports (com and lpt) from all configurations and *do not* reboot. also, remove everything under 'modem' from all configurations. 7) shut down, power off & reboot. when it finds a new device check 'install windows default driver.' the 701 may work at this point. i don't know them very well. if you have an infrared port, you'll probably need to continue. now, in device manager, if you have two ports listed as 'communications port,' apply step 8 to the second one. if you only have one listed as 'communications port,' apply step 8 to it. 8) click once on 'communications port' under 'ports' in device manager. click on 'properties' and go to the device manager tab. click on 'change driver' then select 'show all devices.' on the left, choose 'ibm' and on the right choose 'ibm thinkpad infrared port.' click 'ok' & let it reboot. 9) in control panel, add new hardware. don't let it search, choose 'ports,' then on the left choose 'standard port types' and on the right choose 'communications port' (should be the default). click next & the i/o range should read '02F8-02FF' and the irq should read '03.' (if not, cancel out, remove the 'infrared' port from device manager, reboot & go back & apply step 8 to the other 'communications port.'). *do not* reboot. 10) make sure no ports in device manager have a red x or a yellow '!' if any do, go to their properties and make sure the 'current' configuration is checked. shut down, power off & reboot. this got me through four machines successfully. hope it helps. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons. --Popular Mechanics, 1949 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 6 11:53:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11923; Mon, 6 May 96 11:53:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29413; Mon, 6 May 1996 11:51:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 6 May 1996 11:50:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29223; Mon, 6 May 1996 11:50:00 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29216; Mon, 6 May 1996 11:49:57 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #4) id m0uGSVQ-000KpiC; Mon, 6 May 96 09:47 MDT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960506154857.00c0a434@[166.93.8.14]> X-Sender: ssh@[166.93.8.14] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 06 May 1996 09:48:57 -0600 To: Michael Verne/VENTANA , Cho Moon From: Steve Hultquist Subject: Re: Dial-Up Networking for TP701CS Cc: tp750 At 11:19 AM 5/6/96 EDT, Michael Verne/VENTANA wrote: >"...I'm trying to use Win95's Dial-Up Networking tool to connect my >TP701CS to an internet service provider (a2i). The IBM internal modem >dials the ISP, verifies the user name and password, but fails after >printing the following message: >Dial-up Networking could not negotiate a compatible set of network >protocols you specified in the Server Type settings. Check your >network configuration in the Control Panel then try the connection >again. >I get exactly the same message on a 3Com modem, so it doesn't seem >like an IBM modem problem...." Do you have TCP/IP protocols set for the Dial-up adapter (in the Network section of Control Panel)? Also, check all your options there any make sure you've got things set right (either dynamic IP address or static, DNS, etc.). Cheers, ssh -- Steve Hultquist Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Web, Internet, LANs, WANs, Routing, Switching, Unix, PCs, NT, 95, OS/2 Specialists in temporary and demonstration environments http://www.wwsi.com/ 303.581.0800 Boulder, Colorado, USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 6 12:54:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16356; Mon, 6 May 96 12:54:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05909; Mon, 6 May 1996 12:53:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 6 May 1996 12:50:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05439; Mon, 6 May 1996 12:50:56 -0400 Received: from mail.ucsd.edu (ucsd.edu [132.239.254.201]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05377; Mon, 6 May 1996 12:50:35 -0400 Received: from conic.UUCP by mail.ucsd.edu; id JAA15895 sendmail 8.6.12/UCSD-2.2-sun via UUCP Mon, 6 May 1996 09:50:24 -0700 for Thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <199605061650.JAA15895@ mail.ucsd.edu> Received: from engineering/tomf by conic.loral.com (PMail+UDG PegWaf v0.31 93.10.18) id 5152 for Thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 6 May 1996 06:16:17 PST 8 PDT From: TOMF@conic.loral.com (Tom Franklin Tom Franklin) To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 06:16:16 +0000 Subject: FS: Thinkpad 540MB Hard Drive -- $320 Cc: tomf@pwa.acusd.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Organization: Loral Conic/Terracom, San Diego, CA 92123 (619) 279-0411 I have a 540 MB drive that fits the TP75x, TP360, and TP355 thinkpads. This includes the plastic case required by these models. The drive is in perfect shape, but I no longer need it since I upgraded. I'm asking $320 for the drive which includes shipping and COD. Thanks. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 6 13:08:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16838; Mon, 6 May 96 13:08:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07515; Mon, 6 May 1996 13:07:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 6 May 1996 13:06:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07372; Mon, 6 May 1996 13:06:07 -0400 Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com ([198.73.240.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07358; Mon, 6 May 1996 13:06:00 -0400 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA22440 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 6 May 1996 13:05:49 -0400 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199605061705.NAA22440@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Dock 1 and Linux? To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (ThinkPad Mailing List) Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 13:05:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recall somebody mentioned that they'd purchased a Dock 1 for use with a machine running Linux, and were wondering if Linux supported it; unfortunately, I've since deleted that message. At any rate, this is just a follow-up question: did it work? My quick perusal of the SlackWare 3.0 notes indicated that it should, but I'd like something a little more empirical :-) Thanks in advance... -- Tim Tyhurst tim@excelsior.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 6 13:27:47 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17760; Mon, 6 May 96 13:27:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10323; Mon, 6 May 1996 13:23:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 6 May 1996 13:21:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10009; Mon, 6 May 1996 13:21:31 -0400 Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09967; Mon, 6 May 1996 13:21:23 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA22802; Mon, 6 May 96 13:19:34 EDT Date: Mon, 6 May 96 13:19:34 EDT From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9605061719.AA22802@nile.gnat.com> To: TOMF@conic.loral.com, Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: FS: Thinkpad 540MB Hard Drive -- $320 Cc: tomf@pwa.acusd.edu I have found a source of brnad new 540 meg drives for the TP for $450, which sounds like a pretty good price for new drives, anyone found any lower prices on smaller drives. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 6 14:04:32 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19473; Mon, 6 May 96 14:04:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13857; Mon, 6 May 1996 14:03:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 6 May 1996 14:00:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13572; Mon, 6 May 1996 14:00:47 -0400 Received: from gatekeeper.nsc.com (gatekeeper.nsc.com [139.187.71.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13544; Mon, 6 May 1996 14:00:41 -0400 Received: from nsc.nsc.com by gatekeeper.nsc.com (5.65/fma-120691) with SMTP; id AA01343 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 6 May 96 11:00:32 -0700 Received: from berlioz.nsc.com by nsc.nsc.com (5.65/1.34) with SMTP id AA02891 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 6 May 96 11:00:31 -0700 Received: from maradona.nsc.com by berlioz.nsc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20737; Mon, 6 May 96 10:56:10 PDT Date: Mon, 6 May 96 10:56:10 PDT From: wmng@berlioz.nsc.com (William Ng) Message-Id: <9605061756.AA20737@berlioz.nsc.com> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: tp755cx removable floppy Hi all, I have a TP755CX which has a removable floppy drive. I am wondering what could I do with that? Could I plug in a second hard drive? Thanks. =============================================================== William Ng wmng@nsc.com =============================================================== From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 6 14:16:12 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20020; Mon, 6 May 96 14:16:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14644; Mon, 6 May 1996 14:14:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 6 May 1996 14:14:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14563; Mon, 6 May 1996 14:14:20 -0400 Received: from baker.cnw.com (root@baker.cnw.com [206.40.133.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14556; Mon, 6 May 1996 14:14:16 -0400 Received: from cnw.com (skag1-27.cnw.com [206.40.133.67]) by baker.cnw.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA01199 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 11:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605061814.LAA01199@baker.cnw.com> From: Vicky Stables Date: Mon, 06 May 96 11:11:18 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701cs brightness control X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v0.99z I just got a 701cs, love the closeout pricing. The brightness control doesn't seem to do anything. Not having had a color notebook before, and knowing that this is a passive matrix system, is it supposed to? I thought I would ask the experts here before calling IBM. I am also getting random but frequent access errors at location ffffffff when I start WordPerfect 6.0a. I have 8mb ram [another 8 on the way] and am running under OS/2. I have never gotten this type of error on my desktop. Any help appreciated. Vicky -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Vicky Stables ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 6 16:08:35 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23809; Mon, 6 May 96 16:08:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24791; Mon, 6 May 1996 16:07:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 6 May 1996 15:58:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23870; Mon, 6 May 1996 15:58:56 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23864; Mon, 6 May 1996 15:58:54 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #4) id m0uGWOx-000KztC; Mon, 6 May 96 13:56 MDT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960506195832.00c0c2bc@[166.93.8.14]> X-Sender: ssh@[166.93.8.14] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 06 May 1996 13:58:32 -0600 To: Vicky Stables , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Steve Hultquist Subject: Re: 701cs brightness control At 11:11 AM 5/6/96 -0800, Vicky Stables wrote: >I just got a 701cs, love the closeout pricing. The brightness control >doesn't seem to do anything. Not having had a color notebook before, and >knowing that this is a passive matrix system, is it supposed to? I thought That's pretty much the way it is on the passive matrix screens. Can't help with the error, tho. Sorry... Cheers, ssh -- Steve Hultquist Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Web, Internet, LANs, WANs, Routing, Switching, Unix, PCs, NT, 95, OS/2 Specialists in temporary and demonstration environments http://www.wwsi.com/ 303.581.0800 Boulder, Colorado, USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 6 18:35:25 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28420; Mon, 6 May 96 18:35:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08575; Mon, 6 May 1996 18:33:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 6 May 1996 18:29:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08220; Mon, 6 May 1996 18:29:54 -0400 Received: from baker.cnw.com (root@baker.cnw.com [206.40.133.20]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08214; Mon, 6 May 1996 18:29:52 -0400 Received: from cnw.com (skag1-17.cnw.com [206.40.133.57]) by baker.cnw.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA10974 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 15:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605062229.PAA10974@baker.cnw.com> From: Vicky Stables Date: Mon, 06 May 96 15:27:01 -0800 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: sys3175 and WordPerfect 6.0a X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v0.99z First, thanks to all who replied about my brightness control question. I mentioned another problem in that post that was unrelated to the header, so I thought I would try again. I have a TP701cs with 8mb ram running OS/2 and get random but frequent sys3175 access errors at location ffffffff when I load WordPerfect 6.0a. I have not had this problem on my desktop machine. Anyone have any clues? Thanks in advance, Vicky -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Vicky Stables ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 6 20:57:57 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04150; Mon, 6 May 96 20:57:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17400; Mon, 6 May 1996 20:57:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 6 May 1996 20:54:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16848; Mon, 6 May 1996 20:54:28 -0400 Received: from gemini.adnc.com (gemini.adnc.com [205.216.138.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA16842; Mon, 6 May 1996 20:54:25 -0400 Received: from adnline802.adnc.com by gemini.adnc.com (SMI-8.6/SVR4 Mailer ADN 1/96) id RAA10651; Mon, 6 May 1996 17:54:36 -0700 Received: by adnline802.adnc.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BB3B75.3B5EC6A0@adnline802.adnc.com>; Mon, 6 May 1996 17:55:37 -0700 Message-Id: <01BB3B75.3B5EC6A0@adnline802.adnc.com> From: Joshua Gerber To: "'TP'" Subject: RE: Dial-Up Networking for TP701CS Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 17:55:23 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Monday, May 06, 1996 8:19 AM, Michael = Verne/VENTANA[SMTP:Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com] wrote: > >i saw the exact same thing on three 755cd's and a cse. it was a win95 = registry=20 >problem, not a network configuration one. i paid 35 helpware dollars = to ibm=20 >(after several hours of tracking down someone willing to take my money) = for an=20 >incomplete set of instructions on how to fix it. i had to fill in a = few blanks=20 >to get it to work, but this is basically it: [port troubleshooting instructions deleted] If the problem were with the ports, then the modem wouldn't have been = able to negotiate any protocol at all, let alone fail finding a = compatible one, right?=20 I had the exact same problem after switching to a new ISP, after I had = reinstalled my TCP/IP stack. A free call to my ISP's support line solved = the problem in about 2 minutes (including the reboot) by checking the = "Set this protocol to be the default protocol" box in the Network = Control Panel. (Then again, the rest of my settings were correct...) -j From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 7 09:05:15 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23467; Tue, 7 May 96 09:05:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12228; Tue, 7 May 1996 09:04:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 7 May 1996 08:59:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11707; Tue, 7 May 1996 08:59:05 -0400 Received: from vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11700; Tue, 7 May 1996 08:59:02 -0400 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id IAA04652; Tue, 7 May 1996 08:55:00 -0400 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA2085; Tue, 07 May 96 08:54:37 -0700 Message-Id: <9605071554.AA2085@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id 1431AE682ACAB6448525632300467B2C; Tue, 7 May 96 08:54:30 EDT To: Joshua Gerber Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 7 May 96 8:52:14 EDT Subject: RE: Dial-Up Networking for TP701CS X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "...If the problem were with the ports, then the modem wouldn't have been able to negotiate any protocol at all, let alone fail finding a compatible one, right?..." ~~~~~ you're right. i missed the part where he said it dials. the message i was getting was right after the password screen, but before dialing. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons. --Popular Mechanics, 1949 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 7 09:09:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23491; Tue, 7 May 96 09:09:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12713; Tue, 7 May 1996 09:09:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 7 May 1996 09:08:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12600; Tue, 7 May 1996 09:08:16 -0400 Received: from igate.ska.com (firewall-user@igate.ska.com [198.240.202.195]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12588; Tue, 7 May 1996 09:08:11 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by igate.ska.com (8.7.3/8.6.11) id UAA18308 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 20:27:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mx1.ska.com(159.122.160.4) by igate.ska.com via smap (g3.0.3) id xma018303; Wed, 1 May 96 20:26:49 +0200 Received: from firestorm.foa.ska.com (firestorm.foa.ska.com [159.122.18.221]) by mx1.ska.com (8.7.5+phmap-1.3/8.7.3/MX1-02-APR-96) with ESMTP id UAA04692 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 20:31:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from fs@localhost) by firestorm.foa.ska.com (8.6.12+phmap-1.2/8.6.9) id UAA09735 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 1 May 1996 20:30:27 +0200 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 20:30:27 +0200 From: Frank Sheeran Message-Id: <199605011830.UAA09735@firestorm.foa.ska.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: laptop processors... I just timed my Thinkpad 760CD (120MHz, 40MB) for a build and timing test of a project, and my Zeos 100MHz Pentium 32MB home system on the same. In both cases, I rean the make twice, so all pertinent headers etc. would be in the caches. This means disk spead wouldn't be a factor. Results: 2 min 20 second for the tower, 4 min 20 second for the laptop. The test suite put out alot of text which scrolled on 80x40 xterms, so graphics performance was involved. A part of the test that timed itself showed the laptop actually performing 10% faster on a read-only section of the test, but 10% slower during write- intensive parts. (insert and delete times for a balanced binary tree were faster on the tower, and the searches which don't write memory were faster on the laptop.) - - - - - What is the point? Well, if you are thinking about buying a laptop vs. a PC, you should know that the laptop architecture cuts corners on performance. How? I suppose, either no L2 cache, no EDO ram, or both. There might be other problems with the buses or something. Also, I did timing tests on an NEC Versa 100MHz 486 with 24MB, that were not much slower than my laptop.. If/when I buy my own laptop, I will probably aim for lower performance processor, if it is any cheaper or (more to the point) faster delivery. The memory and hard disk speeds and graphics are the bottlenecks on these things, most of the time... Frank From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 7 09:17:58 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23635; Tue, 7 May 96 09:17:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13508; Tue, 7 May 1996 09:16:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 7 May 1996 09:16:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13381; Tue, 7 May 1996 09:15:58 -0400 Received: from goldilocks.LCS.MIT.EDU (goldilocks.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13371; Tue, 7 May 1996 09:15:54 -0400 Received: from ursa-minor.lcs.mit.edu by goldilocks.LCS.MIT.EDU (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA00393; Tue, 7 May 96 09:15:51 EDT Received: (from ilh@localhost) by ursa-minor.lcs.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA00756; Tue, 7 May 1996 09:16:15 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 09:16:15 -0400 Message-Id: <199605071316.JAA00756@ursa-minor.lcs.mit.edu> To: Frank Sheeran Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: laptop processors... In-Reply-To: your message of 1 May 1996 References: <199605011830.UAA09735@firestorm.foa.ska.com> From: Lee Hetherington | I just timed my Thinkpad 760CD (120MHz, 40MB) for a build and timing test | of a project, and my Zeos 100MHz Pentium 32MB home system on the same. I ran some benchmarks a while ago (floating point and integer, no output/graphics), and a 90MHz Pentium PCI desktop machine was definitely faster than a 120MHz 760C, at least when the memory system was being exercised. I found that for some programs a 75MHz Pentium 755 was very close to the same speed my 120MHz Pentium 760. | What is the point? Well, if you are thinking about buying a laptop vs. | a PC, you should know that the laptop architecture cuts corners on | performance. How? I suppose, either no L2 cache, no EDO ram, or both. | There might be other problems with the buses or something. I believe the 760C and 760CD have 256K L2 cache and EDO ram. The problem I think is the bus: not PCI. | If/when I buy my own laptop, I will probably aim for lower performance | processor, if it is any cheaper or (more to the point) faster delivery. | The memory and hard disk speeds and graphics are the bottlenecks on these | things, most of the time... Either that or maybe consider the 760E or 760ED machines with PCI. Has anybody run anything on these machines? Lee Hetherington ilh@lcs.mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 7 11:50:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26155; Tue, 7 May 96 11:50:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27996; Tue, 7 May 1996 11:49:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 7 May 1996 11:46:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27617; Tue, 7 May 1996 11:46:30 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27591; Tue, 7 May 1996 11:46:26 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #4) id m0uGouU-000JMDC; Tue, 7 May 96 09:42 MDT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960507154417.00c13188@[166.93.8.14]> X-Sender: ssh@[166.93.8.14] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 07 May 1996 09:44:17 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Steve Hultquist Subject: Re: laptop processors... At 09:16 AM 5/7/96 -0400, Lee Hetherington wrote: >Either that or maybe consider the 760E or 760ED machines with PCI. Has >anybody run anything on these machines? If anyone has, I'd love to know, too! I don't think anyone has one, yet, except for the folks inside IBM... Cheers, ssh -- Steve Hultquist Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Web, Internet, LANs, WANs, Routing, Switching, Unix, PCs, NT, 95, OS/2 Specialists in temporary and demonstration environments http://www.wwsi.com/ 303.581.0800 Boulder, Colorado, USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 7 11:50:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26160; Tue, 7 May 96 11:50:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27986; Tue, 7 May 1996 11:49:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 7 May 1996 11:46:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27508; Tue, 7 May 1996 11:46:05 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27502; Tue, 7 May 1996 11:46:03 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #4) id m0uGouR-000JM7C; Tue, 7 May 96 09:42 MDT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960507154414.00c184b0@[166.93.8.14]> X-Sender: ssh@[166.93.8.14] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 07 May 1996 09:44:14 -0600 To: Frank Sheeran , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Steve Hultquist Subject: Re: laptop processors... At 08:30 PM 5/1/96 +0200, Frank Sheeran wrote: >I just timed my Thinkpad 760CD (120MHz, 40MB) for a build and timing test >of a project, and my Zeos 100MHz Pentium 32MB home system on the same. ... >What is the point? Well, if you are thinking about buying a laptop vs. >a PC, you should know that the laptop architecture cuts corners on >performance. How? I suppose, either no L2 cache, no EDO ram, or both. >There might be other problems with the buses or something. The 760 has L2 cache, but the CD doesn't have EDO memory (the ED has 64-bit EDO memory). Any peripherals are also slower on the CD, since it's an ISA bus (the ED is PCI). The ED also has a 64-bit graphics adapter. But, your premise is correct; the laptops historically have been slower. I think the latest generation (with PCI, EDO, etc.) will get closer, but will likely still be slower. My 2 pence... Cheers, ssh -- Steve Hultquist Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Web, Internet, LANs, WANs, Routing, Switching, Unix, PCs, NT, 95, OS/2 Specialists in temporary and demonstration environments http://www.wwsi.com/ 303.581.0800 Boulder, Colorado, USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 8 02:42:13 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16253; Wed, 8 May 96 02:42:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04112; Wed, 8 May 1996 02:40:27 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 8 May 1996 02:31:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03397; Wed, 8 May 1996 02:31:05 -0400 Received: from gemini.adnc.com (gemini.adnc.com [205.216.138.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03385; Wed, 8 May 1996 02:31:01 -0400 Received: from adnline848.adnc.com by gemini.adnc.com (SMI-8.6/SVR4 Mailer ADN 1/96) id XAA15906; Tue, 7 May 1996 23:31:09 -0700 Received: by adnline848.adnc.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BB3C6D.69ABF700@adnline848.adnc.com>; Tue, 7 May 1996 23:32:10 -0700 Message-Id: <01BB3C6D.69ABF700@adnline848.adnc.com> From: Joshua Gerber To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: laptop processors... Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 23:31:52 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What I can't figure out, is that when I tried running WinTune95 (on the = simple assumtion that the program works and the comparison information = is accurate), my 755 (DX4-75) received Dhrystone scores about 2/3 of a = similar machine (Toshiba 2115CS - DX4/75)! TP 755Cs Toshiba 2115cs Dhrystone 43 MIPS 62 MIPS Whetstone 15 MFLOPS 17 MFLOPS Video speed 1.7 MP/s 1.9 MP/s C: cached speed 4.8 MB/s 5.5 MB/s C: uncached speed 1.2 MB/s .82 MB/s Installed RAM 20 MB 8 MB RAM read avg 70 MB/s 72 MB/s RAM write avg 30 MB/s 45 MB/s RAM copy avg 17 MB/s 21 MB/s I have run multiple tests with no other applications running. Anyone have any insight? Thanks - j From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 8 03:10:18 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17273; Wed, 8 May 96 03:10:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06071; Wed, 8 May 1996 03:09:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 8 May 1996 03:08:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05954; Wed, 8 May 1996 03:08:41 -0400 Received: from sisyphus.cs.kun.nl (sisyphus.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA05941; Wed, 8 May 1996 03:08:37 -0400 Received: from atlas by sisyphus.cs.kun.nl via atlas.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.42] with SMTP id JAA07977 (8.6.10/2.1) for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 09:08:34 +0200 Sender: mauricek@cs.kun.nl Message-Id: <31904872.41C67EA6@cs.kun.nl> Date: Wed, 08 May 1996 09:08:34 +0200 From: Maurice klein Gebbinck Organization: University of Nijmegen, Computing Science Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3_U1 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: important 701 files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am planning to format the harddisk of my TP701c in order to do a clean installation of Windows95. Are there any files I should save which are TP701c specific and thus important (maybe the entire directory c:\thinkpad)? I heard all the W95 drivers for the TP701c are included in the W95 packet, do I have to download some more from the IBM-site (btw I have already upgraded my BIOS)? -- Maurice klein Gebbinck University of Nijmegen, Computing Science Institute Toernooiveld 1, 6525 ED Nijmegen, The Netherlands Phone +31 24 3652710, Fax +31 24 3553450 http://www.cs.kun.nl/~mauricek From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 8 09:18:18 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25872; Wed, 8 May 96 09:18:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10273; Wed, 8 May 1996 09:17:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 8 May 1996 09:13:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09810; Wed, 8 May 1996 09:13:47 -0400 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09803; Wed, 8 May 1996 09:13:43 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA37246 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 13:13:39 GMT Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 13:13:39 GMT Message-Id: <199605081313.NAA37246@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip129-37-152-200.on.ca.ibm.net(129.37.152.200) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaHlsDM2; Wed May 8 13:13:28 1996 X-Sender: szivos@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Geza Szivos Subject: Re: laptop processors... > >The 760 has L2 cache, but the CD doesn't have EDO memory (the ED has 64-bit >EDO memory). Any peripherals are also slower on the CD, since it's an ISA >bus (the ED is PCI). The ED also has a 64-bit graphics adapter. > The 760CD is using EDO memory. (I have one with the additional 16M module) Geza From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 8 09:48:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26244; Wed, 8 May 96 09:48:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12865; Wed, 8 May 1996 09:47:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 8 May 1996 09:46:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12776; Wed, 8 May 1996 09:46:55 -0400 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12769; Wed, 8 May 1996 09:46:52 -0400 Received: from [128.125.224.153] (comserv-j-09.usc.edu [128.125.224.153]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id GAA25066; Wed, 8 May 1996 06:46:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 06:46:46 -0700 To: Maurice klein Gebbinck , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: important 701 files At 9:08 AM 5/8/96, Maurice klein Gebbinck wrote: >I am planning to format the harddisk of my TP701c >in order to do a clean installation of Windows95. >Are there any files I should save which are TP701c >specific and thus important (maybe the entire >directory c:\thinkpad)? I heard all the W95 >drivers for the TP701c are included in the W95 >packet, do I have to download some more from the >IBM-site (btw I have already upgraded my BIOS)? Actually, I'd be a little nervous of doing a "clean" install (as you put it. I wouldn't erase my entire hard drive without a good backup in place. Unless you back it up, then I'd just go with a "regular" installation of Win '95 and once you're satisfied everything works well, *THEN* remove the other stuff from your disk. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche --is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 8 11:40:06 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28407; Wed, 8 May 96 11:40:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23520; Wed, 8 May 1996 11:38:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 8 May 1996 11:36:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23178; Wed, 8 May 1996 11:35:58 -0400 Received: from mhub2.tc.umn.edu (0@mhub2.tc.umn.edu [128.101.131.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23165; Wed, 8 May 1996 11:35:53 -0400 Received: from maroon.tc.umn.edu by mhub2.tc.umn.edu; Wed, 8 May 96 10:35:45 -0500 Received: by maroon.tc.umn.edu; Wed, 8 May 96 10:35:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 10:35:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Christian N Michalek To: Randy Whittle Cc: Maurice klein Gebbinck , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: important 701 files In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 8 May 1996, Randy Whittle wrote: > At 9:08 AM 5/8/96, Maurice klein Gebbinck wrote: > >I am planning to format the harddisk of my TP701c > >in order to do a clean installation of Windows95. > >Are there any files I should save which are TP701c > >specific and thus important (maybe the entire > > Actually, I'd be a little nervous of doing a "clean" install (as > you put it. I wouldn't erase my entire hard drive without a good backup in > place. > installation of Win '95 and once you're satisfied everything works well, > *THEN* remove the other stuff from your disk. I had gotten a virus in my 701C and got so frustrated with everything going wrong after I had thought I had gotten rid of the virus, I ended up reformating my hard drive and doing a clean install of win 95. I haven't encountered any problems since I did it in Jan. CM 701C-75hmz 16MB Ram 720 HD From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 8 11:45:06 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28433; Wed, 8 May 96 11:45:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24083; Wed, 8 May 1996 11:43:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 8 May 1996 11:42:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23845; Wed, 8 May 1996 11:42:44 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23838; Wed, 8 May 1996 11:42:42 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #4) id m0uHBKQ-000JOlC; Wed, 8 May 96 09:39 MDT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960508154034.0088ec74@[166.93.8.14]> X-Sender: ssh@[166.93.8.14] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 08 May 1996 09:40:34 -0600 To: Geza Szivos , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Steve Hultquist Subject: Re: laptop processors... At 01:13 PM 5/8/96 GMT, Geza Szivos wrote: >>The 760 has L2 cache, but the CD doesn't have EDO memory (the ED has 64-bit >>EDO memory). Any peripherals are also slower on the CD, since it's an ISA >>bus (the ED is PCI). The ED also has a 64-bit graphics adapter. > >The 760CD is using EDO memory. (I have one with the additional 16M module) > Hmmm... Thanks; I guess I was wrong about that, then! There is new memory for the ED, tho. Perhaps the difference is 64-bit? Cheers, ssh -- Steve Hultquist Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Web, Internet, LANs, WANs, Routing, Switching, Unix, PCs, NT, 95, OS/2 Specialists in temporary and demonstration environments http://www.wwsi.com/ 303.581.0800 Boulder, Colorado, USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 8 11:54:27 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28662; Wed, 8 May 96 11:54:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24960; Wed, 8 May 1996 11:53:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 8 May 1996 11:51:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24755; Wed, 8 May 1996 11:51:12 -0400 Received: from where.why.net (why.net [205.240.252.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24749; Wed, 8 May 1996 11:51:09 -0400 Received: from jim.dhs.com ([198.69.202.22]) by where.why.net (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11525) with SMTP id AAA359 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 10:50:27 -0500 Message-Id: <3190C240.64FC@why.net> Date: Wed, 08 May 1996 10:48:16 -0500 From: jim@why.net (jim) X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: important 701 files References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a TP 360C and in the Thinkpad directory I have ps2.exe and ps2win.exe. Can you change the settings these programs set without them? Jim From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 8 12:48:37 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00015; Wed, 8 May 96 12:48:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00190; Wed, 8 May 1996 12:46:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 8 May 1996 12:43:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29795; Wed, 8 May 1996 12:43:46 -0400 Received: from dragon.cnm.columbia.edu (dragon.cnm.columbia.edu [128.59.192.114]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29786; Wed, 8 May 1996 12:43:43 -0400 Received: from Milou.jrn.columbia.edu (tp500.jrn.columbia.edu [128.59.192.33]) by dragon.cnm.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9/sed) with SMTP id MAA03835 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 12:43:30 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960507164108.0072b5e4@jrn.columbia.edu> X-Sender: yann@jrn.columbia.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 07 May 1996 12:41:08 -0400 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Yann Nicolas Subject: 701 Hard Drives. Were do I find 720 meg HDs for my 701 and how much should I pay for it (i.e. what's the best price I can get)? Thanks. -- Yann Nicolas Systems Coordinator -- Columbia Graduate School of Journalism nicolas@columbia.edu -- http://www.columbia.edu/~yn25/soccer.html From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 8 13:27:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02171; Wed, 8 May 96 13:27:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03600; Wed, 8 May 1996 13:25:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 8 May 1996 13:23:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03417; Wed, 8 May 1996 13:23:55 -0400 Received: from portal.visa.com (portal.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03403; Wed, 8 May 1996 13:23:37 -0400 Received: by portal.visa.com id AA05691 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 8 May 1996 17:22:11 GMT Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 8 May 1996 17:22:11 GMT Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 13:20:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Rob Huber To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: HDD's for TP701 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII IBM announced a Travel Star HDD, 12.5 mm height and 1.4 gig capacity that should fit into a 701. I spoke to IBM and they say it will not fit but I don't really believe them since that have a similar drive at 1.08 gig that Sigma sells to fit into the 701 and they tell me that will not fit either. Anyone know anything about this drive fitting the 701 and if so where to get it? Thanks! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 8 13:43:15 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02462; Wed, 8 May 96 13:43:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04980; Wed, 8 May 1996 13:41:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 8 May 1996 13:39:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04699; Wed, 8 May 1996 13:39:37 -0400 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04693; Wed, 8 May 1996 13:39:33 -0400 Received: from [128.125.224.19] (comserv-h-19.usc.edu [128.125.224.19]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id KAA27609; Wed, 8 May 1996 10:39:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 10:39:36 -0700 To: "Patrick A. Forte" From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: important 701 files Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu At 10:52 AM 5/8/96, Patrick A. Forte wrote: >Randy: > > Your strategy sounds about right to me. Do you or does anyone have >an actual "1, 2, 3" list of steps bestto take when adding Win95 over Win3.11 >on a 701C? Its not nearly as complicated as it sounds. First of all, I wouldn't add Win '95 "over" Win 3.11. You can do an install and have it put all the Win '95 files in their own directory (surprisingly, I call my directory "Win95"), where you won't have to have it mess with anything in your "old" Windows directory. You may have to update/edit the System.ini and Win.ini files in the Win95 directory (it doesn't really *need* them, but they're there for backward compatibility--newer Win95-native software uses the "registry") and of course set up your desktop/menus however you like them, but at least you have a separate, discrete installation of Win 95 rather than muddled mess on top of the old Windows. I still have the old windows on my 701 just for "in case" (though I rarely ever use it--except for a program for my HP100LX which, due to communications issues, I'm told will not be updated for Win 95). That's the easiest/safest route if you're worried for any reason. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche --is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 8 14:20:19 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03965; Wed, 8 May 96 14:20:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07992; Wed, 8 May 1996 14:16:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 8 May 1996 14:14:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07787; Wed, 8 May 1996 14:14:29 -0400 Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07775; Wed, 8 May 1996 14:14:26 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA11794; Wed, 8 May 96 14:12:40 EDT Date: Wed, 8 May 96 14:12:40 EDT From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9605081812.AA11794@nile.gnat.com> To: Szivos@ibm.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: laptop processors... Geza said "The 760CD is using EDO memory. (I have one with the additional 16M module)" Are you sure? How do you know? A friend at a memory company told me that this was definitely NOT the case. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 8 18:44:11 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19803; Wed, 8 May 96 18:44:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02477; Wed, 8 May 1996 18:42:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 8 May 1996 18:37:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02121; Wed, 8 May 1996 18:37:48 -0400 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA02115; Wed, 8 May 1996 18:37:45 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA74669; Wed, 8 May 1996 22:37:35 GMT Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 22:37:35 GMT Message-Id: <199605082237.WAA74669@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip129-37-152-196.on.ca.ibm.net(129.37.152.196) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma%HkDFW; Wed May 8 22:37:21 1996 X-Sender: szivos@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) From: Geza Szivos Subject: Re: laptop processors... At 02:12 PM 5/8/96 EDT, you wrote: >Geza said > >"The 760CD is using EDO memory. (I have one with the additional 16M module)" > >Are you sure? How do you know? A friend at a memory company told me that >this was definitely NOT the case. > 1. I have a 760CD-120. WITH the 16MB additional memory option: 16MB SO DIMM (3.3V)(non-parity) EDO memory. Part # 92D7316 Call the IBM FAX-Back service for details. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Geza Szivos Systems Engineer, SIVCO Inc. BESTeam and TEAMOS2 Member Certified IBM OS/2 Engineer, Certified LAN Server Engineer and AD Specialist Tel: (403)-850-4500 FAX: (403)-547-4741 Szivos@ibm.net TalkLink:lnk9094 IBMMail(CANOVXVV) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 9 09:21:54 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08667; Thu, 9 May 96 09:21:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA08111; Thu, 9 May 1996 09:20:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 9 May 1996 09:11:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07294; Thu, 9 May 1996 09:11:36 -0400 Received: from goldilocks.LCS.MIT.EDU (goldilocks.lcs.mit.edu [18.27.0.167]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07288; Thu, 9 May 1996 09:11:33 -0400 Received: from ursa-minor.lcs.mit.edu by goldilocks.LCS.MIT.EDU (4.1/SLS-4.1.1) id AA19096; Thu, 9 May 96 09:11:21 EDT Received: (from ilh@localhost) by ursa-minor.lcs.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA06828; Thu, 9 May 1996 09:11:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 09:11:47 -0400 Message-Id: <199605091311.JAA06828@ursa-minor.lcs.mit.edu> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: EDO memory In-Reply-To: your message of 8 May 1996 References: <199605082237.WAA74669@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> From: Lee Hetherington Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is EDO memory? What does EDO stand for? Lee Hetherington ilh@lcs.mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 9 10:39:46 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11177; Thu, 9 May 96 10:39:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14444; Thu, 9 May 1996 10:38:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 9 May 1996 10:36:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14288; Thu, 9 May 1996 10:36:19 -0400 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14278; Thu, 9 May 1996 10:36:14 -0400 Received: from [128.125.224.9] (comserv-h-09.usc.edu [128.125.224.9]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id HAA14219; Thu, 9 May 1996 07:36:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 07:36:19 -0700 To: Lee Hetherington , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: EDO memory At 9:11 AM 5/9/96, Lee Hetherington wrote: >Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is EDO memory? What does EDO >stand for? "Extended Data Out". I don't know the technical details, but as I recall reading in some PC rag, the idea is it has some method of increasing data retrieval just a little, increasing performance (particularly on Pentium machines) over non-EDO memory. Exactly how it does that, I'm not sure (its not rated any faster in terms of nanoseconds). Supposedly its something along the lines of about 10% improvement. Given that CPU's have gotten so fast as to sit around and wait even on RAM, any improvement is something useful. The good news is that it doesn't particularly cost more than non-EDO. In fact, I'm told that EDO is by definition non-parity. So you'll see that it can actually be cheaper than non-EDO memory that has parity chips on it (by a few bucks, anyway). As a side note, I thought it would be funny (painfully so) to mention to the list that I bought some more memory for my desktop machine after looking at how prices had fallen so. I got a pair of 16 MB modules purchased on April 30 for $240-ish each. Checking the website of the place I bought them from just yesterday, I see they are now priced at $200 even. 1 week later. Considering I bought a 3rd 16 MB SIMM for my father, I lost over $100 in depreciation over 1 week's time. Ouch. Oh well... ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche --is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 9 13:33:09 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17794; Thu, 9 May 96 13:33:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00212; Thu, 9 May 1996 13:29:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 9 May 1996 13:25:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29831; Thu, 9 May 1996 13:25:50 -0400 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp (firewall-user@ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp [202.32.89.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29796; Thu, 9 May 1996 13:25:31 -0400 Received: by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp; id XAA02636; Thu, 2 May 1996 23:38:53 +0900 Received: from unknown(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (g3.0.3) id xmavb9756; Thu, 2 May 96 23:21:52 +0900 Received: by ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id MAA11718; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:02:07 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id MAA03912; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:01:10 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id MAA15943; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:01:03 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 12:01:04 +0900 Message-Id: <199605010301.MAA00518@tubby.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca Cc: Frank.Sheeran@ska.com, THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9604292325.AA09971@dec3300.cuug.ab.ca> (pepersb@cuug.ab.ca) Subject: Re: 760CD: my mouse hates my CD-ROM Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp Brad Pepers wrote: |> I'm assuming you are using Linux (you don't actually specify in your |> posting!). It would be interesting to know what version. The |> problems I've had with the ps/2 mouse is that it must use irq 12 |> but sometimes Linux will assign that irq to another device (the FWIW, I've used 1.2.11, 1.2.13, and 1.3.95 and never had a problem -- I just configure for PS/2 support and it all works magically. Same with the pcmcia stuff -- never had a problem. I'm on a 755CX. PS: I just came up with a way to get a real console under 600x800 mode. You still have to use mode3x from DOS and boot via loadlin, but a small patch to the kernel and one command in rc.local and you have a beautiful 100x37 full-screen console. If anyone's interested, let me know. Probably requires something close to 1.3.x -- if you have src/linux/arch/i386/boot/video.s, it should be OK. Jeffrey From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 9 14:21:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21163; Thu, 9 May 96 14:21:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04688; Thu, 9 May 1996 14:20:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 9 May 1996 14:19:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04342; Thu, 9 May 1996 14:19:08 -0400 Received: from bbn.com (ALE.BBN.COM [128.89.0.115]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04336; Thu, 9 May 1996 14:19:06 -0400 Received: (from cerys@localhost) by bbn.com (8.7.3/8.7.3/sl) id OAA03109; Thu, 9 May 1996 14:19:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 14:19:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Cerys Message-Id: <199605091819.OAA03109@bbn.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 760CD vs 760ED: A bird in the hand ... Comments: Hyperbole mail buttons accepted, v3.18.6. Well, my long-awaited 760CD finally arrived this week. However, I'd love to have the new features of the 760ED, esp. the PCI support for driving an external monitor. My supplier is willing to take back my 760CD and put me in the queue for a 760ED, but I'm concerned since they don't have any expected delivery date. I'm certainly willing to wait another month, but probably not for 3+ months. It's been about a week since the last 760ED prognostications on this list: is there a better estimate of when the 760ED's will become available? Thanks, Dan ----------------------------------------------- Daniel Cerys Email: cerys@bbn.com BBN Work Phone: +1(617)873-4534 10 Moulton St. FAX: +1(617)873-2794 Mail Stop 6/4A Cambridge MA 02138 USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 9 14:29:07 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21619; Thu, 9 May 96 14:29:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05406; Thu, 9 May 1996 14:27:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 9 May 1996 14:26:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05292; Thu, 9 May 1996 14:26:27 -0400 Received: from E-MAIL.COM (e-mail.com [199.171.26.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05285; Thu, 9 May 1996 14:26:20 -0400 Message-Id: <199605091826.OAA05285@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from nyl.e-mail.com by E-MAIL.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 9986; Thu, 09 May 96 14:26:04 EDT Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 14:25:55 EDT From: "Larry McLafferty" To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 760CD vs 760ED: A bird in the hand ... Our 760EL (133MHz model) arrived last Tuesday - still waiting for the ED model. Larry McLafferty NY Life Insurance (212) 576-8175 lmclafferty@nyl.e-mail.com *** Forwarding note from I1766946--IBMMAIL 05/09/96 14:21 *** Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 14:19:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Cerys To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 760CD vs 760ED: A bird in the hand ... Well, my long-awaited 760CD finally arrived this week. However, I'd love to have the new features of the 760ED, esp. the PCI support for driving an external monitor. My supplier is willing to take back my 760CD and put me in the queue for a 760ED, but I'm concerned since they don't have any expected delivery date. I'm certainly willing to wait another month, but probably not for 3+ months. It's been about a week since the last 760ED prognostications on this list: is there a better estimate of when the 760ED's will become available? Thanks, Dan ----------------------------------------------- Daniel Cerys Email: cerys@bbn.com BBN Work Phone: +1(617)873-4534 10 Moulton St. FAX: +1(617)873-2794 Mail Stop 6/4A Cambridge MA 02138 USA ---- End of mail text Additional SMTP headers from original mail item follow: Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by ibmmail.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Thu, 09 May 96 14:20:29 EDT Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04473; Thu, 9 May 1996 14:19:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 9 May 1996 14:19:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04342; Thu, 9 May 1996 14:19:08 -0400 Received: from bbn.com (ALE.BBN.COM [128.89.0.115]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04336; Thu, 9 May 1996 14:19:06 -0400 Received: (from cerys@localhost) by bbn.com (8.7.3/8.7.3/sl) id OAA03109; Thu, 9 May 1996 14:19:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605091819.OAA03109@bbn.com> Comments: Hyperbole mail buttons accepted, v3.18.6. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 9 15:02:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23964; Thu, 9 May 96 15:02:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08664; Thu, 9 May 1996 14:59:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 9 May 1996 14:57:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08454; Thu, 9 May 1996 14:57:24 -0400 Received: from nrcnet0.nrc.ca (nrcnet0.nrc.ca [132.246.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08447; Thu, 9 May 1996 14:57:22 -0400 Received: from coursmtp.nrc.ca by nrcnet0.nrc.ca with SMTP id AA04672 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 9 May 1996 14:57:19 -0400 Received: by coursmtp.nrc.ca with Microsoft Mail id <31924024@coursmtp.nrc.ca>; Thu, 09 May 96 14:57:40 EDT From: "Oleskiw, Myron" To: TP750 Subject: Re: FS: Thinkpad 540MB Hard Drive -- $320 Date: Thu, 09 May 96 14:44:00 EDT Message-Id: <31924024@coursmtp.nrc.ca> Encoding: 18 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 About two months ago I purchased a 540 MB Thinkpad hard drive with case from Industrial Computer Liquidators, as was recommended on this list. I received the drive promptly, and it has been working great since then. The price... $335US. Myron.Oleskiw@nrc.ca ---------- From: owner-thinkpad To: TOMF; Thinkpad Cc: tomf Subject: Re: FS: Thinkpad 540MB Hard Drive -- $320 Date: Monday, May 06, 1996 13:19 I have found a source of brnad new 540 meg drives for the TP for $450, which sounds like a pretty good price for new drives, anyone found any lower prices on smaller drives. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 9 17:05:51 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00713; Thu, 9 May 96 17:05:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19746; Thu, 9 May 1996 17:03:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 9 May 1996 16:59:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19341; Thu, 9 May 1996 16:59:57 -0400 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19333; Thu, 9 May 1996 16:59:54 -0400 Received: from [128.125.223.173] (comserv-g-29.usc.edu [128.125.223.173]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id NAA29821; Thu, 9 May 1996 13:59:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 13:59:55 -0700 To: Daniel Cerys , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: 760CD vs 760ED: A bird in the hand ... At 2:19 PM 5/9/96, Daniel Cerys wrote: >Well, my long-awaited 760CD finally arrived this week. However, I'd love >to have the new features of the 760ED, esp. the PCI support for driving an >external monitor. My supplier is willing to take back my 760CD and put me >in the queue for a 760ED, but I'm concerned since they don't have any >expected delivery date. I'm certainly willing to wait another month, but >probably not for 3+ months. It's been about a week since the last 760ED >prognostications on this list: is there a better estimate of when the >760ED's will become available? If you really want one, get in the queue and wait. If a month or so from now you just *have* to have a computer, I'm sure there will be plenty of 760CD's laying around... ;-) ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche --is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 9 18:29:48 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06480; Thu, 9 May 96 18:29:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26625; Thu, 9 May 1996 18:28:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 9 May 1996 18:26:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26392; Thu, 9 May 1996 18:26:08 -0400 Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [198.7.0.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26379; Thu, 9 May 1996 18:25:59 -0400 Received: (from bfeitell@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.7.5/8.7/PanixU1.3) id SAA16304; Thu, 9 May 1996 18:25:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 18:25:44 -0400 (EDT) From: bfeitell To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: FS: Thinkpad 540MB Hard Drive -- $320 In-Reply-To: <31924024@coursmtp.nrc.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Myron, Would you please post the contact info for Indusrial Computer Liquidators? Thanks, Bennett On Thu, 9 May 1996, Oleskiw, Myron wrote: > Date: Thu, 09 May 96 14:44:00 EDT > From: Oleskiw, Myron > To: TP750 > Subject: Re: FS: Thinkpad 540MB Hard Drive -- $320 > > > About two months ago I purchased a 540 MB Thinkpad hard drive with case from > Industrial Computer Liquidators, as was recommended on this list. > > I received the drive promptly, and it has been working great since then. > The price... $335US. > > Myron.Oleskiw@nrc.ca > ---------- > From: owner-thinkpad > To: TOMF; Thinkpad > Cc: tomf > Subject: Re: FS: Thinkpad 540MB Hard Drive -- $320 > Date: Monday, May 06, 1996 13:19 > > I have found a source of brnad new 540 meg drives for the TP for $450, > which sounds like a pretty good price for new drives, anyone found > any lower prices on smaller drives. > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 10 01:24:31 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27005; Fri, 10 May 96 01:24:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25208; Fri, 10 May 1996 01:23:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 10 May 1996 01:19:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA24827; Fri, 10 May 1996 01:19:45 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA24821; Fri, 10 May 1996 01:19:43 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #4) id m0uHkaY-000JNKC; Thu, 9 May 96 23:18 MDT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960510051932.00c34dd0@[166.93.8.14]> X-Sender: ssh@[166.93.8.14] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 23:19:32 -0600 To: Daniel Cerys , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Steve Hultquist Subject: Re: 760CD vs 760ED: A bird in the hand ... At 02:19 PM 5/9/96 -0400, Daniel Cerys wrote: >It's been about a week since the last 760ED >prognostications on this list: is there a better estimate of when the >760ED's will become available? I'm going to try to get a new estimate on Monday. I'll let you know! Cheers, ssh -- Steve Hultquist Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Web, Internet, LANs, WANs, Routing, Switching, Unix, PCs, NT, 95, OS/2 Specialists in temporary and demonstration environments http://www.wwsi.com/ 303.581.0800 Boulder, Colorado, USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 10 01:31:11 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27245; Fri, 10 May 96 01:31:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25773; Fri, 10 May 1996 01:30:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 10 May 1996 01:29:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25588; Fri, 10 May 1996 01:29:36 -0400 Received: from mnl.mnl.sequel.net (mnl.mnl.sequel.net [204.255.104.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25577; Fri, 10 May 1996 01:29:32 -0400 Received: from JCMS.sequel.net by mnl.mnl.sequel.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA14334; Fri, 10 May 1996 13:25:19 +0800 Message-Id: <3192D4BB.3CD9@mnl.sequel.net> Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 13:31:39 +0800 From: Juan Carlos Sibal Organization: Central Professional Books Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad users Subject: new member Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, My name is Carlos Sibal and I'm a new subscriber to this list. I have a 701C DX2/50 and am currently running Win95 w/ 12mb RAM -- its feeling a bit sluggish these days and I hope to upgrade to 20mb real soon! I have a Port leather portfolio case and it serves my needs quite well. I recently got a Panasonic 4x portable cd-rom (kxl-d740) and love it (well, not as much as my 701). At the office I hook up to our Win95 LAN and our Netware Lan using an Etherlink III PC CARD---runs quite smoothly. At home I dock to the multiport where my Parallel Port Zip Drive and Canon BJC-70 awaits. I usually dial up to the Internet with the built in Fax/Modem at 19.2 terbo speed using Win95's dial up networking and Netscape Gold 2.0. I'm using the Nimh battery and get between 1.75hrs to 2.5 hrs of heavy usage. During light usage about 3 to 4 hrs. I've noticed a sharp degradation in battery life though since I started leaving the Panasonic SCSI PC card in the slot-- I'm aware that it draws current but isn't it suppose to "sleep" or go into standby when the computer is in standby(not hibernate) mode? I am based in Manila, Philippines and thankfully enough IBM Philippines offers the most solid support I know of any other IT company here and it can get quite ugly. I acquired my 701 last December and I am a convert to its overall usability. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 10 08:38:54 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17170; Fri, 10 May 96 08:38:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01020; Fri, 10 May 1996 08:38:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 10 May 1996 08:34:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00636; Fri, 10 May 1996 08:34:43 -0400 Received: from nrcnet0.nrc.ca (nrcnet0.nrc.ca [132.246.160.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00630; Fri, 10 May 1996 08:34:40 -0400 Received: from coursmtp.nrc.ca by nrcnet0.nrc.ca with SMTP id AA04540 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 10 May 1996 08:34:37 -0400 Received: by coursmtp.nrc.ca with Microsoft Mail id <319337E6@coursmtp.nrc.ca>; Fri, 10 May 96 08:34:46 EDT From: "Oleskiw, Myron" To: TP750 Subject: ThinkPad Hard Drives Date: Fri, 10 May 96 08:33:00 EDT Message-Id: <319337E6@coursmtp.nrc.ca> Encoding: 16 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 In response to several requests for contact information, you may wish to phone Industrial Computer Liquidators regarding the availability and pricing of ThinkPad hard drives. As I mentioned in a post yesterday, I received a 540 mb drive from them recently, and so far am happy with the drive. Myron.Oleskiw@nrc.ca ---------- Industrial Computer Liquidators 230 Duffy Ave. Unit F1 Hicksville, NY 11801 Ph: 516-932-1800 Fax: 516-932-1822 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 10 10:44:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21831; Fri, 10 May 96 10:44:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11555; Fri, 10 May 1996 10:42:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 10 May 1996 10:34:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10703; Fri, 10 May 1996 10:34:17 -0400 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10695; Fri, 10 May 1996 10:34:15 -0400 Received: from [128.125.222.66] (comserv-b-66.usc.edu [128.125.222.66]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id HAA22485; Fri, 10 May 1996 07:33:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 07:34:01 -0700 To: Juan Carlos Sibal , thinkpad users From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: new member At 1:31 PM 5/10/96, Juan Carlos Sibal wrote: >My name is Carlos Sibal and I'm a new subscriber to this list. I have a 701C >DX2/50 and am currently running Win95 w/ 12mb RAM -- its feeling a bit >speed using Win95's dial up networking and Netscape Gold 2.0. I'm using the >Nimh battery and get between 1.75hrs to 2.5 hrs of heavy usage. During light >usage about 3 to 4 hrs. I've noticed a sharp degradation in battery life >though since I started leaving the Panasonic SCSI PC card in the slot-- I'm >aware that it draws current but isn't it suppose to "sleep" or go into >standby when the computer is in standby(not hibernate) mode? You may have missed the fact that Win '95's PCMCIA drivers don't manage power well (maybe not at all). I read somewhere that you may want to use your IBM/ThinkPad PCMCIA drivers (the old DOS ones) instead. They're not 32-bit, but they do power down the cards when appropriate. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche --is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 10 11:16:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23183; Fri, 10 May 96 11:16:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16198; Fri, 10 May 1996 11:14:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 10 May 1996 11:12:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15943; Fri, 10 May 1996 11:12:56 -0400 Received: from suba01.suba.com (suba01.suba.com [198.87.202.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15934; Fri, 10 May 1996 11:12:52 -0400 Received: from dial03.suba.com (dial03.suba.com [198.87.202.130]) by suba01.suba.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id KAA11130 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 10:12:47 -0500 From: epbrown@suba.com (Emanuel Brown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops Subject: 701 Hard drive source Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 15:16:14 GMT Keywords: Rosebud? Organization: My ISP, who else? Message-Id: <31935bf0.3775214@news.suba.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/16.227 I'm looking for a hard drive for a 701, preferably a source for the caddy and drive seperately (which I think would be cheaper), or a swap ready drive sold specifically for the Thinkpad. Nothing big, another 360 would be fine, a 540MB great. Any recommendations out there? I'd like to stay ~$500US. If you have a Butterfly and upgraded, I don't mind used! Thanks in advance, Emanuel epbrown@suba.com laptop central: www.suba.com/~epbrown/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 10 11:17:37 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23188; Fri, 10 May 96 11:17:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16234; Fri, 10 May 1996 11:14:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 10 May 1996 11:13:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16064; Fri, 10 May 1996 11:13:45 -0400 Received: from chelsea.ios.com (root@chelsea.ios.com [198.4.75.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16050; Fri, 10 May 1996 11:13:40 -0400 Received: (from ingerman@localhost) by chelsea.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA26721; Fri, 10 May 1996 11:09:29 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 11:09:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark M. Ingerman" X-Sender: ingerman@chelsea.ios.com To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Win 95 Istallation nightmare Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a 755cx with a dock II docking station and a cd-rom drive. Since I have heard mixed responses about Win95 in the Thinkpad, I decided to try it on my machine before buying it. ( Don't be alarmed, I don't steal software, but I like to try it before I buy it ). Anyway, I borrowed my friends CD version of Win95 to install. I openned my new hard drive, installed DOS and the CD driver, upgraded the bios, and proceeded to install the Win95using my docking stations and the cd-rom. The installation went fine, but the only problem is, my machine won't boot. I get an error 'loading a Vdx on hardware item 3 serive b' ( or someting like that, I left the error message at home ). Any help in this area would be appreciated. My current assumption now is that there is a problem with the docking station drivers not being present. I am thinking about buying the disketter version, installing it, loading the docking station drivers, and then trying the docking station. But, this is just a guess. Mark M. Ingerman Creative Software Solutions, Inc. ingerman@cs2.com (508) 394-5899 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 10 13:27:26 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27830; Fri, 10 May 96 13:27:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28522; Fri, 10 May 1996 13:25:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 10 May 1996 13:21:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28214; Fri, 10 May 1996 13:21:48 -0400 Received: from dragon.cnm.columbia.edu (dragon.cnm.columbia.edu [128.59.192.114]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28199; Fri, 10 May 1996 13:21:44 -0400 Received: from mao-pc1.jrn.columbia.edu (mao-pc1.jrn.columbia.edu [128.59.192.175]) by dragon.cnm.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9/sed) with SMTP id NAA00669 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 13:21:35 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960510172405.0071e7cc@jrn.columbia.edu> X-Sender: yann@jrn.columbia.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 13:24:05 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Yann Nicolas Subject: 701 Hard drives, part deux... FYI, I called Industrial Computer Liquidators this morning and their price was $265 for a 720 megs HD... I'm assuming it's not bad (I bought my 701C this morning)... I talked to Mustafa and he was quite nice. Then again, I haven't received the goods yet, just letting you guys/gals know... -- Yann Nicolas Systems Coordinator -- Columbia Graduate School of Journalism nicolas@columbia.edu -- http://www.columbia.edu/~yn25/soccer.html From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 10 16:07:41 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06149; Fri, 10 May 96 16:07:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12532; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:04:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 10 May 1996 16:00:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12193; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:00:15 -0400 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12162; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:00:04 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA132821; Fri, 10 May 1996 19:59:38 GMT Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 19:59:38 GMT Message-Id: <199605101959.TAA132821@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip129-37-152-222.on.ca.ibm.net(129.37.152.222) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smajJwDmb; Fri May 10 19:59:18 1996 X-Sender: szivos@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Yann Nicolas From: Geza Szivos Subject: Re: 701 Hard drives, part deux... Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu At 01:24 PM 5/10/96 -0400, you wrote: >FYI, I called Industrial Computer Liquidators this morning and their price >was $265 for a 720 megs HD... I'm assuming it's not bad (I bought my 701C >this morning)... I talked to Mustafa and he was quite nice. Then again, I >haven't received the goods yet, just letting you guys/gals know... >-- >Yann Nicolas >Systems Coordinator -- Columbia Graduate School of Journalism >nicolas@columbia.edu -- http://www.columbia.edu/~yn25/soccer.html > > Do You have their Phone Number? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Geza Szivos Systems Engineer, SIVCO Inc. BESTeam and TEAMOS2 Member Certified IBM OS/2 Expert, Certified LAN Server Expert and AD Specialist Tel: (403)-850-4500 FAX: (403)-547-4741 Szivos@ibm.net TalkLink:lnk9094 IBMMail(CANOVXVV) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 10 16:35:59 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08031; Fri, 10 May 96 16:35:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14969; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:32:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 10 May 1996 16:30:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14681; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:30:39 -0400 Received: from dragon.cnm.columbia.edu (dragon.cnm.columbia.edu [128.59.192.114]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14643; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:30:24 -0400 Received: from mao-pc1.jrn.columbia.edu (mao-pc1.jrn.columbia.edu [128.59.192.175]) by dragon.cnm.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9/sed) with SMTP id QAA02702; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:29:39 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960510203204.006faa84@jrn.columbia.edu> X-Sender: yann@jrn.columbia.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 16:32:04 -0400 To: Geza Szivos From: Yann Nicolas Subject: Re: 701 Hard drives, part deux... Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >Do You have their Phone Number? From Myron that e-mailed the list a few messages back: >In response to several requests for contact information, you may wish to >phone Industrial Computer Liquidators regarding the availability and pricing >of ThinkPad hard drives. > >As I mentioned in a post yesterday, I received a 540 mb drive from them >recently, and so far am happy with the drive. > >Myron.Oleskiw@nrc.ca > ---------- >Industrial Computer Liquidators >230 Duffy Ave. Unit F1 >Hicksville, NY 11801 > >Ph: 516-932-1800 >Fax: 516-932-1822 -- Yann Nicolas Systems Coordinator -- Columbia Graduate School of Journalism nicolas@columbia.edu -- http://www.columbia.edu/~yn25/soccer.html From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 10 17:10:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08689; Fri, 10 May 96 17:10:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18124; Fri, 10 May 1996 17:07:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 10 May 1996 17:05:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17825; Fri, 10 May 1996 17:05:36 -0400 Received: from glia.cs.UMD.EDU (glia.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.236]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17815; Fri, 10 May 1996 17:05:32 -0400 Received: by glia.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA04483; Fri, 10 May 1996 17:05:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 17:05:30 -0400 (EDT) From: hhchou@cs.UMD.EDU (Hui-Hsien Chou) Message-Id: <199605102105.RAA04483@glia.cs.UMD.EDU> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: ThinkPad 701C battery, 25H4861 or 25H4862? Hi, I just ordered an extra battery for my ThinkPad 701C, and get a battery which has IBM part number 25H4861. That is the same number of the original battery which comes with my 701C. But when I check IBM web page for the battery part number, it says 25H4862 is the correct battery to be used with the 701C. I can't even find any information about the 25H4861 there. Are these two batteries, 4861 and 4862, supposed to be the same battery? Will the 4862 be better than the 4861 in anyway? Should I return my battery to exchange for the new 4862 battery? Thanks a lot in advance for your help. hh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 10 18:28:07 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14212; Fri, 10 May 96 18:28:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24086; Fri, 10 May 1996 18:25:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 10 May 1996 18:23:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23783; Fri, 10 May 1996 18:23:53 -0400 Received: from next.agsm.ucla.edu (next.agsm.ucla.edu [164.67.164.164]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23695; Fri, 10 May 1996 18:23:27 -0400 Received: by next.agsm.ucla.edu (NX5.67g/NeXT-1.0(KJW-19Apr90)) id AA00414; Fri, 10 May 96 15:23:17 -0700 Message-Id: <9605102223.AA00414@next.agsm.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.0 v141) Content-Type: text/plain X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.0 (Enhance 2.0b1) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.141) From: Ivo Welch Date: Fri, 10 May 96 15:23:15 -0700 To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Document to describe 755cx conversion to win/95? Reply-To: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu Has anyone written up a guide to putting win/95 up on the 755cx? In particular, I would like to know about [a] necessary BIOS upgrades [b] necessary drivers (mwave, svga) [c] any other things to watch out. How big is Win/95? Regards, /ivo From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 10 19:30:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18858; Fri, 10 May 96 19:30:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27459; Fri, 10 May 1996 19:28:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 10 May 1996 19:27:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27258; Fri, 10 May 1996 19:27:07 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27252; Fri, 10 May 1996 19:27:00 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #4) id m0uI1YU-000JQRC; Fri, 10 May 96 17:25 MDT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960510232637.00c086d4@[166.93.8.14]> X-Sender: ssh@[166.93.8.14] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 17:26:37 -0600 To: "Mark M. Ingerman" , tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Steve Hultquist Subject: Re: Win 95 Istallation nightmare At 11:09 AM 5/10/96 -0400, Mark M. Ingerman wrote: >I have a 755cx with a dock II docking station and a cd-rom drive. Since > >I get an error 'loading a Vdx on hardware item 3 serive b' ( or someting >like that, I left the error message at home ). I don't think it's Dock II drivers; I didn't have to install anything at all to get this combination working. However, I used an external SCSI CD ROM. Have you checked the IBM Web pages to see if there's a new driver for the Dock II CD ROM? Cheers, ssh -- Steve Hultquist Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Web, Internet, LANs, WANs, Routing, Switching, Unix, PCs, NT, 95, OS/2 Specialists in temporary and demonstration environments http://www.wwsi.com/ 303.581.0800 Boulder, Colorado, USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 10 19:30:24 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18863; Fri, 10 May 96 19:30:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27457; Fri, 10 May 1996 19:28:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 10 May 1996 19:28:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27334; Fri, 10 May 1996 19:28:07 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27328; Fri, 10 May 1996 19:28:05 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #4) id m0uI1YR-000JPyC; Fri, 10 May 96 17:24 MDT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960510232634.00c011e0@[166.93.8.14]> X-Sender: ssh@[166.93.8.14] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 17:26:34 -0600 To: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu, TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Steve Hultquist Subject: Re: Document to describe 755cx conversion to win/95? At 03:23 PM 5/10/96 -0700, Ivo Welch wrote: > >Has anyone written up a guide to putting win/95 up on the 755cx? In >particular, I would like to know about > [a] necessary BIOS upgrades > [b] necessary drivers (mwave, svga) > [c] any other things to watch out. >How big is Win/95? Check out the IBM Web pages. They have a document there that you can download that is complete and accurate. It depends, but it's about 50-100MB depending on what you load. Cheers, ssh (who has over 1.6GB on his (810MB) Win 95 drive (double-spaced)) -- Steve Hultquist Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Web, Internet, LANs, WANs, Routing, Switching, Unix, PCs, NT, 95, OS/2 Specialists in temporary and demonstration environments http://www.wwsi.com/ 303.581.0800 Boulder, Colorado, USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 10 21:37:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24111; Fri, 10 May 96 21:37:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05287; Fri, 10 May 1996 21:35:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 10 May 1996 21:32:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05102; Fri, 10 May 1996 21:32:30 -0400 Received: from natsemi-bh.nsc.com (natsemi-bh.nsc.com [204.163.202.66]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05095; Fri, 10 May 1996 21:32:24 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by natsemi-bh.nsc.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) id SAA06506; Fri, 10 May 1996 18:35:10 -0700 Received: from nsc.nsc.com by natsemi-bh.nsc.com via smap (V1.3) id sma005024; Fri May 10 18:28:17 1996 Received: from berlioz.nsc.com by nsc.nsc.com (5.65/1.34) with SMTP id AA13084 for ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu; Fri, 10 May 96 18:25:26 -0700 Received: from maradona.nsc.com by berlioz.nsc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27685; Fri, 10 May 96 18:16:59 PDT Date: Fri, 10 May 96 18:16:59 PDT From: wmng@berlioz.nsc.com (William Ng) Message-Id: <9605110116.AA27685@berlioz.nsc.com> To: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu, TP750@cs.utk.edu, ssh@wwsi.com Subject: Re: Document to describe 755cx conversion to win/95? > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 10 18:07:42 1996 > Return-Path: > X-Sender: ssh@[166.93.8.14] > X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type> : > text/plain> ; > charset="us-ascii"> > To: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu, TP750@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: Document to describe 755cx conversion to win/95? > Content-Length: 814 > X-Lines: 23 > > At 03:23 PM 5/10/96 -0700, Ivo Welch wrote: > > > >Has anyone written up a guide to putting win/95 up on the 755cx? In > >particular, I would like to know about > > [a] necessary BIOS upgrades > > [b] necessary drivers (mwave, svga) > > [c] any other things to watch out. > >How big is Win/95? > I found the write up on the IBM Web site pretty accurate. I just upgraded mine about 2 weeks ago and did not have any problem. I had a tp755cx with an external SCSI cdrom. In the write up, they will tell you what BIOS to upgrade etc.. One slight discrepencany what that the write up ask you to attach the thinkpad to AC but did not say you should fully charge the battery. However, when doing the BIOS upgrade, the screen says make sure the battery are fully charged. I took the advice and back off and fully charged the battery first. I am not sure if this would have helped though. -William From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 10 23:32:08 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27780; Fri, 10 May 96 23:32:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12661; Fri, 10 May 1996 23:31:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 10 May 1996 23:29:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12449; Fri, 10 May 1996 23:29:28 -0400 Received: from cais.cais.com (cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA12443; Fri, 10 May 1996 23:29:26 -0400 Received: from cais3.cais.com (cais3.cais.com [199.0.216.227]) by cais.cais.com (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA05392; Fri, 10 May 1996 23:29:23 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 23:29:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "R.J.H." X-Sender: rj@cais3.cais.com To: Yann Nicolas Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701 Hard drives, part deux... In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960510172405.0071e7cc@jrn.columbia.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I called these folks this afternoon and indeed they say they are shipping 720 MB HDD's for use with a TP701 for $265, but without a caddy? I've call IBM and others and can not find a caddy. Anyone know where the caddy can be purchased and for how much? Thanks!! On Fri, 10 May 1996, Yann Nicolas wrote: > FYI, I called Industrial Computer Liquidators this morning and their price > was $265 for a 720 megs HD... I'm assuming it's not bad (I bought my 701C > this morning)... I talked to Mustafa and he was quite nice. Then again, I > haven't received the goods yet, just letting you guys/gals know... > -- > Yann Nicolas > Systems Coordinator -- Columbia Graduate School of Journalism > nicolas@columbia.edu -- http://www.columbia.edu/~yn25/soccer.html > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 11 04:59:58 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08197; Sat, 11 May 96 04:59:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03285; Sat, 11 May 1996 04:58:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 11 May 1996 04:54:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02930; Sat, 11 May 1996 04:54:44 -0400 Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [198.7.0.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02918; Sat, 11 May 1996 04:54:41 -0400 Received: (from bfeitell@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.7.5/8.7/PanixU1.3) id EAA29512; Sat, 11 May 1996 04:54:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 04:54:25 -0400 (EDT) From: bfeitell To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701 Hard drives, part deux... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What is the contact information for "Industrial Computer Liquidators"? Please post it to the list or email it to me @ bfeitell@panix.com . I have been reading this thread for a few days and still have no clue who you are talking about. Thanks, Bennett On Fri, 10 May 1996, R.J.H. wrote: > Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 23:29:23 -0400 (EDT) > From: R.J.H. > To: Yann Nicolas > Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: Re: 701 Hard drives, part deux... > > I called these folks this afternoon and indeed they say they are shipping > 720 MB HDD's for use with a TP701 for $265, but without a caddy? I've > call IBM and others and can not find a caddy. Anyone know where the caddy > can be purchased and for how much? > > Thanks!! > > On Fri, 10 May 1996, Yann Nicolas wrote: > > > FYI, I called Industrial Computer Liquidators this morning and their price > > was $265 for a 720 megs HD... I'm assuming it's not bad (I bought my 701C > > this morning)... I talked to Mustafa and he was quite nice. Then again, I > > haven't received the goods yet, just letting you guys/gals know... > > -- > > Yann Nicolas > > Systems Coordinator -- Columbia Graduate School of Journalism > > nicolas@columbia.edu -- http://www.columbia.edu/~yn25/soccer.html > > > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 11 06:28:38 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09203; Sat, 11 May 96 06:28:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14717; Sat, 11 May 1996 06:27:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 11 May 1996 06:24:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14488; Sat, 11 May 1996 06:24:15 -0400 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (buffingt@chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14481; Sat, 11 May 1996 06:24:09 -0400 Received: (from buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) id DAA25882; Sat, 11 May 1996 03:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605111024.DAA25882@chaph.usc.edu> From: "Roger J. Buffington" To: "TP750list" , "William Ng" Date: Sat, 11 May 96 03:23:31 -0700 Reply-To: "Roger J. Buffington" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's Registered PMMail 1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Document to describe 755cx conversion to win/95? On Fri, 10 May 96 18:16:59 PDT, William Ng wrote: > However, when >doing the BIOS upgrade, the screen says make sure the battery are fully charged. >I took the advice and back off and fully charged the battery first. I am >not sure if this would have helped though. >-William I believe that the reason IBM wants you to be attached to AC and have a fully-charged battery in the Thinkpad when doing the BIOS upgrade is for safety redundency. If you lose power during the BIOS upgrade it ruins your EPROM. Therefore, the battery is a power back up for the possibility that you lose AC power during the minute or so that the flash-rom is being upgraded. Roger J. Buffington AB6WR USC Law, Class of '97 Go Trojans! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from | | them (Native Americans). There were great numbers of people who | | needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it | | for themsleves." - John Wayne (actor) | From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 11 10:01:35 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13441; Sat, 11 May 96 10:01:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02437; Sat, 11 May 1996 10:00:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 11 May 1996 09:56:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02016; Sat, 11 May 1996 09:56:50 -0400 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (root@chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02010; Sat, 11 May 1996 09:56:47 -0400 Received: from [128.125.224.34] (comserv-h-34.usc.edu [128.125.224.34]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id GAA01472; Sat, 11 May 1996 06:56:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 06:56:52 -0700 To: "R.J.H." , Yann Nicolas From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: 701 Hard drives, part deux... Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu At 11:29 PM 5/10/96, R.J.H. wrote: >I called these folks this afternoon and indeed they say they are shipping >720 MB HDD's for use with a TP701 for $265, but without a caddy? I've >call IBM and others and can not find a caddy. Anyone know where the caddy >can be purchased and for how much? As long as we're on the subject, does anyone know whether a *larger* drive can be purchased for the 701 and for about how much? Even 720 MB is feeling just a *little* tight for me, and I would prefer something in the 1 to 1.2 GB range...especially if its in the cheap range like that 720! ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche --is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 11 12:06:58 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17155; Sat, 11 May 96 12:06:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10321; Sat, 11 May 1996 12:06:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 11 May 1996 11:58:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09776; Sat, 11 May 1996 11:58:57 -0400 Received: from piedmont.net (piedmont.net [205.245.76.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09770; Sat, 11 May 1996 11:58:55 -0400 Received: from tstaples (d19.piedmont.net [205.245.76.59]) by piedmont.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA12724; Sat, 11 May 1996 11:58:50 -0400 Message-Id: <199605111558.LAA12724@piedmont.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Tony Staples" To: hhchou@cs.UMD.EDU (Hui-Hsien Chou) Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 11:57:53 +0000 Subject: Re: ThinkPad 701C battery, 25H4861 or 25H4862? Reply-To: tstaples@piedmont.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.31) > I just ordered an extra battery for my ThinkPad 701C, and get a > battery which has IBM part number 25H4861. That is the same number of > the original battery which comes with my 701C. But when I check IBM > web page for the battery part number, it says 25H4862 is the correct > battery to be used with the 701C. I can't even find any information > about the 25H4861 there. I don't have a 701, but this is probably a case of the IBM Part # vs. the FRU # for the battery. IBM assigns both a part # and an FRU # to every stinking item they have. I don't know the logistics of why they do this, but on many parts they are consecutively numbered. For example, when I was looking for a 16MB DRAM card for my 755CD, the IBM web site said that the correct IBM card was 66G0094. The card that I found was part # 66G0093, but FRU# 66G0094. Both numbers were on the card. IBM only seems to care about the FRU #. I called tech support to very that my DRAM card was correct, and the tech explained to me that they usually refer to the FRU # for most everything. My guess is that your battery is part # 25H4861 and FRU # 25H4862. Check the label, or package, carefully and see if you can find both. Good luck, Tony Staples Motion Motorsports mr.horsepower@piedmont.net Three time ROAR National Champs! "Nothing like a little horsepower to brighten your day!" From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 11 12:36:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17533; Sat, 11 May 96 12:36:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12420; Sat, 11 May 1996 12:35:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 11 May 1996 12:34:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12235; Sat, 11 May 1996 12:34:28 -0400 Received: from relay2.jaring.my (relay2.jaring.my [192.228.128.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12229; Sat, 11 May 1996 12:34:24 -0400 Received: from base.UUCP (root@localhost) by relay2.jaring.my (8.7.1/8.6.12) with UUCP id AAA10559 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 12 May 1996 00:21:55 +0800 (MYT) Message-Id: <199605111621.AAA10559@relay2.jaring.my> Received: from base by base.pl.my (UUPC/extended 1.12b) with UUCP; Sun, 12 May 1996 00:12:47 GMT From: George In To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 00:12:46 Subject: IBM PC Direct Sales Staff E-Mail id ??? Reply-To: gin@base.pl.my Priority: normal X-Mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Hi there .... I'm interested in purchasing additional memory and battery for my 701C which I bought from PC Direct in January. As I'm not residing in the United States I would appreciate it if someone on this list would call IBM PC Direct at their toll-free number, talk to a sales staff and get his/her e-mail ID and mail it to me. I would then e-mail my purchase to the rep and have the items delivered to my friend in the US who would the forward them to me. Thanks ... -- George In gin@base.pl.my From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 11 13:14:32 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18204; Sat, 11 May 96 13:14:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13962; Sat, 11 May 1996 13:13:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 11 May 1996 13:11:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13811; Sat, 11 May 1996 13:11:37 -0400 Received: from tuna.mit.edu (TUNA.MIT.EDU [18.250.0.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13798; Sat, 11 May 1996 13:11:33 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) id NAA01805; Sat, 11 May 1996 13:11:39 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 13:11:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: Randy Whittle Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701 Hard drives, part deux... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 11 May 1996, Randy Whittle wrote: > At 11:29 PM 5/10/96, R.J.H. wrote: > > As long as we're on the subject, does anyone know whether a > *larger* drive can be purchased for the 701 and for about how much? Even > 720 MB is feeling just a *little* tight for me, and I would prefer > something in the 1 to 1.2 GB range...especially if its in the cheap range > like that 720! Maxtor makes a 12.5mm 1.0 and 1.2 GB drive in that range. IBM just announced drives in that size range too (I sent part of news report on it to this group last month). I think there was another company as well. But I'd heard rumored on comp.sys.laptops that the 701's BIOS could only handle the 540 and 720 drives made by IBM. I've no idea if that's true. -- John H. Kim There are only two industries that call their jokim@mit.edu customers 'users,' and one of them is illegal. jokim@tuna.mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 11 13:16:36 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18239; Sat, 11 May 96 13:16:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14197; Sat, 11 May 1996 13:15:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 11 May 1996 13:15:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14024; Sat, 11 May 1996 13:15:02 -0400 Received: from tuna.mit.edu (TUNA.MIT.EDU [18.250.0.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14018; Sat, 11 May 1996 13:15:00 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) id NAA01827; Sat, 11 May 1996 13:15:14 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 13:15:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: Tony Staples Cc: Hui-Hsien Chou , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: ThinkPad 701C battery, 25H4861 or 25H4862? In-Reply-To: <199605111558.LAA12724@piedmont.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 11 May 1996, Tony Staples wrote: > > the original battery which comes with my 701C. But when I check IBM > > web page for the battery part number, it says 25H4862 is the correct > > battery to be used with the 701C. I can't even find any information > > about the 25H4861 there. > > I don't have a 701, but this is probably a case of the IBM Part # vs. > the FRU # for the battery. IBM assigns both a part # and an FRU # to > every stinking item they have. I don't know the logistics of why Part # is what sales uses. FRU is Field Replacement Unit, which is what tech support uses. Dunno why IBM needs two part numbers for every piece of equipment. -- John H. Kim There are only two industries that call their jokim@mit.edu customers 'users,' and one of them is illegal. jokim@tuna.mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 11 13:18:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18247; Sat, 11 May 96 13:18:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14405; Sat, 11 May 1996 13:17:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 11 May 1996 13:16:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14300; Sat, 11 May 1996 13:16:51 -0400 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (root@chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14290; Sat, 11 May 1996 13:16:48 -0400 Received: from [128.125.224.34] (comserv-h-34.usc.edu [128.125.224.34]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id KAA10042; Sat, 11 May 1996 10:16:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 10:16:55 -0700 To: "John H. Kim" From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: 701 Hard drives, part deux... Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu At 1:11 PM 5/11/96, John H. Kim wrote: >Maxtor makes a 12.5mm 1.0 and 1.2 GB drive in that range. IBM just >announced drives in that size range too (I sent part of news report >on it to this group last month). I think there was another company >as well. > >But I'd heard rumored on comp.sys.laptops that the 701's BIOS could >only handle the 540 and 720 drives made by IBM. I've no idea if that's >true. Do you know where I might buy such a beast and about how much? Also, I've never opened the drive on my 701 (doesn't seem to open very easily). Does it require a special caddy of some sort? And if so, does that mean my current 720 drive is useless except to sell to some other 701 would-be upgrader? ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche --is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 11 14:11:08 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18879; Sat, 11 May 96 14:11:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17367; Sat, 11 May 1996 14:10:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 11 May 1996 14:08:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17192; Sat, 11 May 1996 14:08:36 -0400 Received: from netcom20.netcom.com (phr@netcom20.netcom.com [192.100.81.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17186; Sat, 11 May 1996 14:08:34 -0400 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom20.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id LAA10615; Sat, 11 May 1996 11:08:32 -0700 Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 11:08:32 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199605111808.LAA10615@netcom20.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: re: w95 upgrade for 755cx Yes, you do need a recent bios. Otherwise things don't work and the problem is mysterious. I'd say just download the latest bios from the ibm web page. The 755cx svga driver is included on the w95 cd-rom. Just select "my computer" and choose the 755cx svga adapter on the video board menu. I don't think the mwave is there yet though. There is an mwave driver on the ibm web page but I didn't get around to downloading it. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 11 16:19:14 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22151; Sat, 11 May 96 16:19:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25594; Sat, 11 May 1996 16:18:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 11 May 1996 16:16:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25474; Sat, 11 May 1996 16:16:02 -0400 Received: from next.agsm.ucla.edu (next.agsm.ucla.edu [164.67.164.164]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25468; Sat, 11 May 1996 16:15:59 -0400 Received: by next.agsm.ucla.edu (NX5.67g/NeXT-1.0(KJW-19Apr90)) id AA01717; Sat, 11 May 96 13:15:59 -0700 Message-Id: <9605112015.AA01717@next.agsm.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.0 v141) Content-Type: text/plain X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.0 (Enhance 2.0b1) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.141) From: Ivo Welch Date: Sat, 11 May 96 13:15:59 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Document to describe 755cx conversion to win/95? Reply-To: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu Thanks for everyone's help. The proper Web address to look at is: http://www.pc.ibm.com/support/tpsu.html Regards, /ivo --- Ivo Welch ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu Assoc Prof of Finance Anderson GSM at UCLA 110 Westwood Plaza, Box 951481, LA CA 90095-1481 UCLA AGSM Finance Faculty Homepage: HTTP://next.agsm.ucla.edu/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 12 14:59:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04533; Sun, 12 May 96 14:59:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19501; Sun, 12 May 1996 14:58:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sun, 12 May 1996 14:46:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18634; Sun, 12 May 1996 14:46:54 -0400 Received: from ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (pantazis@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.62]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18626; Sun, 12 May 1996 14:46:48 -0400 Received: (from pantazis@localhost) by ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA07129; Sun, 12 May 1996 13:46:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 13:46:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Dennis Pantazis X-Sender: pantazis@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu To: thinkpad Subject: TP701C & PayPhone 2000 (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Posting for a friend.... trying to get a TP701C to connect through one of the payphone 2000 at airports, connections above 9600 are garbage strewn everywhere, it looks like the modem is spitting out crap at 57.6 to itself! the buffer is so full that it overflows as soon as it can be disconnected. nothign legible either, just kunk. he is however using Windows 95 (I told him that's his problem :) ) nayone have success connecting through these? I gues the phone mimicks the central office to the laptop and then when the connection is made to a termserver it hands the laptop over to it. kinda funky.... anyhow after messing with limiting the connection rate, 9600 works, but barly. wondering if its an elecrical problem like mismacthed impedence between the tp and the phone. don;t know if they tried a pcmcia modem, but propably have. anythoughts? thanks in advance Dennis -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dennis Pantazis My opinions are my own, and can not be interpreted as extensions of the Graduate Student in Civil Engineering University's official policies, University of Illinois-Urbana until they decide my opinion are (the Extended Tour of Duty continues) profitable to the institution! You can see us at: http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 12 15:19:51 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05078; Sun, 12 May 96 15:19:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21037; Sun, 12 May 1996 15:19:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sun, 12 May 1996 15:17:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20818; Sun, 12 May 1996 15:17:44 -0400 Received: from suba01.suba.com (suba01.suba.com [198.87.202.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20812; Sun, 12 May 1996 15:17:42 -0400 Received: from dial60.suba.com (dial60.suba.com [198.87.202.187]) by suba01.suba.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id OAA19506 for ; Sun, 12 May 1996 14:17:38 -0500 From: epbrown@suba.com (Emanuel Brown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad 701 Sound Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 19:21:11 GMT Message-Id: <3196358a.103753@mail.suba.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/16.227 As some of you may know, I recently had to do a reformat/reinstall on my 701C. I've got a problem now with my sound system. In order to use some games with each sound causing a system hang, I need to use the Creative Labs Soundblaster drivers. To use these drivers, I have to have my soundboard set as 0x220, irq 5 or 7, dma channel 0 or 1. Unfortunately, the 701 is set at irq 10, which the drivers can't use. In the BIOS set up screen, on the 3rd page, there is a dialogue fr changing your irq settings. By going to the device and tabbing left or right, it scrolls through various settings, different irqs and dma channels. When I select one, it doesn't change! I always come back to the same settings. I called IBM, who recommended I download the new Audio Features diskettes. I *have* the new diskettes, it's not the software, it's the irq settings! How can I change the darn thing? DOOM, btw, is having no problems, and I can get sound in Windows, but in this game, which worked perfectly before the reformat, and has been reloaded from a virgin disk, I get a little pause after every boom! and pow! Has anyone successfully changed his/her irq assignments? How? Thanks in advance, Emanuel epbrown@suba.com Laptop Central http://www.suba.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 12 21:37:14 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16950; Sun, 12 May 96 21:37:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13706; Sun, 12 May 1996 21:36:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sun, 12 May 1996 21:32:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13331; Sun, 12 May 1996 21:32:29 -0400 Received: from suba01.suba.com (suba01.suba.com [198.87.202.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13325; Sun, 12 May 1996 21:32:27 -0400 Received: from dial26.suba.com (dial26.suba.com [198.87.202.153]) by suba01.suba.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id UAA28351 for ; Sun, 12 May 1996 20:32:27 -0500 From: epbrown@suba.com (Emanuel Brown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701 Mouse Problems Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 01:35:59 GMT Message-Id: <319691dc.363823@mail.suba.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/16.227 In comp.sys.laptops, epbrown@suba.com (Emanuel Brown) wrote: " I recently had to re-install windows and dos on my 701. Since "then, I've had a problem with the mouse hanging when I come back from "suspend. I can only assume that I'm leaving some statement out of my "autoexec.bat or congif.sys. Could someone with a 701 email me theirs, "or, if someone has any ideas how to stop this, I'd be grateful. It's "annoying to have to restart Windows every time I come out of suspend; "sort of defeats the purpose, y'know. I thought it might be memory "allocation, but running RAMBOOST or RAMSETUP gives me nothing but "errors. " Thanks in advance, " Emanuel epbrown@suba.com Laptop Central http://www.suba.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 00:42:41 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21046; Mon, 13 May 96 00:42:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27003; Mon, 13 May 1996 00:42:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 00:38:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26704; Mon, 13 May 1996 00:38:27 -0400 Received: from amber.ccs.neu.edu (root@amber.ccs.neu.edu [129.10.111.100]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26698; Mon, 13 May 1996 00:38:25 -0400 Received: from [129.10.176.138] (a-206-38.sp.neu.edu [129.10.176.138]) by amber.ccs.neu.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id AAA27939; Mon, 13 May 1996 00:38:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: dnb@mail.ccs.neu.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <319691dc.363823@mail.suba.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 00:21:56 -0400 To: epbrown@suba.com (Emanuel Brown) From: "David N. Blank-Edelman" Subject: Re: 701 Mouse Problems Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu At 9:35 PM -0400 5/12/96, Emanuel Brown wrote: > Since then, I've had a problem with the mouse hanging when I come back from > suspend. Howdy- I went through a long, protracted debugging sequence with the Borg's (MS's) Win95 escalation team for a problem very similar to this (More details upon request). IBM's support wouldn't even touch the problem without additional payment ("works for us!"). Each time I would suspend, upon resuming I would have to control-alt-del and kill msgsrv32 before I could continue. Suspend from the Start menu would always hang with the same problem. The only solution we were able to hash out consisted of commenting out the mention of device=*vpowerd in [386Enh] section of the system.ini. Benefits: suspend/resume with clamshell close and function key works peachy. Drawbacks: loss of Power control panel, battery in tray area and suspend option in start menu. If you find a better solution, do tell! Hope this helps. Peace, dNb From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 07:35:15 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28171; Mon, 13 May 96 07:35:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29753; Mon, 13 May 1996 07:34:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 07:30:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29491; Mon, 13 May 1996 07:30:51 -0400 Received: from portal.visa.com (portal.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29477; Mon, 13 May 1996 07:30:48 -0400 Received: by portal.visa.com id AA10220 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 13 May 1996 11:30:41 GMT Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Mon, 13 May 1996 11:30:41 GMT Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 07:28:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Rob Huber To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701 Hard Drive Caddy In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A large hard drive for the 701 can be found, in principle anyway, without the mounting hardware but finding the mounting hardware is another matter. I've called IBM twice and their answer is consistent, "if you want the mounting hardware you have to buy it wrapped around a hard drive". Anyone have a suggestion where to get the mounting hardware, other than stripping it off the hard drive already in the computer. Thanks for your help! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 08:05:28 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28624; Mon, 13 May 96 08:05:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01811; Mon, 13 May 1996 08:04:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 08:03:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01692; Mon, 13 May 1996 08:02:58 -0400 Received: from suba01.suba.com (suba01.suba.com [198.87.202.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01679; Mon, 13 May 1996 08:02:44 -0400 Received: from dial07.suba.com (dial07.suba.com [198.87.202.134]) by suba01.suba.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id HAA10221; Mon, 13 May 1996 07:02:30 -0500 From: epbrown@suba.com (Emanuel Brown) To: romero@genmagic.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 701 Mouse Problems Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 12:06:03 GMT Message-Id: <31972575.462962@mail.suba.com> References: <319690a8.55968@news.suba.com> <3196B0B2.6803@genmagic.com> In-Reply-To: <3196B0B2.6803@genmagic.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/16.227 Thanks, reinstalling with APM *did* work. Whew! Emanuel On Sun, 12 May 1996 20:46:58 -0700, you wrote: "Emanuel Brown wrote: "> "> I recently had to re-install windows and dos on my 701. Since "> then, I've had a problem with the mouse hanging when I come back from "> suspend. I can only assume that I'm leaving some statement out of my "> autoexec.bat or congif.sys. Could someone with a 701 email me theirs, "> or, if someone has any ideas how to stop this, I'd be grateful. It's "> annoying to have to restart Windows every time I come out of suspend; "> sort of defeats the purpose, y'know. I thought it might be memory "> allocation, but running RAMBOOST or RAMSETUP gives me nothing but "> errors. "> Thanks in advance, "> Emanuel "> epbrown@suba.com "> Laptop Central "> http://www.suba.com/~epbrown " " "Suggestion: Windows does not know your system supports APM. "You need to specify "MS-DOS System with APM" in the Setup "program for Windows (which you should run from DOS). "Also, make sure you have the POWER.EXE driver loaded in your config.sys. " epbrown@suba.com Laptop Central http://www.suba.com/~epbrown From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 08:09:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28642; Mon, 13 May 96 08:09:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02110; Mon, 13 May 1996 08:07:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 08:06:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02009; Mon, 13 May 1996 08:06:38 -0400 Received: from mh1.well.com (mh1.well.com [206.15.64.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02003; Mon, 13 May 1996 08:06:36 -0400 Received: from LOCALNAME (Cust9.Max31.Chicago.IL.MS.UU.NET [153.36.40.73]) by mh1.well.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id FAA05574 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 05:06:24 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 05:06:24 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960513080941.293f4f16@mail.well.com> X-Sender: dspeed@mail.well.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Dave Speed Subject: Drifting cursor on 701C Greetings ! I am experiencing an intermittant drifting (down and to the right, if it makes a difference). A light touch will keep it centered/stable. The drift rate varies a lot and I have yet to see much of a pattern. At first, it seemd to drift more in some windows than in others. File manager was bad; the Eudora editing view had no problem. After I had left the unit on for an hour or so and went back to do some work, it seemed to drift *much* faster, again down and to te right. Different screens had no effect, but closing the screen and opening again stopped the drift completely. After some looking, I think it *could* be a function of the keyboard butterfly action on the track-point. The problem is occurring less often as the unit is used daily. The other day the drift was up and to the left ! Is this a common problem ? Any fixes short of a trip to the repair depot? Dave - KC6WKI From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 08:30:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28995; Mon, 13 May 96 08:30:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04030; Mon, 13 May 1996 08:29:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 08:28:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03910; Mon, 13 May 1996 08:28:13 -0400 Received: from sabine.acs.psu.edu (sabine.acs.psu.edu [146.186.165.68]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03903; Mon, 13 May 1996 08:28:11 -0400 Message-Id: <199605131228.IAA03903@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by sabine.acs.psu.edu (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA08721; Mon, 13 May 1996 08:28:08 -0400 From: Brian Katz Subject: Re: Drifting cursor on 701C To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu (thinkpad) Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 08:28:07 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19960513080941.293f4f16@mail.well.com> from "Dave Speed" at May 13, 96 05:06:24 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had the same problem. To solve it, I returned the thinkpad. The new one I got did not have the problem. -- Acoustics Department ................................. katz@sabine.acs.psu.edu Penn State University ..................... http://www.acs.psu.edu/users/katz/ State College, PA 16802 ................................. (814)863-9832 Office USA ..................................................... (814)865-3119 Fax From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 09:13:12 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29822; Mon, 13 May 96 09:13:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07914; Mon, 13 May 1996 09:11:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 09:09:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07500; Mon, 13 May 1996 09:09:28 -0400 Received: from merlion.singnet.com.sg (merlion.singnet.com.sg [165.21.1.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07494; Mon, 13 May 1996 09:09:08 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by merlion.singnet.com.sg (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA12247 for cs.utk.edu!THINKPAD; Mon, 13 May 1996 21:08:40 +0800 (SST) Received: from dupre by lugs.org.sg with uucp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0uIx0l-0002KdC; Mon, 13 May 96 20:46 SST Received: by dupre.lugs.org.sg (UUPC/extended 1.12r); Mon, 13 May 1996 20:37:31 -0800 Message-Id: <31980e0b.dupre@dupre.lugs.org.sg> From: Elvin Tan To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu, Dave Speed Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 20:37:31 GMT+8 Subject: Re: Drifting cursor on 701C Reply-To: elvintan@dupre.lugs.org.sg Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 > I am experiencing an intermittant drifting (down and to > the right, if it makes a difference). A light touch will > keep it centered/stable. The drift rate varies a lot and > I have yet to see much of a pattern. You are not the only one. I get this problem too. > After some looking, I think it *could* be a function of the keyboard > butterfly action on the track-point. The problem is occurring less often > as the unit is used daily. The other day the drift was up and to the > left ! I don't think so.. > Is this a common problem ? Any fixes short of a trip to the repair depot? So far, I have not found a solution. Though it HAS irritated me a lot ! Elvin +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | elvintan@dupre.lugs.org.sg Finger alf@pacific.net.sg for PGP Public key | | Public Key fingerprint - 2C F5 0A A6 61 A9 3C 1B DE E4 48 2F F8 34 37 B0 | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 09:31:11 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00133; Mon, 13 May 96 09:31:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09601; Mon, 13 May 1996 09:30:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 09:29:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09466; Mon, 13 May 1996 09:29:36 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09459; Mon, 13 May 1996 09:29:34 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #4) id m0uIxfE-000JS1C; Mon, 13 May 96 07:27 MDT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960513132932.00c33bf8@[166.93.8.14]> X-Sender: ssh@[166.93.8.14] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 07:29:32 -0600 To: Dave Speed , THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Steve Hultquist Subject: Re: Drifting cursor on 701C At 05:06 AM 5/13/96 -0700, Dave Speed wrote: >After I had left the unit on for an hour or so and went back >to do some work, it seemed to drift *much* faster, again down >and to te right. Different screens had no effect, but closing >the screen and opening again stopped the drift completely. >Is this a common problem ? Any fixes short of a trip to the repair depot? Every Thinkpad I've ever had (I think 6 at last count!) would drift sometimes. As I recall, the recommendation is to let it drift to the corner/side and it will correct itself (this was undoubtedly some time ago that I read that). My 755CX does it occationally, but letting it drift to the edge of the screen seems to allow it to correct itself. Of course, YMMV. ssh -- Steve Hultquist Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Web, Internet, LANs, WANs, Routing, Switching, Unix, PCs, NT, 95, OS/2 Specialists in temporary and demonstration environments http://www.wwsi.com/ 303.581.0800 Boulder, Colorado, USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 09:52:09 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00434; Mon, 13 May 96 09:52:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11654; Mon, 13 May 1996 09:50:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 09:49:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11327; Mon, 13 May 1996 09:49:14 -0400 Received: from ctpsun.ciw.edu (ctpsun.ciw.edu [192.70.249.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11321; Mon, 13 May 1996 09:49:11 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.38] (mac38.ciw.edu [192.70.249.38]) by ctpsun.ciw.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA14255 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 09:49:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605131349.JAA14255@ctpsun.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 10:11:26 +0100 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: Drifting cursor on 701C This drifting is a function of adaptive software in the tp which checks occasionally to make sure the strain guages in the trackpoint are centered. If it happens to check while you are moving the cursor, it adjusts itself to take this as non-movement. When you stop moving the cursor, the thinkpad thinks the cursor is still when it is in fact moving the oposite direction. The solution is to relax and let it go until it checks centering again (a few seconds). If you catch it early and relax, it corrects very quickly. If you keep fighting it, it will just get worse. Think of it as zen training. ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 web page: http://granite.ciw.edu/~kress --------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 09:56:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00451; Mon, 13 May 96 09:56:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11478; Mon, 13 May 1996 09:50:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 09:48:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11288; Mon, 13 May 1996 09:48:56 -0400 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11275; Mon, 13 May 1996 09:48:53 -0400 Received: (from buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) id GAA02756; Mon, 13 May 1996 06:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605131348.GAA02756@chaph.usc.edu> From: "Roger J. Buffington" To: "TP750list" , "elvintan@dupre.lugs.org.sg" Date: Mon, 13 May 96 06:48:17 -0700 Reply-To: "Roger J. Buffington" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's Registered PMMail 1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Drifting cursor on 701C On Mon, 13 May 1996 20:37:31 GMT+8, Elvin Tan wrote: >> I am experiencing an intermittant drifting (down and to >> the right, >> Is this a common problem ? Any fixes short of a trip to the repair depot? > So far, I have not found a solution. Though it HAS irritated me a lot ! The Thinkpad mouse curser automatically centers itself every 20 seconds or so. Therefore, if you keep steady pressure on it, and then release it, it will drift until it readjusts for the removal of the pressure. It is common for people to rest their fingers on the mouse trackpoint, and then remove their fingers and notice this drift. The drift should be re-adjusted away after about 20 seconds. Don't know if this is your problem, but this is the most common explanation for mouse cursor drift. Roger J. Buffington AB6WR USC Law, Class of '97 Go Trojans! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from | | them (Native Americans). There were great numbers of people who | | needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it | | for themsleves." - John Wayne (actor) | From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 10:26:53 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA01797; Mon, 13 May 96 10:26:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14644; Mon, 13 May 1996 10:24:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 10:21:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14444; Mon, 13 May 1996 10:21:42 -0400 Received: from peritus.com (benden.peritus.com [199.26.190.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14433; Mon, 13 May 1996 10:21:31 -0400 Received: from tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com (tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com [199.26.191.60]) by peritus.com (sendmail 8.6.12/Peritus-3.0) with ESMTP id KAA14487; Mon, 13 May 1996 10:08:42 -0400 Received: from localhost by tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com (sendmail 8.6.9/Peritus-2.0) id KAA06195; Mon, 13 May 1996 10:10:57 -0400 Message-Id: <199605131410.KAA06195@tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com> To: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Document to describe 755cx conversion to win/95? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 10 May 1996 15:23:15 PDT." <9605102223.AA00414@next.agsm.ucla.edu> Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 10:10:56 -0400 From: Don Markuson -> Has anyone written up a guide to putting win/95 up on the 755cx? In -> particular, I would like to know about -> [a] necessary BIOS upgrades -> [b] necessary drivers (mwave, svga) -> [c] any other things to watch out. Actually, IBM has. Grab ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/mobiles/tpwin95.exe and run it to expand it to tpwin95.txt (why they bother to wrap it in a .exe is beyond me). It has step-by-step info on upgrading to Win95 on all Thinkpad models along with gotchas, etc. ..Don Markuson d.markuson@ieee.org From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 11:03:55 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02583; Mon, 13 May 96 11:03:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17696; Mon, 13 May 1996 10:59:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 10:58:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17554; Mon, 13 May 1996 10:58:11 -0400 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17548; Mon, 13 May 1996 10:58:07 -0400 Received: from [128.125.222.92] (comserv-d-20.usc.edu [128.125.222.92]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id HAA06987 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 07:57:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 07:58:11 -0700 To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Cursor Drift on 701C One more thing: the "Butterfly" folding keyboard on the 701C can sometimes also be the culprit of cursor drift. Basically, since the keyboard folds out, you occasionally might bump or it might be touching something. This indirectly transfers pressure to the trackpoint and can cause the cursor to drift. The solution of course is to keep the keyboard clear of any obstructions. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche --is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 11:17:51 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02978; Mon, 13 May 96 11:17:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19505; Mon, 13 May 1996 11:16:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 11:16:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19396; Mon, 13 May 1996 11:16:09 -0400 Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com (emout18.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.44]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19388; Mon, 13 May 1996 11:16:01 -0400 From: Received: by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA15363 for THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 13 May 1996 11:15:30 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 11:15:30 -0400 Message-Id: <960513111518_293037486@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Drifting cursor on 701C I found out that for most of the time under Windows, when I switch into DOS shell mode and exit it, the recalibration of the trackpoint seems to occur quicker than actually waiting for the unit for about 20 seconds as other people mention. By the time you get back into Windows, the drifting will be gone. -Mark From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 11:30:51 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03221; Mon, 13 May 96 11:30:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20519; Mon, 13 May 1996 11:28:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 11:27:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20366; Mon, 13 May 1996 11:27:00 -0400 Received: from eros.britain.eu.net (eros.Britain.EU.net [192.91.199.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20360; Mon, 13 May 1996 11:26:56 -0400 Received: from qtlon.quantime.co.uk by eros.britain.eu.net via UKIP with SMTP (PP) id ; Mon, 13 May 1996 16:18:29 +0100 Received: from tiree.quantime.co.uk (tiree) by quantime.co.uk; Mon, 13 May 1996 15:54:36 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 16:01:43 +0100 Received: from lajudd.quantime.co.uk by tiree.quantime.co.uk; Mon, 13 May 1996 16:01:43 +0100 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960513160816.40e7af96@tiree.quantime.co.uk> X-Sender: ajudd@tiree.quantime.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Alex Judd Subject: Win 95 TP750 CD Rom Driver Cc: ajudd@quantime.co.uk Is anyone using a 32 bit driver for the CD Rom Drive on the 755CD with Windows 95? I'm still loading the IBM drivers through the Autoexec.bat / Config.sys and this leavs me with only 16 bit access on the CD-Rom drive. ('Compatibility mode paging reduces overall system performance'). Thanks Alex COFFEE.EXE Missing - Insert Cup and Press Any Key From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 11:38:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03916; Mon, 13 May 96 11:38:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21566; Mon, 13 May 1996 11:37:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 11:36:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21429; Mon, 13 May 1996 11:36:18 -0400 Received: from mhub0.tc.umn.edu (0@mhub0.tc.umn.edu [128.101.131.50]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21423; Mon, 13 May 1996 11:36:16 -0400 Received: from maroon.tc.umn.edu by mhub0.tc.umn.edu; Mon, 13 May 96 10:36:11 -0500 Received: by maroon.tc.umn.edu; Mon, 13 May 96 10:36:08 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 10:36:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Christian N Michalek To: Mark3M@aol.com Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: modem/telnet connection In-Reply-To: <960513111518_293037486@emout18.mail.aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I recently installed win95 on my 701C and have no problems connecting to my University. However, now when I use use trumpet telnet it hangs after about five minutes and I have to exit the program and re-login. I have tried several other shareware telnet apps and all seem to have the same effect. I never had this problem under win 3.11. Also only telnet is affected turbogopher and netscape nor any other net app is affected. any insight? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 11:48:09 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04151; Mon, 13 May 96 11:48:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22482; Mon, 13 May 1996 11:46:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 11:45:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22356; Mon, 13 May 1996 11:45:33 -0400 Received: from internet.fultech.com (gateway.fultech.com [198.53.216.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22347; Mon, 13 May 1996 11:45:31 -0400 Received: from msx02.fultech.com by wayne.fultech.com (4.1/) id AA07065; Mon, 13 May 96 11:44:36 EDT Received: by msx02.fultech.com with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.0.837.3) id <01BB40C0.71B92C40@msx02.fultech.com>; Mon, 13 May 1996 11:36:36 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Scott.Newman" To: "'TP750@cs.utk.edu'" , "'Alex Judd'" Subject: RE: Win 95 TP750 CD Rom Driver Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 11:44:02 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.837.3 Encoding: 32 TEXT Yes, I am using them. I'm currently running on a fresh Win95 install (i.e., not an upgrade from Win 3.x), but some months ago (on an earlier hard disk that was an upgrade) I managed to get Win 95 to recognize the CD-ROM and load its own drivers by commenting-out the IBM CD-ROM drivers and rebooting several times. I am not sure whether the several reboots were the key. It is possible a single reboot that does a power-off would do the trick. Scott >---------- >From: Alex Judd[SMTP:ajudd@quantime.co.uk] >Sent: May 13, 1996 11:01 AM >To: TP750@cs.utk.edu >Cc: ajudd@quantime.co.uk >Subject: Win 95 TP750 CD Rom Driver > >Is anyone using a 32 bit driver for the CD Rom Drive on the 755CD with >Windows 95? > >I'm still loading the IBM drivers through the Autoexec.bat / Config.sys >and >this leavs me with only 16 bit access on the CD-Rom drive. >('Compatibility >mode paging reduces overall system performance'). > >Thanks > >Alex >COFFEE.EXE Missing - Insert Cup and Press Any Key > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 11:49:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04159; Mon, 13 May 96 11:49:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22702; Mon, 13 May 1996 11:47:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 11:46:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22513; Mon, 13 May 1996 11:46:22 -0400 Received: from gateway.sequent.com (gateway.sequent.com [138.95.18.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22499; Mon, 13 May 1996 11:46:16 -0400 Received: from relay1.sequent.com (relay1.sequent.com [138.95.14.34]) by gateway.sequent.com (8.6.13/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA15632 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 08:43:22 -0700 Received: from w-krader ([158.84.104.216]) by relay1.sequent.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA22469 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 08:45:31 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960513154533.0074e4d8@sinsqnt.sgp.sequent.com> X-Sender: krader@sinsqnt.sgp.sequent.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 23:45:33 +0800 To: "ThinkPad" From: "Kurtis D. Rader" Subject: TP760 and ECP under Win95 I am trying to get Win95 to configure the parallel port for ECP mode with DMA support. I have used the ThinkPad Features program to disable the IR port and enable the printer port for ECP mode. I have tried both DMA 0 and 3 (DMA 1 can't be used because of the SoundBlaster emulation). Win95 does recognize it as an ECP port but refuses to associate the DMA channel with it. Has anyone else been able to get this to work? ---- Kurtis D. Rader, Senior Consultant krader@sequent.com (email) Sequent Computer Systems +1 503/578-3714 (voice) +65 223-5116 (fax) 80 Robinson Road, #18-03 Currently on assignment in the Singapore, 0106 Asia-Pacific region From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 11:54:25 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04278; Mon, 13 May 96 11:54:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23378; Mon, 13 May 1996 11:52:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 11:51:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23217; Mon, 13 May 1996 11:51:09 -0400 Received: from vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23205; Mon, 13 May 1996 11:51:06 -0400 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id LAA08476; Mon, 13 May 1996 11:47:06 -0400 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA8886; Mon, 13 May 96 11:46:36 -0700 Message-Id: <9605131846.AA8886@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id 719EFE1C38F7178285256329005662F2; Mon, 13 May 96 11:46:29 EDT To: Alex Judd Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 13 May 96 11:46:41 EDT Subject: Re: Win 95 TP750 CD Rom Driver X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "...Is anyone using a 32 bit driver for the CD Rom Drive on the 755CD with Windows 95? ..." ~~~~~ been using the 32-bit drivers since day one, on three 755cd's. no problems at all, except that i can no longer hot-swap the cd & floppy. i could do this in 3.11 & the wierd thing is that the first time i upgraded a cd to win95, i didn't follow any of ibm's instructions & i could hot-swap just fine (of course everything else fell apart in a couple weeks). once i did it the right way, i lost the hot-swap capbility. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons. --Popular Mechanics, 1949 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 12:13:55 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04932; Mon, 13 May 96 12:13:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25767; Mon, 13 May 1996 12:12:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 12:11:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25637; Mon, 13 May 1996 12:11:37 -0400 Received: from vmedia.com (kells.vmedia.com [199.72.13.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA25631; Mon, 13 May 1996 12:11:34 -0400 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id MAA10351; Mon, 13 May 1996 12:07:36 -0400 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA8961; Mon, 13 May 96 12:07:06 -0700 Message-Id: <9605131907.AA8961@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: by ITP (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V1.1) id D05539BF416589FC85256329005799F4; Mon, 13 May 96 12:06:59 EDT To: Christian N Michalek Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 13 May 96 12:00:43 EDT Subject: Re: modem/telnet connection X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "...I recently installed win95 on my 701C and have no problems connecting to my University. However, now when I use use trumpet telnet it hangs after about five minutes and I have to exit the program and re-login. I have tried several other shareware telnet apps and all seem to have the same effect. I never had this problem under win 3.11...." ~~~~~ i had problems with trumpet after upgrading to win95. after a couple weeks working with our slip/ppp server admin, we gave up & i started using the win95 dial up adapter & scripting tool. there's a lot of detail to it, but once i got the right combination, it runs like a champ. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons. --Popular Mechanics, 1949 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 12:57:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06204; Mon, 13 May 96 12:57:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29452; Mon, 13 May 1996 12:52:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 12:50:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29167; Mon, 13 May 1996 12:50:00 -0400 Received: from lotus.com (lotus.com [192.233.136.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29161; Mon, 13 May 1996 12:49:57 -0400 Received: from internet1.lotus.com (crd2.lotus.com) by lotus.com (4.1/SMI-4.10801.1994) id AA13494; Mon, 13 May 96 13:11:19 EDT Received: by internet1.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06447; Mon, 13 May 1996 12:42:38 -0400 Message-Id: <9605131642.AA06447@internet1.lotus.com> Received: by Lotus (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V.03 Beta) id C81F060A0758AAEE0525632900474873; Mon, 13 May 96 12:42:37 EDT To: Dennis Pantazis Cc: thinkpad From: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus Date: 13 May 96 7:59:32 EDT Subject: Re: TP701C & PayPhone 2000 (fwd) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Probably is Wind95 ... I do it from Warp all the time with no problems whatsoever ... -Bill Abt pantazis @ students.uiuc.edu (Dennis Pantazis) 05-12-96 12:46 PM To: THINKPAD @ cs.utk.edu @ INTERNET cc: (bcc: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus) Subject: TP701C & PayPhone 2000 (fwd) Posting for a friend.... trying to get a TP701C to connect through one of the payphone 2000 at airports, connections above 9600 are garbage strewn everywhere, it looks like the modem is spitting out crap at 57.6 to itself! the buffer is so full that it overflows as soon as it can be disconnected. nothign legible either, just kunk. he is however using Windows 95 (I told him that's his problem :) ) nayone have success connecting through these? I gues the phone mimicks the central office to the laptop and then when the connection is made to a termserver it hands the laptop over to it. kinda funky.... anyhow after messing with limiting the connection rate, 9600 works, but barly. wondering if its an elecrical problem like mismacthed impedence between the tp and the phone. don;t know if they tried a pcmcia modem, but propably have. anythoughts? thanks in advance Dennis -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dennis Pantazis My opinions are my own, and can not be interpreted as extensions of the Graduate Student in Civil Engineering University's official policies, University of Illinois-Urbana until they decide my opinion are (the Extended Tour of Duty continues) profitable to the institution! You can see us at: http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~pantazis ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 14:12:30 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09720; Mon, 13 May 96 14:12:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05548; Mon, 13 May 1996 14:10:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 14:07:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05228; Mon, 13 May 1996 14:07:31 -0400 Received: from kodakr.kodak.com (kodakr.kodak.com [150.220.251.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05200; Mon, 13 May 1996 14:07:17 -0400 Received: from Horizon.kodak.com ([129.126.232.5]) by kodakr.kodak.com with SMTP id AA28121 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 13 May 1996 14:04:33 -0400 Received: by Horizon.kodak.com with Microsoft Mail id <3197A44C@Horizon.kodak.com>; Mon, 13 May 96 14:06:20 PDT From: "King, Randall" To: "'smtp:TP750@CS.UTK.EDU'" Subject: ELNK3 problems Date: Mon, 13 May 96 14:05:00 PDT Message-Id: <3197A44C@Horizon.kodak.com> Encoding: 15 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I thought I had heard of someone having this problem, so please indulge me. I am working on two different systems right now, a 755CD, and a 755CDV (ok, ok they're close enough). Both are in Docking stations (dockI and II), and I am trying to log on through a 3COM Etherlink 3 card. My problem is that I have found that the driver for the MWave Modem, in windows, conflicts with the card. I thought someone had pointed out a BIOS fix, but I am not sure if that was with this type of setup or not. On a releated subject, what is the URL for the BIOS updates for the Thinkpads? I poked around IBM for a while, and I couldn't find it. Thanks, RK From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 16:31:01 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19206; Mon, 13 May 96 16:31:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17850; Mon, 13 May 1996 16:28:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 16:18:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16485; Mon, 13 May 1996 16:18:10 -0400 Received: from unix.asb.com (root@unix.asb.com [165.254.128.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16479; Mon, 13 May 1996 16:18:07 -0400 Received: from sls2.asb.com (sls2.asb.com [165.254.128.12]) by unix.asb.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA27824 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 16:38:02 -0400 From: christij@unix.asb.com (Joseph Christie) To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Drifting cursor on 701C Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 20:17:44 GMT Organization: Just me and I'm not organized Message-Id: <31976830.2615748@unix.asb.com> References: <2.2.16.19960513080941.293f4f16@mail.well.com> In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19960513080941.293f4f16@mail.well.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/16.227 I find that if I suspend and resume the drift disappears. Close the lid and reopen it, quicker than waiting and seeing if it goes away by itself. On Mon, 13 May 1996 05:06:24 -0700, you wrote: >Greetings ! > >I am experiencing an intermittant drifting (down and to >the right, if it makes a difference). A light touch will >keep it centered/stable. The drift rate varies a lot and >I have yet to see much of a pattern. > >At first, it seemd to drift more in some windows than in >others. File manager was bad; the Eudora editing view had >no problem. > >After I had left the unit on for an hour or so and went back >to do some work, it seemed to drift *much* faster, again down >and to te right. Different screens had no effect, but closing >the screen and opening again stopped the drift completely. > >After some looking, I think it *could* be a function of the keyboard >butterfly action on the track-point. The problem is occurring less often >as the unit is used daily. The other day the drift was up and to the >left ! > >Is this a common problem ? Any fixes short of a trip to the repair depot? > >Dave - KC6WKI > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 423B78C80FEA5495 CF64AD5F214797DE http://www.asb.com/usr/christij 95E3789C5679C4D7 03210B57E76FE66 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 17:24:26 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21298; Mon, 13 May 96 17:24:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22552; Mon, 13 May 1996 17:22:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 17:19:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22285; Mon, 13 May 1996 17:19:54 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22278; Mon, 13 May 1996 17:19:51 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #4) id m0uJ50S-000JSnC; Mon, 13 May 96 15:18 MDT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960513211957.00c443b0@[166.93.8.14]> X-Sender: ssh@[166.93.8.14] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 15:19:57 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Steve Hultquist Subject: 760ED ETA Well, now they're saying mid-June. Time to start calling around, again! (They said something about not getting enough stock to process *my* order until mid-June!) Anyone have any better ETA?! Cheers, ssh -- Steve Hultquist Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Web, Internet, LANs, WANs, Routing, Switching, Unix, PCs, NT, 95, OS/2 Specialists in temporary and demonstration environments http://www.wwsi.com/ 303.581.0800 Boulder, Colorado, USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 18:02:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22644; Mon, 13 May 96 18:02:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25719; Mon, 13 May 1996 18:00:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 17:57:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25319; Mon, 13 May 1996 17:57:43 -0400 Received: from relay-2.mail.sonnet.co.uk ([195.224.0.40]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25298; Mon, 13 May 1996 17:57:30 -0400 Received: from whg.sonnet.co.uk (whg.sonnet.co.uk [193.82.86.2]) by relay-2.mail.sonnet.co.uk (OBJL-MAIL-1.0-SSL) with SMTP id WAA18929; Mon, 13 May 1996 22:55:12 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960513225609.37574830@gpo.sonnet.co.uk> X-Sender: whg@gpo.sonnet.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 22:56:09 +0000 To: Rob Huber , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Martin Lyngvig Subject: Hard Drive Caddy (Was: Re: 701 Hard Drive Caddy) At 07:28 AM 5/13/96 -0400, Rob Huber wrote: >A large hard drive for the 701 can be found, in principle anyway, without >the mounting hardware but finding the mounting hardware is another matter. >I've called IBM twice and their answer is consistent, "if you want the >mounting hardware you have to buy it wrapped around a hard drive". > >Anyone have a suggestion where to get the mounting hardware, other than >stripping it off the hard drive already in the computer. Datastor in Orange County, California makes a caddy for the 360-series, in which you can just mount a regular 2.5 inch harddisk. I don't know if they make it for the 701-series. If they don't, maybe they will be insterested in making one if there is enough demand. I only have Datastor's telephone number: 714 833 8000. -Martin ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Lyngvig, London, United Kingdom email: martini@acm.org "The sound of tireless voices is the price we pay for the right to hear the music of our own opinions."-Adlai E. Stevenson ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 20:12:08 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27509; Mon, 13 May 96 20:12:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04202; Mon, 13 May 1996 20:10:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 20:06:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03960; Mon, 13 May 1996 20:06:50 -0400 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03953; Mon, 13 May 1996 20:06:46 -0400 Received: from [128.125.223.109] (comserv-f-37.usc.edu [128.125.223.109]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id QAA04570; Mon, 13 May 1996 16:56:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 16:56:52 -0700 To: Christian N Michalek , Mark3M@aol.com From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: modem/telnet connection Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu At 10:36 AM 5/13/96, Christian N Michalek wrote: >I recently installed win95 on my 701C and have no problems connecting to >my University. However, now when I use use trumpet telnet it hangs after >about five minutes and I have to exit the program and re-login. I have >tried several other shareware telnet apps and all seem to have the same >effect. I never had this problem under win 3.11. > >Also only telnet is affected turbogopher and netscape nor any other net app >is affected. > >any insight? I don't have a clue what it might be, but have you tried the "telnet" app that comes with Win '95? Its nothing to brag about in terms of features, but its 32-bit and might give you another comparison. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche --is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 20:12:52 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27516; Mon, 13 May 96 20:12:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04385; Mon, 13 May 1996 20:12:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 20:10:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04177; Mon, 13 May 1996 20:10:09 -0400 Received: from piedmont.net (piedmont.net [205.245.76.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04151; Mon, 13 May 1996 20:10:04 -0400 Received: from tstaples (d13.piedmont.net [205.245.76.53]) by piedmont.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA11147; Mon, 13 May 1996 20:09:49 -0400 Message-Id: <199605140009.UAA11147@piedmont.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Tony Staples" To: Alex Judd Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 20:08:47 +0000 Subject: Re: Win 95 TP750 CD Rom Driver Reply-To: tstaples@piedmont.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.31) > Is anyone using a 32 bit driver for the CD Rom Drive on the 755CD with > Windows 95? > > I'm still loading the IBM drivers through the Autoexec.bat / Config.sys and > this leavs me with only 16 bit access on the CD-Rom drive. ('Compatibility > mode paging reduces overall system performance'). > > Thanks > > Alex I'm using the 32 bit drivers on my 755CD with no problems. In fact, Win95 is flawless on my machine. I downloaded the Win95 drivers and documentation from IBM's web site, and followed the instructions to the letter. Everything works like a champ. Tony Staples Motion Motorsports mr.horsepower@piedmont.net Three time ROAR National Champs! "Nothing like a little horsepower to brighten your day!" From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 20:44:58 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28611; Mon, 13 May 96 20:44:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06813; Mon, 13 May 1996 20:44:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 20:42:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06548; Mon, 13 May 1996 20:41:58 -0400 Received: from piedmont.net (piedmont.net [205.245.76.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA06542; Mon, 13 May 1996 20:41:54 -0400 Received: from tstaples (d13.piedmont.net [205.245.76.53]) by piedmont.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA11734 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 20:41:48 -0400 Message-Id: <199605140041.UAA11734@piedmont.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Tony Staples" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 20:40:46 +0000 Subject: Re: Win 95 TP750 CD Rom Driver Reply-To: tstaples@piedmont.net Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.31) >> "...Is anyone using a 32 bit driver for the CD Rom Drive on the 755CD with >> Windows 95? ..." >> > ~~~~~ > > been using the 32-bit drivers since day one, on three 755cd's. no problems at > all, except that i can no longer hot-swap the cd & floppy. i could do this in > 3.11 & the wierd thing is that the first time i upgraded a cd to win95, i > didn't follow any of ibm's instructions & i could hot-swap just fine (of course > everything else fell apart in a couple weeks). once i did it the right way, i > lost the hot-swap capbility. > > > Michael J. Verne I did the same, but I can hot-swap the CD and floppy with no problems. Everything works great on my 755CD. Tony Staples Motion Motorsports mr.horsepower@piedmont.net Three time ROAR National Champs! "Nothing like a little horsepower to brighten your day!" From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 13 23:10:14 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05889; Mon, 13 May 96 23:10:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17298; Mon, 13 May 1996 23:08:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 13 May 1996 23:03:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16821; Mon, 13 May 1996 23:03:37 -0400 Received: from gemini.adnc.com (gemini.adnc.com [205.216.138.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16814; Mon, 13 May 1996 23:03:34 -0400 Received: from adnline852.adnc.com by gemini.adnc.com (SMI-8.6/SVR4 Mailer ADN 1/96) id UAA11247; Mon, 13 May 1996 20:03:15 -0700 Received: by adnline852.adnc.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BB4107.5EA0E5C0@adnline852.adnc.com>; Mon, 13 May 1996 20:04:19 -0700 Message-Id: <01BB4107.5EA0E5C0@adnline852.adnc.com> From: Joshua Gerber To: "'Dave Speed'" , "THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: Drifting cursor on 701C Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 20:02:52 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Monday, May 13, 1996 5:06 AM, Dave Speed[SMTP:dspeed@well.com] wrote: >Greetings ! > >I am experiencing an intermittant drifting (down and to >the right, if it makes a difference). A light touch will >keep it centered/stable. The drift rate varies a lot and >I have yet to see much of a pattern. One day my trackpoint went out of control...would stay centered for an = instant, then fly off to one side of the screen, and was next to = useless. I got it back from EZ-Serv in 40 hours with a new keyboard and = cap, as well as a new shell to repair the sticky latch I had called = about a couple of months earlier. Quite a job. -josh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 14 12:47:24 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14677; Tue, 14 May 96 12:47:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22852; Tue, 14 May 1996 12:45:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 14 May 1996 12:39:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22378; Tue, 14 May 1996 12:39:23 -0400 Received: from next.agsm.ucla.edu (next.agsm.ucla.edu [164.67.164.164]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22372; Tue, 14 May 1996 12:39:20 -0400 Received: by next.agsm.ucla.edu (NX5.67g/NeXT-1.0(KJW-19Apr90)) id AA04423; Tue, 14 May 96 09:39:15 -0700 Message-Id: <9605141639.AA04423@next.agsm.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.0 v141) Content-Type: text/plain X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.0 (Enhance 2.0b1) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.141) From: Ivo Welch Date: Tue, 14 May 96 09:39:14 -0700 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: What 1.3GB drives will work in 755cx? Reply-To: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu I have an old TP disk-enclosure from a 170MB 2.5" hard disk, and would like to replace the disk inside with a 1.3GB 2.5" disk. If someone has hooked up a 1.3GB to a 755CX, or knows what IBM is selling inside the enclosure (if they are selling 1.3GB disks), please let me/us know. Regards, /ivo welch From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 14 14:30:47 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20279; Tue, 14 May 96 14:30:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00969; Tue, 14 May 1996 14:27:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 14 May 1996 14:24:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00555; Tue, 14 May 1996 14:24:45 -0400 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00549; Tue, 14 May 1996 14:24:43 -0400 Received: from Thinkpad 755 (ppp2.yreka.snowcrest.net [204.94.224.34]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA19412 for ; Tue, 14 May 1996 11:24:38 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 11:24:38 -0700 Message-Id: <199605141824.LAA19412@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: beesong@snowcrest.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Kate Bauer Subject: speaker static I've had a constant problem with static in my 755CD's right speaker--it does it all the time, not just when the speaker is emitting (wanted) sound. It came back from EZ Serve repair in worse condition than it went in. It's so aggravating now that I find myself wanting to smash the case around the keyboard with my fist just to get it to shut up. Has anyone else had this same problem? Any suggestions on what to do about it? Also, on the 32-bit CD-ROM drivers, I've been unable to locate them on the Microsoft site for downloading. In fact, I was told by their tech support that they weren't writing any 32-bit drivers for the 755CD. Obviously other folks on this list are using these drivers, though--so they must be out there. I'd appreciate it if someone would post the URL for finding them. Many thanks, Kate From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 14 15:00:40 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21186; Tue, 14 May 96 15:00:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03652; Tue, 14 May 1996 14:57:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 14 May 1996 14:56:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03495; Tue, 14 May 1996 14:55:57 -0400 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au (anugpo.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03487; Tue, 14 May 1996 14:55:53 -0400 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id EAA11454 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 04:55:45 +1000 From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id EAA22558; Wed, 15 May 1996 04:55:43 +1000 Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 04:55:42 +1000 (EST) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: thinkpads competitive yet? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i have been travelling and dropped off the list to keep my mailbox from overflowing during the 6 weeks i couldn't look at it very easily. question: is ibm showing any signs of retaking the leading position in notebooks again? toshiba seems to have leapfrogged them, eg, pci bus, at least for the moment. regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 14 18:14:35 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29264; Tue, 14 May 96 18:14:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20479; Tue, 14 May 1996 18:10:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 14 May 1996 18:03:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19766; Tue, 14 May 1996 18:03:01 -0400 Received: from piedmont.net (piedmont.net [205.245.76.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19750; Tue, 14 May 1996 18:02:55 -0400 Received: from tstaples (d18.piedmont.net [205.245.76.58]) by piedmont.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA05476; Tue, 14 May 1996 18:02:25 -0400 Message-Id: <199605142202.SAA05476@piedmont.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Tony Staples" To: Kate Bauer Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 18:01:19 +0000 Subject: Re: speaker static Reply-To: tstaples@piedmont.net Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.31) > Also, on the 32-bit CD-ROM drivers, I've been unable to locate them on the > Microsoft site for downloading. In fact, I was told by their tech support > that they weren't writing any 32-bit drivers for the 755CD. Obviously other > folks on this list are using these drivers, though--so they must be out > there. I'd appreciate it if someone would post the URL for finding them. > > Many thanks, > Kate Kate, The 32 bit CD driver comes with Windows 95. The CD in the 755CD is a standard IDE interface (ATAPI). The generic 32 bit IDE driver works just fine with it. Good luck. Tony Staples Motion Motorsports mr.horsepower@piedmont.net Three time ROAR National Champs! "Nothing like a little horsepower to brighten your day!" From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 14 19:58:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05054; Tue, 14 May 96 19:58:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27205; Tue, 14 May 1996 19:57:12 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 14 May 1996 19:55:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26954; Tue, 14 May 1996 19:55:09 -0400 Received: from girch301.med.uth.tmc.edu (girch301.med.uth.tmc.edu [129.106.8.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26942; Tue, 14 May 1996 19:55:07 -0400 Message-Id: <199605142355.TAA26942@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from urol29 (urol29.med.uth.tmc.edu) by girch301.med.uth.tmc.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA165127849; Tue, 14 May 1996 18:50:49 -0500 X-Sender: hprice@girch301.med.uth.tmc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 18:59:06 -0500 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: hprice@girch301.med.uth.tmc.edu (Howard Price) Subject: Re: modem/telnet connection I have a similar problem of trumpet hanging up when using Netscape 1.22 to dial in to the university PPP. I was told the host had a timeout; to maintain the connection, you need to set up a ping to keep the connection active more often than the timeout. >At 10:36 AM 5/13/96, Christian N Michalek wrote: >>I recently installed win95 on my 701C and have no problems connecting to >>my University. However, now when I use use trumpet telnet it hangs after >>about five minutes and I have to exit the program and re-login. I have >>tried several other shareware telnet apps and all seem to have the same >>effect. I never had this problem under win 3.11. >> >>Also only telnet is affected turbogopher and netscape nor any other net app >>is affected. >> >>any insight? > > I don't have a clue what it might be, but have you tried the >"telnet" app that comes with Win '95? Its nothing to brag about in terms >of features, but its 32-bit and might give you another comparison. > > >----- >Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle >USC Graduate School of Business > > Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" >The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle >interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche >--is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. > - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 > > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 14 20:53:09 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08003; Tue, 14 May 96 20:53:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01288; Tue, 14 May 1996 20:51:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 14 May 1996 20:50:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01069; Tue, 14 May 1996 20:50:31 -0400 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01051; Tue, 14 May 1996 20:50:28 -0400 Received: from Thinkpad 755 (ppp7.yreka.snowcrest.net [204.94.224.39]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA03108 for ; Tue, 14 May 1996 17:50:29 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 17:50:29 -0700 Message-Id: <199605150050.RAA03108@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: beesong@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Kate Bauer Subject: speaker static thanks Thanks for the various suggestions on the speaker static in my 755CD. Ziggy, I sure hope they DO send you that 760ED--keep us posted. I was hoping for a solution that wouldn't involve yet another trip to EZ Serve--this unit is my financial lifeline, and being without it even a week has been unbearable. Erik, no nothing else (RCA plugs, docking station, etc.) is attached to the unit. Has anyone tried disassembling the speaker and resetting it? I'd like to hear any results before trying that. Kate From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 14 20:53:24 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08008; Tue, 14 May 96 20:53:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01298; Tue, 14 May 1996 20:52:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 14 May 1996 20:50:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01123; Tue, 14 May 1996 20:50:45 -0400 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01099; Tue, 14 May 1996 20:50:37 -0400 Received: from Thinkpad 755 (ppp7.yreka.snowcrest.net [204.94.224.39]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA03113 for ; Tue, 14 May 1996 17:50:33 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 17:50:33 -0700 Message-Id: <199605150050.RAA03113@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: beesong@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Kate Bauer Subject: Pac Bell digital impact? Pacific Bell has announced that they are changing to digital equipment and say that my impact computer equipment/modems. Any other Thinkpad owners who are also subscribers to Pacific Bell? The equipment they're installing is AT&T 5ESS equipment, if that information is necessary for advice. How will this change affect Mwave/DSP units? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 15 00:28:17 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20792; Wed, 15 May 96 00:28:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17518; Wed, 15 May 1996 00:26:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 15 May 1996 00:23:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17137; Wed, 15 May 1996 00:23:55 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17130; Wed, 15 May 1996 00:23:52 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #4) id m0uJY6A-000JS1C; Tue, 14 May 96 22:22 MDT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960515042347.00c30f84@[166.93.8.14]> X-Sender: ssh@[166.93.8.14] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 22:23:47 -0600 To: Kate Bauer , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Steve Hultquist Subject: Re: Pac Bell digital impact? At 05:50 PM 5/14/96 -0700, Kate Bauer wrote: >Pacific Bell has announced that they are changing to digital equipment and >say that my impact computer equipment/modems. Any other Thinkpad owners who >are also subscribers to Pacific Bell? The equipment they're installing is >AT&T 5ESS equipment, if that information is necessary for advice. How will >this change affect Mwave/DSP units? Shouldn't effect analog calls (using a modem) at all, as far as I can tell. the 5ESS has been around for a while and is a pretty nice switch. Cheers, ssh -- Steve Hultquist Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Web, Internet, LANs, WANs, Routing, Switching, Unix, PCs, NT, 95, OS/2 Specialists in temporary and demonstration environments http://www.wwsi.com/ 303.581.0800 Boulder, Colorado, USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 15 05:30:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02537; Wed, 15 May 96 05:30:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA10190; Wed, 15 May 1996 05:25:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 15 May 1996 05:21:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA08904; Wed, 15 May 1996 05:21:41 -0400 Received: from igate.ska.com (firewall-user@igate.ska.com [198.240.202.195]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA08830; Wed, 15 May 1996 05:21:26 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by igate.ska.com (8.7.3/8.6.11) id LAA13914; Wed, 15 May 1996 11:15:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mx1.ska.com(159.122.160.4) by igate.ska.com via smap (g3.0.3) id xma013912; Wed, 15 May 96 11:15:39 +0200 Received: from firestorm.foa.ska.com (firestorm.foa.ska.com [159.122.18.221]) by mx1.ska.com (8.7.5+phmap-1.3/8.7.3/MX1-02-APR-96) with ESMTP id LAA09368; Wed, 15 May 1996 11:20:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from fs@localhost) by firestorm.foa.ska.com (8.6.12+phmap-1.2/8.6.9) id LAA07289; Wed, 15 May 1996 11:19:20 +0200 Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 11:19:20 +0200 From: Frank Sheeran Message-Id: <199605150919.LAA07289@firestorm.foa.ska.com> To: beesong@snowcrest.net, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: speaker static thanks Do you really need the speaker output? You could give it a voxectomy by jabbing through grill with a paperclip or a strightpin, severing the cone from the magnet. That of course if you can't find another way to get in there. Or, you could try working in louder places. I've recently started doing most of my coding on trains in the alps. (no louder than crosscountry trains, but better view) If you play constant music, say, does the static make it sound like the speaker wires have an intermittently open connection? If so, replace the wires (or unplug it). Frank, whose computer has taken vows of silence (under duress) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 15 05:41:15 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03143; Wed, 15 May 96 05:41:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA12284; Wed, 15 May 1996 05:31:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 15 May 1996 05:30:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA11850; Wed, 15 May 1996 05:30:35 -0400 Received: from borg.mindspring.com (borg.mindspring.com [204.180.128.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA11831; Wed, 15 May 1996 05:30:33 -0400 Received: from eldorado.mindspring.com [204.180.131.28] by borg.mindspring.com with ESMTP id FAA13260 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 05:30:29 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by eldorado (SMI-8.6/8.6.12) id FAA04623; Wed, 15 May 1996 05:29:22 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 05:29:22 -0400 Message-Id: <199605150929.FAA04623@eldorado> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: seibm6r8@ibmmail.com Reply-To: seibm6r8@ibmmail.com X-Remote-Host: 193.12.214.1 (193.12.214.1) Subject: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu How can I get off this list ??? been trying for weeks to find the right info ... From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 15 08:16:48 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08887; Wed, 15 May 96 08:16:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22561; Wed, 15 May 1996 08:14:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 15 May 1996 08:11:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22405; Wed, 15 May 1996 08:11:25 -0400 Received: from jumbo.read.tasc.com (jumbo.read.tasc.com [147.81.244.117]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22398; Wed, 15 May 1996 08:11:22 -0400 Received: by jumbo.read.tasc.com (5.x/PRAT[SECURE-2.8]) id AA02639; Wed, 15 May 1996 08:10:27 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 08:10:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Shemo To: Alden S Klovdahl Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpads competitive yet? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 15 May 1996, Alden S Klovdahl wrote: > i have been travelling and dropped off the list to keep my mailbox from > overflowing during the 6 weeks i couldn't look at it very easily. > > question: is ibm showing any signs of retaking the leading position in > notebooks again? toshiba seems to have leapfrogged them, eg, pci bus, at > least for the moment. > I don't know about the rest of the software industry, but I just got a 760CD and it has a major problem with crashing(hanging) when connected to a network (ie:active communication card) when on battery power. Also out of 3 thinkpads that came in, 2 of them had to be EZ-served within 24hrs of use. These problems have caused my company to stop ordering Thinkpads and only order Toshibas now, which they have had more luck with. I don't think that they are willing to try the ED or any other TP after the bad luck they've had with the 760's. Bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert E. Shemo TASC reshemo@tasc.com 55 Walkers Brook Dr. Voice: (617)942-2000 x3405 Reading, MA 01867 Fax: (617)942-7100 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 15 09:54:06 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14770; Wed, 15 May 96 09:54:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02033; Wed, 15 May 1996 09:53:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 15 May 1996 09:48:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01476; Wed, 15 May 1996 09:48:12 -0400 Received: from THINK2.LAKEHEADU.CA ([205.189.35.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01470; Wed, 15 May 1996 09:48:07 -0400 Received: from flash.LakeheadU.Ca by THINK2.LAKEHEADU.CA (PMDF V4.3-10 #6489) id <01I4QB171OBK8ZF6IE@THINK2.LAKEHEADU.CA>; Wed, 15 May 1996 09:48:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by flash.LakeheadU.Ca (4.1/SMI-3.0DEV3) id AA15043; Wed, 15 May 96 09:46:52 EST Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 09:46:52 -0500 (EST) From: bivanovi@FLASH.LakeheadU.CA (Boris) Subject: New Member needs mass storage... To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <9605151446.AA15043@flash.LakeheadU.Ca> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hello, I recently got a ThinkPad 701C with 8 MB RAM and a 720 Million Byte (what a scam) Hard Drive. Least to say I though I got a good deal on it until I saw the new cheapo Pentium laptops. :( I'm looking to get somekind of removable mass storage. At the current time I'm considering the HP TapeBackup that plugs into the parallel port. I considered the ZipDrive, but 100MB is too small, and the disks are rather expensive. Could someone suggest something I could buy that will work with the 701? I would consider MO, but I'm not sure about the price and which brands are worth considering. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Boris From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 15 10:25:32 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16982; Wed, 15 May 96 10:25:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04889; Wed, 15 May 1996 10:24:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 15 May 1996 10:22:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04712; Wed, 15 May 1996 10:22:50 -0400 Received: from tuna.mit.edu (TUNA.MIT.EDU [18.250.0.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04706; Wed, 15 May 1996 10:22:49 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) id KAA04447; Wed, 15 May 1996 10:23:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 10:23:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: Kate Bauer Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Pac Bell digital impact? In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960515042347.00c30f84@[166.93.8.14]> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 14 May 1996, Steve Hultquist wrote: > At 05:50 PM 5/14/96 -0700, Kate Bauer wrote: > > > >Pacific Bell has announced that they are changing to digital equipment and > >say that my impact computer equipment/modems. Any other Thinkpad owners who > >are also subscribers to Pacific Bell? The equipment they're installing is > >AT&T 5ESS equipment, if that information is necessary for advice. How will > >this change affect Mwave/DSP units? > > Shouldn't effect analog calls (using a modem) at all, as far as I can tell. > the 5ESS has been around for a while and is a pretty nice switch. MIT uses the 5ESS for its internal phone network including dorm phones. I've had no problems dialing within the system on my TP750 and PCMCIA 14.4 fax/modem. -- John H. Kim There are only two industries that call their jokim@mit.edu customers 'users,' and one of them is illegal. jokim@tuna.mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 15 10:32:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17469; Wed, 15 May 96 10:32:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05638; Wed, 15 May 1996 10:31:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 15 May 1996 10:30:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05498; Wed, 15 May 1996 10:30:53 -0400 Received: from balder.ssds.com (balder.ssds.com [204.131.72.62]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05490; Wed, 15 May 1996 10:30:49 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by balder.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) id IAA22208; Wed, 15 May 1996 08:30:39 -0600 Received: from denver(134.127.16.1) by balder via smap (V1.3) id sma022204; Wed May 15 08:30:20 1996 Received: by denver.ssds.com id IAA26068; Wed, 15 May 1996 08:30:16 -0600 (MDT) From: chris.liljenstolpe@ssds.com (Christopher Liljenstolpe) To: "John H. Kim" Cc: Kate Bauer , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Pac Bell digital impact? Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 14:27:11 GMT Sender: chris.liljenstolpe@ssds.com Organization: SSDS, Inc. Reply-To: chris.liljenstolpe@ssds.com Message-Id: <3199e98a.7465913@denver.ssds.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Greetings, It will have no effect on analog calls. If you have ISDN, then it might be an issue in that the ISDN TA you have may need to be tweaked. However, in any case, no damage would be done. -+Chris On Wed, 15 May 1996 10:23:02 -0400 (EDT), the sage "John H. Kim" scribed: >On Tue, 14 May 1996, Steve Hultquist wrote: >> At 05:50 PM 5/14/96 -0700, Kate Bauer wrote: >> > >> >Pacific Bell has announced that they are changing to digital equipment and >> >say that my impact computer equipment/modems. Any other Thinkpad owners who >> >are also subscribers to Pacific Bell? The equipment they're installing is >> >AT&T 5ESS equipment, if that information is necessary for advice. How will >> >this change affect Mwave/DSP units? >> >> Shouldn't effect analog calls (using a modem) at all, as far as I can tell. >> the 5ESS has been around for a while and is a pretty nice switch. > >MIT uses the 5ESS for its internal phone network including dorm phones. >I've had no problems dialing within the system on my TP750 and PCMCIA >14.4 fax/modem. >-- >John H. Kim There are only two industries that call their >jokim@mit.edu customers 'users,' and one of them is illegal. >jokim@tuna.mit.edu > > -- ( ( | ( Chris Liljenstolpe ) ) (| ), inc. SSDS, Inc; 8400 Normandale Lake Blvd.; Suite 993 business driven Bloomington, MN 55437; technology solutions TEL 612.921.2392 FAX 612.921.2395 Fram Fram Free! PGP Key 1024/E8546BD5 FE 43 BD A6 3C 13 6C DB 89 B3 E4 A1 BF 6D 2A A9 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 15 15:14:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27878; Wed, 15 May 96 15:14:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01508; Wed, 15 May 1996 15:10:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 15 May 1996 15:02:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00707; Wed, 15 May 1996 15:02:55 -0400 Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00695; Wed, 15 May 1996 15:02:38 -0400 From: Received: by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA01470; Wed, 15 May 1996 15:00:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 15:00:35 -0400 Message-Id: <960515150033_535827492@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: What 1.3GB drives will work in 755cx? In a message dated 96-05-14 12:48:12 EDT, you write: >I have an old TP disk-enclosure from a 170MB 2.5" hard disk, and would >like to replace the disk inside with a 1.3GB 2.5" disk. If someone has >hooked up a 1.3GB to a 755CX, or knows what IBM is selling inside the >enclosure (if they are selling 1.3GB disks), please let me/us know. > >Regards, > >/ivo welch > > Hi Ivo, The Toshiba MK1301MAV will work in the existing caddy. The Toshba MK2720FC will fit, but some modification will be needed since it is a 19mm drive and the case was designed for 17mm or less. We do have access to a proprietary metal case that supports the 19mm drive. IBM ships a 1.2GB IBM drive. Best Regards, Leonard email: pepsales@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM 800-737-7693 714-418-0113 Tel 714-418-0117 Fax Up to 1.3GB in your Notebook! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 15 15:40:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28880; Wed, 15 May 96 15:40:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03475; Wed, 15 May 1996 15:31:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 15 May 1996 15:31:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03354; Wed, 15 May 1996 15:31:05 -0400 Received: from dragon.cnm.columbia.edu (dragon.cnm.columbia.edu [128.59.192.114]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03347; Wed, 15 May 1996 15:31:00 -0400 Received: from milou.jrn.columbia.edu (milou.jrn.columbia.edu [128.59.192.33]) by dragon.cnm.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9/sed) with SMTP id PAA04571; Wed, 15 May 1996 15:30:48 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960515192917.00721658@dragon.jrn.columbia.edu> X-Sender: yann@dragon.jrn.columbia.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 15:29:17 -0400 To: bivanovi@FLASH.LakeheadU.CA (Boris), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Yann Nicolas Subject: Re: New Member needs mass storage... >I recently got a ThinkPad 701C with 8 MB RAM and a 720 Million Byte >(what a scam) Hard Drive. Least to say I though I got a good deal Huh? What do you mean a scam? I got my 701C last Thursday (with 16 megs and 360 HD) and I love it. I had a ThinkPad 500 for 2 years and trust me color and sound make a difference... My point is, the 701 is still a laptop. If you really wanted real mass storage, you shouldn't have gotten a laptop in the first place. Get a SCSI-based PC and get 9 gig drives for it... As for my TP, 360 is a little small so I ordered a 720, but that should be sufficicient for most laptop use... >I considered the ZipDrive, but 100MB is too small, and the disks are >rather expensive. That's what I use (at home and work) and I love it. If you have the cash you could spring for the Jaz drive (from Iomega as well)... It cost $599 (for the external version), but each disk (well more like cartridge) hold 1 gig and is as fast as today's hard drives... -- Yann Nicolas Systems Coordinator -- Columbia Graduate School of Journalism nicolas@columbia.edu -- http://www.columbia.edu/~yn25/soccer.html From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 15 17:14:12 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05160; Wed, 15 May 96 17:14:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11396; Wed, 15 May 1996 16:53:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 15 May 1996 16:51:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11206; Wed, 15 May 1996 16:51:19 -0400 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11200; Wed, 15 May 1996 16:51:17 -0400 Received: from [128.125.224.42] (comserv-h-42.usc.edu [128.125.224.42]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id NAA11037; Wed, 15 May 1996 13:50:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 13:51:09 -0700 To: bivanovi@FLASH.LakeheadU.CA (Boris), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: New Member needs mass storage... At 9:46 AM 5/15/96, Boris wrote: >I'm looking to get somekind of removable mass storage. At the current >time I'm considering the HP TapeBackup that plugs into the parallel >port. > >I considered the ZipDrive, but 100MB is too small, and the disks are >rather expensive. > >Could someone suggest something I could buy that will work with the 701? >I would consider MO, but I'm not sure about the price and which brands >are worth considering. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Pinnacle Micro is probably the main leader in MO, mainly in terms of performance characteristics. However, they're not cheap. And what will likely be their flagship product, the Apex drive which holds 4.6 GB on a cartridge, has been delayed about 6 months now. Nevertheless, I'd look at their products if I wanted MO. Otherwise, if you want "large" at a cheaper price, look at Iomega's Jaz drive--about $600 for an external SCSI and another $100 or so for a 1 GB removable cartridge. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche --is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 15 19:29:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12710; Wed, 15 May 96 19:29:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24691; Wed, 15 May 1996 19:27:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 15 May 1996 19:19:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24007; Wed, 15 May 1996 19:19:16 -0400 Received: from THINK2.LAKEHEADU.CA (think2.lakeheadu.ca [205.189.35.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24001; Wed, 15 May 1996 19:19:14 -0400 Received: from flash.LakeheadU.Ca by THINK2.LAKEHEADU.CA (PMDF V4.3-10 #6489) id <01I4QUZ1I0CW8ZFPUO@THINK2.LAKEHEADU.CA>; Wed, 15 May 1996 19:19:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by flash.LakeheadU.Ca (4.1/SMI-3.0DEV3) id AA12953; Wed, 15 May 96 19:17:47 EST Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 19:15:40 -0500 (EST) From: Boris Subject: Re: New Member needs mass storage... In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960515192917.00721658@dragon.jrn.columbia.edu> To: Yann Nicolas Cc: Boris , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT On Wed, 15 May 1996, Yann Nicolas wrote: > > >I recently got a ThinkPad 701C with 8 MB RAM and a 720 Million Byte > >(what a scam) Hard Drive. Least to say I though I got a good deal > > Huh? What do you mean a scam? I got my 701C last Thursday (with 16 megs and Well, I meant the million byte MB versus Megabyte is a scam, on IBMs part... > That's what I use (at home and work) and I love it. If you have the cash you > could spring for the Jaz drive (from Iomega as well)... It cost $599 (for > the external version), but each disk (well more like cartridge) hold 1 gig > and is as fast as today's hard drives... Is it as fast, thru the parallel port... I'd consider it,how much is the cartridge for that. Much appreciated. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 15 19:52:30 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14228; Wed, 15 May 96 19:52:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26164; Wed, 15 May 1996 19:51:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 15 May 1996 19:50:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25919; Wed, 15 May 1996 19:50:00 -0400 Received: from gemini.adnc.com (gemini.adnc.com [205.216.138.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25910; Wed, 15 May 1996 19:49:57 -0400 Received: from adnline610.adnc.com by gemini.adnc.com (SMI-8.6/SVR4 Mailer ADN 1/96) id QAA19517; Wed, 15 May 1996 16:49:48 -0700 Received: by adnline610.adnc.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BB427E.AD21B300@adnline610.adnc.com>; Wed, 15 May 1996 16:50:52 -0700 Message-Id: <01BB427E.AD21B300@adnline610.adnc.com> From: Joshua Gerber To: "ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu" , "'PEPSales@aol.com'" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: What 1.3GB drives will work in 755cx? Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 16:49:21 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use the 19mm model with the caddy modification, and as I've said = before, the disk controller is incompatible with the TP power management = - no suspend or hibernate any more :( Re: Jaz drives Don't forget that the Jaz, unlike the Zip, only comes with SCSI--you'd = need to buy the PC card SCSI interface for it at additional cost. But = they are wickedly fast... -j ---------- From: PEPSales@aol.com[SMTP:PEPSales@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 1996 12:00 PM To: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: What 1.3GB drives will work in 755cx? In a message dated 96-05-14 12:48:12 EDT, you write: >I have an old TP disk-enclosure from a 170MB 2.5" hard disk, and would = >like to replace the disk inside with a 1.3GB 2.5" disk. If someone has = =20 >hooked up a 1.3GB to a 755CX, or knows what IBM is selling inside the =20 >enclosure (if they are selling 1.3GB disks), please let me/us know. > >Regards, > >/ivo welch > > Hi Ivo, The Toshiba MK1301MAV will work in the existing caddy. The Toshba = MK2720FC will fit, but some modification will be needed since it is a 19mm drive = and the case was designed for 17mm or less. We do have access to a = proprietary metal case that supports the 19mm drive. IBM ships a 1.2GB IBM drive. Best Regards, Leonard email: pepsales@portables.com Portable Enhancements The Portable Upgrade ExpertsTM 800-737-7693 714-418-0113 Tel 714-418-0117 Fax Up to 1.3GB in your Notebook! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 16 04:32:31 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05101; Thu, 16 May 96 04:32:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02984; Thu, 16 May 1996 04:30:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 16 May 1996 04:26:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02705; Thu, 16 May 1996 04:26:38 -0400 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA02699; Thu, 16 May 1996 04:26:36 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA84833 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 08:26:34 GMT Message-Id: <199605160826.IAA84833@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip139-92-52-90.vi.at.ibm.net(139.92.52.90) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma6UwLM2; Thu May 16 08:26:28 1996 From: "Siegfried Hanisch" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Thu, 16 May 96 09:59:21 +0100 Reply-To: "Siegfried Hanisch" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Siegfried Hanisch's Registered PMMail 1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: PCMCIA Ethernet adapter problem Hi! I just bought a PCMCIA Ethernet adapter (SureCom EtherPerfect EP-427). There is a diskette with an OS/2 driver which is a Windows(!) program (according to EXEHDR, and it has the Win-stub in it ("this program req M$ win").). Besides, there are lost clusters on the disk. Very strange. Has anyone successfully used this adapter under OS/2 (Connect). It should be NE2000 comaptible, as soon as the above driver has run. In the Plug&Play object, the card is identified as "TAMARACK Ethernet A". I searched the WWW for drivers, but without success. Any help appreciated! PS: I have a TP 701CS. Greetings # They shoot without shame Siegfried Hanisch # In the name of a piece of dirt =====================================# For a change of accent siegfried.hanisch@ibm.net # Or the colour of your shirt ssaver@ibm.net (ScreenSaver support) # Better the pride that resides =====================================# In a citizen of the world http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e8925811/ # Than the pride that divides PGP public key available # Team OS/2 # When a colourful rag is unfurled RUSH Support the Blue Ribbon Campaign for Online Free Speech! http://www.eff.org/blueribbon.html From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 16 08:32:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14791; Thu, 16 May 96 08:32:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA23399; Thu, 16 May 1996 08:31:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 16 May 1996 08:27:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22475; Thu, 16 May 1996 08:27:04 -0400 Received: from lotus.com (lotus.com [192.233.136.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22458; Thu, 16 May 1996 08:27:00 -0400 Received: from internet1.lotus.com (crd2.lotus.com) by lotus.com (4.1/SMI-4.10801.1994) id AA20700; Thu, 16 May 96 08:48:52 EDT Received: by internet1.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA16749; Thu, 16 May 1996 08:19:38 -0400 Message-Id: <9605161219.AA16749@internet1.lotus.com> Received: by Lotus (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V.03 Beta) id 775165EA2A29E1C00525632C0049BFE9; Thu, 16 May 96 08:19:37 EDT To: "Siegfried Hanisch" Cc: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" From: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus Date: 16 May 96 8:27:11 EDT Subject: Re: PCMCIA Ethernet adapter problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain I'd say check with manufacturer. Sounds like you got a bad disk. If they don't respond, I'd send the card back and get a 'real' one ;) -Bill Abt -Team OS/2 - Warping with Merlin siegfried.hanisch @ ibm.net ("Siegfried Hanisch") 05-16-96 08:59 AM To: thinkpad @ cs.utk.edu ("thinkpad@cs.utk.edu") @ INTERNET cc: (bcc: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus) Subject: PCMCIA Ethernet adapter problem Hi! I just bought a PCMCIA Ethernet adapter (SureCom EtherPerfect EP-427). There is a diskette with an OS/2 driver which is a Windows(!) program (according to EXEHDR, and it has the Win-stub in it ("this program req M$ win").). Besides, there are lost clusters on the disk. Very strange. Has anyone successfully used this adapter under OS/2 (Connect). It should be NE2000 comaptible, as soon as the above driver has run. In the Plug&Play object, the card is identified as "TAMARACK Ethernet A". I searched the WWW for drivers, but without success. Any help appreciated! PS: I have a TP 701CS. Greetings # They shoot without shame Siegfried Hanisch # In the name of a piece of dirt =====================================# For a change of accent siegfried.hanisch@ibm.net # Or the colour of your shirt ssaver@ibm.net (ScreenSaver support) # Better the pride that resides =====================================# In a citizen of the world http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e8925811/ # Than the pride that divides PGP public key available # Team OS/2 # When a colourful rag is unfurled RUSH Support the Blue Ribbon Campaign for Online Free Speech! http://www.eff.org/blueribbon.html From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 16 13:10:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25928; Thu, 16 May 96 13:10:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20051; Thu, 16 May 1996 13:09:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 16 May 1996 13:05:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19706; Thu, 16 May 1996 13:05:52 -0400 Received: from chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU (chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.33.120]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19694; Thu, 16 May 1996 13:05:46 -0400 Received: (from steverod@localhost) by chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA24864; Thu, 16 May 1996 10:06:06 -0700 From: Steve Rodrigues Message-Id: <199605161706.KAA24864@chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: Hard Disk sizes (was: New Member needs mass storage) To: bivanovi@FLASH.LakeheadU.CA (Boris) Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 10:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: from "Boris" at May 15, 96 07:15:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Boris wrote: > > >I recently got a ThinkPad 701C with 8 MB RAM and a 720 Million Byte > > >(what a scam) Hard Drive. Least to say I though I got a good deal ...> > Well, I meant the million byte MB versus Megabyte is a scam, on IBMs > part... This is a general scam on the part of disk manufacturers; IBM is merely following everyone else's lead. My 420MB drive magically became 405, my 1.6GB is 1525 MB, or about 1.49GB in reality. This is the Way Things Are Done, like it or not. While IBM is not clean in the matter, they're not trying to pull any more of a fast one than any one else. (Now, historically, this may be IBM's fault, but that's not what I saw you commenting on.) Steve -- Steve Rodrigues | Lost, yesterday, somewhere between sunrise and Expatriate Texan | sunset, two golden hours, each set with sixty UC Berkeley, Dept. of EECS | diamond minutes. No reward is offered, for they steverod@cs.berkeley.edu | are gone forever. -- Horace Mann From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 16 16:40:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05181; Thu, 16 May 96 16:40:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09355; Thu, 16 May 1996 16:37:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 16 May 1996 16:31:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08753; Thu, 16 May 1996 16:31:53 -0400 Received: from postoffice5.mail.cornell.edu (POSTOFFICE5.MAIL.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.56.16]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08744; Thu, 16 May 1996 16:31:50 -0400 Received: from CU-DIALUP-1110.CIT.CORNELL.EDU (CU-DIALUP-1110.CIT.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.155.152]) by postoffice5.mail.cornell.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA05090 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 16:28:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CU-DIALUP-1110.CIT.CORNELL.EDU with Microsoft Mail id <01BB4344.F02033E0@CU-DIALUP-1110.CIT.CORNELL.EDU>; Thu, 16 May 1996 16:30:04 -0400 Message-Id: <01BB4344.F02033E0@CU-DIALUP-1110.CIT.CORNELL.EDU> From: Marshall Lai To: "'Think Pad'" Subject: TP701C Caddy Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 16:29:30 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have bought a hard disk but it doesn't come with the caddy to fit in the TP701C. Does anyone know where I can get such a caddy? Marshall Email:mtl1@cornell.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 16 17:10:31 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06858; Thu, 16 May 96 17:10:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12421; Thu, 16 May 1996 17:09:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 16 May 1996 17:07:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12223; Thu, 16 May 1996 17:07:18 -0400 Received: from dragon.cnm.columbia.edu (dragon.cnm.columbia.edu [128.59.192.114]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12217; Thu, 16 May 1996 17:07:09 -0400 Received: from milou.jrn.columbia.edu (milou.jrn.columbia.edu [128.59.192.33]) by dragon.cnm.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9/sed) with SMTP id RAA19378; Thu, 16 May 1996 17:07:02 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960516210529.00c10f50@dragon.jrn.columbia.edu> X-Sender: yann@dragon.jrn.columbia.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 17:05:29 -0400 To: Marshall Lai , "'Think Pad'" From: Yann Nicolas Subject: Re: TP701C Caddy > I have bought a hard disk but it doesn't come with the caddy to fit in the TP701C. Does anyone know where I can get such a caddy? Welcome to the club! I got my 720 megs yesterday and I had to swap the caddy off my 360 megs... Kind of a pain in the ass, but... If anybody knows of a source, I'd love to get one... BTW, for those wandering, you need a Korx 6 screwdriver to get those screws off the caddy. -- Yann Nicolas Systems Coordinator -- Columbia Graduate School of Journalism nicolas@columbia.edu -- http://www.columbia.edu/~yn25/soccer.html From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 16 18:00:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11182; Thu, 16 May 96 18:00:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17138; Thu, 16 May 1996 17:57:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 16 May 1996 17:55:51 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16758; Thu, 16 May 1996 17:55:48 -0400 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16738; Thu, 16 May 1996 17:55:41 -0400 Received: from Thinkpad 755 (ppp9.yreka.snowcrest.net [204.94.224.41]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA11126 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 14:55:42 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 14:55:42 -0700 Message-Id: <199605162155.OAA11126@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: beesong@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Kate Bauer Subject: speaker static fix >As a quick fix you can put a "blank" stereo jack in the >headset out; ie no wires. > >We used to do this with PowerBooks here to keep them quiet >during meetings. Ed, this is a fabulous idea, and I can't imagine why I didn't think of it--excellent! Many thanks, Kate From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 16 20:23:59 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18805; Thu, 16 May 96 20:23:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26268; Thu, 16 May 1996 20:22:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 16 May 1996 20:16:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25798; Thu, 16 May 1996 20:16:12 -0400 Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25792; Thu, 16 May 1996 20:16:09 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA03120; Thu, 16 May 96 20:13:58 EDT Date: Thu, 16 May 96 20:13:58 EDT From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9605170013.AA03120@nile.gnat.com> To: bivanovi@flash.lakeheadu.ca, steverod@cs.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: Hard Disk sizes (was: New Member needs mass storage) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu "This is a general scam on the part of disk manufacturers; IBM is merely following everyone else's lead. My 420MB drive magically became 405, my 1.6GB is 1525 MB, or about 1.49GB in reality. This is the Way Things Are Done, like it or not. " I don't find this a scam, it is well defined, and more convenient than blindly folowing the usual 1024 = 1000 method (whichis after all the non-standard definition!) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 17 13:29:11 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00136; Fri, 17 May 96 13:29:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14875; Fri, 17 May 1996 13:24:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 17 May 1996 13:17:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14214; Fri, 17 May 1996 13:17:07 -0400 Received: from vbbuslnx1.tc.cc.va.us (root@[164.106.215.250]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14206; Fri, 17 May 1996 13:16:52 -0400 Received: from vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us (vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us [164.106.215.200]) by vbbuslnx1.tc.cc.va.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA00210 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 12:45:34 -0400 Received: from SERVER1/MAILQ by vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us (Mercury 1.21); 17 May 96 13:15:39 +1100 Received: from MAILQ by SERVER1 (Mercury 1.21); 17 May 96 13:15:35 +1100 From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 13:15:12 EST Subject: Re: Hard Disk sizes (was: New Member needs mass storage) Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <5DEEFB95E1C@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us> > Date sent: Thu, 16 May 96 20:13:58 EDT > From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) > To: bivanovi@flash.lakeheadu.ca, steverod@cs.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: Hard Disk sizes (was: New Member needs mass storage) > Copies to: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > "This is a general scam on the part of disk manufacturers; IBM is merely > following everyone else's lead. My 420MB drive magically became 405, my > 1.6GB is 1525 MB, or about 1.49GB in reality. This is the Way Things > Are Done, like it or not. > " > > I don't find this a scam, it is well defined, and more convenient than > blindly folowing the usual 1024 = 1000 method (whichis after all > the non-standard definition!) > Since when is the definition K = 2^10 (1024) non-standard IN RELATION TO COMPUTERS? Do you measure your computer's memory in powers of 10? All the harddisk manufacturers are doing is confusing the general public by using one value for K for harddisks and another for anything else to do with a computer. My .02 worth. Pete From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 17 14:05:30 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02765; Fri, 17 May 96 14:05:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18715; Fri, 17 May 1996 14:02:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 17 May 1996 14:01:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18544; Fri, 17 May 1996 14:01:35 -0400 Received: from cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov (cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.152.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18533; Fri, 17 May 1996 14:01:33 -0400 Received: from bnme (bnme.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.152.138]) by cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA15606; Fri, 17 May 1996 14:01:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 14:01:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960517140152.16af312c@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov> X-Sender: bnm@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: bnm@ornl.gov (Brooks N. McNeely) Subject: Re: Hard Disk sizes (was: New Member needs mass storage) At 01:15 PM 5/17/96 EST, Peter W. Borders wrote: >Since when is the definition K = 2^10 (1024) non-standard IN RELATION >TO COMPUTERS? Do you measure your computer's memory in powers of 10? >All the harddisk manufacturers are doing is confusing the general >public by using one value for K for harddisks and another for >anything else to do with a computer. My .02 worth. > Memory is addressed using binary addresses, so if memory wasn't based on a power of 2, we would have memory that couldn't be addressed (for all intents and purposes not there), or addresses without memory (probably lots of problems here). OTOH, hard disk geometries allow lots of different combinations, _most_ of which are not a power of 2. So 16Mb of memory is an exact number when 1Mb = 1024 x 1024, while a 540Mb hard drive will be an approximation regardless of whether 1Mb = 1000 x 1000 or the other definition. Since there is no compelling reason to choose either standard for hard drives, while there is for memory, the manufacturers choose the method which makes their products look the best as far as hard drives are concerned. My memory (which has been failing me lately) was that IBM used to use the same method, or at least a much more conservative one, when they advertised memory and hard drive sizes. When they saw what that their competitors were doing, they changed their advertising also. When they got beat up over the change, they started including a standard paragraph in their long-winded announcement letters specifying how size calculations were made. $.02 more for the pot. Brooks From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 17 14:17:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03249; Fri, 17 May 96 14:17:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20127; Fri, 17 May 1996 14:14:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 17 May 1996 14:13:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20002; Fri, 17 May 1996 14:13:09 -0400 Received: from tuna.mit.edu (TUNA.MIT.EDU [18.250.0.56]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19996; Fri, 17 May 1996 14:13:07 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) id OAA11661; Fri, 17 May 1996 14:13:04 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 14:13:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: "Peter W. Borders" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard Disk sizes (was: New Member needs mass storage) In-Reply-To: <5DEEFB95E1C@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 17 May 1996, Peter W. Borders wrote: > > I don't find this a scam, it is well defined, and more convenient than > > blindly folowing the usual 1024 = 1000 method (whichis after all > > the non-standard definition!) > > Since when is the definition K = 2^10 (1024) non-standard IN RELATION > TO COMPUTERS? Do you measure your computer's memory in powers of 10? > All the harddisk manufacturers are doing is confusing the general > public by using one value for K for harddisks and another for > anything else to do with a computer. My .02 worth. I have a file that's 21375089 bytes. If I want to tell someone how big that file is, do I say "21.4 MB," or do I grab a calculator and divide it by 1024 twice to get the correct answer, 20.4 MB? People have been using MB=10^6 long before the hard disk manufacturers started. For addressing reasons, RAM is generally limited to high powers of 2 and simple combinations thereof. Hard disks are not. -- John H. Kim There are only two industries that call their jokim@mit.edu customers 'users,' and one of them is illegal. jokim@tuna.mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 17 14:23:18 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04040; Fri, 17 May 96 14:23:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20770; Fri, 17 May 1996 14:19:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 17 May 1996 14:17:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20621; Fri, 17 May 1996 14:17:48 -0400 Received: from ctpsun.ciw.edu (ctpsun.ciw.edu [192.70.249.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20613; Fri, 17 May 1996 14:17:43 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.38] (mac38.ciw.edu [192.70.249.38]) by ctpsun.ciw.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00586 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 14:17:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605171817.OAA00586@ctpsun.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 14:40:14 +0100 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: Hard Disk sizes (was: New Member needs mass storage) Please! We've been through this argument several times before. Can't we just stew in our moral indignation rather than rehashing it on the list? 2 more cents. ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 web page: http://granite.ciw.edu/~kress --------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 17 16:32:50 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11631; Fri, 17 May 96 16:32:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03263; Fri, 17 May 1996 16:26:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 17 May 1996 16:23:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02785; Fri, 17 May 1996 16:23:32 -0400 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp (firewall-user@ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp [202.32.89.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02772; Fri, 17 May 1996 16:23:19 -0400 Received: by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp; id FAA27133; Sat, 18 May 1996 05:23:01 +0900 Received: from unknown(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (g3.0.3) id xma027127; Sat, 18 May 96 05:22:53 +0900 Received: by ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id FAA24316; Sat, 18 May 1996 05:23:52 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id FAA09621; Sat, 18 May 1996 05:22:50 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id FAA04733; Sat, 18 May 1996 05:22:47 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 05:23:57 +0900 Message-Id: <199605172023.FAA00949@tubby.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <5DEEFB95E1C@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us> (TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us) Subject: Re: Hard Disk sizes (was: New Member needs mass storage) Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp Peter W Borders wrote: |> Since when is the definition K = 2^10 (1024) non-standard IN RELATION |> TO COMPUTERS? Since computers left the geekdome and entered the mainstream of the mainstream. I mean, look at the bozo law student that used to be on this list that had a baby because someone's mailer mistake filled his box with garbage. He couldn't comprehend that someone (other than himself) might make a mistake, so I don't think it's reasonable to think he might comprehend 1024 or 1024^2. Like F and C, I'm comfortable dealing with sizes either way. If I'm programming and thinking in hex, then of course it's natural for me to think in 1024 or 1024^1024 byte blocks. But if I'm looking at a filesize and thinking rough modem transfer time (i.e. "short", "ok", "mmm, maybe long"), then I just lop off three or six digits and there's my K and M. But then, I'm used to doing this with yen and dollars as well. While I've been in Japan, the yen has been anywhere from 0.78 cents to to 1.65 cents, but it's always 1.000000000 cents in rough calculations. Jeffrey From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 17 16:46:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12134; Fri, 17 May 96 16:46:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04278; Fri, 17 May 1996 16:38:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 17 May 1996 16:36:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04139; Fri, 17 May 1996 16:36:43 -0400 Received: from vbbuslnx1.tc.cc.va.us (root@vbbuslnx1.tc.cc.va.us [164.106.215.250]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04125; Fri, 17 May 1996 16:36:40 -0400 Received: from vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us (vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us [164.106.215.200]) by vbbuslnx1.tc.cc.va.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA00360 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 16:04:51 -0400 Received: from SERVER1/MAILQ by vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us (Mercury 1.21); 17 May 96 16:35:17 +1100 Received: from MAILQ by SERVER1 (Mercury 1.21); 17 May 96 16:34:49 +1100 From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 16:34:32 EST Subject: Re: Hard Disk sizes (was: New Member needs mass storage) Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <5E241E63640@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us> > I have a file that's 21375089 bytes. If I want to tell someone how > big that file is, do I say "21.4 MB," or do I grab a calculator and > divide it by 1024 twice to get the correct answer, 20.4 MB? People > have been using MB=10^6 long before the hard disk manufacturers started. > > For addressing reasons, RAM is generally limited to high powers of 2 > and simple combinations thereof. Hard disks are not. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You know the sector sizes on all hy hard drives are 512 bytes, which seems to me to be a power of 2. Cluster sizes are even multiples of that which means they are also in powers of 2. Internally DOS and most other intel architecture operating systems use numbers, in powers of 2, to handle all disk accesses. Computers do EVERYTHING based on powers of two, that is where the idea of one "K" equaling 1024 came from. Theoretically you could have a computer architecture based on powers of 10 but as far as I know none have ever been sold commercially. Basically it resolves to the fact that anyone who works with computers for any length of time learns that one "K" is 1024 (2^10). You don't think that various commands that tell you disk space or file space used in "K" are talking 1000's do you? Pete From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 17 16:53:54 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12446; Fri, 17 May 96 16:53:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05439; Fri, 17 May 1996 16:50:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 17 May 1996 16:49:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05217; Fri, 17 May 1996 16:49:43 -0400 Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05211; Fri, 17 May 1996 16:49:35 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA06184; Fri, 17 May 96 16:47:41 EDT Date: Fri, 17 May 96 16:47:41 EDT From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9605172047.AA06184@nile.gnat.com> To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard Disk sizes (was: New Member needs mass storage) "Since when is the definition K = 2^10 (1024) non-standard IN RELATION TO COMPUTERS? Do you measure your computer's memory in powers of 10? All the harddisk manufacturers are doing is confusing the general public by using one value for K for harddisks and another for anything else to do with a computer. My .02 worth." fine, but hard disk capacties are not measured that way, and when people talk about terrabytes of disk space, they are typically talking 10**12, and not 2**40. Sure it makes sense to mmeasure main memory in the power of 2 style, since memorie are typically powers of 2 or small multiles times powers of 2, but this is simly not true for disks. The industry standard for measuring disk capacity is the way that IBM uses. If you think it is a scam beause you had different expectations, then it is simply a matter of not knowing how disk capacities are (and have been ) measured. It would be truly confusing if some manufacturer ignorant of the industry standard started using an incompatible standard. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 17 17:20:23 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14518; Fri, 17 May 96 17:20:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07855; Fri, 17 May 1996 17:17:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 17 May 1996 17:12:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07384; Fri, 17 May 1996 17:12:37 -0400 Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07378; Fri, 17 May 1996 17:12:35 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA06505; Fri, 17 May 96 17:10:41 EDT Date: Fri, 17 May 96 17:10:41 EDT From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9605172110.AA06505@nile.gnat.com> To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard Disk sizes (was: New Member needs mass storage) Pete said "Basically it resolves to the fact that anyone who works with computers for any length of time learns that one "K" is 1024 (2^10). You don't think that various commands that tell you disk space or file space used in "K" are talking 1000's do you?" Anyone who works with computers for any length of time already knows that disks are always measured in 10**6, but it seems like a periodic occurrence that someone is unaware o this -- well -- just learn it! that's the way things are! [and as several people have noted, many people prefer it that way] From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 21 20:58:27 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22244; Tue, 21 May 96 20:58:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02323; Tue, 21 May 1996 20:57:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 21 May 1996 20:42:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01219; Tue, 21 May 1996 20:42:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01210; Tue, 21 May 1996 20:42:40 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 20:42:40 -0400 From: Keith Moore Message-Id: <199605220042.UAA01210@CS.UTK.EDU> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: ADMIN: list problem There was a problem with the new spam filter now used by the thinkpad list, which caused all mail to the list to bounce. I think it's fixed now, and I apologize for the inconvenience. Keith Moore (your friendly thinkpad list maintainer) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 22 07:16:32 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27711; Wed, 22 May 96 07:16:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23596; Wed, 22 May 1996 07:16:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 22 May 1996 07:12:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23279; Wed, 22 May 1996 07:12:29 -0400 Received: from hillfoot.cent.gla.ac.uk (pp@hillfoot.cent.gla.ac.uk [130.209.30.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23273; Wed, 22 May 1996 07:12:27 -0400 Received: from hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk by hillfoot.cent.gla.ac.uk with SMTP-GLA (PP); Wed, 22 May 1996 12:12:16 +0100 Received: from music.gla.ac.uk (actually host flute.music.arts.gla.ac.uk) by hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 22 May 1996 12:11:58 +0100 Received: from clave by music.gla.ac.uk (NX5.67d/NX3.0M) id AA28026; Wed, 22 May 96 12:11:47 +0100 From: Jonathan Marshall - EMU91 Message-Id: <9605221111.AA28026@music.gla.ac.uk> Received: by clave.music.gla.ac.uk (NX5.67d/NX3.0X) id AA05014; Wed, 22 May 96 12:11:45 +0100 Date: Wed, 22 May 96 12:11:45 +0100 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Pin-out for PS2 port? Hi there I wonder if anyone could tell me the pin out for the ps2 port on an IBM thinkpad 755C. I have an IBM keyboard that I wish to connect and I believe that an adaptor is required which I will attempt o build cheaper that IBM sell them for. Also is there another source for these adaptors other than IBM. Any help appreciated. Jonathan jmarshal@music.gla.ac.uk From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 22 10:10:46 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08013; Wed, 22 May 96 10:10:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07096; Wed, 22 May 1996 10:10:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 22 May 1996 10:07:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06692; Wed, 22 May 1996 10:06:57 -0400 Received: from anshar.shadow.net ([204.177.71.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06663; Wed, 22 May 1996 10:06:53 -0400 Received: from 6324-1b.kendall.mdcc.edu (6324-1b.kendall.mdcc.edu [147.70.152.121]) by anshar.shadow.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA06160; Wed, 22 May 1996 10:10:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960522140420.43cfafa6@mail.shadow.net> X-Sender: dwhite@mail.shadow.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 10:04:20 -0400 To: Jonathan Marshall - EMU91 , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Don Whiteside Subject: Re: Pin-out for PS2 port? At 12:11 PM 5/22/96 +0100, Jonathan Marshall - EMU91 wrote: >Hi there I wonder if anyone could tell me the pin out for the ps2 port on an >IBM thinkpad 755C. I have an IBM keyboard that I wish to connect and I believe >that an adaptor is required which I will attempt o build cheaper that IBM sell >them for. Also is there another source for these adaptors other than IBM. I have bought them (non-IBM adaptors) for $20 at CompUSA, so in my not-so-humble opinion, it's not worth the effort to build one by hand. Donald Alan Whiteside, Official Computer Dork for the 1996 Olympics "Penis ownership is not a prerequisite to technological competence" - Me. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 22 13:49:07 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23649; Wed, 22 May 96 13:49:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28129; Wed, 22 May 1996 13:45:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 22 May 1996 13:41:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27767; Wed, 22 May 1996 13:41:00 -0400 Received: from chelsea.ios.com (root@chelsea.ios.com [198.4.75.52]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27758; Wed, 22 May 1996 13:40:54 -0400 Received: (from ingerman@localhost) by chelsea.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA08889; Wed, 22 May 1996 13:35:47 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 13:35:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark M. Ingerman" X-Sender: ingerman@chelsea.ios.com To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Win 95 Install Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To all those who responded to my question reagrding Win95 Install, thank you. I just got back to my installation recently. The problem was as one wrote; Win 95 had a problem installing itself on my 755CX in the docking station when DOS was installed on the hard disk. Once I created a boot diskette, the installin went smoothly. Thanks again for all your help. Mark M. Ingerman Creative Software Solutions, Inc. ingerman@cs2.com (508) 394-5899 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 22 14:59:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27430; Wed, 22 May 96 14:59:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04671; Wed, 22 May 1996 14:56:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 22 May 1996 14:54:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04126; Wed, 22 May 1996 14:54:01 -0400 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04118; Wed, 22 May 1996 14:53:55 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA66366 for ; Wed, 22 May 1996 18:53:35 GMT Received: from slip129-37-246-106.fl.us.ibm.net(129.37.246.106) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaRAADmb; Wed May 22 18:53:30 1996 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960522185116.37c73d06@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net> X-Sender: u1inet.jonwz@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 14:51:16 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Jon Zuch Subject: Beef up a tp720c? Hi, I'm a new member with "vintage" TP720c's that I use for testing (I can swap out those front loaded hard drives real fast....:) I mostly test with win95 and win3.1.... These are great machines except they're speed (486 slc-50) is becoming a problem. The processor daughterboard is removable. I'm wondering what options exist for upping the speed. I've heard of upgrades to 75mhz, but the prices I've seen are steep for such a small gain. Anyone know of other options (a 486-100 or a pentium would be awesome). How about harddrive upgrades? I've read the discussions about harddrive "caddies". Can I take an old 120meg harddrive, remove the case and wrap in a large one cheap? Thanks in advance for any info. Regards, Jon From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 22 15:17:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28154; Wed, 22 May 96 15:17:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06209; Wed, 22 May 1996 15:12:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 22 May 1996 15:10:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06012; Wed, 22 May 1996 15:10:56 -0400 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06000; Wed, 22 May 1996 15:10:48 -0400 Received: from ppp-jesse (also-27.ppp.hooked.net [206.80.9.91]) by mom.hooked.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA11788 for ; Wed, 22 May 1996 12:11:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960522191103.00835e90@mailhost.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 12:11:03 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: jesse montrose Subject: Re: IBM Thinkpad "Kite" (here's the press release) Wow! IBM/NEW THINKPADS BC-IBM/NEW-THINKPADS ( BW)(IBM/NEW-THINKPADS)(IBM) NEW PORTFOLIO-STYLE= THINKPADS BREAK DESIGN, POWER & PRICE BARRIERS; world's only 12.1` screen on an=20 ultra-light notebook; ultra-slim 1.2` design; weighs just 4.1 lbs.; powerful= =20 pentium processors; long-life Lithium-ion batteries; affordable prices= Business=20 Editors & Computer Industry Writers SOMERS, N.Y.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 21,= =20 1996--Responding to sore-armed, luggage-strapped business travelers= everywhere,=20 IBM(a) today introduced an innovative new ThinkPad(a) notebook so slim and= light that it fits into nearly any briefcase. The new ThinkPad 560 packs a 12.1`= TFT=20 SVGA screen, full-sized keyboard and powerful Pentium processor in an= ultra-thin 1.2`, 4.1 pound package.(1) Before today's announcement, the lightest= notebook=20 sporting a 12.1` TFT panel weighed nearly 7 lbs. Ultra-Slim Notebook with=20 Amazing Power Starting at just $2,699,(2) the elegantly designed 560 series= with huge 12.1` active-matrix SVGA screens (equivalent to a 14` monitor with a= =20 viewable image size of 12.1`) or 11.3` dual-scan SVGA screens; are powered= by a=20 choice of Intel's(b) 133-MHz, 120-MHz, or 100-MHz Pentium(b) processors;(3)= =20 feature PCI bus for dazzling video and blazing graphics and weigh just 4.1= lbs.=20 The new ThinkPads also include 810 megabyte (MB) or 1.08 gigabyte (GB) hard= =20 drives(4), 8 MB of RAM (expandable to 40 MB) and extra long-lasting= lithium-ion=20 batteries. `The ThinkPad 560 will change the way people think of ThinkPads,= and=20 notebooks in general,` said Steve Ward, general manager for IBM PC Company's= =20 Mobile Computing group. `The new design is extremely innovative, but the=20 performance and price are equally impressive. For the first time, notebook= users don't have to compromise in any of these areas.` IBM Continues to Innovate= in=20 the Ultraportable Market `Once again, IBM has raised the bar in notebook=20 design,` said Bill Ablondi, analyst with Giga Information Group, a market=20 research firm based in Cambridge, Mass. `Our research shows that there is a= =20 substantial pent-up demand for slimline notebooks among experienced portable= =20 users. IBM has the pricing right too -- it is well-positioned to capture a= =20 sizable portion of the replacement market as well as entice business= travelers=20 to this form factor.` `For those mobile computing customers who require=20 performance in a thinner and lighter form factor, IBM's ThinkPad 560= delivers an outstanding combination of price and performance,` said Steve Nachtsheim,= vice=20 president and general manager of Intel Corporation, mobile and hand-held=20 products group. `Intel applauds IBM's engineering capabilities in continuing= to=20 pioneer mobile computing innovation.` For convenient notebook computing on= the=20 road, the ThinkPad 560 series features an integrated infrared link for= wireless=20 file transfer, printing and communications with other infrared enabled= desktop=20 PCs or other notebooks and electronic organizers; 16-bit audio with support= for=20 SoundBlaster(a) Pro applications; full-sized keyboard with integrated palm= rest; optional port replicator for easy access to desktop peripherals and IBM's= own=20 integrated TrackPoint(a) III pointing device. To maximize the ThinkPad 560's= =20 flexibility, IBM and Port, Inc., a leading manufacturer of portable= computing=20 accessories, have developed a number of custom-designed carrying cases.= Designs=20 range from leather portfolios that may be carried into meetings or slipped= =20 inside briefcases to larger air-cushioned cases. Convenient Service and= Support=20 IBM's new ThinkPads include one of the most convenient and advanced mobile= =20 service and support programs anywhere. IBM Online Housecall(a) (requires an= =20 optional modem) gives IBM HelpCenter(a) technicians the ability to remotely= =20 diagnose technical difficulties. Customers can count on IBM's 24-hour,=20 seven-day-a-week HelpWare(a) support,(5) which comes standard during a= one-year=20 limited warranty,(6) as does convenient EasyServ(a) courier repair service= =20 (available only in North America). Overnight and on-site service are= available=20 as optional service offerings. Configurations, Pricing and Availability The= new=20 ThinkPad 560 notebooks come standard with a detachable 1.44 MB floppy= diskette=20 drive and are preloaded with an exceptional selection of software including= =20 Netscape Navigator (b) and Windows(c) '95. Or, IS departments can choose a= =20 ready-to-configure option with blank hard disk. All ThinkPad 560 models will= =20 support OS/2(a) Warp, Version 3, and OS/2 Warp Connect with WIN-OS/2. The=20 ThinkPad 560 120-MHz and 100-MHz Pentium models will be available beginning= May=20 28, the 133-MHz Pentium model will be available in July, both through= authorized IBM resellers. -0- EDITORS NOTE: IBM news releases are available on the=20 Internet, via the IBM Home Page at http://www.ibm.com. The IBM Fax= Information=20 Service (800-IBM-4FAX) allows editors to receive facsimiles of IBM news= releases and spec sheets of IBM products. To receive a detailed spec sheet on the=20 ThinkPad 560 series, enter document `3934` at the voice menu. (a) Registered= =20 trademark of International Business Machines Corp. (b) Trademarks of service= =20 marks of other companies. (c) Registered trademark of Microsoft Corp. (1)= Actual weight may vary. (2) Estimated IBM authorized reseller prices. These= products=20 are available from IBM resellers and actual resale prices may vary. (3)= Internal processor speed. Application speed will be less. (4) MB million bytes, GB billion bytes. (5) Response times may vary. (6) Copies of IBM's statement of= =20 limited warranty area available by calling 800-772-2227. SELECTED SPECS:=20 Processor: Pentium at 133-MHz, 120-MHz or 100-MHz Bus: PCI Hard drives:= 810MB or 1.08GB Size: Slim 8.7`x 11.7`x 1.2`, 4.1 lbs. Audio: 16-bit with support= for=20 SoundBlaster(a) Pro applications Screen: 12.1` TFT SVGA, 11.3` DSTN SVGA=20 Communication: Infrared file transfer and printing Battery: Lithium-ion= Docking=20 support: Optional port replicator available Standard ports: Serial/=20 parallel/SVGA/KB-MSE/FDD/Audio Floppy drive: Detachable 1.44 MB diskette= drive=20 is standard --30--rg/ny.. CONTACT: Andrea Bell Brodeur & Partners for IBM=20 914-697-9711 Andrea--Bell Brodeur.com KEYWORD: NEW YORK INDUSTRY KEYWORD:=20 COMPUTERS/ELECTRONICS COMED PRODUCT REPEATS: New York 212-752-9600 or=20 800-221-2462; Boston 617-236-4266 or 800-225-2030; SF 415-986-4422 or=20 800-227-0845; LA 310-820-9473 BW URL: http://www.businesswire.com AP-NY-05-21-96 0907EDT At 04:23 PM 4/26/96 +0300, Teemu M=F6tt=F6nen wrote: >here's some preliminary information from an IBM employee about >the upcoming followup to the 701 "Butterfly", codename "Kite": > >- 120 MHz Pentium CPU >- 8 MB RAM >- 800 MB HD >- 11.3" ?VGA display DSTN or 12.1" SVGA TFT display >- 1.2 kg weight >- normal ThinkPad keyboard: keycap width 19mm, key travel 3mm >- lithium ion battery > >The IBM person gave no hint about the pricing or actual availability dates. >He said that it'll probably be announced on May 21st here in Finland= (that's >when the 365X/XD-line will be announced here as well). > >Cheers, >Teemu M=F6tt=F6nen. > > > _____________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.spine.com After seven years, I was sent home to my family. =20 Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 22 15:20:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28302; Wed, 22 May 96 15:20:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06811; Wed, 22 May 1996 15:16:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 22 May 1996 15:15:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06635; Wed, 22 May 1996 15:15:30 -0400 Received: from news1.radix.net (news1.radix.net [204.157.34.41]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06619; Wed, 22 May 1996 15:15:27 -0400 Received: from dialin19.annex2.radix.net (dialin19.annex2.radix.net [204.157.135.38]) by news1.radix.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA25966 for ; Wed, 22 May 1996 15:16:09 -0400 Message-Id: <199605221916.PAA25966@news1.radix.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "kevin king" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 15:15:53 -0500 Subject: laptop morality Reply-To: xanadu@radix.net Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.20) Just an amusing note (no spoilers): In Mission:Impossible, the good guys all use Mac Powerbooks. The bad guys have a Thinkpad (with the logo thinly veiled by an oval black patch). Oooooh, that eeevil Vanessa Redgrave! kevin From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 22 15:46:28 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29264; Wed, 22 May 96 15:46:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09158; Wed, 22 May 1996 15:44:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 22 May 1996 15:42:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08934; Wed, 22 May 1996 15:42:35 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08927; Wed, 22 May 1996 15:42:33 -0400 Received: from lee.market1.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uMJlG-001B1AC; Wed, 22 May 96 13:39 MDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 May 96 13:39 MDT X-Sender: lee@rmii.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: lee@rmii.com (Lee Stewart) Subject: PCMCIA Powered CDROM Hi guys... I'm searching for a friend this time. He doesn't actaully have a ThinkPad, but I thought I'd ask for advice here anyhow since some of you might know... He does lots of international travel and is looking for a CDROM drive. Ones like the Panasonic (that I have) require a separate power connection which would mean in addition to the drive you have to take the CD's power unit (plugin transformer), plus a second power transformer/adapter for the foreign power (one for the laptop, one for the drive). What he really needs is a CDROM drive that's powered from the PCMCIA slot. I've seen them - somewhere, but can't remember where or who the manufacturer was. Does anyone have any suggestions?? Thanks in advance... Lee Stewart From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 22 16:05:11 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00037; Wed, 22 May 96 16:05:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11320; Wed, 22 May 1996 16:03:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 22 May 1996 16:01:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11134; Wed, 22 May 1996 16:01:11 -0400 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp (firewall-user@ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp [202.32.89.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11128; Wed, 22 May 1996 16:01:07 -0400 Received: by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp; id FAA19339; Thu, 23 May 1996 05:01:01 +0900 Received: from unknown(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (g3.0.3) id xma019337; Thu, 23 May 96 05:00:56 +0900 Received: by ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id FAA03100; Thu, 23 May 1996 05:01:56 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id FAA05132; Thu, 23 May 1996 05:00:55 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id FAA02750; Thu, 23 May 1996 05:00:52 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 05:02:05 +0900 Message-Id: <199605222002.FAA00348@tubby.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: thinkpad mailing list Subject: 755cx keeps jumping out of suspend Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp Hiho. My 755cx suddenly decided that it doesn't like the suspend state anymore. When I give it the ole' Alt-F4, it suspends. After about two seconds it decides to unsuspend itself. I can't think of anything I did between when it worked and when it didn't. I thought maybe a key was stuck or something, but ran the machine diagnostics (which take a *long* time with 40 meg) and no problems reported. Any ideas? Thanks, Jeffrey ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey Friedl Omron Corp, Nagaokakyo, Kyoto 617 Japan See my Jap<->Eng dictionary at http://www.wg.omron.co.jp/cgi-bin/j-e or at mirrors at [enterprise.ic.gc.ca] and [www.itc.omron.com] From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 22 16:19:08 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00389; Wed, 22 May 96 16:19:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12528; Wed, 22 May 1996 16:15:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 22 May 1996 16:14:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12304; Wed, 22 May 1996 16:14:43 -0400 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp (firewall-user@ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp [202.32.89.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12292; Wed, 22 May 1996 16:14:40 -0400 Received: by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp; id FAA19425; Thu, 23 May 1996 05:14:31 +0900 Received: from unknown(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (g3.0.3) id xma019423; Thu, 23 May 96 05:14:11 +0900 Received: by ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id FAA03155; Thu, 23 May 1996 05:15:10 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id FAA05146; Thu, 23 May 1996 05:14:09 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id FAA02859; Thu, 23 May 1996 05:13:34 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 05:14:45 +0900 Message-Id: <199605222014.FAA00359@tubby.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960522191103.00835e90@mailhost.hooked.net> (message from jesse montrose on Wed, 22 May 1996 12:11:03 -0700) Subject: Re: IBM Thinkpad "Kite" (here's the press release) Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp Re: new 560 Am I blind, or does it look like no PCMCIA support???? Jeffrey From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 22 16:34:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02377; Wed, 22 May 96 16:34:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14516; Wed, 22 May 1996 16:32:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 22 May 1996 16:31:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14377; Wed, 22 May 1996 16:31:19 -0400 Received: from ctrvx1.Vanderbilt.Edu (ctrvx1.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.1.21]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14371; Wed, 22 May 1996 16:31:17 -0400 Received: from dial016.Vanderbilt.Edu by ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu (PMDF V5.0-5 #11488) id <01I50F053VG08X16KT@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 22 May 1996 15:30:31 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 15:30:31 -0500 (CDT) Date-Warning: Date header was inserted by ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu From: gramlijf@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu (James Gramling) Subject: Thinkpad 560 X-Sender: gramlijf@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01I50F05R6K28X16KT@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Is the floppy unit on the 560 of the kind seen on the digital ultra highnote? Also, is there a similar modular CD-ROM unit that attaches to the unit a la the Digital? Thanks, James Gramling From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 22 16:43:29 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02837; Wed, 22 May 96 16:43:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15641; Wed, 22 May 1996 16:41:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 22 May 1996 16:39:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15298; Wed, 22 May 1996 16:39:54 -0400 Received: from alder.nesc.epa.gov (alder.nesc.epa.gov [204.46.18.15]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15284; Wed, 22 May 1996 16:39:45 -0400 Received: from baobab.nesc.epa.gov by alder.nesc.epa.gov (5.4R3.10T/140.2) id AA03909; Wed, 22 May 1996 16:39:41 -0400 Received: by baobab.nesc.epa.gov (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA27079; Wed, 22 May 1996 16:39:26 -0400 From: "Vince Wayland" Message-Id: <9605221639.ZM27077@baobab.nesc.epa.gov> Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 16:39:24 -0400 In-Reply-To: Jeffrey Friedl "Re: IBM Thinkpad "Kite" (here's the press release)" (May 23, 5:14am) References: <199605222014.FAA00359@tubby.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IBM Thinkpad "Kite" (here's the press release) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Buried in another piece on IBM's web page: PC Card support Slots for two Type II or one Type III PC Cards IBM PC Card Director utility Regards, Vince -- Vince Wayland Onsite at The National Environmental Supercomputer Center (517)894-7671 for Cray Research, Inc. veg@nesc.epa.gov NESC, 135 Washington Ave., Bay City, MI 48708 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 22 17:01:24 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03609; Wed, 22 May 96 17:01:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17882; Wed, 22 May 1996 16:58:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 22 May 1996 16:56:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17553; Wed, 22 May 1996 16:56:37 -0400 Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17546; Wed, 22 May 1996 16:56:34 -0400 Received: from ppp-jesse (also-27.ppp.hooked.net [206.80.9.91]) by mom.hooked.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA00599; Wed, 22 May 1996 13:57:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960522205651.007496f8@mailhost.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 13:56:51 -0700 To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp From: jesse montrose Subject: Re: IBM Thinkpad "Kite" (here's the press release) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu It's got a standard type III/2 type II, not sure about your vision. At 05:14 AM 5/23/96 +0900, Jeffrey Friedl wrote: > >Re: new 560 >Am I blind, or does it look like no PCMCIA support???? > > Jeffrey > > _____________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.spine.com After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 22 17:16:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04243; Wed, 22 May 96 17:16:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19595; Wed, 22 May 1996 17:14:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 22 May 1996 17:12:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19426; Wed, 22 May 1996 17:12:09 -0400 Received: from interramp.com (pop3.interramp.com [38.8.32.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19420; Wed, 22 May 1996 17:12:07 -0400 Received: from us027545.interramp.com by interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-pop-local) id RAA23687; Wed, 22 May 1996 17:11:55 -0400 Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 17:11:55 -0400 Message-Id: <199605222111.RAA23687@interramp.com> X-Sender: us027545@pop3.interramp.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Mark Bell Subject: Re: laptop morality At 03:15 PM 5/22/96 -0500, you wrote: >Just an amusing note (no spoilers): >In Mission:Impossible, the good guys all use Mac Powerbooks. The bad >guys have a Thinkpad (with the logo thinly veiled by an oval black >patch). Oooooh, that eeevil Vanessa Redgrave! I suspect Apple had a hand in helping them. :) Apple also has a commercial out with various snippets from the movie highlighting the usage of their Powerbooks. C:\Mark_Bell\800_College_Drive_#104\Vineland_NJ\08360\6093274029 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 22 18:28:49 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08146; Wed, 22 May 96 18:28:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25753; Wed, 22 May 1996 18:21:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 22 May 1996 18:19:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25411; Wed, 22 May 1996 18:19:32 -0400 Received: from portal.visa.com (portal.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25397; Wed, 22 May 1996 18:19:29 -0400 Received: by portal.visa.com id AA07579 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu); Wed, 22 May 1996 22:19:15 GMT Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 22 May 1996 22:19:15 GMT Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 18:17:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Rob Huber To: Lee Stewart Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: PCMCIA Powered CDROM In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII IBM sells one but I don't remember the brand but it's one not with IBM's logo. On Wed, 22 May 1996, Lee Stewart wrote: > Hi guys... I'm searching for a friend this time. He doesn't actaully > have a ThinkPad, but I thought I'd ask for advice here anyhow since > some of you might know... He does lots of international travel and > is looking for a CDROM drive. Ones like the Panasonic (that I have) > require a separate power connection which would mean in addition to > the drive you have to take the CD's power unit (plugin transformer), > plus a second power transformer/adapter for the foreign power (one > for the laptop, one for the drive). > > What he really needs is a CDROM drive that's powered from the PCMCIA > slot. I've seen them - somewhere, but can't remember where or who the > manufacturer was. Does anyone have any suggestions?? > > Thanks in advance... > Lee Stewart > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 22 20:08:41 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15619; Wed, 22 May 96 20:08:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02240; Wed, 22 May 1996 20:06:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 22 May 1996 20:04:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01902; Wed, 22 May 1996 20:04:20 -0400 Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01889; Wed, 22 May 1996 20:04:16 -0400 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA00662; Wed, 22 May 1996 19:04:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Wed, 22 May 96 19:04 CDT Date: Wed, 22 May 96 19:04 CDT X-Sender: runngdog@popmail.mcs.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: lee@rmii.com (Lee Stewart) From: runngdog@mcs.com (Dane Tyson) Subject: Re: PCMCIA Powered CDROM Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >Hi guys... I'm searching for a friend this time. He doesn't actaully >have a ThinkPad, but I thought I'd ask for advice here anyhow since >some of you might know... He does lots of international travel and >is looking for a CDROM drive. Ones like the Panasonic (that I have) >require a separate power connection which would mean in addition to >the drive you have to take the CD's power unit (plugin transformer), >plus a second power transformer/adapter for the foreign power (one >for the laptop, one for the drive). > >What he really needs is a CDROM drive that's powered from the PCMCIA >slot. I've seen them - somewhere, but can't remember where or who the >manufacturer was. Does anyone have any suggestions?? > >Thanks in advance... >Lee Stewart > PC Week article announcing the 560 mentions a unit due out from IBM next month. According to the article, "it uses standard off-the-shelf batteries [and] will not drain precious power off the main battery." From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 22 20:10:12 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15630; Wed, 22 May 96 20:10:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02416; Wed, 22 May 1996 20:08:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 22 May 1996 20:07:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02281; Wed, 22 May 1996 20:07:37 -0400 Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02270; Wed, 22 May 1996 20:07:33 -0400 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA00820 for ; Wed, 22 May 1996 19:07:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Wed, 22 May 96 18:58 CDT Date: Wed, 22 May 96 18:58 CDT X-Sender: runngdog@popmail.mcs.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: runngdog@mcs.com (Dane Tyson) Subject: Re: Thinkpad 560 >Is the floppy unit on the 560 of the kind seen on the digital ultra >highnote? Also, is there a similar modular CD-ROM unit that attaches to the >unit a la the Digital? Thanks, > >James Gramling >Re: new 560 >Am I blind, or does it look like no PCMCIA support???? > Jeffrey Quoting from Lisa DeCarlo's artlicle on the 560 release in PC Week: "Next month, IBM will release a 4-speed CD-ROM modeule that plugs into the 560's PC Card slot." From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 22 20:33:13 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16946; Wed, 22 May 96 20:33:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04798; Wed, 22 May 1996 20:32:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 22 May 1996 20:31:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04636; Wed, 22 May 1996 20:31:04 -0400 Received: from dragon.cnm.columbia.edu (dragon.cnm.columbia.edu [128.59.192.114]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04629; Wed, 22 May 1996 20:31:01 -0400 Received: from tintin.jrn.columbia.edu (dialup246.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.36.246]) by dragon.cnm.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9/sed) with SMTP id UAA03553; Wed, 22 May 1996 20:30:55 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960523003045.009b566c@jrn.columbia.edu> X-Sender: yann@jrn.columbia.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 20:30:45 -0400 To: runngdog@mcs.com (Dane Tyson), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Yann Nicolas Subject: Re: Thinkpad 560 >Quoting from Lisa DeCarlo's artlicle on the 560 release in PC Week: "Next >month, IBM will release a 4-speed CD-ROM modeule that plugs into the 560's >PC Card slot." Would the "560's PC Card slot" be the equivalent of a "701's PC Card slot"? ;) Thanks... -- Yann Nicolas Systems Coordinator - Graduate School of Journalism, Columbia University yann@jrn.columbia.edu - http://www.jrn.columbia.edu/~yann/soccer.html From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 22 21:59:28 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20503; Wed, 22 May 96 21:59:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA11037; Wed, 22 May 1996 21:56:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 22 May 1996 21:50:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10389; Wed, 22 May 1996 21:50:22 -0400 Received: from anshar.shadow.net (anshar.shadow.net [204.177.71.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10377; Wed, 22 May 1996 21:50:17 -0400 Received: from ppp.shadow.net (ppp-mia-143.shadow.net [204.177.71.143]) by anshar.shadow.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA11713; Wed, 22 May 1996 21:54:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960523014809.508f3cf4@mail.shadow.net> X-Sender: dwhite@mail.shadow.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 21:48:09 -0400 To: Jon Zuch , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Don Whiteside Subject: Re: Beef up a tp720c? At 02:51 PM 5/22/96 -0400, Jon Zuch wrote: >How about harddrive upgrades? I've read the discussions about harddrive >"caddies". Can I take an old 120meg harddrive, remove the case and wrap in a >large one cheap? Sadly, no. The 720 used ESDI drives, not IDE. Good luck finding an affordable decent sized 2.5" ESDI drive..... Donald Alan Whiteside, Official Computer Dork for the 1996 Olympics "Penis ownership is not a prerequisite to technological competence" - Me. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 22 22:13:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21016; Wed, 22 May 96 22:13:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12636; Wed, 22 May 1996 22:12:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 22 May 1996 22:10:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12310; Wed, 22 May 1996 22:10:40 -0400 Received: from dragon.cnm.columbia.edu (dragon.cnm.columbia.edu [128.59.192.114]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12296; Wed, 22 May 1996 22:10:35 -0400 Received: from tintin.jrn.columbia.edu (dialup246.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.36.246]) by dragon.cnm.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9/sed) with SMTP id WAA04098 for ; Wed, 22 May 1996 22:10:28 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960523021018.00987c74@jrn.columbia.edu> X-Sender: yann@jrn.columbia.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 22:10:18 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Yann Nicolas Subject: TP760CD discountinued? I ordered a TP760CD (P120, 16 megs RAM, etc...) from Insight a few weeks ago... There was about 1 month of back-order at the time (which I didn't mind). Yesterday, my sales rep calls me back and tells me that the 760CD has been discountinued?!? What gives? I thought it (just?) came out? what will replace it? I basically have $7,500 to spend on a laptop (not my personal money or laptop:()... I thought the 760CD was a good choice. Now I'm confused... Thanks. -- Yann Nicolas Systems Coordinator - Graduate School of Journalism, Columbia University yann@jrn.columbia.edu - http://www.jrn.columbia.edu/~yann/soccer.html From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 23 00:42:52 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27264; Thu, 23 May 96 00:42:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26090; Thu, 23 May 1996 00:41:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 23 May 1996 00:38:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25759; Thu, 23 May 1996 00:38:10 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25753; Thu, 23 May 1996 00:38:07 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uMS7f-001B14C; Wed, 22 May 96 22:35 MDT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960523043808.008d0a3c@[166.93.8.14]> X-Sender: ssh@[166.93.8.14] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 22:38:08 -0600 To: Yann Nicolas , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Steve Hultquist Subject: Re: TP760CD discountinued? At 10:10 PM 5/22/96 -0400, Yann Nicolas wrote: >I ordered a TP760CD (P120, 16 megs RAM, etc...) from Insight a few weeks >ago... There was about 1 month of back-order at the time (which I didn't >mind). Yesterday, my sales rep calls me back and tells me that the 760CD has >been discountinued?!? What gives? I thought it (just?) came out? what will >replace it? I basically have $7,500 to spend on a laptop (not my personal >money or laptop:()... I thought the 760CD was a good choice. Now I'm confused... Take a look at the Web pages; there are a number of choices. The new top-of-the-line is a 760ED. That's the one I'm waiting for (it's on order)! Cheers, ssh -- Steve Hultquist Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Web, Internet, LANs, WANs, Routing, Switching, Unix, PCs, NT, 95, OS/2 Specialists in temporary and demonstration environments http://www.wwsi.com/ 303.581.0800 Boulder, Colorado, USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 23 07:11:17 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11574; Thu, 23 May 96 07:11:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA28559; Thu, 23 May 1996 07:10:23 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 23 May 1996 07:06:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA28141; Thu, 23 May 1996 07:06:15 -0400 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (buffingt@chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA28135; Thu, 23 May 1996 07:06:12 -0400 Received: (from buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) id EAA08748; Thu, 23 May 1996 04:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605231106.EAA08748@chaph.usc.edu> From: "Roger J. Buffington" To: "TP750list" , "jfriedl@omron.co.jp" Date: Thu, 23 May 96 04:06:04 -0700 Reply-To: "Roger J. Buffington" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's Registered PMMail 1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Hard Disk sizes (was: New Member needs mass storage) On Sat, 18 May 1996 05:23:57 +0900, Jeffrey Friedl wrote: > >Peter W Borders wrote: >|> Since when is the definition K = 2^10 (1024) non-standard IN RELATION >|> TO COMPUTERS? > >Since computers left the geekdome and entered the mainstream of the >mainstream. > >I mean, look at the bozo law student that used to be on this list that had >a baby because someone's mailer mistake filled his box with garbage. He >couldn't comprehend that someone (other than himself) might make a mistake, >so I don't think it's reasonable to think he might comprehend 1024 or >1024^2. > >Like F and C, I'm comfortable dealing with sizes either way. Big deal. This trite argument has been going on over and over again, and messages from people like Jeff Friedl continuosly fill ALL our boxes with garbage. It is like a vampire which, once killed, nevertheless repeatedly rises from the dead. I mean, get a life, Jeff. We know how superior you are. You don't need to use the list to tell us, or to work out your psychological problems. Roger J. Buffington AB6WR USC Law, Class of '97 Go Trojans! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from | | them (Native Americans). There were great numbers of people who | | needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it | | for themsleves." - John Wayne (actor) | From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 23 09:33:26 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18038; Thu, 23 May 96 09:33:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12022; Thu, 23 May 1996 09:31:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 23 May 1996 09:27:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10907; Thu, 23 May 1996 09:27:21 -0400 Received: from shrsys.hslc.org (SHRSYS.HSLC.ORG [192.100.94.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10889; Thu, 23 May 1996 09:27:17 -0400 Received: from SHRSYS.HSLC.ORG by SHRSYS.HSLC.ORG (PMDF V5.0-6 #15479) id <01I51GIPOY3E8X1R9M@SHRSYS.HSLC.ORG> for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 23 May 1996 09:25:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 09:25:46 -0500 (EST) From: "Dennis J. Gormley" Subject: Re: PCMCIA Powered CDROM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: GORMLEY@SHRSYS.HSLC.ORG Message-Id: <01I51GIPOZ1O8X1R9M@SHRSYS.HSLC.ORG> X-Vms-To: IN%"thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" X-Vms-Cc: GORMLEY Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > From: IN%"runngdog@mcs.com" 22-MAY-1996 20:06:12.55 > Subj: RE: PCMCIA Powered CDROM [snip] > >What he really needs is a CDROM drive that's powered from the PCMCIA > >slot. I've seen them - somewhere, but can't remember where or who the > >manufacturer was. Does anyone have any suggestions?? > > > >Thanks in advance... > >Lee Stewart > > > > PC Week article announcing the 560 mentions a unit due out from IBM next > month. According to the article, "it uses standard off-the-shelf batteries > [and] will not drain precious power off the main battery." Does that mean one'll be available in December? :) \ Dennis J. Gormley Tel: (215) 222-1532 \\ Operations Manager Fax: (215) 222-0416 \\\\ Health Sciences Libraries Consortium Int: gormley@hslc.org \\\\\\ 3600 Market Street, Suite 550 H S L C Philadelphia, PA 19104-2646 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 23 09:35:29 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18408; Thu, 23 May 96 09:35:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA12730; Thu, 23 May 1996 09:34:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 23 May 1996 09:31:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11904; Thu, 23 May 1996 09:31:04 -0400 Received: from ankur.bellcore.com (ankur.bellcore.com [192.4.7.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11889; Thu, 23 May 1996 09:31:00 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ankur.bellcore.com (8.6.9/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA03882; Thu, 23 May 1996 09:30:43 -0400 Message-Id: <199605231330.JAA03882@ankur.bellcore.com> X-Authentication-Warning: ankur.bellcore.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: hira@bellcore.com Subject: need XF86Config for Thinkpad 760CD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 09:30:42 -0400 From: Hiralal Agrawal I have installed Linux on the second hard drive on my 760CD. I am having trouble, however, in getting X to run on the machine. Does any one have a working XF86Config file for the 760CD that I could use. I am using Slackware 3.0 Linux that comes with XFree86 3.1.2. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -- Hira Agrawal. hira@bellcore.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 23 10:07:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19649; Thu, 23 May 96 10:07:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15890; Thu, 23 May 1996 10:05:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 23 May 1996 10:03:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15773; Thu, 23 May 1996 10:03:46 -0400 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15764; Thu, 23 May 1996 10:03:44 -0400 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id KAA14134; Thu, 23 May 1996 10:02:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 10:02:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" Reply-To: "John H. Kim" To: Hiralal Agrawal Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, hira@bellcore.com Subject: Re: need XF86Config for Thinkpad 760CD In-Reply-To: <199605231330.JAA03882@ankur.bellcore.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 23 May 1996, Hiralal Agrawal wrote: > I have installed Linux on the second hard drive on my 760CD. I am having > trouble, however, in getting X to run on the machine. Does any one have a > working XF86Config file for the 760CD that I could use. > > I am using Slackware 3.0 Linux that comes with XFree86 3.1.2. The 760 uses a new Trident chipset. You need the latest XFree86 beta. Try http://www.castle.net/X-notebook/index_linux.html. -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 24 01:37:26 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27559; Fri, 24 May 96 01:37:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16216; Fri, 24 May 1996 01:35:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 24 May 1996 01:32:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15906; Fri, 24 May 1996 01:32:44 -0400 Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu (martigny.ai.mit.edu [18.43.0.152]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15900; Fri, 24 May 1996 01:32:42 -0400 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27532; Fri, 24 May 96 01:32:39 -0400 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu id (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.33); Fri, 24 May 96 01:32 EDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 May 96 01:32 EDT From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: [hardy@lynx.ps.uci.edu: XF86-3.1.2E released and tested!] X-Mailer: Edwin [version 3.91, MIT Scheme Release 7.5a] Just after sending my previous message, this arrived in my mailbox. What wonderful timing! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy)" Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 22:15:49 PDT Subject: XF86-3.1.2E released and tested! Hi ThinkPad users, I just downloaded the 3.1.2E release from ftp.xfree86.org and installed the update, and the XF86_SVGA server. Except for some fiddling with symbolic links (libX11.so.6, libXt.so.6 have to be removed first), the installation took about 5 minutes, and when I restarted X everything worked with the old XF86Config file. I have not tried the 16bpp mode yet. if any one of you is successful, please let us all know. In a few days I will remove the 3.1.2Dd server from lynx.ps.uci.edu. If I come up with a better XF86Config file, I will let you know. Regards, -- Hardy -------****------- Meinhard E. Mayer (Research Professor of Physics and Mathematics) Department of Physics, University of California, Irvine, CA 92717-4575 USA Phone: +1-(714) 824 5543; FAX: (+1)(714) 824-2174; e-mail: MMAYER@UCI.EDU [at MIT: hardy@martigny.ai.mit.edu (617) 253 6833] URL: http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~hardy/hardy.html http://www.ps.uci.edu/physics/mayer.html From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 24 01:37:38 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27564; Fri, 24 May 96 01:37:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16214; Fri, 24 May 1996 01:35:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 24 May 1996 01:26:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15612; Fri, 24 May 1996 01:26:00 -0400 Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu (martigny.ai.mit.edu [18.43.0.152]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA15603; Fri, 24 May 1996 01:25:57 -0400 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27500; Fri, 24 May 96 01:25:51 -0400 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu id (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.33); Fri, 24 May 96 01:25 EDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 May 96 01:25 EDT From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: jokim@beluga.MIT.EDU Cc: hira@flash.bellcore.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, hira@bellcore.com In-Reply-To: (jokim@beluga.MIT.EDU) Subject: need XF86Config for Thinkpad 760CD X-Mailer: Edwin [version 3.91, MIT Scheme Release 7.5a] Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 10:02:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" On Thu, 23 May 1996, Hiralal Agrawal wrote: > I have installed Linux on the second hard drive on my 760CD. I am having > trouble, however, in getting X to run on the machine. Does any one have a > working XF86Config file for the 760CD that I could use. > > I am using Slackware 3.0 Linux that comes with XFree86 3.1.2. The 760 uses a new Trident chipset. You need the latest XFree86 beta. Try http://www.castle.net/X-notebook/index_linux.html. Actually (unless 3.1.2E has been released), the 3.1.2D beta doesn't work either. There's a patched server available from "ftp://lynx.ps.uci.edu/dist/". From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 24 02:12:29 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28547; Fri, 24 May 96 02:12:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18209; Fri, 24 May 1996 02:11:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 24 May 1996 02:10:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18110; Fri, 24 May 1996 02:10:47 -0400 Received: from bbnplanet.com (poblano.near.net [198.114.157.116]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA18097; Fri, 24 May 1996 02:10:42 -0400 Subject: Re: need XF86Config for Thinkpad 760CD To: Chris Hanson Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 02:10:00 -0400 (EDT) From: John Hawkinson Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, jokim@beluga.mit.edu, hira@bellcore.com In-Reply-To: from "Chris Hanson" at May 24, 96 01:25:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9605240210.aa29293@poblano.bbnplanet.com> > The 760 uses a new Trident chipset. You need the latest XFree86 beta. > Try http://www.castle.net/X-notebook/index_linux.html. > > Actually (unless 3.1.2E has been released), the 3.1.2D beta doesn't > work either. There's a patched server available from > "ftp://lynx.ps.uci.edu/dist/". 3.1.3E has in fact been released. The SVGA server does not work right with the Trident tgui9320lcd chipset in my 760E under NetBSD -- it has many vertical black bars (every 3mm or so) and the mouse leaves traces when it moves. Reported to report@XFree86.org folks on Monday... --jhawk From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 24 12:07:37 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09680; Fri, 24 May 96 12:07:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06356; Fri, 24 May 1996 12:05:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 24 May 1996 12:00:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05708; Fri, 24 May 1996 12:00:47 -0400 Received: from hillfoot.cent.gla.ac.uk (pp@hillfoot.cent.gla.ac.uk [130.209.30.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05697; Fri, 24 May 1996 12:00:43 -0400 Received: from hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk by hillfoot.cent.gla.ac.uk with SMTP-GLA (PP); Fri, 24 May 1996 17:00:01 +0100 Received: from music.gla.ac.uk (actually host flute.music.arts.gla.ac.uk) by hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 24 May 1996 16:59:39 +0100 Received: from markov by music.gla.ac.uk (NX5.67d/NX3.0M) id AA16627; Fri, 24 May 96 16:54:49 +0100 From: Jonathan Marshall - EMU91 Message-Id: <9605241554.AA16627@music.gla.ac.uk> Received: by markov.music.gla.ac.uk (NX5.67e/NX3.0X) id AA09668; Fri, 24 May 96 16:54:47 +0100 Date: Fri, 24 May 96 16:54:47 +0100 Original-Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.100) Pp-Warning: Illegal Received field on preceding line Original-Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.100) Pp-Warning: Illegal Received field on preceding line To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Pin-out for PS2 port? >I have bought them (non-IBM adaptors) for $20 at CompUSA, so in my >not-so-humble opinion, it's not worth the effort to build one by hand. Thanks for your advice, however the cheapest I can find the adaptor in britian is almost 30 ukp (from IBM themselves). Unless anyone can send me a cheaper supplier in the uk, my question still remains: Does anyone have the pin out connections for the combined keyboard/mouse ps2 port of a Thinkpad? Thanks again Jonathan jmarshal@music.gla.ac.uk From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 24 13:00:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12904; Fri, 24 May 96 13:00:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11536; Fri, 24 May 1996 12:58:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 24 May 1996 12:57:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11407; Fri, 24 May 1996 12:57:39 -0400 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au ([150.203.2.6]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11400; Fri, 24 May 1996 12:57:35 -0400 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id CAA27236 for ; Sat, 25 May 1996 02:57:32 +1000 From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA24483; Sat, 25 May 1996 02:57:30 +1000 Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 02:57:29 +1000 (EST) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: scsi cables/jaz drive. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i just got an imomega jaz drive (external, portable) to use with my 755ce. problem is i no longer have the scsi cable from my new media scsi pcmcia card to a scsi device (when a cd-rom drive was stolen the cable went with it). any idea where one can get such a cable, preferrably in or near the washington, d.c. area? regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 24 14:02:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15633; Fri, 24 May 96 14:02:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16825; Fri, 24 May 1996 13:57:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 24 May 1996 13:55:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16500; Fri, 24 May 1996 13:54:59 -0400 Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16493; Fri, 24 May 1996 13:54:55 -0400 Received: from draconis ([203.120.81.190]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA14154 for ; Sat, 25 May 1996 01:54:44 +0800 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960524174404.006d9cf0@pacific.net.sg> X-Sender: skat@pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 01:44:04 +0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: skat@pacific.net.sg (Sam King ) Subject: win 95 on tp701c. apm problem? hello all! having a weird problem with dear old win95 here! it seems whenever my AC power is connected, and i disconnect it, the machine hangs. has anyone had anything like this, or any solutions to a problem like this? oh, and i don't need to hear those people who want to tell me 'delete win 95' :) sam -Email skat@pacific.net.sg-------------------- -^^^Introducing.. The Invisible Signature!^^^- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 24 16:16:09 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19481; Fri, 24 May 96 16:16:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01333; Fri, 24 May 1996 16:13:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 24 May 1996 16:09:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00725; Fri, 24 May 1996 16:09:38 -0400 Received: from ankur.bellcore.com (ankur.bellcore.com [192.4.7.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00715; Fri, 24 May 1996 16:09:35 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ankur.bellcore.com (8.6.9/8.6.10) with SMTP id QAA01995; Fri, 24 May 1996 16:09:18 -0400 Message-Id: <199605242009.QAA01995@ankur.bellcore.com> X-Authentication-Warning: ankur.bellcore.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: hira@bellcore.com Subject: /dev/mouse under Linux on Thinkpad 760CD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 16:09:16 -0400 From: Hiralal Agrawal Which device file should the link "/dev/mouse" point to on a Thinkpad 760CD? I had Slackware 3.0 Linux configure my mouse as a PS/2 mouse. This caused /dev/mouse to become a symbolic link to /dev/psaux. But when I start X it complains that it can not open the mouse device. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -- Hira Agrawal. hira@bellcore.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 24 16:19:46 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19526; Fri, 24 May 96 16:19:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01688; Fri, 24 May 1996 16:16:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 24 May 1996 16:15:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01462; Fri, 24 May 1996 16:15:17 -0400 Received: from anshar.shadow.net (anshar.shadow.net [204.177.71.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01447; Fri, 24 May 1996 16:15:12 -0400 Received: from ppp-mia-14.shadow.net (ppp-mia-14.shadow.net [204.177.71.14]) by anshar.shadow.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA15957 for ; Fri, 24 May 1996 16:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 16:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605242019.QAA15957@anshar.shadow.net> X-Authentication-Warning: anshar.shadow.net: Host ppp-mia-14.shadow.net [204.177.71.14] didn't use HELO protocol X-Sender: chappe@shadow.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: D Chappe Subject: FS: (2) 4MB PCMCIA Cards For Sale: 2 Viking Platinum Card PCMCIA 4MB Cards Part number I5689 84G5689. 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From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 24 16:25:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19549; Fri, 24 May 96 16:25:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02550; Fri, 24 May 1996 16:21:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 24 May 1996 16:20:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02272; Fri, 24 May 1996 16:20:17 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02256; Fri, 24 May 1996 16:20:11 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uN3IQ-001B1HC; Fri, 24 May 96 14:17 MDT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960524201943.008b8950@[166.93.8.14]> X-Sender: ssh@[166.93.8.14] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 14:19:43 -0600 To: skat@pacific.net.sg (Sam King ), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Steve Hultquist Subject: Re: win 95 on tp701c. apm problem? At 01:44 AM 5/25/96 +0800, Sam King wrote: > it seems whenever my AC power is connected, and i disconnect it, > the machine hangs. has anyone had anything like this, or any solutions > to a problem like this? I have had the system just turn off when I disconnect it. I think some folks on this list mentioned that there might be replacement plugs for the AC adapter that get around this problem. ssh -- Steve Hultquist Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Web, Internet, LANs, WANs, Routing, Switching, Unix, PCs, NT, 95, OS/2 Specialists in temporary and demonstration environments http://www.wwsi.com/ 303.581.0800 Boulder, Colorado, USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 24 17:02:19 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20544; Fri, 24 May 96 17:02:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07095; Fri, 24 May 1996 17:00:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 24 May 1996 16:59:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06777; Fri, 24 May 1996 16:59:14 -0400 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06771; Fri, 24 May 1996 16:59:12 -0400 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id QAA19068; Fri, 24 May 1996 16:57:40 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 16:57:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: Hiralal Agrawal Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, hira@bellcore.com Subject: Re: /dev/mouse under Linux on Thinkpad 760CD In-Reply-To: <199605242009.QAA01995@ankur.bellcore.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 24 May 1996, Hiralal Agrawal wrote: > Which device file should the link "/dev/mouse" point to on a Thinkpad 760CD? > > I had Slackware 3.0 Linux configure my mouse as a PS/2 mouse. This caused > /dev/mouse to become a symbolic link to /dev/psaux. But when I start X it > complains that it can not open the mouse device. The usual cause is gpm running (console-mode mouse). X and gpm can't share a PS/2 mouse, so one interferes with the other. Login as root and kill gpm. -- John H. Kim There are only two industries that call their jokim@mit.edu customers 'users,' and one of them is illegal. jokim@tuna.mit.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 24 21:46:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29904; Fri, 24 May 96 21:46:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26929; Fri, 24 May 1996 21:45:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 24 May 1996 21:42:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26687; Fri, 24 May 1996 21:42:15 -0400 Received: from pdx.oneworld.com (iceberg.pdx.oneworld.com [204.87.185.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26680; Fri, 24 May 1996 21:42:09 -0400 Received: by pdx.oneworld.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0uN8M8-000hpaC; Fri, 24 May 96 18:41 PDT Received: from lscsjc.latticesemi.com by lscc.lattice.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uN8LI-000SIwC; Fri, 24 May 96 18:40 PDT Received: from joshua.poker by lscsjc.latticesemi.com (4.1/LSC-SM-1.2) id AA09680; Fri, 24 May 96 18:40:12 PDT Date: Fri, 24 May 96 18:40:12 PDT From: cmoon@lscsjc.latticesemi.com (Cho Moon) Message-Id: <9605250140.AA09680@lscsjc.latticesemi.com> Received: by joshua.poker (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07993; Fri, 24 May 96 18:40:15 PDT To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Large mouse pointer in Win95 for TP 701CS Hello, I recently did a clean installation of win95 on 701cs from a CD (I reformatted the hard disk, re-installed MS-DOS and then Win95). Everything went fine but I miss the large black mouse pointer from the original pre-load win3.1. The default mouse pointer in win95 is white and small, so it's difficult to see under bright light. I downloaded the large pointer program from the IBM ftp site, but this doesn't seem to be it Any idea on enlarging the pointer would be appreciated. Thank you. Cho Moon | Cho W. Moon | | Lattice Semiconductor, 1820 McCarthy Blvd., Milpitas, CA 95035-7425 | | (408) 428-6400x250 (voice) (408) 944-8444 (fax) cmoon@latticesemi.com | From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 24 23:23:51 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04438; Fri, 24 May 96 23:23:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03834; Fri, 24 May 1996 23:23:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 24 May 1996 23:20:58 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03699; Fri, 24 May 1996 23:20:55 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com (root@nova.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.101]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03683; Fri, 24 May 1996 23:20:52 -0400 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com (uucp1.unix.portal.com [156.151.4.11]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA25941; Fri, 24 May 1996 20:19:21 -0700 Received: (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id UAA15225; Fri, 24 May 1996 20:14:05 -0700 Received: from cc:Mail by espmail.espmail.com id AA832990548 Fri, 24 May 96 19:15:48 Date: Fri, 24 May 96 19:15:48 From: "Joe.Bormel" Encoding: 505 Text Message-Id: <9604248329.AA832990548@espmail.espmail.com> To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Subject: re: 755cx keeps jumping out of suspend >>My 755cx suddenly decided that it doesn't like the suspend state anymore. >>When I give it the ole' Alt-F4, it suspends. After about two seconds it >>decides to unsuspend itself. >> >> >>Any ideas? >> Thanks, >> Jeffrey I have been having the same and similiar problems. I know that it is software because I have several bootable disk drives and only my production disk drive does it. Usually, unplugging (AC power) the machine is necessary to achieve a suspend. So its not hardware. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 25 11:56:56 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18662; Sat, 25 May 96 11:56:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA09050; Sat, 25 May 1996 09:00:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 25 May 1996 08:41:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06347; Sat, 25 May 1996 08:41:26 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06329; Sat, 25 May 1996 08:41:11 -0400 Received: from lee.market1.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uNAvk-001B3ZC; Fri, 24 May 96 22:26 MDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 May 96 22:26 MDT X-Sender: lee@rmii.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: cmoon@lscsjc.latticesemi.com (Cho Moon), thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: lee@rmii.com (Lee Stewart) Subject: Re: Large mouse pointer in Win95 for TP 701CS >I recently did a clean installation of win95 on 701cs from a CD (I >reformatted the hard disk, re-installed MS-DOS and then Win95). >Everything went fine but I miss the large black mouse pointer from the >original pre-load win3.1. The default mouse pointer in win95 is white >and small, so it's difficult to see under bright light. I used that too. Look under start/settings/control panel/mouse/pointers and double click on 'Normal Select', then choose 'arrow_m.cur' (medium) or 'arrow_l.cur' (large) to change the size of the cursor. I haven't found a way to change the color yet... Lee Stewart From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 25 15:28:35 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21200; Sat, 25 May 96 15:28:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08212; Sat, 25 May 1996 15:27:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 25 May 1996 15:24:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07862; Sat, 25 May 1996 15:24:25 -0400 Received: from mail.his.com (root@mail.his.com [205.177.25.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA07851; Sat, 25 May 1996 15:24:18 -0400 Received: from sgs.his.com (sgs@sgs.his.com [205.252.80.23]) by mail.his.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA02287 for ; Sat, 25 May 1996 15:24:03 -0400 Message-Id: <199605251924.PAA02287@mail.his.com> From: "Simon G. Smith" To: "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Date: Sat, 25 May 96 15:31:28 -0400 Reply-To: "Simon G. Smith" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Simon Smith's Registered PMMail 1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: LIST ADMIN: change of e-mail Hi there, I'm sorry but I can't seem to find the instructions for this list, even the address where I originally wrote to subscribe...I need to changed addresses. I am currently on the list at "sgs1370@io.com" I want to change my address to "sgs@his.com" Is there a listserv address? (sorry to post this to the whole list) Simon G. Smith From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 25 15:33:26 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21306; Sat, 25 May 96 15:33:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08637; Sat, 25 May 1996 15:32:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 25 May 1996 15:31:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08530; Sat, 25 May 1996 15:31:45 -0400 Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08512; Sat, 25 May 1996 15:31:41 -0400 Received: from draconis ([203.120.82.84]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA3535 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 03:31:31 +0800 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960525192049.006d1e60@pacific.net.sg> X-Sender: skat@pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 03:20:49 +0800 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: skat@pacific.net.sg (Sam King ) Subject: 701c with win95 hello all, thanks to all of you who answered about my problem. i'd just like to clarify it here. i installed win95 on a clean partition, after running the latest system service diskette from ibm, which patched the bios to v3O and i also used that weird win95 setup disk. everything, i might add seems to work, all the APM functions, suspend, etc.. windows95 seems to be able to tell when the AC supply is removed, since the plug on the systray turns to a battery meter, .. that's when it hangs on me .. i tried switching of the display on the systray, but that didn't fix it either. could it be my APM for pcmcia? oh well, i only just thought of that one. i'll go try that out later and tell you folx abt it :) sam -Email skat@pacific.net.sg-------------------- -^^^Introducing.. The Invisible Signature!^^^- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sat May 25 17:07:11 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22501; Sat, 25 May 96 17:07:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13883; Sat, 25 May 1996 17:06:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sat, 25 May 1996 17:04:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13617; Sat, 25 May 1996 17:04:07 -0400 Received: from dragon.cnm.columbia.edu (dragon.cnm.columbia.edu [128.59.192.114]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13611; Sat, 25 May 1996 17:04:04 -0400 Received: from milou.jrn.columbia.edu (dialup249.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.36.249]) by dragon.cnm.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9/sed) with SMTP id RAA05743 for ; Sat, 25 May 1996 17:04:00 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960525210254.00741cdc@dragon.jrn.columbia.edu> X-Sender: yann@dragon.jrn.columbia.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 17:02:54 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Yann Nicolas Subject: Re: 701c with win95 >could it be my APM for pcmcia? oh well, i only just thought of that one. >i'll go try that out later and tell you folx abt it :) I'd call up IBM, explain the problem and ask them to send you a replacement AC adapter... It usually works... I got many battery replacements like that... -- Yann Nicolas Systems Coordinator -- Columbia Graduate School of Journalism nicolas@columbia.edu -- http://www.columbia.edu/~yn25/soccer.html From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 26 08:59:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22760; Sun, 26 May 96 08:59:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08581; Sun, 26 May 1996 08:58:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sun, 26 May 1996 08:51:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08085; Sun, 26 May 1996 08:50:59 -0400 Received: from ns.interserf.net (root@ns.interserf.net [205.244.8.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA08079; Sun, 26 May 1996 08:50:57 -0400 Received: from serfer23.interserf.net (serfer23.interserf.net [205.244.8.42]) by ns.interserf.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA07091 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 08:54:00 -0400 Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 08:54:00 -0400 Message-Id: <199605261254.IAA07091@ns.interserf.net> X-Sender: vicgonzlez@interserf.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Vic Gonzalez Subject: Parallel Port CD problems w/ 701C Hello All - Has anyone with a 701C had any luck getting parallel port CD drives (or any other parallel port device) working. Any tips or tricks? I have a CD drive that works great with my COMPAQ AERO but, when using the same generic drivers, says it doesn't see (during boot-up) the CD drive even though I see it being accessed. Doesn't seem to be an IRQ conflict, though my tools have been limited to MSD. Any input or suggestions welcome. Thanks. -Vic Gonzalez vicgonzlez@interserf.net From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 26 11:59:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24271; Sun, 26 May 96 11:59:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19151; Sun, 26 May 1996 11:58:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sun, 26 May 1996 11:56:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19021; Sun, 26 May 1996 11:56:04 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19013; Sun, 26 May 1996 11:56:01 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uNi8T-001B05C; Sun, 26 May 96 09:53 MDT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960526155611.008c373c@[166.93.8.14]> X-Sender: ssh@[166.93.8.14] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 09:56:11 -0600 To: Vic Gonzalez , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Steve Hultquist Subject: Re: Parallel Port CD problems w/ 701C At 08:54 AM 5/26/96 -0400, Vic Gonzalez wrote: > Has anyone with a 701C had any luck getting parallel port CD drives (or >any other parallel port device) working. Any tips or tricks? I have a CD >drive that works great with my COMPAQ AERO but, when using the same generic >drivers, says it doesn't see (during boot-up) the CD drive even though I see >it being accessed. > Doesn't seem to be an IRQ conflict, though my tools have been limited >to MSD. > Any input or suggestions welcome. Thanks. Make sure you upgrade the bios on your 701. The original versions (multiple!) of the bios had bugs in its parallel port support. We've been able to get parallel port CD ROMs to work *MOST OF THE TIME*. There are still occational vagaries, however. ssh -- Steve Hultquist Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Web, Internet, LANs, WANs, Routing, Switching, Unix, PCs, NT, 95, OS/2 Specialists in temporary and demonstration environments http://www.wwsi.com/ 303.581.0800 Boulder, Colorado, USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 26 12:17:41 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24430; Sun, 26 May 96 12:17:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20518; Sun, 26 May 1996 12:16:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sun, 26 May 1996 12:16:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20403; Sun, 26 May 1996 12:16:05 -0400 Received: from suba01.suba.com (suba01.suba.com [198.87.202.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20397; Sun, 26 May 1996 12:16:03 -0400 Received: from dial20.suba.com (dial20.suba.com [198.87.202.147]) by suba01.suba.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id LAA20248; Sun, 26 May 1996 11:15:51 -0500 From: epbrown@suba.com (E P Brown) To: Vic Gonzalez , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Parallel Port CD problems w/ 701C Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 16:19:56 GMT Message-Id: <31a88222.1313201@mail.suba.com> References: <199605261254.IAA07091@ns.interserf.net> In-Reply-To: <199605261254.IAA07091@ns.interserf.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/16.227 Don't CD drives need the port to be a certain type? With the latest BIOS I see a dialogue for changing the "type" of port to ECP, EPP, and such. This may work, though to me, the BIOS settings in the latest upgrade seem "slippery." I've tried to change the IRQ for the sound card, but it never stays at the IRQ, it always goes to the default again. BTW, did you know that all the settings in the BIOS go to default if you hold down the mouse keys during boot-up? EPBrown On Sun, 26 May 1996 08:54:00 -0400, you wrote: |Hello All - | Has anyone with a 701C had any luck getting parallel port CD drives (or |any other parallel port device) working. Any tips or tricks? I have a CD |drive that works great with my COMPAQ AERO but, when using the same generic |drivers, says it doesn't see (during boot-up) the CD drive even though I see |it being accessed. | Doesn't seem to be an IRQ conflict, though my tools have been limited |to MSD. | Any input or suggestions welcome. Thanks. | |-Vic Gonzalez |vicgonzlez@interserf.net | | ________________________________________________________ Harriet! Hairy. It. Hard-hearted harbinger of haggis. Beautiful. Bemused. Bellicose. Butcher. UN-trust-ing! UN-know-ing! UN-love-ed. "This Poem Sucks" by Mike Myers epbrown@suba.com ________________________________________________________ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 26 12:32:25 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24728; Sun, 26 May 96 12:32:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21756; Sun, 26 May 1996 12:31:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sun, 26 May 1996 12:30:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21598; Sun, 26 May 1996 12:30:32 -0400 Received: from anshar.shadow.net (anshar.shadow.net [204.177.71.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21591; Sun, 26 May 1996 12:30:30 -0400 Received: from ppp.shadow.net (ppp-mia-125.shadow.net [204.177.71.125]) by anshar.shadow.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA21438 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 12:35:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960526162826.4ccf52c2@mail.shadow.net> X-Sender: dwhite@mail.shadow.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 12:28:26 -0400 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Don Whiteside Subject: Re: Pin-out for PS2 port? At 04:54 PM 5/24/96 +0100, Jonathan Marshall - EMU91 wrote: >Thanks for your advice, however the cheapest I can find the adaptor in >britian is almost 30 ukp (from IBM themselves). Unless anyone can send me >a cheaper supplier in the uk, my question still remains: Does anyone have >the pin out connections for the combined keyboard/mouse ps2 port of a >Thinkpad? Sure. Looking at the connector on the pad, there are 6 pin sockets and a funny rectangular "key" socket. With the top of the socket being key socket up (IBM is notorious for flipping plugs willy nilly - it STILL gives me fits that the plugs on the dock are inverted from standard) and pin 1 being immediately to the right of the key pin, we go clockwise around the plug: 5: Mouse Clock 3: Ground(Earth) 1: Mouse data 2: Keyboard Data 4: +5V dc 6: Keyboard Clock I'm attaching a BMP to the message to Johnathan. Anyone else who wants to see it can email me, but it's not real impressive looking.... Donald Alan Whiteside, Official Computer Dork for the 1996 Olympics "Penis ownership is not a prerequisite to technological competence" - Me. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 26 12:57:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24891; Sun, 26 May 96 12:57:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22867; Sun, 26 May 1996 12:56:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sun, 26 May 1996 12:55:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22699; Sun, 26 May 1996 12:55:14 -0400 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp (firewall-user@ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp [202.32.89.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22673; Sun, 26 May 1996 12:55:04 -0400 Received: by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp; id BAA16136; Mon, 27 May 1996 01:54:53 +0900 Received: from unknown(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (g3.0.3) id xma016124; Mon, 27 May 96 01:54:42 +0900 Received: by ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id BAA14787; Mon, 27 May 1996 01:55:43 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id BAA21632; Mon, 27 May 1996 01:54:41 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id BAA21634; Mon, 27 May 1996 01:54:38 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 20:12:16 +0900 Message-Id: <199605261112.UAA00140@tubby.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9604248329.AA832990548@espmail.espmail.com> (joe.bormel@palmtop.com) Subject: re: 755cx keeps jumping out of suspend Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp Joe Bormel wrote: |> >>My 755cx suddenly decided that it doesn't like the suspend state anymore. |> >>When I give it the ole' Alt-F4, it suspends. After about two seconds it |> >>decides to unsuspend itself. |> |> I have been having the same and similiar problems. I know that it is |> software because I have several bootable disk drives and only my |> production disk drive does it Usually, unplugging (AC power) the machine |> is necessary to achieve a suspend. So its not hardware. Mmmm. The AC power bit doesn't seem to affect my situation. Since writing the original note I installed the W95 Thinkpad Utilites and set up everything, but it still acts the same. However, I did notice that if I close the display, it goes into suspend and stays. So at least I can suspend, but it seems quite odd. Jeffrey ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey Friedl Omron Corp, Nagaokakyo, Kyoto 617 Japan See my Jap<->Eng dictionary at http://www.wg.omron.co.jp/cgi-bin/j-e or at mirrors at [enterprise.ic.gc.ca] and [www.itc.omron.com] From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 26 13:14:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24993; Sun, 26 May 96 13:14:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23756; Sun, 26 May 1996 13:13:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sun, 26 May 1996 13:12:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23638; Sun, 26 May 1996 13:12:07 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23631; Sun, 26 May 1996 13:12:05 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uNjJy-001B00C; Sun, 26 May 96 11:09 MDT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960526171208.008c0090@[166.93.8.14]> X-Sender: ssh@[166.93.8.14] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 11:12:08 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Steve Hultquist Subject: Re: Parallel Port CD problems w/ 701C At 04:19 PM 5/26/96 GMT, E P Brown wrote: > Don't CD drives need the port to be a certain type? With the latest >BIOS I see a dialogue for changing the "type" of port to ECP, EPP, and >such. This may work, though to me, the BIOS settings in the latest upgrade >seem "slippery." I've tried to change the IRQ for the sound card, but it >never stays at the IRQ, it always goes to the default again. BTW, did you >know that all the settings in the BIOS go to default if you hold down the >mouse keys during boot-up? I think you need EPP, but I don't remember for sure. ssh -- Steve Hultquist Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Web, Internet, LANs, WANs, Routing, Switching, Unix, PCs, NT, 95, OS/2 Specialists in temporary and demonstration environments http://www.wwsi.com/ 303.581.0800 Boulder, Colorado, USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 26 13:30:47 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25090; Sun, 26 May 96 13:30:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24813; Sun, 26 May 1996 13:29:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sun, 26 May 1996 13:29:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24732; Sun, 26 May 1996 13:29:12 -0400 Received: from unix.asb.com (root@unix.asb.com [165.254.128.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24726; Sun, 26 May 1996 13:29:07 -0400 Received: from P1-6.SKYLANDS.NET (P1-6.SKYLANDS.NET [206.103.0.56]) by unix.asb.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA26457 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 13:55:03 -0400 From: christij@unix.asb.com (Joseph Christie) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Parallel Port CD problems w/ 701C Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 17:27:54 GMT Organization: Just me and I'm not organized Message-Id: <31a87bed.3360366@unix.asb.com> References: <199605261254.IAA07091@ns.interserf.net> In-Reply-To: <199605261254.IAA07091@ns.interserf.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/16.227 On Sun, 26 May 1996 08:54:00 -0400, you wrote: >Hello All - > Has anyone with a 701C had any luck getting parallel port CD drives (or >any other parallel port device) working. Any tips or tricks? I have a CD >drive that works great with my COMPAQ AERO but, when using the same generic >drivers, says it doesn't see (during boot-up) the CD drive even though I see >it being accessed. > Doesn't seem to be an IRQ conflict, though my tools have been limited >to MSD. > Any input or suggestions welcome. Thanks. > >-Vic Gonzalez >vicgonzlez@interserf.net > > You don't say whether you are using the parallel/floppy port of the multiport parallel port. I use LinkWiz parallel port transfer cables to transfer files from my TP to my desktop on a regular basis using the floppy/parallel port. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 423B78C80FEA5495 CF64AD5F214797DE http://www.asb.com/usr/christij 95E3789C5679C4D7 03210B57E76FE66 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Sun May 26 14:07:50 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25416; Sun, 26 May 96 14:07:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27138; Sun, 26 May 1996 14:07:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Sun, 26 May 1996 14:05:40 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26870; Sun, 26 May 1996 14:05:38 -0400 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (root@chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26851; Sun, 26 May 1996 14:05:34 -0400 Received: from [128.125.223.200] (comserv-g-56.usc.edu [128.125.223.200]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id LAA27829; Sun, 26 May 1996 11:05:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 11:05:47 -0700 To: Steve Hultquist , Vic Gonzalez , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: Parallel Port CD problems w/ 701C At 9:56 AM 5/26/96, Steve Hultquist wrote: >Make sure you upgrade the bios on your 701. The original versions >(multiple!) of the bios had bugs in its parallel port support. We've been >able to get parallel port CD ROMs to work *MOST OF THE TIME*. There are >still occational vagaries, however. If it were me, I'm not so sure I'd be keen on upgrading. I think there are too many 701 owners on this list that did that and ended up having all sorts of weird, unidentifiable problems. In many cases those same people found a way to backpedal to a previous BIOS version (I think "N") and the problems disappeared. Meanwhile, for those of us who never upgraded beyond "N", we never had those odd problems to begin with... ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche --is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 27 02:27:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08430; Mon, 27 May 96 02:27:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09421; Mon, 27 May 1996 02:26:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 27 May 1996 02:22:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09123; Mon, 27 May 1996 02:22:30 -0400 Received: from mnl.sequel.net (mnl.sequel.net [204.255.104.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09107; Mon, 27 May 1996 02:22:27 -0400 Received: from JCMS.sequel.net by mnl.sequel.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA13577; Mon, 27 May 1996 14:17:59 +0800 Message-Id: <31A94AB1.15C@mnl.sequel.net> Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 14:24:49 +0800 From: Juan Carlos Sibal Organization: Central Professional Books Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad users Subject: lithium battery for the 701? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just wondering if the 701 has a lithium ion battery option. I'm aware of the NIMH but in the May 1996 issue of BYTE magazine, the article "Perfect-Fit Portables" states:" For an additional $150, you can buy a lithium ion battery (for the Butterfly) , which should boost the charge by about 20 percent..." Any comments? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 27 12:38:26 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18354; Mon, 27 May 96 12:38:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28648; Mon, 27 May 1996 12:37:05 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 27 May 1996 12:24:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27548; Mon, 27 May 1996 12:24:04 -0400 Received: from netcom7.netcom.com (phr@netcom7.netcom.com [192.100.81.115]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27542; Mon, 27 May 1996 12:24:02 -0400 Received: (from phr@localhost) by netcom7.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id JAA21412; Mon, 27 May 1996 09:24:00 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 09:24:00 -0700 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199605271624.JAA21412@netcom7.netcom.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Mon, 27 May 1996 re: 755cx jumps out of suspend Mine does the exact same thing, at least on ac power. I thought it was just typical w95 stupidity. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 27 12:42:53 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18430; Mon, 27 May 96 12:42:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29044; Mon, 27 May 1996 12:42:03 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 27 May 1996 12:40:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28822; Mon, 27 May 1996 12:40:30 -0400 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (root@chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28810; Mon, 27 May 1996 12:40:27 -0400 Received: from [128.125.222.17] (comserv-b-17.usc.edu [128.125.222.17]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id JAA22124; Mon, 27 May 1996 09:40:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 09:40:51 -0700 To: Juan Carlos Sibal , thinkpad users From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: lithium battery for the 701? At 2:24 PM 5/27/96, Juan Carlos Sibal wrote: >Just wondering if the 701 has a lithium ion battery option. I'm aware of the >NIMH but in the May 1996 issue of BYTE magazine, the article "Perfect-Fit >Portables" states:" For an additional $150, you can buy a lithium ion battery >(for the Butterfly) , which should boost the charge by about 20 percent..." > >Any comments? If this is true, I'd like to buy one. But offhand, I'm willing to bet that article got something wrong. Lithium requires a different charging cycle which is not likely built-in to the 701's charging method. NiMH and NiCD use virtually the same charging cycle, but Lithium's is different enough that you can't just stick it in and charge it the same way you would one of these others. (don't ask me the electical details, but my father was involved in designing batteries for a while and told me this). So I'm guessing Byte go something wrong--or that you have to buy a separate external charger to use this battery. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche --is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 27 15:19:29 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20390; Mon, 27 May 96 15:19:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10846; Mon, 27 May 1996 15:14:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 27 May 1996 15:10:24 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10364; Mon, 27 May 1996 15:10:21 -0400 Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10354; Mon, 27 May 1996 15:10:18 -0400 Received: from dd ([203.120.81.135]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA4306; Tue, 28 May 1996 03:10:09 +0800 From: skat@pacific.net.sg (Sam King ) To: "Juan Carlos Sibal" , "thinkpad users" , "Randy Whittle" Subject: Re: lithium battery for the 701? Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 02:59:15 +0800 X-Msmail-Priority: High X-Priority: 1 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1080 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19960527191008.AAA4306@dd> > >Just wondering if the 701 has a lithium ion battery option. I'm aware of the > >NIMH but in the May 1996 issue of BYTE magazine, the article "Perfect-Fit > >Portables" states:" For an additional $150, you can buy a lithium ion battery > >(for the Butterfly) , which should boost the charge by about 20 percent..." > > > >Any comments? > > If this is true, I'd like to buy one. > > But offhand, I'm willing to bet that article got something wrong. > Lithium requires a different charging cycle which is not likely built-in to > the 701's charging method. NiMH and NiCD use virtually the same charging > cycle, but Lithium's is different enough that you can't just stick it in > and charge it the same way you would one of these others. (don't ask me > the electical details, but my father was involved in designing batteries > for a while and told me this). > > So I'm guessing Byte go something wrong--or that you have to buy a > separate external charger to use this battery. Well, if i'm not wrong, IBM uses some technology called Smart batteries. such batteries contain the charging unit inside the battery. that would explain the 4 terminals on the battery, 2 for the current supplied by the battery, and 2 for the power supply to the internal charger. anyone knows more about this? sam. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 27 20:37:45 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24124; Mon, 27 May 96 20:37:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03242; Mon, 27 May 1996 20:36:55 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 27 May 1996 20:33:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02839; Mon, 27 May 1996 20:33:20 -0400 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02833; Mon, 27 May 1996 20:33:18 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id RAA16264; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:33:16 -0700 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma833243595.016259; Mon May 27 17:33:15 1996 Received: from perley-ppp.cadence.com (annex-sj4-19.cadence.com [158.140.31.41]) by cds9258.cadence.com (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id RAA03860; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:33:08 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 17:33:08 -0700 Message-Id: <199605280033.RAA03860@cds9258.cadence.com> X-Sender: perley@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: skat@pacific.net.sg (Sam King ) From: Don Perley Subject: Re: lithium battery for the 701? Cc: "thinkpad users" At 02:59 AM 5/28/96 +0800, Sam King wrote: >Well, if i'm not wrong, IBM uses some technology called Smart batteries. Any particular reason you marked this message "highest priority"? Isn't that for things that need timely/immediate attention? (like when my manager needs some 401K form filled out by noon). Having the sirens in the mail program go off and yank my priority chain just to find out about the batteries in a 701 doesn't top my list of emergencies. The message you replied to came as normal priority, so I was just wondering why you thought it was a hot enough topic to bump it up to highest? -Don Perley perley@cadence.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 27 20:38:53 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24130; Mon, 27 May 96 20:38:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03403; Mon, 27 May 1996 20:38:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 27 May 1996 20:37:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03328; Mon, 27 May 1996 20:37:42 -0400 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03320; Mon, 27 May 1996 20:37:39 -0400 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id RAA16515; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:37:37 -0700 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma833243856.016512; Mon May 27 17:37:36 1996 Received: from perley-ppp.cadence.com (annex-sj4-19.cadence.com [158.140.31.41]) by cds9258.cadence.com (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id RAA03975; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:37:33 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 17:37:33 -0700 Message-Id: <199605280037.RAA03975@cds9258.cadence.com> X-Sender: perley@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) From: Don Perley Subject: Re: thinkpad digest for Mon, 27 May 1996 Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu At 09:24 AM 5/27/96 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote: >re: 755cx jumps out of suspend >Mine does the exact same thing, at least on ac power. >I thought it was just typical w95 stupidity. My 755 comes out of suspend if the phone line is hooked up and there is activity on the line (could be an outgoing call, not necessarily a ring signal). This is on Windows For Workgroups and the wake on ring option set. -Don Perley perley@cadence.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Mon May 27 22:42:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25849; Mon, 27 May 96 22:42:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11823; Mon, 27 May 1996 22:41:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 27 May 1996 22:39:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11605; Mon, 27 May 1996 22:39:44 -0400 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11599; Mon, 27 May 1996 22:39:42 -0400 Received: from [128.125.223.76] (comserv-f-04.usc.edu [128.125.223.76]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id TAA25323; Mon, 27 May 1996 19:39:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 19:40:04 -0700 To: skat@pacific.net.sg (Sam King ), "Juan Carlos Sibal" , "thinkpad users" From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: lithium battery for the 701? At 2:59 AM 5/28/96, Sam King wrote: >> >Just wondering if the 701 has a lithium ion battery option. I'm aware >> Lithium requires a different charging cycle which is not likely built-in >Well, if i'm not wrong, IBM uses some technology called Smart batteries. >such batteries contain the charging unit inside the battery. that would >explain the 4 terminals on the battery, 2 for the current supplied by the >battery, and 2 for the power supply to the internal charger. That would be a very clever way around the problem, if it is indeed a reality and it works. ----- Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu http://www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle USC Graduate School of Business Women often ask, "What do men really want, deep in their souls?" The best answer--based on in-depth analysis of the complex and subtle interplay of thought, instinct, and emotion that constitutes the male psyche --is that deep in their souls, men want to watch stuff go 'bang'. - Dave Barry, October 2, 1994 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 28 05:45:57 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06607; Tue, 28 May 96 05:45:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA13627; Tue, 28 May 1996 05:44:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 28 May 1996 05:41:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA13356; Tue, 28 May 1996 05:41:06 -0400 Received: from mail.physics.ox.ac.uk (mail.physics.ox.ac.uk [163.1.244.140]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA13343; Tue, 28 May 1996 05:41:01 -0400 Received: from geoff.physics.ox.ac.uk (pc138.physics.ox.ac.uk) by mail.physics.ox.ac.uk with SMTP (Oxford Physics Sendmail for ) id AA13124; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:40:53 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960528094151.006c7074@mail.physics.ox.ac.uk> X-Sender: hogangp@mail.physics.ox.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:41:51 +0100 To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu From: Geoff Hogan Subject: Mouse goes AWOL in Warp Has anyone had this problem, or, better still, can suggest a solution? I'm running O/S2 Warp Connect on a TP755CX with 16Mb. From time to time I find that when I click my left mouse button when setting things up, particularly on pull down menus, I find the mouse pointer vanishes. To restore it I have to drive it off to close to the edge of the screen. Even then, sometines, it disappears again when I hit the edge of a window and I have to drive out and back. Sometimes just clicking on a clear desktop also makes it vanish. Any suggestions? - It is very frustrating when choosing from a list you then want to press 'OK' but have to go off to one side and come back. Geoff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr G P Hogan Laser Group, Clarendon Laboratory, Tel: +44 1865 272205 Parks Road, Oxford, OX1 3PU Fax: +44 1865 272400 UK Email: g.hogan@physics.ox.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 28 11:35:57 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16421; Tue, 28 May 96 11:35:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11304; Tue, 28 May 1996 11:33:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 28 May 1996 11:30:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11055; Tue, 28 May 1996 11:30:31 -0400 Received: from anshar.shadow.net (anshar.shadow.net [204.177.71.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11039; Tue, 28 May 1996 11:30:26 -0400 Received: from 6324-1b.kendall.mdcc.edu (6324-1b.kendall.mdcc.edu [147.70.152.121]) by anshar.shadow.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA14622; Tue, 28 May 1996 11:34:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960528152808.44c7d12e@mail.shadow.net> X-Sender: dwhite@mail.shadow.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 11:28:08 -0400 To: Don Perley From: Don Whiteside Subject: OFF-TOPIC: Idiotic mail add-on features Cc: "thinkpad users" At 05:33 PM 5/27/96 -0700, Don Perley wrote: >Any particular reason you marked this message "highest priority"? Isn't that >for things that need timely/immediate attention? (like when my manager needs >some 401K form filled out by noon). It's worth remembering that this priority crap is a Eudora hack, not part of internet email standards. However, since you and others (including myself) have chosen to avail ourselves of programs that add such idiocies and do things like set sounds to respond to this stuff, here is what I teach all the people in my email classes to do: If you're on a mailing list and using Eudora Pro, set up a filter to identify messages that have To: or Cc: lines of thinkpad@cs.utk.edu and set it to LOWER the priority. If you're on a mailing list and using Eudora Light, either buy EPro or turn off alarms for priorities - you're putting yourself at the mercy of every chucklehead on the Internet who (a) doesn't understand priorities (b) has different priorities than you or (c) set it by accident. I am always reading in Comp.RISKS about mailers mis-identifying these custom headers used by other mailers. Relying on yours to not get borked by other headers in a mixed-platform enviornment like inet email is asking for trouble. Donald Alan Whiteside, Official Computer Dork for the 1996 Olympics "Penis ownership is not a prerequisite to technological competence" - Me. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 28 20:38:10 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05865; Tue, 28 May 96 20:38:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28344; Tue, 28 May 1996 20:36:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 28 May 1996 20:28:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26981; Tue, 28 May 1996 20:28:40 -0400 Received: from suba01.suba.com (suba01.suba.com [198.87.202.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26972; Tue, 28 May 1996 20:28:38 -0400 Received: from dial46.suba.com (dial46.suba.com [198.87.202.173]) by suba01.suba.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id TAA17222 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 19:28:30 -0500 From: epbrown@suba.com (E P Brown) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops Subject: Re: IBM 701C "Butterfly" Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 00:32:40 GMT Message-Id: <31ab9a94.15304686@news.suba.com> References: <31A21390.4C03@a1.tch.harvard.edu> <833193124.279snx@fm.rhein-main.de> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/16.227 I've heard rumors that IBM will no longer make *any* model notebook for more than 6 months. Anyone else heard this? Is this actually feasible, given the drop off in price when they stop production? EPBrown fm@fm.rhein-main.de (Frieder Monninger) wrote: |:In article <31A21390.4C03@a1.tch.harvard.edu> orourkee@a1.tch.harvard.edu writes: |:>and weight that has little advantage over a traditional notebook like an |:>IBM 360 or 760. Still, it is nice to be able to throw the base unit |: ... |: Long time I used such Notebook (360/30). It filled a whole big room, |: had 64 kbyte, could compile in PL/I and was about DM 1000 a day |: (to be paid to IB) |: |:I write this comments on a nice 701 which I could afford as |:there was a closeout sale. So (at least for me ;-) IBM was right |:to stop production. |: |:-- |: _____________/ Frieder Monninger D-35619 Braunfels-Altenkirchen |:(_|____|______\_________ http://www.serve.com/frieder fm@fm.rhein-main.de |: >-\_______________) |: ________________________________________________________ Harriet! Hairy. It. Hard-hearted harbinger of haggis. Beautiful. Bemused. Bellicose. Butcher. UN-trust-ing! UN-know-ing! UN-love-ed. "This Poem Sucks" by Mike Myers epbrown@suba.com ________________________________________________________ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 28 21:21:27 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07336; Tue, 28 May 96 21:21:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04703; Tue, 28 May 1996 21:19:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 28 May 1996 21:18:26 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04427; Tue, 28 May 1996 21:18:24 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04416; Tue, 28 May 1996 21:18:20 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uOZrc-001B2cC; Tue, 28 May 96 19:15 MDT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960529011822.009077bc@[166.93.8.14]> X-Sender: ssh@[166.93.8.14] X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 19:18:22 -0600 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Steve Hultquist Subject: IBM Announcement Listserver Documents Since some folks were asking... >Return-Path: >Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 20:09:35 -0400 >From: announce@webster.ibmlink.ibm.com (IBM Announcement Listserver) >To: ssh@ns.gu >Subject: IBM Announcement Listserver Documents > > >---- Announcement Letter 996133 ---- > >Hardware Withdrawal: Selected IBM ThinkPad Systems -- Replacements >Available > >Product Announcement Number 996-133 >Announced on May 28, 1996 > >Effective June 28, 1996, IBM will withdraw from marketing the >products listed in the Product Withdrawals section. After >June 28, 1996, you can no longer obtain these products directly from >IBM. You can obtain these products on an as-available basis through >IBM authorized remarketers with an approved value add or IBM >Authorized Personal Computer Dealers. > >Affected Product Information: The following machine types are >affected by this announcement: 2524, 2620, 2625, 2630, and 9545. >Refer to the Product Withdrawals section for applicable models. > >Replacement Product Information > Machine >Withdrawn Product Replacement Product Type > >ThinkPad(R) 755CD ThinkPad 760CD 9546 >ThinkPad 755CV/CDV ThinkPad 755CV/CDV > (Pentium) 9545 >ThinkPad 730T ThinkPad 730TE 2524 >ThinkPad 755CX ThinkPad 760L 9547 >ThinkPad 360PE None >ThinkPad 365C/CS/CD/CSD ThinkPad 365E/ED > (5x86) 2625 >ThinkPad 701C/CS ThinkPad 560 2640 > >(R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines > Corporation in the United States or other countries or both. > > Other trademarks and registered trademarks are the properties > of their respective owners. > > > >PRODUCT WITHDRAWALS > Machine Model Order >Description Type Number Number > >ThinkPad 730T (4MB Memory, 0MB HDD) 2524 801 2524801 >ThinkPad 730T (4MB Memory, 105MB HDD) 2524 80F 252480F >ThinkPad 730T (8MB Memory, 0MB HDD) 2524 900 2524900 >ThinkPad 730T (8MB Memory, 0MB HDD) 2524 901 2524901 >ThinkPad 730T (8MB Memory, 105MB HDD) 2524 90F 252490F >ThinkPad 360PE (Pentium, 340MB) 2620 B0F 2620B0F >ThinkPad 360PE (Pentium, 540MB) 2620 B0G 2620B0G >ThinkPad 365CSD (DSTN, DX4, 8MB Memory, > 540MB, CD-ROM, DBOOT) 2625 A05 2625A05 >ThinkPad 365CS (DSTN, DX4, 8MB Memory, > 340MB, DBOOT) 2625 203 2625203 >ThinkPad 365CS (DSTN, DX4, 8MB Memory, > 540MB, DBOOT) 2625 205 2625205 >ThinkPad 365C (TFT, DX4, 8MB Memory, > 540MB, DBOOT) 2625 305 2625305 >ThinkPad 365CSD (DSTN, DX4, 8MB Memory, > 540MB, CD-ROM, Windows+ 95) 2625 W14 2625W14 >ThinkPad 365CD (TFT, DX4, 8MB Memory, > 540MB, CD-ROM, DBOOT) 2625 B05 2625B05 >ThinkPad 365CD (TFT, DX4, 8MB Memory, > 540MB, CD-ROM, Windows 95) 2625 W15 2625W15 >ThinkPad 365CS (DSTN, DX4, 8MB Memory, > 340MB, Windows 95) 2625 W11 2625W11 >ThinkPad 365CS (DSTN, DX4, 8MB Memory, > 540MB, Windows 95) 2625 W12 2625W12 >ThinkPad 365C (TFT, DX4, 8MB Memory, > 540MB, Windows 95) 2625 W13 2625W13 >ThinkPad 701CS (DSTN, DX4, 8MB Memory, > 360MB) 2630 2SU 26302SU >ThinkPad 701C (TFT, DX4, 8MB Memory, > 360MB) 2630 2TU 26302TU >ThinkPad 701CS (DSTN, DX4, 8MB Memory, > 540MB) 2630 5SU 26305SU >ThinkPad 701C (TFT, DX4, 8MB Memory, > 540MB) 2630 5TU 26305TU >ThinkPad 701CS (DSTN, DX4, 8MB Memory, > 720MB) 2630 7SU 26307SU >ThinkPad 701C (TFT, DX4, 8MB Memory, > 720MB) 2630 7TU 26307TU >ThinkPad 755CD (TFT, DX4, 100MHz, > 540MB, CD-ROM) 9545 9BD 95459BD >ThinkPad 755CD (TFT, DX4, 100MHz, > 810MB, CD-ROM) 9545 9BE 95459BE >ThinkPad 755CD (TFT, Pentium 75MHz, > 810MB, CD-ROM) 9545 FBK 9545FBK >ThinkPad 755CD (TFT, Pentium 75MHz, > 1.2GB, CD-ROM) 9545 FBL 9545FBL >ThinkPad 755CDV (OHP, DX4, 100MHz, > 540MB, CD-ROM) 9545 ABJ 9545ABJ >ThinkPad 755CDV (OHP, DX4, 100MHz, > 810MB, CD-ROM) 9545 ABK 9545ABK >ThinkPad 755CV (OHP, DX4, 100MHz, > 540MB) 9545 8BJ 95458BJ >ThinkPad 755CX (TFT, Pentium 75MHz, > 540MB) 9545 HBD 9545HBD >ThinkPad 755CX (TFT, Pentium 75MHz, > 810MB) 9545 HBE 9545HBE >ThinkPad 755CX (TFT, Pentium 75MHz, > 1.2GB) 9545 HBL 9545HBL >ThinkPad 755CX (TFTV, Pentium 75MHz, > 540MB) 9545 SBJ 9545SBJ >ThinkPad 755CX (TFTV, Pentium 75MHz, > 810MB) 9545 SBK 9545SBK > >+ Registered trademark of Microsoft Corporation > > -- Steve Hultquist Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Web, Internet, LANs, WANs, Routing, Switching, Unix, PCs, NT, 95, OS/2 Specialists in temporary and demonstration environments http://www.wwsi.com/ 303.581.0800 Boulder, Colorado, USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Tue May 28 22:32:05 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11869; Tue, 28 May 96 22:32:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16627; Tue, 28 May 1996 22:30:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Tue, 28 May 1996 22:28:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16175; Tue, 28 May 1996 22:28:04 -0400 Received: from atlas.odyssee.net ([204.50.80.201]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16117; Tue, 28 May 1996 22:27:55 -0400 Received: from pool9_6.odyssee.net (pool9_6.odyssee.net [204.50.77.150]) by atlas.odyssee.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA19922 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 22:31:45 -0400 Received: by pool9_6.odyssee.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BB4CE4.612E4F60@pool9_6.odyssee.net>; Tue, 28 May 1996 22:24:04 -0400 Message-Id: <01BB4CE4.612E4F60@pool9_6.odyssee.net> From: Neil Di Meglio To: "'thinkpad@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: IR on a TP755CE Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 22:23:56 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Did anyone succeeded in using the Win95 IR driver version 2.0 with a = Thinkpad 755CE. I am using an Adaptec Infrared adapter for my desktop = and both computers communicate when using the Tranxit software i, but = nothing happens when the Win95 driver is used (ie I always get the "No = available infrared devices in range" message.) I installed the latest infrared driver for the Thinkpad, v 2.01, and the = infrared port is set on Com 1 with irq 4 and external the serial port on = Com 1 is set to off. Any suggestions. Neil Thanks! From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 29 01:05:52 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20581; Wed, 29 May 96 01:05:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11569; Wed, 29 May 1996 01:04:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 29 May 1996 01:01:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11203; Wed, 29 May 1996 01:01:35 -0400 Received: from earth.usa.net (wdunn@earth.usa.net [192.156.196.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11193; Wed, 29 May 1996 01:01:33 -0400 Received: (from wdunn@localhost) by earth.usa.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) id XAA19702; Tue, 28 May 1996 23:01:28 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 23:01:27 -0600 (MDT) From: Will Dunn/Leopard Communications X-Sender: wdunn@earth To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Hello list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I work for a high-tech marketing company in Boulder, CO and I tend a herd of ThinkPads -- 755Cs,CEs,CDs,CXs and the occasional CDV. I also watch over a 701C, a few 700s and 720s and the odd 750. Every now and then I take a phone call from the odd IBM executive about different ThinkPads and what they can do. I have set them up on different networks running different operating systems and other configurations, including setting them for sound, colorspace and networking-- sometimes a dozen at a time on very short notice. And I have spent an ETERNITY waiting on hold for ThinkPad support. Much of what I have learned about ThinkPads has been from sleepless nights and from the help of the guys at World Wide Solutions, Inc. I hope to learn a thing or two from this list and will help when I can. Thanks for listening. --wwd Will Dunn Leopard Communications Boulder, CO From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 29 01:18:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20969; Wed, 29 May 96 01:18:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13283; Wed, 29 May 1996 01:16:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 29 May 1996 01:14:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12912; Wed, 29 May 1996 01:14:50 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12903; Wed, 29 May 1996 01:14:47 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uOdYW-001B5YC; Tue, 28 May 96 23:12 MDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 May 96 23:12 MDT From: "Stephen S. Hultquist" To: wdunn@leopard.com Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: (message from Will Dunn/Leopard Communications on Tue, 28 May 1996 23:01:27 -0600 (MDT)) Subject: Re: Hello list I work for a high-tech marketing company in Boulder, CO and I tend a herd of ThinkPads -- 755Cs,CEs,CDs,CXs and the occasional CDV. I also watch over a 701C, a few 700s and 720s and the odd 750. Every now and then I take a phone call from the odd IBM executive about different ThinkPads and How odd, Will?! :-) what they can do. I have set them up on different networks running different operating systems and other configurations, including setting them for sound, colorspace and networking-- sometimes a dozen at a time on very short notice. And I have spent an ETERNITY waiting on hold for ThinkPad support. Much of what I have learned about ThinkPads has been from sleepless nights and from the help of the guys at World Wide Solutions, Inc. Thanks, bro! I'll pay ya later! :-) Here's an interesting question: Those of you that are sheparding herds of machines like Will, how are you handling the rapid roll-over of technology? ssh From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 29 01:44:11 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21653; Wed, 29 May 96 01:44:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16481; Wed, 29 May 1996 01:39:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 29 May 1996 01:37:35 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16225; Wed, 29 May 1996 01:37:32 -0400 Received: from grolsch.cs.ubc.ca (grolsch.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.6.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16216; Wed, 29 May 1996 01:37:29 -0400 Received: (from ean@localhost) by grolsch.cs.ubc.ca (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA11047 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 28 May 1996 22:37:19 -0700 X400-Received: by /PRMD=ca/ADMD=telecom.canada/C=ca/; Relayed; Tue, 28 May 1996 22:37:18 UTC-0700 Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 22:37:18 UTC-0700 X400-Originator: goldberg@cs.ubc.ca X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=ca/ADMD=telecom.canada/C=ca/;960528223718] Content-Identifier: 7947 From: "Murray W. Goldberg" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (return) Message-Id: <"7947*goldberg@cs.ubc.ca"@MHS> Subject: Processor Upgrades Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Ean X.400 to MIME gateway) Just a quick not to say how my experience with Portable Enhancement Products went. I sent my 360C in for a processor (and memory) upgrade. It had a 48633sx, and came back with an AMD 133 DX4. All I can say is that it all went perfectly. The cost was $500 us (for the processor upgrade) and it has given my 360 a new lease on life. It is *way* faster (as you would expect). Battery life is not noticeably affected. PEP did exactly what they said they would and turnaround was only a couple days. My experience leads me to recommend this upgrade if you have similar performance problems (I run Linux on my laptop and it is much happier now - the silly "bogomips" rating has gone from 13 to 66). The usual disclaimer about having no connection with PEP other than being a satisfied customer applies here. Regards - Murray ------------------------------ Murray W. Goldberg, Instructor Dept. of Computer Science, University of British Columbia 2366 Main Mall, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, V6T 1Z4 (604) 822-3153, goldberg@cs.ubc.ca From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 29 06:54:24 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00431; Wed, 29 May 96 06:54:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07874; Wed, 29 May 1996 06:52:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 29 May 1996 06:49:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07384; Wed, 29 May 1996 06:49:50 -0400 Received: from linteuto.teuto.de (root@linteuto.teuto.de [194.77.23.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07370; Wed, 29 May 1996 06:49:45 -0400 Received: from warper.teuto.de by linteuto.teuto.de with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #5) id m0uOiga-000k3xC; Wed, 29 May 96 12:41 MET DST Message-Id: From: "Philipp Adelt" To: "Thinkpad mailing list" Date: Wed, 29 May 96 12:30:48 +0100 Reply-To: "Philipp Adelt" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Philipp Adelt's Registered PMMail 1.5 Subject: Hello everone! Hi! I was just subscribed to this list. Thanks! Now I would like you to know what a thingy I have here. It is one of those Thinkpad 755CD. It has 24 Megs of RAM and (since a week) 1.2 gigs of harddisc. There is this 90C24 in as grafx processor (should be in there, eh? ;). An MWave is in there, of course. It has an IBM PCMCIA 14.400 Fax-modem and an IBM PCMCIA Token Ring adapter. OK, now I'm in here and I will flood you with my first problem in a minute! Ciao, Philipp! ******************** Coffee level low - Operator halted Philipp Adelt Bielefeld padelt@warper.teuto.de http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2867 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 29 06:54:31 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00438; Wed, 29 May 96 06:54:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07869; Wed, 29 May 1996 06:52:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 29 May 1996 06:48:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07207; Wed, 29 May 1996 06:48:50 -0400 Received: from linteuto.teuto.de (root@linteuto.teuto.de [194.77.23.26]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA07195; Wed, 29 May 1996 06:48:45 -0400 Received: from warper.teuto.de by linteuto.teuto.de with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #5) id m0uOimD-000k46C; Wed, 29 May 96 12:46 MET DST Message-Id: From: "Philipp Adelt" To: "Thinkpad mailing list" Date: Wed, 29 May 96 12:34:13 +0100 Reply-To: "Philipp Adelt" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Philipp Adelt's Registered PMMail 1.5 Subject: How to get V7320 in TP755CD under OS/2 Warp running? Hi again! The subject nearly says it all: I need to do Video-IN and Video-OUT (Video-IN is the most important) using the V7320 processor inside the Thinkpad 755CD. After a lot of hassle, I got the Video-IN thingy from the Bonuspak to install. But now, I'm lacking the driver to operate the V7320. I tried to follow all the steps in the docu to no avail. Could *PLEASE* someone help me? I have asked in nearly every os2->grafx/video newsgroup and asked on #os/2, but nobody knows. Any genius in here who can give me at least a little hint? Thanks in advance! Ciao, Philipp! ******************** Don't try to think about it - KNOW IT! Philipp Adelt Bielefeld Germany padelt@warper.teuto.de http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2867 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 29 08:54:57 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06448; Wed, 29 May 96 08:54:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25035; Wed, 29 May 1996 08:53:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 29 May 1996 08:49:29 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24432; Wed, 29 May 1996 08:49:27 -0400 Received: from kodakr.kodak.com (kodakr.kodak.com [150.220.251.69]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24421; Wed, 29 May 1996 08:49:24 -0400 Received: from Horizon.kodak.com ([129.126.232.5]) by kodakr.kodak.com with SMTP id AA12931 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 29 May 1996 08:46:36 -0400 Received: by Horizon.kodak.com with Microsoft Mail id <31AC7218@Horizon.kodak.com>; Wed, 29 May 96 08:49:44 PDT From: "King, Randall" To: thinkpad Subject: Re: Hello list Date: Wed, 29 May 96 08:49:00 PDT Message-Id: <31AC7218@Horizon.kodak.com> Encoding: 63 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I too tend to a very large flock (or is that a gaggle? :) of 'pads. 700's, 720's, 750's, 360's, 755's (CD, CX, CV, CDV), and 760's (C, CD, LD). Basically my manager was good enough to recognize when we were going to need to order new 'pads, and he ordered a ton of them (literally, a ton). The big problem I have is that with the lines rolling over so quickly, the setup routines I have are worthless within a year or so. I wish IBM would pick a 'pad, and then offer upgrades, rather than making it extinct so quickly. We bought quite a few 755CX's, weeks before IBM decided that they didn't want them any more. Now we can't buy the same machine any more. Ooops! My other big peeve is with the choices that the people over at IBM are making in the new models. Sure the MWave machines are cool, but in our business world, we don't really need them. We also don't need the best color screen that money can buy. What we do need is the modularity of the old Thinkpads (and compatibility with older models), with a fairly robust processor. The 755CX was the last machine that was ideal for us, and had all of these features. Now you either get modularity, heaped in with MWave, DIMM only memory, butterfly keyboards, etc., or you get a machine that needs a watch repairman to fix. I wish IBM would realize that all of the gadgets are neat selling points, but some of us want machines that will complement our old machines, not make us retool ever time we want to upgrade. ...and that's all I gotta say about that. RK ps- do I seem grumpy before my first cup of coffee? :( Bite me! :) ---------- >From: owner-thinkpad >To: wdunn >Cc: thinkpad >Subject: Re: Hello list >Date: Tuesday, May 28, 1996 11:12PM > > I work for a high-tech marketing company in Boulder, CO and I tend a herd > of ThinkPads -- 755Cs,CEs,CDs,CXs and the occasional CDV. I also watch > over a 701C, a few 700s and 720s and the odd 750. Every now and then I > take a phone call from the odd IBM executive about different ThinkPads and > >How odd, Will?! :-) > > what they can do. I have set them up on different networks running > different operating systems and other configurations, including > setting them for sound, colorspace and networking-- sometimes a dozen > at a time on very short notice. > And I have spent an ETERNITY waiting on hold for ThinkPad support. > Much of what I have learned about ThinkPads has been from sleepless > nights and from the help of the guys at World Wide Solutions, Inc. > >Thanks, bro! I'll pay ya later! :-) > >Here's an interesting question: Those of you that are sheparding herds of >machines like Will, how are you handling the rapid roll-over of technology? > >ssh > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 29 11:31:52 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14439; Wed, 29 May 96 11:31:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21044; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:30:28 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 29 May 1996 11:27:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20540; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:27:16 -0400 Received: from mnl.sequel.net (mnl.sequel.net [204.255.104.30]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20525; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:27:12 -0400 Received: from jcs.sequel.net by mnl.sequel.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA08534; Wed, 29 May 1996 23:22:44 +0800 Message-Id: <31AC6D25.3E8F@mnl.sequel.net> Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 23:28:37 +0800 From: Juan Carlos Sibal Organization: Central Professional Books Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 560 dual-scan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I just want to know if anyone has seen the 560's 11.3" dual scan screen. I'm interested in one and would want to know about the quality of its display. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 29 11:36:18 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14767; Wed, 29 May 96 11:36:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21692; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:34:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 29 May 1996 11:31:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21264; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:31:51 -0400 Received: from sunny.cc.uit.no (root@sunny.Cc.Uit.No [129.242.6.64]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21256; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:31:46 -0400 Received: from sunny.cc.uit.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sunny.cc.uit.no (8.7.1/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02202 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:32:44 +0200 Message-Id: <199605291532.RAA02202@sunny.cc.uit.no> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Big disks on 701's X-Uri: http://www.cc.uit.no/~bjoerns/ Organization: Bjoern @ Home Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 17:32:42 +0200 From: Bjoern Stabell Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there, What's the biggest disk any of you have seen on a 701? I wanted to upgrade my 540MB HD, but 720MB still seems a bit small. I've heard about >1GB 1/2" height disks so I figure there must be someone out there that has some experience with 701's and larger than 720MB HD's. Please share any success or failure stories. Bye, --=20 Bj=F8rn Stabell From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 29 11:58:29 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16601; Wed, 29 May 96 11:58:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25444; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:55:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 29 May 1996 11:53:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25122; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:53:50 -0400 Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25112; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:53:47 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA27639; Wed, 29 May 96 11:51:45 EDT Date: Wed, 29 May 96 11:51:45 EDT From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9605291551.AA27639@nile.gnat.com> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: upgrades for 90MHz 760CD anyone know *anything* about this item? I can't find it anywhere and believe it does not exist (I am talking about the upgrade to 120MHz). 1-800-IBM-2YOU got someone who said that he "sure would like to be able to sell it", but he still had not seen it and had no dates. A chain of five further telephone conversations got someone who had the nerve to blame in on Intel for not supplying the upgrade chip that was needed!! (this is a motherboard upgrade, and OF COURSE the motherboards are being made -- they are just going into machines instead of upgrades!) I am quite annoyed, I bought the 90MHz macine on the basis of an assurance from IBM that the upgrade would be available shortly. P.S. Anyone have any experience with the Tecra 720CDT, this looks like it might be a better bet than any of the available thinkpads? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 29 12:34:39 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18294; Wed, 29 May 96 12:34:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01977; Wed, 29 May 1996 12:32:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 29 May 1996 12:29:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01321; Wed, 29 May 1996 12:29:14 -0400 Received: from discworld (discworld.bid.fh-hannover.de [192.108.52.95]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01296; Wed, 29 May 1996 12:29:05 -0400 Received: from localhost by discworld with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0uNeua-0004nDC; Sun, 26 May 96 13:27 GMT+0100 Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 13:27:08 +0100 (GMT+0100) From: Hanno Wagner X-Sender: wagner@discworld.bid.fh-hannover.de Reply-To: wagner@bidnix.bid.fh-hannover.de To: "John H. Kim" Cc: Hiralal Agrawal , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu, hira@bellcore.com Subject: Re: /dev/mouse under Linux on Thinkpad 760CD In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! On Fri, 24 May 1996, John H. Kim wrote: > The usual cause is gpm running (console-mode mouse). X and gpm can't > share a PS/2 mouse, so one interferes with the other. Login as root and > kill gpm. That's not quite right. With 1.2.xx-kernels gpm and X doesn't want to work together. But with kernels >1.3.89 these programs work perfectly in the same time. Ciao, Hanno -- pgp-fingerprint: 7D C1 01 72 75 22 01 4F 6F 08 06 49 1B 02 4A A6 Linux: Because a PC is a terrible thing to waste. (By komarimf@craft.camp.clarkson.edu, Mark Komarinski) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 29 14:09:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22522; Wed, 29 May 96 14:09:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16444; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:04:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 29 May 1996 14:00:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15648; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:00:32 -0400 Received: from shrsys.hslc.org (SHRSYS.HSLC.ORG [192.100.94.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15607; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:00:24 -0400 Received: from SHRSYS.HSLC.ORG by SHRSYS.HSLC.ORG (PMDF V5.0-6 #15479) id <01I5A3S6O8SO8X3JKF@SHRSYS.HSLC.ORG>; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:59:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 13:59:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Dennis J. Gormley" Subject: Re: Hello list To: wdunn@leopard.com Cc: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: GORMLEY@SHRSYS.HSLC.ORG Message-Id: <01I5A3S6OAOQ8X3JKF@SHRSYS.HSLC.ORG> X-Vms-To: IN%"wdunn@leopard.com" X-Vms-Cc: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > From: IN%"wdunn@leopard.com" "Will Dunn/Leopard Communications" 29-MAY-1996 01:05:25.29 > Subj: Hello list > I hope to learn a thing or two from this list and will help when I can. > At the very least, sooner or later you'll learn how every member on the list defines megabyte! :) \ Dennis J. Gormley Tel: (215) 222-1532 \\ Operations Manager Fax: (215) 222-0416 \\\\ Health Sciences Libraries Consortium Int: gormley@hslc.org \\\\\\ 3600 Market Street, Suite 550 H S L C Philadelphia, PA 19104-2646 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 29 14:37:00 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23488; Wed, 29 May 96 14:37:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20774; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:34:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 29 May 1996 14:31:54 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20377; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:31:52 -0400 Received: from sparty.surf.com (sparty.surf.com [206.14.59.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20367; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:31:48 -0400 Received: from sandy.sandy.com ([206.14.89.139]) by sparty.surf.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id LAA06287 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:30:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960529183101.006f2d70@surf.com> X-Sender: sandy@surf.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 11:31:01 -0700 To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Sandy Meltzer Subject: Re: upgrades for 90MHz 760CD At 11:51 AM 5/29/96 EDT, you wrote: >I am quite annoyed, I bought the 90MHz macine on the basis of an assurance >from IBM that the upgrade would be available shortly. > >P.S. Anyone have any experience with the Tecra 720CDT, this looks like it >might be a better bet than any of the available thinkpads? (An open letter to Robert Dewar) Oh no! Can this be true?? I must be dreaming...the impossible of all impossibles...Robert "The ThinkPad Kid" Dewar asking about the Toshiba Tecra 720CDT??? I can die in peace now knowing I've seen everything! :-) That's it IBM...time to shutdown the factory...your number one supporter is about to jump ship...I hope none of you own IBM stock! :) Robert, I've been on this mailing list for ages now...and you are the absolute last ThinkPad user I would have expected to hear utter the unspeakable "T" word (Toshiba). With your twenty-seven ThinkPads running day and night and probably more tucked away in various hiding places (closet, under the bed, in your underwear draw?), I can't believe I'm hearing this. :-) WOW...you must be VERY "annoyed". Frankly, can't say I blame you. By the time my new 760ED comes, It will probably be obsolete or I might be too old to use it.:) IBM continues to makes one heck of a laptop/notebook but is clearly having problems producing them and their support policies seem to be getting stranger all the time. This whole issue of upgradeability is extremely important...especially when we're spending $7000+ for a new ThinkPad. My guess is that the design-to- production cycle has been shortened so dramatically due to quickly evolving technology and brisk competition, that IBM doesn't have the time or desire to worry about upgrades. If I knew for sure that IBM has no intention of providing some upgrade path for the 760ED, I'd cancel my order immediately and look elsewhere too. Let me know how you like the new 720CDT...especially that 1024x768 resolution. Maybe I'll buy one too instead of waiting...waiting...waiting...for the 760ED. Best Regards, _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +-------.oOOo--()--oOOo.-----+-------------------------+ | InterNet : sandy@sandy.com | Reflections By Design | | Web Page : www.sandy.com | Web Design & Production | | Location : Cupertino, CA | Info? Call 408-257-2800 | +---------------- Oooo.------+-------------------------+ .oooO ( ) zzz.|\ _,,,---,,_ ( ) ) / /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_.. \ ( (_/ |,*< ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-` \_) '---''(_/--' `-'\_) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 29 16:23:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27787; Wed, 29 May 96 16:23:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08333; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:20:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 29 May 1996 16:16:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07790; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:16:38 -0400 Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com (dogmead.excelsior.com [198.73.240.129]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07780; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:16:34 -0400 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA17440 for thinkpad@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:16:25 -0400 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199605292016.QAA17440@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Jumper Settings for Dock I To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu (ThinkPad Mailing List) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 16:16:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've recently purchased a used Dock I, but unfortunately it didn't come with a manual. I'd be very grateful if someone who owns one could take a quick look and send me the definitions for the internal jumper settings. (Actually, the jumpers are labelled on the board, but there are a couple of switch blocks which aren't documented there). Many thanks in advance! Of course, the next step is to get one of those crazy SCSI cables for the external port... -- Tim Tyhurst tim@excelsior.com From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 29 16:41:14 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28454; Wed, 29 May 96 16:41:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11539; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:38:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 29 May 1996 16:36:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11075; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:36:07 -0400 Received: from biobase.dk (biobase.dk [130.225.13.135]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11055; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:36:02 -0400 Received: by biobase.dk; id AA14349; Wed, 29 May 1996 22:37:45 +0200 From: Paulo Magalhaes Message-Id: <9605292037.AA14349@biobase.dk> Subject: 750Cs memory To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 22:37:45 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Ok, at last I have some funds available! My old and faithful TP750Cs, currently with 8 Mb RAM (4+4, of course), deserves a little better... So, who's selling memory cards cheap these days? Phone #s and contacts would be appreciated, as well as any companies which may want to take the original 4 Mb card (which is of no use to me, after I get the new 16 Mb one) as part of the deal. Thanks in advance for all the info. -- Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 29 17:09:43 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29679; Wed, 29 May 96 17:09:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16342; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:07:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 29 May 1996 17:04:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15879; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:04:55 -0400 Received: from hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu [129.65.26.104]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15856; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:04:49 -0400 Received: (from mfukatsu@localhost) by hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (8.6.9/ELEE) id OAA27071; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:04:36 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 14:04:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Fukatsu To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP755CD, Linux - sound and CD-ROM problems Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I've been listening in on the list for a while figured it's time to ask some questions. I have a TP755CD, with 75Mhz pentium, 8M RAM, 1.2G HD, and I am running Win95 and Linux. I've been folloing around with Linux for about 6months now, and I just reinstalled my entire Linux System recently. My problem is that I've never been able to get my CD-ROM and Sound to work. It's been driving me crazy! I've read that it can be done, but I've never seen anyone say exactly how they did it. I have the April 96 developer's resource, and I would like to be able to USE it! Thanks, Mike -- mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 29 17:21:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00072; Wed, 29 May 96 17:21:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18100; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:17:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 29 May 1996 17:16:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17869; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:16:20 -0400 Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17861; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:16:17 -0400 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA10829; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:58:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Wed, 29 May 96 15:58 CDT Date: Wed, 29 May 96 15:58 CDT X-Sender: runngdog@popmail.mcs.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) From: runngdog@mcs.com (Dane Tyson) Subject: Tecra 720CDT vs. 760ED Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu >P.S. Anyone have any experience with the Tecra 720CDT, this looks like it >might be a better bet than any of the available thinkpads? No experience yet, but the reviews have been very good (May's PC Computing, March's Windows Sources), feature-for-feature it seems to offer more than the 760ED (e.g., XGA screen, 6x CD-ROM, better docking station, Zoom Video support, though no MPEG hardware) for significantly less money, and most importantly, the product really exists and is really shipping. After over a month of waiting for a 760ED ordered 2 hours after IBM's April announcement (and still with no definite shipping date -- "tentatively June 28" is what my reseller told me today), I placed an order for a 720CT with Micro Solutions last Friday. I was quoted a 3-week wait, but when I called back today was told it will actually ship early next week. A collegue of mine will be receiving his 720 tomorrow, and I'll be looking at it closely at it. Originally, I placed the 720 order on the assumption that (best case) I might receive it within the 30-day MBG period on my 760ED and could do a side-by-side comparison of the two and make up my mind on that basis. But now with a bird soon to be in my hand, I'm not so sure I'm willing to wait an additional month for IBM to show me what's in the bush. I'd be very curious to know if anyone on this list has seen or heard anything at all regarding the 760ED (reviews, early user experiences, etc.) that might lead me to hold off a little longer on this decision? Regards, Dane Tyson From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 29 17:31:44 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00301; Wed, 29 May 96 17:31:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19880; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:27:32 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 29 May 1996 17:24:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19371; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:24:40 -0400 Received: from thud.cs.utk.edu (THUD.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.228]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19363; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:24:39 -0400 From: Vaidy Sunderam Received: by thud.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id RAA16547; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:24:37 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 17:24:37 -0400 Message-Id: <199605292124.RAA16547@thud.cs.utk.edu> To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 755cd ac adapter connector problem Hi, I have recently started having trouble with the ac adapter plug that goes into the back of my 755cd (4 pin with beveled corners) It appears that electrical contact is not well made, and I have to jiggle the connector or prop a book up against it for power to flow (& the battery to charge) I suspect it is just the connector. Has anyone experienced such problems ? Does anyone know of a fix? Thanks Vaidy Sunderam From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 29 18:05:25 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02926; Wed, 29 May 96 18:05:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23929; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:52:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 29 May 1996 17:50:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23607; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:50:16 -0400 Received: from balder.ssds.com (balder.ssds.com [204.131.72.62]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23586; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:50:11 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by balder.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) id PAA01080; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:49:57 -0600 Received: from denver(134.127.16.1) by balder via smap (V1.3) id sma001078; Wed May 29 15:49:56 1996 Received: by denver.ssds.com id PAA22792; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:49:51 -0600 (MDT) From: chris.liljenstolpe@ssds.com (Christopher Liljenstolpe) To: Vaidy Sunderam Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 755cd ac adapter connector problem Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 21:45:39 GMT Sender: chris.liljenstolpe@ssds.com Organization: SSDS, Inc. Reply-To: chris.liljenstolpe@ssds.com Message-Id: <31acc568.16748255@denver.ssds.com> References: <199605292124.RAA16547@thud.cs.utk.edu> In-Reply-To: <199605292124.RAA16547@thud.cs.utk.edu> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Greetings, I had very similar problems, and they had to replace my DC-DC board on my 755CE =Chris On Wed, 29 May 1996 17:24:37 -0400, the sage Vaidy Sunderam scribed: >Hi, > >I have recently started having trouble with the ac adapter plug >that goes into the back of my 755cd (4 pin with beveled corners) >It appears that electrical contact is not well made, and I have >to jiggle the connector or prop a book up against it for >power to flow (& the battery to charge) I suspect it is just the connector. > >Has anyone experienced such problems ? Does anyone know of a fix? > >Thanks > >Vaidy Sunderam > -- ( ( | ( Chris Liljenstolpe ) ) (| ), inc. 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PGP Key 1024/E8546BD5 FE 43 BD A6 3C 13 6C DB 89 B3 E4 A1 BF 6D 2A A9 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 29 18:33:52 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05103; Wed, 29 May 96 18:33:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26036; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:07:38 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 29 May 1996 15:04:21 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25379; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:04:18 -0400 Received: from earth.usa.net (wdunn@earth.usa.net [192.156.196.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25373; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:04:15 -0400 Received: (from wdunn@localhost) by earth.usa.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) id NAA12630; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:04:07 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 13:04:06 -0600 (MDT) From: Will Dunn/Leopard Communications X-Sender: wdunn@earth To: thinkpad Subject: The first thing I have learned . . . Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII . . . is that vendors of ThinkPad products monitor this list! Mentioning that I am responible for the care and feeding of my heard of ThinkPads has annoyed the company receptionist since I now lead the company in cold calls from vendors. Incidently, I have enough problems without answering the telephone. So. Attention Vendors: PLEASE DO NOT CONTACT ME WITH YOUR PITCH. PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME E-MAIL. IF I AM INTERESTED IN A PATICULAR PRODUCT I WILL ASK!!! Thanks. Now back to your regularly scheduled list . . . --wwd Will Dunn Leopard Communications Boulder, CO From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Wed May 29 19:58:33 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08602; Wed, 29 May 96 19:58:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13508; Wed, 29 May 1996 19:54:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 29 May 1996 19:51:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13000; Wed, 29 May 1996 19:50:57 -0400 Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA12989; Wed, 29 May 1996 19:50:54 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA08693; Wed, 29 May 96 19:48:45 EDT Date: Wed, 29 May 96 19:48:45 EDT From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9605292348.AA08693@nile.gnat.com> To: sandy@surf.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: upgrades for 90MHz 760CD of course the Tecra is not really available either yet. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 30 00:01:37 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21264; Thu, 30 May 96 00:01:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22900; Thu, 30 May 1996 00:00:04 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 29 May 1996 23:50:31 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21259; Wed, 29 May 1996 23:50:28 -0400 Received: from upsmot03.msn.com (upsmot03.msn.com [204.95.110.85]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21249; Wed, 29 May 1996 23:50:24 -0400 Received: from upmajb02.msn.com (upmajb02.msn.com [204.95.110.74]) by upsmot03.msn.com (8.6.8.1/Configuration 4) with SMTP id UAA24548; Wed, 29 May 1996 20:44:06 -0700 Date: Thu, 30 May 96 03:49:29 UT From: "Mike Blaszczak" Message-Id: To: "Vaidy Sunderam" , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: 755cd ac adapter connector problem Is your connector inside of a plastic rectangular handle that's about 2.5 or 3 inches long? My original ThinkPad power supply had such a connector, and it's simply the most under-engineered thing I've ever seen: any force on the cable will just stress the connector and cause it to break. Someone on CompuServe posted that theirs snapped on the first day because the computer was on a desk and they picked up the front end of it to look for the serial number. IBM reps on CompuServe weren't at all responsive when I complained. I ended up requesting a warranty replacement for mine (after trying to glue it). The connector is a piece of trash _inside_, too: because of its construction, it's likely to short or open even if damage isn't visible to the exterior because the connectors are tack-welded and are the only structural member in the very last half-inch of the plug. The warranty power supply was entirely different: it was bigger, but lighter. The cable from the power cube to the connector was thicker, and made of a single, small piece of molded plastic: that is, it was of a competant design. I like my ThinkPad, but the MWave device and the original power plug are two huge weaknesses. .B ekiM ---------- From: Vaidy Sunderam Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 1996 2:24 PM To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 755cd ac adapter connector problem Hi, I have recently started having trouble with the ac adapter plug that goes into the back of my 755cd (4 pin with beveled corners) It appears that electrical contact is not well made, and I have to jiggle the connector or prop a book up against it for power to flow (& the battery to charge) I suspect it is just the connector. Has anyone experienced such problems ? Does anyone know of a fix? Thanks Vaidy Sunderam From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 30 00:31:46 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22625; Thu, 30 May 96 00:31:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28515; Thu, 30 May 1996 00:30:22 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 30 May 1996 00:28:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28206; Thu, 30 May 1996 00:28:44 -0400 Received: from onyx.interactive.net (root@onyx.interactive.net [204.97.113.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28184; Thu, 30 May 1996 00:28:35 -0400 Received: from columbus (daver@onyx.interactive.net [204.97.113.2]) by onyx.interactive.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA12497 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 00:30:37 -0400 Message-Id: <199605300430.AAA12497@onyx.interactive.net> From: "David W. Young" To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" Subject: TP720 & PCMCIA Modem? Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 00:27:09 -0400 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yup, I still have my clunky 720C. Looking at the new 560's with intense desire though. Anyway, I'm at a loss as far as installing the PCMCIA modem goes under Warp. I've tried several "revised" PCMCIA socket/card service sets, various instances of COM.SYS and such, all with no luck. The auto enabler just can't get the binding to COM2 to stick for some reason. Has anyone successfully accomplished this feat? -- David W. Young Internet Systems Consultant Internet: dwy@ace.net Tel: 201.798.5217 Pager: 917.537.0089 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 30 01:24:59 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24423; Thu, 30 May 96 01:24:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA06053; Thu, 30 May 1996 01:23:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 30 May 1996 01:20:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA05502; Thu, 30 May 1996 01:20:08 -0400 Received: from earth.usa.net (wdunn@earth.usa.net [192.156.196.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA05488; Thu, 30 May 1996 01:20:06 -0400 Received: (from wdunn@localhost) by earth.usa.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) id XAA02604; Wed, 29 May 1996 23:20:02 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 23:20:01 -0600 (MDT) From: Will Dunn/Leopard Communications X-Sender: wdunn@earth To: thinkpad Subject: Re: TP720 & PCMCIA Modem? In-Reply-To: <199605300430.AAA12497@onyx.interactive.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have gotten this to work -- with Megahertz and IBM PCMCIA modems. Some help, please: what type of card, what type of error message (if any) and when you laoded Warp did you specify that you would be using PCMCIA cards (the default seems to be no PCMCIA support) or have you loaded the PCMCIA features? --wwd Will Dunn Leopard Communictions Boulder, CO On Thu, 30 May 1996, David W. Young wrote: > Yup, I still have my clunky 720C. > Looking at the new 560's with intense desire though. > > Anyway, I'm at a loss as far as installing the PCMCIA modem goes under > Warp. > I've tried several "revised" PCMCIA socket/card service sets, various > instances > of COM.SYS and such, all with no luck. The auto enabler just can't get the > binding to COM2 to stick for some reason. > > Has anyone successfully accomplished this feat? > > -- > David W. Young > Internet Systems Consultant > Internet: dwy@ace.net Tel: 201.798.5217 Pager: 917.537.0089 > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 30 09:01:18 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12033; Thu, 30 May 96 09:01:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20654; Thu, 30 May 1996 08:59:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 30 May 1996 08:53:44 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19793; Thu, 30 May 1996 08:53:40 -0400 Received: from noralf.uib.no (noralf.uib.no [129.177.30.12]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19767; Thu, 30 May 1996 08:53:31 -0400 Received: from golf.uib.no by noralf.uib.no with SMTP (PP); Thu, 30 May 1996 14:51:30 +0200 Received: from admorg1742.svf.uib.no by golf.uib.no with SMTP id OAA27998 (8.7.5/3.HMK for uib.no); Thu, 30 May 1996 14:51:54 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960530125226.26b74f7a@golf.uib.no> X-Sender: soatj@golf.uib.no X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 14:52:26 +0200 To: Mike Blaszczak , Vaidy Sunderam , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Thor Jensen Subject: RE: 755cd ac adapter connector problem We had two breakdows of adapter connevtors of the new type just after purrchase and IBM refused to get us new ones (they are right in that they did break as a result of external force) It took 4 months to get new ones !!!!!!. And the we got the "old" version with a short plug. The new type has a "combination" plug that can change the tip to fit both 750 and 360 series, but the small 2 or 4-pin front plugs have no part number and can not be replaced ! The whole arrangement breaks easy because it is to long and= stiff. > > > Thor =D8ivind Jensen Dep of Administration and Organization Theory Univ of Bergen phone +47 55 21 21 53 home: +47 55 20 22 48 fax +47 55 32 12 89 mob: +47 946 246 90 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 30 09:57:03 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14084; Thu, 30 May 96 09:57:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01238; Thu, 30 May 1996 09:56:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 30 May 1996 09:54:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00669; Thu, 30 May 1996 09:53:58 -0400 Received: from anshar.shadow.net (anshar.shadow.net [204.177.71.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00659; Thu, 30 May 1996 09:53:56 -0400 Received: from 6324-1b.kendall.mdcc.edu (6324-1b.kendall.mdcc.edu [147.70.152.121]) by anshar.shadow.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA21004; Thu, 30 May 1996 09:58:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960530135149.445fda2a@mail.shadow.net> X-Sender: dwhite@mail.shadow.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 09:51:49 -0400 To: Thor Jensen , thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Don Whiteside Subject: RE: 755cd ac adapter connector problem At 02:52 PM 5/30/96 +0200, Thor Jensen wrote: >The new type has >a "combination" plug that can change the tip to fit both 750 and 360 series, >but the small 2 or 4-pin front plugs have no part number and can not be >replaced ! The whole arrangement breaks easy because it is to long and stiff. My solution to that oversized piece of garbage (in addition to being fragile of course) was to pull out my dikes and snip it off. Then I soldered the modular plug onto the wire and used some liquid electrical tape to seal it up. Donald Alan Whiteside, Official Computer Dork for the 1996 Olympics "Penis ownership is not a prerequisite to technological competence" - Me. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 30 10:34:24 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16491; Thu, 30 May 96 10:34:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08545; Thu, 30 May 1996 10:33:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 30 May 1996 10:30:33 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07819; Thu, 30 May 1996 10:30:28 -0400 Received: from mail.voicenet.com (mail.voicenet.com [207.103.0.35]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07780; Thu, 30 May 1996 10:30:18 -0400 Received: from tp755cd (phi-pa9-07.ix.netcom.com [205.186.159.71]) by mail.voicenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA11128; Thu, 30 May 1996 10:30:07 -0400 Message-Id: <199605301430.KAA11128@mail.voicenet.com> From: "Alan Sukiennik" To: "mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: TP755CD, Linux - sound and CD-ROM problems Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 10:29:12 -0400 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fire up Win95 in prompt session loading the mwave and cdrom drivers, and load Linux using LOADLIN. Should work like a charm. Regards, Alan ---------- > From: Michael Fukatsu > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: TP755CD, Linux - sound and CD-ROM problems > Date: Wednesday, May 29, 1996 5:04 PM > > > Hi, > > I've been listening in on the list for a while figured it's time to ask > some questions. I have a TP755CD, with 75Mhz pentium, 8M RAM, 1.2G HD, > and I am running Win95 and Linux. I've been folloing around with Linux > for about 6months now, and I just reinstalled my entire Linux System > recently. > > My problem is that I've never been able to get my CD-ROM and Sound to > work. It's been driving me crazy! I've read that it can be done, but > I've never seen anyone say exactly how they did it. I have the April 96 > developer's resource, and I would like to be able to USE it! > > Thanks, > Mike > > > -- > mfukatsu@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu > mfukatsu@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu > http://www.elee.calpoly.edu/~mfukatsu/ > > > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 30 10:36:22 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16609; Thu, 30 May 96 10:36:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08729; Thu, 30 May 1996 10:34:36 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 30 May 1996 10:32:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08123; Thu, 30 May 1996 10:32:00 -0400 Received: from mail.voicenet.com (mail.voicenet.com [207.103.0.35]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08100; Thu, 30 May 1996 10:31:54 -0400 Received: from tp755cd (phi-pa9-07.ix.netcom.com [205.186.159.71]) by mail.voicenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA11519; Thu, 30 May 1996 10:31:49 -0400 Message-Id: <199605301431.KAA11519@mail.voicenet.com> From: "Alan Sukiennik" To: "sunderam@cs.utk.edu" , "thinkpad@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: 755cd ac adapter connector problem Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 10:31:00 -0400 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've got exact same problem. Sorry, this msg doesn't contribute anything ;-) Alan ---------- > From: Vaidy Sunderam > To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu > Subject: 755cd ac adapter connector problem > Date: Wednesday, May 29, 1996 5:24 PM > > Hi, > > I have recently started having trouble with the ac adapter plug > that goes into the back of my 755cd (4 pin with beveled corners) > It appears that electrical contact is not well made, and I have > to jiggle the connector or prop a book up against it for > power to flow (& the battery to charge) I suspect it is just the connector. > > Has anyone experienced such problems ? Does anyone know of a fix? > > Thanks > > Vaidy Sunderam > > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 30 13:15:12 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23479; Thu, 30 May 96 13:15:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07186; Thu, 30 May 1996 13:12:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 30 May 1996 13:06:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06312; Thu, 30 May 1996 13:06:41 -0400 Received: from unix.asb.com (root@unix.asb.com [165.254.128.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA06301; Thu, 30 May 1996 13:06:37 -0400 Received: from sls9.asb.com (sls9.asb.com [165.254.128.19]) by unix.asb.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA09902 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 13:34:50 -0400 From: christij@unix.asb.com (Joseph Christie) To: thinkpad Subject: Re: The first thing I have learned . . . Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 17:05:36 GMT Organization: Just me and I'm not organized Message-Id: <31add3c1.1959614@unix.asb.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/16.227 On Wed, 29 May 1996 13:04:06 -0600 (MDT), you wrote: >. . . is that vendors of ThinkPad products monitor this list! Mentioning >that I am responible for the care and feeding of my heard of ThinkPads has >annoyed the company receptionist since I now lead the company in cold >calls from vendors. Incidently, I have enough problems without answering >the telephone. > >So. > >Attention Vendors: > >PLEASE DO NOT CONTACT ME WITH YOUR PITCH. PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME >E-MAIL. IF I AM INTERESTED IN A PATICULAR PRODUCT I WILL ASK!!! > >Thanks. > >Now back to your regularly scheduled list . . . > >--wwd > >Will Dunn >Leopard Communications >Boulder, CO > > > > > I am thinking of amending my .sig to state my policy on this. I NEVER purchase anything over the phone or via email unless I initiate the contact, This lowers the possibility of dealing with charlatans and fly-by-night vendors. So if you have a great product and want me to consider it - DO NOT - phone or email unsolicited sales/advertising in my direction because the only thing it accomplishes is to get your product added to my "do_not_buy_this_garbage" list and your company name added to my "never_deal_with_these_clueless_morons" list. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 423B78C80FEA5495 CF64AD5F214797DE http://www.asb.com/usr/christij 95E3789C5679C4D7 03210B57E76FE66 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I am for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole. - Malcolm X From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 30 13:36:21 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24376; Thu, 30 May 96 13:36:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10734; Thu, 30 May 1996 13:34:20 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 30 May 1996 13:32:09 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10365; Thu, 30 May 1996 13:32:07 -0400 Received: from onyx.interactive.net (daver@onyx.interactive.net [204.97.113.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10356; Thu, 30 May 1996 13:32:04 -0400 Received: (daver@localhost) by onyx.interactive.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA06250; Thu, 30 May 1996 13:33:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 13:33:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "David W. Young" To: Will Dunn/Leopard Communications Cc: thinkpad Subject: Re: TP720 & PCMCIA Modem? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 29 May 1996, Will Dunn/Leopard Communications wrote: > I have gotten this to work -- with Megahertz and IBM PCMCIA modems. Some > help, please: what type of card, what type of error message (if any) > and when you laoded Warp did you specify that you would be using PCMCIA > cards (the default seems to be no PCMCIA support) or have you loaded the > PCMCIA features? This is a Megahertz XJ1144. There's no error message; AUTODRV2.SYS makes the beeping sounds and briefly illuminates the PCMCIA light as thought the binding stuck, but it dies before I ever reach the workplace shell. I've loaded the following: - OS/2 Warp default thinkpad 720 PCMCIA drivers - ThinkPad features 1.30 for the 720 - OS/2 PCMCIA diskette ... separately, but none of them have worked successfully. HTH, Dave --- David W. Young - Internet Systems Consultant EMail: dwy@ACE.NET Tel: [201]/798-5217 Pager: [917]/537-0089 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 30 15:39:48 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29784; Thu, 30 May 96 15:39:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00361; Thu, 30 May 1996 15:34:06 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 30 May 1996 15:29:57 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29605; Thu, 30 May 1996 15:29:54 -0400 Received: from mail.execpc.com (mail.execpc.com [169.207.16.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29597; Thu, 30 May 1996 15:29:51 -0400 Received: from milamber.execpc.com (milamber.execpc.com [169.207.8.224]) by mail.execpc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA20056 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 14:29:42 -0500 (CDT) From: emjay@execpc.com (Tom Kustner) To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Diff. between 760E+ CD-ROM & 760CD? Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 19:32:52 GMT Organization: Emjay Corporation Message-Id: <31aded32.15297711@mailgate.execpc.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/16.227 Familiar story: We were promised a 760CD and were told later we couldn't get one. However, we were told that they could ship us a 760E immediately (though the CD-ROM upgrade would take 2 weeks to get here). I have yet to go through the specs (or call IBM) or hit the WWW, but off-hand, are there any differences between these two configurations? I am told by the vendor that the only complaint that they had had was that with the 760E, you couldn't remove the CD-ROM while the machine was on. Are there any other problems? Thanks for your help. Oh, yes. We want to run Windows 3.1 on it and it comes with Win95. Anyone who has gotten it to run with Windows 3.1 - I'd like to hear from you. Thanks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. Email: emjay@execpc.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay's. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 30 16:14:02 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00029; Thu, 30 May 96 15:43:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01251; Thu, 30 May 1996 15:39:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 30 May 1996 15:37:56 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00991; Thu, 30 May 1996 15:37:54 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00978; Thu, 30 May 1996 15:37:51 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uPDUx-001BAbC; Thu, 30 May 96 13:35 MDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 May 96 13:35 MDT From: "Stephen S. Hultquist" To: emjay@execpc.com (Tom Kustner) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Diff. between 760E+ CD-ROM & 760CD? In-Reply-To: <31aded32.15297711@mailgate.execpc.com> References: <31aded32.15297711@mailgate.execpc.com> Tom Kustner writes: > Oh, yes. We want to run Windows 3.1 on it and it comes with Win95. > Anyone who has gotten it to run with Windows 3.1 - I'd like to hear > from you. Thanks. You may have a problem with drivers. MWave will be ok, but I don't know about the video drivers. That's a new adapter, as I recall. You'll probably have a problem with MPEG, etc., too. ssh -- Steve Hultquist Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Web, Internet, LANs, WANs, Routing, Switching, Unix, PCs, NT, 95, OS/2 Specialists in temporary and demonstration environments http://www.wwsi.com/ 303.581.0800 Boulder, Colorado, USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 30 18:55:11 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12535; Thu, 30 May 96 18:55:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06542; Thu, 30 May 1996 18:52:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 30 May 1996 18:50:10 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06145; Thu, 30 May 1996 18:50:08 -0400 Received: from beluga.MIT.EDU (BELUGA.MIT.EDU [18.48.0.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06131; Thu, 30 May 1996 18:50:06 -0400 Received: from localhost by beluga.MIT.EDU via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for id SAA13508; Thu, 30 May 1996 18:51:05 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 18:51:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Opinions urgently wanted on repair options Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please reply before 4:00ish on Friday the 31st. It seems IBM is tightening down on their liberal repair policies. This past week I sent my TP701C in for service for the following: Present upon return from previous repair 2 months ago: - Hairline crack on upper lid - Loose battery Caused a few weeks ago by my own stupidity: - Cracks on bottom of case - Keyboard detached in front right corner (still functions) I got a call today saying the top two were indistinguishable in cause from the bottom two. Since I hadn't reported the top two problems immediately after service, none of it would be covered under warranty. I explained I hadn't called because the computer was otherwise perfectly functional and I'd needed it for some field research I was doing at the time. I'd hoped my honesty about the keyboard and cracks would lend some credence to my insistence that the first two problems were present from the previous repair. No go. They say I now have two options: - get it all fixed for $600+, or partly fixed (about $150 ea) - don't get it fixed and get charged $170 for shipping and appraisal They gave me until Monday (5 days from when they received it) to decide what to do with it before they automatically ship it back. So what do you folks think I should do? I've seen used 701's selling on the net for ~$1200. There's also a chance I wrote about the crack and battery problem on the service satisfaction survey they send out after each repair, but I don't remember exactly what I wrote and didn't make a copy. Please reply by Friday since I don't want to risk them saying "5 days from Tuesday is Saturday" and getting socked for shipping twice. If you have any problems with your machine, don't try to save IBM money by not calling until you're ready to arrange service - report it first chance you get. Apparently having a report in their database is evidence enough (although I don't see what sort of protection this gives IBM - I could have called to say the case, battery, and keyboard came to me broken from repair but I needed to use the computer, then called again a week later saying I'd dropped it causing the cracks). The real kicker is I wasn't using my 701 Portfolio case, which might have prevented any damage from the second incident: I wanted to velcro it to the lid, but hadn't done it yet because the lid was going to be replaced when I sent it in to fix the crack... *sigh* -- John H. Kim There are only two industries that call their jokim@mit.edu customers 'users,' and one of them is illegal. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 30 18:56:09 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12547; Thu, 30 May 96 18:56:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06534; Thu, 30 May 1996 18:52:14 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 30 May 1996 18:49:00 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05936; Thu, 30 May 1996 18:48:58 -0400 Received: from mail.ucsd.edu (ucsd.edu [132.239.254.201]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05924; Thu, 30 May 1996 18:48:54 -0400 Received: from conic.UUCP by mail.ucsd.edu; id PAA18226 sendmail 8.6.12/UCSD-2.2-sun via UUCP Thu, 30 May 1996 15:48:50 -0700 for Thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <199605302248.PAA18226@ mail.ucsd.edu> Received: from engineering/tomf by conic.loral.com (PMail+UDG PegWaf v0.31 93.10.18) id 4804 for Thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 30 May 1996 15:13:55 PST 8 PDT From: TOMF@conic.loral.com (Tom Franklin Tom Franklin) To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 15:13:51 +0000 Subject: RE: 755cd ac adapter connector problem Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Organization: Loral Conic/Terracom, San Diego, CA 92123 (619) 279-0411 > Has anyone experienced such problems ? Does anyone know of a fix? I just received two TP760EL machines and they have a new power supply that is even smaller than that cheezy one my TP755CX came with. I don't know how much it costs, but it has the small molded connector with a choke a inch down on the cable. This seems better than the 2.5" thing sticking out of the back of the machine. It only accepts 120 V unlike the other one which can take 120 or 220. I tried it on my TP755CX and it works just fine. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 30 19:01:26 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12680; Thu, 30 May 96 19:01:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07591; Thu, 30 May 1996 18:58:45 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 30 May 1996 18:57:13 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07314; Thu, 30 May 1996 18:57:11 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07303; Thu, 30 May 1996 18:57:08 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uPGbp-001B7xC; Thu, 30 May 96 16:54 MDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 May 96 16:54 MDT From: "Stephen S. Hultquist" To: TOMF@conic.loral.com (Tom Franklin Tom Franklin) Cc: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: 755cd ac adapter connector problem In-Reply-To: <199605302248.PAA18226@.mail.ucsd.edu> References: <199605302248.PAA18226@.mail.ucsd.edu> Tom Franklin Tom Franklin writes: > It only accepts > 120 V unlike the other one which can take 120 or 220. I tried it > on my TP755CX and it works just fine. What?!?! I have to buy a second power supply for my ThinkPad to have it work in Europe or other 220V places? Rediculous! ssh -- Steve Hultquist Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Web, Internet, LANs, WANs, Routing, Switching, Unix, PCs, NT, 95, OS/2 Specialists in temporary and demonstration environments http://www.wwsi.com/ 303.581.0800 Boulder, Colorado, USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 30 19:25:42 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14028; Thu, 30 May 96 19:25:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10872; Thu, 30 May 1996 19:22:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 30 May 1996 19:20:52 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10575; Thu, 30 May 1996 19:20:48 -0400 Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10555; Thu, 30 May 1996 19:20:44 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA21616; Thu, 30 May 96 19:18:36 EDT Date: Thu, 30 May 96 19:18:36 EDT From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9605302318.AA21616@nile.gnat.com> To: emjay@execpc.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Diff. between 760E+ CD-ROM & 760CD? However, we were told that they could ship us a 760E immediately (though the CD-ROM upgrade would take 2 weeks to get here). do we really know that the 760E can take an internal CD ROM, I looked at one yesterday, and frankly I don't see how, there was no wide slot on the front! Actually that was the 133 MHz model, the 120MHz model *did* have a wide slot and appeared to the eye IDENTICAL in all respects to a 760CD. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 30 20:55:28 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18969; Thu, 30 May 96 20:55:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25930; Thu, 30 May 1996 20:53:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 30 May 1996 20:50:50 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25466; Thu, 30 May 1996 20:50:48 -0400 Received: from mail.ucsd.edu (ucsd.edu [132.239.254.201]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25445; Thu, 30 May 1996 20:50:45 -0400 Received: from conic.UUCP by mail.ucsd.edu; id RAA19966 sendmail 8.6.12/UCSD-2.2-sun via UUCP Thu, 30 May 1996 17:50:37 -0700 for Thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <199605310050.RAA19966@ mail.ucsd.edu> Received: from engineering/tomf by conic.loral.com (PMail+UDG PegWaf v0.31 93.10.18) id 5897 for Thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 30 May 1996 17:18:34 PST 8 PDT From: TOMF@conic.loral.com (Tom Franklin Tom Franklin) To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 17:18:29 +0000 Subject: (Fwd) Re: Diff. between 760E+ CD-ROM & 760CD? Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Organization: Loral Conic/Terracom, San Diego, CA 92123 (619) 279-0411 > However, we were told that they could ship us a 760E immediately > (though the CD-ROM upgrade would take 2 weeks to get here). > do we really know that the 760E can take an internal CD ROM, I looked at It appears from the spec sheet, that there are two different TP760E models. On one model the CD-ROM is opional, but on the other it isn't an option. Look at the tecnical specifications and the dimensions make this obvious (http://www.pc.ibm.com/thinkpad/tp760.html). From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 30 20:55:34 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18976; Thu, 30 May 96 20:55:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25932; Thu, 30 May 1996 20:53:39 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 30 May 1996 20:50:42 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25415; Thu, 30 May 1996 20:50:40 -0400 Received: from mail.ucsd.edu (ucsd.edu [132.239.254.201]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25400; Thu, 30 May 1996 20:50:37 -0400 Received: from conic.UUCP by mail.ucsd.edu; id RAA19950 sendmail 8.6.12/UCSD-2.2-sun via UUCP Thu, 30 May 1996 17:50:34 -0700 for Thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <199605310050.RAA19950@ mail.ucsd.edu> Received: from engineering/tomf by conic.loral.com (PMail+UDG PegWaf v0.31 93.10.18) id 3377 for Thinkpad@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 30 May 1996 17:10:42 PST 8 PDT From: TOMF@conic.loral.com (Tom Franklin Tom Franklin) To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 17:10:37 +0000 Subject: Re: Diff. between 760E+ CD-ROM & 760CD? Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Organization: Loral Conic/Terracom, San Diego, CA 92123 (619) 279-0411 > However, we were told that they could ship us a 760E immediately > (though the CD-ROM upgrade would take 2 weeks to get here). > do we really know that the 760E can take an internal CD ROM, I looked at I just received two TP760EL machines and they have the cut out for the CD-ROM and are thicker like the TP760CD. I suspect if I bought a CD-ROM, and plugged it in, it would work just fine. Does anyone know if this will work? From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 30 21:04:46 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19554; Thu, 30 May 96 21:04:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27168; Thu, 30 May 1996 21:01:16 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 30 May 1996 20:59:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26748; Thu, 30 May 1996 20:59:28 -0400 Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26738; Thu, 30 May 1996 20:59:25 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA22374; Thu, 30 May 96 20:57:19 EDT Date: Thu, 30 May 96 20:57:19 EDT From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9605310057.AA22374@nile.gnat.com> To: TOMF@conic.loral.com, Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: Diff. between 760E+ CD-ROM & 760CD? "It appears from the spec sheet, that there are two different TP760E models. On one model the CD-ROM is opional, but on the other it isn't an option. Look at the tecnical specifications and the dimensions make this obvious (http://www.pc.ibm.com/thinkpad/tp760.html)." As I noted in an earlier message, what I saw in a store was that the 133MHz TP760E was the one that could not take an internal CD-ROM, and the 120MHz model was the one that could take an internal CD ROM. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Thu May 30 23:32:23 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25044; Thu, 30 May 96 23:32:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23344; Thu, 30 May 1996 23:31:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Thu, 30 May 1996 23:28:08 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22791; Thu, 30 May 1996 23:28:05 -0400 Received: from rmii.com (root@rainbow.rmii.com [166.93.8.14]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA22782; Thu, 30 May 1996 23:28:01 -0400 Received: from ssh-tp.wwsi.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uPKqJ-001B8oC; Thu, 30 May 96 21:25 MDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 May 96 21:25 MDT From: "Stephen S. Hultquist" To: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Cc: emjay@execpc.com, thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Diff. between 760E+ CD-ROM & 760CD? In-Reply-To: <9605302318.AA21616@nile.gnat.com> References: <9605302318.AA21616@nile.gnat.com> Robert Dewar writes: > However, we were told that they could ship us a 760E immediately > (though the CD-ROM upgrade would take 2 weeks to get here). > > do we really know that the 760E can take an internal CD ROM, I looked at > one yesterday, and frankly I don't see how, there was no wide slot on the > front! Actually that was the 133 MHz model, the 120MHz model *did* have > a wide slot and appeared to the eye IDENTICAL in all respects to a 760CD. I *think* there are two versions of the E, one of which is "deep". The latter can be upgraded with a CD ROM later. At least, that's my understanding. Cheers, ssh -- Steve Hultquist Founder Worldwide Solutions, Inc. Web, Internet, LANs, WANs, Routing, Switching, Unix, PCs, NT, 95, OS/2 Specialists in temporary and demonstration environments http://www.wwsi.com/ 303.581.0800 Boulder, Colorado, USA From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 31 03:53:27 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03170; Fri, 31 May 96 03:53:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA01926; Fri, 31 May 1996 03:51:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 31 May 1996 03:45:17 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00482; Fri, 31 May 1996 03:45:14 -0400 Received: from husc.harvard.edu (root@husc.harvard.edu [140.247.30.45]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00453; Fri, 31 May 1996 03:45:10 -0400 Received: from scws45.HARVARD.EDU by husc.harvard.edu with ESMTP id BAA06004 Received: by scws45.HARVARD.EDU with id BAA06111 Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 01:26:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Kim To: "John H. Kim" Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Opinions urgently wanted on repair options In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi John, Thanks for all the great advice you give on this group. I really appreciate it. I empathize with your warranty situation. Your case teaches us a pretty grim lesson about warranties and insurance policies... if we leave ourselves liable in any way for their mistakes, IBM--or any company that spends tons of money on warranty service--will try to save (or even make) money by taking advantage of your liability. I can just about guarantee that you are not misrepresenting yourself with regards to the hairline crack on the top lid (plastic between display and keyboard). These were incredibly poorly designed. I had my 701 keyboard replaced recently, and the IBM certified technician cracked my top lid in the process of fixing the keyboard. It seems like you and my technician are not the only people who have cracked these things, because the parts are completely back-ordered. There is not a single top lid part in the country. My technician laid it to me straight... there is no telling when these parts will be available. So, John, when you sent your 701c in to have the top lid replaced, there is no way that they could have replaced it.... There are none around to replace it with! I imagine that IBM did what my repair man had to do. He had to glue the crack so that it was still functional, since there is no telling when it will be in stock. IBM is not being fair with you. Maybe you should ask them to explain themselves. Why did they send back a computer under the guise of being repaired, which had not, in fact, been fully repaired? Sounds illegal to me. If I were you, if IBM is going to be dishonest when you are being commendably honest, I'd have IBM send it back to you. Then, take it to a local computer store (MicroCenter?) or a school tech repair service, and they will probably fix the problems and send the bill to IBM without asking. If they do ask, just explain that the problems came about under normal wear and tear, and should be covered. Let me know how this all turns out for you. Sorry to hear about the dilemna. I think it is better to see if you can get this repair resolved rather than try to frantically find another 701. They are very very hard to come by. I recently sold mine, and got way too many offers because there are none around. Yours, Daniel On Thu, 30 May 1996, John H. Kim wrote: > Please reply before 4:00ish on Friday the 31st. It seems IBM is > tightening down on their liberal repair policies. This past week I > sent my TP701C in for service for the following: > > Present upon return from previous repair 2 months ago: > - Hairline crack on upper lid > - Loose battery > Caused a few weeks ago by my own stupidity: > - Cracks on bottom of case > - Keyboard detached in front right corner (still functions) > > I got a call today saying the top two were indistinguishable in cause > from the bottom two. Since I hadn't reported the top two problems > immediately after service, none of it would be covered under warranty. > I explained I hadn't called because the computer was otherwise perfectly > functional and I'd needed it for some field research I was doing at the > time. I'd hoped my honesty about the keyboard and cracks would lend > some credence to my insistence that the first two problems were present > from the previous repair. No go. > > They say I now have two options: > - get it all fixed for $600+, or partly fixed (about $150 ea) > - don't get it fixed and get charged $170 for shipping and appraisal > > They gave me until Monday (5 days from when they received it) to decide > what to do with it before they automatically ship it back. > > So what do you folks think I should do? I've seen used 701's selling > on the net for ~$1200. There's also a chance I wrote about the crack > and battery problem on the service satisfaction survey they send out > after each repair, but I don't remember exactly what I wrote and didn't > make a copy. Please reply by Friday since I don't want to risk them > saying "5 days from Tuesday is Saturday" and getting socked for shipping > twice. > > If you have any problems with your machine, don't try to save IBM > money by not calling until you're ready to arrange service - report it > first chance you get. Apparently having a report in their database is > evidence enough (although I don't see what sort of protection this > gives IBM - I could have called to say the case, battery, and keyboard > came to me broken from repair but I needed to use the computer, then > called again a week later saying I'd dropped it causing the cracks). > > The real kicker is I wasn't using my 701 Portfolio case, which might > have prevented any damage from the second incident: I wanted to velcro > it to the lid, but hadn't done it yet because the lid was going to be > replaced when I sent it in to fix the crack... *sigh* > -- > John H. Kim There are only two industries that call their > jokim@mit.edu customers 'users,' and one of them is illegal. > From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 31 03:55:15 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03184; Fri, 31 May 96 03:55:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02265; Fri, 31 May 1996 03:54:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 31 May 1996 03:52:53 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02057; Fri, 31 May 1996 03:52:51 -0400 Received: from deneb.dfn.de (deneb.dfn.de [192.76.176.9]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02043; Fri, 31 May 1996 03:52:44 -0400 Received: from unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (rzgw.rz.fh-hannover.de) by deneb.dfn.de (4.1/SMI-4.2) id AA14899; Fri, 31 May 96 09:51:28 +0200 Received: from bidnix.bid.fh-hannover.de by unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA28557; Fri, 31 May 1996 09:50:56 +0200 Received: from localhost by bidnix.bid.fh-hannover.de with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uPOvL-0005MAC; Fri, 31 May 96 09:47 MET DST Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 09:47:07 +0200 (MET DST) From: Hanno Wagner To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: CD-ROM has no long filenames? In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19960531043104.00665d40@gauss.elee.calpoly.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, On Thu, 30 May 1996, Michael Fukatsu wrote: > get truncated filenames to the usual DOS 8-3 format. This can't be the way Hi, the CD-ROM filesystem usually used (I have normal DOS and Linux) is iso9960. This standard describes filenames only in 8.3-format. So it goes.. Ciao, Hanno -- Hanno Wagner, Member of the ISTF Member of the HTML Writers Guild pgp-fingerprint: 7D C1 01 72 75 22 01 4F 6F 08 06 49 1B 02 4A A6 "Whip me. Beat me. Make me maintain AIX." (By Stephan Zielinski) From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 31 06:51:16 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09686; Fri, 31 May 96 06:51:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04645; Fri, 31 May 1996 06:50:19 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 31 May 1996 06:47:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04254; Fri, 31 May 1996 06:47:48 -0400 Received: from nile.gnat.com (NILE.GNAT.COM [205.232.38.5]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04243; Fri, 31 May 1996 06:47:44 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA10298; Fri, 31 May 96 06:44:02 EDT Date: Fri, 31 May 96 06:44:02 EDT From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9605311044.AA10298@nile.gnat.com> To: dpkim@husc.harvard.edu, jokim@mit.edu Subject: Re: Opinions urgently wanted on repair options Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu "I think it is better to see if you can get this repair resolved rather than try to frantically find another 701. They are very very hard to come by. I recently sold mine, and got way too many offers because there are none around." That's wrong, there are still loads of 701's around, easlily available. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 31 08:21:58 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14067; Fri, 31 May 96 08:21:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17425; Fri, 31 May 1996 08:20:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 31 May 1996 08:18:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17038; Fri, 31 May 1996 08:18:35 -0400 Received: from jumbo.read.tasc.com (jumbo.read.tasc.com [147.81.244.117]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17030; Fri, 31 May 1996 08:18:33 -0400 Received: by jumbo.read.tasc.com (5.x/PRAT[SECURE-2.8]) id AA20729; Fri, 31 May 1996 08:18:24 -0400 Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 08:18:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Shemo To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: 760CD Windows and network card woes In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a 760CD which I have set up for multi-boot with win95 and 3.1. Overall I am pleased with the performance of this machine until I put in the PCMCIA network card. When I am in win3.1, as long as I have the AC connected all is fine, but when I go on battery power I get a frozen pointer and the machine hangs. I can resume by hooking up the AC and removing the PCMCIA network card and re-seating it. This isn't a problem because I usually have the AC on when I'm on the network. My main problem is when I'm running win95. Even when I am on AC, I get the same frozen pointer and I can resume by re-seating the network card (I lose any connections I may have had!), but after I do this I will be able to work for a short time and have to go through it all over again. It seems to happen more often when I am charging a battery rather than having a 100% battery in the machine. I have upgraded every driver and the BIOS to the latest ones and am still having problems. I hope that someone out there can help. I really don't like regretting the purchase of this machine. Thanks, Bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert E. Shemo TASC reshemo@tasc.com 55 Walkers Brook Dr. Voice: (617)942-2000 x3405 Reading, MA 01867 Fax: (617)942-7100 He may ride forever 'neath the streets of Boston, He's the man who never returned. -- "The MTA Song" by The Kingston Trio ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 31 09:54:04 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18756; Fri, 31 May 96 09:54:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01803; Fri, 31 May 1996 09:52:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 31 May 1996 09:48:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01208; Fri, 31 May 1996 09:48:21 -0400 Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.37]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA01195; Fri, 31 May 1996 09:48:17 -0400 Received: from tty2-13.tc.nd.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id JAA21255; Fri, 31 May 1996 09:48:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605311348.JAA21255@judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: "Gabriel Ash" To: "Thinkpad User Group" Date: Fri, 31 May 96 08:48:30 Reply-To: "Gabriel Ash" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Gabriel Ash's Registered PMMail 1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Opinions urgently wanted on repair options On Fri, 31 May 96 08:45:59, Gabriel Ash wrote: >On Fri, 31 May 1996 01:26:44 -0400 (EDT), Daniel Kim wrote: >>On Thu, 30 May 1996, John H. Kim wrote: >> >>> Please reply before 4:00ish on Friday the 31st. It seems IBM is >>> tightening down on their liberal repair policies. This past week I >>> sent my TP701C in for service for the following: > >I cannot really give much helpful advice because I have no relevant experience. >But I would like first to thank you for sharing this important information with the >group. Second, I would like to ask you to post this information also in the relevant >newsgroups. In my decision to buy IBM, people's warm recommendations regarding >IBM warranty services, posted on these groups, and lack of posting that retold horror >stories, was a major factor. In the near future I will let IBM know that the chances >my next machine will be IBM are negatively proportionned to the presence of stories >such as yours on the Internet. I guess I will not be the only one, so maybe IBM will >rethink its strategies, and if not, some other computer producer will get the idea that >the rule have changed, buyers can today exchange information easily. > > >------------- >Gabriel Ash >Notre-Dame >------------- > > ------------- Gabriel Ash Notre-Dame ------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 31 10:58:46 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21187; Fri, 31 May 96 10:58:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12982; Fri, 31 May 1996 10:56:37 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 31 May 1996 10:53:41 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12459; Fri, 31 May 1996 10:53:38 -0400 Received: from bbs.sd68.nanaimo.bc.ca (bbs.sd68.nanaimo.bc.ca [134.87.44.191]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12449; Fri, 31 May 1996 10:53:36 -0400 Received: by bbs.sd68.nanaimo.bc.ca (MX V4.1 AXP) id 22; Fri, 31 May 1996 07:54:41 PST Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 07:54:41 PST From: Jonathan Berry To: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Cc: jberry@bbs.sd68.nanaimo.bc.ca Message-Id: <009A324E.E3042CC1.22@bbs.sd68.nanaimo.bc.ca> Subject: Hello from jb I've been lurking for a while. Hello, I have one, lonesome, 701C. I recently purchased a second 720 MB hard drive for $265 through a tip on this list. As I understand, the normal price on these little gems is > $1 per MB, so this was a great barg. And it is an IBM original part. However, it came without a "caddy", a plastic thingie attached by (unusual to me) screws around the edge of the hard drive, and which holds in place a short ribbon connector. With the caddy, the hard drive is held in place via the electrical connectors at the base of its slot. I can *imagine* that an ordinary human *could* make a caddy (maybe out of wood ?????), but the tolerances would (er, wood) be pretty fine. I'd much rather pay for one. Appeals for this item have been made here, but I haven't noticed any solutions. If I can't get a caddy, is there a standard part number for the ribbon cable? My current 720 MB hd runs OS/2, Win 3.1, DOS and is almost full. The new hd would run Windows 95, as the "real world" demands that I do. Switching hds involves removing the battery, but I think I could get it down to about a minute, probably less than the time it takes for Win95 to boot! And for longevity of the connectors, I'd have to tailor my work habits so I wouldn't have to do this more than, say, twice a week. Many have asked why did IBM discontinue the (insert your favourite thinkpad number here) 701? Especially when they didn't have a replacement. 1. One semi-official answer was that they couldn't engineer a Pentium into it with sufficient heat-dissipation capacity. Here are my guesses: 2. This is IBM. Enough said. 3. Based upon early sales figures, some senior exec tailored their production run so that they would have "just enough" units to last them until the new lines were available (an analogy to "just in time" inventory and parts order). However, some different senior exec saw that these sales were rather low, and last fall ordered a sale to meet the market. So you could buy an IBM at the same price as a no-name brand. Sales went through the roof. In IBM it is "business as usual" that the left hand knoweth not what the right hand doeth. 4. There is a high and repeat return rate due to a clunky internal modem. 5. To meet the market price on 486 laptops and provide its normal (high, but see John Kim's recent post here "Opinions urgently wanted on repair options" ) level of service, IBM would not make any money. So it has to concentrate on high-end machines which command a 2x to 3x premium in the market, for whom price is not a major object. It's really too bad, because the 701, with some minor fixes, could have been a "standard" in laptops. Let's see, fix the modem, keep the BIOS up to date, fix the keyboard (I'm not talking about the "butterfly" mechanism--that works wonderfully--you have to bang away at the keys to be sure they will register; the travel is also not quite full, despite what they say. However, I recently tried the keyboard on the fancy new 760E, and it is even worse!), and you have an ideal travelling companion which runs the standard app (word processing) really well, and the "power" apps fast enough, considering how often they are used. Really nice features of the 701 include: screen, setup menu (isn't one on 760 !), power conservation / suspend, size, weight, (international) AC adaptor arrangement, external 3.5 diskette (YMMV), general feeling of being "right sized". Jonathan Berry From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 31 11:16:58 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22020; Fri, 31 May 96 11:16:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16237; Fri, 31 May 1996 11:14:30 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 31 May 1996 11:12:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15861; Fri, 31 May 1996 11:12:45 -0400 Received: from tin (tin.monsanto.com [137.35.4.90]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15830; Fri, 31 May 1996 11:12:37 -0400 Received: from WOODS.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by tin (5.65/Monsanto1.10) id AA22925; Fri, 31 May 1996 09:59:36 -0500 Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 09:59:36 -0500 Message-Id: <9605311459.AA22925@tin> From: snmauf@elm.monsanto.com (Simon Maufe, Monsanto CROP IT, V2K, 4-3207) To: TIN"thinkpad@cs.utk.edu"@cs.utk.edu Subject: re: Hello from jb (thinkpad keyboard and touch typing) >>keep the BIOS up to date, fix the keyboard (I'm not talking about the >>"butterfly" mechanism--that works wonderfully--you have to bang away a>>t the keys to be sure they will register; the travel is also not >>quite full, despite what they say. However, I recently tried the >>keyboard on the fancy new 760E, and it is even worse!), and you have a word on the thinkpad keyboard. I changed from a 360CSE to my present 755CSE, and the new keyboard was the pits. I had to push hard enough, and vertically down, that I couldn't touch type. I had IBM come in and replace it, the new one is wonderful! When I was doing all this with the service people, they told me that there are two versions of the keyboard, touch type and normal. I suspect mine came as 'normal', and they installed a touch type version. Horror story on the dual scan screens : I'm on my third, the bottom half of the screen goes yellow and you're stuffed. Takes an average of a month to get a new part. I figured out in the end how to call Boulder CO, make enough waves, and get the priority bumped to the highest level. A few months ago they were getting a half dozen a week arriving. Buy IBM : Not next time. They switch the models too fast, you wait tmonths for your PC, and the warranty service is awful. The software telephone support only knows how to tell you it's not an IBM problem. Simon ///************************************************************************** // /// Simon Maufe ||| MAUFE@TWEETY.DIGSYS.COM // /// Daugherty Systems ||| 314-432-8200 office // /// St Louis ||| 314-257-8018 home // /// ||| 314-694-3207 client office // /// All opinions and thoughts are mine and not those of my employer or client / /// Use anything in here at your own risk \\\ \\\************************************************************************** \\ From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 31 12:41:20 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25179; Fri, 31 May 96 12:41:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00798; Fri, 31 May 1996 12:39:48 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 31 May 1996 12:36:18 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00264; Fri, 31 May 1996 12:36:16 -0400 Received: from mail.execpc.com (mail.execpc.com [169.207.16.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00225; Fri, 31 May 1996 12:36:07 -0400 Received: from watchdog.execpc.com (watchdog.execpc.com [169.207.8.130]) by mail.execpc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA22223; Fri, 31 May 1996 11:35:53 -0500 (CDT) From: emjay@execpc.com (Tom Kustner) To: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Cc: thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Diff. between 760E+ CD-ROM & 760CD? Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 16:39:09 GMT Organization: Emjay Corporation Message-Id: <31af1f3e.3911703@mailgate.execpc.com> References: <9605302318.AA21616@nile.gnat.com> In-Reply-To: <9605302318.AA21616@nile.gnat.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/16.227 On Thu, 30 May 96 19:18:36 EDT, you wrote: >However, we were told that they could ship us a 760E immediately >(though the CD-ROM upgrade would take 2 weeks to get here). > >do we really know that the 760E can take an internal CD ROM, I looked at >one yesterday, and frankly I don't see how, there was no wide slot on the >front! Actually that was the 133 MHz model, the 120MHz model *did* have >a wide slot and appeared to the eye IDENTICAL in all respects to a 760CD. > Ahhh! This would make sense, since we were told the model we were getting would be the 120 mhz model, even though their WWW site only mentions 133 mhz models (I was confused on that point). Having said that, here are the main differences as enumerated by a very helpful person on their information line: The 760CD is VESA/120mhz/1MB video ram standard/8MB RAM standard. The 760ED is PCI/133 mhz/2MB video ram standard/16MB RAM standard. But wait, I asked you about the 760E, right? So what's the difference between a 760E (with the CD-ROM) and a 760ED? The difference is... ...the 760ED can do MPEG, has the video in/out jacks (presumably NTSC-to-TV), etc. Nuts! That's why we wanted the 760CD! Looks like it might be time to go to the back of the line...since they're not making 760CDs anymore. They may still be in stock at various places, but they're not making them anymore (making 760EDs instead). Thanks to you all for your help, especially about the "deep" version. Regards, Tom Kustner ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Kustner Emjay Corporation System/LAN Administrator 725 W. Glendale Ave. Email: emjay@execpc.com Glendale, WI 53209-6509 USA Any opinions are mine and not necessarily those of Emjay's. From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 31 16:05:19 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03511; Fri, 31 May 96 16:05:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28496; Fri, 31 May 1996 16:03:01 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 31 May 1996 15:57:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27856; Fri, 31 May 1996 15:57:47 -0400 Received: from ctpsun.ciw.edu (ctpsun.ciw.edu [192.70.249.155]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27850; Fri, 31 May 1996 15:57:43 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.38] (mac38.ciw.edu [192.70.249.38]) by ctpsun.ciw.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA12426 for ; Fri, 31 May 1996 15:57:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605311957.PAA12426@ctpsun.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 15:57:53 -0400 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Thinkpad service: a counter example Just to add another data point to whether IBM support is getting worse or not, My 2.8 year old 750 mono had a massive seizure on Monday. After some waiting on hold, I got through to Easyserve that day. They offered to send a box, but because Monday was a Fedex holiday, I decided to box it myself. I sent it to Memphis on Tuesday morning, it presumably got there on Wednesday, and sent it back to me with a new system board, clean screen and keyboard, and new trackpoint rubber on Thursday. It arrived today. Still warranteed after all these years. I'm pretty satisfied. The service is pretty similar to what I got when the LCD "went south" two years ago. Just another data point. ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 web page: http://granite.ciw.edu/~kress --------------------------- From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 31 16:19:51 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04945; Fri, 31 May 96 16:19:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00382; Fri, 31 May 1996 16:17:49 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 31 May 1996 16:16:07 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29978; Fri, 31 May 1996 16:16:04 -0400 Received: from shrsys.hslc.org (SHRSYS.HSLC.ORG [192.100.94.3]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29966; Fri, 31 May 1996 16:16:02 -0400 Received: from SHRSYS.HSLC.ORG by SHRSYS.HSLC.ORG (PMDF V5.0-6 #15479) id <01I5D0XD77W08X61O1@SHRSYS.HSLC.ORG> for THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU; Fri, 31 May 1996 16:12:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 16:12:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Dennis J. Gormley" Subject: Re: Thinkpad service: a counter example To: THINKPAD@cs.utk.edu Reply-To: GORMLEY@SHRSYS.HSLC.ORG Message-Id: <01I5D0XD78TU8X61O1@SHRSYS.HSLC.ORG> X-Vms-To: THINKPAD@CS.UTK.EDU X-Vms-Cc: GORMLEY Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I usually despise "me, too" responses, but I have to relate my latest experience with EasyServ. Sure, it took 20-30 minutes to get through to the right person, run through a couple of troubleshooting steps I wasn't aware of (who put that reset button on the back of my 755CEs?!) and have them give me an RMA. But after I got it and got the box packed, it was picked up the next day (Friday) AND RETURNED ON MONDAY!!! I thought 2-4 days meant 2-4 _working_ days. When our receptionist told me the ThinkPad was back, I thought she was pulling my leg! Just my 2 bytes. \ Dennis J. Gormley Tel: (215) 222-1532 \\ Operations Manager Fax: (215) 222-0416 \\\\ Health Sciences Libraries Consortium Int: gormley@hslc.org \\\\\\ 3600 Market Street, Suite 550 H S L C Philadelphia, PA 19104-2646 From owner-thinkpad@cs.utk.edu Fri May 31 16:40:50 1996 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06372; Fri, 31 May 96 16:40:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02729; Fri, 31 May 1996 16:38:15 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.6); Fri, 31 May 1996 16:36:43 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02499; Fri, 31 May 1996 16:36:41 -0400 Received: from cae.wisc.edu (serv0.cae.wisc.edu [144.92.240.11]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02491; Fri, 31 May 1996 16:36:37 -0400 Received: from hobie.engr.wisc.edu (hobie.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.58]) by cae.wisc.edu (CAE sendmail 1.1/CAE1.1) with SMTP id PAA28359 for ; Fri, 31 May 1996 15:36:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199605312036.PAA28359@cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: redmond@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 15:36:27 -0500 To: Thinkpad@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Redmond Subject: Internal CD drive options for 755CD Can I get a 4X CD drive that will plug into the internal "smartbay" of my ThinkPad 755CD? Does the 760CD drive have the same interface and form factor? When I look at pictures of the Micron, it looks like the front bezel is at least similar to the one on the 755CD. Does anyone have a Micron and a 755CD...do the drives swap? I assume the Micron option would be the cheapest. Thanks Mike Redmond Director, CAE UW-Madison