From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 00:20:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18412; Wed, 1 Nov 95 00:20:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05417; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 00:19:13 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 00:16:24 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA04942; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 00:16:21 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra-scf2.usc.edu [128.125.73.232]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id VAA13628 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 21:16:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id VAA05731 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 21:16:16 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511010516.VAA05731@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: TP 750C Price/Value? To: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 21:16:13 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know that there was anything really said, but I recall one person asking what his TP 750C was worth. Anyone care to hazard some estimates? Just thinking of selling as a 701 might serve my purposes better (and lighten my load!). ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 00:20:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18418; Wed, 1 Nov 95 00:20:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05437; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 00:19:23 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 00:18:43 -0500 Received: from kalypso.cybercom.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05323; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 00:18:34 -0500 Received: (from dchan@localhost) by kalypso.cybercom.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA29737 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 00:18:20 -0500 From: "Derek V. Chan" Message-Id: <199511010518.AAA29737@kalypso.cybercom.net> Subject: RFD: comp.sys.laptops.ibm-thinkpad (submitted) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 00:18:20 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Below is the text of the message which was submitted... === REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) unmoderated group comp.sys.laptop.ibm-thinkpad This is a formal Request for Discussion for the creation of the unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.sys.laptop.ibm-thinkpad This is not a Call for Votes - do not vote now. To participate in the discussion follow the topic on news.groups. Please do not discuss the group creation in other groups - it will most probably be off topic there. Newsgroup line: comp.sys.laptop.ibm-thinkpad Discussion about IBM Thinkpads RATIONALE: comp.sys.laptop.ibm-thinkpad In the past years, the IBM Thinkpad, the notebook line of IBM's computers, has emerged as a market leader. As such, many people now work with and/or own IBM Thinkpads. Previous discussion relating to IBM Thinkpads has been discussed on various mailing lists for each of the separate model categories. In addition, much discussion has been carried out by people on comp.sys.laptops. The purpose of this group is to focus the discussion for any Thinkpad-related issues, regardless of the model type. Often, questions asked on comp.sys.laptops have been answered in mailing lists. In addition, the mailing list volumes have become quite large. The addition of a newsgroup would also help relieve some of the same questions asked on the different mailing lists. CHARTER: comp.sys.laptop.ibm-thinkpad comp.sys.laptop.ibm-thinkpad is an unmoderated newsgroup for the discussion of all subjects related to the IBM Thinkpad. Possible Topics include: IBM Thinkpad Models IBM Thinkpad Peripherals Third Party Peripherals Operating Systems on the IBM Thinkpad (e.g. Win 95, DOS, Linux, etc.) Where to (and NOT to) Buy Technical Specifications Troubleshooting software/hardware with IBM Thinkpads Topics unrelated to IBM Thinkpads should not be posted to this group. Commercial announcement and forsale notices should not be posted to this group; however a short note might be posted if there is a new product that is of _general_ interest to Thinkpad owners. END CHARTER. PROCEDURE: This RFD initiates a discussion period of at least 21 days. If a consensus on the charter and the name of the group is reached, a Call for Votes (CFV) for the group will be issued. Exact voting conditions will be outlined in the CFV, the vote will be conducted by a neutral third party. The voting period will last from 21 to 31 days, and the group will pass if the YES votes outnumber the NO votes by at least 100 votes and if at least 2/3rds of the votes are in favor of the new group. Detailed information about the procedure may be found in the article "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" in news.announce.newusers. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD is cross-posted to the following Usenet newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.sys.laptops, comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems, comp.sys.mac.portables, comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc -- Derek V. Chan chan4@fas.harvard.edu dchan@cybercom.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 01:14:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21402; Wed, 1 Nov 95 01:14:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08426; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 01:12:01 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 01:10:12 -0500 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08200; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 01:10:10 -0500 Received: from Thinkpad (ts32-3.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.21.192]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA30782 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 22:10:07 -0800 Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 22:10:07 -0800 Message-Id: <199511010610.WAA30782@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> X-Sender: dpark@pop.ben2.ucla.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Dennis Park Subject: 760CD educational price Does anyone know the educational price of a Thinkpad 760cd? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 01:14:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21407; Wed, 1 Nov 95 01:14:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08428; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 01:12:01 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 01:09:33 -0500 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA08128; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 01:09:30 -0500 Received: from Thinkpad (ts32-3.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.21.192]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA70062 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 22:09:21 -0800 Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 22:09:21 -0800 Message-Id: <199511010609.WAA70062@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> X-Sender: dpark@pop.ben2.ucla.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Dennis Park Subject: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? Does the 701c/cs have a DSP chip? I noticed that it does have the sound and modem capabilities of the 755ce/cd/cx series, but cannot use the same Mwave drivers. If it doesn't have a DSP chip, what hardware does it have to allow for sound and modem functions? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 04:17:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03483; Wed, 1 Nov 95 04:17:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20180; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 04:15:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 04:13:39 -0500 Received: from chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA19892; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 04:13:36 -0500 Received: (from steverod@localhost) by chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA25899; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 01:13:22 -0800 From: Steve Rodrigues Message-Id: <199511010913.BAA25899@chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? To: dpark@ucla.edu (Dennis Park) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 01:13:13 -0800 (PST) Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199511010609.WAA70062@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> from "Dennis Park" at Oct 31, 95 10:09:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Does the 701c/cs have a DSP chip? I noticed that it does have the sound and > modem capabilities of the 755ce/cd/cx series, but cannot use the same Mwave > drivers. If it doesn't have a DSP chip, what hardware does it have to allow > for sound and modem functions? Yes, and no. Apparently, it does use a DSP (which one, they don't say) for modem and telephony functions - it can also act as an answering machine, a speakerphone, etc. (although buying it as such may be kind of silly :) I've heard, by net.rumor, that the modem cannot be upgraded to 28.8. The sound functionality appears to be the ESS688 and/or 488 chip(s) - I guess the Ensoniq Soundscape??? It is NOT provided by the Mwave. IBM's documentation is, as usual, very good at not telling you any technical specifics - it sounds like FM synthesis. No word in the docs on the proper way to enable the SB Pro support for DOS apps. Setting the BLASTER environment variable seems to be hit-or-miss. It would have been cool to have Mwave sound and upgradable modem capability - but I guess that's the next generation (and why IBM is dumping 701's like mad). Steve -- Steve Rodrigues | Lost, yesterday, somewhere between sunrise and Expatriate Texan | sunset, two golden hours, each set with sixty UC Berkeley, Dept. of EECS | diamond minutes. No reward is offered, for they steverod@cs.berkeley.edu | are gone forever. -- Horace Mann From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 10:28:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28792; Wed, 1 Nov 95 10:28:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23328; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:25:36 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:22:05 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22870; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:22:02 -0500 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA07692; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:23:01 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:23:00 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: TP750 Subject: FW: For Sale: IBM ThinkPad Port Replicators (NEW/UNUSED) (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This was forwarded to me by one of my co-workers and I thought all of you would appreciate knowing about it. I'm buying two of the things - one for home and one for the office - and have already exchanged messages with him. His terms are UPS COD cash only. Last I looked, UPS COD was $7. Still a damn sight cheaper than the $109 IBM wants. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- ---------------Original Message--------------- rkondilas@mcimail.com (Robert A. Kondilas) writes: >I have recently acquired a few IBM ThinkPad port replicators for the >following model series: > >TP355 >TP360 >TP750 >TP755 >TP760 > >They are great when you want to avoid the hassle of >detaching/reattaching your external peripherals such as a mouse, >keyboard, video, and printer EVERY time you get up to leave or sit >down to work. > >These are an excellent and economic alternative to those who do not >want to purchase a docking station. > >IBM sells them for $109...I am trying to sell mine for $35. > >Please email me at: rkondilas@mcimail.com > >Robert > ----------End of Original Message---------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 10:28:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28797; Wed, 1 Nov 95 10:28:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23475; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:26:36 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:25:18 -0500 Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23251; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:25:14 -0500 Received: from oasis.vpia.uconn.edu by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 01 Nov 95 10:23:47 EST Received: from OASIS/MERCURYQ by oasis.vpia.uconn.edu (Mercury 1.21); 1 Nov 95 11:28:23 EST Received: from MERCURYQ by OASIS (Mercury 1.21); 1 Nov 95 11:28:12 EST From: "Guy Farrell" Organization: The UConn Foundation, Inc. To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:28:05 EST Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-Id: > From: Steve Rodrigues > > It would have been cool to have Mwave sound and upgradable modem capability - > but I guess that's the next generation (and why IBM is dumping 701's like mad). > I'm looking at changing dept standard to the 701 but I wish there were a P75 or better processor. Does anyone know, or heard rumors, of future 701 configurations and a timeframe on release? Guy Guy W. Farrell Vox: (860)486-0964 my desk Network Coordinator, Postmaster (860)486-5000 front desk The UConn Foundation, Inc. (800)269-9965 toll-free U-Box 206 Fax: (860)486-1615 Storrs, CT 06269-4190 E-mail: gfarrell@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu Computer Support for Institutional Advancement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 10:47:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00058; Wed, 1 Nov 95 10:47:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25213; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:45:03 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:44:00 -0500 Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25076; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:43:55 -0500 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA09791 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 09:43:50 -0600 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 09:43:50 -0600 Message-Id: <199511011543.JAA09791@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? At 01:13 AM 11/1/95 -0800, you wrote: >> Does the 701c/cs have a DSP chip? I noticed that it does have the sound and >> modem capabilities of the 755ce/cd/cx series, but cannot use the same Mwave >> drivers. If it doesn't have a DSP chip, what hardware does it have to allow >> for sound and modem functions? > >Yes, and no. >Apparently, it does use a DSP (which one, they don't say) for modem and >telephony functions - it can also act as an answering machine, a speakerphone, >etc. (although buying it as such may be kind of silly :) I've heard, by >net.rumor, that the modem cannot be upgraded to 28.8. > I have also heard that the modem is not upgradeable to 28.8. I have also heard that the DSP is manufactured by Yamaha. It is completely different from IBM's MWave. > >It would have been cool to have Mwave sound and upgradable modem capability - >but I guess that's the next generation (and why IBM is dumping 701's like mad). > again, net.rumor says that they did not have enough room in the 701 to stick in the MWave, which is quite a bit larger than the Yamaha chip. perhaps as the 701-series starts to use newer/smaller chipsets and/or lithium polymer technology, there will be enough room for an MWave.... i use a 755CE, and i definitely love the MWave! if only there were 32bit drivers for the MWave for, say, Windows NT..... (the 16bit drivers do work fine in Win95, however) ,Todd --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 10:56:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00270; Wed, 1 Nov 95 10:56:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26235; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:54:38 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:54:00 -0500 Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26122; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:53:54 -0500 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA09907 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 09:53:50 -0600 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 09:53:50 -0600 Message-Id: <199511011553.JAA09907@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: anyone use "MWGAMES ON SAMPLES" command? with the MWave 2.0 software, the "MWGAMES" msdos command has been enhanced. the options are now: "MWGAMES ON" loads emulation code "MWGAMES ON PRO" loads SB-Pro I emulation code "MWGAMES ON PROQ" loads SB-Pro I emulation code w/QSound "MWGAMES ON PRO+" loads SB-Pro I emulation code w/Effects "MWGAMES ON MIN" loads emulation code w/o record "MWGAMES ON CD" loads emulation code w/line-in to CD-DAC "MWGAMES ON SAMPLES" loads SB-Pro I emulation code with sampled sound MIDI "MWGAMES OFF" unloads emulation code two problems: 1) has anyone successfully used the "MWGAMES ON SAMPLES" command??? it does not work for me. i would be _great_ to play DOOM, etc, with sampled MIDI sounds for the music! does this work for anyone else? 2) while I'm at it, "MWGAMES ON PRO" does work for me. however, doesn't the SB Pro support stereo? i though stereo was one of the big upgrades from the SB to the SB Pro. when i use "MWGAMES ON PRO" i can select SB Pro in Decent, for example, but the sounds are still definitely mono. anyone else play around with this? THANKS! --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 11:34:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04338; Wed, 1 Nov 95 11:34:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29666; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:33:53 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:26:44 -0500 Received: from doblegate.doble.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29069; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:26:30 -0500 From: Received: from ccMail by doblegate.doble.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 097acf50; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:23:01 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:22:11 -0500 Message-Id: <097acf50@doblegate.doble.com> To: "Derek V. Chan" , Paulo Magalhaes Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re[2]: NO newsgroup Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.815246581" This is a Mime message, which your current mail reader may not understand. Parts of the message will appear as text. To process the rest, you will have to use a Mime compatible mail reader. Contact your vendor for details. --IMA.Boundary.815246581 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Received: from [128.169.94.1] by doblegate.doble.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 0966a990; Tue, 31 Oct 95 13:27:38 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09619; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:26:54 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:26:44 -0500 Received: from konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09578; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:26:40 -0500 Received: by konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu id AA23274 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:26:22 -0500 Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:26:19 -0500 (EST) From: Paulo Magalhaes X-Sender: pm119@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu To: "Derek V. Chan" Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: NO newsgroup In-Reply-To: <199510311623.LAA00304@kalypso.cybercom.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII --IMA.Boundary.815246581 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Could it be that they have better newsgroup readers than mail readers?? There is a reason why nn and the other programs have those features. It is needed due to the noise. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: NO newsgroup Author: Paulo Magalhaes at Doble-Internet Date: 10/31/95 12:26 PM On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, Derek V. Chan wrote: What's the obsession with newsgroups anyway?!?! -- Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu --IMA.Boundary.815246581-- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 11:41:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05404; Wed, 1 Nov 95 11:41:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00637; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:40:58 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:39:08 -0500 Received: from njitgw.njit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00339; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:38:59 -0500 Received: from njit.edu (homer-gw.njit.edu [128.235.1.199]) by njitgw.njit.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA20446 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:38:48 -0500 Received: from random.njit.edu by njit.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA00437; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:35:40 -0500 Received: by random.njit.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA20559; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:41:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:41:24 -0500 From: marvin@homer.njit.edu (Marvin Nakayama) Message-Id: <9511011641.AA20559@random.njit.edu> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 760CD educational price X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 01:11 EST 1995 > Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 22:10:07 -0800 > X-Sender: dpark@pop.ben2.ucla.edu > Mime-Version: 1.0 > To: tp750@cs.utk.edu > From: Dennis Park > Subject: 760CD educational price > > Does anyone know the educational price of a Thinkpad 760cd? > I called IBM PC Direct a few weeks ago about this model and was told the educational price was $7129 for 8MB/1.2GB. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 13:45:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14052; Wed, 1 Nov 95 13:45:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11728; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 13:41:37 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 13:37:53 -0500 Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11228; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 13:37:44 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id NAA27232; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 13:37:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199511011837.NAA27232@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: ecottrell@doble.com Cc: "Derek V. Chan" , Paulo Magalhaes , tp750@cs.utk.edu, moore@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Re[2]: NO newsgroup In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 01 Nov 1995 11:22:11 EST." <097acf50@doblegate.doble.com> Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 13:37:29 -0500 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu This is the reason that's usually cited. I think it's a shame that better mail readers aren't widely available. Keith From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 14:11:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16304; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:11:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13847; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:09:50 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:08:57 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13749; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:08:54 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra-scf2.usc.edu [128.125.73.232]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA20872; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:08:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id LAA07745; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:08:49 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511011908.LAA07745@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 760CD educational price To: dpark@ucla.edu (Dennis Park) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:08:48 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <199511010610.WAA30782@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> from "Dennis Park" at Oct 31, 95 10:10:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Does anyone know the educational price of a Thinkpad 760cd? Don't know the particulars, but typically IBM educational prices aren't anything to get too happy about--about 10% off of list. The same deal (or better) can be had through most any discounter. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 15:03:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19589; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:03:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18397; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:55:18 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:53:09 -0500 Received: from mcmail.vanderbilt.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18146; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:53:05 -0500 From: Received: from in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu by mcmail.vanderbilt.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA15769; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 13:54:34 -0600 Received: from ccMail by in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA815262019; Wed, 01 Nov 95 13:50:36 CST Date: Wed, 01 Nov 95 13:50:36 CST Message-Id: <9510018152.AA815262019@in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: My TP 701 is on the way ! I finally made the call, I ordered a TP-701C DX2-50 540 Meg HD, and the 16 Meg mem card. I is on its way from PC-Mall. While I am here writing, I like the idea of a news group in addition to the mail list, thought I would preffer a digest of this mail list over any thing else. Lastly, I am considering getting a Zip Drive, and I would like any comments about pcmcia Scsi interfaces, and or pcmcia CDROMs that are scsi. I will eventually want a CDROM for my TP, and it would be nice to have the scsi interface work for both. I am also interested in anyone who might be using a Zip Drive now. Kevan P.Riley Vanderbilt Univ. Medical Center BioMedical Computing Support kevan.riley@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 15:13:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20145; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:13:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20183; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:11:37 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:10:14 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19936; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:10:07 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA10351; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:09:37 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:09:36 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: kevan.riley@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: My TP 701 is on the way ! In-Reply-To: <9510018152.AA815262019@in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Nov 1995 kevan.riley@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu wrote: > I finally made the call, I ordered a TP-701C DX2-50 540 > Meg HD, and the 16 Meg mem card. I is on its way from > PC-Mall. Anybody interested in buying a TP701 should know that IBM is having a special friend-of-an-employee discount program. Basically, each employee is allowed to sell a TP701 to five friends at a heavily discounted price. The top of the line 701C DX4/75 with 720MB drive was $2799. Prices on other models were similarly discounted. If you visit comp.sys.laptops, there are (or were) many IBM employees taking advantage of this offer (they get a 701CS for almost free if they sell 5 this way), so you don't have to personally know an IBM employee to take advantage of this offer. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 16:16:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24453; Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:16:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26804; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 16:14:22 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 16:11:31 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26539; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 16:11:00 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA19278; Wed, 1 Nov 95 13:10:06 -0800 Received: by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA04927; Wed, 1 Nov 95 13:08:13 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 13:08:11 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Where can I get a 1.2gig internal HD for 755CX? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Where can I order a 1.2gig internal HD for the 755CX? I was going to order one from NECX Direct for $1200, but they don't seem to have them anymore. They ran out of them a couple of weeks ago, and said they would get some more in stock yesterday, but when I checked back yesterday (and today too), they had *removed* the item from the list of accessories. Is there any other place I can get that drive for about the same price? --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 17:25:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29388; Wed, 1 Nov 95 17:25:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03893; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 17:23:28 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 17:20:08 -0500 Received: from GSBVXB.UCHICAGO.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03602; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 17:19:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199511012219.RAA03602@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from gsbdwd by GSBVXB.UCHICAGO.EDU with SMTP; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 16:19:37 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: fac_doug@gsbvax.uchicago.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 16:19:06 -0600 To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: "Douglas W. Diamond" Subject: Datastor Mounting bracket for TP Has any one used the Datastor mounting bracket for mounting 2.5" ide drives in Thinkpads? It is listed at Internet Shopping Network for under $60. Any good or bad experiences? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 18:46:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08082; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:46:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10864; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:45:31 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:42:34 -0500 Received: from park.interport.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10654; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:42:32 -0500 Received: from interport.net (madison.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.1]) by park.interport.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id SAA02672 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:42:18 -0500 Received: (from alster@localhost) by interport.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id SAA11718; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:40:20 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:40:19 -0500 (EST) From: aoster Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: selling some drives In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey, I have a couple of drives I want to sell: $150, 2.5" 170-megs $100, 2.5" 120-megs I also have _one_ Thinkpad enclosure for $75... you can use it with 755CE and whatever else the drive case is compatible with...(yea, I know that sounds like a lot of money...but IBM....bleah...) The 170-megger has Linux installed...so if you buy the enclosure and drive from me, you can just pop out your drive...pop in this one and have Linux running....woowoo Thanks http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 1 18:46:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08087; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:46:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10862; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:45:31 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:42:14 -0500 Received: from park.interport.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10627; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:42:02 -0500 Received: from interport.net (madison.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.1]) by park.interport.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id SAA02642 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:41:57 -0500 Received: (from alster@localhost) by interport.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id SAA11858; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:41:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:41:12 -0500 (EST) From: aoster Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Datastor Mounting bracket for TP In-Reply-To: <199511012219.RAA03602@CS.UTK.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Nov 1995, Douglas W. Diamond wrote: > Has any one used the Datastor mounting bracket for mounting 2.5" ide drives in > Thinkpads? It is listed at Internet Shopping Network for under $60. > > Any good or bad experiences? Oh really? What's the URL? http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 04:45:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18246; Thu, 2 Nov 95 04:45:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA22010; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 04:44:44 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 04:40:32 -0500 Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA21651; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 04:40:19 -0500 Received: from efd.lth.se (f91el@saturnus-1 [130.235.41.11]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA09780 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:40:08 +0100 Message-Id: <199511020940.KAA09780@kobra.efd.lth.se> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Speeding up mouse in OS/" 2...   | ? Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 10:40:05 +0100 From: Erik Lindahl Hi, I know that this really isn't core thinkpad matter, but anyway   j how. ... There    here has ebb   e bene  en a lot of talk about the slowness of the pointer in o OS/2 when using the trackpoint device| . Anybody who has found a solution? The best thing would of course be a way to change the spped   eed without rep booting, since the driver os completely normal with the external mouse... Regards, Erik From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 09:25:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00212; Thu, 2 Nov 95 09:25:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17313; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:24:57 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:20:50 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16885; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:20:40 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA7989; Thu, 02 Nov 95 10:19:09 -0800 Message-Id: <9511021819.AA7989@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 40260C4F56B57F4A85256268004E0540; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:19:09 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 2 Nov 95 9:15:03 EDT Subject: audio adapters Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain has anyone ever put a 32-bit audio adapter in a 75X? we need 32-bit sound in order to run the internet phone in full-duplex mode, but i haven't seen anything 32-bit in pcmcia. thanks in advance, Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 09:30:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00268; Thu, 2 Nov 95 09:30:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17831; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:29:24 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:29:01 -0500 Received: from midway.uchicago.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17763; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:28:55 -0500 Received: from gsbdwd (gsbdwd.uchicago.edu [128.135.130.161]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id IAA19846 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 08:28:53 -0600 Message-Id: <199511021428.IAA19846@midway.uchicago.edu> X-Sender: fac_doug@gsbvax.uchicago.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 08:28:10 -0600 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Douglas W. Diamond" Subject: Re: Datastor Mounting bracket for TP At 06:41 PM 11/1/95 -0500, alster@interport.net wrote: >On Wed, 1 Nov 1995, Douglas W. Diamond wrote: > >> Has any one used the Datastor mounting bracket for mounting 2.5" ide drives in >> Thinkpads? It is listed at Internet Shopping Network for under $60. >> >> Any good or bad experiences? > >Oh really? What's the URL? > it is http://www.internet.net The listing is: DATASTOR - BRACKET KIT, 2.5 IDE HD, IBM Our Part Number: 116486 Product Description: THINKPAD 355/750/750C/750CS Product Category: MASS STORAGE DEVICES - DRIVE CABINETS & MOUNTING KITS CPU: MSD Manufacturer: DATASTOR Manufacturer Part Number: ITR210X Media: Compnt Weight: 0.26 lbs. Retail Price: $ 99.99 OUR PRICE IS: $ 53.16 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 09:35:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00356; Thu, 2 Nov 95 09:35:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18346; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:34:42 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:33:52 -0500 Received: from kalypso.cybercom.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18141; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:33:50 -0500 Received: (from dchan@localhost) by kalypso.cybercom.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA06237; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:33:27 -0500 From: "Derek V. Chan" Message-Id: <199511021433.JAA06237@kalypso.cybercom.net> Subject: Re: audio adapters To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com (Michael Verne/VENTANA) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:33:25 -0500 (EST) Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9511021819.AA7989@lgate.vmedia.com> from "Michael Verne/VENTANA" at Nov 2, 95 09:15:03 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > > has anyone ever put a 32-bit audio adapter in a 75X? we need 32-bit sound in > order to run the internet phone in full-duplex mode, but i haven't seen > anything 32-bit in pcmcia. > Huh? Just change the line in the [system.ini] to read FullDuplex instead... From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 09:53:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03811; Thu, 2 Nov 95 09:53:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20028; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:53:05 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:52:18 -0500 Received: from CQO6.whirlpool.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19549; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:49:39 -0500 From: Received: by CQO6.whirlpool.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA34205; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:49:38 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:49:38 -0500 Message-Id: <9511021449.AA34205@CQO6.whirlpool.com> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Linux on a 755CX Has anyone gotten Linux to run on the 755CX yet? I've tried all the tips from the Linux/Thinkpad Web site at peipa.essex.ac.uk (specifying the hard drive geometry, floppy=thinkpad, etc.) There was also nothing in the archives of this mailing list. The boot disk comes up just fine. I'm prompted to insert the root disk - once I do I get the following error: Kernel panic: VFS 1.2.13 Unable to mount root fs on 02:00 ...and then we're locked up. My machine is a TP 755CX - SVGA model with 24 MB RAM, 810 MB hard drive. If anybody can give me a hand here, I'd really appreciate it. :-) -- Doug Washington EMAIL: washide@cqo6.whirlpool.com Whirlpool Corporation EMAIL: washide@cluster.mcs.com St. Joseph, Michigan USA VOICE: (616) 923-5803 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 10:36:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06293; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:36:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24192; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:33:52 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:32:16 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23979; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:32:13 -0500 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa10513; 2 Nov 95 10:18 EST Received: by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (5.x/SMI-SVR4 (plus cnri and barry's mods)) id AA07762; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:17:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:17:59 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Manheimer Reply-To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US To: washide@cqo6.whirlpool.com Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Linux on a 755CX In-Reply-To: <9511021449.AA34205@CQO6.whirlpool.com> Message-Id: X-Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Nov 1995 washide@cqo6.whirlpool.com wrote: > Has anyone gotten Linux to run on the 755CX yet? I've tried all the > [...] > The boot disk comes up just fine. I'm prompted to insert the root > disk - once I do I get the following error: > > Kernel panic: VFS 1.2.13 Unable to mount root fs on 02:00 > > ...and then we're locked up. I recently surmounted a similar, and *possibly* related problem on my 701cs. It turns out that i was using an uncompressed rootdisk image, which was causing the problem. This despite the fact that the boot mechanism detects that it's uncompressed and proceeds to "load direct", or some such message. Switching to a gzipped image disk (using gzip and dd to write it directly to a floppy, from my unix workstation) was the solution. ken manheimer klm@cnri.reston.va.us (703) 620-8990 x259 Corporation for National Research Initiatives 1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 100 Reston, VA 22091 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 10:57:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07111; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:57:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26865; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:56:06 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:54:17 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26500; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:54:15 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA13371; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:50:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:50:25 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: washide@CQO6.whirlpool.com Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Linux on a 755CX In-Reply-To: <9511021449.AA34205@CQO6.whirlpool.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Nov 1995 washide@CQO6.whirlpool.com wrote: > Has anyone gotten Linux to run on the 755CX yet? I've tried all the > > The boot disk comes up just fine. I'm prompted to insert the root > disk - once I do I get the following error: > > Kernel panic: VFS 1.2.13 Unable to mount root fs on 02:00 > > ...and then we're locked up. A problem I had with Slackware and the 1.2.8 kernel on my TP750 was that the prompts were never really clear on when to change the disk. It prompted me twice. If I put in the root disk the first time, it would read the disk then give an "unable to mount root fs" message and lock up. If I left the boot disk in it would read the disk, then prompt me again (different prompt). Put in the root disk at that point, and the system would come up (off ramdisk). Or so I recall. :) ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 10:58:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07122; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:58:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27064; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:56:55 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:55:55 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26808; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:55:48 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA13396; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:55:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:55:13 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Erik Lindahl Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Speeding up mouse in OS/" 2...   | ? In-Reply-To: <199511020940.KAA09780@kobra.efd.lth.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Erik Lindahl wrote: > There    here has ebb   e bene  en > a lot of talk about the slowness of the pointer in o OS/2 > when using the trackpoint device| . Anybody who has found a solution? Heh heh. Might I suggest you change your editor? :) > The best thing would of course be a way to change the speed without > repbooting, since the driver os completely normal with the external mouse... Most people suggest using the shareware Rodent drivers (on all the big OS/2 ftp sites). I never used them so I'm not sure how they work or if you can change speeds without rebooting. But I've been told by several people that it does let you speed up the mouse. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 11:49:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09291; Thu, 2 Nov 95 11:49:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02780; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:47:02 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:41:52 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02286; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:41:48 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA13547; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:41:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:41:12 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Speeding up mouse in OS/" 2...   | ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, John H. Kim wrote: > On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Erik Lindahl wrote: > > > There^H ^H^H ^H^H ^H^H ^Hhere has ebb^H ^H^H ^H^H ^He^H ^Hbene^H ^H^H ^Hen > > a lot of talk about the slowness of the pointer in o^H ^HOS/2 > > when using the trackpoint device|^H ^H. Anybody who has found a solution? > > Heh heh. Might I suggest you change your editor? :) In case you're wondering about that remark, no, I'm not crazy. I've shown how Erik's text appeared in my editor. :) -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 13:54:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22579; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:54:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14016; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:51:05 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:47:50 -0500 Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13049; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:47:22 -0500 Received: from dec3300.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA06428; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:17:48 -0700 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by dec3300.cuug.ab.ca (5.65//ident-1.0) id AA18854; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:17:51 -0700 Message-Id: <9511021817.AA18854@dec3300.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: Linux on a 755CX To: washide@CQO6.whirlpool.com Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:17:51 -0700 (MST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9511021449.AA34205@CQO6.whirlpool.com> from "washide@CQO6.whirlpool.com" at Nov 2, 95 09:49:38 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Has anyone gotten Linux to run on the 755CX yet? I've tried all the > tips from the Linux/Thinkpad Web site at peipa.essex.ac.uk (specifying > the hard drive geometry, floppy=thinkpad, etc.) There was also nothing > in the archives of this mailing list. I thought there were messages from people who did get it working. > The boot disk comes up just fine. I'm prompted to insert the root > disk - once I do I get the following error: > > Kernel panic: VFS 1.2.13 Unable to mount root fs on 02:00 > > ...and then we're locked up. This is like the problem with older thinkpads where you had to use the "floppy=thinkpad" option. Not all thinkpads need this option (my 755CD doesn't) and if you supply it when not needed, same problem as not giving it when it is needed. In general I have found the newer Thinkpad models and the newer Linux kernels (1.2.x) to be much more compatable then in the past. With my 755CD (810Mb HD) I don't need to specify any options. Harddrive size is found fine by Linux and floppy works as normal! > My machine is a TP 755CX - SVGA model with 24 MB RAM, 810 MB hard > drive. This is pretty much the same as my 755CD (24Mb RAM, 810Mb HD, ...) so it should work fine! > If anybody can give me a hand here, I'd really appreciate it. :-) Hope this helps! > -- > Doug Washington EMAIL: washide@cqo6.whirlpool.com > Whirlpool Corporation EMAIL: washide@cluster.mcs.com > St. Joseph, Michigan USA VOICE: (616) 923-5803 +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 13:55:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22905; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:55:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14018; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:51:06 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:50:01 -0500 Received: from mail.crl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13678; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:49:56 -0500 Received: from crl12.crl.com by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA14722 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:25:17 -0800 Received: by crl12.crl.com id AA13841 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:17:48 -0800 From: Mark Ng Message-Id: <199511021717.AA13841@crl12.crl.com> Subject: Re: Linux on a 755CX To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:17:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <199511021703.AA13690@crl12.crl.com> from "Mark Ng" at Nov 2, 95 09:03:13 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I just tried booting Linux on an 8/540 SVGA 755CX >and it worked OK, i.e. got as far as mounting the >root disk and getting the slackware login prompt. > >I used the following: 1. bare boot disk and >uncompressed color.gz, written to floppy using ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sorry, I meant _compressed_ color.gz, left as-is and not uncompressed. -- Mark Ng mng@crl.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 13:56:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22916; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:56:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14179; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:52:30 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:51:47 -0500 Received: from lotus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14103; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:51:45 -0500 Received: from internet1.lotus.com (crd.lotus.com) by lotus.com (4.1/SMI-4.10801.1994) id AA22076; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:29:54 EST Received: by internet1.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27393; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:11:22 -0500 Message-Id: <9511021811.AA27393@internet1.lotus.com> Received: by Lotus (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V.02 Beta) id DC74E2A9897A17CF852562680063C0C4; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:11:12 EST To: Todd Tannenbaum Cc: TP750 From: Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus Date: 2 Nov 95 13:13:04 EST Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain > again, net.rumor says that they did not have enough room in the 701 to stick > in the MWave, which is quite a bit larger than the Yamaha chip. perhaps as Not quite net rumor...this was from one of the design engineers I bumped into on comp.sys.laptops. The display for the 701 can also have 256K colors as opposed to the 64K colors in the rest of the thinkpad line. On a slighly different note, do the 760's have a 32-bit memory architecture? I noted that they take the SO-DIMMs which are only 32-bit wide, but you don't have to add in two at a time as you do with a Pentium desktop because the Pentium bus is 64-bit. My suspicion is that the cache to Pentium portion is 64-bit but the main memory to cache part is only 32-bit. In case anyone else is wondering, the 760 uses a Trident graphics chip. ken From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 14:27:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25771; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:27:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18144; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:25:17 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:23:59 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17939; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:23:56 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id LAA12510 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:23:53 -0800 Received: from cds8962.cadence.com(158.140.56.57) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma012488; Thu Nov 2 11:23:46 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (pctedf.cadence.com [158.140.56.21]) by cds8962.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id LAA03723 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:25:54 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:25:54 -0800 Message-Id: <199511021925.LAA03723@cds8962.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Ted Frederick Subject: NT/Solaris X86 on TP75X? Anyone had any luck with Solaris 2.X on the ThinkPad 75X line? I'd like to configure one removable disk that will allow the user to do a dual-boot to either NT or Solaris. A formidable task I'm sure... Any ideas? Thanks, -Ted ************************ Ted Frederick Mgr. DM Practice Cadence Design Systems tedf@cadence.com ************************ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 14:34:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26353; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:34:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18534; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:28:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:27:44 -0500 Received: from nadia.ircam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18420; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:27:32 -0500 Received: from keith.ircam.fr by nadia.ircam.fr, Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:42:12 +0100 Received: by keith.ircam.fr, Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:42:11 +0100 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:42:11 +0100 From: Jonathan Marshall Message-Id: <199511021742.AA07511@keith.ircam.fr> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.100) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.100) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: MIDI problems Cc: marshall@keith.ircam.fr Reply-To: Jonathan.Marshall@ircam.fr Hi all, My first message seems to have been lost somewhere so I will rewrite my letter, appologies if you receive this twice. Since installing/uninstalling certian MIDI applications on my TP755C (ie no MWave) I have lost my MIDI playpack in windows 3.1. I can sill play wave files in windows and both wave and midi files in dos - just not midi files in windows. When I play a MIDI file in Windows everything slows down completely even the mouse pointer crawls across the screen and the sound produced is very distorted and jumpy (it actually sounds as if it is trying to play each note twice and they are over lapping) I've tried restoring my system.ini files to their original state and reinstalling the IBM audio drivers with no luck. When I remove the drivers completely nothing slows down at all but I (obviously) lose MIDI playback. Has anyone had this same problem, any sugesstions would be appreciated as this is one of the main uses I have for my thinkpad. Thank you all very much in advance Jon marshall@ircam.fr From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 15:17:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29613; Thu, 2 Nov 95 15:17:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23170; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:08:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:05:37 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22718; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:05:23 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA9273; Thu, 02 Nov 95 16:03:52 -0800 Message-Id: <9511030003.AA9273@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 0ACE0BE55D32515185256268005CB0F4; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:03:48 To: "Derek V. Chan" Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 2 Nov 95 15:01:35 EDT Subject: Re: audio adapters Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....Huh? Just change the line in the [system.ini] to read FullDuplex instead...." ~~~~~ not sure what line you're referring to, but the internet phone detects your sound card and, if it's 16-bit, goes into half-duplex mode. if you have a 32-bit card, it goes into full-duplex mode. if you've figured out a way to trick it, i'd love to hear the details. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 15:51:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00360; Thu, 2 Nov 95 15:51:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14700; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:55:31 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:54:22 -0500 Received: from mailsrv1.pcy.mci.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14471; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:54:13 -0500 Received: from [204.71.165.19] (dialup273.Washington.mci.net) by MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET (PMDF V4.3-13 #10044) id <01HX60ONTEKW91XFUP@MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET>; Thu, 02 Nov 1995 11:57:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 11:58:01 -0500 From: Joe Burns Subject: Linux on the 755CD To: tp750 Message-Id: <01HX60OOL5VM91XFUP@MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET> X-Mailer: e-mailMCI v2.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT -- [ From: Joe Burns * EMC.Ver #2.3 ] -- Hello! Are there any 755CD users on the list running Linux? I've got a 755CD with the internal IDE-CD, port replicator, and external 1.44 floppy drive running Linux (1.2.13 kernel with PCMCIA drivers). I can boot with no problem, but when card services load, I can't use the mouse. gpm is not loaded, but I get a "device busy". When I start X, I get a "device busy". I take out card services, and everything runs no problem. Has anyone else tried this? Thanks, Joe Burns jburns@internetMCI.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 15:52:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00404; Thu, 2 Nov 95 15:52:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14398; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:53:38 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:52:35 -0500 Received: from mail.crl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14182; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:52:30 -0500 Received: from crl12.crl.com by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA11414 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:10:31 -0800 Received: by crl12.crl.com id AA13690 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:03:14 -0800 From: Mark Ng Message-Id: <199511021703.AA13690@crl12.crl.com> Subject: Re: Linux on a 755CX To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:03:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <9511021449.AA34205@CQO6.whirlpool.com> from "washide@CQO6.whirlpool.com" at Nov 2, 95 09:49:38 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Has anyone gotten Linux to run on the 755CX yet? I've tried all the >tips from the Linux/Thinkpad Web site at peipa.essex.ac.uk (specifying >the hard drive geometry, floppy=thinkpad, etc.) There was also nothing >in the archives of this mailing list. > >The boot disk comes up just fine. I'm prompted to insert the root >disk - once I do I get the following error: > [...] I just tried booting Linux on an 8/540 SVGA 755CX and it worked OK, i.e. got as far as mounting the root disk and getting the slackware login prompt. I used the following: 1. bare boot disk and uncompressed color.gz, written to floppy using rawrite, from wcarchive's Slackware 3.0 distribution; 2. no boot parameters entered, just hit return at the Boot: prompt. If it matters, there was a small DOS partition on the hard disk and the device probe on boot reported a mapped geometry (523/32/63). A recent FreeBSD 2.1.0 SNAP installed and ran OK on this notebook with no special preparations or actions required. -- Mark Ng mng@crl.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 16:34:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07096; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:34:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01625; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:29:51 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:26:18 -0500 Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01358; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:26:00 -0500 Received: from dec3300.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA09196; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:25:29 -0700 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by dec3300.cuug.ab.ca (5.65//ident-1.0) id AA27350; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:25:28 -0700 Message-Id: <9511022125.AA27350@dec3300.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: Linux on the 755CD To: jburns@internetmci.com (Joe Burns) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:25:27 -0700 (MST) Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <01HX60OOL5VM91XFUP@MAIL-CLUSTER.PCY.MCI.NET> from "Joe Burns" at Nov 2, 95 11:58:01 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -- [ From: Joe Burns * EMC.Ver #2.3 ] -- > > Hello! > Are there any 755CD users on the list running Linux? You bet! I have a 755CD, 24Mb RAM, 810Mb HD. I use PCMCIA ethernet and modem cards with my machine too. I'm running Caldera but used to run Slackware. Here is some info on Linux on a 755CD: 1. The i82365 PCMCIA controller likes to choose interrupt 12. This is the same as used by the PS/2 type mouse in our Thinkpads. The mouse driver doesn't reserve the interrupt until it is used so the PCMCIA stuff gets it first and no mouse! The fix is to add an option to the PCMCIA startup stuff (usually in /etc/rc.d/rc.pcmcia) that gives "irq_mask=0xceb8". This disallows irq 12 for the PCMCIA so it is free for the mouse. You may need to add an "exclude irq 12" line to your PCMCIA config file as well just to be sure the irq isn't given away to a PCMCIA device. 2. If you try really using iso9660 cds you will find that the ide-cd driver in 1.2.x Linux has a bug that screws up reading the data. If you go into a directory with many files and do an ls you may only see some of the files. Do another ls and there will be more. The fix is to grab the Linux 1.3.1 sources and copy over the one program from drivers/block/ide-cd.c. This is just one revision higher than the one in the 1.2.x kernels and it fixes the problem. 3. If you boot into DOS first, do the "MWGAMES ON CD", and then load linux using loadlin - the Soundblaster sound works in Linux as well as listening to audio CDs. The soundblaster must be compiled into your kernel and I boot with the lilo options "ro hdc=cdrom sound= 0x222051,0x138800". I had to add some "exclude irq 5" types lines to my PCMCIA config file to keep them free for the sound stuff but now it works great! Thats all I can think of. Any other problems just give me a msg and I've probably hit it before and can help you! > Thanks, > Joe Burns > jburns@internetMCI.com +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 16:58:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09089; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:58:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04353; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:55:17 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:53:56 -0500 Received: from skypoint.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04132; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:53:54 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME by skypoint.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0tB7ZA-0005JGC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 15:52 CST Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Nov 95 15:52 CST X-Sender: otoolec9@mirage.skypoint.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: otooleco@pobox.com (Sean T. O'Toole) Subject: 28.8 Modems I'm looking to upgrade to a 28.8 pcmcia now that prices seem to be moderating. My question is this: Are there any units in particular that I should avoid? How about any that are head and shoulders above the rest? Thanks, Sean O'Toole LFG, LLC otooleco@pobox.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 18:03:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16362; Thu, 2 Nov 95 18:03:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10552; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:00:55 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 17:58:41 -0500 Received: from ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10262; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 17:58:39 -0500 Received: by ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA49089; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 22:58:37 GMT Message-Id: <199511022258.AA49089@ibm.net> Date: Thu, 02 Nov 95 23:58:17 EST From: aenna@ibm.net (Alberto Enna) Reply-To: aenna@ibm.net (Alberto Enna) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Alberto Enna's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Microphone/Headphone Kit Can somebody help me in finding a good microphon/headphone kit for my TP755CD ? Next days I'll get the MWave DAA 28k8, and would be able to have my telephone calls more "confidentially"... Many thanks on advance. Bye by Alby/Warp 755CD From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 18:05:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16895; Thu, 2 Nov 95 18:05:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10938; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:04:04 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:03:31 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10870; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:03:29 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA9887; Thu, 02 Nov 95 19:01:58 -0800 Message-Id: <9511030301.AA9887@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id A46A96897FA24F3C85256268007CD199; Thu, 2 Nov 95 19:01:48 To: "Sean T. O'Toole" Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 2 Nov 95 17:56:11 EDT Subject: Re: 28.8 Modems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....Are there any units in particular that I should avoid? How about any that are head and shoulders above the rest?....." ~~~~ we've had nothing but success with the usr sportster 28.8 in our 360's (c, cse) and 755's (c, cd, cse). they don't require a client driver, so you can get away with only loading ss & cs in the config.sys & save some dos memory. this may be true of other modems, too, though. we've had no failures and haven't found a dialer yet with which the usr won't work-- either with the usr 28.8 pcmcia string, the closest usr string, or the generic hayes string. i think we pay around $300-$350 each. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 20:40:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03483; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:40:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22839; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 20:39:32 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 20:36:57 -0500 Received: from luyou by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22554; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 20:36:42 -0500 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by luyou (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id JAA17426 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:31:50 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199511030131.JAA17426@luyou> Subject: NT on TP360/12Mb To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:31:50 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text Hi, Any experiences from anyone concerning NT on a TP360/12Mb on performance. I currently have Warp, Linux and Dos on the disk. Any reasons against swapping Warp for NT on my machine? I plan to install a "stripped down" NT. Cheers. __________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 21:36:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08032; Thu, 2 Nov 95 21:36:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26890; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:35:24 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:33:26 -0500 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26784; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:33:22 -0500 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA29995 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:33:05 +1100 From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA10404 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:33:03 +1100 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:33:03 +1100 Message-Id: <199511030233.NAA10404@leonard.anu.edu.au> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: multiple net connections any easy/inexpensive way to shift between different networks (eg, office, enet, one ip address; lecture theater, enet, another ip address; home, modem, PPP, still another ip address), without having to reconfigure each time, and without having to pay a lot for functunality to you don't need? on a tp755ce running wfwg 3.11 regards, al + Alden S. Klovdahl, Ph.D e-mail: alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au Department of Sociology fax: +61 62 49 05 25 The Faculties voice - The Australian National University messages: +61 62 49 45 21 Canberra A.C.T. my office: +61 62 49 44 79 Australia 0200 home: +61 62 82 35 81 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 23:03:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13222; Thu, 2 Nov 95 23:03:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03371; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:02:37 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:01:12 -0500 Received: from mail-a.bcc.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03223; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:01:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199511030401.XAA03223@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from dialup-3.ucl.ac.uk by mail-a.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 04:00:51 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: A J Annala Subject: Re: multiple net connections Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 04:00:54 +0000 >Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 03:00:51 >To: Alden S Klovdahl >From: A J Annala >Subject: Re: multiple net connections > >At 01:33 PM 11/3/95 +1100, you wrote: >>any easy/inexpensive way to shift between different networks (eg, office, enet, >>one ip address; lecture theater, enet, another ip address; home, modem, PPP, >>still another ip address), without having to reconfigure each time, and >>without having to pay a lot for functunality to you don't need? > >Well, > >It depends on what you want to do at home and office. I frankly think all >this MS-Lan Manager, Novelle Net Manager, etc stuff is over complicated -- >and prone to too many configuration / reconfiguration change problems. > >I put simple Trumpet WinSock on my Thinkpad 750Cs. There is an overall >directory for my campus c:\UCL with subdirectories for various clients and >connection methods: > > C:\UCL\ETHERNET -- TRUMPET configured with IP addr for my Office > C:\UCL\SLIP -- TRUMPET configured with IP addr for my Home > -- this TRUMPET is the only one in my DOS PATH > C:\UCL\TN -- NCSA TN3270 & 3C589 Ethernet Card Drivers > > C:\UCL\EUDORA -- offline email package > C:\UCL\CUSEEME -- videoconferencing > C:\UCL\GOCUSM -- videoconferincing IP dialing package > C:\UCL\IPHONE -- internet audioconferinging > C:\UCL\IRCIIWIN -- internet chat > C:\UCL\NETSCAPE -- www browser > C:\UCL\NTERM26 -- VT100/ANSI terminal > C:\UCL\SPOOL -- print spooling (tmp) directory > C:\UCL\WINTALK -- internet talk > C:\UCL\WINVN -- network news > C:\UCL\WLPRS -- unix print spooler > >There are two ICONS in my windows EXECUTABLES folder -- one which is LABELED >ETHERNET (TCPMAN -ip=)and one which is LABELED >SLIP (TCPMAN -ip=0.0.0.0) for dynamic address assignment from home. > >When I am at office, I turn on PC, enter TNINIT (a bat file in \UCL\TN) >which loads DOS drivers for ethernet (3C589PD.EXE, WINPKT.EXE) -- you could >put this in BAT file if you don't care about low memory / UMB consumption -- >run Windows, click on ETHERNET, run whatever Winsock applications are needed. > >When I am at home, I just click on the appropriate Winsock application -- >and it searches through the DOS PATH, finds the TCPMAN configured for SLIP, >dials the phone, does whatever I need, and disconnects automatically. If >I want to stay connected at home without automatic connection/disconnection >I just click on SLIP TCPMAN. > >By the way, don't forget to load everything (drivers, shims, whatever) HIGH >-- and make B000-B7FF, and E000-E5FF available for UMBs. With card services, >ethernet drivers, etc all loaded I still have 630KB lower memory available. > >Dr. Alexander J. Annala >Senior Research Fellow >Laboratory for Molecular Pharmacology >University College London > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 23:03:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13224; Thu, 2 Nov 95 23:03:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03367; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:02:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 22:59:42 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03051; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 22:59:34 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA03453; Thu, 2 Nov 95 19:59:07 -0800 Received: by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA00695; Thu, 2 Nov 95 19:57:01 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 19:57:00 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Can't boot from new hard drive Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I purchased a new 1.3gig Toshiba hard drive, and have installed it in my ThinkPad 755CX, but I can't boot off of it. I booted a floppy, formatted the drive and installed my OS, but the ThinkPad refuses to boot from the hard drive. I even ran the test from EZ Setup on the hard drive, and it reports ok. When I try to boot the computer, it spins the floppy, clicks the drive a little, then gives me some goofy screen that wants me to insert a floppy. Just for the hell of it, I pulled out the hard drive, booted without *any* hard drive, and got the same stupid screen. What do I have to do to get the ThinkPad to boot this new hard drive? --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 23:26:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15884; Thu, 2 Nov 95 23:26:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05120; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:25:24 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:22:46 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04887; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:22:43 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (root@aludra-scf2.usc.edu [128.125.73.232]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id UAA08898; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 20:22:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id PAA12086; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:55:55 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511022355.PAA12086@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? To: Kenneth_Yee/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com (Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:55:52 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <9511021811.AA27393@internet1.lotus.com> from "Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus" at Nov 2, 95 01:13:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Not quite net rumor...this was from one of the design engineers > I bumped into on comp.sys.laptops. The display for the 701 can > also have 256K colors as opposed to the 64K colors in the rest > of the thinkpad line. Sounds like you know something about the 701's. May I ask a few questions? The display--256 colors or 64,000? (You wrote "256K" but I think that might be a mistake--please clarify). Also, can this thing actually be used outside? (i.e., is the screen viewable outdoors? My 750C is *terrible* for outdoor viewing...). Battery life (realistic) is...? Can you change to a new battery on the fly like on the 750's? Many thanks--I'm thinking of buying one of these things and I want to know what I'm getting into. ;-) ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 23:26:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15891; Thu, 2 Nov 95 23:26:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA05131; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:25:26 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:23:15 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04898; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:23:00 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (root@aludra-scf2.usc.edu [128.125.73.232]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id UAA08936; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 20:22:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id QAA13244; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:03:21 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511030003.QAA13244@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? To: Kenneth_Yee/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com (Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:03:19 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <9511021811.AA27393@internet1.lotus.com> from "Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus" at Nov 2, 95 01:13:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Not quite net rumor...this was from one of the design engineers > I bumped into on comp.sys.laptops. The display for the 701 can > also have 256K colors as opposed to the 64K colors in the rest > of the thinkpad line. Sounds like you know something about this 701 machine...mind if I ask a few questions? My brother is with IBM and with that "friends" program, looks like I can get one inexpensively. Just want to make sure of a couple things... What's the battery life like? Can a new one be swapped-in on the fly like with the 750's? The Display--256 colors like you seem to mention (though you put 256K, but I presume that's a typo) or 64K? Is the display viewable outdoors or not? (The 750C I have is *terrible* outdoors--can't see it worth a darn--I *really* want a machine I can work outside with!). What ports are *on* the machine (as opposed to having to hook up some extra doo-dad)? Serial, Parallel, Video, Mouse, & PCMCIA? I presume the floppy drive, though external, is included in the package? Is the AC Adapter a small little animal (i.e., a "travel" adapter) too? Many thanks for your help or anyone else's in advance... ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 23:40:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17097; Thu, 2 Nov 95 23:40:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06239; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:39:59 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:38:55 -0500 Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06153; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:38:46 -0500 Received: (from alster@localhost) by alster.port.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA06799; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:59:29 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:59:28 -0500 (EST) From: retsla X-Sender: alster@alster.port.net Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: multiple net connections In-Reply-To: <199511030233.NAA10404@leonard.anu.edu.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Alden S Klovdahl wrote: > any easy/inexpensive way to shift between different networks (eg, office, enet, > one ip address; lecture theater, enet, another ip address; home, modem, PPP, > still another ip address), without having to reconfigure each time, and > without having to pay a lot for functunality to you don't need? Ditto ...with Windows95 ....damn annoying to change all the settings in the network control panel and reboot each time I'm in the office or back at home. (With Linux, I just run one of two shell scripts that do the ifconfig and routing stuff.) http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 23:42:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17264; Thu, 2 Nov 95 23:42:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06590; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:41:32 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:40:17 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06294; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:40:14 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA17616; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:39:32 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:39:28 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Randal Whittle Cc: TP Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? In-Reply-To: <199511022355.PAA12086@aludra.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Randal Whittle wrote: > Kenneth Yee wrote: > > Not quite net rumor...this was from one of the design engineers > > I bumped into on comp.sys.laptops. The display for the 701 can > > also have 256K colors as opposed to the 64K colors in the rest > > of the thinkpad line. > > Sounds like you know something about the 701's. May I ask a > few questions? I think he's referring to Doug Haigh. Doug works at IBM's U.S. Thinkpad development, first on the 350, then on the 701. He posted the original announcement for the 701 on comp.sys.laptops. I can mail you his email address. I'm a little reluctant to send it to the entire mailing list. > The display--256 colors or 64,000? (You wrote "256K" but I > think that might be a mistake--please clarify). The video on the 701 is capable of 24bit color. The video on the 75x machines can only do 8-bit or 16-bit. I'm not sure if the 256k (it is 256k, not 256) vs. 64k is a video thing or an active matrix thing. Whichever it is, a 755 with the 701's screen could only show 64k colors because of its video. Anyone know about the 760? ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 23:58:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17849; Thu, 2 Nov 95 23:58:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08052; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:57:51 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:56:19 -0500 Received: from sentinel.synapse.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07854; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:56:16 -0500 Received: from violin-30.synapse.net (violin-30.synapse.net [199.84.52.208]) by sentinel.synapse.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id XAA05518 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:56:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199511030456.XAA05518@sentinel.synapse.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Patrick Hong" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:00:18 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Can't boot from new hard drive Reply-To: phong@phsmc.synapse.net Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) > I purchased a new 1.3gig Toshiba hard drive, and have installed it > in my ThinkPad 755CX, but I can't boot off of it. I booted a floppy, > formatted the drive and installed my OS, but the ThinkPad refuses > to boot from the hard drive. I even ran the test from EZ Setup on > the hard drive, and it reports ok. Sorry if this sounds too trivial, but when you formatted the drive, did you transfer the system files? If you're using DOS, you can transfer the system files with the FORMAT /S command or use the SYS C: after booting from the floppy. Note, you have to copy the SYS.COM to your boot disk as it is not part of the DOS kernal. ...patrick ______________________________________________________________________ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@phsmc.synapse.net (613) 769-1544 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 2 23:58:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18103; Thu, 2 Nov 95 23:58:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07956; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:57:06 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:54:26 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA07558; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:54:23 -0500 Received: from [128.125.222.128] (comserv-g-35.usc.edu [128.125.223.179]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with SMTP id UAA16735; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 20:54:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:01:58 -0800 To: "John H. Kim" From: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? Cc: TP At 11:39 PM 11/2/95, John H. Kim wrote: >> Sounds like you know something about the 701's. May I ask a >> few questions? > >I think he's referring to Doug Haigh. Doug works at IBM's U.S. >Thinkpad development, first on the 350, then on the 701. He posted >the original announcement for the 701 on comp.sys.laptops. I can >mail you his email address. I'm a little reluctant to send it to >the entire mailing list. Please do send it to me if you will, John. >> The display--256 colors or 64,000? (You wrote "256K" but I >> think that might be a mistake--please clarify). > >The video on the 701 is capable of 24bit color. Hmph! Well 24-bit would be 16.7 Million colors--but 256,000 would still be very good if it can do that. ;-) Do you know if the video is "true" acceleration, or just local bus of some sort (or both)? > The video on the >75x machines can only do 8-bit or 16-bit. I'm not sure if the 256k >(it is 256k, not 256) vs. 64k is a video thing or an active matrix >thing. Whichever it is, a 755 with the 701's screen could only show >64k colors because of its video. Anyone know about the 760? So you're say that the 701's video is better than the 755? Does it by chance do 800x600 like the newer 755's do also? And I don't suppose you know about the battery life issue, do you? ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 00:05:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18475; Fri, 3 Nov 95 00:05:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09029; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:04:51 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:03:20 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08854; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:03:17 -0500 Received: from [128.125.222.128] (comserv-g-35.usc.edu [128.125.223.179]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with SMTP id VAA18763; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:03:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:10:55 -0800 To: otooleco@pobox.com (Sean T. O'Toole), tp750@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: 28.8 Modems At 3:52 PM 11/2/95, Sean T. O'Toole wrote: >I'm looking to upgrade to a 28.8 pcmcia now that prices seem to be >moderating. My question is this: Are there any units in particular that I >should avoid? How about any that are head and shoulders above the rest? DON'T buy anything by Practical Peripherals! I had nothing but trouble out of the blasted thing and the company itself nearly screwed me. In contrast, though I've had only a couple weeks to try it out, I've been very happy with the Megahurtz modem I have. The PPI--first the thing wasn't properly grounded, then the "X-Jack" thingy wouldn't stay inside the modem when pushed in. Got another one via warranty (after weeks of waiting)--same problem with the X-Jack, right out of the box! Complained: Waited 4 MONTHS--then got a BILL from PPI saying they had shipped me a modem (they didn't) and I hadn't sent mine back (of course, 'cuz I never got a new one!). Bitched, moaned, cried...*finally* got another modem (after 2 more months) from the factory a couple weeks ago. I *Immediately* sold it while it was still in good shape, replacing it with a new Megahurtz modem. I'll never buy anything made by PPI again. Poor quality product (at least this one was--imagine having to go through 2 modems before the 3rd one finally gets it right!), and *rotten* customer service (I'm willing to bet I spent nearly $40 in long distance charges just because these fools could never get anything done in a reasonable amount of time). Its no wonder these people are under bankrupcty protection--they stink and probably don't deserve to stay in business. Just my two vitriolic cents... ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 00:12:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18941; Fri, 3 Nov 95 00:12:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09588; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:10:58 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:07:31 -0500 Received: from sentinel.synapse.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09244; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:07:29 -0500 Received: from violin-30.synapse.net (violin-30.synapse.net [199.84.52.208]) by sentinel.synapse.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id AAA05910 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:07:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199511030507.AAA05910@sentinel.synapse.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Patrick Hong" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:11:26 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Network Connectivity... Part 2 Reply-To: phong@phsmc.synapse.net Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) I would like some advice and / or hear of any experiences you have connecting your notebook to various networks. I have a Thinkpad 755CX running Windows for Workgroups 3.11 (yes, still) to remain compatible with my client. I have a 3Com Etherlink 3C589 PCMCIA network card and loading 3COM's Novell VLM drivers to connect to by client's Novell 3.12 network. My problem is that I want to connect to my P-90 computer at home to share the tape backup unit and CD-ROM drive. Most importantly, the tape back-up for obvious reasons. I have Windows for Workgroups running on the P-90 but have not installed the peer-to-peer network drivers since I don't know if this is the best way to go. One of my assoicates says the peer-to-peer services in WFWG is messy as it modifies my WIN.INI / SYSTEM.INI files and I may not be able to connect to my client's Novell server anymore. The bottom line is that I don't want messier INI files if I don't have to and would rather add another boot configuration that loads drivers outside of Windows. With this, I can isolate and manage my network configurations outside of Windows. I'm inching closer and closer to installing Lantastic on both my notebook and P-90 but would like to hear anyone's experiences on this matter. Being an independent consultant, I cannot risk any down time with my notebook and desparately need to back-up the hard drive. Thanks in advance... patrick ______________________________________________________________________ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@phsmc.synapse.net (613) 769-1544 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 00:13:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19538; Fri, 3 Nov 95 00:13:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09736; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:12:26 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:11:13 -0500 Received: from mail-a.bcc.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09617; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:11:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199511030511.AAA09617@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from dialup-1.ucl.ac.uk by mail-a.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 05:10:52 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: A J Annala Subject: Can't boot from new hard drive Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 05:10:54 +0000 >I purchased a new 1.3gig Toshiba hard drive, and have installed it >in my ThinkPad 755CX, but I can't boot off of it. >What do I have to do to get the ThinkPad to boot this new hard >drive? I had the same problem on my old IBM PS/2 Note N51/sx (386SX-16, 2MB, 40MB) system. The drive passed diagnostics. It just wouldn't boot. This seems to be a common DOS problem on notebooks. I've never seen anyone have the same problem on desktop systems. There is what seems to be an undocumented flag on FORMAT, FDISK, or SYS -- /WMB -- which means something like Write Master Boot (block). You probably need to run this command to boot from your hard drive. Neither one of the following two paragraphs apply to your system: Also, there may be an issue with the geometry of your drive. Some BIOS (I'm not sure about your BIOS) do not like to boot from an image which is stored on a hard drive above the 1024th cylinder. You can get around this problem by making two partitions -- and keeping the bootable image of DOS in the first partition -- below the 1024th cylinder. If you had a TP750, 750C, 750Ce, 750Cs, or 750P with the original BIOS you might need to install the new system program service diskette -- SYTPS141 available from http://www.pc.ibm.com/pub/mobiles -- the V1.05 update of the system program enabled access to disk drive >= 512MB. Does anyone know why the /WMB flag (or whatever it is) is undocumented? I have to work from vague ancient memories to answer this question. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 00:23:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19834; Fri, 3 Nov 95 00:23:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10494; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:22:09 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:20:43 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10353; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:20:40 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA17821; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:19:45 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:19:43 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Randy Whittle Cc: TP Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Randy Whittle wrote: > Do you know if the [TP701] video is "true" acceleration, or > just local bus of some sort (or both)? It's the Chips and Technologies 65545 chipset. Same as in the Toshiba 4900CT, Zeos Meridian 850, Dell LX4100D, Gateway Liberty, and NEC Versa M and P75. I think it's also in the Toshiba 610CT. This chipset has a pretty bad rep among Linux users because (rumor) the exact hardware implementation can be varied by the notebook manufacturer, making it difficult to write drivers for. > So you're say that the 701's video is better than the 755? > Does it by chance do 800x600 like the newer 755's do also? Well, the 701 supports more colors. I don't know if it's any faster. I haven't seen any benchmarks comparing it and the WD90C24(A) in the 350/360/750/755. > And I don't suppose you know about the battery life issue, do you? No. I'm considering a 701 and the battery life is my chief concern. I've heard 1h45m on comp.sys.laptops. That's a pretty big drop from the 3.5-5 hours I get on my 750 mono. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 01:07:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22229; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:07:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12789; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 01:06:46 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 01:03:32 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA12475; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 01:03:01 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA04291; Thu, 2 Nov 95 22:02:06 -0800 Received: by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA01117; Thu, 2 Nov 95 22:00:31 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 22:00:30 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: "A J Annala" Subject: Re: Can't boot from new hard drive Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199511030511.aaa09617@cs.utk.edu> References: <199511030511.aaa09617@cs.utk.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit On Nov. 02 95, 21:10 PST, "A J Annala" wrote: > This seems to be a common DOS problem on notebooks. I've never > seen anyone have the same problem on desktop systems. There is > what seems to be an undocumented flag on FORMAT, FDISK, or SYS -- > /WMB -- which means something like Write Master Boot (block). You > probably need to run this command to boot from your hard drive. Well, fdisk didn't like the /WMB option, but when I ran it, it claimed there were no partitions at all on the disk. I told it to go ahead and create a DOS partition (I'm installing NeXTSTEP, and dedicating the entire drive to it), and when I rebooted, the drive was happy to boot. Of course, it trashed the NeXTSTEP that was there, so I had to re-install that. After re-installing NeXTSTEP, the drive no longer wants to boot. What's going on here? --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 02:40:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26757; Fri, 3 Nov 95 02:40:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19480; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 02:39:45 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 02:37:41 -0500 Received: from ptarmigan.CS.Berkeley.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA19281; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 02:37:35 -0500 Received: (from steverod@localhost) by ptarmigan.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA26600 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:38:12 -0800 From: Steve Rodrigues Message-Id: <199511030738.XAA26600@ptarmigan.CS.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:38:12 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John H. Kim wrote: > On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Randy Whittle wrote: > > Do you know if the [TP701] video is "true" acceleration, or > > just local bus of some sort (or both)? > > It's the Chips and Technologies 65545 chipset. Same as in the > Toshiba 4900CT, Zeos Meridian 850, Dell LX4100D, Gateway Liberty, > and NEC Versa M and P75. I think it's also in the Toshiba 610CT. > This chipset has a pretty bad rep among Linux users because (rumor) > the exact hardware implementation can be varied by the notebook > manufacturer, making it difficult to write drivers for. I believe that it's 'just' an accelerator, not local bus. One annoying thing is that it appears to only support 60Hz refresh external, and even worse, the drivers it comes with do 1024x768 interlaced. It looks *hideous*. (I am, however, rather sensitive to this stuff.) > > So you're say that the 701's video is better than the 755? > > Does it by chance do 800x600 like the newer 755's do also? On the LCD, no. It's still 640x480. (It's amazing how cramped that feels now....) > > And I don't suppose you know about the battery life issue, do you? > No. I'm considering a 701 and the battery life is my chief concern. > I've heard 1h45m on comp.sys.laptops. That's a pretty big drop from > the 3.5-5 hours I get on my 750 mono. Was this the NiCd or NiMH battery? I got a NiMH with mine (I got the top of the line DX4/75,8M720M,TFT) and bought a second battery, also NiMH. The battery gauge (which is quite cool-looking :) claims that a full charge is good for 3:28 or so. Floppy usage kills it, unsurprisingly. It ostensibly hot-swaps. Mine, as shipped, did so very unreliably, and as a result, it is now sitting somewhere in Memphis awaiting a new motherboard. :( (The modem jack also didn't make a connection with the phone line.) The AC adapter is a two-prong, handles 120-240V. You can also get a "worldwide" AC adapter (about $49 list) which supposedly works elsewhere. We'll see. I like mine, feature-wise. But I'm rather perturbed that it shipped with two immediately obvious flaws (the modem jack and the unreliable hot swap). I've also heard unkind things about the mic. If it works, you should have a nice machine. And the size and weight is just wonderful. Steve -- Steve Rodrigues | Lost, yesterday, somewhere between sunrise and Expatriate Texan | sunset, two golden hours, each set with sixty UC Berkeley, Dept. of EECS | diamond minutes. No reward is offered, for they steverod@cs.berkeley.edu | are gone forever. -- Horace Mann From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 03:12:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27831; Fri, 3 Nov 95 03:12:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21672; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 03:11:28 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 03:09:33 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21355; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 03:09:30 -0500 Received: from [128.125.222.128] (comserv-b-40.usc.edu [128.125.222.40]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with SMTP id AAA13335; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:09:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:17:09 -0800 To: Steve Rodrigues , tp750@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? At 11:38 PM 11/2/95, Steve Rodrigues wrote: >On the LCD, no. It's still 640x480. >(It's amazing how cramped that feels now....) Ahhh, and owner! Steve, did you ever try to use this thing outdoors in outdoor ambient light? Could you see the screen worth a darn? My 750C is absolutely worthless outside, and that's something I'd like to use a notebook machine for. >> > And I don't suppose you know about the battery life issue, do you? > >> No. I'm considering a 701 and the battery life is my chief concern. >> I've heard 1h45m on comp.sys.laptops. That's a pretty big drop from >> the 3.5-5 hours I get on my 750 mono. > >Was this the NiCd or NiMH battery? I got a NiMH with mine (I got the top >of the line DX4/75,8M720M,TFT) and bought a second battery, also NiMH. >The battery gauge (which is quite cool-looking :) claims that a full charge is >good for 3:28 or so. Floppy usage kills it, unsurprisingly. Have you actually *timed* it though? My current 750C batt. guage used to claim 3:30 everytime, but I never got any more than 2:30 (even less now that the battery is a bit used up--but that guage still starts off at 3:30...) I'd like to know what the *realistic* time is under normal use (though with all the battery-save features turned on). That doesn't have to include floppy usage either. Can you give me your experience? >The AC adapter is a two-prong, handles 120-240V. You can also get a "worldwide" How big/heavy is it? ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 09:17:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16523; Fri, 3 Nov 95 09:17:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24012; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:16:45 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:11:42 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23583; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:11:38 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA2182; Fri, 03 Nov 95 10:10:06 -0800 Message-Id: <9511031810.AA2182@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id EBDE3D6FB80573DB85256269004D0FD4; Fri, 3 Nov 95 10:10:06 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 3 Nov 95 9:03:07 EDT Subject: Re: 28.8 Modems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....and 755's (c, cd, cse)...." ~~~~~ oops... but i think you get the picture. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 10:18:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19528; Fri, 3 Nov 95 10:18:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29269; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:12:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:10:10 -0500 Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28882; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:08:36 -0500 Received: from [192.70.249.32] (mac32.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA00231; Fri, 3 Nov 95 10:08:31 EST Message-Id: <9511031508.AA00231@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:23:53 +0100 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: multiple net connections >any easy/inexpensive way to shift between different networks (eg, office, enet, >one ip address; lecture theater, enet, another ip address; home, modem, PPP, >still another ip address), without having to reconfigure each time, and >without having to pay a lot for functunality to you don't need? > >on a tp755ce running wfwg 3.11 I can't help there, but I have a very similar problem running warp and tcpip for OS/2 2.0. I can run via pcmcia ethernet, and I can make a PPP connection via modem, but I can't get tcpip applications to talk to the PPP connection. The documantation suggests that it should be possible to run both without a complete re-configure each time, but they don't say how to set it up. In typical IBM fashion, the manual only includes information which should be common knowledge to any semi computer literate person. Anything more complicated is refered to another manual which, presumably, you have to track down and purchase separately. Any ideas for either of us? ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 11:05:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21646; Fri, 3 Nov 95 11:05:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03287; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:51:49 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:49:21 -0500 Received: from lotus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02858; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:49:18 -0500 Received: from internet1.lotus.com (crd.lotus.com) by lotus.com (4.1/SMI-4.10801.1994) id AA22121; Fri, 3 Nov 95 11:02:47 EST Received: by internet1.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06085; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:44:05 -0500 Message-Id: <9511031544.AA06085@internet1.lotus.com> Received: by Lotus (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V.02 Beta) id 8CA1C43BCD877E20852562690055BD51; Fri, 3 Nov 95 10:44:03 EST To: Randal Whittle Cc: TP From: Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus Date: 3 Nov 95 10:43:49 EST Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain > The display--256 colors or 64,000? (You wrote "256K" but I > think that might be a mistake--please clarify). John Kim is right about the engineer who posted. I replied to him and asked him a bunch of questions after the post :-) The display is not an IBM display..I think it is a Sharp one. He said it could display 278000 colors (hardware) if I remember right in 16M color mode (on the video driver). The 64K color for current 75x and 76x systems is a limitation of the panel on the thinkpads. I actually think it's a combined limitation of the drivers on the video chip and the video display but can't confirm unless I get the design specs on the video chip and panels. > Also, can this thing actually be used outside? (i.e., is > the screen viewable outdoors? My 750C is *terrible* for outdoor > viewing...). The "black matrix" ones are supposed to be usable outside. This includes the 755CE/CD series and the 760. This is supposed to be one of the enhancements in the newer IBM displays. Not sure about the butterfly. > Battery life (realistic) is...? Can you change to a new > battery on the fly like on the 750's? No idea on this unfortunately. The lack of expandability (no Mwave and no expansion slot) killed my thoughts on buying one. The weight and size are excellent though... ken From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 12:21:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25847; Fri, 3 Nov 95 12:21:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13216; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:19:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:11:57 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12318; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:11:48 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id JAA06894; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:11:38 -0800 Received: from cds8962.cadence.com(158.140.56.57) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma006743; Fri Nov 3 09:11:02 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (pctedf.cadence.com [158.140.56.21]) by cds8962.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id JAA03763; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:13:16 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:13:16 -0800 Message-Id: <199511031713.JAA03763@cds8962.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Alden.Klovdahl@anu.edu.au, tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Ted Frederick Subject: Re: multiple net connections At 01:33 PM 11/3/95 +1100, you wrote: > >any easy/inexpensive way to shift between different networks (eg, office, enet, >one ip address; lecture theater, enet, another ip address; home, modem, PPP, >still another ip address), without having to reconfigure each time, and >without having to pay a lot for functunality to you don't need? > >on a tp755ce running wfwg 3.11 > Well, for $89.95 (US) you can... Move to Win95. In W95 you can have separate LAN, and multiple PPP "Connectiods" that each have their own IP, and Gateway. The three DNS IPs are shared, however. Regards, -Ted **************************** Ted Frederick Principal Mgr. DM Practice Voice: 408.894.2275 Fax: 408.894.3484 tedf@cadence.com **************************** From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 12:45:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27474; Fri, 3 Nov 95 12:45:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14938; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:40:12 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:38:56 -0500 Received: from park.interport.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14813; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:38:54 -0500 Received: from interport.net (madison.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.1]) by park.interport.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA20846 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:38:39 -0500 Received: (from alster@localhost) by interport.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id MAA09036; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:38:36 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:38:35 -0500 (EST) From: aoster Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: multiple net connections In-Reply-To: <199511031713.JAA03763@cds8962.Cadence.COM> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Ted Frederick wrote: > At 01:33 PM 11/3/95 +1100, you wrote: > > > >any easy/inexpensive way to shift between different networks (eg, office, enet, > >one ip address; lecture theater, enet, another ip address; home, modem, PPP, > >still another ip address), without having to reconfigure each time, and > >without having to pay a lot for functunality to you don't need? > > > >on a tp755ce running wfwg 3.11 > > Well, for $89.95 (US) you can... > > Move to Win95. In W95 you can have separate LAN, and multiple PPP > "Connectiods" that each have their own IP, and Gateway. The three DNS IPs > are shared, however. No ...you can have multiple PPP configurations but not multiple LAN (Ethernet) configurations. http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 12:47:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27674; Fri, 3 Nov 95 12:47:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15526; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:45:31 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:44:34 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15300; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:44:32 -0500 Received: from [128.125.223.162] (comserv-h-24.usc.edu [128.125.224.24]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with SMTP id JAA23125 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:44:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:52:13 -0800 To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: BlackMatrix TFT Displays--Can you See them Outside or not? Okay--for all of you with the 75X machines and your "BlackMatrix" TFT displays--can you use/read these things outdoors in outdoor ambient light or not? Is it usable outside? Have any of your had a chance to compare with other displays outdoors? ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 13:12:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00050; Fri, 3 Nov 95 13:12:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17128; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:04:38 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:03:29 -0500 Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16959; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:03:27 -0500 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id MAA29846 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:03:18 -0600 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:03:18 -0600 Message-Id: <199511031803.MAA29846@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: Re: BlackMatrix TFT Displays--Can you See them Outside or not? At 09:52 AM 11/3/95 -0800, you wrote: > > Okay--for all of you with the 75X machines and your "BlackMatrix" >TFT displays--can you use/read these things outdoors in outdoor ambient >light or not? > > Is it usable outside? Have any of your had a chance to compare >with other displays outdoors? > the display on my 755CE (black matrix) is defintely easier to read in outdoor light than my 750C was. however, it is still far from "easy" to read outdoors (like a mono passive display is, for instance). with black matrix i can actually get some email done, for instance, in the passenger seat of a sunny car. but it is still very very hard to see sitting outside on a sunny patio. note that the black matrix is about the best you can get for an active color outdoors from any vendor; in this case, however, i think the best still isn't good enough. bottom line: it is an improvement, but not as anywhere as great as i would have liked. --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 14:01:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04520; Fri, 3 Nov 95 14:01:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23161; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:58:42 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:55:39 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22876; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:55:34 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id KAA22180; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:55:30 -0800 Received: from cds8962.cadence.com(158.140.56.57) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma022022; Fri Nov 3 10:55:05 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (pctedf.cadence.com [158.140.56.21]) by cds8962.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id KAA03768; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:57:00 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:57:00 -0800 Message-Id: <199511031857.KAA03768@cds8962.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: alster@interport.net, tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Ted Frederick Subject: Re: multiple net connections At 12:38 PM 11/3/95 -0500, aoster wrote: >On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Ted Frederick wrote: >> >> Well, for $89.95 (US) you can... >> >> Move to Win95. In W95 you can have separate LAN, and multiple PPP >> "Connectiods" that each have their own IP, and Gateway. The three DNS IPs >> are shared, however. > >No ...you can have multiple PPP configurations but not multiple LAN >(Ethernet) configurations. > Yes, it was my intent to convey that very message with my original e-mail, as terse as it was ;). It obviously needed further explanation, thank you for clearing that up. Note that I said a "separate LAN", not "multiple LANs". In order to change LAN settings, you must go into the Network Properties and change the IPs, gateway, etc., manually and then reboot. Multiple LANs are still problematic in Win95. Microsoft says that they intend to address this issue in future releases. I believe that the dial-up "Connectiods" are a step in the right direction. -Ted ************************ Ted Frederick Principal Mgr. DM Practice Cadence Design Systems tedf@cadence.com ************************ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 14:04:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04544; Fri, 3 Nov 95 14:04:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23358; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:00:13 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:59:13 -0500 Received: from park.interport.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23181; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:59:09 -0500 Received: from interport.net (madison.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.1]) by park.interport.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id NAA00246 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:59:00 -0500 Received: (from alster@localhost) by interport.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id NAA20462; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:58:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:58:55 -0500 (EST) From: aoster Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: multiple net connections In-Reply-To: <199511031857.KAA03768@cds8962.Cadence.COM> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Ted Frederick wrote: > At 12:38 PM 11/3/95 -0500, aoster wrote: > > >On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Ted Frederick wrote: > >> > >> Well, for $89.95 (US) you can... > >> > >> Move to Win95. In W95 you can have separate LAN, and multiple PPP > >> "Connectiods" that each have their own IP, and Gateway. The three DNS IPs > >> are shared, however. > > > >No ...you can have multiple PPP configurations but not multiple LAN > >(Ethernet) configurations. > > Yes, it was my intent to convey that very message with my original e-mail, > as terse as it was ;). It obviously needed further explanation, thank you > for clearing that up. > > Note that I said a "separate LAN", not "multiple LANs". In order to change > LAN settings, you must go into the Network Properties and change the IPs, > gateway, etc., manually and then reboot. Multiple LANs are still > problematic in Win95. Microsoft says that they intend to address this issue > in future releases. Yes, it's terribly annoying to do it twice a day. http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 14:12:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06417; Fri, 3 Nov 95 14:12:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24225; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:09:59 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:08:45 -0500 Received: from chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24051; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:08:42 -0500 Received: (from steverod@localhost) by chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA29889 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:08:27 -0800 From: Steve Rodrigues Message-Id: <199511031908.LAA29889@chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701c/cs DSP? To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:08:26 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Randy Whittle wrote: > Ahhh, and owner! Steve, did you ever try to use this thing > outdoors in outdoor ambient light? Could you see the screen worth a darn? > My 750C is absolutely worthless outside, and that's something I'd like to > use a notebook machine for. Well, I tried it while relaxing in a sunbeam.... it's pretty bad. The colors wash out pretty easily. > >> > And I don't suppose you know about the battery life issue, do you? > Have you actually *timed* it though? My current 750C batt. guage > used to claim 3:30 everytime, but I never got any more than 2:30 (even less > now that the battery is a bit used up--but that guage still starts off at > 3:30...) Nope, haven't had much of a chance to time it yet. I remember PC Mag's drain test gave the NiCd 1:41, with continuous usage. I haven't tried it yet. > >The AC adapter is a two-prong, handles 120-240V. > How big/heavy is it? The shipped US adapter is about the size of a large pack of cigarettes. Can't give you a definitive weight, but it doesn't seem very heavy. Again, PC Mag's "travel weight" is 5.1 lbs. (That includes the MultiPort and AC adapter, i assume....) You had asked about connectors. It has: (a) a docking station connector (b) a modem jack (c) an infrared port (d) audio-out (headphones) (e) audio-in (f) a port which you can either use as a parallel port or the disk drive port (must use a special cable for either). That's it. The MultiPort II (included) has a VGA, serial, and parallel port, along with mouse and keyboard ports. Steve -- Steve Rodrigues | Lost, yesterday, somewhere between sunrise and Expatriate Texan | sunset, two golden hours, each set with sixty UC Berkeley, Dept. of EECS | diamond minutes. No reward is offered, for they steverod@cs.berkeley.edu | are gone forever. -- Horace Mann From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 14:57:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09017; Fri, 3 Nov 95 14:57:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28401; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:55:03 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:53:57 -0500 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28284; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:53:48 -0500 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by Eisner.DECUS.Org (PMDF V4.2-12 #4291) id <01HX7L50RNKW000Y32@Eisner.DECUS.Org>; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:53:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 14:53:37 -0500 (EST) From: billy@mix.com Subject: Re: BlackMatrix TFT Displays--Can you See them Outside or not? In-Reply-To: Sender: YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <815428417.348868.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Mail-System-Version: > Okay--for all of you with the 75X machines and your "BlackMatrix" > TFT displays--can you use/read these things outdoors in outdoor ambient > light or not? In direct sunlight - not a prayer. Inside an equipment van with the doors open and rather high levels of ambient light it works fine, but I don't know exactly how much light there is here. Even with flouresent (sp?) light on inside the van it's still very readable. Billy Y.. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 14:57:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09022; Fri, 3 Nov 95 14:57:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28349; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:54:20 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:52:04 -0500 Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28172; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:52:00 -0500 Received: from [192.70.249.32] (mac32.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA01320; Fri, 3 Nov 95 14:51:54 EST Message-Id: <9511031951.AA01320@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 16:07:18 +0100 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: multiple net connections About 20 minutes after sending my original question, Bob Cowles replied with the following: >Before connecting to PPP, in an OS/2 command line window, enter > > IFCONFIG LAN0 DOWN > >Before switching back to use the ethernet enter > > IFCONFIG LAN0 UP > > >It works for me. Currently using WARP Connect, but the same thing worked >using Warp and TCPIP 2.0. (forwarded with the author's permission) I hibernated my computer, went home with my computer (work uses digital lines), woke up the computer, executed the above command, did a ppp connect (with dynamicly allocated IP) and I was off and running. All tcpip programs worked great. I then returned to work, executed the second command, and now I'm telnetting and ftping over lan. No need to reboot or alter any settings. This is so typical of IBM; hiding their best features as if they were state secrets! The only complication is that I have to hot-plug my pcmcia modem and ethernet cards after hibernation in order to reset them. My life would be complete if I could find a way of forcing a PCMCIA reset via software instead of ejecting and re-inserting the cards. Thanks again to Bob Cowles. ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Nov 3 15:48:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12655; Fri, 3 Nov 95 15:48:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24451; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:10:55 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:09:35 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24138; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:09:32 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id LAA24110; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:09:11 -0800 Received: from cds8962.cadence.com(158.140.56.57) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma024099; Fri Nov 3 11:09:07 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (pctedf.cadence.com [158.140.56.21]) by cds8962.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id LAA03773; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:11:08 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:11:08 -0800 Message-Id: <199511031911.LAA03773@cds8962.Cadence.COM> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, tannenba@engr.wisc.edu From: Ted Frederick Subject: Re: BlackMatrix TFT Displays--Can you See them Outside or not? At 12:03 PM 11/3/95 -0600, Todd Tannenbaum wrote: > >the display on my 755CE (black matrix) is defintely easier to read in >outdoor light than my 750C was. however, it is still far from "easy" to >read outdoors (like a mono passive display is, for instance). > >with black matrix i can actually get some email done, for instance, in the >passenger seat of a sunny car. but it is still very very hard to see >sitting outside on a sunny patio. note that the black matrix is about the >best you can get for an active color outdoors from any vendor; in this case, >however, i think the best still isn't good enough. > >bottom line: it is an improvement, but not as anywhere as great as i would >have liked. > (This is to the group, not just Todd) Gee whiz guys, what do you want ? Ever try watching TV outside in the sun? You can't see that very well either. Even the Sony Jumbotron in Times Square is hard to see in bright sunlight. You're disgruntled because your display isn't bright enough to be seen clearly in direct sunlight, and in the next breath want the battery to last 12 hours. Free lunch? NIET! -Ted Hmmm, maybe a small fusion reactor would do the trick. (And you thought the Pentium was hot....) ************************ Ted Frederick Principal Mgr. DM Practice Cadence Design Systems tedf@cadence.com ************************ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 17:07:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18272; Fri, 3 Nov 95 17:07:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10384; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 17:06:16 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 17:02:10 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09971; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 17:02:07 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra-scf2.usc.edu [128.125.73.232]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id OAA04857; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id OAA27488; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:01:54 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511032201.OAA27488@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: BlackMatrix TFT Displays--Can you See them Outside or not? To: tedf@cadence.com (Ted Frederick) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:01:51 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <199511031911.LAA03773@cds8962.Cadence.COM> from "Ted Frederick" at Nov 3, 95 11:11:08 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >the display on my 755CE (black matrix) is defintely easier to read in > >outdoor light than my 750C was. however, it is still far from "easy" to > >bottom line: it is an improvement, but not as anywhere as great as i would > >have liked. > Gee whiz guys, what do you want ? > > Ever try watching TV outside in the sun? You can't see that very well > either. Even the Sony Jumbotron in Times Square is hard to see in bright > sunlight. The issue isn't so much one of lighting as much as reflectivity. There is so much *glare* on the screen its impossible to read. But for me, I'm perfectly willing to sit in the shade--but my 750's screen is as bad in the shady outdoors as it is in direct sun. It just makes me puke when you see IBM ads with people and their ThinkPads ("Use it wherever you think best!") sitting on a rock in the bright, sunny mountains, happily using their little black notebook machine. Part of the reason I bought the dumb thing is to be able to do something akin to that--but its impossible. If it *can't* be done then *don't* feed me something that is tantamount to a *lie*. That's no better than the claimed battery life of 3.4 to 8 hours when *nobody* on this list ever got any better than 2.5 hours with their 750's (except the mono people--their actual numbers were just about what the marketing claim was). > You're disgruntled because your display isn't bright enough to be seen > clearly in direct sunlight, and in the next breath want the battery to last > 12 hours. Nevertheless, why not a secondary backlight? Could be turned on in bright conditions for maximum readibility in sunlight, off for max battery life (or just a brighter main backlight for everything--turn it up in the sun, down indoors). ThinkPads are generally considered to have screens that are not as bright as their competition's. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 18:00:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22326; Fri, 3 Nov 95 18:00:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14758; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 17:57:36 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 17:55:56 -0500 Received: from mail-a.bcc.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14607; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 17:55:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199511032255.RAA14607@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from dialup-2.ucl.ac.uk by mail-a.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 22:51:41 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: "Dr. Alexander J. Annala" Subject: Re: BlackMatrix TFT Displays--Can you See them Outside or not? Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 22:55:36 +0000 IF you REALLY WANT TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM do what casio did for sports fans attending American footbll and baseball games -- they use a transparent back panel which can be propped up and viewed with a translucent white panel that is illuminated by sunlight behind the TFT matrix - it works in a pocket TV -- it hould work fine with any of the Thinkpad projection TV systems -- the TP with the detachable LCD screen -- or one of the overhead projector screens. This solves the main problems with reflected sunlight illumination and low power backlight vs TFT screens. > Nevertheless, why not a secondary backlight? Could be turned on >in bright conditions for maximum readibility in sunlight, off for max >battery life (or just a brighter main backlight for everything--turn it up >in the sun, down indoors). ThinkPads are generally considered to have >screens that are not as bright as their competition's. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 3 22:34:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11626; Fri, 3 Nov 95 22:34:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03607; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 22:33:52 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 22:30:05 -0500 Received: from aaRS.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03204; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 22:30:03 -0500 Received: by aaRS.mit.edu (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA11792; Fri, 3 Nov 95 22:30:02 -0500 From: "Arturo J. Morales" Message-Id: <9511032230.ZM11790@aaRS.mit.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 22:30:01 -0500 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Win95: sound settings for a 750Cs? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 I'm happily running Win95 with sound on my 750Cs, but I was wondering if there are any tricks involved in optimizing the settings... Like what drivers to load, and in what order. I was also wondering if anyone has the optimized settings for running DOS programs inside a DOS box (Excuse the OS/2'ism) with sound. Any sugestions? I'm sure that my settings could be optimized, but I'm not sure how.... Thanks in advance... Art -- Arturo J. Morales (RPI '94) | art@aars.mit.edu Department of Biology | Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology http://minihelix.mit.edu/top.html | From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 4 13:20:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11668; Sat, 4 Nov 95 13:20:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01271; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:19:15 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:10:19 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00852; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:10:10 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA10756 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 17:44:49 GMT Message-Id: <199511041744.RAA10756@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip37-223-66.ibm.net(129.37.223.66) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaOPMDmb; Sat Nov 4 17:44:44 1995 From: Stephen Hosmer To: "'tp750@cs.utk.edu'" Date: Sun, 04 Nov 95 10:24:12 +0700 Reply-To: Stephen Hosmer X-Mailer: PMMail 1.5 Beta (Build 102) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: SCSI backup On Tue, 31 Oct 95 17:03:48 PST, William Ng Wrote: I am using the original Adaptec 460 PCMCIA-SCSI with an Python 4mm DAT drive and Cheyenne's Arcsolo software (actualy their 30 trial, which is available on ftp.leo.org). It works great, I think I may buy it. >I am buying a scsi adaptor for a cdrom. The scsi adaptor is >an adaptec APA-1460 pcmcia scsi2 adaptor. Is it possible to >use this adaptor with a scsi tape drive used on Sun workstations >to do backup for OS/2 and Windows (FAT)? I am not talking about >backing up over the network. I am thinking of unplugging a 8mm, >2GByte capacity tape drive which is tied to a Sun workstation >and then plug it into the pcmcia adaptor. If this is doable, what >software should I get? ____________________________ Royale Energy Inc (NASDAQ: ROYL) Stephen Hosmer hosmer@ibm.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 4 14:40:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17303; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:40:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05705; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 14:39:43 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 4 Nov 1995 14:38:10 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05600; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 14:38:06 -0500 Received: from orbit by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA16389; Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:38:03 -0800 From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Message-Id: <9511041938.AA16389@nvc.cc.ca.us> Received: by orbit.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NX3.0X) id AA02004; Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:38:02 -0800 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:38:02 -0800 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTSTEP on IBM ThinkPad 755CX (long) Organization: Napa Valley College Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I recently installed NeXTSTEP on an IBM ThinkPad 755CX, and I thought I'd write up a little review of how it went, and how I like using NeXTSTEP on it (so far). I've been using NeXTSTEP on NeXT computers since NeXTSTEP 0.9, and have been dying to get a NeXTSTEP notebook for a long time. The ThinkPad has a 75mhz Pentium, 800x600x16bit LCD, 40megs of RAM, a Toshiba 1.3gig HD, a Xircom IIps PS-CE2-10BC (UTP/BNC), and Adaptec 1460 SlimSCSI. I've also got a 540meg HD with Win95 on it. I decided to install via SCSI, instead of doing it over the network, based on previous experiences with both types of installations on desktop machines. It took a bit of struggling to figure out that I needed *two* PCMCIA drivers, one for the PCMCIA bus, and the other for the Intel 82365 chipset that drives the PCMCIA. After figuring that out, NeXTSTEP finally noticed I had a SCSI card, and was able to boot up off the CD. I wanted to dedicate the *entire* drive to NeXTSTEP (after all, when I want DOS/Windows, I'll put in the other HD). When it gave me some options about making DOS partitions and what not, I told it to use the entire drive for NeXTSTEP (I'd really like to make 3 NeXTSTEP partitions, but I don't think that's possible). After completing the installation, and trying to reboot, the computer was unable to boot off the drive. NeXTSTEP had done a raw install, and had used every single sector, including sectors normally used for the DOS partitioning scheme. Unfortunately, the BIOS in the ThinkPad can only boot by using the DOS partitioning scheme. I went ahead and rebooted off the CD, and reinstalled NeXTSTEP again, this time going into the advanced options and making a single NeXTSTEP partition using the menu the CD gives you. After reinstalling, it still wouldn't boot. NeXTSTEP had decided that since there was only a single partition, and it was dedicated to NeXTSTEP, it would again raw format the drive. I rebooted once again off the CD, and this time caved and made both a NeXTSTEP partition *and* a DOS partition. I made the DOS partition very tiny (only 2 megs), because I have no intention of putting DOS on that drive. After doing the install this time, the drive was finally bootable. After the CD finished installing, and rebooted the computer, it came up, and of course asked me to insert the floppy that had several drivers that were not on the CD (ones relating to the PCMCIA and EIDE). Unfortunately, it only remembered 3 of the 4 drivers I had loaded from floppy, the EIDE, Adaptec SlimSCSI, and one of the PCMCIA drivers. So after it booted up a ways, it freaked out because it couldn't find the CD drive that it wanted to mount and finish up installation, and went into single-user mode. I ignored its problem and just exited the shell, so that it would continue to boot up. When I got NeXTSTEP booted up, and had gotten through Configure the first time, and had finally been able to login, I was able to use Configure to load the rest of the drivers from floppy, so it could locate the SCSI card again. I was then able to reboot and install the rest of the packages from the CD. I was actually impressed with the speed of the video under NeXTSTEP. The computer came with Win3.1 pre-installed, and running 16bit under that was just fine. But I was only able to withstand Win3.1 for about a week, then I put Win95 on it. The video performance under Win95 was horrible. I was worried that maybe the video really was slow. Nope, just Win95. It's plenty fast enough under NeXTSTEP. One of the things that annoys me is that when I tell NeXTSTEP to turn off the computer, it gives me the screen that says, "Please wait until it's safe to turn off your computer," and then in a bit, "It's now safe to turn off your computer," but doesn't actually turn the computer off itself. Win95 *does* turn the computer off by itself. I also really miss use of the MWave DSP. I *really* want sound better than a stupid beep, and I *really* miss the 28.8 modem that the DSP is capable of. The voice mail/answering machine/speakerphone stuff I can live without, but I wouldn't mind having them too. :-) It also looks like I'm gonna have to boot into DOS anytime I want to turn on/off the serial port or IR interface. I don't know of any way to run the ThinkPad setup utilities under NeXTSTEP. I also couldn't get any of the standby, suspend, or hibernate modes to do anything. The NeXTAnswer on installing NeXTSTEP says that only standby is supported, and closing the lid. I couldn't resist, and had to see if it would hang. It didn't at all, and closing the lid simply turns off the LCD screen. I haven't yet figured out how to get into the ROM monitor, or work with funky numpad which is overlaid on top of the regular keyboard. Overall, I'm really happy to finally have NeXTSTEP on a notebook (and can't wait to take it to work and show it off), but I'd still like to see better support of the extra ThinkPad goodies like the MWave DSP, and the ability to actually power off the computer from software. I'm also a little disappointed the video is only 12bit, rather than 16, but that seems to be a problem with *any* 16bit video card. --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 4 18:40:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03451; Sat, 4 Nov 95 18:40:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19620; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 18:40:29 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 4 Nov 1995 18:37:28 -0500 Received: from mail.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19473; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 18:37:15 -0500 Received: from icarus2.opt-sci.arizona.edu (icarus2.Opt-Sci.Arizona.EDU [150.135.52.8]) by mail.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (8.6.8.1/8.6.6c) with ESMTP id QAA27335 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 16:37:32 -0700 Received: from cobra.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (cobra.Opt-Sci.Arizona.EDU [150.135.52.21]) by icarus2.opt-sci.arizona.edu (8.6.12/b) with ESMTP id QAA12807 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 16:37:08 -0700 Received: by cobra.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (SMI-8.6/SMIb) id QAA07076; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 16:37:03 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 16:37:03 -0700 From: stu@icarus2.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (Stuart Biggar) Message-Id: <199511042337.QAA07076@cobra.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: SCSI backup X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII On Tue, 31 Oct 95 17:03:48 PST, William Ng Wrote: >I am buying a scsi adaptor for a cdrom. The scsi adaptor is >an adaptec APA-1460 pcmcia scsi2 adaptor. Is it possible to >use this adaptor with a scsi tape drive used on Sun workstations >to do backup for OS/2 and Windows (FAT)? I am not talking about >backing up over the network. I am thinking of unplugging a 8mm, >2GByte capacity tape drive which is tied to a Sun workstation >and then plug it into the pcmcia adaptor. If this is doable, what >software should I get? I have been using an IBM PCMCIA SCSI card in a 755CX with a HP1533A SCSI 4-mm DDS2 drive for backup. I have been using BakupWiz which seems to work well under Warp (I use both FAT and HPFS partitions on a 1.2 GB internal TP drive). I have also used the same software and tape drive with the Adaptech adapter and a 2.25 GB IBM SCSI HD (HPFS only) in a Dock II. Seems to work equally well. Stuart ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stuart F. Biggar Phone: (520) 621-8168 Remote Sensing Group FAX: (520) 621-8292 Optical Sciences Center University of Arizona 1600 N. Country Club Rd, Ste 100 Tucson, AZ 85716-3160 Internet: Stuart.Biggar@opt-sci.arizona.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 4 20:34:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11475; Sat, 4 Nov 95 20:34:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25420; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 20:34:09 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 4 Nov 1995 20:32:15 -0500 Received: from shellx.best.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25219; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 20:32:09 -0500 From: Received: from 206.14.89.139 ([206.14.89.139]) by shellx.best.com (950911.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH825/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA26879 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 01:32:06 GMT Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 01:32:06 GMT Message-Id: <199511050132.BAA26879@shellx.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FS: IBM 755CX Pentium ThinkPad, Dock II, extra memory To: TP750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 Hello all, I need to sell the IBM 755CX Pentium ThinkPad I purchased new only 12 weeks ago. I realize most of you are familiar with the specifications of this unit, so the following is for those of you who are not: Forsale: IBM 755CX Pentium ThinkPad Notebook Also available (with purchase of my 755CX): IBM ThinkPad Dock II (Docking Station) Extra 16Mb Memory Card What is the 755CX ThinkPad? -------------------------- This is IBM's "flagship" Pentium Thinkpad with every bell and whistle you can imagine in a high-quality, compact machine. Use it as a desktop replacement or as a portable power-house. The high-resolution, high-color screen you have to see to believe and it will run for almost 3 hours on its replaceable Lithium-ion battery. This 755CX ThinkPad was bought brand-new about 12 weeks ago, is in perfect, virtually unused condition (not a mark on it), has an absolutely perfect active matrix color LCD screen (no bad pixels), and includes everything as shipped from IBM including the original shipping carton and packing material. This is the finest quality Pentium notebook available today at an excellent price. Special features: ----------------- * New Intel Pentium 75Mhz processor with 256KB L2 cache * New high-resolution (800x600) 10.4" diagonal LCD screen * Active "Black" Matrix display with 65,536 colors * New smart Lithium-ion battery * 810Mb removable hard-disk drive * 8Mb standard memory expandable to 40Mb * removable 3.5" 1.44Mb diskette drive * Integrated speakerphone, answering machine * High-speed 28.8kbps data/fax modem (software upgradeable) * MWave DSP 16-bit audio (software upgradeable) 32-voice high-quality MIDI synthesizer Sound-blaster support Stereo waveform record and playback Business audio (text-to-speech) * High-speed Infrared ports for wireless file transfer and printing * TrackPoint III pointing device / full-featured IBM keyboard * VESA local-bus graphics * PCMCIA slots of two Type II cards or one Type III * Three-year warranty * Complete set of IBM manuals and documentation * Software includes Windows95, OS/2 Warp, Windows 3.1, IBM DOS 7.0 * 15+ software packages included: Lotus Organizer Lotus ScreenCam AlphaNet FollowFax Sedona Systems Reprint Asymetrix Compel Personal Edition Lotus cc:Mail for IBM Global Network Prodigy America Online for Windows Reuters Money Network Taxi Puma TransXit (Infrared file management) SoftNet FaxWorks Voice Audiofile TalkWorks Monologue for Windows Microsoft Video for Windows 1.1 Runtime Triton CoSession Host IBM PC Card Director Diskette Factory Online User's Guide and introductory demo Latest BIOS and software drivers How much for all this? ---------------------- I bought this 755CX brand-new about 12 weeks ago for $6,700. (I can show you the original sales receipt), but will sell it "as-new" with full warranty and all original accessories for: $4,500 ~~~~~~ If you checkout how much this ThinkPad sells for today, don't be fooled by low (<$5,000) prices. IBM is selling cheaper versions of this Pentium notebook which DO NOT include the 800x600 high-resolution Black Matrix LCD screen, Lithium-ion battery, or MWave DSP (digital sound processor). This 755CX ThinkPad is fully-loaded. Other ThinkPad accessories available with purchase of my 755CX: --------------------------------------------------------------- Simple Technology - 16Mb memory card - $500 new (cost me $700). ~~~~ Add this memory card to increase the 755CX to 24Mb. Enough memory to run even the most sophisticated programs. IBM Dock II - $400 Brand-new in box (cost me $800+). ~~~~ The IBM Dock II is a desktop expansion unit which provides the 755CX with desktop functionality without sacrificing portability. It provides (2) ISA slots, (2) additional PCMCIA card slots, onboard Adaptec SCSI controller, room for CDROM drive, extra IDE drive, or tape backup. Use the ThinkPad as a desktop system when at home and easily undock to go on the road. The best of both worlds. Call me at 408-257-5383 daily from 10am-10pm if you're interested in owning the best Pentium notebook currently available and any of these powerful accessories. Or send email to sandy@sandy.com. My reasons for selling this beautiful new ThinkPad are personal, but my loss is your gain. _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ _ ( @ @ ) _ | |------.oOOo--()--oOOo.--------| | | | Internet : sandy@sandy.com | | | |--------------- Oooo.---------| | | | .oooO ( ) | | | | ( ) ) / | | | | \ ( (_/ | | | | \_) | | | | |\ _,,,---,,_ | | | | zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_.. | | | | |,*< ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' | | | | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | | ^ Cupertino, California ^ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 5 11:35:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11452; Sun, 5 Nov 95 11:35:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19532; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 11:34:47 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 5 Nov 1995 11:31:16 -0500 Received: from sentinel.synapse.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19306; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 11:31:13 -0500 Received: from harp-08.synapse.net (harp-08.synapse.net [199.84.52.198]) by sentinel.synapse.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA01967 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 11:31:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199511051631.LAA01967@sentinel.synapse.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Patrick Hong" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 11:35:18 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Help!!!! LAN Connections Reply-To: phong@phsmc.synapse.net Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) Sorry if this is repetitive mail, but lately I've had some problems with my mail connections and I don't know if this message was properly sent to the list. Any help would be appreciated. ~~~~~~~~~~~ I would like some advice and / or hear of any experiences you have connecting your notebook to various networks. I have a Thinkpad 755CX running Windows for Workgroups 3.11 (yes, still) to remain compatible with my client. I have a 3Com Etherlink 3C589 PCMCIA network card and loading 3COM's Novell VLM drivers to connect to by client's Novell 3.12 network. My problem is that I want to connect to my P-90 computer at home to share the tape backup unit and CD-ROM drive. Most importantly, the tape back-up for obvious reasons. I have Windows for Workgroups running on the P-90 but have not installed the peer-to-peer network drivers since I don't know if this is the best way to go. One of my assoicates says the peer-to-peer services in WFWG is messy as it modifies my WIN.INI / SYSTEM.INI files and I may not be able to connect to my client's Novell server anymore. The bottom line is that I don't want messier INI files if I don't have to and would rather add another boot configuration that loads drivers outside of Windows. With this, I can isolate and manage my network configurations outside of Windows. I'm inching closer and closer to installing Lantastic on both my notebook and P-90 but would like to hear anyone's experiences on this matter. Being an independent consultant, I cannot risk any down time with my notebook and desparately need to back-up the hard drive. Thanks in advance... patrick ______________________________________________________________________ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@phsmc.synapse.net (613) 769-1544 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 5 13:33:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18911; Sun, 5 Nov 95 13:33:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25584; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 13:32:49 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 5 Nov 1995 13:26:37 -0500 Received: from cs.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25242; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 13:26:35 -0500 Received: from jones.cs.brown.edu (jones.cs.brown.edu [128.148.38.144]) by cs.brown.edu (8.6.10/Bullwinkle1.1) with ESMTP id NAA18430 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 13:26:33 -0500 From: Sridhar Ramaswamy Received: (sr@localhost) by jones.cs.brown.edu (8.6.9/BrownCS1.0) id NAA00778 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 13:26:30 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 13:26:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199511051826.NAA00778@jones.cs.brown.edu> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: linux on thinkpad 755cx Whew, I finally have linux running halfway decently on my thinkpad. (description of my long saga coming soon!) Most things are working fine (network, pcmcia support, dock ii recognition, X), thanks to the many fine hints that I have gotten on this list! I have a problem with the mwave modem, however. I run linux by booting off a dos floppy which goes through the 1. ps2 mode3x on; 2. mwgames on 3. mwmodem on routine before loading linux with loadlin. Everything is fine here, except that the modem doesn't seem to work. cu complains that /dev/modem (linked to /dev/cua1) is already in use. A look at the usual lock directories doesn't show anything (/var/spool/locks & /var/spool/uucp). I am stuck. Am I missing something obvious? Any and all hints will be greatly appreciated. Many thanks, --Sridhar PS: I also just tried minicom (since cu is supposed to be buggy and it has the same problem). From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 5 14:37:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23304; Sun, 5 Nov 95 14:37:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29153; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 14:36:41 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 5 Nov 1995 14:34:40 -0500 Received: from ix9.ix.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28944; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 14:34:37 -0500 Received: from ix-pa1-04.ix.netcom.com by ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id LAA02447; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 11:33:58 -0800 Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 11:33:58 -0800 Message-Id: <199511051933.LAA02447@ix9.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: mhgross@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Gross Subject: Want to Trade 170 Drive Plus Cash for 340/540? Hello: I have an IBM 170MB Hard Drive in my Thinkpad 755 which I'd like to upgrade. Is anyone interested in trading my 170MB plus cash for a 340 or 540MB drive? Please advise and thanks, Michael From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 6 09:35:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09774; Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:35:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13766; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:34:42 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:31:00 -0500 Received: from alf.uib.no by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13427; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:30:57 -0500 Received: from novlpr.uib.no by alf.uib.no with SMTP (PP); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 15:30:25 +0100 Received: From EDBSENT1/WORKQUEUE1 by novlpr.uib.no via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.951106152935.480; 06 Nov 95 15:30:24 -100 Message-Id: From: Thor +ivind Jensen Organization: AORG.UIB.NO To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 15:32:30 MET Subject: The switch on the lid Reply-To: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.11a) I have a TP 750C and the tiny plastic switch that senses if the lid closes/opens are really too weak. I have now ruined no 4 ! , they just seem to fall off. Any solution ? Have IBM confessed the weakness ? Any experiences ? Thor yen jensen From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 6 11:24:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17872; Mon, 6 Nov 95 11:24:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23846; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:20:53 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:17:37 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23348; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:17:29 -0500 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa03719; 6 Nov 95 11:13 EST Received: by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (5.x/SMI-SVR4 (plus cnri and barry's mods)) id AA14407; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:12:50 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:12:50 -0500 From: Ken Manheimer Message-Id: <9511061612.AA14407@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Problems getting linux APM provisions (0.5) on thinkpad 701cs X-Mailer: VM 5.95 (beta) / Emacs 19.13 XEmacs Lucid Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Reply-To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Howdy. I'm hitting a wall applying stephen rothwell's apm patches for linux power management provisions on my thinkpad 701cs, and am wondering if any of you out there have any suggestions. (Those of you on the thinkpad mailing list not interested in linux will probably want to skip this message.) I'm working with 0.5 of his APM package, applying to 1.2.13 of the linux kernel within a Slackware 3.0 distribution. I'm getting undefined references to `_apm_bios_entry' when the kernel is linking - here's the relevant excerpt from the conclusion of the build process: ld -m elf_i386 -Ttext 0x100000 -e startup_32 arch/i386/kernel/head.o init/main.o init/version.o \ arch/i386/kernel/kernel.o arch/i386/mm/mm.o kernel/kernel.o mm/mm.o fs/fs.o net/net.o ipc/ipc.o \ fs/filesystems.a \ drivers/block/block.a drivers/char/char.a drivers/net/net.a drivers/scsi/scsi.a arch/i386/math-emu/math.a \ /usr/src/linuxelf-1.2.13/lib/lib.a -o vmlinux apm_bios.o(.text+0x2c): undefined reference to `_apm_bios_entry' apm_bios.o(.text+0x8e): undefined reference to `_apm_bios_entry' apm_bios.o(.text+0xea): undefined reference to `_apm_bios_entry' apm_bios.o(.text+0x143): undefined reference to `_apm_bios_entry' apm_bios.o(.text+0x1ba): undefined reference to `_apm_bios_entry' apm_bios.o(.text+0x75a): more undefined references to `_apm_bios_entry' follow make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1 Unfortunately, i don't have the log of line where apm_bios.c was compiled, and have no more time this weekend to probe this. I did apply the kernel patch, and deposited the apm_bios.[hc] files in the specified places. There was a glitch applying the kernel patch - two rejected spots in arch/i386/kernel/head.S, which i reconciled manually. Assuming my reconciliation was correct, i've attached my stab at a rectified patch at the bottom of this message. I'd love to get this stuff working - i've got the thinkpad running unix, and on the net, and being able to unplug it and take it with me is very appealing, but the corruption that comes with suspend (any kind of suspend, even when going to the thinkpad easy-setup menus) is a real spoiler. ken manheimer klm@cnri.reston.va.us (703) 620-8990 x259 Corporation for National Research Initiatives 1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 100 Reston, VA 22091 Here's my attempted reconciliation of head.S: *** head.S Sun Nov 5 00:45:24 1995 --- head.S.orig Wed Aug 16 14:53:26 1995 *************** *** 10,16 **** .text - #include #include #include #include --- 10,15 ---- *************** *** 339,349 **** ALIGN .word 0 gdt_descr: ! #ifdef CONFIG_APM ! .word (11+2*NR_TASKS)*8-1 ! #else ! .word (8+2*NR_TASKS)*8-1 ! #endif .long 0xc0000000+SYMBOL_NAME(gdt) /* --- 338,344 ---- ALIGN .word 0 gdt_descr: ! .word (8+2*NR_TASKS)*8-1 .long 0xc0000000+SYMBOL_NAME(gdt) /* *************** *** 360,367 **** .quad 0x0000000000000000 /* not used */ .quad 0x0000000000000000 /* not used */ .fill 2*NR_TASKS,8,0 /* space for LDT's and TSS's etc */ - #ifdef CONFIG_APM - .quad 0x00c09a0000000000 /* APM CS code */ - .quad 0x00809a0000000000 /* APM CS 16 code (16 bit) */ - .quad 0x00c0920000000000 /* APM DS data */ - #endif --- 355,357 ---- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 6 12:06:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21075; Mon, 6 Nov 95 12:06:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28975; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 12:05:31 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 12:03:30 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28777; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 12:03:26 -0500 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa07032; 6 Nov 95 11:58 EST Received: by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (5.x/SMI-SVR4 (plus cnri and barry's mods)) id AA14519; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:57:54 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:57:54 -0500 From: Ken Manheimer Message-Id: <9511061657.AA14519@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup To: ThinkPad Mailing List Cc: schmidt@cranium.mae.cornell.edu, Stephen.Rothwell@pd.necisa.oz.au Subject: Re: Problems getting linux APM provisions (0.5) on thinkpad 701cs X-Mailer: VM 5.95 (beta) / Emacs 19.13 XEmacs Lucid In-Reply-To: <9511061630.AA00453@cranium> Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Reply-To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Petran Schmidt's response, follows, was the answer to my problem. Much thanks - i figured someone out there had encounted this, and it's very cool that these mailing lists and help groups give us (me!) access to the answers! Here's petran's response: From: Petran Schmidt Message-Id: <9511061630.AA00453@cranium> Subject: linux APM To: klm@CNRI.Reston.Va.US Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:30:23 -0500 (EST) I had a similar problem, and wrote Stephen Rothwell (the original APM author). Here's my message to him and his response (edited). > The code gave me a linker error for symbol "_apm_bios_entry" not found. I > found the string on line 106 of apm_bios.c, and figured that possibly the > first underscore was not necessary with my compiler and saw that the only > thing that I could find that this could be referencing is the variable > apm_bios_entry declared later in the same file: > > apm_bios.c:106: "lcall %%cs:_apm_bios_entry\n\t" \ > apm_bios.c:189:} apm_bios_entry; > > after changing line 106 to: > apm_bios.c:106: "lcall %%cs:apm_bios_entry\n\t" \ > > I compiled it and it compiled without errors. I thought that I'd see if you > had some insight into this before I load the kernel. I've been scanning the > newsgroups for a discussion of this, and haven't found any. Am I the only > person to experience this problem? Am I missing a compiler flag? This is caused because you are compiling the kernel in ELF which does not use the leading underscore on external symbol names. You have made the correct change, and it should work. Others have experieneced this problem. I suggest that you subscribe to the linux-apm mailing list at vger.rutgers.edu as further announcements/discussion will occur there. I have handed APM stuff over to Rik Faith (at least temporarily). He has made a version for the 1.3.x kernels and is attempting to get it into the kernel proper. ---------------------------------------------------------------- I hope that this is helpful. -Peter Schmidt From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 6 14:39:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00106; Mon, 6 Nov 95 14:39:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12227; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 14:33:54 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 14:25:56 -0500 Received: from sgigate.sgi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11090; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 14:25:39 -0500 Received: from palladium.corp.sgi.com by sgigate.sgi.com via ESMTP (950911.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH825/940406.SGI) id LAA14533; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:25:29 -0800 Received: from gateway-1.wti.com by palladium.corp.sgi.com via ESMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/911001.SGI) id LAA27803; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:25:27 -0800 Received: by gateway-1.wti.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA17119; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 08:12:35 -0800 Received: from newt.alias.com(192.75.92.173) by gateway-1.wti.com via smap (V1.3) id sma017025; Mon Nov 6 07:16:55 1995 Received: by newt.alias.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA06871; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 10:16:17 -0500 From: "Eugene Fiume" Message-Id: <9511061016.ZM6869@newt.alias.com> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 10:16:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: Randal Whittle "Re: BlackMatrix TFT Displays--Can you See them Outside or not?" (Nov 3, 5:01pm) References: <199511032201.OAA27488@aludra.usc.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: Randal Whittle , tedf@cadence.com (Ted Frederick) Subject: Re: BlackMatrix TFT Displays--Can you See them Outside or not? Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Nevertheless, why not a secondary backlight? Could be turned on > in bright conditions for maximum readibility in sunlight, off for max > battery life (or just a brighter main backlight for everything--turn it up > in the sun, down indoors). ThinkPads are generally considered to have > screens that are not as bright as their competition's. If IBM and product reviewers don't know enough to turn their screens to maximum brightness under battery power, then that's their problem. As a graphics person who turns out the lights in his office to get better preceived dynamic range from top-of-the-line monitors, it's hard for me to believe that someone would by persuaded by commercials of real pertty people at the top of bright mountains that they can use their machines up there. I've tried to use various machines outside, but after running through hoops trying to make their screens visible, I decided there are better things to do in the sunshine. A while back someone mentioned that in a darkened room or on an darkened airplane, the screen can actually be to *bright*. I agree. Regards, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 6 15:20:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05426; Mon, 6 Nov 95 15:20:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17082; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 15:17:54 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 15:16:25 -0500 Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16858; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 15:16:18 -0500 Received: from efd.lth.se (f91el@saturnus-1 [130.235.41.11]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id VAA19812; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 21:16:01 +0100 Message-Id: <199511062016.VAA19812@kobra.efd.lth.se> To: "John H. Kim" Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu, f91el@efd.lth.se Subject: Re: Speeding up mouse in OS/" 2... | ? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 02 Nov 1995 11:41:12 EST." Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 21:15:58 +0100 From: Erik Lindahl On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, John H. Kim wrote: >> On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Erik Lindahl wrote: >> [stuff deleted] >>>Heh heh. Might I suggest you change your editor? :) Actually, I would like to change the computer... It is a power Macintosh for $xxxx that the department of physics has decided on.. It's brand new, a feels slower than my old t'pad 750C... :-) Well, as long as they have some alphas too... (using one now, better?) Anyway, regarding the mouse driver: I tried rodent, but the computer hangs on boot when trying to load the driver. It might be fixpack 12 for OS/2 troubling... Anyone using the rodent driver with a thinkpad? Regardsm Erik From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 6 18:44:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20199; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:44:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07411; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:42:48 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:40:50 -0500 Received: from ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07213; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:40:47 -0500 Received: by ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA10828; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 23:40:40 GMT Message-Id: <199511062340.AA10828@ibm.net> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 95 00:34:31 EST From: aenna@ibm.net (Alberto Enna) Reply-To: aenna@ibm.net (Alberto Enna) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Alberto Enna's PMMail v1.1 Subject: TP755CD *** Battery life *** I wish to know from anyone with the TP755CD what is the own battery life. I've setted the custom battery option, and have a duration of 140-150 minutes for battery operations. Please, can you let me know what are your performances? Many thanks on advance. Bye by Alby/Warp 755CD From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 6 18:44:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20604; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:44:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07435; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:42:54 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:39:09 -0500 Received: from firewall.nec.com.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07040; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:39:00 -0500 Received: by firewall.nec.com.au; id KAA28277; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 10:38:41 +1100 Received: from pdact.sdc.nec.com.au(147.76.64.1) by firewall.nec.com.au via smap (g3.0.1) id sma028274; Tue, 7 Nov 95 10:38:22 +1100 Received: from pdact.sdc.nec.com.au by pdact.sdc.nec.com.au with ESMTP (8.7.1) id KAA28489; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 10:34:09 +1100 (AEDT) (from sfr@pdact.sdc.nec.com.au ) Message-Id: <199511062334.KAA28489@pdact.sdc.nec.com.au> To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US From: Stephen.Rothwell@nec.com.au Reply-To: Stephen.Rothwell@nec.com.au Cc: ThinkPad Mailing List , schmidt@cranium.mae.cornell.edu Subject: Re: Problems getting linux APM provisions (0.5) on thinkpad 701cs In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 06 Nov 1995 11:57:54 -0500. <9511061657.AA14519@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Id: <28485.815700849.1@pdact.sdc.nec.com.au> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 1995 10:34:09 +1100 Sender: sfr@nec.com.au Hi Ken, Ken Manheimer writes: > Petran Schmidt's response, follows, was the answer to my problem. > Much thanks - i figured someone out there had encounted this, and it's > very cool that these mailing lists and help groups give us (me!) > access to the answers! Glad you got your problem solved! This was me: > I suggest that you subscribe to the linux-apm mailing list at vger.rutgers.edu > as further announcements/discussion will occur there. This should be the linux-laptop list (I must have been asleep :-)). Cheers, Stephen -- Stephen Rothwell Stephen.Rothwell@nec.com.au NEC Information Systems Australia Phone: +61-6-2508747 Software Development Centre Fax: +61-6-2508746 Canberra, Australia From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 6 19:04:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21543; Mon, 6 Nov 95 19:04:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08600; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 19:03:20 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 19:02:20 -0500 Received: from alpha.xerox.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08519; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 19:02:17 -0500 Received: from algonquin.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.17.149]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <16668(7)>; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 15:58:22 PST X-Sender: mdixon@kanga.parc.xerox.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Mike Dixon Subject: driver for 755CD CD-ROM under win95? Message-Id: <95Nov6.155822pst."16668(7)"@alpha.xerox.com> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 15:58:22 PST IBM's notes about installing win95 on a thinkpad state that "Windows 95 comes with a generic ATAPI CD-ROM driver and it works with the ThinkPad integrated CD-ROM." it mentions a problem with the win95 setup failing to remove the old driver, but claims that if you disable the old driver by hand and reboot, the new driver will be automatically installed. has this worked for anyone else? if i remove the old driver from my config.sys/autoexec.bat files, it boots up without installing any new drivers, leaving the drive inaccessible. if i leave them in, everything works but the system control panel/performance window says my life would be better if i gave it shiny new 32-bit drivers instead of the crufty old 16 bit drivers it's currently using. if i try to install new drivers manually, the choices i get don't include anything very plausible (i'm offered drivers for Mitsumi, MKE Panasonic, or Sony). digging a little further, the win95/thinkpad notes later talk about a problem with win95 polling the cd-rom to see if a new disk has been inserted, and the workaround steps include 4. Click on "Device Manager" tab 5. Click "+" mark on "CD-ROM" 6. Double click "TEAC CD-40E" so i guess i need the driver for a TEAC CD-40E... but from where? there's none on the win95 cd-rom. i can't find one anywhere on the net. i'm trying TEAC's BBS, but losing because it's always busy... if you're running win95 on a 755CD, and you've got a 32-bit driver for your CD-ROM, please tell me where you got it from! .mike. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 7 14:58:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12311; Tue, 7 Nov 95 14:58:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13458; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 14:56:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 7 Nov 1995 14:50:14 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12649; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 14:50:06 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Tue, 7 Nov 95 20:49:35 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: PCMCIA HDs To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 20:49:35 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text I have an old TP720 and as with all old machines the 170MB HD is too small. Who is using a PCMCIA HD? They are quite expensive hence I don't know if they are worth the money. Thanks Christoph Eyrich ---------------- eyrich@fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 7 14:58:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12316; Tue, 7 Nov 95 14:58:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13450; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 14:56:25 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 7 Nov 1995 14:46:59 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12384; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 14:46:53 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Tue, 7 Nov 95 20:45:34 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: Mail Order in the US To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 20:45:34 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text I am about to order a TP755CX in the States. Has anyone made bad experiences with PCsCompleat? Thank you Christoph Eyrich ---------------- eyrich@fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 7 17:26:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23522; Tue, 7 Nov 95 17:26:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29366; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 17:25:28 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 7 Nov 1995 17:21:50 -0500 Received: from CRABAPPLE.SRV.CS.CMU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28816; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 17:21:42 -0500 Received: by CRABAPPLE.SRV.CS.CMU.EDU id aa11553; 7 Nov 95 17:19:38 EST Newsgroups: cmu.andrew.internet.computing.tp750 Path: magma!pbrown From: "Peter F. Brown" Subject: PCMCIA SCSI, 3Com 3C589C, NT & Thinkpad Message-Id: Sender: Usenet News System Nntp-Posting-Host: magma.edrc.cmu.edu Organization: Carnegie Mellon University X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 17:18:28 -0500 Lines: 16 To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Does anyone have any experience with the above combination? I have a ThinkPad 755Cs, getting NT installed on it and I would like to have access to a SCSI card. My systems person suggested this card. Also how well do the connectors on these and othe PCMCIA cards hold up? Pete -- Peter F. Brown Email: pbrown@cmu.edu Engineering Design Research Center Phone: (412) 268-5226 Carnegie Mellon University Fax: (412) 268-5229 Hamburg Hall 1203 Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3890 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 7 17:53:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25260; Tue, 7 Nov 95 17:53:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02352; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 17:51:29 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 7 Nov 1995 17:50:34 -0500 Received: from firewall.ceco.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA02218; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 17:50:25 -0500 From: Received: from ceco.ceco.com ([130.197.8.140]) by firewall.ceco.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA29263 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 16:49:52 -0600 Received: from ccmail.ceco.com (ccmailout.ceco.com) by ceco.ceco.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13097; Tue, 7 Nov 95 16:49:20 CST Received: from ccMail by ccmail.ceco.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA815784427; Tue, 07 Nov 95 16:40:36 CST Date: Tue, 07 Nov 95 16:40:36 CST Message-Id: <9510078157.AA815784427@ccmail.ceco.com> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Using Thinkpad modems in France and Greece Greetings! I'm new to this list. I'm a senior programmer/analyst in Chicago. I have a Thinkpad 701C I just purchased that I intend to use in Europe on a trip next week. Specifically Greece and France. I know this mailing list covers 75X machines, but I imagine the modem issues are similar. I'm not worried about power source. What concerns me is that the IBM manual "dissuades" use of the internal modem in foreign countries other than Canada. I have two questions really: 1) Can anyone confirm that I will be able to use the modem in Greece and France (assuming I find an adapter for the phone jack for Greece - I just bought one for France)? 2) I've contacted the Greece consulate here in Chicago and they tell me I should have no trouble with the phone jacks as they are in fact the same as in the USA. I find this hard to believe (but shouldn't they know?), so I was wondering if anyone on this list can actually corroborate this information. If I do need to buy an adapter would I be able to find one there? Thanks for any help you can provide. Dan -- Daniel A. Kirkdorffer | "Though the course may change sometimes Email: e#kirkd@ccmail.ceco.com | rivers always reach the sea." R. Plant DanKirkd@aol.com +----------------------------------------- WWW: http://users.aol.com/dankirkd/danhome.html From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 8 12:17:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15350; Wed, 8 Nov 95 12:17:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01046; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 12:16:49 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 12:11:08 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00424; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 12:11:02 -0500 Received: from localhost by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.5/2.8Wb-ocgw) id CAA16029; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 02:10:58 +0900 Received: from ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (V1.3) id sma016022; Thu Nov 9 02:10:20 1995 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id CAA24452; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 02:10:48 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id CAA29199; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 02:10:18 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id CAA03763; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 02:10:17 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 02:09:19 +0900 Message-Id: <9511081709.AA08895@shibuya.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: self-introduction Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp Hi. Just joined the list, so thought I'd actually send a self-into like the welcome note asks. I have a 755CX with 24meg, and the other standard stuff (810m disk, 800x600, pentium). I run Linux (UNIXish OS), and also run the Japanese versions of IBM DOS 7.0 and Windows. I use a Panasonic "PD" for backup storage. Things I can be helpful with: Running Linux. Japanese stuff (if anyone cares) Things I'd like to ask about: It seems to change with the phase of the moon, but the thing gets into modes where the modem and other mwave stuff won't work after a suspend. It's currently in that mode )-: Things I'd like to get off my chest: Did they have a monkey design this thing? If not I'd like to know: * Why the earphone/mic/phone cover opens *up* so that it remains maximally in the way, and you can't see where you're plugging? * Why the phone plug has the release tab facing *up*, against the in-the-way door, so that one need's Olga Korbit's joints to unplug the phone? * Why the PC-card slot cover is designed to *require* a tool to remove? (I used some tape to make a little pull-tab) * Why the design encourages the power switch to be hit while the cover is closed? * Why there is no LCD "contrast" (or whatever) slider? * Why the keyboard "lock" is designed so that, say, someone checking out their new ThinkPad that doesn't know it's locked is still able to open it by using a bit of ummph. * Why the lid is designed to offer so little protection to the LCD when it's closed? (and why it costs $2,500 to replace the LCD when it breaks)-: Phew! I feel better. Having said all that, I love it. Jeffrey ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey Friedl Omron Corp, Nagaokakyo, Kyoto 617 Japan See my Jap<->Eng dictionary at http://www.wg.omron.co.jp/cgi-bin/j-e and http://enterprise.ic.gc.ca/cgi-bin/j-e From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 8 14:27:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23624; Wed, 8 Nov 95 14:27:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11116; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:23:08 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:21:02 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10878; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:20:53 -0500 Received: from alcor.usc.edu (whittle@alcor.usc.edu [128.125.253.169]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA28152; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:20:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by alcor.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id LAA08702; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:20:43 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511081920.LAA08702@alcor.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Using Thinkpad modems in France and Greece To: E#KIRKD@ccmail.ceco.com Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:20:43 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <9510078157.AA815784427@ccmail.ceco.com> from "E#KIRKD@ccmail.ceco.com" at Nov 7, 95 04:40:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I know this > mailing list covers 75X machines, but I imagine the modem issues are > similar. Speaking of which, as the owner of a 750C and soon-to-be owner of a 701, is there a separate mailing list for 701 owners or is there any "problem" with discussing 701 issues here on this list? I know some folks have had a problem with non 75X specific issues spoken of here (well, more like OS's). ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 8 14:51:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25391; Wed, 8 Nov 95 14:51:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14057; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:47:13 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:45:18 -0500 Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13685; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:45:14 -0500 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id NAA29732 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 13:45:04 -0600 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 13:45:04 -0600 Message-Id: <199511081945.NAA29732@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: Re: driver for 755CD CD-ROM under win95? At 03:58 PM 11/6/95 PST, you wrote: >IBM's notes about installing win95 on a thinkpad state that > "Windows 95 comes with a generic ATAPI CD-ROM driver and it works > with the ThinkPad integrated CD-ROM." > >it mentions a problem with the win95 setup failing to remove the old driver, >but claims that if you disable the old driver by hand and reboot, the new >driver will be automatically installed. > >has this worked for anyone else? if i remove the old driver from my >config.sys/autoexec.bat files, it boots up without installing any new >drivers, leaving the drive inaccessible. [snip] i do not have a 755CD, and do not if this is the problem or not, BUT i recall reading yesterday in the current PC Magazine that Microsoft Window 95 has a BUG in the ATAPI driver which made it all the way to the final release version! the article said that on new win95 CD-ROMS/floppies being stamped now have the bug fixed, but that folks who purchased win95 in the first couple weeks may have the buggy ATAPI. the article said to contact microsoft for a free ATAPI patch. (this was mentioned in the article on a review of win95 backup tape drives/software) hope this helps, Todd --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 8 15:08:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27266; Wed, 8 Nov 95 15:08:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA16200; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:06:21 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:59:11 -0500 Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15301; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:58:43 -0500 Received: from [192.70.249.32] (mac32.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA13705; Wed, 8 Nov 95 14:58:26 EST Message-Id: <9511081958.AA13705@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 16:14:01 +0100 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Admin: tp701 in group >> I know this >> mailing list covers 75X machines, but I imagine the modem issues are >> similar. > > Speaking of which, as the owner of a 750C and soon-to-be owner >of a 701, is there a separate mailing list for 701 owners or is there >any "problem" with discussing 701 issues here on this list? I know My first reaction to this is that the 701 is different enough to warrant a new group. Thinking about it a bit more though, I think the group should include all the thinkpads. Here's my reasoning. I see nothing in the new machines that would drive me to upgrade from my 750, particularly considering my bank balance. However, some of the biggest contributors to the group seem to buy at least one of the latest thing IBM puts out every time there is a new offering. As a person who consumes more information from this group than I contribute, it is well worth sorting through a little bit more irrelevant information to keep these people interested in the group. Pretty selfish, eh?:) Didn't we have a vote on this a while ago? ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 8 15:21:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27491; Wed, 8 Nov 95 15:21:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17354; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:19:20 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:16:38 -0500 Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17144; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:16:35 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id PAA22239; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:16:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199511082016.PAA22239@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu, moore@cs.utk.edu Subject: ThinkPad FAQ? (was Re: Admin: tp701 in group) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 08 Nov 1995 16:14:01 +0100." <9511081958.AA13705@gl.ciw.edu> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 15:16:24 -0500 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu At one time I wanted to restrict the discussion to a small set of thinkpad models so that we would have higher signal-to-noise ratio and less confusion. But there have been several new ThinkPad models since then, and people's interests are less likely to be confined to one particular set of machines. Besides, ther eare other ways to avoid confusion than having separate lists for each class of ThinkPad. Would anyone like to work on a general ThinkPad FAQ that listed the various models and the differences between them? We could use that as a resource to help people keep things straight when discussing how to get something to work on a particular machine. If we had such an FAQ, a pan-ThinkPad group might be workable. Keith From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 8 16:03:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00307; Wed, 8 Nov 95 16:03:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21138; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:59:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:56:16 -0500 Received: from firewall.ceco.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20767; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 15:56:12 -0500 From: Received: from ceco.ceco.com ([130.197.8.140]) by firewall.ceco.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA19204 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:55:38 -0600 Received: from ccmail.ceco.com (ccmailout.ceco.com) by ceco.ceco.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26703; Wed, 8 Nov 95 14:55:03 CST Received: from ccMail by ccmail.ceco.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA815863874; Wed, 08 Nov 95 14:36:56 CST Date: Wed, 08 Nov 95 14:36:56 CST Message-Id: <9510088158.AA815863874@ccmail.ceco.com> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Organizing mailings Far from it to be my place to comment on much of this discussion being a new member of this list, but perhaps a simple convention can be used to organize the mail received. If we came up with a set of subject keywords we could more easily distinguish incoming mail. For example "701:" or "755:" or "75X:" as a starter to the subject. One benefit would be that mail systems that you can set up scripts on (for instance I use cc:Mail "rules") can be used to classify these. In cc:Mail it is easy to set up a rule that would automatically move these items into folders based on keywords. Just a thought. And thanks to those who answered my "modem in Greece" query. Dan -- Daniel A. Kirkdorffer | "Though the course may change sometimes Email: e#kirkd@ccmail.ceco.com | rivers always reach the sea." R. Plant DanKirkd@aol.com +----------------------------------------- WWW: http://users.aol.com/dankirkd/danhome.html From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 8 16:15:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03050; Wed, 8 Nov 95 16:15:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22193; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 16:09:11 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 16:07:41 -0500 Received: from vbbuslnx1.tc.cc.va.us by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21937; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 16:07:27 -0500 Received: from vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us (vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us [164.106.215.200]) by vbbuslnx1.tc.cc.va.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA00645 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 17:56:51 -0500 Received: from SERVER1/MAILQ by vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us (Mercury 1.21); 8 Nov 95 16:09:13 +1100 Received: from MAILQ by SERVER1 (Mercury 1.21); 8 Nov 95 16:08:38 +1100 From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 16:08:38 EST Subject: DataStor HD Bracket from Internet Shopper Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us X-Confirm-Reading-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <123737F7CB7@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us> I just received the bracket someone else asked about on this list. It worked perfectly for me. When I first looked at it I was afraid it wouldn't work since it said it was for drives 350M and BELOW but it fit my 528M (Toshiba 25 something) just perfectly. What you get is a U shaped aluminum bracket with a flange on the end to support the IBM connector, just like the official IBM case. The outside of the bracket is finished in a textured off white paint and looks nice. It mounts over the top and down each side of the drive as viewed inside the computer. They even give you 4 really short screws to attach the drive to the bracket. All in all a good deal for just over half what everyone else wants for the same thing. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Engineer - Business Division - Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 8 18:36:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12861; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:36:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05931; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:34:42 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:29:32 -0500 Received: from vbbuslnx1.tc.cc.va.us by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05495; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:29:21 -0500 Received: from vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us (vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us [164.106.215.200]) by vbbuslnx1.tc.cc.va.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA01158 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 20:19:50 -0500 Received: from SERVER1/MAILQ by vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us (Mercury 1.21); 8 Nov 95 18:31:40 +1100 Received: from MAILQ by SERVER1 (Mercury 1.21); 8 Nov 95 18:31:33 +1100 From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:31:27 EST Subject: Datastor Bracket further information Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us X-Confirm-Reading-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <125D5582C24@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us> I had a couple of replies so I thought I would add this to my previous post about the datastor HD bracket. The bracket costs $53.16 if I remember correctly, plus shipping which was $3 dollars I think. I wasn't the original person that mentioned it, I just was the first, I guess, to buy one. You can get them from a web site called internet shopping network. I think the site is at www.internet.net but I won't swear to it. As far as the drive I have mounted in my bracket it is a Toshiba 528M drive. It was too thick for the original IBM drive case so it has just been in the computer loose with the cable from the original drive. Now, with this bracket, it fits perfectly. I don't remember the model number and a quick look in computer shopper didn't find it listed. I think I paid $370 several months ago for it and have been quite happy with it since I got it. Now that it has its own bracket I can put the original drive (170M) back together and use it too. Note: for people just wanting to replace their present drive Toshiba has a line of 12.7mm think drives, up t 810M, that will fit in the original IBM case. One ad in computer shopper had the 810 for $549 and the 540 for $349. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Engineer - Business Division - Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 9 06:16:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00385; Thu, 9 Nov 95 06:16:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04932; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 06:15:40 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 9 Nov 1995 06:11:50 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04718; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 06:11:46 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:11:22 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: TP FAQ etc. To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 12:11:20 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Perhaps everyone knows already about this: recently IBM has issued a couple of INF-files with technical data about hardware etc. The one about TPs is ass-tp.zip in /pub/os2_util on ftp.pcco.ibm.com The newest models are not yet covered but hopefully the files will be updated regularly. Christoph Eyrich ---------------- eyrich@fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 9 11:52:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24558; Thu, 9 Nov 95 11:52:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04927; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 11:52:20 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 9 Nov 1995 11:49:10 -0500 Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04484; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 11:49:07 -0500 Received: from oasis.vpia.uconn.edu by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 09 Nov 95 11:48:51 EST Received: from OASIS/MERCURYQ by oasis.vpia.uconn.edu (Mercury 1.21); 9 Nov 95 11:52:14 EST Received: from MERCURYQ by OASIS (Mercury 1.21); 9 Nov 95 11:51:57 EST From: "Guy Farrell" Organization: The UConn Foundation, Inc. To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 11:51:49 EST Subject: ?Info on TBA models esp. new 701? Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-Id: <19376864793@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu> As a purchase is pending, I have heard from an IBM conference rep that a new 701 model is due hence the push for sales. (And there is a warehouse full of them.) I'll be purchasing several TP701's soon. Any recommendations. They will be used for desktop/laptop with port replicators including monitor, keyboard, and mouse. The 701's are for Direcors and VPs so I'd like to accomodate them properly. Guy W. Farrell Vox: (860)486-0964 My Desk Network Coordinator, Postmaster (860)486-5000 Front Desk The UConn Foundation, Inc. (800)269-9965 Toll-free U-Box 206 Fax: (860)486-1615 Storrs, CT 06269-4190 E-mail: gfarrell@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu Computer Support for Institutional Advancement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 9 12:17:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25878; Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:17:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06935; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 12:14:07 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 9 Nov 1995 12:12:15 -0500 Received: from abaco.coastalnet.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06635; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 12:12:10 -0500 Received: from pm-mhc2-224.coastalnet.com by abaco.coastalnet.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01932; Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:11:15 EST Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:11:13 EST Message-Id: <9511091711.AA01932@abaco.coastalnet.com> X-Sender: cn2223@abaco.coastalnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: captqtrs@abaco.coastalnet.com (Capt Dick Collins) Subject: available list mail Cc: moore@cs.utk.edu Thanks for allowing us to join list group of tp750; and second mailing. We have dl the faq & 0608723.zip of past mail. All very good When & how do we obtain mail beyond the date of July 95.zip? Planning purchase of tp760cd & would like to benefit from reports of owners of this new unit, which became available 10-95. A sincere thanks for your help From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 9 14:22:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06671; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:22:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18268; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:19:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:16:29 -0500 Received: from space.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18062; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:16:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199511091916.OAA18062@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from breslau (B37AT6B-DYN-19.MIT.EDU) by space.mit.edu AA10419; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:16:12 EST X-Sender: breslau@space.mit.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 14:15:58 -0500 To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: breslau@space.mit.edu (David Breslau) Subject: Help - Will Toshiba #1924-FCV work in 750C? X-Mailer: Hi, I'm hoping to upgrade my 170Mb drive to the 540Mb of the Toshiba. Peter Borders has mentioned that the 12.7mm x 2.5" drives will fit into the original IBM case, but I want to know if anyone has actually done this, and what problems they may have had. Thanks for the help. Brief bio - I've got a 750C that I bought about 1.5 years ago. I have a 8Meg RAM upgrade for 12Meg total, and I use the machine for CAD - CAM and word processing, using WfW 3.11. I'm planning on getting a 28.8 PC Card Fax/Modem, preferably one of the new ones that will pass voice through. On my wish list is a processor upgrade - fantasy? I remember that one of my prime reasons for getting the ThinkPad was IBM's advertising that there would be an upgrade path for these machines. Has anyone checked out third party notebook upgraders? David Breslau From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 9 16:54:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16432; Thu, 9 Nov 95 16:54:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03269; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 16:50:45 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 9 Nov 1995 16:43:57 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02607; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 16:43:55 -0500 Received: from alcor.usc.edu (whittle@alcor.usc.edu [128.125.253.169]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id NAA17727; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 13:43:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by alcor.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id NAA13679; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 13:43:37 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511092143.NAA13679@alcor.usc.edu> Subject: Re: ?Info on TBA models esp. new 701? To: GFARRELL@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu (Guy Farrell) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 13:43:36 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <19376864793@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu> from "Guy Farrell" at Nov 9, 95 11:51:49 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > As a purchase is pending, I have heard from an IBM conference rep that > a new 701 model is due hence the push for sales. (And there is a > warehouse full of them.) If they have a warehouse full of them, then why am I having to wait over 2 weeks before mine even ships? I think the push for sales is an accounting thing. Namely, they are going to end the series and replace it with a new model. Hence, even if they don't have a ton of them in a warehouse, they need to sell at least a certain number of them to cover their fixed costs of designing & manufacturing these things. Anyway, my guess is that they want to squeeze every last penny out of these things before they are discontinued and the decision was made to lower the price significantly & do these promotions. Margins are of course slimmer, but the fact of the matter is they'll sell a *lot* more machines than they would have otherwise (I'm proof of that--I would *never* have bought the 701 I have coming except for the good deal). ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 9 20:50:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03915; Thu, 9 Nov 95 20:50:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22792; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 20:48:44 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 9 Nov 1995 20:45:44 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22426; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 20:45:41 -0500 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA01629; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 20:46:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 20:46:44 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: TP750 Subject: PORT REPLICATOR WARNING Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A week ago I forwarded to the list a message from someone selling port replicators for $35 each. Well, the guy was on the level - my 2 arrived today - but apparently was mistaken in identifying them. These are 700&720 replicators, totally useless with the 750 and up series. So if any of you ordered any, I'd advise you to just refuse delivery of the COD. I've mailed him and with luck he'll make good - he _did_ claim they were for the 75x series. Sorry to have pointed out a not-good deal to the list. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 10 19:09:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00146; Fri, 10 Nov 95 19:09:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01641; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 19:08:47 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 10 Nov 1995 19:03:14 -0500 Received: from ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01292; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 19:03:11 -0500 Received: by ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA13089; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 00:03:05 GMT Message-Id: <199511110003.AA13089@ibm.net> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 95 01:00:06 EST From: aenna@ibm.net (Alberto Enna) Reply-To: aenna@ibm.net (Alberto Enna) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Alberto Enna's PMMail v1.1 Subject: TP755CD : CD-Audio features under OS/2 Warp Hi all! I'm in trouble with my TP755CD while playing musical CD's under OS/2 Warp. I can't hear music , and the only way to do it is setting Digital audio option from the menu settings of CD-ROM of Multimedia folder. I've installed MWave 2.0 , and my Thinkpad is a DX4-100 with 16Mb RAM. Can somebody tell me if there is a solution or a fix to apply ? Many thanks on advance. Bye by Alby/Warp 755CD From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 10 19:10:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00157; Fri, 10 Nov 95 19:10:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01645; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 19:08:48 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 10 Nov 1995 19:03:31 -0500 Received: from ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01302; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 19:03:29 -0500 Received: by ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA14145; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 00:03:27 GMT Message-Id: <199511110003.AA14145@ibm.net> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 95 00:51:55 EST From: aenna@ibm.net (Alberto Enna) Reply-To: aenna@ibm.net (Alberto Enna) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Alberto Enna's PMMail v1.1 Subject: TP755CD : Battery duration I'm trying to restore the original capability of the NiMH battery pack of my 755CD (battery P/N 84G6440 - FRU # 851510). I read a very useful note about this procedure (under WWW.WARRIOR.COM , Notebook battery paragraph) , the main part of wich I forward here below: "Let the battery run down in the computer completely. Connect the AC adapter and fully charge the battery so the charge display reads "l 00%". With the AC adapter still connected, remove the battery for at least 30 seconds. Replace the battery and allow it to fully charge again" As I said before, I'm following this sort of TIP, and probably it's true... After the first charge/discharge cycle, I noticed a discrete increase of the battery duration, but still lower... I'm recharging again, and think to repeate it twice more, hoping to have a reasonable result. Largest amount of time I had experience on my battery is 2:30 hours, with the Power (fuel gauge) settings enabled for customized use. Can anyone with TP755CD give me notice about their power features? At least, I must say that I'm using mainly OS/2 Warp. Bye by Alby/Warp 755CD From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 12 14:20:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09756; Sun, 12 Nov 95 14:20:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11504; Sun, 12 Nov 1995 14:19:51 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 12 Nov 1995 14:11:55 -0500 Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11161; Sun, 12 Nov 1995 14:11:52 -0500 Received: by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA21836; Sun, 12 Nov 95 14:11:46 EST Message-Id: <9511121911.AA21836@gl.ciw.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 95 14:11:45 EST From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Reply-To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Victor Kress's PMMail v1.1 Subject: OS/2, PCMCIA and Hibernation In my last message, where I thanked Bob Cowles for cluing me in to the commands which allow one to switch between Lan-based and PPP-based connection without rebooting, I mentioned that my only remaining annoyance is that the PCMCIA cards had to be hot plugged to reset them after hibernation. Bob Cowles wrote back to me indicating that I shouldn't have this problem and suggesting some things to try. As it turns out, my problem is that I was still using Thinkpad Utilities Disk version 1.31. Since this time, IBM has split the PCMCIA section into a separate disk. My problem was not mentioned in the documentation for the upgrade. After confirming that I did not have one of the necessary files, Bob Cowles suggested that I download the upgrade (tppcm130.exe in the /mobiles directory at the ftp.pcco.ibm.com site). I installed this upgrade according to instructions, and the PCMCIA cards now re-initialize automaticly after hibernation. The lesson is that the IBM fix documentation is not necessarily complete. Thanks again to Bob Cowles. ________________________ Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, DC 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 13 06:35:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10584; Mon, 13 Nov 95 06:35:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA15811; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 06:29:44 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 13 Nov 1995 06:24:50 -0500 Received: from estgtw.estec.esa.nl by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA15480; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 06:24:47 -0500 Received: by estgtw.estec.esa.nl (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA26879; Mon, 13 Nov 95 12:24:37 +0100 Received: from 666.estec.esa.nl by bcops5.estec.esa.nl via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for id MAA00550; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 12:39:01 -0800 Received: by 666.estec.esa.nl with Microsoft Mail id <01BAB1C2.9C08BCA0@666.estec.esa.nl>; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 12:21:50 +-100 Message-Id: <01BAB1C2.9C08BCA0@666.estec.esa.nl> From: "demon@bcops5.estec.esa.nl" To: "'Thinkpad'" Subject: Thinkpad 750c ref. Disks. Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 12:21:45 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi.=20 My name is Damon Randall and I work for the European Space Agency in = Holland. We have a fair number of thinkpads on site (mostly 720 & = 755ce/cd) I have just received a Thinkpad 750 from a user, the hdd has been = re-formatted and their are no drivers or thinkpad specific software on = the machine at all. Does anybody know where i can get a complete set of drivers suitable for = the Thinkpad 750c and/or reference disks ? Thanks in advance for any help received... Damon Randall =09 Email: demon@bcops5.estec.esa.nl ISD Projects Department ESA Estec Noordwijk The Netherlands From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 13 11:01:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27887; Mon, 13 Nov 95 11:01:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07920; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 10:57:56 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 13 Nov 1995 10:54:55 -0500 Received: from mail.core.ntt.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07557; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 10:54:50 -0500 Received: by mail.core.ntt.jp (8.6.12/COREMAIL.7); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 00:54:39 +0900 Received: by gulag.brl.ntt.jp (8.6.12/core*brl.mx14) with TCP; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 00:54:39 +0900 Received: by will.ntt.jp (4.1/core*brl.s7) with TCP; Tue, 14 Nov 95 00:54:38 JST Message-Id: <9511131554.AA21239@will.ntt.jp> To: Thinkpad Subject: Thinkpad 750c external display interlaced? Date: Tue, 14 Nov 95 00:54:38 +0900 From: IWASAKI Yuzuru I'm using ThinkPad 750c with Warp connect. Usually I use external display at 1024x768x256 resolution. It seems the display driver came with Warp connect uses interlaced mode and the display flickeres. Is there any way or newer driver gives better feeling (non-interlaced/high refresh rate)? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 13 11:06:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28360; Mon, 13 Nov 95 11:06:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08643; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 11:04:13 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 13 Nov 1995 11:03:12 -0500 Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08492; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 11:03:07 -0500 Received: from efd.lth.se (f91el@saturnus-1 [130.235.41.11]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id RAA22310; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 17:02:55 +0100 Message-Id: <199511131602.RAA22310@kobra.efd.lth.se> To: "demon@bcops5.estec.esa.nl" Cc: "'Thinkpad'" , f91el@efd.lth.se Subject: Re: Thinkpad 750c ref. Disks. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 13 Nov 1995 12:21:45." <01BAB1C2.9C08BCA0@666.estec.esa.nl> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 17:02:52 +0100 From: Erik Lindahl Hi, You can get the english versions of all the reference disks at ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/mobiles I think that they are changing the name, so you might find it at ftp.pc.ibm.com in the future... It might be a good idea to try ftp.ibm.nl, too. I don't have the slightest idea it the site exists, or if it contains any tp-disks, but here in Sweden IBM has followed the example in the US and put their BBS on their ftp-site. The advantage is that I can get the Swedish version on this site. Otherwise I'm sure you can get the dutch versions via an IBM BBS somewhere (Amsterdam?). Regardsm Erik From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 13 14:00:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11217; Mon, 13 Nov 95 14:00:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24978; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 13:55:11 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 13 Nov 1995 13:51:13 -0500 Received: from firewall.ceco.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24383; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 13:51:06 -0500 From: Received: from ceco.ceco.com ([130.197.8.140]) by firewall.ceco.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA25079 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 12:50:27 -0600 Received: from ccmail.ceco.com ([130.197.15.200]) by ceco.ceco.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29713; Mon, 13 Nov 95 12:49:44 CST Received: from ccMail by ccmail.ceco.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA816288444; Mon, 13 Nov 95 12:45:21 CST Date: Mon, 13 Nov 95 12:45:21 CST Message-Id: <9510138162.AA816288444@ccmail.ceco.com> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Should I worry about Xray machines when travelling Ok, probably a stupid question, but my 701C laptop manual says to stay away from metal detectors. So what about airport Xray machines? Dan -- Daniel A. Kirkdorffer | "Though the course may change sometimes Email: e#kirkd@ccmail.ceco.com | rivers always reach the sea." R. Plant DanKirkd@aol.com +----------------------------------------- WWW: http://users.aol.com/dankirkd/danhome.html From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 13 14:56:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14998; Mon, 13 Nov 95 14:56:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02312; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 14:51:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 13 Nov 1995 14:44:47 -0500 Received: from mail.ucsd.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01414; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 14:44:45 -0500 Received: from conic.UUCP by mail.ucsd.edu; id LAA16507 sendmail 8.6.12/UCSD-2.2-sun via UUCP Mon, 13 Nov 1995 11:44:36 -0800 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <199511131944.LAA16507@mail.ucsd.edu> Received: from engineering/tomf by conic.loral.com (PMail+UDG PegWaf v0.31 93.10.18) id 2776 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 06:46:33 PST 8 PDT From: TOMF@conic.loral.com (Tom Franklin Tom Franklin) To: breslau@space.mit.edu (David Breslau) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 06:46:30 +0000 Subject: Re: Help - Will Toshiba #1924-FCV work in 750C? Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Organization: Loral Conic/Terracom, San Diego, CA 92123 (619) 279-0411 I have been using the Toshiba 1924FCV in my TP755C for some time now. The only thing to note is you should specify some power down time for the drive, otherwise, it will make a wierd clunking sound after each access. I think this drive uses more power and your battery life may suffer. > I'm hoping to upgrade my 170Mb drive to the 540Mb of > the Toshiba. Peter Borders has mentioned that the 12.7mm x > 2.5" drives will fit into the original IBM case, but I want to > know if anyone has actually done this, and what problems they > may have had. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 13 22:45:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17317; Mon, 13 Nov 95 22:45:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10069; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:43:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:38:10 -0500 Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09519; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:38:04 -0500 From: Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA16370 for TP750@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:37:27 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:37:27 -0500 Message-Id: <951113223722_84253864@mail06.mail.aol.com> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu, NJJimB@aol.com Subject: Advice Concerning a Docking Station for Thinkpad 755CE Hello everyone! I'm a new member to the group. Hopefully, I'm not repeating a recently discussed topic. I just received an IBM Thinkpad 755CE PC from my employer and would like to purchase a 'docking station', so that I could use a full-sized keyboard, etc., when I'm at my desk. If there is someone that has info about how to approach such a buy, I would like to hear your advice. Best wishes to all and thank you in advance for your help. ****************************************************************************** ********************* Liebe alle! Ich stelle eine Frage: ich habe einen IBM Thinkpad Notebook Computer von meiner Firma, und ich moechte eine 'Docking Station' kaufen, so dass ich eine Tastatur u.s.w. in voller Groesse auf meinem Schreibtisch benuetzen kann. Wenn es jemanden gibt, der etwas ueber solch einem Kauf weiss, moechte ich Deinen Rat erfahren. Beste Wuensche und vielen Dank im voraus. Viele Gruesse Jim Bauer, Brigantine, NJ, USA njjimb@aol.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 01:27:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27253; Tue, 14 Nov 95 01:27:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21014; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 01:27:00 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 01:23:54 -0500 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20782; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 01:23:49 -0500 Received: from Thinkpad (ts38-7.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.22.100]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA33968 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:23:46 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:23:46 -0800 Message-Id: <199511140623.WAA33968@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> X-Sender: dpark@pop.ben2.ucla.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Dennis Park Subject: Thinkpad Carrying Cases Just wanted to know where is the best (inexpensive) place to purchase carrying cases for the Thinkpad. I am particularly interested in the cases made specifically for the Thinkpad's by Port. The prices from IBM PC Direct seem rather high, $89 for the compact carrying case. Thanks, dpark@ucla.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 03:03:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00424; Tue, 14 Nov 95 03:03:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA26778; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 03:01:57 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 02:59:17 -0500 Received: from chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA26462; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 02:59:15 -0500 Received: (from steverod@localhost) by chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA14619 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 23:58:59 -0800 From: Steve Rodrigues Message-Id: <199511140758.XAA14619@chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: TP 701 Power Supplies - International Use To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 23:58:58 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone out there used a TP 701 - specifically the 701 - outside of the United States? In particular, have people used the US-standard 2-prong "travel" AC adapter outside of the States? It *looks* like it can handle it: 100-240V AC, 50-60Hz input. But I don't want to wind up with dead batteries and be 6000 miles and four weeks away from home. Also, does anyone else have and use the "worldwide AC adapter" for the 701? All the IBM literature says it is part number 85G6680 - but the physical thing that IBM gave me says "P/N 85G6670" - more terrifyingly, it has an output about 0.3A higher than what the 701 has. Anyone else seen this adapter and successfully use it? Thanks in advance, Steve -- Steve Rodrigues | Lost, yesterday, somewhere between sunrise and Expatriate Texan | sunset, two golden hours, each set with sixty UC Berkeley, Dept. of EECS | diamond minutes. No reward is offered, for they steverod@cs.berkeley.edu | are gone forever. -- Horace Mann From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 08:27:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23421; Tue, 14 Nov 95 08:27:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24928; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 08:25:59 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 08:22:32 -0500 Received: from estgtw.estec.esa.nl by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24578; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 08:22:30 -0500 Received: by estgtw.estec.esa.nl (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA29714; Tue, 14 Nov 95 14:22:27 +0100 Received: from 666.estec.esa.nl by bcops5.estec.esa.nl via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for id OAA00783; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 14:33:26 -0800 Received: by 666.estec.esa.nl with Microsoft Mail id <01BAB29C.3DE0E0A0@666.estec.esa.nl>; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 14:19:42 +-100 Message-Id: <01BAB29C.3DE0E0A0@666.estec.esa.nl> From: "demon@bcops5.estec.esa.nl" To: "'Thinkpad'" Subject: 750C & IBM High Speed Modem... Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 14:19:32 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi.. Can anyone help with this; Trying to configure thinkpad 750c with IBM PCMCIA High Speed Modem (IBM = Model Number FC3635) Can someone tell me the correct card services software for use with the = thinkpad 750c. At the moment we have the pc card director version 3.00 with Dos card = services driver 2.21 and pcmcia card services rel. 2.10 When we use the EZPLAY program the software informs me that there are = both slot 1 & 2 are empty... This is happening with any pcmcia including = IBM Ethernet cards & 3com Etherlink3 cards as well... Can anybody help? Damon Randall Email: demon@bcops5.estec.esa.nl ISD Projects Department ESA / Estec=20 Noordwijk, The Netherlands. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 13:08:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13117; Tue, 14 Nov 95 13:08:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19771; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 13:05:02 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 13:01:07 -0500 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19525; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 13:01:05 -0500 Received: from [128.120.18.126] by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.6.12/UCD3.4) id KAA24446; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 10:00:51 -0800 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 10:00:51 -0800 X-Sender: sztarkin@peseta.ucdavis.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Dennis Park , tp750@cs.utk.edu From: bktarkington@ucdavis.edu (Brian K. Tarkington) Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases Dennis, When I looked at cases a couple of years ago, those made by Port were far superior to Targus or Kensington. That price doesn't seem out of line. However, you might try Port at 800-242-3133; they offered a discount to ThinkPad owners. Brian At 22:23 11/13/95, Dennis Park wrote: >Just wanted to know where is the best (inexpensive) place to purchase >carrying cases for the Thinkpad. I am particularly interested in the cases >made specifically for the Thinkpad's by Port. The prices from IBM PC Direct >seem rather high, $89 for the compact carrying case. > >Thanks, >dpark@ucla.edu _______________________ Brian K. Tarkington University of California at Davis bktarkington@ucdavis.edu 74033.2574@compuserve.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 13:19:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13931; Tue, 14 Nov 95 13:19:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20800; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 13:16:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 13:14:52 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20476; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 13:14:42 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA28155; Tue, 14 Nov 95 10:14:07 -0800 Received: by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA00663; Tue, 14 Nov 95 10:13:50 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 10:13:48 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: "Dennis Park" Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit At 22:23 11/13/95, Dennis Park wrote: > Just wanted to know where is the best (inexpensive) place to > purchase carrying cases for the Thinkpad. I am particularly > interested in the cases made specifically for the Thinkpad's by > Port. The prices from IBM PC Direct seem rather high, $89 for the > compact carrying case. I have that case, and it is well worth the $89 IBM wants for it. Especially since you also get a little padded case for stuffing a second hard drive into. --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 15:30:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23649; Tue, 14 Nov 95 15:30:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02132; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:29:28 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:23:55 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01281; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:23:30 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Tue, 14 Nov 95 21:23:12 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: (fwd) WWW: Linux Laptop Home Page To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:23:12 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text As some people plan to run Linux on their TP75X I thought it might be useful to forward this announcement. Those already running Linux will know this page anyway. As to TPs it seems to me that there is nothing new - it's just a new address. Christoph Eyrich eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de > > Announcement > ------------ > > The Linux Laptop Home Page > ========================== > > The new Linux Laptop Home Page is a collection of pointers to > internet resources of specific interest to those who want to run the Linux > operating system on their laptop or notebook computer. It is located at: > > http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ > > Some of the information indexed from this page includes documents > that detail the setup of Linux on IBM Thinkpads, Compaq Contura Aeros, NEC > Versas, Tadpole P1000s, and Texas Instruments TravelMate 4000Ms, links to > magazines and newsletters of interest to laptop users, information about > using PCMCIA devices in Linux, information about power management, video > chipsets and X, sound cards, and more. > > Questions, comments, or suggestions should be sent to the Linux > Laptop Home Page maintainer, Ken Harker, at kharker@cs.utexas.edu. > > - --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Kenneth E. Harker kharker@cs.utexas.edu > University of Texas at Austin > Department of the Computer Sciences Amateur call: N1PVB > Taylor Hall TAY 2.124 > Austin, TX 78712-1188 USA http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/ > - --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 15:32:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24561; Tue, 14 Nov 95 15:32:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02124; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:29:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:23:04 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01233; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:23:00 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA01379; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:22:57 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:22:54 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP701 prices Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just noticed a couple ads in the NY Times for the TP701C DX2/50 with 4MB RAM, 360MB hard drive, and active matrix color for $1900-$2000. I called one place and verified the price. This may be a better deal for some of you who are looking into the IBM friend-of-an-employee offer (701C DX4/75 with 8MB RAM, 360MB hard drive, active matrix color for $2600). Does anybody know how much faster the DX4/75 (16k onboard cache) is than the DX2/50 (8k onboard cache)? I'm guessing they're both 3.3V since it's supposed to be upgradable. Other than that and the amount of standard RAM (and maximum RAM), there's no difference between these two. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 15:46:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25221; Tue, 14 Nov 95 15:46:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03539; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:42:50 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:41:53 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03448; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:41:49 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA01448; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:41:53 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:41:53 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP701 prices In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, John H. Kim wrote: > the DX2/50 (8k onboard cache)? I'm guessing they're both 3.3V since it's > supposed to be upgradable. Strike that. Not upgradable. I was confused. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 16:34:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28890; Tue, 14 Nov 95 16:34:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08043; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 16:31:20 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 16:28:49 -0500 Received: from CSD36.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07572; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 16:28:38 -0500 Received: by CSD36.CS.NYU.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA13055; Tue, 14 Nov 95 16:29:27 EST Date: Tue, 14 Nov 95 16:29:27 EST From: kedem@CSD36.CS.NYU.EDU (Zvi Meir Kedem) Message-Id: <9511142129.AA13055@CSD36.CS.NYU.EDU> To: bktarkington@ucdavis.edu Cc: dpark@ucla.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: (bktarkington@ucdavis.edu) Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases Reply-To: > > Dennis, > > When I looked at cases a couple of years ago, those made by Port were far > superior to Targus or Kensington. That price doesn't seem out of line. > However, you might try Port at 800-242-3133; they offered a discount to > ThinkPad owners. > > Brian > Port wanted MORE from me for their Thinkpad vs. non-Thinkpad case. The advantages of the Thinkpad case vs. non-Thinkpad were: a Thinkpad tag and a case for the battery. I got the non-Thinkpad version. In my opinion Port makes better cases than anybody else and I am very happy with my purchase. -- Zvi From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 18:38:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08323; Tue, 14 Nov 95 18:38:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18365; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 18:35:47 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 18:34:50 -0500 Received: from mcmail.vanderbilt.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18173; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 18:34:48 -0500 From: Received: from in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu by mcmail.vanderbilt.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA07135; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 17:36:32 -0600 Received: from ccMail by in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA816399324; Tue, 14 Nov 95 17:27:33 CST Date: Tue, 14 Nov 95 17:27:33 CST Message-Id: <9510148163.AA816399324@in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Linux and the 701 sure I have read some messages from TP 701 owners running Li nux. Well, I have been trying to get the A series of slackware to install for over a week now. I nolonger know what to try. First, I CAN get the LILO boot, and the ROOT disk with setup on it (I believe it is color). [I have been usiing mount root=/dev/fd0 and it seems to work OK. some of the FAQ say stuff about using thinkpad?? I get the impression this is for the 2.88 driveson the 755s??] What I CAN NOT do is get the silly setup to see my A series. I first tried a floppy install a feww times. It didn't seem to like my taking the ROOT disk out. So then I thought I would use the install from Hard drive option, cannot find sourse disks for A is the type of error I get. So I decided to mount the hard drive by hand first then install from mounted drive. I CAN mount my DOS partition, like mount /dev/hda1 /dos -t msdos. I can see it, ls and cd around on it, including seeing my directories a1,a2,a3,a4, and a5. But back in setup, I set the source, and install product A, and it prepa res to install and says cannot find soucre disks for A. And there I am. I hope some one who has done this before would either tell me what I am missing, Or just tell me what you did to get it loaded. Kevan P. Riley Vanderbilt University Medical Center BioMedical Computing Support kevan.riley@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu PS. I have tried all sorts of directory names, putt all 5 disks of file in one directory, put the a1-a5 directories under different directories, including an directory called 'a'. Why can I see them with ls -l and setup can't?? PSS. I love this group! It is nice to hear what others are doing, buying, trying, with the same equipment I have. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 18:38:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08330; Tue, 14 Nov 95 18:38:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18276; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 18:35:19 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 18:32:22 -0500 Received: from inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18056; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 18:32:12 -0500 Received: from inc.net by inc.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12122; Tue, 14 Nov 95 17:32:01 CST Date: Tue, 14 Nov 95 17:31:59 CST Message-Id: <9511142332.AA12122@inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: josephw@inc.net (Joseph C. Wilson) Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases >Just wanted to know where is the best (inexpensive) place to purchase >carrying cases for the Thinkpad. I am particularly interested in the cases >made specifically for the Thinkpad's by Port. The prices from IBM PC Direct >seem rather high, $89 for the compact carrying case. > >Thanks, >dpark@ucla.edu IBM's ThinkPad cases are made by Port. While the price is rather high, they are of excellent quality. I have the same one of which you speak (sorry, don;t know exact part number, but it was the $89 one!). It holds the TP in a sling so it doesn't get bounced around as much as the cases that simply strap the laptop directly to the case. It has a lot of extra space (I carry a small folio, and many, many files/papers in addition to by power brick). I particularly like the very roomy exterior pocket. Finally, the materials seem to be of a higher grade than others I have seen. Nylon, zippers, hardware appears to be of a heavier type. I had a Compaq Contura case that was pretty well shot after about a year ( I am tough on my cases), the IBM/Port case looks virtually new after 2 months of rugged use. Good luck, Joe Wilson Badger Valve & Fitting Milwaukee, WI From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 19:22:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11054; Tue, 14 Nov 95 19:22:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20927; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 19:20:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 19:19:39 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA20783; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 19:19:32 -0500 Received: from alcor.usc.edu (alcor.usc.edu [128.125.253.169]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id QAA25259 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 16:19:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by alcor.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id QAA21023 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 16:19:25 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511150019.QAA21023@alcor.usc.edu> Subject: TP 701 External Charger? To: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 16:19:25 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just curious--does anyone know if there is an external, stand-alone charging unit that charges the TP 701 batteries? I know such things existed for the 750 batteries, but I don't see anything available for the 701. Oh, and for what its worth, my 701 came yesterday. Pretty nifty-- and much more light (thank goodness). My only beef is there isn't a "real" parallel port on the damn thing--you have to connect a little adapter in order to connected a parallel cable to it. That's kinda dumb in my book... ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 21:48:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21892; Tue, 14 Nov 95 21:48:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01803; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:47:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:44:33 -0500 Received: from po7.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01520; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:44:30 -0500 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po7.andrew.cmu.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id VAA22298 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:44:24 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:44:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix16.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:42:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from unix16.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:42:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mms.4.60.Jan.26.1995.18.43.47.sun4c.411.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix16.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix16.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:42:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:42:44 -0500 (EST) From: Sang H Kim To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: screen prob on 755cs hi, I'm having problems with my thinkpad 755Cs the bottom half of the screen has multicolor vertical parallel lines i thought about having it serviced. of course i don't have any papers for that "under warranty" stuff. would any place be able to fix it? or do i have to go to "authorized IBM dealer"? tia From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 22:27:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24490; Tue, 14 Nov 95 22:27:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04713; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:26:07 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:25:18 -0500 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04488; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:25:14 -0500 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by Eisner.DECUS.Org (PMDF V4.2-12 #4291) id <01HXNE4GN0UO0010L4@Eisner.DECUS.Org>; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:25:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:25:01 -0500 (EST) From: billy@mix.com Subject: Re: screen prob on 755cs In-Reply-To: Sender: YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <816405901.409767.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Mail-System-Version: > i thought about having it serviced. > of course i don't have any papers for that "under warranty" stuff. Yea, I was somewhat surprized when I called IBM for service and they said I would have to fax them a copy of the invoice proving ownership before they'd return the computer - wasn't required to get it fixed, just to get it back. Or of course one has the option of paying for the work instead.. although there's no way the three year warranty could even be close to gone. So, I explained the Thinkpad came from them, it was coming from and going back to the same place as on the original invoice and digging up the paper copy from months ago, not to mention then having to go run it through a fax machine, seemed like a real pain compared to having IBM check its own records, which they must be doing anyway as they would hopefully be verifying the faxed in data. The guy went away to ask someone if this was ok, and it was. The point being I'd try asking IBM first - the worst that can happen is they say no. They can also look up authorized dealers in your area. Billy Y.. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 22:32:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24709; Tue, 14 Nov 95 22:32:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05209; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:31:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:31:01 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05061; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:30:57 -0500 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA24991; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:31:57 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:31:57 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: TP750 Subject: Re: Help - Will Toshiba #1924-FCV work in 750C? In-Reply-To: <199511131944.LAA16507@mail.ucsd.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 13 Nov 1995, Tom Franklin Tom Franklin wrote: > I have been using the Toshiba 1924FCV in my TP755C for some time now. Note to all - there is an FC model - no V! It is NOT slimline, but is instead 19mm - too high! From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 22:34:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24738; Tue, 14 Nov 95 22:34:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05411; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:33:59 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:33:28 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05323; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:33:20 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id TAA13930; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 19:33:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 19:33:14 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: hello all ! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i just bought a 755cx and a dock station II and am trying like the dickens to set the thing up, but so far have had not had too much luck. i popped a second ide drive into the dock II ide cable and tried to get into the bios setting in order to attach it. holding down the F1 key on boot, i got a menu with a bunch of icons and a little flighty bird. the documentation did not help. i tried clicking on HDD-2 and it was added to one of the numbered squares, but upon restart, it still was not recognized. overall, i am miffed. where are all the numbers that a typical bios will show you in order to tune your machine ? like being able to disable shadowing of bios ram, disabling test of memory on reboot ? anything ? any help would be REALLY appreciated. doug From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 22:39:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25397; Tue, 14 Nov 95 22:39:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05793; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:38:09 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:37:39 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05727; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:37:36 -0500 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA25493; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:38:40 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:38:39 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside To: "Joseph C. Wilson" Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases In-Reply-To: <9511142332.AA12122@inc.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I feel so low-tech. I keep my pad in my Wired messanger bag. No padding, no straps, no compartments. Lotsa other room for my papers, pens, magazines, cell phone, juggling balls, digital address book, checkbook, cigar cutter & lighter, condoms, eyeglasses, earplugs, sugar-free gum and little cassette-tape-rolling phone cord. I find the 'pad to be sufficiently sturdy that I don't feel like I need padding. Now, I don't check it when flying or drop it, but it _is_ in that bag _every_day_ and has been for the last 1.5 years. Course, I also painted mine, so perhaps I'm not the person to take advice from .... From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 22:44:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25728; Tue, 14 Nov 95 22:44:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06229; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:43:49 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:43:29 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06167; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:43:26 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id TAA14908; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 19:43:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 19:43:20 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: Don Whiteside Cc: "Joseph C. Wilson" , tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > I feel so low-tech. I keep my pad in my Wired messanger bag. No padding, i cant imagine a hipper thing to use to lug the thinkpad around in :) doug From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 14 23:50:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28833; Tue, 14 Nov 95 23:50:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10972; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 23:49:29 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 14 Nov 1995 23:47:36 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA10858; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 23:47:21 -0500 Received: from localhost by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.5/2.8Wb-ocgw) id NAA01704; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 13:46:58 +0900 Received: from ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (V1.3) id sma001695; Wed Nov 15 13:46:44 1995 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id NAA23036; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 13:47:13 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id NAA04956; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 13:46:42 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id NAA25157; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 13:46:39 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 13:44:59 +0900 Message-Id: <9511150444.AA16657@shibuya.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: billy@mix.com Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: billy@mix.com's message of Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:25:01 -0500 (EST) <816405901.409767.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Subject: Re: screen prob on 755cs Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp |> went away to ask someone if this was ok, and it was. The point |> being I'd try asking IBM first - the worst that can happen is they |> say no. They can also look up authorized dealers in your area. One while on a trip to The States, a few days before returning (to Japan), I opened my 755CX in horror to find a shattered LCD. I called the IBM Service number I found on their web page and explained my situation (leavig the country in a few days). There was some question about who would pay for the $2500 LCD (due to the circmustances, I thought it should be under warranty). I didn't have time to haggle much, so went with their 1-day express service. For $99 extra. They were supposed to pick it up in the morning, and have it back to me by the next afternoon. It got picked up at around 10:30 am. I was expecting a call from them in the afternoon, and by 5pm I was getting worried. But not long after, Fedex shows up with my (fixed) Thinkpad. I was stunned. I was still exepecting to discuss the warrenty with them once they were able to see it itself, and here it was fixed and returned free. I was in California. It had apparently gone right on a plane to Altlanta, LCD swapped, and right back onto a flight to Orange County. Obviously, I was/am very happy. One bad thing to say: IBM's maze of phone menus is frustrating. BTW, they never even charged me the $99. I'm still wondering if it'll show up on my credit-card bill (I authorized the charge, so would certainly not mind them taking it), but at this point I guess they just decided to give the royal treatment. Obviously, they have a customer for life. Jeffery ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey Friedl Omron Corp, Nagaokakyo, Kyoto 617 Japan See my Jap<->Eng dictionary at http://www.wg.omron.co.jp/cgi-bin/j-e and http://enterprise.ic.gc.ca/cgi-bin/j-e From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 00:28:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00270; Wed, 15 Nov 95 00:28:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14277; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 00:28:05 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 00:27:23 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14180; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 00:27:21 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA02476; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 00:27:21 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 00:27:15 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701 vs 755 graphics Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I found this on Ziff Davis' web site while looking for a comparison between DX2/50 and DX4/75 notebooks. To reiterate, the 701 uses a C&T 65545, while the 755s use the WD90C24A. Keep in mind the 701 has a 25MHz bus while a 755 w/ DX4/100 uses a 33MHz bus. What effect that has on video I don't know. Perhaps there's a hardware guru here who can answer this? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On our Graphics WinMark 95 tests, which measure graphics subsystem performance, we found that machines with C&T 65545 accelerators turned in the best results. The C&T 65545 is a 32-bit chip, so it can't match the speed of 64-bit chips found in fast desktops, but when paired with a fast CPU it still makes for a speedy graphics solution. Systems based on WD90C24A RocketChips took the second tier, coming in about 30 percent slower, on the average, than those using the C&T chips. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 01:28:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06543; Wed, 15 Nov 95 01:28:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18301; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 01:27:45 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 01:25:21 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18124; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 01:25:13 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id BAA02698; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 01:25:08 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 01:25:07 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Don Whiteside Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Don Whiteside wrote: > I feel so low-tech. I keep my pad in my Wired messanger bag. No padding, > ... Now, I don't check it when flying or drop it, but it _is_ in Heck, I *have* dropped mine. Several times. Usually from the corner of my desk (~ 3 feet up) onto a hardwood floor. I keep getting my feet tangled in the power and ethernet cables, and when I get up to leave... :) It's a 750 mono. Has held up well so far (no cracks - yet). ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 08:33:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00031; Wed, 15 Nov 95 08:33:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22347; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:31:42 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:28:59 -0500 Received: from globalvision.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22039; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:28:57 -0500 Received: by globalvision.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA27115; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:29:07 +0500 Message-Id: <9511151329.AA27115@ globalvision.net> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Jane Loyless Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:28:55 EST Reply-To: jloyless@globalvision.net Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases ** Reply to note from Don Whiteside 11/14/95 10:38pm -0500 The best thing I've found for carrying my TP and all my assorted junk is the Silicon Sports Backpack - $49.95 from Road Warrior. Jane cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 08:33:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00037; Wed, 15 Nov 95 08:33:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22351; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:31:46 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:29:11 -0500 Received: from globalvision.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22049; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:29:09 -0500 Received: by globalvision.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA27133; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:29:20 +0500 Message-Id: <9511151329.AA27133@ globalvision.net> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Jane Loyless Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:29:08 EST Reply-To: jloyless@globalvision.net Subject: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem I have a brand new Megahertz 28.8 modem that I can't get to work in my TP755CE under Warp. I've disabled the MWave modem, and when I reboot, the TP knows there's a card in the slot. But it doesn't respond to any comm program - the message says the com2 port is not active. I tried the card in a TP750CS that had a working modem (not a Megahertz, though) and got the same message about the com2 port. Is there anything else I need to do before deciding the card itself is bad? Thanks. Jane From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 10:24:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08843; Wed, 15 Nov 95 10:24:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02886; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:22:58 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:22:21 -0500 Received: from BROWNVM.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02788; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:22:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199511151522.KAA02788@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3037; Wed, 15 Nov 95 10:21:05 EST Received: from BROWNVM (NJE origin ST402711@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6216; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:21:05 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 10:17:04 EST From: Tim Johnson Subject: Re: screen prob on 755cs To: "Origin of LISTS.TP750" >> i thought about having it serviced. >> of course i don't have any papers for that "under warranty" stuff. >Yea, I was somewhat surprized when I called IBM for service and they >said I would have to fax them a copy of the invoice proving ownership >before they'd return the computer - wasn't required to get it fixed, For the record, I had my machine serviced by IBM just last month. They FedEx'ed me a pre-paid shipping container, I used it to FedEx them the machine, and they FedEx'ed it right back. No hassle, no mess, no faxing, no forms. (It came back in working condition, with updated BIOS ROM and one of those new trackpoint caps.) Just one person's experience. -Tim From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 11:29:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12729; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:29:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10416; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:27:37 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:24:57 -0500 Received: from firewall.ceco.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09992; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:24:54 -0500 From: Received: from ceco.ceco.com ([130.197.8.140]) by firewall.ceco.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA04397 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:24:21 -0600 Received: from ccmail.ceco.com ([130.197.15.200]) by ceco.ceco.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18496; Wed, 15 Nov 95 10:23:47 CST Received: from ccMail by ccmail.ceco.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA816452483; Wed, 15 Nov 95 10:07:30 CST Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 10:07:30 CST Message-Id: <9510158164.AA816452483@ccmail.ceco.com> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701C: NiCd vs. NiMH batteries I don't know if anyone will be able to respond to this before I head off to Europe in 2 hours (I leave the office in 2 hours), but I'll try anyway: I just bought a NiMH battery for my 701C. The unit originally came with a NiCd battery. The NiCd battery life was about 2 hours. I'd heard that the NiMH was significantly longer lasting (from 3 to 4 hours). Two questions: 1) when I inserted the new battery the battery status came up as 0% and 0:00 time but it had a smiley face, yet I was able to use the battery for a good hour with no problem (although the status never changed). Is this normal? 2) I swapped batteries in and out for a while and finally was able to get a reading on the status on the NiMH battery, but it only read 2:25 at 100%. When I put the NiCd in it read 16% 0:20 which seem way below what it should have read given that the battery was freshly charged and very little used if any. Is that normal? So basically do these readings occur because I'm swapping batteries and the Thinkpad is confused or do I have a problem on my hands? As I said, if anyone has any ideas I'd *really* appreciate a response asap. Thanks!!!!! Dan -- Daniel A. Kirkdorffer | "Though the course may change sometimes Email: e#kirkd@ccmail.ceco.com | rivers always reach the sea." R. Plant DanKirkd@aol.com +----------------------------------------- WWW: http://users.aol.com/dankirkd/danhome.html From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 11:34:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12876; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:34:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11036; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:33:11 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:32:08 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10906; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:32:04 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id IAA16265; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:31:49 -0800 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma016245; Wed Nov 15 08:31:43 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (pctedf.cadence.com [158.140.56.21]) by cds9258.cadence.com (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id IAA12760; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:31:41 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 08:31:41 -0800 Message-Id: <199511151631.IAA12760@cds9258.cadence.com> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Doug Fairclough From: Ted Frederick Subject: Re: hello all ! Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Hi Doug, I'm assuming you plugged in the power supply to the drive as well... You may want to call IBM Tech Support at 1-800-772-2227. They are generally pretty capable WRT installation and configuration issues. They helped me debug a DockII - Removable IDE drive problem with my 755CDV. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 11:57:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14238; Wed, 15 Nov 95 11:57:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12987; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:54:36 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:53:41 -0500 Received: from cs.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12888; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:53:38 -0500 Received: from jones.cs.brown.edu (jones.cs.brown.edu [128.148.38.144]) by cs.brown.edu (8.7.1/Bullwinkle1.1) with ESMTP id LAA11328; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:53:36 -0500 (EST) From: Sridhar Ramaswamy Received: (sr@localhost) by jones.cs.brown.edu (8.7.1/BrownCS1.0) id LAA07512; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:53:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:53:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199511151653.LAA07512@jones.cs.brown.edu> To: kevan.riley@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Linux and the 701 I struggled with this problem for a long, long time. First off, make absolutely sure that your disk directories contain exactly the right files. I had a problem because the mirror site that I got my files from stupidly compressed *all* files, including the "maketag", "tagfile.org", etc. The slakware setup program doesn't like these files being compressed. Secondly, make absolutely sure that the files that you have are correct. I would suggest running "cksum" over the files and comparing with the CHECKSUM file that comes with the slackware distribution. For more than two days, I had this mysterious problem where I would mount an external hard disk to a linux machine, copy the alskware over to it, and then try to use this disk to install on my thinkpad. But the installation would fail in weird and sickening ways. It turned out that there was bug in the linux machine I was using. Because of some problem in the file system/ networking code in 1.1.55, the binary files that I ftp'ed over would be different from the original ones. (I checked this by ftp'ing the file to the linux machine, and then ftp'ing it back to my sparc and doing a binary diff on the file.) Hope this helps. Once I had the slakware source properly set up, everything else was a dream. --Sridhar From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 12:05:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14963; Wed, 15 Nov 95 12:05:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13867; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:03:55 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:03:13 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13774; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:03:10 -0500 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa13404; 15 Nov 95 12:01 EST Received: by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (5.x/SMI-SVR4 (plus cnri and barry's mods)) id AA00598; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:01:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:01:11 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Manheimer Reply-To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US To: kevan.riley@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Linux and the 701 In-Reply-To: <9510148163.AA816399324@in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu> Message-Id: X-Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII [I'm cc'ing the list on this first response, in case anyone else is interested in this linux-on-701 discussion. However, i'd be glad to confine further followups of mine to just those people that express interest, if anyone on the general list would prefer *not* to see the ensuing discussion... Ken.] On Tue, 14 Nov 1995 kevan.riley@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu wrote: > sure I have read some messages from TP 701 owners running Li > nux. Well, I have been trying to get the A series of > slackware to install for over a week now. I nolonger know > what to try. I've gone through sorts of interesting permutations, playing with installing linux on my 701. (Started by using existing partition via umsdos install, and once i got that working, graduated to repartitioning so i could use a native ext2 fs. Still can't get lilo to work because OS/2 uses partitioning values not acceptable to lilo, but loadlin from the DOS partition is adequate, and fun...-) It's been a twisty road, but i'm not unhappy with the process, and the result is *great*. > First, I CAN get the LILO boot, and the ROOT disk with > setup on it (I believe it is color). [I have been usiing For my native-fs install i wound up having to use the slackware PCMCIA rootdisk, which has a line-oriented setup, so i could do an NFS install - slick - but i'm familiar with the umsdos rootdisk version, which has the screen-oriented color setup prog. > setup on it (I believe it is color). [I have been usiing > mount root=/dev/fd0 and it seems to work OK. some of the FAQ Did you establish that you *need* to use the 'mount root=/dev/fd0' statement?? This may be getting in the way, when you're trying to read the source dir for the a series. > mount root=/dev/fd0 and it seems to work OK. some of the FAQ > say stuff about using thinkpad?? I get the impression this > is for the 2.88 driveson the 755s??] What I CAN NOT do I did *not* have to do the 'ramdrive floppy=thinkpad' lilo directive, and in fact it sometimes got in the way. > is for the 2.88 driveson the 755s??] What I CAN NOT do > is get the silly setup to see my A series. I first tried a > floppy install a feww times. It didn't seem to like my > taking the ROOT disk out. So then I thought I would use That may well be due to the 'mount root=...' directive you gave. > for A is the type of error I get. So I decided to mount the > hard drive by hand first then install from mounted drive. I > CAN mount my DOS partition, like mount /dev/hda1 /dos -t > msdos. I can see it, ls and cd around on it, including > seeing my directories a1,a2,a3,a4, and a5. But back in > setup, I set the source, and install product A, and it prepa > res to install and says cannot find soucre disks for A. And > there I am. > [...] > PS. I have tried all sorts of directory names, putt all 5 > disks of file in one directory, put the a1-a5 directories > under different directories, including an directory called > 'a'. Why can I see them with ls -l and setup can't?? > You need to use the "already mounted directory" option, and then you need to be certain that you are specifying the right directory, which can be tricky, considering the multiple filesystems, etc. *And*, you need to *not* situtate the installation images in a directory named /linux. I used the directory /DOS/linstall, which contained a1, a2, etc (and i also did the n series, so i could use then bootstrap the net and do the rest with nfs). So i specified '/DOS/linstall' to setup, and it worked. And you need to trim out the 'mount root=...', if it is not definitely necessary. > PSS. I love this group! It is nice to hear what others are > doing, buying, trying, with the same equipment I have. Me too! But there is a problem - there's some unresolved controversy about whether it's ok to post about (1) non-75x-model thinkpads, and (2) minority os, like linux. (This is unfortunate, since this is also the only thinkpad mailing list that i've found, and likely to remain so since it fills the niche rather tidily.) In fact, there seems to be a schism there, because some of the introductory spiels acknowledge that the domain has expanded to all thinkpads, while some other spiels do not, and some people on the list seem happy to see traffic about experiences with various models, and some do *not* - hence a recent flurry or resignations, when the list got active, partly with traffic on "other" models and OS. Sigh. Anyway, keep plugging at the install, and let me know how it goes - i may recognize some problem, and have some info. ken manheimer klm@cnri.reston.va.us (703) 620-8990 x259 Corporation for National Research Initiatives 1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 100 Reston, VA 22091 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 12:06:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14979; Wed, 15 Nov 95 12:06:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13964; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:04:33 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:03:58 -0500 Received: from chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13868; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:03:56 -0500 Received: (from steverod@localhost) by chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA16885 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 09:03:52 -0800 From: Steve Rodrigues Message-Id: <199511151703.JAA16885@chiwaukum.CS.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: TP 701 Power Supplies - International Use (fwd) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 09:03:51 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Rodrigues wrote: > Also, does anyone else have and use the "worldwide AC adapter" for the 701? > All the IBM literature says it is part number 85G6680 - but the physical > thing that IBM gave me says "P/N 85G6670" - more terrifyingly, it has an > output about 0.3A higher than what the 701 has. > Anyone else seen this adapter and successfully use it? IBM PC Direct swore up and down that this part was in fact the right one, and that the parts guys just liked to play with numbers (my words, not IBM's :). I plugged it in, and the machine didn't smoke - it actually charged quite nicely. FYI, if anyone else out there worries about frying their ThinkPad. Steve -- Steve Rodrigues | Lost, yesterday, somewhere between sunrise and Expatriate Texan | sunset, two golden hours, each set with sixty UC Berkeley, Dept. of EECS | diamond minutes. No reward is offered, for they steverod@cs.berkeley.edu | are gone forever. -- Horace Mann From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 12:54:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17880; Wed, 15 Nov 95 12:54:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02084; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:13:45 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:10:17 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01338; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:10:08 -0500 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) id HAA13211; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 07:10:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199511151510.HAA13211@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 08:13:44 EST From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: dwhite@shadow.net, tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases On Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:38:39 -0500 (EST) you wrote: > >I feel so low-tech. I keep my pad in my Wired messanger bag. No padding, >no straps, no compartments. Not a good idea. Here at the law school there are many many of us using notebooks of all types. Many folks learned the hard way via cracked screens, etc. that a padded case is essential for transporting one's notebook in even a moderately rough-and-tumble environment. The somewhat expensive IBM case with the patented strap-suspension system is well worth the cost, IMNSHO. ----------------------------------- Roger J. Buffington USC Law, Class of '97 ----------------------------- AB6WR Go Trojans!! WARPing with PM-Mail | "If you run with wolves, howl like them." Old English proverb From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 13:05:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19075; Wed, 15 Nov 95 13:05:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19095; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:57:07 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:56:08 -0500 Received: from park.interport.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18920; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:56:04 -0500 Received: from interport.net (madison.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.1]) by park.interport.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA13954 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:56:01 -0500 Received: (from alster@localhost) by interport.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id MAA27926; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:31:10 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:31:10 -0500 (EST) From: aoster Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases In-Reply-To: <199511151510.HAA13211@chaph.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Roger J. Buffington wrote: > On Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:38:39 -0500 (EST) you wrote: > > >I feel so low-tech. I keep my pad in my Wired messanger bag. No padding, > >no straps, no compartments. > > Not a good idea. Here at the law school there are many many of us > using notebooks of all types. Many folks learned the hard way via > cracked screens, etc. that a padded case is essential for transporting > one's notebook in even a moderately rough-and-tumble environment. How wussy :) http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 13:06:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19080; Wed, 15 Nov 95 13:06:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19073; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:56:57 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:54:46 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18639; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:54:44 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA04670; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:54:40 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:54:39 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701 Replacement info? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've been contemplating getting a TP701 but was worried that the speed increase wouldn't justify an upgrade from my 750. On inspiration, I visited MIT's computer store and test drove the 701C DX4/75 8/360 they had on display. I was not impressed. So... has anyone heard anything about IBM's replacement for the 701? Pointers to recent weekly or monthly magazines are fine. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 14:50:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00025; Wed, 15 Nov 95 14:50:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01447; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:45:41 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:41:53 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA00855; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:41:49 -0500 Received: from alcor.usc.edu (whittle@alcor.usc.edu [128.125.253.169]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA19289 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:41:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by alcor.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id LAA16207 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:41:24 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511151941.LAA16207@alcor.usc.edu> Subject: "BlackMatrix" Screens outdoors To: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:41:23 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am happy to report to the list that although it is not particularly super outdoors, the so-called "BlackMatrix" screens are an *immense* improvement over the screen in my 750C, as far as outdoor viewing goes. In a direct comparison, both in direct sunlight and shaded outdoor light, the 750C was impossible to even *see* while the 701C was surprisingly readable. I'm quite satisfied. Now maybe I can actually go outside once in a while with this thing. ;-) ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 14:50:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00031; Wed, 15 Nov 95 14:50:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01739; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:48:02 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:47:12 -0500 Received: from shrsys.hslc.org by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01608; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:47:06 -0500 Received: by shrsys.hslc.org (MX V4.1 AXP) id 285; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:47:03 EST Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:47:02 EST From: "Dennis J. Gormley" To: jloyless@globalvision.net Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu, gormley@shrsys.hslc.org Message-Id: <009996F1.B089116F.285@shrsys.hslc.org> Subject: RE: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem > From: MX%"jloyless@globalvision.net" 15-NOV-1995 08:29:56.28 > Subj: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem > I have a brand new Megahertz 28.8 modem that I can't get to work in my > TP755CE under Warp. I've disabled the MWave modem, and when I reboot, > the TP knows there's a card in the slot. But it doesn't respond to any > comm program - the message says the com2 port is not active. I tried > the card in a TP750CS that had a working modem (not a Megahertz, > though) and got the same message about the com2 port. Is there > anything else I need to do before deciding the card itself is bad? With our 755CE, I found that in addition to disabling the MWAVE, we also had to reconfigure the ports with the utilities DSP and SERIAL found in the ThinkPad Setup program group. Hope this helps! \ Dennis J. Gormley Tel: (215) 222-1532 \\ Operations Manager Fax: (215) 222-0416 \\\\ Health Sciences Libraries Consortium Int: gormley@hslc.org \\\\\\ 3600 Market Street, Suite 550 H S L C Philadelphia, PA 19104-2646 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 14:58:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00142; Wed, 15 Nov 95 14:58:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02418; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:52:25 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:51:05 -0500 Received: from abaco.coastalnet.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02258; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:50:59 -0500 Received: from pm-mhc2-16.coastalnet.com by abaco.coastalnet.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06409; Wed, 15 Nov 95 14:50:11 EST Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 14:50:10 EST Message-Id: <9511151950.AA06409@abaco.coastalnet.com> X-Sender: cn2223@abaco.coastalnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: captqtrs@abaco.coastalnet.com (Capt Dick Collins) Subject: available list mail Cc: moore@cs.utk.edu Thanks for allowing us to join list group of tp750; and second mailing. We have dl the faq & 0608723.zip of past mail. All very good When & how do we obtain mail beyond the date of July 95.zip? Planning purchase of tp760cd & would like to benefit from reports of owners of this new unit, which became available 10-95. A sincere thanks for your help From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 15:37:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07530; Wed, 15 Nov 95 15:37:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06535; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:34:37 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:33:43 -0500 Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06431; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:33:38 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 15:33 EST From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: kensey@wired.com Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Msg of Tue, 14 Nov 1995 19:33:14 -0800 (PST) from Doug Fairclough Subject: hello all ! i popped a second ide drive into the dock II ide cable and tried to get into the bios setting in order to attach it. holding down the F1 key on boot, i got a menu with a bunch of icons and a little flighty bird. When I added a second IDE drive in my Dock II, it was not necessary to do anything with the BIOS. I just set the jumpers on the second disk to tell it that it's a slave, plug it in, and boot. It was recognized right away by all of the operating systems I use. The only thing I can think of that could have gone wrong for you is that the jumpers aren't set correctly. the documentation did not help. i tried clicking on HDD-2 and it was added to one of the numbered squares, but upon restart, it still was not recognized. The only thing that the numbered squares do is select the boot device search order. If you don't plan to boot from your second disk, there's no need to add it to this list. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 15:38:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07534; Wed, 15 Nov 95 15:38:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06406; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:32:53 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:27:56 -0500 Received: from shrsys.hslc.org by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05861; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:27:54 -0500 Received: by shrsys.hslc.org (MX V4.1 AXP) id 74; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:27:52 EST Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:27:51 EST From: "Dennis J. Gormley" To: "shrsys::gormley"@shrsys.hslc.org Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu, JLOYLESS@GLOBALVISION.NET, gormley@shrsys.hslc.org Message-Id: <009996F7.63F7EAF5.74@shrsys.hslc.org> Subject: RE: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem On the other hand (as I forgot to mention), we're running under Windows '95. When I reconfigured it we were running under PC-DOS v.whatever.came.on.the.thinkpad and Windows 3.11. I don't know how this woruld work under Warp. Maybe if you slowed to Impulse . . . . :) Dennis > From: SHRSYS::GORMLEY "Dennis J. Gormley" 15-NOV-1995 14:47:03.33 > Subj: RE: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem > > From: MX%"jloyless@globalvision.net" 15-NOV-1995 08:29:56.28 > > Subj: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem > > > I have a brand new Megahertz 28.8 modem that I can't get to work in my > > TP755CE under Warp. I've disabled the MWave modem, and when I reboot, > > the TP knows there's a card in the slot. But it doesn't respond to any > > comm program - the message says the com2 port is not active. I tried > > the card in a TP750CS that had a working modem (not a Megahertz, > > though) and got the same message about the com2 port. Is there > > anything else I need to do before deciding the card itself is bad? > > With our 755CE, I found that in addition to disabling the MWAVE, we also had to > reconfigure the ports with the utilities DSP and SERIAL found in the ThinkPad > Setup program group. > > Hope this helps! > > > \ Dennis J. Gormley Tel: (215) 222-1532 > \\ Operations Manager Fax: (215) 222-0416 > \\\\ Health Sciences Libraries Consortium Int: gormley@hslc.org > \\\\\\ 3600 Market Street, Suite 550 > H S L C Philadelphia, PA 19104-2646 > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 15 16:04:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19113; Wed, 15 Nov 95 16:04:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09737; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 16:02:01 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:59:38 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA09314; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:59:35 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA05188; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:59:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:59:26 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Randal Whittle Cc: TP Subject: Re: "BlackMatrix" Screens outdoors In-Reply-To: <199511151941.LAA16207@alcor.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Randal Whittle wrote: > super outdoors, the so-called "BlackMatrix" screens are an *immense* > improvement over the screen in my 750C, as far as outdoor viewing goes. > > In a direct comparison, both in direct sunlight and shaded outdoor > light, the 750C was impossible to even *see* while the 701C was surprisingly > readable. I'm quite satisfied. Now maybe I can actually go outside once All the more surprising since as far as I know, the 701C *doesn't* use a black matrix screen. The 701 specs on IBM's web site don't mention the word, although it's prominently included in the specs of all the 75x models which use it. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 00:11:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00209; Thu, 16 Nov 95 00:11:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19219; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 00:09:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 00:06:52 -0500 Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19117; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 00:06:47 -0500 Received: from ppp-jesse (webe-3.ppp.hooked.net [204.212.196.3]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA03366; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 21:04:01 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 21:04:01 -0800 Message-Id: <199511160504.VAA03366@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: , TP750@cs.utk.edu From: jesse montrose Subject: Re: Should I worry about Xray machines when travelling At 12:45 PM 11/13/95 CST, E#KIRKD@ccmail.ceco.com wrote: >Ok, probably a stupid question, but my 701C laptop manual says to stay away >from metal detectors. So what about airport Xray machines? Naw, don't worry about it. I was a little nervous about it, but I've sent my 755cs through many airport xray machines and metal detectors uneventfully. ____________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 01:02:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06413; Thu, 16 Nov 95 01:02:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22831; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 01:01:45 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 01:00:36 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22673; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 01:00:32 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id WAA03126; Wed, 15 Nov 1995 22:00:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 22:00:23 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: Chris Hanson Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: hello all ! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ah ! i didnt do the slave thing. but it was a fat drive anyhow (ie - would not fit into the thin slot on the front of the dock II). so i had to put it in the back area (lots of space), but the short ide cable didnt reach, so it was a pain to squirm it in, which i did, but i have subsequently pulled it out. no luck getting a SMC Elite 16 combo to slot into the dock station and get it recognized by windows 95. spent a lot of time configuring the elite 16 thru software, but the device manager would not recognize it. anyone get an ethernet card into the dock II and make it work ? doug On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Chris Hanson wrote: > Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 19:33:14 -0800 (PST) > From: Doug Fairclough > > i popped a second ide drive into the dock II ide cable and tried > to get into the bios setting in order to attach it. holding down > the F1 key on boot, i got a menu with a bunch of icons and a > little flighty bird. > > When I added a second IDE drive in my Dock II, it was not necessary to > do anything with the BIOS. I just set the jumpers on the second disk > to tell it that it's a slave, plug it in, and boot. It was recognized > right away by all of the operating systems I use. > > The only thing I can think of that could have gone wrong for you is > that the jumpers aren't set correctly. > > the documentation did not help. i tried clicking on HDD-2 and > it was added to one of the numbered squares, but upon restart, > it still was not recognized. > > The only thing that the numbered squares do is select the boot device > search order. If you don't plan to boot from your second disk, > there's no need to add it to this list. > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 03:34:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17749; Thu, 16 Nov 95 03:34:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02775; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 03:27:53 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 03:23:29 -0500 Received: from vms1.cc.uop.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02431; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 03:23:22 -0500 Received: by vms1.cc.uop.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) id 2606; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 00:22:52 PST Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 00:22:42 PST From: JOHNNY Reply-To: ggomez@vms1.cc.uop.edu To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <00999742.1BFB4896.2606@vms1.cc.uop.edu> Subject: TP750 with DOCK I I just finished getting my Dock I back from IBM after the SCS ys.... New mail on node VMS1 from MX%"klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US" (00:14:41) was fri d to ask the other fellow TP owners w/ a Dock I about their experiences with th e decent drivers for the use of an external Hard drive and the current setup wi AD. (about 260 KB/sec :( ). If anyone could help, i appreciate it a bunch... t From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 03:44:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18028; Thu, 16 Nov 95 03:44:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA03672; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 03:37:52 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 03:36:49 -0500 Received: from vms1.cc.uop.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA03464; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 03:36:43 -0500 Received: by vms1.cc.uop.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) id 214; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 00:35:45 PST Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 00:35:24 PST From: JOHNNY Reply-To: ggomez@vms1.cc.uop.edu To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <00999743.E1F5D9B6.214@vms1.cc.uop.edu> Subject: TP705 with DOCK I HI, I'm not too sure what ended up on that last message, so please excuse the garbage of that message. I screwed of OS/2 the TP trying to set up the Docking station w/ an external hard drive. Anyways... I was wondering if anyone has experience with the SCSI port on the DOCK I. The transfer rate i'm getting out of it even uder DOS is terribly slow (~260 KB/sec :( ). I download some driver that the IBM tech person said to get, but they don't work well. In order to get all 3 partitions to register under DOS/WIN i have to keep the drive off until DOS begins to boot (so i get those 2 error messages) and then turn the drive on. I get acsess to all 3 partitions, but at that slow transfer rate. Under OS/2 the transfer rate is about 670 KB/sec. I'd appreciate any info. I just got the DOCK back from IBM. Somehow i fried the I/O board and SCSI board along with the SCSI cable. Lucky it was all under warrenty :) . thanks -john From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 07:18:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00136; Thu, 16 Nov 95 07:18:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA22417; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 07:13:25 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 07:10:56 -0500 Received: from alf.uib.no by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA22300; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 07:10:53 -0500 Received: from novlpr.uib.no by alf.uib.no with SMTP (PP); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 13:10:11 +0100 Received: From EDBSENT1/WORKQUEUE1 by novlpr.uib.no via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.951116130946.384; 16 Nov 95 13:10:10 -100 Message-Id: From: Thor +ivind Jensen Organization: AORG.UIB.NO To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 13:12:54 MET Subject: (Fwd) (Fwd) TP HD problems and solutions Reply-To: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.11a) I successfully upgraded my HD for TP750 with a standard kit from the local IBM dealer, to 540MB. (an IBM OEM disk made in UK) Two experiences: *The new case was rather shabby made, in sheet metal. The new disk had a rather annoying whining noise. I concluded that the sheet metal case amplified the sound and actually managed to swith the disk over to the old original plastic case. The sound almost disappeared !!!! The problem is that the 2 fixing screws are too short for the new disk in the old case. So: the connector is not fixed to the case and I should be very careful if I have to take it out. *With the new disk I succeeded in installing WFW 3.11 and the 32-bit file system (but not 32-bit disk access). I hade to get heltp from Microsoft because the installation program did all kinds of disastrous things and ruined both Windows version. I gad to bypass al lot of things in config to make it work. *One question: What is the correct setup for graphic driver in Windows for TP 750. Now it is VGA ver 3.0 and all the old things in the old Windows directory are gone. The display seems more sluggish, have I lost something ? (some VESA or 8514 or something ??) I like to have comments on the HD setup and installation, and som help on the graphic side Thor yen jensen From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 09:54:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11221; Thu, 16 Nov 95 09:54:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04815; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 09:49:14 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 09:46:26 -0500 Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04622; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 09:46:02 -0500 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by relay-4.mail.demon.net id msg.aa20401; 16 Nov 95 14:42 GMT Received: from filct.demon.co.uk by relay-3.mail.demon.net id sg.aa06034; 16 Nov 95 14:41 GMT From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: steverod@cs.berkeley.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 701 Power Supplies - International Use (fwd) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 95 13:46:33 GMT Message-Id: <9511161346.aa25755@hipass.filct.com> The previous adapter I had had 3 part nos. In the end, we figured out that one was the thing itself, one was the front label, and the other was the back label. I wouldn't be surprised if the part number itself had a part number :-) Mike From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 11:09:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15998; Thu, 16 Nov 95 11:09:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11358; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:03:22 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:01:01 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11165; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:00:54 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra-scf2.usc.edu [128.125.73.232]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA28049; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 08:00:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA13472; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 08:00:48 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511161600.IAA13472@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem To: gormley@shrsys.hslc.org (Dennis J. Gormley) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 08:00:47 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <009996F1.B089116F.285@shrsys.hslc.org> from "Dennis J. Gormley" at Nov 15, 95 02:47:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I have a brand new Megahertz 28.8 modem that I can't get to work in my > > TP755CE under Warp. I've disabled the MWave modem, and when I reboot, > > the TP knows there's a card in the slot. But it doesn't respond to any > > comm program - the message says the com2 port is not active. I tried > > the card in a TP750CS that had a working modem (not a Megahertz, > > though) and got the same message about the com2 port. Is there > > anything else I need to do before deciding the card itself is bad? > > With our 755CE, I found that in addition to disabling the MWAVE, we also had > reconfigure the ports with the utilities DSP and SERIAL found in the ThinkPad > Setup program group. What I don't understand is this: With a software upgrade, the MWAVE can do 28.8K--so why would you want to even use the Megahertz modem? I can see it if you wanted 28.8K and your internal only did 14.4... ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 11:17:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17062; Thu, 16 Nov 95 11:17:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12381; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:10:52 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:09:18 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12031; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:09:12 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra-scf2.usc.edu [128.125.73.232]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA28726; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 08:09:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA13992; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 08:09:05 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511161609.IAA13992@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: "BlackMatrix" Screens outdoors To: jokim@tuna.mit.edu (John H. Kim) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 08:09:04 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: from "John H. Kim" at Nov 15, 95 03:59:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > super outdoors, the so-called "BlackMatrix" screens are an *immense* > > improvement over the screen in my 750C, as far as outdoor viewing goes. > > > > In a direct comparison, both in direct sunlight and shaded outdoor > > light, the 750C was impossible to even *see* while the 701C was surprising > > readable. I'm quite satisfied. Now maybe I can actually go outside once > > All the more surprising since as far as I know, the 701C *doesn't* use > a black matrix screen. The 701 specs on IBM's web site don't mention > the word, although it's prominently included in the specs of all the > 75x models which use it. Actually, I verified that it did before I bought it. I can't remember the name, but you or someone else pointed me to an IBM'er that knew about these things/was involved in their creation or manufacture. Anyway, he said that since a particular date (sometime last summer) all 701C screens were made by a particular mfgr. (whose name escapes me--I think it was DTI or something). This same mfgr. is who makes the blackmatrix screens that go into some of the 755 models and it is/was the identical screen going into the 701C. Funny thing is, the 701 apparently can do better color depth because of a different video chipset used in it. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 12:31:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21967; Thu, 16 Nov 95 12:31:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19923; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 12:30:17 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 12:28:23 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19737; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 12:28:11 -0500 Received: from localhost by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.5/2.8Wb-ocgw) id CAA11172; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 02:27:49 +0900 Received: from ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (V1.3) id sma011168; Fri Nov 17 02:27:29 1995 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id CAA18512; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 02:27:58 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id CAA15238; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 02:27:28 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id CAA20561; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 02:27:27 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Fri, 17 Nov 95 02:25:36 +0900 Message-Id: <9511161725.AA18374@shibuya.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu Cc: gormley@shrsys.hslc.org, TP750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Randal Whittle's message of Thu, 16 Nov 1995 08:00:47 -0800 (PST) <199511161600.IAA13472@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp Randal Whittle writes: |> What I don't understand is this: With a software upgrade, the |> MWAVE can do 28.8K--so why would you want to even use the Megahertz modem? I've not heard about this software upgrade. I have a 755CX with internal 14.4 mwave -- is it possible for me to upgrade? But, even if possible, I might not do it anyway. Connecting to my company (1km away), I found I'd get a dropped carrier some days not at all, and some days every three minutes or so. Since switching to a different modem (in this case, a Megahertz 14.14 PCMCIA), I've not had one single problem. The switch only happened recently, so I'd like to try it longer before pronouncing that I understand for sure, but at this point it's not looking good for the internal modem.... Jeffrey ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey Friedl Omron Corp, Nagaokakyo, Kyoto 617 Japan See my Jap<->Eng dictionary at http://www.wg.omron.co.jp/cgi-bin/j-e and http://enterprise.ic.gc.ca/cgi-bin/j-e From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 14:38:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00623; Thu, 16 Nov 95 14:38:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29719; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 14:36:47 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 14:34:17 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29417; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 14:34:12 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id LAA06810; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:34:03 -0800 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma006765; Thu Nov 16 11:33:51 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (pctedf.cadence.com [158.140.56.21]) by cds9258.cadence.com (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id LAA20381; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:33:46 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:33:46 -0800 Message-Id: <199511161933.LAA20381@cds9258.cadence.com> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp From: Ted Frederick Subject: Re: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu At 02:25 AM 11/17/95 +0900, you wrote: >Randal Whittle writes: >|> What I don't understand is this: With a software upgrade, the >|> MWAVE can do 28.8K--so why would you want to even use the Megahertz modem? > >I've not heard about this software upgrade. I have a 755CX with internal >14.4 mwave -- is it possible for me to upgrade? > There is a MWave 2.0 upgrade available at http://www.pc.ibm.com/files.html search for mwave200 -Ted From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 15:09:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06448; Thu, 16 Nov 95 15:09:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02995; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 15:07:03 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 15:05:35 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02717; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 15:05:31 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id MAA29497; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 12:04:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 12:04:42 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: NJJimB@aol.com Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu, NJJimB@aol.com Subject: Re: Advice Concerning a Docking Station for Thinkpad 755CE In-Reply-To: <951113223722_84253864@mail06.mail.aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i have had problems with my dock II. not saying you shouldnt get it, but it is not triv to plug and play with it. definitely get the cover that mounts on top of it as an option so you can put a monitor on it. if you just need to use a full sized keyboard, you dont need a docking station to do that. if you want to just have a bigger monitor, you dont need a docking station either. if you want to put a ethernet card in the isa adaptor, good fooking luck ! mixed bag. plus its so damn big a clunky. doug On Mon, 13 Nov 1995 NJJimB@aol.com wrote: > Hello everyone! > > I'm a new member to the group. Hopefully, I'm not repeating a recently > discussed topic. > I just received an IBM Thinkpad 755CE PC from my employer and would like to > purchase a 'docking station', so that I could use a full-sized keyboard, > etc., when I'm at my desk. If there is someone that has info about how to > approach such a buy, I would like to hear your advice. > > Best wishes to all and thank you in advance for your help. > > ****************************************************************************** > ********************* > > Liebe alle! > > Ich stelle eine Frage: ich habe einen IBM Thinkpad Notebook Computer von > meiner Firma, und ich moechte eine 'Docking Station' kaufen, so dass ich eine > Tastatur u.s.w. in voller Groesse auf meinem Schreibtisch benuetzen kann. > Wenn es jemanden gibt, der etwas ueber solch einem Kauf weiss, moechte ich > Deinen Rat erfahren. > > Beste Wuensche und vielen Dank im voraus. > > Viele Gruesse > Jim Bauer, Brigantine, NJ, USA > njjimb@aol.com > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 17:57:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21307; Thu, 16 Nov 95 17:57:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18865; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 17:52:48 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 17:45:54 -0500 Received: from tin by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18196; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 17:45:50 -0500 Received: from WOODS.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by tin (5.65/Monsanto1.7) id AA28858; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 16:45:07 -0600 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 16:45:07 -0600 Message-Id: <9511162245.AA28858@tin> From: snmauf@elm.monsanto.com (Simon Maufe, Monsanto CROP IT, V2K, 4-3207) To: TIN"tp750@cs.utk.edu"@cs.utk.edu Subject: please add me to tp750 email list snmauf@maple.monsanto.com Thanks ! Simon ///************************************************************************** // /// Simon Maufe ||| MAUFE@TWEETY.DIGSYS.COM // /// Daugherty Systems ||| 314-432-8200 office // /// St Louis ||| 314-257-8018 home // /// ||| 314-694-3207 client office // /// All opinions and thoughts are mine and not those of my employer or client / /// Use anything in here at your own risk \\\ \\\************************************************************************** \\ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 16 19:16:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27287; Thu, 16 Nov 95 19:16:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24627; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:15:35 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:13:56 -0500 Received: from tin by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24413; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:13:54 -0500 Received: from WOODS.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by tin (5.65/Monsanto1.7) id AA04310; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 18:09:44 -0600 Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 18:09:43 -0600 Message-Id: <9511170009.AA04310@tin> From: snmauf@elm.monsanto.com (Simon Maufe, Monsanto CROP IT, V2K, 4-3207) To: TIN"tp750@cs.utk.edu"@cs.utk.edu Subject: VESA and modem/sound questions for TP755 CSE I have a thinkpad 755 CSE (dual scan) and really like it. Question : to run my favourite game, Flight Simulator 5.1, there seem to be 2 things I can't do. 1) Can VESA be upgraded to 1.2? It is currently 1.01 I think. FS needs VESA 1.2 to run in SVGA mode. Or it has a list of displace boards, and WSC904 or whatever isn't amongst them. 2) Has anybody succeeded in linking FS to somebody else's Thinkpad computer, ideally via NULL or the IR port. At the DOS how do you tell the COM1 port to go through the IR? A buddy and I have had TranXit working from Windows. Also, has anybody had any luck communicating from with fltsim with the mwave modem? Thanks ! Simon ///************************************************************************** // /// Simon Maufe ||| MAUFE@TWEETY.DIGSYS.COM // /// Daugherty Systems ||| 314-432-8200 office // /// St Louis ||| 314-257-8018 home // /// ||| 314-694-3207 client office // /// All opinions and thoughts are mine and not those of my employer or client / /// Use anything in here at your own risk \\\ \\\************************************************************************** \\ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 17 12:45:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22340; Fri, 17 Nov 95 12:45:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27197; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 12:44:01 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 17 Nov 1995 12:37:44 -0500 Received: from sgigate.sgi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26711; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 12:37:39 -0500 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgigate.sgi.com via ESMTP (950911.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH825/940406.SGI) id JAA13032; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 09:36:14 -0800 Received: from newt.alias.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via ESMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/911001.SGI) id JAA22779; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 09:36:12 -0800 Received: by newt.alias.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA12500; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 12:35:17 -0500 From: "Eugene Fiume" Message-Id: <9511171235.ZM12498@newt.alias.com> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 12:35:17 -0500 In-Reply-To: Randal Whittle "Re: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem" (Nov 16, 11:00am) References: <199511161600.IAA13472@aludra.usc.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: Randal Whittle , gormley@shrsys.hslc.org (Dennis J. Gormley) Subject: Re: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Nov 16, 11:00am, Randal Whittle wrote: > > What I don't understand is this: With a software upgrade, the > MWAVE can do 28.8K--so why would you want to even use the Megahertz modem? > Two good reasons I can think of: (1) Getting audio while being connected at 28.8K. (2) MWAVE support under Linux or other UNIX style OS's appears problematic at best. Regards, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 17 15:33:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07968; Fri, 17 Nov 95 15:33:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13660; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 15:31:21 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 17 Nov 1995 15:27:18 -0500 Received: from lotus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12902; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 15:27:16 -0500 Received: from internet1.lotus.com (crd.lotus.com) by lotus.com (4.1/SMI-4.10801.1994) id AA16766; Fri, 17 Nov 95 15:43:21 EST Received: by internet1.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA21331; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 15:21:45 -0500 Message-Id: <9511172021.AA21331@internet1.lotus.com> Received: by Lotus (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V.02 Beta) id CDF5682D829FE4078525627700681640; Fri, 17 Nov 95 15:21:44 EST To: TP From: Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus Date: 17 Nov 95 13:59:21 EST Subject: Re: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain > [Eugene Fiume] > Two good reasons I can think of: > (1) Getting audio while being connected at 28.8K. I thought the faster 2nd generation Mwave processor was fast enough for simulatenous sound and 28.8K operation? It definitely didn't work under the initial Mwave chip from IBM's first Mwave cards. Is this under OS/2 or Windows that you can't do both at once? ken From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 17 16:23:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11207; Fri, 17 Nov 95 16:23:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19107; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 16:20:42 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 17 Nov 1995 16:19:27 -0500 Received: from sgigate.sgi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18929; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 16:19:14 -0500 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgigate.sgi.com via ESMTP (950911.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH825/940406.SGI) id NAA19359; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 13:05:59 -0800 Received: from newt.alias.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via ESMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/911001.SGI) id MAA20640; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 12:49:31 -0800 Received: by newt.alias.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA13467; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 15:48:30 -0500 From: "Eugene Fiume" Message-Id: <9511171548.ZM13465@newt.alias.com> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 15:48:30 -0500 In-Reply-To: Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus "Re: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem" (Nov 17, 1:59pm) References: <9511172021.AA21331@internet1.lotus.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus , TP Subject: Re: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Nov 17, 1:59pm, Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus wrote: > > Two good reasons I can think of: > > (1) Getting audio while being connected at 28.8K. > I thought the faster 2nd generation Mwave processor > was fast enough for simulatenous sound and 28.8K operation? > It definitely didn't work under the initial Mwave chip from IBM's > first Mwave cards. > Is this under OS/2 or Windows that you can't do both at > once? I can't be definitive that it is impossible for audio and 28.8Kbaud connections to operate simultaneously. I can say that on my 755CE under Windows 3.1, anything I have tried (e.g., Netscape bound to PPP playing an audio file) that involves both sound and modem doesn't work. I personally would be amazed if the MWAVE chip has the DSP horsepower to do both simultaneously. Regards, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 17 17:06:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14582; Fri, 17 Nov 95 17:06:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23084; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 17:04:48 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 17 Nov 1995 17:02:44 -0500 Received: from vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22975; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 17:02:41 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id RAA21086; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 17:00:27 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA3165; Fri, 17 Nov 95 17:00:50 -0800 Message-Id: <9511180100.AA3165@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id ACD78678FFAE076685256277007815CD; Fri, 17 Nov 95 17:00:49 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 17 Nov 95 16:58:59 EDT Subject: Re: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....I can't be definitive that it is impossible for audio and 28.8Kbaud connections to operate simultaneously. I can say that on my 755CE under Windows 3.1, anything I have tried (e.g., Netscape bound to PPP playing an audio file) that involves both sound and modem doesn't work......" ~~~~~ not to kick a dead horse, but i can't do it on the 755CD either. at least it's nice enough to tell you specifically that you've overloaded the dsp, instead of just locking up. but, i've heard that it can be done, so i'm putting the task before my audio guru buddies over at vocaltec next week. if we have any luck, i'll be sure to pass it on. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 17 23:13:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15405; Fri, 17 Nov 95 23:13:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16764; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 23:12:38 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 17 Nov 1995 23:08:34 -0500 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16541; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 23:08:31 -0500 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA08663 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:08:24 +1100 From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA25358; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:08:21 +1100 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:08:21 +1100 (EST) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: thinkpad backup solutions Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII wondering if anyone can suggest a good backup solution for a thinkpad. i won't specify which because i would like something as generic as possible. the following is what i am looking for (and probably so is everyone else!): 1. portable: a) small and light b) power source, with most desired at top i. draws power from thinkpad (eg, keyboard/mouse port) ii. has small/light universal power adapter iii. adapters available for different countries (110/240/etc) 2. reasonable capacity (1GB+) 3. works with dos/win(3.11)/NT/linux/unix/mac 4. not too expensive suggestions welcomed and appreciated. regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 01:32:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25198; Sat, 18 Nov 95 01:32:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25756; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 01:32:24 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 01:30:00 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25529; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 01:29:57 -0500 Received: from alcor.usc.edu (whittle@alcor.usc.edu [128.125.253.169]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id WAA24192; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 22:29:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by alcor.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id WAA28655; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 22:29:48 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511180629.WAA28655@alcor.usc.edu> Subject: Re: thinkpad backup solutions To: Alden.Klovdahl@anu.edu.au (Alden S Klovdahl) Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 22:29:48 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Alden S Klovdahl" at Nov 18, 95 03:08:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > wondering if anyone can suggest a good backup solution for a thinkpad. i > won't specify which because i would like something as generic as possible. > the following is what i am looking for (and probably so is everyone > else!): > > 1. portable: > a) small and light > b) power source, with most desired at top > i. draws power from thinkpad (eg, keyboard/mouse port) > ii. has small/light universal power adapter > iii. adapters available for different countries (110/240/etc) > 2. reasonable capacity (1GB+) > 3. works with dos/win(3.11)/NT/linux/unix/mac > 4. not too expensive I don't know that you can have both #3 and #4. ;-) Basically, if you want it to runn on any/all of the OS's you listed, then it has to be SCSI--I don't know of any other options. And if its SCSI and 1 GB+, I think you're talking about a DAT tape--pure and simple. I don't know that any of the SCSI QIC formats work on the Mac or Unix--I do know DAT works like it was made for everything. I have a DAT that does double-duty across platforms (Mac & PC) quite nicely. And Novaback for Win '95 (cheap at about $40) software works on NT as well. For the Mac, I recommend Retrospect by Dantz Development. I don't believe you'll be able to find a DAY drive that runs off the ThinkPad--in fact, you'll likely need to get a PCMCIA SCSI adapter or a parallel-port based SCSI adapter. The good news is that SCSI DAT drives have come down in price significantly over the last year or two. But you're still talking about $600 or more--perhaps more in the way of $700 or $800 since you'd need an external. But it works beautifully for me. I don't consider backup as an optional piece of equipment--its required. And SCSI DAT makes the most sense for flexibility across platforms and capacity. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 02:22:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29667; Sat, 18 Nov 95 02:22:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28503; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 02:21:35 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 02:20:42 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28418; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 02:20:39 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id CAA01686; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 02:20:35 -0500 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 02:20:34 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Alden S Klovdahl Cc: TP Subject: Re: thinkpad backup solutions In-Reply-To: <199511180629.WAA28655@alcor.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 17 Nov 1995, Randal Whittle wrote: > Basically, if you want it to runn on any/all of the OS's you > listed, then it has to be SCSI--I don't know of any other options. > > And if its SCSI and 1 GB+, I think you're talking about > a DAT tape--pure and simple. I don't know that any of the SCSI Or if you already have a network card, you can backup over a network to a SCSI device. What I do is backup essential files to a quota-less account I have on another system. Then when the sysadmin of that system (a good friend of mine who knows what I'm doing) makes a backup, he backs up my stuff too. :) This way, you can backup to a SCSI DAT drive without having to buy a SCSI PCMCIA card. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 02:22:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29673; Sat, 18 Nov 95 02:22:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28588; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 02:22:14 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 02:21:43 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28498; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 02:21:32 -0500 Received: from localhost by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.5/2.8Wb-ocgw) id QAA12366; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 16:16:21 +0900 Received: from ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (V1.3) id sma012364; Sat Nov 18 16:15:57 1995 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id QAA24409; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 16:16:27 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id QAA00935; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 16:15:56 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id QAA02603; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 16:15:52 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Sat, 18 Nov 95 16:15:50 +0900 Message-Id: <9511180715.AA00396@fiat500.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: Alden.Klovdahl@anu.edu.au Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Alden S Klovdahl's message of Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:08:21 +1100 (EST) Subject: Re: thinkpad backup solutions Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp Alden S Klovdahl writes: |> wondering if anyone can suggest a good backup solution for a thinkpad. i |> won't specify which because i would like something as generic as possible. |> the following is what i am looking for (and probably so is everyone |> else!): |> |> 1. portable: |> a) small and light |> b) power source, with most desired at top |> i. draws power from thinkpad (eg, keyboard/mouse port) |> ii. has small/light universal power adapter |> iii. adapters available for different countries (110/240/etc) |> 2. reasonable capacity (1GB+) |> 3. works with dos/win(3.11)/NT/linux/unix/mac |> 4. not too expensive You forgot: 5. also functions as a kitchen sink. 6. does windows. Seriously, though, it sounds like a tall order -- I'd guess that anything that fits those specs (at least 1-4 :-) would have to be tape-based. Personally, I wouldn't want to use tape except for backups that looked to be very long term (and I tend to use my backups often to check this or recover that). I use a Panasonic PD, which can read CD-ROMS, but can read/write CD-ROM-sized disks at CD-ROM speeds at 650 meg a pop. The problem WRT your specs is that it's not very portable -- you can carry it around, but it's clunky (mabye 2" tall, 7" wide, 14" deep). My brother uses a 1.2 gig MO drive, but I'm sure that's even bigger (and MO is apparently much slower than PD). I've seem pleanty of smaller (230meg) MO devices that would fill the rest of your parameters, though. Jeffrey ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey Friedl Omron Corp, Nagaokakyo, Kyoto 617 Japan See my Jap<->Eng dictionary at http://www.wg.omron.co.jp/cgi-bin/j-e and http://enterprise.ic.gc.ca/cgi-bin/j-e From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 04:14:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07506; Sat, 18 Nov 95 04:14:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA07066; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 04:14:05 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 04:11:41 -0500 Received: from tpone.telepac.pt by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA06845; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 04:11:33 -0500 Received: from mail.telepac.pt (webpac.telepac.pt [194.65.3.34]) by tpone.telepac.pt (8.6.12/1.0) with ESMTP id KAA02517 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 10:10:03 GMT Received: from mccord.telepac.pt (alm1_p2.telepac.pt [194.65.16.66]) by mail.telepac.pt (8.6.12/0.0) with SMTP id KAA24840 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 10:09:28 GMT Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 10:09:28 GMT Message-Id: <199511181009.KAA24840@mail.telepac.pt> X-Sender: mccord@mail.telepac.pt X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: mccord@telepac.pt (Alan McCord) Subject: Re: thinkpad backup solutions Jeffrey Friedl wrote: >Personally, I wouldn't want to use tape except for backups that looked to >be very long term (and I tend to use my backups often to check this or >recover that). I use a Panasonic PD, which can read CD-ROMS, but can >read/write CD-ROM-sized disks at CD-ROM speeds at 650 meg a pop. The >problem WRT your specs is that it's not very portable -- you can carry it >around, but it's clunky (mabye 2" tall, 7" wide, 14" deep). Does the Panasonic PD have a SCSI interface and does it come with a PCMCIA SCSI card? If not, what card are you using with it? Are you running under Win95? Is there only one model (PD?) Thanks Alan //\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\ \\ Alan McCord // Q u a n t u m R e s e a r c h L i m i t e d // R. Galileu Correia 8-7A \\ 2800 Almada // PORTUGAL \\ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 09:01:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27484; Sat, 18 Nov 95 09:01:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29017; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 09:01:24 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 08:59:22 -0500 Received: from www.ezl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28837; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 08:59:20 -0500 Received: (from krisdw@localhost) by www.ezl.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA14022; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 08:03:52 -0600 Message-Id: <199511181403.IAA14022@www.ezl.com> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.03) To: TP750 Listserve From: "Kris D. Williams" Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 09:37:10 cST Reply-To: "Kris D. Williams" Subject: 755CV video drivers under Warp I just returned my 750C and got my 755CV in replacement. What a great little box. My students love the idea and watching it work with the MindPath remote. Biggest problem is that the Western Digital drivers for the video that I have installed suck big time. I see flickers on the screen and when I look at something like the Storyboard in Freelance, I see only black thumbnails with now graphics in them. Is anybody else having similar problems and has anybody come up with a remedy. ******************************************** * Kris D. Williams email: krisdw@ezl.com * ******************************************** From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 11:15:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06425; Sat, 18 Nov 95 11:15:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06485; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 11:14:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 11:12:41 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06247; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 11:12:36 -0500 Received: from localhost by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.5/2.8Wb-ocgw) id BAA16088; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 01:07:25 +0900 Received: from ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (V1.3) id sma016086; Sun Nov 19 01:07:24 1995 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id BAA27125; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 01:07:54 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id BAA01750; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 01:07:23 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id BAA04060; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 01:07:22 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Sun, 19 Nov 95 01:07:20 +0900 Message-Id: <9511181607.AA00611@fiat500.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: mccord@telepac.pt Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Alan McCord's message of Sat, 18 Nov 1995 10:09:28 GMT <199511181009.KAA24840@mail.telepac.pt> Subject: Re: thinkpad backup solutions Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp |> Does the Panasonic PD have a SCSI interface Yup (there is also a Mac-specific interface, I believe). |> and does it come with a PCMCIA SCSI card? Nope. |> If not, what card are you using with it? I bought an Adaptec SlimSCSI PCMCIA card to use with it. |> Are you running under Win95? Good Lord, no, I run a real operating system. However, due to a technicality (i.e. my employment), I am at times forced to run DOS/Windoze. Just boot with the included driver and you've got a 650 meg drive. Insert a disk and partition/format as you like. I'm not exactly sure the driver is needed -- perhaps only for DOS/Windoze. When I run Linux, the standard SCSI and filesystem drivers have no problem recognizing the drive, whether it has a CD-ROM, DOS, or native Linux filesystem. No speical drivers were needed. |> Is there only one model (PD?) As far as I've seen, only one (external) by Panasonic, although I hear that they simply OEM the guts of the other maker's drives (there are one or two other "competing" drives, one I saw for sure being a tad smaller). The one I got cost 110,000 yen, or about US$1,100. Jeffrey ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey Friedl Omron Corp, Nagaokakyo, Kyoto 617 Japan See my Jap<->Eng dictionary at http://www.wg.omron.co.jp/cgi-bin/j-e and http://enterprise.ic.gc.ca/cgi-bin/j-e From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 13:11:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18049; Sat, 18 Nov 95 13:11:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12855; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:11:16 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:08:02 -0500 Received: from greece.elab.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12583; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:07:59 -0500 Received: (stevens@localhost) by greece.elab.columbia.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4.elab) id NAA09612; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:07:54 -0500 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:07:54 -0500 From: stevens@elab.columbia.edu (Andy Stevens) Message-Id: <199511181807.NAA09612@greece.elab.columbia.edu> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad backup solutions >wondering if anyone can suggest a good backup solution for a >thinkpad. I have tried two approaches: 1) I bought an ethernet card and backed up to my office UNIX box. The big problem was getting a good TCP/IP and NFS package for DOS/Windows. I never did find a satisfactory&cheap one (I tried shareware and IBM's package). The main drawback was that the backup was surprisingly slow, it took about an hour to xcopy my 170MB c: drive to the NFS-mounted drive on the UNIX box. I think it was mostly slowed down by the crappy TCP/IP software running under DOS. I probably should have bought some better software. Total cost: $130 for 3Com PCMCIA Ethernet board. I got the TCP/IP software for free (you can pay up to $400). Also, you need access to ample UNIX disk space and a friendly sysadmin. 2) I recently bought the IOmega 800MB Ditto external tape drive. It plugs into my parallel part. It works pretty fast, it takes about 30 minutes to back up my 170MB. It supports Win 3.1, Win 95, and OS/2. It's pretty portable too, it's a little bigger than my Panasonic CD-ROM drive. Cost: $150, plus cost of tapes ($30 for Travan 800MB tape, or $10 for 340MB 2120XL tape). I am very happy with the IOmega drive, how can you go wrong for $150? --andy From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 13:12:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18255; Sat, 18 Nov 95 13:12:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12921; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:11:42 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:11:06 -0500 Received: from greece.elab.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12820; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:11:04 -0500 Received: (stevens@localhost) by greece.elab.columbia.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4.elab) id NAA09615; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:10:56 -0500 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:10:56 -0500 From: stevens@elab.columbia.edu (Andy Stevens) Message-Id: <199511181810.NAA09615@greece.elab.columbia.edu> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: thinkpad backup solutions >|> Is there only one model (PD?) > >As far as I've seen, only one (external) by Panasonic, although I hear that >they simply OEM the guts of the other maker's drives (there are one or two >other "competing" drives, one I saw for sure being a tad smaller). > >The one I got cost 110,000 yen, or about US$1,100. Street price in NYC for the Panasonic PD drive is $650 (J&R Computer World) for internal SCSI version. --andy From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 13:20:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18284; Sat, 18 Nov 95 13:20:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13407; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:20:06 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:19:01 -0500 Received: from panix2.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13321; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:18:58 -0500 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id NAA09073; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:18:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:18:50 -0500 (EST) From: Michael MacDonald To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: 760cd delays Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I hate IBM. Why do they market computers that are not acutally available? I ordered a 760cd from PC Direct two days after it went on sale. I was told at the time that I could expect delivery in 10 days. Since then, the delivery date has been pushed back twice, and is now December 11th. I expect it to be delayed until January when I check again next week. I went through this crap before when waiting for the 755cd; I ordered one in November 1994 and received it in mid-April. All I know is that my tolerance for IBM's lies and deceit is diminishing rapidly. Why can't they be honest with their customers? Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 14:43:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25579; Sat, 18 Nov 95 14:43:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18105; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:43:25 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:40:44 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17960; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:40:37 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA00185; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:40:39 -0500 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:40:38 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Michael MacDonald Cc: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: 760cd delays In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 18 Nov 1995, Michael MacDonald wrote: > I hate IBM. Why do they market computers that are not acutally available? We've discussed this (emphasis on "cussed" :) several times in the past two years. One theory has to do with the consent decree IBM signed with the U.S. Justice Department. It prohibits them from pre-announcing products. This was in response to IBM's practice of announcing products which were nowhere near completion to discourage people from buying a competitor's product already on the market (a practice a certain software company today wields quite successfully). Anyways, the theory goes that since they can't pre-announce anything, they build a few computers, then announce and sell them before they've started mass-producing them. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 14:47:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25589; Sat, 18 Nov 95 14:47:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18439; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:46:45 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:46:10 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18370; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:46:06 -0500 Received: from localhost by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.5/2.8Wb-ocgw) id EAA17280; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 04:45:56 +0900 Received: from ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (V1.3) id sma017278; Sun Nov 19 04:45:45 1995 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id EAA27783; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 04:46:14 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id EAA02059; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 04:45:43 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id EAA05268; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 04:45:42 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Sun, 19 Nov 95 04:45:41 +0900 Message-Id: <9511181945.AA00766@fiat500.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: stevens@elab.columbia.edu Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Andy Stevens's message of Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:10:56 -0500 <199511181810.NAA09615@greece.elab.columbia.edu> Subject: Re: thinkpad backup solutions Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp |> >The one I got cost 110,000 yen, or about US$1,100. |> |> Street price in NYC for the Panasonic PD drive is $650 (J&R Computer |> World) for internal SCSI version. Tell me about it (although I quoted the price for the external, the internal one was still a lot more than $650). How much does media go for? The chepest I've seen it is about 4800 yen ~(US$48) per disk. Stores in Japan wanted about a million yen ($10,000) for a 755CX with 8/810meg. My boss had one shipped from The States for about $7k. We had to buy the Japanese DOS/Windoz extra, but still saved a lot. But then, I live in a country where a $4 apple and a $5 cup of coffee (no refills) are the norm. I recently got a juicer, and it takes about three carrots to make one glass. At my supermarket, carrots are three for $1.48. Well, at least that makes carrot juice cheaper than beer, which normally runs about $2.10 a can (in the store). This all being the case, $10k for a computer seems cheap! :-) Jeffrey ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey Friedl Omron Corp, Nagaokakyo, Kyoto 617 Japan See my Jap<->Eng dictionary at http://www.wg.omron.co.jp/cgi-bin/j-e and http://enterprise.ic.gc.ca/cgi-bin/j-e From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 14:49:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25599; Sat, 18 Nov 95 14:49:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18549; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:49:20 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:48:41 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18474; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:48:35 -0500 Received: from localhost by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.5/2.8Wb-ocgw) id EAA17300; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 04:48:26 +0900 Received: from ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (V1.3) id sma017298; Sun Nov 19 04:48:02 1995 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id EAA27800; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 04:48:31 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id EAA02063; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 04:48:00 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id EAA05289; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 04:47:59 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Sun, 19 Nov 95 04:47:58 +0900 Message-Id: <9511181947.AA00771@fiat500.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: macd@panix.com Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Michael MacDonald's message of Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:18:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: 760cd delays Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp |> I went through this crap before when waiting for the 755cd; I ordered one |> in November 1994 and received it in mid-April. Wow, me too. Sort of. I ordered it in early December, and cancled it when delayed for the umteenth time in January. At least their after-sales (if they make the sale) service is excellent. Jeffrey From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 14:57:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25884; Sat, 18 Nov 95 14:57:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19298; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:57:22 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:56:38 -0500 Received: from cln.etc.bc.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19207; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 14:56:34 -0500 Received: from sparky.etc.bc.ca by cln.etc.bc.ca for tp750@cs.utk.edu (4.1/1.39) id AA25504; Sat, 18 Nov 95 11:56:10 PST Received: from ppreside.cn.camriv.bc.ca (ppp214.dial.gov.bc.ca) by sparky.etc.bc.ca (4.1//ident-1.0) id AA12694; Sat, 18 Nov 95 11:53:24 PST Date: Sat, 18 Nov 95 11:53:16 PST Message-Id: <9511181953.AA12694@sparky.etc.bc.ca> X-Sender: ppreside@pop.etc.bc.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Michael MacDonald From: Pat Presidente Subject: Re: 760cd delays Cc: Thinkpad mailing list I can certainly appreciate your frustration as I await my 755 CDV Pentium. I've now heard January after already waithing 2 months and am thinking of getting the Dx100 version instead. So the 760s aren't the only problem. Pat At 01:18 PM 95 11 18 -0500, Michael MacDonald wrote: >I hate IBM. Why do they market computers that are not acutally available? >I ordered a 760cd from PC Direct two days after it went on sale. I was >told at the time that I could expect delivery in 10 days. Since then, the >delivery date has been pushed back twice, and is now December 11th. I >expect it to be delayed until January when I check again next week. > >I went through this crap before when waiting for the 755cd; I ordered one >in November 1994 and received it in mid-April. All I know is that my >tolerance for IBM's lies and deceit is diminishing rapidly. Why can't >they be honest with their customers? > >Michael MacDonald >macd@panix.com >mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu > > > > O _ | Pat Presidente | ======= | Technology Resource Teacher | |_-/_| | ppreside@cln.etc.bc.ca | P R E Z | SD 72 425 Pinecrest Rd | | | | 604-286-0651 Fx 286-9801 | ======= | Campbell River, B.C. V9W 3P2 | =======|"It's a half an inch of water and you think you're gonna drown"-JP | From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 15:36:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29414; Sat, 18 Nov 95 15:36:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21514; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:35:36 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:34:07 -0500 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21264; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:34:05 -0500 Received: from Thinkpad (ts37-2.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.22.79]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id MAA09144 for ; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 12:33:59 -0800 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 12:33:59 -0800 Message-Id: <199511182033.MAA09144@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> X-Sender: dpark@pop.ben2.ucla.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Dennis Park Subject: Mwave for Win95 Just wanted to let everyone know that the Mwave drivers for Windows 95 is now available from IBM's BBS. The file is called: MW952101.EXE (MWAVE Windows 95 Drivers) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 16:54:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06432; Sat, 18 Nov 95 16:54:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25952; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 16:54:03 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 16:52:34 -0500 Received: from tin by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25775; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 16:52:31 -0500 Received: from WOODS.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by tin (5.65/Monsanto1.7) id AA07583; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:49:43 -0600 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 15:49:43 -0600 Message-Id: <9511182149.AA07583@tin> From: snmauf@elm.monsanto.com (Simon Maufe, Monsanto CROP IT, V2K, 4-3207) To: TIN"tp750@cs.utk.edu"@cs.utk.edu Subject: re: 760cd delays Seems to me there is a pattern, if the earlier writers hypotheis can be shown (that IBM is bound by an antitrust ruling that says they can announce until they start selling the item) then start writing letters to the US Justice Department. If enough owners do that, then I would hope the government would take notice and force the practice to stop. Simon From: TIN::"owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu" 18-NOV-1995 14:04:22.92 To: Michael MacDonald CC: Thinkpad mailing list Subj: Re: 760cd delays I can certainly appreciate your frustration as I await my 755 CDV Pentium. I've now heard January after already waithing 2 months and am thinking of getting the Dx100 version instead. So the 760s aren't the only problem. Pat At 01:18 PM 95 11 18 -0500, Michael MacDonald wrote: >I hate IBM. Why do they market computers that are not acutally available? >I ordered a 760cd from PC Direct two days after it went on sale. I was >told at the time that I could expect delivery in 10 days. Since then, the >delivery date has been pushed back twice, and is now December 11th. I >expect it to be delayed until January when I check again next week. > >I went through this crap before when waiting for the 755cd; I ordered one >in November 1994 and received it in mid-April. All I know is that my >tolerance for IBM's lies and deceit is diminishing rapidly. Why can't >they be honest with their customers? > >Michael MacDonald >macd@panix.com >mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu > > > > O _ | Pat Presidente | ======= | Technology Resource Teacher | |_-/_| | ppreside@cln.etc.bc.ca | P R E Z | SD 72 425 Pinecrest Rd | | | | 604-286-0651 Fx 286-9801 | ======= | Campbell River, B.C. V9W 3P2 | =======|"It's a half an inch of water and you think you're gonna drown"-JP | From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 18 18:28:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12972; Sat, 18 Nov 95 18:28:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01341; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 18:28:29 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 18 Nov 1995 18:26:30 -0500 Received: from cocoa.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01104; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 18:26:28 -0500 Received: (from news@localhost) by cocoa.brown.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA17220; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 18:26:22 -0500 To: brown-lists-tp750@cocoa.brown.edu Path: news From: Wai-Shan Lam Newsgroups: brown.lists.tp750 Subject: Re: 760cd delays Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 18:25:50 -0500 Organization: Brown University Lines: 9 Message-Id: <30AE6B7E.251B@Brown.edu> References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bootp-30w.andrews.brown.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b2 (Windows; I; 32bit) I have a feeling you will get yours soon. People on CompuServe TP forum who ordered from PC Direct have begun to receive theeir units! I ordered mine BEFORE it was announced from PCs Compleat and they still don't have a shipt date! Consider yourself lucky. From: ________________________ _______________________ Wai_Shan_Lam@Brown.Edu Brown University Box 3691 72124.2644@CompuServe.Com Providence RI 02912--3691 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 19 00:27:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04337; Sun, 19 Nov 95 00:27:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21229; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 00:26:38 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 00:22:11 -0500 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA20924; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 00:22:08 -0500 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com ([156.151.4.11]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA00326; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 21:20:01 -0800 Received: (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id VAA25788; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 21:14:06 -0800 Received: from cc:Mail by espmail.email.com id AA816755618 Sat, 18 Nov 95 20:33:38 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 95 20:33:38 From: "Joe.Bormel" Encoding: 799 Text Message-Id: <9510188167.AA816755618@espmail.email.com> To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: TP755Cx and any PCMCIA modem Randal Whittle writes: |> What I don't understand is this: With a software upgrade, the |> MWAVE can do 28.8K--so why would you want to even use the Megahertz modem? I routinely connect up my MWAVE DSP to my home voice line and my Megahertz PCMCIA card to my data/fax number. That way, I can easily check my voice mail thru an automated FAXWORKs dial sequence while connecting to the company data network via my megahertz modem on the second line. Very practical when working in the home office where heavy voice and data phone activity is common. BTW, win95 does not seem to be able to use my MWAVE for faxing. I do have the mwave 28.8 software upgrade. I always use the megahertz to complete my faxing functionality not present in the MWAVE. -Joe From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 19 00:35:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06407; Sun, 19 Nov 95 00:35:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21581; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 00:35:07 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 00:34:14 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21488; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 00:34:12 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra-scf2.usc.edu [128.125.73.232]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id VAA21324; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 21:34:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id VAA09947; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 21:34:07 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511190534.VAA09947@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: thinkpad backup solutions To: mccord@telepac.pt (Alan McCord) Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 21:34:06 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <199511181009.KAA24840@mail.telepac.pt> from "Alan McCord" at Nov 18, 95 10:09:28 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Jeffrey Friedl wrote: > >Personally, I wouldn't want to use tape except for backups that looked to > >be very long term (and I tend to use my backups often to check this or > >recover that). I use a Panasonic PD, which can read CD-ROMS, but can > >read/write CD-ROM-sized disks at CD-ROM speeds at 650 meg a pop. The > >problem WRT your specs is that it's not very portable -- you can carry it > >around, but it's clunky (mabye 2" tall, 7" wide, 14" deep). > > Does the Panasonic PD have a SCSI interface and does it come with a PCMCIA > SCSI card? If not, what card are you using with it? Are you running under > Win95? > > Is there only one model (PD?) Actually, I'd be interested in just the CD-ROM drive from that Panasonic package--not the interface, as I already have an Adaptec card. Does anyone know if they'll sell it separably? > //\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\ > \\ Alan McCord > // Q u a n t u m R e s e a r c h L i m i t e d > // R. Galileu Correia 8-7A > \\ 2800 Almada > // PORTUGAL > \\ > > ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 19 00:50:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07509; Sun, 19 Nov 95 00:50:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22090; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 00:49:40 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 00:49:04 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22028; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 00:49:01 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra-scf2.usc.edu [128.125.73.232]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id VAA22370; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 21:48:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id VAA10963; Sat, 18 Nov 1995 21:48:57 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511190548.VAA10963@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 755CV video drivers under Warp To: krisdw@ezl.com Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 21:48:56 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <199511181403.IAA14022@www.ezl.com> from "Kris D. Williams" at Nov 18, 95 09:37:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I just returned my 750C and got my 755CV in replacement. What a great How did you manage to score like that? > little box. My students love the idea and watching it work with the > MindPath remote. Biggest problem is that the Western Digital drivers > for the video that I have installed suck big time. I see flickers on > the screen and when I look at something like the Storyboard in > Freelance, I see only black thumbnails with now graphics in them. Is > anybody else having similar problems and has anybody come up with a > remedy. > > ******************************************** > * Kris D. Williams email: krisdw@ezl.com * > ******************************************** > > ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 19 02:27:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12417; Sun, 19 Nov 95 02:27:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25471; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 02:27:00 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 02:25:04 -0500 Received: from earth.usa.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA25312; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 02:25:00 -0500 Received: (from crumrine@localhost) by earth.usa.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id AAA12375; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 00:22:35 -0700 Reply-To: "Mike Crumrine/C@C Computer and Consulting Services Inc" Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 00:22:34 -0700 (MST) From: "Mike Crumrine/C@C Computer and Consulting Services Inc" X-Sender: crumrine@earth To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Cc: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: 760cd delays In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 18 Nov 1995, Michael MacDonald wrote: > I hate IBM. Why do they market computers that are not acutally available? > I ordered a 760cd from PC Direct two days after it went on sale. I was > told at the time that I could expect delivery in 10 days. Since then, the > delivery date has been pushed back twice, and is now December 11th. I > expect it to be delayed until January when I check again next week. > They are now quoting late january for delivery. The company I work at has ten on order, but just received two because they pushed REALLY hard, so they could do testing and such. Nice machine, 95 load not available until Jan. Upgrading win 3.1 to 95 was pretty ok, almost everything working now. One thing is curious, turn it off and watch the battery go from 100% to 0% in about 3-4 hours. Not sure why, these are some of the things they are testing for. BTW: just saw the latest bond flick and noticed an obvious ibm laptop (among several ibm advertisements). Couldn't tell which one though. mike (who can't wait to get his personal one :-) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 19 04:51:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21263; Sun, 19 Nov 95 04:51:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03289; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 04:51:02 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 04:47:44 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03118; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 04:47:35 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id BAA20443; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 01:47:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 01:47:23 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: Michael MacDonald Cc: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: 760cd delays In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII all the vendors do this. it's standard fare. what you do is call some local resellers, and say, 'i want a 760cd', and they will tell you that they have not been shipped, and what the 'current' approx ship date is. so, wait until resellers have it on the shelves before you putin your order. doug On Sat, 18 Nov 1995, Michael MacDonald wrote: > I hate IBM. Why do they market computers that are not acutally available? > I ordered a 760cd from PC Direct two days after it went on sale. I was > told at the time that I could expect delivery in 10 days. Since then, the > delivery date has been pushed back twice, and is now December 11th. I > expect it to be delayed until January when I check again next week. > > I went through this crap before when waiting for the 755cd; I ordered one > in November 1994 and received it in mid-April. All I know is that my > tolerance for IBM's lies and deceit is diminishing rapidly. Why can't > they be honest with their customers? > > Michael MacDonald > macd@panix.com > mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu > > > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 19 09:23:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00326; Sun, 19 Nov 95 09:23:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16722; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:23:26 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:21:03 -0500 Received: from bonjour.cc.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16652; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:21:02 -0500 Received: by bonjour.cc.columbia.edu id AA00317 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for TP list ); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:18:18 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:18:18 -0500 (EST) From: Paulo Magalhaes X-Sender: pm119@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu To: E#KIRKD@ccmail.ceco.com Cc: TP list Subject: Re: Should I worry about Xray machines when travelling In-Reply-To: <9510138162.AA816288444@ccmail.ceco.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 13 Nov 1995 E#KIRKD@ccmail.ceco.com wrote: > Ok, probably a stupid question, but my 701C laptop manual says to stay away > from metal detectors. So what about airport Xray machines? > > Dan Right now I'm writing from the other side of the Atlantic (Denmark to be more specific). My old, faithful TP750Cs has passed under countless X-ray machines, and never a problem. In my experience, nothing seems to happen, but perhaps someone has more data on repeated X-raying (my "countless" above is certainy more than 50, within the last 18-20 months)... Does it shorten the HD life, for example? Paulo -- Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 19 09:26:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00334; Sun, 19 Nov 95 09:26:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16910; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:26:17 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:25:48 -0500 Received: from bonjour.cc.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16843; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:25:45 -0500 Received: by bonjour.cc.columbia.edu id AA00631 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for TP list ); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:25:42 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:25:41 -0500 (EST) From: Paulo Magalhaes X-Sender: pm119@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu To: Dennis Park Cc: TP list Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases In-Reply-To: <199511140623.WAA33968@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 13 Nov 1995, Dennis Park wrote: > Just wanted to know where is the best (inexpensive) place to purchase > carrying cases for the Thinkpad. I am particularly interested in the cases > made specifically for the Thinkpad's by Port. The prices from IBM PC Direct > seem rather high, $89 for the compact carrying case. I have a Targa, which has served its purposed quite well. I could live with a couple of added features, but I can't complain too much: I paid about 25-30 bucks for it... -- Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 19 09:36:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00426; Sun, 19 Nov 95 09:36:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17303; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:35:57 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:35:15 -0500 Received: from bonjour.cc.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17174; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:35:13 -0500 Received: by bonjour.cc.columbia.edu id AA00924 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for TP list ); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:35:11 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 09:35:10 -0500 (EST) From: Paulo Magalhaes X-Sender: pm119@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu To: "John H. Kim" Cc: TP list Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, John H. Kim wrote: > On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Don Whiteside wrote: > > > I feel so low-tech. I keep my pad in my Wired messanger bag. No padding, > > > ... Now, I don't check it when flying or drop it, but it _is_ in > > Heck, I *have* dropped mine. Several times. Usually from the corner > of my desk (~ 3 feet up) onto a hardwood floor. I keep getting my > feet tangled in the power and ethernet cables, and when I get up to > leave... :) Mine, a 750Cs, has fallen twice under similar circumstances: once it required a floppy drive replacement (and got a tiny crack on the panel over the eject button); the other time it didn't even complain. I guess we can't really complain about the higher prices IBM charges :) :) -- Paulo Magalhaes * Dept. Neurology, Columbia University, New York, USA voice: (+1 212) 305 1665 ** fax: ... 305 3986 ** pm119@columbia.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 19 12:32:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10880; Sun, 19 Nov 95 12:32:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23097; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 12:32:01 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 12:29:56 -0500 Received: from is.nyu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22808; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 12:29:55 -0500 Received: from KLENNER.NR.RES.NYU.EDU by is.nyu.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/23Sep94-1121PM) id AA14336; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 12:29:53 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 12:29:53 -0500 Message-Id: <9511191729.AA14336@is.nyu.edu> X-Sender: mdk1143@is.nyu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Klenner Subject: Intro Hello, I'm new to the list. As requested, I'm introducing myself. My system is as follows: ThinkPad 360ce (DX2/50, 8.5" Active) 20 Megabytes RAM 540 HDD External Mouse Megahertz XJ2288 Modem IBM Credit Card Adapter II w/10Base-T and 10Base-2 Tranceivers IBM Dock II Holding: Sony 4X CD-ROM Drive (SCSI) MediaVision Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Major Software: Windows95 and WindowsNT 3.51 Office95 PhotoShop3.04 FTP Serv-U Incidentally, the Notebook itself, and the modem are for sale. The rest of it will be used with either a 755CE which I will get as a replacement. If anyone happens to be interested, let me know. For now, I have a couple of questions: 1) How can I make the ISA Sound Card (which is plugged into the Dock II) run its audio into the Dock's built in speakers? 2) Has anyone had any experience with an upgrade program from IBM? I really want to get a 755 machine. 3) Where can I get the righ drive rails for the Dock II? As it is, my internal CD-ROM is not properly mounted. 4) Is there a digest edition of this list, and how do I change over? Thanks guys! --- Michael Klenner mdk1143@is.nyu.edu mklenner@pacificnet.net http://pages.nyu.edu/~mdk1143 --- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Nov 19 18:46:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00612; Sun, 19 Nov 95 18:46:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09735; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 18:45:39 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 19 Nov 1995 18:41:12 -0500 Received: from cocoa.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09458; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 18:41:09 -0500 Received: (from news@localhost) by cocoa.brown.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA09141; Sun, 19 Nov 1995 18:41:03 -0500 To: brown-lists-tp750@cocoa.brown.edu Path: news From: Wai-Shan Lam Newsgroups: brown.lists.tp750 Subject: Re: 701 Replacement info? Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 18:40:38 -0500 Organization: Brown University Lines: 14 Message-Id: <30AFC076.5889@Brown.edu> References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bootp-30w.andrews.brown.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b2 (Windows; I; 32bit) There was an article in the InformationWeek homepage which discussed IBM's plan for the 701. In the article, it says IBM might scrap the idea of the Butterfly keyboard, because the current design does not allow them to put a faster processor... and the fact people want BIGGER screens these days. So they might shift their direction towards the SLIM design like the Digital Ultra Lite. But these are all speculations. Nothing is firmed. -- From: ________________________ _______________________ Wai_Shan_Lam@Brown.Edu Brown University Box 3691 72124.2644@CompuServe.Com Providence RI 02912--3691 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 03:45:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25684; Mon, 20 Nov 95 03:45:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA03380; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 03:44:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 03:41:00 -0500 Received: from estgtw.estec.esa.nl by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA03167; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 03:40:57 -0500 Received: by estgtw.estec.esa.nl (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA01094; Mon, 20 Nov 95 09:40:51 +0100 Received: from 666.estec.esa.nl by bcops5.estec.esa.nl via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id KAA03494; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 10:00:25 -0800 Received: by 666.estec.esa.nl with Microsoft Mail id <01BAB72B.EC524000@666.estec.esa.nl>; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 09:38:18 +-100 Message-Id: <01BAB72B.EC524000@666.estec.esa.nl> From: Damon Randall To: "'Thinkpad'" Cc: "'Mr. Gianoli'" Subject: Thinkpad 750 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 09:38:16 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Can anyone help me ? Which version of card software and modem drivers are required to run a = IBM PCMCIA High Speed Fax Modem (model number 342rcx264d) with an IBM = Thinkpad 750C. Thanks in advance for anyhelp recieved. Damon Randall demon@bcops5.estec.esa.nl ESA Estec ISD Projects Team Noordwijk The Netherlands. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 05:50:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06308; Mon, 20 Nov 95 05:50:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA16177; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 05:49:53 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 05:47:32 -0500 Received: from tpone.telepac.pt by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA16099; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 05:47:16 -0500 Received: from mail.telepac.pt (webpac.telepac.pt [194.65.3.34]) by tpone.telepac.pt (8.6.12/1.0) with ESMTP id LAA08102 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 11:45:35 GMT Received: from mccord.telepac.pt (alm1_p1.telepac.pt [194.65.16.65]) by mail.telepac.pt (8.6.12/0.0) with SMTP id LAA29899 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 11:44:58 GMT Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 11:44:58 GMT Message-Id: <199511201144.LAA29899@mail.telepac.pt> X-Sender: mccord@mail.telepac.pt X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: mccord@telepac.pt (Alan McCord) Subject: Mail order Panasonic source ??? Can anyone recommend a *reliable* mail order company that sells the Panasonic PD SCSI rewritable 650MB combined optical and CDROM drive. There are apparently 2 versions: LF-1000AB (External) <- this is the one I'm interested in. LF-1004AB (Internal) They apparently come with Corel SCSI drivers. I plan to make the SCSI connection by PCMCIA from a 755c. Can anyone suggest whether a New Media "Bus Toaster" or an Adaptec PCMCIA SCSI card would be best? Thanks >> Jeffrey Friedl wrote: >> >Personally, I wouldn't want to use tape except for backups that looked to >> >be very long term (and I tend to use my backups often to check this or >> >recover that). I use a Panasonic PD, which can read CD-ROMS, but can >> >read/write CD-ROM-sized disks at CD-ROM speeds at 650 meg a pop. The >> >problem WRT your specs is that it's not very portable -- you can carry it >> >around, but it's clunky (mabye 2" tall, 7" wide, 14" deep). >> >> Does the Panasonic PD have a SCSI interface and does it come with a PCMCIA >> SCSI card? If not, what card are you using with it? Are you running under >> Win95? >> >> Is there only one model (PD?) > > Actually, I'd be interested in just the CD-ROM drive from that >Panasonic package--not the interface, as I already have an Adaptec >card. Does anyone know if they'll sell it separably? > //\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\ \\ Alan McCord // Q u a n t u m R e s e a r c h L i m i t e d // R. Galileu Correia 8-7A \\ 2800 Almada // PORTUGAL \\ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 05:57:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06436; Mon, 20 Nov 95 05:57:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA16600; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 05:57:18 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 05:56:51 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA16501; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 05:55:30 -0500 Received: from localhost by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.5/2.8Wb-ocgw) id TAA15658; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:54:28 +0900 Received: from ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (V1.3) id sma015650; Mon Nov 20 19:54:27 1995 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id TAA25621; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:54:57 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id TAA09746; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:54:26 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id TAA23150; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:54:25 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Mon, 20 Nov 95 19:53:40 +0900 Message-Id: <9511201053.AA01268@shibuya.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Alan McCord's message of Mon, 20 Nov 1995 11:44:58 GMT <199511201144.LAA29899@mail.telepac.pt> Subject: Re: Mail order Panasonic source ??? Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp |> I plan to make the SCSI connection by PCMCIA from a 755c. Can anyone |> suggest whether a New Media "Bus Toaster" or an Adaptec PCMCIA SCSI card |> would be best? I bought an Adaptec ThinSCSI, and have had no problems with it under Linux, DOS, or Windowz. Claimer: I own Adaptec stock, and I have personal reasons for disliking New Media. Jeffrey ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey Friedl Omron Corp, Nagaokakyo, Kyoto 617 Japan See my Jap<->Eng dictionary at http://www.wg.omron.co.jp/cgi-bin/j-e and http://enterprise.ic.gc.ca/cgi-bin/j-e From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 08:39:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17595; Mon, 20 Nov 95 08:39:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25985; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 08:38:43 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 08:35:40 -0500 Received: from greece.elab.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25744; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 08:35:37 -0500 Received: (stevens@localhost) by greece.elab.columbia.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4.elab) id IAA14469; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 08:35:32 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 08:35:32 -0500 From: stevens@elab.columbia.edu (Andy Stevens) Message-Id: <199511201335.IAA14469@greece.elab.columbia.edu> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199511201144.LAA29899@mail.telepac.pt> (mccord@telepac.pt) Subject: Re: Mail order Panasonic source ??? >Can anyone recommend a *reliable* mail order company that sells the >Panasonic PD SCSI rewritable 650MB combined optical and CDROM drive. There >are apparently 2 versions: > >LF-1000AB (External) <- this is the one I'm interested in. >LF-1004AB (Internal) A place with a reasonable reputation is J&R Computer World, though I don't know their reputation on international orders. The latest price I saw for these items are $650 and $500. The cartridges are $60. Their phone is 1-800-221-8180. --andy From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 08:41:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17767; Mon, 20 Nov 95 08:41:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26233; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 08:41:17 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 08:40:40 -0500 Received: from polaris.cv.nrao.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA26120; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 08:40:37 -0500 Received: by polaris.cv.nrao.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA192015; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 08:40:34 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 08:40:34 -0500 From: awootten@polaris.cv.nrao.edu (Al Wootten) Message-Id: <9511201340.AA192015@polaris.cv.nrao.edu> To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: 760cd delays In-Reply-To: References: John H. Kim writes: > On Sat, 18 Nov 1995, Michael MacDonald wrote: > > > I hate IBM. Why do they market computers that are not acutally available? I suspect that marketing tactics decree that they be available for best friends first, individual users as important (many unit) consumers become satisfied. My neighbor, former VP-Marketing for Circuit City, always had the best toys first--and usually several `evaluation units' which on occasion he might lend me for a while in return for an opinion. Sadly, he has retired... Clear skies, Al +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Alwyn Wootten (http://www.cv.nrao.edu/~awootten/) | | Astronomer, National Radio Astronomy Observatory | | 520 Edgemont Road, Charlottesville, VA 22903-2475, USA| | (804)-296-0329 voice Let's build The Millimeter Array| | (804)-296-0278 FAX {> {> {> {> | +------------------------------^-----^-----^-----^------+ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 15:25:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23282; Mon, 20 Nov 95 15:25:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27039; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 15:18:40 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 15:12:21 -0500 Received: from hoover.stanford.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26557; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 15:12:14 -0500 Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #13307) id <01HXV6B9WMHI004UAV@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 12:11:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 12:11:58 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson Subject: Thinkpad 701 List? To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01HXV6B9WW4O004UAV@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@CS.UTK.EDU" X-Vms-Cc: ANDRSN Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I've got a Thinkpad 701 with modem and am having trouble making it dial a Sprint access number, a phone number, and then my personal code number. ProComm Plus knows how to do this, but IBM's Internet Access ("other provider") under OS/2 doesn't seem to know how. Incredibly IBM's Thinkpad help number (18007722227) says this is a software problem; I can get help from the TCPIP group for $149, or help on OS2 Warp software for $35 (one call, I guess). Can anyone here help, or is there a different group for the 701 line? Thanks-- Annelise From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 17:09:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00388; Mon, 20 Nov 95 17:09:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05626; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 17:07:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 17:05:28 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05442; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 17:05:12 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id OAA16934; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 14:04:57 -0800 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma016921; Mon Nov 20 14:04:53 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (pctedf.cadence.com [158.140.56.21]) by cds9258.cadence.com (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id OAA04664; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 14:04:49 -0800 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 14:04:49 -0800 Message-Id: <199511202204.OAA04664@cds9258.cadence.com> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu, snmauf@elm.monsanto.com, kensey@wired.com From: Ted Frederick Subject: re: 760cd delays Hi, At 03:49 PM 11/18/95 -0600, Simon Maufe, Monsanto CROP IT, V2K, 4-3207 wrote: >Seems to me there is a pattern, if the earlier writers hypotheis can be shown >(that IBM is bound by an antitrust ruling that says they can announce until >they start selling the item) then start writing letters to the US Justice >Department. If enough owners do that, then I would hope the government would >take notice and force the practice to stop. > C'mon people, IBM covers their ass in these things. Contrary to what many of us think from time to time, (myself included) Forrest Gump is not running the works there, they actually *do* have a pretty good grip on the legalities of marketing computer products... All they have to do is show that they could or did ship 'a unit' when they announce the product. I'm certain they have shipped more than one unit of the 760CD. Doug Fairclough mentioned in an earlier e-mail that you should wait until resellers have stock on hand before you order a unit... Bad idea, unless you are willing to wait several months while all the back-orders are filled first. I know this is evil, but, the best thing to do if you "gotta" have the unit pronto is to source as many vendors as possible and place an order with each one. They can't charge/invoice you until they ship (at least in the US), and all you do is cancel the other orders when the first unit arrives. In the event you are shipped multiple units, send the others back and you will be credited by the reseller or IBM since IBM maintains a 30-day no Q's asked return policy. I know it's a little more legwork, but if you *really* want/need it... Keep in mind, this advice is targeted for US consumers only... >From: TIN::"owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu" 18-NOV-1995 14:04:22.92 >To: Michael MacDonald >CC: Thinkpad mailing list >Subj: Re: 760cd delays > >I can certainly appreciate your frustration as I await my 755 CDV Pentium. >I've now heard January after already waithing 2 months and am thinking of >getting the Dx100 version instead. So the 760s aren't the only problem. > >Pat > >At 01:18 PM 95 11 18 -0500, Michael MacDonald wrote: >>I hate IBM. Why do they market computers that are not acutally available? >>I ordered a 760cd from PC Direct two days after it went on sale. I was >>told at the time that I could expect delivery in 10 days. Since then, the >>delivery date has been pushed back twice, and is now December 11th. I >>expect it to be delayed until January when I check again next week. >> >>I went through this crap before when waiting for the 755cd; I ordered one >>in November 1994 and received it in mid-April. All I know is that my >>tolerance for IBM's lies and deceit is diminishing rapidly. Why can't >>they be honest with their customers? >> >>Michael MacDonald >>macd@panix.com >>mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu >> >> >> >> > >O _ | Pat Presidente | ======= | Technology Resource Teacher | >|_-/_| | ppreside@cln.etc.bc.ca | P R E Z | SD 72 425 Pinecrest Rd | >| | | 604-286-0651 Fx 286-9801 | ======= | Campbell River, B.C. V9W 3P2 | >=======|"It's a half an inch of water and you think you're gonna drown"-JP | > **************************** Ted Frederick Principal Mgr. DM Practice Voice: 408.894.2275 Fax: 408.894.3484 tedf@cadence.com **************************** From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 17:24:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04343; Mon, 20 Nov 95 17:24:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07188; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 17:22:09 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 17:20:58 -0500 Received: from snow.water.ca.gov by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07043; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 17:20:52 -0500 Message-Id: <199511202220.RAA07043@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by snow.water.ca.gov (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA07361; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 14:19:37 -0800 From: Frank Gehrke Subject: Source for TP 750 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 14:19:36 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings- I'm looking for a source for a TP 750. I'd like to get that model as opposed to the newer versions as we're using two of them already and I know that all the parts, software would be interchangeable. Seems to me there was once mention of a source of refurbished Thinkpads. thanks -- Frank Gehrke California Cooperative Snow Surveys P.O. Box 219000 Sacramento, CA 95821-9000 916-574-2635 FAX 916-574-2767 e-mail gridley@water.ca.gov From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 18:02:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10504; Mon, 20 Nov 95 18:02:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA10704; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:01:26 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:00:04 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10388; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 17:59:59 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id OAA28721; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 14:59:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 14:59:41 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: Ted Frederick Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu, snmauf@elm.monsanto.com Subject: re: 760cd delays In-Reply-To: <199511202204.OAA04664@cds9258.cadence.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Doug Fairclough mentioned in an earlier e-mail that you should wait until > resellers have stock on hand before you order a unit... Bad idea, unless you > are willing to wait several months while all the back-orders are filled first. > > I know this is evil, but, the best thing to do if you "gotta" have the unit > pronto is to source as many vendors as possible and place an order with each > one. They can't charge/invoice you until they ship (at least in the US), > and all you do is cancel the other orders when the first unit arrives. In > the event you are shipped multiple units, send the others back and you will > be credited by the reseller or IBM since IBM maintains a 30-day no Q's asked > return policy. I know it's a little more legwork, but if you *really* > want/need it... > how do you differentiate between what you call 'vendors' and what i call 'resellers'. i meant stores that stock stuff. that you see on the street. you can walk in. feel like you're in some turkish marketplace. etc. are we talking about two different things here ? doug From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 18:09:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10681; Mon, 20 Nov 95 18:09:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11329; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:08:41 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:06:51 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11226; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:06:46 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA24497; Mon, 20 Nov 95 15:05:49 -0800 Received: by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA01668; Mon, 20 Nov 95 15:04:17 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 15:04:15 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: "Dennis Park" Subject: Re: Mwave for Win95 Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199511182033.maa09144@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> References: <199511182033.maa09144@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit It doesn't appear to be on their ftp site yet however. --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated On Nov. 18 95, 12:33 PST, "Dennis Park" wrote: >Just wanted to let everyone know that the Mwave drivers for Windows 95 is >now available from IBM's BBS. The file is called: >MW952101.EXE (MWAVE Windows 95 Drivers) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 18:27:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11671; Mon, 20 Nov 95 18:27:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12702; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:25:56 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:24:34 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12470; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:24:29 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA07498; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:24:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:24:16 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Mwave for Win95 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 20 Nov 1995, Chris Osborn wrote: > >Just wanted to let everyone know that the Mwave drivers for Windows 95 is > >now available from IBM's BBS. The file is called: > > It doesn't appear to be on their ftp site yet however. Someone post that URL for IBM's link to their Compuserve directory. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 18:30:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11691; Mon, 20 Nov 95 18:30:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12843; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:28:12 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:27:22 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12770; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:27:18 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra-scf2.usc.edu [128.125.73.232]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id PAA10855; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 15:27:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id PAA20308; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 15:27:06 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511202327.PAA20308@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Source for TP 750 To: gridley@snow.water.ca.gov (Frank Gehrke) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 15:27:05 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <199511202220.RAA07043@CS.UTK.EDU> from "Frank Gehrke" at Nov 20, 95 02:19:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm looking for a source for a TP 750. I'd like to get that model as opposed to > the newer versions as we're using two of them already and I know that all the parts, software would be interchangeable. Seems to me there was once mention of a source of refurbished Thinkpads. > > thanks > -- > Frank Gehrke Frank, surprisingly I'm selling a 750C right now--if its the color screen you want (as opposed to a 750 mono) and you don't require getting one from an "approved vendor" or some such, then send me an E-mail. My guess is that I'd be cheaper than IBM refurbs and there's still more than 1 year's warranty on my machine. Good luck... ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 18:45:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13235; Mon, 20 Nov 95 18:45:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14010; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:43:51 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:41:52 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13854; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:41:48 -0500 From: Received: from ppp-ftl1-19.shadow.net (ppp-ftl1-19.shadow.net [206.136.141.19]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA06623 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:42:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:42:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199511202342.SAA06623@shadow.net> X-Sender: chappe@shadow.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP701C w/New Media Bus Toaster? Has anyone had any problems/success loading this card (the SCSI II) in a TP701C? The New Media Bus Toaster SNIFFER program reports no memory , io, or IRQ resources available. The BTASPI driver will not load. I've tried the configuration for Thinpads from their FAX Server, I've also tried different Card Services software (CARDSOFT). Still no luck. Your comments are welcome. Thanks. _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- chappe@shadow.net ~ This is the modern world. PW. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 19:56:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20655; Mon, 20 Nov 95 19:56:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19099; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:55:12 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:53:51 -0500 Received: from PEAK.ORG by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18942; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:53:47 -0500 Received: from leejim.peak.org (stone.PEAK.ORG [198.68.21.132]) by PEAK.ORG (8.6.12/8.6.7) with SMTP id QAA17622 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 16:53:38 -0800 Message-Id: <199511210053.QAA17622@PEAK.ORG> Sender: From: "Jim Lee" Organization: Diamond Quest Consulting To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 16:56:02 -8 Subject: Re: TP701C w/New Media Bus Toaster? Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) > From: > Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 18:42:46 -0500 > To: TP750@cs.utk.edu > Subject: TP701C w/New Media Bus Toaster? > Has anyone had any problems/success loading this card > (the SCSI II) in a TP701C? > > The New Media Bus Toaster SNIFFER program reports > no memory , io, or IRQ resources available. > > The BTASPI driver will not load. > I've tried the configuration for Thinpads from their > FAX Server, I've also tried different Card Services > software (CARDSOFT). Still no luck. > > Your comments are welcome. > Thanks. I have no problems at all with the Bus Toaster/TP701C combo, but I'm running Linux and Win95. Haven't tried it under DOS/Win (and never will... :-) ---------- Jim Lee Diamond Quest Consulting leejim@peak.org 30563 Ridge St http://www.peak.org/~leejim Lebanon, OR 97355 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 19:56:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20660; Mon, 20 Nov 95 19:56:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19057; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:55:02 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:52:32 -0500 Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18864; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:52:27 -0500 Received: from oasis.vpia.uconn.edu by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 20 Nov 95 19:52:16 EST Received: from OASIS/MERCURYQ by oasis.vpia.uconn.edu (Mercury 1.21); 20 Nov 95 19:55:32 EST Received: from MERCURYQ by OASIS (Mercury 1.21); 20 Nov 95 19:55:16 EST From: "Guy Farrell" Organization: The UConn Foundation, Inc. To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:55:06 EST Subject: Re: thinkpad backup solutions Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-Id: <18163E75DB@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu> > wondering if anyone can suggest a good backup solution for a > thinkpad. > > Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 > Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 > As silly as it seems, an external 1GB+ drive in a parallel box might be what you are looking for. Princing for an external drive box with parallel interface is ~$100(US) plus >1GB(more with compression) ~$300. Reasonable price and quite fast, plus no heavy power supply issues. Big question: Do you need quick access to your backed up data? If yes, then you should stick with an "active" backup based on disk, i.e. magneto optical or convensional hard disk. Best bang for the buck is Pinnacle Micro's new Apex 4.6GB uncompressed for ~$1,700 with additional 4.6GB disks for ~$200. That's $0.37/MB to start and $0.04/MB there after! If no, consider the vast assortment of tape backups. The above note is from experiences with our publications people you have tried to maintain libraries on DAT, the fastest/largest of the tapes. It does not work practically. 15min+ does not compare to 1/2 sec favorably _esp_ when you are looking for multiple files. I would agree the network backup is probably the cheapest/safest but it appears that you might be away from your desk? Guy W. Farrell Vox: (860)486-0964 My Desk Network Coordinator, Postmaster (860)486-5000 Front Desk The UConn Foundation, Inc. (800)269-9965 Toll-free U-Box 206 Fax: (860)486-1615 Storrs, CT 06269-4190 E-mail: gfarrell@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu Computer Support for Institutional Advancement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 19:57:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20666; Mon, 20 Nov 95 19:57:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19289; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:56:22 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:55:33 -0500 Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19157; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:55:29 -0500 Received: from oasis.vpia.uconn.edu by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 20 Nov 95 19:55:15 EST Received: from OASIS/MERCURYQ by oasis.vpia.uconn.edu (Mercury 1.21); 20 Nov 95 19:58:32 EST Received: from MERCURYQ by OASIS (Mercury 1.21); 20 Nov 95 19:58:23 EST From: "Guy Farrell" Organization: The UConn Foundation, Inc. To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 19:58:15 EST Subject: Re: 760cd delays Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-Id: <18239A488C@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu> > On Sat, 18 Nov 1995, Michael MacDonald wrote: > > > I hate IBM. Why do they market computers that are not acutally available? > On Sat, 18 Nov 1995, John H. Kim responded: > > We've discussed this (emphasis on "cussed" :) several times in the > past two years. One theory has to do with the consent decree IBM > signed with the U.S. Justice Department. > Anyways, the theory goes that since they can't pre-announce anything, > they build a few computers, then announce and sell them before they've > started mass-producing them. Common practice. Gateway was two months behind on P120 delivery mid summer. I have been privy to the back-stabbing that occurs for new machines. Neither of the two companies previously mensioned were involved, but a sales/marketing officer told me outright that a particular hospital's order was shipping while a university order might have to wait four to six months. Reason: "limited availability and stronger than expected demand". Really, they just promiss it all and know that production & demand are somewhat inverse with hot new products. Guy W. Farrell Vox: (860)486-0964 My Desk Network Coordinator, Postmaster (860)486-5000 Front Desk The UConn Foundation, Inc. (800)269-9965 Toll-free U-Box 206 Fax: (860)486-1615 Storrs, CT 06269-4190 E-mail: gfarrell@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu Computer Support for Institutional Advancement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 20:14:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22009; Mon, 20 Nov 95 20:14:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21136; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:13:38 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:11:56 -0500 Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA20778; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:11:50 -0500 Received: from oasis.vpia.uconn.edu by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 20 Nov 95 20:11:35 EST Received: from OASIS/MERCURYQ by oasis.vpia.uconn.edu (Mercury 1.21); 20 Nov 95 20:14:51 EST Received: from MERCURYQ by OASIS (Mercury 1.21); 20 Nov 95 20:14:43 EST From: "Guy Farrell" Organization: The UConn Foundation, Inc. To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:14:43 EST Subject: Re: Thinkpad Carrying Cases Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-Id: <18694D7029@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu> On Sun, 19 Nov 1995, Paulo Magalhaes > On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, John H. Kim wrote: > > > On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Don Whiteside wrote: > > > > > I feel so low-tech. I keep my pad in my Wired messanger bag. No padding, > > > > > ... Now, I don't check it when flying or drop it, but it _is_ in > > > > Heck, I *have* dropped mine. Several times. Usually from the corner > > of my desk (~ 3 feet up) onto a hardwood floor... :) > > Mine, a 750Cs, has fallen twice under similar circumstances :) :) Alright, how about an old TP350 surviving two years of college in an L.L.Bean backpack. Little padding esp on the bottom of the bag where is it sat on the floor. A few hundred miles mtn biking, lots of picking up by the screen, too many to count knocks from the desk to the asbestos tile floor, and only a backplate replacement (the new one was reinforced by a race car body fabricator with fiberglass!) Oh, and the little kick stand/port cover has been ripped off (not my doing). Guy W. Farrell Vox: (860)486-0964 My Desk Network Coordinator, Postmaster (860)486-5000 Front Desk The UConn Foundation, Inc. (800)269-9965 Toll-free U-Box 206 Fax: (860)486-1615 Storrs, CT 06269-4190 E-mail: gfarrell@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu Computer Support for Institutional Advancement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 20:53:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24180; Mon, 20 Nov 95 20:53:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA24091; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:52:04 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:50:52 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23979; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:50:49 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id RAA17522; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 17:50:45 -0800 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma017260; Mon Nov 20 17:48:48 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (pctedf.cadence.com [158.140.56.21]) by cds9258.cadence.com (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id RAA23336; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 17:48:47 -0800 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 17:48:47 -0800 Message-Id: <199511210148.RAA23336@cds9258.cadence.com> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dpark@ucla.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Ted Frederick Subject: MWave for Win95... Fact or Fiction? Hi Dennis, On Nov 18th you wrote that you found MWave for Win95 drivers on the BBS. Looked on the WWW/FTP server... not there. Went to the BBS at (919)517-0001 and searched for MW95, mw95, 95, w95, MW952101.EXE, mw952101.exe and came up empty... Am I missing something? Did they pull the file? Where did you see it? Would you be willing to send it to me? -Ted From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 21:14:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25236; Mon, 20 Nov 95 21:14:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25666; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 21:12:29 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 21:10:17 -0500 Received: from central.picker.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25379; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 21:10:15 -0500 Received: from mr.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0tHhtH-0004sCC; Mon, 20 Nov 95 20:52 EST Received: from alpha14 by mr.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-a) id AA01255; Mon, 20 Nov 95 20:51:34 EST From: djr@mr.picker.com (Don Russell) Received: by alpha14; (5.65/1.1.8.2/15May95-0912AM) id AA30471; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:51:33 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:51:33 -0500 Message-Id: <9511210151.AA30471@alpha14> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: 760 info Is there an ftp site with an archive of this mailing list's activity? -- +------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Don Russell | Internet: djr@mr.picker.com | | Picker International | Voice: (216)-473-5726 | | 5500 Avion Park Drive | Fax: (216) 473-5728 | | Highland Heights, Ohio 44143 | | +------------------------------+-------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 20 23:43:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19641; Mon, 20 Nov 95 23:43:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06672; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 23:43:12 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 20 Nov 1995 23:40:02 -0500 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06337; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 23:40:00 -0500 Received: from Thinkpad (ts39-1.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.22.110]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id UAA27684 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:39:53 -0800 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:39:53 -0800 Message-Id: <199511210439.UAA27684@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> X-Sender: dpark@pop.ben2.ucla.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Dennis Park Subject: Re: Mwave for Win 95 The drivers should be posted on the usual IBM file areas (IBM BBS, Web, Compuserve) in the next few days. The file is dated Nov 13, 1995. Dennis From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 21 12:40:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26355; Tue, 21 Nov 95 12:40:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08733; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:38:30 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:29:46 -0500 Received: from cocoa.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07840; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:29:42 -0500 Received: (from news@localhost) by cocoa.brown.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA23784; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:29:04 -0500 To: brown-lists-tp750@cocoa.brown.edu Path: news From: Wai-Shan Lam Newsgroups: brown.lists.tp750 Subject: Re: Mwave for Win 95 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:28:38 -0500 Organization: Brown University Lines: 8 Message-Id: <30B20C46.470B@Brown.edu> References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bootp-30w.andrews.brown.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b2 (Windows; I; 32bit) To: Dennis Park -- Personally, I cannot find the MWave 95 you mentioned. Do you have the exact file names? From: ________________________ _______________________ Wai_Shan_Lam@Brown.Edu Brown University Box 3691 72124.2644@CompuServe.Com Providence RI 02912--3691 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 21 12:54:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27062; Tue, 21 Nov 95 12:54:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10756; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:52:49 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:51:13 -0500 Received: from cocoa.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10608; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:51:11 -0500 Received: from mailhub.cts.com (mailhub.cts.com [192.188.72.25]) by cocoa.brown.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA25091 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:51:06 -0500 Received: from c2laptop.iaco.com by mailhub.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #20) id m0tHwqX-000V6WC; Tue, 21 Nov 95 09:51 PST Message-Id: Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Christopher Cunningham" Organization: Internet Advertising Corp. To: brown-lists-tp750@cocoa.brown.edu Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 09:50:18 +0000 Subject: IBM Support Reply-To: c2@iaco.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.22) This message is to IBM, it has also been sent directly to IBM via their Web site. I would like to make a suggestion on behalf of a large number of ThinkPad users who have access to the Internet although not necessarily through Compuserve. I would like to suggest that IBM release software updates to its ftp/Web site with the same degree of timeliness that it releases software to the Compuserve support forum. Most recently, IBM has released Win95 MWAVE drivers on Compuserve but failed to put them on the ftp/Web site (it is also interesting to note that IBM also releases software updates to Compuserve before posting on its own dialup BBS). Given that Compuserve represents a small percentage of the size of the overall Internet population, it would seem that IBM is not making much effort to service the majority of its installed base. Furthermore, IBM's de-emphasis of the Internet as a medium for software support and distribution in favor of a private service is directly in opposition to IBM's stated support of the Internet as a basis for future products and technology. It is hard to take IBM's stated commitment to the Internet seriously when it won't support its users through this important medium - Microsoft does. While IBM deals with this problem, it would sure be nice if they would post the MWAVE 95 drivers to their ftp site. IBM: are you listening? Show us by posting a response stating your position on release schedules for software updates on the Internet. Regards, Christopher Cunningham From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 21 12:56:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27369; Tue, 21 Nov 95 12:56:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10906; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:54:19 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:53:18 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper.nsc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10776; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:53:15 -0500 Received: from nsc.nsc.com by gatekeeper.nsc.com (5.65/fma-120691) with SMTP; id AA22733 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 21 Nov 95 09:53:06 -0800 Received: from berlioz.nsc.com by nsc.nsc.com (5.65/1.34) with SMTP id AA03242 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 21 Nov 95 09:53:05 -0800 Received: from maradona.nsc.com by berlioz.nsc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18996; Tue, 21 Nov 95 09:48:33 PST Date: Tue, 21 Nov 95 09:48:33 PST From: wmng@berlioz.nsc.com (William Ng) Message-Id: <9511211748.AA18996@berlioz.nsc.com> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: problem with Adaptec SlimScsi Hello, I have the following problem and would appreicate any help: I recently bought a NEC MultiSpin 3Xp plus external CDROM and an Adaptec SlimScsi PCMCIA card. I am having a tp755cx running Warp (3.0) and Windows 3.11 (the configuration came preload). For the last week I tried to install the software drivers without any success. Frist I tried to install the drivers under Windows. At the end, it created an Adpatec program group but when I tried to use the CDROM player, it said the drivers are not there. The way I installed the software was to invoke Windows under Warp and run the installation there. I did not reboot to DOS and run Windows first. I am not sure if this is the right way. I did not play around with that very much since my interest was to get the CDROM running under OS/2 first. So I went to the "Selective Install" under Warp to install the driver stuffs for this NEC CDROM. I checked config.sys afterward and it looked like the installation had made the right changes. The section which I think is right looks like this: REM following 5 lines were for SCSI/CDROM support used during install - begin DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\OS2CDROM.DMD /Q IFS=C:\OS2\BOOT\CDFS.IFS /Q DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VCDROM.SYS BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD BASEDEV=AHA152X.ADD REM === SCSI/CDROM support used during install - end REM === ThinkPad PC Card Director - begin === BASEDEV=PCMCIA.SYS /P BASEDEV=IBM2SS01.SYS /D DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\VPCMCIA.SYS DEVICE=C:\MWAVEOS2\BIN\mwbd0400.sys BUS=1150000 DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\COM.SYS (2,2F8,3) DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VCOM.SYS DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV2.SYS C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV2.INI REM Client driver should be loaded here prior to $ICPMOS2.SYS DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\$ICPMOS2.SYS REM === ThinkPad PC Card Director - end === However, after I rebooted the machine, the machine could not find the CDROM. I tried to register the CDROM player within the "Card Director", but when I launched the application, nothing happened. I tried to open the CDROM player and it said the CDROM is not available. Next, I looked for newer drivers in Adpatec BBS, found one (AHX152X.ADD), replaced it with the old one and I could not even boot my machine. It complained about some internal error with the driver PCMCIA$. I am basically stuck at this point. Please help! Thanks in advance. -William Ng From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 21 15:27:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11487; Tue, 21 Nov 95 15:27:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25962; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:24:28 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:21:35 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25671; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:21:32 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA11119; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:20:35 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:20:34 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Cc: brown-lists-tp750@cocoa.brown.edu Subject: Re: IBM Support In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Christopher Cunningham wrote: > I would like to suggest that IBM > release software updates to its ftp/Web site with the same degree of > timeliness that it releases software to the Compuserve support forum. There *is* a way to access the Compuserve files via the web. IBM has a cgi-bin somewhere that accesses a directory with a name identical to their Compuserve files directory. The last time we went through this, it had the new files several days before the ftp site did. I just don't remember the URL. Somebody post it, or remind us what IBM's Compuserve file directory name is to jog out collective memory. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 21 15:27:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11486; Tue, 21 Nov 95 15:27:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25958; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:24:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:21:42 -0500 Received: from cocoa.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25682; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:21:38 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu (TUNA.MIT.EDU [18.250.0.56]) by cocoa.brown.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA04730 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:21:34 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA11119; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:20:35 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:20:34 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Cc: brown-lists-tp750@cocoa.brown.edu Subject: Re: IBM Support In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Christopher Cunningham wrote: > I would like to suggest that IBM > release software updates to its ftp/Web site with the same degree of > timeliness that it releases software to the Compuserve support forum. There *is* a way to access the Compuserve files via the web. IBM has a cgi-bin somewhere that accesses a directory with a name identical to their Compuserve files directory. The last time we went through this, it had the new files several days before the ftp site did. I just don't remember the URL. Somebody post it, or remind us what IBM's Compuserve file directory name is to jog out collective memory. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 21 17:44:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26816; Tue, 21 Nov 95 17:44:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10156; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 17:42:31 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 17:39:12 -0500 Received: from cs.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09824; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 17:39:06 -0500 Received: from jones.cs.brown.edu (jones.cs.brown.edu [128.148.38.144]) by cs.brown.edu (8.7.1/Bullwinkle1.1) with ESMTP id RAA11350; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 17:39:00 -0500 (EST) From: Sridhar Ramaswamy Received: (sr@localhost) by jones.cs.brown.edu (8.7.1/BrownCS1.0) id RAA12080; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 17:38:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 17:38:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199511212238.RAA12080@jones.cs.brown.edu> To: ANDRSN@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad 701 List? >>From: Annelise Anderson >> >>I've got a Thinkpad 701 with modem and am having trouble making it >>dial a Sprint access number, a phone number, and then my personal >>code number. >> >>ProComm Plus knows how to do this, but IBM's Internet Access ("other >>provider") under OS/2 doesn't seem to know how. >> >>Incredibly IBM's Thinkpad help number (18007722227) says this is a >>software problem; I can get help from the TCPIP group for $149, or >>help on OS2 Warp software for $35 (one call, I guess). >> >>Can anyone here help, or is there a different group for the 701 line? >> How do you know when to enter the access code? I mean, do you get a prompt or something? Or are you trying to use a calling card number? IBM's Internet Access can be asked to use a Rexx script for dialing up. I had to hack up one of their pre-provided scripts in order to run slip from my company's terminal server (which requires s/key passwords). If there is a simple pattern to what you have to do, Rexx is quite easy for this job. If the timing you require is very fixed (enter access code 15 seconds after dialing the phone number), that should also be easy to do. Just look the example rexx scripts in \tcpip\bin. They have a .cmd extension. Good luck, --Sridhar From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 21 18:22:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29668; Tue, 21 Nov 95 18:22:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13514; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:21:25 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:20:04 -0500 Received: from cocoa.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13312; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:19:59 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu (chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by cocoa.brown.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA15283 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:19:43 -0500 Received: from [128.125.223.106] (comserv-f-34.usc.edu [128.125.223.106]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with SMTP id PAA07363; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:19:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:27:46 -0800 To: c2@iaco.com, brown-lists-tp750@cocoa.brown.edu From: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: IBM Support At 1:50 AM 11/21/95, Christopher Cunningham wrote: >I would like to make a suggestion on behalf of a large number of >ThinkPad users who have access to the Internet although not >necessarily through Compuserve. I would like to suggest that IBM >release software updates to its ftp/Web site with the same degree of >timeliness that it releases software to the Compuserve support forum. >Most recently, IBM has released Win95 MWAVE drivers on Compuserve but >failed to put them on the ftp/Web site (it is also interesting to note >that IBM also releases software updates to Compuserve before posting >on its own dialup BBS). I just thought I'd ad a couple of pennies in here... :) You and the list may or may not be aware of this, but basically everytime someone logs into Compu$erve and goes to the IBM forum--IBM makes a little chunk of change. For *very* many companies, Compuserve is a profit center--a little money machine. Compuserve splits a portion of the fee to the companies with forums on Compuserve, because they know when people go into those forums, that is the reason for calling Compuserve in the first place. Given this information, its not particularly rational for IBM to steer anyone to its BBS or an FTP site--the bottom line is that they make a buck when you dial in to Compuserve. I'm sure they'd prefer that you call Compuserve! ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 21 18:28:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00054; Tue, 21 Nov 95 18:28:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14008; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:27:07 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:26:35 -0500 Received: from PEAK.ORG by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13929; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:26:31 -0500 Received: from leejim.peak.org ([198.68.20.35]) by PEAK.ORG (8.6.12/8.6.7) with SMTP id PAA15379; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:17:27 -0800 Message-Id: <199511212317.PAA15379@PEAK.ORG> Sender: From: "Jim Lee" Organization: Diamond Quest Consulting To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:17:16 -8 Subject: Re: TP701C w/New Media Bus Toaster? Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) > Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 22:26:19 +0100 > To: "Jim Lee" > From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) > Subject: Re: TP701C w/New Media Bus Toaster? > >I have no problems at all with the Bus Toaster/TP701C combo, but I'm > >running Linux and Win95. Haven't tried it under DOS/Win (and never > >will... :-) > Hate to burst your bubble, but Win95 is still DOS/Win.:) They just package > it differently. I'm told that all but the graphical parts of win95 will > run under an OS2 virtual DOS machine. > > ---------------------------- > Victor Kress > Geophysical Laboratory > 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. > Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 > (202) 686-2410 x2489 > --------------------------- > > > Don't worry, my "bubble" is still intact :-). As an operating systems designer, I am well aware of the similarities between Win95 and DOS/Win31. However, it's not as cut-and-dried as you describe. My original comment was meant to amplify the differences between Win95 and DOS/Win in the area of hardware configuration. However, this is not the place to discuss operating systems, so I will respectfully decline to comment further... ---------- Jim Lee Diamond Quest Consulting leejim@peak.org 30563 Ridge St http://www.peak.org/~leejim Lebanon, OR 97355 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 21 18:58:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04211; Tue, 21 Nov 95 18:58:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16061; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:57:51 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:54:41 -0500 Received: from cocoa.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15816; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:54:38 -0500 Received: from mailhub.cts.com (mailhub.cts.com [192.188.72.25]) by cocoa.brown.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA16976 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 18:54:35 -0500 Received: from c2laptop.iaco.com by mailhub.cts.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #20) id m0tI2WF-000VMPC; Tue, 21 Nov 95 15:54 PST Message-Id: Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Christopher Cunningham" Organization: Internet Advertising Corp. To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu, brown-lists-tp750@cocoa.brown.edu Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 15:53:57 +0000 Subject: Re: IBM Support Reply-To: c2@iaco.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.22) Good point, I was aware of this but I thought that I had already paid for support in the form of one of the more expensive laptops around. Afterall, if you purchase a new laptop from IBM and ask about support, they will tell you about their BBS, Compuserve, and the Internet - they don't indicate that only one of these channels receives prompt updates. Why doesn't IBM respond in this forum? If their policy is to charge for support through Compuserve they should just say so and put the issue to bed. - Christopher Cunningham > I just thought I'd ad a couple of pennies in here... :) > > You and the list may or may not be aware of this, but basically > everytime someone logs into Compu$erve and goes to the IBM forum--IBM makes > a little chunk of change. For *very* many companies, Compuserve is a > profit center--a little money machine. Compuserve splits a portion of the > fee to the companies with forums on Compuserve, because they know when > people go into those forums, that is the reason for calling Compuserve in > the first place. > > Given this information, its not particularly rational for IBM to > steer anyone to its BBS or an FTP site--the bottom line is that they make a > buck when you dial in to Compuserve. I'm sure they'd prefer that you call > Compuserve! From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 21 20:53:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14656; Tue, 21 Nov 95 20:53:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23834; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 20:52:45 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 20:50:03 -0500 Received: from emout05.mail.aol.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23501; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 20:49:58 -0500 From: Received: by emout05.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA08598; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 20:48:05 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 20:48:05 -0500 Message-Id: <951121204804_30152366@emout05.mail.aol.com> To: c2@iaco.com, TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: IBM Support- File posting NOT consistent! In a message dated 95-11-21 12:57:24 EST, c2@iaco.com (Christopher Cunningham) writes: >I would like to suggest that IBM >release software updates to its ftp/Web site with the same degree of >timeliness that it releases software to the Compuserve support forum. >Most recently, IBM has released Win95 MWAVE drivers on Compuserve but >failed to put them on the ftp/Web site (it is also interesting to note >that IBM also releases software updates to Compuserve before posting >on its own dialup BBS). AGREE!! I also noticed that the files posted in the BBS are not the same as the FTP/Web site. For example, I recently downloaded the file 750_TIPS.TXT from the FTP site and found the file very interesting and useful for fine tuning my 755C with the latest updated drivers, etc. However it seems like the file has now disappeared from the FTP site ( I thought that I had gone crazy since it was there couple days ago) and it seems to remain in the BBS under section [37] Thinkpad files. I don't know about Compuserve though. I wish IBM can be consistent in their file postings!!! I'm afraid that I'm missing some extremely useful files and information that are posted elsewhere. -Mark M. (Mark3M@aol.com) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 21 22:18:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25591; Tue, 21 Nov 95 22:18:51 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA00327; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 22:18:11 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 21 Nov 1995 22:16:27 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29987; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 22:16:19 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id TAA24119; Tue, 21 Nov 1995 19:16:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 19:16:12 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: starting from scratch ... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII looks like i kind of have to. i bought the 750cx used, and the guy removed all this stuff by hand, so plug and play doesnt happen, and in general, its kinda wacked out. so, i figure to low level format the c-drive, get a cd-rom hooked up somehow, and go from there (what i typically do when i get a used machine anyway) to install windows95 (then linux). anything i should be aware of ? i know that ibm does ship floppies of everything in case you need to do just that. doug From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 22 03:15:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20801; Wed, 22 Nov 95 03:15:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21290; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 03:15:03 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 03:12:18 -0500 Received: from hpserv0.cs.uit.no by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA21029; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 03:12:11 -0500 Received: from haralds.cs.uit.no by hpserv0.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/Task/HJ-5) id AA131827928; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 09:12:08 +0100 Received: by haralds.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/HJ/Task-5) id AA189627961; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 09:12:41 +0100 From: harald@staff.cs.uit.no (Harald Skotnes) Message-Id: <199511220812.AA189627961@haralds.cs.uit.no> Subject: Discontinued Thinkpads To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 09:12:41 +0100 (MET) Cc: orjanr@staff.cs.uit.no X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23GIJ-4] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit FYI, These TP's are not available anymore.......... > > -----Announcement Letter 995123----- > > Hardware Withdrawal: Selected ThinkPad Systems > > Product Announcement 995-123 > Announced on November 21, 1995 > > > Effective December 21, 1995, IBM will withdraw from marketing the > following products. After December 21, 1995, you will no longer be > able to obtain these products directly from IBM. You can obtain the > products on an as-available basis through IBM authorized remarketers > with an approved value add, IBM Authorized Personal Computer Dealers, > or by calling PC Direct(1) at 800-IBM-2YOU (426-2968). > > Machine Part > Description Type/Model Number > > ThinkPad(R) 360C (170MB) 2620-30D 262030D > ThinkPad 360C (340MB) 2620-30F 262030F > > ThinkPad 360Cs (340MB, 33MHz, DSTN) 2620-R0F 2620R0F > > ThinkPad 360P (340MB) 2620-50F 262050F > > ThinkPad 360CE (TFT, 340MB) 2620-90F 262090F > ThinkPad 360CE (TFT, 540MB) 2620-90G 262090G > > ThinkPad 360CSE (DSTN, 340MB) 2620-80F 262080F > ThinkPad 360CSE (DSTN, 540MB) 2620-80G 262080G > ThinkPad 360CSE (DSTN, 540MB, > with Audio) 2620-T0G 2620T0G > > ThinkPad 701C (TFT, 360MB, DX2, 4MB) 2630-UT2 2630UT2 > ThinkPad 701C (TFT, 540MB, DX2, 4MB) 2630-UT5 2630UT5 > ThinkPad 701C (DSTN, 360MB, DX2, 4MB) 2630-US2 2630US2 > ThinkPad 701C (DSTN, 540MB, DX2, 4MB) 2630-US5 2630US5 > > ThinkPad 755C (340MB, 50MHz) 9545-F0E 9545F0E > ThinkPad 755C (540MB, 50MHz) 9545-F0G 9545F0G > ThinkPad 755C (340MB, 75MHz) 9545-L0E 9545L0E > ThinkPad 755C (540MB, 75MHz) 9545-L0G 9545L0G > > Traveling Multimedia for the > IBM ThinkPad 755C 2337289 > > ThinkPad 755CSE (340MB, 100MHz) 9545-6BC 95456BC > ThinkPad 755CSE (540MB, 100MHz) 9545-6BD 95456BD > ThinkPad 755CSE (810MB, 100MHz) 9545-6BE 95456BE > ThinkPad 755CE (340MB, 100MHz) 9545-7BC 95457BC > ThinkPad 755CE (540MB, 100MHz) 9545-7BD 95457BD > ThinkPad 755CE (810MB, 100MHz) 9545-7BE 95457BE > > > Replacement Product Information: None > > (1) Trademark of Ziff Communications Company and is used by IBM > Corporation under license. > (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines > Corporation > > > > > > > DESCRIPTION > > "The summary above is the entire text of this announcement." > > -- //// Harald Skotnes // Email: harald@staff.cs.uit.no / /// Dept. of Computer Science // Phone: +47 77 64 41 16 // // University of Tromsoe // Fax: +47 77 64 40 54 /// / N-9037 TROMSOE NORWAY // Like it or not, it's One World //// From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 22 06:19:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06305; Wed, 22 Nov 95 06:19:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA10813; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 06:18:19 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 06:16:09 -0500 Received: from cocoa.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA10681; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 06:16:06 -0500 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au (anugpo.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.6]) by cocoa.brown.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id GAA16997 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 06:15:53 -0500 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA06952; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 22:15:35 +1100 From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA26368; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 22:15:32 +1100 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 22:15:31 +1100 (EST) To: Randy Whittle Cc: c2@iaco.com, brown-lists-tp750@cocoa.brown.edu Subject: Re: IBM Support In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII in other words, ibm would rather have us spend our money (and our university's money) on compuserve rather than on thinkpads? Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Randy Whittle wrote: > At 1:50 AM 11/21/95, Christopher Cunningham wrote: > > >I would like to make a suggestion on behalf of a large number of > >ThinkPad users who have access to the Internet although not > >necessarily through Compuserve. I would like to suggest that IBM > >release software updates to its ftp/Web site with the same degree of > >timeliness that it releases software to the Compuserve support forum. > >Most recently, IBM has released Win95 MWAVE drivers on Compuserve but > >failed to put them on the ftp/Web site (it is also interesting to note > >that IBM also releases software updates to Compuserve before posting > >on its own dialup BBS). > > I just thought I'd ad a couple of pennies in here... :) > > You and the list may or may not be aware of this, but basically > everytime someone logs into Compu$erve and goes to the IBM forum--IBM makes > a little chunk of change. For *very* many companies, Compuserve is a > profit center--a little money machine. Compuserve splits a portion of the > fee to the companies with forums on Compuserve, because they know when > people go into those forums, that is the reason for calling Compuserve in > the first place. > > Given this information, its not particularly rational for IBM to > steer anyone to its BBS or an FTP site--the bottom line is that they make a > buck when you dial in to Compuserve. I'm sure they'd prefer that you call > Compuserve! > > ----- ____________________________ > Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | > USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | > "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| > Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- > -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner > > > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 22 09:41:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22302; Wed, 22 Nov 95 09:41:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23772; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 09:38:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 09:35:16 -0500 Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23280; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 09:35:13 -0500 Received: from [192.70.249.32] (mac32.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA20570; Wed, 22 Nov 95 09:35:08 EST Message-Id: <9511221435.AA20570@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:51:13 +0100 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: ADMIN Re: replies in the tp750 forum There are times that I have a minor comment in reply to things I see on this group which I don't think is worth taking everybodys time with. In such a situation I will tend to make a comment directly to the sender, rather than the group at large. I recommend this procedure. Three times now I have had my replies and the replied to's reply to my reply posted to the group. This makes me feel guilty for wasting the whole groups time on a trivial or irrelevant matter. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has had this problem, judging by some of the 'headless replies' I have seen. People should be more careful about checking the sender field of mail they receive. Senders like myself should probably also put a header in their message indicating that the message did not go to the forum. ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 22 10:34:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25818; Wed, 22 Nov 95 10:34:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29881; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:33:29 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:31:40 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29622; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:31:37 -0500 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra-scf2.usc.edu [128.125.73.232]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id HAA15565; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 07:31:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id HAA27020; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 07:31:30 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511221531.HAA27020@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: IBM Support To: Alden.Klovdahl@anu.edu.au (Alden S Klovdahl) Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 07:31:29 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Alden S Klovdahl" at Nov 22, 95 10:15:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > in other words, ibm would rather have us spend our money (and our > university's money) on compuserve rather than on thinkpads? That's a false dichotomy. Its like saying "Because IBM charges so much for parts, they want you to spend your money on parts instead of on more thinkpads." Compuserve is just another way for IBM to make a buck. Given this information, my guess is that they milk this for whatever they can get, then put the files you need onto an FTP site after some period of time (to keep y'all from catching on and getting *too* pissed off). On an individual basis, its not that much $ per person, but on a collective basis--I bet IBM makes a nice little chunk of change. I'm sure their view of it is that most people aren't wise to how they benefit from this presumed strategy and the marginal difference to the consumer is *not* going to affect his/her future purchase of a thinkpad. Look at me--few things made me more pissed off than their unsupported battery life claims on th 750C, yet I bought another TP. I suspect that for all IBM's foibles, the vast majority of ThinkPad owners are happy with their purchase and will likely purchase another one someday. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 22 11:00:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27864; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:00:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02032; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:54:29 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:52:40 -0500 Received: from husc.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01843; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:52:37 -0500 Received: from pop2.fas.harvard.edu by husc.harvard.edu with ESMTP id KAA13082; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:52:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from dvader by pop2.fas.harvard.edu with SMTP id KAA12137 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:59:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2b7.32.19951122154722.006c2724@pop.fas.harvard.edu> X-Sender: chan4@pop.fas.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2b7 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:47:22 -0500 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Derek V. Chan" Subject: Sound in Win95... Okay...I took the plung after I got screwed by IBM and Micro Center and installed Win95 (ditched OS/2...oh well...no apps!). Anyway, is there a way to get the volume bar to work under Multimedia Settings in the Control Panel? I'm running a TP750C/36 Mb. I looked at IBM's web page, but... -- "Women...can't live with 'em, can't kill 'em..." -- Tom Arnold (True Lies) Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com chan4@fas.harvard.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 22 11:46:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00108; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:46:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08489; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 11:44:26 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 11:42:48 -0500 Received: from vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08163; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 11:42:43 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id LAA13668; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 11:40:19 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA2822; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:40:41 -0800 Message-Id: <9511221940.AA2822@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id F340D4FC2E23D21C8525627C005B73B2; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:40:40 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 22 Nov 95 11:39:59 EDT Subject: Re: Sound in Win95... X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....installed Win95 (ditched OS/2...oh well...no apps!). Anyway, is there a way to get the volume bar to work under Multimedia Settings in the Control Panel? I'm running a TP750C/36 Mb. I looked at IBM's web page, but...." ~~~~~ it's been my experience that the multimedia software that comes with win95 overrides any audio controls you may have had previously, be they soundblaster, mwave, or whatever. try using the volume control in the multimedia folder in the accessories folder in the program folder in the start menu... god, i hate windows 95. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 22 11:52:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00219; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:52:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09142; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 11:50:17 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 22 Nov 1995 11:49:26 -0500 Received: from mach1.gs.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09024; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 11:49:24 -0500 Received: from gs.com (postoffice1.gs.com [138.8.220.10]) by mach1.gs.com (8.7.1/8.7.1/mach1) with SMTP id LAA16589 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 11:49:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from fi.gs.com (fi.fi.gs.com) by gs.com (4.1/GOLDMAN-1.0) id AA01209; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:50:07 EST Received: from slsd0.fi.gs.com by fi.gs.com (4.1/SMI-4.2 (FI main hub)) id AA29681; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:49:18 EST Received: from sls062.fi.gs.com by slsd0.fi.gs.com (4.1/FIsubhub-2.7) id AA06167; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:49:16 EST Received: by sls062.fi.gs.com (4.1/FIclient-2.8) id AA07332; Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:49:15 EST Date: Wed, 22 Nov 95 11:49:15 EST Message-Id: <9511221649.AA07332@sls062.fi.gs.com> From: Danny Padwa To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Fuel gadget under Win95? Windows Fuel tool from the Thinkpad Utilities disk....it seems to have trouble reading the state of the battery. Anyone else had any luck with this? Any chance for a new version of the Thinkpad tools for Win95 support? Thanks, Danny From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 23 01:08:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14813; Thu, 23 Nov 95 01:08:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09597; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 01:07:52 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 01:00:30 -0500 Received: from ripspost.aist.go.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA09234; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 01:00:17 -0500 Received: from bhpom.nibh.go.jp by ripspost.aist.go.jp (8.6.9+2.4W/TISN-1.3/R2-AIST) id PAA24400; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 15:00:01 +0900 Received: by bhpom.nibh.go.jp (8.6.12+2.5Wb7/6.4J.6-nibh.MASTER) id PAA11370; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 15:02:39 +0900 Received: by human.nibh.go.jp (8.6.12+2.5Wb7/6.4J.6-ipri92sep) id OAA24081; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 14:59:59 +0900 Message-Id: <199511230559.OAA24081@human.nibh.go.jp> X-Sender: b0018@150.29.56.34 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 14:56:45 +0900 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Akira TERAO Subject: Re: Fuel gadget under Win95? At 11:49 AM 22/11/95 EST, Danny Padwa wrote: >Windows Fuel tool from the Thinkpad Utilities disk....it seems to have >trouble reading the state of the battery. > > Anyone else had any luck with this? Any chance for a new >version of the Thinkpad tools for Win95 support? I have the same problem with Windows 3.1: the battery status is not displayed and even the status icons (power mode, charging/recycling) are not updated. The whole window looks just like a static icon. I had to come back to an older version. Akira =============================================================================== National Institute of Bioscience and Human-Technology ... jeunesse... Nervous Informatics Laboratory ... la ... 1-1 Higashi, Tsukuba ... forment ... Tel: +81-298-54.6630 Ibaraki 305 ... voyages ... Fax: +81-298-54.6633 Japan ... Les ... eMail: Terao@NIBH.go.jp =============================================================================== From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 23 01:30:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15977; Thu, 23 Nov 95 01:30:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10500; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 01:29:41 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 01:28:35 -0500 Received: from denver.ssds.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10420; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 01:28:32 -0500 Received: from freke.ssds.com (rem_den29.ssds.com [134.127.122.29]) by denver.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) with SMTP id XAA04067; Wed, 22 Nov 1995 23:27:52 -0700 Message-Id: <199511230627.XAA04067@denver.ssds.com> X-Sender: cds@denver.ssds.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 00:26:51 -0600 To: Michael Verne/VENTANA , tp750 From: "Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson)" Subject: Sound, Games, and Win95 Greetings, I have a 755CE with the v2.0 MWave code, and I have some questions. Sound works most of the time, however, I can not get it working with the latest doom engine (or any doom engine), but it will work with Heritic. Any clues? Regards, -+Chris ( ( | ( Chris Liljenstolpe ) ) (| ), inc. SSDS, Inc; 8400 Normandale Lake Blvd. Suite 993 business driven Bloomington, MN 55437; technology solutions 612.921.2392 FAX 612.921.2395 Um Yah Yah! From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 23 05:41:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00457; Thu, 23 Nov 95 05:41:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA02663; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 05:41:13 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 05:38:40 -0500 Received: from next.lbs.lon.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA02300; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 05:38:22 -0500 Received: by next.lbs.lon.ac.uk (NX5.67e/NeXT-1.0(KJW-19Apr90)) id AA01571; Wed, 22 Nov 95 18:33:32 GMT Message-Id: <9511221833.AA01571@next.lbs.lon.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Ivo Welch Date: Wed, 22 Nov 95 18:33:32 GMT To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Warnings: mwave modem, pkzip Reply-To: ivo@next.lbs.lon.ac.uk [1] I just tried to use the 1-month-old mwave 2.0 software fax modem for the first time under Windows 3.11. I used the Windows terminal program. Well, I got an internal error when it started to actually dial, and I could no longer shut down Windows. After a reboot, win.exe and the windows\system subdirectory is gone. Deleted. "Lovely." Of course, under Windows, one never knows what causes a problem, but I did not run anything else before the mwave modem. [2] I made an earlier backup of my hard disk using pkzip. Unfortunately, for some reason (probably the fact that PC-DOS 7 is different from MS-DOS 6), it failed to include directory information. So, I spent the last couple of hours piecing back together the windows\system directory. More "lovely." Incidentally, on startup, I now get a window with "MWME0001:MWave Modem Internal Error. Primary Code:4, Secondary Code:0, file mwmparse.c. Line: 1561." /ivo welch From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 23 06:19:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06426; Thu, 23 Nov 95 06:19:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA05645; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 06:18:41 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 06:17:43 -0500 Received: from estgtw.estec.esa.nl by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA05582; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 06:17:40 -0500 Received: by estgtw.estec.esa.nl (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA08303; Thu, 23 Nov 95 12:17:37 +0100 Received: from 666.estec.esa.nl by bcops5.estec.esa.nl via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for id MAA01615; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 12:41:35 -0800 Received: by 666.estec.esa.nl with Microsoft Mail id <01BAB99D.5368EFA0@666.estec.esa.nl>; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 12:15:06 +-100 Message-Id: <01BAB99D.5368EFA0@666.estec.esa.nl> From: Damon Randall To: "'Thinkpad'" Subject: 750c & PCMCIA Modem... Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 12:15:02 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi.. Can anyone help with this; Trying to configure thinkpad 750c with IBM PCMCIA High Speed Modem (IBM = Model Number FC3635) Can someone tell me the correct card services software for use with the = thinkpad 750c. At the moment we have the pc card director version 3.00 with Dos card = services driver 2.21 and pcmcia card services rel. 2.10 When we use the EZPLAY program the software informs me that there are = both slot 1 & 2 are empty... This is happening with any pcmcia including = IBM Ethernet cards & 3com Etherlink3 cards as well... Can anybody help? Damon Randall Mail: demon@bcops5.estec.esa.nl ISD Projects Team ESA / Estec Noordwijk The Netherlands From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 23 07:07:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11479; Thu, 23 Nov 95 07:07:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07696; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 07:07:18 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 07:05:24 -0500 Received: from alf.uib.no by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07489; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 07:03:44 -0500 Received: from novlpr.uib.no by alf.uib.no with SMTP (PP); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 13:02:54 +0100 Received: From EDBSENT1/WORKQUEUE1 by novlpr.uib.no via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.951123130211.416; 23 Nov 95 13:02:54 -100 Message-Id: From: Thor +ivind Jensen Organization: AORG.UIB.NO To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 13:05:02 MET Subject: (Fwd) Re: Fuel gadget under Win95? Reply-To: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.11a) ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Reply-to: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 13:03:44 > Windows Fuel tool from the Thinkpad Utilities disk....it seems to have > trouble reading the state of the battery. I have the same problem with the latest "fuelwin.exe" under WFW 3.11 on my old (?) TP 750C. I had to reinstall the old (1993) version, and it works. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 23 18:04:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27451; Thu, 23 Nov 95 18:04:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12300; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 17:57:22 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 17:53:00 -0500 Received: from abaco.coastalnet.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11984; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 17:52:58 -0500 Received: from pm-mhc2-26.coastalnet.com by abaco.coastalnet.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29435; Thu, 23 Nov 95 17:52:01 EST Date: Thu, 23 Nov 95 17:51:59 EST Message-Id: <9511232252.AA29435@abaco.coastalnet.com> X-Sender: cn2223@abaco.coastalnet.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Capt. Dick Collins" Subject: tp760C/CD owners pls rpt First: Thanks to keith Moore & all others who make this "list" group GO Second: Retired from Navy & UAL as Capt. 12 yrs ago & started our inn . We have used org tp700 for last 3 years; closet & hard drive full-- so considering upgrade to "First Class" with tp760C/CD series. Third: All "in the field" results with this series will be very helpful to us; as well as others who are looking at this new unit. Sincere Thanks Capt. Dick Captains' Quarters of Beaufort 315 Ann St. Beaufort, NC. 28516 ph 1-919-728-7711 & 1-800-659-7111 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 23 19:54:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00242; Thu, 23 Nov 95 19:54:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17187; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:51:42 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:50:32 -0500 Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17073; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:50:29 -0500 Received: from ppp-jesse (chum-26.ppp.hooked.net [204.212.195.26]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA12633 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 16:50:17 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 16:50:17 -0800 Message-Id: <199511240050.QAA12633@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Thinkpad Mailing List From: jesse montrose Subject: RFR (request for rumors?) This has been asked before, but I'm still curious.. I have a 755, and had planned to go to a 760, but am loath to take on the additional weight. I'd love to switch to the 701 form factor, any rumors about the next incarnation of the butterfly? ____________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 23 20:11:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00399; Thu, 23 Nov 95 20:11:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16718; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:40:22 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:37:38 -0500 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA16594; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:37:32 -0500 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA09611; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 11:37:15 +1100 From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA07217; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 11:37:11 +1100 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 11:37:11 +1100 (EST) To: "Capt. Dick Collins" Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: tp760C/CD owners pls rpt In-Reply-To: <9511232252.AA29435@abaco.coastalnet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII be good if tp760c/cd experiences would be posted. regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 23 22:06:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10673; Thu, 23 Nov 95 22:06:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23679; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 21:53:30 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 21:50:54 -0500 Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23470; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 21:50:50 -0500 Received: (from alster@localhost) by alster.port.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA10339; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 10:51:24 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 10:51:23 -0500 (EST) From: retsla X-Sender: alster@alster.port.net Cc: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: RFR (request for rumors?) In-Reply-To: <199511240050.QAA12633@mom.hooked.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 23 Nov 1995, jesse montrose wrote: > This has been asked before, but I'm still curious.. I have a 755, and had > planned to go to a 760, but am loath to take on the additional weight. > > I'd love to switch to the 701 form factor, any rumors about the next > incarnation of the butterfly? Rumor is 5-pound, 1" thick ..no Butterfly keyboard http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 23 22:43:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12431; Thu, 23 Nov 95 22:43:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26018; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 22:33:04 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 23 Nov 1995 22:31:49 -0500 Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25823; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 22:31:47 -0500 Received: from ppp-jesse (tuna-46.ppp.hooked.net [204.212.195.174]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA24784 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:31:36 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:31:36 -0800 Message-Id: <199511240331.TAA24784@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@mailhost.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Thinkpad Mailing List From: jesse montrose Subject: Re: RFR (request for rumors?) At 10:51 AM 11/24/95 -0500, retsla wrote: >On Thu, 23 Nov 1995, jesse montrose wrote: >> I'd love to switch to the 701 form factor, any rumors about the next >> incarnation of the butterfly? > >Rumor is 5-pound, 1" thick ..no Butterfly keyboard Bummer, but thanks.. does that mean more along the lines of the 500? That surprises me, I thought the butterfly keyboard had been well received. Jesse (big hands) Montrose ____________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 24 08:19:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15776; Fri, 24 Nov 95 08:19:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04753; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 08:18:55 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 24 Nov 1995 08:16:25 -0500 Received: from Starbase.NeoSoft.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA04555; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 08:16:22 -0500 Received: from hac016.ep.hess.com (ottoman@starbase.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.6.26]) by Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id HAA24824; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 07:14:36 -0600 (CST) Received: by hac016.ep.hess.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BABA3C.AE9C6880@hac016.ep.hess.com>; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 07:15:49 -0600 Message-Id: <01BABA3C.AE9C6880@hac016.ep.hess.com> From: "Otto J. Helweg" To: "'Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson)'" , "'tp750@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: RE: Sound, Games, and Win95 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 07:13:26 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable With the v.2.0 drivers, sound seems to be stable with Windows 95 and = Doom. But I installed the drivers both in the old DOS mode and Win95 = mode. And I'm running Doom in the old DOS mode (F8 out of Win95 = bootup..... but I'm also setup for dualboot). -otto ---------- From: Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson)[SMTP:Chris.Liljenstolpe@ssds.com] Sent: Thursday, November 23, 1995 12:26 AM To: Michael Verne/VENTANA; tp750 Subject: Sound, Games, and Win95 Greetings, I have a 755CE with the v2.0 MWave code, and I have some = questions. Sound works most of the time, however, I can not get it working with the latest doom engine (or any doom engine), but it will work with Heritic. = Any clues? Regards, -+Chris ( ( | ( Chris Liljenstolpe = ) ) (| ), inc. SSDS, Inc; 8400 Normandale Lake Blvd. Suite = 993 business driven Bloomington, MN 55437;=20 technology solutions 612.921.2392 FAX 612.921.2395 Um Yah = Yah! =20 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 24 08:50:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17121; Fri, 24 Nov 95 08:50:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA12666; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 03:44:24 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 24 Nov 1995 03:37:18 -0500 Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA11873; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 03:37:00 -0500 Received: (from alster@localhost) by alster.port.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA10543; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 15:34:04 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 15:34:04 -0500 (EST) From: retsla X-Sender: alster@alster.port.net Cc: Thinkpad Mailing List Subject: Re: RFR (request for rumors?) In-Reply-To: <199511240331.TAA24784@mom.hooked.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 23 Nov 1995, jesse montrose wrote: > At 10:51 AM 11/24/95 -0500, retsla wrote: > >On Thu, 23 Nov 1995, jesse montrose wrote: > >> I'd love to switch to the 701 form factor, any rumors about the next > >> incarnation of the butterfly? > > > >Rumor is 5-pound, 1" thick ..no Butterfly keyboard > > Bummer, but thanks.. > > does that mean more along the lines of the 500? That surprises me, I > thought the butterfly keyboard had been well received. PC week says, "IBM will release early next year a 5-pound, 1-inch-thick unit that sports an Intel Corp. Pentium processor, a 12.1-inch display, and an external floppy drive..." 1" thick is -really- thin .....like the DEC Hi-Lite Ultra ...or whatever it's called... And... "IBM is also considering incorporating into new notebooks in 1996 a 13.3-inch display made by Display Technologies..." ....aieee http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 24 09:04:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17449; Fri, 24 Nov 95 09:04:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07268; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 09:04:06 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 24 Nov 1995 09:03:10 -0500 Received: from hk.super.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07108; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 09:03:06 -0500 From: Received: from is3.hk.super.net (root@is3.hk.super.net [202.14.67.36]) by hk.super.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA07701 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 22:02:54 +0800 (HKT) Received: from 202.64.11.20 (slip227.hk.super.net [202.64.11.20]) by is3.hk.super.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id WAA18196 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 22:02:52 +0800 (HKT) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 22:02:52 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: <199511241402.WAA18196@is3.hk.super.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: TP750c Battery To: tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 Does anyone knwo a good place/price for a IBM Thinkpad battery? Thanks Leung ltkwok@hk.super.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Nov 24 13:14:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07368; Fri, 24 Nov 95 13:14:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21840; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 13:12:18 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 24 Nov 1995 13:08:58 -0500 Received: from PEAK.ORG by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21584; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 13:08:55 -0500 Received: from leejim.peak.org ([198.68.20.35]) by PEAK.ORG (8.6.12/8.6.7) with SMTP id KAA06762 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 10:08:39 -0800 Message-Id: <199511241808.KAA06762@PEAK.ORG> Sender: From: "Jim Lee" Organization: Diamond Quest Consulting To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 10:05:40 -8 Subject: Re: TP750c Battery Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) > From: > Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 22:02:52 +0800 (HKT) > Subject: TP750c Battery > To: tp750@cs.utk.edu > Does anyone knwo a good place/price for a IBM Thinkpad battery? > > Thanks > Leung > ltkwok@hk.super.net > Well, a good place for one would be in a Thinkpad.. :-) (Sorry, couldn't resist). Seriously, what type do you want (NiCd, NiMH, LiIon), and for what model Thinkpad? ---------- Jim Lee Diamond Quest Consulting leejim@peak.org 30563 Ridge St http://www.peak.org/~leejim Lebanon, OR 97355 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 25 00:55:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14498; Sat, 25 Nov 95 00:55:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00652; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 00:54:45 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 25 Nov 1995 00:48:32 -0500 Received: from denver.ssds.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00462; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 00:48:16 -0500 Received: from freke.ssds.com (rem_den29.ssds.com [134.127.122.29]) by denver.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) with SMTP id WAA07118; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 22:46:53 -0700 Message-Id: <199511250546.WAA07118@denver.ssds.com> X-Sender: cds@denver.ssds.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 23:45:45 -0600 To: "Jim Lee" , tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson)" Subject: Re: TP750c Battery Greetings, I am also interested in either a NiCad or LiIon for a 755CE. Who has the best price? Regards, -=Chris At 10:05 95/11/24 -8, Jim Lee wrote: >> From: >> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 22:02:52 +0800 (HKT) >> Subject: TP750c Battery >> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu > >> Does anyone knwo a good place/price for a IBM Thinkpad battery? >> >> Thanks >> Leung >> ltkwok@hk.super.net >> > >Well, a good place for one would be in a Thinkpad.. :-) (Sorry, >couldn't resist). Seriously, what type do you want (NiCd, NiMH, >LiIon), and for what model Thinkpad? >---------- >Jim Lee Diamond Quest Consulting >leejim@peak.org 30563 Ridge St >http://www.peak.org/~leejim Lebanon, OR 97355 > > ( ( | ( Chris Liljenstolpe ) ) (| ), inc. SSDS, Inc; 8400 Normandale Lake Blvd. Suite 993 business driven Bloomington, MN 55437; technology solutions 612.921.2392 FAX 612.921.2395 Um Yah Yah! From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 25 11:38:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19612; Sat, 25 Nov 95 11:38:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07590; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 11:35:04 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 25 Nov 1995 11:28:19 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07200; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 11:28:09 -0500 Received: from castor.usc.edu (whittle@castor.usc.edu [128.125.253.170]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA16018 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 08:27:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by castor.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA09497 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 08:27:55 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199511251627.IAA09497@castor.usc.edu> Subject: 750C Memory & TV Tuner To: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 08:27:55 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It seems I have a buyer for my TP 750C, but the person is particularly interested in lots of memory expandiblity. I've never known personally about memory cards bigger than 16 MB in the 750, but I don't know that a 32 MB card was available and worked. Does anyone? Also, if I may... I have a TV Tuner module available for anyone who is interested. It works with (as I understand) all of the 75X series ThinkPads. If you would like it, please E-mail me with an offer and we can discuss. Many thanks! ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 25 14:58:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00027; Sat, 25 Nov 95 14:58:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA17153; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 14:57:49 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 25 Nov 1995 14:53:44 -0500 Received: from odyssee.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16902; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 14:53:39 -0500 Received: from pool6_8.odyssee.net by odyssee.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27352; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 14:53:34 -0500 Received: by pool6_8.odyssee.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BABB45.6F0D7380@pool6_8.odyssee.net>; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 14:50:59 -0500 Message-Id: <01BABB45.6F0D7380@pool6_8.odyssee.net> From: "A. Di Meglio" To: "'tp750@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Where are the new MWave drivers for Windows 95 ? Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 14:50:20 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know the new Mwave drivers for Win95 are, apart from Compuserve. Regards Neil ! From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Nov 25 20:05:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24726; Sat, 25 Nov 95 20:05:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03112; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 20:04:38 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 25 Nov 1995 20:01:37 -0500 Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02966; Sat, 25 Nov 1995 20:01:23 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Nov 95 20:01 EST From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Msg of Sat, 25 Nov 1995 08:27:55 -0800 (PST) from Randal Whittle Subject: 750C Memory & TV Tuner It seems I have a buyer for my TP 750C, but the person is particularly interested in lots of memory expandiblity. I've never known personally about memory cards bigger than 16 MB in the 750, but I don't know that a 32 MB card was available and worked. Does anyone? Kingston makes such a card, and we've been using them in 750C and 755C models with great success. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 08:56:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23601; Mon, 27 Nov 95 08:56:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24765; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 08:54:51 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 08:46:51 -0500 Received: from hk.super.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24052; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 08:46:47 -0500 From: Received: from is3.hk.super.net (root@is3.hk.super.net [202.14.67.36]) by hk.super.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA25670 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:46:41 +0800 (HKT) Received: from 202.64.12.8 (slip279.hk.super.net [202.64.12.8]) by is3.hk.super.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id VAA27377 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:46:40 +0800 (HKT) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:46:40 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: <199511271346.VAA27377@is3.hk.super.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Accessories To: tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 Odes any know what would be a good place (& price) to get accessories for the TP750? Of particular interest is an extra battery & power supply. Thanks in advance. Leung ltkwok@hk.super.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 09:46:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26908; Mon, 27 Nov 95 09:46:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29253; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:44:58 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:43:47 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28747; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:40:31 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Mon, 27 Nov 95 15:37:06 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: DIMM-RAM for the 755CX? To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:37:03 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text I need a 16MB RAM-upgrade (DIMM) for the TP755CX. IMB's RAM is quite expensive so I'd prefer to go for the cheaper version. Do you have good or bad experiences with particular brands? Anything I should be aware of? Thanks Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 10:03:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27851; Mon, 27 Nov 95 10:03:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00991; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:01:13 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:58:27 -0500 Received: from is.nyu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00557; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:58:24 -0500 Received: from KLENNER.NR.RES.NYU.EDU by is.nyu.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/23Sep94-1121PM) id AA10891; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:58:18 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:58:18 -0500 Message-Id: <9511271458.AA10891@is.nyu.edu> X-Sender: mdk1143@is.nyu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Klenner Subject: WTB: ThinkPad 755ce or cx Hi folks, My venerable 360ce still chugs away and does what I need it to do just wonderfully, but I need a second machine now. I'm in the immediate market for a ThinkPad 755CE or possibly a 755CX. If anyone here needs to part with such a machine at a fair price, please let me know about your configuration and asking price, ASAP. In the meantime, I have the follwing question: Are ThinkPad hard drives hot-swappable? I am considering getting a second internal drive as opposed to an external drive or removable media drive, but if I were to pick up an 810 or so, would I need to install an operating system and all, or could I boot from my primary drive and hot-swap in the second? My feeling is, probably not. Thanks guys. --- Michael Klenner mdk1143@is.nyu.edu mklenner@pacificnet.net http://pages.nyu.edu/~mdk1143 --- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 11:52:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19808; Mon, 27 Nov 95 11:52:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12385; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:49:12 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:45:33 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11935; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:45:29 -0500 Received: from [128.125.224.83] (comserv-i-43.usc.edu [128.125.224.115]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with SMTP id IAA01789; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 08:45:13 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 08:53:27 -0800 To: Michael Klenner , TP750@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: WTB: ThinkPad 755ce or cx At 9:58 AM 11/27/95, Michael Klenner wrote: >Are ThinkPad hard drives hot-swappable? I am considering getting a second >internal drive as opposed to an external drive or removable media drive, but >if I were to pick up an 810 or so, would I need to install an operating >system and all, or could I boot from my primary drive and hot-swap in the >second? My feeling is, probably not. I'm 99% certain there is no way you can do this. You'd have to shut down the system, insert the new drive, and boot off of the new drive. Since the whole command processor is geared to what it sees at boot time, switching that around afterwards would be a real problem. Even removable drives like a SyQuest require that it *not* be the boot drive if you intend to switch cartridges around while running. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 12:01:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20227; Mon, 27 Nov 95 12:01:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13179; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:57:42 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:55:50 -0500 Received: from inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12929; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:55:40 -0500 Received: from inc.net by inc.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03522; Mon, 27 Nov 95 10:28:11 CST Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 10:28:09 CST Message-Id: <9511271628.AA03522@inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Joseph C. Wilson" Subject: Re: DIMM-RAM for the 755CX? At 03:37 PM 11/27/95 +0100, you wrote: >I need a 16MB RAM-upgrade (DIMM) for the TP755CX. IMB's RAM is quite expensive >so I'd prefer to go for the cheaper version. Do you have good or bad >experiences with particular brands? Anything I should be aware of? > Be sure you get the DIMM Adapter (IBM PC Direct Part# 84G2151, $105.00 (US) as of about 11/1/95). To the best of my knowledge, there are no "ThinkPad Proven" DIMM vendors at this time. We are ordering some memory upgrades for our 755cx's and elected to go w/ IBM despite the price premium. Our feeling was the premium is worth the lack of any possible incompatibilities/problems on such a sensitive part of our systems. You might also want to look at the IC-DRAM memory modules as they can be more easily found and do not require an adapter. Downside is that should you want to upgrade at a later time you have to replace the entire module. Good luck Joe Wilson josephw@beta.inc.net Milwaukee, WI From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 13:19:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25266; Mon, 27 Nov 95 13:19:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20130; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:16:28 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:11:40 -0500 Received: from denver.ssds.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19541; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:11:32 -0500 Received: from freke.ssds.com ([134.127.38.53]) by denver.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) with SMTP id LAA14371; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:09:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199511271809.LAA14371@denver.ssds.com> X-Sender: cds@denver.ssds.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 12:08:23 -0600 To: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle), Michael Klenner , TP750@cs.utk.edu From: "Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson)" Subject: Re: WTB: ThinkPad 755ce or cx Greetings, Actually, I can put the nail in the coffin. You can *not* hot-swap the boot drive on the Thinkpad. If you try, there is a good chance that either the drive or the thinkpad will require service. Regards, -=Chris At 08:53 95/11/27 -0800, Randy Whittle wrote: >At 9:58 AM 11/27/95, Michael Klenner wrote: > >>Are ThinkPad hard drives hot-swappable? I am considering getting a second >>internal drive as opposed to an external drive or removable media drive, but >>if I were to pick up an 810 or so, would I need to install an operating >>system and all, or could I boot from my primary drive and hot-swap in the >>second? My feeling is, probably not. > > I'm 99% certain there is no way you can do this. You'd have to >shut down the system, insert the new drive, and boot off of the new drive. > > Since the whole command processor is geared to what it sees at boot >time, switching that around afterwards would be a real problem. > > Even removable drives like a SyQuest require that it *not* be the >boot drive if you intend to switch cartridges around while running. > >----- ____________________________ >Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | >USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | > "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| > Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- > -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner > > > > ( ( | ( Chris Liljenstolpe ) ) (| ), inc. SSDS, Inc; 8400 Normandale Lake Blvd. Suite 993 business driven Bloomington, MN 55437; technology solutions 612.921.2392 FAX 612.921.2395 Um Yah Yah! From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 14:47:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00184; Mon, 27 Nov 95 14:47:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28397; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:44:58 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:42:22 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28059; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:42:09 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA02966; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:42:58 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:36:51 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: "Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson)" Cc: Randy Whittle , Michael Klenner , TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: WTB: ThinkPad 755ce or cx In-Reply-To: <199511271809.LAA14371@denver.ssds.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson) wrote: > Greetings, > > Actually, I can put the nail in the coffin. You can *not* hot-swap > the boot drive on the Thinkpad. If you try, there is a good chance that > either the drive or the thinkpad will require service. Indeed. These drives are simply IDE drives, and can no more be live disconnected than the one in a desktop machine can. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 15:32:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05118; Mon, 27 Nov 95 15:32:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03801; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:24:41 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:22:49 -0500 Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03681; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:22:46 -0500 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id OAA20536 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:22:35 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2b7.32.19951127202233.00a52db4@serv0.cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2b7 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:22:33 -0600 To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: 755CD... anything bad? Hi folks, we are considering purchasing a 755CD. we already have 755CE, CX, and lots of 750Cs machines. are than any bad things about the 755CD we should be aware of? do all the extra goodies (like CD-ROM, video-in/out and MIDI, etc) all work well under Windows95? is a 4X CD-ROM available (can you buy a 760 replacement CD-ROM and stick it into the 755CD ultrabay?)? can it take a lithium battery? is the battery life comparible to a 755CE? thanks, Todd --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 16:58:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12923; Mon, 27 Nov 95 16:58:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13136; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 16:55:57 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 16:52:19 -0500 Received: from PEAK.ORG by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA12872; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 16:52:14 -0500 Received: from leejim.peak.org ([198.68.20.35]) by PEAK.ORG (8.6.12/8.6.7) with SMTP id NAA25143 for ; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:51:56 -0800 Message-Id: <199511272151.NAA25143@PEAK.ORG> Sender: From: "Jim Lee" Organization: Diamond Quest Consulting To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:54:16 -8 Subject: (Fwd) Re: DIMM-RAM for the 755CX? Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: Self To: "Joseph C. Wilson" Subject: Re: DIMM-RAM for the 755CX? Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:49:40 > Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 10:28:09 CST > To: tp750@cs.utk.edu > From: "Joseph C. Wilson" > Subject: Re: DIMM-RAM for the 755CX? > At 03:37 PM 11/27/95 +0100, you wrote: > >I need a 16MB RAM-upgrade (DIMM) for the TP755CX. IMB's RAM is quite expensive > >so I'd prefer to go for the cheaper version. Do you have good or bad > >experiences with particular brands? Anything I should be aware of? > > > > > Be sure you get the DIMM Adapter (IBM PC Direct Part# 84G2151, $105.00 (US) > as of about 11/1/95). To the best of my knowledge, there are no "ThinkPad > Proven" DIMM vendors at this time. We are ordering some memory upgrades for > our 755cx's and elected to go w/ IBM despite the price premium. Our feeling > was the premium is worth the lack of any possible incompatibilities/problems > on such a sensitive part of our systems. > > You might also want to look at the IC-DRAM memory modules as they can be > more easily found and do not require an adapter. Downside is that should > you want to upgrade at a later time you have to replace the entire module. > > Good luck > > Joe Wilson > josephw@beta.inc.net > Milwaukee, WI > > Sorry, the DIMM memory modules do not work in the 755CX. I ordered and received one from IBM PC-Direct (16MB). Although it fits physically, the DIMM modules are non-parity and the 755CX needs parity memory (or vice-versa, can't remember). When I discovered this, I called IBM and spoke with one of the design engineers who said this was indeed true, so I returned the DIMM for a 16MB DRAM card instead. IBM has (supposedly) since updated the sales/order system to let the sales people know that 755CX<->DIMM are incompatible. ---------- Jim Lee Diamond Quest Consulting leejim@peak.org 30563 Ridge St http://www.peak.org/~leejim Lebanon, OR 97355 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 17:10:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14395; Mon, 27 Nov 95 17:10:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14279; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:06:59 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:06:20 -0500 Received: from next.lbs.lon.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14150; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:06:13 -0500 Received: by next.lbs.lon.ac.uk (NX5.67e/NeXT-1.0(KJW-19Apr90)) id AA07735; Mon, 27 Nov 95 22:07:07 GMT Message-Id: <9511272207.AA07735@next.lbs.lon.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Ivo Welch Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 22:07:07 GMT To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: DIMM-RAM for the 755CX? Reply-To: ivo@next.lbs.lon.ac.uk References: <199511272151.NAA25143@PEAK.ORG> I am running a Kingston 16MB RAM card in my TP 755CX (looks like a credit card). It had a different Thinkpad model number (350?) written on the box, but the sales person assured me that it also worked in the 755CX---and I have been running fine with it for some weeks now. By the way: I just had my first int'l warranty call to IBM. (I bought the machine in the US, but I am now in the UK.) My 800*600 display went out. They fixed it from Friday 5pm to Monday 10am. I am pleased with this service. /ivo welch From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 20:30:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07513; Mon, 27 Nov 95 20:30:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29334; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:29:28 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:27:20 -0500 Received: from moore.sr.unh.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29105; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:27:18 -0500 Received: (from moore@localhost) by moore.sr.unh.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA00907; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:26:15 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:26:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Andrew M. Moore" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: MWAVE modem under Linux Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've been thrilled with the performance of the 28.8k DSP modem running under OS/2 and Windows on my 755CE. If it has not been done already, I would like to write an MWAVE modem driver for Linux. Where can I find a programmer's guide to the MWAVE modem, or is it so proprietary that I should just be happy with what I've got? -Drew (please reply to moore@moore.sr.unh.edu, as I am not yet on the list) Thanks. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 20:45:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08239; Mon, 27 Nov 95 20:45:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00574; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:43:55 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:43:17 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00472; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:43:13 -0500 Received: from [128.125.223.101] (comserv-f-29.usc.edu [128.125.223.101]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with SMTP id RAA14914; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:42:57 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:51:13 -0800 To: xanadu@radix.net From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: WTB: ThinkPad 755ce or cx Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu At 2:39 PM 11/27/95, kevin king wrote: >> >Are ThinkPad hard drives hot-swappable? > >> I'm 99% certain there is no way you can do this. You'd have to >> shut down the system, insert the new drive, and boot off of the new drive. > >Does this mean that you CAN swap drives if you boot off of a floppy? >Just curious. > >kevin Good point. But as Don Whiteside pointed out, these are just standard IDE drives and by definition can't be hot-swapped. However, if you booted off a floppy and had a SyQuest drive that was your otherwise primary drive, yes, you could easily swap out a SyQuest cartridge for another one--as long as you didn't boot off the SyQuest. But then, a removable like a SyQuest is designed to do that. IDE isn't. Though I know SyQuest has IDE versions. I don't know if you can do it with those--I'm only familiar with SCSI. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Home Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Nov 27 21:10:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09747; Mon, 27 Nov 95 21:10:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02615; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:09:26 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:07:46 -0500 Received: from mail-e.bcc.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02474; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:07:42 -0500 Received: from ts-b.bcc.ac.uk by mail-e.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 01:57:52 +0000 From: ucklw08 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 01:57:51 GMT Message-Id: <50662.9511280157@ts-b.bcc.ac.uk> To: whittle@usc.edu, xanadu@radix.net Subject: Re: WTB: ThinkPad 755ce or cx Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Actually they are EIDE which are a bit different from IDE -- but your main point about them not being hot swappable is stull true. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 01:53:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29141; Tue, 28 Nov 95 01:53:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22009; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 01:48:39 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 01:44:55 -0500 Received: from hoover.stanford.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21778; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 01:44:53 -0500 Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #13307) id <01HY5KF0I9HS005KKM@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Mon, 27 Nov 1995 22:44:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 22:44:53 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson Subject: Modem Won't Dial Phone Card Number To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01HY5KF0J2FM005KKM@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" X-Vms-Cc: ANDRSN Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi-- The modem that came with my 701 C--supposedly a fine road warrior machine!-- can't dial using a phone card such as sprint. I'm using a REXX script under OS2 with dialcmd = 'atdt5551212' and this works--but if expanded to dialcmd = 'atdt18008778000,,xxxxxxxxxx,,xxxxxxxxxxxxxx' it won't even begin dialing; the first set of x's here is 0 plus area code plus number, the second set is my sprint card number. If I break this up into two sets, it dials only the second set. Has anyone solved this problem? Same result in dialing using Windows and Trumpet, where the number is in the trumpsck.ini file. Thanks-- Annelise From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 03:14:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07388; Tue, 28 Nov 95 03:14:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27724; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 03:13:35 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 03:10:14 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA27396; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 03:10:00 -0500 Received: by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp; id RAA28881; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:09:12 +0900 Received: from unknown(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (g3.0.3) id xma028872; Tue, 28 Nov 95 17:08:58 +0900 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id RAA21667; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:09:29 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id RAA15756; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:08:57 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id RAA04838; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:08:56 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Tue, 28 Nov 95 17:07:54 +0900 Message-Id: <9511280807.AA00426@shibuya.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: moore@moore.sr.unh.edu Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: "Andrew M. Moore"'s message of Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:26:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: MWAVE modem under Linux Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp |> If it has not been done already, I would like to write an MWAVE modem driver |> for Linux. Where can I find a programmer's guide to the MWAVE modem, or is |> it so proprietary that I should just be happy with what I've got? I thought about this myself. But considering how much of the modem is software, it's likely to be difficult to take care if it all yourself. But I can tell you I'd sure be interested to be able to use it (and the other DSP devices) under Linux! |> (please reply to moore@moore.sr.unh.edu... This the UNH in Durham? Fall always reminds me of UNH -- I was there in the late 80s. Jeffrey ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey Friedl Omron Corp, Nagaokakyo, Kyoto 617 Japan See my Jap<->Eng dictionary at http://www.wg.omron.co.jp/cgi-bin/j-e and http://enterprise.ic.gc.ca/cgi-bin/j-e From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 07:24:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20865; Tue, 28 Nov 95 07:24:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA19855; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:20:26 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:17:46 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA19696; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:16:46 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Tue, 28 Nov 95 13:16:12 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: (Fwd) Re: DIMM-RAM for the 755CX? To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:16:08 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text > > > Sorry, the DIMM memory modules do not work in the 755CX. I ordered > and received one from IBM PC-Direct (16MB). Although it fits > physically, the DIMM modules are non-parity and the 755CX needs > parity memory (or vice-versa, can't remember). When I discovered > this, I called IBM and spoke with one of the design engineers who > said this was indeed true, so I returned the DIMM for a 16MB DRAM > card instead. IBM has (supposedly) since updated the sales/order > system to let the sales people know that 755CX<->DIMM are > incompatible. > ---------- > Jim Lee Diamond Quest Consulting > leejim@peak.org 30563 Ridge St > http://www.peak.org/~leejim Lebanon, OR 97355 > Does this mean that there is no way to upgrade RAM in the 755CX step by step? IBM offers 32MB DRAM-Cards but if one uses DRAM one can't use more than one card at a time which means that either I buy the 32MB now or I buy 16MB now which I can't use later if I need 32 MB - is it really like this? Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 07:46:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22326; Tue, 28 Nov 95 07:46:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA21212; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:44:51 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:43:59 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA21131; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:43:52 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Tue, 28 Nov 95 13:43:41 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: (Fwd) Re: DIMM-RAM for the 755CX? To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:43:40 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text > Sorry, the DIMM memory modules do not work in the 755CX. I ordered > and received one from IBM PC-Direct (16MB). Although it fits > physically, the DIMM modules are non-parity and the 755CX needs > parity memory (or vice-versa, can't remember). When I discovered > this, I called IBM and spoke with one of the design engineers who > said this was indeed true, so I returned the DIMM for a 16MB DRAM > card instead. IBM has (supposedly) since updated the sales/order > system to let the sales people know that 755CX<->DIMM are > incompatible. > ---------- > Jim Lee Diamond Quest Consulting > leejim@peak.org 30563 Ridge St > http://www.peak.org/~leejim Lebanon, OR 97355 > I just phoned the German IBM PC-Direct and they told me I can use the same DIMM-modules as in, e.g., the 755CE (but I could NOT use DRAM from a 755CE machine...). It's been my experience that the IBM sales people normally don't know much about hardware. Is it possible that they changed something in the 755CX such that you can use DIMM? Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 09:13:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28325; Tue, 28 Nov 95 09:13:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28187; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:11:59 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:07:03 -0500 Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27683; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:06:58 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Nov 95 09:06 EST From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp Cc: moore@moore.sr.unh.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Msg of Tue, 28 Nov 95 17:07:54 +0900 from Jeffrey Friedl Subject: MWAVE modem under Linux |> If it has not been done already, I would like to write an MWAVE |> modem driver for Linux. Where can I find a programmer's guide |> to the MWAVE modem, or is it so proprietary that I should just |> be happy with what I've got? I thought about this myself. But considering how much of the modem is software, it's likely to be difficult to take care if it all yourself. But I can tell you I'd sure be interested to be able to use it (and the other DSP devices) under Linux! I read a message about this recently on one of the Linux newsgroups; sorry I forget which one. The upshot is that IBM considers the information proprietary, but the poster is organizing a campaign to get them to release it anyway. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 09:57:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00070; Tue, 28 Nov 95 09:57:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02534; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:55:50 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:53:46 -0500 Received: from peritus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02176; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:53:42 -0500 Received: from tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com (tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com [199.26.191.60]) by peritus.com (sendmail 8.6.12/Peritus-3.0) with ESMTP id JAA23774; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:48:36 -0500 Received: from localhost by tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com (sendmail 8.6.9/Peritus-2.0) id JAA17407; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:54:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199511281454.JAA17407@tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com> To: Annelise Anderson Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Modem Won't Dial Phone Card Number In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 27 Nov 1995 22:44:53 PST." <01HY5KF0J2FM005KKM@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:54:01 -0500 From: Don Markuson [Annelise Anderson writes:] -> The modem that came with my 701 C--supposedly a fine road warrior machine!-- -> can't dial using a phone card such as sprint. -> -> I'm using a REXX script under OS2 with -> dialcmd = 'atdt5551212' -> and this works--but if expanded to -> dialcmd = 'atdt18008778000,,xxxxxxxxxx,,xxxxxxxxxxxxxx' -> it won't even begin dialing; the first set of x's here is 0 plus -> area code plus number, the second set is my sprint card number. -> -> If I break this up into two sets, it dials only the second set. -> -> Has anyone solved this problem? The problem is that the modem only allows a string of around 30-33 characters after the ATDT, and if there are more, it spits back ERROR instead of dialing. I recall finding the limit documented somewhere where I didn't expect to find it; I don't think it was mentioned in the on-line MWave read-me or Modem Reference. One solution is to break this into two, but you have to be clever about how to do that, so the modem doesn't wait for carrier after the first. To do this, use a semicolon after the first set of digits by sending: "ATDT ...1st-25-or-so-chars... ;" on one line (modem will respond with "OK" after it has completed dialing these, then "ATDT ...rest-of-number..." on 2nd line (modem will wait for connection). Since there will be an implicit second-or-so pause between lines, it's handy to line this up to replace a sequence of "," pauses in your string. In a Rexx dialscript, this might be implemented something like: /* Assumes dialcmd contains just the numbers to dial and does NOT begin */ /* with "ATDT", but "ATDT" is the string to send to the modem for dialing. */ do while (length(dialcmd) > 25) dialnow = substr(dialcmd, 1, 25) dialcmd = substr(dialcmd, 26) call send 'ATDT' || dialnow || ';' || cr call waitfor 'OK', 10 ; call flush_receive 'echo' /* must account for modem's S11 value for tone dial time here; */ /* must be much more patient for pulse dialing! */ end call send 'ATDT' || dialcmd || cr call waitfor 'CONNECT' , 60 if RC = 1 then do call lineout , '!!! Number failed to answer or connect reliably.' exit 1 end call waitfor crlf , 2 I have NOT tested the above...it's just off-the-cuff. I used a similar scheme in a Trumpet Winsock dialscript a while back with reasonable success. Good luck! ..Don Markuson dmarkuson@peritus.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 10:02:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00103; Tue, 28 Nov 95 10:02:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03100; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 10:01:00 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:59:32 -0500 Received: from dilbert.daily.umn.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02767; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:59:29 -0500 Received: by dilbert.daily.umn.edu (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI.AUTO) for TP750@cs.utk.edu id IAA21649; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 08:54:23 -0600 From: "George Niece" Message-Id: <9511280854.ZM21647@dilbert.daily.umn.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 08:54:18 -0600 In-Reply-To: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) "Re: WTB: ThinkPad 755ce or cx" (Nov 27, 5:51pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 6apr95 MediaMail) To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: WTB: ThinkPad 755ce or cx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You cannot hot swap the internal drives in a thinkpad, any model. -- George Niece, IS Manager for the Minnesota Daily niece@dilbert.daily.umn.edu --- http://www.daily.umn.edu/~niece/ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 12:24:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12881; Tue, 28 Nov 95 12:24:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15939; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:19:08 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:16:54 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15737; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:16:43 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA19349; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:17:32 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:11:25 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: Randy Whittle Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: WTB: ThinkPad 755ce or cx In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, Randy Whittle wrote: > At 2:39 PM 11/27/95, kevin king wrote: > But as Don Whiteside pointed out, these are just standard IDE > drives and by definition can't be hot-swapped. > > However, if you booted off a floppy and had a SyQuest drive that > was your otherwise primary drive, yes, you could easily swap out a SyQuest > cartridge for another one--as long as you didn't boot off the SyQuest. > > But then, a removable like a SyQuest is designed to do that. > IDE isn't. > Though I know SyQuest has IDE versions. I don't know if you can do > it with those--I'm only familiar with SCSI. It's a somewhat different issue. If we disconnect an IDE drive, we remove it from the line. If you pop the cartridge on a Syquest IDE drive, the physical decive is still connected, but the media has been removed. Booting off the device isn't the major issue - you can deal with those issues. More important is if the device is checked by the OS to see if there has been a disk change. Floppies are supposed to do this, Syquest drives do as well. However, most OSes don't check "fixed" drives for change lines. That's why there's usually a driver of some sort for those Syquests. You can use them w/o the dirver, but only if you don't change carts while the machine is on. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 12:25:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12888; Tue, 28 Nov 95 12:25:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16560; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:24:04 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:23:17 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16469; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:23:14 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA19396; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:18:36 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:12:29 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: ucklw08 Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: WTB: ThinkPad 755ce or cx In-Reply-To: <50662.9511280157@ts-b.bcc.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, ucklw08 wrote: > Actually they are EIDE which are a bit different from IDE -- but your main > point about them not being hot swappable is stull true. I think 750s w/o some of the more recent (last year or so) BIOS upgrades would still be IDE... From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 12:39:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14565; Tue, 28 Nov 95 12:39:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17862; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:36:45 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:35:37 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17672; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:35:28 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA27502; Tue, 28 Nov 95 09:35:07 -0800 Received: by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA00376; Tue, 28 Nov 95 09:33:50 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:33:49 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: MWAVE modem under Linux In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit On Nov. 28 95, 06:06 PST, "Chris Hanson" wrote: > I read a message about this recently on one of the Linux newsgroups; > sorry I forget which one. The upshot is that IBM considers the > information proprietary, but the poster is organizing a campaign > to get them to release it anyway. I sure hope so. I'd like to see both a modem driver and a sound driver under NeXTSTEP, and I'm hoping if someone can do it under Linux, it should be possible to port to NeXTSTEP. --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 13:34:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18150; Tue, 28 Nov 95 13:34:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22388; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:28:59 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:26:11 -0500 Received: from firewall.ceco.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22168; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:26:06 -0500 From: Received: from ceco.ceco.com ([130.197.8.140]) by firewall.ceco.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA13441 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:25:18 -0600 Received: from ccmail.ceco.com (ccmailout.ceco.com) by ceco.ceco.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06853; Tue, 28 Nov 95 12:24:41 CST Received: from ccMail by ccmail.ceco.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA817582915; Tue, 28 Nov 95 12:17:13 CST Date: Tue, 28 Nov 95 12:17:13 CST Message-Id: <9510288175.AA817582915@ccmail.ceco.com> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Using a 701C overseas Hi folks, Just got back from a vacation in Greece and thought I'd let you know that 1) Using the default AC adapter with a simple plus converter worked fine, 2) Using the internal modem worked fine, 3) Xray machines didn't do any noticeable damage, and 4) I had a great trip! :^) Dan -- Daniel A. Kirkdorffer | "Though the course may change sometimes Email: e#kirkd@ccmail.ceco.com | rivers always reach the sea." R. Plant DanKirkd@aol.com +----------------------------------------- WWW: http://users.aol.com/dankirkd/danhome.html From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 13:35:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18164; Tue, 28 Nov 95 13:35:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22776; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:32:59 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:31:46 -0500 Received: from cs.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22663; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:31:43 -0500 Received: from jones.cs.brown.edu (jones.cs.brown.edu [128.148.38.144]) by cs.brown.edu (8.7.1/Bullwinkle1.1) with ESMTP id NAA03727; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:31:36 -0500 (EST) From: Sridhar Ramaswamy Received: (sr@localhost) by jones.cs.brown.edu (8.7.1/BrownCS1.0) id NAA04628; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:31:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:31:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199511281831.NAA04628@jones.cs.brown.edu> To: ANDRSN@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Modem Won't Dial Phone Card Number One workaround to your problem is for the rexx script to do whatever it needs to and ignore the arguments that it gets completely. For example, you might have lines in the rexx script to dial the 800 number, pause, dial the phone number, pause and then dial the calling card number. This is a problem only if you have to change these numbers frequently which I assume is not the case. In my rexx script, for example, I completely ignore the username and password because they don't make any sense in the context that I am suing them. Good luck, --Sridhar From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 13:37:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18193; Tue, 28 Nov 95 13:37:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22905; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:34:15 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:33:18 -0500 Received: from cs.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22793; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:33:16 -0500 Received: from jones.cs.brown.edu (jones.cs.brown.edu [128.148.38.144]) by cs.brown.edu (8.7.1/Bullwinkle1.1) with ESMTP id NAA03786 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:33:14 -0500 (EST) From: Sridhar Ramaswamy Received: (sr@localhost) by jones.cs.brown.edu (8.7.1/BrownCS1.0) id NAA04633 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:33:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:33:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199511281833.NAA04633@jones.cs.brown.edu> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: two hard drives for thinkpad 755cx Is it possible for me to get rid of the floppy drive and put another ide hard disk into the thinkpad? A cursory look indicates that I need some sort of adapter at the very least. Anyone done this? Any advice? Thanks, --Sridhar From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 14:48:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25223; Tue, 28 Nov 95 14:48:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28747; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:40:09 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:35:53 -0500 Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27919; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:35:50 -0500 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id NAA28286 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:35:34 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2b7.32.19951128193533.00a52074@serv0.cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2b7 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 13:35:33 -0600 To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: Re: two hard drives for thinkpad 755cx At 01:33 PM 11/28/95 -0500, you wrote: >Is it possible for me to get rid of the floppy drive >and put another ide hard disk into the thinkpad? A >cursory look indicates that I need some sort of adapter >at the very least. Anyone done this? Any advice? > >Thanks, >--Sridhar > you can easily do this without any adapter in the new thinkpad 760. i do not think it is possible in the other thinkpads, but if it is possible in my 755CE i would sure like to know the secret as well... --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 14:55:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25805; Tue, 28 Nov 95 14:55:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29747; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:49:04 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:44:34 -0500 Received: from park.interport.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29154; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:44:25 -0500 Received: from interport.net (madison.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.1]) by park.interport.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA14739; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:44:10 -0500 Received: (from alster@localhost) by interport.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id OAA14972; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:44:08 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:44:07 -0500 (EST) From: aoster To: Todd Tannenbaum Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: two hard drives for thinkpad 755cx In-Reply-To: <2.2b7.32.19951128193533.00a52074@serv0.cae.wisc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, Todd Tannenbaum wrote: > At 01:33 PM 11/28/95 -0500, you wrote: > >Is it possible for me to get rid of the floppy drive > >and put another ide hard disk into the thinkpad? A > >cursory look indicates that I need some sort of adapter > >at the very least. Anyone done this? Any advice? > > you can easily do this without any adapter in the new thinkpad 760. > > i do not think it is possible in the other thinkpads, but if it is possible > in my 755CE i would sure like to know the secret as well... Me too ...since I have two drives that I swap between. http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 17:16:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10875; Tue, 28 Nov 95 17:16:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13876; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:14:59 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:11:13 -0500 Received: from bronze.coil.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13522; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:11:10 -0500 Received: from [205.133.97.111] ([205.133.97.111]) by bronze.coil.com (8.6.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA08577 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:10:29 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:10:29 -0500 X-Sender: bigd@mail.coil.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: bigd@coil.com (Dave Inskeep) Subject: EMM386 error on 755C I use a 755CE at work, and have two co-workers with 755C's. Almost every time they exit Windows they recive the following message: "EMM386 has detected error #06 in an application at memory address 00B8:0B89. To minimize the chance of data loss, EMM386 has halted your computer. For more information, see the README.TXT file. To restart your computer, press Enter." This happens almost every time they exit Windows, whether or not they actually run anything. Sometimes it happens immediately, sometmes a few minutes after entering DOS. Both computers started with PC-DOS 6.x, and moved to MS-DOS 6.22, with no change. One is now back on PC-DOS, and one is still on MS-DOS. No amount of changes to CONFIG.SYS or AUTOEXEC.BAT reduces these errors, nor did swapping or removing ram cards (both have 20 meg total each). Oddly enough, my 755CE (on PC-DOS, MS-DOS/Windows wouldn't install at all) hasn't had this at all. In addition, a few older DOS apps used for PLC programming crash reliably on the 755C's, but not my CE. Is there some architectural flaw in the 755C? Any suggestions on how to stop this would be appreciated. Dave Inskeep. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "640K ought to be enough for anybody." -- Bill Gates, 1981 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.coil.com/~bigd/ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 17:41:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13853; Tue, 28 Nov 95 17:41:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16284; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:37:41 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:36:04 -0500 Received: from vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16014; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:36:01 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id RAA25544; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 17:33:39 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA1563; Tue, 28 Nov 95 17:33:54 -0800 Message-Id: <9511290133.AA1563@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id DDAEA1EA5532299585256282007B6075; Tue, 28 Nov 95 17:33:52 To: Dave Inskeep Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 28 Nov 95 17:29:17 EDT Subject: Re: EMM386 error on 755C X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....I use a 755CE at work, and have two co-workers with 755C's. Almost every time they exit Windows they recive the following message: "EMM386 has detected error #06 in an application at memory address 00B8:0B89. To minimize the chance of data loss, EMM386 has halted your computer. For more information, see the README.TXT file. To restart your computer, press Enter."...." ~~~~~ are you on a network? i saw this same message over and over on 360C's, 755CD's and a 755Cs. it was the exact symptoms you describe-- it happened almost every time i exited windows. it stopped when xircom replaced all of our ethernet cards. we use the 'credit card adapter IIps' (10BaseT) and apparently there was a thinkpad-specific problem with these cards that xircom fixed in the latest revision. they replaced 11 of them for us at no charge. i have seen it once or twice in the last few months since the replacement, but with 16 thinkpads in use, one 'error #06' per month isn't enough for me to pursue. if you're not using this card, perhaps the one you're using has a similar problem. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 20:28:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27884; Tue, 28 Nov 95 20:28:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28282; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 20:26:16 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 20:23:20 -0500 Received: from Fe3.rust.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA28055; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 20:23:13 -0500 Received: from liv-14.rust.net by Fe3.rust.net via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id UAA07845; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 20:24:48 -0800 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 20:24:48 -0800 Message-Id: <199511290424.UAA07845@Fe3.rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Re: Modem Won't Dial Phone Card Number Annelise Anderson wrote: At 10:44 PM 11/27/95 -0800, you wrote: >Hi-- > >The modem that came with my 701 C--supposedly a fine road warrior machine!-- >can't dial using a phone card such as sprint. > >I'm using a REXX script under OS2 with >dialcmd = 'atdt5551212' >and this works--but if expanded to >dialcmd = 'atdt18008778000,,xxxxxxxxxx,,xxxxxxxxxxxxxx' >it won't even begin dialing; the first set of x's here is 0 plus >area code plus number, the second set is my sprint card number. > >If I break this up into two sets, it dials only the second set. > >Has anyone solved this problem? > >Same result in dialing using Windows and Trumpet, where the number >is in the trumpsck.ini file. > >Thanks-- > >Annelise > How about this for a crazy suggestion: Call your long distance carrier and tell them your problem. See if they can't set you up with a special shorter version. If they can't maybe a different carrier? To many numbers it's just a long distance phone call. Your credit cards aren't that long... B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan - billb@rust.net - http://www.rust.net/~billb - N8QPI Livonia, MI - " V e r y G o o d R o b i n " - Howard Stern =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Nov 28 23:55:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11499; Tue, 28 Nov 95 23:55:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17660; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 23:55:08 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 28 Nov 1995 23:52:10 -0500 Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17503; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 23:52:07 -0500 Received: by explorer-en.dgp.toronto.edu id <144002>; Tue, 28 Nov 1995 23:51:46 -0500 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: can someone send me mcifax.drv? Message-Id: <95Nov28.235146est.144002@explorer-en.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 23:51:36 -0500 I haven't been able to get FaxWorks to run since moving to MWAVE 2, even after installing the new faxworks voice available on ftp.pcco.ibm.com. I have tracked the error to the driver mww\faxtam\mcifax.drv. When I try to load it from the windows control panel, windows (3.1) complains and suggests I should re-install it. Since I have downloaded the MWAVE code several times, I can only conclude that this driver is corrupt in IBM's ftp distribution of Windows MWAVE 2. To test this theory out, I wonder if some kind soul would be willing to send me their (MWAVE 2) driver. Yours would have to have come from some place other than the pcco site. Odd request, I know, but the help line has not been able to help me on this. Just let me know if you're willing to help, and we can arrange for a transfer. I use unix for most day to day things, so it'd be great if you have access to uuencode. Thanks, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 01:04:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17061; Wed, 29 Nov 95 01:04:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22625; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 01:03:36 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 01:01:39 -0500 Received: from sentinel.synapse.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA22537; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 01:01:35 -0500 Received: from harp-08.synapse.net (harp-08.synapse.net [199.84.52.198]) by sentinel.synapse.net (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id BAA05177; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 01:01:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199511290601.BAA05177@sentinel.synapse.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Patrick Hong" To: elf@dgp.toronto.edu Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 01:03:29 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: can someone send me mcifax.drv? Reply-To: phong@phsmc.synapse.net Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.10) Eugene, > I haven't been able to get FaxWorks to run since moving to MWAVE 2, > even after installing the new faxworks voice available on > ftp.pcco.ibm.com. I have tracked the error to the driver > mww\faxtam\mcifax.drv. When I try to load it from the windows control > panel, windows (3.1) complains and suggests I should re-install it. > Since I have downloaded the MWAVE code several times, I can only > conclude that this driver is corrupt in IBM's ftp distribution of > Windows MWAVE 2. To test this theory out, I wonder if some kind soul > would be willing to send me their (MWAVE 2) driver. Yours would have > to have come from some place other than the pcco site. Odd request, I > know, but the help line has not been able to help me on this. Just let > me know if you're willing to help, and we can arrange for a transfer. > I use unix for most day to day things, so it'd be great if you have > access to uuencode. Before you start receiving numerous copies of the file(s), I think you should try to download the version from the MWave Web Site. Their URL is: http://watson.mbb.sfu.ca/ I've been using the Mwave 2.0 drivers from the IBM PCCO web site for quite some time now and have not experienced any difficulties. I believe the versions from the MWave web site are quite reliable as well. Hope this helps. ... patrick ______________________________________________________________________ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@phsmc.synapse.net (613) 769-1544 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 06:48:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08235; Wed, 29 Nov 95 06:48:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA19753; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 06:47:55 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 06:44:30 -0500 Received: from globalvision.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA19501; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 06:44:27 -0500 Received: by globalvision.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA23503; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 06:44:24 +0500 Message-Id: <9511291144.AA23503@ globalvision.net> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Jane Loyless Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 06:44:34 EST Reply-To: jloyless@globalvision.net Subject: TP760CD Floppy enclosure kit Is there a kit for the TP760CD to use the floppy drive externally at the same time as using the CD internally? Does anyone have the part number? Thanks! Jane From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 09:54:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18810; Wed, 29 Nov 95 09:54:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03684; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:53:28 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:48:55 -0500 Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03209; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:48:50 -0500 Received: by explorer-en.dgp.toronto.edu id <144005>; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:48:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Patrick Hong"'s message as of Nov 29, 1:01am X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: phong@phsmc.synapse.net, elf@dgp.toronto.edu Subject: Re: can someone send me mcifax.drv? Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <95Nov29.094833est.144005@explorer-en.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:48:23 -0500 Patrick Hong wrote: > I've been using the Mwave 2.0 drivers from the IBM PCCO web site for quite some > time now and have not experienced any difficulties. I believe the versions > from the MWave web site are quite reliable as well. Hope this helps. > > ... patrick Thanks of the information, Patrick. I have also been using MWAVE 2 for a while, and I'm getting consistently good modem connections, but the *only* thing that doesn't work is faxing, and my system persistently complains about this driver I mentioned. I also am able to send faxes using other programs that do not use this driver. So either FaxWorks or that driver are broken. I often browse the MWAVE web site, I will download from there on the off-chance that this will work. I really like faxworks. It's one of the few reasons I still occasionally use windows. The fax programs on Linux are actually much more convenient to use, but they rasterise postscript or raw text, and the result is very grainy. My message only requested that if someone was willing to send the driver to me, to get in touch with me. One kind person has already sent me the driver, but I won't be sure it has unpacked properly. Today is the first day in a while that I don't have my pad with me. So, despite Patrick's prudent warning, I'm still interesting in hearing from someone who successfully uses FaxWorks with MWAVE 2. Thanks, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 10:00:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19123; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:00:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04238; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:59:11 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:57:18 -0500 Received: from vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03958; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:57:15 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id JAA10521; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:54:45 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA2054; Wed, 29 Nov 95 09:55:01 -0800 Message-Id: <9511291755.AA2054@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 8D60EE588A6210998525628300517E2E; Wed, 29 Nov 95 09:55:00 To: tp750 From: Gary Moore/VENTANA Date: 29 Nov 95 9:52:44 EDT Subject: Re: can someone send me mcifax.drv? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain I've been using the Mwave 2.0 for over a month now and have no problem faxing. There was a new version of FaxWorks placed on the IBM web site for the 2.0 update....you may need that. To: phong @ phsmc.synapse.net @ INET, elf @ dgp.toronto.edu @ INET cc: tp750 @ cs.utk.edu @ INET (bcc: Gary Moore/VENTANA) From: elf @ dgp.toronto.edu (Eugene Fiume) @ INET Date: 11/29/95 09:48:23 AM Subject: Re: can someone send me mcifax.drv? Patrick Hong wrote: > I've been using the Mwave 2.0 drivers from the IBM PCCO web site for quite some > time now and have not experienced any difficulties. I believe the versions > from the MWave web site are quite reliable as well. Hope this helps. > > ... patrick Thanks of the information, Patrick. I have also been using MWAVE 2 for a while, and I'm getting consistently good modem connections, but the *only* thing that doesn't work is faxing, and my system persistently complains about this driver I mentioned. I also am able to send faxes using other programs that do not use this driver. So either FaxWorks or that driver are broken. I often browse the MWAVE web site, I will download from there on the off-chance that this will work. I really like faxworks. It's one of the few reasons I still occasionally use windows. The fax programs on Linux are actually much more convenient to use, but they rasterise postscript or raw text, and the result is very grainy. My message only requested that if someone was willing to send the driver to me, to get in touch with me. One kind person has already sent me the driver, but I won't be sure it has unpacked properly. Today is the first day in a while that I don't have my pad with me. So, despite Patrick's prudent warning, I'm still interesting in hearing from someone who successfully uses FaxWorks with MWAVE 2. Thanks, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 10:06:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19542; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:06:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05178; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:05:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:03:42 -0500 Received: from sgigate.sgi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04868; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:03:36 -0500 Received: from sgihub.corp.sgi.com by sgigate.sgi.com via ESMTP (950911.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH825/940406.SGI) id HAA20907; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 07:03:31 -0800 Received: from newt.alias.com by sgihub.corp.sgi.com via ESMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/911001.SGI) id HAA13146; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 07:03:29 -0800 Received: by newt.alias.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA16865; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:03:16 -0500 From: "Eugene Fiume" Message-Id: <9511291003.ZM16863@newt.alias.com> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:03:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: Gary Moore/VENTANA "Re: can someone send me mcifax.drv?" (Nov 29, 8:52am) References: <9511291755.AA2054@lgate.vmedia.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: Gary Moore/VENTANA , tp750 Subject: Re: can someone send me mcifax.drv? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Gary Moore/VENTANA wrote: > I've been using the Mwave 2.0 for over a month now and have no problem faxing. > There was a new version of FaxWorks placed on the IBM web site for the 2.0 > update....you may need that. Yup. Installed that. Doesn't work for me. And you got yours from the web site? Cheers, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 10:20:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20099; Wed, 29 Nov 95 10:20:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06528; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:19:42 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:18:33 -0500 Received: from dilbert.daily.umn.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06411; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:18:31 -0500 Received: by dilbert.daily.umn.edu (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI.AUTO) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id JAA09487; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:13:16 -0600 From: "George Niece" Message-Id: <9511290913.ZM9485@dilbert.daily.umn.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 09:13:11 -0600 In-Reply-To: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) "(Fwd) Re: DIMM-RAM for the 755CX?" (Nov 28, 1:43pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 6apr95 MediaMail) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: DIMM-RAM for the 755CX? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You need to decide how much dram you want long term, unless you like having spare dram cards around. The best advice on that is to buy all the memory you can afford. I am not aware of dimms ever working in the 75x series. -- George Niece, IS Manager for the Minnesota Daily niece@dilbert.daily.umn.edu --- http://www.daily.umn.edu/~niece/ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 11:09:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23772; Wed, 29 Nov 95 11:09:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10943; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 11:07:49 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 11:03:39 -0500 Received: from kobra.csd.uu.se by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10338; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 11:03:36 -0500 Received: (from d93psa@localhost) by kobra.csd.uu.se (8.6.10/8.6.9) id RAA24246; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:03:28 +0100 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:03:26 +0100 (MET) From: Pez To: tp750 Subject: Soundcard inside the 750Cs Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have an 750Cs lying around, and I understand that the soundcard inside it isn't MWave, but an AD1848 or compatible. Does anyone know where to get hold of specs/programming information for this? I run Linux, and want to incorporate it better. / My other card is an AWE. It's AWEsome. / <-------------------------------------------------------------------------> < Peter "Pez" Sandell, Computer Science Program > < (d93psa@student.csd.uu.se) > < Department of Computer Science, MIC, Uppsala University, Sweden > < +46 (0)18 102601 (home) / 070 7409336 (cell) > <-------------------------------------------------------------------------> <"To think before you act is like wiping your ass before you take a shit" > <-Arne Anka - Donald's older cousin > < Uppsala University cannot be held responsible for any of my actions > <-------------------------------------------------------------------------> From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 11:59:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26726; Wed, 29 Nov 95 11:59:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16409; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 11:58:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 11:55:37 -0500 Received: from PEAK.ORG by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15931; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 11:55:31 -0500 Received: from leejim.peak.org ([198.68.20.35]) by PEAK.ORG (8.6.12/8.6.7) with SMTP id IAA21260 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 08:55:26 -0800 Message-Id: <199511291655.IAA21260@PEAK.ORG> Sender: From: "Jim Lee" Organization: Diamond Quest Consulting To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 08:51:58 -8 Subject: Re: TP760CD Floppy enclosure kit Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) > To: tp750@cs.utk.edu > From: Jane Loyless > Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 06:44:34 EST > Reply-to: jloyless@globalvision.net > Subject: TP760CD Floppy enclosure kit > Is there a kit for the TP760CD to use the floppy drive externally at > the same time as using the CD internally? Does anyone have the part > number? > > Thanks! > > > Jane > > Hi Jane, I have the kit for the '755CD - part # is 66G3618. This is brand new, never used, still in the box. I exchanged my '755CD for a '755CX before I had a chance to use it. If it turns out to be the one you're looking for, I'd be glad to sell it to you for 30% less than IBM (plus shipping). ---------- Jim Lee Diamond Quest Consulting leejim@peak.org 30563 Ridge St http://www.peak.org/~leejim Lebanon, OR 97355 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 12:09:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27881; Wed, 29 Nov 95 12:09:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17727; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 12:08:24 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 12:06:07 -0500 Received: from icarus2.opt-sci.arizona.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17305; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 12:06:04 -0500 Received: from cobra.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (cobra.Opt-Sci.Arizona.EDU [150.135.52.21]) by icarus2.opt-sci.arizona.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA13623 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:05:49 -0700 (MST) Received: by cobra.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (SMI-8.6/SMIb) id KAA01657; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:05:46 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:05:46 -0700 From: stu@icarus2.opt-sci.arizona.edu (Stuart Biggar) Message-Id: <199511291705.KAA01657@cobra.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: DIMM RAM X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII I can verify that DIMM RAM does work in an IBM 755CX. I have the DIMM adapter and 2 16 MB DIMMs. The adapter plugs into the same socket as a single RAM card. The DIMM adapter can hold one or two DIMMs. (See page 140 - 147 of the CX User's Guide for info on installing the adapter and DIMMs). With this combo I have 40 MB of usable RAM as verified by the Easy-Setup Test (it takes a LONG time to test 40 MB as compared to the original 8 MB). Warp also runs MUCH faster with 40 compared to 8, especially with Connect, TCPIP, NFS, PMX, ... I hope this clears up some confusion about DIMMs and at least the 755CX. I have no experience with other ThinkPads. Stuart ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stuart F. Biggar Phone: (520) 621-8168 Remote Sensing Group FAX: (520) 621-8292 Optical Sciences Center University of Arizona 1600 N. Country Club Rd, Ste 100 Tucson, AZ 85716-3160 Internet: Stuart.Biggar@opt-sci.arizona.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 13:19:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00451; Wed, 29 Nov 95 13:19:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23407; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:17:54 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:14:54 -0500 Received: from inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23061; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:14:45 -0500 Received: from inc.net by inc.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19350; Wed, 29 Nov 95 12:14:34 CST Date: Wed, 29 Nov 95 12:14:32 CST Message-Id: <9511291814.AA19350@inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Joseph C. Wilson" Subject: You CAN Use DIMM's in a 755CX Until very recently non-parity DIMM modules were not available for the 755CX, hence the prevailing opinion that one cannot install DIMM memory in a 755cx. However, in the Fall-Winter catalog from PC Direct, both non-parity memory modules and memory module adapters suitable for use in the 755cx are listed. Part #'s and prices are as follows: 8 Mb non-parity DIMM memory module #92G7261 475.00 ThinkPad Memory Module Adapter #84G2151 105.00 I hope this clearsup the 755cx - DIMM controversy. I checked this info out with a IBM PC Co. (but not affiliated w/ PC Direct) contact and, after some checking, confirmed that the parts listed will, indeed, do the trick in my cx. Happy ThinkPading Joe Wilson Badger Valve & Fitting Milwaukee, WI From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 13:59:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06444; Wed, 29 Nov 95 13:59:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26714; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:57:50 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:56:26 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26531; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:56:21 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA23196; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:57:20 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:51:13 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: "Joseph C. Wilson" Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: You CAN Use DIMM's in a 755CX In-Reply-To: <9511291814.AA19350@inc.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Joseph C. Wilson wrote: > I hope this clearsup the 755cx - DIMM controversy. I checked this info > out with a IBM PC Co. (but not affiliated w/ PC Direct) contact and, after > some checking, confirmed that the parts listed will, indeed, do the trick > in my cx. Just to start the whole mess again - what about the 750? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 14:01:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07374; Wed, 29 Nov 95 14:01:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26903; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:59:33 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:58:18 -0500 Received: from greece.elab.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26750; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:58:14 -0500 Received: (stevens@localhost) by greece.elab.columbia.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4.elab) id NAA24013; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:58:09 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:58:09 -0500 From: stevens@elab.columbia.edu (Andy Stevens) Message-Id: <199511291858.NAA24013@greece.elab.columbia.edu> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: vendor for hard drives Hi, I am wondering where people are buying their hard drives for the 750/755 series. I am interested in either the encased or raw 2.5" drive, 540MB or 810MB. I called a place in Computer Shopper to buy the Toshiba 1924FCV 540MB drive. The advertised price was $289 with 3yr warranty, but on the phone, they said the price had gone up to $309, and the warranty was only 1 yr. I am tired of this false advertising crap, can anybody recommend a reputable vendor? --andy From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 17:04:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19513; Wed, 29 Nov 95 17:04:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14313; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:01:59 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 16:56:02 -0500 Received: from panix2.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA13741; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 16:55:59 -0500 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id QAA16609; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 16:55:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 16:55:30 -0500 (EST) From: Michael MacDonald To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: 760cd has arrived! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The 760cd I ordered from IBM in early-October has just arrived, two weeks **ahead** of schedule (they were estimating a ship date of 12/11 as of last Monday). I haven't taken it out of the box yet. Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 17:30:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21801; Wed, 29 Nov 95 17:30:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16907; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:27:22 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:24:50 -0500 Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16558; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:24:46 -0500 Received: from oasis.vpia.uconn.edu by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 29 Nov 95 17:24:37 EST Received: from OASIS/MERCURYQ by oasis.vpia.uconn.edu (Mercury 1.21); 29 Nov 95 17:28:00 EST Received: from MERCURYQ by OASIS (Mercury 1.21); 29 Nov 95 17:27:35 EST From: "Guy Farrell" Organization: The UConn Foundation, Inc. To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 17:27:30 EST Subject: Re: RFR (request for rumors?) Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-Id: > Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 15:34:04 -0500 (EST) > On Fri, 24 Nov retsla wrote: > And... "IBM is also considering incorporating into new notebooks in 1996 a > 13.3-inch display made by Display Technologies..." ....aieee That's more than the veiwable area of a 14" CRT and almost 15" CRT!!! Guy W. Farrell Vox: (860)486-0964 My Desk Network Coordinator, Postmaster (860)486-5000 Front Desk The UConn Foundation, Inc. (800)269-9965 Toll-free U-Box 206 Fax: (860)486-1615 Storrs, CT 06269-4190 E-mail: gfarrell@oasis.vpia.uconn.edu Computer Support for Institutional Advancement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 23:51:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25857; Wed, 29 Nov 95 23:51:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15413; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 23:50:38 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 23:47:04 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15072; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 23:46:59 -0500 Received: by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp; id NAA25348; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:46:21 +0900 Received: from unknown(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (g3.0.3) id xma025343; Thu, 30 Nov 95 13:46:00 +0900 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id NAA25408; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:46:31 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id NAA00257; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:45:59 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id NAA05924; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:45:54 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 13:44:42 +0900 Message-Id: <9511300444.AA03963@shibuya.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: macd@panix.com Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Michael MacDonald's message of Wed, 29 Nov 1995 16:55:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: 760cd has arrived! Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp |> The 760cd I ordered from IBM in early-October has just arrived, two weeks |> **ahead** of schedule (they were estimating a ship date of 12/11 as of |> last Monday). I haven't taken it out of the box yet. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is not Christmas -- you're allowed to open it early! :-) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Nov 29 23:57:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26440; Wed, 29 Nov 95 23:57:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15976; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 23:56:33 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 29 Nov 1995 23:54:53 -0500 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15673; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 23:54:49 -0500 Received: from Thinkpad (ts34-15.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.22.44]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id UAA33426 for ; Wed, 29 Nov 1995 20:54:41 -0800 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 20:54:41 -0800 Message-Id: <199511300454.UAA33426@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> X-Sender: dpark@pop.ben2.ucla.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Dennis Park Subject: RE: vendor for hard drives IBM Factory Outlet is selling the removeable 170mb Thinkpad HD for only $79. The drives are small, but one could buy these drives for the shells and replace the inner drives with higher capacity. Dennis From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 01:07:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00023; Thu, 30 Nov 95 01:07:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20645; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 01:07:05 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 01:04:55 -0500 Received: from cocoa.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20426; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 01:04:51 -0500 Received: (from news@localhost) by cocoa.brown.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA07519; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 01:04:45 -0500 To: brown-lists-tp750@cocoa.brown.edu Path: news From: Wai-Shan Lam Newsgroups: brown.lists.tp750 Subject: Re: TP760CD Floppy enclosure kit Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 01:04:13 -0500 Organization: Brown University Lines: 19 Message-Id: <30BD495D.BBE@Brown.edu> References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bootp-30w.andrews.brown.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b3 (Win95; I) To: jloyless@globalvision.net Jane Loyless wrote: > > Is there a kit for the TP760CD to use the floppy drive externally at > the same time as using the CD internally? Does anyone have the part > number? > > Thanks! > > Jane -- It's the same one as the one use for the 750 and 755. New one costs about $150 from PC Direct. From: ________________________ _______________________ Wai_Shan_Lam@Brown.Edu Brown University Box 3691 72124.2644@CompuServe.Com Providence RI 02912--3691 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 03:29:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10245; Thu, 30 Nov 95 03:29:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA29166; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 03:28:17 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 03:25:10 -0500 Received: from shellx.best.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA28917; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 03:25:05 -0500 From: Received: from 206.14.89.139 ([206.14.89.139]) by shellx.best.com (950911.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH825/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA13571 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 08:24:44 GMT Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 08:24:44 GMT Message-Id: <199511300824.IAA13571@shellx.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 760cd has arrived! To: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Michael MacDonald wrote: >The 760cd I ordered from IBM in early-October has just arrived, two weeks >**ahead** of schedule (they were estimating a ship date of 12/11 as of >last Monday). I haven't taken it out of the box yet. > >Michael MacDonald >macd@panix.com >mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu I assume this is the 90Mhz version? Anyone know when the 120Mhz 760CD will be available?? _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ _ ( @ @ ) _ | |------.oOOo--()--oOOo.--------| | | | Internet : sandy@sandy.com | | | |--------------- Oooo.---------| | | | .oooO ( ) | | | | ( ) ) / | | | | \ ( (_/ | | | | \_) | | | | |\ _,,,---,,_ | | | | zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_.. | | | | |,*< ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' | | | | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | | ^ Cupertino, California ^ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 04:22:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13480; Thu, 30 Nov 95 04:22:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03523; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:21:08 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:20:16 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03353; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:20:13 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) id BAA14355; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 01:20:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 01:20:08 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: MegaHertz PCMCIA lan adaptor with 755cx Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII has anyone bought this and gotten it to work ? or had any problems ? it seems like it may have nuked my MWave DSP, but this is still under investigation. thanks. doug From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 04:24:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13487; Thu, 30 Nov 95 04:24:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03371; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:20:19 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:18:17 -0500 Received: from alf.uib.no by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA03215; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:18:14 -0500 Received: from novlpr.uib.no by alf.uib.no with SMTP (PP); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 10:17:47 +0100 Received: From EDBSENT1/WORKQUEUE1 by novlpr.uib.no via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.951130101717.480; 30 Nov 95 10:17:47 -100 Message-Id: From: Thor +ivind Jensen Organization: AORG.UIB.NO To: Dennis Park Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 10:20:08 MET Subject: RE: vendor for hard drives Reply-To: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.11a) > Subject: RE: vendor for hard drives > IBM Factory Outlet is selling the removeable 170mb Thinkpad HD for only $79. > The drives are small, but one could buy these drives for the shells and > replace the inner drives with higher capacity. The shell is very good, I used it instead of the sheet metal and got a much more quiet system. But to fit a high capacity drive would mean to slovethe connector-problem as well, and that do not seem easy to me. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 04:38:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14910; Thu, 30 Nov 95 04:38:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA04617; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:36:56 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:35:49 -0500 Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA04529; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:35:45 -0500 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA37813; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:36:04 -0500 Message-Id: <9511300936.AA37813@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: Need some storage? How about 2.16GB? To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:36:04 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text I was nosing around the Web and ran across a Toshiba press-release; early next year they'll have a 2.16GB 2.5" hard disk (19mm though). Samples of a 1.35GB slimline 2.5" drive are apparently now shipping at $600. See http://www.toshiba.com:80/tais/dpd/comdex/products.htm -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 04:55:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15714; Thu, 30 Nov 95 04:55:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05757; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:54:06 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:53:15 -0500 Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA05695; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:53:13 -0500 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA37853; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:53:36 -0500 Message-Id: <9511300953.AA37853@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: but really... source for IBM TravelStarXP drives? To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:53:36 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Does anyone know where I might get one of the IBM Travelstar XP 1.2G drives relatively cheaply? These are apparently the OEM "bare drive" versions of the 1.2G drives used in Thinkpads; they're 17mm high -- OEM model # is DPRA-21215 See http://www.almaden.ibm.com:80/storage/oem/matrix.htm -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 09:14:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29881; Thu, 30 Nov 95 09:14:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29729; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 09:12:37 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 09:11:32 -0500 Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29562; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 09:11:30 -0500 Received: from [192.70.249.32] (mac32.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA17234; Thu, 30 Nov 95 09:11:25 EST Message-Id: <9511301411.AA17234@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 10:27:47 +0100 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: RE: vendor for hard drives >> Subject: RE: vendor for hard drives > >> IBM Factory Outlet is selling the removeable 170mb Thinkpad HD for only $79. >> The drives are small, but one could buy these drives for the shells and >> replace the inner drives with higher capacity. > >The shell is very good, I used it instead of the sheet metal and got >a much more quiet system. But to fit a high capacity drive would >mean to slovethe connector-problem as well, and that do not seem easy >to me. I assume the connector problem you are refering to is the pin offset problem, where the ribbon cable had to be twisted slightly to get them to match the later drive. It is my understanding that this was only a problem with the early 750's, and that the later factory tp drives had cables that were compatible with the aftermarket IBM drives. Please correct me if I'm wrong. By the way, I've been using an upgraded drive with the stressed connector for more than a year now, and I have had no problems so far. ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 09:14:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29877; Thu, 30 Nov 95 09:14:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29725; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 09:12:36 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 09:08:48 -0500 Received: from alf.uib.no by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29194; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 09:08:38 -0500 Received: from novlpr.uib.no by alf.uib.no with SMTP (PP); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:08:08 +0100 Received: From EDBSENT1/WORKQUEUE1 by novlpr.uib.no via Charon-4.0-VROOM with IPX id 100.951130150740.384; 30 Nov 95 15:08:08 -100 Message-Id: From: Thor +ivind Jensen Organization: AORG.UIB.NO To: ivo@next.lbs.lon.ac.uk Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:10:27 MET Subject: Re: vendor for hard drives Reply-To: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.11a) > From: Ivo Welch > Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 13:54:47 GMT > To: Thor.O.Jensen@aorg.uib.no > Subject: Re: vendor for hard drives > Reply-to: ivo@next.lbs.lon.ac.uk These are important questions and we should help each other, so I think we should continue the discussion > I understand that the IDE or EIDE HD is inside a little carrier box. You > say that it is easy to put a different IDE or EIDE drive into this little > carrier box. Yes, the drives (including the connector) may rather easy be moved between the boxes. I received (from IBM) a 540Mb disk with a very annoing noice. It was in a rather simple sheet-metal box. I moved it to the much better original plastic (and sound deadening) box > > I was always under the impression that these were standard drives. Was I > wrong? The drive itself is standard and from many manufacturers, but are specially assembled to fit the TP: *It is inside a special box *Its connector are non-standard I can now easily solve the "box"-part of this, but need a lot more courage and advise to solve the "connector"-part. I think there are people in this group that have solved both problems, but to me ist seems that the ribbon cable from the special connector goes inside the disk housing so that it can not be changed without removing the disk cover (breaking warranty labels) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 10:21:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05124; Thu, 30 Nov 95 10:21:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05679; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 10:19:44 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 10:11:04 -0500 Received: from gps.leeds.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04513; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 10:07:51 -0500 Received: (from engjcc@localhost) by gps.leeds.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA25577 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:07:13 GMT From: J C Cummings Message-Id: <199511301507.PAA25577@gps.leeds.ac.uk> Subject: digestifer... To: tp750@cs.utk.edu (Think-Pad 750 Mailing list) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:07:12 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ummm. Someone had mentioned before that it was now possible to get the list in digest form? Could then e-mail me the directions to do this again? -Many thanks. -james -- James Cummings, engjcc@gps.leeds.ac.uk, English, University of Leeds. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 11:33:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11002; Thu, 30 Nov 95 11:33:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14088; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:32:12 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:29:39 -0500 Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13593; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:29:38 -0500 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id LAA19183; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:29:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199511301629.LAA19183@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: J C Cummings Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu (Think-Pad 750 Mailing list) Subject: Re: digestifer... In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:07:12 GMT." <199511301507.PAA25577@gps.leeds.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:29:30 -0500 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu > Ummm. Someone had mentioned before that it was now possible to get the list > in digest form? Could then e-mail me the directions to do this > again? send mail to tp750-request@cs.utk.edu asking to be moved to the digest. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 11:45:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12063; Thu, 30 Nov 95 11:45:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16220; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:44:08 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:42:57 -0500 Received: from arctos.LCS.MIT.EDU.LCS.MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15855; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:42:55 -0500 Received: by arctos.LCS.MIT.EDU.LCS.MIT.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06918; Thu, 30 Nov 95 11:42:53 EST Message-Id: <9511301642.AA06918@arctos.LCS.MIT.EDU.LCS.MIT.EDU> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: greetings Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:42:52 -0500 From: Ed Hurley i have a tp755cv running linux with 40MB ram, 540MB disk. i'm very interested in running linux on the 760c. is anyone currently running linux on the 760c? is there another list which might be more appropriate for these questions? thanks, -ed From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 12:15:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14457; Thu, 30 Nov 95 12:15:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19817; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:14:44 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:13:12 -0500 Received: from mail-e.bcc.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19677; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:13:10 -0500 Received: from ts-b.bcc.ac.uk by mail-e.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:12:23 +0000 From: ucklw08 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:12:08 GMT Message-Id: <46197.9511301712@ts-b.bcc.ac.uk> To: lrj@hepth.cornell.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: but really... source for IBM TravelStarXP drives? Do the Thinkpads use the Travelstar drives? The specifications claim these drives would survive 500G accelerations in non-operating mode and 100G in operating mode. Somehow I suspect one of these drives might cost more than my entire Thinkpad 750Cs -- does it contain Travelstar drive? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 12:35:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15724; Thu, 30 Nov 95 12:35:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21683; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:34:22 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:31:52 -0500 Received: from panix2.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21574; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:31:49 -0500 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id MAA25323; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:31:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 12:31:31 -0500 (EST) From: Michael MacDonald To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: 760cd impressions Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Wow...what a machine. Blows the 755cd, which I owned previously, out of the water. It's much faster, the screen is significantly larger *and* brighter, and the special features (4x cdrom, mpeg, video in/out) are incredible. I'm most stunned by the MPEG capability. IBM includes a demo disk with the 760cd that has a 60-second trailer from the movie "True Lies". The MPEG-2, 4 MB/S version is spectacular. It's almost as good as watching a VHS copy of True Lies on the Thinkpad. Too bad it's only a minute long. That single clip gobbles up 40 MB of CD-ROM space. There are two other clips to watch, shown in various compression settings. Even the MPEG-1, 1.5 MB/S versions are decent. The one thing I dislike about the 760cd is the location of the speakers (at the front of the keyboard). Invariably my hands rest near or over the speakers, blocking much of the sound. The volume level is a bit too low even when they are not obstructed. The good thing about the speaker location is that there's much less CPU interference (the 755cd's speakers emitted a continuous high-pitched whine at high volume levels). The 760cd is also tempermental about making IR connections to 755-series PCs. I tried to initiate a TranXit session between a 755ce and the 760cd and had to wait 4 minutes for the two to negotiate a connection. It took a 755cd 90 seconds to negotiate a link. It may be because the 755s use an older IR driver (1.0) and older TranXit software (v1.00, compared to v1.04). All-in-all, however, I'm very impressed by the 760cd. Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 13:36:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23290; Thu, 30 Nov 95 13:36:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26527; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:34:35 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:31:02 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26199; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:30:59 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA17393; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:31:58 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:31:42 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: Thor +ivind Jensen Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: vendor for hard drives In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Thor +ivind Jensen wrote: > I can now easily solve the "box"-part of this, but need a lot more > courage and advise to solve the "connector"-part. I think there are > people in this group that have solved both problems, but to me ist > seems that the ribbon cable from the special connector goes inside > the disk housing so that it can not be changed without removing the > disk cover (breaking warranty labels) Doing "transplant surgery" on the drives is pretty simple. In a nutshell: The only label that you need to move is the one with the /////// on it telling you where to puch to seat the drive. If you peel up the two corners of this, you will see the only two screws you need to remove. Remove them, but me careful not to drop the hex nuts on the other side - they can fall out and be lost forever if you're not working in a clean space. The only other thing necessary is to pry the clips on the side open. If you look at the side of the drive, you'll see these plastic clips kinda like what you'd have on a life preserver. The easiest and safest way to clear those is to gently pry above the clips, starting with the end near the connector. Keep slight pressure outwards to keep them from refastening and you can open all 6 clips w/ no problem. When you do that and open the case, you find the drive just sits in there. The only thing really fastened down in the D connector that sticks out the case. It's just a 44 pin flat connector on one end, similar to what you'd find inside a desktop machine connected to an IDE drive (except this is _44_ instead of the standard IDE 40, because of the power lines) a ribbon cable and an AMP D connector on the other end. Simply pull the 44 pin connector off the old drive and plug the new drive in. Pow, done. Hook it all back up and put it away. The ONLY thing I've begun to wonder about is only relevant if you have a dock with another IDE drive in it. When you pull the IBM drive out, you discover it's unjumpered. I put my Toshiba back in jumpered as master, no slave, but I wonder if it shouldn't be slave present for docking purposes. Any speculation from anyone, or anyone put in a drive jumpered the way I did and manage to use it successfully with a dock and 2nd ide? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 13:39:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23597; Thu, 30 Nov 95 13:39:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26807; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:38:03 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:36:36 -0500 Received: from central.picker.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26599; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:35:30 -0500 Received: from mr.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0tLDXV-0004w7C; Thu, 30 Nov 95 13:16 EST Received: from alpha14 by mr.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-a) id AA02608; Thu, 30 Nov 95 13:16:55 EST From: djr@mr.picker.com (Don Russell) Received: by alpha14; (5.65/1.1.8.2/15May95-0912AM) id AA00779; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:16:54 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:16:54 -0500 Message-Id: <9511301816.AA00779@alpha14> To: hurley@mama-bear.lcs.mit.edu Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9511301642.AA06918@arctos.LCS.MIT.EDU.LCS.MIT.EDU> (message from Ed Hurley on Thu, 30 Nov 1995 11:42:52 -0500) Subject: Re: greetings As soon as our 760 arrives I will be trying to bring up Linux. I would be happy to share experiences with you. -- +------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Don Russell | Internet: djr@mr.picker.com | | Picker International | Voice: (216)-473-5726 | | 5500 Avion Park Drive | Fax: (216) 473-5728 | | Highland Heights, Ohio 44143 | | +------------------------------+-------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 13:47:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25158; Thu, 30 Nov 95 13:47:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27020; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:40:28 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:39:18 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26864; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:39:17 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA17865; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:40:17 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:40:01 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: Dennis Park Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: vendor for hard drives In-Reply-To: <199511300454.UAA33426@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Dennis Park wrote: > IBM Factory Outlet is selling the removeable 170mb Thinkpad HD for only $79. > The drives are small, but one could buy these drives for the shells and > replace the inner drives with higher capacity. Phone number anyone? PC direct I got, Factory Outlet, no. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 13:54:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25839; Thu, 30 Nov 95 13:54:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27877; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:50:26 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:49:10 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27703; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:49:07 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA18525; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:50:17 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:49:59 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: Dennis Park Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: vendor for hard drives In-Reply-To: <199511300454.UAA33426@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Dennis Park wrote: > IBM Factory Outlet is selling the removeable 170mb Thinkpad HD for only $79. > The drives are small, but one could buy these drives for the shells and > replace the inner drives with higher capacity. Whoops - found it (the number) on a web page. The fellow I ordered 2 from (hey, even as 170M drives they're a decent deal) said they have about 200 as of 11/30/95 1400EST. Place your orders now! From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 14:39:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00168; Thu, 30 Nov 95 14:39:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA02036; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:36:49 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:35:31 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01904; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:35:22 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA20631 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:25:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:25:14 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: TP750 Subject: Port replicator for 700/720 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A week or so ago I promised a PR for the 700/720 to someone on the list, who sent me their address. I forwarded it on to my work email address... which promptly ate it, after I'd already deleted the original. Oops. All I remember is you work at Sigma Data.... So if you're out there and still want it, please mail me w/ your address again. Sorry for the confusion.... From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 14:56:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00467; Thu, 30 Nov 95 14:56:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03966; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:53:53 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:53:18 -0500 Received: from vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03882; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:53:16 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id AAA26425; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 00:25:34 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA3730; Thu, 30 Nov 95 14:51:07 -0800 Message-Id: <9511302251.AA3730@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id AD7B2B038FE575C385256284006C547F; Thu, 30 Nov 95 14:51:02 To: Don Whiteside Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 30 Nov 95 14:45:02 EDT Subject: RE: vendor for hard drives X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....Phone number anyone? PC direct I got, Factory Outlet, no....." ~~~~~ 800/426-3395 for a faxback of their current inventory, hit extension 3001 Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 16:48:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11181; Thu, 30 Nov 95 16:48:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15101; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 16:47:21 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 16:43:55 -0500 Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14677; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 16:43:46 -0500 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA14102; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:43:21 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2b7.32.19951130214317.00a6b2a0@serv0.cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2b7 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:43:17 -0600 To: TP750@cs.utk.edu, pwilliams@engr.wisc.edu, masters@engr.wisc.edu, wittmann@engr.wisc.edu, pbkaufma@facstaff.wisc.edu, dnelson@engr.wisc.edu, redmond@engr.wisc.edu From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: SOLUTION: WindowsNT thinkpad video drivers Hi folks, The good news: finally, IBM has video drivers for running Windows NT on the Thinkpad. previously you could only do 640x480x256 (standard VGA) with NT. now you can run NT on a Thinkpad with up to 1024x768x256 resolution (much nicer!). The bad news: the drivers really only work on thinkpads with _active matrix_ LCDs. also, the drivers do not seem as intelligent about switching resolutions automatically when going from LCD to external screen as the Windows 3.1 or Windows 95 drivers.=20 part of the readme file is below. you can grab the NT video driver from the web at ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/mobiles/vf75xwnt.exe. ><< Western Digiatal ThinkPad Video Driver Release Information >> > > -- 10/24/95= -- > >1.0 Install ThinkPad 750/755 family SVGA video device drivers >-------------------------------------------------------- > The standard video drivers included in the Windows NT only supports > up to 16 colors. When you need the color depth more than 16 colors, > it is required to install this Windows NT video drivers which supports > the following feature: > > 640x480 256 colors,(LCD mode, CRT mode and LCD/CRT both mode) > > 800x600 256 colors,(LCD mode and LCD/CRT both mode for 755CX, > CRT mode only for the other 750/755 Family) > > 1024x768 256 colors (CRT mode only) > > This video driver diskette supports the following ThinkPad: > > - ThinkPad 750C/755C/755CE/755CD/755CDV/755CX which has Western Digital > video control chip. > > > Installation Instruction: > > 1. Boot Windows NT Workstation and logon to the system. > 2. Click "Command Prompt" at Main menu > 3. Type the following command at DOS session: > > A:>install C:=FEWINNT35 (enter) > > C:=FEWINNT35 is the drive and path where Windows NT is installed > > > 4. When files are copied, go back to Program Manager - Main > 5. Click "Control Panel" > 6. Click "Display", click "Change Display Type..." > 7. At Adapter Type, click "Change..." and Select the following adapter > at Select Device list > > "Western Digital Graphics Adapter" > > 8. Click "Install" and follow the instruction on the screen > 9. When installation completes, shutdown and restart Windows NT > 10. Click "Display", select 16 colors or 256 colors in "Color Palette" > 11. Click "Test" to make sure that the selected color depth is set > correctly. > 12. Shutdown and Restart Windows NT. Now, you finish the setup for SVGA > setup. > > > >2.0 Known Issues: >----------------- > > - Dynamic resolution change between CRT and LCD and virtual screen= function > are not suppotred. If you use with 1024x768 CRT only mode and switching > from CRT mode to LCD mode (640x480 resolution) for example, screen image will > be forced to 640x480 resolution. Switching back to CRT only mode again stays > with 640x480 resolution on CRT. To restore to 1024x768, go to Display > Settings menu on WindowsNT control panel, select "Test" button to= display > with the previous resolution. > > - When Western Digital SVGA driver is used on 750Cs/755Cs/755CSE which= has > STN color panel, screen is not correctly setup. Abnormal screen image= is > displayed. Current beta driver does not support STN color. > Use 16 color mode for STN type 750Cs/755Cs/755CSE ThinkPad. > > >-------------- End of Release Note= ------------------------------------------- > --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 17:11:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12678; Thu, 30 Nov 95 17:11:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17382; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:09:52 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:08:49 -0500 Received: from pasture.ecn.purdue.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17230; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:08:44 -0500 Received: from pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (sears@localhost) by pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (8.6.12/3.8davy) for delivery to "tp750@cs.utk.edu" id RAA09285; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:08:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199511302208.RAA09285@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:08:30 -0500 From: Michael J Sears To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: vendor for hard drives --> On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Dennis Park wrote: --> --> > IBM Factory Outlet is selling the removeable 170mb Thinkpad HD for only $79. --> > The drives are small, but one could buy these drives for the shells and --> > replace the inner drives with higher capacity. --> --> Phone number anyone? PC direct I got, Factory Outlet, no. I found the number in the computer shopper, 1-800-426-7255 Michael sears@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu PS - Anyone think it might be possible to rig something up & try to get one of these to work in a TP 350? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 17:35:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14518; Thu, 30 Nov 95 17:35:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19089; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:27:49 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:25:58 -0500 Received: from mcmail.vanderbilt.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18823; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:25:54 -0500 From: Received: from in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu by mcmail.vanderbilt.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA12722; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 16:27:50 -0600 Received: from ccMail by in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu (SMTPLINK V2.11 PreRelease 3) id AA817777559; Thu, 30 Nov 95 16:24:04 CST Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 16:24:04 CST Message-Id: <9510308177.AA817777559@in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP 701 & LINUX I am running linux and win95 on my TP 701C . I am wondering what configurations others are using for Linux on a TP 701. Most specifically Video, and sound. I am running X86free in 640x480x256, however I am using a 'generic' svga type of configuration. I would like to have 800x600x256 if possible , and if there is support for it what ever accelleration that the ct&t video has. At current I do not have any sound support loaded either. The web page for thikpads just leaves me questioning what applies to me (my 701). which brings me to my next point. Where are the TP 701 people. Did they leave the group is there another group forming/that formed for 701 users? Kevan P. Riley BioMedical Computing Support Vanderbilt University Medical Center kevan.riley@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 18:18:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16996; Thu, 30 Nov 95 18:18:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23658; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:17:24 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:15:36 -0500 Received: from inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23468; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:15:27 -0500 Received: from inc.net by inc.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28901; Thu, 30 Nov 95 17:15:16 CST Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 17:15:15 CST Message-Id: <9511302315.AA28901@inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Joseph C. Wilson" Subject: Re: You CAN Use DIMM's in a 755CX >Just to start the whole mess again - what about the 750? > > Sorry, can't answer that one. You might give PC Direct a call and ask them for their latest catalog. Good luck, sorry I am not more help. Joe Wilson Badger Valve & Fitting Milwaukee, WI From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 18:35:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17847; Thu, 30 Nov 95 18:35:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25007; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:33:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:32:18 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24866; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:32:09 -0500 Received: from [128.125.223.197] (comserv-g-53.usc.edu [128.125.223.197]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with SMTP id PAA07629; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:32:00 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:40:19 -0800 To: , TP750@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: TP 701 & LINUX At 4:24 PM 11/30/95, wrote: >which brings me to my next point. Where are the TP 701 >people. Did they leave the group is there another group >forming/that formed for 701 users? > >Kevan P. Riley There are some of us here--most of which are either current or former users of 75X machines too. But face it--the list is clearly very 75X (and perhaps soon to be 760) -centric in nature. Nevertheless, us 701 oddballs (and some 35X & 36X series owners) are usually considered quite welcome. It's just a little tougher to touch base since we're the minority and there aren't as many on the list that are "experts" with our machines as there are with the 75X's. The one you want to talk to though, regarding 701's and Linux, is likely John Kim, a former/current 750 owner. He's a Linux guy. However, he just received his 701 today and he's not likely to be in any position to give advice for some time to come. Give him a while to settle in with his new toy. ;-) He should be reading the list here, but if not, you can reach him at jokim@tuna.mit.edu. However, as I said, give him a couple weeks of breathing time--it'll take him that long to figure out his 701. Good luck and welcome to the fold of 701 owners! I feel quite comfortable with my decision to switch over to the 701C from the 750C. I would have gotten a subnotebook long ago if not for the dinky keyboards and micro-mini screens. The 701 did away with those very valid concerns and gave me a reason to get one anyway. But until it came along, the 750C was wonderful--too bad it weighed as much as it did (I can only *imagine* what 760 owners are doing--over 7 pounds?! At what weight does your arm fall off? Seems we're kinda moving in the wrong direction--we did away with the 25-lb suitcase machines long ago and embraced notebook machines for a good *reason*!) ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Home Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 18:45:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18310; Thu, 30 Nov 95 18:45:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25746; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:44:03 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:43:02 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25645; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:42:55 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA01830; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:43:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:42:59 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: kevan.riley@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 701 & LINUX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Randy Whittle wrote: > The one you want to talk to though, regarding 701's and Linux, is > likely John Kim, a former/current 750 owner. He's a Linux guy. However, > he just received his 701 today and he's not likely to be in any position to > give advice for some time to come. Give him a while to settle in with his > new toy. ;-) I think Jim Lee is the trailblazer for Linux on the 701. His positive reports here of Linux on the 701 was the main reason I got the 701. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one jokim@mit.edu that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I have jokim@tuna.mit.edu found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 19:06:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19644; Thu, 30 Nov 95 19:06:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27344; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 19:06:05 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 19:03:15 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA27017; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 19:03:12 -0500 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa20451; 30 Nov 95 18:58 EST Received: by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (5.x/SMI-SVR4 (plus cnri and barry's mods)) id AA15769; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:58:01 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:58:00 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Manheimer Reply-To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US To: Randy Whittle Cc: kevan.riley@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu, TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP 701 & LINUX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here's another 701C (actually, 701Cs) owner, running linux, and pleased as punch. (Hey, do you suppose the 'punch' being referred to is of 'punch & judy' fame? That is one smug puppy, after all - but not a very pleasant one!) (... but i digress...-) Re your questions - i got my xf86 config file from someone on this list, and consequently didn't even try to fathom the intricacies, which i barely had under control the other time i messed with linux. I'm sending a copy of it, below, since i believe it does the 800x600 that you're seeking. (I disabled the 800x600 mode in the copy i use, since i prefer to have things contained on the screen, when possible, but with the option to move off, via fvwm.) Re the merits of the 701 w/linux - all in all, given what i spent, i don't think i could have gotten a better arrangement for a portable system, given my unix experience and priority on a fairly light, compact machine... Anway, the xf86 config file, as the guy posted it, is attached below my sig. Cheers! ken manheimer klm@cnri.reston.va.us (703) 620-8990 x259 Corporation for National Research Initiatives 1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 100 Reston, VA 22091 # $XConsortium: XF86Conf.cpp,v 1.5 95/01/16 13:16:10 kaleb Exp $ # $XFree86: xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/XF86Conf.cpp,v 3.11 1995/01/28 15:46:18 dawes Exp $ # # Copyright (c) 1994 by The XFree86 Project, Inc. # # Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a # copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), # to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation # the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, # and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the # Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: # # The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in # all copies or substantial portions of the Software. # # THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR # IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, # FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL # THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, # WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF # OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE # SOFTWARE. # # Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall # not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other # dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the # XFree86 Project. # # ********************************************************************** # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of # this file. This man page is installed as /usr/X11R6/man/man5/XF86Config.5x # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set # ********************************************************************** Section "Files" # The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally # no need to change the default. RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together), # as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath # command (or a combination of both methods) FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Server flags section. # ********************************************************************** Section "ServerFlags" # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is # received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging # NoTrapSignals # Uncomment this to disable the server abort sequence # This allows clients to receive this key event. # DontZap # Uncomment this to disable the / mode switching # sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events. # DontZoom EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Input devices # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Keyboard section # ********************************************************************** Section "Keyboard" Protocol "Standard" # when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the # following line # Protocol "Xqueue" AutoRepeat 500 5 # Let the server do the NumLock processing. This should only be required # when using pre-R6 clients # ServerNumLock # Specifiy which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) # Xleds 1 2 3 # To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift, # RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock: # LeftAlt Meta # RightAlt ModeShift # RightCtl Compose # ScrollLock ModeLock EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Pointer section # ********************************************************************** Section "Pointer" Protocol "PS/2" Device "/dev/mouse" # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment # the following line. # Protocol "Xqueue" # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice # BaudRate 9600 # SampleRate 150 # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice Emulate3Buttons # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice # ChordMiddle EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Monitor section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of monitor sections may be present Section "Monitor" Identifier "Generic Monitor" VendorName "Unknown" ModelName "Unknown" # Bandwidth is in MHz unless units are specified Bandwidth 65 # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. HorizSync 30-64 # typical for a single frequency fixed-sync monitor # HorizSync 30-64 # multisync # HorizSync 31.5, 35.2 # multiple fixed sync frequencies # HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. VertRefresh 50-100 # typical for a single frequency fixed-sync monitor # VertRefresh 50-100 # multisync # VertRefresh 60, 65 # multiple fixed sync frequencies # VertRefresh 40-50, 80-100 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies # Modes can be specified in two formats. A compact one-line format, or # a multi-line format. # A generic VGA 640x480 mode (hsync = 31.5kHz, refresh = 60Hz) # These two are equivalent # ModeLine "640x480" 25.175 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525 Mode "640x480" DotClock 28.32 HTimings 640 664 760 800 VTimings 480 491 493 525 EndMode # These two are equivalent # ModeLine "1024x768i" 45 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace Mode "1024x768" DotClock 28.32 HTimings 1024 1048 1208 1264 VTimings 768 776 784 817 # Flags "Interlace" EndMode EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Graphics device section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of graphics device sections may be present Section "Device" Identifier "ThinkPad 701" VendorName "IBM" BoardName "Internal" Chipset "ct65545" VideoRam 1024 # Clocks 28.29 28.32 28.29 28.29 28.29 28.29 28.28 28.28 EndSection Section "Device" # SVGA server auto-detected chipset Identifier "Generic SVGA" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" EndSection # Section "Device" # Identifier "Any Trident TVGA 9000" # VendorName "Trident" # BoardName "TVGA 9000" # Chipset "tvga9000" # VideoRam 512 # Clocks 25 28 45 36 57 65 50 40 25 28 0 45 72 77 80 75 # EndSection # Section "Device" # Identifier "Actix GE32+ 2MB" # VendorName "Actix" # BoardName "GE32+" # Ramdac "ATT20C490" # Dacspeed 110 # Option "dac_8_bit" # Clocks 25.0 28.0 40.0 0.0 50.0 77.0 36.0 45.0 # Clocks 130.0 120.0 80.0 31.0 110.0 65.0 75.0 94.0 # EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Screen sections # ********************************************************************** # The colour SVGA server Section "Screen" Driver "svga" Device "ThinkPad 701" Monitor "Generic Monitor" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "640x480" "1024x768" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection EndSection # The 16-colour VGA server Section "Screen" Driver "vga16" Device "ThinkPad 701" Monitor "Generic Monitor" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection EndSection # The Mono server Section "Screen" Driver "vga2" Device "ThinkPad 701" Monitor "Generic Monitor" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection EndSection # The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32) # Section "Screen" # Driver "accel" # Device "Actix GE32+ 2MB" # Monitor "Generic Monitor" # Subsection "Display" # Depth 8 # Modes "640x480" # ViewPort 0 0 # Virtual 1280 1024 # EndSubsection # SubSection "Display" # Depth 16 # Weight 565 # Modes "640x480" # ViewPort 0 0 # Virtual 1024 768 # EndSubsection # EndSection From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 20:31:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25642; Thu, 30 Nov 95 20:31:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02971; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 20:29:53 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 20:28:33 -0500 Received: from speed3.speed.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02897; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 20:28:30 -0500 From: Received: from kev.deltanet.net (ana1033.deltanet.com [199.171.191.33]) by speed3.speed.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA27410 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:28:26 -0800 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 17:26:07 PST Subject: Re: vendor for hard drives To: tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Chameleon V0.05, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII >Doing "transplant surgery" on the drives is pretty simple. In a nutshell: > >[SNIP] > >Simply pull the 44 pin connector off the old drive and plug the new drive >in. Pow, done. Hook it all back up and put it away. Don't forget that if you're using DOS, Windows 3.11, or OS/2 that you'll need to use a software package like EZ Drive or Disk Manager on drives that are larger than 528MB (1024 cylinders). Otherwise, FDISK will give you a shocking disk drive capacity measure ("14MB" on a 540MB drive, etc.), and won't allow you to partition the drive properly. Most new 2.5" drives are now above 540MB. For more info on EZ Drive, you can visit Micro-House's web pages at http://www.microhouse.com/, or see our pages at http://warrior.com/ezdrive. --------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Prince | Check out the Road Warrior Outpost kevin@warrior.com | at --> http://warrior.com <-- 714.418.1400 x101 | Solutions for the Mobile Professional --------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 20:44:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26919; Thu, 30 Nov 95 20:44:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04110; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 20:43:36 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 20:42:29 -0500 Received: from luyou by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA04000; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 20:42:13 -0500 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by luyou (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id JAA12312 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 09:36:16 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199512010136.JAA12312@luyou> Subject: TP345 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 09:36:16 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text hi, Has anyone used the scaled-up TP360 => TP345? I assume I can swap stuff from TP75x & TP360 to the TP345.. yes? Other than the MWAVE on the TP755 and extra memory possible are there any other differences Any th the TP345? Comments appreciated. Cheers. __________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Nov 30 21:26:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00044; Thu, 30 Nov 95 21:26:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06967; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 21:25:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 21:24:12 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA06823; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 21:24:11 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id SAA23154; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:24:08 -0800 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma023145; Thu Nov 30 18:24:05 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (pctedf.cadence.com [158.140.56.21]) by cds9258.cadence.com (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id SAA17912; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:24:03 -0800 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 18:24:03 -0800 Message-Id: <199512010224.SAA17912@cds9258.cadence.com> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Doug Fairclough From: Ted Frederick Subject: Re: MegaHertz PCMCIA lan adaptor with 755cx Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu I've had problems with Zircom's Ethernet PCMCIA (it never configured right) and went to a 3-Com 3C589B-TP Ethernet PCMCIA and haven't had a problem. BTW, I have a P/75 755CDV. At 01:20 AM 11/30/95 -0800, Doug Fairclough wrote: > >has anyone bought this and gotten it to work ? or had any >problems ? it seems like it may have nuked my MWave DSP, >but this is still under investigation. > >thanks. > >doug From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 1 00:04:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12402; Fri, 1 Dec 95 00:04:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19030; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 00:04:08 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 1 Dec 1995 00:00:55 -0500 Received: from post.QueensU.CA by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18265; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 00:00:47 -0500 Received: from Cancer111.meds.QueensU.CA (Cancer111.meds.QueensU.CA [130.15.104.111]) by post.QueensU.CA (8.6.12/8.6.10+ASH) with SMTP id AAA05309 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 00:00:19 -0500 Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 00:00:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199512010500.AAA05309@post.QueensU.CA> X-Sender: gerlachj@post.queensu.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Jim Gerlach Subject: RE: vendor for hard drives At 05:08 PM 11/30/95 -0500, you wrote: >--> On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Dennis Park wrote: >--> > IBM Factory Outlet is selling the removeable 170mb Thinkpad HD for only $79. >--> > Phone number anyone? PC direct I got, Factory Outlet, no. > >I found the number in the computer shopper, 1-800-426-7255 > >Michael >sears@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu > >PS - Anyone think it might be possible to rig something up & try to get > one of these to work in a TP 350? I was wondering the samething about the TP360. Cheers, Jim Gerlach ------- Cancer Research Laboratories Queen's University Kingston, Ontario Canada K7L 3N6 e-mail: gerlachj@post.queensu.ca tel: (613) 545-6000 ext 5082 fax: (613) 545-6830 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 1 05:17:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29859; Fri, 1 Dec 95 05:17:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA08645; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 05:16:14 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 1 Dec 1995 05:08:14 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA07753; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 05:08:06 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) id CAA25903; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 02:06:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 02:06:41 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus Cc: TP Subject: Re: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem In-Reply-To: <9511172021.AA21331@internet1.lotus.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII this is under win95. after installing the megahertz sw, audio was histo. so what do you do ? reload. oh. but the Megahertz is a pcmcia lan adaptor, not a modem. so maybe i responding to the wrong post ! but the original text was gone. doug On 17 Nov 1995, Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus wrote: > > [Eugene Fiume] > > Two good reasons I can think of: > > (1) Getting audio while being connected at 28.8K. > I thought the faster 2nd generation Mwave processor > was fast enough for simulatenous sound and 28.8K operation? > It definitely didn't work under the initial Mwave chip from IBM's > first Mwave cards. > Is this under OS/2 or Windows that you can't do both at > once? > > ken > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 1 05:17:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29858; Fri, 1 Dec 95 05:17:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA08655; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 05:16:16 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 1 Dec 1995 05:08:12 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA07754; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 05:08:10 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) id CAA26002; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 02:07:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 02:07:52 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: Randal Whittle Cc: "Dennis J. Gormley" , TP Subject: Re: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem In-Reply-To: <199511161600.IAA13472@aludra.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII megahertz sucks. the pcmcia lan adaptor kills the dsp audio. yuck ! what crapola ! plug and play, sure. On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, Randal Whittle wrote: > > > I have a brand new Megahertz 28.8 modem that I can't get to work in my > > > TP755CE under Warp. I've disabled the MWave modem, and when I reboot, > > > the TP knows there's a card in the slot. But it doesn't respond to any > > > comm program - the message says the com2 port is not active. I tried > > > the card in a TP750CS that had a working modem (not a Megahertz, > > > though) and got the same message about the com2 port. Is there > > > anything else I need to do before deciding the card itself is bad? > > > > With our 755CE, I found that in addition to disabling the MWAVE, we also had > > reconfigure the ports with the utilities DSP and SERIAL found in the ThinkPad > > Setup program group. > > What I don't understand is this: With a software upgrade, the > MWAVE can do 28.8K--so why would you want to even use the Megahertz modem? > > I can see it if you wanted 28.8K and your internal only did 14.4... > > ----- ____________________________ > Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | > USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | > "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| > Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- > -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 1 10:03:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17668; Fri, 1 Dec 95 10:03:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03207; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:02:36 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:00:00 -0500 Received: from Starbase.NeoSoft.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA02878; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 09:59:56 -0500 Received: from hac016.ep.hess.com (ottoman@starbase.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.6.26]) by Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id IAA27774 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 08:59:17 -0600 (CST) Received: by hac016.ep.hess.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BABFCB.3E89E240@hac016.ep.hess.com>; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 08:58:55 -0600 Message-Id: <01BABFCB.3E89E240@hac016.ep.hess.com> From: "Otto J. Helweg" To: "'Thinkpad 750 Listserver Post'" Subject: Anybody Running NT on a 755CX? Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 08:53:57 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy y'all, I've been asked to try running NT on a 755CX and I was wondering if = there are any problems that I should be prepared for. Will the following = work: -mwave audio -mwave modem -mwave fax -Infrared port -power/battery features Windows 95 runs so well right now that I don't even want to bother with = NT, but when the boss speaks.... -otto ottoman@neosoft.com Senior Network Specialist Amerada Hess Corporation http:\\www.neosoft.com\~ottoman From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 1 10:08:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18203; Fri, 1 Dec 95 10:08:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03757; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:08:15 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:07:30 -0500 Received: from Fe3.rust.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA03651; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:07:27 -0500 Received: from liv-14.rust.net by Fe3.rust.net via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id KAA07279; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:11:21 -0800 Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:11:21 -0800 Message-Id: <199512011811.KAA07279@Fe3.rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Will 701s move to 28.8 I almost bought a refurbished 755 because there was a IBM software upgrade coming out to convert the 14.4 modem to 28.8. I bought the 701c which I like because of it's size and weight. I use this 701c mostly for internet access. Do you think that IBM will have a software upgrade, like the 755s or offer a hardware module? I could always purchase a 28.8 pc card but I like the thought of having it built in... B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan - billb@rust.net - http://www.rust.net/~billb - N8QPI Livonia, MI - " V e r y G o o d R o b i n " - Howard Stern =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 1 10:34:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19188; Fri, 1 Dec 95 10:34:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05586; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:33:22 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:32:21 -0500 Received: from greece.elab.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05492; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:32:19 -0500 Received: (stevens@localhost) by greece.elab.columbia.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4.elab) id KAA04065; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:32:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:32:10 -0500 From: stevens@elab.columbia.edu (Andy Stevens) Message-Id: <199512011532.KAA04065@greece.elab.columbia.edu> To: kevin@warrior.com Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: vendor for hard drives >Don't forget that if you're using DOS, Windows 3.11, or OS/2 that you'll >need to use a software package like EZ Drive or Disk Manager on drives that >are larger than 528MB (1024 cylinders). I don't understand, I thought that the latest BIOS for the 750 series had no problems with drives greater than 512MB. --andy From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 1 10:36:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19505; Fri, 1 Dec 95 10:36:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06039; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:36:20 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:35:15 -0500 Received: from dilbert.daily.umn.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05859; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:35:13 -0500 Received: by dilbert.daily.umn.edu (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI.AUTO) id JAA15411; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 09:29:57 -0600 From: "George Niece" Message-Id: <9512010929.ZM15409@dilbert.daily.umn.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 09:29:51 -0600 In-Reply-To: stevens@elab.columbia.edu (Andy Stevens) "vendor for hard drives" (Nov 29, 1:58pm) References: <199511291858.NAA24013@greece.elab.columbia.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 6apr95 MediaMail) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu, stevens@elab.columbia.edu (Andy Stevens) Subject: Re: vendor for hard drives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii FORZ Corporation Bob Burger - District Sales Manager 4400 Route 9 South Suite 1000 Freehold, New Jersey 07728 Tel: 1-908-714-0828 Fax: 1-908-714-0813 E-mail: bburger@village.ios.com http://www.themarketplace.com/full/sforza.html I am getting 340's for 189 a piece. The real IBM factory warrantied drive. He can be a bit slow, it took me about two weeks to get my last batch ordered. I never really asked if he had 540 or 810. These units are excellent for someone who wants to run several operating systems without having to deal with dual(multiple) boot configurations. This is the best price I have found so if someone has a better deal let me know. I buy these in 5 packs for 169, but I believe that he said 189 a piece for singles. -- George Niece, IS Manager for the Minnesota Daily niece@dilbert.daily.umn.edu --- http://www.daily.umn.edu/~niece/ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 1 10:43:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19790; Fri, 1 Dec 95 10:43:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06573; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:43:00 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:42:21 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06469; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:42:19 -0500 Received: from [128.125.223.77] (comserv-f-05.usc.edu [128.125.223.77]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with SMTP id HAA23450; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 07:42:10 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 07:50:30 -0800 To: Bill Bryan , tp750@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: Will 701s move to 28.8 At 10:11 AM 12/1/95, Bill Bryan wrote: >I almost bought a refurbished 755 because there was a IBM software upgrade >coming out to convert the 14.4 modem to 28.8. I bought the 701c which I >like because of it's size and weight. I use this 701c mostly for internet >access. Do you think that IBM will have a software upgrade, like the 755s >or offer a hardware module? I could always purchase a 28.8 pc card but I >like the thought of having it built in... The 701 uses a DSP chip by Yamaha. Its a good chip, but its not an IBM MWave, and lacks the programmability to 28.8K that the MWave has. I think you're out of luck... ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Home Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 1 10:52:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20821; Fri, 1 Dec 95 10:52:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07537; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:51:43 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:50:34 -0500 Received: from mcmail.vanderbilt.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07250; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:50:31 -0500 From: Received: from in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu by mcmail.vanderbilt.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA18468; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 09:52:32 -0600 Received: from ccMail by in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu (SMTPLINK V2.11 PreRelease 3) id AA817840233; Fri, 01 Dec 95 09:47:55 CST Date: Fri, 01 Dec 95 09:47:55 CST Message-Id: <9511018178.AA817840233@in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Returned mail: User unknown --> > IBM Factory Outlet is selling the removeable 170mb Thinkpad HD for only $79. --> > The drives are small, but one could buy these drives for the shells and --> > replace the inner drives with higher capacity. --> --> Phone number anyone? PC direct I got, Factory Outlet, no. >I found the number in the computer shopper, 1-800-426-7255 >PS - Anyone think it might be possible to rig something up & try to get > one of these to work in a TP 350? Well I don't know about the tp-360, But I called (just in case it might work) ans asked about whether it would work with a tp701 and the guy said no. I figured as much, when I had a tp750 the drive was bigger and resided under the keyboard. On the tp701 the drive is much smaller and have its own little cartridge like case that snaps in (for those unfamiliar with the 701). It is a good deal though!! Kevan Riley BioMedical Computing Support Vanderbilt University Medical Center kevan.riley@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu KD4RMR Nashville, Tn From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 1 11:00:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21222; Fri, 1 Dec 95 11:00:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08290; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 11:00:13 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:59:25 -0500 Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08146; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:59:19 -0500 Received: from [192.70.249.32] (mac32.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA21909; Fri, 1 Dec 95 10:59:15 EST Message-Id: <9512011559.AA21909@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 12:15:41 +0100 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: vendor for hard drives >>Don't forget that if you're using DOS, Windows 3.11, or OS/2 that you'll >>need to use a software package like EZ Drive or Disk Manager on drives that >>are larger than 528MB (1024 cylinders). > >I don't understand, I thought that the latest BIOS for the 750 series >had no problems with drives greater than 512MB. Yes, this was fixed in a bios which was available when I got my 540meg more than a year ago. It did give me a scare when I originally installed the drive with the older bios. ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 1 13:58:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04871; Fri, 1 Dec 95 13:58:19 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23938; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 13:57:38 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 1 Dec 1995 13:54:43 -0500 Received: from hoover.stanford.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23667; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 13:54:40 -0500 Received: from DBark.Stanford.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #13307) id <01HYAGY2II9S005W22@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Fri, 01 Dec 1995 10:54:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 1995 10:54:23 -0800 (PST) Date-Warning: Date header was inserted by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU From: "Dennis L. Bark" Subject: 14.4 modem upgrade X-Sender: bark@hoover.stanford.edu To: IN@"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Message-Id: <01HYAGY2LQ0I005W22@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I have a 755 CE with the 14.4 M-Wave. How do I upgrade it to 28.8? Or is that not possible? Thank you for responding to what may be the wrong questions. D. L. Bark at Stanford University From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 1 14:26:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07506; Fri, 1 Dec 95 14:26:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26461; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:25:42 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:23:40 -0500 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26206; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:23:35 -0500 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by Eisner.DECUS.Org (PMDF V4.2-12 #4291) id <01HYANOOR5SW001TGJ@Eisner.DECUS.Org>; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:07:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 1995 14:07:38 -0500 (EST) From: billy@mix.com Subject: Re: 14.4 modem upgrade In-Reply-To: <01HYAGY2LQ0I005W22@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> Sender: YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <817844858.302201.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Mail-System-Version: > I have a 755 CE with the 14.4 M-Wave. How do I upgrade it to 28.8? Or is > that not possible? Ftp to ftp.pcco.ibm.com, cd to pub/mobiles and get MWD2*.* for dos and MWW2*.* for windows (or file names something very close to this). Billy Y.. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 1 14:51:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08828; Fri, 1 Dec 95 14:51:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29155; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:50:54 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:49:36 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28910; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:49:34 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id LAA24665; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 11:49:28 -0800 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma024585; Fri Dec 1 11:49:12 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (pctedf.cadence.com [158.140.56.21]) by cds9258.cadence.com (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id LAA10813; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 11:49:06 -0800 Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 11:49:06 -0800 Message-Id: <199512011949.LAA10813@cds9258.cadence.com> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Doug Fairclough From: Ted Frederick Subject: Re: TP755Cx and Megahertz modem Cc: Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus , TP Lesson #1. Don't install hardware drivers unless you are certain they were designed to supercede the ones that come with Win95. At 02:06 AM 12/1/95 -0800, Doug Fairclough wrote: > >this is under win95. after installing the megahertz sw, audio was >histo. so what do you do ? reload. > >oh. but the Megahertz is a pcmcia lan adaptor, not a modem. so >maybe i responding to the wrong post ! but the original text >was gone. > >doug > >On 17 Nov 1995, Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus wrote: > >> > [Eugene Fiume] >> > Two good reasons I can think of: >> > (1) Getting audio while being connected at 28.8K. >> I thought the faster 2nd generation Mwave processor >> was fast enough for simulatenous sound and 28.8K operation? >> It definitely didn't work under the initial Mwave chip from IBM's >> first Mwave cards. >> Is this under OS/2 or Windows that you can't do both at >> once? >> >> ken >> > > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 1 14:58:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09096; Fri, 1 Dec 95 14:58:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29900; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:58:19 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:55:49 -0500 Received: from mcmail.vanderbilt.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29610; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:55:45 -0500 From: Received: from in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu by mcmail.vanderbilt.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA21323; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 13:57:43 -0600 Received: from ccMail by in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu (SMTPLINK V2.11 PreRelease 3) id AA817854929; Fri, 01 Dec 95 13:50:51 CST Date: Fri, 01 Dec 95 13:50:51 CST Message-Id: <9511018178.AA817854929@in2.mcmail.vanderbilt.edu> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: The $79 hd and the 701 --> > IBM Factory Outlet is selling the removeable 170mb Thinkpad HD for only $79. --> > The drives are small, but one could buy these drives for the shells and --> > replace the inner drives with higher capacity. --> --> Phone number anyone? PC direct I got, Factory Outlet, no. >I found the number in the computer shopper, 1-800-426-7255 >PS - Anyone think it might be possible to rig something up & try to get > one of these to work in a TP 350? Well I don't know about the tp-360, But I called (just in case it might work) ans asked about whether it would work with a tp701 and the guy said no. I figured as much, when I had a tp750 the drive was bigger and resided under the keyboard. On the tp701 the drive is much smaller and have its own little cartridge like case that snaps in (for those unfamiliar with the 701). It is a good deal though!! Kevan Riley BioMedical Computing Support Vanderbilt University Medical Center kevan.riley@mcmail.vanderbilt.edu KD4RMR Nashville, Tn From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 1 15:47:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12762; Fri, 1 Dec 95 15:47:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05001; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 15:47:32 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 1 Dec 1995 15:45:59 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04794; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 15:45:55 -0500 Received: from [128.125.224.90] (comserv-i-18.usc.edu [128.125.224.90]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with SMTP id MAA09727; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 12:45:45 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 12:54:05 -0800 To: "Dennis L. Bark" From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: 14.4 modem upgrade Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu At 10:54 AM 12/1/95, Dennis L. Bark wrote: >I have a 755 CE with the 14.4 M-Wave. How do I upgrade it to 28.8? Or is >that not possible? > >Thank you for responding to what may be the wrong questions. > >D. L. Bark at Stanford University FTP the software upgrade from IBM. I think you can find it on their web site--www.ibm.com (or some derivative of that). ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Home Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 1 15:54:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13131; Fri, 1 Dec 95 15:54:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05576; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 15:53:46 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 1 Dec 1995 15:52:56 -0500 Received: from cs.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05469; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 15:52:53 -0500 Received: from jones.cs.brown.edu (jones.cs.brown.edu [128.148.38.144]) by cs.brown.edu (8.7.1/Bullwinkle1.1) with ESMTP id PAA24869; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 15:52:44 -0500 (EST) From: Sridhar Ramaswamy Received: (sr@localhost) by jones.cs.brown.edu (8.7.1/BrownCS1.0) id PAA17558; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 15:52:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 15:52:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199512012052.PAA17558@jones.cs.brown.edu> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu, tannenba@engr.wisc.edu Subject: Re: two hard drives for thinkpad 755cx I just spoke to IBM about this. They say that it is not possible. --Sridhar From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 1 18:55:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24765; Fri, 1 Dec 95 18:55:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22683; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 18:55:23 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 1 Dec 1995 18:51:55 -0500 Received: from arctos.LCS.MIT.EDU.LCS.MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA22455; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 18:51:49 -0500 Received: by arctos.LCS.MIT.EDU.LCS.MIT.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28153; Fri, 1 Dec 95 18:51:39 EST Message-Id: <9512012351.AA28153@arctos.LCS.MIT.EDU.LCS.MIT.EDU> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: pcmcia modems and audio Date: Fri, 01 Dec 1995 18:51:39 -0500 From: Ed Hurley recently i've seen a lot of mail on this list regarding pcmcia modems and audio. some of it has led me to believe that i can't use the audio and pcmcia modem card simultaneously. is this correct? i need to know because i want to port some speech recognition apps to my tp755cv (and soon tp760c), and i really want to be able to run those apps remotely while connecting back to my home servers via pcmcia modem and slip. oh, i'm running linux. any help appreciated, -ed From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 1 19:10:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25790; Fri, 1 Dec 95 19:10:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23567; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 19:09:53 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 1 Dec 1995 19:08:30 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23490; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 19:08:27 -0500 Received: from [128.125.222.132] (comserv-d-60.usc.edu [128.125.222.132]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with SMTP id QAA15343; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 16:08:14 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 16:16:35 -0800 To: Ed Hurley , TP750@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: pcmcia modems and audio At 6:51 PM 12/1/95, Ed Hurley wrote: >recently i've seen a lot of mail on this list regarding >pcmcia modems and audio. some of it has led me to believe >that i can't use the audio and pcmcia modem card simultaneously. >is this correct? i need to know because i want to port some >speech recognition apps to my tp755cv (and soon tp760c), and >i really want to be able to run those apps remotely while >connecting back to my home servers via pcmcia modem and slip. Actually, as I understood it, it was that the DSP couldn't handle doing 28.8K while it was also doing sound (anyone want to comment on its ability to do 14.4K while doing sound? Can it?). It sounded as if the reason someone was interested in a PCMCIA card was so they *could* run the (PCMCIA) modem and still get sound at the same time, whereas the DSP couldn't do both tasks at once. >oh, i'm running linux. > >any help appreciated, And I know nothing about linux! ;-) Seems to me though that the linux users had more or less said that their wasn't a driver to run the DSP modem--at least not at 28.8K or something like that. Someone with more knowledge care to comment? >-ed ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Home Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 1 19:26:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26745; Fri, 1 Dec 95 19:26:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24616; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 19:26:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 1 Dec 1995 19:24:58 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24416; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 19:24:50 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) id QAA01195; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 16:24:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 16:24:34 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: Ed Hurley Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: pcmcia modems and audio In-Reply-To: <9512012351.AA28153@arctos.LCS.MIT.EDU.LCS.MIT.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII this also seems to correspond to using a pcmcia lan adaptor and getting audio at the same time. but worse, i think the pcmcia modem kills dsp audio for good, but i will post later on the particular travails i am undergoing right now. doug On Fri, 1 Dec 1995, Ed Hurley wrote: > > recently i've seen a lot of mail on this list regarding > pcmcia modems and audio. some of it has led me to believe > that i can't use the audio and pcmcia modem card simultaneously. > is this correct? i need to know because i want to port some > speech recognition apps to my tp755cv (and soon tp760c), and > i really want to be able to run those apps remotely while > connecting back to my home servers via pcmcia modem and slip. > > oh, i'm running linux. > > any help appreciated, > -ed > > > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 1 19:58:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28656; Fri, 1 Dec 95 19:58:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26202; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 19:58:12 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 1 Dec 1995 19:56:36 -0500 Received: from polaris.cv.nrao.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26076; Fri, 1 Dec 1995 19:56:33 -0500 Received: by polaris.cv.nrao.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA40264; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:17:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:17:20 -0500 From: awootten@polaris.cv.nrao.edu (Al Wootten) Message-Id: <9511302217.AA40264@polaris.cv.nrao.edu> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: vendor for hard drives In-Reply-To: <199511302208.RAA09285@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu> References: <199511302208.RAA09285@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu> Michael J. Sears writes: > --> On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Dennis Park wrote: > --> > --> > IBM Factory Outlet is selling the removeable 170mb Thinkpad HD for only $79. > --> > The drives are small, but one could buy these drives for the shells and > --> > replace the inner drives with higher capacity. > --> > --> Phone number anyone? PC direct I got, Factory Outlet, no. > > I found the number in the computer shopper, 1-800-426-7255 > > Michael > sears@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu > > PS - Anyone think it might be possible to rig something up & try to get > one of these to work in a TP 350? > Or TP355? Al +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Alwyn Wootten (http://www.cv.nrao.edu/~awootten/) | | Astronomer, National Radio Astronomy Observatory | | 520 Edgemont Road, Charlottesville, VA 22903-2475, USA| | (804)-296-0329 voice Let's build The Millimeter Array| | (804)-296-0278 FAX {> {> {> {> | +------------------------------^-----^-----^-----^------+ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 2 01:04:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17844; Sat, 2 Dec 95 01:04:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA19467; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 01:03:59 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 2 Dec 1995 01:01:05 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA19306; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 01:01:01 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id BAA00706; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 01:01:16 -0500 Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 01:01:16 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Report: Linux install on 701C Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It took me nearly a day, but I finally got it running. I've got a 701C with 8MB and a 720MB hard drive. I also have IBM's PCMCIA ethernet card, so I decided to be different and try Red Hat's Linux distribution, v2.1. It supports installation over ftp if you have a supported ethernet adapter (including PCMCIA) and are on the Internet via ethernet. My first problems seemed to be memory related. Red Hat's installation requires at least 8MB RAM and an 8MB swap partition. I wanted to install a small copy of Linux so I could backup all the demo software that came with the 701. Catch-22. When will vendors start to ship large drives with two partitions? I couldn't get Novell TCP/IP for DOS to recognize the ethernet card, and I ended up accidently deleting most of the demo software. I gave up and formatted the entire drive. I noticed the external floppy was rather slow (3x-4x) at reading Linux boot disks (both Red Hat's and Slackware). After that, things went surprisingly smoothly. Red Hat's distrubution really does install via ftp. However, the ftp install doesn't give you the option to pick individual components from a series (I suspect the CD-ROM and hard drive installs do - they use an X interface), so I went with a minimal install of the basic and network series. I can always install the remaining components later, one by one via ftp. Avoid the dosemu series at this stage. It caused out-of-memory errors and hung the install. After Red Hat finished installing (the menus are friendlier than the Slackware distribution), it installed LILO, rebooted, and I got an "LI" before the computer locked up. I spent the last 15 hours trying to figure this one out. My configuration was a 250MB DOS partition, a 422MB Linux partition, and a 16MB Linux swapfile. I suspected it was a problem with the 720MB hard drive having more than 1024 cylinders, but none of the tried and true solutions to that problem helped. Eventually I figured it out - the 701's BIOS remaps the hard drive to <1024 cylinders. The Linux fdisk program will report 1400 cyl, 16 heads, 63 sectors, which I suspect is the true geometry. But if you run the dparam DOS program that comes with lilo, it'll report 699 cyl, 32 heads, 63 sectors. I had to give the boot floppy a hd=699,32,63 parameter, repartition, and reinstall, but it worked just fine after that. So if you're unsure of the disk geometry, grab the dparam.com and dparam.img DOS programs that come with lilo and run them first. If you don't get the geometry right the first time, your partitions will not fall on cylinder borders and you'll have to repartition and reinstall to fix it. Does anybody know what happens to those two extra cylinders at the end? Another reason I went with Red Hat is that their install scripts support upgrading - no more wondering what files are safe to delete if you install a new kernel or other software. I haven't had much chance to play with it yet, but it'll be worth it if this feature really works. Check out http://www.redhat.com if you're interested. Do some of you 701 Linux folks suppose we should put up a web page or something about our experiences? ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one jokim@mit.edu that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I have jokim@tuna.mit.edu found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 2 01:56:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20198; Sat, 2 Dec 95 01:56:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21963; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 01:56:44 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 2 Dec 1995 01:55:33 -0500 Received: from panix2.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21842; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 01:55:25 -0500 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id BAA19263; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 01:54:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 01:54:00 -0500 (EST) From: Michael MacDonald To: Thinkpad mailing list , Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus Subject: Re: 760cd impressions In-Reply-To: <9512012240.AA04459@internet1.lotus.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Video out resolution is not too bad...slightly better than the 755cd. On a TV, you can probably get around 200 lines of resolution -- slightly worse than VHS. I haven't tried external 1024x768 video yet. I run Win3.1 and OS/2, both of which were pre-loaded on the 760cd. OS/2 performance is way better than on the 755cd, but I'm still probably going to uninstall it to make room on the HD. I plan to move to NT as soon as there is more support for it from IBM; NT is the only OS I use at work. One weird thing I've noticed is the sound of the 1.2 GB HD when it's reading/writing. It sometimes sounds like loose coins bouncing around in a washing machine. Very fast, however. I definitely don't like these speakers. The 755cd's are much louder and clearer. I don't much like this wrist rest either. Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu On 1 Dec 1995, Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus wrote: > > the water. It's much faster, the screen is significantly larger *and* > > brighter, and the special features (4x cdrom, mpeg, video in/out) are > > incredible. > Thanks for the quick review... > Is the resolution through video out crisp? Is the external video > out at 1024x768 fuzzy (the 755cx was)-: > And are you running anything unusual for an OS (Win95, NT, OS/2)? > > thanks, > > ken > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 2 02:17:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21141; Sat, 2 Dec 95 02:17:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23534; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 02:17:03 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 2 Dec 1995 02:15:22 -0500 Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23366; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 02:15:13 -0500 Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 02:15:26 -0500 Received: from [132.236.155.114] by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) with SMTP id AA40933; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 02:15:26 -0500 Message-Id: <9512020715.AA40933@hepth.cornell.edu> X-Sender: lrj@hepth.cornell.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Doug Fairclough From: Lew Jansen Subject: Re: pcmcia modems and audio Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu I haven't been following this closely, but this message caught my eye. I use a 3com 3c589B PCMCIA ethernet adapter daily on my 755cx with no problems with the MWave 2.0 -- either sound or 28.8k dialups (can't do the last two together tho it seems). -- Lew At 04:24 PM 12/1/95 -0800, you wrote: > >this also seems to correspond to using a pcmcia lan adaptor >and getting audio at the same time. but worse, i think the >pcmcia modem kills dsp audio for good, but i will post later >on the particular travails i am undergoing right now. > >doug > >On Fri, 1 Dec 1995, Ed Hurley wrote: > >> >> recently i've seen a lot of mail on this list regarding >> pcmcia modems and audio. some of it has led me to believe >> that i can't use the audio and pcmcia modem card simultaneously. >> is this correct? i need to know because i want to port some >> speech recognition apps to my tp755cv (and soon tp760c), and >> i really want to be able to run those apps remotely while >> connecting back to my home servers via pcmcia modem and slip. >> >> oh, i'm running linux. >> >> any help appreciated, >> -ed >> >> >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Lew Jansen lrj2@cornell.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 2 07:43:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11493; Sat, 2 Dec 95 07:43:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18067; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 07:42:53 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 2 Dec 1995 07:36:07 -0500 Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA17726; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 07:35:54 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 2 Dec 95 07:35 EST From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: jokim@tuna.mit.edu Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Msg of Sat, 2 Dec 1995 01:01:16 -0500 (EST) from "John H. Kim" Subject: Report: Linux install on 701C Another reason I went with Red Hat is that their install scripts support upgrading - no more wondering what files are safe to delete if you install a new kernel or other software. I haven't had much chance to play with it yet, but it'll be worth it if this feature really works. Check out http://www.redhat.com if you're interested. Just FYI: The Debian distribution has this feature, and it definitely does work. I've been using it to upgrade packages as interesting new ones come out. Debian has the advantage of being free, but it does not support PCMCIA at installation, and it uses a text-mode interface rather than an X interface. One of these days there will be a distribution that does everything and costs nothing. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 2 17:31:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16417; Sat, 2 Dec 95 17:31:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23150; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 17:30:52 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 2 Dec 1995 17:28:27 -0500 Received: from panix2.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22967; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 17:28:25 -0500 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id RAA19367; Sat, 2 Dec 1995 17:28:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 17:28:11 -0500 (EST) From: Michael MacDonald To: sandy@sandy.com Cc: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: 760cd impressions In-Reply-To: <199512020739.HAA27411@shellx.best.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes, they only use a portion of the screen, but one can expand it to a full-screen (albeit slightly distorted) view by typing "ps2 hvexp on" at the dos prompt. Video is slowed down a bit in this mode (I tried playing "Hexen" in the expanded screen mode and was disappointed by the speed). Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu > Michael, I forgot to ask you in my previous email if DOS and DOS-related > applications use only a portion of the LCD screen on your 760CD like I > see with my 755CX? Thanks. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 3 02:22:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17976; Sun, 3 Dec 95 02:22:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22041; Sun, 3 Dec 1995 02:22:43 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 3 Dec 1995 02:20:10 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA21675; Sun, 3 Dec 1995 02:20:07 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id CAA03735; Sun, 3 Dec 1995 02:20:00 -0500 Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 02:19:57 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Chris Hanson Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Report: Linux install on 701C In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 2 Dec 1995, Chris Hanson wrote: > Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 01:01:16 -0500 (EST) > From: "John H. Kim" > > Another reason I went with Red Hat is that their install scripts > support upgrading - no more wondering what files are safe to delete > if you install a new kernel or other software. I haven't had much > > The Debian distribution has this feature, and it definitely does work. > I've been using it to upgrade packages as interesting new ones come > out. Debian has the advantage of being free, but it does not support > PCMCIA at installation, and it uses a text-mode interface rather than > an X interface. Do you have a URL (ftp and web) for the Debian distribution? The Red Hat distribution doesn't cost anything either unless you want direct email/phone support and/or a copy on CD-ROM. Their email mailing list is free too. I've played with it some more (well, reinstalled it :), and here's some more thoughts: The ftp install is unreliable. I don't know if this is because I only have 8MB, am using a PCMCIA ethernet card, or if it's a network problem. From my rather small sample of attempted installs, there's about a 50% chance the ftp install will fail. The basic and network series are pretty reliable, but the dosemu and X-Windows series almost always died. I ended up doing the following: Used the ftp install to get a minimal network-capable system running (one of these days I'll have to make a set of floppies that do this). Then I used this system to reformat the DOS partition as ext2, and ftp'd the entire Red Hat binary distribution (about 100MB) to it. I also ftp'd the images required for X installation to see if it'd work (it's only supposed to work with CD-ROM or NFS). ncftp 2.0 can ftp directory trees so I just did a 'get -R *' and watched TV for 20 minutes. Once the ftp finished, I reinstalled, this time specifying a hard drive install. Before the install started, I used a shell (conveniently provided) to mount the ftp'ed distribution in /mnt/cdrom -- the install expects the CD-ROM to be mounted there. It worked and I was able to start the X install. It's a neat install program, but with just 8MB and root system on ramdisk, it's very *very* slow. I aborted and restarted the text mode install, telling it to install everything. It took about 1h 45m. I suspect it'll go a lot faster if you have more RAM. Anyway, the X administrative tools (control-panel) are *very* nice. It has X programs for mounting disks, setting up the printer, adding users, modifying rc.d, etc. The install/remove/ update program is identical to the one used in the X install. It lists all the currently installed/not installed packages graphically (very Mac-like) and lets you add/inspect/delete them with a click of a button. It ran much faster without the ramdisk sitting in memory. The only downside was that the package descriptions weren't very good. Who cares. Now I can try each program and nuke it with a mouse click if I decide it's not worth keeping. :) All in all, I'd give it a thumbs up over Slackware just for the administrative tools. Be prepared for errors and a long wait if you have just 8MB though. The ftp install is pretty nifty for getting a base system up, but the hard drive or NFS install is probably the best way to go (if you want to pay you can buy a CD). (Someone at the lab asked me for help installing Linux, so I'm writing these primarily as notes to myself. I'm not trying to push Linux on the list. :) ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one jokim@mit.edu that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I have jokim@tuna.mit.edu found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 3 07:35:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19115; Sun, 3 Dec 95 07:35:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA15542; Sun, 3 Dec 1995 07:35:16 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 3 Dec 1995 07:31:57 -0500 Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA15191; Sun, 3 Dec 1995 07:31:51 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 3 Dec 95 07:14 EST From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: jokim@tuna.mit.edu Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Msg of Sun, 3 Dec 1995 02:19:57 -0500 (EST) from "John H. Kim" Subject: Report: Linux install on 701C Do you have a URL (ftp and web) for the Debian distribution? ftp://ftp.debian.org http://www.debian.org The Red Hat distribution doesn't cost anything either unless you want direct email/phone support and/or a copy on CD-ROM. Their email mailing list is free too. I see -- I hadn't realized this. I had scanned their release announcements and concluded that it was a commercial distribution. I guess I should have read it more closely. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 4 05:20:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09766; Mon, 4 Dec 95 05:20:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA04344; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 05:20:18 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 4 Dec 1995 05:11:04 -0500 Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA02195; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 05:10:58 -0500 Received: from smtp01.oce.nl by sun4nl.NL.net with SMTP id AA26308 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Mon, 4 Dec 1995 11:10:45 +0100 Received: by smtp01.oce.nl (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26966; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 11:10:51 +0100 >Received: from pc1-tvg.oce.nl by smtp02.oce.nl (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21133; Mon, 4 Dec 95 11:02:36 +0100 Message-Id: <9512041002.AA21133@smtp02.oce.nl> X-Sender: tvg@pophost X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 11:01:33 +0000 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: tvg@oce.nl (Tom van Geffen) Subject: mwave2.0 for the netherlands?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello everybody, A delurk from me: I have a TP755CD, 16 megs, 810 megs, using it mobile and on the company lan main job: email news, www and microsoft office, windows 95. My first remark: I am really glad to have a resource like this list, it helped me a lot in understanding my machine. Question: Does anybody know if the mwave 2.0 software has been "localized" for other countries. I live in the netherlands and also have the dutch "kit" to connect my machine to the telephone network. This means mwave 2.0 US version doesn=B4t work for me. Did anybody find a trick to get it working, or does= IBM have the software localized? Thanks for any help. Tom ________________________ This note does not necessarily represent the position of Oce- Nederland B.V. Therefore no liability or responsibility for what- ever will be accepted. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 4 11:01:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29997; Mon, 4 Dec 95 11:01:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01521; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 11:01:21 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 4 Dec 1995 10:57:52 -0500 Received: from doblegate.doble.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01171; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 10:57:40 -0500 From: Received: from ccMail by doblegate.doble.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 0c315dd0; Mon, 4 Dec 95 10:38:05 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 10:33:40 -0500 Message-Id: <0c315dd0@doblegate.doble.com> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re[2]: vendor for hard drives Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.818091485" This is a Mime message, which your current mail reader may not understand. Parts of the message will appear as text. To process the rest, you will have to use a Mime compatible mail reader. Contact your vendor for details. --IMA.Boundary.818091485 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Received: from [128.169.94.1] by doblegate.doble.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 0be5a280; Thu, 30 Nov 95 20:28:09 -0500 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02919; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 20:28:48 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 30 Nov 1995 20:28:33 -0500 Received: from speed3.speed.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA02897; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 20:28:30 -0500 From: Received: from kev.deltanet.net (ana1033.deltanet.com [199.171.191.33]) by speed3 .speed.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA27410 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 17:28:26 -0800 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 17:26:07 PST Subject: Re: vendor for hard drives To: tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Chameleon V0.05, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII --IMA.Boundary.818091485 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Hello, It is possible to run DOS and OS/2 without the disk software. Under OS/2 the bootable partition must be within the first 508 meg or so. Since the DOS cannot access HPFS partitions or above about 520meg I partitioned my drive as roughly 350 Meg Dos, then 150 Meg HPFS OS/2 System, and the rest as OS/2 HPFS data. The "DOS Box" under OS/2 can access the entire drive. DOS (which I seldom run) can access the first 350. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: vendor for hard drives Author: at Doble-Internet Date: 11/30/95 5:26 PM >Doing "transplant surgery" on the drives is pretty simple. In a nutshell: > >[SNIP] > >Simply pull the 44 pin connector off the old drive and plug the new drive >in. Pow, done. Hook it all back up and put it away. Don't forget that if you're using DOS, Windows 3.11, or OS/2 that you'll need to use a software package like EZ Drive or Disk Manager on drives that are larger than 528MB (1024 cylinders). Otherwise, FDISK will give you a shocking disk drive capacity measure ("14MB" on a 540MB drive, etc.), and won't allow you to partition the drive properly. Most new 2.5" drives are now above 540MB. For more info on EZ Drive, you can visit Micro-House's web pages at http://www.microhouse.com/, or see our pages at http://warrior.com/e zdrive. --------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Prince | Check out the Road Warrior Outpost kevin@warrior.com | at --> http://warrior.com <-- 714.418.1400 x101 | Solutions for the Mobile Professional --------------------------------------------------------- --IMA.Boundary.818091485-- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 4 16:15:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27833; Mon, 4 Dec 95 16:15:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20861; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 14:52:44 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 4 Dec 1995 14:48:59 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20424; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 14:48:38 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA18830 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 14:49:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 14:49:31 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: TP750 Subject: Megahertz XJACK 14.4 for sale Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've replaced my XJ1144 with a 28.8, and I'm happy enough with it to be confident about unloading the 14.4k, so I thought I'd offer it up here. It's got 1.5 years on it, which leaves 3.5 on the Megahertz warrantee service. I've got all the books and software (but not, I think, the box) which would go with it. The only thing differentiating it from the one you buy now is it's MNP5 instead of 10 and there's no flash bios. [I leave you to draw your own conclusions about the worth of a modem flash bios.] Anyways, the current model can apparently be had for $160 plus shipping. I'll entertain any worthwhile offer, but I had about $100 in mind, including shipping. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 4 19:10:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27471; Mon, 4 Dec 95 19:10:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11322; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 19:10:44 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 4 Dec 1995 19:07:22 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10919; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 19:07:20 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA00314; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 19:07:42 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 19:07:42 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: TP750 Subject: Re: Megahertz XJACK 14.4 for sale In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 4 Dec 1995, Don Whiteside wrote: > I've replaced my XJ1144 with a 28.8, and I'm happy enough with it to be > confident about unloading the 14.4k, so I thought I'd offer it up here. > > It's got 1.5 years on it, which leaves 3.5 on the Megahertz warrantee > service. I've got all the books and software (but not, I think, the box) > which would go with it. The only thing differentiating it from the one > you buy now is it's MNP5 instead of 10 and there's no flash bios. [I > leave you to draw your own conclusions about the worth of a modem flash > bios.] Not to show up Don, but if for some reason you want the flash BIOS and MNP10, I've got an XJ2144 for sale. 14.4, 4 years left on warranty, books, software, box, original receipt all included. Price, hmmm... How about $10 more than Don's, so $110 - I want to give him some room. :) And if you don't like the XJack, I've also got an AT&T Keep-in-Touch 14.4 fax/modem for sale. Flash BIOS, it's own cellular thing (not sure if it's MNP10 or what), 3.5 years left on warranty, books, software, box, original receipt. ~$75. Don't ask how I ended up with two modems (three now if you include the one in the TP701). ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one jokim@mit.edu that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I have jokim@tuna.mit.edu found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 4 23:40:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16976; Mon, 4 Dec 95 23:40:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00706; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 23:40:42 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 4 Dec 1995 23:38:38 -0500 Received: from luquillo.bellcore.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA00541; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 23:38:36 -0500 Received: (from jyri@localhost) by luquillo.bellcore.com (8.6.9/8.6.10) id XAA07603 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 23:38:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199512050438.XAA07603@luquillo.bellcore.com> Subject: Internal modem in 755CX To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 23:38:33 -0500 (EST) From: "Jyri J. Virkki" Reply-To: jyri@bellcore.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I was trying to get the modem working on a 755CX model, which has the built-in modem port. Under msdos it shows up as COM2. However, attempting to access /dev/cua1 fails. I first noticed setserial lists the UART as unknown, and later I noticed that in fact the machine was only recognizing cua0 during boot. How do I make Linux recognize this internal modem port? Thanks for any possible information! -- Jyri J. Virkki - 201-829-4213 - Linux: Choice of a GNU Generation From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 4 23:47:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17179; Mon, 4 Dec 95 23:47:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01370; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 23:47:20 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 4 Dec 1995 23:46:35 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01180; Mon, 4 Dec 1995 23:46:29 -0500 Received: by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp; id NAA20109; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 13:46:04 +0900 Received: from unknown(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (g3.0.3) id xma020097; Tue, 5 Dec 95 13:45:41 +0900 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id NAA13834; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 13:46:13 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id NAA28300; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 13:45:40 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id NAA08870; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 13:45:39 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Tue, 5 Dec 95 13:43:53 +0900 Message-Id: <9512050443.AA09021@shibuya.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: jyri@bellcore.com Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: "Jyri J. Virkki"'s message of Mon, 4 Dec 1995 23:38:33 -0500 (EST) <199512050438.XAA07603@luquillo.bellcore.com> Subject: Re: Internal modem in 755CX Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp |> only recognizing cua0 during boot. How do I make Linux recognize this |> [755CX] internal modem port? The internal modem is half software. Until that software is written for Linux, it is extremely doubtful that it will ever work under Linux. You'll be able to get the AT-command reply, but when you go to actually dial or something, the hardware part will time-out trying to connect to the (nonexistant) software part. A major bummer. Jeffrey ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey Friedl Omron Corp, Nagaokakyo, Kyoto 617 Japan See my Jap<->Eng dictionary at http://www.wg.omron.co.jp/cgi-bin/j-e and http://enterprise.ic.gc.ca/cgi-bin/j-e From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 5 01:08:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22333; Tue, 5 Dec 95 01:08:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA06984; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 01:08:26 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 5 Dec 1995 01:06:25 -0500 Received: from cocoa.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA06825; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 01:06:21 -0500 Received: (from news@localhost) by cocoa.brown.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA22366; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 01:06:04 -0500 To: brown-lists-tp750@cocoa.brown.edu Path: news From: Wai-Shan Lam Newsgroups: brown.lists.tp750 Subject: Re: two hard drives for thinkpad 755cx Date: Tue, 05 Dec 1995 01:05:19 -0500 Organization: Brown University Lines: 13 Message-Id: <30C3E11F.3689@Brown.edu> References: Nntp-Posting-Host: bootp-30w.andrews.brown.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b3 (Win95; I) To: Todd Tannenbaum Todd Tannenbaum wrote: > you can easily do this without any adapter in the new thinkpad 760. I am waiting for my 760CD, and has already received my second 1.2GB HDD. However, as far as I understand it, you need to use a Second HDD Adapter in order to put two HDD to work. From: ________________________ _______________________ Wai_Shan_Lam@Brown.Edu Brown University Box 3691 72124.2644@CompuServe.Com Providence RI 02912--3691 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 5 12:56:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11685; Tue, 5 Dec 95 12:56:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02597; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 12:56:31 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 5 Dec 1995 12:45:23 -0500 Received: from dorsai.dorsai.org by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01826; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 12:45:19 -0500 From: Received: by dorsai.dorsai.org (5.67b/23Dec93-Dorsai Embassy) id AA11057; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 12:44:20 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 12:44:20 -0500 (est) To: Dennis Park Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: RE: vendor for hard drives In-Reply-To: <199511300454.UAA33426@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 29 Nov 1995, Dennis Park wrote: > IBM Factory Outlet is selling the removeable 170mb Thinkpad HD for only $79. > The drives are small, but one could buy these drives for the shells and > replace the inner drives with higher capacity. > > Dennis > > Why would you want to? I'm curious because I've been looking for a cheaper way to upgrade my 340meg hd. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 5 15:10:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19870; Tue, 5 Dec 95 15:10:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13874; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 15:09:54 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 5 Dec 1995 15:07:56 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13714; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 15:07:46 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA13251; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 15:08:59 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 15:08:43 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: TP750 Cc: Robert Kondilas <0006076087@mcimail.com> Subject: RE: Can you help me out? (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII RK sent this to me and asked I forward it to the list, and I agreed. The quickcharger is for the 700&720 batteries, not the 750 model. Please do NOT reply to me, reply to Robert at the mcimail address. I am unconnected to this except as a messenger. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Robert Kondilas <0006076087@mcimail.com> Don - I wanted to ask you if you could do me a favor. I came across a few IBM ThinkPad PCMCIA modems and Quickchargers. I have the part numbers this time to avoid the fiasco that happened last time. Here is the information that I have: QTY IBM P/N Description Price --- ------- ------------------------------------ ----- 2 49G2170 IBM TP Battery Quickcharger $80/OBO 29 42G2581 IBM TP PCMCIA 2400DATA/9600FAX Modem $25/OBO If you could put these out in your TP newsgroup, I would be very appreciative. I know that the modems are not the fastest out there but for someone that needs a modem and does not want to spend $159.00 for a 14.4 or 9600 modem, it it a good buy. By the way, all of the items are still in the factory sealed cartons with the IBM tape on them. NONE of these products are USED. ----------End of Original Message---------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 5 18:27:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04300; Tue, 5 Dec 95 18:27:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01815; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 18:27:39 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 5 Dec 1995 18:24:09 -0500 Received: from UTKVM1.UTK.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA01431; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 18:24:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199512052324.SAA01431@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from UTKVM1.BITNET by UTKVM1.UTK.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0247; Tue, 05 Dec 95 18:23:40 LCL Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by UTKVM1.BITNET (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 4786; Tue, 05 Dec 95 18:23:40 LCL Received: from MITVMA (NJE origin DTURN@MITVMA) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9404; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 18:24:20 -0500 Date: Tue, 05 Dec 95 18:18:58 EST From: "David G. Turnquist" Subject: TP360 & $79 HD To: TP750@cs.utk.edu outlet, and I also picked up a spare 170MB HD. (The price couldn't be beat.) The proceedure for disecting and reassembling the drive case and for swapping the drive is identical to what was described for a 75x machine. The drives that the outlet has work just fine in my 360. Quick and easy. -Dave T dturn@mitvma.mit.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 5 21:32:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16784; Tue, 5 Dec 95 21:32:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14873; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 21:31:44 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 5 Dec 1995 21:29:18 -0500 Received: from earwax.pd.uwa.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14505; Tue, 5 Dec 1995 21:29:06 -0500 Received: from u48.dialup.uwa.edu.au (u48.dialup.uwa.edu.au [130.95.252.48]) by earwax.pd.uwa.edu.au (8.6.10/8.1) with SMTP id KAA23924; Tue, 6 Dec 1994 10:31:59 +0800 Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 10:31:59 +0800 Message-Id: <199412060231.KAA23924@earwax.pd.uwa.edu.au> X-Sender: jwinter@earwax.pd.uwa.edu.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: jwinter@earwax.pd.uwa.edu.au (John Winterflood) Subject: TP755CDV vs TP760 X-Mailer: Hi, I'm a newbie to this list so if I am asking a stupid question just suggest that I check back through the old correspondence or read a FAQ or something. I wanted to buy the TP755CDV so that I can do overhead projector presentations, but have held off so far in case IBM comes out with a 760 (larger screen, 800x600, faster CDRom) with the same capability. Does anyone know if there is any chance of this? Also it is not obvious from the spec sheets whether there is a significant difference between the MPEG video capabilities of the two models. The 755CDV is said to have "enhanced video card provides video acceleration, composite in/out, motion video capture and overlay ..." The 760 is worded similarly "hardware assisted software motion video acceleration for fluid full-screen playback of MPEG 1, MPEG 2 ..." So my questions are, does the 760 have some extra hardware acceleration or not. And if it does, does it only need it for expanding an MPEG picture to fill the 800x600 screen size (which the 755CDV doesn't have). Or in other words, is the 755CDV capable of "fluid full-screen playback of MPEG 1 and MPEG 2" on it's little 640x480 screen with the 75MHz pentium that it comes with. I would welcome any comments which help me to make up my mind whether to wait or go ahead and purchase. Thanks in Advance John Winterflood From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 6 03:15:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08754; Wed, 6 Dec 95 03:15:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA07943; Wed, 6 Dec 1995 03:15:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 6 Dec 1995 03:12:09 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper.nsc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA07676; Wed, 6 Dec 1995 03:12:06 -0500 Received: from nsc.nsc.com by gatekeeper.nsc.com (5.65/fma-120691) with SMTP; id AA03717 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 6 Dec 95 00:11:58 -0800 Received: from berlioz.nsc.com by nsc.nsc.com (5.65/1.34) with SMTP id AA25538 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 6 Dec 95 00:11:57 -0800 Received: from maradona.nsc.com by berlioz.nsc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24715; Wed, 6 Dec 95 00:07:24 PST From: wmng@berlioz.nsc.com (William Ng) Message-Id: <9512060807.AA24715@berlioz.nsc.com> Subject: adaptec SlimSCSI PCMCIA To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 6 Dec 95 0:07:26 PST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL0] Hi, I finally installed a NEC 3xp CDROM using a SlimSCSI adapter. However, after the installation, I could not access the CDROM after resuming from standby mode (i.e. Fn->F3). And after resuming from suspend mode, my 755cx crashes reporting some TRAP error. I am wondering if anyone experienced something like this before, and is there a solution. I believe I already got the latest AHA152X.ADD driver. Actually, I tried one from ftp.pcco.ibm.com and another one from adaptec's ftp site. I had problem with the drivers from both sites, however, the one from ftp.pcco.ibm.com is worse. Also, I had to have two config.sys in order to accomodate two configuration, one with the CDROM, one without, since the os2cdrom driver would not load if the CDROM is not connected at boot time. Is this sound reasonable? Thanks in advance. -William Ng From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 6 04:01:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10834; Wed, 6 Dec 95 04:01:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12309; Wed, 6 Dec 1995 04:00:56 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 6 Dec 1995 03:59:17 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA12016; Wed, 6 Dec 1995 03:59:14 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id AAA28721; Wed, 6 Dec 1995 00:59:09 -0800 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma028709; Wed Dec 6 00:59:05 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (annex-sj4-21.cadence.com [158.140.31.46]) by cds9258.cadence.com (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id AAA19683; Wed, 6 Dec 1995 00:58:58 -0800 Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 00:58:58 -0800 Message-Id: <199512060858.AAA19683@cds9258.cadence.com> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jwinter@earwax.pd.uwa.edu.au (John Winterflood) From: Ted Frederick Subject: Re: TP755CDV vs TP760 Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu John, You bring up some excellent questions... I know... I've asked them myself ;] I've got some inside contacts at IBM and (well, at least the story is consistent) there are no plans of delivering a 12.1" CV or CDV version of the 760 in the 'foreseeable future' due to a couple of issues: 1. There seems to be an engineering problem in getting the CV detachable back with the backlight design implemented in the 760 due to the small bezel surrounding the large LCD. 2. They've got a lot of 755's that they need to sell. (Osbourne, circle-slash) I've got a P75 755CDV and love it. I wouldn't hold out if I were you. One other tidbit... I would get a Logitech TrackMan Live and file the IR 'MindPath' that comes with the unit. The TracMan Live is RF and allows you to get out of the line of sight of the front or rear of the system and still maintain control of the presentation; can't do that with the MindPath! The Logitech unit will set you back another $135-150, but it's well worth it. (Hell, you just spent $6-8K on a 7.5 lb black box, what's another $150, eh?) Happy presenting... -Ted **************************** Ted Frederick Strategic Programs Manager DM Practice Development Voice: 408.894.2275 Fax: 408.894.3484 tedf@cadence.com **************************** From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 7 06:12:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07521; Thu, 7 Dec 95 06:12:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA21178; Thu, 7 Dec 1995 06:11:16 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 7 Dec 1995 06:02:13 -0500 Received: from bure.abc.se by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA20444; Thu, 7 Dec 1995 06:02:06 -0500 Received: from pm2-24.abc.se by bure.abc.se (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA27668; Thu, 7 Dec 1995 12:01:43 +0100 Received: by pm2-24.abc.se with Microsoft Mail id <01BAC49A.9DDB1BA0@pm2-24.abc.se>; Thu, 7 Dec 1995 11:53:25 +-100 Message-Id: <01BAC49A.9DDB1BA0@pm2-24.abc.se> From: Peter Samuelson To: "'Thinkpadlistan'" Subject: SV: mwave2.0 for the netherlands?? Date: Thu, 7 Dec 1995 11:52:27 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On the 29th of September I read this notice from a guy living in the = Netherlands. It seems that Mwave 2.0 works for him, so try this: >I promissed to follow up on the new MWave 2.0 installation in the=20 >Netherlands:=20 It works! >'Simply installed all disks, and yo! it was ready to be used. >I still use the extra command ATX3 before dailing (disable dial-tone=20 >detection). And I am able to get 28.8 kbs connections! (though not=20 >all the time, due to a limited number of 28.8 lines on our=20 >university's dial-in server). >Maarten van de Velde >FYI: Machine TP755CE / OS: Windows95 Regards, Peter Samuelson, Stockholm, SWEDEN ---------- Fr=E5n: Tom van Geffen[SMTP:tvg@oce.nl] Skickat: den 4 december 1995 12.01 Till: tp750@cs.utk.edu Ang=E5ende: mwave2.0 for the netherlands?? Hello everybody, A delurk from me: I have a TP755CD, 16 megs, 810 megs, using it mobile and on the company = lan main job: email news, www and microsoft office, windows 95. My first remark: I am really glad to have a resource like this list, it helped me a lot in understanding my machine. Question: Does anybody know if the mwave 2.0 software has been "localized" for = other countries. I live in the netherlands and also have the dutch "kit" to connect my machine to the telephone network. This means mwave 2.0 US = version doesn=B4t work for me. Did anybody find a trick to get it working, or = does IBM have the software localized? Thanks for any help. Tom ________________________ This note does not necessarily represent the position of Oce- Nederland B.V. Therefore no liability or responsibility for what- ever will be accepted. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 7 06:58:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10101; Thu, 7 Dec 95 06:58:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23534; Thu, 7 Dec 1995 06:58:11 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 7 Dec 1995 06:57:03 -0500 Received: from mailhost.tue.nl by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA23461; Thu, 7 Dec 1995 06:56:54 -0500 Received: from emepc27b.eme.ele.tue.nl [131.155.187.145] by mailhost.tue.nl (8.7.1) for id MAA05191 (SMTP). Thu, 7 Dec 1995 12:56:47 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <30C6D67F.392D@ele.tue.nl> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 1995 12:56:47 +0100 From: Maarten van de Velde Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b3 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: SV: mwave2.0 for the netherlands?? References: <01BAC49A.9DDB1BA0@pm2-24.abc.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Samuelson was a bit quicker than me in replying: his mail says it all, statements still hold. Posting meant as 'alive-&-ok-*-can-answer-questions' message. TTFN, _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/ Maarten _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ 'Adopt, adapt, and improve - M.Python' _/ _/ _/ Eindhoven University of Technology: http://www.er.ele.tue.nl/eme/www/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 7 17:31:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24658; Thu, 7 Dec 95 17:31:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22203; Thu, 7 Dec 1995 17:31:19 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 7 Dec 1995 17:27:04 -0500 Received: from happy.qualcomm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21751; Thu, 7 Dec 1995 17:26:54 -0500 Received: from gjacobs (gjacobs.qualcomm.com [129.46.122.39]) by happy.qualcomm.com (8.7.3/8.7.2/1.1) with SMTP id OAA13132 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 1995 14:26:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512072226.OAA13132@happy.qualcomm.com> X-Sender: gjacobs@129.46.50.61 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 07 Dec 1995 14:25:23 -0800 To: Thinkpad mailing list From: "Gary E. Jacobs" Subject: IBM Part Number for 360CE User's Guide needed IBM can't seem to figure it what it should be and the VP of our department would like one. Soooo could someone tell me what it is please. Thanks, Gary Jacobs gjacobs@qualcomm.com (619)658-4069 voice (619)658-2120 fax From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 8 03:40:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04224; Fri, 8 Dec 95 03:40:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA03736; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 03:40:34 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 8 Dec 1995 03:37:23 -0500 Received: from bure.abc.se by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA03353; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 03:37:19 -0500 Received: from pm1-15.abc.se by bure.abc.se (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA19467; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 09:37:04 +0100 Received: by pm1-15.abc.se with Microsoft Mail id <01BAC550.F371FFA0@pm1-15.abc.se>; Fri, 8 Dec 1995 09:38:37 +-100 Message-Id: <01BAC550.F371FFA0@pm1-15.abc.se> From: Peter Samuelson To: "'Thinkpadlistan'" Subject: Introduction Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 09:37:27 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone, I=B4m Peter Samuelson, living in Stockholm, Sweden. I been around this = list for about a year now but haven=B4t yet introduced myself. Well, = better late than ever. I work in the Swedish Coast Guard, mostly with = oill spills and pollutions from ships but also as responsible for our = network and computers. I=B4ve got a TP 755ce with a couple of harddrives. I=B4m using Win95 and = Windows 3.11 and tried Warp as well, but gave up due to problems between = Warp and my TP. My only real problem now is to get the SCSI in Dock I working with = Windows 3.11. IBM can=B4t supply any drivers for my NEC 3xe CD-ROM. As = far as I know there is a Future Domain card in Dock I so I would try to = load Future Domains PowerSCSI and see if that works. Peter From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 9 00:22:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08249; Sat, 9 Dec 95 00:22:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16065; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 00:22:14 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 9 Dec 1995 00:15:35 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15054; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 00:15:31 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA04699; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 00:15:40 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 00:15:40 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Michael MacDonald Cc: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: 760cd impressions In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Michael MacDonald wrote: > I'm most stunned by the MPEG capability. IBM includes a demo disk with > the 760cd that has a 60-second trailer from the movie "True Lies". The ^^^^^^^^^ > MPEG-2, 4 MB/S version is spectacular. It's almost as good as watching a ^^^^^^ > VHS copy of True Lies on the Thinkpad. Too bad it's only a minute long. > That single clip gobbles up 40 MB of CD-ROM space. There are two other ^^^^^ Is this 4Mbit/sec, or 4Mbyte/sec? Ethernet is 10 Mbit/sec theoretical max. It's successor is supposed to be 100 Mbit/sec. Something tells me that "virtual" video rentals are not far away... ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one jokim@mit.edu that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I have jokim@tuna.mit.edu found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 9 01:22:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12406; Sat, 9 Dec 95 01:22:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18894; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 01:20:52 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 9 Dec 1995 01:18:57 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18713; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 01:18:52 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id BAA05081; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 01:18:59 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 01:18:59 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP701 owners? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm taking a head count of TP701 owners on this list. If the number isn't too great, I can set up a tp701@tuna.mit.edu alias that could function as a mailing list. I don't see this as a permanent thing since I might be finishing school in 6 months, and I probably don't have time to maintain a real list. Of course if you 750/755/760 owners enjoy reading 701 banter we could all stay here. (tuna.mit.edu is my retired 750 mono which sits out of sight on my bookshelf, as an Internet server. :) ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one jokim@mit.edu that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I have jokim@tuna.mit.edu found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 9 09:46:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10015; Sat, 9 Dec 95 09:46:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27079; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 09:46:35 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 9 Dec 1995 09:41:40 -0500 Received: from abaco.coastalnet.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26695; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 09:41:37 -0500 Received: from pm-mhc2-9.coastalnet.com by abaco.coastalnet.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21748; Sat, 9 Dec 95 09:40:34 EST Date: Sat, 9 Dec 95 09:40:32 EST Message-Id: <9512091440.AA21748@abaco.coastalnet.com> X-Sender: cn2223@abaco.coastalnet.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Capt. Dick Collins" Subject: HELP dual boot Win/Warp Good News! tp760cd sckd to be delivered on 12-12-95 with OS2/Warp loaded. The preload inc PC Dos 7.0, Windows 3.1x, and OS2 Warp V3 + extras. Want to add to abv Windows 95. Thanks for sharing info on dividing up 1.2g hard drive, install & use. Dick. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 9 10:13:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11458; Sat, 9 Dec 95 10:13:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28558; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 10:13:14 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 9 Dec 1995 10:11:25 -0500 Received: from vmprofs.estec.esa.nl by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28485; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 10:11:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199512091511.KAA28485@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from ESTEC by vmprofs.estec.esa.nl (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1943; Sat, 09 Dec 95 16:10:44 CET Comments: Converted from PROFS to RFC822 format by PUMP V2.2X Date: Sat, 9 Dec 95 16:10:43 CET From: "Alberto Gianolio - PYS" To: Subject: line noise Hi I am using a TP750C with an IBM high speed modem. After I have dialed a number and got the connection, I keep hearing an annoying noise in the TP speaker coming, I guess, from line disturbs. Setting the modem volume to 0 from the terminal program does not seem to help (I have not tryed doing it on the modem register, but the result should be the same). Has anybody experienced the same and could help me how to solve it ? Thanks Alberto... End of Message __________________________________ Alberto Gianolio ESA/ESTEC - European Space Agency e-mail - agianoli@estec.esa.nl __________________________________ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 9 11:09:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14231; Sat, 9 Dec 95 11:09:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01862; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 11:08:59 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 9 Dec 1995 11:06:26 -0500 Received: from mail.Clark.Net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA01715; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 11:06:21 -0500 Received: from clark.net (brendan@clark.net [168.143.0.7]) by mail.Clark.Net (8.7.3/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA03715; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 11:06:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from brendan@localhost) by clark.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) id LAA14437; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 11:06:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 11:06:13 -0500 (EST) From: Brendan Hoar To: Alberto Gianolio - PYS Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: line noise In-Reply-To: <199512091511.KAA28485@CS.UTK.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Alberto Gianolio - PYS wrote: > I am using a TP750C with an IBM high speed modem. After I have dialed a > number and got the connection, I keep hearing an annoying noise in the > TP speaker coming, I guess, from line disturbs. Setting the modem volume > to 0 from the terminal program does not seem to help (I have not tryed doing > it on the modem register, but the result should be the same). Thinkpad 360Cs. IBM High Speed Modem. ATM0. Same click pop noise. You're not alone, brother. :) I usually end up hitting Fn-F5 to turn the speaker totally off. OF course, then I always wonder why my Lotus Notes "new mail" sounds never happen. Can't win. -b! brendan@clark.net (703) 276-9768 -- Positive Force D.C./Torque Rec'ds/WDIY ->Lookin for DC area punk/DIY shows, radical events or protests? Email me!<- http://www.clark.net/pub/brendan = updated -- [KD4YJS] -- "You've got to pay for all your lies, and thats what America refuses to learn." - Phil Ochs From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 9 13:04:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20708; Sat, 9 Dec 95 13:04:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08291; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 13:04:45 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 9 Dec 1995 13:01:30 -0500 Received: from hercules.phri.nyu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08143; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 13:01:27 -0500 Received: by hercules.phri.nyu.edu (5.0/1.20) id AA24117; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 13:01:20 +0500 From: ilya@phri.nyu.edu (Ilya Mafter) Message-Id: <9512091801.AA24117@hercules.phri.nyu.edu> Subject: 14.4 modem upgrade; Followfax service To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 13:01:19 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Hello, I use a 755CE, 16MB RAM. I'd like to upgrade to V.34 Mwave; downloaded the four required files from their ftp site, and then called IBM, just in case. They told me I must upgrade BIOS using sytpe140.exe file from same site, for the Mwave upgrade to work. Is this correct? My second question concerns the FollowFax package preinstalled on this machine. Any reviews of this service? Any recommendations on a fax mailbox service provider in general? I need to be able to receive and retrieve faxes internationally. Thanks a lot for your help. Ilya Mafter ilya@phri.nyu.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 10 02:40:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21933; Sun, 10 Dec 95 02:40:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA26464; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 02:40:23 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 10 Dec 1995 02:34:01 -0500 Received: from netcom6.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA26072; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 02:33:58 -0500 Received: by netcom6.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id SAA15587; Sat, 9 Dec 1995 18:07:03 -0800 Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 18:07:03 -0800 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199512100207.SAA15587@netcom6.netcom.com> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: hello again I rejoined the list last night after getting a used 755cx about a week ago (with no installation disks and no manuals). It has had all the original software removed and Windoze 95 (the AOL of operating systems) installed. I've ordered some manuals from IBM and plan to install Linux as soon as I can figure out how to do this via PCMCIA CD-rom or some other method (maybe NFS from my desktop machine, as soon as I get *that* back in operation). Meanwhile I'm amazed to see no traffic on this list since yesterday--- I had dropped off a month or two ago because there was so much noise on it. I hate to disturb its stillness this way, but hello again everyone. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 10 11:34:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15240; Sun, 10 Dec 95 11:34:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00878; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 11:34:20 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 10 Dec 1995 11:30:52 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00601; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 11:30:50 -0500 Received: from [128.125.223.79] (comserv-f-07.usc.edu [128.125.223.79]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with SMTP id IAA17814; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 08:30:42 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 08:39:11 -0800 To: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin), tp750@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: hello again At 6:07 PM 12/9/95, Paul Rubin wrote: >I rejoined the list last night after getting a used 755cx about a week >ago (with no installation disks and no manuals). It has had all the Just out of curiosity--what are the specs (RAM, HD, etc.) and what did you pay for this used machine? ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Home Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 10 18:07:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07323; Sun, 10 Dec 95 18:07:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23579; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 18:07:08 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 10 Dec 1995 18:03:52 -0500 Received: from inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23266; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 18:03:49 -0500 Received: from inc.net by inc.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06876; Sun, 10 Dec 95 17:03:33 CST Date: Sun, 10 Dec 95 17:03:31 CST Message-Id: <9512102303.AA06876@inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Joseph C. Wilson" Subject: Need Sys Admin. Address I need to change my address and have misplaced the address for such requests. Can somebody please send it to me? Thanks, Joe Wilson From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 10 19:04:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09781; Sun, 10 Dec 95 19:04:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26788; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 19:04:04 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 10 Dec 1995 19:03:07 -0500 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26703; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 19:03:05 -0500 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by Eisner.DECUS.Org (PMDF V4.2-12 #4291) id <01HYNIMTPLZ40003UO@Eisner.DECUS.Org>; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 19:02:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 19:02:52 -0500 (EST) From: billy@mix.com Subject: Re: 14.4 modem upgrade; Followfax service In-Reply-To: <9512091801.AA24117@hercules.phri.nyu.edu> Sender: YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <818640172.721179.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Mail-System-Version: > I use a 755CE, 16MB RAM. I'd like to upgrade to V.34 Mwave; downloaded > the four required files from their ftp site, and then called IBM, just in > case. They told me I must upgrade BIOS using sytpe140.exe file from same > site, for the Mwave upgrade to work. Is this correct? Mine only has 8MB, but I got it early this year and haven't touched the BIOS (don't know which version it is but it's an old one for sure) and the V.34 MWave software works fine for me. In fact, I'd call it better than average - it almost always connects at 28.8, long command strings are no problem at all, etc. Billy Y.. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 10 21:06:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AB16607; Sun, 10 Dec 95 21:06:37 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04803; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 21:06:32 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 10 Dec 1995 21:04:23 -0500 Received: from ripspost.aist.go.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04586; Sun, 10 Dec 1995 21:04:11 -0500 Received: from bhpom.nibh.go.jp by ripspost.aist.go.jp (8.6.9+2.4W/TISN-1.3/R2-AIST) id LAA05463; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:03:57 +0900 Received: by bhpom.nibh.go.jp (8.6.12+2.5Wb7/6.4J.6-nibh.MASTER) id LAA15435; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:06:37 +0900 Received: by human.nibh.go.jp (8.6.12+2.5Wb7/6.4J.6-ipri92sep) id LAA22359; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:03:56 +0900 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:03:56 +0900 Message-Id: <199512110203.LAA22359@human.nibh.go.jp> X-Sender: b0018@150.29.56.34 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Akira TERAO Subject: Re: hello again At 18:07 95/12/09 -0800, phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) wrote: > >I rejoined the list last night after getting a used 755cx about a week >ago (with no installation disks and no manuals). It has had all the >original software removed and Windoze 95 (the AOL of operating >systems) installed. I've ordered some manuals from IBM and plan to >install Linux as soon as I can figure out how to do this via PCMCIA >CD-rom or some other method (maybe NFS from my desktop machine, as >soon as I get *that* back in operation). FYI: I just installed Windows 95 on my 750M (*) from a CD-ROM hooked to a New Media Bus Toaster PCMCIA SCSI card. No major problem to report. Of course, it is slow, but usable. Even with 12MB of RAM, it swaps a lot. MS-Office will probably be harder. I already have installed Linux several times though the same PCMCIA SCSI card. I have a boot disk with a special kernel integrating support for the Bus Toaster. Linux is much lighter than Win95. It does not have to swap, even with X-Windows on. (*) Yes, it is one of the first TPs that were shipped in France (where I was at that time). I spent a huge amount of time and effort trying to install Linux, until the 2.88 drive problem was solved :-( Cheers, Akira =============================================================================== National Institute of Bioscience and Human-Technology ... jeunesse... Nervous Informatics Laboratory ... la ... 1-1 Higashi, Tsukuba ... forment ... Tel: +81-298-54.6630 Ibaraki 305 ... voyages ... Fax: +81-298-54.6633 Japan ... Les ... eMail: Terao@NIBH.go.jp =============================================================================== From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 11 01:15:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00054; Mon, 11 Dec 95 01:15:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20274; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 01:14:17 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 11 Dec 1995 01:12:50 -0500 Received: from panix2.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20099; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 01:12:29 -0500 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id BAA05652; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 01:11:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 01:11:57 -0500 (EST) From: Michael MacDonald To: sunderam@cs.utk.edu Cc: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: 760cd mpeg demo In-Reply-To: <199512101428.JAA16666@thud.cs.utk.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Actually, I can't view it through the demo app either (also a blank screen). I can only display it via Media Player. Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu On Sun, 10 Dec 1995 sunderam@cs.utk.edu wrote: > Did you say you had to change some setting in order to get the > mped "true lies" demo to work? I just get an empty screen > with audio in the background. Any suggestions woul dbe appreciated. > > Thanks > > Vaidy Sunderam > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 11 01:23:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00095; Mon, 11 Dec 95 01:23:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20760; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 01:22:21 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 11 Dec 1995 01:21:34 -0500 Received: from panix2.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA20701; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 01:21:32 -0500 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id BAA06146; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 01:21:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 01:21:09 -0500 (EST) From: Michael MacDonald To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: 760cd sent back to IBM for repairs :-( Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The MWave modem in my 760cd is completely dead. It worked like a charm for two weeks, then I made the mistake of dialing my ISP using "pulse", rather than "tone". Of course this should work, but it caused the modem to die. Now all I hear is static when I attempt to dial -- sort of like the sound of an AM radio not tuned to a station. In the far distance I can hear a dial tone, but it's not loud enough for the modem to grab onto, thus I receive "no dialtone" messages. I called IBM and they walked me through possible solutions, but nothing worked, so back it goes for repairs. I'm sending to Easy Serve in Memphis. The tech rep said I should get the Thinkpad back in 3 days. Is this a realistic estimate, or typical IBM propaganda? Other than my MWave modem woes, the 760cd is an absolute dream. (All the other MWave functions work, incidentally). Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 11 02:08:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00629; Mon, 11 Dec 95 02:08:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22766; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 02:07:18 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 11 Dec 1995 02:05:33 -0500 Received: from news1.radix.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22453; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 02:05:31 -0500 Received: from dialin10.annex1.radix.net (dialin10.annex1.radix.net [204.157.128.20]) by news1.radix.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA25834 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 02:03:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199512110703.CAA25834@news1.radix.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "kevin king" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 02:00:42 -0500 Subject: Re: 760cd sent back to IBM for repairs :-( Reply-To: xanadu@radix.net Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.20) > The tech rep said I should get the Thinkpad back in 3 days. Is this a > realistic estimate, or typical IBM propaganda? IBM hardware service for my tp755 has been exceptional. The screen went bad after a couple of weeks, I sent it in and got it back in three days. When my AC adapter cord shorted out, they sent me a new one right away. No complaints here. (If only OS/2 were as worthwhile an investment...) kevin From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 11 11:07:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10747; Mon, 11 Dec 95 11:07:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05566; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:03:55 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 11 Dec 1995 10:56:24 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04756; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 10:56:17 -0500 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa14259; 11 Dec 95 10:55 EST Received: by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (5.x/SMI-SVR4 (plus cnri and barry's mods)) id AA28870; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 10:55:38 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 10:55:37 -0500 (EST) From: Ken Manheimer Reply-To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US To: "John H. Kim" Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP701 owners? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm one of the 701 owners, as you know. I'm not sure what i prefer about having our own 701-specific list, though i'm leaning toward preferring it. The main problem with staying on tp750 is what seems to be objections from people about non-75x-model postings. I don't think there are a lot of objections, but there have been a few explicit ones. (Though most of the objecting people may have resigned the list by now!-) Things get more difficult when the topic is linux-on-the-701, which is of primary interest to me. All this contributes to wanting a separate list. There are a few things balanced against that. One is that i like hearing about experiences with the other thinkpad models (particularly with linux), and think there is substantial crossover relevance, since the different models have some fundamental similarities. Another problem with the separate list is the impermanence of the one you'd be establishing - it would probably not be worth it to form a new list if it would have to dissolve after six months. However, i expect we could find a new home for it, at that point, if it catches on. So i'm not sure what to suggest, though i would certainly (and happily) subscribe, if such a list were created. (I initially intended to send this response only to you, john, but came to think that this discussion is of relevance to the tp750 list, particularly the question about what should and should not be included. I'd be real happy to get a definitive answer (or be reminded of the definitive answer, if i missed it when it went by, before now).) And thanks for offering to take on the responsibility! ken manheimer klm@cnri.reston.va.us (703) 620-8990 x259 Corporation for National Research Initiatives 1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 100 Reston, VA 22091 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 11 11:49:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13486; Mon, 11 Dec 95 11:49:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09869; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:46:10 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:43:11 -0500 Received: from cs.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09369; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:42:54 -0500 Received: from jones.cs.brown.edu (jones.cs.brown.edu [128.148.38.144]) by cs.brown.edu (8.7.1/Bullwinkle1.1) with ESMTP id LAA06527; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:42:07 -0500 (EST) From: Sridhar Ramaswamy Received: (sr@localhost) by jones.cs.brown.edu (8.7.1/BrownCS1.0) id LAA22398; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:42:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 11:42:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199512111642.LAA22398@jones.cs.brown.edu> To: hurley@mama-bear.lcs.mit.edu, kensey@wired.com Subject: Re: pcmcia modems and audio Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu This is a belated reply, but I have had no problems using a pcmcia modem and getting the DSP chip to run soundblaster emulations under linux. It took me a while to get the kinks out, but it definitely is possible. I boot to dos, run "mwgames on" to turn on soundblaster emulation, and then boot linux using loadlin. --Sridhar From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 11 14:28:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26573; Mon, 11 Dec 95 14:28:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22954; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 14:24:57 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 11 Dec 1995 14:23:01 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22779; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 14:22:53 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA09856; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 14:24:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 14:23:48 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP701 owners? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm perfectly content to have the 701 traffic on the list. So much crosses over that it's not a hassle for me to delete 100% specific 701 messages. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 11 17:09:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14494; Mon, 11 Dec 95 17:09:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26600; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 15:10:27 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 11 Dec 1995 15:08:49 -0500 Received: from fw1.cummins.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26442; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 15:08:39 -0500 Received: by fw1.cummins.com; id PAA24558; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 15:00:28 -0500 Received: from unknown(160.95.120.3) by fw1.cummins.com via smap (g3.0.1) id xma024551; Mon, 11 Dec 95 15:00:23 -0500 Received: by gatekeeper.cummins.com (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA20713; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 15:07:46 -0500 Message-Id: <9512112007.AA20713@gatekeeper.cummins.com> Received: from borg.cel.cummins.com by bubba.cel.cummins.com with SMTP (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4.1-Domain/OS) id AA05696; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 14:48:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 14:48:46 -0500 From: "Julie A. Strietelmeier" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: 701 owners? I have a 701 ThinkPad. ______________________________________________________________________________ Julie Strietelmeier The Fret Board BBS julie@cel.cummins.com (812)342-6564 Columbus, IN A Guitar / Music BBS ______________________________________________________________________________ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 11 21:21:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07516; Mon, 11 Dec 95 21:21:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05598; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 21:20:05 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 11 Dec 1995 21:17:50 -0500 Received: from Fe3.rust.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05434; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 21:17:43 -0500 Received: from liv-14.rust.net by Fe3.rust.net via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id VAA19735; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 21:18:06 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 21:18:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199512120218.VAA19735@Fe3.rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Bios Rev. I have a Thinkpad 701c. How do you read out the Bios revision level? A post I read from another news group talks about a flash rom revision dated 12/5/95 that fixes a few minor problems. For those that would like to read the documentation here it is: ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/mobiles/sys7013n.doc This document list all the revisions up to the present. B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan - billb@rust.net - http://www.rust.net/~billb - N8QPI Livonia, MI - " V e r y G o o d R o b i n " - Howard Stern =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 11 22:57:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13100; Mon, 11 Dec 95 22:57:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12561; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 22:56:28 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 11 Dec 1995 22:54:58 -0500 Received: from CNRI.Reston.VA.US by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12361; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 22:54:56 -0500 Received: from glyph.cnri.reston.va.us by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa18720; 11 Dec 95 22:48 EST Received: by glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US (5.x/SMI-SVR4 (plus cnri and barry's mods)) id AA29873; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 22:48:48 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 22:48:48 -0500 From: Ken Manheimer Message-Id: <9512120348.AA29873@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> To: ThinkPad Mailing List Subject: Thinkpad IR port as serial port under unix? Reply-To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US X-Mailer: VM 5.95 (beta) / Emacs 19.13 XEmacs Lucid Organization: Corporation for National Research Initiatives Has anyone set up linux on a thinkpad (mine is a 701) to use the infrared port? I'd like to get talking with my sharp wizard organizer - i already have a c program from the net to talk the protocol, got it working on sun workstations using a pclink serial cable, but don't know how to get linux talking nicely via the IR as a serial port (though i gather that it would be cua1, with the internal modem at cua0). Any hints? ken manheimer klm@cnri.reston.va.us (703) 620-8990 x259 Corporation for National Research Initiatives 1895 Preston White Drive, Suite 100 Reston, VA 22091 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 11 23:13:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14183; Mon, 11 Dec 95 23:13:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13808; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 23:12:38 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 11 Dec 1995 23:11:55 -0500 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13678; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 23:11:52 -0500 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by Eisner.DECUS.Org (PMDF V4.2-12 #4291) id <01HYP5LSFLQ8000AJG@Eisner.DECUS.Org>; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 23:11:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 23:11:47 -0500 (EST) From: billy@mix.com Subject: Re: 760cd sent back to IBM for repairs :-( In-Reply-To: Sender: YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <818741507.298179.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Mail-System-Version: > The tech rep said I should get the Thinkpad back in 3 days. Is this a > realistic estimate, or typical IBM propaganda? I've only used it once, but yes it only took three days, plus one more to get the shipping carton from IBM. Thinkpads cost a little more but this kind of service makes it more than worth it. You can pull the battery and disks when sending it in for this kind of problem (that doesn't involve them) which reduces the weight and thus the chance of any shock-induced damage, not to mention making sure they don't get lost. Billy Y.. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 11 23:13:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14188; Mon, 11 Dec 95 23:13:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13810; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 23:12:38 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 11 Dec 1995 23:12:06 -0500 Received: from POWERED.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13713; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 23:12:03 -0500 Received: from FROG.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU by POWERED.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU (8.7/res.host.cf-3.5) with ESMTP id XAA43064; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 23:11:59 -0500 Received: by FROG.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU (Sendmail-8.7/res.client.cf-4.0) id XAA31316; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 23:11:57 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 23:11:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Rev. Ben" To: Bill Bryan Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Bios Rev. In-Reply-To: <199512120218.VAA19735@Fe3.rust.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, Bill Bryan wrote: > I have a Thinkpad 701c. How do you read out the Bios revision level? A Its easy. Hit Fn-F1 to go to the setup and hit PgUp once or twice. There's an option on the top half of the screen that says the BIOS revision date and the diagnostic date. Ben. Just flashed my machine a few hours ago. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 11 23:55:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16411; Mon, 11 Dec 95 23:55:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16472; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 23:52:51 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 11 Dec 1995 23:51:48 -0500 Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16391; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 23:51:33 -0500 Received: (from alster@localhost) by alster.port.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA03502; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 23:50:41 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 23:50:40 -0500 (EST) From: retsla X-Sender: alster@alster.port.net To: Sridhar Ramaswamy Cc: hurley@mama-bear.lcs.mit.edu, kensey@wired.com, TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: pcmcia modems and audio In-Reply-To: <199512111642.LAA22398@jones.cs.brown.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, Sridhar Ramaswamy wrote: > This is a belated reply, but I have had no problems > using a pcmcia modem and getting the DSP chip to > run soundblaster emulations under linux. It took > me a while to get the kinks out, but it definitely > is possible. > > I boot to dos, run "mwgames on" to turn on > soundblaster emulation, and then boot linux > using loadlin. No way!! Please don't say you're kidding! :) http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 12 00:16:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17261; Tue, 12 Dec 95 00:16:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18451; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 00:14:51 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 12 Dec 1995 00:13:10 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18332; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 00:13:08 -0500 Received: from phakt.usc.edu (phakt.usc.edu [128.125.253.144]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id VAA11896 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 21:13:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (sterni@localhost) by phakt.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id VAA09721; Mon, 11 Dec 1995 21:13:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 21:13:03 -0800 (PST) From: John William Sterni To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Floppy drive and DOCK I Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I was wondering if anyone has used the floppy port on the DOCK I for the ThinkPad 75X. Does anyone know if IBM uses a standard floppy interface in the TP's.... Basically what i want to do is hook up a tape backup thru the Docking Station's floppy connection on the back. I got the tape drive for free, but it is the kind that connects to an empty floopy connector. If anyone has done any kind of "okie rigging" to the Dock I, i'd like to talk to you. :) thanks P.S. Merry Christmas and a "floopy" New Year.. [g] john used to be (ggomez@vms1.cc.uop.edu) ----------------------------- ---------- First-Year Transfer-Trogan !! Fight on ! ----------------------------- ---------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 12 03:17:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27772; Tue, 12 Dec 95 03:17:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA29112; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 03:15:10 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 12 Dec 1995 03:12:15 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA28862; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 03:12:03 -0500 Received: by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp; id RAA16051; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 17:02:20 +0900 Received: from unknown(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (g3.0.3) id xma016035; Tue, 12 Dec 95 17:02:02 +0900 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id RAA13198; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 17:02:35 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id RAA11078; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 17:02:01 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id RAA15940; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 17:01:59 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Tue, 12 Dec 95 17:01:57 +0900 Message-Id: <9512120801.AA12046@fiat500.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: billy@mix.com Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <818741507.298179.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> (billy@mix.com) Subject: Re: 760cd sent back to IBM for repairs :-( Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp |> > The tech rep said I should get the Thinkpad back in 3 days. Is this a |> > realistic estimate, or typical IBM propaganda? |> |> I've only used it once, but yes it only took three days, plus one |> more to get the shipping carton from IBM. Thinkpads cost a little |> more but this kind of service makes it more than worth it. If you're in a rush, you can use the 9 "express service". If really, really in a rush, you can even ship right away in your own box. I shipped my 755cx from southern CA to Memphis to have the LCD replaced, and got it back *THE SAME DAY*. I'm not joking. It's been several months and they haven't even charged me for the 9, which I gave concent for in the first place. Jeffrey From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 12 08:20:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16651; Tue, 12 Dec 95 08:20:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22947; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 08:15:17 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 12 Dec 1995 08:12:22 -0500 Received: from helu07.ktt.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22571; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 08:12:19 -0500 Received: from abbjaoj by helu07.ktt.fi (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA10714 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 15:12:03 GMT Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 15:12:03 GMT Message-Id: <199512121512.PAA10714@helu07.ktt.fi> X-Sender: abbjaoj@fiabb.abb.fi X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Jari.Oja@fiabb.abb.fi (Jari Oja) Subject: Unix on TP760 Have anybody Unix installed on TP760, possibly FreeBSD with X-windows ? We are trying to do it, but are having big troubles. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 12 08:30:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16925; Tue, 12 Dec 95 08:30:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA23870; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 08:29:06 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 12 Dec 1995 08:28:13 -0500 Received: from mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA23802; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 08:28:05 -0500 Received: by mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU (8.6.11/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA09826; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 08:28:03 -0500 Received: (from pcolsen@localhost) by n2ell.columbia.md.us (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA05443; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 08:15:16 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 08:15:16 -0500 From: "Peter C. Olsen" Message-Id: <199512121315.IAA05443@n2ell.columbia.md.us> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Need Help Installing Linux on the TP750Cs Reply-To: pcolsen@acm.org Cc: pcolsen@super.org I'm looking for help installing Linux on a TP750Cs. I've been trying for about three months. I'm having a terrible time and absolutely no success. I first tried to use the Slackware 2.3 disks right out of the box --- setting the "floppy=thinkpad" parameter along the way. I would then be able to bring up the "setup" program and begin installing disks. But the installations were never successful; sometimes "setup" itself would hang, other times I would load all my disks (60?) only to have the machine hang soon after I tried to run some application. (The most common error seems to have been some sort of swapper failure, although there have been others.) I've done this about two dozen times, with all the permutations I can think of. Then, two weeks ago, I discovered the "tp-bare" boot disk on the net. Unfortunately, I can't get this to work, either. I'm a literate Unix user and I've installed Linux on several other computers, but I seem to be missing something critical here. I suspect (hope?) it's due to the 2.88Mb floppy (I can never get the boot display to say anything other than "1.44", no matter what bootdisk I use.) The machine used to run OS/2 quite well (until I repartitioned the disk), so I suspect it's my fault, not the hardware's. Please feel free to flame me with "RTFM" --- just as long as you tell me where to find TFM and what sections I should R. Thanks for your time. Peter From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 12 09:04:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18778; Tue, 12 Dec 95 09:04:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26710; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 09:04:18 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 12 Dec 1995 09:03:07 -0500 Received: from is.nyu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26598; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 09:03:04 -0500 Received: from KLENNER.NR.RES.NYU.EDU by is.nyu.edu; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/23Sep94-1121PM) id AA06058; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 09:03:00 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2b8.32.19951212140300.0068e078@is.nyu.edu> X-Sender: mdk1143@is.nyu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2b8 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 09:03:00 -0500 To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Klenner Subject: ThinkPad Repair Part of the reason why IBM is able to guarantee such amazing turn-around times is that their repair facilities are in two hangars which are immediately adjacent to the primary Federal Express depot at the airport in Memphis, TN. it is a fact that when your units go for repair, theu literally never leave the airport on the other end. It makes things quite efficient. -Mike PS: For those of you who are unaware, EVERY FedEx package used to go through that Memphis depot. FedEx found it more efficient even if a package originated in L.A. and was destined for San Francisco. Eventually things got really big, and it made sense for them to build local routing depots, but for a long time there waas just the one in Memphis. --- Michael Klenner mdk1143@is.nyu.edu mklenner@pacificnet.net http://pages.nyu.edu/~mdk1143 --- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 12 09:09:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19106; Tue, 12 Dec 95 09:09:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27190; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 09:09:07 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 12 Dec 1995 09:08:27 -0500 Received: from central.picker.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27128; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 09:08:25 -0500 Received: from mr.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0tPV8c-0004vuC; Tue, 12 Dec 95 08:52 EST Received: from alpha14 by mr.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-a) id AA19505; Tue, 12 Dec 95 08:52:39 EST From: djr@mr.picker.com (Don Russell) Received: by alpha14; (5.65/1.1.8.2/15May95-0912AM) id AA07612; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 08:51:41 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 08:51:41 -0500 Message-Id: <9512121351.AA07612@alpha14> To: Jari.Oja@fiabb.abb.fi Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199512121512.PAA10714@helu07.ktt.fi> (Jari.Oja@fiabb.abb.fi) Subject: Re: Unix on TP760 Could you provide more detail on your troubles? I will be trying to bring up Linux and X on a 760 in a few days and would appreciate any info I can get before the machine arrives. -- +------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Don Russell | Internet: djr@mr.picker.com | | Picker International | Voice: (216)-473-5726 | | 5500 Avion Park Drive | Fax: (216) 473-5728 | | Highland Heights, Ohio 44143 | | +------------------------------+-------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 12 09:18:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19350; Tue, 12 Dec 95 09:18:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28039; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 09:17:45 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 12 Dec 1995 09:16:30 -0500 Received: from central.picker.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27940; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 09:16:27 -0500 Received: from mr.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0tPVEh-0004sSC; Tue, 12 Dec 95 08:59 EST Received: from alpha14 by mr.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-a) id AA19672; Tue, 12 Dec 95 08:59:04 EST From: djr@mr.picker.com (Don Russell) Received: by alpha14; (5.65/1.1.8.2/15May95-0912AM) id AA07679; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 08:59:03 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 08:59:03 -0500 Message-Id: <9512121359.AA07679@alpha14> To: pcolsen@acm.org Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu, pcolsen@super.org In-Reply-To: <199512121315.IAA05443@n2ell.columbia.md.us> (pcolsen@n2ell.columbia.md.us) Subject: Re: Need Help Installing Linux on the TP750Cs Do you know about the linux laptop home page ? http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop This is the thinkpad specific link from that http://peipa.essex.ac.uk/tp-linux/tp-linux.html -- +------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Don Russell | Internet: djr@mr.picker.com | | Picker International | Voice: (216)-473-5726 | | 5500 Avion Park Drive | Fax: (216) 473-5728 | | Highland Heights, Ohio 44143 | | +------------------------------+-------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 12 14:06:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11651; Tue, 12 Dec 95 14:06:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22652; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 14:03:12 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 12 Dec 1995 13:57:42 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22187; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 13:57:39 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA09469; Tue, 12 Dec 95 10:57:33 -0800 Received: by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA00523; Tue, 12 Dec 95 10:56:17 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 10:56:16 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: How to rebuild stripped system (755cx)? Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I know this question has been asked before, but I've never really seen an answer. If I were to wipe the entire system, how would I go about restoring all the ThinkPad stuff? At the moment, I'd like to wipe everything, then just restore Win3.1, then run the upgrade to Win95. I've got a 540 meg drive, and only about 100megs free, and I can't dig out what other stuff I can delete. Which disks on IBM's ftp site are for the 755cx? The listing is very unclear. I can guess some of them, but not all of them. How do I determine which BIOS I have? I see there's a new 1.40 disk, but when I go into easy setup, I get two different numbers. Did IBM average them to get the single number they use on their disk numbering? Also, has anyone gotten hold of that MWave for Win95 yet? If so, could someone send me that disk? IBM still hasn't put it on their ftp site. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 12 14:07:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11657; Tue, 12 Dec 95 14:07:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22648; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 14:03:12 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 12 Dec 1995 13:59:35 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA22336; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 13:59:32 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA09496; Tue, 12 Dec 95 10:59:33 -0800 Received: by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA00543; Tue, 12 Dec 95 10:58:21 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 10:58:20 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: 755cx hangs when cold Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Has anyone else had the problem of their 755cx hanging when cold started from a temperature around 65 degrees? I sent the computer in to IBM for repair twice already, they couldn't reproduce the problem, but the second time the tech replaced my system board anyway. I got it back, and it still hangs if I cold start it from around 65 degrees. If I let it warm up a bit, then reset it, it works fine. I'm wondering if this is a design flaw. --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 12 14:44:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14925; Tue, 12 Dec 95 14:44:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26833; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 14:41:25 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 12 Dec 1995 14:39:56 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26629; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 14:39:54 -0500 Received: from alcor.usc.edu (whittle@alcor.usc.edu [128.125.253.169]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA29763; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 11:39:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (whittle@localhost) by alcor.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.7+ucs) id LAA21428; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 11:39:47 -0800 (PST) From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199512121939.LAA21428@alcor.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Thinkpad IR port To: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 11:39:46 -0800 (PST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu (TP) In-Reply-To: <9512120348.AA29873@glyph.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> from "Ken Manheimer" at Dec 11, 95 10:48:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Has anyone set up linux on a thinkpad (mine is a 701) to use the > infrared port? I'd like to get talking with my sharp wizard organizer Heck, I'd like to simply get the IR port to work with my HP 100LX through Windows (specifically Win '95). I don't know if the two will even talk to each other at all (but supposedly they do). ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 12 14:49:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15159; Tue, 12 Dec 95 14:49:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27361; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 14:46:13 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 12 Dec 1995 14:44:44 -0500 Received: from POWERED.ZOO3.CS.YALE.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26997; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 14:44:39 -0500 Received: from FROG.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU by POWERED.ZOO3.CS.YALE.EDU (8.7/res.host.cf-3.5) with ESMTP id OAA43614; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 14:44:28 -0500 Received: by FROG.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU (Sendmail-8.7/res.client.cf-4.0) id OAA21376; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 14:44:27 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 14:44:26 -0500 (EST) From: "Rev. Ben" To: Randal Whittle Cc: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US, TP Subject: Re: Thinkpad IR port In-Reply-To: <199512121939.LAA21428@alcor.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Randal Whittle wrote: > > Has anyone set up linux on a thinkpad (mine is a 701) to use the > > infrared port? I'd like to get talking with my sharp wizard organizer > > Heck, I'd like to simply get the IR port to work with my HP > 100LX through Windows (specifically Win '95). I don't know if the > two will even talk to each other at all (but supposedly they do). I've got a TP701 and while I've not gotten the Direct Cable Connect to work with another TP701, I've gotten the IR port to work from a Term program. BAsically, pick a baud rate(57600) and use Zmodem. It works like a charm. I've never actually been able to get a good connect over 57600. Ben. ____ Ben Samman..............................................samman@cs.yale.edu "If what Proust says is true, that happiness is the absence of fever, then I will never know happiness. For I am possessed by a fever for knowledge, experience, and creation." -Anais Nin PGP Encrypted Mail Welcomed Finger samman@powered.cs.yale.edu for key From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 12 14:51:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15363; Tue, 12 Dec 95 14:51:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27613; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 14:49:06 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 12 Dec 1995 14:47:54 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA27496; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 14:47:49 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA10249; Tue, 12 Dec 95 11:47:34 -0800 Received: by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA00742; Tue, 12 Dec 95 11:46:22 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 11:46:21 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: "Randal Whittle" Subject: Re: Thinkpad IR port Cc: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US, "TP" In-Reply-To: <199512121939.laa21428@alcor.usc.edu> References: <199512121939.laa21428@alcor.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit On Dec. 12 95, 11:39 PST, "Randal Whittle" wrote: >> Has anyone set up linux on a thinkpad (mine is a 701) to use the >> infrared port? I'd like to get talking with my sharp wizard >> organizer > Heck, I'd like to simply get the IR port to work with my HP 100LX > through Windows (specifically Win '95). I don't know if the two > will even talk to each other at all (but supposedly they do). Seems like they should. I found the the thing was able to communicate with my HP48! I just ran a comm program (both under Win95 and NeXTSTEP), set the speed to 2400, set the com port to the IR port (com1), and it worked. I think the 100lx does 115,200bps. --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 12 16:58:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26495; Tue, 12 Dec 95 16:58:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09433; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 16:52:22 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 12 Dec 1995 16:49:50 -0500 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09181; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 16:49:43 -0500 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA01065; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 08:49:34 +1100 From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA01561; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 08:49:33 +1100 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 08:49:31 +1100 (EST) To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: How to rebuild stripped system (755cx)? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII apropos this question, and the questions about installing linux on the 760, if you buy two hdd's in, say, a 760 can you install dos/win311/NT/linux on the second hdd, then swap it with the first and use it as your main boot drive? regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Chris Osborn wrote: > I know this question has been asked before, but I've never really > seen an answer. > > If I were to wipe the entire system, how would I go about restoring > all the ThinkPad stuff? At the moment, I'd like to wipe everything, > then just restore Win3.1, then run the upgrade to Win95. I've got > a 540 meg drive, and only about 100megs free, and I can't dig out > what other stuff I can delete. > > Which disks on IBM's ftp site are for the 755cx? The listing is > very unclear. I can guess some of them, but not all of them. > > How do I determine which BIOS I have? I see there's a new 1.40 > disk, but when I go into easy setup, I get two different numbers. > Did IBM average them to get the single number they use on their > disk numbering? > > Also, has anyone gotten hold of that MWave for Win95 yet? If so, > could someone send me that disk? IBM still hasn't put it on their > ftp site. > > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 12 20:47:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16441; Tue, 12 Dec 95 20:47:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA26027; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 20:47:02 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 12 Dec 1995 20:44:46 -0500 Received: from netcom18.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA25820; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 20:44:42 -0500 Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id RAA08623; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 17:42:15 -0800 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 17:42:15 -0800 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199512130142.RAA08623@netcom18.netcom.com> To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: How to rebuild stripped system (755cx)? Easy-setup gives a bios date. The current bios is november 1995. IBM tech support says you need to get this bios if you want to run Windoze 95, since earlier bios's do not support plug and pray. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 12 22:27:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23192; Tue, 12 Dec 95 22:27:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03437; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 22:26:52 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 12 Dec 1995 22:25:04 -0500 Received: from Fe3.rust.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03182; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 22:25:00 -0500 Received: from liv-14.rust.net by Fe3.rust.net via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id WAA04614; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 22:26:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 22:26:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199512130326.WAA04614@Fe3.rust.net> X-Sender: billb@rust.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Bill Bryan Subject: Update Bios 701c to 3n dated 11/95. (note: my 701c is only 5 weeks old) Update performed correctly although instructions were not clear. Basically unzip EXE file in empty c: drive directory. There are 6 files not counting original SYS7013N.EXE, some of which are docs. Then format a 3.5" floppy with boot. From the blank directory type: LOADDSKF SYS7013N.DSK A: This makes the flash rom images on the A: drive. Then boot from this disk and follow instructions on screen. Looking over the documentation I found a lot of bug fixes for PCMCIA and Win95 PnP as well as sleep problems. Also updates the Diagnostic routines. B/B =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Bryan - billb@rust.net - http://www.rust.net/~billb - N8QPI Livonia, MI - " V e r y G o o d R o b i n " - Howard Stern =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 12 22:29:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23621; Tue, 12 Dec 95 22:29:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03651; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 22:28:18 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 12 Dec 1995 22:27:41 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA03565; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 22:27:38 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA13744; Tue, 12 Dec 95 19:27:38 -0800 Received: from spigot by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA00289; Tue, 12 Dec 95 19:26:24 -0800 Received: by spigot.marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67f2/NX3.0X) id AA00277; Tue, 12 Dec 95 19:26:19 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 19:26:18 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: How to rebuild stripped system (755cx)? In-Reply-To: <199512130142.raa08623@netcom18.netcom.com> References: <199512130142.raa08623@netcom18.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br i386) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br i386 Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit On Dec. 12 95, 17:42 PST, "Paul Rubin" wrote: > Easy-setup gives a bios date. The current bios is november 1995. My older bios was 8/10/95, I just loaded 1.40, and the date is 9/12/95. > IBM tech support says you need to get this bios if you want to > run Windoze 95, since earlier bios's do not support plug and pray. That doesn't appear to exactly be true. I had to load 1.30 to use Win95 (and NeXTSTEP), and figured I'd load 1.40 cuz newer has to be better. After loading it and restarting, Win95 suddenly pops up and says "New hardware detected", and wanted me to insert a driver disk. Turns out it had discovered the MWave DSP, and of course I have no driver disk for that (*anyone* got that MWave for Win95 disk?). Now I cannot use the MWave modem under Win95 anymore. It just locks the computer up when I open COM2. The *good* news is though, now NeXTSTEP seems happier. I can now actually suspend the computer, besides the previously supported standby mode. Hibernate doesn't work, but I don't really care about that. Now I can actually close the lid while NeXTSTEP is running and not hang it! :-) --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 12 22:34:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24375; Tue, 12 Dec 95 22:34:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04090; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 22:34:14 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 12 Dec 1995 22:33:41 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04031; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 22:33:38 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA13837; Tue, 12 Dec 95 19:33:35 -0800 Received: from spigot by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA00324; Tue, 12 Dec 95 19:32:31 -0800 Received: by spigot.marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67f2/NX3.0X) id AA00321; Tue, 12 Dec 95 19:32:14 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 19:32:13 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: "Rev. Ben" Subject: Re: Thinkpad IR port Cc: klm@CNRI.Reston.VA.US, "TP" , "Randal Whittle" In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br i386) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br i386 Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit On Dec. 12 95, 11:44 PST, "Rev. Ben" wrote: > I've never actually been able to get a good connect over 57600. I haven't had a problem doing 115200 with my Jeteye IrDA interface (the Jeteye *only* does 115200). --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 12 23:10:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25866; Tue, 12 Dec 95 23:10:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06614; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 23:09:12 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 12 Dec 1995 23:08:14 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06497; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 23:08:11 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA01741; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 23:08:26 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 23:08:22 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: How to rebuild stripped system (755cx)? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Chris Osborn wrote: > that. Now I can actually close the lid while NeXTSTEP is running > and not hang it! :-) FYI, many of the APM settings remain even if you quit DOS/Windows/OS/2. If you set the machine from DOS so it won't suspend when you close the lid, then boot Linux, it won't suspend if you close the lid. I do this to vary the screen and hard drive timeouts. I don't see why it should be any different for NeXTSTEP. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one jokim@mit.edu that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I have jokim@tuna.mit.edu found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 12 23:36:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27407; Tue, 12 Dec 95 23:36:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08369; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 23:35:59 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 12 Dec 1995 23:34:48 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08195; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 23:34:37 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA14361; Tue, 12 Dec 95 20:34:38 -0800 Received: from spigot by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA00625; Tue, 12 Dec 95 20:32:51 -0800 Received: by spigot.marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67f2/NX3.0X) id AA00427; Tue, 12 Dec 95 20:32:42 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 20:32:41 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: "John H. Kim" Subject: Re: How to rebuild stripped system (755cx)? Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br i386) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br i386 Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit On Dec. 12 95, 20:08 PST, "John H. Kim" wrote: > On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Chris Osborn wrote: >> that. Now I can actually close the lid while NeXTSTEP is running >> and not hang it! :-) > FYI, many of the APM settings remain even if you quit DOS/Windows/OS/2. > If you set the machine from DOS so it won't suspend when you close > the lid, then boot Linux, it won't suspend if you close the lid. > I do this to vary the screen and hard drive timeouts. I don't see > why it should be any different for NeXTSTEP. No, that isn't what I mean. Under the 1.30 BIOS, closing the lid would cause NeXTSTEP to *try* to go into suspend mode, but it would just hang NeXTSTEP, because apparently the BIOS wasn't capable of dealing with 32bit mode. It seems that the 1.40 BIOS has fixed that. BTW, how do even disable just suspend mode anyway? --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 12 23:55:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28748; Tue, 12 Dec 95 23:55:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09866; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 23:54:28 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 12 Dec 1995 23:53:23 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA09711; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 23:53:22 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA01870; Tue, 12 Dec 1995 23:53:33 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 23:53:32 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: How to rebuild stripped system (755cx)? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Chris Osborn wrote: > On Dec. 12 95, 20:08 PST, "John H. Kim" wrote: > > FYI, many of the APM settings remain even if you quit DOS/Windows/OS/2. > > If you set the machine from DOS so it won't suspend when you close > > the lid, then boot Linux, it won't suspend if you close the lid. > > I do this to vary the screen and hard drive timeouts. I don't see > > why it should be any different for NeXTSTEP. > > No, that isn't what I mean. > > Under the 1.30 BIOS, closing the lid would cause NeXTSTEP to *try* > to go into suspend mode, but it would just hang NeXTSTEP, because > apparently the BIOS wasn't capable of dealing with 32bit mode. It > seems that the 1.40 BIOS has fixed that. > > BTW, how do even disable just suspend mode anyway? Boot DOS, or Windows, or OS/2. Go to the power management utility (PS2.EXE under DOS, icons under the other two). One of the buttons there should be for suspend/resume options. Click it. One of the options will be a checkbox with "Suspend when lid is closed." If you toggle it, the machine will only go into standby mode when you close the lid. The Thinkpads determine if the lid is closed via a hardware switch. I'd really be surprised if NeXTSTEP knew about this switch and was trying to invoke suspend via APM on its own. Of course if the new BIOS fixes it, the point is moot. I just find it handy for using my old TP750 as an Internet-server-on-a-bookshelf, with the lid closed. ;) ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one jokim@mit.edu that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I have jokim@tuna.mit.edu found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 13 00:33:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00329; Wed, 13 Dec 95 00:33:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12377; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 00:28:09 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 13 Dec 1995 00:27:46 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA12302; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 00:27:38 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA14821; Tue, 12 Dec 95 21:27:35 -0800 Received: by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA00809; Tue, 12 Dec 95 21:15:56 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 21:15:54 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: "John H. Kim" Subject: Re: How to rebuild stripped system (755cx)? Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit On Dec. 12 95, 20:53 PST, "John H. Kim" wrote: > Boot DOS, or Windows, or OS/2. Go to the power management utility > (PS2.EXE under DOS, icons under the other two). I don't seem to have the Windows version of that program. Do you know where I could get it? Is it on one of those disks at IBM's ftp site? --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 13 01:58:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08346; Wed, 13 Dec 95 01:58:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16189; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 01:52:53 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 13 Dec 1995 01:51:04 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16116; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 01:51:02 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id BAA01964; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 01:51:14 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 01:51:14 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: How to rebuild stripped system (755cx)? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Chris Osborn wrote: > On Dec. 12 95, 20:53 PST, "John H. Kim" wrote: > > > Boot DOS, or Windows, or OS/2. Go to the power management utility > > (PS2.EXE under DOS, icons under the other two). > > I don't seem to have the Windows version of that program. Do you I might have gotten the name wrong (I only use the DOS version). It's the same utility that lets you set screen and hard drive shutdown times. > know where I could get it? Is it on one of those disks at IBM's > ftp site? Yes - the utility disk. ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/mobiles/uttp* uttp1310.doc 13089 09-28-95 Documentation for Common Util-1 Disk uttp1310.exe 1138547 09-28-95 Utility for 355,360,750,755,340,370,345 uttp2300.doc 1325 09-28-95 Documentation for Personalization Util-2 uttp2300.exe 243781 09-28-95 Util for 755cd/ce/cse/cv/cdv/cx/760 uttp3100.exe 1183286 11-15-95 Utility for ThinkPad 760c/CD ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one jokim@mit.edu that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I have jokim@tuna.mit.edu found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 13 02:03:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08744; Wed, 13 Dec 95 02:03:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16308; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 01:54:49 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 13 Dec 1995 01:53:47 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA16217; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 01:53:44 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id BAA01972; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 01:53:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 01:53:59 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us Cc: TP Subject: Re: Thinkpad IR port In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Chris Osborn wrote: > On Dec. 12 95, 11:44 PST, "Rev. Ben" wrote: > > > I've never actually been able to get a good connect over 57600. > > I haven't had a problem doing 115200 with my Jeteye IrDA interface > (the Jeteye *only* does 115200). Now you get to answer a question for me. :) I presume you've tried the IR port under Netscape. Does it act like a normal serial port, i.e. point two at each other and they act like they have a null modem cable in between? Or do you have to use some special software which is only available under DOS/Windows/OS/2? ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one jokim@mit.edu that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I have jokim@tuna.mit.edu found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 13 02:23:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11029; Wed, 13 Dec 95 02:23:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17820; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 02:19:21 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 13 Dec 1995 02:18:26 -0500 Received: from POWERED.ZOO3.CS.YALE.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA17724; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 02:18:24 -0500 Received: from FROG.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU by POWERED.ZOO3.CS.YALE.EDU (8.7/res.host.cf-3.5) with ESMTP id CAA06104; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 02:18:08 -0500 Received: by FROG.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU (Sendmail-8.7/res.client.cf-4.0) id CAA30174; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 02:18:07 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 02:18:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Rev. Ben" To: "John H. Kim" Cc: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us, TP Subject: Re: Thinkpad IR port In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 13 Dec 1995, John H. Kim wrote: > I presume you've tried the IR port under Netscape. Does it act like > a normal serial port, i.e. point two at each other and they act like > they have a null modem cable in between? Or do you have to use some > special software which is only available under DOS/Windows/OS/2? I'm not sure what you mean by 'under Netscape' but I've done it. The computers think they are connected by a null modem cable. Its really eerie to think that all this data is flying back and forth under your nose in thin air. I'm curious what I would see with a CCD that was sensitive to IR. Ben. ____ Ben Samman..............................................samman@cs.yale.edu "If what Proust says is true, that happiness is the absence of fever, then I will never know happiness. For I am possessed by a fever for knowledge, experience, and creation." -Anais Nin PGP Encrypted Mail Welcomed Finger samman@powered.cs.yale.edu for key From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 13 03:12:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13861; Wed, 13 Dec 95 03:12:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20687; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 03:06:01 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 13 Dec 1995 03:03:48 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20506; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 03:03:45 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id DAA02056; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 03:03:57 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 03:03:57 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us, TP Subject: Re: Thinkpad IR port In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 13 Dec 1995, John H. Kim wrote: > I presume you've tried the IR port under Netscape. Does it act like ^^^^^^^^ NeXTSTEP Grrrr.... ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one jokim@mit.edu that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I have jokim@tuna.mit.edu found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 13 03:13:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13873; Wed, 13 Dec 95 03:13:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20897; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 03:08:20 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 13 Dec 1995 03:07:44 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20734; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 03:07:39 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id DAA02065; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 03:07:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 03:07:41 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: "Rev. Ben" Cc: TP Subject: Re: Thinkpad IR port In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 13 Dec 1995, Rev. Ben wrote: > > I'm curious what I would see with a CCD that was sensitive to IR. Most camcorder CCDs *are* sensitive to IR. It's pretty neat. You hook it up to your TV and point the TV's remote at the camera. You see nothing, but the TV shows a flashing light. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one jokim@mit.edu that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I have jokim@tuna.mit.edu found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 13 09:45:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05745; Wed, 13 Dec 95 09:45:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21444; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 09:40:44 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 13 Dec 1995 09:37:36 -0500 Received: from dorsai.dorsai.org by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21260; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 09:37:30 -0500 From: Received: by dorsai.dorsai.org (5.67b/23Dec93-Dorsai Embassy) id AA07568; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 09:36:57 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 09:36:56 -0500 (est) To: Paul Rubin Cc: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: How to rebuild stripped system (755cx)? In-Reply-To: <199512130142.RAA08623@netcom18.netcom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Paul Rubin wrote: > Easy-setup gives a bios date. The current bios is november 1995. > IBM tech support says you need to get this bios if you want to > run Windoze 95, since earlier bios's do not support plug and pray. > How do I get the new bios and install it into the system? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 13 11:17:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12226; Wed, 13 Dec 95 11:17:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29158; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 11:13:20 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 13 Dec 1995 11:11:19 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA28989; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 11:11:17 -0500 Received: from [128.125.222.75] (comserv-d-03.usc.edu [128.125.222.75]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with SMTP id IAA13449; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 08:10:47 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 08:19:20 -0800 To: "Rev. Ben" , "John H. Kim" From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: Thinkpad IR port Cc: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us, TP At 2:18 AM 12/13/95, Rev. Ben wrote: >The computers think they are connected by a null modem cable. Its really >eerie to think that all this data is flying back and forth under your >nose in thin air. > >I'm curious what I would see with a CCD that was sensitive to IR. Get out your video camera and look through the viewfinder. I stumbled across this while videotaping a family member some couple of years ago and they pointed a TV remote at me. Wow! is saw the light! ;-) And when my 701 came recently and I had no way of really testing whether the IR port worked (nothing to communicate with and it didn't seem to work with my HP 100LX), I dug out the video camera and looked through the viewfinder. You see little flashes of light, basically. Its neato to think you can put on the "magic specs" and see things normally invisible to the naked eye. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Home Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 13 11:54:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14728; Wed, 13 Dec 95 11:54:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02624; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 11:52:10 -0500 Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 13 Dec 1995 11:51:10 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02448; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 11:51:08 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA09847; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 11:52:22 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 11:52:04 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: How to rebuild stripped system (755cx)? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Chris Osborn wrote: > On Dec. 12 95, 20:53 PST, "John H. Kim" wrote: > > > Boot DOS, or Windows, or OS/2. Go to the power management utility > > (PS2.EXE under DOS, icons under the other two). > > I don't seem to have the Windows version of that program. Do you > know where I could get it? Is it on one of those disks at IBM's > ftp site? Both the DOS and Windows versions are on the utility disk. UTPxxxx. Read the index file in the /pub directory. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 13 15:36:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10143; Wed, 13 Dec 95 15:36:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21679; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 15:34:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 13 Dec 1995 15:29:33 -0500 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21204; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 15:29:14 -0500 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA23951; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 07:28:08 +1100 From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA27348; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 07:28:06 +1100 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 07:28:05 +1100 (EST) To: Don Whiteside Cc: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: How to rebuild stripped system (755cx)? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII a very interesting and useful thread. don't recall seeing the whole answer to the question in the faq, though i don't have it front of me. seem to me to be two aspects: 1. your hard disk is completely absolutely trashed and either you want to rebuild is from scratch (no back-up) or you have a brand new one to use in its place. 2. you have a new, second hdd that you want to build a system, eg, linux, etc. that you can interchange with your main hdd. be nice to see a) a list of what you need, b) where you get it if not ibm-on-the-internet and c) a cookbook of how to do it. it is complicated a bit by the fact that ibm has different diskette policies for different countries/markets i believe. regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 On Wed, 13 Dec 1995, Don Whiteside wrote: > On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, Chris Osborn wrote: > > On Dec. 12 95, 20:53 PST, "John H. Kim" wrote: > > etc etc re rebuilding stripped system. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 13 16:18:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15911; Wed, 13 Dec 95 16:18:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25315; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 16:14:11 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 13 Dec 1995 16:12:46 -0500 Received: from vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25210; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 16:12:41 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id QAA07334; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 16:09:47 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA6629; Wed, 13 Dec 95 16:09:11 -0800 Message-Id: <9512140009.AA6629@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id DA51AB6AD22D2829852562910073FC29; Wed, 13 Dec 95 16:09:08 To: Alden S Klovdahl Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 13 Dec 95 16:08:14 EDT Subject: Re: How to rebuild stripped system (755cx)? X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain al sez: "....it is complicated a bit by the fact that ibm has different diskette policies for different countries/markets i believe....." ~~~~~ the policy ibm has expressed to me (usa) is that i have one of two chioces for rebuilding the disk image if i failed to make the diskette factory backups (which i did when i bought a 755cse). the choices were: 1) pay them $50 for a copy of dos, windows and mwave diskettes only. 2) pay ezserv $100 to take my thinkpad in, wipe out the hard drive & rebuild the image as it came in the box. i opted for #3, which is to go to my nearest dealer, buy another 755cse, build the diskette factory backups, then return it the next day under their 30-day no-questions-asked policy. having been down this road once, i highly reccommend it. : ) Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 13 20:50:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08286; Wed, 13 Dec 95 20:50:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA15416; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 20:49:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 13 Dec 1995 20:45:36 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA15147; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 20:45:32 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA02805; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 20:45:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 20:45:43 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Thinkpad Promotion Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Info on this was supposed to ship with my Thinkpad, but it didn't. So I'm posting here in case anyone doesn't know about it. If you purchased a Thinkpad between 1 Sept. 1995 and 31 Dec. 1995, you are entitled to a free copy of Lotus Smartsuite 4.0 for Win 3.1 on CDROM. You can also purchase 3 out of the following 7 items for $99 total: - Port compact carrying case - Jeteye IR desktop adapter and software - Mindpath remote control (for presentations) - Quickxpense - Maplinx 3.0 - Simply House/Simply Kids - Kiplinger's Simply Money More info is at http://www.pc.ibm.com, and fax-back at 1-800-426-3395 select option 1 document #11033. You have until 15 Jan. 1996 to order. I'm considering getting the Jeteye IR adapter and was wondering if anyone else wanted to buy the Port carrying case (or the Kensington carrying case I currently have) and one of the others. (I'm assuming this is the generic Port carrying case for all the Thinkpads) ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one jokim@mit.edu that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I have jokim@tuna.mit.edu found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 02:52:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08794; Thu, 14 Dec 95 02:52:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09780; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 02:52:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 02:48:42 -0500 Received: from netcom4.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA09448; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 02:48:37 -0500 Received: by netcom4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id XAA18249; Wed, 13 Dec 1995 23:46:09 -0800 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 23:46:09 -0800 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199512140746.XAA18249@netcom4.netcom.com> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: flaky ac connector Anyone else experience flakiness in the power connector that plugs into the back of a 755cx (probably same as other 755 series)? I can't tell for sure whether the flakiness is in the adapter's plug or on the thinkpad side itself. The pins inside the thinkpad feel solid enough. The tip of the adapter plug has loosened up in the sleeve that surrounds it a bit further back (the sleeve has separated slightly into its two halves). It's all kind of hard to describe. Is trouble with the ac adapter a common problem? The Thinkpad is nicer than my old Toshiba 4600 in many many ways, but one thing Toshiba did right is used a standard barrel-type dc power connector. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 03:23:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11191; Thu, 14 Dec 95 03:23:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA11695; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 03:22:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 03:21:12 -0500 Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA11602; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 03:21:06 -0500 Received: from leonard.anu.edu.au (ask611@leonard.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.15]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA22772; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 19:20:52 +1100 From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by leonard.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA15975; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 19:20:50 +1100 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 19:20:48 +1100 (EST) To: Paul Rubin Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: flaky ac connector In-Reply-To: <199512140746.XAA18249@netcom4.netcom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i've had this problem with mine from day 1 - 755ce. never really been a problem though. regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 On Wed, 13 Dec 1995, Paul Rubin wrote: > Anyone else experience flakiness in the power connector that plugs > into the back of a 755cx (probably same as other 755 series)? I can't From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 04:32:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14687; Thu, 14 Dec 95 04:32:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA17598; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 04:31:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 04:29:04 -0500 Received: from mail.crl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA17305; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 04:29:00 -0500 Received: from crl11.crl.com by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA21893 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 01:27:10 -0800 Received: by crl11.crl.com id AA06722 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 01:12:29 -0800 From: Mark Ng Message-Id: <199512140912.AA06722@crl11.crl.com> Subject: Re: flaky ac connector To: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 01:12:29 -0800 (PST) Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199512140746.XAA18249@netcom4.netcom.com> from "Paul Rubin" at Dec 13, 95 11:46:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Anyone else experience flakiness in the power connector that plugs >into the back of a 755cx (probably same as other 755 series)? I can't >tell for sure whether the flakiness is in the adapter's plug or on the >thinkpad side itself. The pins inside the thinkpad feel solid enough. >The tip of the adapter plug has loosened up in the sleeve that >surrounds it a bit further back (the sleeve has separated slightly >into its two halves). It's all kind of hard to describe. Is trouble >with the ac adapter a common problem? There was a thread on this in the CIS Thinkpad forum recently. I caught only the later part so am unsure of the exact breakage mode but did read that IBM customer support is replacing the whole power supply brick and cord with a better designed plug but somewhat bulkier brick for those having problems. My own 755cx plug is getting loose too. Used to snap in but suddenly one day started sliding in. -- Mark Ng mng@crl.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 05:28:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17173; Thu, 14 Dec 95 05:28:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA24514; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 05:27:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 05:26:19 -0500 Received: from hpserv0.cs.uit.no by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA24032; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 05:26:15 -0500 Received: from haralds.cs.uit.no by hpserv0.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/Task/HJ-5) id AA288186762; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 11:26:04 +0100 Received: by haralds.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/HJ/Task-5) id AA133416902; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 11:28:22 +0100 From: harald@staff.cs.uit.no (Harald Skotnes) Message-Id: <199512141028.AA133416902@haralds.cs.uit.no> Subject: IBM ThinkPad World Trade 755 DAA Option Disk for Mwave 2.0 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 11:28:19 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23GIJ-4] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, Has anyone successfully installed the daa_200d.exe from ftp.pcco.ibm.com? When I try to install it over my existing Mwave200 running under win95 on a TP755CD, it says that my c:\mww\faxtam\mciphone.drv is invalid. Then it destroys my mwave and I have to reinstall the mwave. When I reinstall I can not start win95 because mwave has detectet some memory conflicts with win95. But if I delete all mwavefiles and reinstalls it, mwave200 is up and running again (without the daa_200d.exe though). --Harald Skotnes From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 05:45:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18067; Thu, 14 Dec 95 05:45:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA27345; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 05:44:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 05:43:23 -0500 Received: from deneb.dfn.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA27273; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 05:43:18 -0500 Received: from unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de ([141.71.1.10]) by deneb.dfn.de (4.1/SMI-4.2) id AA01813; Thu, 14 Dec 95 11:42:53 +0100 Received: from bidnix.bid.fh-hannover.de by unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA28285; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 11:42:23 +0100 Received: by bidnix.bid.fh-hannover.de (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0tQB3k-0005MtC; Thu, 14 Dec 95 11:38 MET Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 11:38:43 +0100 (MET) From: Hanno Wagner To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: PCMCIA-Soundcard+SCSI-Adapter? In-Reply-To: <199512141028.AA133416902@haralds.cs.uit.no> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I am looking for a PCMCIA-Soundcard, if possible Soundblaster Pro and/or Gravis Ultrasound compatible. Also I am looking for a good PCMCIA2SCSI-Card, are there some which have both (soundcard and PCMCIA2SCAI) in it? Which of them works also with LinuX and DOS? Thanks for your help, Hanno -- Hanno Wagner, Student der Fachhochschule Hannover, Fachbereich IK URL: http://www.bid.fh-hannover.de:80/~wagner/ Rince@IRC *** Fatal Error: Found [MS-Windows] -> Repartitioning Disk for LiNUX... Redistribution of this message prohibited for: Compuserve, Microsoft Network, America Online, Telekom Online and Europe Online ! pgp-fingerprint: A1 86 C4 24 6E 66 49 8A 56 89 0F 46 E0 29 06 12 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 07:44:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24035; Thu, 14 Dec 95 07:44:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA04251; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 07:43:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 07:41:30 -0500 Received: from earth.usa.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA04131; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 07:41:25 -0500 Received: (from crumrine@localhost) by earth.usa.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id FAA19424; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 05:39:01 -0700 Reply-To: "Mike Crumrine/C@C Computer and Consulting Services Inc" Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 05:39:00 -0700 (MST) From: "Mike Crumrine/C@C Computer and Consulting Services Inc" X-Sender: crumrine@earth To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 760cd mpeg demo Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, Michael MacDonald wrote: > Actually, I can't view it through the demo app either (also a blank > screen). I can only display it via Media Player. > > On Sun, 10 Dec 1995 sunderam@cs.utk.edu wrote: > > > Did you say you had to change some setting in order to get the > > mped "true lies" demo to work? I just get an empty screen > > with audio in the background. Any suggestions woul dbe appreciated. Just got my 760cd on saturday. The mpeg demo tells you as it is installing that you must be running 800x600 65000 colors. Ok, I assume this is what I have and I also get the blank screen. Check the driver in windows setup, and it is set for 256. Set it to 65000 and bingo. BTW, I had ordered with OS/2 and win 3.11. I was told (several times) that I could not order with 95, in spite of their web page and other sources. But the machine did come with the 95 drivers and a booklet on how to upgrade. Installed 95 pretty much without a hitch. The only thing I have to figure out is the pcmcia stuff. Cards work with the 95 drivers, but the upgrade booklet describes specific drivers to load that I cannot find. Also, when installing 95 from a CD, when it asks you if you want to build the repair disk just say no. Apparently the cd and floppy are not hot swapable while installing :^() Mike Crumrine crumrine@usa.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 08:26:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26524; Thu, 14 Dec 95 08:26:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06857; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 08:25:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 08:24:37 -0500 Received: from hpserv0.cs.uit.no by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA06713; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 08:24:34 -0500 Received: from haralds.cs.uit.no by hpserv0.cs.uit.no with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/IOH-1.0) id AA172897472; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 14:24:32 +0100 Received: by haralds.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/HJ/Task-5) id AA137207323; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 14:22:03 +0100 From: harald@staff.cs.uit.no (Harald Skotnes) Message-Id: <199512141322.AA137207323@haralds.cs.uit.no> Subject: Re: 760cd mpeg demo To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 14:22:02 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: from "Mike Crumrine/C@C Computer and Consulting Services Inc" at Dec 14, 95 05:39:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23GIJ-4] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Just got my 760cd on saturday. The mpeg demo tells you as it is > installing that you must be running 800x600 65000 colors. Ok, I assume > this is what I have and I also get the blank screen. Check the driver in > windows setup, and it is set for 256. Set it to 65000 and bingo. > > > Installed 95 pretty much without a hitch. The only thing I have to figure > out is the pcmcia stuff. Cards work with the 95 drivers, but the upgrade > booklet describes specific drivers to load that I cannot find. Also, when > installing 95 from a CD, when it asks you if you want to build the repair > disk just say no. Apparently the cd and floppy are not hot swapable while > installing :^() > > Mike Crumrine > crumrine@usa.net > > Do you get the 65000 colors to work with the 760 when running win95? My 755CD will not boot when using 65000 colors on win95. -- Harald Skotnes From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 09:48:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00249; Thu, 14 Dec 95 09:48:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14320; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 09:46:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 09:45:46 -0500 Received: from internet.fultech.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14049; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 09:45:40 -0500 From: Received: from wayne.fultech.com (wayne.fultech.com [172.16.10.17]) by internet with SMTP (DuhMail/2.0) id JAA02283; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 09:43:10 -0500 Received: from smtplink.fultech.com by wayne.fultech.com (4.1/) id AA11208; Thu, 14 Dec 95 09:45:42 EST Received: from ccMail by smtplink.fultech.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA818963189; Thu, 14 Dec 95 09:41:30 EST Date: Thu, 14 Dec 95 09:41:30 EST Message-Id: <9511148189.AA818963189@smtplink.fultech.com> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: native Win95 CD-ROM access on 755CD Win95 is accessing the CD-ROM drive on my 755CD in "compatibility mode". I would like to eliminate the IBM driver and MSCDEX, but none of my attempts have worked. Has anyone figured-out how to do this after Win95 has been installed? Assistance or pointers will be greatly appreciated! Scott Newman From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 09:48:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00247; Thu, 14 Dec 95 09:48:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14312; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 09:46:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 09:43:54 -0500 Received: from lotus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13813; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 09:43:50 -0500 Received: from internet1.lotus.com (crd.lotus.com) by lotus.com (4.1/SMI-4.10801.1994) id AA22900; Thu, 14 Dec 95 10:05:11 EST Received: by internet1.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02770; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 09:38:03 -0500 Message-Id: <9512141438.AA02770@internet1.lotus.com> Received: by Lotus (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V.03 Beta) id 9A8774DC59918F878525629200509B1C; Thu, 14 Dec 95 09:38:01 EST To: "John H. Kim" Cc: tp750 From: Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus Date: 14 Dec 95 9:42:38 EST Subject: Re: Thinkpad Promotion X-Lotus-Type: Reply to All With History Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain > case I currently have) and one of the others. (I'm assuming this is > the generic Port carrying case for all the Thinkpads) The Port case is the Port Compact for Thinkpads. I did stop by the Mobile World exhibit in Boston recently and the Port rep mentioned that this could not be traded in for one of Port's larger cases in case it is too small because it was a special deal w/ IBM...just FYI.. ken From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 10:07:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02343; Thu, 14 Dec 95 10:07:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16438; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 10:06:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 10:05:43 -0500 Received: from netcom19.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16324; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 10:05:38 -0500 Received: by netcom19.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id HAA08542; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 07:03:20 -0800 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 07:03:20 -0800 From: phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) Message-Id: <199512141503.HAA08542@netcom19.netcom.com> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: how to get disk caddies apart? I'm having various problems trying to install Yggdrasil Plug & Play Linux from CD-ROM and am thinking the easiest thing might be to just mount my Thinkpad HD into a desktop machine using a 2.5" IDE adapter and install that way. But I need to get the drive out of the Thinkpad caddy to do that. It looks kind of difficult to get the caddy open without messing up the little snaps etc., but I'm pretty sure it can be done unless they've changed the design lately. Anyone with experience? tia. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 11:52:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11066; Thu, 14 Dec 95 11:52:17 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24924; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 11:51:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 11:49:36 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24515; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 11:49:29 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA00789; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 11:49:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 11:49:44 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Bill Bryan Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad Promotion In-Reply-To: <199512140545.AAA14028@Fe3.rust.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here's a better description of the three most popular (i.e. expensive :) items in the Thinkpad Promotion: JetEye PC from Extended Systems(TM) Now you can transfer data between your ThinkPad with an infrared port and a desktop computer quickly and efficiently using the JetEye PC's infrared adapter. JetEye eliminates the need to use serial cables when you connect to a computer which means that you can easily enhance the portability and functionality of your ThinkPad. And you can also increase your ability to ge t things done. JetEye PC is a high speed, wireless data interface that provides a "point-and-shoot" infrared connection for desktop computers, thus eliminating the cable hassles that get in the way of transferring files between your ThinkPad and deskt op computer. With JetEye PC, all you have to do is transfer files is point your ThinkPad at JetEye PC and begin your file transfer. The JetEye PC receiver automatically establishes a connection and gives you quick access to the data on the desktop. Value: $135.00 Mind Path(TM) Remote Control (Model IR50 F/X) Unleash the power of your computer and orchestrate dynamic pr esentations from across a desk or across the room with Mind Path Remote Control. It's the essential tool you need to give you control of your PC and add professionalism to any presentation. The infrared Mind Path receiver--which can be set up in minutes-- plugs into the serial port of your ThinkPad and lets you use your remote up to 45 feet away. Use the provided Mind Path Presentation F/X software to add such exciting affects as Zoom-In, Telestrator and Spotlight. Go forward and backward easily with the h andy Slideshow buttons. Or enjoy precise cursor control with the patented MouseDisk(TM) which puts the power of your mouse in the palm of your hand. Mind Path is the perfect way to add flair to all your presentations. Value: $149.95 Port Compact Carrying Case This lightweight, compact carrying case from Port, Inc. is the per fect way to carry your ThinkPad and basic accessories. Made of premium ballistic nylon, it has a unique Shock-Absorbing System that secures and protects your ThinkPad when you're on the go. With a removable pouch that holds your AC adapter and basic acces sories and a front compartment with room for additional accessories, files or other business items, it's the smart choice when you want to take your ThinkPad with you on the road. Value $99.00 I called IBM PC Direct and asked for the model number and size: TPG7000 16" x 12" x 5" 3.9lb ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one jokim@mit.edu that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I have jokim@tuna.mit.edu found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 12:31:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13515; Thu, 14 Dec 95 12:31:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28411; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 12:30:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 12:29:20 -0500 Received: from happy.qualcomm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA28220; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 12:29:17 -0500 Received: from gjacobs (gjacobs.qualcomm.com [129.46.122.39]) by happy.qualcomm.com (8.7.3/8.7.2/1.2) with SMTP id JAA18653 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 09:28:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199512141728.JAA18653@happy.qualcomm.com> X-Sender: gjacobs@129.46.50.61 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 09:27:53 -0800 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Gary E. Jacobs" Subject: PCMCIA slots on Dock II Since my Thinkpad has 2 PCMCIA slots and the dock II has 2, do I get the use of 4 slots when my thinkpad is docked? Or do the dock slots takeover from the thinkpad slots? Gary Jacobs gjacobs@qualcomm.com (619)658-4069 voice (619)658-2120 fax From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 13:11:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15943; Thu, 14 Dec 95 13:11:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01266; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 13:10:18 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 13:08:43 -0500 Received: from peritus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01112; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 13:08:38 -0500 Received: from tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com (tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com [199.26.191.60]) by peritus.com (sendmail 8.6.12/Peritus-3.0) with ESMTP id MAA07945; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 12:53:38 -0500 Received: from localhost by tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com (sendmail 8.6.9/Peritus-2.0) id MAA11524; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 12:59:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199512141759.MAA11524@tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com> To: scottn@fulcrum.com Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: native Win95 CD-ROM access on 755CD In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 14 Dec 1995 09:41:30 EST." <9511148189.AA818963189@smtplink.fultech.com> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 12:59:31 -0500 From: Don Markuson -> Win95 is accessing the CD-ROM drive on my 755CD in "compatibility -> mode". I would like to eliminate the IBM driver and MSCDEX, but none -> of my attempts have worked. Has anyone figured-out how to do this -> after Win95 has been installed? -> -> Assistance or pointers will be greatly appreciated! The text file within ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/mobiles/tpwin95.exe explains how to do this, but it sounds like you may have already tried this unsuccessfully. I know it worked for me... Here's the excerpt: 5.1.5. CD-ROM Device driver (ThinkPad 755CD or other CD-ROM model only) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Windows 95 comes with a generic ATAPI CD-ROM driver and it works with the ThinkPad integrated CD-ROM. However, DOS/Windows version of IBM CD-ROM driver is not removed, if you upgrade to Windows 95 beta from DOS/Windows with IBM CD-ROM driver loaded. The CD-ROM is still visible in this case but you lose speed and some functionality which Windows 95 generic ATAPI driver provides. The generic Windows 95 CD-ROM driver is automatically installed if you don't migrated from DOS/Windows or you migrated from DOS/Windows but without IBM CD-ROM driver. To make sure that you are using Windows 95 generic ATAPI CD-ROM driver, do the following steps. 1. Go to MS-DOS command prompt 2. Edit CONFIG.SYS 3. Look for IBMTPCD.SYS in CONFIG.SYS DEVICE=C:\xxxxxx\IBMTPCD.SYS /D:TPCD001 /P:170 /R (Note xxxxxx is the name of subdirectory where you installed the CD-ROM driver) If you find it, add "REM" before this statement to comment it out; save CONFIG.SYS. If you cannot find it or it's already REM'd out, quit and go to the next step. 4. Edit AUTOEXEC.BAT 5. Look for MSCDEX.EXE in AUTOEXEC.BAT C:\xxxxxx\MSCDEX.EXE /D:TPCD001 /M:15 (Note xxxxxx is the name of subdirectory where you installed the CD-ROM driver) If you find it, add "REM" before this statement to comment it out; save AUTOEXEC.BAT. If you cannot find it or it's already REM'd out, quit and go to the next step. 6. Exit DOS command prompt; Reboot the system. Make sure you're running a BIOS with Plug&Play support: 1.30 or 1.40. It probably helps to have the CD-ROM actually in the machine for the reboot, although strictly-speaking this shouldn't be necessary if PnP works right. ..Don Markuson dmarkuson@peritus.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 13:30:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17005; Thu, 14 Dec 95 13:30:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02773; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 13:29:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 13:27:50 -0500 Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02658; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 13:27:47 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Dec 95 13:27 EST From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: gjacobs@qualcomm.com Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Msg of Thu, 14 Dec 1995 09:27:53 -0800 from "Gary E. Jacobs" Subject: PCMCIA slots on Dock II Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 09:27:53 -0800 From: "Gary E. Jacobs" Since my Thinkpad has 2 PCMCIA slots and the dock II has 2, do I get the use of 4 slots when my thinkpad is docked? Or do the dock slots takeover from the thinkpad slots? You get to use all four of them. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 13:33:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17213; Thu, 14 Dec 95 13:33:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03123; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 13:32:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 13:31:28 -0500 Received: from icarus2.opt-sci.arizona.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02967; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 13:31:11 -0500 Received: from cobra.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (cobra.Opt-Sci.Arizona.EDU [150.135.52.21]) by icarus2.opt-sci.arizona.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA16239; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 11:31:01 -0700 (MST) Received: by cobra.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (SMI-8.6/SMIb) id LAA24291; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 11:30:56 -0700 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 11:30:56 -0700 From: stu@icarus2.opt-sci.arizona.edu (Stuart Biggar) Message-Id: <199512141830.LAA24291@cobra.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU> To: gjacobs@qualcomm.com Subject: Re: PCMCIA slots on Dock II Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Gary, I have a 755CX, a Dock II, a Port Replicator with 2 PCMCISA sockets, and various PCMCIA cards. I get the use of all 4 with either a port replicator or the Dock II if I am to believe the Warp Plug and Play for PCMCIA thing. The only problem is NOT ENOUGH interrupts to use cards that need them if you are using the built-in ThinkPad features like the Mwave DSP stuff. If you turn off some of that stuff (Soundblaster ...) you might have sufficient interrupts. I actually have tested an IBM Voice Dictation PCMCIA card and a modem card in the Dock II PCMCIA sockets and I use an IBM PCMCIA SCSI card in one of the two port replicator sockets. Stuart ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stuart F. Biggar Phone: (520) 621-8168 Remote Sensing Group FAX: (520) 621-8292 Optical Sciences Center University of Arizona 1600 N. Country Club Rd, Ste 100 Tucson, AZ 85716-3160 Internet: Stuart.Biggar@opt-sci.arizona.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 13:40:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17492; Thu, 14 Dec 95 13:40:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03707; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 13:39:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 13:38:10 -0500 Received: from speed3.speed.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03601; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 13:38:05 -0500 From: Received: from kev.deltanet.net (ana0022.deltanet.com [199.171.191.22]) by speed3.speed.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA02526; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 10:37:47 -0800 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 95 10:27:27 PST Subject: Re: Thinkpad Promotion To: "John H. Kim" , tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Chameleon V0.05, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Thu, 14 Dec 1995 11:49:44 -0500 (EST) John H. Kim wrote: >JetEye PC from Extended Systems(TM) > >JetEye PC is a high speed, wireless data interface that provides a >"point-and-shoot" infrared connection for desktop computers, thus >eliminating the cable hassles that get in the way of transferring files >between your ThinkPad and deskt op computer. With JetEye PC, all you have >to do is transfer files is point your ThinkPad at JetEye PC and begin your >file transfer. The JetEye PC receiver automatically establishes a >connection and gives you quick access to the data on the desktop. > >Value: $135.00 If you want more specs on this product go to http://warrior.com/extsys. Extended Systems has asked us to post this information, and we also sell the JetEye PC. We have 7 left, and if you're on this list I'll instruct our sales teams to sell these to you for an even $100. If they give you any flak (on 800/274-4277 x 4) tell them to speak with me. The MindPath product is also great... but we don't carry that one yet. MindPath's contact info is on our ThinkPad Proven section at http://warrior.com/tpp, if you want their contact info. --------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Prince | Check out the Road Warrior Outpost kevin@warrior.com | at --> http://warrior.com <-- 714.418.1400 x101 | Solutions for the Mobile Professional --------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 14:07:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19518; Thu, 14 Dec 95 14:07:16 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06241; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 14:05:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 14:04:54 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06062; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 14:04:49 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA09306; Thu, 14 Dec 95 11:04:32 -0800 Received: by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA01302; Thu, 14 Dec 95 11:03:09 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 11:03:08 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: MWave for Win95 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Ok, I was just on CompuServe, and I didn't find any MWave for Win95 stuff there either. Was that message about MWave for Win95 just a hoax? --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 14:42:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24476; Thu, 14 Dec 95 14:42:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09311; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 14:40:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 14:39:49 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09030; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 14:39:45 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA09815; Thu, 14 Dec 95 11:39:24 -0800 Received: by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA01468; Thu, 14 Dec 95 11:38:07 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 11:38:06 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: "Ted Frederick" Subject: Re: MWave for Win95 Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <199512141930.laa20521@cds9258.cadence.com> References: <199512141930.laa20521@cds9258.cadence.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit On Dec. 14 95, 11:30 PST, "Ted Frederick" wrote: > I don't know what the original poster found but it's unlikely that it was > the Win95 MWave driver. It was probably the 2.0 drivers, and then the > Beavis assumed that it was for Win95. I dunno. Here's the message he sent below. Does *anyone* have this file? If so, send it to me, and I'll put in on my anonymous ftp site. --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Dennis Park Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 12:33:59 -0800 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Mwave for Win95 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Just wanted to let everyone know that the Mwave drivers for Windows 95 is now available from IBM's BBS. The file is called: MW952101.EXE (MWAVE Windows 95 Drivers) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 14:43:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24487; Thu, 14 Dec 95 14:43:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04560; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 13:48:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 13:47:07 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04416; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 13:47:03 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA09049; Thu, 14 Dec 95 10:46:28 -0800 Received: by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA01142; Thu, 14 Dec 95 10:44:50 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 10:44:48 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: kevin@warrior.com Subject: MindPath remote Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu, "John H. Kim" In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit On Dec. 14 95, 10:27 PST, kevin@warrior.com wrote: > The MindPath product is also great... but we don't carry that one > yet. MindPath's contact info is on our ThinkPad Proven section > at http://warrior.com/tpp, if you want their contact info. I haven't been able to get that to work with the built-in IR on my 755cx. Works fine with the IR dongle that came with the remote, but I'd rather use the built-in IR. --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 14:44:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25019; Thu, 14 Dec 95 14:44:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09474; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 14:42:19 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 14:41:45 -0500 Received: from kalypso.cybercom.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09386; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 14:41:42 -0500 Received: from death-star (dial1-6.cybercom.net [205.198.81.6]) by kalypso.cybercom.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA03502 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 14:41:32 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2b7.32.19951214193536.0075457c@pop.fas.harvard.edu> X-Sender: chan4@pop.fas.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2b7 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 14:35:36 -0500 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Derek V. Chan" Subject: Upgrading the 750C processor... any way we could hack it ourselves? IS there any processor pin compatible w/ a 486SL? ****************************************************************************** "Opinions are like assholes -- everybody's got one" Clint Eastwood, THE DEAD POOL Derek V. Chan (chan4@fas.harvard.edu, dchan@cybercom.net) ****************************************************************************** From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 15:13:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26259; Thu, 14 Dec 95 15:13:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11761; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 15:08:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 15:08:11 -0500 Received: from kalypso.cybercom.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11644; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 15:08:08 -0500 Received: from death-star (dvader@dial1-6.cybercom.net [205.198.81.6]) by kalypso.cybercom.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA08137 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 15:08:05 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2b7.32.19951214200208.0070bc60@pop.fas.harvard.edu> X-Sender: chan4@pop.fas.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2b7 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 15:02:08 -0500 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Derek V. Chan" Subject: 33 K PC Card Modem & Cellular Support? is there such a beast? 33K: USR Courier Cellular: AT&T any modem w/ features of both? ****************************************************************************** "Opinions are like assholes -- everybody's got one" Clint Eastwood, THE DEAD POOL Derek V. Chan (chan4@fas.harvard.edu, dchan@cybercom.net) ****************************************************************************** From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 15:13:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26264; Thu, 14 Dec 95 15:13:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11433; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 15:05:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 15:03:50 -0500 Received: from speed3.speed.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11224; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 15:03:47 -0500 From: Received: from kev.deltanet.net (ana0022.deltanet.com [199.171.191.22]) by speed3.speed.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA03235 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 12:03:42 -0800 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 95 12:04:04 PST Subject: MindPath 800 # To: tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: Chameleon V0.05, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Woopse! MindPath isn't even on our ThinkPad Proven pages yet (they're too new to the TPP game). But their 800 number is ... 800-634-7424. Sorry for the wild goose chase on our web site. They can fax you the info you need. --------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Prince | Check out the Road Warrior Outpost kevin@warrior.com | at --> http://warrior.com <-- 714.418.1400 x101 | Solutions for the Mobile Professional --------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 15:13:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26269; Thu, 14 Dec 95 15:13:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12113; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 15:10:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 15:09:51 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11823; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 15:09:47 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA01233; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 15:09:58 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 15:09:58 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Paul Rubin Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: how to get disk caddies apart? In-Reply-To: <199512141503.HAA08542@netcom19.netcom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 14 Dec 1995, Paul Rubin wrote: > I'm having various problems trying to install Yggdrasil Plug & Play > Linux from CD-ROM and am thinking the easiest thing might be to just > mount my Thinkpad HD into a desktop machine using a 2.5" IDE adapter > and install that way. But I need to get the drive out of the Thinkpad > caddy to do that. It looks kind of difficult to get the caddy open Don Whiteside has a nice writeup on how to do this. Here's a quick summary. Make sure you have a jeweler's screwdriver. Lift the corners of the ///////// label and remove the screws underneath. Make sure you catch the nuts on the bottom. Then use the screwdriver to pry apart the left side of the case (oriented as it sits in the Thinkpad). The middle latches seem to be the easiest to pry apart. This can be tricky, especially the first time. Make sure you don't accidently jab the screwdriver into the case and scratch the drive electronics. After the left side is open, you can do the same for the right side (easier once the left side is free). BUT, :) I wouldn't recommend it if you have a 540 MB or larger drive. The Thinkpads seem to do all sorts of BIOS tricks to get the EIDE drives to work, and there's no guarantee a system installed from your dekstop will be bootable or usable. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one jokim@mit.edu that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I have jokim@tuna.mit.edu found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 15:22:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26703; Thu, 14 Dec 95 15:22:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08489; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 14:33:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 14:32:16 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08407; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 14:32:14 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id LAA16964; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 11:31:49 -0800 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma016763; Thu Dec 14 11:30:32 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (pctedf.cadence.com [158.140.56.21]) by cds9258.cadence.com (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id LAA20521; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 11:30:29 -0800 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 11:30:29 -0800 Message-Id: <199512141930.LAA20521@cds9258.cadence.com> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us, tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Ted Frederick Subject: Re: MWave for Win95 At 11:03 AM 12/14/95 PST, Chris Osborn wrote: >Ok, I was just on CompuServe, and I didn't find any MWave for Win95 >stuff there either. Was that message about MWave for Win95 just a >hoax? > Either that or the person who said they saw it didn't know what the hell they were talking about, IMNSHO. I've looked *everywhere* myself and come up empty... I've called IBM on several occasions over the past couple of weeks in reference to the Win95 32-bit MWave and they all claim ignorance (even the 2nd level comms specialists). I'm pissed that I've spent so much time chasing this white elephant. I don't know what the original poster found but it's unlikely that it was the Win95 MWave driver. It was probably the 2.0 drivers, and then the Beavis assumed that it was for Win95. Aaarrggh! -Ted *********************************** Ted Frederick Strategic Programs Manager Design & Data Management Practice Voice: 408.894.2275 Fax: 408.894.3484 tedf@cadence.com ********************************** "Are we not drawn onward, we few, drawn onward to new era?" From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 17:20:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20204; Thu, 14 Dec 95 17:20:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23797; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 17:19:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 17:18:43 -0500 Received: from central.picker.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23687; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 17:18:40 -0500 Received: from mr.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0tQLlX-0004woC; Thu, 14 Dec 95 17:04 EST Received: from alpha14 by mr.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-a) id AA09506; Thu, 14 Dec 95 17:04:27 EST From: djr@mr.picker.com (Don Russell) Received: by alpha14; (5.65/1.1.8.2/15May95-0912AM) id AA09067; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 17:04:25 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 17:04:25 -0500 Message-Id: <9512142204.AA09067@alpha14> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP760/XFree/800x600 mode line I am looking for an XFree config file that will drive my new TP760 at 800x600 resolution. Does anyone have such a thing? The 760 has the Trident lcd9320 chipset for the display and an sc1148n Ramdac. I am running XFree 3.1 and Linux 1.3.32. Any help will be welcome. Thanks. -- +------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Don Russell | Internet: djr@mr.picker.com | | Picker International | Voice: (216)-473-5726 | | 5500 Avion Park Drive | Fax: (216) 473-5728 | | Highland Heights, Ohio 44143 | | +------------------------------+-------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 17:25:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20776; Thu, 14 Dec 95 17:25:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18475; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 16:22:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 16:15:06 -0500 Received: from hoover.stanford.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17650; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 16:15:03 -0500 Received: from DBark.Stanford.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #13307) id <01HYSRN7B5PS007CC2@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 13:15:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 13:15:14 -0800 (PST) Date-Warning: Date header was inserted by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU From: "Dennis L. Bark" Subject: .dsk files X-Sender: bark@hoover.stanford.edu To: IN@"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Message-Id: <01HYSRN7DAVM007CC2@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Does anyone know .dsk extension files on the 755 ce are used for anything besides installation? I have several mg that I would like to clear off. Thank you! Dennis Bark at Hoover. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 17:25:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20782; Thu, 14 Dec 95 17:25:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18471; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 16:22:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 16:20:52 -0500 Received: from lotus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18298; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 16:20:50 -0500 Received: from internet1.lotus.com (crd.lotus.com) by lotus.com (4.1/SMI-4.10801.1994) id AA10174; Thu, 14 Dec 95 16:42:13 EST Received: by internet1.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA25650; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 16:14:54 -0500 Message-Id: <9512142114.AA25650@internet1.lotus.com> Received: by Lotus (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V.03 Beta) id 82561211EF37AD940525629200738641; Thu, 14 Dec 95 16:14:52 EST To: "Gary E. Jacobs" Cc: tp750 From: Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus Date: 14 Dec 95 16:06:37 EST Subject: Re: PCMCIA slots on Dock II Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain You get to use all four if you're running Warp .... Windoze 95 has some problems dealing with the two in the Dock II at least using a network card. If you're running Warp, make sure the following statement exists somewhere in your config.sys : DEVICE=IBM2SS01.SYS /D - The /D switch is what tells it accomodate the slots in the Dock II as well as the one in your TP. Bill Abt Thinkpad 755CX powered by OS/2 Warp Connect bill_abt@crd.lotus.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 17:39:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23373; Thu, 14 Dec 95 17:39:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25236; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 17:38:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 17:37:04 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25165; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 17:36:58 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA29720; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 14:34:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 14:34:05 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: kevin@warrior.com Cc: "John H. Kim" , tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad Promotion In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i just got off the phone with a sales person at 800/274-4277 x 4 and he had no knowledge at all about the JetEye PC :0 he told me that in order to do 'file transfer from a thinkpad with IR, to a PC' i needed some other product than the JetEye PC, which he stated is for 'doing IR from a PC to a printer'. whatever. doug On Thu, 14 Dec 1995 kevin@warrior.com wrote: > On Thu, 14 Dec 1995 11:49:44 -0500 (EST) John H. Kim wrote: > >JetEye PC from Extended Systems(TM) > > > >JetEye PC is a high speed, wireless data interface that provides a > >"point-and-shoot" infrared connection for desktop computers, thus > >eliminating the cable hassles that get in the way of transferring files > >between your ThinkPad and deskt op computer. With JetEye PC, all you have > >to do is transfer files is point your ThinkPad at JetEye PC and begin your > >file transfer. The JetEye PC receiver automatically establishes a > >connection and gives you quick access to the data on the desktop. > > > >Value: $135.00 > > If you want more specs on this product go to http://warrior.com/extsys. > Extended Systems has asked us to post this information, and we also > sell the JetEye PC. We have 7 left, and if you're on this list I'll > instruct our sales teams to sell these to you for an even $100. If they > give you any flak (on 800/274-4277 x 4) tell them to speak with me. > > The MindPath product is also great... but we don't carry that one yet. > MindPath's contact info is on our ThinkPad Proven section at > http://warrior.com/tpp, if you want their contact info. > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Kevin Prince | Check out the Road Warrior Outpost > kevin@warrior.com | at --> http://warrior.com <-- > 714.418.1400 x101 | Solutions for the Mobile Professional > --------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 18:21:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27012; Thu, 14 Dec 95 18:21:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28754; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 18:20:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 18:18:54 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28624; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 18:18:52 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA08925; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 18:20:01 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 18:19:43 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: Chris Hanson Cc: gjacobs@qualcomm.com, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: PCMCIA slots on Dock II In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 14 Dec 1995, Chris Hanson wrote: > Since my Thinkpad has 2 PCMCIA slots and the dock II has 2, do I get the use > of 4 slots when my thinkpad is docked? Or do the dock slots takeover from > the thinkpad slots? > > You get to use all four of them. caveat: some drivers assume slot 0 or 1, and do not function correctly on the 3rd and 4th slot. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 18:28:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27091; Thu, 14 Dec 95 18:28:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29350; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 18:27:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 18:27:09 -0500 Received: from mail.crl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29270; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 18:27:05 -0500 Received: from crl11.crl.com by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA11320 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 15:25:13 -0800 Received: by crl11.crl.com id AA15222 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 15:24:13 -0800 From: Mark Ng Message-Id: <199512142324.AA15222@crl11.crl.com> Subject: Re: TP760/XFree/800x600 mode line To: djr@mr.picker.com (Don Russell) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 15:24:12 -0800 (PST) Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9512142204.AA09067@alpha14> from "Don Russell" at Dec 14, 95 05:04:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I am looking for an XFree config file that will drive my new >TP760 at 800x600 resolution. Does anyone have such a thing? > >The 760 has the Trident lcd9320 chipset for the display and an >sc1148n Ramdac. > >I am running XFree 3.1 and Linux 1.3.32. Here are a couple of URLs where you might find some info: Yoshiro Mihara's web page "How to 800x600 dots on LCD with X window system" http://www.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp/contrib/sanpei/how2800x600.html Darin Ernst's laptop X web page http://www.castle.net/~darin has an 800x600 XF86Config that might give you a place to start. -- Mark Ng mng@crl.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 18:40:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27757; Thu, 14 Dec 95 18:40:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00238; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 18:39:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 18:37:06 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00111; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 18:37:04 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA01466; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 18:37:16 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 18:37:16 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: TP701 owners? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, Don Whiteside wrote: > I'm perfectly content to have the 701 traffic on the list. So much > crosses over that it's not a hassle for me to delete 100% specific 701 > messages. I got mail from 12 other 701 owners. Since there was no objection to 701 traffic on this list, while there *was* objection to a 701 list only being around for 6 months, I think we're best off keeping 701 traffic here for now. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one jokim@mit.edu that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I have jokim@tuna.mit.edu found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 19:19:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29131; Thu, 14 Dec 95 19:19:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02354; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 19:19:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 19:18:47 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02293; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 19:18:44 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA01493; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 19:19:03 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 19:19:02 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Linux: 16bpp video modes on TP701? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII First, after playing with my 701 active matrix side by side with a monitor, I can state with a fair amount of certainty that the TFT is only capable of displaying 32k colors (5 bits per primary). The TFT shows obvious color gradient contour lines on finely shaded pictures. These lines match an external monitor in 32k color mode. The monitor produces finer contours in 64k and 16M color modes, but the TFT's display remains the same. So most of the time, running in 15bpp (32k color) mode should be sufficient. In fact, 15bpp can often be better than 24bpp since many apps will dither in the former mode but not the latter. Ok. I went and grabbed the alpha XFree86 CT65545 driver: ftp://ftp.biol.tsukuba.ac.jp/pub/X/XFree86/alpha/CT65545plus/ This is truly an alpha because it contains no documentation whatsoever. All it has is a sample XF86Config file for the Toshiba 610 (also CT65545). I'm new to all this business about dot clocks and wasn't able to get it to work. Has anyone else tried this? (I did succeed in scrambling my video. 95% of the time, I was able to recover by using Fn-F1 to enter the BIOS setup. Apparently this resets the video to a non-corrupt state.) I also tried the demo version of the X-inside commercial ($99) server: http://www.xinside.com This worked a little better. It came up in 640x480x8bit mode just fine. It was pretty obvious that this driver was faster than the generic XFree driver, as well it should be since it's supposed to use the accelerated features of the CT65545. But the 15bpp and 16bpp modes were disabled. The documentation said something about hi-color modes being RAMDAC-dependent, and that I should configure the server manually once I figure out the clocks and RAMDAC. So I got stuck again. I tried a DOS video probing utility and it reported the RAMDAC as "internal". No help there. I'd really like to get X running in 15bpp or 16bpp mode. If someone more familiar with this business of clocks can give me a hand, I'd be willing to write up the results and put it on my web site. __________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one jokim@mit.edu that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I have jokim@tuna.mit.edu found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 23:08:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14045; Thu, 14 Dec 95 23:08:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA17222; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 23:07:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 23:04:51 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA16900; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 23:04:44 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA08874; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 20:01:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 20:01:18 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: "John H. Kim" Cc: Bill Bryan , tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Thinkpad Promotion In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i know with the JetEye, you also need transit or lap link already running and installed. There was a version of the JetEye that included lap link for windows, but that line has been discontinued. so you're basically doing a laplink using the IR ports. doug On Thu, 14 Dec 1995, John H. Kim wrote: > Here's a better description of the three most popular (i.e. expensive :) > items in the Thinkpad Promotion: > > JetEye PC from Extended Systems(TM) > > Now you can transfer data between your ThinkPad with an infrared port and > a desktop computer quickly and efficiently using the JetEye PC's infrared > adapter. JetEye eliminates the need to use serial cables when you connect > to a computer which means that you can easily enhance the portability and > functionality of your ThinkPad. And you can also increase your ability to > ge t things done. > > JetEye PC is a high speed, wireless data interface that provides a > "point-and-shoot" infrared connection for desktop computers, thus > eliminating the cable hassles that get in the way of transferring files > between your ThinkPad and deskt op computer. With JetEye PC, all you have > to do is transfer files is point your ThinkPad at JetEye PC and begin your > file transfer. The JetEye PC receiver automatically establishes a > connection and gives you quick access to the data on the desktop. > > Value: $135.00 > > > Mind Path(TM) Remote Control (Model IR50 F/X) > > Unleash the power of your computer and orchestrate dynamic pr esentations > from across a desk or across the room with Mind Path Remote Control. It's > the essential tool you need to give you control of your PC and add > professionalism to any presentation. The infrared Mind Path > receiver--which can be set up in minutes-- plugs into the serial port of > your ThinkPad and lets you use your remote up to 45 feet away. Use the > provided Mind Path Presentation F/X software to add such exciting affects > as Zoom-In, Telestrator and Spotlight. Go forward and backward easily with > the h andy Slideshow buttons. Or enjoy precise cursor control with the > patented MouseDisk(TM) which puts the power of your mouse in the palm of > your hand. Mind Path is the perfect way to add flair to all your > presentations. > > Value: $149.95 > > > Port Compact Carrying Case > > This lightweight, compact carrying case from Port, Inc. is the per fect > way to carry your ThinkPad and basic accessories. Made of premium > ballistic nylon, it has a unique Shock-Absorbing System that secures and > protects your ThinkPad when you're on the go. With a removable pouch that > holds your AC adapter and basic acces sories and a front compartment with > room for additional accessories, files or other business items, it's the > smart choice when you want to take your ThinkPad with you on the road. > > Value $99.00 > > I called IBM PC Direct and asked for the model number and size: > > TPG7000 > 16" x 12" x 5" > 3.9lb > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > John H. Kim The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one > jokim@mit.edu that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I have > jokim@tuna.mit.edu found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov > > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 14 23:57:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16765; Thu, 14 Dec 95 23:57:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20427; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 23:56:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 14 Dec 1995 23:55:31 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20299; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 23:55:22 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA15043; Thu, 14 Dec 95 20:53:43 -0800 Received: by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA03721; Thu, 14 Dec 95 20:13:23 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 20:13:20 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: "Doug Fairclough" Subject: Re: Thinkpad Promotion Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu, "Bill Bryan" , "John H. Kim" In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit On Dec. 14 95, 20:01 PST, "Doug Fairclough" wrote: > i know with the JetEye, you also need transit or lap link already > running and installed. There was a version of the JetEye that > included lap link for windows, but that line has been discontinued. > so you're basically doing a laplink using the IR ports. You don't *have* to have that software. The built in IR port just behaves like a serial port, and the JetEye just hooks into a serial port on the PC (or Mac or whatever). Any software you have that can make use of the serial port can do IR. --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 15 02:56:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27452; Fri, 15 Dec 95 02:56:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04407; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 02:56:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 15 Dec 1995 02:53:57 -0500 Received: from denver.ssds.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04112; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 02:53:55 -0500 Received: from freke.ssds.com (rem_den22.ssds.com [134.127.122.22]) by denver.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) with SMTP id XAA18646 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 1995 23:40:35 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2b8.32.19951215063759.00977244@denver.ssds.com> X-Sender: cds@denver.ssds.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2b8 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 00:37:59 -0600 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson) - SSDS" Subject: Mwave2.00 and Win95 overcommited Greetings, I have been running the MWave 2.0 code on Win95 and my Thinkpad 755CE for some time, but all of a sudden am getting "MWave overcommitted" errors upon starting up a PPP session (I was doing this before with no problems). This just started a few days ago and, although the modem keeps working, it becomes VERY unstable. If I acknowledge the error (overcommitted - stop an application and acknowledge), I end up having to reboot to get the modem back. I have made no changes to the system other than using a new theme about 1-2 weeks ago. Any clues as to how to track this down, or what may be causing it? Regards, -=Chris -- ( ( | ( Chris Liljenstolpe ) ) (| ), inc. SSDS, Inc; 8400 Normandale Lake Blvd.; Suite 993 business driven Bloomington, MN 55437; technology solutions TEL 612.921.2392 FAX 612.921.2395 Um Yah Yah! From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 15 09:32:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21289; Fri, 15 Dec 95 09:32:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03973; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 09:32:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 15 Dec 1995 09:29:23 -0500 Received: from peritus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03693; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 09:29:20 -0500 Received: from tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com (tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com [199.26.191.60]) by peritus.com (sendmail 8.6.12/Peritus-3.0) with ESMTP id JAA09816; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 09:17:17 -0500 Received: from localhost by tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com (sendmail 8.6.9/Peritus-2.0) id JAA12993; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 09:23:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199512151423.JAA12993@tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com> To: "Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson) - SSDS" Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Mwave2.00 and Win95 overcommited In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 15 Dec 1995 00:37:59 CST." <2.2b8.32.19951215063759.00977244@denver.ssds.com> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 09:23:11 -0500 From: Don Markuson [Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson) wrote:] -> I have been running the MWave 2.0 code on Win95 and my Thinkpad -> 755CE for some time, but all of a sudden am getting "MWave overcommitted" -> errors upon starting up a PPP session (I was doing this before with no -> problems). This just started a few days ago and, although the modem keeps -> working, it becomes VERY unstable. If I acknowledge the error -> (overcommitted - stop an application and acknowledge), I end up having to -> reboot to get the modem back. -> -> I have made no changes to the system other than using a new theme -> about 1-2 weeks ago. Any clues as to how to track this down, or what may be -> causing it? Does your new theme, per chance, include Sound Events? Try disabling these from the Desktop Themes control-panel applet and see if the problem goes away... ..Don Markuson dmarkuson@peritus.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 15 12:07:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12916; Fri, 15 Dec 95 12:07:02 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17935; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 12:04:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 15 Dec 1995 12:00:58 -0500 Received: from peritus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17749; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 12:00:53 -0500 Received: from tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com (tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com [199.26.191.60]) by peritus.com (sendmail 8.6.12/Peritus-3.0) with ESMTP id LAA12913; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 11:43:48 -0500 Received: from localhost by tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com (sendmail 8.6.9/Peritus-2.0) id LAA13242; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 11:49:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199512151649.LAA13242@tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com> To: Mike Dixon Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re[4]: native Win95 CD-ROM access on 755CD -- POSSIBLE SOLUTION Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 11:49:42 -0500 From: Don Markuson This deserves to be shared for others experiencing similar difficulties. ------- Forwarded Message Return-Path: scottn@fulcrum.com Received: from peritus.com by tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com (sendmail 8.6.9/Peritus-2.0) id KAA13171; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 10:49:18 -0500 From: scottn@fulcrum.com Received: from internet.fultech.com (gateway.fultech.com [198.53.216.2]) by peritus.com (sendmail 8.6.12/Peritus-3.0) with ESMTP for id KAA11513; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 10:36:00 -0500 Received: from wayne.fultech.com (wayne.fultech.com [172.16.10.17]) by internet with SMTP (DuhMail/2.0) id KAA17337; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 10:33:00 -0500 Received: from smtplink.fultech.com by wayne.fultech.com (4.1/) id AA13176; Fri, 15 Dec 95 10:35:33 EST Received: from ccMail by smtplink.fultech.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA819052579; Fri, 15 Dec 95 10:27:24 EST Date: Fri, 15 Dec 95 10:27:24 EST Message-Id: <9511158190.AA819052579@smtplink.fultech.com> To: Don Markuson Subject: Re[4]: native Win95 CD-ROM access on 755CD Don, As unbelievable as it sounds, I tried what you suggested. I restarted two or three times, then I tried a full shutdown. Upon powering-up and rebooting, low and behold, the CD-ROM drive was there--without any real-mode drivers loaded! Baffling, but it got the desired results! Thanks very much for the suggestion. Scott ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Re[2]: native Win95 CD-ROM access on 755CD Author: Don Markuson at SMTPLINK-FULCRUM Date: 95.12.15 9:34 am - -> Thanks for responding. You are right--I have tried the instructions - -> in the IBM document. When I comment-out the driver and MSCDEX lines, - -> the CD-ROM drive disappears the next time I reboot. I am running the - -> 1.3 BIOS, but perhaps I don't have Plug and Play enabled. Do you know - -> how I can check this? I don't think it's something that's turned on or off--the BIOS is just supposed to do it. Have you tried rebooting say 3 times? I've found that Win95 can sometimes take a few reboots to fully believe something new is really there. It's uncanny, but I've observed this too many times to believe it's coincidence! ..Don ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 15 12:11:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13032; Fri, 15 Dec 95 12:11:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18553; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 12:09:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 15 Dec 1995 12:08:59 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18464; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 12:08:57 -0500 Received: from [128.125.223.139] (comserv-f-67.usc.edu [128.125.223.139]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) with SMTP id JAA13110; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 09:08:47 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 09:17:22 -0800 To: "John H. Kim" , tp750@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: Linux: 16bpp video modes on TP701? At 7:19 PM 12/14/95, John H. Kim wrote: >First, after playing with my 701 active matrix side by side with a >monitor, I can state with a fair amount of certainty that the TFT >is only capable of displaying 32k colors (5 bits per primary). The >TFT shows obvious color gradient contour lines on finely shaded >pictures. These lines match an external monitor in 32k color mode. >The monitor produces finer contours in 64k and 16M color modes, but >the TFT's display remains the same. So most of the time, running >in 15bpp (32k color) mode should be sufficient. In fact, 15bpp can >often be better than 24bpp since many apps will dither in the former >mode but not the latter. Actually (and I can't remember the source--think it was an IBM guy who worked on the 701's that John referred me to), the 701 screen supposedly does 256K colors in the 16.7M color mode. As for me, I just run it in 32K colors generally--looks quite beautiful to me, but then I save the desktop publishing for a separate desktop machine (where I run in 16.7M colors & higher resolutions). Oddly enough, the 701 Manual (or some associated document) suggests that running in 32K color mode as opposed to 256 color mode extends the battery life slightly. Strange, eh? ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Home Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 15 12:45:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18275; Fri, 15 Dec 95 12:45:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21802; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 12:44:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 15 Dec 1995 12:43:55 -0500 Received: from vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21699; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 12:43:49 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id MAA14483; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 12:40:53 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0547; Fri, 15 Dec 95 12:40:15 -0800 Message-Id: <9512152040.AA0547@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 76AEA7B8794C7CEC85256293006031EB; Fri, 15 Dec 95 12:40:13 To: "Dennis L. Bark" Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 15 Dec 95 12:39:15 EDT Subject: Re: .dsk files X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain dennis sez: "....Does anyone know .dsk extension files on the 755 ce are used for anything besides installation? I have several mg that I would like to clear off. Thank you! Dennis Bark at Hoover....." ~~~~~ if you're referring to the ones in the \disketts directory, no, they are not used for anything other than creating the installation diskettes. after that, you can safely delete the entire directory, along with the \factory directory, assuming you're confident of the reliability of the diskettes. i clean a ton of crap off these machines when they come in: \welcome, \screens, \compel, \followfx, \taxi, \ccmobile, \prodigy, etc. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 15 13:53:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00372; Fri, 15 Dec 95 13:53:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27001; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 13:52:41 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 15 Dec 1995 13:50:54 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26866; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 13:50:47 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id KAA27207; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 10:50:36 -0800 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma026384; Fri Dec 15 10:45:42 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (pctedf.cadence.com [158.140.56.21]) by cds9258.cadence.com (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id KAA22770; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 10:45:39 -0800 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 10:45:39 -0800 Message-Id: <199512151845.KAA22770@cds9258.cadence.com> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson) - SSDS" From: Ted Frederick Subject: Re: Mwave2.00 and Win95 overcommited Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Keep in mind that the MWave cannot do both MIDI/Wav/SoundBlaster functions and v.34 (28.8kbps) at the same time. The IBM tech support kid said "Hey, what do you want? You got a modem and sound board in a laptop." "Yipee!" I said. "So does your competition..." I went ahead and got a PCMCIA Ethernet/v.34 Modem combo card which frees-up my MWave to do the *important* sound stuff ;] -Ted At 12:37 AM 12/15/95 -0600, Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson) - SSDS wrote: > > I have been running the MWave 2.0 code on Win95 and my Thinkpad >755CE for some time, but all of a sudden am getting "MWave overcommitted" >errors upon starting up a PPP session (I was doing this before with no >problems). This just started a few days ago and, although the modem keeps >working, it becomes VERY unstable. If I acknowledge the error >(overcommitted - stop an application and acknowledge), I end up having to >reboot to get the modem back. > > I have made no changes to the system other than using a new theme >about 1-2 weeks ago. Any clues as to how to track this down, or what may be >causing it? > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 15 14:22:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07391; Fri, 15 Dec 95 14:22:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29226; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 14:21:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 15 Dec 1995 14:20:18 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29034; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 14:20:13 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA19755; Fri, 15 Dec 95 11:19:38 -0800 Received: by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA00424; Fri, 15 Dec 95 11:18:45 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 11:18:43 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: "Ted Frederick" Subject: Re: Mwave2.00 and Win95 overcommited Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu, "Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson) - SSDS" In-Reply-To: <199512151845.kaa22770@cds9258.cadence.com> References: <199512151845.kaa22770@cds9258.cadence.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I haven't been able to use the MWave modem *at all* under Win95 since I upgraded to the 1.40 BIOS. Anytime something opens COM2 to talk to it, it hangs the computer, and the only way out is to push the reset button on the back. Used to work fine when I had the 1.30 BIOS. --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 15 19:04:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13184; Fri, 15 Dec 95 19:04:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA23613; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 19:02:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 15 Dec 1995 18:57:41 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA23324; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 18:57:38 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id PAA26616 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 15:57:30 -0800 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma027576; Fri Dec 15 10:53:35 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (pctedf.cadence.com [158.140.56.21]) by cds9258.cadence.com (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id KAA23535 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 10:53:29 -0800 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 10:53:29 -0800 Message-Id: <199512151853.KAA23535@cds9258.cadence.com> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Ted Frederick Subject: Other display cards with Dock II? Hi all, Anyone had any luck using a 3rd party ISA card for 1024x768x16bpp or higher in a Dock II with an external monitor (of course). I'm looking at an ATI 4Meg SVGA board (ISA) that does 16-24bpp at 1280x1024. I'm just wondering how much slower I can expect the video will be using the 16bit bus over the 32-bit? VLB video internal to the 755 CDV. Any thoughts? -Ted *********************************** Ted Frederick Strategic Programs Manager Design & Data Management Practice Voice: 408.894.2275 Fax: 408.894.3484 tedf@cadence.com ********************************** "Are we not drawn onward, we few, drawn onward to new era?" From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 15 22:06:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21994; Fri, 15 Dec 95 22:06:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04905; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 22:05:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 15 Dec 1995 22:02:46 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04726; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 22:02:43 -0500 Received: from [128.125.224.193] (comserv-g-11.usc.edu [128.125.223.155]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.2/usc) with SMTP id TAA02266; Fri, 15 Dec 1995 19:02:30 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 19:11:06 -0800 To: Ted Frederick , tp750@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: Other display cards with Dock II? At 10:53 AM 12/15/95, Ted Frederick wrote: >Hi all, > >Anyone had any luck using a 3rd party ISA card for 1024x768x16bpp or higher >in a Dock II with an external monitor (of course). > >I'm looking at an ATI 4Meg SVGA board (ISA) that does 16-24bpp at 1280x1024. > >I'm just wondering how much slower I can expect the video will be using the >16bit bus over the 32-bit? VLB video internal to the 755 CDV. > >Any thoughts? > >-Ted I can't comment on the Dock II specifically, but depending on the card, you'll likely notice no difference between ISA and a local bus version (assuming the card itself is accelerated). I remember reading an article about this a few years ago. Basically for an unaccelerated card, Local bus was critical, but acceleration on the card itself made far more of a difference than whether it was local bus or not. My guess is you're looking at an ATI card that uses the Mach 64 chip. If so, I highly doubt you'll be disappointed by its performance, even if its ISA. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Home Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 16 06:18:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21253; Sat, 16 Dec 95 06:18:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA08643; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 06:10:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 16 Dec 1995 06:07:22 -0500 Received: from kalypso.cybercom.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA08564; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 06:07:19 -0500 Received: from death-star (chan4@scunix4.harvard.edu [140.247.31.44]) by kalypso.cybercom.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA29388 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 02:27:29 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2b7.32.19951216072127.00735ec4@pop.fas.harvard.edu> X-Sender: chan4@pop.fas.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2b7 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 02:21:27 -0500 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Derek V. Chan" Subject: Do I still need this line in my config.sys in win 95? REM ************************************************************* REM * Do not specify the memory range within C000:0-C0FF:F or * REM * D000:0-D0FF:F for PC cards. * REM ************************************************************* DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS rem device=c:\scsi\aspi2ibm.sys /d rem device=c:\scsi\aspidisk.sys DOS=HIGH,UMB DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS X=C800-CFFF <---------THIS LINE!!!! DEVICEHIGH=C:\IBMVESA\VESA.EXE DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\DRVSPACE.SYS /MOVE Well, rather, do I need to still do a noems exclusion? And what about the other exclusion for the memory ranges? I'm also using 32-bit PCMCIA drivers... ****************************************************************************** "Opinions are like assholes -- everybody's got one" Clint Eastwood, THE DEAD POOL Derek V. Chan (chan4@fas.harvard.edu, dchan@cybercom.net) ****************************************************************************** From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 16 06:52:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23602; Sat, 16 Dec 95 06:52:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA10944; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 06:52:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 16 Dec 1995 06:50:27 -0500 Received: from cc.Helsinki.FI by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA10805; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 06:50:24 -0500 Received: from hylk.Helsinki.FI by hylk.Helsinki.FI (PMDF V4.3-13 #1) id <01HYVL161L408X32UR@hylk.Helsinki.FI>; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 13:51:01 +0200 (EET) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 13:51:01 +0200 (EET) From: Teemu =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=F6tt=F6nen?= Subject: Where to buy 16 MB for Thinkpad 750C ? To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <01HYVL1636ZM8X32UR@hylk.Helsinki.FI> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hi, can anyone suggest prices and places to buy a 16 MB card for the Thinkpad 750C ? I've got an 8 MB card, but would like to upgrade to 20 MB total RAM. The best price I was quoted here in Finland was $1000. Also, any idea if there are such 16 MB cards available that could be used in a newer Thinkpad also, like the 755 line ? I'd like to protect my investment :-) Thanks, Teemu M=F6tt=F6nen (teemu.mottonen@helsinki.fi) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 16 07:03:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23634; Sat, 16 Dec 95 07:03:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA11332; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 07:02:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 16 Dec 1995 07:01:54 -0500 Received: from virginia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA11272; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 07:01:51 -0500 Received: by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa05299; 16 Dec 95 7:01 EST Received: from faraday.clas.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa02656; 16 Dec 95 5:11 EST Received: (from jmb5b@localhost) by faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (8.7.1/8.6.6) id FAA167475 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 05:10:21 -0500 From: "John M. Bozeman" Message-Id: <199512161010.FAA167475@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU> Subject: MIDI on 750?? To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 05:10:20 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, I see ads saying that the IBM TP701 has MIDI capability. Does the TP750? How easy is it to set up? Thanks, John Bozeman From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 16 11:27:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09619; Sat, 16 Dec 95 11:27:52 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24467; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 11:27:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 16 Dec 1995 11:24:36 -0500 Received: from armon.rain.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24268; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 11:24:34 -0500 Received: by armon.rain.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0tQzMi-0001BMC; Sat, 16 Dec 95 08:21 PST Message-Id: From: mehdi@armon.rain.com (Mehdi Attaran) Subject: Re: PCMCIA slots on Dock II To: Bill_Abt/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com (Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus) Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 08:21:40 -0800 (PST) Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9512142114.AA25650@internet1.lotus.com> from "Bill Abt/CAM/Lotus" at Dec 14, 95 04:06:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > You get to use all four if you're running Warp .... Windoze 95 has some > problems dealing with the two in the Dock II at least using a network card. I've been using a 3COM 3C589B Ethernet card in my Dock II's PCMCIA slot under WIN95 for quite a while... ever since it was called Chicago! I've changes TP's several times, and have tried this with TP 750, 755CE, 755CD, and now a TP755CX. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mehdi Attaran mehdi@armon.rain.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!armon!mehdi | | Data: (503) 642-3270 Voice: (503) 649-0719 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 16 11:43:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11024; Sat, 16 Dec 95 11:43:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25382; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 11:42:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 16 Dec 1995 11:42:15 -0500 Received: from Starbase.NeoSoft.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25310; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 11:42:12 -0500 Received: from hac016.ep.hess.com (ottoman@starbase.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.6.26]) by Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA27664; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 10:41:01 -0600 (CST) Received: by hac016.ep.hess.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BACBA3.DA161CE0@hac016.ep.hess.com>; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 10:47:10 -0600 Message-Id: <01BACBA3.DA161CE0@hac016.ep.hess.com> From: "Otto J. Helweg" To: Ted Frederick Cc: "tp750@cs.utk.edu" Subject: RE: MWave for Win95 Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 10:46:04 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just searched high and low on IBM's ftp, web, and BBS site and found no such file. -otto ottoman@neosoft.com ---------- From: Chris Osborn[SMTP:fozztexx@marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 1995 1:38 PM To: Ted Frederick Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: MWave for Win95 On Dec. 14 95, 11:30 PST, "Ted Frederick" wrote: > I don't know what the original poster found but it's unlikely that it was > the Win95 MWave driver. It was probably the 2.0 drivers, and then the > Beavis assumed that it was for Win95. I dunno. Here's the message he sent below. Does *anyone* have this file? If so, send it to me, and I'll put in on my anonymous ftp site. --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Dennis Park Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 12:33:59 -0800 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Mwave for Win95 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Just wanted to let everyone know that the Mwave drivers for Windows 95 is now available from IBM's BBS. The file is called: MW952101.EXE (MWAVE Windows 95 Drivers) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 16 18:40:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06344; Sat, 16 Dec 95 18:40:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19401; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 18:40:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 16 Dec 1995 18:36:37 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA19183; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 18:36:28 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Sun, 17 Dec 95 00:36:20 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: os2 driver for AHA 1460 PCMCIA SCSI? To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 00:36:20 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text It seems that Adaptec does not provide an os2 driver for the 1460 PCMCIA- SCSI adapter (I couldn't find it on their ftp site). What driver do those of you running Warp use? Thanks Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 16 22:30:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19175; Sat, 16 Dec 95 22:30:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01260; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 22:29:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 16 Dec 1995 22:24:49 -0500 Received: from cc.Helsinki.FI by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA00924; Sat, 16 Dec 1995 22:24:46 -0500 Received: from root@kantti.Helsinki.FI by hylk.Helsinki.FI (PMDF V4.3-13 #1) id <01HYWI4LSTGW8X3FM3@hylk.Helsinki.FI>; Sun, 17 Dec 1995 05:25:24 +0200 (EET) Received: from mik.uky.edu (madonna.mik.uky.edu [128.163.117.230]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.12+Emil1.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA13958; Sun, 17 Dec 1995 05:24:24 +0200 Received: from nx55.mik.uky.edu by mik.uky.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA22685; Sat, 16 Dec 95 22:24:20 -0500 Received: by nx55.mik.uky.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0X) id AA01528; Sat, 16 Dec 95 22:24:20 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 22:24:20 -0500 From: rodney d slone Subject: Re: Where to buy 16 MB for Thinkpad 750C ? To: Teemu =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=F6tt=F6nen?= , cs.utk.edu!tp750@cc.Helsinki.FI Message-Id: <9512170324.AA22685@mik.uky.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.1.1 5/02/90) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is a palce in Aliso Viejo, California called memory something or other that I got a 16 meg for less than 650 dollars. They send it cod in three days if i remember correctly. Good service, I reccomend them. Sorry I cant remember the name, it is in computer shopper, anyone know? -- Rodney Daryl Slone http://www.engr.uky.edu/~rdslon01 Electrical Engineering Grad Student / "Grounds are pretty common." - me University of Kentucky / Nail here [] for a new monitor. e-mail: rdslon01@mik.uky.edu / 94.3% of all statistics are 87% worthless. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 17 13:46:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19430; Sun, 17 Dec 95 13:46:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25983; Sun, 17 Dec 1995 13:45:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 17 Dec 1995 13:41:37 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25787; Sun, 17 Dec 1995 13:41:30 -0500 Received: from [128.125.223.205] (comserv-g-61.usc.edu [128.125.223.205]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.2/usc) with SMTP id KAA00471; Sun, 17 Dec 1995 10:41:22 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 10:50:00 -0800 To: "John M. Bozeman" , tp750@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: MIDI on 750?? At 5:10 AM 12/16/95, John M. Bozeman wrote: >Hey, > >I see ads saying that the IBM TP701 has MIDI capability. Does >the TP750? How easy is it to set up? > > Thanks, > > John Bozeman By "MIDI Capability", I believe it merely means that both these machines can *play* MIDI files through the speaker--that's it. I don't believe there is any way to physically hook up MIDI cables and control musical instruments with it (perhaps a PCMCIA card?). But the drivers to play MIDI should have come with your machine. Oh, and the 750--it doesn't play MIDI files very well. Sounds *very* "tinny" (i.e. like the sound is coming out of a tin can). I was pleasantly surprised with the MIDI sound the 701 was capable of though. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Home Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 17 13:50:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19606; Sun, 17 Dec 95 13:50:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26187; Sun, 17 Dec 1995 13:50:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 17 Dec 1995 13:49:23 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26097; Sun, 17 Dec 1995 13:49:21 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA07870; Sun, 17 Dec 1995 13:50:42 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 13:50:24 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: TP750 Cc: Ted Frederick Subject: Re: Other display cards with Dock II? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 15 Dec 1995, Randy Whittle wrote: > My guess is you're looking at an ATI card that uses the Mach 64 > chip. If so, I highly doubt you'll be disappointed by its performance, > even if its ISA. I would suggest it's more likely you'll be dissapointed in ATI when they replace the 64 with something more snazzy. When I had an 8 bit card, their interest in new drivers and support seemed to evaporate the moment they hit the 32. Same again when they made the 64 - they have yet to update their unimpressibe drivers for Lose95 and the Mach32 series. I understand that their money isn't made supporting little ol' me who paid $325 for the Ultra Pro several years ago, but that doesn't make it less annoying.... I'd take a long look at some alternatives before I bought another ATI. It's been reliable, but not impressive. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 17 16:59:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28586; Sun, 17 Dec 95 16:59:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08130; Sun, 17 Dec 1995 16:58:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 17 Dec 1995 16:56:54 -0500 Received: from sparty.surf.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07935; Sun, 17 Dec 1995 16:56:48 -0500 Received: from sandy.sandy.com ([206.14.89.139]) by sparty.surf.com (8.6.12/CN-CONFIG-0.3) with SMTP id NAA18889 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 1995 13:56:00 -0800 Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 13:56:00 -0800 Message-Id: <199512172156.NAA18889@sparty.surf.com> X-Sender: sandy@sandy.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Sandy Meltzer Subject: 760CD 120Mhz Pentium version - When?? Hi all, I'm anxious to buy and have business needs for IBM's new 760CD 120Mhz Pentium ThinkPad. However, although it has been announced, it appears IBM hasn't even assigned a part number to this model yet and I'm curious if anyone here has heard when the 760CD-120 might become available?? I hope this isn't another of IBM's famous "announce it now...ship 6 months from now...maybe" marketing plans. ;-) I'm also interested to know if anyone has received a new 760 with Win95 pre-loaded instead of the usual OS/2-Win3.1 setup. I know IBM is offering the Win95 option in their sales literature, but I've heard rumors that no one has seen a Win95 based 760 ship yet or will ever see one ship. Comments? I'd appreciate your feedback. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 17 22:17:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16787; Sun, 17 Dec 95 22:17:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27347; Sun, 17 Dec 1995 22:17:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 17 Dec 1995 22:14:03 -0500 Received: from denver.ssds.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA27013; Sun, 17 Dec 1995 22:13:58 -0500 Received: from freke.ssds.com (pc_cds_vie.vienna.ssds.com [134.127.64.53]) by denver.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) with SMTP id UAA18667; Sun, 17 Dec 1995 20:11:52 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2b8.32.19951218030903.0095ab4c@denver.ssds.com> X-Sender: cds@denver.ssds.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2b8 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 21:09:03 -0600 To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us From: "Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson) - SSDS" Subject: Re: Mwave2.00 and Win95 overcommited Cc: "Ted Frederick" , tp750@cs.utk.edu Greetings, Well, I seem to be working under the 1.40 BIOS. BTW - the consensus is that, while the MWAVE could do V32bis and sound together, it can't do V34 and sounds. Regard,s -+Chris At 11:18 95/12/15 PST, the sage, Chris Osborn, uttered these words: (>I haven't been able to use the MWave modem *at all* under Win95 (>since I upgraded to the 1.40 BIOS. Anytime something opens COM2 to (>talk to it, it hangs the computer, and the only way out is to push (>the reset button on the back. (> (>Used to work fine when I had the 1.30 BIOS. (> (>--- (>Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 (>Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 (>2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 (> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated (> (> (> -- ( ( | ( Chris Liljenstolpe ) ) (| ), inc. SSDS, Inc; 8400 Normandale Lake Blvd.; Suite 993 business driven Bloomington, MN 55437; technology solutions TEL 612.921.2392 FAX 612.921.2395 Um Yah Yah! From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 17 22:45:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18901; Sun, 17 Dec 95 22:45:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29059; Sun, 17 Dec 1995 22:44:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 17 Dec 1995 22:41:47 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28972; Sun, 17 Dec 1995 22:41:44 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA07244; Sun, 17 Dec 1995 19:39:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 19:39:03 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: "Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson) - SSDS" Cc: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us, Ted Frederick , tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Mwave2.00 and Win95 overcommited In-Reply-To: <2.2b8.32.19951218030903.0095ab4c@denver.ssds.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII doesnt that kinda like, suck ? if you cant use multiple functions on the DSP simultaneously, whats the point ? in order to do real time audio on the web (its new, so maybe not a lot have tried), but i now must get a pcmcia modem in order to hear sounds. is it always going to be this way ? doug On Sun, 17 Dec 1995, Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson) - SSDS wrote: > Greetings, > > Well, I seem to be working under the 1.40 BIOS. BTW - the consensus > is that, while the MWAVE could do V32bis and sound together, it can't do V34 > and sounds. > > Regard,s > -+Chris > > At 11:18 95/12/15 PST, the sage, Chris Osborn, uttered these words: > (>I haven't been able to use the MWave modem *at all* under Win95 > (>since I upgraded to the 1.40 BIOS. Anytime something opens COM2 to > (>talk to it, it hangs the computer, and the only way out is to push > (>the reset button on the back. > (> > (>Used to work fine when I had the 1.30 BIOS. > (> > (>--- > (>Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 > (>Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 > (>2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 > (> MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated > (> > (> > (> > -- > ( ( | ( Chris Liljenstolpe > ) ) (| ), inc. SSDS, Inc; 8400 Normandale Lake Blvd.; Suite 993 > business driven Bloomington, MN 55437; > technology solutions TEL 612.921.2392 FAX 612.921.2395 Um Yah Yah! > > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 17 23:14:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19847; Sun, 17 Dec 95 23:14:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01142; Sun, 17 Dec 1995 23:13:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 17 Dec 1995 23:12:56 -0500 Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01050; Sun, 17 Dec 1995 23:12:47 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 17 Dec 95 23:12 EST From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Msg of Sun, 17 Dec 1995 00:36:20 +0100 (MET) from eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: os2 driver for AHA 1460 PCMCIA SCSI? From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 00:36:20 +0100 (MET) It seems that Adaptec does not provide an os2 driver for the 1460 PCMCIA- SCSI adapter (I couldn't find it on their ftp site). What driver do those of you running Warp use? Under Warp, you should install SCSI support for the AHA-152x adapter, then replace the file "\os2\boot\aha152x.add" with the updated version available from the adaptec ftp site. The updated driver is stored in the "os2" directory -- I think the full path is "/pub/BBS/os2/" or something similar. Caveat: The current version of the driver on their site has a serious bug -- if you boot the machine and the card isn't plugged in, OS/2 will crash with a trap. Adaptec claims that they are working on a fix. The previous version of the driver did not have this bug, but it doesn't work on some recent machines (in particular, the TP760); I've been using the previous driver for many months on a TP755C with no trouble. If you want the previous driver, let me know and I'll put it on our ftp site. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 17 23:19:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20271; Sun, 17 Dec 95 23:19:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01567; Sun, 17 Dec 1995 23:18:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 17 Dec 1995 23:16:26 -0500 Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01325; Sun, 17 Dec 1995 23:16:17 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 17 Dec 95 23:16 EST From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: djr@mr.picker.com Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Msg of Thu, 14 Dec 1995 17:04:25 -0500 from djr@mr.picker.com (Don Russell) Subject: TP760/XFree/800x600 mode line From: djr@mr.picker.com (Don Russell) Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 17:04:25 -0500 I am looking for an XFree config file that will drive my new TP760 at 800x600 resolution. Does anyone have such a thing? The 760 has the Trident lcd9320 chipset for the display and an sc1148n Ramdac. I am running XFree 3.1 and Linux 1.3.32. Any help will be welcome. Thanks. You will need XFree 3.1.2 and the beta-released SVGA server from XFree 3.1.2A. Prior to this release, you will be stuck with VGA support. All of this software is currently available from ftp.xfree86.org. Once you are upgraded to this software, I can supply you with a config file that works (generated by my friend Hardy Meyer for his 760C). From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 18 09:02:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27406; Mon, 18 Dec 95 09:02:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA11610; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 09:01:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 18 Dec 1995 08:58:09 -0500 Received: from nrcnet0.nrc.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11291; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 08:58:06 -0500 Received: from coursmtp.nrc.ca by nrcnet0.nrc.ca with SMTP id AA06757 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 18 Dec 1995 08:58:03 -0500 Received: by coursmtp.nrc.ca with Microsoft Mail id <30D57376@coursmtp.nrc.ca>; Mon, 18 Dec 95 08:58:14 EST From: "Oleskiw, Myron" To: TP750 Subject: Re: MIDI on 750?? Date: Mon, 18 Dec 95 08:57:00 EST Message-Id: <30D57376@coursmtp.nrc.ca> Encoding: 51 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I've been using my TP750C with MIDI for over one year to interact with an electronic keyboard. The hardware that I bought to interface the TP750 with the keyboard was the MENOTE parallel/MIDI interface box. It hooks into the parallel port of the TP750 using a standard parallel cable. It then allows MIDI IN and MIDI OUT to MIDI devices like the keyboard. The MENOTE box must be plugged into the parallel port when you boot Windows (or WIN95) so that the drivers initialize correctly. You can then use Windows software to send MIDI code to the MIDI device or alternatively, "record" MIDI information output from the keyboard. I bought the device for about $100US and would highly recommend it as an excellent entry-level device into the world of electronic music generation/recording. If you want more information, E-mail me. Myron Oleskiw myron.oleskiw@nrc.ca ---------- From: owner-tp750 To: John M. Bozeman; tp750 Subject: Re: MIDI on 750?? Date: Sunday, December 17, 1995 10:50 At 5:10 AM 12/16/95, John M. Bozeman wrote: >Hey, > >I see ads saying that the IBM TP701 has MIDI capability. Does >the TP750? How easy is it to set up? > > Thanks, > > John Bozeman By "MIDI Capability", I believe it merely means that both these machines can *play* MIDI files through the speaker--that's it. I don't believe there is any way to physically hook up MIDI cables and control musical instruments with it (perhaps a PCMCIA card?). But the drivers to play MIDI should have come with your machine. Oh, and the 750--it doesn't play MIDI files very well. Sounds *very* "tinny" (i.e. like the sound is coming out of a tin can). I was pleasantly surprised with the MIDI sound the 701 was capable of though. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Home Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 18 09:44:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29559; Mon, 18 Dec 95 09:44:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15235; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 09:43:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 18 Dec 1995 09:42:55 -0500 Received: from rigel.lmt.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15176; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 09:42:53 -0500 Received: from Leonardo.LMT.Com by rigel.lmt.com with SMTP id AA04953 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 18 Dec 1995 08:42:23 -0600 Received: from LEONARDO/SMTPQUEUE by leonardo.lmt.com (Mercury 1.13); Mon, 18 Dec 95 8:42:24 GMT-6 Received: from SMTPQUEUE by LEONARDO (Mercury 1.13); Mon, 18 Dec 95 8:42:20 GMT-6 From: "Chris Schumann" Organization: LaserMaster Technologies R&D Divn. To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 08:42:12 CST6CDT Subject: Re: MIDI on 750?? Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-Id: > From: "John M. Bozeman" > Subject: MIDI on 750?? > To: tp750@cs.utk.edu > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 05:10:20 -0500 (EST) > > Hey, > > I see ads saying that the IBM TP701 has MIDI capability. Does > the TP750? How easy is it to set up? > > Thanks, > > John Bozeman The software from IBM that allows the 750 to play MIDI are quite lame. I'm amazed at what it CAN do, but I'm not amazed with how it sounds, or the load on the system when in use. I happen to have a Yamaha MIDI tone generator that connects to the serial port, and doubles as a MIDI interface to other instruments. Now if I could only get the MIDI stuff and Netscape Navigator to run smoothly at the same time in my meager 4MB of RAM... Chris From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 18 10:32:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00621; Mon, 18 Dec 95 10:32:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19290; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 10:31:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 18 Dec 1995 10:29:09 -0500 Received: from shrsys.hslc.org by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA18990; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 10:29:05 -0500 Received: by shrsys.hslc.org (MX V4.1 AXP) id 12; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 10:29:23 EST Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 10:29:23 EST From: "Dennis J. Gormley" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <0099B0BC.29AABE43.12@shrsys.hslc.org> Subject: Re: MIDI on 750?? On 18-DEC-1995 09:44:56.03, CHRISSC@leonardo.lmt.com wrote: > Now if I could only get the MIDI stuff and Netscape Navigator to run > smoothly at the same time in my meager 4MB of RAM... > > Chris Good luck! On my desktop PC, Master Track Pro would continually lock up until I boosted up to 8MB. My family learned to love it when that one chord would play sustained at full volume until I rebooted! \ Dennis J. Gormley Tel: (215) 222-1532 \\ Operations Manager Fax: (215) 222-0416 \\\\ Health Sciences Libraries Consortium Int: gormley@hslc.org \\\\\\ 3600 Market Street, Suite 550 H S L C Philadelphia, PA 19104-2646 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 18 11:27:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09744; Mon, 18 Dec 95 11:27:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA24242; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 11:26:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 18 Dec 1995 11:25:04 -0500 Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23897; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 11:25:00 -0500 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id KAA03021 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 10:24:48 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2b10.32.19951218162446.00ab6698@serv0.cae.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2b10 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 10:24:46 -0600 To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: Re: Mwave2.00 and Win95 overcommited At 10:45 AM 12/15/95 -0800, you wrote: >Keep in mind that the MWave cannot do both MIDI/Wav/SoundBlaster functions >and v.34 (28.8kbps) at the same time. The IBM tech support kid said "Hey, >what do you want? You got a modem and sound board in a laptop." "Yipee!" I >said. "So does your competition..." > >I went ahead and got a PCMCIA Ethernet/v.34 Modem combo card which frees-up >my MWave to do the *important* sound stuff ;] > >-Ted This is not true. i do Wav sound and MIDI (about 8 voices) while connected at 28.8baud on my thinkpad 755CE. i also can use Internet Phone successfully, which both utilizes the 28.8 modem and obviously WAV sound at the same time. i am using win95, MWAVE 2, and run a plus-pack "theme" which has sound events. 98% of the time i have no problems using the modem at 28.8 and using the sound events at the same time. sometimes, very rarely, after i dial-in, my sound events "go away", i get similar problems as mentioned below, and the machine becomes very sluggish when trying to open up new menus. i think i have detected a pattern to all this (not certain however): here is what i do to avoid problems: 1) before using the modem, make certain a "sound-event" has been triggered at least once in your win95 session. (press the Start button, whatever). it seems like you want MWAVE to have to spit out at least one WAV sound before using the 28.8 modem (perhaps so it loads the WAV sound code first?) 2) do _not_ trigger any sound events while the modem is dialing and negotiating a carrier; i.e. patiently wait and don't be mouse clicking while the modem is connecting. once you are fully connected, then continue your work. 3) i think i have had worse luck when i try using modem/sound together after i bring the machine up out of "hibernate" mode than when i do a "real" power up (i.e. give a chance for MWAVE to boot up clean). hope this helps you out. i have actually been very please with my sound capabilities while running the V.34 modem; it actaully works better for me than the older version of the MWAVE software did running just a 14.4 modem.... (back then i could not run any MIDI with the modem, but with the new MWAVE software even MIDI works while I am using the modem at 28.8, just with a reduced number of simultaneous voices). Todd > >At 12:37 AM 12/15/95 -0600, Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson) - SSDS wrote: >> >> I have been running the MWave 2.0 code on Win95 and my Thinkpad >>755CE for some time, but all of a sudden am getting "MWave overcommitted" >>errors upon starting up a PPP session (I was doing this before with no >>problems). This just started a few days ago and, although the modem keeps >>working, it becomes VERY unstable. If I acknowledge the error >>(overcommitted - stop an application and acknowledge), I end up having to >>reboot to get the modem back. >> >> I have made no changes to the system other than using a new theme >>about 1-2 weeks ago. Any clues as to how to track this down, or what may be >>causing it? >> > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Todd Tannenbaum email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu Director of the Model Advanced Facility voice phone: (608) 262-3118 Computer-Aided Engineering Center FAX phone: (608) 265-4546 University of Wisconsin-Madison From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 18 13:17:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16753; Mon, 18 Dec 95 13:17:38 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03521; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 13:16:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 18 Dec 1995 13:14:45 -0500 Received: from odyssee.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03239; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 13:14:36 -0500 Received: from pool2_6.odyssee.net by odyssee.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA04739; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 13:14:20 -0500 Received: by pool2_6.odyssee.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BACD4A.6EFF2980@pool2_6.odyssee.net>; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 13:12:07 -0500 Message-Id: <01BACD4A.6EFF2980@pool2_6.odyssee.net> From: "A. Di Meglio" To: "'tp750@cs.utk.edu'" Subject: Where is everyone ! Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 13:12:02 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's been almost over 3 days and I haven't received any mail in my mailbox. I was wondering if I was cut off as a member, if so, could you reinstate my membership. Yours truly Neil ! From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 18 13:24:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17109; Mon, 18 Dec 95 13:24:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04088; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 13:23:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 18 Dec 1995 13:22:20 -0500 Received: from mail.ucsd.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03967; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 13:22:17 -0500 Received: from conic.UUCP by mail.ucsd.edu; id KAA16765 sendmail 8.6.12/UCSD-2.2-sun via UUCP Mon, 18 Dec 1995 10:22:13 -0800 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <199512181822.KAA16765@mail.ucsd.edu> Received: from engineering/tomf by conic.loral.com (PMail+UDG PegWaf v0.31 93.10.18) id 0686 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 10:01:55 PST 8 PDT From: TOMF@conic.loral.com (Tom Franklin Tom Franklin) To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 10:01:52 +0000 Subject: FS: TP755C 16/540/TFT/Extras Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Organization: Loral Conic/Terracom, San Diego, CA 92123 (619) 279-0411 I couldn't remember if for sale postings are allowed here, so please forgive this transgression. IBM ThinkPad 755C --- $2800.00 -Intel 486DX4-75 MHz. -10.4" Active Matrix (Not Passive) Color Display. -Windows-95 installed. -540MB Hard Disk Drive. -16MB Memory using DIMM adapter. -28.8 V.34 Hayes X-Jack FAX/Modem. -Two NiMH Batteries. -Manuals, Disks, Original Box, and Receipts. -Over 2 Years Left on Transferrable IBM Warranty. Call Tom Franklin at (619)576-1938 evenings or email me. THANKS From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 18 14:56:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22030; Mon, 18 Dec 95 14:56:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11433; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 14:54:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 18 Dec 1995 14:52:01 -0500 Received: from thud.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11290; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 14:52:00 -0500 From: Vaidy Sunderam Received: by thud.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id OAA11681; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 14:51:58 -0500 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 14:51:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199512181951.OAA11681@thud.cs.utk.edu> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: 760cd questions Does anyone know : (1) whether a tp755 a/c adapter can be used with the 760 and vice-versa? The part numbers are different but the output ratings are the same .... (2) how to install the 1.44diskette drive into the 760cd cd compartment without having to remove the battery? Thanks Vaidy Sunderam From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 18 17:33:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02834; Mon, 18 Dec 95 17:33:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25350; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 17:32:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 18 Dec 1995 17:29:31 -0500 Received: from lamb.sas.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25002; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 17:29:28 -0500 Received: from mozart by lamb.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Gateway/01-23-95) id AA16495; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 17:29:25 -0500 Received: from hopi.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA06009; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 16:10:27 -0500 Received: by hopi.unx.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Generic 9.01/3-26-93) id AA08347; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 16:10:26 -0500 From: Pat Herbert Message-Id: <199512182110.AA08347@hopi.unx.sas.com> Subject: Help: my mouse pointer is possessed To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 16:10:26 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: saspmh@unx.sas.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL0a8] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am new to this group so I apologize in advance if this question has already been answered here. The mouse pointer seems to have a mind of its own and starts running up or left on the screen at what seems to be random times. This only happens when the trackpointer and the MS mouse are connected/enabled at the same time. Machine/environment: 755CD, Dock II, MS mouse, Win95. If I disable the trackpointer (requires reboot), the problem goes away. So, does anyone know of a fix for this problem? Any suggestions would be appreciated. -- Pat Herbert saspmh@unx.sas.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 18 20:18:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16481; Mon, 18 Dec 95 20:18:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05641; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 20:17:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 18 Dec 1995 20:14:43 -0500 Received: from denver.ssds.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05348; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 20:14:35 -0500 Received: from freke.radio.com (rem_den21.ssds.com [134.127.122.21]) by denver.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) with SMTP id SAA24622; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 18:13:53 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2b8.32.19951219011102.0097c008@denver.ssds.com> X-Sender: cds@denver.ssds.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2b8 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 19:11:02 -0600 To: Todd Tannenbaum From: "Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson) - SSDS" Subject: Re: Mwave2.00 and Win95 overcommited Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Greetings, The issue I was seeing was that the theme that I installed had longer sounds than the previous themes. I think that the sound triggered when the dial box popped up is what was causing my grief. Went back to the old theme and the symptoms went away. Regards, -+Chris At 10:24 95/12/18 -0600, the sage, Todd Tannenbaum, uttered these words: (>At 10:45 AM 12/15/95 -0800, you wrote: (>>Keep in mind that the MWave cannot do both MIDI/Wav/SoundBlaster functions (>>and v.34 (28.8kbps) at the same time. The IBM tech support kid said "Hey, (>>what do you want? You got a modem and sound board in a laptop." "Yipee!" I (>>said. "So does your competition..." (>> (>>I went ahead and got a PCMCIA Ethernet/v.34 Modem combo card which frees-up (>>my MWave to do the *important* sound stuff ;] (>> (>>-Ted (> (> (>This is not true. i do Wav sound and MIDI (about 8 voices) while connected (>at 28.8baud on my thinkpad 755CE. i also can use Internet Phone (>successfully, which both utilizes the 28.8 modem and obviously WAV sound at (>the same time. (> (>i am using win95, MWAVE 2, and run a plus-pack "theme" which has sound events. (> (>98% of the time i have no problems using the modem at 28.8 and using the (>sound events at the same time. (>sometimes, very rarely, after i dial-in, my sound events "go away", i get (>similar problems as mentioned below, and the machine becomes very sluggish (>when trying to open up new menus. (> (>i think i have detected a pattern to all this (not certain however): (>here is what i do to avoid problems: (>1) before using the modem, make certain a "sound-event" has been triggered (>at least once in your win95 session. (press the Start button, whatever). it (>seems like you want MWAVE to have to spit out at least one WAV sound before (>using the 28.8 modem (perhaps so it loads the WAV sound code first?) (>2) do _not_ trigger any sound events while the modem is dialing and (>negotiating a carrier; i.e. patiently wait and don't be mouse clicking while (>the modem is connecting. once you are fully connected, then continue your work. (>3) i think i have had worse luck when i try using modem/sound together after (>i bring the machine up out of "hibernate" mode than when i do a "real" power (>up (i.e. give a chance for MWAVE to boot up clean). (> (>hope this helps you out. (> (>i have actually been very please with my sound capabilities while running (>the V.34 modem; it actaully works better for me than the older version of (>the MWAVE software did running just a 14.4 modem.... (back then i could not (>run any MIDI with the modem, but with the new MWAVE software even MIDI works (>while I am using the modem at 28.8, just with a reduced number of (>simultaneous voices). (> (>Todd (> (>> (>>At 12:37 AM 12/15/95 -0600, Chris Liljenstolpe (Swanson) - SSDS wrote: (>>> (>>> I have been running the MWave 2.0 code on Win95 and my Thinkpad (>>>755CE for some time, but all of a sudden am getting "MWave overcommitted" (>>>errors upon starting up a PPP session (I was doing this before with no (>>>problems). This just started a few days ago and, although the modem keeps (>>>working, it becomes VERY unstable. If I acknowledge the error (>>>(overcommitted - stop an application and acknowledge), I end up having to (>>>reboot to get the modem back. (>>> (>>> I have made no changes to the system other than using a new theme (>>>about 1-2 weeks ago. Any clues as to how to track this down, or what may be (>>>causing it? (>>> (>> (>> (>> (> (>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= (>Todd Tannenbaum email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (>Director of the Model Advanced Facility voice phone: (608) 262-3118 (>Computer-Aided Engineering Center FAX phone: (608) 265-4546 (>University of Wisconsin-Madison (> (> (> -- ( ( | ( Chris Liljenstolpe ) ) (| ), inc. SSDS, Inc; 8400 Normandale Lake Blvd.; Suite 993 business driven Bloomington, MN 55437; technology solutions TEL 612.921.2392 FAX 612.921.2395 Um Yah Yah! From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 18 20:45:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18049; Mon, 18 Dec 95 20:45:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07395; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 20:44:37 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 18 Dec 1995 20:43:12 -0500 Received: from edo.tokyo.tcs.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA07307; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 20:43:05 -0500 Received: from tokyo.tcs.co.jp by tokyo.tcs.co.jp (8.6.5/8.6.5) id KAA01845 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 10:43:54 +0900 Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 10:43:54 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199512190143.KAA01845@edo.tokyo.tcs.co.jp> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP755C and virtual display under Win95 Hi. I used to have a working 1024x768 virtual display under windows 3.1 I moved to Win95, and haven't been able to find a configuration that allows this. Has anyone successfully configured a virtual display under Windows 95 on there thinkpad? Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks. -Lee lee@tcs.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 18 22:12:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23619; Mon, 18 Dec 95 22:12:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13986; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 22:11:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 18 Dec 1995 22:08:39 -0500 Received: from nynexst.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13649; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 22:08:37 -0500 Received: from insight.nynexst.com by nynexst.com (4.1/SMI-4.1.nynexst) id AA16544; Mon, 18 Dec 95 22:07:58 EST Received: from localhost by insight.nynexst.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18791; Mon, 18 Dec 95 22:08:09 EST Message-Id: <9512190308.AA18791@insight.nynexst.com> To: saspmh@unx.sas.com Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Help: my mouse pointer is possessed In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 18 Dec 1995 16:10:26 EST." <199512182110.AA08347@hopi.unx.sas.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.5omega 10/6/94 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 22:08:08 -0500 From: Gen Cerf I had the same problem a while back and the problem got so bad I couldn't even reboot. The TP had to go back to the factory where they install a new trackpoint (much nicer) and return it to you nicely exorcised! Gen Cerf From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 19 00:24:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00324; Tue, 19 Dec 95 00:24:58 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23292; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 00:24:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 19 Dec 1995 00:19:40 -0500 Received: from zNET.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22895; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 00:19:28 -0500 Received: from lang.znet.com (sb21.znet.com [206.43.105.21]) by zNET.com (8.7.3/8.7.3-jjb) with SMTP id VAA17239; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 21:19:07 -0800 (PST) From: lang@apocalypse.org (Lang Zerner) To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Mwave2.00 and Win95 overcommited Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 08:13:53 GMT Organization: ITC Consulting Group Message-Id: <30d62759.102895530@znet.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99c/16.141 On Fri, 15 Dec 1995, Chris Osborn wrote: >I haven't been able to use the MWave modem *at all* under Win95 since I upgraded to >the 1.40 BIOS. Anytime something opens COM2 to talk to it, it hangs the computer, >and the only way out is to push the reset button on the back. Upgrading to the 1.40 BIOS resulted in a similar problem for me. Although the system doesn't hang, any time I try to use the Mwave modem under Win95 with the 1.40 BIOS, Win95 believes that the modem is in use by another application. I have tried re-installing Mwave 2.0 for Windows, but no joy. Everything was fine before I installed BIOS 1.40. Immediately after installing BIOS 1.40, I couldn't use Mwave 2.0 any more. I'm using a 755CX with 810MB disk and 40MB memory, Windows 95 and plus pack installed in a virgin directory (not on top of my old Win 3.1 installation). I'd call IBM for support, but they are now charging $30 for every call if you use Windows 95! I don't think any IBM folks lurk on this list, but if anyone has a tech or marketing relationship at IBM I'd be delighted if you'd pass this message along. I wouldn't mind if you'd join me in market-pressing IBM into supporting Windows 95 like like Dell, Gateway, and other competitors do. It has been almost four months since Win 95 stopped being pre-release software, after all. Be seeing you... --Lang ITC Consulting Group integrated communication consulting services 915 Cole Street #151 internet publishing * training * design San Francisco, CA 94117 +1 415 861 7688 itc@apocalypse.org From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 19 00:40:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00457; Tue, 19 Dec 95 00:40:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24349; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 00:39:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 19 Dec 1995 00:38:19 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24265; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 00:38:15 -0500 Received: from [128.125.223.208] (comserv-g-64.usc.edu [128.125.223.208]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.2/usc) with SMTP id VAA17114; Mon, 18 Dec 1995 21:37:48 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 21:46:27 -0800 To: Lee Hounshell , tp750@cs.utk.edu From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: TP755C and virtual display under Win95 At 10:43 AM 12/19/95, Lee Hounshell wrote: >Hi. > >I used to have a working 1024x768 virtual display under windows 3.1 >I moved to Win95, and haven't been able to find a configuration that >allows this. >Has anyone successfully configured a virtual display under Windows 95 on >there thinkpad? Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks. I can tell you what works with my 701... Just go into Control Panel, Displays, then set some resolution higher than what you have. That gives you a "virtual desktop". Is there something else I'm not getting here? ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Home Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 19 01:16:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08036; Tue, 19 Dec 95 01:16:57 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA26109; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 01:16:03 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 19 Dec 1995 01:14:03 -0500 Received: from cln.etc.bc.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA25834; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 01:13:48 -0500 Received: from access.cn.camriv.bc.ca.cn.camriv.bc.ca (st11.net129.cn.camriv.bc.ca) by cln.etc.bc.ca for tp750@cs.utk.edu (4.1/1.39) id AA18075; Mon, 18 Dec 95 22:13:08 PST Date: Mon, 18 Dec 95 22:13:05 PST Message-Id: <9512190613.AA18075@cln.etc.bc.ca> X-Sender: ppreside@pop.etc.bc.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: lang@apocalypse.org (Lang Zerner) From: Pat Presidente Subject: Re: Mwave2.00 and Win95 overcommited Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu I also upgraded to the 1.40 bios of my 755 CDV and MWave 2.0. I am using Win 95 and also have an 810 HD. The only problem I have with this is a delay in opening menus and slowed mouse control when connecting at 28.8. If I connect at 14.4 there isn't a problem. The problem I have encountered is with the enhanced video drivers. Whenever I install them it cuts out my modem and sets the screen to 16 colors. Then when I go to activate the enhance video driver it says the driver is not installed. Seems to be a few hangups here, and unfortunately, the problems don't look consistent. Oh yeah, I'm also having the "drifting mouse" problem. I'll be in an application and it will start to drift off on its own. It doesn't seem to be with any particular application that I've noted and is not related to a docking station - don't have one. I do have a port replicator though, and here the mouse behavior is rather odd. The response seems to be delayed and a little off the mark, and sometimes will suddenly do multiple clicks of the mouse after only pressing it once. Ain't technology grand. :-) Pat At 08:13 AM 12/19/95 GMT, you wrote: >On Fri, 15 Dec 1995, Chris Osborn wrote: >>I haven't been able to use the MWave modem *at all* under Win95 since I upgraded to >>the 1.40 BIOS. Anytime something opens COM2 to talk to it, it hangs the computer, >>and the only way out is to push the reset button on the back. > >Upgrading to the 1.40 BIOS resulted in a similar problem for me. Although the >system doesn't hang, any time I try to use the Mwave modem under Win95 with the >1.40 BIOS, Win95 believes that the modem is in use by another application. I >have tried re-installing Mwave 2.0 for Windows, but no joy. > >Everything was fine before I installed BIOS 1.40. Immediately after installing >BIOS 1.40, I couldn't use Mwave 2.0 any more. I'm using a 755CX with 810MB disk >and 40MB memory, Windows 95 and plus pack installed in a virgin directory (not >on top of my old Win 3.1 installation). I'd call IBM for support, but they are >now charging $30 for every call if you use Windows 95! > >I don't think any IBM folks lurk on this list, but if anyone has a tech or >marketing relationship at IBM I'd be delighted if you'd pass this message along. >I wouldn't mind if you'd join me in market-pressing IBM into supporting Windows >95 like like Dell, Gateway, and other competitors do. It has been almost four >months since Win 95 stopped being pre-release software, after all. > >Be seeing you... >--Lang > >ITC Consulting Group integrated communication consulting services >915 Cole Street #151 internet publishing * training * design >San Francisco, CA 94117 +1 415 861 7688 itc@apocalypse.org > > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 19 01:49:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11019; Tue, 19 Dec 95 01:49:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27469; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 01:48:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 19 Dec 1995 01:44:03 -0500 Received: from edo.tokyo.tcs.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27235; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 01:43:53 -0500 Received: from tokyo.tcs.co.jp by tokyo.tcs.co.jp (8.6.5/8.6.5) id PAA02131; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 15:44:43 +0900 Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 15:44:43 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199512190644.PAA02131@edo.tokyo.tcs.co.jp> To: lee@tokyo.tcs.co.jp, tp750@cs.utk.edu, whittle@usc.edu Subject: Re: TP755C and virtual display under Win95 >>Has anyone successfully configured a virtual display under Windows 95 on > I can tell you what works with my 701... > Just go into Control Panel, Displays, then set some resolution >higher than what you have. That gives you a "virtual desktop". Nope. Doesn't work on my 755C. When you click "apply" windows give a message to the effect that the larger window resolution is not supported. I tried downloading the old windows 3.1 drivers and manually patching things, but I still couldn't get it to work. Possibly I've missed something, though. -Lee From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 19 07:18:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29857; Tue, 19 Dec 95 07:18:18 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA21710; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 07:15:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 19 Dec 1995 07:13:02 -0500 Received: from mailer.together.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA21534; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 07:12:58 -0500 Received: from sequoia.together.net (sequoia.together.net [204.97.120.25]) by mailer.together.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA24450; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 07:13:01 -0500 Received: from VTR165.ramp.together.net (VTR165.ramp.together.net [204.97.125.16]) by sequoia.together.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA29085; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 07:17:05 -0500 From: byellin@together.net (Bob Yellin) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Mwave2.00 and Win95 overcommited Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 12:13:12 GMT Message-Id: <30d6aaec.1029857@together.net> References: <30d62759.102895530@znet.com> In-Reply-To: <30d62759.102895530@znet.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99d/32.148 >On Fri, 15 Dec 1995, Chris Osborn wrote: >>I haven't been able to use the MWave modem *at all* under Win95 since I upgraded to >>the 1.40 BIOS. Anytime something opens COM2 to talk to it, it hangs the computer, >>and the only way out is to push the reset button on the back. > >Upgrading to the 1.40 BIOS resulted in a similar problem for me. Although the >system doesn't hang, any time I try to use the Mwave modem under Win95 with the >1.40 BIOS, Win95 believes that the modem is in use by another application. I >have tried re-installing Mwave 2.0 for Windows, but no joy. > >Everything was fine before I installed BIOS 1.40. Immediately after installing >BIOS 1.40, I couldn't use Mwave 2.0 any more. I'm using a 755CX with 810MB disk >and 40MB memory, Windows 95 and plus pack installed in a virgin directory (not >on top of my old Win 3.1 installation). I'd call IBM for support, but they are >now charging $30 for every call if you use Windows 95!..... I had the same problem with the same machine (755CX) and configuration. Luckily everything went back to normal after I re-flashed 1.30. What improvements (theoretically) does 1.40 bring? Does anyone have a solution to this problem? Bob Yellin byellin@together.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 19 12:04:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17912; Tue, 19 Dec 95 12:04:43 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13091; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 12:01:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 19 Dec 1995 11:58:05 -0500 Received: from nvc.cc.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12813; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 11:58:02 -0500 Received: by nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA16470; Tue, 19 Dec 95 08:57:38 -0800 Received: by marauder.nvc.cc.ca.us (NX5.67e/NeXT-2.0-FZ-2.2) id AA00370; Tue, 19 Dec 95 08:56:17 -0800 From: "Chris Osborn" Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 08:56:15 PST Reply-To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us To: "Bob Yellin" Subject: MWave 2.0, Win95, BIOS 1.40, 755cx don't work together Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <30d6aaec.1029857@together.net> References: <30d6aaec.1029857@together.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mynah 0.8br m68k) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mynah 0.8br m68k Message-Id: Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=Us-Ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit On Dec. 19 95, 04:13 PST, "Bob Yellin" wrote: >> Everything was fine before I installed BIOS 1.40. Immediately >> after installing BIOS 1.40, I couldn't use Mwave 2.0 any more. >> I'm using a 755CX with 810MB disk and 40MB memory, Windows 95 > I had the same problem with the same machine (755CX) and configuration. Just thought I'd mention that my system is *also* a 755cx with 40MB of memory. Maybe I'll have to go back to 1.30. I was hoping 1.40 would fix some of the problems NeXTSTEP has with the BIOS, but I don't think they did, and 1.40 is just causing more problems than it's worth. --- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Voice: 707 253 3130 Napa Valley College Fax: 707 253 3063 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy., Napa, CA, 94558 MIME ok, NeXTMail tolerated From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 19 12:45:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19687; Tue, 19 Dec 95 12:45:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17099; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 12:40:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 19 Dec 1995 12:39:59 -0500 Received: from ben.britain.eu.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16901; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 12:39:56 -0500 Received: from qtlon.quantime.co.uk by ben.britain.eu.net via UKIP with SMTP (PP) id ; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 17:31:27 +0000 Received: from tiree.quantime.co.uk (tiree) by quantime.co.uk; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 17:27:32 GMT Message-Id: <5202.199512191732@tiree.quantime.co.uk> Received: from lajudd.quantime.co.uk by tiree.quantime.co.uk; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 17:32:08 GMT X-Sender: ajudd@tiree.quantime.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 17:35:31 -0500 To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Alex Judd Subject: Introduction time... Cc: ajudd@quantime.co.uk Just a brief intro as at last I have found a list about Thinkpads. Machine - 755CD, 24Mb RAM, 850Mb and 540Mb hard-drives, 3Com PCMCIA Network Card, Hayes 28,800 PCMCIA modem. Operating Systems - Win 95, Windows 3.11 Workgroups, DOS, OS-2. Operating Systems in progress - SCO-Unix, Linux Present Problems - Hibernation in Win 95 going wrong, Linux not being able to recognise the CD on the 755 machine, and therefore refusing to let me modify the kernel. Feel free to contact me about any of the above hardware and Win 95 as I spent quite a while getting it all to work, and updating drivers etc. Cheers Alex Judd From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 19 17:44:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13227; Tue, 19 Dec 95 17:44:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13330; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 17:42:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 19 Dec 1995 17:38:04 -0500 Received: from biobase.dk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12937; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 17:38:01 -0500 Received: by biobase.dk; id AA17133; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 23:40:42 +0100 From: Paulo Magalhaes Message-Id: <9512192240.AA17133@biobase.dk> Subject: Internet Phone on TP750 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 23:40:41 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <0099B0BC.29AABE43.12@shrsys.hslc.org> from "Dennis J. Gormley" at Dec 18, 95 10:29:23 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Has anyone tried VocalTec's Internet Phone on a 750? In my specific case, with 8Mb and a 14.4 Xjack - theoretically it should work, even if only at half duplex, right? But I would like a bit more info before I fork out 50 bucks... Thanks. Paulo From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 19 17:52:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13881; Tue, 19 Dec 95 17:52:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13956; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 17:50:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 19 Dec 1995 17:49:08 -0500 Received: from dorsai.dorsai.org by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA13824; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 17:49:01 -0500 From: Received: by dorsai.dorsai.org (5.67b/23Dec93-Dorsai Embassy) id AA22564; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 17:46:49 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 17:46:49 -0500 (est) To: Bob Yellin Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Mwave2.00 and Win95 overcommited In-Reply-To: <30d6aaec.1029857@together.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I upgraded my tp701c to the new bios and now get an error when I boot up saying that I need more hard drive space to create a FAT. After I press return it boots up and seems to run normally. Anyone else have this or know what to do? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 19 18:17:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15834; Tue, 19 Dec 95 18:17:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15799; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:15:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:14:40 -0500 Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15689; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:14:37 -0500 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA27538; Tue, 19 Dec 95 18:09:38 EST Date: Tue, 19 Dec 95 18:09:38 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9512192309.AA27538@nile.gnat.com> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: 760 options sorry if this is an FAQ (is there a newsgroup archive of this mailing list for old messages?) ANyone know what the story is on a 760 model with CD ROM and 120MHz processor. Second question: what is story on maximum memory capacity of 760? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 19 18:23:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16065; Tue, 19 Dec 95 18:23:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16463; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:21:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:20:36 -0500 Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16214; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:20:33 -0500 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA01690; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:20:36 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:20:35 -0500 (EST) From: "John H. Kim" To: Paulo Magalhaes Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Internet Phone on TP750 In-Reply-To: <9512192240.AA17133@biobase.dk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 19 Dec 1995, Paulo Magalhaes wrote: > Has anyone tried VocalTec's Internet Phone on a 750? In my specific > case, with 8Mb and a 14.4 Xjack - theoretically it should work, even > if only at half duplex, right? But I would like a bit more info before > I fork out 50 bucks... Thanks. They have a demo version you can try at their web site: http://www.vocaltec.com The demo worked at half duplex under Win3.1 on my 750 with 12MB and an ethernet card. I don't know about full duplex or newer versions. (The demo limits you to 1 minute of speaking time) ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one jokim@mit.edu that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I have jokim@tuna.mit.edu found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 19 18:24:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16070; Tue, 19 Dec 95 18:24:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16557; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:22:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:21:07 -0500 Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16333; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:21:04 -0500 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA27598; Tue, 19 Dec 95 18:16:03 EST Date: Tue, 19 Dec 95 18:16:03 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9512192316.AA27598@nile.gnat.com> To: sandy@surf.com, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 760CD 120Mhz Pentium version - When?? Are you sure this has been announced? All my information sayts that there definitely is no such product announced or available. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 19 18:41:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17194; Tue, 19 Dec 95 18:41:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17583; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:39:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:38:09 -0500 Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17488; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:38:01 -0500 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA27762; Tue, 19 Dec 95 18:33:13 EST Date: Tue, 19 Dec 95 18:33:13 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9512192333.AA27762@nile.gnat.com> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: portable CD ROM supporting OS/2 is there a battery operated portable CD ROM that works with OS/2 on thinkpads? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 19 19:06:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18766; Tue, 19 Dec 95 19:06:40 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18636; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:59:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:58:14 -0500 Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA18537; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 18:58:01 -0500 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA28038; Tue, 19 Dec 95 18:53:13 EST Date: Tue, 19 Dec 95 18:53:13 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9512192353.AA28038@nile.gnat.com> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: batteries for sale I have three NiMh batteries for sale for the 755. They are the black batteries which are square shaped, PN 84G6440 FRU P/N 85G1510 they are brand new, they have been put through a full discharge/charge cycle twoice to condition them, but not otherwise used. I bought them for a trip to Japan, which failed to materialize, so I don't need them after all (at the time, I could not find Li-Ion batteries for that trip, so that is why I bought the NiMh batteries).. Let me know if interested dewar@gnat.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 19 19:07:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18771; Tue, 19 Dec 95 19:07:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18956; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 19:04:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 19 Dec 1995 19:03:34 -0500 Received: from sparty.surf.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA18889; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 19:03:32 -0500 Received: from sandy.sandy.com ([206.14.89.139]) by sparty.surf.com (8.6.12/CN-CONFIG-0.3) with SMTP id QAA18587; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 16:02:28 -0800 Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 16:02:28 -0800 Message-Id: <199512200002.QAA18587@sparty.surf.com> X-Sender: sandy@sandy.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) From: Sandy Meltzer Subject: Re: 760CD 120Mhz Pentium version - When?? Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu At 06:16 PM 12/19/95 EST, you wrote: >Are you sure this has been announced? All my information sayts that there >definitely is no such product announced or available. I'm pretty sure The 760CD-120 was part of IBM's annoucement some time ago, but I haven't heard anything since. I have seen the 120Mhz upgrade listed for the 760CD-90Mhz (for about $1250 retail) and believe IBM has assigned a part number for this "product". I really have need for this machine (for our business), but don't want to wait until next summer to see it. If I knew for sure that the 120Mhz CD version won't be available for a few months, I'd buy the 760CD-90 and update the processor later. The non-CD 120Mhz versions obviously don't come with the CD, but also don't have the advanced video feautures of the CD models (which I really want). From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 19 20:04:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21881; Tue, 19 Dec 95 20:04:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21846; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 20:02:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 19 Dec 1995 20:00:26 -0500 Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21680; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 20:00:22 -0500 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA28832; Tue, 19 Dec 95 19:55:14 EST Date: Tue, 19 Dec 95 19:55:14 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9512200055.AA28832@nile.gnat.com> To: dewar@gnat.com, sandy@surf.com Subject: Re: 760CD 120Mhz Pentium version - When?? Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Thanks, Sandy, that is indeed useful information. Does anyone know the part number for the upgrade (from 90->120 on the CD). Of course, this is the kind of product that can take ages to actually get hold of (the 90 MHz CD and the 120MHz non-CD versions are in stores now). From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 20 10:23:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16650; Wed, 20 Dec 95 10:23:12 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21480; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 10:22:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 20 Dec 1995 10:18:27 -0500 Received: from ben.britain.eu.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21027; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 10:18:19 -0500 Received: from qtlon.quantime.co.uk by ben.britain.eu.net via UKIP with SMTP (PP) id ; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 15:17:12 +0000 Received: from tiree.quantime.co.uk (tiree) by quantime.co.uk; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 15:13:19 GMT Message-Id: <11897.199512201517@tiree.quantime.co.uk> Received: from lajudd.quantime.co.uk by tiree.quantime.co.uk; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 15:17:59 GMT X-Sender: ajudd@tiree.quantime.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 15:21:39 -0500 To: harald@staff.cs.uit.no (Harald Skotnes) From: Alex Judd Subject: TP755CD, Win95 & 64K Colours Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu, ajudd@quantime.co.uk >Hi, I am also running at TP755CD with win95. I also have a problem with >hibernation and a problem with my colors. When I try to use 32K or 64K >colors I get an error booting windows: "Explorer: An error has occured in your >program. To keep working anyway, click Ignore and save your work in a new file. >To quit this program, click Close. You will lose information you entered since >your last Save." >The Close and Ignore buttons fail to function and I have to reboot in Safe mode >and change the color setting back to 256. > >Have you experienced the same thing? > >Regards > >-- Harald > > No..., Don't appear to have had that problem, but I have had weird stuff happening due to the secondary monitor I selected in Control Panel/Display. Try changing this to : Control Panel -> Display -> Change Display Type -> Adapter Type - Western Digital Monitor Type - Super VGA 1024x768 And then select High Color (16 bit) which should provide 64k colours (I think). This appears to work fine on my 755CD. Alex From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 20 10:23:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16659; Wed, 20 Dec 95 10:23:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21474; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 10:22:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 20 Dec 1995 10:18:00 -0500 Received: from biobase.dk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21016; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 10:17:57 -0500 Received: by biobase.dk; id AA31614; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 16:20:43 +0100 From: Paulo Magalhaes Message-Id: <9512201520.AA31614@biobase.dk> Subject: Fax blues To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 16:20:43 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Ok, so here I am, stuck at home with too much snow outside for any sane man to think twice about leaving the warmth of a fireplace, and I need to send a fax... Where is that silly disk that came with my Megahertz XJ2144?... It took a while, but I managed to find the damn thing: Eclipse's FAX. It has been about a year since I used it last, and I had deleted it from the HD. Anyway, I installed the thing and tried to run it. The program starts, but then just freezes, before anything can be done. Now, I know that it used to work, because there was a time when I used it pretty heavily. Back then I was running OS/2 2.1; now I have simple Win3.1. Does anybody know what may be the problem? I just need to send one simple fax!... Thanks for the help. Paulo From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 20 10:32:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16899; Wed, 20 Dec 95 10:32:45 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22291; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 10:32:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 20 Dec 1995 10:31:27 -0500 Received: from lotus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22168; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 10:31:22 -0500 Received: from internet1.lotus.com (crd.lotus.com) by lotus.com (4.1/SMI-4.10801.1994) id AA00415; Wed, 20 Dec 95 10:29:13 EST Received: by internet1.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA23421; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 10:25:23 -0500 Message-Id: <9512201525.AA23421@internet1.lotus.com> Received: by Lotus (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V.03 Beta) id 293BC34E60B02E6685256298005506A4; Wed, 20 Dec 95 10:25:22 EST To: Vaidy Sunderam Cc: TP750 From: Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus Date: 20 Dec 95 10:30:24 EST Subject: Re: 760cd questions X-Lotus-Type: Reply to All With History Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain > (1) whether a tp755 a/c adapter can be used with the 760 > and vice-versa? The part numbers are different > but the output ratings are the same .... The shape and size look the same...it's the light adapter and not the heavy international one. > (2) how to install the 1.44diskette drive into the 760cd > cd compartment without having to remove the battery? This is one of my annoyances as well...the battery is also difficult to remove because you have to do this odd simultaneous pull forward and up motion... :-( ken From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 20 10:44:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17955; Wed, 20 Dec 95 10:44:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23121; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 10:43:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 20 Dec 1995 10:42:24 -0500 Received: from helu07.ktt.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23048; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 10:42:21 -0500 Received: from abbjaoj by helu07.ktt.fi (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA32152 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 17:42:51 GMT Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 17:42:51 GMT Message-Id: <199512201742.RAA32152@helu07.ktt.fi> X-Sender: abbjaoj@fiabb.abb.fi X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Jari.Oja@fiabb.abb.fi (Jari Oja) Subject: TP760-adapter Can I use TP750 Cigarette Lighter Adapter in TP 760C also. Connector looks the same and in TP750 voltage range is marked to be 10 -20 V. In TP760C there is no markings. Size of the adapter is huge, but anyway it might be needed. ??? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 20 11:20:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19382; Wed, 20 Dec 95 11:20:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26043; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 11:19:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 20 Dec 1995 11:19:00 -0500 Received: from biobase.dk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA25870; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 11:18:52 -0500 Received: by biobase.dk; id AA06109; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 17:21:38 +0100 From: Paulo Magalhaes Message-Id: <9512201621.AA06109@biobase.dk> Subject: Re: TP760-adapter To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 17:21:38 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199512201742.RAA32152@helu07.ktt.fi> from "Jari Oja" at Dec 20, 95 05:42:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > Can I use TP750 Cigarette Lighter Adapter in TP 760C also. So that's what that little red knob is for! Always wondered what it was doing in the middle of my keyboard. And the hours I spent looking for matches... From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 20 12:06:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22667; Wed, 20 Dec 95 12:06:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29878; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 12:04:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 20 Dec 1995 12:02:43 -0500 Received: from earth.usa.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA29765; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 12:02:38 -0500 Received: (from crumrine@localhost) by earth.usa.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id KAA07624; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 10:02:24 -0700 Reply-To: "Mike Crumrine/C@C Computer and Consulting Services Inc" Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 10:02:23 -0700 (MST) From: "Mike Crumrine/C@C Computer and Consulting Services Inc" X-Sender: crumrine@earth To: Robert Dewar Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 760CD 120Mhz Pentium version - When?? In-Reply-To: <9512192316.AA27598@nile.gnat.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just got a faxback doc from the 800 number, and they had a part number for the 120 upgrade. I called ibm pc direct and they said it might be available around the end of january. You would have to send them the whole unit for the upgrade. BTW, anyone go for the insurance offer that comes with the TP? I have a quote for $397 for a three year policy on the 760cd. Just got word that my memory order has been pushed to Jan 29 :-( No NT till then... Win95 is working like a champ though! mike From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 20 12:36:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24804; Wed, 20 Dec 95 12:36:32 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03033; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 12:35:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 20 Dec 1995 12:33:56 -0500 Received: from mailgate.Cadence.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02734; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 12:33:51 -0500 Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.Cadence.COM (8.6.8/8.6.8) id JAA22224 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 09:33:16 -0800 Received: from cds9258.cadence.com(158.140.32.4) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma022213; Wed Dec 20 09:33:10 1995 Received: from pctedf.cadence.com (pctedf.cadence.com [158.140.56.21]) by cds9258.cadence.com (8.6.8/8.6.8) with SMTP id JAA03348 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 09:33:08 -0800 Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 09:33:08 -0800 Message-Id: <199512201733.JAA03348@cds9258.cadence.com> X-Sender: tedf@eudora1.cadence.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Ted Frederick Subject: 3rd party display adapter I'm glowing with pride... I accomplished what IBM indicated was "impossible with the ThinkPad architecture". I successfully installed and configured an ISA, 3rd party graphics adapter in my Dock II. I now have 1280x1024x8bpp, 1024x768x16bpp, 800x600x24bpp and 640x480x32bpp with my 755CDV (& external monitor) operational in Win 95. This was needed because I give presentations in 16-bit color, however, I needed a large desktop to create the presentations with the desired color depth so I didn't have to undock or reboot windows to see what they would look like at the 16bpp level. I tried several display adapters (the hard part was finding high-performance ISA display cards). The following cards worked: * Hercules Dynamite Pro 2MB - 87Hz *interlaced* at 1024x768x16bpp, however (Back it went) ;-\ * STB Nitro 64 2MB - Use the drivers that ship with Win95, not the Win95 drivers that come with the card - compatibility issues. At $189 it's a keeper! I get faster performance from the Nitro through an ISA bus than I do with the internal VLB WD driver on the flat-panel! The following didn't work at all: Any display card made by ATI. I tried 3 different ones and nearly every case the system wouldn't even boot! I don't want to bore everyone on the list with any more info, however, if you are interested, e-mail me and I'll tell you how I did it and give some tips on how to make the installation go smoothly in Win95. Regards, -Ted From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 20 13:08:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26761; Wed, 20 Dec 95 13:08:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05041; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 13:08:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 20 Dec 1995 13:05:58 -0500 Received: from aaRS.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04858; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 13:05:54 -0500 Received: from MINIHELIX.MIT.EDU by aaRS.mit.edu via SMTP (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA00712; Wed, 20 Dec 95 13:06:28 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2b8.32.19951220180441.00673a6c@192.168.0.1> X-Sender: art@192.168.0.1 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2b8 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 13:04:41 -0500 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Arturo J. Morales" Subject: External Display on Win95? (TP750Cs) I've been trying (unsuccesfully) to get a higher resolution on my external display... I must be forgetting something since WIn95 won't let me change resolutions. If I try to change the display (Standard VGA 800x600 or 1024x768) Win95 tells me that there is a problem with my hardware... I have the IBMVesa driver loaded in real mode (Do I need this?) Any sugestions??? Thanks!! Art From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 20 13:18:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27169; Wed, 20 Dec 95 13:18:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05662; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 13:15:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 20 Dec 1995 13:15:01 -0500 Received: from north.pacificnet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA05444; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 13:14:59 -0500 Received: from mklenner.pacificnet.net (pm4-18.pacificnet.net [206.101.8.178]) by north.pacificnet.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id KAA22422 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 10:12:32 -0800 Message-Id: <2.2b8.32.19951220181432.0067e738@pacificnet.net> X-Sender: mklenner@pacificnet.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2b8 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 10:14:32 -0800 To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Klenner Subject: WTB: 4 Meg RAM for 360/755 Series Hi folks... I need to purchase a 4 Meg RAM card for use in a 360. (I believe this is also compatable with 755 RAM sockets?) I'm giving my 360ce for Christmas, but I need to keep the 16 Meg unit that's in it. However, I feel like I should provide something above the nominal onboard 4 Megs. I'd like to do this soon, so if you have such an animal which you could part with at a reasonable price, (or know where I should look), please let me know. Thanks, and Happy Holidays! --- Michael Klenner mdk1143@is.nyu.edu mklenner@pacificnet.net http://pages.nyu.edu/~mdk1143 --- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 20 13:57:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29500; Wed, 20 Dec 95 13:57:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08159; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 13:55:56 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 20 Dec 1995 13:54:18 -0500 Received: from peritus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07918; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 13:53:27 -0500 Received: from tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com (tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com [199.26.191.60]) by peritus.com (sendmail 8.6.12/Peritus-3.0) with ESMTP for id NAA22732; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 13:45:14 -0500 Received: from localhost by tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com (sendmail 8.6.9/Peritus-2.0) id NAA17026; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 13:51:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199512201851.NAA17026@tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: TP755 and Trantor EPP Parallel Port "MiniSCSI" Interface In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 20 Dec 1995 15:21:39 EST." <11897.199512201517@tiree.quantime.co.uk> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 13:51:18 -0500 From: Don Markuson Has anyone succeeded in getting a Trantor EPP Parallel Port SCSI interface to work on a Thinkpad 75x at EPP speeds? I can get it to work only at the fallback (read "s-l-o-w") bi-directional speed; when I try to force it into EPP mode (DEVICE=TSCSI.SYS /M08), it no longer recognizes the interface. I've tried using the PS2 configurator to enable the Parallel port into EPP mode as LPT2, but this doesn't seem to be a choice for LPT1. What am I missing? (This is under DOS/Win 3.1. Under Win95 I'm still stuck at a more basic level: Win95 recognizes the device, installs some drivers, and after a reboot or two claims it's working fine, but *never* has it succeeded in noticing anything on the SCSI bus, namely a hard drive and CD-ROM.) Any assistance would be appreciated. ..Don Markuson dmarkuson@peritus.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 20 18:20:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19199; Wed, 20 Dec 95 18:20:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28510; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 18:18:36 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 20 Dec 1995 18:14:38 -0500 Received: from vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA28149; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 18:14:28 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id SAA02050; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 18:11:33 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0429; Wed, 20 Dec 95 18:10:47 -0800 Message-Id: <9512210210.AA0429@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 8FF993A7BBE36F2385256298004DA6D0; Wed, 20 Dec 95 18:10:45 To: Paulo Magalhaes Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 20 Dec 95 9:08:58 EDT Subject: Re: Internet Phone on TP750 X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....Has anyone tried VocalTec's Internet Phone on a 750? In my specific case, with 8Mb and a 14.4 Xjack - theoretically it should work, even if only at half duplex, right? But I would like a bit more info before I fork out 50 bucks... Thanks....." ~~~~ i don't remember what's in the 750, but i have yet to find an audio device it won't work with. it runs in half-duplex only if you have a half-duplex modem, which most 14.4's are. if your 750 has the built in mic & speakers, you're all set. i run it on 14.4 at home & t1 at work & there's almost no difference. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 20 18:45:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20673; Wed, 20 Dec 95 18:45:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29965; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 18:43:52 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 20 Dec 1995 18:42:51 -0500 Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29868; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 18:42:44 -0500 Received: from hp715.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA184778; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 16:43:15 -0700 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by hp715.cuug.ab.ca (1.37.109.16//ident-1.0) id AA266005864; Tue, 19 Dec 1995 16:31:04 -0700 Message-Id: <199512192331.AA266005864@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: Introduction time... To: ajudd@quantime.co.uk (Alex Judd) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 16:31:04 -0700 (MST) Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu, ajudd@quantime.co.uk In-Reply-To: <5202.199512191732@tiree.quantime.co.uk> from "Alex Judd" at Dec 19, 95 05:35:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Present Problems - Hibernation in Win 95 going wrong, Linux not being able > to recognise the CD on the 755 machine, and therefore refusing to let me > modify the kernel. I have a very similar system and am running Linux. I'm not sure about you saying Linux isn't recognizing the CD so you can't modify the kernel. Can't see how the two are related?! I do know there is a problem with the 1.2.x kernels and the 755CD. The ide CD-ROM driver in 1.2.x has a known problem that causes it to lose blocks with some CD-ROM drives (including the one in the 755CD)! How are you trying to load Linux (which release?)? Maybe I can help you be sending you a boot disk with a fixed CD-ROM driver. > Cheers > > Alex Judd +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 20 19:47:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24817; Wed, 20 Dec 95 19:47:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03266; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 19:45:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 20 Dec 1995 19:42:36 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03083; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 19:42:31 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA09710; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 16:39:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 16:39:59 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: Brad Pepers Cc: Alex Judd , TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Introduction time... In-Reply-To: <199512192331.AA266005864@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i have nothing but misery on my 755cx with win95. get it off your system ! i tried to install trumpet tcpip socket drivers, and when i restarted the system, win95 overwrote them with its own. there is one mode in win95 - idiot mode ! doug On Tue, 19 Dec 1995, Brad Pepers wrote: > > Present Problems - Hibernation in Win 95 going wrong, Linux not being able > > to recognise the CD on the 755 machine, and therefore refusing to let me > > modify the kernel. > > I have a very similar system and am running Linux. I'm not sure about > you saying Linux isn't recognizing the CD so you can't modify the > kernel. Can't see how the two are related?! I do know there is a > problem with the 1.2.x kernels and the 755CD. The ide CD-ROM driver > in 1.2.x has a known problem that causes it to lose blocks with some > CD-ROM drives (including the one in the 755CD)! How are you trying > to load Linux (which release?)? Maybe I can help you be sending you > a boot disk with a fixed CD-ROM driver. > > > Cheers > > > > Alex Judd > > +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ > | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | > | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | > | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | > | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | > +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 20 21:38:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00274; Wed, 20 Dec 95 21:38:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09977; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 21:36:30 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 20 Dec 1995 21:34:19 -0500 Received: from luyou by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09791; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 21:34:04 -0500 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by luyou (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id KAA18490 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 10:27:44 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199512210227.KAA18490@luyou> Subject: OS/2 + portable CD To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 10:27:44 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text Hi, Any help on R. Dewar's request for info on OS/2 and portable CD machines. I don't have any OS/2 machines with CD-ROM here at work and I don't own a TP75xCD. I managed to get Connect up and running thru' disk images but can get TCP/IP up because it needs a component (MPTS or something like that) which can only be installed from CD on an OS/2 machine (unless someone has found a better way). Eventually I'd like a portbale SCSI CD machine hooked up to my TP. Cheers. __________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 00:36:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14047; Thu, 21 Dec 95 00:36:21 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA20767; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 00:33:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 00:29:48 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA20517; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 00:29:46 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA22848; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 21:27:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 21:27:26 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: dsp modem from win95 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i dont think that win95 sees my dsp modem. i am also kinda bummed that there is no winterm equivalent. it seems the dial-up networking accessory app is for something entirely different. when i try to use it, it tells me that it cant find my modem, and i think it is trying to look for an external modem on com1. i am using a thinkpad 755cx. i have a phone line jacked in to the connector on the side of the thinkpad box. so, anyone successfully get to the dsp modem from win95 ? thanks for any help. i am going to go home and plug my modem into com1, and see if that works (i expect it should). doug From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 00:46:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15048; Thu, 21 Dec 95 00:46:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21215; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 00:44:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 00:43:42 -0500 Received: from POWERED.ZOO3.CS.YALE.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA21147; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 00:43:39 -0500 Received: from FROG.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU by POWERED.ZOO3.CS.YALE.EDU (8.7/res.host.cf-3.5) with ESMTP id AAA26700; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 00:43:37 -0500 Received: by FROG.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU (Sendmail-8.7/res.client.cf-4.0) id AAA27068; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 00:43:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 00:43:36 -0500 (EST) From: "neB .veR" To: TP List Subject: Re: dsp modem from win95 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > i dont think that win95 sees my dsp modem. i am also kinda bummed > that there is no winterm equivalent. it seems the dial-up Hyper Terminal. Its cool. And its got Zmodem. > so, anyone successfully get to the dsp modem from win95 ? Got the one for the TP701 working, so I'm not much help. Ben. ____ Ben Samman..............................................samman@cs.yale.edu "If what Proust says is true, that happiness is the absence of fever, then I will never know happiness. For I am possessed by a fever for knowledge, experience, and creation." -Anais Nin PGP Encrypted Mail Welcomed Finger samman@powered.cs.yale.edu for key Want to give a soon-to-be college grad a job? Mail me for a resume From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 01:54:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18498; Thu, 21 Dec 95 01:54:35 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA24028; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 01:52:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 01:50:13 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA23866; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 01:50:10 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA29754; Wed, 20 Dec 1995 22:47:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 22:47:56 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: Pat Presidente Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: dsp modem from win95 In-Reply-To: <9512210602.AA07284@cln.etc.bc.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII thanks for the reply :) its silent and dark in here :0 someone else mentioned using HyperTerm, which i am doing, but for some reason now i am getting the message that 'Another program is using the selected Telephony device. Try again after the other program completes'. Cold boot didnt help. 'it takes 4 people around a computer to try to make it work, but only one to throw it out the window' ha ha :) i will try again in the morning. night all ........... anyway, no luck as of yet. i do have both Serial ports, A and B disabled. On Wed, 20 Dec 1995, Pat Presidente wrote: > I have the dsp modem working under win95 on my 755 CDV. It is working on > com2. In the Thinkpad setup - serial, I have com2 disabled. I believe this > allows win95 to find the modem and allow it to work on com2. > > Good luck > Pat > > > At 09:27 PM 12/20/95 -0800, you wrote: > > > >i dont think that win95 sees my dsp modem. i am also kinda bummed > >that there is no winterm equivalent. it seems the dial-up > >networking accessory app is for something entirely different. > >when i try to use it, it tells me that it cant find my modem, > >and i think it is trying to look for an external modem on com1. > > > >i am using a thinkpad 755cx. i have a phone line jacked in to the > >connector on the side of the thinkpad box. > > > >so, anyone successfully get to the dsp modem from win95 ? > > > >thanks for any help. i am going to go home and plug my modem > >into com1, and see if that works (i expect it should). > > > >doug > > > > > > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 08:44:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15807; Thu, 21 Dec 95 08:44:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24542; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 08:42:43 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 08:39:04 -0500 Received: from ben.britain.eu.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24185; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 08:38:51 -0500 Received: from qtlon.quantime.co.uk by ben.britain.eu.net via UKIP with SMTP (PP) id ; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 13:38:07 +0000 Received: from tiree.quantime.co.uk (tiree) by quantime.co.uk; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 13:34:31 GMT Message-Id: <19136.199512211339@tiree.quantime.co.uk> Received: from lajudd.quantime.co.uk by tiree.quantime.co.uk; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 13:39:15 GMT X-Sender: ajudd@tiree.quantime.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 13:42:32 -0500 To: kevin@iss.nus.sg From: Alex Judd Subject: Re: OS/2 + portable CD Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu, ajudd@quantime.co.uk Just to let you know that there is a way to install OS-2 using the internal CD-ROM on a TP755CD. Takes a bit of playing around, but I manged it OK. It's a bit of a cop-out as it involves transfering lost of the CD to HD before install, but does work. Will forward the doc I have on how to do it next mail. The TCP/IP OS-2 stuff is provided on disk, and does work correctly. The files to look at are \IBMCOM\PROTOCOL.INI and the \IBMCOM\MACS dircectory. If you have a specific driver for your network card, it will be placed in the MACS directory, and then PROTOCOL.INI should be modified to match. Best way to do this is re-run TCP/IP LAPS once you have it copied to the relevant directory. As a point of interest the SMC8000 drivers provided with OS-2 are REALLY BAD, so use the ones from SMC instead (they work). If you have problems with your TCP/IP disks, LAPS or NFS disks, let me know, and I'll see if I can help ;) Alex At 10:27 21/12/95 +0800, you wrote: >Hi, > >Any help on R. Dewar's request for info on OS/2 and portable >CD machines. > >I don't have any OS/2 machines with CD-ROM here at work and I don't own >a TP75xCD. I managed to get Connect up and running thru' disk images >but can get TCP/IP up because it needs a component (MPTS or something like >that) which can only be installed from CD on an OS/2 machine (unless >someone has found a better way). > >Eventually I'd like a portbale SCSI CD machine hooked up to my TP. >Cheers. > >__________________________________________________________________ > kevin cheong mlp program iss nus > > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 09:06:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16568; Thu, 21 Dec 95 09:06:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26053; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:04:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:02:52 -0500 Received: from vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25836; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:02:50 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id IAA06940; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 08:59:55 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0933; Thu, 21 Dec 95 08:59:09 -0800 Message-Id: <9512211659.AA0933@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id C0D7AF70195DD38D85256299004BA5AA; Thu, 21 Dec 95 08:59:08 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 21 Dec 95 8:49:34 EDT Subject: Re: Internet Phone on TP750 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....it runs in half-duplex only if you have a half-duplex modem, which most 14.4's are....." ~~~~~ jesus, what am i saying?!?!? gotta stop doing two things at once.... it runs at half-duplex only if you have a half-duplex sound card, which most 16-bit sound cards are. the modem doesn't mean much. it really runs the same over 14.4 as it does over the t1. no, i do not <> drink at work. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 09:08:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16573; Thu, 21 Dec 95 09:08:14 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26312; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:06:05 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:04:48 -0500 Received: from peritus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26101; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:04:44 -0500 Received: from tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com (tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com [199.26.191.60]) by peritus.com (sendmail 8.6.12/Peritus-3.0) with ESMTP id IAA27885; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 08:59:34 -0500 Received: from localhost by tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com (sendmail 8.6.9/Peritus-2.0) id JAA18331; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:05:40 -0500 Message-Id: <199512211405.JAA18331@tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com> To: Doug Fairclough Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: dsp modem from win95 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 20 Dec 1995 21:27:26 PST." Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:05:39 -0500 From: Don Markuson -> i dont think that win95 sees my dsp modem. i am also kinda bummed -> that there is no winterm equivalent. ... Actually, if you installed Win95 over your existing Win31 (or to a separate directory), you can still use the old Windows terminal program...just Run c:\windows\terminal.exe (or create a shortcut to it). While HyperTerm is more sophisticated, I found it to be overkill for simple testing stuff like this. ..Don Markuson dmarkuson@peritus.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 09:34:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18088; Thu, 21 Dec 95 09:34:07 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27580; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:25:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:23:47 -0500 Received: from cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27410; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:23:45 -0500 Received: from bnme (bnme.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.152.138]) by cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA08630; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:23:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:23:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199512211423.JAA08630@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov> X-Sender: bnm@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kevin@iss.nus.sg, tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Brooks N. McNeely" Subject: Re: OS/2 + portable CD At 10:27 AM 12/21/95 +0800, Kevin Cheong wrote: >Hi, > >Any help on R. Dewar's request for info on OS/2 and portable >CD machines. > >I don't have any OS/2 machines with CD-ROM here at work and I don't own >a TP75xCD. I managed to get Connect up and running thru' disk images >but can get TCP/IP up because it needs a component (MPTS or something like >that) which can only be installed from CD on an OS/2 machine (unless >someone has found a better way). > >Eventually I'd like a portbale SCSI CD machine hooked up to my TP. >Cheers. > >__________________________________________________________________ > kevin cheong mlp program iss nus > > I just use a SCSI PC card (aka PCMCIA) and connect it to a regular external CDROM drive. The drive itself is not marketed as "portable", but it is smaller than a dictionary - thus portable enough for my purposes (I also share it with my desktop machine). I would assume you could do the same with any external drive (Parallel Port, SCSI, ...) provided it was compact enough and had OS/2 drivers. Brooks From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 09:41:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18282; Thu, 21 Dec 95 09:41:46 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28535; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:37:39 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:37:01 -0500 Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28459; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:36:59 -0500 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA15564; Thu, 21 Dec 95 09:31:10 EST Date: Thu, 21 Dec 95 09:31:10 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9512211431.AA15564@nile.gnat.com> To: bnm@ornl.gov, kevin@iss.nus.sg, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: OS/2 + portable CD "provided it was compact enough and had OS/2 drivers" yes, that is the question, what portable battery operated CD ROM drives have OS/2 drivers? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 09:51:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18918; Thu, 21 Dec 95 09:51:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29455; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:48:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:46:45 -0500 Received: from cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29354; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:46:42 -0500 Received: from bnme (bnme.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.152.138]) by cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA11189; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:45:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:45:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199512211445.JAA11189@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov> X-Sender: bnm@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Alex Judd , kevin@iss.nus.sg From: "Brooks N. McNeely" Subject: Re: OS/2 + portable CD Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu, ajudd@quantime.co.uk At 01:42 PM 12/21/95 -0500, Alex Judd wrote: >Just to let you know that there is a way to install OS-2 using the internal >CD-ROM on a TP755CD. Takes a bit of playing around, but I manged it OK. It's >a bit of a cop-out as it involves transfering lost of the CD to HD before >install, but does work. Will forward the doc I have on how to do it next mail. > I'm not sure about the TP755CD CDROM, but even installing from the CD, one first boots OS/2 from two diskettes. By first copying these diskettes, then making the changes to them to use the drivers that come with the CD (the OS/2 installation diskettes don't seem to support _that_ many CDROM drives), you can then install OS/2 from the CDROM easily. >The TCP/IP OS-2 stuff is provided on disk, and does work correctly. The >files to look at are \IBMCOM\PROTOCOL.INI and the \IBMCOM\MACS dircectory. >If you have a specific driver for your network card, it will be placed in >the MACS directory, and then PROTOCOL.INI should be modified to match. Best >way to do this is re-run TCP/IP LAPS once you have it copied to the relevant >directory. > Warp Connect comes with MPTN (something like Multi-Protocol Transport N...?) which is the succesor to LAPS (LAN Adapter Protocol Support). I believe MPTN may be available separately. Warp Connect comes with TCP/IP Ver 3, which seems to be primarily Ver 2 with all the CSD's applied plus MPTN replacing LAPS. I thought I recently saw an IBM announcement that TCP/IP Ver 3 was available separately - originally it was only available as part of Warp Connect. Hope this helps. Brooks From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 09:58:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19107; Thu, 21 Dec 95 09:58:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29992; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:54:53 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:53:58 -0500 Received: from lotus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29896; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:53:55 -0500 Received: from internet1.lotus.com (crd.lotus.com) by lotus.com (4.1/SMI-4.10801.1994) id AA01433; Thu, 21 Dec 95 09:51:36 EST Received: by internet1.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA08511; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:47:45 -0500 Message-Id: <9512211447.AA08511@internet1.lotus.com> Received: by Lotus (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V.03 Beta) id 7251ECC3DEC7C12F8525629900511E79; Thu, 21 Dec 95 09:47:44 EST To: tp750 From: Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus Date: 21 Dec 95 9:53:38 EST Subject: Warp Connect on 760CD and other install chuckles... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Has anyone gotten Warp Connect to install on a 760CD? The problem I'm having (after figuring out that the instructions IBM gave for Warp didn't totally apply to Connect and I needed to copy the entire Connect CD to a temporary partition) is that after the first reboot, the screen goes blank. There still seems to be disk activity when I hit the return key. It's as if Warp Connect thinks I have a weird video card and programmed it so it's blank. Windows95 had the same problem initially, but after rebooting, it figured out what it did wrong and finished the install. Win95 did figure out that the machine had a Trident accelerator chip and went into 256 color mode automatically. NT wants me to build boot diskettes off the CD which is kind of an oxymoron because both diskette drive and CD drive can't be installed at the same time. Anyone gotten around this NT feature? Finally, now that Win95 is installed, how do you get back to the initial Dual Boot system w/ Win3.11 and Warp? Having lots of fun as you can see, so any suggestions would be appreciated. Luckily, I backed up the hard disk into a tar file before all this :-) thanks, ken From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 10:04:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19295; Thu, 21 Dec 95 10:04:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00759; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 10:01:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 10:00:45 -0500 Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00680; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 10:00:42 -0500 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA15741; Thu, 21 Dec 95 09:54:54 EST Date: Thu, 21 Dec 95 09:54:54 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9512211454.AA15741@nile.gnat.com> To: ajudd@quantime.co.uk, bnm@ornl.gov, kevin@iss.nus.sg Subject: Re: OS/2 + portable CD Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu ">Just to let you know that there is a way to install OS-2 using the internal >CD-ROM on a TP755CD. Takes a bit of playing around, but I manged it OK. It's >a bit of a cop-out as it involves transfering lost of the CD to HD before >install, but does work. Will forward the doc I have on how to do it next mail." This is an IBM documented procedure, that came with my TP755CD, and was quite straightforward, I have forgotten how I did it, and now someone else has my 755CD so I cannot look, but certainly I did not have to transfer lots of the CD to HD before the install, because I had no CD drivers till the install was underway. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 10:26:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20237; Thu, 21 Dec 95 10:26:36 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02509; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 10:24:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 10:20:15 -0500 Received: from shrsys.hslc.org by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02135; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 10:20:12 -0500 Received: by shrsys.hslc.org (MX V4.1 AXP) id 77; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 10:20:31 EST Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 10:20:31 EST From: "Dennis J. Gormley" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <0099B316.6B8D393D.77@shrsys.hslc.org> Subject: Re: dsp modem from win95 We have 9 TP755CEs running Win95 with the DSP MWave modem that we use for telecommunications tasks and training. They all work OK. The guy here who upgraded them from Win 3.1 (or whatever was installed when we got them) seems to remember that he updated to MWave 2.0 before doing the Win95 upgrade. Do you have the 2.0 MWave drivers? You may also want to check the programs under Think Pad, especially DSP and Serial. Under DSP, I have the following settings: Mwave DSP: DSP Device = Enable I/O Address = 4E30h IRQ = Irq10 DMA channel = DMA7 DSP Function: MIDI (not checked) Sound Blaster support (checked) I/O Address = 220h DMA channel = DMA1 IRQ = IRQ 5 Telephony Function: Modem (checked) COM2 (2F8h, IRQ3) Under Serial I have the following settings: Serial Port A = Disable Serial Port B = Disable We use either the TrackPoint, or attach a MicroSoft PS/2 mouse to the port on the right in the back; we've never had to make any configuration changes to use the PS/2 mouse. Good Luck!! \ Dennis J. Gormley Tel: (215) 222-1532 \\ Operations Manager Fax: (215) 222-0416 \\\\ Health Sciences Libraries Consortium Int: gormley@hslc.org \\\\\\ 3600 Market Street, Suite 550 H S L C Philadelphia, PA 19104-2646 Celebrate the winter solstice festival within the parameters of your social, ethnic, and/or religious persuasion. The opinions etc. =-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-= Original message(s) follow: > From: MX%"kensey@wired.com" 21-DEC-1995 00:31:22.22 > Subj: dsp modem from win95 > > i dont think that win95 sees my dsp modem. i am also kinda bummed > that there is no winterm equivalent. it seems the dial-up > networking accessory app is for something entirely different. > when i try to use it, it tells me that it cant find my modem, > and i think it is trying to look for an external modem on com1. > > i am using a thinkpad 755cx. i have a phone line jacked in to the > connector on the side of the thinkpad box. > > so, anyone successfully get to the dsp modem from win95 ? > > thanks for any help. i am going to go home and plug my modem > into com1, and see if that works (i expect it should). > > doug From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 10:52:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22088; Thu, 21 Dec 95 10:52:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04511; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 10:50:09 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 10:47:45 -0500 Received: from vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04310; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 10:47:42 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id KAA09278; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 10:44:48 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA1222; Thu, 21 Dec 95 10:44:01 -0800 Message-Id: <9512211844.AA1222@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id F7D4597991E7E4648525629900561D84; Thu, 21 Dec 95 10:43:59 To: "Dennis J. Gormley" Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 21 Dec 95 10:43:14 EDT Subject: Re: dsp modem from win95 X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain in win95... "....We use either the TrackPoint, or attach a MicroSoft PS/2 mouse to the port on the right in the back; we've never had to make any configuration changes to use the PS/2 mouse....." ~~~~~ i haven't had any luck getting an external mouse to work in win95 on three different 755CD's. works fine in 311. is there a magic word i'm missing? Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 11:25:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24773; Thu, 21 Dec 95 11:25:42 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07219; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 11:23:34 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 11:21:10 -0500 Received: from earth.usa.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07089; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 11:21:07 -0500 Received: (from crumrine@localhost) by earth.usa.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id JAA23600; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:20:06 -0700 Reply-To: "Mike Crumrine/C@C Computer and Consulting Services Inc" Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:20:05 -0700 (MST) From: "Mike Crumrine/C@C Computer and Consulting Services Inc" X-Sender: crumrine@earth To: Harald Skotnes Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 760cd upgrade to 120 In-Reply-To: <199512141322.AA137207323@haralds.cs.uit.no> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ok, the part number listed in the fax I received is: 120MHz Pentium Upgrade Kit 29H9340 Pentium Upgrade with EasyServ Installation 2421095 Talking with pc direct my understanding was that you needed to send it back in for the upgrade to be performed. But the way it is listed implies that you could do it yourself. Mike From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 11:27:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24786; Thu, 21 Dec 95 11:27:50 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07506; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 11:25:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 11:23:37 -0500 Received: from shrsys.hslc.org by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07220; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 11:23:34 -0500 Received: by shrsys.hslc.org (MX V4.1 AXP) id 34; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 11:23:47 EST Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 11:23:47 EST From: "Dennis J. Gormley" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <0099B31F.423099FF.34@shrsys.hslc.org> Subject: Mouse w/755 (WAS Re: dsp modem from win95) Michael: Are you using a PS/2 mouse or a serial mouse? The PS/2 mouse just plugged right in, but I had to jump through major hoops to get the serial mouse to work. And, of course, the TP with the SM is at home. When I get home tonite, I'll make a note of the settings in the Think Pad Setup programs. (BTW, can we use SM as an abbreviation for serial mouse, or would the Exon committee get on our case?) \ Dennis J. Gormley Tel: (215) 222-1532 \\ Operations Manager Fax: (215) 222-0416 \\\\ Health Sciences Libraries Consortium Int: gormley@hslc.org \\\\\\ 3600 Market Street, Suite 550 H S L C Philadelphia, PA 19104-2646 May the road rise beneath you, and may the interstate be routed miles from your door. Any opinions etc. =-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-= Original message(s) follow: > From: MX%"Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com" 21-DEC-1995 10:49:33.85 > Subj: Re: dsp modem from win95 > in win95... > > "....We use either the TrackPoint, or attach a MicroSoft PS/2 mouse to the port > on > the right in the back; we've never had to make any configuration changes to use > the PS/2 mouse....." > > ~~~~~ > i haven't had any luck getting an external mouse to work in win95 on three > different 755CD's. works fine in 311. is there a magic word i'm missing? > > > Michael J. Verne > michael_verne@vmedia.com > Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group > http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 13:02:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00192; Thu, 21 Dec 95 13:02:39 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14640; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 13:00:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 12:57:01 -0500 Received: from vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14456; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 12:56:55 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id MAA22406; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 12:53:58 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA1434; Thu, 21 Dec 95 12:53:13 -0800 Message-Id: <9512212053.AA1434@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id B21C9C1DAC6AF8B285256299005BACAD; Thu, 21 Dec 95 12:53:12 To: gormley Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 21 Dec 95 11:41:50 EDT Subject: Re: Mouse w/755 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....Are you using a PS/2 mouse or a serial mouse? The PS/2 mouse just plugged right in, but I had to jump through major hoops to get the serial mouse to work. And, of course, the TP with the SM is at home. When I get home tonite, I'll make a note of the settings in the Think Pad Setup programs...." ~~~~~ ps/2. never tried a serial. one 755cd locks up when i boot with the mouse attached. the other two just don't respond to it. thanks for the help. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 13:08:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00330; Thu, 21 Dec 95 13:08:26 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15112; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 13:06:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 13:05:26 -0500 Received: from north.pacificnet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14981; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 13:05:23 -0500 Received: from mdk (pm4-10.pacificnet.net [206.101.8.170]) by north.pacificnet.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id KAA18646 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 10:02:55 -0800 Message-Id: <2.2b8.32.19951221180511.00690568@pacificnet.net> X-Sender: mklenner@pacificnet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2b8 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 10:05:11 -0800 To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: Michael Klenner Subject: 360ce Hi folks... I will be receiving my 755cx/24/810/800x600/MWave soon. As I am preparing my 360ce for transfer into the less demanding hands of my brother, I have a question: When I got the 360, I wiped the drive clean and installed only IBM's VESA drivers prior to installing Win95. Everything has worked without a hitch. I do have one qualm though. Win95 seems to AUTOMATICALLY switch the processor to one of its slower speeds whenever the power source is not AC. I rarely use the machine for anything other than word crunching when it's running on the battery, so this never bothered me. However, my brother may want to do more on the go. How do I change the power features under '95 so that it will stay zippy under battery power? Thanks guys! -Mike --- Michael Klenner mdk1143@is.nyu.edu mklenner@pacificnet.net http://pages.nyu.edu/~mdk1143 --- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 13:51:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04226; Thu, 21 Dec 95 13:51:56 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17646; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 13:49:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 13:48:28 -0500 Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17555; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 13:48:24 -0500 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA19226; Thu, 21 Dec 95 13:43:00 EST Date: Thu, 21 Dec 95 13:43:00 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9512211843.AA19226@nile.gnat.com> To: crumrine@usa.net, harald@staff.cs.uit.no Subject: Re: 760cd upgrade to 120 Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu I doubt you can do it yourself, the 29H number will be for the case where the upgrade is done by a qualified IBM service center (carry in) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 15:40:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12196; Thu, 21 Dec 95 15:40:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25400; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 15:33:21 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 15:30:57 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA25264; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 15:30:50 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA26197; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 12:28:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 12:28:25 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: "Dennis J. Gormley" Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: dsp modem from win95 In-Reply-To: <0099B316.6B8D393D.77@shrsys.hslc.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII yeah. right on. i got the same setup here. i am quite sure i have the mwave 2.0 drivers. though, if i go into control panel and click on modems, i get listed 'IBM Thinkpad 14.4 MVave Data Fax', and the mwave 2.0 is 28.8, right ? unfortunately, no win3.1 on the machine. i think at this point i will try to get ibm tech support, although i have heard that ibm doesnt make intense efforts to support win95. thanks again for the reply. doug On Thu, 21 Dec 1995, Dennis J. Gormley wrote: > We have 9 TP755CEs running Win95 with the DSP MWave modem that we use for > telecommunications tasks and training. They all work OK. > > The guy here who upgraded them from Win 3.1 (or whatever was installed when we > got them) seems to remember that he updated to MWave 2.0 before doing the Win95 > upgrade. Do you have the 2.0 MWave drivers? > > You may also want to check the programs under Think Pad, especially DSP and > Serial. Under DSP, I have the following settings: > > Mwave DSP: > DSP Device = Enable > I/O Address = 4E30h > IRQ = Irq10 > DMA channel = DMA7 > > DSP Function: > MIDI (not checked) > Sound Blaster support (checked) > I/O Address = 220h > DMA channel = DMA1 > IRQ = IRQ 5 > > Telephony Function: > Modem (checked) > COM2 (2F8h, IRQ3) > > Under Serial I have the following settings: > > Serial Port A = Disable > Serial Port B = Disable > > We use either the TrackPoint, or attach a MicroSoft PS/2 mouse to the port on > the right in the back; we've never had to make any configuration changes to use > the PS/2 mouse. > > Good Luck!! > > > \ Dennis J. Gormley Tel: (215) 222-1532 > \\ Operations Manager Fax: (215) 222-0416 > \\\\ Health Sciences Libraries Consortium Int: gormley@hslc.org > \\\\\\ 3600 Market Street, Suite 550 > H S L C Philadelphia, PA 19104-2646 > > Celebrate the winter solstice festival within the parameters of your social, > ethnic, and/or religious persuasion. > > The opinions etc. > =-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-= > Original message(s) follow: > > > > > > From: MX%"kensey@wired.com" 21-DEC-1995 00:31:22.22 > > Subj: dsp modem from win95 > > > > > i dont think that win95 sees my dsp modem. i am also kinda bummed > > that there is no winterm equivalent. it seems the dial-up > > networking accessory app is for something entirely different. > > when i try to use it, it tells me that it cant find my modem, > > and i think it is trying to look for an external modem on com1. > > > > i am using a thinkpad 755cx. i have a phone line jacked in to the > > connector on the side of the thinkpad box. > > > > so, anyone successfully get to the dsp modem from win95 ? > > > > thanks for any help. i am going to go home and plug my modem > > into com1, and see if that works (i expect it should). > > > > doug > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 15:53:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13102; Thu, 21 Dec 95 15:53:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26783; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 15:46:33 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 15:45:32 -0500 Received: from shrsys.hslc.org by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26544; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 15:45:28 -0500 Received: by shrsys.hslc.org (MX V4.1 AXP) id 77; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 15:43:49 EST Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 15:43:48 EST From: "Dennis J. Gormley" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Message-Id: <0099B343.95526A22.77@shrsys.hslc.org> Subject: Re: dsp modem from win95 > From: MX%"kensey@wired.com" 21-DEC-1995 15:34:14.01 > Subj: Re: dsp modem from win95 > > yeah. right on. i got the same setup here. i am quite sure i > have the mwave 2.0 drivers. though, if i go into control panel > and click on modems, i get listed 'IBM Thinkpad 14.4 MVave Data > Fax', and the mwave 2.0 is 28.8, right ? Same here. Don't know what else it could be. Oh well! Have some egg nog anyway (unless your lacto-intolerant) Dennis From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 17:27:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18755; Thu, 21 Dec 95 17:27:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03507; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:23:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:21:17 -0500 Received: from alumni.EECS.Berkeley.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03277; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:21:09 -0500 Received: (from hsu@localhost) by alumni.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (8.7/StupidYak 1.0) id OAA19754 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 14:20:52 -0800 Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 14:20:52 -0800 From: Jeffrey Hsu Message-Id: <199512212220.OAA19754@alumni.EECS.Berkeley.EDU> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: taking thinkpad 701c on ski vacation Does anything bad happen to thinkpads when they freeze? I'm going on a ski vacation and am planning to take my notebook with me, except I'm worried about leaving it in the car in freezing conditions. Any horror stories about cracked screens or frozen disks I should know about? Jeffrey From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 17:40:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19301; Thu, 21 Dec 95 17:40:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04602; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:39:12 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:38:00 -0500 Received: from POWERED.ZOO.CS.YALE.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04409; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:37:57 -0500 Received: from FROG.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU by POWERED.ZOO.CS.YALE.EDU (8.7/res.host.cf-3.5) with ESMTP id RAA38470; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:37:53 -0500 Received: by FROG.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU (Sendmail-8.7/res.client.cf-4.0) id RAA19160; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:37:52 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:37:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Rev. Ben" To: Jeffrey Hsu Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: taking thinkpad 701c on ski vacation In-Reply-To: <199512212220.OAA19754@alumni.EECS.Berkeley.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 21 Dec 1995, Jeffrey Hsu wrote: > Does anything bad happen to thinkpads when they freeze? I'm going on > a ski vacation and am planning to take my notebook with me, except > I'm worried about leaving it in the car in freezing conditions. Any > horror stories about cracked screens or frozen disks I should know about? I took a LONG walk yesterday in the Connecticut cold. My thinkpad was in my rucksack. When I got home, and started it up, it made all sorts of nasty whirring noises--its sounded like the bearings were grinding. Ben. ____ Ben Samman..............................................samman@cs.yale.edu "If what Proust says is true, that happiness is the absence of fever, then I will never know happiness. For I am possessed by a fever for knowledge, experience, and creation." -Anais Nin PGP Encrypted Mail Welcomed Finger samman@powered.cs.yale.edu for key Want to give a soon-to-be college grad a job? Mail me for a resume From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 17:48:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19863; Thu, 21 Dec 95 17:48:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05177; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:45:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:44:36 -0500 Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA04999; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:44:32 -0500 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA22999; Thu, 21 Dec 95 17:39:17 EST Date: Thu, 21 Dec 95 17:39:17 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9512212239.AA22999@nile.gnat.com> To: hsu@alumni.eecs.berkeley.edu, samman-ben@cs.yale.edu Subject: Re: taking thinkpad 701c on ski vacation Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu I would DEFINITELY not try to operate the thinkpad outside its operating temperature range. Let it warm up after it has got cold! From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 17:51:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20122; Thu, 21 Dec 95 17:51:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05423; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:49:28 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:48:52 -0500 Received: from park.interport.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05358; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:48:49 -0500 Received: from interport.net (madison.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.1]) by park.interport.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id RAA00434 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:48:40 -0500 Received: (from alster@localhost) by interport.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id RAA20316; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:48:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 17:48:38 -0500 (EST) From: aoster Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: taking thinkpad 701c on ski vacation In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 21 Dec 1995, Rev. Ben wrote: > On Thu, 21 Dec 1995, Jeffrey Hsu wrote: > > > Does anything bad happen to thinkpads when they freeze? I'm going on > > a ski vacation and am planning to take my notebook with me, except > > I'm worried about leaving it in the car in freezing conditions. Any > > horror stories about cracked screens or frozen disks I should know about? > > I took a LONG walk yesterday in the Connecticut cold. My thinkpad was in > my rucksack. When I got home, and started it up, it made all sorts of > nasty whirring noises--its sounded like the bearings were grinding. Uhm...let it warm up to room temperature first...! http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 18:37:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23632; Thu, 21 Dec 95 18:37:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08623; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 18:36:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 18:32:35 -0500 Received: from rmii.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08343; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 18:32:33 -0500 Received: from slip1173.rmii.com by rmii.com with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.1 #4) id m0tSuPD-000JLSC; Thu, 21 Dec 95 16:28 MST Message-Id: X-Sender: lee@rmii.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 16:32:48 -0700 To: Jeffrey Hsu , tp750@cs.utk.edu From: lee@rmii.com (Lee Stewart) Subject: Re: taking thinkpad 701c on ski vacation While I don't recall any real life examples, ThinkPads have an top end operating elevation also. I seem to remember it's about 9,000 ft. You might want to keep that in mind and not take it to the top of the mountain (out here in Colorado that can be 12-14,000 ft). Lee Stewart From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 18:46:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24580; Thu, 21 Dec 95 18:46:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09170; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 18:46:07 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 18:44:59 -0500 Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA08990; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 18:44:57 -0500 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA23510; Thu, 21 Dec 95 18:39:57 EST Date: Thu, 21 Dec 95 18:39:57 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9512212339.AA23510@nile.gnat.com> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: questions on Linux and thinkpads are there CDROM/PCMICA combinations supported by Linux? How about above question for Elf version of Linux? is it true, as we have been told, that you cannot run X on Elf/Linux on a TP? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 19:14:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26558; Thu, 21 Dec 95 19:14:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10613; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 19:14:00 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 19:13:13 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10508; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 19:13:00 -0500 Received: by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp; id JAA13739; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:05:06 +0900 Received: from unknown(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (g3.0.3) id xma013737; Fri, 22 Dec 95 09:05:01 +0900 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id JAA05387; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:05:35 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id JAA03447; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:04:59 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id JAA02479; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:04:28 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Fri, 22 Dec 95 09:04:26 +0900 Message-Id: <9512220004.AA06052@fiat500.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: mklenner@pacificnet.net Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Michael Klenner's message of Thu, 21 Dec 1995 10:05:11 -0800 <2.2b8.32.19951221180511.00690568@pacificnet.net> Subject: Re: 360ce Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp |> a hitch. I do have one qualm though. Win95 seems to AUTOMATICALLY switch |> the processor to one of its slower speeds whenever the power source is not |> AC. Just a wild shot in the dark here, but maybe your Thinkpad simply remains set to whatever you last set it with the Thinpad Fule program. Seems to be that way when I run Linux -- Linux knows nothing about my 755cx's power management featrues, yet they still seem to work just as they did the last time I ran DOS/Windoze. Jeffrey From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 19:26:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27304; Thu, 21 Dec 95 19:26:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11350; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 19:25:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 19:24:50 -0500 Received: from ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11158; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 19:24:42 -0500 Received: by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp; id JAA14296; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:24:06 +0900 Received: from unknown(192.168.254.20) by ocgw.ig.omron.co.jp via smap (g3.0.3) id xma014293; Fri, 22 Dec 95 09:23:55 +0900 Received: by ocgwin.ig.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-ocgwin) id JAA05800; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:24:30 +0900 Received: by hamlet.wg.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb-o2.0/2.8Wb-hamlet) id JAA03565; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:23:55 +0900 Received: by othello.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp (8.6.8+2.4Wb/2.8Wb-othello) id JAA02686; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:23:53 +0900 From: Jeffrey Friedl Date: Fri, 22 Dec 95 09:23:50 +0900 Message-Id: <9512220023.AA06079@fiat500.nff.ncl.omron.co.jp> To: dewar@gnat.com Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Robert Dewar's message of Thu, 21 Dec 95 18:39:57 EST <9512212339.AA23510@nile.gnat.com> Subject: Re: questions on Linux and thinkpads Reply-To: jfriedl@omron.co.jp |> are there CDROM/PCMICA combinations supported by Linux? How about above |> question for Elf version of Linux? is it true, as we have been told, |> that you cannot run X on Elf/Linux on a TP? I don't know about the 755CD's interal CD drive, but I run Linux on my 755cx and have no problem with the PCMCIA support. I use on-demand loadable modules -- they drivers are not part of the kernel but are loaded automatically when a card is inserted. I've used a DRAM memory card, SCSI, modem, and Ethernet cards all w/o any kind of special drivers. Truly "plug'n'work". I also run X. I can't possibly imagine what Elf would have to do with it. It's merely an object-file format. The code that gets executed is the same as the "normal" a.out format. Jeffrey From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 22:25:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09609; Thu, 21 Dec 95 22:25:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22637; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 22:24:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 22:22:07 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22530; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 22:21:52 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA27621 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 22:23:17 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 22:22:58 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: TP750 Subject: 750M -> 750C Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII IBM used to babble about upgrades to color, but it never happened because they couldn't make the color units in sufficient quanity, much less upgrade kits. Does anyone know if they ever did make them? Seems unlikely I can get one now, but I can dream..... From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 22:33:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09638; Thu, 21 Dec 95 22:33:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23378; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 22:32:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 22:31:23 -0500 Received: from MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23167; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 22:31:21 -0500 From: Received: from DAUGHTON.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA12875; Thu, 21 Dec 95 22:31:10 EST Received: by daughton.mit.edu (8.6.10/4.7) id WAA00113; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 22:31:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199512220331.WAA00113@daughton.mit.edu> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Hard Drive Upgrade to Tosh. 1.3G Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 22:31:52 EST Does anyone know if the Toshiba 1.3G hard drive will fit in the plastic caddy. They say it is 19mm high. thanks, Bill Daughton -------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 22:43:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11062; Thu, 21 Dec 95 22:43:28 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23972; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 22:42:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 22:41:42 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23906; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 22:41:40 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA28936; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 22:43:10 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 22:42:51 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: daughton@MIT.EDU Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Hard Drive Upgrade to Tosh. 1.3G In-Reply-To: <199512220331.WAA00113@daughton.mit.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 21 Dec 1995 daughton@MIT.EDU wrote: > Does anyone know if the Toshiba 1.3G hard > drive will fit in the plastic caddy. They > say it is 19mm high. Then it won't. 17mm is as high as you're gonna get w/o bulging, which can keep the keyboard from closing properly. Sit tight - they have a 12.7mm on the way, we're told. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Dec 21 23:16:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13184; Thu, 21 Dec 95 23:16:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26143; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 23:15:42 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Thu, 21 Dec 1995 23:15:05 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26016; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 23:15:03 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA28772; Thu, 21 Dec 1995 20:12:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 20:12:47 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: "Dennis J. Gormley" Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: dsp modem from win95 In-Reply-To: <0099B343.95526A22.77@shrsys.hslc.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII this whole episode make me feel like a complete idiot ! hmmm, maybe i am :) i'll get it though, and i am going to stick this out to the bitter end. stay tuned. doug On Thu, 21 Dec 1995, Dennis J. Gormley wrote: > > From: MX%"kensey@wired.com" 21-DEC-1995 15:34:14.01 > > Subj: Re: dsp modem from win95 > > > > > yeah. right on. i got the same setup here. i am quite sure i > > have the mwave 2.0 drivers. though, if i go into control panel > > and click on modems, i get listed 'IBM Thinkpad 14.4 MVave Data > > Fax', and the mwave 2.0 is 28.8, right ? > > Same here. Don't know what else it could be. > > Oh well! Have some egg nog anyway (unless your lacto-intolerant) > > Dennis > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 22 01:45:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20569; Fri, 22 Dec 95 01:45:24 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04645; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 01:43:40 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 22 Dec 1995 01:41:00 -0500 Received: from tin by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04540; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 01:40:58 -0500 Received: from WOODS.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by tin (5.65/Monsanto1.7) id AA13735; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 00:38:30 -0600 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 00:38:29 -0600 Message-Id: <9512220638.AA13735@tin> From: snmauf@elm.monsanto.com (Simon Maufe, Monsanto CROP IT, V2K, 4-3207) To: TIN"tp750@cs.utk.edu"@cs.utk.edu Subject: mwave 2.0, England in country selection? I rememebr the debat ewhen mwave 2.0 cam eout about homogenized or whatever the spelling was. Confident that countries other than US, Canada and Japan were now available I pulled fown 2.0 from the IBM ftp site, and my llist didn't get anby larger! So, can I keep 2.0 and somehow enable mwave for the Englsih phone system, whence I'll be next week? Is 1.1 still available someplace? Anybody successfully installed 1.1 over the top of 2.0? Thanks ! Simon ///************************************************************************** // /// Simon Maufe ||| MAUFE@TWEETY.DIGSYS.COM // /// Daugherty Systems ||| 314-432-8200 office // /// St Louis ||| 314-257-8018 home // /// ||| 314-694-3207 client office // /// All opinions and thoughts are mine and not those of my employer or client / /// Use anything in here at your own risk \\\ \\\************************************************************************** \\ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 22 03:18:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26292; Fri, 22 Dec 95 03:18:47 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09657; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 03:17:58 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 22 Dec 1995 03:15:45 -0500 Received: from hpserv0.cs.uit.no by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09535; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 03:15:42 -0500 Received: from haralds.cs.uit.no by hpserv0.cs.uit.no with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/IOH-1.0) id AA255330131; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:15:31 +0100 Received: by haralds.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/HJ/Task-5) id AA134790312; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:18:32 +0100 From: harald@staff.cs.uit.no (Harald Skotnes) Message-Id: <199512220818.AA134790312@haralds.cs.uit.no> Subject: Re: mwave 2.0, England in country selection? To: snmauf@elm.monsanto.com (Simon Maufe, Monsanto CROP IT, V2K, 4-3207) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:18:31 +0100 (MET) Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9512220638.AA13735@tin> from "Simon Maufe, Monsanto CROP IT, V2K, 4-3207" at Dec 22, 95 00:38:29 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23GIJ-4] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I rememebr the debat ewhen mwave 2.0 cam eout about homogenized or whatever the > spelling was. Confident that countries other than US, Canada and Japan were now > available I pulled fown 2.0 from the IBM ftp site, and my llist didn't get anby > larger! > > So, can I keep 2.0 and somehow enable mwave for the Englsih phone system, > whence I'll be next week? > Is 1.1 still available someplace? Anybody successfully installed 1.1 over the > top of 2.0? > > Thanks ! Simon To select England you have to get the daa_200d.exe from ftp.pcco.ibm.com. 1.1 is still at ftp.pcco.ibm.com. To reinstall 1.1 I have deletet all files under c:\mwd (uninstall.exe) and c:\mww (delete *.*). Then you need the 2 dos diskettes and 7 windows diskettes to get the 1.1 in place. --Harald From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 22 05:18:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00462; Fri, 22 Dec 95 05:18:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA17687; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 05:16:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 22 Dec 1995 05:13:34 -0500 Received: from deneb.dfn.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA16987; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 05:13:29 -0500 Received: from unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (rzgw.rz.fh-hannover.de) by deneb.dfn.de (4.1/SMI-4.2) id AA03509; Fri, 22 Dec 95 11:13:11 +0100 Received: from bidnix.bid.fh-hannover.de by unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA25506; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 11:12:27 +0100 Received: by bidnix.bid.fh-hannover.de (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0tT4PA-0005MJC; Fri, 22 Dec 95 11:08 MET Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 11:08:47 +0100 (MET) From: Hanno Wagner To: Robert Dewar Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: questions on Linux and thinkpads In-Reply-To: <9512212339.AA23510@nile.gnat.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, On Thu, 21 Dec 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: > are there CDROM/PCMICA combinations supported by Linux? > How about above question for Elf version of Linux? > > is it true, as we have been told, that you cannot run X on Elf/Linux on a TP? I am using the Caldera Desktop Preview II with RedHat as Distribution. I have via NFS mounted the CD-ROM from another Linux-Machin and used my PCMCIA-Ethernet-Card to the net. Caldera (with ELF-Format) automatically detected the PCMCIA-Card and mounted without problem. Also X is no problem with the correct XF86Config. If you want have an example, mail me :) Ciao, Hanno -- Hanno Wagner, Student der Fachhochschule Hannover, Fachbereich IK URL: http://www.bid.fh-hannover.de:80/~wagner/ Rince@IRC *** Fatal Error: Found [MS-Windows] -> Repartitioning Disk for LiNUX... Redistribution of this message prohibited for: Compuserve, Microsoft Network, America Online, Telekom Online and Europe Online ! pgp-fingerprint: A1 86 C4 24 6E 66 49 8A 56 89 0F 46 E0 29 06 12 From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 22 07:18:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10846; Fri, 22 Dec 95 07:18:15 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27365; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 07:17:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 22 Dec 1995 07:15:24 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27200; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 07:15:19 -0500 Received: from girtab.usc.edu (sterni@girtab.usc.edu [128.125.253.145]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.2/usc) with ESMTP id EAA09009; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 04:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sterni@localhost) by girtab.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.2/usc) id EAA20306; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 04:15:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 04:15:15 -0800 (PST) From: John William Sterni To: Jeffrey Hsu Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: taking thinkpad 701c on ski vacation In-Reply-To: <199512212220.OAA19754@alumni.EECS.Berkeley.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 21 Dec 1995, Jeffrey Hsu wrote: > Does anything bad happen to thinkpads when they freeze? I'm going on > a ski vacation and am planning to take my notebook with me, except > I'm worried about leaving it in the car in freezing conditions. Any > horror stories about cracked screens or frozen disks I should know about? > > Jeffrey > Hey Jeff, I dont know about the operating temps on the 701, but on my TP750 Mono i remember going camping up near the Feather River and remeber turnig my TP on one cold morning and it wasn't very happy. The screen flickered for a long time and the harddrive sounded it was going to give out. I wouldn't suggest turning it on outside, regardless of the IBM commericals... (: Good Luck..... -john (sterni@usc.edu) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 22 07:27:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12197; Fri, 22 Dec 95 07:27:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27806; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 07:26:44 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 22 Dec 1995 07:25:58 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27729; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 07:25:44 -0500 Received: from girtab.usc.edu (sterni@girtab.usc.edu [128.125.253.145]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.2/usc) with ESMTP id EAA09256; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 04:25:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sterni@localhost) by girtab.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.2/usc) id EAA20463; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 04:25:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 04:25:41 -0800 (PST) From: John William Sterni To: Don Whiteside Cc: TP750 Subject: Re: 750M -> 750C In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 21 Dec 1995, Don Whiteside wrote: > > IBM used to babble about upgrades to color, but it never happened > because they couldn't make the color units in sufficient quanity, much > less upgrade kits. > Does anyone know if they ever did make them? Seems unlikely I can get > one now, but I can dream..... > Hello Don, I called IBM about 2 weeks ago regarding the exact same question. They told me that they were never available to end users. Not exactly sure what that means. But they told me that it was too costly an upgrade like you said. I noticed, just FYI, the the video featured disk says that the Color TP750 can support 32k color but the 750 mono cannot on external monitors. I forget to ask the technical support if this was a reason for not being able to upgrade. Does anyone know what's up with this? I thought both had the same video card. I wanted to run one of those TV tuners in my TP. later.... -john (sterni@scf.usc.edu) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 22 09:10:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17570; Fri, 22 Dec 95 09:10:23 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04126; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:09:38 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:06:48 -0500 Received: from vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03898; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:06:45 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id JAA16443; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:03:49 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA2270; Fri, 22 Dec 95 09:03:03 -0800 Message-Id: <9512221703.AA2270@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 7E15D9A7E8008E148525629A004C6D8C; Fri, 22 Dec 95 09:03:03 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 22 Dec 95 8:57:28 EDT Subject: Re: mwave 2.0, England in country selection? X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....So, can I keep 2.0 and somehow enable mwave for the Englsih phone system, whence I'll be next week?..." ~~~~~ while we're on the subject, can someone give me the skinny on using mwave in england in general? i'm headed there next week myself, 755cd in hand. it's fresh out of the box & i haven't put 2.0 on it yet. should i? is there anything else i should do or not do? i'll be running lotus notes remote and any one of 1/2 dozen ppp dialers (haven't picked one to install yet) in wfw 311. thanks in advance Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 22 09:47:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19511; Fri, 22 Dec 95 09:47:48 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06895; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:46:32 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:45:23 -0500 Received: from central.picker.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06723; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:45:18 -0500 Received: from mr.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0tT8VB-0004s7C; Fri, 22 Dec 95 09:31 EST Received: from alpha14 by mr.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-a) id AA07694; Fri, 22 Dec 95 09:30:58 EST From: djr@mr.picker.com (Don Russell) Received: by alpha14; (5.65/1.1.8.2/15May95-0912AM) id AA21990; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:30:58 -0500 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:30:58 -0500 Message-Id: <9512221430.AA21990@alpha14> To: dewar@gnat.com Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <9512212339.AA23510@nile.gnat.com> (dewar@gnat.com) Subject: Re: questions on Linux and thinkpads I am running Linux and X on a tp760 with pcmcia. No problems, though I had to move up the the latest Xfree server (3.1.2a) to get 800x600 resolution on the screen. Though I am running a.out, I do't see why elf would have anything to do with compatibility. -- +------------------------------+-------------------------------+ | Don Russell | Internet: djr@mr.picker.com | | Picker International | Voice: (216)-473-5726 | | 5500 Avion Park Drive | Fax: (216) 473-5728 | | Highland Heights, Ohio 44143 | | +------------------------------+-------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 22 09:57:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20008; Fri, 22 Dec 95 09:57:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07647; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:56:35 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:55:52 -0500 Received: from internet.fultech.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA07508; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:55:48 -0500 From: Received: from wayne.fultech.com (wayne.fultech.com [172.16.10.17]) by internet with SMTP (DuhMail/2.0) id JAA28034; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:53:27 -0500 Received: from smtplink.fultech.com by wayne.fultech.com (4.1/) id AA22665; Fri, 22 Dec 95 09:56:00 EST Received: from ccMail by smtplink.fultech.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA819655002; Fri, 22 Dec 95 09:44:27 EST Date: Fri, 22 Dec 95 09:44:27 EST Message-Id: <9511228196.AA819655002@smtplink.fultech.com> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu, Jeffrey Hsu Subject: Re: taking thinkpad 701c on ski vacation If you want to be really careful with your Thinkpad, you could put it in a large zip-lok bag before you bring it in from the cold into a warm building, and leave it in there until it comes up to room temperature. This is what photographers do to keep the higher humidity inside buildings from condensing on the cold, inner parts of photographic equipment. I think this might be worth doing if your Thinkpad has gotten really cold. Scott From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 22 11:24:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25131; Fri, 22 Dec 95 11:24:29 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15227; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 11:23:14 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 22 Dec 1995 11:19:10 -0500 Received: from globalvision.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14935; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 11:19:05 -0500 Received: by globalvision.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA19395; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 11:18:34 +0500 Message-Id: <9512221618.AA19395@ globalvision.net> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: Jane Loyless Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 11:18:54 EST Reply-To: jloyless@globalvision.net Subject: Re: taking thinkpad 701c on ski vacation One of our managers left a TP750CS overnight in a car trunk in NJ last winter when the temperature was well below freezing. I don't know what measures were taken to warm it up the next morning, but the screen had to be replaced. I'd be real careful. Jane cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 22 11:33:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25820; Fri, 22 Dec 95 11:33:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16364; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 11:33:06 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 22 Dec 1995 11:32:42 -0500 Received: from stjohns.ohsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16304; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 11:32:41 -0500 Received: by stjohns.ohsu.edu (Smail3.1.28.1 #18) id m0tTAD1-0007AeC; Fri, 22 Dec 95 08:20 PST Message-Id: Message-Version: 2 >To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: sakaguch@ohsu.edu (Ron Sakaguchi,PC,SD) Date: Fri Dec 22 8:15:24 PST 1995 Ua-Content-Id: Email-Version: 2 Subject: MWave 2.0 fax problems on 755cx Phone: 503 494-8692 Ua-Message-Id: To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Content-Type: Text I'm having some problems running MWave Faxworks on a 755cx with Win95. It works OK from CallCenter when I send a quick fax. But when I try to send a fax from MS Word I get the following error message: Error opening cover sheet control file. Reinstall FaxWorks. MCI error: MMSYSTEM631 FAX error, a file name is required for the execution of this command. I've reinstalled the newest version of FaxWorks and MWave. No difference. I'd really appreciate any suggestions. Happy Holidays to all! rls From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 22 11:37:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25985; Fri, 22 Dec 95 11:37:33 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16827; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 11:36:31 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 22 Dec 1995 11:35:24 -0500 Received: from lotus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16517; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 11:35:19 -0500 Received: from internet1.lotus.com (crd.lotus.com) by lotus.com (4.1/SMI-4.10801.1994) id AA08066; Fri, 22 Dec 95 11:33:11 EST Received: by internet1.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA04905; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 11:29:18 -0500 Message-Id: <9512221629.AA04905@internet1.lotus.com> Received: by Lotus (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V.03 Beta) id 70CAF689F4B08ED78525629A0054F24F; Fri, 22 Dec 95 11:29:18 EST To: TP750 From: Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus Date: 22 Dec 95 10:29:13 EST Subject: 760CD Warp video fix drivers... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Whoops...noticed on the IBM's web site that there is a Warp install fix driver set which fixes the exact symptoms I'm seeing (black screen in graphics mode). I guess it's a simple case of RTFM :-( ken From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 22 11:43:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26482; Fri, 22 Dec 95 11:43:13 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17368; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 11:42:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 22 Dec 1995 11:41:46 -0500 Received: from lotus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17201; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 11:41:44 -0500 Received: from internet1.lotus.com (crd.lotus.com) by lotus.com (4.1/SMI-4.10801.1994) id AA08760; Fri, 22 Dec 95 11:39:40 EST Received: by internet1.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05863; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 11:35:45 -0500 Message-Id: <9512221635.AA05863@internet1.lotus.com> Received: by Lotus (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V.03 Beta) id 118FA29A6E1BE8658525629A00517968; Fri, 22 Dec 95 11:35:45 EST To: tp750 From: Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus Date: 22 Dec 95 9:58:28 EST Subject: more on 760CD install of Warp Connect and NT... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Well, it looks like I'm stuck. Both Warp Connect and NT go to a gray screen after the first reboot during the install. It looks like the autosense routines are touching something they shouldn't be. I hooked up a Sony multisync monitor to verify that it lost sync at this time as well. :-( FYI, to install NT 3.51 using only the CDROM drive, there is a switch in the \i386\winnt.exe program that will copy all the files to a temporary area on your hard drive and reboot and do the install. I just wish that Microsoft had accepted OS/2's Boot Manager as being better because it doesn't require the OS to be on primary partitions. The way I have it set up currently is that it goes to Boot Manager, then to the NT boot menu, then to Win95. Oh well, I digress...this doesn't work... If anyone has contacts inside IBM or Microsoft that would know how to install their advanced operating systems on this too advanced beast, I'd appreciate a referral :-) ken From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 22 11:54:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27193; Fri, 22 Dec 95 11:54:59 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18338; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 11:53:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 22 Dec 1995 11:52:59 -0500 Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18141; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 11:52:55 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 22 Dec 95 11:52 EST From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: Kenneth_Yee/CAM/Lotus.LOTUS@crd.lotus.com Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Msg of 22 Dec 95 9:58:28 EST from Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus Subject: more on 760CD install of Warp Connect and NT... From: Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus Date: 22 Dec 95 9:58:28 EST Well, it looks like I'm stuck. Both Warp Connect and NT go to a gray screen after the first reboot during the install. I don't know about NT, but I installed Warp Connect on a TP760C last month. The only tricky part is the juggling to get the video to work right, which is described in a little pamphlet included with the machine, and which requires a special floppy containing patches to the drivers. The problem: the command file on the floppy that installs the patches is buggy, and doesn't work with Connect; I worked around this by executing the commands manually -- it's just a few file copies. Possibly this is what happened to you -- when the command file fails, it doesn't report any errors, so it appears to have succeeded. Afterwards, when the machine reboots, your video doesn't work right, because the patches were never installed. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 22 12:59:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00370; Fri, 22 Dec 95 12:59:31 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23366; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 12:58:48 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 22 Dec 1995 12:57:10 -0500 Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23227; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 12:57:08 -0500 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 2757; Fri, 22 Dec 95 12:56:44 EST Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.02 on VAGENT2" id 0837; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 12:56:44 EST Received: from lusitania.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2Rx) with TCP; Fri, 22 Dec 95 12:56:43 EST Received: by lusitania.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/950830) id AA29833; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 12:56:29 -0500 From: chet@watson.ibm.com (Chet Murthy) Message-Id: <9512221756.AA29833@lusitania.watson.ibm.com> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Ack! 755CX Linux Slackware install failure! Date: Fri, 22 Dec 95 12:56:29 -0500 The title line says it all. I'm trying to boot from a SCSI CDROM on an IBM Thinkpad DOCK II. The destination machine is a 755CX, with an 810MB hard drive. I've followed the instructions, but obviously I'm doing something terribly wrong, because with: "scsi" bootdisk "color" 1.44 rootdisk (1) if I boot with: boot: ramdisk floppy=thinkpad the boot process asks me to insert the ramdisk. At which point, I insert the "color" rootdisk. It then asks for that, so I just hit return, and then the kernel panics. (2) if I boot with: boot: mount root=/dev/fd0 floppy=thinkpad then it doesn't ask for the ramdisk, but it *does* die when it tries to mount the root (again). What am I doing wrong? I guess this is a true sign of a newbie -- I don't have a clue what's going wrong! Thanks in advance for any pointers, --chet-- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 22 13:08:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00493; Fri, 22 Dec 95 13:08:54 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23792; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 13:05:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 22 Dec 1995 13:04:40 -0500 Received: from husc.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23668; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 13:04:38 -0500 Received: from pop2.fas.harvard.edu by husc.harvard.edu with ESMTP id NAA23681; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 13:04:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from death-star by pop2.fas.harvard.edu with SMTP id NAA22497; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 13:04:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2b7.32.19951222175811.007333c4@pop.fas.harvard.edu> X-Sender: chan4@pop.fas.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2b7 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 12:58:11 -0500 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Derek V. Chan" Subject: Ack! 755CX Linux Slackware install failure! Probably...you're not including a parameter after floppy=thinkpad to look for the adaptec 152x controller in your Dock II. I had to tell linux where the 152x was, and at what interrupt. Uhm...damn...I haven't startup up linux in a while...gee...i think i even forgot my root password...anyone here know how to get around it if you forget your password!???!? >From: chet@watson.ibm.com (Chet Murthy) >To: tp750@cs.utk.edu >Subject: Ack! 755CX Linux Slackware install failure! >Date: Fri, 22 Dec 95 12:56:29 -0500 > > >The title line says it all. I'm trying to boot from a SCSI CDROM >on an IBM Thinkpad DOCK II. The destination machine is a 755CX, >with an 810MB hard drive. > >I've followed the instructions, but obviously I'm doing something >terribly wrong, because with: > >"scsi" bootdisk >"color" 1.44 rootdisk > >(1) if I boot with: > >boot: ramdisk floppy=thinkpad > >the boot process asks me to insert the ramdisk. At which point, I >insert the "color" rootdisk. It then asks for that, so I just hit >return, and then the kernel panics. > >(2) if I boot with: > >boot: mount root=/dev/fd0 floppy=thinkpad > >then it doesn't ask for the ramdisk, but it *does* die when it tries to >mount the root (again). > >What am I doing wrong? I guess this is a true sign of a newbie -- >I don't have a clue what's going wrong! > >Thanks in advance for any pointers, >--chet-- > > ****************************************************************************** "Opinions are like assholes -- everybody's got one" Clint Eastwood, THE DEAD POOL Derek V. Chan (chan4@fas.harvard.edu, dchan@cybercom.net) ****************************************************************************** From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 22 13:13:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02207; Fri, 22 Dec 95 13:13:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24228; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 13:11:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 22 Dec 1995 13:10:44 -0500 Received: from tin by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24127; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 13:10:41 -0500 Received: from WOODS.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by tin (5.65/Monsanto1.7) id AA24466; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 12:06:10 -0600 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 12:06:09 -0600 Message-Id: <9512221806.AA24466@tin> From: snmauf@elm.monsanto.com (Simon Maufe, Monsanto CROP IT, V2K, 4-3207) To: TIN"tp750@cs.utk.edu"@cs.utk.edu Subject: re: mwave 2.0, England in country selection? I'm from England, and the phone system is very similar. Actually it is also antiquated depending on where you're at, but generally the line voltage and the sockets are approximate to US setup. The wires are different inside the socket, so you need an adaptor to convert the US socket in the Thinkpad to the UK socket. The frequencies for the dialtones are different, as are the length and duration of tone and pulse dialing, hence the country selection in the MWAVE software. I did pull down DAA_200D.EXE and it worked fine, I now get a whole list of countries in my country selector. I hope I can buy an adaptor for the socket at the airport.. no time left to call an 800 number... >>while we're on the subject, can someone give me the skinny on using mwave in >>england in general? i'm headed there next week myself, 755cd in hand. it's >>Michael J. Verne >>michael_verne@vmedia.com >>Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group >>http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ ///************************************************************************** // /// Simon Maufe ||| MAUFE@TWEETY.DIGSYS.COM // /// Daugherty Systems ||| 314-432-8200 office // /// St Louis ||| 314-257-8018 home // /// ||| 314-694-3207 client office // /// All opinions and thoughts are mine and not those of my employer or client / /// Use anything in here at your own risk \\\ \\\************************************************************************** \\ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 22 13:59:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06545; Fri, 22 Dec 95 13:59:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26691; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 13:59:08 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 22 Dec 1995 13:57:13 -0500 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26589; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 13:57:11 -0500 From: Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA04528 for TP750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 13:56:38 -0500 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 13:56:38 -0500 Message-Id: <951222135638_77602916@mail02.mail.aol.com> To: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: 32-bit Disk Access Question with E-IDE drives Hi everyone! I was wondering if you need to use a different 32 bit disk access driver for Windows 3.1x for enabling 32 bit disk access using a 540+ E-IDE hard drive. I'm thinking of purchasing a 810 Toshiba slimline and initially I'll have to install Win 3.1x. I know that Win95 supports 32 bit disk access automatically but Win3.1x supposedly needs an updated 32 bit disk access driver to use it. Can anyone confirm this for me? What drivers are people using for enabling 32 bit access under Win3.1x with a larger drive? Also, I've noticed that all the sources for the tp75x faqs are gone including Don's Thinkpad page. The other site: ftp://assistant.beckman.uiuc.edu/wasserman/thinkpad/tp75x.FAQ also has disappeared. Could anyone refer to me a site where I can take a look at the faq? I need some instructions for replacing a drive using an existing TP plasitic caddy. Thanks and Happy Holidays! -Mark Metoki (Mark3M@aol.com) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 22 15:28:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AB12172; Fri, 22 Dec 95 15:28:27 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03034; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 15:27:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 22 Dec 1995 15:26:20 -0500 Received: from peritus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02960; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 15:26:14 -0500 Received: from tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com (tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com [199.26.191.60]) by peritus.com (sendmail 8.6.12/Peritus-3.0) with ESMTP id PAA18163; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 15:07:20 -0500 Received: from localhost by tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com (sendmail 8.6.9/Peritus-2.0) id PAA20513; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 15:13:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199512222013.PAA20513@tiger1.westboro-ma.peritus.com> To: Mark3M@aol.com Cc: TP750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 32-bit Disk Access Question with E-IDE drives In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 22 Dec 1995 13:56:38 EST." <951222135638_77602916@mail02.mail.aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 15:13:29 -0500 From: Don Markuson -> I was wondering if you need to use a different 32 bit disk access driver for -> Windows 3.1x for enabling 32 bit disk access using a 540+ E-IDE hard drive. There used to be a file called tpdisk32.exe in ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/mobiles/ that updated things for 32-bit disk access. However I notice it's no longer there. I can e-mail it to you if you want, although it might be in another unofficial Thinkpad archive (probably the one you can't find anymore!) Here's what the .doc file says: IBM ThinkPad Windows(*) 32-Bit Disk Access Device Driver Ver 1.00 Dec. 27, 1994 ======================================================= What This Diskette Does ----------------------- This diskette installs the Thinkpad Windows 32-Bit Disk Access Device Driver onto your hard disk. Windows 32-Bit Disk Access improves system performance when transferring data to and from the internal hard disk. This driver allows you to use 32-Bit Disk Access on ThinkPad 355/360/750/755 systems with hard disks larger than 528MB. ..Don Markuson dmarkuson@peritus.com From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 22 15:39:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12541; Fri, 22 Dec 95 15:39:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03798; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 15:38:16 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 22 Dec 1995 15:37:33 -0500 Received: from vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03723; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 15:37:31 -0500 Received: from lgate.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id PAA09529; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 15:34:36 -0500 Received: by lgate.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA2824; Fri, 22 Dec 95 15:33:48 -0800 Message-Id: <9512222333.AA2824@lgate.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id A29CB266F0A2A9DE8525629A006FAF81; Fri, 22 Dec 95 15:33:46 To: Mark3M Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 22 Dec 95 15:33:19 EDT Subject: Re: 32-bit Disk Access Question with E-IDE drives X-Lotus-Type: Reply w/Signature Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "....I was wondering if you need to use a different 32 bit disk access driver for Windows 3.1x for enabling 32 bit disk access using a 540+ E-IDE hard drive. I'm thinking of purchasing a 810 Toshiba slimline and initially I'll have to install Win 3.1x. I know that Win95 supports 32 bit disk access automatically but Win3.1x supposedly needs an updated 32 bit disk access driver to use it. Can anyone confirm this for me? What drivers are people using for enabling 32 bit access under Win3.1x with a larger drive?...." ~~~~ i'd be interested to hear the answer to this, because it's been my experience that eide controllers don't require 32-bit disk access. i've been told it's because they already send 32-bit streams anyway. i didn't think this had anything to do with drives larger than 527MB, other than the fact that eide introduced both changes at the same time. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group http://www.vmedia.com/michaelv/ From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 22 19:12:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21126; Fri, 22 Dec 95 19:12:08 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22937; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 19:11:25 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 22 Dec 1995 19:08:42 -0500 Received: from asimov.cnam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA22740; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 19:08:38 -0500 Received: from (eronald@localhost) by asimov.cnam.fr id BAA05378 (8.6.12/); Sat, 23 Dec 1995 01:08:28 +0100 From: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 01:08:28 +0100 Message-Id: <199512230008.BAA05378@asimov.cnam.fr> To: chan4@husc.harvard.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Recovering lost linux root password. HeHe - just boot from boot/root floppies, mount the hard disk in say /mnt and then edit /mnt/etc/password to your heart's content, using an editor on the hard disk if you ain't got another handy :) and I thought we all still had memories of the things we did when we were younger :) Edmund. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 22 21:09:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26541; Fri, 22 Dec 95 21:09:03 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28594; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 21:08:24 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 22 Dec 1995 21:06:24 -0500 Received: from cln.etc.bc.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA28440; Fri, 22 Dec 1995 21:06:21 -0500 Received: from access.cn.camriv.bc.ca (st11.net129.cn.camriv.bc.ca) by cln.etc.bc.ca for tp750@cs.utk.edu (4.1/1.39) id AA09594; Fri, 22 Dec 95 18:05:49 PST Date: Fri, 22 Dec 95 18:05:47 PST Message-Id: <9512230205.AA09594@cln.etc.bc.ca> X-Sender: ppreside@pop.etc.bc.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: daughton@MIT.EDU From: Pat Presidente Subject: Re: Hard Drive Upgrade to Tosh. 1.3G Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu I just installed a Toshiba 1.3 gig today. Plugged it in and formatted using the full drive as a single partition - 1355 megs - looks good. I did have to order the adapter case to work with it ($140 Cdn - so your mileage should be much less). Pat At 10:42 PM 12/21/95 -0500, you wrote: >On Thu, 21 Dec 1995 daughton@MIT.EDU wrote: > >> Does anyone know if the Toshiba 1.3G hard >> drive will fit in the plastic caddy. They >> say it is 19mm high. > >Then it won't. 17mm is as high as you're gonna get w/o bulging, which can >keep the keyboard from closing properly. Sit tight - they have a 12.7mm >on the way, we're told. > > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 23 09:41:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29111; Sat, 23 Dec 95 09:41:05 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18871; Sat, 23 Dec 1995 09:40:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 23 Dec 1995 09:37:00 -0500 Received: from aaRS.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18559; Sat, 23 Dec 1995 09:36:57 -0500 Received: by aaRS.mit.edu (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA09398; Sat, 23 Dec 95 09:37:33 -0500 From: "Arturo J. Morales" Message-Id: <9512230937.ZM9396@aaRS.mit.edu> Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 09:37:33 -0500 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: 16 Meg RAM card for TP750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi! I have finnally given up on waiting for Win95 to take its sweet time loading anything on my punny 8 megs, so I want to buy a 16 meg card. I know this has been discussed before, but I'm now a little confused on what "parity" means... Which cards will work on my 'Pad? I did a quick phone poll of about 6 companies and found that the cheapest I could get was about $670 This is much higher than what someone on the list mentioned a while ago, right? Could someone forward the address of some vendor with a decent price? I can't really afford those prices on a grad student budget :) BTW: If someone needs a cheap 170meg HD in its original IBM case, let me know since I have one just sitting around... Thanks in advance! (Merry Christmas/Happy Hannukah!) Art -- Arturo J. Morales (RPI '94) | art@aars.mit.edu Department of Biology | Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology http://minihelix.mit.edu/top.html | From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 23 10:36:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00254; Sat, 23 Dec 95 10:36:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21776; Sat, 23 Dec 1995 10:35:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 23 Dec 1995 10:34:44 -0500 Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21651; Sat, 23 Dec 1995 10:34:42 -0500 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA05596; Sat, 23 Dec 95 10:29:32 EST Date: Sat, 23 Dec 95 10:29:32 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9512231529.AA05596@nile.gnat.com> To: art@aars.mit.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: 16 Meg RAM card for TP750 actually $670 is probably about the right price, certainly it is a "decent" price. But who knows, maybe you can find a card priced even lower :-) There are probably lots of cheap 170Meg HD's around. it is a pity there is no easy way of copying stuff from one hard disk to another. But wait, maybe there is now, the 760 can take two hard disks, are these the same hard disks that work in the 755, or has IBM yet again introduced new stuff (I have bought several thinkpads, which is one thing, but the number of batteries I have bought is horrible to think about). I suppose the 760 has yet again incompatible batteries??? What do you need to have a second hard disk in a 760? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 23 13:50:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11012; Sat, 23 Dec 95 13:50:11 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00383; Sat, 23 Dec 1995 13:49:10 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 23 Dec 1995 13:45:06 -0500 Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29920; Sat, 23 Dec 1995 13:45:03 -0500 Received: from [128.125.223.207] (comserv-g-63.usc.edu [128.125.223.207]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.2/usc) with SMTP id KAA23570; Sat, 23 Dec 1995 10:44:52 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: whittle@scf.usc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1995 10:53:39 -0800 To: Pat Presidente From: whittle@usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: Hard Drive Upgrade to Tosh. 1.3G Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu At 6:05 PM 12/22/95, Pat Presidente wrote: >I just installed a Toshiba 1.3 gig today. Plugged it in and formatted using >the full drive as a single partition - 1355 megs - looks good. I did have >to order the adapter case to work with it ($140 Cdn - so your mileage should >be much less). So you have, what--like 32K cluster size? Ick...that's a lot more wasted space than I'd be willing to put up with! ;-) ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Home Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 24 00:38:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10128; Sun, 24 Dec 95 00:38:30 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22424; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 00:37:57 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 24 Dec 1995 00:34:53 -0500 Received: from MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA22231; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 00:34:51 -0500 From: Received: from DAUGHTON.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA13278; Sun, 24 Dec 95 00:34:40 EST Received: by daughton.mit.edu (8.6.10/4.7) id AAA00098; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 00:35:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199512240535.AAA00098@daughton.mit.edu> To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Mouse speed under Win95 Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 00:35:24 EST I just installed this on a my 755 and the mouse speed is quite slow. The speed adjustment under the control panel does not work. Any one know how to get this working right? Thanks Bill Daughton -------- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 24 13:41:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24189; Sun, 24 Dec 95 13:41:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27789; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 13:40:20 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 24 Dec 1995 13:35:13 -0500 Received: from lotus.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27524; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 13:34:57 -0500 Received: from internet1.lotus.com (crd.lotus.com) by lotus.com (4.1/SMI-4.10801.1994) id AA03524; Sun, 24 Dec 95 13:32:48 EST Received: by internet1.lotus.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA23153; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 13:28:52 -0500 Message-Id: <9512241828.AA23153@internet1.lotus.com> Received: by Lotus (Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP V.03 Beta) id D8C7F1A54F5AB54C8525629C00633C3E; Sun, 24 Dec 95 13:28:50 EST To: Robert Dewar Cc: tp750 From: Kenneth Yee/CAM/Lotus Date: 24 Dec 95 13:14:22 EST Subject: Re: 16 Meg RAM card for TP750 X-Lotus-Type: Reply to All With History Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain > There are probably lots of cheap 170Meg HD's around. it is a pity there > is no easy way of copying stuff from one hard disk to another. The IBM factory outlet has them for only $70 if I remember correctly. There are ways of copying stuff around if you have a network connection and someplace to drop stuff :-) > But wait, maybe there is now, the 760 can take two hard disks, are > these the same hard disks that work in the 755, or has IBM yet again The drives are the same. > about). I suppose the 760 has yet again incompatible batteries??? Not sure about the batteries. I'll have to look at a friend's 755CX. The Li-ion battery itself looks like a hard drive except bigger, with these notches on one corner edge on the bottom. > What do you need to have a second hard disk in a 760? This made my gripe list in my upcoming 760CD summary. You have to have this special holder for it to snap into their "ultrabay". The thinking is on the lines of the battery bezel. This thing holds the drive so it doesn't rattle around in the huge area devoted to the CDROM drive. Of course, this isn't included (no idea on cost). I also can't hook a real keyboard to it unless I get this mouse Y cable :-( It's too bad IBM doesn't have the bay cartidges like Compaq does; I think the way IBM did it allows them to make the system smaller. ken p.s., I finally got Win95, NT 3.51, and Warp Connect on it. Trident must have screwed up the VGA compatibility on the video chip. It also can boot into the original Win3.1 and Warp install. :-) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 24 16:44:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00298; Sun, 24 Dec 95 16:44:09 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06907; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 16:43:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 24 Dec 1995 16:39:26 -0500 Received: from yfn2.ysu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06605; Sun, 24 Dec 1995 16:39:25 -0500 Received: (from ae547@localhost) by yfn2.ysu.edu id QAA03743 (8.6.12/IDA-1.6); Sun, 24 Dec 1995 16:40:13 -0500 Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 16:40:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199512242140.QAA03743@yfn2.ysu.edu> From: ae547@yfn.ysu.edu (Ronda Hauben) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: subscription request Reply-To: ae547@yfn.ysu.edu Has anyone installed any version of linux on a tp755 CD pentium 75 Mhz with a 1.2 gig harddrive? (or any 755 CD pentium) - I wondered if anyone has succeeded with this machine or if anyone has had experience and run into problems? Also, I wondered if there is any way to install linux from the CD Rom when it is interchangeable with a floppy and what problems that led to. Thanks for any help on this. Ronda ae547@yfn.ysu.edu rh120@columbia.edu -- Ronda Hauben vol 6 no 2/3 Fall/Winter 1994-5 available free via email The Amateur Computerist on The Netizens and the Internet includes: "What Is a Netizen?" "Licklider's Vision and the Future" etc "Net Cultural Assumptions" "Ethics and the Internet" and other articles From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 25 12:27:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15870; Mon, 25 Dec 95 12:27:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06940; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 12:26:22 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 25 Dec 1995 12:22:51 -0500 Received: from yfn2.ysu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06736; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 12:22:49 -0500 Received: (from ae547@localhost) by yfn2.ysu.edu id MAA15311 (8.6.12/IDA-1.6); Mon, 25 Dec 1995 12:23:38 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 12:23:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199512251723.MAA15311@yfn2.ysu.edu> From: ae547@yfn.ysu.edu (Ronda Hauben) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Any experience installing linux on TP 755 CD pentium? Reply-To: ae547@yfn.ysu.edu Has anyone installed any version of linux on a tp755 CD pentium 75 Mhz with a 1.2 gig harddrive? (or any 755 CD pentium) - I wondered if anyone has succeeded with this machine or if anyone has had experience and run into problems? Also, I wondered if there is any way to install linux from the CD Rom when it is interchangeable with a floppy and what problems that led to. Thanks for any help on this. Ronda ae547@yfn.ysu.edu rh120@columbia.edu -- Ronda Hauben vol 6 no 2/3 Fall/Winter 1994-5 available free via email The Amateur Computerist on The Netizens and the Internet includes: "What Is a Netizen?" "Licklider's Vision and the Future" etc "Net Cultural Assumptions" "Ethics and the Internet" and other articles From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon Dec 25 13:54:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19265; Mon, 25 Dec 95 13:54:25 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09573; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 13:53:49 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 25 Dec 1995 13:51:22 -0500 Received: from cs.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09513; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 13:51:20 -0500 Received: from jones.cs.brown.edu (jones.cs.brown.edu [128.148.38.144]) by cs.brown.edu (8.7.1/Bullwinkle1.1) with ESMTP id NAA04457; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 13:51:05 -0500 (EST) From: Sridhar Ramaswamy Received: (sr@localhost) by jones.cs.brown.edu (8.7.1/BrownCS1.0) id NAA04527; Mon, 25 Dec 1995 13:51:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 25 Dec 1995 13:51:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199512251851.NAA04527@jones.cs.brown.edu> To: chet@watson.ibm.com, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Ack! 755CX Linux Slackware install failure! I didn't need the "floppy=thinkpad" option, but in order for the "scsi" kernel to recognize the adaptec scsi board try: ramdisk aha152x=0x340,11,7,1 to tell the kernel where to look for it. The cdrom shows up as /dev/scd0. --Sridhar From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 26 12:05:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14413; Tue, 26 Dec 95 12:05:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18819; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 12:02:45 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 26 Dec 1995 11:54:36 -0500 Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA18305; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 11:54:33 -0500 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 4229; Tue, 26 Dec 95 11:52:59 EST Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.02 on VAGENT2" id 1401; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 11:52:59 EST Received: from lusitania.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2Rx) with TCP; Tue, 26 Dec 95 11:52:59 EST Received: from localhost by lusitania.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/950830) id AA29820; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 11:52:44 -0500 Message-Id: <9512261652.AA29820@lusitania.watson.ibm.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Linux: TP755CE (810MB disk) partial success [and QUESTIONS!] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 11:52:44 -0500 From: Chet Murthy [A description of what I did, with a could of caveats marked with "NOTE WELL". Followed by some questions, for the wise.] Hi, I finally got Linux to install on my TP755, and I thought I'd share my experience, so that other could avoid spending several days at it. (0) My machine is a TP755CE, 8MB mem, 810MB disk, 2.88MB floppy. (1) I started with the Slackware 3.0 distribution, and found that, while I could get my Thinkpad to read the boot diskette, I could not, for the life of me, get it to read the root diskette -- it consistently complained about a read failure. (2) So I hunted around, and found the "minilinux" distribution -- a Linux which fits onto 4 floppy disks and unzips into your ms-dos filesystem. (3) I unpacked it, and fired it up. No sweat. Then I verified that I could indeed read the root floppy, by mounting it onto my machine on /dev/fd0. Again, no sweat. (4) Using the kernel in this distribution, I modified the "linux.bat" boot file and used it to boot the installation root-disk. Note that I did *not* use the installation *boot*-disk. (5) I installed as normal. However, there was *one* quirk. As others have related, the 810MB disk is a 784-cylinder, 32-head, 63-sector, disk. To boot the kernel for installation, though, you have to tell it: hd=1571,16,63 floppy=thinkpad [I also added "aha152x=0x340,11,7,1" for my Thinkpad Dock II SCSI CDROM] But when you now go and use Linux FDISK to partition your disk and set it up for Linux filesystem and swap, if you do a "v" (verify), it will complain *vociferously* about the partition table being inconsistent. The problem is that FDISK is using the current disk geometry, which you just set above to an erroneous value (since the disk has 32 heads, as you can verify if you use dparam.com (which you can find in the LILO distribution). SOOOOOO.... The right way to do this is ... fire up fdisk, and *before* partitioning, do: (a) drop into expert mode (x RET) (b) set the number of heads to 32 (h RET 32 RET) (c) set the number of cylinders to 784 (c RET 784 RET) (d) return to normal mode (r RET) (e) now partition away ! (6) Now you can install Linux, but [NOTE WELL] do *NOT* install LILO on the Master Boot Record (MBR) of your disk. Put LILO onto the boot-record of the Linux Filesystem partition you created. You will need to specify the same options that you did for booting the installation diskettes -- i.e., a *fake* disk geometry. You will find that LILO does *not* boot correctly. You will need to edit /etc/lilo.conf, and add lines like: disk = /dev/hda heads = 32 sectors = 63 cylinders = 784 (and then rerun "lilo") in order to get a bootable system. ---------------------------------------------------------------- OK. Enough of my description. The key point that I found was this: I could *not* read from the floppy drive with the Slackware 3.0 kernels. Not *one* of the boot-disks that I tried worked, nor did the installed kernel. The MINI-LINUX kernel, on the other hand, reads from the floppy just *fine*. I don't konw what's going on -- does anybody have any idea? Thanks in advance, --chet-- From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Tue Dec 26 17:57:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28802; Tue, 26 Dec 95 17:57:00 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07938; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 17:56:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Tue, 26 Dec 1995 17:50:51 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07579; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 17:50:40 -0500 Received: from ppp-mia-83.shadow.net (ppp-mia-83.shadow.net [204.177.71.83]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA08488 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 1995 17:52:03 -0500 From: dwhite@shadow.net (Donald Whiteside) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops Subject: Re: FS: Thinkpad car adaptors - new Date: Tue, 26 Dec 1995 22:49:54 GMT Organization: Tequila Research Message-Id: <30df682e.177519357@mail.shadow.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99c/16.141 Thought this might interest the group. I found it in c.s.laptops. In comp.sys.laptops, npratt@xmission.xmission.com (Nevin Pratt) wrote: >We are liquidating our IBM Thinkpad car adaptors. >$50 each, or two for $85, plus shipping (until they're gone). >These are new, in unopened boxes, for the 355, 360, 700, 720, 750, and 755's. >VISA, MC, or COD. >email or call me (Nevin) at: >(801) 292-7804. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Dec 27 13:41:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16272; Wed, 27 Dec 95 13:41:34 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16256; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:39:59 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:34:07 -0500 Received: from bure.abc.se by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15991; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 13:34:02 -0500 Received: from pm2-01.abc.se by bure.abc.se (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA18329; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 19:33:46 +0100 Received: by pm2-01.abc.se with Microsoft Mail id <01BAD491.73304680@pm2-01.abc.se>; Wed, 27 Dec 1995 19:28:07 +-100 Message-Id: <01BAD491.73304680@pm2-01.abc.se> From: Peter Samuelson To: "'Thinkpadlistan'" Subject: TP755 and SlimSCSI Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 19:27:29 +-100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I=B4m using a TP755Ce and a Adaptec PCMCIA SlimSCSI with Win 3.11 and = Win95. I=B4ve had no problems but recently the system gives me some = headache. Copying between harddisk and CD is no problems but installing from the = CD usually causes i message similar to "file corrupt" or "bad = installation file". I=B4ve tried other adapters (the one in Dock I) and = then the installation works allright, but not with the Adaptec PCMCIA. = Anybody got a clue ? Peter S Stockholm, Sweden From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 29 00:39:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00268; Fri, 29 Dec 95 00:39:49 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA19087; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 00:38:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 29 Dec 1995 00:27:58 -0500 Received: from onyx.interactive.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18493; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 00:27:44 -0500 Received: from anthem.ace.net (daver@onyx.interactive.net [204.97.113.2]) by onyx.interactive.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA06965 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 00:29:14 -0500 Received: by anthem.ace.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BAD584.382BBDA0@anthem.ace.net>; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 00:25:56 -0500 Message-Id: <01BAD584.382BBDA0@anthem.ace.net> From: "David W. Young" To: "'ThinkPad Mailing List'" Subject: damn thinkpads Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 00:25:42 -0500 Encoding: 24 TEXT I was playing with win95 on my tp720c the other day when everything collapsed. Every running application protection faulted. Clicking the details button revealed that the fault occurred in WSPDSF.DRV, which is the old 640x480x256 driver for windows 3.1 that I have to use to get 256 color graphics. After a reboot, the machine now goes into a constant loop of faults right after the pointer is displayed. I reinstalled the video drivers from a backup disk and the problem persists. I downloaded the archive again from IBM's website to no avail. I'm stuck with boring (albeit speedy) 16 color graphics with Microsoft's VGA driver. IBM's position on this particular model of thinkpad is something like denial of its existence. They mention the fact that the 95 support for the 720c is lousy on their website, but don't plan on doing anything about it. Phone calls and visits to service centers lead to sales pitches. Anyone have similar problems? Solutions? Commiserations? Dave -- David W. Young Internet Systems Consultant Tel: 201-798-5217 Pager: 917-313-9319 Internet: dwy@ACE.NET From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 29 03:07:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09508; Fri, 29 Dec 95 03:07:41 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA25838; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 03:07:04 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 29 Dec 1995 03:03:58 -0500 Received: from mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA25667; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 03:03:55 -0500 Received: by mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU (8.6.11/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id DAA07304; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 03:03:47 -0500 Received: (from pcolsen@localhost) by n2ell.columbia.md.us (8.6.12/8.6.9) id HAA01021; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 07:46:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 07:46:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199512291246.HAA01021@n2ell.columbia.md.us> From: "Peter C. Olsen" To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Help! Can't install Linux on a TP-750Cs Reply-To: Peter.C.Olsen@n2ell.columbia.md.us, "P.E." I've been trying for several months to install Linux on a TP-750Cs with a 340MB disk. I've read the Linux/TP WWW pages and downloaded the TP-specific boot disks (and a modified A1). I've used diskparm and determined that I have 914 cyl, 15 heads, and 49 sectors on my HD --- and then used that along with "ramdisk floppy=thinkpad" at the "boot:" prompt ... But the damn thing still doesn't work! Tonight I took the thing apart, reset the ram-card (just in case it was loose), and did a completely clean install. To insure it was clean, I first removed ALL of my previous attempts to install Linux, installed DOS, then removed the DOS partition and repartitioned for Linux. I then tried three completely separate installations, all without success. When I finished the last one, the results were: 1. It wouldn't boot from the HD --- complaining that fsck had returned errors and I had to reboot immediately. 2. It wouldn't boot from the floppy made during the Slackware "Configure" sequence. 3. When I booted from the installation floppy, using "mount root=/dev/hda1 hd=914,15,49 floppy=thinkpad" it a. first booted, but displayed a line stating that /dev/hda had 915,15,49 CHS during the boot sequence, and b. died soon afterward with a complaint that it could not sync in the swapper task. I'd REALLY! appreciate any advice/assistance/hints from someone who knows both Linux and ThinkPads. Peter -- Peter Olsen, P.E., pcolsen@acm.org P.O. Box 410, Simpsonville, MD 21150-0410 USA, 410-997-8584 "Engineering is the art of applying a professional knowledge of mathematics and the physical sciences to improve the quality of life." From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 29 18:02:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24011; Fri, 29 Dec 95 18:02:20 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA14241; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 18:01:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 29 Dec 1995 17:58:31 -0500 Received: from mage.qualcomm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14003; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 17:58:22 -0500 Received: from gjacobs (dhcp-820108618.qualcomm.com [129.46.122.227]) by mage.qualcomm.com (8.7.3/8.7.2/1.3) with SMTP id OAA15470 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:57:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19951229225650.0d3f7b5c@129.46.50.61> X-Sender: gjacobs@129.46.50.61 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:56:50 -0800 To: Thinkpad List From: "Gary E. Jacobs" Subject: Price for a 755CE w/540MB HD, 24MB RAM A guy wants to buy my "old" 755CE w/540MB HD and 24MB RAM. The IBM outlet store has them with 8MB RAM for $3609. Any ideas on what a fair price would be? Gary Jacobs gjacobs@qualcomm.com (619)658-4069 voice (619)658-2120 fax From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 29 18:27:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25305; Fri, 29 Dec 95 18:27:53 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15180; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 18:27:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 29 Dec 1995 18:26:49 -0500 Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15115; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 18:26:46 -0500 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA01026; Fri, 29 Dec 95 18:21:38 EST Date: Fri, 29 Dec 95 18:21:38 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9512292321.AA01026@nile.gnat.com> To: gjacobs@qualcomm.com, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Price for a 755CE w/540MB HD, 24MB RAM well the 16MB RAM card is worth about $600 new, so your total new price is $4200. I usually think something in the region of 60% is reasonable for a used machine that is not too old. So that would be near enough $2500. Certainly a 755CE with 24MB for $2500 is a good buy, maybe you can get a little more, depending on whether you have all the packing, manuals etc, and the original receipt (which would validate the continued guarantee). From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 29 18:36:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25824; Fri, 29 Dec 95 18:36:01 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15558; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 18:35:27 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 29 Dec 1995 18:35:02 -0500 Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15441; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 18:34:59 -0500 Received: from hyper (dwhite@hyper.shadow.net [204.177.71.251]) by shadow.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA07763; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 18:36:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 18:35:56 -0500 (EST) From: Don Whiteside X-Sender: dwhite@hyper To: "Gary E. Jacobs" Cc: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: Price for a 755CE w/540MB HD, 24MB RAM In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19951229225650.0d3f7b5c@129.46.50.61> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Gary E. Jacobs wrote: > A guy wants to buy my "old" 755CE w/540MB HD and 24MB RAM. The IBM outlet > store has them with 8MB RAM for $3609. Any ideas on what a fair price would be? Lessie... how much of the warr is left? If someone had just bought it and turned around and handed it to me, I'd knock off 10% (based on the "I have no idea what the hell happened to this" principle). After a year, I'd knock off 30%. I'd always knock 50% of new-memory price unless it has some kind of demonstrable warr to collect on. I don't think I personally would pay more than $3.3k for such a machine - they are going to continue to drop in price very quickly as new models come out and battery tech evolves. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 29 22:06:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06349; Fri, 29 Dec 95 22:06:55 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22643; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 22:06:15 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 29 Dec 1995 22:04:35 -0500 Received: from fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA22483; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 22:04:33 -0500 Received: by fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.29.1) id ; Sat, 30 Dec 95 04:04:30 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: From: eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Eyrich) Subject: damn thinkpads! To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 04:04:30 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text That's quite true... I had a couple of problems with a mono 720 running os2: IBM told me that the 720 is too old to have the relevant information around. My recent experiences with their helpline were frustrating: none of the people I was talking to recently did know what he was talking about (which isn't always the case, fortunately). When I had a question about the 755CD the guy didn't even know that there is a TP with an internal CD-Rom drive... In Germany it is next to impossible getting to know any technical details of TP hardware. If you need reliable information you have to order the appropriate reference manuals. I don't know why it has to be like this but it seems that IBM prefers that way. Christoph Eyrich --- eyrich@zedat.fu-berlin.de > From: "David W. Young" > > I was playing with win95 on my tp720c the other day when everything > collapsed. Every running application protection faulted. Clicking the > details button revealed that the fault occurred in WSPDSF.DRV, which is the > old 640x480x256 driver for windows 3.1 that I have to use to get 256 color > graphics. After a reboot, the machine now goes into a constant loop of > faults right after the pointer is displayed. > > I reinstalled the video drivers from a backup disk and the problem > persists. I downloaded the archive again from IBM's website to no avail. > I'm stuck with boring (albeit speedy) 16 color graphics with Microsoft's > VGA driver. > > IBM's position on this particular model of thinkpad is something like > denial of its existence. They mention the fact that the 95 support for the > 720c is lousy on their website, but don't plan on doing anything about it. > Phone calls and visits to service centers lead to sales pitches. > > Anyone have similar problems? Solutions? Commiserations? > > Dave > -- > David W. Young > Internet Systems Consultant > Tel: 201-798-5217 Pager: 917-313-9319 Internet: dwy@ACE.NET > > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 29 22:21:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07500; Fri, 29 Dec 95 22:21:22 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23245; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 22:20:51 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 29 Dec 1995 22:20:29 -0500 Received: from shellx.best.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23136; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 22:20:27 -0500 From: Received: from 204.156.137.12 (sandy.vip.best.com [204.156.137.12]) by shellx.best.com (950911.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH825/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA14831 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 19:19:59 -0800 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 19:19:59 -0800 Message-Id: <199512300319.TAA14831@shellx.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 760CD Best Price? To: tp750@cs.utk.edu X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 I'd like to know where you have seen the lowest prices for the new IBM ThinkPad 760CD? Best Price? How much for additional memory? I'm interested in getting a 760CD with an extra 16MB. Any feedback would be appreciated before I make my purchase. _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +-------.oOOo--()--oOOo.-----+-------------------------+ | InterNet : sandy@sandy.com | Reflections By Design | | Web Page : www.sandy.com | Web Design & Production | | Location : Cupertino, CA | Info? Call 408-257-2800 | +---------------- Oooo.------+-------------------------+ .oooO ( ) zzz.|\ _,,,---,,_ ( ) ) / /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_.. \ ( (_/ |,*< ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-` \_) '---''(_/--' `-'\_) From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Fri Dec 29 23:43:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10916; Fri, 29 Dec 95 23:43:04 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26126; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 23:42:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Fri, 29 Dec 1995 23:41:06 -0500 Received: from husc.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA26044; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 23:41:04 -0500 Received: from pop1.fas.harvard.edu by husc.harvard.edu with ESMTP id XAA14442; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 23:41:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from death-star by pop1.fas.harvard.edu with SMTP id XAA05358; Fri, 29 Dec 1995 23:41:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2b7.32.19951230043438.0095ca34@pop.fas.harvard.edu> X-Sender: chan4@pop.fas.harvard.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2b7 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 23:34:38 -0500 To: tp750@cs.utk.edu From: "Derek V. Chan" Subject: How much for 750C w/ 36M RAM? well since we're talking about prices :-) how about the same thing w/ 4 mb ram (can i use the 32 mb ram in the 760CD?) ****************************************************************************** "Opinions are like assholes -- everybody's got one" Clint Eastwood, THE DEAD POOL Derek V. Chan (chan4@fas.harvard.edu, dchan@cybercom.net) ****************************************************************************** From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 30 03:34:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20958; Sat, 30 Dec 95 03:34:10 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA04577; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 03:33:29 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 30 Dec 1995 03:28:22 -0500 Received: from wired.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA04266; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 03:28:21 -0500 Received: (from kensey@localhost) by wired.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA21733; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 00:26:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 00:26:53 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Fairclough To: "Derek V. Chan" Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: How much for 750C w/ 36M RAM? In-Reply-To: <2.2b7.32.19951230043438.0095ca34@pop.fas.harvard.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII sell em off, good move. On Fri, 29 Dec 1995, Derek V. Chan wrote: > well since we're talking about prices :-) > > how about the same thing w/ 4 mb ram (can i use the 32 mb ram in the 760CD?) > ****************************************************************************** > "Opinions are like assholes -- everybody's got one" > Clint Eastwood, THE DEAD POOL > Derek V. Chan (chan4@fas.harvard.edu, dchan@cybercom.net) > ****************************************************************************** > > From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 30 07:44:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00311; Sat, 30 Dec 95 07:44:06 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA17588; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 07:39:50 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 30 Dec 1995 07:37:27 -0500 Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA17509; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 07:37:21 -0500 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.0/1.20) id AA02281; Sat, 30 Dec 95 07:32:16 EST Date: Sat, 30 Dec 95 07:32:16 EST From: dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9512301232.AA02281@nile.gnat.com> To: chan4@husc.harvard.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: How much for 750C w/ 36M RAM? no you cannot use the 32MB of RAM in a 760CD, the memory is quite different, it is EDO DIMMS I think. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sat Dec 30 22:38:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14523; Sat, 30 Dec 95 22:38:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20784; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 22:38:01 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sat, 30 Dec 1995 22:33:41 -0500 Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20464; Sat, 30 Dec 1995 22:33:38 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 30 Dec 95 22:33 EST From: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu (Chris Hanson) To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Anyone get Linux working on TP 760? If you have a ThinkPad 760 and are trying to get Linux running on it, I'd like to talk to you. I've got most things working, but I'm having some maddening trouble: * The serial port loses considerable data on reception at high speeds. * PCMCIA modems lose in the same way, probably for the same reason. * Our PCMCIA network cards have a strange latency, coupled with throughputs between 2 to 5 times slower than they should be. None of this happens under DOS or OS/2 with the same hardware, or when running the same PCMCIA cards under the same Linux version on my TP 755C, so I'm convinced it's a problem specific to the TP 760 hardware. I've run out of ideas and could use some new ones. From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Sun Dec 31 06:34:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12924; Sun, 31 Dec 95 06:34:44 -0500 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA21383; Sun, 31 Dec 1995 06:33:23 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 31 Dec 1995 06:26:46 -0500 Received: from mail-a.bcc.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA21047; Sun, 31 Dec 1995 06:26:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199512311126.GAA21047@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from dialup-2.ucl.ac.uk by mail-a.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Sun, 31 Dec 1995 11:30:41 +0000 X-Sender: ucklw08@pop-server.ucl.ac.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@cs.utk.edu From: "Dr. Alexander J. Annala" Subject: IBM's Refurbished TP755 Price List Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 11:30:43 +0000 If you want to set a price on a used TP755 you might consider IBM's prices for refurbished systems including a software bundle and warranty.