From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 09:20:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08850; Mon, 24 Jul 95 09:20:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03587; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 09:08:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 09:08:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03572; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 09:08:08 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA4532; Mon, 24 Jul 95 09:09:20 -0400 Message-Id: <9507241309.AA4532@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 6637E04FDC5F2C9F8525620300475B7F; Mon, 24 Jul 95 09:09:17 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 24 Jul 95 9:02:30 Subject: Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....Would someone on the list with greater computer know-how than I *please* track down this S.O.B. so that I and others can have the pleasure of flaming the *snot* out of him and perhaps even overloading his mailbox?....." ~~~~~~~~~~ Yes, please share with us any effective methods of locking up this joker's mailbox. I send him/her a 1500 page text file this morning, but it may get bounced. If not, I'll be sending it every time I open my mail today, but if there's a better way, I'd love to know about it. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 09:28:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09014; Mon, 24 Jul 95 09:28:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04804; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 09:20:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 09:20:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04785; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 09:20:45 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA4550; Mon, 24 Jul 95 09:21:57 -0400 Message-Id: <9507241321.AA4550@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 5C2DAE980DCAB15F852562030047B575; Mon, 24 Jul 95 09:21:55 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 24 Jul 95 9:06:19 Subject: Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....Sorry. The poster knew what he/she was doing, and very carefully forged a post via a machine that doesn't log incoming addresses. The message says that it came from physics1.byu.edu, but I don't believe it, because there would be no reason for physics1.byu.edu to route the message through UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU......" ~~~~~~~~~~ My email shows a return address of romance@in.the.former.ussr.ua I didn't see anything about BYU. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 10:19:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11799; Mon, 24 Jul 95 10:19:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08079; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 10:01:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 10:01:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nadia.ircam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08066; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 10:01:46 -0400 Received: from wayne.ircam.fr by nadia.ircam.fr, Mon, 24 Jul 1995 16:01:00 +0200 Received: by wayne.ircam.fr, Mon, 24 Jul 1995 16:00:54 +0200 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 16:00:54 +0200 From: Jonathan Marshall Message-Id: <199507241400.AA10645@wayne.ircam.fr> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.95) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.95) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) To all on the thinkpad list, In response to all the flames against our dear friend Olga from Russia please find enclosed a simple mail-bomb program for any unix system. begin 664 olgadie.uue M96-H;R B5VAO(&1O('EO=2!W86YT('1O(&)O;6(_(@IR96%D(&5M86EL"F5C M:&\@(D5N=&5R('1H92!S=6)J96-T(&]F('1H92!M86EL(&UE6]U('=A;G0@=&\@W!R:6YT("0P*S%])RD*9&]N90IU end Let's hope that this does the trick!! Jonathan From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 11:47:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16741; Mon, 24 Jul 95 11:47:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15031; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:19:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:19:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15021; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:19:40 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id LAA14441; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:23:36 -0400 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:23:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Toshiba HD upgrade In-Reply-To: <199507240143.JAA22684@baijuyi> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 24 Jul 1995, Kevin Cheong wrote: > Just recently.. > > ` ROAD WARRIOR NEWS Vol.1, Issue 5, JULY 1995 - Hard disk drive upgrade > ` IBM: > ` 750/755/360 Series ThinkPads: Standard IDE 2.5" slim-line drive works; needs > ` drive caddie. Just replace the drive in the drive caddie; may require > ` software drivers. > > Anyone did the HD upgrade with a 12mm Toshiba HD? Share the experience. > Prices looks good for a 815Mb HD at $674, DIY installation w/o BIOS upgrade > and $779 w/ BIOS upgrade. (http://warrior.com/arinq1.html) If RW is charging for a "BIOS upgrade" on the Thinkpad, they need to be shot. I don't think that anyone already paying for a drive (meaning they are already getting profit) should pay more then $0.20 for someone to put a disk in a machine and hit a button. See the TP FAQ about upgrading the BIOS with the system disk (available off ftp.pcco.ibm.com) Trust me, swapping drives in the case is _not_ very hard - certainly not worth $100. _I_ will do it for anyone on the list for $10 and you pay shipping, if you don't feel confident enough to do it yourself. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 12:19:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19180; Mon, 24 Jul 95 12:19:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19242; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 12:03:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 12:03:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from micros.micros.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19207; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 12:03:46 -0400 Received: from smtplink.micros.com by micros.micros.com id ab11522; 24 Jul 95 12:03 EDT Received: from cc:Mail by smtplink.micros.com id AA806612649; Mon, 24 Jul 95 12:00:20 EST Date: Mon, 24 Jul 95 12:00:20 EST From: "Gerber, Josh" Message-Id: <9506248066.AA806612649@smtplink.micros.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re[2]: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) I can't decide which is more annoying...the original post (which took only one delete keystroke), or the flood of followups (which took many more). Just leave it alone; the only way to get to this person is if someone is able to trace the message to the real address and contact the sysadmin/postmaster to have the account shut down. Bitching and bombing (to non-existent addresses) is pointless. -j From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 12:38:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20804; Mon, 24 Jul 95 12:38:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21250; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 12:25:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 12:25:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.cs.utexas.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA21234; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 12:25:17 -0400 Received: from darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (mschaef@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.143.204]) by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA25911; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:25:02 -0500 Received: by darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/Client-v1.4) id LAA55237; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:25:01 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:25:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Schaeffer To: Jonathan Marshall Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) In-Reply-To: <199507241400.AA10645@wayne.ircam.fr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 24 Jul 1995, Jonathan Marshall wrote: > To all on the thinkpad list, > > In response to all the flames against our dear friend Olga from Russia please > find enclosed a simple mail-bomb program for any unix system. cool... now all we need is an e-mail address. :-) Normally, I would not be happy about mail-bombing anybody, but this seems warrented. Does anybody have one of the first 'Olga' messages? It might not be so cleverly sent. -Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 13:12:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23275; Mon, 24 Jul 95 13:12:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23591; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:01:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:01:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23580; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:01:28 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04998; Mon, 24 Jul 95 10:00:34 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id JAA24749; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 09:59:57 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9507240959.ZM24747@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 09:59:56 -0700 In-Reply-To: Keith Moore "Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified)" (Jul 23, 5:17pm) References: <199507232117.RAA15873@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jul 23, 5:17pm, Keith Moore wrote: > Subject: Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) > > Would someone on the list with greater computer know-how than > > I *please* track down this S.O.B. so that I and others can have the > > pleasure of flaming the *snot* out of him and perhaps even overloading > > his mailbox? > > Sorry. The poster knew what he/she was doing, and very carefully > forged a post via a machine that doesn't log incoming addresses. > The message says that it came from physics1.byu.edu, but I don't > believe it, because there would be no reason for physics1.byu.edu > to route the message through UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU. > > I'm considering various ways of preventing such things. I don't know how many other mailing lists people here belong to, but "Olga" posted that message to virtually *every* known mailing list, including several restricted IEEE standards body mailing lists I'm on! Robert From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 13:19:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23383; Mon, 24 Jul 95 13:19:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23900; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:07:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:07:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23887; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:07:08 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05229; Mon, 24 Jul 95 10:06:22 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id KAA24762; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 10:05:46 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9507241005.ZM24760@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 10:05:45 -0700 In-Reply-To: Michael Verne/VENTANA "Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified)" (Jul 24, 9:06am) References: <9507241321.AA4550@LGATE.vmedia.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jul 24, 9:06am, Michael Verne/VENTANA wrote: > Subject: Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) > ".....Sorry. The poster knew what he/she was doing, and very carefully > forged a post via a machine that doesn't log incoming addresses. > The message says that it came from physics1.byu.edu, but I don't > believe it, because there would be no reason for physics1.byu.edu > to route the message through UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU......" > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > > My email shows a return address of romance@in.the.former.ussr.ua That's obviously a FakeMail address. Don't even bother... Robert From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 13:26:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24273; Mon, 24 Jul 95 13:26:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24286; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:12:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:12:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24276; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:12:46 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA4938; Mon, 24 Jul 95 13:13:58 -0400 Message-Id: <9507241713.AA4938@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 3E0E6AA9FC07039C85256203005CB669; Mon, 24 Jul 95 13:13:37 To: lee , tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 24 Jul 95 13:02:28 Subject: Re: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....I've got a 755C. I want to be able to use a few 32-bit windows applications, but everytime I try and execute one, I get a "DOS error 21" message in a window. Does anyone know what causes this?...." ~~~~~~~~~~ I don't know how this relates specifically to thinkpads, but I've seen this error on several of our machines, including the thinkpads, when first installing 32-bit apps. What I've done is turn on 32-Bit File Access in Control Panel, 386Enh, and set the smartdrv.exe windows parameter to 512 (if there's no parameter set, I think it defaults to 128) in the autoexec.bat: C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE 1024 512 The first number is the DOS buffer size & the second is the Windows buffer. Without this parameter, or with it set to a lower number, I've seen "Unexpected Dos Error", "DOS Error 21", and "EMM386 has detected....... reboot your machine" errors. Hope this helps. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 13:29:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24468; Mon, 24 Jul 95 13:29:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24561; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:16:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:16:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24550; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:15:59 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.43] (mac43.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA20974; Mon, 24 Jul 95 13:15:42 EDT Message-Id: <9507241715.AA20974@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 13:27:28 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Olga die die die I heartily agree that there is no point in wasting time bitching if we don't have a way of singling out the responsible person. If some smart person can get this guy's address, great. If not, we just have to live with it...unless... I don't know if this is possible, but if it is somebody on this list will know how. It seems like it should be possible to filter out all submissions to the tp list from people who are not already on the tp list. This would cut out Olga, and also eliminate the occasional misplaced subscription request message (unfortunately, it would not affect the unsubscribe messages). Can this be done without placing undue hardship on the list maintainer? ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 15:02:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29753; Mon, 24 Jul 95 15:02:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01818; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 14:42:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 14:42:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA01807; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 14:42:27 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA27550; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:42:19 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id LAA27613; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:42:17 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199507241842.LAA27613@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Toshiba HD upgrade To: dwhite@shadow.net (Don Whiteside) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Don Whiteside" at Jul 24, 95 11:23:35 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Trust me, swapping drives in the case is _not_ very hard - certainly not > worth $100. _I_ will do it for anyone on the list for $10 and you pay > shipping, if you don't feel confident enough to do it yourself. What I'm curious about Don, is if one can get away without using *any* hard drive enclosure at all? I'd like to stick OS/2 or somesuch on my existing 340 MB hard drive and then be able to swap hard drives--but presumably I'll need to plastic casings/caddies for that. Don't suppose anyone has one handy? ;) ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 15:59:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05224; Mon, 24 Jul 95 15:59:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08380; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 15:44:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 15:44:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.cs.utexas.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA08370; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 15:44:24 -0400 Received: from darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (mschaef@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.143.204]) by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA06705; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 14:44:22 -0500 Received: by darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/Client-v1.4) id OAA18382; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 14:44:21 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 14:44:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Schaeffer To: Victor Kress Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Olga die die die In-Reply-To: <9507241715.AA20974@gl.ciw.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 24 Jul 1995, Victor Kress wrote: > I heartily agree that there is no point in wasting time bitching if we > don't have a way of singling out the responsible person. If some smart > person can get this guy's address, great. If not, we just have to live > with it...unless... > I don't know if this is possible, but if it is somebody on this list will > know how. It seems like it should be possible to filter out all > submissions to the tp list from people who are not already on the tp list. > This would cut out Olga, and also eliminate the occasional misplaced > subscription request message (unfortunately, it would not affect the > unsubscribe messages). Can this be done without placing undue hardship on > the list maintainer? Can procmail be used to do this w/o compromising the performance of the list too badly? Or is procmail the right tool for the job? Or maybe the answer is to modify the program running the list. -Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 16:23:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07434; Mon, 24 Jul 95 16:23:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10333; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 16:09:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 16:09:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from imag.imag.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10319; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 16:09:38 -0400 Received: from safran-28 (safran.imag.fr [129.88.29.1]) by imag.imag.fr (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA05908; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 22:09:21 +0200 Received: (elf@localhost) by safran-28 (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.4) id WAA25990; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 22:09:21 +0200 Message-Id: <199507242009.WAA25990@safran-28> From: Eugene.Fiume@imag.fr (Eugene Fiume) Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 22:09:20 -0600 In-Reply-To: Victor Kress's message as of Jul 24, 7:36pm X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress), tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Olga die die die I dunno. It once again seems so easy to use the "d" key, but if you are really interested in tracing the culprit, a sysadmin at cs.utk.edu can go through the smtp log (assuming it's a unix box) and try to find the node from which this mail message was sent. It's possible to forge this too, but it's a little less easy to do than to simply forge the "From" field (which is truly novice hacker stuff). Catching a less boring forger would require a realtime trace for which few people have the patience. The beauty of unix is its simplicity. Using the simplest of tools, it's very easy to connect to a host and send a message under an assumed name. If someone one has mastered this, then a sysadmin would have to be in the right place at the right time to catch the culprit. Long mail messages or overly frequent use would expose such a person, so don't expect such messages to happen very often. So...use the "d" key. Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 17:13:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10377; Mon, 24 Jul 95 17:13:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14564; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:00:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:00:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA14532; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:00:37 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA5157; Mon, 24 Jul 95 17:01:49 -0400 Message-Id: <9507242101.AA5157@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id AF09A4012889CF1A8525620300724DA2; Mon, 24 Jul 95 17:01:46 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 24 Jul 95 16:52:38 Subject: CLAs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain I'm about to purchase a couple of cigarette lighter adapters for the 360 and a 360C. IBM PN 49G2167. IBM also recommended LIN Electronics PN APA2691. Before I shoot myself in the foot, does anyone have any experience with these? any "undocumented features" I should know about? thanks in advance, Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 17:39:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11439; Mon, 24 Jul 95 17:39:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17865; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:28:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:28:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17842; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:28:07 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16599; Mon, 24 Jul 95 14:27:12 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) id OAA24932; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 14:27:14 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9507241427.ZM24930@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 14:27:13 -0700 In-Reply-To: Eugene.Fiume@imag.fr (Eugene Fiume) "Re: Olga die die die" (Jul 24, 10:09pm) References: <199507242009.WAA25990@safran-28> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: Eugene.Fiume@imag.fr (Eugene Fiume), tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Olga die die die Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jul 24, 10:09pm, Eugene Fiume wrote: > Subject: Re: Olga die die die > I dunno. It once again seems so easy to use the "d" key, but if you > are really interested in tracing the culprit, a sysadmin at cs.utk.edu > can go through the smtp log (assuming it's a unix box) and try to find > the node from which this mail message was sent. It's possible to forge > this too, but it's a little less easy to do than to simply forge the > "From" field (which is truly novice hacker stuff). I don't know if I'd call this "less easy". There are several widely distributed c-shell scripts which will do this for you, like FakeMail and BlackMail. > The beauty of unix is its simplicity. Using the simplest of tools, > it's very easy to connect to a host and send a message under an assumed > name. This is why you won't be able to trace the message by going through cs.utk.edu's sendmail logs. Set your ThinkPad's hostname to some bogus name, then telnet cs.utk.edu 25 (25 is the socket number for the sendmail daemon) ...and you can tell the utk senmail daemon you're anyone you want to be. At this point, since they've posted to virtually every mailing list in the universe, I'm sure there are a lot of people tracking this idiot down. I would guess that the problem will solve itself. Robert From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 18:01:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14124; Mon, 24 Jul 95 18:01:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19763; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:52:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:52:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from granite.sentex.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA19753; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:51:59 -0400 Received: from localhost (hornett@localhost) by granite.sentex.net (8.6.5/8.6.9) id SAA20658; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 18:09:46 -0400 Message-Id: <199507242209.SAA20658@granite.sentex.net> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: David R Hornett Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 17:53:11 EST Reply-To: David R Hornett Subject: Aftermarket Batt in tp750c Does anyone know if the 750c has support for aftermarket 'dumb' batteries Just bought one and cant seem to get it to charge...the battery status light just flashes between amber and green (rapidly) Any ideas???? David R Hornett Thinkpad 750c 12 meg ram 340 hd Dock II with 4x cd rom 14.4 data fax mghrtz hornett@sentex.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 19:02:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17266; Mon, 24 Jul 95 19:02:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24529; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 18:52:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 18:52:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24520; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 18:52:12 -0400 Received: from localhost by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id SAA17912; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 18:52:10 -0400 Message-Id: <199507242252.SAA17912@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: Mike Schaeffer Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Olga die die die In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 24 Jul 1995 14:44:21 CDT." Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 18:52:04 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU > Can procmail be used to do this w/o compromising the performance > of the list too badly? Or is procmail the right tool for the job? Or > maybe the answer is to modify the program running the list. I've already said that I'm looking into possible solutions. Procmail/SmartList is one of them. However, I had hoped to avoid burdening the list with discussion of such topics. In the future, I suggest that correspondence about how the list is run be sent to tp750-REQUEST@cs.utk.edu...that is, unless you think it's really something that the whole list wants to know about. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 21:24:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26316; Mon, 24 Jul 95 21:24:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02922; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:12:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:12:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02912; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:12:13 -0400 Received: from champion.tcs.co.jp by champion.tcs.co.jp (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA11384; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:13:41 +0900 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:13:41 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199507250113.KAA11384@Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp> To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, lee@champion.tcs.co.jp, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs >What I've done is turn on 32-Bit File Access in >Control Panel, 386Enh, and set the smartdrv.exe windows parameter to 512 Hmm... I don't seem to have a 32-Bit File Access toggle in my control panel. Is there something special you have to do to get this to appear? Or perhaps you have a modified control panel program? I've set the smartdrv parameters... but by themselves, the DOS error 21 still persists. I'm still wondering if an "out of the box" windows 3.1 is the same as what was origonally installed on my thinkpad. Thanks for the help. -Lee From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 21:56:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27179; Mon, 24 Jul 95 21:56:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05086; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:44:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:44:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from baijuyi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05051; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:44:09 -0400 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by baijuyi (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id JAA27272; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:40:41 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199507250140.JAA27272@baijuyi> Subject: Re: Toshiba HD upgrade To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randal Whittle) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:40:41 +0800 (WAUST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199507241842.LAA27613@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at Jul 24, 95 11:42:09 am Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text ``..Randal Whittle writes, ` Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 11:42:09 -0700 (PDT) ` ` > Trust me, swapping drives in the case is _not_ very hard - certainly not ` > worth $100. _I_ will do it for anyone on the list for $10 and you pay ` > shipping, if you don't feel confident enough to do it yourself. ` ` What I'm curious about Don, is if one can get away without using ` *any* hard drive enclosure at all? ` ` I'd like to stick OS/2 or somesuch on my existing 340 MB hard ` drive and then be able to swap hard drives--but presumably I'll need ` to plastic casings/caddies for that. Don't suppose anyone has one ` handy? ;) Didn't RW say they'd provide a caddy? __________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 03:04:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14637; Tue, 25 Jul 95 03:04:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23940; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 02:50:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 02:50:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA23919; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 02:50:11 -0400 From: Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA28815; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 01:50:07 -0500 Message-Id: <9507250650.AA28815@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 02:51:31 EST Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu Subject: Sound under Win-OS/2 Was there some sort of special procedure to get multimedia sound working under Win-OS/2 on a TP750 (the one with the Crystal Semi sound chipset)? I could've sworn I'd gotten it working before, but I've reinstalled Win-OS/2 and MMOS/2 several times without any luck. The Win-OS/2 system sounds are greyed out, and every time I try to start a multimedia app, it complains that there are no drivers installed. I go to install drivers in the control panel and there are no crystal semi drivers. This is a late gamma of Warp with Win-OS/2, the one that came with DevCon. If someone else knows what's up, great. Or if you have the release version of Warp with Win-OS/2 and don't have any problems, tell me and I'll see if I can get an updated version. ____________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@uni.uiuc.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 10:04:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06412; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:04:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25458; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:47:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:47:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25446; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:47:53 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA5567; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:49:04 -0400 Message-Id: <9507251349.AA5567@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id DBEC5E87F0786AE9852562040049750F; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:49:01 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 25 Jul 95 9:30:41 Subject: Re: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....Hmm... I don't seem to have a 32-Bit File Access toggle in my control panel. Is there something special you have to do to get this to appear? Or perhaps you have a modified control panel program? I've set the smartdrv parameters... but by themselves, the DOS error 21 still persists. I'm still wondering if an "out of the box" windows 3.1 is the same as what was origonally installed on my thinkpad......" ~~~~~~~~~~ 32-Bit file access may only be in 3.11. We have the WFWG 3.11 upgrade on all our thinkpads (around $40). That may be the difference. I don't think Win32s would add this to the Control Panel and I assume you've already installed this, so I'd go with the upgrade. The WFWG upgrade is one of the first things I do with incoming thinkpads, so I haven't really looked at Win 3.1 much. The WFWG license also includes WinTCP, which is the easiest TCP/IP stack I've ever configured, so if you can make use of that, it's worth the price. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 10:04:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06417; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:04:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25433; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:47:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:47:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Phoenix.ERC.MsState.Edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25423; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:47:41 -0400 Received: from muffin.ERC.MsState.Edu (dbridges@Muffin.ERC.MsState.Edu [192.208.137.6]); by Phoenix.ERC.MsState.Edu using ESMTP (8.6.8.1/7.0m-FWP-MsState); id IAA10494; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 08:48:09 -0500 From: Douglas Bridges Received: by muffin.ERC.MsState.Edu (8.6.8.1/6.0c-FWP); id IAA00501; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 08:48:08 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 08:48:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199507251348.IAA00501@muffin.ERC.MsState.Edu> To: lee@champion.tcs.co.jp Subject: Re: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ----- Begin Included Message ----- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 24 20:26:06 1995 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:12:17 EDT Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:13:41 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, lee@champion.tcs.co.jp, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs Content-Length: 554 >What I've done is turn on 32-Bit File Access in >Control Panel, 386Enh, and set the smartdrv.exe windows parameter to 512 Hmm... I don't seem to have a 32-Bit File Access toggle in my control panel. Is there something special you have to do to get this to appear? Or perhaps you have a modified control panel program? I've set the smartdrv parameters... but by themselves, the DOS error 21 still persists. I'm still wondering if an "out of the box" windows 3.1 is the same as what was origonally installed on my thinkpad. Thanks for the help. -Lee ----- End Included Message ----- Out of the box Windows 3.1 is the same that comes with the Thinkpads. IBM supplies vanilla MSWindows on their machines. Windows 3.1 does not come with 32-File access. That is only supplied in Windows for Workgroups ver. 3.11. You might want to try updating your Win32 to whatever the latest version is on the Microsoft BBS. You can get them by ftp from fto.microsoft.com. I hope this helps. Douglas Bridges dbridges@erc.msstate.edu http://www.erc.msstate.edu/~dbridges/ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 10:35:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08483; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:35:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28474; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:21:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:21:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from doblegate.doble.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28452; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:21:35 -0400 From: Received: from ccMail by doblegate.doble.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 014fd160; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:17:58 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:17:29 -0400 Message-Id: <014fd160@doblegate.doble.com> To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, lee@champion.tcs.co.jp, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, Lee Hounshell Subject: Re[2]: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.806681878" This is a Mime message, which your current mail reader may not understand. Parts of the message will appear as text. To process the rest, you will have to use a Mime compatible mail reader. Contact your vendor for details. --IMA.Boundary.806681878 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Hello, 32-bit file access was in the Version 3.11 "upgrade". You may have gotten the original Version 3.1. You can get the upgrade by ftping to ftp.microsoft.com. You also need to peruse the WDL (Windows Driver Library) for upgraded drivers as the upgrade file only upgrades the main windows exes. 73 Eric WB1HBU ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs Author: Lee Hounshell at Doble-Internet Date: 7/25/95 10:13 AM >What I've done is turn on 32-Bit File Access in >Control Panel, 386Enh, and set the smartdrv.exe windows parameter to 512 Hmm... I don't seem to have a 32-Bit File Access toggle in my control panel. Is there something special you have to do to get this to appear? Or perhaps you have a modified control panel program? I've set the smartdrv parameters... but by themselves, the DOS error 21 still persists. I'm still wondering if an "out of the box" windows 3.1 is the same as what was origonally installed on my thinkpad. Thanks for the help. -Lee --IMA.Boundary.806681878 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Received: from [128.169.94.1] by doblegate.doble.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 01448370; Mon, 24 Jul 95 21:26:16 -0400 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02922; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:12:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:12:17 EDT Errors-to: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02912; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:12:13 -0400 Received: from champion.tcs.co.jp by champion.tcs.co.jp (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP i d KAA11384; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:13:41 +0900 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:13:41 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199507250113.KAA11384@Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp> To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, lee@champion.tcs.co.jp, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs --IMA.Boundary.806681878-- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 10:35:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08488; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:35:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28280; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:20:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:20:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA28269; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:20:45 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA23613 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:20:40 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:20:40 -0500 Message-Id: <199507251420.JAA23613@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: Re: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs At 10:13 AM 7/25/95 +0900, you wrote: >I've set the smartdrv parameters... but by themselves, the DOS error 21 still >persists. I'm still wondering if an "out of the box" windows 3.1 is the same >as what was origonally installed on my thinkpad. > Yes, I think it is. In the past I have installed the "out of the box" windows 3.1 from scratch onto a thinkpad 750C with success. the only "tricky" part that I remember was that you had to say at some part in the install to utilize "DOS with APM" as opposed to just "DOS". then, of course, had to install all the thinkpad drivers/utilities (way back when, thinkpads only had PC-DOS preinstalled!) --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 10:39:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08629; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:39:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29192; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:30:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:30:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rouge.phys.lsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29175; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:30:45 -0400 Received: by rouge.phys.lsu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17804; Tue, 25 Jul 95 09:20:22 CDT From: sabo@rouge.phys.lsu.edu (Kristin C. Sabo (esq.)) Message-Id: <9507251420.AA17804@rouge.phys.lsu.edu> Subject: Re: Letter from Olga To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, ani-l@utkvm1.utk.edu, MEDITATION@beach.utmb.edu Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:20:22 -0500 (CDT) Cc: RESIDENTS@beach.utmb.edu Content-Type: text > Not to long ago, I posted a message re: meeting women of the former > soviet union through romance ads. Yes, this SPAM has gone on long enough. Anyone finally able to track the jerk responsible for same down, please let us know. Plllleeeeezzzeee? But there is humor to be found in all this. I thought you'd enjoy the following from WILDWEST, The Wild Wild West e-mail group: Message 7/21 From Deborah Rich Jul 24, 95 09:00:22 am -0400 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 1995 09:00:22 -0400 (EDT) To: wildwest@moose.uvm.edu Subject: Re: letter from Olga! =) (Unverified) A Letter from President Grant: Gentlemen, I have reason to suspect our country is in considerable danger. I have been informed that a Russian spy has infiltrated the U.S. Government. Please gentlemen, return at once to Washington and assist us in her capture. Her name is Olga and here is a clip of an interrupted message she was sending to Moscow: > "I have already sent your ad to the papers in such towns: Moscow, >St. Petersburg, Vladimir, Kazan. At nearest future I will send your ad to the >paper in some more 12 towns of Russia, where papers are published. We are not sure of the contents of the ad she mentions, gentlemen. But I fear the worst. Jim, Artie- I am counting on you to find this woman and stop this activity. Beware, I understand she is considerably beautiful and somewhat amorous. Don't be fooled! She is a most clever woman and will use you to obtain her goals. Thank You and Godspeed. President Grant -- M, BATR Kris -> Just another public service announcement from your Cruise Director <- ==>> NEW FOLKS: Get the WILDWEST FAQ for answers to all those burning questions. Requests to: sabo@rouge.phys.lsu.edu ............................... Kristin C. 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From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 10:58:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09398; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:58:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00950; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:48:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:48:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tin by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00938; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:48:18 -0400 Received: from WOODS.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by tin (5.65/Monsanto1.7) id AA10578; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:36:00 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 09:36:00 -0500 Message-Id: <9507251436.AA10578@tin> From: lrbris@elm.monsanto.com (Lou Briscoe V1K 4-8126) To: "tp750@cs.utk.edu"@tin Cc: LRBRIS@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Introduction for Lou Briscoe Hello, I'm Lou Briscoe, a VAX systems manager for Monsanto Company in St. Louis, Missouri, USA. I have a ThinkPad 755CD (model 9545-9BD) with the Intel 486 DX-100MHz processor, 5.25" CD ROM Drive, 540MB Hard disk, and 24MB memory. I'm currently running Windows 3.1. I'm using the Dock II here at work, and hope to have it set up to run an X-windows ap via SLIP on my phone line at home to get to my VAX motif applications here at work. I'm a PC novice, so getting all these 755CD features to actually work is proving to be a real challenge for me. Lou lrbris@maple.monsanto.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 11:20:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10258; Tue, 25 Jul 95 11:20:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03317; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:11:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:10:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03306; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:10:57 -0400 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA24660; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:06:05 -0400 Message-Id: <9507251506.AA24660@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: WarpConnect + PortReplicator I + PCMCIA ethernet; hot docking? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:06:04 -0400 (EDT) Cc: lrj@hepth.cornell.edu (Lew Jansen) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text I don't remember if I asked this here already; sorry if it's a repeat: I'm about to order an SVGA 755CX and will be putting it on my home ethernet. I'd like to use a Port Replicator I with a PCMCIA ethernet card, and be able to "hot dock" it; connect and disconnect the machine from the ethernet without having to reboot Warp Connect. I talked with 3Com tech support and they stated that they'd tried this and their 3C589B card is not hot-swappable under Warp Connect. 'Tis a shame, as the promotional pricing is very tempting. I then spoke with IBM tech support and learned that IBM says that you have to physically turn the 755 off when docking/undocking the Port Replicator; making the question of hot-swapping the ethernet card a moot point. While I understand that you don't really want to connect/disconnect the expansion bus while the machine is running, it seems odd that you can't do this in a suspended state. My questions to the list are: Do you *really* have to turn off the 755, or are you likely to be safe just suspending or hibernating (suspend-to-disk) the machine? If you can just suspend the 755CX, can anyone suggest a 10base2 ethernet card that I can leave in the Port Replicator I and not have to reboot Warp Connect when docking/undocking? The IBM tech support guy said that this would work with the Dock II, but unfortunately it just doesn't fit my needs; I'd have to buy an add'l keyboard and probably a monitor to use the 755CX effectively. Thanks; I'll summarize directly-emailed replies to the list in a few days. -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 11:31:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11009; Tue, 25 Jul 95 11:31:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04474; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:22:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:22:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04442; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:22:11 -0400 From: Received: from ccMail by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 0150b250; Tue, 25 Jul 95 10:17:57 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:14:51 -0500 Message-Id: <0150b250@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com> Subject: Re: Sound under Win-OS/2 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, jokim@mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part This is taken from the Warp Information file (Multimedia): To add Windows** support for the Crystal Semiconductor** audio devices on the ThinkPad* 750 or 755, you need to: 1. Edit the SYSTEM.INI file, which is located in the directory you load Windows from, usually the \WINDOWS directory. 2. Copy the Crystal Semiconductor CS4231 drivers from the \OS2 directory to the appropriate Windows directories. First, edit the SYSTEM.INI file: 1. Add the following lines under the heading [drivers]. Wave=CS31BA11.DRV Aux=CS31BA11.DRV Mixer=CS31BA11.DRV 2. Add the following line under the heading [386enh]. Device=vsndsys.386 3. Add the contents of the TP750INI.ADD file to the end of the SYSTEM.INI file. You can use your editor to perform this operation, or you can use the COPY command. To use the COPY command, enter the following at the command prompt: COPY d:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI+o:\OS2\DRIVERS\CS4231\TP750INI.ADD where o: is the drive that OS/2 is installed on and d: is the drive that Windows is installed on. Second, copy the Crystal Semiconductor CS4231 drivers from the \OS2 directory to the Windows directories: 1. Copy the file CS31BA11.INI from \OS2\DRIVERS\CS4231 to your \WINDOWS directory. 2. Copy the file CS31BA11.DRV from \OS2\DRIVERS\CS4231 to your \WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory. 3. Copy the file VSNDSYS.386 from \OS2\DRIVERS\CS4231 to your \WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory. ...Mike Eddy... Baxter Healthcare Corporation ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Sound under Win-OS/2 Author: jokim@mit.edu at Internet Date: 7/25/95 2:51 AM Was there some sort of special procedure to get multimedia sound working under Win-OS/2 on a TP750 (the one with the Crystal Semi sound chipset)? I could've sworn I'd gotten it working before, but I've reinstalled Win-OS/2 and MMOS/2 several times without any luck. The Win-OS/2 system sounds are greyed out, and every time I try to start a multimedia app, it complains that there are no drivers installed. I go to install drivers in the control panel and there are no crystal semi drivers. This is a late gamma of Warp with Win-OS/2, the one that came with DevCon. If someone else knows what's up, great. Or if you have the release version of Warp with Win-OS/2 and don't have any problems, tell me and I'll see if I can get an updated version. ____________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@uni.uiuc.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 14:02:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21483; Tue, 25 Jul 95 14:02:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16947; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 13:50:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 13:50:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16930; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 13:50:35 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA05424; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:50:31 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id KAA19835; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:50:26 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199507251750.KAA19835@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Toshiba HD upgrade To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <199507250140.JAA27272@baijuyi> from "Kevin Cheong" at Jul 25, 95 09:40:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > ` What I'm curious about Don, is if one can get away without using > ` *any* hard drive enclosure at all? > ` > ` I'd like to stick OS/2 or somesuch on my existing 340 MB hard > ` drive and then be able to swap hard drives--but presumably I'll need > ` to plastic casings/caddies for that. Don't suppose anyone has one > ` handy? ;) > > Didn't RW say they'd provide a caddy? No, they say you have to take your existing disk out of the caddy and then suggest you by a new HD enclosure for them to use your old one as an external drive. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 15:07:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26212; Tue, 25 Jul 95 15:07:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21500; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 14:49:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 14:49:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from happy.qualcomm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21483; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 14:48:56 -0400 Received: from gjacobs (gjacobs.qualcomm.com [129.46.122.39]) by happy.qualcomm.com (8.6.12/QC-BSD-2.5) with SMTP id LAA01416 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:48:09 -0700 Message-Id: <199507251848.LAA01416@happy.qualcomm.com> X-Sender: gjacobs@wizard X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 11:48:23 -0700 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) From: "Gary E. Jacobs" Subject: TP755 Pentium Upgrade Kit I received the pentium upgrade kit, but it says it's for 755CD and I have a 755CE. Is the kit the same or do I need to return it? Gary Jacobs gjacobs@qualcomm.com (619)658-4069 voice (619)658-2120 fax From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 15:50:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28329; Tue, 25 Jul 95 15:50:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26073; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 15:38:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 15:38:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sh1.ro.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26061; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 15:37:59 -0400 Received: from ts1p6.ro.com (ts1p6.ro.com [204.181.74.26]) by sh1.ro.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA11353; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 14:42:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 14:42:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199507251942.OAA11353@sh1.ro.com> X-Sender: dramsey@ro.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: dramsey@ro.com (Don Ramsey) Subject: Re: Re[2]: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: You will find 32-bit file access in Windows 3.1 by doing this: Click on main Click on control panel Click on 386 Enhanced Click on Virtual Memory Click on Change at the bottom of the window will be a check box for 32-bit access Be careful that windows doesn't change your size to something really large. Also, some computers will not work with 32-bit access if sleep or hibernation occurs at exactly the wrong time. This is not true with TPs. Don. > >Hmm... I don't seem to have a 32-Bit File Access toggle in my control panel. >Is there something special you have to do to get this to appear? >Or perhaps you have a modified control panel program? > >I've set the smartdrv parameters... but by themselves, the DOS error 21 still >persists. I'm still wondering if an "out of the box" windows 3.1 is the same >as what was origonally installed on my thinkpad. > >Thanks for the help. > >-Lee >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Description: cc:Mail note part > >Received: from [128.169.94.1] by doblegate.doble.com with SMTP > (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id 01448370; Mon, 24 Jul 95 21:26:16 -0400 >Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) > id VAA02922; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:12:19 -0400 >X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:12:17 EDT >Errors-to: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU >Received: from Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) > id VAA02912; Mon, 24 Jul 1995 21:12:13 -0400 >Received: from champion.tcs.co.jp by champion.tcs.co.jp (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP i >d KAA11384; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:13:41 +0900 >Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 10:13:41 +0900 >From: Lee Hounshell >Message-Id: <199507250113.KAA11384@Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp> >To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, lee@champion.tcs.co.jp, > tp750@CS.UTK.EDU >Subject: Re: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 20:58:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26523; Tue, 25 Jul 95 20:58:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01617; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 20:44:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 20:44:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01607; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 20:44:06 -0400 Received: from MKE-PPP-01.inc.net by inc.net (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA07961; Tue, 25 Jul 95 19:46:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 95 19:46:09 -0500 Message-Id: <9507260046.AA07961@inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: josephw@beta.inc.net (Joseph C. Wilson) Subject: Request for 755 CX Comments Our company is about to purchase several 755CX's (SVGA/540 HD/8 Mb RAM) for use by salesmen in the field. Anyone out there have comments/warnings/suggestions for us? We will be running W3.11 as our sales reporting software is written for it (not brave enough to wait for a preloaded W95, let others be the final beta testers). I am, however, looking forward to using Warp for my own applications. Thanks for your help. Joe Wilson Milwaukee, WI From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 21:24:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28150; Tue, 25 Jul 95 21:24:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04099; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 21:15:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 21:15:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Phoenix.ERC.MsState.Edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04082; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 21:15:54 -0400 Received: (dbridges@localhost); by Phoenix.ERC.MsState.Edu (8.6.8.1/7.0m-FWP-MsState); id UAA29229; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 20:16:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 20:16:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Douglas Bridges X-Sender: dbridges@phoenix To: "Gary E. Jacobs" Cc: TP Subject: Re: TP755 Pentium Upgrade Kit In-Reply-To: <199507251848.LAA01416@happy.qualcomm.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The Pentium upgrades for the 755CE and CD are different. __________________________________________________________________________ |Douglas Bridges | How to cook hawgs in Mississippi | |dbridges@ERC.msstate.edu | http://www.erc.msstate.edu/hawgs/hawgs.html | |__________________________|_____________________________________________| |"If you cooperate, we will reduce the charges from hit-and-run murder | | to littering." | |________________________________________________________________________| On Tue, 25 Jul 1995, Gary E. Jacobs wrote: > I received the pentium upgrade kit, but it says it's for 755CD and I have a > 755CE. Is the kit the same or do I need to return it? > > Gary Jacobs > gjacobs@qualcomm.com > (619)658-4069 voice > (619)658-2120 fax > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jul 25 21:30:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28195; Tue, 25 Jul 95 21:30:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04440; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 21:21:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 21:21:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04424; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 21:21:09 -0400 Received: from champion.tcs.co.jp by champion.tcs.co.jp (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA00546; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 10:21:10 +0900 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 10:21:10 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199507260121.KAA00546@Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp> To: dramsey@ro.com, ecottrell@doble.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU >You will find 32-bit file access in Windows 3.1 by doing this: > Click on main > Click on control panel > Click on 386 Enhanced > Click on Virtual Memory > Click on Change > at the bottom of the window will be a check box for 32-bit access Sorry, but that doesn't do it for me. I'm currently in the process of downloading the Win 3.11 update files from ftp.microsoft.com as suggested by Eric (ecottrell@doble.com) and others. I'll let everyone know if it works! Thanks for the help! -Lee From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 00:41:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11148; Wed, 26 Jul 95 00:41:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18193; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 00:30:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 00:30:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18171; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 00:30:42 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 00:22:39 -0400 (EDT) From: retsla X-Sender: alster@alster.port.net Cc: TP Subject: Re: TP755 Pentium Upgrade Kit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wait, I thought it wasn't user-installable....? On Tue, 25 Jul 1995, Douglas Bridges wrote: > The Pentium upgrades for the 755CE and CD are different. > > On Tue, 25 Jul 1995, Gary E. Jacobs wrote: > > > I received the pentium upgrade kit, but it says it's for 755CD and I have a > > 755CE. Is the kit the same or do I need to return it? http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 01:41:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14606; Wed, 26 Jul 95 01:41:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21231; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 01:30:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 01:30:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from armon.rain.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21191; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 01:30:09 -0400 Received: by armon.rain.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0saz2d-000DzIC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 22:29 PDT Message-Id: From: mehdi@armon.rain.com (Mehdi Attaran) Subject: Re: TP755 Pentium Upgrade Kit To: alster@interport.net (retsla) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 22:29:59 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: from "retsla" at Jul 26, 95 00:22:39 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > Wait, I thought it wasn't user-installable....? The upgrade is sold in two different versions: 1. You buy it, and send your TP to IBM. They will install the upgrade and will return the upgraded machine back to you. 2. You buy the upgrade, and it is shipped to you. Once you receive it, you'll call the EasyServe (IBM Service) and a technician will come and install it in your TP. I chose method 2... The cost was about $100 more. (It took the tech only about 2 hours. Also, as part of the upgrade package shipped from IBM, I got a great document on how to disassemble the darn thing!) -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mehdi Attaran mehdi@armon.rain.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!armon!mehdi | | Data: (503) 642-3270 Voice: (503) 649-0719 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 01:47:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14634; Wed, 26 Jul 95 01:47:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21622; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 01:39:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 01:39:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sentinel.synapse.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21612; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 01:39:03 -0400 Received: from violin-02.synapse.net (violin-02.synapse.net [199.84.52.236]) by sentinel.synapse.net (8.7.Beta.10/8.7.Beta.10) with SMTP id BAA23639 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 01:38:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 01:38:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199507260538.BAA23639@sentinel.synapse.net> X-Sender: phong@pop.synapse.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: phong@phsmc.synapse.net (Patrick Hong) Subject: Re: Request for 755 CX Comments >Our company is about to purchase several 755CX's (SVGA/540 HD/8 Mb RAM) for >use by salesmen in the field. Anyone out there have >comments/warnings/suggestions for us? We will be running W3.11 as our sales >reporting software is written for it (not brave enough to wait for a >preloaded W95, let others be the final beta testers). I am, however, >looking forward to using Warp for my own applications. > I just received my 755CX about three weeks ago and I have nothing but praise for it. This is my second Thinkpad (first one was a 720C) and thus far, I'm glad that I didn't get the 755CD model. While the CD would have been nice, the benefit of the CD didn't justify the extra baggage it would have imposed. While there are faster notebooks around, 800x600 screen is marvelous and the feature set is something others I believe are still trying to catch up with. Specifically, the MWave DSP chip, the Trackpoint III (others like the Toshiba don't have as nice a feel), the quality of construction and last but not least, the great keyboard. While these are just my opinions, I stand by them as I've been shopping around not only for myself but my clients as well. They finally settled on ten 755CE's and they're very happy with them. I'm sure they would have purchased the 755CX's but they weren't introduced as of yet. Apparently IBM will be introducing a new Thinkpad soon, a 120MHz pentium with an 11.3" SVGA dispay. ... patrick ______________________________________________________________________ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@phsmc.synapse.net (613) 769-1544 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 02:08:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15830; Wed, 26 Jul 95 02:08:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22731; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 02:00:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 02:00:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA22649; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 02:00:01 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 01:51:11 -0400 (EDT) From: retsla X-Sender: alster@alster.port.net Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Request for 755 CX Comments In-Reply-To: <199507260538.BAA23639@sentinel.synapse.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, Patrick Hong wrote: > >Our company is about to purchase several 755CX's (SVGA/540 HD/8 Mb RAM) for > >use by salesmen in the field. Anyone out there have > >comments/warnings/suggestions for us? We will be running W3.11 as our sales > >reporting software is written for it (not brave enough to wait for a > >preloaded W95, let others be the final beta testers). I am, however, > >looking forward to using Warp for my own applications. > > I just received my 755CX about three weeks ago and I have nothing but praise > for it. This is my second Thinkpad (first one was a 720C) and thus far, I'm > glad that I didn't get the 755CD model. While the CD would have been nice, > the benefit of the CD didn't justify the extra baggage it would have > imposed. While there are faster notebooks around, 800x600 screen is > marvelous and the feature set is something others I believe are still trying > to catch up with. Specifically, the MWave DSP chip, the Trackpoint III > (others like the Toshiba don't have as nice a feel), the quality of > construction and last but not least, the great keyboard. > > While these are just my opinions, I stand by them as I've been shopping > around not only for myself but my clients as well. They finally settled on > ten 755CE's and they're very happy with them. I'm sure they would have > purchased the 755CX's but they weren't introduced as of yet. > > Apparently IBM will be introducing a new Thinkpad soon, a 120MHz pentium > with an 11.3" SVGA dispay. ^^^^ 12.1!! http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 03:58:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21624; Wed, 26 Jul 95 03:58:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00941; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 03:49:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 03:49:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00931; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 03:49:27 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA07882 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Wed, 26 Jul 1995 03:49:23 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA34500; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 03:48:55 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 03:48:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: Mehdi Attaran Cc: retsla , TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755 Pentium Upgrade Kit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 25 Jul 1995, Mehdi Attaran wrote: > > Wait, I thought it wasn't user-installable....? > That's what IBM tells people but if it is the similar to previous processor upgrades then installing it is really a cinch. I got the CPU upgrade for my old model 700 when the IBM PC Outlet was dumping them for $99 (instead of the original $595). It came with a nifty little chip removal tool and instructions on how to replace everything. The thing about the 486SLC chip that the 700 & 720 used was that it was so darn small. The 387SL math coprocessor took up about twice the area of the 486SLC chip. The actual hardware change took about 15 minutes and an additional 10 minutes spent reinstalling the reference and diagnostic diskettes. Installation might be different on the 755CE, but I was under the impression that they had made things much easier to access on the newer models than on the old 700/720 (eg. pop up keyboard). Josh Hosseinoff hosseino@yu1.yu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 06:20:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28134; Wed, 26 Jul 95 06:20:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14740; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 06:13:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 06:13:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA14730; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 06:12:59 -0400 From: Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA051923547; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 06:12:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 06:12:28 -0400 Message-Id: <950726061227_41013951@aol.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Judge Ito's Thinkpad Just wondering if anyone knows what kind of IBM Thinkpad Ito has on his desktop. As far as I can tell, it looks like a 755 series of some sort. Also, does Ito run Win95, OS/2, Win3.11, or just plain DOS. PC Laptop magazine recently did a cover story on the O.J. courtroom and the various laptops that the lawyers use, but it did not mention the specifics of Ito's TP. Dennis From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 07:26:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00296; Wed, 26 Jul 95 07:26:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18044; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 07:19:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 07:19:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18034; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 07:19:44 -0400 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.51:30/EUnetD-2.5.1.k) via EUnet id NAA18830; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 13:21:23 +0200 Received: from osix.Materna.DE by materna.materna.de with 8 Bit SMTP (PP); Wed, 26 Jul 1995 13:18:26 +0200 Message-Id: <9507261119.AA13536@osix.Materna.DE> X-Sender: mk@osix X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 13:19:12 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Michael.Kuschke@Materna.DE (Michael Kuschke) Subject: Introduction: M. Kuschke Hello, since about two week's I use a ThinkPad 750C as PC on my desk. The machine is equipped with 12 MB memory and a 170 MB HD. It's connected to the net via a 3Com PCMCIA ethernetcard. I hope that real soon now my port-replicator arrives, so that I can connect my monitor, keyboard and mouse easy. As OS I use the current beta of Windows 95, which run's well on the machine. I use the machine for my daily duties as consultant in networking and PC <-> Unix integration. So far, -M. Kuschke Michael Kuschke e-mail : Michael.Kuschke@Materna.DE Dr. Materna GmbH Voice : +49 231 5599 328 Vosskuhle 37, 44141 Dortmund, Germany FAX : +49 231 5599 100 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 08:57:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06914; Wed, 26 Jul 95 08:57:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24679; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 08:48:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 08:48:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sh1.ro.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24669; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 08:48:27 -0400 Received: from ts1p2.ro.com (ts1p2.ro.com [204.181.74.22]) by sh1.ro.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA04522; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 07:53:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 07:53:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199507261253.HAA04522@sh1.ro.com> X-Sender: dramsey@ro.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Douglas Bridges From: dramsey@ro.com (Don Ramsey) Subject: Re: Re[2]: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Doug, in Program Manager when I click on Help, then on About Program Manager, my version of Windows says this: Microsoft Windows Program Manager Version 3.1 Copyright 1985-1992 Microsoft Corp. When I click on the Control Panel to set the virtual memory stuff, it has the 32-bit disk access check box at the bottom. How do I explain this other than to say that 3.1 has 32-bit access. Also, when I look at the setup status (now that I have the 32-bit box checked), it says this: Current Settings Drive: D: Size: 8305 KB Type: Permanent (using 32-bit access) I'm running stacker on my 750C 340 meg drive and have about 10meg of unstacked drive being used as drive D: (after boot up). Where am I wrong about all this? Don > This is not true. You will find 32-bit disk access if you do what >you say. 32-bit file access does not come on Windows 3.1. It only >comes with Windows for Workgroups ver. 3.11 > >__________________________________________________________________________ >|Douglas Bridges | How to cook hawgs in Mississippi | >|dbridges@ERC.msstate.edu | http://www.erc.msstate.edu/hawgs/hawgs.html | >|__________________________|_____________________________________________| >|"If you cooperate, we will reduce the charges from hit-and-run murder | >| to littering." | >|________________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 11:20:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15271; Wed, 26 Jul 95 11:20:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05578; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:07:17 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:07:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from UTKVM1.UTK.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05568; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:07:15 -0400 Message-Id: <199507261507.LAA05568@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from UTKVM1.BITNET by UTKVM1.UTK.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7478; Wed, 26 Jul 95 11:07:11 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU by UTKVM1.BITNET (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 9665; Wed, 26 Jul 95 11:07:10 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (NJE origin KRUCK@WVNVM) by WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9976; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:07:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:07:01 -0400 (EDT) From: To: Subject: TP750 (was Pentium upgrade) Reading through the messages, people are talking about the pentium upgrade for the 755, and then someone mentioned an upgrade for the 720. (sorry, I can't flip across to the actual messages to include names). Is it still the case that there is _no_ upgrade options (except RAM and HD) for the 750 series? Thanks, Kruck 750 mono 20 megs RAM 340 HD (but thinking of upgrading) MegaHertz 14.4 Gold X-jack Dos & Windoze From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 11:36:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16186; Wed, 26 Jul 95 11:36:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07457; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:28:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:28:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jupiter.cast.msstate.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA07441; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:28:44 -0400 Received: from berea.cast.msstate.edu by jupiter.cast.msstate.edu (4.1/6.0s-FWP); id AA01382; Wed, 26 Jul 95 10:27:50 CDT Received: by berea.cast.msstate.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id KAA03347; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 10:27:48 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 10:27:48 +36000 From: Valentine Anantharaj To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: diskette factory - disk size? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Since IBM did not ship the system diskettes, I am trying to use Diskette Factory to make a copy of the software and utilities. When I try to use the Diskette Factory, it prompts me for 2MB disks; but I believe I only have 1.44MB diskette drive, as shipped by default by IBM. What is the best way to determine the capacity of the diskette drive? If it is not the 2MB drive, would I still be able to make copies using a few more disks? Regards, VGA Valentine G. Anantharaj --------------- val@cast.msstate.edu --- MSU - Center for Air-Sea Technology vga1@ra.msstate.edu | Bldg. 1103, Room 233 Tel.: (601)688-1157 | Stennis Space Center Fax: (601)688-7100 | MS 39529-5005 -------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 11:55:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17365; Wed, 26 Jul 95 11:55:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08833; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:43:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:43:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08823; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 11:43:43 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA6697; Wed, 26 Jul 95 11:44:54 -0400 Message-Id: <9507261544.AA6697@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id EF7A8CE7BF704EAE852562050053C3ED; Wed, 26 Jul 95 11:44:52 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 26 Jul 95 11:17:46 Subject: Re: Re[2]: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....When I click on the Control Panel to set the virtual memory stuff, it has the 32-bit disk access check box at the bottom. How do I explain this other than to say that 3.1 has 32-bit access. Also, when I look at the setup status (now that I have the 32-bit box checked), it says this:....." ".....> This is not true. You will find 32-bit disk access if you do what >you say. 32-bit file access does not come on Windows 3.1. It only >comes with Windows for Workgroups ver. 3.11....." ~~~~~~~~~~ We aren't talking about 32-bit disk access. yes, that does come with 3.1. We're talking about 32-bit file access, the check box (if you have it) to the right of 32-bit disk access in the same place in windoze control panel. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 12:26:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19592; Wed, 26 Jul 95 12:26:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11742; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 12:16:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 12:16:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11730; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 12:16:15 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA6726; Wed, 26 Jul 95 12:17:25 -0400 Message-Id: <9507261617.AA6726@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id ABDEB10607679760852562050058A5C8; Wed, 26 Jul 95 12:17:22 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 26 Jul 95 12:09:39 Subject: Re: diskette factory - disk size? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....Since IBM did not ship the system diskettes, I am trying to use Diskette Factory to make a copy of the software and utilities. When I try to use the Diskette Factory, it prompts me for 2MB disks; but I believe I only have 1.44MB diskette drive, as shipped by default by IBM. What is the best way to determine the capacity of the diskette drive? If it is not the 2MB drive, would I still be able to make copies using a few more disks?....." ~~~~~~~~~~ 1.44MB diskettes have a 2MB capacity before formatting. It's misleading. use 1.44s. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 13:38:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24189; Wed, 26 Jul 95 13:38:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17175; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 13:29:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 13:29:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jupiter.cast.msstate.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17159; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 13:29:34 -0400 Received: from berea.cast.msstate.edu by jupiter.cast.msstate.edu (4.1/6.0s-FWP); id AA02160; Wed, 26 Jul 95 12:28:46 CDT Received: by berea.cast.msstate.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id MAA03414; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 12:28:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 12:28:43 +36000 From: Valentine Anantharaj To: John Kim Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: diskette factory - disk size? - Thanks In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks for all who replied. I was able to make copies using 1.44mb formatted diskettes. Regards, VGA Valentine G. Anantharaj --------------- val@cast.msstate.edu --- MSU - Center for Air-Sea Technology vga1@ra.msstate.edu | Bldg. 1103, Room 233 Tel.: (601)688-1157 | Stennis Space Center Fax: (601)688-7100 | MS 39529-5005 -------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, John Kim wrote: > > > On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, Valentine Anantharaj wrote: > > > Since IBM did not ship the system diskettes, I am trying to use Diskette > > Factory to make a copy of the software and utilities. When I try to use > > the Diskette Factory, it prompts me for 2MB disks; but I believe I only > > have 1.44MB diskette drive, as shipped by default by IBM. > > Have you tried just going ahead with the program? 1.44MB disks are > 2MB unformatted. (2.88MB disks are 4MB unformatted) > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 14:43:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27221; Wed, 26 Jul 95 14:43:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16824; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 13:24:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 13:24:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16813; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 13:24:07 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA15014; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 10:24:05 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id KAA09963; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 10:24:03 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199507261724.KAA09963@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: diskette factory - disk size? To: val@cast.msstate.edu (Valentine Anantharaj) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 10:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Valentine Anantharaj" at Jul 26, 95 10:27:48 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Since IBM did not ship the system diskettes, I am trying to use Diskette > Factory to make a copy of the software and utilities. When I try to use > the Diskette Factory, it prompts me for 2MB disks; but I believe I only > have 1.44MB diskette drive, as shipped by default by IBM. The disks you speak of are actually a 2 MB capacity--its just that when you format them, the formatting data takes some space and all you have left is 1.44 MB of disk space. By the same token, 2.88 MB floppy disks are actually 4 MB in raw capacity. So just use the standard "1.44 MB" floppy disks you are familiar with and you'll be fine. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 19:31:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19699; Wed, 26 Jul 95 19:31:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA15049; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 19:16:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 19:16:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from asylum.sf.ca.us by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA15038; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 19:16:44 -0400 Received: (from lang@localhost) by asylum.sf.ca.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA07557; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 19:16:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 19:16:36 -0400 From: Lang Zerner Message-Id: <199507262316.TAA07557@asylum.sf.ca.us> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: New ThinkPad info sources Reply-To: Lang Zerner Folks have been bandying about rumors of new ThinkPad models coming out Real Soon Now with 120MHz Pentiums and 11.3 or 12.1 inch SVGA screens. What is your source for this information (IBM hasn't announced any Pentium ThinkPads since June 20)? I'd like to find out when these new models are realistically expected to start shipping and what their expected prices are. Be seeing you... --Lang Zerner ITC Consulting Group integrated communication consulting services 915 Cole Street #151 networks * publishing * training * design San Francisco, CA 94117 +1 415 861 7688 * http://apocalypse.org/pub/itc/ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jul 26 20:37:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25429; Wed, 26 Jul 95 20:37:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18291; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 20:21:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 20:21:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA18281; Wed, 26 Jul 1995 20:21:22 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 20:13:55 -0400 (EDT) From: retsla X-Sender: alster@alster.port.net Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: New ThinkPad info sources In-Reply-To: <199507262316.TAA07557@asylum.sf.ca.us> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU On Wed, 26 Jul 1995, Lang Zerner wrote: > Folks have been bandying about rumors of new ThinkPad models coming out Real > Soon Now with 120MHz Pentiums and 11.3 or 12.1 inch SVGA screens. What is > your source for this information (IBM hasn't announced any Pentium ThinkPads > since June 20)? I'd like to find out when these new models are realistically > expected to start shipping and what their expected prices are. PC Week? http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 00:37:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17579; Thu, 27 Jul 95 00:37:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05881; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 00:24:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 00:24:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA05871; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 00:24:06 -0400 Received: from champion.tcs.co.jp by champion.tcs.co.jp (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA01291; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 13:24:57 +0900 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 13:24:57 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199507270424.NAA01291@Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp> To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Re[2]: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs >We aren't talking about 32-bit disk access. yes, that does come with 3.1. >We're talking about 32-bit file access, the check box (if you have it) to the >right of 32-bit disk access in the same place in windoze control panel. Well, if it comes with 3.1 (the help button seems to know about it), I sure can't get it to work. I tried uploading the 3.11 mods from ftp.microsoft.com yesterday. That did not make any difference. There is no 31-bit anything checkbox under my Windoze control-panel-E386. So, if I have to use 32-bit access to get rid of this DOS error 21, then what do I need to do? BTW, 32-bit ghostscript and ghostview also produce the same DOS error 21. Do I have to buy WFWG? or is it better to just forget the whole thing and try Win95? -Lee From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 02:30:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25363; Thu, 27 Jul 95 02:30:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11624; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 02:13:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 02:13:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rigel.lmt.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11613; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 02:13:27 -0400 Received: from leonardo.lmt.com by rigel.lmt.com with SMTP id AA00582 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 27 Jul 1995 01:20:31 -0500 Received: from LEONARDO/SMTPQUEUE by leonardo.lmt.com (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 27 Jul 95 1:20:23 GMT-6 Received: from SMTPQUEUE by LEONARDO (Mercury 1.13); Tue, 25 Jul 95 14:50:00 GMT-6 From: "Chris Schumann" Organization: LaserMaster Technologies R&D Divn. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 14:49:51 CST6CDT Subject: CD ROM drives Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-Id: <1A4A302566@leonardo.lmt.com> Just a minor point, but full-sized CD ROM discs are not 5.25" across. They are, by design, 12cm across, or about 4.72". The smaller discs are 8cm, or about 3.15". From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 09:35:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20321; Thu, 27 Jul 95 09:35:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16896; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 09:27:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 09:27:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.cs.utexas.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16886; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 09:27:31 -0400 Received: from darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (mschaef@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.143.204]) by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA06752; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 08:27:28 -0500 Received: by darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/Client-v1.4) id IAA65878; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 08:27:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 08:27:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Schaeffer To: Chris Schumann Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: CD ROM drives In-Reply-To: <1A4A302566@leonardo.lmt.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 25 Jul 1995, Chris Schumann wrote: >The smaller discs > are 8cm, or about 3.15". Are these ever used? And does the 755cd support them? I thought this size was just for CD-Audio singles. -Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 09:36:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20326; Thu, 27 Jul 95 09:36:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16851; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 09:27:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 09:27:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.cs.utexas.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16841; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 09:27:02 -0400 Received: from darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (mschaef@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.143.204]) by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA06653; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 08:25:45 -0500 Received: by darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/Client-v1.4) id IAA58443; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 08:25:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 08:25:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Schaeffer To: Lee Hounshell Cc: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Re[2]: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs In-Reply-To: <199507270424.NAA01291@Pion.champion.tcs.co.jp> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 27 Jul 1995, Lee Hounshell wrote: > Well, if it comes with 3.1 (the help button seems to know about it), I sure > can't get it to work. I tried uploading the 3.11 mods from ftp.microsoft.com > yesterday. That did not make any difference. There is no 31-bit anything > checkbox under my Windoze control-panel-E386. The last time I checked, the mods on the ftp site, upgraded Windows 3.1 to Windows 3.11. What it doesn't do is add the functionality added in WfWG 3.11 like 32-bit file access. > Do I have to buy WFWG? or is it better to just forget the whole thing > and try Win95? Wait for Win95. It's at least as good as WfWG 3.11 at running Win16 apps, plus it has some nice features. -Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 10:21:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24623; Thu, 27 Jul 95 10:21:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21116; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 10:12:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 10:12:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21085; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 10:12:49 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA7486; Thu, 27 Jul 95 10:13:55 -0400 Message-Id: <9507271413.AA7486@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 7F1210237885AC9C85256206004C8766; Thu, 27 Jul 95 10:13:52 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 27 Jul 95 10:00:21 Subject: Re: Re[2]: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....Well, if it comes with 3.1 (the help button seems to know about it), I sure can't get it to work. I tried uploading the 3.11 mods from ftp.microsoft.com yesterday. That did not make any difference. There is no 31-bit anything checkbox under my Windoze control-panel-E386. So, if I have to use 32-bit access to get rid of this DOS error 21, then what do I need to do? BTW, 32-bit ghostscript and ghostview also produce the same DOS error 21. Do I have to buy WFWG? or is it better to just forget the whole thing and try Win95?....." ~~~~~~~~~~ In the 386 Enh, did you click on the "Virtual Memory," then "Change" buttons? This is where it appears-- at the bottom of the window. If it doesn't appear, then it must be a WFWG thing. The upgrade is only $40. I haven't looked at W95 yet, so I can't advise you there. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 12:01:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00796; Thu, 27 Jul 95 12:01:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00118; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 11:46:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 11:46:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from deneb.dfn.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29975; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 11:46:30 -0400 Received: from unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (rzgw.rz.fh-hannover.de) by deneb.dfn.de (4.1/SMI-4.2) id AA09526; Thu, 27 Jul 95 17:44:12 +0200 Received: from bidnix.bid.fh-hannover.de by unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA23937; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 17:45:26 +0100 Received: by bidnix.bid.fh-hannover.de (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0sbV5k-000DPcC; Thu, 27 Jul 95 17:43 MET DST Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 17:43:20 +0200 (MET DST) From: Hanno Wagner To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: PCMCIA Credit Card Adapter under OS/2? In-Reply-To: <199507241400.AA10645@wayne.ircam.fr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, my father is using an Thinkpad 755CD with 16MB RAM, 540 MB HDD, TFT Display, Win-OS/2 and IBM DOS. Now he tries to use his Credit Card Adapter from IBM for his Novell Netware (Server Version is 4.01 at this time). With DOS and Windows without OS/2, there is no problem with using the Card in the PCMCIA slot. It works without problems. But with OS/2, the system doesn't seems to detect the card right: it tells us, no int used, no mem used, no port used, node adress would be FFFFFFFFF, everything written in yellow letters, very unusual for a normal upcoming in OS/2. Than the system tells us that in the net.cfg wouldn't be a node address, but I told him the address in the net.cfg (the line is: node address 02000000000 ) after this, there are many errors and the system stops. Is there anyone familiar with this problem, can anyone send me his CONFIG.SYS and the NET.CFG? We don't have good books and the helpline of IBM can't help us. Thanks in advance, Hanno -- Hanno Wagner, Student der Fachhochschule Hannover, Fachbereich IK email: wagner@www.bid.fh-hannover.de URL: http://www.bid.fh-hannover.de:80/~wagner/ IRC: Rince (usually on #germany or #muenster or #braunschweig) "This is also a story about sex and drugs and Music With Rocks In. Well... ...one out of three ain't bad." From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 12:50:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09831; Thu, 27 Jul 95 12:50:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04968; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 12:41:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 12:41:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from biobase.dk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04958; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 12:41:07 -0400 Received: by biobase.dk; id AA01477; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 18:41:03 +0200 From: Paulo Magalhaes Message-Id: <9507271641.AA01477@biobase.dk> Subject: Network questions To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 18:41:02 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Greetings! I few minutes of your attention... I am trying to learn some intricate details of networking. I've just moved, and this is the setup I found at my new lab: Ethernet backbone ================= | | ------------- ------------- | |Farallon | |Farallon | \____|EtherWave |_____|EtherWave |______ HP |AAUI | |AAUI | LaserJet |Transceiver| |Transceiver| ------------- ------------- | | | | MacQuadra PowerMac | \__ SCSI ___ SCSI device A device B I hope the diagram is clear enough - feel free to ask questions if not. Ok, I have a simple TP750Cs with 8Mb RAM, 340Mb HD, running OS2 2.1 (soon, very soon, to be upgraded to Warp - where's the cheapest place to get it, btw? is there a discount for previous OS2 owners?) and I need to access data on the Macs. Even though I'm an ignoramus about these computer things, I guess that I need: a) a PCMCIA ethernet card [I believe 3Com's 3C589B has received some support in this list, but any additional information is most welcome]; b) another Farallon transceiver [just because that's what the people here use...]; c) a bit of patience setting everything up... So, why am I bothering everyone with this? Well, before I order the stuff, am I doing the right thing? Is there a cheaper/more convenient way of getting hooked to the network? Any problems with the expected Warp upgrade?... When I go home (taking my precious TP with me, of course!), will there be a problem for the Macs because of the "hanging", "empty" transceiver (the one I'm about to order, that is)? When I connect the TP to the transceiver, do I need to switch my computer off, or can I do it from a sleeping/hybernating condition? The equivalent question for disconnecting... I really appreciate your comments/suggestions. Additionally, I have another problem - small, but unsolvable, I think. It would be really, really good if I could access the SCSI devices from my TP... But that's not possible, right? The "experts" here say that it is simply impossible to access another computer's SCSI port, but I still thought of asking for your opinion. No way to reach a SCSI device from different machines?... Many thanks for your comments, and my apologies for a rather long message. Paulo From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 13:21:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14756; Thu, 27 Jul 95 13:21:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07720; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 13:10:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 13:10:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jupiter.cast.msstate.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07693; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 13:10:00 -0400 Received: from berea.cast.msstate.edu by jupiter.cast.msstate.edu (4.1/6.0s-FWP); id AA09426; Thu, 27 Jul 95 12:09:03 CDT Received: by berea.cast.msstate.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id MAA04033; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 12:09:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 12:08:59 +36000 From: Valentine Anantharaj To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Drivers for 3Com Etherlink III - 3C589B? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a 3Com PCMCIA ethernet card for my TP755CE. I would like to be able to hook this to our local netwrok of mostly SGI and Sun workstations so that I can do ftp/telnet/SLIP/etc. I understand that the public domain software Trumpet would let me do this. I have the trumpet software, but I don't know where to find the drivers for this and the PC card to work together. Can someone give me directions on where I can find the driver and configure the PC card to use trumpet? We have no resident experts on PC networking at our site. I do plan on running Linux on the TP once I figure out how to do it, and I am in the process of investigating what I need to do. Also, if I upgrade MS Windows 3.11 to WWG 3.11, would I be able to mount the disks on our unix workstations and fileserver? Or would I need Sun PC-NFS or similar software? Regards, VGA Valentine G. Anantharaj --------------- val@cast.msstate.edu --- MSU - Center for Air-Sea Technology vga1@ra.msstate.edu | Bldg. 1103, Room 233 Tel.: (601)688-1157 | Stennis Space Center Fax: (601)688-7100 | MS 39529-5005 -------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 13:36:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16259; Thu, 27 Jul 95 13:36:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09715; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 13:28:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 13:28:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09701; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 13:28:32 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA08327; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 10:28:27 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id KAA28885; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 10:28:25 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199507271728.KAA28885@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Network questions To: pamaga@biobase.dk (Paulo Magalhaes) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 10:28:24 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9507271641.AA01477@biobase.dk> from "Paulo Magalhaes" at Jul 27, 95 06:41:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I few minutes of your attention... I am trying to learn some intricate > details of networking. > Additionally, I have another problem - small, but unsolvable, I think. > It would be really, really good if I could access the SCSI devices > from my TP... But that's not possible, right? The "experts" here say > that it is simply impossible to access another computer's SCSI port, but > I still thought of asking for your opinion. No way to reach a SCSI device > from different machines?... Some of it is going to be difficult, just because of formatting differences (maybe--things like this are weird) between PC and Mac. But one solution I know works on our Novell network with SCSI CD-ROMs at least, is this item called "DiscPort". It hooks into the network and essentially acts like a SCSI Host Adapter in controlling the CD-ROMs for the entire network to access and use. I don't know if it would work with your application, but it may be something you'll want to look into. Its made by a company called "Microtest" that appears to be based in the Netherlands, but has an office in Phoenix. Sales can be reached at (800) 526-9675. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 14:44:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21391; Thu, 27 Jul 95 14:44:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14308; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 14:33:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 14:33:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA14298; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 14:33:31 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA7709; Thu, 27 Jul 95 14:34:43 -0400 Message-Id: <9507271834.AA7709@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id E0C70A61296ED025852562060063F363; Thu, 27 Jul 95 14:34:40 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 27 Jul 95 14:22:06 Subject: Re: Drivers for 3Com Etherlink III - 3C589B? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....I have a 3Com PCMCIA ethernet card for my TP755CE. I would like to be able to hook this to our local netwrok of mostly SGI and Sun workstations so that I can do ftp/telnet/SLIP/etc. I understand that the public domain software Trumpet would let me do this. I have the trumpet software, but I don't know where to find the drivers for this and the PC card to work together. Can someone give me directions on where I can find the driver and configure the PC card to use trumpet? We have no resident experts on PC networking at our site. I do plan on running Linux on the TP once I figure out how to do it, and I am in the process of investigating what I need to do. Also, if I upgrade MS Windows 3.11 to WWG 3.11, would I be able to mount the disks on our unix workstations and fileserver? Or would I need Sun PC-NFS or similar software?....." ~~~~~~~~~~ I'm not sure what all of your needs are, but the tcp/ip stack that comes with the WFWG license (WinTCP) serves all of our thinkpads beautifully for inet access over the LAN. We use the Xircom, not 3Com, cards, but we don't need no steenking Trumpet to get T1 speed ftp/telnet/www etc. not sure what you mean by SLIP over the LAN, unless you mean redirecting a com port to a network modem & SLIPing in from there, in which case you will need something more than WinTCP. But if your inet server is on your LAN, all you need is the ip addresses of the server & the gateway to get there with WinTCP (you'll also avoid spending windoze memory on a third party product). Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 15:47:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26503; Thu, 27 Jul 95 15:47:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19372; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 15:36:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 15:36:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jupiter.cast.msstate.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA19354; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 15:36:04 -0400 Received: from berea.cast.msstate.edu by jupiter.cast.msstate.edu (4.1/6.0s-FWP); id AA10339; Thu, 27 Jul 95 14:35:12 CDT Received: by berea.cast.msstate.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id OAA04250; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 14:35:08 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 14:35:08 +36000 From: Valentine Anantharaj To: Michael Verne/VENTANA Cc: tp750 Subject: Re: Drivers for 3Com Etherlink III - 3C589B? In-Reply-To: <9507271834.AA7709@LGATE.vmedia.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 27 Jul 1995, Michael Verne/VENTANA wrote: > > I'm not sure what all of your needs are, but the tcp/ip stack that comes with > the WFWG license (WinTCP) serves all of our thinkpads beautifully for inet > access over the LAN. We use the Xircom, not 3Com, cards, but we don't need no > steenking Trumpet to get T1 speed ftp/telnet/www etc. not sure what you mean > by SLIP over the LAN, unless you mean redirecting a com port to a network modem > & SLIPing in from there, in which case you will need something more than > WinTCP. But if your inet server is on your LAN, all you need is the ip > addresses of the server & the gateway to get there with WinTCP (you'll also > avoid spending windoze memory on a third party product). > I do not plan to run SLIP over LAN, just ftp and telnet. I will use SLIP with the modem. I understand that Trumpet supports SLIP. The TP has plain vanilla MS Windows 3.11, not WfWG 3.11 and no WinTCP, unless I have to upgrade to WfWG. Regards, VGA (val@cast.msstate.edu) Valentine G. Anantharaj --------------- val@cast.msstate.edu --- MSU - Center for Air-Sea Technology vga1@ra.msstate.edu | Bldg. 1103, Room 233 Tel.: (601)688-1157 | Stennis Space Center Fax: (601)688-7100 | MS 39529-5005 -------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 16:43:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00463; Thu, 27 Jul 95 16:43:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23938; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 16:31:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 16:31:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from imag.imag.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA23925; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 16:31:42 -0400 Received: from safran-28 (safran.imag.fr [129.88.29.1]) by imag.imag.fr (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA18426; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 22:31:35 +0200 Received: (elf@localhost) by safran-28 (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.4) id WAA13793; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 22:31:34 +0200 Message-Id: <199507272031.WAA13793@safran-28> From: Eugene.Fiume@imag.fr (Eugene Fiume) Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 22:31:34 -0600 In-Reply-To: Valentine Anantharaj's message as of Jul 27, 7:29pm X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Valentine Anantharaj , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Drivers for 3Com Etherlink III - 3C589B? } Can someone give me directions on where I can find the driver and } configure the PC card to use trumpet? We have no resident experts on PC } networking at our site. I do plan on running Linux on the TP once I } figure out how to do it, and I am in the process of investigating what I } need to do. My background: I started by learning about packet drivers on DOS and Windows. I got them to talk to my PE-200 (an NE-2000 clone) card under both. I got kermit to talk TCP/IP under DOS and Trumpet and a variety of other things to talk TCP/IP and NFS under Windows 3.11. This required a longer learning curve than I wanted, because I thought for sure that things just *had* to be harder with a UNIX system (despite the fact that I'm a UNIX guy). I was wrong. If you are serious about going to Linux and your card is supported by Linux, then just do it. Of the solutions under Windows, I in fact found that the winsock provided with the Trumpet software seemed to give more reliable and better performance than the software provided by Microsoft. Even so, it is consistently about 1/3 the performance at best of my Linux setup. Now, I must say that if you're happy with 1Mbps or so burst performance, which really ain't bad, then you'll be happy with the Windows solution mentioned by someone else, or with the Trumpet solution I used most often. But I personally have not found anything to match the reliability and performance of the Linux solution, except perhaps for another UNIX implementation, which I haven't tried. } Also, if I upgrade MS Windows 3.11 to WWG 3.11, would I be able to mount } the disks on our unix workstations and fileserver? Or would I need Sun } PC-NFS or similar software? As another poster mentioned, it is possible to avoid PC-NFS. I used the shareware Tropic NFS briefly, to share filesystems with a variety of Suns and SGI machines. Throughput wasn't great, but it was acceptable. There are lots of solutions around that cost more money, but once I started using Linux, I erased the other solutions. I really don't mean this to soundlike an advocacy post. I tried many solutions, and all have their merits. Oh, Linux hint for the day: I've plugged into several different networks using Linux on my TP755CE and have been very happily up and running within minutes every time. At one site, however, a lab manager gave me more credit for knowing what I was doing than I did...turns out I was turning on routed and my TP was sufficiently trusted to become a default router for their network. This, um, caused problems. So, if you are a mobile network user and don't plan to be a name server or router for anyone, you should ensure this is disabled in your startup. By the way, does anyone have any documentation for the gated that is distributed at various Linux sites? Regards, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jul 27 21:43:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28578; Thu, 27 Jul 95 21:43:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16810; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 21:30:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 21:30:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Pion by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA16765; Thu, 27 Jul 1995 21:30:18 -0400 Received: from by (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA14118; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 10:31:45 +0900 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 10:31:45 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199507280131.KAA14118@Pion> To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Re[2]: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs >In the 386 Enh, did you click on the "Virtual Memory," then "Change" buttons? >This is where it appears-- at the bottom of the window. If it doesn't appear, >then it must be a WFWG thing. The upgrade is only $40. I haven't looked at Yeah, I tried that. No 32-bit toggles on the screen, just a blank area where it probably appears. The help button talks about it, but it doesn't say how to get it to appear. Probably I'm going to wait and try Win95. Although to be honest, I'm kinda apprehensive about the move. It's taken me a year to get the messy-DOS/Windoze stuff to (mostly) work ok. I really don't want to spend another year configuring another OS.... -Lee From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 28 00:20:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12715; Fri, 28 Jul 95 00:20:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29049; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:10:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:10:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29029; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:09:58 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id EAA57461 for >; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 04:09:56 GMT Message-Id: <199507280409.EAA57461@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip34-18.il.us.ibm.net(129.37.34.18) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaMmkGKs; Fri Jul 28 04:09:51 1995 X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) From: Stephen Hosmer To: Thinkpad Thinkpad Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 21:11:44 PDT Reply-To: Stephen Hosmer Subject: Is the 750 Upgradeable I noticed the discusson of the upgrade to the 755. But is the 750 upgradable to a Pentium? ____________________________________________ Stephen Hosmer CFO Royale Energy Inc hosmer@ibm.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 28 00:23:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13132; Fri, 28 Jul 95 00:23:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29076; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:10:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:10:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29043; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:10:01 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id EAA90743; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 04:09:56 GMT Message-Id: <199507280409.EAA90743@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip34-18.il.us.ibm.net(129.37.34.18) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaMmkJxI; Fri Jul 28 04:09:54 1995 X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) From: Stephen Hosmer To: Conrad Albrecht-Buehler To: Thinkpad Thinkpad Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 21:11:46 PDT Reply-To: Stephen Hosmer Subject: Re: Serial Number Addressed to: Conrad Albrecht-Buehler Thinkpad Thinkpad ** Reply to note from Conrad Albrecht-Buehler 07/21/95 9:09pm -0500 I know its not the same number but there is a serial number that shows up in the config screen if you hold F1 while poweron. IBM may be able to initiate service based on that number. Did you buy this machine new? Did someone before you rub off the number. There are a few machines going around that are true IBM only as far as the platic case. Beware. ____________________________________________ Stephen Hosmer CFO Royale Energy Inc hosmer@ibm.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 28 00:31:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13484; Fri, 28 Jul 95 00:31:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00348; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:21:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:21:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gs1.cinti.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00335; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:21:50 -0400 Received: from ppp12.cinti.net (ppp12. [204.248.144.62]) by gs1.cinti.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA10873 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:15:09 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 00:15:09 -0400 Message-Id: <199507280415.AAA10873@gs1.cinti.net> X-Sender: merlyn@mail.cinti.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: merlyn@mail.cinti.net (Randy Karshner) Subject: Greetings Greetings Everyone, Since im new to the group i thought id drop a little bit about my system and its OS. I have a Thinkpad 750ce, 12megs of ram, and its running Windows. Im really interested to know if anyone has gotten any newer dos games like Doom2, Heretic etc to play sound... Randy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 28 01:21:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16092; Fri, 28 Jul 95 01:21:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03771; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 01:11:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 01:11:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Pion by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03759; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 01:11:17 -0400 Received: from by (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA15277; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:12:46 +0900 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:12:46 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199507280512.OAA15277@Pion> To: hosmer@ibm.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Is the 750 Upgradeable From what I've heard it is not. Apparently, not even all models of the 755 are upgradeable. I have a 755C, and would like to upgrade. From what I hear, it can not be upgraded either. -Lee From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 28 02:11:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18987; Fri, 28 Jul 95 02:11:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA05874; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 01:52:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 01:52:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gs1.cinti.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA05862; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 01:52:01 -0400 Received: from ppp4.cinti.net (ppp4. [204.248.144.54]) by gs1.cinti.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA11232 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 01:37:10 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 01:37:10 -0400 Message-Id: <199507280537.BAA11232@gs1.cinti.net> X-Sender: merlyn@mail.cinti.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: merlyn@mail.cinti.net (Randy Karshner) Subject: Tp750ce Questions(SOUND) Hi all, The Thinkpad i bought was used, and came without any software or the manuals. I was able to download most of the software for it from Ibm's ftp server. However i have a couple questions which a couple of you guys might be able to help me out with. Has anyone been able to get Doom/Heretic any newer games at all to use sound? They all ask for a standard set of values.. Like Interrupt, Dma, Etc.. Since i bought this used without manuals i have no idea of what kind of sound hardware it has, and where it resides... I tried using the Tpaudio software, but it dosent work right because i don't know the Interrupts, Dma, etc for this sound chip in my Tp. If anyone can help me through this i would really appreciate it... Its a TP750ce... Randy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 28 09:59:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17180; Fri, 28 Jul 95 09:59:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17707; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 09:47:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 09:47:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17697; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 09:47:17 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id IAA12182 for ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 08:47:09 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 08:47:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199507281347.IAA12182@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: Re: Tp750ce Questions(SOUND) At 01:37 AM 7/28/95 -0400, you wrote: >Hi all, > > The Thinkpad i bought was used, and came without any software or the >manuals. I was able to download most of the software for it from Ibm's >ftp server. However i have a couple questions which a couple of you >guys might be able to help me out with. Has anyone been able to get >Doom/Heretic any newer games at all to use sound? They all ask for >a standard set of values.. Like Interrupt, Dma, Etc.. Since i bought >this used without manuals i have no idea of what kind of sound hardware >it has, and where it resides... I tried using the Tpaudio software, but >it dosent work right because i don't know the Interrupts, Dma, etc for >this sound chip in my Tp. If anyone can help me through this i would >really appreciate it... Its a TP750ce... > >Randy > > The sound chips in the TP750 are fine for MS-Windows, but the Soundblaster compatibility program is software only and will _not_ work with the MS-DOS "extenders" which are so popular in newer ms-dos arcade games like Doom, Decent, etc. The point is, unfortunately, nobody has gotten sound effects to work with Doom/Heretic. IBM has lost interest in it since the newer 755CE/CD/CX etc notebooks with the MWave chip can hardware emulate a Soundblaster and thus work with Doom, etc. Note that many MS-DOS games which do not utilize a 32-bit dos extender work fairly well with the 750 software soundblaster compatibility program. "Wolfenstein 3D" sound runs just fine on the 750, for example, as do many of the Sierra adventure games (i played Police Quest 3 for a while on a 750C and got the sound effects). Sorry --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 28 14:28:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08590; Fri, 28 Jul 95 14:28:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11646; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:19:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:19:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from pasture.ecn.purdue.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11634; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:19:52 -0400 Received: from pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (sears@localhost) by pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (8.6.12/3.7davy) id NAA28610; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 13:19:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199507281819.NAA28610@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 13:19:42 -0500 From: Michael J Sears To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: sears@ecn.purdue.edu Subject: IBM PC Outlet Hello all, I've seen a few references here to the "IBM PC Outlet", can someone post the number? Is this different than "IBM PC Direct"? thanks, Michael +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | ___ | Michael J. Sears, Graduate Student | | ( __ __ __ __ | INTERNET: sears@ecn.purdue.edu | | `-- |--'| || (_ | Department of Agricultural & Biological Engineering | | ___) `-- `--|| __) | Purdue University | | | West Lafayette, Indiana 47907-1146 USA | | | Home Page: http://www.evansville.net/~sears/ | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 28 15:11:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11052; Fri, 28 Jul 95 15:11:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15316; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:59:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:59:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15299; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:59:50 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA23728; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 11:59:47 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id LAA24645; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 11:59:44 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199507281859.LAA24645@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Re[2]: DOS error 21 when executing Win32s programs To: lee@champion.tcs.co.jp (Lee Hounshell) Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 11:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <199507280131.KAA14118@Pion> from "Lee Hounshell" at Jul 28, 95 10:31:45 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Probably I'm going to wait and try Win95. > Although to be honest, I'm kinda apprehensive about the move. > It's taken me a year to get the messy-DOS/Windoze stuff to (mostly) work ok. > I really don't want to spend another year configuring another OS.... Join the club. I'm in no hurry either. I figure I'll let the rest of the general population "beta test" Win '95 for a few months after its official release before I take the plunge. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 28 15:47:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14165; Fri, 28 Jul 95 15:47:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18158; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 15:34:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 15:34:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18148; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 15:34:52 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA8655; Fri, 28 Jul 95 15:35:59 -0400 Message-Id: <9507281935.AA8655@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 2A239F62E1D34A8B852562070069556B; Fri, 28 Jul 95 15:35:56 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 28 Jul 95 15:13:56 Subject: Re: IBM PC Outlet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....I've seen a few references here to the "IBM PC Outlet", can someone post the number? Is this different than "IBM PC Direct"? ....." ~~~~~~~~~~ PC Direct is IBM's in-house "dealership" where they sell lots of stuff other than just IBM products. 800-IBM-2YOU. The PC Factory Outlet is a store in the Triangle Shops (Factory Shops?) shopping center on Airport Rd. in Morrisville/RTP. Don't know the phone number. They're famous for low prices on last year's IBM products. Lots of refurb stuff, too. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst and Middle-Weight Ping Pong Champion Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jul 28 19:26:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05535; Fri, 28 Jul 95 19:26:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05059; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 19:16:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 19:16:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mthood.ohsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05041; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 19:16:50 -0400 Received: by mthood.ohsu.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI.AUTO) for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU id QAA24267; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 16:14:17 -0700 From: "Ronald Sakaguchi" Message-Id: <9507281614.ZM24265@mthood.ohsu.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 16:14:12 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: How to install Warp on 755CD? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'd like to install OS/2 Warp (CD-ROM version) on my 755CD, but was told by IBM tech support that it can't be done because the floppy and CD-ROM need to be hot swapped during installation. Is there a work around for this? I seem to remember seeing something about copying the OS/2 boot disk and editing the config.sys. Any suggestions will be gratefully accepted! RLS -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ronald L. Sakaguchi, DDS, MS, PhD Dept of Biomaterials & Biomechanics Associate Professor Oregon Health Sciences University voice: (503) 494-8692 611 SW Campus Drive, SD-503 fax: (503) 494-8260 Portland, OR 97201-3097 rls@mthood.ohsu.edu ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jul 29 21:48:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18301; Sat, 29 Jul 95 21:48:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09830; Sat, 29 Jul 1995 21:33:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 29 Jul 1995 21:33:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09820; Sat, 29 Jul 1995 21:33:32 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id SAA26326 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 1995 18:33:30 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id SAA12724 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Sat, 29 Jul 1995 18:33:28 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199507300133.SAA12724@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Web Page I stumbled across To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 18:33:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just stumbled across a ThinkPad-oriented Web page and thought the list might like to know the address. Here y'all go: http://www.wimsey.com/PacificaBlue/thinkpad ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 30 02:39:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08625; Sun, 30 Jul 95 02:39:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28033; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 02:31:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 02:31:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28023; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 02:31:05 -0400 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA16992; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 02:26:24 -0400 Message-Id: <9507300626.AA16992@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: Memory upgrades for 755CX To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 02:26:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Okay, my 755CX is ordered, the port replicator I is ordered, etc. I've really appreciated everyone's advice and help so far. I've seen stuff about IC DRAM memory and another type which requires a Memory Module Adaptor. The latter variety is more expensive, but seems to allow for greater expansion (two slots rather than one for the IC DRAM). I'm considering adding either 8M or 16M to the 755CX, but don't expect to add any more during the time I own it; especially as a 16M IC DRAM card would bring it up to 24M RAM. Does anyone have a compelling reason what I should spend more money (at least $80) for the version that requires the Memory Module Adapter. Any pointers to good, cheap sources for 755cx memory would be appreciated. Thanks again. -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 30 02:57:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09605; Sun, 30 Jul 95 02:57:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28751; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 02:51:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 02:51:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28739; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 02:51:40 -0400 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA32213; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 02:18:57 -0400 Message-Id: <9507300618.AA32213@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: Re: WarpConnect + PortReplicator I + PCMCIA ethernet; hot docking? (Summary) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 02:18:57 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <9507251506.AA24660@hepth.cornell.edu> from "Lew Jansen" at Jul 25, 95 11:06:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text I had asked the list about hot-docking with a 755CX and a Port Replicator I, specifically if there was any PCMCIA ethernet cards which would work with this setup (including hot-docking) under Warp. IBM Tech Support had said that you had to turn off the Thinkpad before docking/undocking and I wanted to see if this was in fact true. Unfortunately, it seems to be so. I had reports that Thinkpads really don't like to be undocked from a without rebooting -- the network drivers got rather upset and tended to lock up or crash the machine. Guess I'll just have to get used to the idea of rebooting every time. Thanks to all who responded. -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 30 03:30:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10766; Sun, 30 Jul 95 03:30:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00396; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 03:18:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 03:18:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tom.compulink.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00386; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 03:18:27 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by tom.compulink.co.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA25239 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 08:17:49 +0100 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 95 08:17 BST-1 From: g_prosser@cix.compulink.co.uk (Gerry Prosser) Subject: How to install Warp on a 755CD ? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: g_prosser@cix.compulink.co.uk Reply-To: g_prosser@cix.compulink.co.uk Message-Id: First, you need about 40MB spare on your hard drive. Once you have got that, do the following: 1. with the cdrom drive installed: a) save the disk0.dsk and dsk1.dsk images out of \diskimgs\os2\35 - I believe you can use the ones provided with the warp distribution package, but they waste time sniffing around your system for ide and scsi cdrom drives. b) xcopy /s /e the whole of the os2image library (inc all its sub- directories) to your hard drive 2. swap your cdrom for the diskette drive: a) cut your new disk0 and disk1 images using loaddskf /y/q/f b) edit config.sys on disk 1 to add 'set sourcepath=d:\os2image' (or whatever you xcopy'd to) as the last statement c) copy the new disk0 and disk1 diskettes to \os2image\disk_0 and \os2image\disk_1, respectively 3. cross your fingers, shutdown the ThinkPad, and re-boot from the new install diskette (disk0). Gerry -------- Original Message -------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jul 29 00:35:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU (CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.1]) by tom.compulink.co.uk (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA25682 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 1995 00:35:05 +0100 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05059; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 19:16:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 19:16:55 EDT Errors-to: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mthood.ohsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA05041; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 19:16:50 -0400 Received: by mthood.ohsu.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI.AUTO) for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU id QAA24267; Fri, 28 Jul 1995 16:14:17 -0700 From: "Ronald Sakaguchi" Message-Id: <9507281614.ZM24265@mthood.ohsu.edu> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 16:14:12 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: How to install Warp on 755CD? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Apparently-To: g_prosser@cix.compulink.co.uk I'd like to install OS/2 Warp (CD-ROM version) on my 755CD, but was told by IBM tech support that it can't be done because the floppy and CD-ROM need to be hot swapped during installation. Is there a work around for this? I seem to remember seeing something about copying the OS/2 boot disk and editing the config.sys. Any suggestions will be gratefully accepted! RLS -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ronald L. Sakaguchi, DDS, MS, PhD Dept of Biomaterials & Biomechanics Associate Professor Oregon Health Sciences University voice: (503) 494-8692 611 SW Campus Drive, SD-503 fax: (503) 494-8260 Portland, OR 97201-3097 rls@mthood.ohsu.edu ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 30 09:39:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00156; Sun, 30 Jul 95 09:39:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24849; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 09:26:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 09:26:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ada.cs.fsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24839; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 09:26:16 -0400 Received: by ada.cs.fsu.edu (5.65/56) id AA13000; Sat, 29 Jul 95 12:51:45 -0400 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 95 12:51:45 -0400 From: Ted Baker Message-Id: <9507291651.AA13000@ada.cs.fsu.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP755CX 800x600 mode I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has experience specifically with Linux XFree86 on the TP755CX (which has a 800x600 TFT panel), or with the WD90CX video controller in general. Lacking this, I would appreciate advice as to how I might obtain the techical data I need to configure XFree86 for this machine, or to update the SVGA driver it that proves necessary. --Ted Baker PS: I bought he CX based on the reports I'd heard of success with Linux on the other 755 models, but it seems this may be too near the "bleeding edge" of technology. When I sit here looking a miniscule 640x480 display in the middle of my 800x600 panel, and realize that the built-in DSP is apparently not going to do me any good, I regret not buying something more basic. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 30 12:05:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12075; Sun, 30 Jul 95 12:05:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03436; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 11:58:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 11:58:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA03425; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 11:58:37 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id MAA13612; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 12:03:11 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 12:03:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Lew Jansen Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: WarpConnect + PortReplicator I + PCMCIA ethernet; hot docking? (Summary) In-Reply-To: <9507300618.AA32213@hepth.cornell.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 30 Jul 1995, Lew Jansen wrote: > I had asked the list about hot-docking with a 755CX and a Port Replicator I, > > Unfortunately, it seems to be so. I had reports that Thinkpads really don't > like to be undocked from a without rebooting -- the network drivers got rather > upset and tended to lock up or crash the machine. Guess I'll just have to get > used to the idea of rebooting every time. You could try hitting the eject button on the ether card before undocking. If the drivers are robust enough to allow the pcmcia card to be removed, then the only problem might be that undocking doesn't send the "card has been ejected" signal to the drivers. Perhaps if you do that and _then_ undock, the drivers will not lock up. On another note - what did you pay for the PR I? I haven't seen prices for it or the II lately, was thinkign of buying one.... ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 30 12:07:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12088; Sun, 30 Jul 95 12:07:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03842; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 12:02:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 12:02:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03832; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 12:02:39 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id MAA13955; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 12:07:16 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 12:07:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Randal Whittle Cc: TP Subject: Re: Toshiba HD upgrade In-Reply-To: <199507241842.LAA27613@aludra.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 24 Jul 1995, Randal Whittle wrote: > > Trust me, swapping drives in the case is _not_ very hard - certainly not > > worth $100. _I_ will do it for anyone on the list for $10 and you pay > > shipping, if you don't feel confident enough to do it yourself. > > What I'm curious about Don, is if one can get away without using > *any* hard drive enclosure at all? Well, from a very strict standpoint, all you "need" is the cable that makes the 44 pin 2.5" IDE drive into the AMP connector that sockets onto the 'pads mainboard. But then your drive would rattle around. It seems likely you could make something as an enclosure if you wanted to, the problem is that AMP connector. Nobody has been able to find the part number for it in order to get it from AMP. IBM, understandable, has been less than eager to pony it up. We need to find a friend in the TP engineering department who can get us a list of generic part numbers. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 30 15:31:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26215; Sun, 30 Jul 95 15:31:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14361; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 15:23:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 15:23:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14341; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 15:23:40 -0400 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA32150; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 15:18:55 -0400 Message-Id: <9507301918.AA32150@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: Re: WarpConnect + PortReplicator I + PCMCIA ethernet; hot docking? (Summary) To: dwhite@shadow.net (Don Whiteside) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 15:18:55 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, lrj@hepth.cornell.edu (Lew Jansen) In-Reply-To: from "Don Whiteside" at Jul 30, 95 12:03:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text On Sun, 30 Jul 1995, Don Whiteside wrote: > You could try hitting the eject button on the ether card before > undocking. If the drivers are robust enough to allow the pcmcia card to > be removed, then the only problem might be that undocking doesn't send > the "card has been ejected" signal to the drivers. Perhaps if you do that > and _then_ undock, the drivers will not lock up. Thanks for the suggestion -- I'll give that a shot when I get the hardware in a week or so and report back to the list... I wonder if the problem might also have to do with two of the four total PCMCIA slots disappearing when you undock, and the system BIOS getting upset about it. (of course, I don't know a whole lot about PCMCIA, so this may be way off track) > On another note - what did you pay for the PR I? I haven't seen prices > for it or the II lately, was thinkign of buying one.... I ordered my PR I from Computer Discount Warehouse, it was $304.44. CDW's part number is "CDW35099", IBM's part number is 66G3510. They had a handful of them in stock at the end of last week. The PR II is somewhere around $100; but I wanted the PCMCIA slots. -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 30 15:47:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26784; Sun, 30 Jul 95 15:47:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15702; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 15:43:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 15:43:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15691; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 15:42:58 -0400 From: Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA232763347; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 15:42:27 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 15:42:27 -0400 Message-Id: <950730154224_126395088@aol.com> To: mschaef@cs.utexas.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: CD ROM drives In a message dated 95-07-27 09:41:11 EDT, mschaef@cs.utexas.edu (Mike Schaeffer) writes: >On Tue, 25 Jul 1995, Chris Schumann wrote: >>The smaller discs >> are 8cm, or about 3.15". > Are these ever used? And does the 755cd support them? I thought >this size was just for CD-Audio singles. > > -Mike > > 8cm CD's are used for data purposes in the Sony DATA Discman. Otherwise, the majority usage of 8cm CD's are audio singles. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 30 19:01:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10804; Sun, 30 Jul 95 19:01:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27412; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 18:55:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 18:55:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ada.cs.fsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27397; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 18:55:06 -0400 Received: by ada.cs.fsu.edu (5.65/56) id AA13239; Sun, 30 Jul 95 18:51:45 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 95 18:51:45 -0400 From: Ted Baker Message-Id: <9507302251.AA13239@ada.cs.fsu.edu> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP755CX | Please introduce yourself! Tell us what kind of machine you have, | how it's configured (how much memory/disk, what accessories, etc.), | and what operating system(s) you are using. (send this to the LIST | address -- don't just reply to this message!) OK. I'll tell my story as it has unfolded so far, but forgive me if it is too long. I just bought a TP755CX, whose main claims to greatness are the Pentium processor and 800x600 display. It somes with 8Mbytes of RAM and 810 Mbytes of disk. I added a 32Mbyte RAM card, since I plan on doing big compiles, and would like to speed these up using a RAM disk. I intended to use this machine on the road, with LaTeX at IEEE POSIX meetings (for my work as Technical Editor for the IEEE POSIX.5b project) and as a development station for porting our Pthreads and Ada tasking (GNARL) implementation to Linux. I also ordered an IBM PCMCIA ethernet card, version II, which I have sent back. My plan was to ftp Slackware via the ethernet onto the disk using DOS, and install it from ther. This did not work very well, since I could not find a (DOS) packet driver for that PCMCIA card, and IBM supplies it with a male RJ45 connector. Between trying to adapt the gender of the connector and the lack of packet driver, I was frustrated enough to send the card back to IBM. I installed Slackware using a borrowed PCMCIA card from a colleague, who has a Sager 90Mhz pentium laptop machine. I have now ordered one of the Sager PCMCIA ethernet card (about half the price of the IBM card), since it apparently works OK with both DOS and Linux on the TP as well as the Sager machine. Before installing Linux, we zipped up all the preinstalled software, and ftp'd it to another system for backup, figuring we could reinstall what we wanted later. This was a mistake. If you do this, run the "disk factory" utility, and make installation disks of everything, before you start. You may want to use DOS and/or OS/2 to be able to take advantage of all the nifty DSP software. I only reserved about 200 Mbytes for DOS, and scrapped OS/2. This is not enough space to reload the software. The preinstalled stuff takes over 400 Mbytes, and has components in various directories. The only way to remove things cleanly is to use the remove-utilities provided with the software. You can't really reinstall just pieces, unless you have first used the IBM-supplied "disk factory" to make your own installation disks. (This is aggravated by the fact that the disk factory software crashes when you run it to create disks for the OS/2 windows installation.) We tried to restore enough of the DOS installation to allow us to ftp over Slackware. The result is an oversized and crippled DOS/Windows installation, with a lot of miscellaneous junk from OS/2 and other preinstalled software, that came along in the directories we restored. There is no reasonable way to get all this stuff out of there, since the uninstall utility dies if it larg chunks are already missing. It looks like I've effectively lost all the preinstalled software, unless I want to remove Linux, repartition the disk, restore the whole thing, and start over. Slackware, which I downloaded from sunsite.unc.edu, installed with no hitches. XFree86 came up with no trouble in 640x480 mode, using the XF86Config file from the TP755 FAQ. I fetched linux-1.2.11, modules-1.2.8, apm_bios.0.5, and pcmcia-cs-2.6.2, and built a new kernel. It seems to run OK. I still have the following problems: 1. APM only partly works. If I use the daemon, it does put the screen into sleep mode after a period of idleness, but it keeps the disk running, and if I use the fcn-key bindings to idle the machine, it locks up. Killing the daemon restored use of the key bindings. I don't know how to proceed on this without some documentation on the TP's apm controller and bios. 2. When you come out of X11, the tty video controller is left in a weird state. Portions of the line seem to be overwritten, and shifted slightly, so that you end up with some characters duplicated and overwritten. It is useless until you power down the system. 3. No amount of fiddling with XF86Config gave access to the 800x600 pixel mode. Looking at the clock numbers reported by the SVGA driver, from several experiments between which I used the display in 800x600 vis DOS/Windows, I see differences that indicate one probably needs to reprogram the controller to adjust the clock rate. 4. I guess I am going to have to sacrifice all the neat functionality of the DSP, including modem and sound card services, since I've not seen anything on the net about support for that under Linux. I'm most worried about problems 2 and 3, since right now my display at 640x480 is smaller than most el-cheapo laptops, with a nice big black border all around it, of unused pixels. It seems problems 2 and 3 will require mucking with the SVGA driver, for which some documentation on the programming interface to the video controller is going to be needed. I tried to get help from IBM tech support, but it turned into a waste of half a day's time on the phone. I must have talked to over a dozen people, but it was a merry-go-round. They passed me back and forth, through various phone numbers, each time eventually coming back to the same number. Right now, I need to get some real work done, so I've put it aside and am using my trust Sun workstation until I can get some more information. Besides e-mail to this list, my efforts to get more information will include a call to the IBM publications folks to see if I can find any sort of hardware reference manual for this machine. I've also asked Western Digital for data sheets on their WD90C24 chip set, which the SVGA driver seems to think is present, and am waitint to see if they help any. If you have any advice or information that might help, I would be pleased to hear from you. Prof. Ted Baker Department of Computer Science Florida State University Tallahassee, FL 32306-4019 phone: 904-644-5452 fax: 904-644-0058 e-mail: baker@cs.fsu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jul 30 19:47:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13717; Sun, 30 Jul 95 19:47:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29367; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 19:41:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 19:41:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29356; Sun, 30 Jul 1995 19:41:55 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA02400; Sun, 30 Jul 95 19:42:50 EDT Date: Sun, 30 Jul 95 19:42:50 EDT From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507302342.AA02400@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: baker@ada.cs.fsu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755CX 800x600 mode why the heck are you looking at a 640 x 480 display, why are yuou not using the 800 x 600 drivers??? Also why won't the built-in DSP do anything for you? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 31 03:47:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10524; Mon, 31 Jul 95 03:47:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00534; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 03:36:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 03:36:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from internet-gw.zurich.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00490; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 03:35:51 -0400 Received: from [9.4.23.208] by internet-gw.zurich.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA81251 from ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 09:35:41 +0200 Received: by clariden.zurich.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA25915 from ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 09:35:36 +0200 Message-Id: <9507310735.AA25915@clariden.zurich.ibm.com> To: Ted Baker Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755CX In-Reply-To: (Your message of Sun, 30 Jul 95 18:51:45 D.) <9507302251.AA13239@ada.cs.fsu.edu> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 09:35:35 +0100 From: Michael Steiner > 1. APM only partly works. If I use the daemon, it does put the > screen into sleep mode after a period of idleness, but it keeps > the disk running, and if I use the fcn-key bindings to idle the > machine, it locks up. Killing the daemon restored use of the > key bindings. I don't know how to proceed on this without some > documentation on the TP's apm controller and bios. with 0.5 you don't really need the daemon. the kernel routines should handle everything fine. The problem you describe is probably because you use PCMCIA cards. it seems that the Thinkpad does not properly process APM request if PCMCIA cards are active (e.g it does not pass the APM request the kernel handler which could when disable the cards). if you suspend the PCMCIA card by hand ("cardctl suspend 1" and "cardctl suspend 2") it should work fine for suspend as well as hibernate. (note: when you resume the cards will be reenabled by the kernel apm rsp the PCMCIA drivers automaticaly) > 2. When you come out of X11, the tty video controller is left in > a weird state. Portions of the line seem to be overwritten, > and shifted slightly, so that you end up with some characters > duplicated and overwritten. It is useless until you power down > the system. i don't know about this problems but some problems with the display of the 750Cs could be resolved by hitting 'Fn-7'. -michael steiner- =============================================================================== Michael Steiner IBM Research Lab Zelgstrasse 8 Saeumerstrasse 4 CH-8134 Adliswil ___________ CH-8803 Rueschlikon 01 / 710 30 32 | 01 / 724 82 86 ^ ---------------------------------(_)--------------------------------- learning the art of flying: "throwing yourself at the ground and miss" (Douglas Adams, "Life, the Universe and Everything") PS: my gate to the internet PGP key =============================================================================== From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 31 03:55:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10835; Mon, 31 Jul 95 03:55:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02604; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 03:50:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 03:50:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02586; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 03:50:07 -0400 From: Received: from opera.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 09:49:48 +0200 Received: by opera.chorus.fr; Mon, 31 Jul 95 09:49:47 +0200 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 09:49:47 +0200 Message-Id: <9507310749.AA25208@opera.chorus.fr> To: baker@ada.cs.fsu.edu Subject: Re: TP755CX Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Hello Ted, > > I just bought a TP755CX, whose main claims to greatness are the > Pentium processor and 800x600 display. It somes with 8Mbytes of > RAM and 810 Mbytes of disk. I added a 32Mbyte RAM card, since I > plan on doing big compiles, and would like to speed these up using > a RAM disk. What a wonderful config you've got ! I do only have a poor 360CSE with 4Mb of RAM and 340Mb of disk space. I am running DOS/Windows on a small compressed paritition (40MB) and the left room is used by Linux. > > I also ordered an IBM PCMCIA ethernet card, version II, which I > have sent back. My plan was to ftp Slackware via the ethernet > onto the disk using DOS, and install it from ther. This did not > work very well, since I could not find a (DOS) packet driver for > that PCMCIA card, and IBM supplies it with a male RJ45 connector. > Between trying to adapt the gender of the connector and the lack > of packet driver, I was frustrated enough to send the card back to > IBM. I have also been disappointed by the Ethernet Card. A few weeks ago, I purchased a Xircom PCMCIA Card. I thought it was supported by the Linux PCMCIA package from David Hinds, but apparently, it is not. There seems to be a problem with Xircom not publishing the technical information about their cards. Checking with the customer service, it seems that we have to buy a developpers kit ! The card does, of course, run under r DOS/Windows but it's useless for me. I think I'd better buy a simple (less efficient) D-Link card which it supported by both operating systems. > I still have the following problems: > > 1. APM only partly works. If I use the daemon, it does put the > screen into sleep mode after a period of idleness, but it keeps > the disk running, and if I use the fcn-key bindings to idle the > machine, it locks up. Killing the daemon restored use of the > key bindings. I don't know how to proceed on this without some > documentation on the TP's apm controller and bios. Can't help you on this point > > 2. When you come out of X11, the tty video controller is left in > a weird state. Portions of the line seem to be overwritten, > and shifted slightly, so that you end up with some characters > duplicated and overwritten. It is useless until you power down > the system. OK, this is a classical problem with Thinkpads, I do have the same problem. The trick is as follow to avoid rebooting: On exit from X11, you must press the Fn+F7 key and you'll get the text screen again. > > 3. No amount of fiddling with XF86Config gave access to the 800x600 > pixel mode. Looking at the clock numbers reported by the SVGA driver, > from several experiments between which I used the display in 800x600 > vis DOS/Windows, I see differences that indicate one probably needs > to reprogram the controller to adjust the clock rate. Do not have enough pixels on my display to help you here !!! > > 4. I guess I am going to have to sacrifice all the neat > functionality of the DSP, including modem and sound card services, > since I've not seen anything on the net about support for that > under Linux. > No on-board modem on my Thinkpad but just a PCMCIA one (which seems OK : supported !) -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 31 09:39:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26887; Mon, 31 Jul 95 09:39:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29795; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 09:31:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 09:31:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from micros.micros.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29782; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 09:31:42 -0400 Received: from smtplink.micros.com by micros.micros.com id aa15429; 31 Jul 95 9:31 EDT Received: from cc:Mail by smtplink.micros.com id AA807207967; 29 Jul 95 16:26:52 EST Date: 29 Jul 95 16:26:52 EST From: "Gerber, Josh" Message-Id: <9506318072.AA807207967@smtplink.micros.com> To: Michael J Sears , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: IBM PC Outlet The PC Outlet is, in fact, much different from PC Direct. They offer refurbished and new (but very discontinued) equipment at some pretty good prices. I got my 755 Cs from there and was very happy with the deal. Their number is 800-426-7015 and offers a fax-back price list. One caveat, however: don't expect that handy sales-tax exemption for out of state mail orders...IBM has incorporated in all 50 states, therefore, you pay your home state's tax. -j ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: IBM PC Outlet Author: Michael J Sears at SMTPLINK-Micros Date: 7/28/95 2:40 PM Hello all, I've seen a few references here to the "IBM PC Outlet", can someone post the number? Is this different than "IBM PC Direct"? thanks, Michael +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | ___ | Michael J. Sears, Graduate Student | | ( __ __ __ __ | INTERNET: sears@ecn.purdue.edu | | `-- |--'| || (_ | Department of Agricultural & Biological Engineering | | ___) `-- `--|| __) | Purdue University | | | West Lafayette, Indiana 47907-1146 USA | | | Home Page: http://www.evansville.net/~sears/ | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 31 09:44:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27258; Mon, 31 Jul 95 09:44:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00609; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 09:39:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 09:39:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ada.cs.fsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00599; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 09:39:34 -0400 Received: by ada.cs.fsu.edu (5.65/56) id AA13436; Mon, 31 Jul 95 09:36:10 -0400 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 09:36:10 -0400 From: Ted Baker Message-Id: <9507311336.AA13436@ada.cs.fsu.edu> To: baker@ada.cs.fsu.edu, dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755CX 800x600 mode | why the heck are you looking at a 640 x 480 display, why are yuou | not using the 800 x 600 drivers??? Did you read my message? As I said, I can't figure any way to get the Linux SVGA driver to work with 800 x 600. It reports that it has detected a WD90C24, but that it does not know how to use that so it is treating it as a WD90C30. By observation, it is clearly not 100% compatible. For example, one time I run X11 I get clocks: 28.35 28.32 28.73 28.32 28.35 28.32 28.32 28.32 28.35 28.32 28.32 28.32 28.35 28.32 28.32 28.32 31.53 Another time I run it I get: 22.50 28.32 23.77 25.25 22.52 28.32 23.77 25.03 24.34 28.32 23.76 25.03 22.50 28.36 23.77 25.03 25.03 It seems the clocks are programmable, but the WD90C30 driver seems to assume they are not. To use the 800x600 resolution I need a higher dot-clock. Hence, it seems I need to modify the driver. | Also why won't the built-in DSP do anything for you? The DSP drivers are provided for DOS and OS/2. There must be DSP code to provide the various functions, and in principle, one ought to be able to load it with Linux, but the 486-side software is not there. The interface between DSP code and 486-side code does not seem to be one IBM publicizes. --Ted Baker From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 31 14:08:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17351; Mon, 31 Jul 95 14:08:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21980; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 13:58:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 13:58:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21954; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 13:58:19 -0400 Received: by SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA05295; Mon, 31 Jul 95 13:39:28 EDT Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 13:39:28 EDT From: dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9507311739.AA05295@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> To: baker@ada.cs.fsu.edu, dewar@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755CX 800x600 mode sorry, I completely missed that you were using Linux, yes indeed there are missing drivers here, and the CX does not look like a good choice for Linux until this driver situation is solved. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 31 14:39:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20343; Mon, 31 Jul 95 14:39:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24949; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 14:30:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 14:30:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24932; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 14:30:48 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA07963 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 11:30:43 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id LAA06042 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 11:30:41 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199507311830.LAA06042@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: TP755CX 800x600 mode To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 11:30:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9507302342.AA02400@SCHONBERG.CS.NYU.EDU> from "Robert Dewar" at Jul 30, 95 07:42:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > why the heck are you looking at a 640 x 480 display, why are yuou not > using the 800 x 600 drivers??? It seemed to me that the gentleman was disappointed because he was trying to use Linux and it was running in 640x480--presumably without an 800x600 driver for the Thinkpad display. > Also why won't the built-in DSP do anything > for you? Probably the same problem--lack of drivers under Linux. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 31 14:40:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20604; Mon, 31 Jul 95 14:40:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25125; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 14:32:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 14:32:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25108; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 14:32:52 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA08112; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 11:32:49 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id LAA06277; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 11:32:46 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199507311832.LAA06277@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Win '95 Release Date To: lee@champion.tcs.co.jp (Lee Hounshell) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 11:32:44 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <199507310101.KAA20478@Pion> from "Lee Hounshell" at Jul 31, 95 10:01:36 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Do you know when Win95 is scheduled for official release? > and/or when it will be generally available in stores? August 24th, I think. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 31 16:01:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00058; Mon, 31 Jul 95 16:01:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03416; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 15:48:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 15:48:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03405; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 15:48:47 -0400 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28274; Mon, 31 Jul 95 15:48:25 -0400 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0um) id AA0049; Mon, 31 Jul 95 15:48:46 -0400 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 15:48:46 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Message-Id: <9507311948.AA0049@omerie.ai.mit.edu> To: baker@ada.cs.fsu.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Mon, 31 Jul 95 09:36:10 -0400 from Ted Baker Subject: TP755CX 800x600 mode Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 09:36:10 -0400 From: Ted Baker As I said, I can't figure any way to get the Linux SVGA driver to work with 800 x 600. It reports that it has detected a WD90C24, but that it does not know how to use that so it is treating it as a WD90C30. By observation, it is clearly not 100% compatible. [...] It seems the clocks are programmable, but the WD90C30 driver seems to assume they are not. To use the 800x600 resolution I need a higher dot-clock. Hence, it seems I need to modify the driver. There is some unusual behavior with the Linux SVGA driver when running on ThinkPads. First, in order to get an accurate clocks list, you must connect an external monitor to the 'Pad. I don't know why this is so, but it has been true for all 'Pads, and presumably is also true for the 755CX. Once you have the clocks list, you can put it in the config file and forget it. It's entirely possible that you can use a clocks list from another 755 model, so if you can't get a proper clocks list for your model, try the list below. There is no functional difference between the wd90c24 and the wd90c30, which is why your 24 is identified as a 30. However, the driver is unable to detect the difference between the wd90c24/wd90c30 and the wd90c24a/wd90c31 -- and this _does_ matter, for performance reasons. Force the use of the wd90c31 by an appropriate "chipset" declaration in the config: Section "Device" Identifier "ThinkPad 755C Video" VendorName "Western Digital" BoardName "Unknown" Chipset "wd90c31" Clocks 25.17 28.32 64.99 35.99 25.18 28.36 65.05 35.99 Clocks 25.18 28.32 64.99 36.00 25.18 28.32 65.06 35.99 Clocks 44.28 VideoRam 1024 EndSection Finally, there are at least two WWW pages for ThinkPads running Linux, and you should check them out for any further hints. I seem to recall that one of them addresses the issues involved with the 755CX video. The first of these is a bit more complete than the second: http://peipa.essex.ac.uk/tp-linux/tp-linux.html http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse/linux/ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 31 16:03:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00070; Mon, 31 Jul 95 16:03:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04174; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 15:54:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 15:54:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA04163; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 15:54:40 -0400 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28935; Mon, 31 Jul 95 15:54:18 -0400 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0um) id AA0050; Mon, 31 Jul 95 15:54:38 -0400 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 15:54:38 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Message-Id: <9507311954.AA0050@omerie.ai.mit.edu> To: Cc: baker@ada.cs.fsu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Mon, 31 Jul 95 09:49:47 +0200 from Subject: TP755CX From: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 95 09:49:47 +0200 I have also been disappointed by the Ethernet Card. A few weeks ago, I purchased a Xircom PCMCIA Card. I thought it was supported by the Linux PCMCIA package from David Hinds, but apparently, it is not. There seems to be a problem with Xircom not publishing the technical information about their cards. Checking with the customer service, it seems that we have to buy a developpers kit ! The card does, of course, run under r DOS/Windows but it's useless for me. I think I'd better buy a simple (less efficient) D-Link card which it supported by both operating systems. Actually, buying a developer's kit is insufficient. The problem is that you must sign a non-disclosure agreement in order to get the information necessary to write the driver, which is inconsistent with developing a freeware driver that will be distributed in source-code form. This is a short-sighted decision on the part of XIRCOM and as a result they have completely shut themselves out of the Linux market. It may not be a large market, but revealing that information wouldn't change their market position relative to their competitors, so they have given up some sales without gaining a tangible result in return. If you want a good card that is fully supported in all of the environments that I know of, get the 3com 3c589. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 31 18:06:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13748; Mon, 31 Jul 95 18:06:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16865; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 17:56:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 17:56:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from asimov.cnam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16844; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 17:56:32 -0400 Received: from (eronald@localhost) by asimov.cnam.fr id XAA14524 (8.6.12/); Mon, 31 Jul 1995 23:55:35 +0200 From: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 23:55:35 +0200 Message-Id: <199507312155.XAA14524@asimov.cnam.fr> To: baker@ada.cs.fsu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755CX 800x600 mode We linux people need to get the message out to manufacturers that our system has as many users as OS/* :) Edmund. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jul 31 22:03:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29573; Mon, 31 Jul 95 22:03:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01666; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 21:53:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 21:53:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01656; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 21:53:03 -0400 Received: (from stanwass@localhost) by ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (8.6.10/8.6.10) id LAA08218; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 11:51:26 +1000 From: Stanley Wasserman Message-Id: <199508010151.LAA08218@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU> Subject: Re: Win '95 Release Date To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randal Whittle) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 11:51:24 +1000 (EST) Cc: lee@champion.tcs.co.jp, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199507311832.LAA06277@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at Jul 31, 95 11:32:44 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all: I do hope that someone will take the time and get WIN95 up and running on a TP (preferably a TP 750, which is what I have), and then share this experience with the entire group. That is -- let us all know what must be done to configure a TP for WIN95! Thanks! SW -> ->> Do you know when Win95 is scheduled for official release? ->> and/or when it will be generally available in stores? -> -> August 24th, I think. -> ->----- ____________________________ ->Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | ->USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | -> "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| -> Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -> -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner -> -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Stanley Wasserman University of Illinois Psychology and Statistics Beckman Institute University of Melbourne School of Behavioural Sciences ****************************************************************************** stanwass@uiuc.edu * stanwass@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au * ********************************* * 1 217 333-3325 * 1 217 244-6905 * 1 217 244-5876 (fax) * ****************************************************************************** From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 1 03:57:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23381; Tue, 1 Aug 95 03:57:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00989; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 03:42:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 03:42:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blob.best.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA00977; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 03:42:44 -0400 From: Received: from 204.156.137.12 (sandy.vip.best.com [204.156.137.12]) by blob.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA00923; Mon, 31 Jul 1995 22:52:22 -0700 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 22:52:22 -0700 Message-Id: <199508010552.WAA00923@blob.best.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How to install Windows95 - A few suggestions..... To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: Stanley Wasserman In-Reply-To: <199508010151.LAA08218@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU> X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, Stanley Wasserman wrote: >Dear all: > >I do hope that someone will take the time and get WIN95 > up and running on a TP (preferably a TP 750, which is > what I have), and then share this experience with the > entire group. >That is -- let us all know what must be done to configure > a TP for WIN95! I've been running Windows95 (beta - build 490) on my TP755CX (810Mb hard drive - 24MB memory) and the installation process went smoothly because I took the time to prep my system for the install. However, based on my experience of installing the beta versions on various systems over the past few months, I strongly suggest you "look before you leap". For ThinkPad users, IBM has prepared a pre-install document called tpwin95.exe which can be downloaded from their WWW site (http://www.pc.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ftpfiles?action=list&dir=34) or their FTP site (ftp.pcco.ibm.com). This document describes how to install the beta version of Win95 on various ThinkPad models and will probably still be accurate for the initial public release of Win95 scheduled for August 24 (build 950?). As a general observation, I haven't seen any Win95 install do exactly the same thing...probably because every system has different hardware and software configurations. In fact, until I started to use some of the preparatory procedures which follow, I found the Win95 install program to be somewhat inconsistent and unpredictable. I guess "plug 'n play" isn't perfected yet, but it does try hard to please. ;-) Here are some basic suggestions which might help you install Win95 on ANY system, including ThinkPads. First, I'm assuming you're already running some version of Windows (3.1, WFWG 3.11) and that it is working properly with all of your hardware: 1. Copy your entire Windows directory (with subdirectories) to a new directory...win3 works okay for me. From DOS, "cd" into your Windows directory and type: xcopy *.* c:\win3 /s /e /v /y This will copy everything into win3 on drive "c". 2. Do the same with your DOS directory...dos62 is the directory I created. From the DOS directory type: xcopy *.* c:\dos62 /s /e /v /y 3. Edit your autoexec.bat, config.sys, win.ini, and system.ini files. Remove your memory management stuff (i.e. QEMM) and any strange drivers. Make autoexec and config as "clean" as possible, but make sure you can still boot into DOS okay. You can add specific drivers back in after the install if necessary. "REM" out or ";" any unusual devices in the [386Enh] section of system.ini. It usually helps to "REM" out the "load=" and "run=" commands at the beginning of win.ini also. 4. Set your display resolution to 640x480 @256 colors before the install. Again, this just makes it easier on the install process. You can change it back to higher resolutions and/or colors later. Creating "backup" directories makes it much easier to recover from a "bad" Win95 install later. It might install just fine the first time around, but trust me, this is cheap insurance. Win95 will install over your existing Windows (in the "Windows" directory) and also significantly modify your "DOS" directory. If you do experience problems during the install process and want to start over again for any reason, you can use Win95's install program to "uninstall" Win95 and restore everything on your system to its previous configuration. Just make sure you answer "yes" when the Win95 install program asks if you want to save data for a possible uninstall later (takes about 6MB of storage). No matter what happens, you can easily restore everything from your two "backup" directories described above. Just delete the "Windows" and "DOS" directories and rename the backup directories (win3 and dos62) back to their original names (Windows and DOS). Easy, safe, and much better then reloading from scratch and your Windows "user" data (desktop setup, colors, etc.) is restored too. Even if you're impatient to do the install and don't want to prepare your system first, this backup procedure allows you to do your "smoke test" and still recover easily. ;-) My TP755CX came "loaded" with tons of software, but I decided to backup everything to tape, and reinstall "clean" versions of DOS and Windows with ALL of the latest and greatest ThinkPad drivers from IBM (see site info above). Win95 loaded fine the first time around. All of the ThinkPad hardware worked normally except the high-resolution (800x600 @65K color) display which loaded as a 640x480 display, but was easily changed to the high-resolution, high-color driver from within Win95 after the install. All builds of Win95 beta from 490 on support the CX's 800x600 @65K color display. If Win95 installs okay on your ThinkPad and/or desktop, I suggest you keep Windows 3.1 or WFWG 3.11 on your system until you're comfortable with the new operating environment. If you followed my suggestion of copying your existing Windows into a win3 directory, you'll have to edit a few files before you old Windows is fully functional again. Edit the system.ini, win.ini, and progman.ini files (in the win3 directory) and autoexec.bat and config.sys on your old DOS boot diskette to replace ALL references of c:\windows with c:\win3 and replace c:\dos with c:\dos62. Obviously, we don't want old Windows (in the win3 directory) looking for data in the new Win95 (Windows) directory or any programs looking for DOS commands in the new DOS directory. I also suggest you boot from an earlier version of DOS (not Win95's MSDOS 7.0) before running the old Windows program. Boot from diskette, "cd" into the win3 directory, and then type "win" from there. Old Windows should work as before. Boot from the hard drive to load Win95's boot loader. BTW, on my desktop "server", I installed Win95 over Windows on my "C" drive and it recognized that NT3.5 was loaded on my "D" drive and simply replaced "MSDOS" in the boot loader with "Windows95". So, when I boot my system, the boot loader allows me to load Windows95 or NT3.5 from its menu or I boot MSDOS 6.2 from diskette and run my old WFWG 3.11 from my win3 directory as described above. Please forgive my somewhat long-winded and (possibly) oversimplified Win95 install suggestions and procedures. I realize there are other ways to accomplish the same goals, but these have worked for me with my ThinkPad and various desktop systems. It's possible that Microsoft's "official" Win95 release in August will install easily on your ThinkPad or desktop system without any system preparation, but I wouldn't "hold my breath". Remember, Mr. Murphy developed his famous "law" while he was part of the Windows95 development team. ;-) _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +-----.oOOo--()--oOOo.-------+ | InterNet : sandy@sandy.com | +-------------- Oooo.--------+ .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 1 11:10:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21740; Tue, 1 Aug 95 11:10:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04423; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 10:59:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 10:59:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA04413; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 10:59:53 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0672; Tue, 01 Aug 95 11:01:03 -0400 Message-Id: <9508011501.AA0672@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 6828D31AD9F09DB08525620B00514D76; Tue, 1 Aug 95 11:01:00 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 1 Aug 95 10:49:54 Subject: battery chargers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain anyone know of an external charger for thinkpad batteries? looking for 360C, 755C and 755CD. I don't even know if such a product exists, but we all have extra batteries & no way to charge them while the other is in use. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst and Tailgate Party Host Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 1 12:06:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27231; Tue, 1 Aug 95 12:06:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10412; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 11:59:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 11:59:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10402; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 11:58:58 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id KAA29489 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 10:58:47 -0500 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 10:58:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199508011558.KAA29489@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: Re: Win '95 Release Date At 11:51 AM 8/1/95 +1000, you wrote: >Dear all: > >I do hope that someone will take the time and get WIN95 > up and running on a TP (preferably a TP 750, which is > what I have), and then share this experience with the > entire group. >That is -- let us all know what must be done to configure > a TP for WIN95! IBM has written up a very complete document on installing WIN95 on a thinkpad, incl TP750 model. It is available from their web site. Also, I think someone emailed the document in its entirety to this list a few weeks back (it is quite long). --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 1 12:13:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27489; Tue, 1 Aug 95 12:13:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10805; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 12:01:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 12:01:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from armon.rain.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10792; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 12:01:21 -0400 Received: by armon.rain.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0sdJkk-000DzOC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 09:01 PDT Message-Id: From: mehdi@armon.rain.com (Mehdi Attaran) Subject: Re: battery chargers To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com (Michael Verne/VENTANA) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 09:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9508011501.AA0672@LGATE.vmedia.com> from "Michael Verne/VENTANA" at Aug 1, 95 10:49:54 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > anyone know of an external charger for thinkpad batteries? looking for 360C, > 755C and 755CD. I don't even know if such a product exists, but we all have > extra batteries & no way to charge them while the other is in use. IBM has a product named "Quick Charger II". I've been using it with my ThinkPad 755CD batteries. It is pretty small. It connects between the TP power supply and the TP, and will simultaneously charge an extra battery in addition to the on in the TP. It is fairly llight... about 3 ounces. Unfortunately (or should I say fortunately) I'm off work this week, so I cannot send you the IBM part number for it. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mehdi Attaran mehdi@armon.rain.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!armon!mehdi | | Data: (503) 642-3270 Voice: (503) 649-0719 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 1 15:37:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14826; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:37:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00697; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 15:27:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 15:26:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00681; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 15:26:56 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id PAA12385; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 15:31:26 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 15:31:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Mehdi Attaran Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: battery chargers In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, Mehdi Attaran wrote: > IBM has a product named "Quick Charger II". I've been using it with my > ThinkPad 755CD batteries. It is pretty small. It connects between the > TP power supply and the TP, and will simultaneously charge an extra battery > in addition to the on in the TP. It is fairly llight... about 3 ounces. Whadja pay for it? ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 1 15:38:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14842; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:38:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00622; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 15:26:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 15:26:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00608; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 15:26:08 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id PAA12343; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 15:30:38 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 15:30:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Todd Tannenbaum Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Win '95 Release Date In-Reply-To: <199508011558.KAA29489@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, Todd Tannenbaum wrote: > IBM has written up a very complete document on installing WIN95 on a > thinkpad, incl TP750 model. > > It is available from their web site. Also, I think someone emailed the > document in its entirety to this list a few weeks back (it is quite long). It's also on http://shadow.net/~dwhite/thinkpad.html. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 1 17:36:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26717; Tue, 1 Aug 95 17:36:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12269; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 17:13:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 17:13:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ada.cs.fsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA12258; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 17:13:11 -0400 Received: by ada.cs.fsu.edu (5.65/56) id AA00563; Tue, 1 Aug 95 17:09:37 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 95 17:09:37 -0400 From: Ted Baker Message-Id: <9508012109.AA00563@ada.cs.fsu.edu> To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: battery chargers Try Power Express, at 800-POWER-EX. They have batteries and chargers for just about everything, including IBM products. --Ted Baker From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 2 01:31:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00433; Wed, 2 Aug 95 01:31:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13427; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 01:22:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 01:22:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blob.best.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA13417; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 01:22:12 -0400 From: Received: from 204.156.137.12 (sandy.vip.best.com [204.156.137.12]) by blob.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA14255; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 22:22:09 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 22:22:09 -0700 Message-Id: <199508020522.WAA14255@blob.best.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: How to install Windows95 - A few suggestions..... To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: Stanley Wasserman X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 As a follow up to the Windows95 install suggestions I posted yesterday, there is one more important thing you should do BEFORE installing Windows95 over your existing Windows. Make sure to go into "Control Panel" under Windows 3.1 or WFWG 3.11, click the "enhanced" icon, and change your permanent swap file to a temporary swap file. Keeping your old permanent swap file could confuse Windows95's install program. Preparing your system before the install to make things as simple as possible will greatly enhance your chances of a success on the first try. I read something today I found amusing which I'd like to share with you. I received a copy of IDG's new "Windows 95 Journal" in the mail which appears to be an expensive monthly newsletter dedicated to Windows95. IDG (PC World publisher) apparently sent sample copies to "Windows Professionals" (anyone on Microsoft's beta tester list). I guess it is suppose to be written by high level Windows techies for other Windows techies. Well anyway, they made the following comment about installing Windows95: "Finally, if you expect Windows 95 to install over your finely tuned Windows for Workgroups 3.11 installation without a hitch, you should try this exercise. Stand 6 to 8 inches from a wall. Thrust your head forward until it comes into contact with the wall, and then pull it back. Repeat this action in a rapid fashion until you feel you've had enough." ;-) Like I said, "look before you leap". I'm sure you won't have any problems. _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +-----.oOOo--()--oOOo.-------+ | InterNet : sandy@sandy.com | +-------------- Oooo.--------+ .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 2 03:48:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11152; Wed, 2 Aug 95 03:48:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20859; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 03:38:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 03:38:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from deneb.dfn.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA20653; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 03:35:55 -0400 Received: from unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (rzgw.rz.fh-hannover.de) by deneb.dfn.de (4.1/SMI-4.2) id AA18838; Wed, 2 Aug 95 09:35:11 +0200 Received: from bidnix.bid.fh-hannover.de by unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA26603; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:34:37 +0100 Received: by bidnix.bid.fh-hannover.de (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0sdYI7-000DPhC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 09:32 MET DST Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:32:34 +0200 (MET DST) From: Hanno Wagner To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP755CD and Windows NT? (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, my father has an IBM Thinkpad 755CD and we isntalled Windows NT yesterday. The program itself works okay, but we don't have PCMCIA-Support. IUs there anyone who has the same Thinkpad and PCMCIA-Support. Then, how can we install the internal CD-ROM drive? I have an TP370C, but when I tried to use Windows NT, the kernel stops with the message "boot-device-inaccessible", what does this mean and how can I use WinNT? please, if there is anyone with expieriencie with WinNT, email me under wagner@www.bid.fh-hannover.de Read you, Hanno From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 2 05:29:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16596; Wed, 2 Aug 95 05:29:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA29394; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 05:20:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 05:20:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from duvi.eskom.co.za by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA29298; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 05:20:23 -0400 Received: from netman.eskom.co.za by duvi.eskom.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sdZyD-0001b9C; Wed, 2 Aug 95 11:20 RSA Received: from MP2NFS02/SpoolDir by netman.eskom.co.za (Mercury 1.21); 2 Aug 95 11:20:07 GMT+2 Received: from SpoolDir by MP2NFS02 (Mercury 1.21); 2 Aug 95 11:19:56 GMT+2 From: "Richard Ellerbrock" Organization: ESKOM Information Technology To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:19:48 GMT+2 Subject: Upgrade options for 755c Reply-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za X-Confirm-Reading-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <2FADDCC407E@netman.eskom.co.za> I would like to upgrade my 755c DX4-75 and would like to know what options are available. I currently have a 310meg HD and would like to install a drive of around 800meg. I want the drive internal. Is this possible. Also, is it possible to upgrade to processor? How about the active matrix screen from 640x480 to 800x600? -- richarde@netman.eskom.co.za Richard Ellerbrock (ECNE) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 2 08:44:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26514; Wed, 2 Aug 95 08:44:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12343; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 08:34:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 08:34:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA12330; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 08:34:47 -0400 From: Received: from octave.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 10:40:53 +0200 Received: by octave.chorus.fr; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:40:51 +0200 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:40:51 +0200 Message-Id: <9508020840.AA11382@octave.chorus.fr> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Voice/Fax/Modem installation problem Hello, I have recently purchased a PCMCIA Voice/Fax/Data modem from I/O Ligthning. It comes with a Windows programs called QuickLink. No particular driver is given. I just use the C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV.SYS driver with an AUTODRV.INI file which configures the modem on COM2. The card is detected as COM2 by MSD. Furthermore I can dial and connect to other sites. The problem comes with the voice part of the system. I have a TP360CSE (No Mwave). I have configured the QuickLink message center indicating that the modem has voice and fax capabilties and that the chipset is a Cirrus Logic one. Now when I try to run the CallManager (answering machine), it desperatly says that it is unable to detect the modem and exit. The main program although QuickLink message is OK with my modem settings. I wonder if someone has already had the same kind of problem with this software (perhaps on a TP with Mwave) ? Anyway, I also wonder how it is possible to record a greeting message from the telephone handset: no explanation on how the plug the telephone line (RJ11) ? Can someone help me on that point ? -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 2 09:13:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28102; Wed, 2 Aug 95 09:13:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14680; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:03:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:03:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kitten.mcs.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14670; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:03:37 -0400 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA26694 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 08:03:31 -0500 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Wed, 2 Aug 95 08:03 CDT Received: by mercury.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Wed, 2 Aug 95 08:03 CDT Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 08:03:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeff Fayne Subject: PCMCIA Printer Port Avail? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings, I've been searching for a PCMCIA Printer Port card somewhat unsuccessfully. The only vendor I found (ComputerBoards) hasn't released theirs yet and could not give me a definite release date. Anybody come across such a beast? ___________________________________________________________________________ | Jeffrey Fayne fayne@mcs.com ____ _ | Systems Engineer | __\_\_o____/_| | INX International Ink Co. <[___\_\_-----< | (708)-364-7774 | o' | (708)-364-7825 FAX ___________________________________________________________________________ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 2 10:00:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00304; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:00:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18403; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:49:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:49:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18392; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:49:44 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id GAA15630; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 06:49:38 -0700 Message-Id: <199508021349.GAA15630@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 95 06:51:53 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: Upgrade options for 755c On Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:19:48 GMT+2 you wrote: >I would like to upgrade my 755c DX4-75 and would like to know what >options are available. > >I currently have a 310meg HD and would like to install a drive of >around 800meg. I want the drive internal. Is this possible. Sigma Data makes a series of drives that are TP compatible and approved. Their catalog lists an 810 MB HDD. I'm using their 540 MB drive in my 755Cs, and am quite pleased with it. Roger J. Buffington AB6WR USC Law, Class of '97 Go Trojans! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from | | them (Native Americans). There were great numbers of people who | | needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it | | for themsleves." - John Wayne (actor) | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 2 10:16:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00769; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:16:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20132; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 10:09:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 10:09:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from viper.es.ele.tue.nl by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20122; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 10:09:35 -0400 Received: by viper.es.ele.tue.nl; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 16:09:30 +0200 Received: from E_EME/MAILQUEUE by emelan.eme.ele.tue.nl (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 2 Aug 95 16:19:55 MET-1DST Received: from MAILQUEUE by E_EME (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 2 Aug 95 16:19:45 MET-1DST From: "Maarten van de Velde" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 16:19:44 MET-2DST Subject: Advice/help needed on TP purchase in FL Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-Id: Well, I don't own a ThinkPad yet, but intend to soon ... I will be in Florida at the end of this month (aug 16-27), while there I would like to buy a TP 755CE / 24M RAM (not a card) / 810MB hard-disk at about $5000 (willing to give in on some of the options - prices in the Netherlands are approx. twice as high :-( ). ************************************************************ Please assist me on my quest (...) for such a configuration. ************************************************************ I'd prefer buying in a shop, but someone suggested ordering from the IBM outlet in Raleigh, NC, also offering refurbished models. A problem could be my short stay. Oh yes, are all TP adapters 110-220V these days? And does anybody own a 'Green sports TP Bag' (I saw this advertised in a IBM brochure, included in one of the 'Windows magazines' 1994)? Is it worth the $179 (if I recall correctly)? Maarten van de Velde M.v.d.Velde@ele.tue.nl or elmemv@urc.tue.nl PS. Of course, I would like to have a Pentium 90 or 120 MHz and 12" SVGA, due out later this year, but this would most certainly dry up my bank account :-) I'll have to settle for the above. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 2 11:35:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08868; Wed, 2 Aug 95 11:35:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27246; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:27:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:27:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27221; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:27:30 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA1800; Wed, 02 Aug 95 11:28:43 -0400 Message-Id: <9508021528.AA1800@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 43D60EB36395E0888525620C0053BFCC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 11:28:39 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 2 Aug 95 11:18:14 Subject: RE: How to install Windows95 - A few suggestions..... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....Make sure to go into "Control Panel" under Windows 3.1 or WFWG 3.11, click the "enhanced" icon, and change your permanent swap file to a temporary swap file. Keeping your old permanent swap file could confuse Windows95's install program. Preparing your system before the install to make things as simple as possible will greatly enhance your chances of a success on the first try......" ~~~~~~~~~~ Since I'll be doing a dual boot with W95 and WFWG, is does it cause any further problems to go back and reset the WFWG swap file to permanent after W95 install? Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst and Tailgate Party Host Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 2 14:17:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19407; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:17:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08775; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 14:03:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 14:03:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mba.cba.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA08765; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 14:03:50 -0400 Received: (from sean@localhost) by mba.cba.uiuc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA07740 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 12:00:48 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199508021700.MAA07740@mba.cba.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: TP755CD and Windows NT? (fwd) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 12:00:47 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: schou@uiuc.edu In-Reply-To: from "Hanno Wagner" at Aug 2, 95 09:32:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > my father has an IBM Thinkpad 755CD and we isntalled Windows NT > yesterday. > The program itself works okay, but we don't have PCMCIA-Support. IUs What version of NT? I believe their newest release, 3.51, has PCMCIA support. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 2 14:55:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23251; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:55:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12244; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 14:45:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 14:45:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blob.best.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12187; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 14:45:36 -0400 From: Received: from shell1.best.com (shell1 [204.156.128.10]) by blob.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA29666; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:45:32 -0700 Received: from 204.156.137.12 (sandy.vip.best.com [204.156.137.12]) by shell1.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA14950; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:45:29 -0700 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:45:29 -0700 Message-Id: <199508021845.LAA14950@shell1.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: How to install Windows95 - A few suggestions..... To: Michael Verne/VENTANA , tp750 In-Reply-To: <9508021528.AA1800@LGATE.vmedia.com> X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 On 2 Aug 95, Michael Verne/VENTANA wrote: >Since I'll be doing a dual boot with W95 and WFWG, does it cause any >further problems to go back and reset the WFWG swap file to permanent >after W95 install? > >Michael J. Verne >michael_verne@vmedia.com >Systems Analyst and Tailgate Party Host >Ventana Communications Group, Inc. Hi Michael, Very good question and I forgot to address this in my previous posting. The simple answer is yes and no. ;-) You should be able to change back to a permanent swap file under WFWG as before and everything should work fine. On my system, this worked okay, but could cause potential problems on your system because both Windows95 and WFWG use the same name for their permanent swap file (not a bad idea as it turns out). The reason for possible conflict has to do with the fact that Windows95's permanent swap file is NOT a fixed-size configuration as it was under Windows 3.1 and WFWG. The new swap file arrangement allows the system to contract and expand the swap file as various applications open and close. The fix for this was recently discussed on page 272 in the August issue of Windows Magazine. I highly suggest you read this article because it basically reiterates and adds to my Windows95 install suggestions. To save you time, here is an excerpt from that article: "The fix is to open Windows 3.x and once again set up its permanent swap file as desired. When the swap file is again operational, open File Manager's View menu, select the By File Type option at the bottom of the menu and put a check in the Show Hidden/System Files box. Then find the size of the hidden 386SPART.PAR file, divide it by 1,024 and jot down the number for future reference. Don't cheat by peeking at the PermSwapSizeK=xxx line in SYSTEM.INI's [386Enh] section or the size shown in the 386 Enhanced applet's Virtual Memory dialog box. Oddly enough, the actual swap file size is apt to be off by a few megabytes, and the actual size is important. Once you get the number you need, open the SYSTEM.INI file in the Windows 95 directory (not the Windows 3.x version). Add or edit the following two lines in the [386Enh] section: MinPagingFileSize=xxxx PagingFile=c:\386SPART.PAR The first line is new to Windows 95 and complements its Max counterpart in Windows 3.x. That is, it defines the lower limit for the swap file. By setting xxxx to the number you jotted down, Windows 95 will restore the file to that size when it closes. The next time you open Windows 3.x, a swap file of the correct size will be there waiting for it, and all will be well. If both these lines already appear in your Windows 95 SYSTEM.INI, and the xxxx value is correct, then all's well and there shouldn't be any problem when you revert back to Windows 3.x." Again, an important issue Michael and thanks again for reminding me. I hope this helps. _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +-----.oOOo--()--oOOo.-------+ | InterNet : sandy@sandy.com | +-------------- Oooo.--------+ .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 2 16:56:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00442; Wed, 2 Aug 95 16:56:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22784; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 16:45:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 16:45:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jupiter.cast.msstate.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA22762; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 16:45:38 -0400 Received: from berea.cast.msstate.edu by jupiter.cast.msstate.edu (4.1/6.0s-FWP); id AA10241; Wed, 2 Aug 95 15:44:10 CDT Received: by berea.cast.msstate.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id PAA08892; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 15:44:02 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 15:44:01 +36000 From: Valentine Anantharaj To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: Valentine Anantharaj Subject: Re: Linux on TP755CE? - booting problems Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am having problems booting-up. I have tried 3 different sets of boot/root disks. I downloaded the latest from tsx-11 and tried the bare.gz and net.gz boot disks after gunzipping them and rawriting to floppies. The HD geometry seems to be recognized fine - it detects the 3 partions correctly. I get these errors: RAMDISK: 1474560 bytes starting at 0x.... VFS: insert ramdisk floppy RAMDISK: Loading 1440 blocks into RAMDISK .............................. ................... child XXX died with code ff00 The last line keeps repeating in aloop with XXX incremented each time. I had to reboot with the same problem. I also tried Dave Hind's (ftp://cb-iris.stanford.edu/pub/pcmcia) boot/root disks with PCMCIA support. But I had a different problem. The RAMDISK loaded fine. RAMDISK: loading 1440 blocks .... done. VFS: mounted root (minix filesystem) init: can't load library '/libc.so.4' No such library I am stumped at this point. I could use another sey of boot/root disks and give it a try. Any idea what I may be doing wrong? Regards, VGA Valentine G. Anantharaj --------------- val@cast.msstate.edu --- MSU - Center for Air-Sea Technology vga1@ra.msstate.edu | Bldg. 1103, Room 233 Tel.: (601)688-1157 | Stennis Space Center Fax: (601)688-7100 | MS 39529-5005 -------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 2 17:16:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05507; Wed, 2 Aug 95 17:16:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24363; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 17:05:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 17:05:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from jupiter.cast.msstate.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA24347; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 17:05:28 -0400 Received: from berea.cast.msstate.edu by jupiter.cast.msstate.edu (4.1/6.0s-FWP); id AA10389; Wed, 2 Aug 95 16:03:53 CDT Received: by berea.cast.msstate.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id QAA09218; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 16:03:51 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 16:03:50 +36000 From: Valentine Anantharaj To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Linux on TP755CE? - booting problems (ADDITIONAL INFO) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I forgot to mention that I was using the boot disk from the Slackware 2.2 distribution from tsx-11. VGA Valentine G. Anantharaj --------------- val@cast.msstate.edu --- MSU - Center for Air-Sea Technology vga1@ra.msstate.edu | Bldg. 1103, Room 233 Tel.: (601)688-1157 | Stennis Space Center Fax: (601)688-7100 | MS 39529-5005 -------------------------------------------------- ---------- original message message ---------- Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 15:44:01 +36000 From: Valentine Anantharaj To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Cc: Valentine Anantharaj Subject: Re: Linux on TP755CE? - booting problems I am having problems booting-up. I have tried 3 different sets of boot/root disks. I downloaded the latest from tsx-11 and tried the bare.gz and net.gz boot disks after gunzipping them and rawriting to floppies. The HD geometry seems to be recognized fine - it detects the 3 partions correctly. I get these errors: RAMDISK: 1474560 bytes starting at 0x.... VFS: insert ramdisk floppy RAMDISK: Loading 1440 blocks into RAMDISK .............................. ................... child XXX died with code ff00 The last line keeps repeating in aloop with XXX incremented each time. I had to reboot with the same problem. I also tried Dave Hind's (ftp://cb-iris.stanford.edu/pub/pcmcia) boot/root disks with PCMCIA support. But I had a different problem. The RAMDISK loaded fine. RAMDISK: loading 1440 blocks .... done. VFS: mounted root (minix filesystem) init: can't load library '/libc.so.4' No such library I am stumped at this point. I could use another sey of boot/root disks and give it a try. Any idea what I may be doing wrong? Regards, VGA Valentine G. Anantharaj --------------- val@cast.msstate.edu --- MSU - Center for Air-Sea Technology vga1@ra.msstate.edu | Bldg. 1103, Room 233 Tel.: (601)688-1157 | Stennis Space Center Fax: (601)688-7100 | MS 39529-5005 -------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 2 19:30:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15421; Wed, 2 Aug 95 19:30:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04026; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 19:22:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 19:22:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mthood.ohsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA04016; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 19:22:25 -0400 Received: by mthood.ohsu.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI.AUTO) for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU id QAA07575; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 16:19:02 -0700 From: "Ronald Sakaguchi" Message-Id: <9508021618.ZM7573@mthood.ohsu.edu> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 16:18:57 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Graphics card in Dock II? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1. The external CRT display from my TP 755CD on an IBM 17P monitor seems a little unstable with some shimmer. Have others found this also? 2. Is it possible to put a high res graphics card into the Dock II to drive the monitor? I presume that would give a more stable image. 3. I've tried to load WordPerfect 6.1 onto the 755CD, but the system hangs after installation of the setup disk. Any concurrences/suggestions? 4. I've also tried to run MacLink Plus PC Connect between the 755CD and a PowerMac 7100. They just won't talk to each other. The cable is good and I've been successful in connecting the 7100 to other PCs. The problem seems to be with the 755CD. 5. When I try to print out of the Dock II thru the parallel port, I get a printer error message. When the same doc is printed directly out of the 755CD's parallel port, everything is OK. Any suggestions? Thanks for your help. Sorry for all of the questions! rls -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ronald L. Sakaguchi, DDS, MS, PhD Dept of Biomaterials & Biomechanics Associate Professor Oregon Health Sciences University voice: (503) 494-8692 611 SW Campus Drive, SD-503 fax: (503) 494-8260 Portland, OR 97201-3097 rls@mthood.ohsu.edu ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 2 20:48:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21572; Wed, 2 Aug 95 20:48:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA09027; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 20:40:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 20:40:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uacsc1.albany.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA09004; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 20:40:23 -0400 From: Received: from albnyvms.BITNET by albnyvms.BITNET (PMDF V4.3-13 #5424) id <01HTM0053YUS8Y7JB2@albnyvms.BITNET>; Wed, 02 Aug 1995 20:38:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 1995 20:38:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: PCMCIA Printer Port Avail? To: fayne@Mercury.mcs.COM Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HTM0053ZT28Y7JB2@albnyvms.BITNET> X-Envelope-To: tp750@cs.utk.EDU X-Vms-To: IN%"fayne@Mercury.mcs.COM" X-Vms-Cc: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi! A catalog sent to me by Mobile Planet (1-800-675-2638 or http://www.mplanet.com) offers a PCMCIA EPP Parallel port for $189. It is manufactured by a company called Quantec. I have no idea if this card works or not. Good luck! Jorge From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 2 21:47:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26723; Wed, 2 Aug 95 21:47:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13027; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 21:38:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 21:38:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from baijuyi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13015; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 21:38:12 -0400 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by baijuyi (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id JAA26833 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 09:35:36 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199508030135.JAA26833@baijuyi> Subject: Re: TP755CD and Windows NT? (fwd) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 09:35:36 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text ``..Sean Chou writes, ` Subject: Re: TP755CD and Windows NT? (fwd) ` Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 12:00:47 -0500 (CDT) ` ` > my father has an IBM Thinkpad 755CD and we isntalled Windows NT ` > yesterday. ` > The program itself works okay, but we don't have PCMCIA-Support. IUs ` ` What version of NT? I believe their newest release, 3.51, has ` PCMCIA support. Adding to that, you can find the "Windows NT 3.51 Hardware Compatibility List: May 1995" at http://www.microsoft.com/NTServer/hcl/nts14200.htm All is there, including "PCMCIA Tested hardware". __________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 3 04:04:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23161; Thu, 3 Aug 95 04:04:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06814; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 03:48:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 03:48:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from st2.hq.eso.org by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06802; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 03:48:53 -0400 From: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 95 09:48:45 +0200 Message-Id: <9508030748.AA19847@st2.hq.eso.org> Received: by st2.hq.eso.org (4.1/ eso-4.2) id AA19847; Thu, 3 Aug 95 09:48:45 +0200 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP 755CV for presentations - experiences/comments? I would like to know of very practical experience with the Thinkpad 755CV used for presentations - - does body/keyboard part of machine cover a good deal of the OHP, leaving only about half of OHP screen area for the Thinkpad's monitor? - roughly what number of participants does the active matrix screen translate into (if the room is not totally darkened) - 100? - any practical problems with infrared remote control when giving presentations, and moving around - e.g. people getting in way? Thanks, Fionn Murtagh fmurtagh@eso.org From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 3 09:11:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10074; Thu, 3 Aug 95 09:11:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01103; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 08:58:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 08:58:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from beta.inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01053; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 08:58:25 -0400 Received: from beta.inc.net by beta.inc.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18608; Thu, 3 Aug 95 07:58:10 CDT Date: Thu, 3 Aug 95 07:58:09 CDT Message-Id: <9508031258.AA18608@beta.inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: josephw@beta.inc.net (Joseph C. Wilson) Subject: MWave & Remote Control Software Weare about to buy some 755CX's for our salesforce and need to be able (would prefer to be able to) use Close-Up for Windows 6.0. Norton-Lambert doesn't support the MWave DSP at this time and can't give me a date when/if it will support it. Does anyone have any suggestions. I am considering PCAnywhere for Windows or Reachout by Stac. Any suggestions or comments? Thanks for your help Joe Wilson Badger Valve & Fitting Milwaukee, WI From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 3 10:32:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13798; Thu, 3 Aug 95 10:32:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07860; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 10:20:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 10:20:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alpha1.albany.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07842; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 10:20:30 -0400 From: Received: from albnyvms.BITNET by albnyvms.BITNET (PMDF V4.3-13 #5424) id <01HTMSDW5P4G8Y7K0R@albnyvms.BITNET>; Thu, 03 Aug 1995 10:14:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 03 Aug 1995 10:14:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Panasonic PCMCIA KXL-D720 CD-ROM To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HTMSDW5R0I8Y7K0R@albnyvms.BITNET> X-Envelope-To: tp750@cs.utk.EDU X-Vms-To: IN%"tp750@cs.utk.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I know that the issue has been raised in the list before, but I cannot remember if the question that I am about to ask was answered then or not. I have a Panasonic KXL-D720 cd-rom drive which came with a PCMCIA card. I believe that this card is a regular SCSI card. The question is if any one in the list has been succesful in using this card with other SCSI peripherals, and how can that be accomplished. I am specially concerned about the cable and connector, which seems to be smaller than other SCSI cables and connectors I have seen. Also, do I need any extra software? I have a TP355. My goal is to buy an external SCSI hard drive that would work with the Panasonic SCSI card, so any suggestion on this regard will also be appreciated. Thanks! Jorge jbela@cnsvax.albany.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 3 10:34:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14075; Thu, 3 Aug 95 10:34:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07954; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 10:22:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 10:22:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.cs.utexas.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07938; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 10:22:52 -0400 Received: from darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (mschaef@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.143.204]) by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA14038; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 09:22:32 -0500 Received: by darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/Client-v1.4) id JAA24182; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 09:22:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 09:22:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Schaeffer To: "Joseph C. Wilson" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: MWave & Remote Control Software In-Reply-To: <9508031258.AA18608@beta.inc.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 3 Aug 1995, Joseph C. Wilson wrote: > Weare about to buy some 755CX's for our salesforce and need to be able > (would prefer to be able to) use Close-Up for Windows 6.0. Norton-Lambert > doesn't support the MWave DSP at this time and can't give me a date when/if > it will support it. Does anyone have any suggestions. I am considering > PCAnywhere for Windows or Reachout by Stac. Any suggestions or comments? If Close-Up is that important, you could switch to a different kind of modem. -Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 3 12:59:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23392; Thu, 3 Aug 95 12:59:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22311; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 12:47:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 12:47:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from houws001.shl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22299; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 12:47:01 -0400 Received: from houmg001.shl.com by houws001.shl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1.8) id AA10841; Thu, 3 Aug 95 11:46:00 CDT Received: by houmg001.shl.com with Microsoft Mail id <302118FE@houmg001.shl.com>; Thu, 03 Aug 95 11:44:14 PDT From: NELSON Tim To: tp750 Subject: RE: MWave & Remote Control Software Date: Thu, 03 Aug 95 09:42:00 PDT Message-Id: <302118FE@houmg001.shl.com> Encoding: 41 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 ---------- > From: owner-tp750 > To: tp750 > Subject: MWave & Remote Control Software > Date: Thursday, August 03, 1995 7:58AM > > Weare about to buy some 755CX's for our salesforce and need to be able > (would prefer to be able to) use Close-Up for Windows 6.0. Norton-Lambert > doesn't support the MWave DSP at this time and can't give me a date when/if > it will support it. Does anyone have any suggestions. I am considering > PCAnywhere for Windows or Reachout by Stac. Any suggestions or comments? I own Close-up, Carbon-Copy, and LapLink for Windows. All are excellent products. I prefer LapLink for Windows from Travelling Software. The remote control is excellent, it was easier for me to install, it worked the first time, plus I can use the "Big Yellow Cable" to syncronize my lap-top when I get back to the office. There is an upgrade option from LapLink V that does not require you to buy a new "Big Yellow Cable". Warning: I am using a Megahertx XJ-2144 not the m-Wave. ---------------------------------------------------- Timothy Nelson Chief Scientist, SHL Systemhouse Corp. internet: tnelson@shl.com, ---------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for your help > > Joe Wilson > Badger Valve & Fitting > Milwaukee, WI > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 3 17:35:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14299; Thu, 3 Aug 95 17:35:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16781; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 17:22:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 17:22:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from houws001.shl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16771; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 17:22:35 -0400 Received: from houmg001.shl.com by houws001.shl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1.8) id AA16179; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:25:16 CDT Received: by houmg001.shl.com with Microsoft Mail id <30215A68@houmg001.shl.com>; Thu, 03 Aug 95 16:23:20 PDT From: NELSON Tim To: tp750 Subject: RE: MWave & LapLink for Windows Date: Thu, 03 Aug 95 14:19:00 PDT Message-Id: <30215A68@houmg001.shl.com> Encoding: 15 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 RE: > Warning: I am using a Megahertx XJ-2144 not the m-Wave. > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Timothy Nelson > Chief Scientist, SHL Systemhouse Corp. > internet: tnelson@shl.com, > ---------------------------------------------------- > I have it on good authority (a co-worker here with a 755CD) that Laplink for Windows works just fine with the m-Wave modem support. Tim From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 3 18:22:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17741; Thu, 3 Aug 95 18:22:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20811; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 18:10:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 18:10:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from globalvision.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA20786; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 18:10:27 -0400 Received: by globalvision.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA12427; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 18:01:19 +0500 Message-Id: <9508032201.AA12427@ globalvision.net> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Jane Loyless Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 18:14:27 EST Reply-To: Jane Loyless Subject: NT and IBM PCMCIA T/R Card Does anyone know if NT drivers exist for IBM's PCMCIA Token Ring card? Jane From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 3 22:08:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06289; Thu, 3 Aug 95 22:08:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04871; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 21:55:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 21:55:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po7.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04851; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 21:55:48 -0400 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po7.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA11888 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 21:55:41 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 21:55:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix13.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 21:53:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix13.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 21:53:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Jan.26.1995.18.43.47.sun4c.411.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix13.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix13.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 21:53:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 21:53:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Sang H Kim To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: sigma data and DOS games what is the sales number for Sigma Data? and how much is their 810mb harddrive? would it work with my TP755Cs? also, anyone know any good DOS games that work well with TP 755Cs? work well as in, able to use the sound feature of TP and appear ok on a dual scan screen. like some adventure type games, rather than action type games. thanks in advance From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 4 13:25:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07346; Fri, 4 Aug 95 13:25:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12189; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 13:09:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 13:09:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12175; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 13:09:21 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id NAA01154; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 13:13:48 -0400 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 13:13:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Sang H Kim Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: sigma data and DOS games In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 3 Aug 1995, Sang H Kim wrote: > what is the sales number for Sigma Data? > and how much is their 810mb harddrive? > would it work with my TP755Cs? Contact information for Sigma Data can be found at http://shadow.net/~dwhite/thinkpad.html ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 4 13:49:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08957; Fri, 4 Aug 95 13:49:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14829; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 13:41:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 13:41:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom12.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA14817; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 13:41:31 -0400 Received: by netcom12.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA29491; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 13:39:36 -0400 From: gvaeth@netcom.com (Greg Vaeth at General Instrument) Message-Id: <199508041739.NAA29491@netcom12.netcom.com> Subject: MWave and Microsoft Mail To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad Mailing List) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 13:39:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, There is a group of us here who have 755CE's. Unfortunately, the support group here has had limited success getting Microsoft Mail Remote running through the MWave modem. Mine works fine ( I have upgraded system, MWave DOS, MWave Windoze, and applied the MWave mail script from the IBM FTP site.). We applied same to "Dave's" Tp, but the modem never goes off hook when the script runs, and actually in most cases, never flashes "lights" when the script is trying to send strings to the modem. If I put my hard drive in Dave's TP, everything works fine. Dave's HD in my TP has the same problem. We have even copied the entire msmail subdirectory from Windows to his HD, still to no avail. He is running Windows for Workgroups, I am running straight Windows. The support group's "fix" is to completely disable all MWave functions and plug in a PCMCIA card, so we are desperate. Please send any suggestions, fixes, magic, etc. Thanks. Regards, Greg -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gregory Vaeth snailnet: internet: gvaeth@netcom.com General Instrument gvaeth@gic.gi.com ------ __o __o Communications Division voicenet: (215) 773-8825 ----- _`\<,_ _`\<,_ 2200 Byberry Road faxnet: (215) 773-8500 ----- (*)/ (*) (*)/ (*) Hatboro, PA 19040 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ My opinions are my own, and do not represent those of my employer. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 4 14:01:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09742; Fri, 4 Aug 95 14:01:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16063; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 13:52:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 13:52:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16042; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 13:52:16 -0400 Received: from bnme (bnme.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.152.138]) by cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id NAA29434 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 13:51:44 -0400 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 13:51:44 -0400 Message-Id: <199508041751.NAA29434@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov> X-Sender: bnm@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: "Brooks N. McNeely" Subject: TP755C Hard Disk upgrade Can the IBM 1.2GB hard disk announced with the 755CX and CV models be used to upgrade a 755C? I know the Pentium processor upgrade won't work on the older models, but I'm not sure about the new hard disk option. Thanks for any enlightenment. Brooks From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 4 16:10:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20078; Fri, 4 Aug 95 16:10:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26267; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 15:58:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 15:58:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26257; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 15:58:39 -0400 Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19078; Fri, 4 Aug 95 15:58:36 -0400 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0um) id AA0060; Fri, 04 Aug 95 15:59:05 -0400 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 95 15:59:05 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Message-Id: <9508041959.AA0060@omerie.ai.mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Linux: XFree86 3.1.2 For those of you using Linux: XFree86 3.1.2 has a new SVGA X server that understands the WD90C24 chipset. If you have been experiencing trouble getting X to work properly with 3.1.1, you might want to upgrade. I installed the new server last night and it works well. It now supports a wider range of dot clocks, so I am finally able to get 800x600 working at a reasonable refresh rate. As an added bonus, there's a new program, xvidtune, to adjust the video parameters for your monitor. In addition to this, the new server supposedly fixes bugs that I've heard about but haven't seen: trashed video after exiting X, and good support for dual-scan models. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 4 18:49:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00457; Fri, 4 Aug 95 18:49:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09166; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 18:41:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 18:41:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from houws001.shl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09156; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 18:41:03 -0400 Received: from houmg001.shl.com by houws001.shl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1.8) id AA05869; Fri, 4 Aug 95 17:43:45 CDT Received: by houmg001.shl.com with Microsoft Mail id <3022BE59@houmg001.shl.com>; Fri, 04 Aug 95 17:42:01 PDT From: NELSON Tim To: tp750 Cc: "HAMERSLEY Dan (SHINET01)" Subject: MWave and Microsoft Mail Answer Date: Fri, 04 Aug 95 15:46:00 PDT Message-Id: <3022BE59@houmg001.shl.com> Encoding: 71 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 RE: limited success getting Microsoft Mail Remote running through the MWave modem... In MSMAIL.INI file (usually C:\WINDOWS\MSMAIL.INI) you need to add the Exclusive=0 line in the SFSRemote section, as in: [SFSRemote] Exclusive=0 This lets Windows do meaningful work even when remote dialing. Exclusive=0 will tell the MS-Mail remote to let the m-Wave application (a windows application remember!) run at the same time as MS-Mail remote. Interesting side effect of the Exclusive=0 option is you can use other Windows Applications while you are getting your e-mail. Just don't do anything that takes too long or MS-Mail remote will time out. You still need the MWave mail script, of course, if your other machines do not have it yet. ---------------------------------------------------- Timothy Nelson Chief Scientist, SHL Systemhouse Corp. internet: tnelson@shl.com, compuserv: 75017,2171 phone: (310) 809-4832, fax: (310) 860-9668 ---------------------------------------------------- ---------- > From: owner-tp750 > To: tp750 > Subject: MWave and Microsoft Mail > Date: Friday, August 04, 1995 1:39PM > > Hi, > > There is a group of us here who have 755CE's. Unfortunately, the support > group here has had limited success getting Microsoft Mail Remote running > through the MWave modem. Mine works fine ( I have upgraded system, MWave > DOS, MWave Windoze, and applied the MWave mail script from the IBM FTP > site.). We applied same to "Dave's" Tp, but the modem never goes off > hook when the script runs, and actually in most cases, never flashes > "lights" when the script is trying to send strings to the modem. If I > put my hard drive in Dave's TP, everything works fine. Dave's HD in my > TP has the same problem. We have even copied the entire msmail subdirectory > from Windows to his HD, still to no avail. He is running Windows for > Workgroups, I am running straight Windows. The support group's "fix" is > to completely disable all MWave functions and plug in a PCMCIA card, so > we are desperate. Please send any suggestions, fixes, magic, etc. Thanks. > > > Regards, Greg > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Gregory Vaeth snailnet: > internet: gvaeth@netcom.com General Instrument > gvaeth@gic.gi.com ------ __o __o Communications Division > voicenet: (215) 773-8825 ----- _`\<,_ _`\<,_ 2200 Byberry Road > faxnet: (215) 773-8500 ----- (*)/ (*) (*)/ (*) Hatboro, PA 19040 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > My opinions are my own, and do not represent those of my employer. > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 4 23:28:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20119; Fri, 4 Aug 95 23:28:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24476; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 23:21:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 23:21:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA24466; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 23:21:46 -0400 Received: (from postman@localhost) by andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA15386 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 23:21:42 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 23:21:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix16.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 23:19:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix16.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 23:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Jan.26.1995.18.43.47.sun4c.411.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix16.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix16.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 23:19:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 23:19:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Sang H Kim To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: dos games for tp755cs does anyone recommend any dos games that run well on my dual scan tp? and one that can use the sound? i like games like simcity type games. thanks in advance From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 7 13:08:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21278; Mon, 7 Aug 95 13:08:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02354; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 12:47:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 12:47:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hades.osc.epsilon.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02343; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 12:47:03 -0400 Received: by hades.osc.epsilon.com (4.1/3.1.-Epsilon Data Management) id AA08199; Mon, 7 Aug 95 12:49:28 EDT Received: from kosmos.quantum.epsilon.com(159.127.20.130) by hades.osc.epsilon.com via smap (V1.3) id sma008179; Mon Aug 7 12:48:49 1995 Received: by kosmos.epsilon.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09625; Mon, 7 Aug 95 12:46:03 EDT Date: Mon, 7 Aug 95 12:46:03 EDT From: ctc@epsilon.com (Chan T. Cao) Message-Id: <9508071646.AA09625@kosmos.epsilon.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: mwave v.34 upgrade for tp755CE I called ibm today and a sale rep. informed me that i'll soon be able to download a piece of software that would upgarde my 144000 mwave modem to 38.8k. the # is 919-517-0001. I just thought someone may want to know or cc From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 7 13:18:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22670; Mon, 7 Aug 95 13:18:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03998; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 13:10:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 13:10:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from clarknet.clark.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03983; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 13:09:58 -0400 Received: from [168.143.0.64] (brendan.clark.net) by clarknet.clark.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA16371; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 13:10:02 +0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-X-Header: Duh Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 13:11:47 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: brendan@clark.net (Brendan Hoar) Subject: PCMCIA modem & lost characters On a thinkpad 360Cs I have installed an "IBM High Speed PCMCIA Data/Fax Modem" model FC3635. What sort of serial interface does it have or mimic? I consistantly get lost characters at 19200 under Windows v3.1 using different comm programs. Anyway to activate some sort of buffering? An old DOS utility says that it does not have a 16550 compatible interface. Thanks, Brendan From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 7 13:26:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22839; Mon, 7 Aug 95 13:26:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04625; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 13:17:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 13:17:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04612; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 13:17:28 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA02055; Mon, 7 Aug 95 13:18:20 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Aug 95 13:18:20 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508071718.AA02055@nile.gnat.com> To: ctc@epsilon.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: mwave v.34 upgrade for tp755CE "i'll soon be able to download [28K Mwave software]" this is old news. this has been true for a long time, the question is when is soon? In the absence of any quantification of soon, I would say that you have learned nothing new :-( Also surely you meant 28.8 (your message said 38.8) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 7 15:29:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05519; Mon, 7 Aug 95 15:29:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12943; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 15:14:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 15:14:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from beta.inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12933; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 15:14:24 -0400 Received: from beta.inc.net by beta.inc.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12116; Mon, 7 Aug 95 14:14:20 CDT Date: Mon, 7 Aug 95 14:14:19 CDT Message-Id: <9508071914.AA12116@beta.inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: josephw@beta.inc.net (Joseph C. Wilson) Subject: TP Processor Upgrades I just used IBM's Fax Back service to get a list of options for the ThinkPads. Since I have seen a number of requests for processor upgrade info on various forums/groups, thought the following part numbers might be useful: Pentium upgrade for 755CE/CSE/CV Part #85G8609 Pentium upgrade for 755CD Part #29H8755 Pentium upgrade for 755CE/CSE/CV w/ EasyServ Installation Part #2420671 Pentium upgrade for 755CD w/ EasyServ Installation Part #2420672 Processor Upgrade Kit (50/25 to 75/25) 84G2154 Sorry no prices and info on them is not available on Fax Back. If you want to contact the fax service, call 800-426-4329. The list of options is document #1620. To get a complete list of IBM PC Company documents available via fax, punch in document #0001 (warning, 36 pages long, took almost 40 minutes to receive at high speed). This list has a lot of technical/problem solving documents as well as product info. Have fun. Joe Wilson Badger Valve & Fitting Milwaukee, WI From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 7 16:58:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11698; Mon, 7 Aug 95 16:58:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18102; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 16:44:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 16:44:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from armon.rain.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18091; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 16:44:30 -0400 Received: by armon.rain.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0sfZ1x-000DzTC; Mon, 7 Aug 95 13:44 PDT Message-Id: From: mehdi@armon.rain.com (Mehdi Attaran) Subject: Battery Charger... To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad Users List) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 13:44:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text I'm back at work this week, and can address the questions raised by my previous post. The part number for the IBM "Travel Quick Charger" I got for my 755CD batteries is "85G1522". We paid slightly less than US$200 for ours. This unit sits between the power supply and the ThinkPad, and will charge a battery (in addition to the one in the ThinkPad), and power the ThinkPad at the same time. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mehdi Attaran mehdi@armon.rain.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!armon!mehdi | | Data: (503) 642-3270 Voice: (503) 649-0719 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 7 18:47:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20182; Mon, 7 Aug 95 18:47:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24960; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 18:38:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 18:38:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA24950; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 18:38:21 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id PAA05374; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 15:38:14 -0700 Message-Id: <199508072238.PAA05374@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Mon, 07 Aug 95 15:40:44 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Convert TP OS/2 C drive to HPFS For you OS/2 Thinkpad users who have always wished you had an HPFS drive instead of a FAT drive, I've tested the product Partition Magic with my TP 755Cs. I used it to convert the drive from FAT to HPFS. The process was quick and uneventful, and now I've got an HPFS drive! Clearly there are no Thinkpad incompatibilities. E-mail me if you have questions. Roger J. Buffington AB6WR USC Law, Class of '97 Go Trojans! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from | | them (Native Americans). There were great numbers of people who | | needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it | | for themsleves." - John Wayne (actor) | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 7 20:41:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29136; Mon, 7 Aug 95 20:41:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00458; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 20:34:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 20:34:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hades.osc.epsilon.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA00448; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 20:34:21 -0400 Received: by hades.osc.epsilon.com (4.1/3.1.-Epsilon Data Management) id AA23156; Mon, 7 Aug 95 20:36:50 EDT Received: from kosmos.quantum.epsilon.com(159.127.20.130) by hades.osc.epsilon.com via smap (V1.3) id sma023154; Mon Aug 7 20:35:51 1995 Received: from titan.Quantum.epsilon.com by kosmos.epsilon.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11695; Mon, 7 Aug 95 20:33:05 EDT Date: Mon, 7 Aug 95 20:33:05 EDT From: ctc@epsilon.com (Chan T. Cao) Message-Id: <9508080033.AA11695@kosmos.epsilon.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: tp755CE and external keyboard i wonder if there's some type of adapter that would allows me to plug in in external kb. without using the dock... pls. respond. cc From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 7 21:32:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04326; Mon, 7 Aug 95 21:32:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02759; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 21:23:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 21:23:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02749; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 21:23:31 -0400 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by Eisner.DECUS.Org (PMDF V4.2-12 #4291) id <01HTT13TM2CW000YVC@Eisner.DECUS.Org>; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 21:23:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 07 Aug 1995 21:23:21 -0400 (EDT) From: billy@mix.com Subject: Re: tp755CE and external keyboard In-Reply-To: <9508080033.AA11695@kosmos.epsilon.com> Sender: YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org To: ctc@epsilon.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <807845001.147468.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Mail-System-Version: > i wonder if there's some type of adapter that would allows me to > plug in in external kb. without using the dock... You need a 54G0441 adapter cable for this, which also supports a mouse. My understanding is you can't just plug a keyboard directly in (but I'm not goning to risk zapping whatever to find out). Billy Y.. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 8 03:50:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00052; Tue, 8 Aug 95 03:50:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA19694; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 03:41:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 03:40:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from su1.in.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA19683; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 03:40:56 -0400 Received: from pm2-03.in.net by su1.in.net with SMTP (5.65/1.2-eef) id AA27433; Tue, 8 Aug 95 02:39:25 -0400 Message-Id: <9508080639.AA27433@su1.in.net> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 1995 07:45:17 GMT From: jollymon@in.net (JASON SETHI) Subject: PCMCIA modem and Win95 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 I have a copy of Win95 that I found on the net. It is the May test release. I did read the upgrade article and upgraded my BIOS before I installed Win95. My problem is that none of the communications software can see COM 2. (my modem). The "card manager" of Win95 sees the card and knows it by name. I tried to add the modem as new hardware, but it didn't work. Any ideas? The modem is a Zoom 28.8 Modem. Thanks Jason Sethi jollymon@in.net jollymon@expert.cc.purdue.edu sethi@en.ecn.purdue.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 8 04:11:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00330; Tue, 8 Aug 95 04:11:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA21537; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 04:00:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 04:00:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA21513; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 04:00:25 -0400 From: Received: from octave.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 10:00:16 +0200 Received: by octave.chorus.fr; Tue, 8 Aug 95 10:00:15 +0200 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 95 10:00:15 +0200 Message-Id: <9508080800.AA29898@octave.chorus.fr> To: ctc@epsilon.com Subject: Re: tp755CE and external keyboard Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > > i wonder if there's some type of adapter that would allows me to > plug in in external kb. without using the dock... > > pls. respond. > Yes, there is one. This is a Y-cable which allows you to plug in an external keyboard at mouse at the same time. It uses the external mouse port. I did not have one yet (but it has been ordered). The IBM par number is 54G0441 (please double check these reference because I am not so sure !). -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 8 04:59:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07314; Tue, 8 Aug 95 04:59:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA24765; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 04:53:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 04:53:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vmgate by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA24753; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 04:53:40 -0400 Message-Id: <199508080853.EAA24753@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by vmgate (5.0/25-eef) id AA19495; Tue, 8 Aug 95 09:49:39 BST Date: Tue, 8 Aug 95 09:49:39 BST From: Tony Jones To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Thinkpad Hello, I am posting this note on behalf of somebody else. If anybody has any experience of the issues below please let me know. Thanks >we're thinking of purchasing a thinkpad 755cdv which apparently has an mwave >chip in it. I was speaking to somebody who has experienced problems with the >mwave in the past. problems they had heard of include: > > - built in fax capability not supported by many packages yet > - mwave feature drivers were not supported under windows for workgroups > - mvwave install unrealiable under windows > - several problems with os/2 warp with the mwave chip > - IBM did not have plans to support windows nt for mwave > - os/2 warp had limited multi-media capability including no fax support > >i'm trying to work out if these are still problems and how significant they >are. > >any thoughts ? > Tony Jones Micro Focus, Information Services Speen Court, 7 Oxford Road, Newbury, Berkshire, RG14 1PB, ENGLAND Phone 01635 565411 Fax 01635 33966 Email, Internet => tbj@mfltd.co.uk IBMMAIL => GBHFF74F X.400 => S=TBJ ; O=MICRO-FOCUS ; ADMD=PIPEX ; C=GB From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 8 06:23:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11231; Tue, 8 Aug 95 06:23:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04540; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 06:18:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 06:18:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA04529; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 06:18:21 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA15427; Tue, 8 Aug 95 06:19:09 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 95 06:19:09 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508081019.AA15427@nile.gnat.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, jollymon@in.net Subject: Re: PCMCIA modem and Win95 can there really be legitimate copies of Win95 around on the net? Obviously the best suggestion here is to use the latest version, since the May test release is obsolete (and probably out of license by now) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 8 10:37:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27021; Tue, 8 Aug 95 10:37:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21475; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 10:29:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 10:29:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mik.uky.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21460; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 10:29:24 -0400 Received: from nx18.mik.uky.edu by mik.uky.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA25436; Tue, 8 Aug 95 10:29:22 -0400 Message-Id: <9508081429.AA25436@mik.uky.edu> Received: by nx18.mik.uky.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0X) id AA00340; Tue, 8 Aug 95 10:29:21 -0400 From: rdslon01@mik.uky.edu (rodney d slone) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 10:29:20 -0400 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Whereis TP360 mail group? I just ordered a 360cse. Is there an appropriate group for this? -- Rodney Daryl Slone | "Grounds are pretty common." - me Electrical Engineering Senior | Nail here [] for a new monitor. University of Kentucky / 94.3% of all statistics are 87% worthless. e-mail: rdslon01@mik.uky.edu | Xerox never comes up with anything original. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 8 10:37:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27058; Tue, 8 Aug 95 10:37:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21388; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 10:28:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 10:28:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21376; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 10:28:46 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id KAA27559; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 10:33:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 10:33:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: billy@mix.com Cc: ctc@epsilon.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: tp755CE and external keyboard In-Reply-To: <807845001.147468.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 7 Aug 1995 billy@mix.com wrote: > > i wonder if there's some type of adapter that would allows me to > > plug in in external kb. without using the dock... > > You need a 54G0441 adapter cable for this, which also supports a mouse. > My understanding is you can't just plug a keyboard directly in (but I'm > not goning to risk zapping whatever to find out). It doesn't do any harm, but it doesn't work either. You _can_ plug a mouse straight in, as the little graphic indicates. There are clone adaptors too, but they also cost about $45. Computer City sells them, if you're of a mood to buy it in person and have one near you. Dunno if there could be any real difference in quality tween the two. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 8 14:19:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16438; Tue, 8 Aug 95 14:19:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09269; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 14:01:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 14:01:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from thud.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09254; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 14:01:34 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu by thud.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id OAA05609; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 14:01:33 -0400 Message-Id: <199508081801.OAA05609@thud.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: rdslon01@mik.uky.edu (rodney d slone) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Whereis TP360 mail group? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 08 Aug 1995 10:29:20 EDT." <9508081429.AA25436@mik.uky.edu> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 1995 14:01:32 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU > I just ordered a 360cse. Is there an appropriate group for this? 360s are similar enough to 75Xs that it's appropriate to discuss them here. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 8 18:15:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06940; Tue, 8 Aug 95 18:15:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00767; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 18:01:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 18:01:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA00757; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 18:01:44 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA26482 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Tue, 8 Aug 1995 18:01:38 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA19678; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 18:00:29 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 18:00:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Modems in Israel & Goodbye Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Not exactly a thinkpad question but hopefully someone will know. Does anyone know whether US modems can be used in Israel with just a regular RJ-11 cable or do you need a converter for it? The other thing I should mention is that I will be leaving in a couple of weeks for a year in Israel where I will probably have infrequent access to email so I won't be posting the IBM thinkpad announcements to the list anymore. If anyone's interested the quickest way to obtain them is to check every tuesday at the following gopher URL (add it to your .gopherrc) # Type=1 Name=IBM U.S. Announcement Letters Path=aletters.70 Host=gopher.ibmlink.ibm.com Port=70 # Josh Hosseinof hosseino@yu1.yu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 8 20:51:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16374; Tue, 8 Aug 95 20:51:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10773; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 20:42:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 20:42:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from beta.inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10762; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 20:42:15 -0400 Received: from beta.inc.net by beta.inc.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21341; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:42:04 CDT Date: Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:42:03 CDT Message-Id: <9508090042.AA21341@beta.inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: josephw@beta.inc.net (Joseph C. Wilson) Subject: Re: tp755CE and external keyboard > >i wonder if there's some type of adapter that would allows me to >plug in in external kb. without using the dock... > >pls. respond. > I believe that there is a port on the 755CE for a(n) mouse/external keyboard, but you need a Y-Adapter to connect both a mouse and a keyboard at the same time. Sorry, don't have the part number, but I believe it is 54G0441 (atPC Direct at least). I ordered the ThinkPad external keyboard w/ integral trackpoint which solves the adapter problem. Hope this helps. Joe Wilson Badger Valve & Fitting Milwaukee, WI From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 8 20:55:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16392; Tue, 8 Aug 95 20:55:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11063; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 20:47:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 20:47:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from beta.inc.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA11053; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 20:47:50 -0400 Received: from beta.inc.net by beta.inc.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21351; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:47:45 CDT Date: Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:47:44 CDT Message-Id: <9508090047.AA21351@beta.inc.net> X-Sender: josephw@beta.inc.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: josephw@beta.inc.net (Joseph C. Wilson) Subject: Re: Thinkpad & MWave We just ordered 7 TP 755CX's with the MWave DSP and its compatibility/workability was/is a concern. I got a mixed bag of responses via the CompuServe ThinkPad forum. Some people love the MWave, lots of people hate it. Seems like if you are patient and aren't trying all sorts of oddstuff it works pretty well. I suggest looking at the CIS forum if you can. If you have a hard time doing this e-mail me and I will try to put together the responses I rec'd for you. Joe Wilson Badger Valve & Fitting Milwaukee, WI >Hello, >I am posting this note on behalf of somebody else. If anybody has >any experience of the issues below please let me know. >Thanks > > >>we're thinking of purchasing a thinkpad 755cdv which apparently has an mwave >>chip in it. I was speaking to somebody who has experienced problems with the >>mwave in the past. problems they had heard of include: >> >> - built in fax capability not supported by many packages yet >> - mwave feature drivers were not supported under windows for workgroups >> - mvwave install unrealiable under windows >> - several problems with os/2 warp with the mwave chip >> - IBM did not have plans to support windows nt for mwave >> - os/2 warp had limited multi-media capability including no fax support >> >>i'm trying to work out if these are still problems and how significant they >>are. >> >>any thoughts ? >> > > >Tony Jones >Micro Focus, Information Services >Speen Court, 7 Oxford Road, Newbury, Berkshire, RG14 1PB, ENGLAND >Phone 01635 565411 Fax 01635 33966 >Email, Internet => tbj@mfltd.co.uk > IBMMAIL => GBHFF74F > X.400 => S=TBJ ; O=MICRO-FOCUS ; ADMD=PIPEX ; C=GB > > > > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 8 21:17:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18323; Tue, 8 Aug 95 21:17:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12835; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 21:10:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 21:10:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from happy.qualcomm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA12803; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 21:10:40 -0400 Received: from gjacobs (gjacobs.qualcomm.com [129.46.122.39]) by happy.qualcomm.com (8.6.12/QC-BSD-2.5) with SMTP id SAA13964; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 18:09:59 -0700 Message-Id: <199508090109.SAA13964@happy.qualcomm.com> X-Sender: gjacobs@wizard X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 08 Aug 1995 18:10:01 -0700 To: Joshua Hosseinoff , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: "Gary E. Jacobs" Subject: Re: Modems in Israel & Goodbye You need a cable with a RJ-11 on one end and the Israel standard on the other. They are easy to find there. I just returned from three weeks there and had no problem using my mwave modem to retreive email from the U.S. At 06:00 PM 8/8/95 -0400, Joshua Hosseinoff wrote: >Not exactly a thinkpad question but hopefully someone will know. Does >anyone know whether US modems can be used in Israel with just a regular >RJ-11 cable or do you need a converter for it? >The other thing I should mention is that I will be leaving in a couple of >weeks for a year in Israel where I will probably have infrequent access >to email so I won't be posting the IBM thinkpad announcements to the list >anymore. If anyone's interested the quickest way to obtain them is to >check every tuesday at the following gopher URL (add it to your .gopherrc) ># >Type=1 >Name=IBM U.S. Announcement Letters >Path=aletters.70 >Host=gopher.ibmlink.ibm.com >Port=70 ># > >Josh Hosseinof >hosseino@yu1.yu.edu > > Gary Jacobs gjacobs@qualcomm.com (619)658-4069 voice (619)658-2120 fax From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 8 21:39:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19903; Tue, 8 Aug 95 21:39:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14427; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 21:33:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 21:33:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA14416; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 21:33:38 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA28491; Tue, 8 Aug 95 21:34:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 95 21:34:16 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508090134.AA28491@nile.gnat.com> To: josephw@beta.inc.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 64 meg memory cards? anyone know anything about 64 meg memory boards for the TP 755xx ? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 8 22:33:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23232; Tue, 8 Aug 95 22:33:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17599; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 22:23:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 22:23:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17589; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 22:23:32 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA07534 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Tue, 8 Aug 1995 22:23:28 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA22700; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 22:22:19 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 22:22:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: "Joseph C. Wilson" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: tp755CE and external keyboard In-Reply-To: <9508090042.AA21341@beta.inc.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It's a funny thing those keyboard because a friend of mine plugged one into his thinkpad 350 and he was able to use either a keyboard or a mouse without any special cable. It didnt work on my 750 so I guess they made that port differently on some of the models. Or it might have been a fluke. who knows. Josh Hosseinof hosseino@yu1.yu.edu On Tue, 8 Aug 1995, Joseph C. Wilson wrote: > > > >i wonder if there's some type of adapter that would allows me to > >plug in in external kb. without using the dock... > > > >pls. respond. > > > I believe that there is a port on the 755CE for a(n) mouse/external > keyboard, but you need a Y-Adapter to connect both a mouse and a keyboard > at the same time. Sorry, don't have the part number, but I believe it is > 54G0441 (atPC Direct at least). I ordered the ThinkPad external keyboard w/ > integral trackpoint which solves the adapter problem. > > Hope this helps. > > Joe Wilson > Badger Valve & Fitting > Milwaukee, WI > > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 8 22:52:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24422; Tue, 8 Aug 95 22:52:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18897; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 22:44:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 22:44:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Phoenix.ERC.MsState.Edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18887; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 22:44:01 -0400 Received: (dbridges@localhost); by Phoenix.ERC.MsState.Edu (8.6.8.1/7.0m-FWP-MsState); id VAA19782; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 21:43:57 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 21:43:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Douglas Bridges X-Sender: dbridges@phoenix To: Joshua Hosseinoff Cc: "Joseph C. Wilson" , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: tp755CE and external keyboard In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The Thinkpad 350 is the odd one out(or in) on this one. Any of the 355,360,700,720,750,755 models need the splitter to work. It changes the wiring so that it will work with either. __________________________________________________________________________ |Douglas Bridges | How to cook hawgs in Mississippi | |dbridges@ERC.msstate.edu | http://www.erc.msstate.edu/hawgs/hawgs.html | |__________________________|_____________________________________________| |"If you cooperate, we will reduce the charges from hit-and-run murder | | to littering." | |________________________________________________________________________| On Tue, 8 Aug 1995, Joshua Hosseinoff wrote: > It's a funny thing those keyboard because a friend of mine plugged one > into his thinkpad 350 and he was able to use either a keyboard or a mouse > without any special cable. It didnt work on my 750 so I guess they made > that port differently on some of the models. Or it might have been a fluke. > who knows. > > Josh Hosseinof > hosseino@yu1.yu.edu > > On Tue, 8 Aug 1995, Joseph C. Wilson wrote: > > > > > > >i wonder if there's some type of adapter that would allows me to > > >plug in in external kb. without using the dock... > > > > > >pls. respond. > > > > > I believe that there is a port on the 755CE for a(n) mouse/external > > keyboard, but you need a Y-Adapter to connect both a mouse and a keyboard > > at the same time. Sorry, don't have the part number, but I believe it is > > 54G0441 (atPC Direct at least). I ordered the ThinkPad external keyboard w/ > > integral trackpoint which solves the adapter problem. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Joe Wilson > > Badger Valve & Fitting > > Milwaukee, WI > > > > > > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 9 00:10:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29284; Wed, 9 Aug 95 00:10:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24368; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 00:02:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 00:01:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from acorn.grove.iup.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24356; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 00:01:55 -0400 Received: from grove.iup.edu by grove.iup.edu (PMDF V4.3-13 #2467) id <01HTUGE9AMTC8WX2BN@grove.iup.edu>; Tue, 08 Aug 1995 22:34:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 08 Aug 1995 22:22:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark_Strawcutter Subject: Re: Battery Charger... In-Reply-To: Your message dated "Mon, 07 Aug 1995 13:44:12 -0700 (PDT)" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HTUHUWVN4M8WX2BN@grove.iup.edu> Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania X-Envelope-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT >The part number for the IBM "Travel Quick Charger" I got for my 755CD >batteries is "85G1522". I tried to order a Travel Quick Charger along with my 755CD a couple of months ago. Ended up with IBM tech support who said the only quick charger available was for the 755C/Cs and it wouldn't work with Ce/Cse/CD. Was he lying, or is this a new model? On a related subject, am I correct that the 360 and 755C/Cs use the same battery while the 755Ce/Cse/CD use a different battery (Intelligent Battery Pack II)? The sales litterature (fax-back, www, etc) talk about two different batteries being available for the 755CD - a NiMH and an Intelligent NiMH. Is this true? What is the difference? ---------- Mark J Strawcutter Internet: mjstraw@grove.iup.edu Director, Systems and Communications BITNET: MJSTRAW@IUP Indiana University of Pennsylvania Voice: (412) 357-4007 Indiana, PA 15705 "you can't nail jello to a tree" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 9 02:13:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09402; Wed, 9 Aug 95 02:13:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00467; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 02:04:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 02:04:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from armon.rain.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA00453; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 02:04:46 -0400 Received: by armon.rain.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0sg4Fm-000DzMC; Tue, 8 Aug 95 23:04 PDT Message-Id: From: mehdi@armon.rain.com (Mehdi Attaran) Subject: Re: Battery Charger... To: MJSTRAW@grove.iup.edu (Mark_Strawcutter) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 23:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad Users List) In-Reply-To: <01HTUHUWVN4M8WX2BN@grove.iup.edu> from "Mark_Strawcutter" at Aug 8, 95 10:22:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > >The part number for the IBM "Travel Quick Charger" I got for my 755CD > >batteries is "85G1522". > > I tried to order a Travel Quick Charger along with my 755CD a couple of > months ago. Ended up with IBM tech support who said the only quick > charger available was for the 755C/Cs and it wouldn't work with Ce/Cse/CD. > Was he lying, or is this a new model? This is a new model. The box on mine was dated "June 22, 1995". > On a related subject, am I correct that the 360 and 755C/Cs use the same > battery while the 755Ce/Cse/CD use a different battery (Intelligent Battery > Pack II)? Yes. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mehdi Attaran mehdi@armon.rain.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!armon!mehdi | | Data: (503) 642-3270 Voice: (503) 649-0719 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 9 04:14:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13988; Wed, 9 Aug 95 04:14:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA09443; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 04:00:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 04:00:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA09414; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 04:00:33 -0400 From: Received: from octave.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 10:00:26 +0200 Received: by octave.chorus.fr; Wed, 9 Aug 95 10:00:26 +0200 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 95 10:00:26 +0200 Message-Id: <9508090800.AA22276@octave.chorus.fr> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Anyone tested the new XFree86-3.1.2 Hello, It seems like this new release of the X server now fully support the WD90C24 that is found on ThinkPad (at least mine). I tested it last week-end with my Linux system. Well, it seems to have fixed the problem of the screen crash on exit from X. We now get the correct screen back (no need for Fn-F7). However on double scan LCD display, one must still use Michael Steiner's tpdualscan program to hide 512Kb of video memory. The server comes with an enhanced documentation (Readme.WstDig) that explains how to setup the famous XF86Config for this card. I made some test with an external display and have been able to get to 1024x768x8 with no particular problem. But one must first goes back to DOS and run the PS2.exe program to set the High Performance CRT on otherwise high resolution mode won't be available. Did anyone make these tests ? Can anyone tell me the best ModeLine for 640x480 LCD mode ? Personnaly, I use the one given as an example in this README.WstDig file. -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 9 11:06:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06909; Wed, 9 Aug 95 11:06:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10479; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 10:51:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 10:51:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Phoenix.ERC.MsState.Edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10468; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 10:51:49 -0400 Received: from Zeus.ERC.MsState.Edu (dbridges@Zeus.ERC.MsState.Edu [192.208.145.66]); by Phoenix.ERC.MsState.Edu using ESMTP (8.6.8.1/7.0m-FWP-MsState); id JAA26986; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 09:51:44 -0500 Received: by Zeus.ERC.MsState.Edu (8.6.8.1/6.0c-FWP); id JAA27988; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 09:51:14 -0500 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 09:51:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Douglas Bridges X-Sender: dbridges@zeus To: Mark_Strawcutter Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Battery Charger... In-Reply-To: <01HTUHUWVN4M8WX2BN@grove.iup.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thinkpad 355,360, 750 -> Can use either dumb NiMH or the Intelligent Battery Pack I. It will not take advantage of the special processor on the Intellegent Battery Pack I. Thinkpad 755 Cs/C -> Can use either the dumb NiMH or the Intelligent Battery Pack I. It does take advantage of the Intelligent Battery Pack's microprocessor. Thinkpad 755 CE,CSE,CD -> Can only use the Intelligent Battery Pack II. Thinkpad 755 CV,CDV -> Can use either the Intelligent Battery Pack II, or the new Litium Ion battery. It comes standard with the Intelligent Battery Pack. Thinkpad 755 CX -> Can use either the Intelligent Pattery Pack II, or the Litium Ion battery. It comes standard with the Litium Ion Battery. The quick charger for the Intelligent Battery Pack II just came out about 2 months ago. The one for the dumb battery and for the Intellingent Battery Pack I has been out for a while. I don't know about the quick charger for the Litium Ion battery. I do know that it will not work in the "Travel Quick Charger" that is sold for the TP 755CE. __________________________________________________________________________ |Douglas Bridges | How to cook hawgs in Mississippi | |dbridges@ERC.msstate.edu | http://www.erc.msstate.edu/hawgs/hawgs.html | |__________________________|_____________________________________________| |"If you cooperate, we will reduce the charges from hit-and-run murder | | to littering." | |________________________________________________________________________| On Tue, 8 Aug 1995, Mark_Strawcutter wrote: > >The part number for the IBM "Travel Quick Charger" I got for my 755CD > >batteries is "85G1522". > > I tried to order a Travel Quick Charger along with my 755CD a couple of > months ago. Ended up with IBM tech support who said the only quick > charger available was for the 755C/Cs and it wouldn't work with Ce/Cse/CD. > Was he lying, or is this a new model? > > On a related subject, am I correct that the 360 and 755C/Cs use the same > battery while the 755Ce/Cse/CD use a different battery (Intelligent Battery > Pack II)? > > The sales litterature (fax-back, www, etc) talk about two different batteries > being available for the 755CD - a NiMH and an Intelligent NiMH. Is this true? > What is the difference? > > ---------- > Mark J Strawcutter Internet: mjstraw@grove.iup.edu > Director, Systems and Communications BITNET: MJSTRAW@IUP > Indiana University of Pennsylvania Voice: (412) 357-4007 > Indiana, PA 15705 "you can't nail jello to a tree" > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 9 11:39:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08619; Wed, 9 Aug 95 11:39:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13448; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 11:32:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 11:31:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hades.osc.epsilon.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13433; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 11:31:54 -0400 Received: by hades.osc.epsilon.com (4.1/3.1.-Epsilon Data Management) id AA06918; Wed, 9 Aug 95 11:34:20 EDT Received: from kosmos.quantum.epsilon.com(159.127.20.130) by hades.osc.epsilon.com via smap (V1.3) id sma006890; Wed Aug 9 11:33:49 1995 Received: from nova.Quantum.epsilon.com by kosmos.epsilon.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16058; Wed, 9 Aug 95 11:31:03 EDT Date: Wed, 9 Aug 95 11:31:03 EDT From: ctc@epsilon.com (Chan T. Cao) Message-Id: <9508091531.AA16058@kosmos.epsilon.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: os/2 warp connect and tp755CE Hello, I beg to bother you folks to send me a procedure for installing the mwave modem software for WC. I'm all set with Netware and TCP/IP direct network connection. I've been through about 50 different ways of installing the mwave stuffs without any success. Please tell me what diskettes to install and in what order. ex. -TP utility disk for os/2 -TP mwave for os/2 (1/3) -TP mwave for os/2 (2/3) ...etc If you don't know, the 755CE has a DSP 2780 chip and the modem is built in-called mwave modem. Thanks for your help. ps: IBM supports was no use. So far, I'm having no luck browsing the web for info. Chan From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 9 12:11:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10701; Wed, 9 Aug 95 12:11:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15586; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 11:55:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 11:55:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15571; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 11:55:32 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA08987; Wed, 9 Aug 95 11:56:18 -0400 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 95 11:56:18 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508091556.AA08987@nile.gnat.com> To: ctc@epsilon.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: os/2 warp connect and tp755CE try IBM support again, they have a four page FAX they can send you on this subject (at least for Warp, I assume Warp Connect is the same). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 9 14:22:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19824; Wed, 9 Aug 95 14:22:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25093; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 14:03:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 14:03:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mailgate.exnet.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25050; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 14:02:55 -0400 Received: from exnet.com (assam.exnet.com) by mailgate.exnet.com with SMTP id AA17634 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 9 Aug 1995 19:01:02 +0100 Received: from maildrop.exnet.com (ceylon.exnet.com) by exnet.com with SMTP id AA18597 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 9 Aug 1995 19:00:09 +0100 Received: from fonix.UUCP by maildrop.exnet.com (4.1/client-1.4DHD) id AA09812; Wed, 9 Aug 95 18:12:05 BST To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: How do I know.... From: patrick.whittick@fonix.org (PATRICK WHITTICK) Message-Id: <8AED2DF.0096009FD8.uuout@fonix.org> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 95 12:15:00 +0100 Organization: FONiX Info Systems * Berkshire UK * (+44) (1344) 306991 Reply-To: patrick.whittick@fonix.org (PATRICK WHITTICK) X-Mailreader: PCBoard Version 15.21 X-Mailer: PCBoard/UUOUT Version 1.10 Dear All, This is probably a *really* stupid question (I'm good at those !), but how do I tell what version of the TP utilities I'm using ? I've been on to the IBM BBS, and got a list of the files available there, but I'm not sure whether I've already got these versions installed on my 755CE or not.... :( Suggestions, please ?! Regards patrick.whittick@fonix.org - Patrick Whittick in Great Dunmow, England --- . CMPQwk 1.42 9237 . Shoot first and whatever you hit, call it the target. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 9 15:08:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22845; Wed, 9 Aug 95 15:08:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28918; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 14:56:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 14:56:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from acorn.grove.iup.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28896; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 14:56:05 -0400 Received: from grove.iup.edu by grove.iup.edu (PMDF V4.3-13 #2467) id <01HTVCGZWZF48WW0C0@grove.iup.edu>; Wed, 09 Aug 1995 14:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 09 Aug 1995 14:39:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark_Strawcutter Subject: Re: Battery Charger... In-Reply-To: Your message dated "Wed, 09 Aug 1995 09:51:14 -0500 (CDT)" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HTVFSXCSKK8WW0C0@grove.iup.edu> Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania X-Envelope-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT >Thinkpad 755 CE,CSE,CD -> Can only use the Intelligent Battery Pack II. The pre-sales info must be incorrect (indicates the dumb NiMH is an option). Imagine that - sales litterature with errors :-) >Thinkpad 755 CV,CDV -> Can use either the Intelligent Battery Pack II, or > the new Litium Ion battery. It comes standard with the Intelligent > Battery Pack. Too bad I can't use Lithium Ion with my 755CD. Oh, well. ---------- Mark J Strawcutter Internet: mjstraw@grove.iup.edu Director, Systems and Communications BITNET: MJSTRAW@IUP Indiana University of Pennsylvania Voice: (412) 357-4007 Indiana, PA 15705 "you can't nail jello to a tree" From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed Aug 9 15:11:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23378; Wed, 9 Aug 95 15:11:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26238; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 14:20:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 14:20:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA26217; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 14:20:36 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id OAA08735; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 14:20:32 -0400 Message-Id: <199508091820.OAA08735@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: Douglas Bridges Cc: Mark_Strawcutter , tp750@cs.utk.edu, moore@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Battery Charger... In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Aug 1995 09:51:14 CDT." Date: Wed, 09 Aug 1995 14:20:23 -0400 Sender: moore@cs.utk.edu > Thinkpad 355,360, 750 -> Can use either dumb NiMH or the Intelligent Battery > Pack I. It will not take advantage of the special processor on > the Intellegent Battery Pack I. I thought the 750 *did* take advantage of the intelligent battery pack. The battery pack that came with the 750 was supposed to be "smart", by contrast with the one that came on the 360. You could interchange the battery packs, but if you used the dumb battery pack on the 750 then some of the features wouldn't work. The batteries for my 750 don't have "Intelligent" written anywhere on them, but they're definitely fancier than those that come with the 360. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 9 21:11:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21222; Wed, 9 Aug 95 21:11:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22942; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 20:53:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 20:53:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22932; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 20:53:36 -0400 Received: from [128.125.223.84] (comserv-e-21.usc.edu [128.125.223.84]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id RAA03845 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 17:53:30 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 17:59:44 -0700 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: MACLAN Connect Would the person who E-mailed me about a week ago regarding the use of some software called "Personal MacLan Connect" to connect PC's with Macintoshes via Ethernet please contact me? I lost your E-mail and don't have your address--but I'm pretty sure you contacted me via this ThinkPad List. Just a quick reference: I bought it, and it seems to work splendidly (even from my 'pad) for seeing stuff on the Mac, but I can't seem to figure out how to get the Mac to "see" PC Drives. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you! ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 9 23:06:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27840; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:06:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA00512; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 22:56:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 22:56:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hades.osc.epsilon.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA00500; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 22:56:21 -0400 Received: by hades.osc.epsilon.com (4.1/3.1.-Epsilon Data Management) id AA26923; Wed, 9 Aug 95 22:58:51 EDT Received: from kosmos.quantum.epsilon.com(159.127.20.130) by hades.osc.epsilon.com via smap (V1.3) id sma026919; Wed Aug 9 22:58:24 1995 Received: from europa.Quantum.epsilon.com by kosmos.epsilon.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00905; Wed, 9 Aug 95 22:55:37 EDT Received: by europa.Quantum.epsilon.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16523; Wed, 9 Aug 95 22:55:36 EDT Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 22:55:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chan T. Cao" To: Randy Whittle Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: MACLAN Connect In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I assume you first want the PCs to see the Macs. Now you want the Macs to see the PCs. Hrm...you want it all! :) Anyways, my experience has been with a product that is perhaps more popular than the one you mentioned. It's Farallon's PhoneNet PC. You plugs the adapter into the parallel port and load the drivers so it would translate appletalk to (IPX?) packets. If one reverses the situation, the Mac would has to translate whatever protocol that the PC was using. Never heard of any such things. I think it's difficult to do... Chan On Wed, 9 Aug 1995, Randy Whittle wrote: > Would the person who E-mailed me about a week ago regarding the use > of some software called "Personal MacLan Connect" to connect PC's with > Macintoshes via Ethernet please contact me? > > I lost your E-mail and don't have your address--but I'm pretty sure > you contacted me via this ThinkPad List. > > Just a quick reference: I bought it, and it seems to work > splendidly (even from my 'pad) for seeing stuff on the Mac, but I can't > seem to figure out how to get the Mac to "see" PC Drives. Any help would > be appreciated. > > Thank you! > > ----- ____________________________ > Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | > USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | > "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| > Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- > -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner > > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 9 23:16:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28764; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:16:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01282; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 23:07:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 23:07:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA01272; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 23:06:58 -0400 Received: from [128.125.223.65] (comserv-e-2.usc.edu [128.125.223.65]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id UAA10198; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 20:06:52 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 20:13:05 -0700 To: "Chan T. Cao" From: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: MACLAN Connect Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU At 10:55 PM 8/9/95, Chan T. Cao wrote: >I assume you first want the PCs to see the Macs. Now you >want the Macs to see the PCs. Hrm...you want it all! :) I want it all...I WANT IT ALLL!!!!!! >Anyways, my experience has been with a product that is >perhaps more popular than the one you mentioned. It's >Farallon's PhoneNet PC. You plugs the adapter into >the parallel port and load the drivers so it would translate >appletalk to (IPX?) packets. > >If one reverses the situation, the Mac would has to >translate whatever protocol that the PC was using. >Never heard of any such things. I think it's >difficult to do... > >Chan Perhaps, but Miramar Systems (publisher of MacLan Connect) has done it! ;) In a follow-up to my first message, I've figured out how to do what I wanted--had to go to the Mac "Chooser" and select "Appleshare"--then I could select whatever "server" I wanted (which was my 'Pad). MacLan is software for the Windows PC that gives it Appletalk capabilty (which, of course, every Mac already has built-in). Hence, assuming you have the Ethernet hardware setup, it can be run as an Appleshare client/server on a network with Macintoshes that have Appletalk built-in to them, allowing it to "see" files on a Mac and print to Mac printers as well as for the Mac to "see" files on a PC and print to PC (PostScript) Printers. Its great stuff for me, since I have a foot in both worlds and now my PC and Mac can *truly* communicate for the first time! I'm quite enthused, the more I play with it here. It acts as a simple Peer network for a number of PC's and/or Mac's all together. In my case, I'll hook up 1 Mac and 2 PC's (one of which is my ThinkPad), but generally just the 1 desktop PC and the Mac will be hooked up on a regular basis. I really like it--and there was a gentleman here on the TP list that recommended it to me. Trouble is, I can't remember who and I lost the message! Thank you, whoever you are! ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 10 04:36:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18522; Thu, 10 Aug 95 04:36:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20892; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 04:26:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 04:26:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20882; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 04:26:21 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id EAA01958; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 04:26:02 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 04:25:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP Hard drives Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I ran across this while browsing PC Catalog. I have no idea if this is accurate, or if they have stuff in stock, etc. etc. It'd be nice if someone could find out if they also sell TP drive cases. I'd do it myself but I need to get some sleep. :) _______________________________________________________________ IBM Thinkpad 1380 13 2.5 Micro Sense $950 Call (800)544-4252 to Order from MICRO SENSE! SPECS: Plug & Play drives for the Thinkpad 355, 360, 750, and 755 series. (540MB/$599; 810MB/$819) DEALER: Micro Sense Inc., 370 Andrew Ave., Leucadia, CA 92024. M-F 8:30-5 PST. FAX: (619)753-6133. TO ORDER CALL: (800)544-4252 or (619)632-8621. COMPANY HIGHLIGHTS: Micro Sense, Inc. specializes in parallel external devices including hard, floppy and tape backup drives. We also provide SCSI and IDE caching controllers, CD-ROMs, CompatiCard floppy controllers, 2.88MB disk drives, all media floppies, hard drives for PS/2 & PS/1, as well as laptop memory and modems. PAYMENTS: MC/VISA (never a surcharge!), C.O.D. (add $4.50, cash only), or government/university/Fortune 1000 P.O.. Prices subject to change without notice. RETURNS: All products are backed by full manufacturer's warranty. All returns require RMA# and must be shipped prepaid within 15 days of authorization. Non-defective items are subject to 15% restocking fee. SHIPPING/HANDLING: Quick and cheap delivery! Most orders are shipped within 48 hours. We ship UPS, Fed Ex and U.S. Mail. Ground, 2nd-day and next-day available. Saturday delivery for most areas. International orders accepted, also to APO and FPO addresses. CUSTOMER SUPPORT: Micro Sense has a long term commitment to quality, support and service. We are a strong and secure company! We focus on customer satisfaction, and do what it takes to make you happy. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 10 09:44:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09651; Thu, 10 Aug 95 09:44:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14357; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 09:33:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 09:33:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kitten.mcs.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA14341; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 09:32:58 -0400 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA23127 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 08:32:54 -0500 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Thu, 10 Aug 95 08:32 CDT Received: by mars.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Thu, 10 Aug 95 08:32 CDT Sender: fayne@mcs.com (Jeff Fayne) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 08:32:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeff Fayne Sender: Jeff Fayne Reply-To: Jeff Fayne Subject: HD > 528M in a 755Cs To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sorry if this was mentioned before, but: I'm about to upgrade my 340M HD to an 810M drive. I've settled on a Toshiba MK1926FCV (12.7mm, 13ms) drive (any other suggestions?), upgraded my BIOS (6/30/95 rev) and actually did a trial upgrade with a 540M Tosh (more on that later) using the original TP drive case method (it worked :) ). My question: What should I do regarding 32-bit disk access, specifically the wdctrl driver? Whenever I've done a > 528M drive upgrade, I've had to use Disk Manager which installed it's own 32-bit driver for Windows. Seeing how the Bios already supports >528M drives, where can I get an upgraded wdctrl? About the 540 Tosh trial: A co-worker needed an upgrade to his Compaq, so I ordered him a MK1924FCV. Before I installed it in his computer, I tried it in my tpad :) Setup had no trouble finding it and was able to fdisk/format it for the full 541M. Performance : IBM Tosh Throughput 978kb/s 1,212kb/s Avg Seek 17.11ms 12.98ms Trk-Trk 8ms 5.88ms measured with Checkit-Pro. Thanks to all on the list who submitted HD upgrade ideas/suggestions. ___________________________________________________________________________ | Jeffrey Fayne fayne@mcs.com ____ _ | Systems Engineer | __\_\_o____/_| | INX International Ink Co. <[___\_\_-----< | (708)-364-7774 | o' | (708)-364-7825 FAX ___________________________________________________________________________ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 10 13:46:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28259; Thu, 10 Aug 95 13:46:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04505; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 13:27:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 13:27:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from houws001.shl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04492; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 13:27:48 -0400 Received: from houmg001.shl.com by houws001.shl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1.8) id AA05524; Thu, 10 Aug 95 12:30:29 CDT Received: by houmg001.shl.com with Microsoft Mail id <302A5DF8@houmg001.shl.com>; Thu, 10 Aug 95 12:28:56 PDT From: NELSON Tim To: tp750 Subject: RE: HD > 528M in a 755Cs Date: Thu, 10 Aug 95 10:21:00 PDT Message-Id: <302A5DF8@houmg001.shl.com> Encoding: 66 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 RE: > What should I do regarding 32-bit disk access, specifically the > wdctrl driver? > From: Jeffrey Fayne fayne@mcs.com I quote from the IBM announcement letter I got from Compuserve: "IBM ThinkPad Windows(*) 32-Bit Disk Access Device Driver Ver 1.00 Dec. 27, 1994 ======================================================= What This Diskette Does ----------------------- This diskette installs the Thinkpad Windows 32-Bit Disk Access Device Driver onto your hard disk. Windows 32-Bit Disk Access improves system performance when transferring data to and from the internal hard disk. This driver allows you to use 32-Bit Disk Access on ThinkPad 355/360/750/755 systems with hard disks larger than 528MB." **** You can get it yourself from (TPDISK32.EXE) the IBM BBS, 919 517-0001 Compuserve GO THINKPAD, or FTP://ftp.pcco.ibm.com /pub/mobiles **** ALSO, if you are planning to upgrade to WIN-95, I highly recommend getting the latest BIOS upgrade, V1.20. "IBM ThinkPad 355/360/750/755C/755Cs System Program Service Diskette Ver 1.20 July 11, 1995 ======================================== What This Diskette Does ----------------------- This System Program Service diskette updates the system program stored in ROM of the following ThinkPad models: - ThinkPad 355, 355Cs, 355C. - ThinkPad 360, 360C, 360P, 360PE, 360Cs, 360CE and 360CSE. - ThinkPad 750, 750C, 750P, 750Cs and 750Ce - ThinkPad 755C and 755Cs If you are experiencing one of the problems listed in the following Summary of Problem Fixes section, please follow the instructions given in the Updating System Programs section below to update the system program of your ThinkPad 355/360/750/755 family computer. Summary of new function support ------------------------------- Release Version --------------- Version 1.20 Add support for WIN95 plug and play function" The file name is SYTPS120.EXE ---------------------------------------------------- Timothy Nelson Chief Scientist, SHL Systemhouse Corp. internet: tnelson@shl.com ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 11 12:48:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25640; Fri, 11 Aug 95 12:48:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14044; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 12:28:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 12:28:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dill.lcs.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14031; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 12:28:04 -0400 From: Received: by dill.lcs.mit.edu; id AA05525; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 12:27:57 -0400 Message-Id: <9508111627.AA05525@dill.lcs.mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: dmoore@dill.lcs.mit.edu Subject: HELP WITH MWAVE MODEM FUNCTIONS - 755CE Date: Fri, 11 Aug 95 12:27:56 -0400 X-Mts: smtp Can someone help me before I throw the 755CE out the window? For about a month now I have been trying to get the internal fax/modem to work. I'm running OS/2 Warp and the MWO110-1.EXE and -2.EXE drivers which I downloaded from the Thinkpad FTP site. I also downloaded and installed MWWRPAUD.EXE from the site. I have power to the disk drive compartment serial port, the standard serial port, etc., and I've tried piles of combinations of enabling and disabling devices and telephony functions from the Windows "Thinkpad Setup" group (because I can't figure out how to do this from OS/2). What do I do to make this work? Help! Please email directly, since I don't read the group (perhaps I should :-) dmoore@dill.lcs.mit.edu Thank you! -Drew From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 11 15:33:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09574; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:33:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26451; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:17:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:17:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.vassar.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA26441; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:17:25 -0400 Received: from cssun3 (cssun3.vassar.edu) by cs.vassar.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03805; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:17:07 EDT From: manning@cs.vassar.edu (Joseph Manning) Received: by cssun3 (4.1) id AA28100; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:17:26 EDT Date: Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:17:26 EDT Message-Id: <9508111917.AA28100@cssun3> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP-755CX screen dims using battery Cc: manning@cs.vassar.edu Hello, TP-755CX users! The screen on my new SVGA TP-755CX dims considerably whenever I remove the AC power cord and it switches to battery power. This happens even when the Li-ion battery shows a 100% charge, and the computer is configured for "High Performance" under battery power. My questions: - is this normal, or do I perhaps have a weak battery? - if it is normal, then is there any way to circumvent this dimming, even if it shortens battery life? Thanks! -- Joseph Joseph Manning / Computer Science / Vassar College / manning@cs.vassar.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 11 15:40:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09730; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:40:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27706; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:32:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:32:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dns.netvision.net.il by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27687; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:32:00 -0400 From: Received: from TelAviv.netvision.net.il (ts34p14.NetVision.net.il [194.90.3.174]) by dns.netvision.net.il (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA03752 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 22:32:45 +0300 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 95 22:26:10 PDT Subject: TP755 and Kingstone To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Is anyone using Tp755c and kingstone modems out there , I could not use the enabler on the 755 even due it works fine on the 360 any comments or Ideas will be appricated TIA Ariel From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 11 16:06:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12812; Fri, 11 Aug 95 16:06:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29619; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:53:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:53:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29605; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:53:34 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA00437; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:53:24 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:53:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: Joseph Manning Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP-755CX screen dims using battery In-Reply-To: <9508111917.AA28100@cssun3> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 11 Aug 1995, Joseph Manning wrote: > The screen on my new SVGA TP-755CX dims considerably > whenever I remove the AC power cord and it switches to > battery power. This happens even when the Li-ion battery > shows a 100% charge, and the computer is configured for > "High Performance" under battery power. This is a "feature" whose intent was probably to improve performance on battery rundown tests. It's been there since at least the TP750. Assuming the 755CX does it the same way, use the DOS PS2 utility: PS2 BR N PS2 BR E I think N changes it to "normal" (full range of brightness) while E changes it to dim ("economy"?). ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 11 16:07:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12827; Fri, 11 Aug 95 16:07:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00108; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:57:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:57:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29998; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:57:20 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id QAA22499; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 16:01:57 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 16:01:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Joseph Manning Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP-755CX screen dims using battery In-Reply-To: <9508111917.AA28100@cssun3> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 11 Aug 1995, Joseph Manning wrote: > The screen on my new SVGA TP-755CX dims considerably > whenever I remove the AC power cord and it switches to > battery power. This happens even when the Li-ion battery > shows a 100% charge, and the computer is configured for > "High Performance" under battery power. > > My questions: > > - is this normal, or do I perhaps have a weak battery? Yes, no. > - if it is normal, then is there any way to circumvent > this dimming, even if it shortens battery life? Yes. PS2 BR N will make it normal (ignores if AC is used or not) and PS2 BR E for economy mode. The FAQ says that people have noted a difference of 15 to 30 minutes as a result of disabling economy mode. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 11 16:08:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12837; Fri, 11 Aug 95 16:08:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00194; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:58:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:58:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00173; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:58:32 -0400 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11770; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:58:16 -0400 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0um) id AA0061; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:58:38 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:58:38 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Message-Id: <9508111958.AA0061@omerie.ai.mit.edu> To: manning@cs.vassar.edu Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:17:26 EDT from manning@cs.vassar.edu (Joseph Manning) Subject: TP-755CX screen dims using battery From: manning@cs.vassar.edu (Joseph Manning) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:17:26 EDT The screen on my new SVGA TP-755CX dims considerably whenever I remove the AC power cord and it switches to battery power. This happens even when the Li-ion battery shows a 100% charge, and the computer is configured for "High Performance" under battery power. My questions: - is this normal, or do I perhaps have a weak battery? - if it is normal, then is there any way to circumvent this dimming, even if it shortens battery life? I don't know specifically about the 755CX, but on older models there is a power-saving mode called "economy brightness mode" that is the default. This mode can be changed using the PS2 program under DOS: * PS2 BR N puts the machine in "normal" mode, in which the screen is the same brightness whether using AC power or battery power. * PS2 BR E puts the machine in "economy" mode, in which the screen is dimmer when using battery power. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 11 16:17:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13428; Fri, 11 Aug 95 16:17:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00894; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 16:06:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 16:06:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from pobox.oit.umass.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00884; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 16:06:32 -0400 Received: from twain.oit.umass.edu (twain.oit.umass.edu) by pobox.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.0-4 #6523) id <01HTYB78HAI800586R@pobox.oit.umass.edu>; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 16:06:23 -0400 Received: from localhost (harmatz@localhost) by twain.oit.umass.edu (8.6.4/8.6.9) id QAA21861; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 16:06:23 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 16:06:22 -0400 (EDT) From: MORTON G HARMATZ Subject: Re: TP-755CX screen dims using battery In-Reply-To: <9508111917.AA28100@cssun3> To: manning@cs.vassar.edu (Joseph Manning) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, manning@cs.vassar.edu Message-Id: <199508112006.QAA21861@twain.oit.umass.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It isn't a bug it's a feature!! If your CX is the same as my 755C the screen dimming is meant to help with power management. You can chnge to a bright screen under battery power by typing "ps2 br n" at the DOS prompt. If you want the battery saving dim feature enter "ps2 br e" ( the n and e are for normal and economy). By the way since br e Is the default anytime you reset the machine back to factory defaults you will be back to the brightness economy > The screen on my new SVGA TP-755CX dims considerably > whenever I remove the AC power cord and it switches to > battery power. This happens even when the Li-ion battery > shows a 100% charge, and the computer is configured for > "High Performance" under battery power. > > My questions: > > - is this normal, or do I perhaps have a weak battery? > > - if it is normal, then is there any way to circumvent > this dimming, even if it shortens battery life? > > Thanks! -- Joseph > > Joseph Manning / Computer Science / Vassar College / manning@cs.vassar.edu > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 11 16:48:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15289; Fri, 11 Aug 95 16:48:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03926; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 16:36:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 16:36:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from polaris.cv.nrao.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03915; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 16:36:20 -0400 Received: by polaris.cv.nrao.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA37560; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 16:36:17 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 16:36:17 -0400 From: awootten@polaris.cv.nrao.edu (Al Wootten) Message-Id: <9508112036.AA37560@polaris.cv.nrao.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP355CS, C, and Exel I see ads in the Science Times from a company named Exel offering TP355Cs 170MB HD factory remanufactured units for $1295, or the 355C active matrix 250MB HD for $1495. These seem like a great deal to me. I wanted to know if there were opinions from this list on either unit, or on the company. Thanks in advance for any advice! Clear skies, Al +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Alwyn Wootten (http://www.cv.nrao.edu/~awootten/) | | Astronomer, National Radio Astronomy Observatory | | 520 Edgemont Road, Charlottesville, VA 22903-2475, USA| | (804)-296-0329 voice Let's build The Millimeter Array| | (804)-296-0278 FAX {> {> {> {> | +------------------------------^-----^-----^-----^------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 11 16:52:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15468; Fri, 11 Aug 95 16:52:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04336; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 16:42:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 16:42:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.vassar.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04314; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 16:42:07 -0400 Received: from cssun3 (cssun3.vassar.edu) by cs.vassar.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03930; Fri, 11 Aug 95 16:41:46 EDT From: manning@cs.vassar.edu (Joseph Manning) Received: by cssun3 (4.1) id AA28114; Fri, 11 Aug 95 16:42:05 EDT Date: Fri, 11 Aug 95 16:42:05 EDT Message-Id: <9508112042.AA28114@cssun3> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP-755CX screen dims using battery Cc: manning@cs.vassar.edu Many thanks to: "John H. Kim" Don Whiteside Chris Hanson MORTON G HARMATZ for your very prompt and helpful responses regarding the screen dimming when using the TP-755CX on battery power. Yes indeed, PS2 BR N restores full brightness. And wow, what a difference it makes, even if it burns lotsa battery power. "My candle burns at both ends, It will not last the night, (da-dum di-dum da-dum di-dum) -- forgot this line! It gives a glorious light!" Thanks again! -- Joseph PS: Yo! IBM! How come this setting cannot be altered from within the "Systems Programs" --> "ThinkPad Features" --> "Power" window ??? Joseph Manning / Computer Science / Vassar College / manning@cs.vassar.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 11 17:10:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16531; Fri, 11 Aug 95 17:10:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05806; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 17:00:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 17:00:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA05774; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 17:00:00 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA00193; Fri, 11 Aug 95 17:00:40 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 95 17:00:40 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508112100.AA00193@nile.gnat.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, manning@cs.vassar.edu Subject: Re: TP-755CX screen dims using battery " The screen on my new SVGA TP-755CX dims considerably whenever I remove the AC power cord and it switches to battery power. This happens even when the Li-ion battery shows a 100% charge, and the computer is configured for "High Performance" under battery power." this is normal, it is done to conserve battery power. The undocumented command ps2 br n (n = normal) sets the brighteness to normal (or at least did on previous thinkpads), but eats up lots of battery power. TH command ps2 br e restores the normal (dimmed) state. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 11 17:23:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17885; Fri, 11 Aug 95 17:23:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06777; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 17:11:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 17:11:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06767; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 17:11:49 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA00312; Fri, 11 Aug 95 17:12:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 95 17:12:41 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508112112.AA00312@nile.gnat.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, manning@cs.vassar.edu Subject: Re: TP-755CX screen dims using battery Joseph asks (with regard to screen brightness on battery power): PS: Yo! IBM! How come this setting cannot be altered from within the "Systems Programs" --> "ThinkPad Features" --> "Power" window ??? actually, according to IBM, this cannot be altered at all. The comamnd PS2 BR N is quite deliberately undocumnted. Best guess is that IBM does not want magazines to benchmark battery life with "full power options" including the bright screen. That makes perfectly good sense, battery life is something that any idiot reviewer can measure and report on, whereas it is much less likely that you get criticized for a dimmer screen on battery power. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 11 18:30:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21840; Fri, 11 Aug 95 18:30:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11258; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 18:14:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 18:14:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11236; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 18:14:06 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA00717; Fri, 11 Aug 95 18:14:52 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 95 18:14:52 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508112214.AA00717@nile.gnat.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP + Ethernet/PCMCIA + TCP/IP + OS/2 I am running Warp on a 755CX. I need to buy the software and hardware (PCMCIA card) to get a clean and easy interface to a Unix network on ethernet (Sun and SGI machines). Does anyone know of a set of stuff that will work with minimum hassle? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 11 22:43:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09869; Fri, 11 Aug 95 22:43:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25665; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 22:35:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 22:35:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25640; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 22:35:06 -0400 Received: from [128.125.224.163] (comserv-j-19.usc.edu [128.125.224.163]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id TAA00335; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 19:34:58 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 19:41:14 -0700 To: , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: HELP WITH MWAVE MODEM FUNCTIONS - 755CE Cc: dmoore@dill.lcs.mit.edu At 12:27 PM 8/11/95, wrote: >Can someone help me before I throw the 755CE out the window? >For about a month now I have been trying to get the internal fax/modem >to work. I'm running OS/2 Warp and ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That's your problem, not the ThinkPad. ;) (Gosh I'm glad I bought this asbestos suit!) ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 11 23:01:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11029; Fri, 11 Aug 95 23:01:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26680; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 22:51:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 22:51:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26668; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 22:51:36 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA00829; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 22:51:25 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 22:51:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: Robert Dewar Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP + Ethernet/PCMCIA + TCP/IP + OS/2 In-Reply-To: <9508112214.AA00717@nile.gnat.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 11 Aug 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: > I am running Warp on a 755CX. I need to buy the software and hardware > (PCMCIA card) to get a clean and easy interface to a Unix network on > ethernet (Sun and SGI machines). Does anyone know of a set of stuff > that will work with minimum hassle? I used the IBM PCMCIA Credit Card Adapter II and IBM TCP/IP (most of the OS/2 networked software out there is for IBM TCP/IP). TCP/IP is horribly expensive for what you get -- there are numerous additional kits you have to buy for additional functionality like X, DOS compability, etc. Figuring out the installation between TCP/IP and the ethernet card was a pain, but is simple once you figure it out (the instructions included with both the card and TCP/IP are very poorly written). Fortunately I've done it enough times that if you buy the card and software I can tell you the exact procedure. One way to cut down on cost is to subscribe to DevCon (something like $125/yr for students, $195/yr for everyone else). This gets quarterly CD-packs with a license for OS/2, tons of development software, as well as the TCP/IP 2.0 base kit, DOS compatibility kit, developer's kit (including Winsock docs), and maybe a couple other things. I'll just mention there are "unauthorized" ways to get X working without buying it (don't quote me on that :). Another option might be to use Warp Connect, which includes TCP/IP 3.0. Eventually, I figured out 95% of the software I ran under OS/2 was ports of Unix tools so I got myself Linux. Surprisingly, the current Linux PCMCIA drivers identifies and uses the IBM CCA2 automatically. (too automatically -- I still haven't figured out how to get it to use IRQ 5 instead of stealing IRQ 3 from the modem) I'm currently trying to get it set up for DOS and it is a major pain. Between the required PCMCIA drivers and networking drivers, I end up with about 430-460k of low memory and Novell Lan Workplace's TCPIP stack refuses to load for some reason. I'm going to try Trumpet Winsock this weekend, hopefully with better luck. All I need it for is Internet Phone since IBM is holding up the Linux sound drivers for the TP750. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 11 23:21:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11835; Fri, 11 Aug 95 23:21:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26372; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 22:47:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 22:47:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA26359; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 22:47:02 -0400 Received: from [128.125.224.163] (comserv-j-19.usc.edu [128.125.224.163]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id TAA01155; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 19:46:49 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 19:53:04 -0700 To: manning@cs.vassar.edu (Joseph Manning), TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: TP-755CX screen dims using battery At 3:17 PM 8/11/95, Joseph Manning wrote: > The screen on my new SVGA TP-755CX dims considerably > whenever I remove the AC power cord and it switches to > battery power. This happens even when the Li-ion battery > shows a 100% charge, and the computer is configured for > "High Performance" under battery power. > > My questions: > > - is this normal, or do I perhaps have a weak battery? It's a "feature" to save your battery. > - if it is normal, then is there any way to circumvent > this dimming, even if it shortens battery life? On my 750C, it can be circumvented at the DOS line by typing "PS2 BR N". PS2 is the command for invoking ThinkPad features (as you know), BR stands for "Brightness", and "N" is "Normal" (rather than "battery save". On the 750's it was undocumented--I don't know whether it is known (or even *works*) on the newer ones. ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 11 23:38:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12767; Fri, 11 Aug 95 23:38:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28725; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 23:28:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 23:28:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA28708; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 23:28:37 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA01766; Fri, 11 Aug 95 23:29:22 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 95 23:29:22 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508120329.AA01766@nile.gnat.com> To: dmoore@dill.lcs.mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: HELP WITH MWAVE MODEM FUNCTIONS - 755CE I am running WARP on a 755CX and the modem works just fine for me. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Aug 12 11:05:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16109; Sat, 12 Aug 95 11:05:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11805; Sat, 12 Aug 1995 10:56:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 12 Aug 1995 10:56:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11795; Sat, 12 Aug 1995 10:56:24 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id HAA17274; Sat, 12 Aug 1995 07:56:15 -0700 Message-Id: <199508121456.HAA17274@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Sat, 12 Aug 95 07:58:43 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: RAM for 755Cs The RAM saga continues... I'm looking for the most inexpensive possible source of a 16MB Ram module for my TP 755Cs. Sigma Data wants about $950, which I've been told is high. Can someone tell me of a vendor who offers TP-certified RAM at a lower price? Roger J. Buffington AB6WR USC Law, Class of '97 Go Trojans! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from | | them (Native Americans). There were great numbers of people who | | needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it | | for themsleves." - John Wayne (actor) | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Aug 12 11:26:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17919; Sat, 12 Aug 95 11:26:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13234; Sat, 12 Aug 1995 11:21:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 12 Aug 1995 11:21:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13224; Sat, 12 Aug 1995 11:21:40 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA18802; Sat, 12 Aug 95 11:22:20 -0400 Date: Sat, 12 Aug 95 11:22:20 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508121522.AA18802@nile.gnat.com> To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: RAM for 755Cs Roger asks "The RAM saga continues... I'm looking for the most inexpensive possible source of a 16MB Ram module for my TP 755Cs. Sigma Data wants about $950, which I've been told is high. Can someone tell me of a vendor who offers TP-certified RAM at a lower price?" just look in ads in PC Magazine or Computer Shopper. Here is one example from Computer Shopper. S.E.G. Technologies, Inc. 800-372-7666, price for 16 meg board: $720. I have seen lower prices, I seem to remember $699. Also, consider getting a 16 meg DIMM and DIMM adapter, I have seen this combination for under $800. It is a little more expensive, but the advantage is you can add another 16 meg DIMM later without having to throw away what you already have. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Aug 12 16:16:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10436; Sat, 12 Aug 95 16:16:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28164; Sat, 12 Aug 1995 16:04:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 12 Aug 1995 16:04:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA28127; Sat, 12 Aug 1995 16:04:33 -0400 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA40169; Sat, 12 Aug 1995 15:59:54 -0400 Message-Id: <9508121959.AA40169@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: Re: RAM for 755Cs To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu Date: Sat, 12 Aug 1995 15:59:54 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199508121456.HAA17274@chaph.usc.edu> from "Roger J. Buffington" at Aug 12, 95 07:58:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text > The RAM saga continues... I'm looking for the most inexpensive > possible source of a 16MB Ram module for my TP 755Cs. Sigma Data > wants about $950, which I've been told is high. Can someone tell me > of a vendor who offers TP-certified RAM at a lower price? I don't know about "TP-certified" but I got a 16M module for my 755CX a week or so ago for $639 + $6 2nd-day FedEx shipping from First Source International. The manufacturer is Paragon, and the memory card works like a charm. You can reach FSI 1-800-480-9866. -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Aug 12 17:42:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12964; Sat, 12 Aug 95 17:42:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03470; Sat, 12 Aug 1995 17:35:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 12 Aug 1995 17:35:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blob.best.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA03445; Sat, 12 Aug 1995 17:35:18 -0400 From: Received: from 204.156.137.12 (sandy.vip.best.com [204.156.137.12]) by blob.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA27905; Sat, 12 Aug 1995 14:35:08 -0700 Date: Sat, 12 Aug 1995 14:35:08 -0700 Message-Id: <199508122135.OAA27905@blob.best.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP-755CX screen dims using battery To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) In-Reply-To: <9508112112.AA00312@nile.gnat.com> X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 On Fri, 11 Aug 95, dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) wrote: >Best guess is that IBM does not want magazines to benchmark battery >life with "full power options" including the bright screen. That makes >perfectly good sense, battery life is something that any idiot reviewer >can measure and report on, whereas it is much less likely that you get >criticized for a dimmer screen on battery power. Interesting comment Robert because I can't help wonder if some magazine reviewers are totally oblivious to this "undocumented feature" too. For example, look at the review of various "Super VGA" portables, including the IBM 755CX ThinkPad, in the September issue of Mobile Office Magazine. Although they picked the IBM 755CX as the best all-around Super VGA notebook, their only negative comment was: "Aside from its TFT Display, which falls short of the LCDs from NEC and AT&T in brightness, the ThinkPad comes close to perfection". Also in their +/- summary they say "TFT display slightly dimmer, colors slightly duller". I looked at most of the notebooks available today (many side-by-side) before I purchased my 755CX. My impression was that the IBM 755CX had the brightest, sharpest, cleanest, most vibrant color display I saw and made my purchase based on this observation. In fact, my application for the notebook (portable photographic/graphic editing) demanded that I buy the best possible display available (money was NOT an issue). Sure, I saw other LCD displays with similar characteristics, but none came close to the ThinkPad's Super VGA display at 65K color depth. I wouldn't be at all surprised that the Mobile Office reviewers were totally "in the dark" about this undocumented ThinkPad display "feature". :-) This just exemplifies why I have always taken magazine product reviews "with a grain of salt". Even if you believe the magazine's review is unbiased (you know it's very unlikely any magazine is going to "bad mouth" any of its large advertisers), most reviewers don't spend enough time with the product to properly evaluate it anyway. I think most magazine product reviews are useful to help narrow down the choices to a few and then it's up to us to evaluate them BEFORE we buy. _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +-----.oOOo--()--oOOo.-------+ | InterNet : sandy@sandy.com | +-------------- Oooo.--------+ .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Aug 12 20:07:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19629; Sat, 12 Aug 95 20:07:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10015; Sat, 12 Aug 1995 19:59:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 12 Aug 1995 19:59:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09999; Sat, 12 Aug 1995 19:59:48 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA25452; Sat, 12 Aug 95 20:00:30 -0400 Date: Sat, 12 Aug 95 20:00:30 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508130000.AA25452@nile.gnat.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, sandy@sandy.com Subject: Re: TP-755CX screen dims using battery I noticed that review and was puzzled by the comment on the brightness of the screen, so you are probably right in your analysis. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 13 08:41:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24155; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:41:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA23302; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 08:30:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 08:30:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from asimov.cnam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA23286; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 08:30:21 -0400 Received: from (eronald@localhost) by asimov.cnam.fr id OAA16464 (8.6.12/); Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:30:16 +0200 From: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:30:16 +0200 Message-Id: <199508131230.OAA16464@asimov.cnam.fr> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, sandy@sandy.com Subject: Re: TP-755CX screen dims using battery : FIX Yo! The screen dimming on battery power is well documented. There is a fix which is using the PS2 command or whatever it's called, with the BR eco or br normal switch, like PS2 set br norm By the way, my 720C is a broke piece of shit, after 3 visits to IBM repoair I'm not gonna try revive it anymore . 5K$ down the drain. Edmund. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 13 09:25:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25635; Sun, 13 Aug 95 09:25:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25985; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 09:18:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 09:18:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25975; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 09:18:37 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA29217; Sun, 13 Aug 95 09:19:14 -0400 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 95 09:19:14 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508131319.AA29217@nile.gnat.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, eronald@cnam.fr, sandy@sandy.com Subject: Re: TP-755CX screen dims using battery : FIX " The screen dimming on battery power is well documented. There is a fix which is using the PS2 command or whatever it's called, with the BR eco or br normal switch, like" says Edmund Ronald yes, we all know this command, but are you sure it is documented. I have never seen any documentation of this command, and it certainly was not documented early on. I agree the dimming is documented, but is the fix? What wnet wrong with your 720C, that's very unusual experience, and it sems like you should be able to get it remedied. After three unsuccessful attempts at repair, it becomes clear something is fundamentally wrong, and I would have thought that an attempt to complain at a higher level would be successful. Can you elaborate? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 13 09:27:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25645; Sun, 13 Aug 95 09:27:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26258; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 09:21:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 09:21:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26245; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 09:21:51 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id JAA21730 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 09:23:54 -0400 Received: by channel1 (NetXpress 2.02) with UUCP id D700B8; Sat, 12 Aug 1995 23:35:00 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Iomega Zip/750c From: akiro@channel1.com (Akiro) Message-Id: <40.1165991.700@channel1.com> Date: Sat, 12 Aug 1995 23:06:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Subject: Iomega Zip/750c Anyone been able to get Iomega Zip Drive to work with Thinkpad 750c? Thanks, Akiro From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 13 12:00:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00631; Sun, 13 Aug 95 12:00:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04923; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 11:50:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 11:50:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tequesta.gate.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA04908; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 11:50:11 -0400 Received: from navajo.gate.net (jbush@navajo.gate.net [199.227.0.15]) by tequesta.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA30815 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 11:48:48 -0400 Received: (from jbush@localhost) by navajo.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA38899; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 11:49:15 -0400 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 11:49:13 -0400 (EDT) From: James Bush To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: SUBSCRIBE Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII need info on how to subscribe for a friend please :]]] thank you jamie From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 13 13:10:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06886; Sun, 13 Aug 95 13:10:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08744; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 13:02:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 13:02:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dill.lcs.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08733; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 13:02:51 -0400 From: Received: by dill.lcs.mit.edu; id AA01887; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 13:02:48 -0400 Message-Id: <9508131702.AA01887@dill.lcs.mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: dmoore@dill.lcs.mit.edu Subject: RE: THINKPAD WITH WARP Date: Sun, 13 Aug 95 13:02:48 -0400 X-Mts: smtp Thanks for the responses to my question regarding the fax/modem on my 755CE not working with OS/2. Several people have suggested using Win95. I will probably go that route when it is released, but in the meantime, could someone tell me whether or not the fax/modem works with Windows 3.1? I would like to avoid downloading all the (seven?) mwave driver disks from the thinkpad FTP site (long distance call to my access provider!) just to find out they don't work. I've already blown $80 on OS/2, just to find that it doesn't work. Strange -- an IBM operating system doesn't support an IBM machine. Anyone: any luck with the mwave drivers under Win 3.1? Please email directly - I'll subscribe t the list when I have a local internet access provider -- this long distance stuff is killing me. Thanks for your help all! -Drew From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 13 13:53:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08558; Sun, 13 Aug 95 13:53:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10340; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 13:45:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 13:45:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hades.osc.epsilon.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10321; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 13:45:20 -0400 Received: by hades.osc.epsilon.com (4.1/3.1.-Epsilon Data Management) id AA22581; Sun, 13 Aug 95 13:47:45 EDT Received: from kosmos.quantum.epsilon.com(159.127.20.130) by hades.osc.epsilon.com via smap (V1.3) id sma022579; Sun Aug 13 13:46:59 1995 Received: from titan.Quantum.epsilon.com by kosmos.epsilon.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01785; Sun, 13 Aug 95 13:44:09 EDT Received: by titan.Quantum.epsilon.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19819; Sun, 13 Aug 95 13:44:08 EDT Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 13:44:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chan T. Cao" To: dmoore@dill.lcs.mit.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, dmoore@dill.lcs.mit.edu Subject: RE: THINKPAD WITH WARP In-Reply-To: <9508131702.AA01887@dill.lcs.mit.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mwave drivers for windows will work like a charm. "I guarantee it," if I was George Foreman. :) On Sun, 13 Aug 1995 dmoore@dill.lcs.mit.edu wrote: > > Thanks for the responses to my question regarding the fax/modem > on my 755CE not working with OS/2. Several people have > suggested using Win95. > > I will probably go that route when it is released, but in the meantime, > could someone tell me whether or not the fax/modem works with > Windows 3.1? I would like to avoid downloading all the (seven?) > mwave driver disks from the thinkpad FTP site (long distance > call to my access provider!) just to find out they don't work. > I've already blown $80 on OS/2, just to find that it doesn't work. > Strange -- an IBM operating system doesn't support an IBM machine. For example: The instructions on installing os/2 mwave drivers alone is 7 pages long! It didn't mention anything about enabling the serial port from the BIOS either. If the port is not enabled, com.sys is not coppied to os2/boot. You then scrambling to find out where you can locate com.sys from the install CD. > > Anyone: any luck with the mwave drivers under Win 3.1? > > Please email directly - I'll subscribe t the list when I have a > local internet access provider -- this long distance stuff is > killing me. > > Thanks for your help all! > > -Drew > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 13 15:02:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11052; Sun, 13 Aug 95 15:02:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13339; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:53:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:53:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13328; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:53:12 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA12028; Sun, 13 Aug 95 14:53:47 -0400 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 95 14:53:47 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508131853.AA12028@nile.gnat.com> To: dmoore@dill.lcs.mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: THINKPAD WITH WARP what exactly are you trying to do. Once I installed the MWAVE modem properly for OS/2 (which was easy once I had the magic 4 page FAX from IBM support) I can certainly use the modem easily, and am very happy with its performance. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 13 15:09:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11078; Sun, 13 Aug 95 15:09:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13932; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:03:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:03:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13921; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:03:33 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA12199; Sun, 13 Aug 95 15:00:16 -0400 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 95 15:00:16 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508131900.AA12199@nile.gnat.com> To: ctc@epsilon.com, dmoore@dill.lcs.mit.edu Subject: RE: THINKPAD WITH WARP Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU "The instructions on installing os/2 mwave drivers alone is 7 pages long! It didn't mention anything about enabling the serial port from the BIOS either. If the port is not enabled, com.sys is not coppied to os2/boot. You then scrambling to find out where you can locate com.sys from the install CD." I followed the instructions exactly, it was easy to do, and it worked fine first time. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 13 15:57:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13217; Sun, 13 Aug 95 15:57:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17043; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:49:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:49:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from acorn.grove.iup.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA17030; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:49:46 -0400 Received: from grove.iup.edu by grove.iup.edu (PMDF V4.3-13 #2467) id <01HU11KS42LC8WX3A8@grove.iup.edu>; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:49:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:46:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark_Strawcutter Subject: Re: TP-755CX screen dims using battery : FIX To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HU136ZFQM88WX3A8@grove.iup.edu> Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania X-Envelope-To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT >" The screen dimming on battery power is well documented. ... >says Edmund Ronald >yes, we all know this command, but are you sure it is documented. I have >never seen any documentation of this command, and it certainly was >not documented early on. I agree the dimming is documented, but is the fix? I don't think he clamied the _command_ was documented. He clamed the _dimming_ was documented - which it is and which you then agree with. ---------- Mark J Strawcutter Internet: mjstraw@grove.iup.edu Director, Systems and Communications BITNET: MJSTRAW@IUP Indiana University of Pennsylvania Voice: (412) 357-4007 Indiana, PA 15705 "you can't nail jello to a tree" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 13 17:08:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17981; Sun, 13 Aug 95 17:08:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21643; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 16:56:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 16:56:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from asimov.cnam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21633; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 16:56:22 -0400 Received: from (eronald@localhost) by asimov.cnam.fr id WAA19311 (8.6.12/); Sun, 13 Aug 1995 22:56:13 +0200 From: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 22:56:13 +0200 Message-Id: <199508132056.WAA19311@asimov.cnam.fr> To: MJSTRAW@grove.iup.edu, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP-755CX screen dims using battery : FIX of course the COMMAND is not documented - what d'you expet from IBM ? transparency ? They do this (dim the screen) for your own good --do you really mean you know better than mighty HAL :) ? Edmund. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 13 17:12:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17997; Sun, 13 Aug 95 17:12:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22270; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 17:08:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 17:08:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22259; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 17:08:05 -0400 Received: by GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA20390; Sun, 13 Aug 95 16:38:02 EDT Date: Sun, 13 Aug 95 16:38:02 EDT Message-Id: <9508132038.AA20390@GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU> From: David Fox To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Any luck running XFree86 on an 800x600 LCD? Has anyone managed to get XFree to use the whole screen on a Thinkpad with an 800x600 display? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 13 17:19:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19020; Sun, 13 Aug 95 17:19:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22636; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 17:14:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 17:14:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22626; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 17:14:40 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA17701; Sun, 13 Aug 95 17:15:17 -0400 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 95 17:15:17 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508132115.AA17701@nile.gnat.com> To: MJSTRAW@grove.iup.edu, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, eronald@cnam.fr Subject: Re: TP-755CX screen dims using battery : FIX Edmund says: "of course the COMMAND is not documented - what d'you expet from IBM ? transparency ? They do this (dim the screen) for your own good --do you really mean you know better than mighty HAL :) ?" Actually I think my explanation for the failure to document this option is probably the right one. It certainly is a little peculiar. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 14 07:57:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13768; Mon, 14 Aug 95 07:57:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA20464; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 07:48:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 07:48:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vms1.cc.uop.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA20453; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 07:47:58 -0400 Received: by vms1.cc.uop.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) id 15; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 04:47:54 PST Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 04:47:53 PST From: JOHNNY Reply-To: ggomez@vms1.cc.uop.edu To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <00994D89.948888A8.15@vms1.cc.uop.edu> Subject: help with Warp and TP750 Hello everyone I am currently in the process of installing Warp on my TP for i think is the fourth time :) . I can't say the three previous attempts were failures, but after using Warp for awhile, things would wreak havoc and i would end up dumping it all for DOS/WIN setup. The basics worked fine but fine tuning Warp didn't go well. So anyways.... I was wondering if there is a someone out there that has gotten Warp to run on their TP750. As for some Specific: - is there any other device drivers, Fixpacks, patches, etc. that i need? - How well have you been able to get sound to work in Warp, WinOs2, DOSinaBox, full screen DOS to work. ( i.e. games, MIDI, etc.) - Associatings files... I can do it manually, but i would like Warp to automatically associate files like Word docs, Excel xls, Jpegs, etc. so when a save it to the desktop its assocaited to the correct program. I noticed hat warp will do it for text files, wav, mid, and some others but can't figure out how. - Whatever other info or other neat little trick that you have found with Warp and ThinkPads that you are willing to share... Here is what i got... TP750 20 MB RAM 170 MB Harddrive 14.4 PCMCIA IntelFaxmodem Qlogic PCMCIA SCSI card with External Harddrive 14" External Monitor, Gateway 2000 (manufact. ?) Just got the monitor saturday, i notice when switching from Full DOS scrn back to Warp, the pcture is a little pilled up at the top. Switching to LCD and back to the monitor fixes it. I would like to thank you al in advance for any help that you can give me in making the most of my Warp experience :) I appreciate any help... Thank you -john From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 14 09:29:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20242; Mon, 14 Aug 95 09:29:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25886; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:20:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:20:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25870; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:20:46 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0626; Mon, 14 Aug 95 09:21:58 -0400 Message-Id: <9508141321.AA0626@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 25E4B010A7EBA268852562180047A2D4; Mon, 14 Aug 95 09:21:49 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 14 Aug 95 9:06:41 Subject: Re: RAM for 755Cs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....The RAM saga continues... I'm looking for the most inexpensive possible source of a 16MB Ram module for my TP 755Cs. Sigma Data wants about $950, which I've been told is high. Can someone tell me of a vendor who offers TP-certified RAM at a lower price?....." ~~~~~~~~~~ Simple Technology. We get their 16MB DRAM cards for around $800. We use them in the 360, 360C, 755C, CD & CSE. One hoop to jump through on install, but other than that, they run like a champ. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 14 10:03:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22890; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:03:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28735; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:57:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:57:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.netvision.net.il by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28724; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:57:28 -0400 From: Received: from TelAviv.netvision.net.il (ts33p9.NetVision.net.il [194.90.3.149]) by mail.netvision.net.il (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA26737 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:57:57 +0300 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:54:17 PDT Subject: Suspend Mode To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII After leaving the TP755c in suspend mode for 24-36 hr the computer is dead and I have to reconnect the power in order to bring him back to live. Is this normal ??? ( I am used to Canon where I could leave it for a week or so ) TIA, Ariel ------------------------------------- Name: Ariel .K. Eisenberg Group Of Companies E-mail: rel@TelAviv.netvision.net.il (Ariel .K.) Date: 04/10/95 Time: 17:27:48 This message was sent by Chameleon ------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 14 10:05:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24018; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:05:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28902; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:59:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:59:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA28837; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:58:59 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0si03E-0004u0C; Mon, 14 Aug 95 08:59 CDT Received: by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0si03D-0002nkC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 08:59 CDT Message-Id: X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) From: Scott Stratmoen To: ggomez@vms1.cc.uop.edu To: Thinkpad Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:56:55 CST Reply-To: strat@dsd.northrop.com Subject: Re: help with Warp and TP750 Addressed to: ggomez@vms1.cc.uop.edu Thinkpad ** Reply to note from JOHNNY 08/14/95 04:47am PST > Hello everyone > > I am currently in the process of installing Warp on my TP for > i think is the fourth time :) . I can't say the three previous attempts > were failures, but after using Warp for awhile, things would wreak havoc > and i would end up dumping it all for DOS/WIN setup. The basics worked > fine but fine tuning Warp didn't go well. So anyways.... I think that for me it was over a dozen times before I was able to get the red box working properly... In all seriousness if you are using OS/2 Warp Connect the install on a 750C goes without ANY problems. If you are using the red box (Warp for Windows) then you need to obtain fixpack number 5 ASAP. In addition if you are using a dock II (not sure about a dock I), the PCMCIA drivers in the base red box CD rom by default conflict with the dock's scsi controller. This is resolved in the fixpack but you may have trouble getting to the fixpack. > > I was wondering if there is a someone out there that has gotten Warp to > run on their TP750. I have had the red box, and now Connect, running for many months. The only issue which I still have with OS/2 on ANY portable is when you attempt to use different screen resolutions. When switching between the different resolutions the desktop/folder layout can get hosed up. There is a NEW video driver kit (from the OS/2 people, not IBM mobiles) for WARP. You must install this kit to have any hope of getting crt/lcd to work. In addition, on the 750 with this kit THE MOUSE TRACKING SPEED IS MUCH GREATER THAN EVER BEFORE! > > As for some Specific: > > - is there any other device drivers, Fixpacks, patches, etc. that i need? See above. > - How well have you been able to get sound to work in Warp, WinOs2, > DOSinaBox, full screen DOS to work. ( i.e. games, MIDI, etc.) You need the fixpack for red box to get the internal sound to function properly. I have a AWE-32 in the dock. Works great. > - Associatings files... I can do it manually, but i would like Warp to > automatically associate files like Word docs, Excel xls, Jpegs, etc. so > when a save it to the desktop its assocaited to the correct program. > I noticed hat warp will do it for text files, wav, mid, and some others > but can't figure out how. Check out the migrate command and it's database file. You may need to modify the database, or migrate the apps to os/2 if you have not done that already.  ___ Scott A. Stratmoen Northrop Grumman strat@dsd.northrop.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 14 11:17:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29112; Mon, 14 Aug 95 11:17:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05178; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:08:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:08:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA05168; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:08:31 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0778; Mon, 14 Aug 95 11:09:42 -0400 Message-Id: <9508141509.AA0778@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 3E61A279B33E395785256218005228A5; Mon, 14 Aug 95 11:09:37 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 14 Aug 95 11:02:39 Subject: Re: RAM for 755Cs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....What is the hoop? And are the cards TP-certified?....." ~~~~~~~~~~ the hoop is that you have to have parity enabled in the cmos before you install the card. then, once you install it, you have to boot immediately to the cmos and disable parity checking. if you boot to the os before you disable parity, you have to pull the card & start over. no big deal. i don't know if these cards are tp-certified, but i've talked to ibm tech support about them & they do support them. they gave me the install tip. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 14 11:46:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00413; Mon, 14 Aug 95 11:46:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08173; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:39:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:39:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08163; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:39:52 -0400 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA17977; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:35:16 -0400 Message-Id: <9508141535.AA17977@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: Color hand-scanner suggestions? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:35:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text I need to get a color hand-scanner in the next couple of weeks. As nice as flatbed scanners are, I need to be able to take the scanner and my TP755CX with me when travelling and/or going to library to use reserve materials. My planned use is scanning pictures and tables/charts for inclusion into reports and presentation materials. I'll be using CorelDRAW! 4, Freelance Graphics, & AmiPro under Win95. Although I might do a little bit of OCR, it is not a priority. I'd appreciate any suggestions or experiences people have with portable hand-scanners. Is it worth it to go with PCMCIA rather than parallel? Thanks. -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 14 11:48:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00442; Mon, 14 Aug 95 11:48:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08544; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:42:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:42:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08521; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:42:26 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA00277; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:42:09 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:42:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: JOHNNY Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: help with Warp and TP750 In-Reply-To: <00994D89.948888A8.15@vms1.cc.uop.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, JOHNNY wrote: > - How well have you been able to get sound to work in Warp, WinOs2, > DOSinaBox, full screen DOS to work. ( i.e. games, MIDI, etc.) The confusing thing about sound on the TP is that there are two sources for drivers: one from OS/2 development, and the other from Thinkpad development. The one from OS/2 (ships with Warp, recommended by the Thinkpad folks) does *not* support Soundblaster/Adlib/Roland emulation in a DOS box. What I did was install multimedia, but no sound drivers. Then I installed the OS/2 2.1 sound drivers that came with my Thinkpad. These seem to be somewhat buggier, sometimes crashing. They've also released an update disk for OS/2 and WinOS2. Get both from ftp.pcco.ibm.com in /pub/mobiles. Whatever you do, make sure you DON'T install BOTH drivers (Warp and Thinkpad). That's almost guaranteed to crash OS/2 every time you try to use DOS sounds. Device drivers operate at a higher priority level than programs and can hose a protected system like OS/2. > - Associatings files... I can do it manually, but i would like Warp to > automatically associate files like Word docs, Excel xls, Jpegs, etc. so > when a save it to the desktop its assocaited to the correct program. > I noticed hat warp will do it for text files, wav, mid, and some others > but can't figure out how. Yes, there's a way. Pop up the settings folder on the app, and there should be a section on associations or something. Just add the *.??? extension to the list. Note that you can associate more than one app with a file type -- one is the default and the others can be called up with the pop-up menu (right mouse button) on the file. > - Whatever other info or other neat little trick that you have found with > Warp and ThinkPads that you are willing to share... There's a web site out there called Stupid OS/2 Tricks. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 14 13:43:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11243; Mon, 14 Aug 95 13:43:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17224; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:29:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:29:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blob.best.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17196; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:29:34 -0400 From: Received: from 204.156.137.12 (sandy.vip.best.com [204.156.137.12]) by blob.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA25378 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:29:36 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:29:36 -0700 Message-Id: <199508141729.KAA25378@blob.best.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: RAM for 755Cs To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9508141321.AA0626@LGATE.vmedia.com> X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 On 14 Aug 95, Michael Verne/VENTANA wrote: >".....The RAM saga continues... I'm looking for the most inexpensive >possible source of a 16MB Ram module for my TP 755Cs. Sigma Data >wants about $950, which I've been told is high. Can someone tell me >of a vendor who offers TP-certified RAM at a lower price?....." > >~~~~~~~~~~ > >Simple Technology. We get their 16MB DRAM cards for around $800. We use them >in the 360, 360C, 755C, CD & CSE. One hoop to jump through on install, but >other than that, they run like a champ. > >Michael J. Verne >michael_verne@vmedia.com >Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. I agree with Michael. I use their 16MB in my 755CX and it works fine. I paid about $675 from CDW (Computer Discount Warehouse). Call Derek at 1-800-800-4239 x7342 for your best price. CDW usually has it in stock. _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +-----.oOOo--()--oOOo.-------+ | InterNet : sandy@sandy.com | +-------------- Oooo.--------+ .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 14 14:43:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15870; Mon, 14 Aug 95 14:43:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22246; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:28:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:28:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ucla.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22236; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:28:01 -0400 Received: from ts4-12.westwood.ts.ucla.edu (ts4-12.westwood.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.17.109]) by ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA05097 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:27:52 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:27:52 -0700 Message-Id: <199508141827.LAA05097@ucla.edu> X-Sender: sshaw@pop.ben2.ucla.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (by way of Stanford Shaw ) Subject: misdirected mail Full documentation regarding the use of the PS2 command to modify various functions on Thinkpad models, including the brightness on the screen when changing from electric to battery power, is found in the new book by IBM International Technical Support Centers, entitled "IBM ThinkPad Systems,"pp. 308-312. Stanford J. Shaw sshaw@ucla.edu Professor of Turkish and Judeo-Turkish History University of California Los Angeles, CA, 90024 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 14 15:05:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16940; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:05:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24255; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:50:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:50:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24240; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:50:40 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA06860; Mon, 14 Aug 95 14:51:17 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 14:51:17 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508141851.AA06860@nile.gnat.com> To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: misdirected mail fine but a book, even if published by IBM does not constitute documentation! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 14 20:25:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14148; Mon, 14 Aug 95 20:25:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17119; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 20:12:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 20:12:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from www.ezl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17109; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 20:12:12 -0400 Received: from [206.24.43.12] ([206.24.43.12]) by www.ezl.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA24888; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 19:18:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199508150018.TAA24888@www.ezl.com> X-Authentication-Warning: www.ezl.com: Host [206.24.43.12] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) From: Kris Williams To: rel@netvision.net.il Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 20:11:35 EST Reply-To: "Kris D. Williams" >After leaving the TP755c in suspend mode for 24-36 hr the computer is >dead and I >have to reconnect the power in order to bring him back to live. Is >this normal ??? ( I am >used to Canon where I could leave it for a week or so ) > >TIA, > >Ariel It sounds like the machine wasn't in full suspend. If you have a task running, the machine will often only go into a partial suspend (which basically means it turns off the display. ************************************************************************************* * Kris D. Williams email: krisdw@ezl.com <-- Note my new email address * * * * Instructor/Developer: Mobile Platform Education * * IBM Education and Training * * * * Co-Owner: Incomm "Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior * * * * My opinions are my own. Really they are! * ************************************************************************************* cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 15 04:18:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12366; Tue, 15 Aug 95 04:18:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA18140; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 04:07:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 04:07:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from expert.cc.purdue.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA18130; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 04:07:19 -0400 Received: (from jollymon@localhost) by expert.cc.purdue.edu (8.6.10/8.6.12) id DAA21042 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 03:07:13 -0500 From: Jason Message-Id: <199508150807.DAA21042@expert.cc.purdue.edu> Subject: Memory for 755Cs / Simple Tech. To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 03:07:11 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text I worked at a computer manufacturing center this summer and this is where I came across Simple Tech. The customer service/sales dept. said that this memory had a high failure rate. I was wondering if anyone has had any such experiences with this memory. I wanted to buy it because of the DIMM (only company to make a 16MB DIMM>, but I was going to just buy a 16MB IC DRAM card (probably from Viking or Kingston) for around $700. If you were in my position (semi-poor broke college student) what memory would you buy? Thanks Jason sethi@en.ecn.purdue.edu jollymon@expert.cc.purdue.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 15 04:53:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00762; Tue, 15 Aug 95 04:53:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20388; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 04:44:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 04:44:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rank-serv.elec.gla.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA20377; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 04:44:23 -0400 Message-Id: <8970.199508150844@rank-serv.elec.gla.ac.uk> Received: from (twoflower [130.209.176.63] sender mal) by rank-serv.elec.gla.ac.uk (8.6.12/UK-2.2a/elec-sparc) with SMTP id JAA08970 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 09:44:35 +0100 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 95 09:43:32 bst From: mal@elec.gla.ac.uk (Malcolm McGilp) Reply-To: mal@elec.gla.ac.uk (Malcolm McGilp) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.0 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: Processor upgrade for TP755CE Hi, Can anyone please tell me what is involved in the Pentium upgrade for the 755CE. Is it just a processor or is there a bios upgrade as well. Finally has anyone any experience with 3rd party upgrades ? Thanks in advance, Mal Malcolm McGilp (+44) 0 141 330 5235 mal@elec.gla.ac.uk From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 15 10:03:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09204; Tue, 15 Aug 95 10:03:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13972; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 09:53:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 09:53:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA13952; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 09:53:05 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA07606; Tue, 15 Aug 95 09:53:40 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 95 09:53:40 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508151353.AA07606@nile.gnat.com> To: kapaun@den.mmc.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Megahertz EtherModem and Warp Connect I have been told that a 3-com PCMCIA ethernt card is the best choice with Warp-Connect? is this right? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 15 10:16:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09964; Tue, 15 Aug 95 10:16:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10268; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 09:02:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 09:02:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sinai.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10255; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 09:02:12 -0400 Received: by sinai.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA16707; Tue, 15 Aug 95 07:01:27 MDT Message-Id: <9508151301.AA16707@sinai.den.mmc.com> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 95 07:01:40 EDT From: kapaun@den.mmc.com (Paul Kapaun) Reply-To: kapaun@den.mmc.com (Paul Kapaun) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail v1.1 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Subject: Megahertz EtherModem and Warp Connect I recently upgraded from Warp to Warp Connect on my 755c in the hopes of being able to access our LAN at work. Come to find out that my ethermodem (Megahertz EM1144t) does not have a driver for OS/2 -dido for Warp Connect. I did not anticipate any compatability problems since Warp had preinstalled Megahertz modem drivers (bad assumption). Anyone know of a work around short of buying a different card? BTW Megahertz claims their working on a driver but Windoze 95 work has all their attention now (which means theres no driver insight). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 15 10:41:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11297; Tue, 15 Aug 95 10:41:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17189; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 10:32:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 10:32:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17178; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 10:32:40 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA1590; Tue, 15 Aug 95 10:33:52 -0400 Message-Id: <9508151433.AA1590@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 6CFA14AA0F7CA33A85256219004DED00; Tue, 15 Aug 95 10:33:42 To: jollymon Cc: TP750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 15 Aug 95 10:20:31 Subject: Re: Memory for 755Cs / Simple Tech. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....came across Simple Tech. The customer service/sales dept. said that this memory had a high failure rate. I was wondering if anyone has had any such experiences with this memory. I wanted to buy it because of the DIMM (only company to make a 16MB DIMM>, but I was going to just buy a 16MB IC DRAM card (probably from Viking or Kingston) for around $700. If you were in my position (semi-poor broke college student) what memory would you buy?....." ~~~~~~~~~~ We have about 15 Thinkpads using the same Simple Tech 16MB DRAM card and have had no failures. Most of the laptops have been here 6-8 months. I think we pay $800, but apparently others are getting them for around $700. I didn't realize the Viking was priced as low as this. BTW, when I was a poor college student I'd have considered 2200 beers too great a sacrifice for 16MB of RAM. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 15 11:09:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12738; Tue, 15 Aug 95 11:09:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19566; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 11:00:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 11:00:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19545; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 11:00:44 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id IAA11825; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 08:00:33 -0700 Message-Id: <199508151500.IAA11825@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 95 08:03:09 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: Memory for 755Cs / Simple Tech. It *is* very important, if you are running a 32 bit operating system such as OS/2 WARP (or even one, such as Win 95, that contains some 32-bit code but isn't a true 32-bit OS) to have decent-quality ram. DOS/Windows can work with flakey ram, but you will sometimes see problems with the 32-bit systems, since they push the system harder. That's why I will probably stick with TP-certified RAM. Roger J. Buffington AB6WR USC Law, Class of '97 Go Trojans! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from | | them (Native Americans). There were great numbers of people who | | needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it | | for themsleves." - John Wayne (actor) | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 15 13:54:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23185; Tue, 15 Aug 95 13:54:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01924; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 13:43:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 13:43:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01902; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 13:43:51 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA10973; Tue, 15 Aug 95 13:44:29 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 95 13:44:29 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508151744.AA10973@nile.gnat.com> To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Memory for 755Cs / Simple Tech. I have bought several no-name miscellaneous RAM cards for TP's 16 meg and 32 meg, using only Warp under very heavy compute conditions, never had a bit of trouble. I doubt that TP-certified means anything whatsoever. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 15 15:29:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29145; Tue, 15 Aug 95 15:29:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10184; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:20:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:20:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mba.cba.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA10170; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:19:58 -0400 Received: (from sean@localhost) by mba.cba.uiuc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA22501 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 13:17:55 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199508151817.NAA22501@mba.cba.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Megahertz EtherModem and Warp Connect To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 13:17:55 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: schou@uiuc.edu In-Reply-To: <9508151353.AA07606@nile.gnat.com> from "Robert Dewar" at Aug 15, 95 09:53:40 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I have been told that a 3-com PCMCIA ethernt card is the best choice with > Warp-Connect? is this right? The 3Com PCMCIA is, IMHO, the best all-around card. For Warp Connect, just make sure you have the latest drivers or else you'll have the biggest friggin headache. Even though my diskette was labelled the same version as their latest drivers, one file (the OS/2 related one) has been updated since I recieved my diskette. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 15 15:58:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03765; Tue, 15 Aug 95 15:58:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12182; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:45:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:45:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12163; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:45:40 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA14417; Tue, 15 Aug 95 15:46:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 95 15:46:20 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508151946.AA14417@nile.gnat.com> To: schou@uiuc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Megahertz EtherModem and Warp Connect are you talking about 3Com drivers in your message, or IBM drivers? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 15 16:26:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07245; Tue, 15 Aug 95 16:26:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14717; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 16:09:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 16:09:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA14706; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 16:09:14 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24870; Tue, 15 Aug 95 13:08:08 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id NAA02841; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 13:07:48 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9508151307.ZM2839@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 13:07:47 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: New QEMM 7.5 Patches Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Has anyone tried to use the new "qpat3.exe" patches to QEMM 7.5? When I tried to apply this patch, I started to get all kinds of exception #13 and exception #17 errors on a config.sys that worked fine without the patch. Robert George Army Research Lab From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 16 00:28:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12238; Wed, 16 Aug 95 00:28:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16384; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 00:14:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 00:14:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16368; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 00:14:19 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id VAA28580; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 21:14:16 -0700 Message-Id: <199508160414.VAA28580@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 95 21:16:52 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: dewar@nile.gnat.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: Memory for 755Cs / Simple Tech. On Tue, 15 Aug 95 13:44:29 -0400 you wrote: >I have bought several no-name miscellaneous RAM cards for TP's 16 meg and >32 meg, using only Warp under very heavy compute conditions, never had a >bit of trouble. That's nice for you. However, I know a number of users who have had problems with both WARP and NT, and they traced the problem to subpar RAM. The problem is real. It wouldn't surprise me to hear that the ram that goes into notebooks tends to be of higher quality, since the value added ratio of the hardware is higher. Or some such shit. :-) Roger J. Buffington AB6WR USC Law, Class of '97 Go Trojans! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from | | them (Native Americans). There were great numbers of people who | | needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it | | for themsleves." - John Wayne (actor) | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 16 02:39:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19666; Wed, 16 Aug 95 02:39:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA26870; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 02:32:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 02:31:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mba.cba.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA26859; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 02:31:57 -0400 Received: (from sean@localhost) by mba.cba.uiuc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA25391 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 00:30:03 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199508160530.AAA25391@mba.cba.uiuc.edu> Subject: 3Com PCMCIA Ethernet & Warp To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 00:30:03 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: schou@uiuc.edu In-Reply-To: <9508151946.AA14417@nile.gnat.com> from "Robert Dewar" at Aug 15, 95 03:46:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > are you talking about 3Com drivers in your message, or IBM drivers? The 3Com drivers provided with the 3Com PCMCIA ethernet card. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 16 10:02:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19526; Wed, 16 Aug 95 10:02:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03325; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:49:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:49:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from s.psych.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA03314; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:48:58 -0400 Received: from kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu by s.psych.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA19091 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Aug 1995 08:48:03 -0500 Received: by kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA16617; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 08:48:02 -0500 From: stanwass@kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu (Stanley Wasserman) Message-Id: <9508161348.AA16617@kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu> Subject: Removing OS2 from my TP750 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 08:48:01 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24beta] Content-Type: text Dear all: My 750C (which now seems incredibly antiquated, even though it is only 18 months old) came with OS2. The boot manager on start up allows you to boot up in either DOS or OS2. Well, I want to get rid of the OS2 partition of my harddisk. What is the best way to do this? I know this is a software question, but I thought that other TP'ers might know the answer to this question quickly. Thanks in advance. SW ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Stanley Wasserman Psychology and Statistics University of Illinois Beckman Institute ****************************************************************************** stanwass@uiuc.edu * stanwass@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au * ********************* * Rest in Peace #7 1 217 333-3325 * 1 217 244-6905 * 1 217 244-5876 (fax) * ****************************************************************************** From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 16 11:09:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24523; Wed, 16 Aug 95 11:09:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09460; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:59:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:59:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09447; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:59:03 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA2288; Wed, 16 Aug 95 11:00:12 -0400 Message-Id: <9508161500.AA2288@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id B03E82E3D7A911948525621A00513F85; Wed, 16 Aug 95 11:00:02 To: Stanley Wasserman Cc: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 16 Aug 95 10:52:25 Subject: Re: Removing OS2 from my TP750 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "...Well, I want to get rid of the OS2 partition of my harddisk. What is the best way to do this?..." ~~~~~~~~~~ boot to dos. run fdisk. remove the os2 partition, then recreate it as an extended dos partition. you can't increase the size of a partition, except by removing it and recreating it, so you will be left with two dos partitions, c: and d:. your other option is to back up the dos partition, boot to a floppy, run fdisk & wipe out both partitions, then recreate one large c:. the boot manager may be taking up a 1MB partition of its own, in which case, you can wipe it out, too, if you choose the second option. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 16 11:25:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26280; Wed, 16 Aug 95 11:25:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10471; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 11:10:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 11:10:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from asimov.cnam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA10452; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 11:09:57 -0400 Received: from (eronald@localhost) by asimov.cnam.fr id RAA17390 (8.6.12/); Wed, 16 Aug 1995 17:09:39 +0200 From: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 17:09:39 +0200 Message-Id: <199508161509.RAA17390@asimov.cnam.fr> To: stanwass@kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Removing OS2 from my TP750 I think you have 3 partitions on the disk: - Boot Manager - DOS - OS/2 execute fdisk from os/2 or dos to list the partitions and see whether I'm right. if so, you can delete the os/2 partition, and put in an extended dos partition. do *not* delete the boot manager! if I'm wrong, well... you haven't paid a fee have you? Edmund. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 16 11:46:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28019; Wed, 16 Aug 95 11:46:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12957; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 11:35:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 11:35:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uranus.ubs.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12920; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 11:34:58 -0400 From: Received: by uranus.ubs.com; id RAA10124; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 17:32:16 +0200 Received: from unknown(137.156.150.131) by uranus.ubs.com via smap (g3.0.1) id sma010114; Wed, 16 Aug 95 17:31:56 +0200 Received: from by sv400net.flur.zuerich.ubs.ch with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA240857176; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 17:32:56 +0200 X-Openmail-Hops: 2 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 95 17:32:12 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Contact for 3COM PCMCIA promo? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Does anyone know if 3COM still has a promotional deal in effect for their PCMCIA Ethernet cards? Last year they were going for around $100 via an 800 number; if this is still the case, can someone please post the number? Tim Vetter Zurich tim.vetter@ubs.com ....................................................................... Item Subject: Attachment Modes 644 Contact for 3COM PCMCIA promo? 600 Attachment Modes From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 16 12:25:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00614; Wed, 16 Aug 95 12:25:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16739; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 12:16:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 12:16:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16729; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 12:16:42 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA2390; Wed, 16 Aug 95 12:17:55 -0400 Message-Id: <9508161617.AA2390@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id C8108C93E5AADAA78525621A00585262; Wed, 16 Aug 95 12:17:51 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 16 Aug 95 12:06:55 Subject: Re: Removing OS2 from my TP750 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain ".....do *not* delete the boot manager!....." ~~~~~~~~~~ It's been my experience that you can delete the boot manager partition, as long as, when you reformat the primary dos partition, you make it bootable (format /s). Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 16 14:10:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12946; Wed, 16 Aug 95 14:10:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23949; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:59:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:58:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mlfire.ml.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA23920; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:58:51 -0400 Received: from ml.com ([146.125.4.24]) by mlfire.ml.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA18937 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 14:00:57 -0400 Received: from pport2.firsol.ml.com (pport2.firsol.ml.com [146.125.3.201]) by ml.com (8.6.9/8.6.3) with SMTP id NAA26465 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:58:14 -0400 Received: by pport2.firsol.ml.com (5.x/SMI-4.1) id AA01086; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:57:49 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:57:49 -0400 From: lyip@firsol.ml.com (Luis Yip) Message-Id: <9508161757.AA01086@pport2.firsol.ml.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Installing SCSI disk in TP DOCK I X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Hi, I just bought a used DOCK I, and I'm wondering if it is posibble to install s scsi disk in it. If it is, what kind of disk, cable, software do I need??? The dock already comes with a CDROM but I can't access it with my tp755ce. What software do I need to access the cdrom??? Luis Yip lyip@firsol/ml/com Merrill Lynch From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 16 14:21:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13820; Wed, 16 Aug 95 14:21:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24724; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 14:07:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 14:07:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from happy.qualcomm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24712; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 14:07:54 -0400 Received: from gjacobs (gjacobs.qualcomm.com [129.46.122.39]) by happy.qualcomm.com (8.6.12/QC-BSD-2.5) with SMTP id LAA18613 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 11:07:21 -0700 Message-Id: <199508161807.LAA18613@happy.qualcomm.com> X-Sender: gjacobs@wizard X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 11:07:29 -0700 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: "Gary E. Jacobs" Subject: Re: Battery Charger... I thought the 755CE could use the new Litium Ion battery? Would it just not work or would it hurt my thinkpad if I installed it? >Thinkpad 755 CE,CSE,CD -> Can only use the Intelligent Battery Pack II. >Thinkpad 755 CV,CDV -> Can use either the Intelligent Battery Pack II, or > the new Litium Ion battery. It comes standard with the Intelligent > Battery Pack. >Thinkpad 755 CX -> Can use either the Intelligent Pattery Pack II, or > the Litium Ion battery. It comes standard with the Litium Ion > Battery. Gary Jacobs gjacobs@qualcomm.com (619)658-4069 voice (619)658-2120 fax From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 16 17:12:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27417; Wed, 16 Aug 95 17:12:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08586; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 17:00:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 17:00:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08573; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 17:00:19 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id RAA29334; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 17:04:55 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 17:04:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Michael Verne/VENTANA Cc: tp750 Subject: Re: Removing OS2 from my TP750 In-Reply-To: <9508161617.AA2390@LGATE.vmedia.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 16 Aug 1995, Michael Verne/VENTANA wrote: > ".....do *not* delete the boot manager!....." > > It's been my experience that you can delete the boot manager partition, as long > as, when you reformat the primary dos partition, you make it bootable (format > /s). Actually, the primary partition must ALREADY be bootable. What you need to do if you remove the boot manager partition is make the DOS (or whatever) partition _active_ (or startable, some people say). Easy to do from fdisk with the set-active-partition option. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 16 17:12:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27433; Wed, 16 Aug 95 17:12:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08621; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 17:00:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 17:00:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08599; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 17:00:24 -0400 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA28750; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 16:55:47 -0400 Message-Id: <9508162055.AA28750@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: Re: Contact for 3COM PCMCIA promo? To: Tim.z.h.v.f.r.Vetter@ubs.com Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 16:55:47 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: from "Tim.z.h.v.f.r.Vetter@ubs.com" at Aug 16, 95 05:32:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text > Does anyone know if 3COM still has a promotional deal in effect > for their PCMCIA Ethernet cards? Last year they were going > for around $100 via an 800 number; if this is still the case, > can someone please post the number? Yep, the promo is good 'til Sept 30, 1995. $99 for a 10baseT card, $129 for a 10baseT/10base2 (BNC) combo card. Dial 1-800-NET-3COM. I saw the advert in an issue of InfoWorld in late May and ordered a card a couple weeks ago. Works like a charm. -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 16 17:48:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00394; Wed, 16 Aug 95 17:48:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11695; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 17:38:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 17:37:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from houws001.shl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11682; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 17:37:56 -0400 Received: from houmg001.shl.com by houws001.shl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1.8) id AA05341; Wed, 16 Aug 95 16:40:46 CDT Received: by houmg001.shl.com with Microsoft Mail id <30328191@houmg001.shl.com>; Wed, 16 Aug 95 16:38:57 PDT From: NELSON Tim To: TP750 Subject: RE: Installing SCSI disk in TP DOCK I Date: Wed, 16 Aug 95 14:19:00 PDT Message-Id: <30328191@houmg001.shl.com> Encoding: 32 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 RE: FROM: Luis Yip > lyip@firsol/ml/com > Merrill Lynch ---------- > The dock already comes with a CDROM but I can't access it with my tp755ce. > What software do I need to access the cdrom??? Assuming you are using MS-DOS, you need a device driver in your config.sys. You can download the IBMCDROM.SYS driver from IBM, or you can use the Future Domain driver FDCD.SYS (which works great, and is WAY faster). The Future Domain driver is included on the IBM CD-ROM support files disk that came with my CD-ROM for the DOCK I, however, its existence is told only by a one line reference on one of the card inserts, and in a README file that, after a page or so of installation instructions, says "oh by the way, if you want better performance from your CD-ROM, use the FDCD.SYS included in this disk." The installation commands and instructions do the IBMCDROM.SYS only. If you cannot find the FDCD.SYS on your own, you can e-mail me and I will help you find it. ---------------------------------------------------- Timothy Nelson Chief Scientist, SHL Systemhouse Corp. internet: tnelson@shl.com ---------------------------------------------------- PS: I have a 750Ce with a DOCK I and IBM CD-ROM. PC-DOS 6.3, and Windows for Workgroups 3.11. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 16 18:14:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06617; Wed, 16 Aug 95 18:14:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13799; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 18:04:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 18:04:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from asimov.cnam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA13780; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 18:04:11 -0400 Received: from (eronald@localhost) by asimov.cnam.fr id AAA22029 (8.6.12/); Thu, 17 Aug 1995 00:03:56 +0200 From: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 00:03:56 +0200 Message-Id: <199508162203.AAA22029@asimov.cnam.fr> To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Removing OS2 from my TP750 Michael Verne says: It's been my experience that you can delete the boot manager partition, as long as, when you reformat the primary dos partition, you make it bootable (format /s). --------- I think there's no point in removing boot manager - it's ver useful. besides, you don't usually want to reformat the primary, just add to it. Edmund. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 17 08:23:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05615; Thu, 17 Aug 95 08:23:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA14078; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:05:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:04:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA14050; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:04:06 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id IAA12071 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:06:22 -0400 Received: by channel1 (NetXpress 2.02) with UUCP id D70463; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 21:44:31 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Iomega Zip/750c From: akiro@channel1.com (Akiro) Message-Id: <40.1174539.700@channel1.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 21:04:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Subject: Iomega Zip/750c >Assign the Zip Drive on first boot up in DOS. You "can" add it later, >but by doing it in the autoexec.bat file prior to starting smartdrv, >you will cache the ZIP, making it MUCH faster. SO.... >In the autoexec.bat file near the beginning do something like this: >PATH statement............. >cd c:\ziptools >call guest.bat >cd c:\ >smartdrv c+ d+ >etc >etc >win >Be sure the ziptools subdirectory is fully installed on the C Drive, > and run guest.bat FROM that subdirectory. >Of course, the ZIP must be connected and powered when you run the >autoexec.bat file. It doesn't hurt anything to leave the guest.bat >line in place without the ZIP, it will just be passed over. >If you prefer, you can assign the ZIP drive after bootup at any >time by changing to Ziptools subdirectory, and runing guest.bat. >BUT you'll like it much better when it's cached. > Hope this helps, > Richard............. First, thank you for taking the time to respond and help. Here's my problem step by step. I plug in all cables, insert the 100meg disk in the Zip Drive and place the 3.5 diskette in the Thinkpad. From Windows I run Setup from the diskette in the Thinkpad. Everything goes fine and Iomega tells me its going to restart Windows...it exits Windows and stays at the c:\ I then have to start Windows cause Iomega didn't restart it automatically. When I come into Windows Iomega asks me if the 100meg ZipTools disk is in place (it is properly in place) and then Iomega tells me that it can't find the ZipDrive and it's ZipTools. At this point nothing has been installed...no assigned drive letter, no ZipTools, and nothing from the 3.5 diskette. Could you please tell me how you installed it, step by step? Thank You, Akiro From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 17 09:12:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09074; Thu, 17 Aug 95 09:12:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18377; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:02:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:02:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18367; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:01:59 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA14891; Thu, 17 Aug 95 09:02:34 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 95 09:02:34 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508171302.AA14891@nile.gnat.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Warp Connect and THinkpads Just in case someone else gets the runaround from IBM I decided to load Warp COnnect on my TP755CX (anone else who has done this, I would appreciate any tips etc.) Well I was a bit surprised to find I could not buy it on diskettes. I was even more surprised when IBM on the support line (after going to "consult an OS/2 expert" told me that it was not even possible to build diskettes from the CD ROM, that the installation required a CD ROM. I asked him how the %$#@$%#@ was I supposed to do that on my thinkpad, and he told me I had to get a PCMCIA CD ROM [yes -- sure -- there is a very nice Sony CD ROM sitting on my desk, supported only by windows, with Sony saying they will not be making an OS/2 driver]. Well I was really mad, and decided that was it, end of the line for OS/2 (and I am a BIG OS/2 fan!) Well the IBM story was junk, you can indeed make diskettes from the CD ROM, no problem and works fine From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 17 10:23:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12671; Thu, 17 Aug 95 10:23:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23885; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:10:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:10:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23853; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:10:47 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id KAA16648 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:13:00 -0400 Received: by channel1 (NetXpress 2.02) with UUCP id D704E4; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:16:38 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Iomega Zip/750c From: akiro@channel1.com (Akiro) Message-Id: <40.1175753.700@channel1.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:44:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Subject: Re: Iomega Zip/750c >Dear Akiro.... > I can't say exactly why you are having trouble installing >from windows, but I can tell you it is not worth worrying about. >The Windows Ziptools is useless. Just forget it, would be my >advice. If you are willing to do this, the whole thing is simple. > Take the 3.5 floppy, place it in the A drive. Make a >directory on your hard disk called ZIPTOOLS. Then simply copy >all files from the floppy to the hard subdirectory. You are >done. Now you can follow my previous instructions, and it will >appear as you "D" drive. You can now use it as any disk. I use >other tools to backup and copy. the Zip tools will only copy >the ENTIRE hard disk, you can't copy single files or anything >like that. Any DOS or Windows file program will work well, >just log on to that "D" disk like any other, then copy, >back up, etc. > Hope this gets you running. If you still can't make >this little guy sing, I'll give you my phone number and we can >walk through it together. > Richard..... Dear Richard, You were very kind in helping me.....yes your advice WORKED!! I had waited 4 days for a call back from IOMEGA and was a bit discouraged, thank you again for your help. I have just a couple more questions, if I may?! Below is a section of my Autoexec.bat file....should I use the Windows or the DOS smartdrv? What should the numbers after the smartdrv be? How can I get smartdrv to buffer the D drive? ......................................... (snip) C:\ZipTools\Guest.exe rem c:\windows\smartdrv.exe 1024 512 c:\dos\smartdrv.exe 2048 128 (snip) ......................................... Thank You, Akiro From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 17 10:23:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12676; Thu, 17 Aug 95 10:23:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23886; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:10:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:10:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23852; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:10:47 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id KAA16655 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:13:02 -0400 Received: by channel1 (NetXpress 2.02) with UUCP id D704E5; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:16:38 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Iomega Zip/750c From: akiro@channel1.com (Akiro) Message-Id: <40.1175754.700@channel1.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:47:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Subject: Re: Iomega Zip/750c >Dear Akiro.... > I can't say exactly why you are having trouble installing >from windows, but I can tell you it is not worth worrying about. >The Windows Ziptools is useless. Just forget it, would be my >advice. If you are willing to do this, the whole thing is simple. > Take the 3.5 floppy, place it in the A drive. Make a >directory on your hard disk called ZIPTOOLS. Then simply copy >all files from the floppy to the hard subdirectory. You are >done. Now you can follow my previous instructions, and it will >appear as you "D" drive. You can now use it as any disk. I use >other tools to backup and copy. the Zip tools will only copy >the ENTIRE hard disk, you can't copy single files or anything >like that. Any DOS or Windows file program will work well, >just log on to that "D" disk like any other, then copy, >back up, etc. > Hope this gets you running. If you still can't make >this little guy sing, I'll give you my phone number and we can >walk through it together. > Richard..... Dear Richard, You were very kind in helping me.....yes your advice WORKED!! I had waited 4 days for a call back from IOMEGA and was a bit discouraged, thank you again for your help. I have just a couple more questions, if I may?! Below is a section of my Autoexec.bat file....should I use the Windows or the DOS smartdrv? What should the numbers after the smartdrv be? How can I get smartdrv to buffer the D drive? How can I remove the write protect on the 100meg Zip disk? ......................................... (snip) C:\ZipTools\Guest.exe rem c:\windows\smartdrv.exe 1024 512 c:\dos\smartdrv.exe 2048 128 (snip) ......................................... Thank You, Akiro From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 17 10:40:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13560; Thu, 17 Aug 95 10:40:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25268; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:27:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:27:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from www.ezl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25248; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:27:00 -0400 Received: from [206.24.43.12] ([206.24.43.12]) by www.ezl.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA15541; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:35:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199508171435.JAA15541@www.ezl.com> X-Authentication-Warning: www.ezl.com: Host [206.24.43.12] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) From: Kris Williams To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:27:17 EST Reply-To: "Kris D. Williams" Subject: Re: Warp Connect and THinkpads ** Reply to note from dewar@nile.gnat.com 08/17/95 09:02am -0400 > Just in case someone else gets the runaround from IBM > > I decided to load Warp COnnect on my TP755CX (anone else who has done this, > I would appreciate any tips etc.) > > Well I was a bit surprised to find I could not buy it on diskettes. > > I was even more surprised when IBM on the support line (after going to > "consult an OS/2 expert" told me that it was not even possible to build > diskettes from the CD ROM, that the installation required a CD ROM. > > I asked him how the %$#@$%#@ was I supposed to do that on my thinkpad, and > he told me I had to get a PCMCIA CD ROM [yes -- sure -- there is a very > nice Sony CD ROM sitting on my desk, supported only by windows, with Sony > saying they will not be making an OS/2 driver]. > > Well I was really mad, and decided that was it, end of the line for OS/2 (and > I am a BIG OS/2 fan!) > > Well the IBM story was junk, you can indeed make diskettes from the CD ROM, > no problem and works fine Wow! You must have gotten a real genius at the help desk. I've been using the IAK on ThinkPad for a couple of months. Certainly has a few bugs and the mail program sucks big time (I switched to Post Road Mailer which is outstanding). ************************************************************************************* * Kris D. Williams email: krisdw@ezl.com <-- Note my new email address * * * * Instructor/Developer: Mobile Platform Education * * IBM Education and Training * * * * Co-Owner: Incomm "Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior * * * * My opinions are my own. Really they are! * ************************************************************************************* cc: dewar@nile.gnat.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 17 12:40:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22679; Thu, 17 Aug 95 12:40:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13572; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:29:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:29:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from server.txport.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13495; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:29:08 -0400 Received: from d_ramsey (d_ramsey.txport.com) by server.txport.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07037; Thu, 17 Aug 95 11:28:17 CDT Message-Id: <9508171628.AA07037@server.txport.com> X-Sender: dramsey@ro.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:28:18 -0500 To: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) From: dramsey@ro.com (Don Ramsey) Subject: Re: Warp Connect and THinkpads Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > ... snip ... >I asked him how the %$#@$%#@ was I supposed to do that on my thinkpad, and >he told me I had to get a PCMCIA CD ROM [yes -- sure -- there is a very >nice Sony CD ROM sitting on my desk, supported only by windows, with Sony >saying they will not be making an OS/2 driver]. > >Well I was really mad, and decided that was it, end of the line for OS/2 (and >I am a BIG OS/2 fan!) > >Well the IBM story was junk, you can indeed make diskettes from the CD ROM, >no problem and works fine > Robert, I'm glad you got OS/2 to install ok. I wanted to add that you can use (if you have a scsi cdrom available) a Trantor (Adaptec bought 'em) MiniScsi cable to install OS/2 from CDROM. OS/2 installs the PCMCIA drivers too late in the boot process to be able to use PCMCIA stuff to install OS/2. I found that I was able to get the OS/2 drivers from Trantor for their parallel printer cable type of controller (also came with the controller) and was able to modify the OS/2 boot disks to install their driver. With that setup I installed OS/2 Warp from my Toshiba 3401 scsi cdrom. Then, since I have the Adaptec PCMCIA scsi controller, I was able to modify OS/2 Warp after it was installed to use the PCMCIA controller. This gave me a much higher rate of speed for all my scsi devices. The parallel port controller works well but is not very fast. Since you already got OS/2 installed this whole note may be useless to you but I hope you find it somewhat useful for reference. Don. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 17 15:02:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06205; Thu, 17 Aug 95 15:02:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07682; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:47:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:47:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mik.uky.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07642; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:47:20 -0400 Received: from nx20.mik.uky.edu by mik.uky.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA28887; Thu, 17 Aug 95 14:47:14 -0400 Message-Id: <9508171847.AA28887@mik.uky.edu> Received: by nx20.mik.uky.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0X) id AA10778; Thu, 17 Aug 95 14:47:11 -0400 From: rdslon01@mik.uky.edu (rodney d slone) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:47:10 -0400 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: eranian@chorus.fr, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Linux kernel 1.1.89 && XF86 3.1.2 Does the kernel version I am using affect the XF86_SVGA ? Can someone send me their XF86Config for a Thinkpad 360CSE with a dual scan monitor? The X -probeonly makes my screen go wild, and I must reboot to get it back. How do I combat this? Where can I get more information? I would like to run it in 800x600. I have 1024 ram and it apparently is all recognized. Thanks for amy and all help. I just bought the laptop and so far I really like it. I just want to get X running now. Later, -- Rodney Daryl Slone | "Grounds are pretty common." - me Electrical Engineering Senior | Nail here [] for a new monitor. University of Kentucky / 94.3% of all statistics are 87% worthless. e-mail: rdslon01@mik.uky.edu | Xerox never comes up with anything original. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 17 15:31:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08713; Thu, 17 Aug 95 15:31:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15378; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 15:23:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 15:23:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA15356; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 15:23:08 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA01816; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 15:22:45 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 15:22:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: rodney d slone Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Linux kernel 1.1.89 && XF86 3.1.2 In-Reply-To: <9508171847.AA28887@mik.uky.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 17 Aug 1995, rodney d slone wrote: > Does the kernel version I am using affect the XF86_SVGA ? > Can someone send me their XF86Config for a Thinkpad 360CSE with a dual scan > monitor? Try http://peipa.essex.ac.uk/tp-linux/tp-linux.html It has XF86Config files for the TP755CS which should be the same dual scan as your 360CSE. > The X -probeonly makes my screen go wild, and I must reboot to get it > back. How do I combat this? I wasn't even able to get this to work on my TP750 mono, which doesn't have the complication of dual-scan. I had to generate the file manually with the help of the above site. Speaking of XF86 3.1.2, I tried it and it complained that it wanted more current libc and libm files (I have the slackware 2.3 distribution, 1.2.8 kernel). I got those and installed them. It came up beautifully, but then most of the X apps I tried (everything except xeyes and xterm) complained they couldn't understand the new lib files. So I went back to 3.1.1. Did I mess up somewhere, or is this going to be a problem until new versions of all these X apps are released? ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Aug 17 16:19:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12144; Thu, 17 Aug 95 16:19:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28352; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:13:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:13:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from namaste.cc.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28332; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:13:33 -0400 Received: by namaste.cc.columbia.edu id AA27783 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU); Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:13:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:13:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Paulo Magalhaes X-Sender: pm119@namaste.cc.columbia.edu To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Warp flavours Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! I realize that this question is not exactly TP specific, but bear with me, since this is the only list from which I learn this kind of stuff :) What are the differences between Warp and Warp Connect? I'm thinking of upgrading from OS2 2.1, and I would like to get as much info about this as possible. Thanks for your help. Paulo From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 17 18:11:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19335; Thu, 17 Aug 95 18:11:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28029; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 17:59:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 17:59:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.cs.utexas.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28018; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 17:59:30 -0400 Received: from darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (mschaef@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.143.204]) by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA06444; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:59:25 -0500 Received: by darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/Client-v1.4) id QAA61212; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:59:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:59:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Schaeffer To: Paulo Magalhaes Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Warp flavours In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 17 Aug 1995, Paulo Magalhaes wrote: > What are the differences between Warp and Warp Connect? If I get flamed for this as OS advocacy on the Thinkpad list... :-( The big differences between Warp and Warp Connect is that Connect has all of the latest fixpacks applied, and Warp Connect comes with some networking software. More specifically: - The converged MPTS stack - LS 4.0 Requester - OS/2 Peer - TCP/IP 3.0 - Lotus Notes Express -Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 02:38:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28438; Fri, 18 Aug 95 02:38:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29066; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 02:20:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 02:19:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from duvi.eskom.co.za by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29052; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 02:19:45 -0400 Received: from netman.eskom.co.za by duvi.eskom.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sjKkY-0001bCC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:17 RSA Received: from MP2NFS02/SpoolDir by netman.eskom.co.za (Mercury 1.21); 18 Aug 95 08:17:50 GMT+2 Received: from SpoolDir by MP2NFS02 (Mercury 1.21); 18 Aug 95 08:17:25 GMT+2 From: "Richard Ellerbrock" Organization: ESKOM Information Technology To: Mike Schaeffer , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:17:20 GMT+2 Subject: Re: Warp flavours Reply-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Confirm-Reading-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <4787E315400@netman.eskom.co.za> > The big differences between Warp and Warp Connect is that Connect has all > of the latest fixpacks applied, and Warp Connect comes with some > networking software. More specifically: > > - The converged MPTS stack > - LS 4.0 Requester > - OS/2 Peer > - TCP/IP 3.0 > - Lotus Notes Express Don't forget that the Novell requester is included too. -- richarde@netman.eskom.co.za Richard Ellerbrock (ECNE) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 02:48:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29391; Fri, 18 Aug 95 02:48:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29836; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 02:36:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 02:36:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA29814; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 02:36:48 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id CAA19429 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 02:39:04 -0400 Received: by channel1 (NetXpress 2.02) with UUCP id D705CB; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 00:52:18 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Iomega Zip/750c From: akiro@channel1.com (Akiro) Message-Id: <40.1177799.700@channel1.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 00:22:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Subject: Re: Iomega Zip/750c >> Below is a section of my Autoexec.bat file....should I use the Windows >> or the DOS smartdrv? What should the numbers after the smartdrv be? >> How can I get smartdrv to buffer the D drive? >> >> ......................................... >> (snip) >> C:\ZipTools\Guest.exe >> rem c:\windows\smartdrv.exe 1024 512 >> c:\dos\smartdrv.exe 2048 128 >> (snip) >> ......................................... >I'd suggest using whichever smartdrv is later. If you have at least >version 5.0, then you can ask it to read and write cache your >drives. It is a much safer version than 4.x's. Beg or borrow the >newer one if you don't have it. The newest one I have is dated 11-17-94 Is this the newest one? >path statement..... >etc... >cd c:\ziptools >guest.exe >cd c:\ >c:\dos\smartdrv.exe c+ d+ /u 1028 512 >rem the /u prevents loading the CD-ROM cache if you don't need it. >etc... >If you are using WFWG with 32 bit file and disk access, then the 512 >number should be 128 or even 0, otherwise it depends on how much >memory you are using, since it prevents windows from using it for >anything but cache. Make it bigger if you have over 8 Megs. I'm running WFWG 3.11 and using 32bit disk access. I have 12 megs of ram. What should the two sets of numbers be? >After booting up, you can check how smartdrv came out by >going to the DOS prompt (not a dos window) and writing >smartdrv /s After doing so I got the following: room for 128 elements of 8,192 bytes each there has been 5,733 cache hits and 2,545 cache misses cache size 1,048,576 bytes Does this look ok? Thank you Richard, Akiro From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 06:15:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15351; Fri, 18 Aug 95 06:15:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA20185; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 06:07:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 06:07:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA20175; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 06:07:03 -0400 From: Received: from octave.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:13:59 +0200 Received: by octave.chorus.fr; Fri, 18 Aug 95 11:13:58 +0200 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 11:13:58 +0200 Message-Id: <9508180913.AA02746@octave.chorus.fr> To: rdslon01@mik.uky.edu Subject: Re: Linux kernel 1.1.89 && XF86 3.1.2 Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > > Does the kernel version I am using affect the XF86_SVGA ? I don't know. I am personaly using 1.2.13 (same with 1.3.17) with no particular problem ! > Can someone send me their XF86Config for a Thinkpad 360CSE with a dual scan > monitor? The only difference I noticed from previous version comes from the way the screen is reset when exiting X. The 3.1.2 now fully supports WD90C24 which is the chipset I have in my 360CSE. > The X -probeonly makes my screen go wild, and I must reboot to get it > back. How do I combat this? > Where can I get more information? Anyway, you can get useful information from the README.WstDig in the doc directory under /usr/X11R6. It explains the differents settings for WD90C24 cards. If you want to access this resolution however, you still need to run the PS2.exe command under DOS to active "high performance mode" for display (remember my previous mail on this list). For the LCD display, you still need Michael Steiner's tpdualscan program to hide the upper 512MB of RAM. Here my .xinitrc that starts everything: $ cat .xinitrc tpdualscan -d xrefresh fvwm& exec rxvt -8 -font fixed > I would like to run it in 800x600. I have 1024 ram and it apparently is all > recognized. You're talking of 800x600 on the external CRT ? The XF86Config I enclosed at the end of this mail does have the required parameter from this resolution. There are commented in because not usable on the LCD display. > Thanks for amy and all help. I just bought the laptop and so far I really > like it. I just want to get X running now. It is nice (even thought I just have 4MB of RAM). But it does not seems so robust. I am currently using my third motherboard after 2 failures ! -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- # $XFree86: xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/XF86Conf.cpp,v 3.6 1994/09/26 15:30:19 dawes Exp $ # # Copyright (c) 1994 by The XFree86 Project, Inc. # # Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a # copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), # to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation # the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, # and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the # Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: # # The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in # all copies or substantial portions of the Software. # # THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR # IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, # FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL # THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, # WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF # OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE # SOFTWARE. # # Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall # not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other # dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the # XFree86 Project. # # ********************************************************************** # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of # this file. This man page is installed as /usr/X11R6/man/man5/XF86Config.5x # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set # ********************************************************************** Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together), # as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath # command (or a combination of both methods) FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Server flags section. # ********************************************************************** Section "ServerFlags" # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is # received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging # NoTrapSignals # Uncomment this to disable the server abort sequence # DontZap EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Input devices # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Keyboard section # ********************************************************************** Section "Keyboard" Protocol "Standard" # when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the # following line # Protocol "Xqueue" AutoRepeat 500 5 ServerNumLock # Specifiy which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) # Xleds 1 2 3 # To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift, # RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock: LeftAlt Meta # RightAlt ModeShift # RightCtl Compose # ScrollLock ModeLock EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Pointer section # ********************************************************************** Section "Pointer" Protocol "PS/2" Device "/dev/mouse" # Actually a symbolic link to /dev/psaux # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment # the following line. # Protocol "Xqueue" # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice # BaudRate 9600 # SampleRate 150 # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice Emulate3Buttons # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice # ChordMiddle EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Monitor section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of monitor sections may be present Section "Monitor" Identifier "Generic Monitor" VendorName "Unknown" ModelName "Unknown" # Bandwidth is in MHz unless units are specified # Bandwidth 25.2 # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. HorizSync 20-40 # for LCD display # HorizSync 48.08 # HSync for 800x600 CRT # HorizSync 35.6 # 1024x768 CRT # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. VertRefresh 60-70 # for LCD display # VertRefresh 72.19 # for 800x600 CRT # VertRefresh 87.15 # for 1024x768 CRT # Modes can be specified in two formats. A compact one-line format, or # a multi-line format. # A generic VGA 640x480 mode (hsync = 31.5kHz, refresh = 60Hz) # These two are equivalent # name clock horizontal timing vertical timing flags ModeLine "640x480" 28.3 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525 #CRT/LCD # VESA 800x600@72Hz Non-Interlaced mode ModeLine "800x600.50" 50 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync # 1024x768 Interlaced mode ModeLine "1024x768i" 45 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 +hsync +vsync Interlace EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Graphics device section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of graphics device sections may be present Section "Device" # SVGA server auto-detected chipset Identifier "Generic SVGA" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" Chipset "wd90c24" videoRam 1024 option "med_dram" # I am not sure the option is useful Clocks 25.175 28.322 65 36 # These are *not* programmable Clocks 29.979 77.408 62.195 59.957 # these are programmable Clocks 31.5 35.501 75.166 50.114 # these are *not* programmable Clocks 39.822 72.038 44.744 80.092 # these are programmable Clocks 44.297 # Change this if you change # Mclk above. EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Screen sections # ********************************************************************** # The colour SVGA server Section "Screen" Driver "svga" Device "Generic SVGA" Monitor "Generic Monitor" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "640x480" # Modes "1024x768i" "800x600.50" "640x480" # use this for CRT ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 640 480 # Virtual 800 600 # use this for 800x600 EndSubsection EndSection From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 08:47:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23030; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:47:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27132; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:33:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:33:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA27119; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:33:08 -0400 Received: from qmgate (qmgate.maplesoft.on.ca) by wildecho.maplesoft.on.ca with SMTP id AA02053 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:32:54 -0400 Message-Id: Date: 18 Aug 1995 08:30:56 -0800 From: "Edmond Bourne" Subject: None To: "thinkpad" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Waterloo Maple Software None subscribe cheers ed bourne From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 11:32:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07795; Fri, 18 Aug 95 11:32:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12136; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:23:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:23:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from namaste.cc.columbia.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12095; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:23:24 -0400 Received: by namaste.cc.columbia.edu id AA14440 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU); Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:23:18 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:23:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Paulo Magalhaes X-Sender: pm119@namaste.cc.columbia.edu To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Warp thanks Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just a big public thank you to all who provided explanations. Paulo From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 11:34:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07827; Fri, 18 Aug 95 11:34:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12228; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:24:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:24:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12212; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:24:21 -0400 From: Received: from octave.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 17:24:11 +0200 Received: by octave.chorus.fr; Fri, 18 Aug 95 17:24:10 +0200 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 17:24:10 +0200 Message-Id: <9508181524.AA08972@octave.chorus.fr> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 3Com PCMCIA Card Promo Hello, A few days ago, someone posted information about a promotion on 3Com PCMCIA Ethernet Card. Can you give me some more information. For which model of Card is it ? Is it still valid ? How can I order from France ? Thanks for your help ! -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 11:54:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08933; Fri, 18 Aug 95 11:54:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13953; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:45:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:45:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13930; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:45:06 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA05218; Fri, 18 Aug 95 11:45:36 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 11:45:36 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508181545.AA05218@nile.gnat.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: WARP + Thinkpad query I don't know if this is WARP or TP, but I first noticed it in upgrading to a new thinkpad. I find now that disk activity in a background window is tending to lockout keyboard input in a foreground window, sometimes for as long as several seconds. Similarly, window repositioning and redrawing is painfully slow if there is fierce disk activity in the background. I changed to PRIORITY_DISK_IO=NO but this has no effect. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 12:04:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09909; Fri, 18 Aug 95 12:04:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14953; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:55:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:55:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tequesta.gate.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14933; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:55:39 -0400 Received: from navajo.gate.net (jbush@navajo.gate.net [199.227.0.15]) by tequesta.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA49451 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:54:12 -0400 Received: (from jbush@localhost) by navajo.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA55995; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:54:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:54:30 -0400 (EDT) From: James Bush To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: cdrom In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII any suggestions for a cdrom with a tp755ce ? prefer scsi drive thanks jamie From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 12:28:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10841; Fri, 18 Aug 95 12:28:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17036; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 12:20:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 12:19:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gar.uhc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17023; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 12:19:52 -0400 Received: from muskie.uhc.com by gar.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA11250; Mon, 18 Aug 2025 11:19:20 -0500 Received: by muskie.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA60551; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:18:13 -0500 From: rol@muskie.uhc.com (Roleigh Martin) Message-Id: <9508181618.AA60551@muskie.uhc.com> Subject: anyone have 755CDV/CV notebook To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (IBM 750 newsgroup) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:18:13 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is the 755 CDV/CV notebook with the "see through" screen available at any dealers nationwide? What prices are being charged (street wise) for it? Anyone have one? Any comments? Any dealer pointers? Thanks! please email replies to Mark Tanen at mtanen@uhc.com as I'm going on vacation. -- Roleigh Martin, Rt. MN06-6130 Opinions are mine not UHC | UHC, Advanced Technology AT&T/vmail: (612) 945-6529| 9705 Data Park Drive FAX: (612) 945-6502| Minnetonka, MN 55343 Email: rol@lochness.uhc.com| ** B'days are good for health ** Statistics show that people with most b'days live the longest When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 13:06:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13046; Fri, 18 Aug 95 13:06:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20252; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 12:55:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 12:54:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blackhole.fultech.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20207; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 12:54:45 -0400 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by blackhole.fultech.com (8.6.7/8.6.6) id MAA02153 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 12:53:00 -0400 Received: from jade.fultech.com(198.53.221.47) by internet via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma002149; Fri Aug 18 12:52:32 1995 Received: from omega.fultech.com by jade.fultech.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03304; Fri, 18 Aug 95 12:54:50 EDT Received: by omega.fultech.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01767; Fri, 18 Aug 95 12:54:48 EDT Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 12:54:48 EDT From: scottn@fultech.com (Scott Newman) Message-Id: <9508181654.AA01767@omega.fultech.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: native CD-ROM access with Win95 on 755CD I have installed Win95 pre-release 2 on my TP755CD. Everything is working as far as I can tell, but I notice that my CD drive is running in "MS-DOS compatibility mode". From what I read in IBM's tpwin95 document, it sounds like Win95 should automatically recognize the CD-ROM drive and use the native support automatically. However, if I don't load IBMTPCD.SYS (and MSCDEX), Win95 doesn't see and can't find the drive (when asked to look for new hardware). I believe I've followed the directions in the tpwin95 document and I am running the v1.30 system. Any suggestions? Thanks! Scott From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 14:04:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16785; Fri, 18 Aug 95 14:04:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24268; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:48:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:48:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tequesta.gate.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24257; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:48:06 -0400 Received: from seminole.gate.net (jbush@seminole.gate.net [199.227.0.14]) by tequesta.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA49929 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:46:42 -0400 Received: (from jbush@localhost) by seminole.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA83196; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:43:43 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:43:43 -0400 (EDT) From: James Bush To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: cdrom adddendum Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII any suggestions for a cdrom with a tp755ce ? prefer scsi drive thanks jamie forgot to mention, function under an os/2 warp environment, please jamie From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 14:17:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17449; Fri, 18 Aug 95 14:17:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25649; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:06:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:06:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uranus.ubs.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA25637; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:06:43 -0400 From: Received: by uranus.ubs.com; id UAA16411; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 20:04:46 +0200 Received: from unknown(137.156.150.131) by uranus.ubs.com via smap (g3.0.1) id sma016409; Fri, 18 Aug 95 20:04:44 +0200 Received: from by sv400net.flur.zuerich.ubs.ch with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA073599163; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 20:06:03 +0200 X-Openmail-Hops: 2 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 20:05:21 +0200 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9508181524.AA08972@octave.chorus.fr> Subject: Re: 3Com PCMCIA Card Promo To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU TO: eranian@chorus.fr ....................................................................... St'ephane Eranian wrote: > Can you give me some more information. For which model of Card is it ? > Is it still valid ? How can I order from France ? I don't quite remember the model of the card ... 3C7509 or something like that. Anyway, I can relate my experience on ordering the same card from Germany last year. The promo was only being run out of the US HQ, but they had no objections to shipping overseas to anyone with a valid credit card. However, because you can't normally dial a US 1-800 number from continental Europe, I had to call the normal (non-toll-free) corporate switchboard number and navigate through a maze of people who knew nothing about the deal, until finally I ended up with someone at the Promotions Department who took my order. Maybe this will save you a bit of time. (Sorry, don't have the corporate HQ number anymore, but you should be able to get it from a US computer magazine). Good luck, Tim --- Tim Vetter tim.vetter@ubs.com (preferred, ASCII) vfr@stm537.ubszh.net.ch (MIME, NEXTMAIL) Forex & Fixed Income Trading Development Union Bank of Switzerland voice: (+41) 1/2357921 fax: (+41) 1/2368392 snailmail: LEIT/LITH-VFR Postfach 8021 Zurich, Switzerland ....................................................................... Item Subject: Attachment Modes 644 Re: 3Com PCMCIA Card Promo 600 Attachment Modes From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 14:47:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19762; Fri, 18 Aug 95 14:47:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28011; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:37:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:37:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tin by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28001; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:37:48 -0400 Received: from WOODS.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by tin (5.65/Monsanto1.7) id AA25365; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:33:31 -0500 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:33:31 -0500 Message-Id: <9508181833.AA25365@tin> From: snmauf@elm.monsanto.com (Simon Maufe, Monsanto CROP IT, V2K, 4-3207) To: TIN"tp750@CS.UTK.EDU"@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: flight simulator/vesa/TP755CSE I have a thinkpad 755CSE with that well known business graphics application - Microsoft Flight Simulator V5.0. Works fine in VGA mode and sound is superb. When I try and configure FS5 to be SVGA it asks what vidoeboard I have, thee are about 5 choices, things like VESA 1.2, Trident, TSENG etc. If I select VESA 1.2 the screen goes to junk and the game won't run. So I called IBM, they say the VESA is in the hardware, but is 1.01 and not 1.2 compatible. So I looked at the Microsoft knowledge base to see if they have any drivers for the Western Digital chip that used in the TP755s. No joy. Anybody got FS5/SVGA working on a thinkpad? I'm going to cross post this to the flight-sim newsgroup and will send out an answer later. Thanks ! Simon ///************************************************************************** // /// Simon Maufe ||| MAUFE@TWEETY.DIGSYS.COM // /// Daugherty Systems ||| 314-432-8200 office // /// St Louis ||| 314-257-8018 home // /// ||| 314-694-3207 client office // /// All opinions and thoughts are mine and not those of my employer or client / /// Use anything in here at your own risk \\\ \\\************************************************************************** \\ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 14:50:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19789; Fri, 18 Aug 95 14:50:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28480; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:42:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:42:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA28462; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:42:55 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id OAA05288; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:47:32 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:47:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: James Bush Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: cdrom In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 18 Aug 1995, James Bush wrote: > any suggestions for a cdrom with a tp755ce ? prefer scsi drive I have a Panasonic that came with a PCMCIA SCSI card. It has an ASPI driver thant allowd me to use another CD w/o a problem, but didn't hold up to the punishment a SCSI tape unit (HP) gave it. That could be a tape drive problem or an imperfect driver problem. (Does anyone know of any software that will test an ASPI driver for functionality?) I have not tried other products on it yet, but I intend to try a Nikon Slide Scanner in the near future. My extended comments on the dvice can be found on http://www.shadow.net/~dwhite/thinkpad.html ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 15:03:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21152; Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:03:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29204; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:53:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:53:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29193; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:53:20 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id OAA07965; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:58:06 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:58:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Tim.z.h.v.f.r.Vetter@ubs.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 3Com PCMCIA Card Promo In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 18 Aug 1995 Tim.z.h.v.f.r.Vetter@ubs.com wrote: > St'ephane Eranian wrote: > > > Can you give me some more information. For which model of Card is it ? > > Is it still valid ? How can I order from France ? > > I don't quite remember the model of the card ... 3C7509 or something like that. > Anyway, I can relate my experience on ordering the same card from > Germany last year. The promo was only being run out of the US HQ, > but they had no objections to shipping overseas to anyone with a valid > credit card. However, because you can't normally dial a US 1-800 number > from continental Europe, I had to call the normal (non-toll-free) corporate > switchboard number and navigate through a maze of people who knew > nothing about the deal, until finally I ended up with someone at the > Promotions Department who took my order. Maybe this will save you > a bit of time. (Sorry, don't have the corporate HQ number anymore, but > you should be able to get it from a US computer magazine). Or, you could fax to the promo dept directly (I just ordered one, got # while I was on the phone w/ them.... you all owe me big. send me some non-american beer.) Fax: 319-369-5833 Provide them with: Name Company name Address City/state/country/zip|postal code Phone number fax number credit card info (including experation) or purchase order info. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 15:14:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21781; Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:14:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00628; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:04:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:04:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA00614; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:04:34 -0400 Received: from bnme (bnme.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.152.138]) by cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA00533; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:03:28 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:03:28 -0400 Message-Id: <199508181903.PAA00533@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov> X-Sender: bnm@cosmail2.ctd.ornl.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: James Bush , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: "Brooks N. McNeely" Subject: Re: cdrom adddendum At 01:43 PM 8/18/95 -0400, James Bush wrote: > >any suggestions for a cdrom with a tp755ce ? prefer scsi drive > >forgot to mention, function under an os/2 warp environment, please > >jamie > I got an IBM PCMCIA SCSI adapter which came with OS/2 drivers. It cost around $250 with tax and shipping. I just unhook my external CDROM from my desktop system and use it mostly to install new software on my TP755C. Several other vendors offer similar products, but I'm not sure about driver support. With this configuration I can attached several different SCSI devices including a CDROM, and I should be able to use them simultaneously (eg tape drive, external hard drive, R/W optical, etc). I've only used a CDROM thus far. Several negatives which were common to most competitive products: 1. Could not use CDROM to install Warp. Someone earlier proclaimed that this was not possible with PCMCIA SCSI, but I doubt this assertion. The Warp install includes two diskettes which boot Warp initially, then everything else is installed from the CDROM. These two diskettes are pretty full, so IBM limits the device support here because it can't put all the various drivers needed to support more esoteric configurations. I believe that I could copy the boot diskettes, add the appropriate drivers manually, edit CONFIG.SYS manually, and install Warp from the CDROM. I haven't had any need to reinstall Warp (still running great), so I haven't verified this claim. 2. There are restrictions on system use when running with the adapter. Among these, you can't "hot-swap" or insert the card and use it without a system reboot. Also I know hibernation won't work with the PCMCIA card inserted - I'm not sure about suspension, but I don't think it works either. My problem with competitive products was the reluctance of the vendors or resellers to guarantee the products would work with OS/2. Most often they just didn't know or weren't sure, and would make vague statements like, "I _think_ it works with OS/2, but I'm not sure about Warp" or "We're working on OS/2 drivers and they should be shipping any day". Hope this helps, Brooks McNeely From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 15:33:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23011; Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:33:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02726; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:25:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:25:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02708; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:25:20 -0400 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA27371; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:20:49 -0400 Message-Id: <9508181920.AA27371@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: Re: 3Com PCMCIA Card Promo To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:20:49 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "Don Whiteside" at Aug 18, 95 02:58:06 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text > On Fri, 18 Aug 1995 Tim.z.h.v.f.r.Vetter@ubs.com wrote: > > I don't quite remember the model of the card ... 3C7509 or something like that. FWIW, the card is the 3C589B. Very nice little card. -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 15:36:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23211; Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:36:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02990; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:28:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:28:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA02975; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:28:19 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA13310; Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:28:18 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:28:18 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508181928.AA13310@nile.gnat.com> To: bnm@ornl.gov, jbush@gate.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: cdrom adddendum does anyone know if it is possible to get the Sony CD ROM to run on the Thinkpad, possibly by using some laternative PCMIA card. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 16:01:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24887; Fri, 18 Aug 95 16:01:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05757; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:53:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:53:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05746; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:53:10 -0400 Received: from [128.125.222.155] (comserv-e-11.usc.edu [128.125.222.155]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id MAA03450; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 12:52:59 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 12:59:23 -0700 To: , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: 3Com PCMCIA Card Promo At 8:05 PM 8/18/95, wrote: >TO: eranian@chorus.fr > >....................................................................... > >St'ephane Eranian wrote: > >> Can you give me some more information. For which model of Card is it ? >> Is it still valid ? How can I order from France ? > >I don't quite remember the model of the card ... 3C7509 or something like that. 3C589 actually--but I don't think it matters, since its the only PCMCIA Ethernet card they make. :) ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 16:26:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26691; Fri, 18 Aug 95 16:26:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07370; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 16:10:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 16:10:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kobra.efd.lth.se by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA07339; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 16:10:39 -0400 Received: from efd.lth.se (f91el@saturnus-3 [130.235.41.13]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id WAA15867; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 22:10:24 +0200 Message-Id: <199508182010.WAA15867@kobra.efd.lth.se> To: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, f91el@efd.lth.se Subject: Re: WARP + Thinkpad query In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:45:36 EDT." <9508181545.AA05218@nile.gnat.com> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 22:10:23 +0200 From: Erik Lindahl Well, I must say that Warp is just fine on my TP750C... You could try using PRIORITY=ABSOLUTE in the config.sys This gives OS/2 a more unix-like behaviour in multitasking. But I'd suggest you change back PRIORITY_DISK_IO to yes... Otherwise you will feel that the system is very slow loading apps. (But it _should_ multitask quite OK even with the factory settings...) Regards, Erik From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 16:43:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28600; Fri, 18 Aug 95 16:43:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09685; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 16:35:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 16:35:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09668; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 16:35:16 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA1465; Sat, 19 Aug 95 16:30:23 -0400 Message-Id: <9508192030.AA1465@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 47E40B844C8492808525621C006F4EB6; Sat, 19 Aug 95 16:30:19 To: dwhite , tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 18 Aug 95 16:27:32 Subject: Re: SCSI tape Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain "...I have a Panasonic that came with a PCMCIA SCSI card. It has an ASPI driver thant allowd me to use another CD w/o a problem, but didn't hold up to the punishment a SCSI tape unit (HP) gave it. That could be a tape drive problem or an imperfect driver problem. (Does anyone know of any software that will test an ASPI driver for functionality?) I have not...." ~~~~~~~~~~ I don't know of an ASPI compatability test, but I've always been told to use the one that comes with the card, not the device. Also, I got a tip the other day that may help you with the tape problem. If your tape drive is SCSI I (which I believe all of them still are), and your card is SCSI II (which it must be or you wouldn't get the smaller connector), your card is probably set to 10Mb/s internal xfer rate, which SCSI I devices can't handle. We were unwittingly doing this on one of our file servers, but by bumping the SCSI xfer rate down to 5Mb/s, the tape drive could handle the I/O flow & stopped crashing. It was actually the tape drive that couldn't keep up with the card. Since 5Mb/s is faster than a CD rom can move data, you won't lose any performa nce. Michael J. Verne michael_verne@vmedia.com Systems Analyst, Ventana Communications Group, Inc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 16:43:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28611; Fri, 18 Aug 95 16:43:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09815; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 16:37:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 16:37:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA09788; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 16:37:17 -0400 Received: from mailhost.hooked.net (chum.hooked.net [199.2.134.20]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA17705 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:37:03 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:37:03 -0700 Message-Id: <199508182037.NAA17705@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse montrose Subject: quickest way to get 220v power adapter and spare battery? I'm leaving for Malaysia next week for a few weeks.. Anyone know who could get me a 220v adapter and spare battery the quickest? ____________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 16:55:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29671; Fri, 18 Aug 95 16:55:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10597; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 16:46:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 16:46:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from orpheus.amdahl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10585; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 16:46:27 -0400 Received: from cessna.oes.amdahl.com by orpheus.amdahl.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjYJ1-00053aC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 13:46 PDT Received: by cessna.oes.amdahl.com (5.0/SMI-4.1/DNS) id AA11442; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:46:35 +0800 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:46:35 +0800 From: lenj@oes.amdahl.com (Len Jacobson) Message-Id: <9508182046.AA11442@cessna.oes.amdahl.com> To: bnm@ornl.gov, jbush@gate.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, dewar@nile.gnat.com Subject: Re: cdrom adddendum X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII I have successfully used the Sony PRD 150 (the one WITHOUT the sound box) on my TP750C. The standard PCMCIA card that comes with it suffices. The sound is so-so. And it's not the fastest thing in the world. But it works. One comparison statistics on speed: I loaded Borland C++ from a CD and it took about 65 minutes. On my (Pentium 100 MHz) desktop, using a 4X Toshiba CD-ROM, it took (if I remember correctly) just under 20 minutes -- maybe even less. Len Jacobson > From @amdahl.uts.amdahl.com:owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 12:58 PDT 1995 > X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:28:21 EDT > Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:28:18 -0400 > From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) > To: bnm@ornl.gov, jbush@gate.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > Subject: Re: cdrom adddendum > > does anyone know if it is possible to get the Sony CD ROM to run on the > Thinkpad, possibly by using some laternative PCMIA card. > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 18 18:24:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09231; Fri, 18 Aug 95 18:24:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17548; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 18:15:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 18:15:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from orpheus.amdahl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17537; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 18:15:22 -0400 Received: from cessna.oes.amdahl.com by orpheus.amdahl.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sjZh5-00054KC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 15:15 PDT Received: by cessna.oes.amdahl.com (5.0/SMI-4.1/DNS) id AA11478; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:15:18 +0800 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:15:18 +0800 From: lenj@oes.amdahl.com (Len Jacobson) Message-Id: <9508182215.AA11478@cessna.oes.amdahl.com> To: bnm@ornl.gov, jbush@gate.net, lenj@oes.amdahl.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, dewar@nile.gnat.com Subject: Re: cdrom adddendum X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Negative. PC-DOS 7.0 + Windows 3.11 Len > From dewar@nile.gnat.com Fri Aug 18 14:19 PDT 1995 > Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 17:19:31 -0400 > From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) > To: bnm@ornl.gov, jbush@gate.net, lenj@oes.amdahl.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > Subject: Re: cdrom adddendum > > did you use WARP (I forgot to add this annoying extra condition :-) > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Aug 19 12:54:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16665; Sat, 19 Aug 95 12:54:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14794; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 12:42:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 12:42:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14768; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 12:42:19 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id MAA27669; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 12:47:06 -0400 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 12:47:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: jesse montrose Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: quickest way to get 220v power adapter and spare battery? In-Reply-To: <199508182037.NAA17705@mom.hooked.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 18 Aug 1995, jesse montrose wrote: > I'm leaving for Malaysia next week for a few weeks.. Anyone know who could > get me a 220v adapter and spare battery the quickest? I ordered the TP AC adaptor from PC Direct (someone have the number handy? I _think_ it's 1-800-PS2-4YOU) for $55 and had it in a week, which included 4th of July. You can ask for overnight shipping. It's great to travel with, too, since it's only marginally bigger than a pack of cigarettes, has a LONG adaptor<-->'pad cord and is autoswitching. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Aug 19 13:13:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17537; Sat, 19 Aug 95 13:13:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15890; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 13:08:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 13:08:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15879; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 13:08:42 -0400 Received: from mailhost.hooked.net (bass.hooked.net [199.2.134.18]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA27589 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 10:08:40 -0700 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 10:08:40 -0700 Message-Id: <199508191708.KAA27589@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse montrose Subject: Re: quickest way to get 220v power adapter and spare battery? At 12:47 PM 8/19/95 -0400, Don Whiteside wrote: >I ordered the TP AC adaptor from PC Direct (someone have the number >handy? I _think_ it's 1-800-PS2-4YOU) for $55 and had it in a week, which >included 4th of July. You can ask for overnight shipping. > >It's great to travel with, too, since it's only marginally bigger than a >pack of cigarettes, has a LONG adaptor<-->'pad cord and is autoswitching. Cool, thanks.. I'll call 'em.. ____________________________________________________________________ jesse montrose http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Aug 19 16:20:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29074; Sat, 19 Aug 95 16:20:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26656; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 16:13:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 16:13:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26646; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 16:13:36 -0400 Received: from scunix4.harvard.edu by husc.harvard.edu with SMTP; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 16:13:34 -0400 Message-Id: <199508192013.QAA10143@husc.harvard.edu> Received: from dial1-29.cybercom.net by scunix4.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA26106; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 16:16:26 -0400 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 16:16:26 -0400 X-Sender: dchan@mail.cybercom.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: "Derek V. Chan" Subject: IDE drive in Dock II Hi all. I'm trying to install another IDE drive into the Dock II. I set it as a slave drive. However, the drive installation programs says that I need to change jumpers on the existing IDE drive. Anyone know how to do this on the thinkpad drive? I' m using a thinkpad 750c/340 mb ide internal drive. Thanks. P.S. the IDE i'm installing is a syquest ez135 (yeah i'm beta testing it, so if anyone else can help...) Also...where does one get the special mounting rails for the drive bay? My syquest is just sorta "sitting" in the bay, but it's not actually mounted... -- "Women...can't live with 'em, can't kill 'em..." -- Tom Arnold (True Lies) Derek V. Chan dchan@cybercom.net chan4@fas.harvard.edu <-- going down on August 18, 1995 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 20 14:49:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19379; Sun, 20 Aug 95 14:49:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10887; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 14:35:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 14:35:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA10877; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 14:35:54 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA04366; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 14:35:02 -0400 Date: Sun, 20 Aug 1995 14:34:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Linux & 800x600 LCDs Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I ran across this site, apparently by one of the folks working on the WD90C24 SVGA drivers for Linux/XFree86. I browsed through it and it appears to have explicit instructions and examples for getting XFree86 3.1.2 working with 800x600 LCDs. Give it a shot, report back to us. http://www.castle.net:80/~darin/#WD90C24 ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 20 15:29:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21750; Sun, 20 Aug 95 15:29:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13953; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 15:20:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 15:20:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA13933; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 15:20:18 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA04395; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 15:19:29 -0400 Date: Sun, 20 Aug 1995 15:19:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP Memory source Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I found this too. They seem to have a good price guarantee on Kingston memory: Third, We've said that we offer excellent pricing on Kingston Technology memory and Processor Upgrades. We're willing to prove it. Give us a legitimate hard-copy quote you've received for ANY Kingston product and we will beat the price, ship it to you for FREE, and still give you $5.00 off each part number for placing your order on-line here. You absolutely can not beat this offer for upgrading your RAM or processor! http://www.pcupgrades.com:80/ ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 20 21:20:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15554; Sun, 20 Aug 95 21:20:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05167; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 21:08:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 21:08:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.cs.utexas.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05156; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 21:08:39 -0400 Received: from darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (mschaef@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.143.204]) by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA08869 for ; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 20:08:36 -0500 Received: by darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/Client-v1.4) id UAA90474; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 20:08:35 -0500 Date: Sun, 20 Aug 1995 20:08:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Schaeffer To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Thinkpad 701's Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anybody on this list know of an appropriate forum (mailing list) for discussing Thinkpad 701 subnotebooks? Thanks. -Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 20 21:47:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17011; Sun, 20 Aug 95 21:47:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07135; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 21:42:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 21:42:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA07125; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 21:42:28 -0400 Received: by GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA05011; Sun, 20 Aug 95 21:43:31 EDT Date: Sun, 20 Aug 95 21:43:31 EDT Message-Id: <9508210143.AA05011@GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU> From: David Fox To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP Memory source In-Reply-To: References: John H. Kim writes: > I found this too. They seem to have a good price guarantee on Kingston > memory: > > Third, We've said that we offer excellent pricing on Kingston > Technology memory and Processor Upgrades. We're willing to prove it. > Give us a legitimate hard-copy quote you've received for ANY Kingston > product and we will beat the price, ship it to you for FREE, and > still give you $5.00 off each part number for placing your order > on-line here. You absolutely can not beat this offer for upgrading > your RAM or processor! > > http://www.pcupgrades.com:80/ Unfortunately, the prices they list in their ad are not particularly good. I wish these companies would just post decent prices and not try to take us for fools, or make us run around getting quotes. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 20 22:30:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19800; Sun, 20 Aug 95 22:30:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09872; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 22:24:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 22:24:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA09859; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 22:24:28 -0400 Received: (from postman@localhost) by andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA06569 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 22:24:24 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 22:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix13.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 22:24:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix13.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 22:24:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Jan.26.1995.18.43.47.sun4c.411.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix13.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix13.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 22:24:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 20 Aug 1995 22:24:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Sang H Kim To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: installing linux Slackware I'm trying to install linux on my tp755cs with a 3com ethernet card. which boot and root disk do I use? I tried bare and scsi with no success. when I'm asked to enter "parameters" after the root disk, what do I type in? I'm using the color144 rootdisk. thanks in advance From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 20 22:47:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20961; Sun, 20 Aug 95 22:47:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11075; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 22:43:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 22:43:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11065; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 22:43:01 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA04003; Sun, 20 Aug 95 22:43:41 -0400 Date: Sun, 20 Aug 95 22:43:41 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508210243.AA04003@nile.gnat.com> To: fox@GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP Memory source David says "Unfortunately, the prices they list in their ad are not particularly good. I wish these companies would just post decent prices and not try to take us for fools, or make us run around getting quotes." Actually I don't think you wish this. If they didn't make a bigger profit from people willing to pay more, they wouldn't be able to offer knowledgable buyers such good prices -- think about it .... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 21 00:33:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27282; Mon, 21 Aug 95 00:33:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18116; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 00:27:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 00:27:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA18106; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 00:27:42 -0400 Received: from scunix4.harvard.edu by husc.harvard.edu with SMTP; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 00:27:40 -0400 Message-Id: <199508210427.AAA19845@husc.harvard.edu> Received: from dial1-9.cybercom.net by scunix4.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA03113; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 00:30:34 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 00:30:34 -0400 X-Sender: dchan@mail.cybercom.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: "Derek V. Chan" Subject: IDE drive in Dock II Sorry for sending the following message again, but I had changed addresses and may have lost some replies. Could anyone who replied please forward their replies to me again? Thanks. == Begin Previous Message == Hi all. I'm trying to install another IDE drive into the Dock II. I set it as a slave drive. However, the drive installation programs says that I need to change jumpers on the existing IDE drive. Anyone know how to do this on the thinkpad drive? I' m using a thinkpad 750c/340 mb ide internal drive. Thanks. P.S. the IDE i'm installing is a syquest ez135 (yeah i'm beta testing it, so if anyone else can help...) Also...where does one get the special mounting rails for the drive bay? My syquest is just sorta "sitting" in the bay, but it's not actually mounted... -- "Women...can't live with 'em, can't kill 'em..." -- Tom Arnold (True Lies) Derek V. Chan dchan@cybercom.net chan4@fas.harvard.edu <-- going down on August 18, 1995 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 21 08:39:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24618; Mon, 21 Aug 95 08:39:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21251; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 08:29:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 08:29:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21241; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 08:29:20 -0400 Received: by GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA06188; Mon, 21 Aug 95 08:30:22 EDT Date: Mon, 21 Aug 95 08:30:22 EDT Message-Id: <9508211230.AA06188@GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU> From: David Fox To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP Memory source In-Reply-To: <9508210243.AA04003@nile.gnat.com> References: <9508210243.AA04003@nile.gnat.com> Robert Dewar writes: > "Unfortunately, the prices they list in their ad are not particularly > good. I wish these companies would just post decent prices and > not try to take us for fools, or make us run around getting quotes." > > Actually I don't think you wish this. If they didn't make a bigger profit > from people willing to pay more, they wouldn't be able to offer knowledgable > buyers such good prices -- think about it .... I suppose, but its a sort of knowledge I'd rather not spend my time obtaining. I'd just assume buy from the company that prints the lowest price rather than obtain a written quote and getting a $5 lower price, since the company that prints the low price is doing me the favor of enlightening me with the truth. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 21 09:47:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29132; Mon, 21 Aug 95 09:47:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25863; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 09:34:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 09:34:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA25851; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 09:34:41 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id JAA06595 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 09:37:04 -0400 Received: by channel1 (NetXpress 2.02) with UUCP id D70965; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 09:58:02 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Help with Auto/Conf pleas From: akiro@channel1.com (Akiro) Message-Id: <40.1184117.700@channel1.com> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 09:25:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Subject: Help with Auto/Conf please! Greetings, I was wondering if someone more experienced could please help me in fine tunning my Auto and Config files?!! Any help in deleting, adding or modifying (especially in the areas of the numbers after Smartdrv and emm386) these files would be greatly appreciated. I do plan to install the latest QEMM, unless someone can suggest a better memory manager. Thank You very much, I have the following: IBM Thinkpad 750c 12 megs of Ram IBM PC DOS 7.0 WFWG 3.11 PCMCIA Megahertz 28.8 modem card .......AUTOEXEC.BAT @ECHO OFF rem C:\NAV\NAV C:\ IF NOT "%CONFIG%" == "NORMAL" GOTO GAMES rem C:\MCAFEE\VSHIELD.EXE prompt=$e[39m$e[8C$e[0m+$e[1;30m-[$e[0;31m$t$e[1;30m]----+$_$e[8C$e[0m| $e[1;30 PATH=C:\TURBOC30\BIN;C:\DOS;C:\PCTOOLS;C:\MCAFEE;C:\WINDOWS;C:\CPS;C:\DESIGN;C: C:\ZIPTOOLS\GUEST.EXE C:\DOS\SMARTDRV c+ d+ /u 1024 512 rem c:\dos\smartdrv.exe 2048 128 AUTORUN SCAN C: /report c:\mcafee\virus.log C:\DOS\MOUSE.COM SET CPAV=C:\PCTOOLS\DATA\CPAV.INI SET DSZLOG=C:\OBV2\DSZLOG.1 SET SYMANTEC=C:\NUDOS\SYMANTEC SET NU=C:\NUDOS SET TEMP=C:\TEMP\ SET PCTOOLS=C:\PCTOOLS\DATA SET WSIRC=C:\AOLADD\WSIRC C:\DOS\SHARE.EXE /l:500 /f:5100 rem C:\MCAFEE\VSHIELD.EXE /RECONNECT IF NOT "%CONFIG%" == "GAMES" GOTO End :GAMES C:\DOS\SMARTDRV 2048 128 PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\DESIGN;C:\THINKPAD;C:\DOS ps2 br n SET DSPPATH=C:\THINKPAD\IBMAUDIO C:\THINKPAD\VDD\SVAUDIO.EXE C:\DOS\MOUSE.COM :End .........CONFIG.SYS [MENU] menuitem=NORMAL, Setup for Windows! menuitem=GAMES, Setup for Games! menudefault=NORMAL,10 [NORMAL] DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS RAM 256 X=C000-C0FF I=E000-E5FF Dos=high,umb FILES=50 Stacks=9,256 DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\IBMDSS01.SYS /D DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\IBMDOSCS.SYS DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\DICRMU01.SYS /MA=C000-C0FF DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\$ICPMDOS.SYS DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV.SYS C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV.INI DEVICEhigh=C:\IBMVESA\VESA.EXE DEVICE=C:\DOS\POWER.EXE DEVICEhigh=C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS /E:400 /P rem DEVICEhigh=C:\X00.SYS E [GAMES] DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS FILES=30 Buffers=20 BUFFERS=40 STACKS=0,000 DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE noems ram x=e000-f7ff DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\IBMAUDIO\AUDTEST.SYS /V=10 DEVICEhigh=C:\THINKPAD\IBMAUDIO\TPAUDDD.SYS DEVICEhigh=C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS DOS=umb DEVICE=C:\IBMVESA\VESA.EXE From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 21 10:27:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00498; Mon, 21 Aug 95 10:27:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29787; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 10:19:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 10:19:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA29777; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 10:19:21 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA10722; Mon, 21 Aug 95 10:19:42 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 95 10:19:42 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508211419.AA10722@nile.gnat.com> To: fox@GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP Memory source "I suppose, but its a sort of knowledge I'd rather not spend my time obtaining. I'd just assume buy from the company that prints the lowest price rather than obtain a written quote and getting a $5 lower price, since the company that prints the low price is doing me the favor of enlightening me with the truth." You mean the truth about how low they would be willing to go? Fine, you just express the opposite of the bargaining mentality, and it is true that a lot of Americans hate to bargain. It's not in the culture, but someone willing to bargain will almost always be able to do better. That's life. THe Wall Street Journal did an article a few years ago (in the height of the recession), and found they could bargain everywhere, at gas stations, at department stores, at restaurants. It was quite amazing. I bought a power book at Rockwell a few months ago. The price on the power book was good, but they wanted $899 for memory. I told them too much, that I could get it from CDW for $699. They were willing to match, given they would be selling the power book. If you can do it (I certainly am not good at it), you can save a lot of money by bargaining in the computer field. It's easy to see the dynamics. Suppose someone buys a memory card for $500. They figure that to pay the rent, overhead, salaries, and make a profit, then need, given their estimate of the competition and elasticity of the market, to sell the card at $700, so that is what they advertise. Now if someone comes along, bargains hard, and offers $550, it is worth it on a single shot basis to sell one unit at $550 and make a small incremental profit of $50. But that does not mean that the "truth" is that they can afford to sell all the boards at $550, on the contrary, they might well go broke doing it. So you see, the "truth" in this kind of pricing situation is an elusive thing. I know this is a bit off topic for the Thinkpad mailing list, but perhaps not so *very* much off topic, when obviously a lot of people are concerned with getting the very lowest possible prices. One thing that will help is for people to post deals they have managed to make. This mailing list is small enough that we can do that without disrupting the market. Of course if you advertised the prices you got on national TV, you would blow the deal! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 21 13:12:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06213; Mon, 21 Aug 95 13:12:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15925; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 13:02:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 13:02:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po4.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15911; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 13:02:12 -0400 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po4.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA01800 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 13:02:03 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 13:02:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix17.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 13:01:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix17.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 13:01:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Jan.26.1995.18.43.47.sun4c.411.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix17.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix17.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 13:01:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 13:01:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Sang H Kim To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: more probs with installing linux more probs :) my sytem: tp755Cs with 20 megs of ram and 720 or something hdd i'm using tp-bare.gz and color144.gz when I boot with tp-bare, i get the usual "boot:" and I entered ramdisk hd=699,32,63 floppy=thinkpad ramdisk hd=699,32,63 floppy=thinkpad and no params none of the above seem to work. then i switch to rootdisk when "Uncompressing Linux...." appears I get the "slackware login" and I log on as root but when I enter "fdisk" i get a "Unable to read /dev/hda" i have 100M for dos and that's it the rest if just free space I can't get the fdisk to run so that i can create linux partitions any pointers would be appreciated. btw, i've check all the www pages for linux on thinkpad, but i still can't get it to work. tia From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 21 23:07:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12860; Mon, 21 Aug 95 23:07:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21315; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 22:54:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 22:54:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ECE.ORST.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21300; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 22:54:11 -0400 Received: from watson.ECE.ORST.EDU by ECE.ORST.EDU with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA17553; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 19:54:08 -0700 Received: by watson.ECE.ORST.EDU (1.37.109.16/HP-Client) id AA091990048; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 19:54:08 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 19:54:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Lee To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Linux/X on TP755CX Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, Forgive me if this has been answered elsewhere, but I couldn't find any references in the mailing list archives. I've just purchased a second TP755CX w/24MB RAM and a 1.2GB drive to run Linux on. I've got Linux loaded (kernel 1.2.13), along with X (XFree86 3.1.2). Also the PCMCIA package. Everything works great, *except* I can't seem to get X to run in 800x600 on the LCD (active matrix, not dualscan). It runs fine at 640x480, and I can get all resolutions from 640x480 to 1150x900 on an external monitor. None of the Linux docs have helped me, nor has IBM or the ThinkPad manual. Has anyone here tried running X on a ThinkPad LCD at 800x600? If so, *please* send me the relevant lines from your XF86config file. Much appreciated in advance, --Jim Lee jlee@ece.orst.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 22 01:59:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21888; Tue, 22 Aug 95 01:59:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01567; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 01:49:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 01:49:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ECE.ORST.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01557; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 01:49:49 -0400 Received: from watson.ECE.ORST.EDU by ECE.ORST.EDU with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA19048; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 22:49:46 -0700 Received: by watson.ECE.ORST.EDU (1.37.109.16/HP-Client) id AA096350586; Mon, 21 Aug 1995 22:49:46 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 22:49:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Lee To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Linux/X & TP755CX Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > http://www.castle.net/~darin/notebook_video_chips.txt Hi Brad, I had tried the procedure described at this web site before posting my request. Unfortunately, the procedure doesn't work. No matter what settings I try, the ThinkPad always shows the same screen - the top 2/3 show alternating white & black scan lines, while the bottom 1/3 of the screen is black except for a vertical white stripe near the right-hand edge of the screen. I have tried all possible dot clocks from 28MHz up through 80MHz. It *should* work at about 36MHz, but it doesn't. The modeline that I *thought* should work is this: ModeLine "800x600" 36 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 Again, this works perfectly fine on the external monitor, but gives garbage on the LCD. This is getting *really* frustrating... -Jim Lee jlee@ece.orst.edu P.S. Thanks anyway for your help... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 22 10:26:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21670; Tue, 22 Aug 95 10:26:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09157; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 10:12:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 10:12:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from PEAK.ORG by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09147; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 10:12:31 -0400 Received: from ECE.ORST.EDU (ECE.ORST.EDU [128.193.48.1]) by PEAK.ORG (8.6.12/8.6.7) with SMTP id HAA18000 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 07:12:28 -0700 Received: from madonna.mik.uky.edu by ECE.ORST.EDU with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA21740; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 07:12:26 -0700 Received: from nx55.mik.uky.edu by mik.uky.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA25962; Tue, 22 Aug 95 10:12:19 -0400 From: rodney d slone Message-Id: <9508221412.AA25962@mik.uky.edu> Received: by nx55.mik.uky.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0X) id AA04121; Tue, 22 Aug 95 10:12:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 95 10:12:18 -0400 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.1.1 5/02/90) To: Jim Lee , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Linux/X on TP755CX Hum... I have a TP360CSE and a dual scan monitor. I think that dual scan are only able to do 640x480, so I can not help. Will anyone verify this? -- Rodney Daryl Slone | "Grounds are pretty common." - me Electrical Engineering Senior | Nail here [] for a new monitor. University of Kentucky / 94.3% of all statistics are 87% worthless. e-mail: rdslon01@mik.uky.edu | Xerox never comes up with anything original. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 22 13:37:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08372; Tue, 22 Aug 95 13:37:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23757; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 12:58:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 12:57:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mp.canuck.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA23744; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 12:57:51 -0400 Received: from ccc017.canuck.com (ccc017.canuck.com [204.50.15.32]) by mp.canuck.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA04898 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 10:57:18 -0600 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 10:57:18 -0600 Message-Id: <199508221657.KAA04898@mp.canuck.com> X-Sender: dcrombie@canuck.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: dcrombie@canuck.com (David S. Crombie) Subject: request for drive/memory info X-Mailer: Hi all, I have been somewhat of a lurker on the list for the last eight months or so. I have a 360C and am looking to finally upgrade to a larger hardrive and more RAM. I have a PALTRY 170 now, and I'm looking at 540 minimum with another 4-8 MB of RAM. I know that a lot of poeople on this list are constantly upgrading their systems, so I figured it would be an ideal place to go for advice. Where would give me the best prices on these poducts (I'm a university student so I am a tad price sensitive). Thanks for the help ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------- David S. Crombie dcrombie@canuck.com 4 out of 5 people think the 5th person is an idiot. 102035.3354@compuserve.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 22 20:51:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09126; Tue, 22 Aug 95 20:51:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29582; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 20:34:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 20:34:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ECE.ORST.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29572; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 20:34:17 -0400 Received: from watson.ECE.ORST.EDU by ECE.ORST.EDU with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA27918; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 17:34:15 -0700 Received: by watson.ECE.ORST.EDU (1.37.109.16/HP-Client) id AA153448055; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 17:34:15 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 17:34:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Lee To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP755/X/Linux Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, I *finally* got X windows running on my TP755CX's LCD in 800x600 mode! I was beginning to think it wasn't possible... Anyway, the magical missing piece I needed was to run "PS2 MODE3X ON" under DOS (to apparently install video mode 3 extensions), then boot into Linux using LOADLIN.EXE. Then my XF86config worked the first time (I posted the modeline in a previous message). Now, I'd like to run a pure Linux machine without DOS, so I decided to write a C program for Linux to perform the same function as "PS2 MODE3X ON". I tried to disassemble the PS2.EXE program under DOS using the latest version of Sourcer, but Sourcer says that PS2.EXE is a "modified Windows NE executable format", and refused to touch it. Next, I fired up Turbo Debugger to try and step through it, but Turbo Debugger complained that it was an "unsupported executable format". So my question is this: Does anyone know how the MODE3X function works internally? Is it something that's a documented part of the Western Digital chip? Or does the PS2 program simply enable a different BIOS INT 10H handler? (OK, so it was three questions :-) If anyone can help me with this, I would greatly appreciate it. I also intend to release the completed program to the Linux/Thinkpad community at large (assuming I don't have to sign an NDA with IBM to get the information!) Thanks, Jim Lee jlee@ece.orst.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 22 22:05:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12576; Tue, 22 Aug 95 22:05:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05434; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 21:56:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 21:56:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from s.psych.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05417; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 21:56:22 -0400 Received: from kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu by s.psych.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA00156 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 22 Aug 1995 20:55:25 -0500 Received: by kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA11835; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 20:55:22 -0500 From: stanwass@kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu (Stanley Wasserman) Message-Id: <9508230155.AA11835@kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu> Subject: Win95 on a TP500? To: stanwass@kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu (Stanley Wasserman) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 20:55:21 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: from "Jim Lee" at Aug 22, 95 05:34:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24beta] Content-Type: text Dear all: Does anyone have any experience putting Win95 on a 500? This is not one of the models mentioned in the IBM Win95 document --- they did not test the new software with all of their old models. Any advice? SW -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Stanley Wasserman Psychology and Statistics University of Illinois Beckman Institute ****************************************************************************** stanwass@uiuc.edu * stanwass@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au * ********************* * Rest in Peace #7 1 217 333-3325 * 1 217 244-6905 * 1 217 244-5876 (fax) * ****************************************************************************** From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 22 22:48:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14694; Tue, 22 Aug 95 22:48:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08089; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 22:37:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 22:37:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from odyssee.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA08074; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 22:37:07 -0400 Received: from pool1_13.odyssee.net by odyssee.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA18945; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 22:35:45 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 22:35:43 -0400 Message-Id: <9508230235.AA18945@odyssee.net> X-Sender: neil@204.50.80.201 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: neil@atlas.odyssee.net (DiMeglio Aniello) Subject: Introduction I my name is Neil Di Meglio, I own a Thinkpad 755CE 8 mg ram, 810HD Running on Windows 95 (Beta build 490) Also using an PCMCIA CD Rom, Panasonic. Thank You Neil ! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 23 00:24:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19823; Wed, 23 Aug 95 00:24:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14159; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 00:09:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 00:09:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA14149; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 00:09:55 -0400 Received: from [128.125.222.77] (comserv-d-05.usc.edu [128.125.222.77]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id VAA13107; Tue, 22 Aug 1995 21:09:42 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 Aug 1995 21:16:10 -0700 To: neil@atlas.odyssee.net (DiMeglio Aniello), TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: Introduction At 10:35 PM 8/22/95, DiMeglio Aniello wrote: >I my name is Neil Di Meglio, >I own a Thinkpad 755CE 8 mg ram, 810HD >Running on Windows 95 (Beta build 490) >Also using an PCMCIA CD Rom, Panasonic. >Thank You Neil ! Would you like to share with us any strange nuances you had in installing Win 95 on your 'Pad? ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 23 01:36:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24141; Wed, 23 Aug 95 01:36:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18489; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 01:27:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 01:27:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po8.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA18478; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 01:27:12 -0400 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po8.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA21963 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 01:27:02 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 01:27:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix17.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 01:26:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix17.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 01:26:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Jan.26.1995.18.43.47.sun4c.411.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix17.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix17.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 01:26:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 01:26:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Sang H Kim To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: successful linux install well...... *sniff* I got Linux (slackware) installed on my Thinkpad 755Cs. and I have XWindows running WONDERFULLY. Thanks for ALL the help. *sniff* I love you guys. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 23 04:32:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06320; Wed, 23 Aug 95 04:32:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA00667; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 04:25:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 04:25:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA00646; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 04:25:18 -0400 From: Received: from octave.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 10:25:13 +0200 Received: by octave.chorus.fr; Wed, 23 Aug 95 10:25:11 +0200 Date: Wed, 23 Aug 95 10:25:11 +0200 Message-Id: <9508230825.AA06911@octave.chorus.fr> To: jlee@ece.orst.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755/X/Linux > > I *finally* got X windows running on my TP755CX's LCD in 800x600 mode! I > was beginning to think it wasn't possible... Anyway, the magical missing > piece I needed was to run "PS2 MODE3X ON" under DOS (to apparently > install video mode 3 extensions), then boot into Linux using > LOADLIN.EXE. Then my XF86config worked the first time (I posted the > modeline in a previous message). Now, I'd like to run a pure Linux > machine without DOS, so I decided to write a C program for Linux to > perform the same function as "PS2 MODE3X ON". I tried to disassemble the > PS2.EXE program under DOS using the latest version of Sourcer, but > Sourcer says that PS2.EXE is a "modified Windows NE executable format", > and refused to touch it. Next, I fired up Turbo Debugger to try and step > through it, but Turbo Debugger complained that it was an "unsupported > executable format". So my question is this: Does anyone know how the > MODE3X function works internally? Is it something that's a documented > part of the Western Digital chip? Or does the PS2 program simply enable a > different BIOS INT 10H handler? (OK, so it was three questions :-) If > anyone can help me with this, I would greatly appreciate it. I also > intend to release the completed program to the Linux/Thinkpad community > at large (assuming I don't have to sign an NDA with IBM to get the > information!) > Hi John, Concerning the need to go back to DOS to run the PS2.exe command, I have had a similar experience trying to run X in 800x600 or 1024x768 on the external display (with my TP360CSE). Notice that the same it also true if you try to run Windows at these resolutions. I came to the same conclusion as you. It would be great if we could get an equivalent of the PS2.exe command under Linux. Desperatly, I am not a expert in assembly language and so I could not really help you there. But I hope there is another way to get the information about this mysterious command so as we can port it to another OS. Anyway, I actually do support your initiative. -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 23 09:55:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17685; Wed, 23 Aug 95 09:55:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24312; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 09:44:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 09:44:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24300; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 09:44:42 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id JAA21225; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 09:49:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 09:49:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Thinkpad List Subject: Lose95 on the horizon... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII With a number of people probably suffering from Upgrade Fever and the new release of the Windows virus being released at midnight tonight, I thought I'd remind all of you (and inform the ones who might not know) that IBM wrote a little tech document about installing Lose95 on your Thinkpad. The document includes, amoung others, specifics about using the 755C/Cs, 340C, 750, 701C with Win95. (There are others, that's all I know off the top of my head.) Anyways, if you're going to take the plunge, I've put the document up on my Thinkpad page - http://www.shadow.net/~dwhite/thinkpad.html - and you can read it there if you with. IBM also has it on their pages, I just don't know the URL off the top of my head. The document I have was written on July 10th, if they've updated it as far as anyone knows, mail me and I'll grab the newer one for the page. May Bill have mercy on your souls. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 23 11:33:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23338; Wed, 23 Aug 95 11:33:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00329; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 10:43:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 10:43:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00313; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 10:43:36 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA02977 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Wed, 23 Aug 1995 10:43:32 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA13856; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 10:42:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 10:42:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinof To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Multimedia PCMCIA from IBM Message-Id: Organization: Yeshiva University Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Also an ISA version of this which i cut out of this announcement. Options by IBM: New Multimedia Products Announced on August 22, 1995 HARDWARE Announcement 195-247 In Brief . . . 3D PCMCIA Sound Card o A 16-voice, 128-instrument wavetable synthesizer o 16-bit, CD-quality stereo record and playback at sample rates up to 44.1KHz o Support for Q-Sound 3D sound, MIDI for Windows+ and OS/2, and Windows Sound System 2.0 o Systems supported: ThinkPad(R) 3D PCMCIA Sound Card Attach Module o 15-pin, female D-shell type connector for attaching a joystick or a MIDI breakout cable o Built-in microphone o Two 1/8-inch, 3-connector phone jacks for attaching, connecting, or receiving (stereo or CD function) ---------------------------------------- You can upgrade multimedia- and non-multimedia-enabled ISA bus personal computers and PCMCIA-equipped portable computers for applications including entertainment, games, education, training, business presentations, and pro audio. Select from four new multimedia products. The 16-Bit DSP Wavetable Sound Card is based on the latest Mwave(R) digital signal processor (DSP) technology, which provides Sound Blaster(1) compatibility and outstanding audio performance for business and home use. The 3D PCMCIA Sound Card, also based on the Mwave DSP, is the only product of its kind that supports many applications written to the Sound Blaster interface while also providing superior sound quality through wavetable synthesis. An optional accessory, the 3D PCMCIA Sound Card Attach Module, provides a built-in microphone and connections for MIDI devices or a joystick. If you only require the playback of DVI video files, the ActionMedia II Lite Video Player offers a lower priced alternative to the popular ActionMedia II products. For technical support, call the HelpCenter(R) at 800-426-7299, or request technical information via IBM Faxback at 800-426-3395. Single Part Unit Description Number Price 16-Bit DSP Wavetable Sound Card 25H2749 $199 3D PCMCIA Sound Card 08H4188 299 3D PCMCIA Sound Card Attach Module 08H3842 95 ActionMedia II Lite Video Player 42H0428 909 Availability Date: August 22, 1995 (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation (1) Sound Blaster is a trademark of Creative Labs, Inc. (TM) Trademark of International Business Machines Corporation + Trademark of Microsoft Corporation ** Company, product, or service name may be a trademark or service mark of others. 3D PCMCIA SOUND CARD (08H4188) In Brief... o A new, state-of-the-art sound card for upgrading your portable PC for applications including entertainment, games, education, training, business presentations, and pro audio o The latest IBM DSP technology and a 16-voice, 128 instrument wavetable synthesizer for the very best in stereo sound from your PC o 16-bit, CD-quality stereo record and playback at sample rates up to 44.1KHz o Q-Sound 3D sound support o MIDI support for Windows and OS/2 o Windows Sound System 2.0 supported o Optional joystick and MIDI device support o Sound Blaster games played and improved sound synthesis techniques and entertainment special effects supported o Ideal for adding multimedia to your PC or upgrading the sound card in your multimedia-enabled computer o IBM and non-IBM portable computers supported with compliant PCMCIA Type II slots The 3D PCMCIA Sound Card provides desktop performance in a portable PC card form factor. The powerful Mwave DSP drives the Wavetable MIDI process without impacting your computer's CPU. The result is high-quality wavetable sound, often without slowing down your computer, preserving the horsepower required to play games or run your presentations. This product is one of the first DSPs available in a PCMCIA sound card, and with that comes the advantage of future software upgrades that add more sounds and capability. Included with the 3D PCMCIA Sound Card are: o A cable that attaches to the card and provides connectors for line-in (microphone, stereo system) and line-out (headphones, stereo system) o Earphones (earplug-style headphones) o Automated installation software o Software support for PC DOS, Windows, and OS/2 (OS/2 support available fourth quarter 1995) o Installation manual and user's guide A precision analog to digital converter (ADC) turns your voice or music into stereo, CD-quality digital files that enhance your business presentations or entertain family and friends. Sound this crisp makes playing games a whole new experience. 3D sound will surround you when Q-Sound** is unleashed. Advanced, IBM-patent-pending technology enables the 3D PCMCIA Sound Card to play the music plus all the exciting sound effects in popular Sound Blaster-compatible games. Many other portable solutions only give you the music. With high-quality wavetable sound, you have the option to use highly efficient MIDI files instead of resource-consuming digital .WAV files in your business presentations. The sound quality of wavetable synthesis is superior to FM synthesis because it is based on digital recordings of the actual instruments. If you need to play digital .WAV files, the DSP processor has the power to play multiple files at the same time. Product Positioning: This product addresses a new tier of PCMCIA audio product, with higher function and price compared to the PCMCIA Audio Adapter (87G9748). The IBM 3D PCMCIA Sound Card is for portable PCs that you want to add audio to, or upgrade the existing audio to wavetable sound and game/joystick support. Especially beneficial with older portable PCs, the DSP on the card does most of the work and can therefore operate in systems with older processors and less system memory. Technical Information o Digital stereo or mono sampling at 8- and 16-bit resolution o Sampling rates of 11.025, 22.060, and 44.1KHz o Digital stereo mixing of internal, line-in, or microphone sources o Line-in and microphone frequency range 20Hz to 20KHz o Headphone and line-out frequency range 20Hz to 20KHz o MIDI supported in Windows and OS/2 environment o MIDI wavetable synthesis with 16 voices o Software environments supported: - DOS 5.0, or later - Windows 3.1, or 3.11 (in 386 enhanced mode) - OS/2 Warp (support available fourth quarter 1995) - PCMCIA Card and Socket Services version 2.0, or later o Advanced on-board Mwave DSP with real-time OS for maximum flexibility and features o ADPCM data compression o Input jack for audio line level and microphone inputs o Output jack for headphones, audio line level, or powered speakers o Diagnostics Physical Specifications o Approximate dimensions: 24.6 cm x 15.5 cm X 6.0 cm (9.7 in. x 6.1 in. X 2.4 in.) o Approximate weight: 0.47 kg (1.0 lb) Operating Environment: The adapter can be stored reliably at temperatures ranging from -20(degs) to 85(degs)C. The adapter functions reliably in an ambient operating temperature of 10(degs) to 36(degs)C and in a relative humidity range of 8% to 80%. Agency Approvals o FCC Part 15 (Class B) o UL 1459 and CSA-C22.2 No. 225-M90 Original Country of Origin: Italy. (This may vary through the life of the product.) Hardware Requirements o Minimum: IBM or non-IBM portable PC system unit equipped with a PCMCIA Type II slot (release 2.01) and a 386SX 25MHz microprocessor, or higher, with 4MB of RAM o Recommended: IBM or non-IBM portable PC or system unit equipped with a PCMCIA Type II slot (release 2.01) and a 486 33MHz microprocessor, or higher, with 4MB of RAM IBM Systems Compatibility: The 3D PCMCIA Sound Card (#4382, 08H4188) is supported on the following IBM platforms: Description Machine Type Model ThinkPad 2523, 2603, 2618, All 2619, 2620, 2630 9545 0xx, 2xx, 3xx, 4xx 9552 All Non-IBM Systems Compatibility: This product has been verified to operate on a variety of non-IBM PCMCIA-bus systems that are known to adhere to industry standards. Software Requirements: IBM PC DOS 5.0, or later, Windows 3.1 or 3.11, OS/2 Warp (support available fourth quarter 1995), and Windows Sound System 2.0, or later Planning Information Installation Time: 30 minutes Packaging: One box Shipment Group o 3D PCMCIA Sound Card o Audio cable o Earphones o Diskette group o Plant package group o Publications o Registration card Note: An Options by IBM Hardware Maintenance Manual Supplement (S52H-3682, 52H3682) is available. Security, Auditability, and Control This product uses the security and auditability features of the respective IBM system supported. Terms and Conditions Field Installable Yes Customer Setup Yes Warranty: Period 1 Year Service Support Yes Service Type CCE Maintenance Agreement No Optional Upgrade No Note: Retail terms and conditions apply. All other terms and conditions are the same as those applicable to the IBM machine type in which the feature is installed. Help and Service Information During the warranty period, technical support is available (800-426-7299) 24 hours a day, seven days a week, for answering any questions about your new IBM option. If you need warranty service, return or exchange is available. In addition, if your IBM option is installed in an IBM computer, you may be entitled to service at your location. Your technical support representative can help you determine the best alternative. Charges Single Part Unit Description Number Price* 3D PCMCIA Sound Card 08H4188 $299 * The single unit price reflects the purchase price for a single unit acquired from IBM, and is subject to change without notice. This price is for information purposes only, and shall not limit in any way the remarketers' ability to set their own prices for IBM products. 3D PCMCIA SOUND CARD ATTACH MODULE (08H3842) In Brief... o An optional accessory for the IBM 3D PCMCIA Sound Card o 15-pin, female D-shell type connector for attaching a joystick or a MIDI breakout cable o Built-in microphone o 1/8-inch, 3-connector phone jack for attaching stereo headphones, powered speakers, or connecting to the auxiliary input of a stereo system from your PC o 1/8-inch, 3-connector phone jack to receive audio from a CD player or stereo system The 3D PCMCIA Sound Card Attach Module (#4383) is an optional accessory that is used with the 3D PCMCIA Sound Card, replacing the standard cable. It is a mouse-sized unit that has a built-in electret microphone and connections for stereo headphones, powered speakers, CD player, stereo system, standard joystick, or standard MIDI devices. The attach module connects to the PCMCIA card via a cable with a small mating connector. Product Positioning: This product is used only with the IBM 3D PCMCIA Sound Card. Technical Information Physical Specifications o Approximate dimensions: 8.1 cm x 4.7 cm x 2.3 cm (3.2 in. x 1.8 in. x 0.9 in.) o Approximate weight: 0.7 kg (1.5 lb) Operating Environment: The product can be stored reliably at temperatures ranging from -20(degs) to 85(degs)C. The adapter functions reliably in an ambient operating temperature of 0(degs) to 70(degs)C. Agency Approvals o FCC Part 15 (Class B) o UL 1459 and CSA-C22.2 No. 225-M90 Original Country of Origin: Canada. (This may vary through the life of the product.) Hardware Requirements o Minimum: Any system equipped with the IBM 3D PCMCIA Sound Card o Recommended: None, other than minimum hardware requirements Planning Information Installation Time: Five minutes Packaging: One box Shipment Group o 3D PCMCIA Sound Card Attach Module o Registration card Note: An Options by IBM Hardware Maintenance Manual Supplement (S52H-3682, 52H3682) is available. Security, Auditability, and Control This product uses the security and auditability features of the respective IBM system supported. Terms and Conditions Field Installable Yes Customer Setup Yes Warranty: Period 1 Year Service Support Yes Service Type CCE Maintenance Agreement No Optional Upgrade No Note: Retail terms and conditions apply. All other terms and conditions are the same as those applicable to the IBM machine type in which the feature is installed. Help and Service Information During the warranty period, technical support is available (800-426-7299) 24 hours a day, seven days a week, for answering any questions about your new IBM option. If you need warranty service, return or exchange is available. In addition, if your IBM option is installed in an IBM computer, you may be entitled to service at your location. Your technical support representative can help you determine the best alternative. Charges Single Part Unit Description Number Price* 3D PCMCIA Sound Card Attach Module 08H3842 $95 * The single unit price reflects the purchase price for a single unit acquired from IBM, and is subject to change without notice. This price is for information purposes only, and shall not limit in any way the remarketers' ability to set their own prices for IBM products. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 23 12:03:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25083; Wed, 23 Aug 95 12:03:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06349; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 11:40:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 11:40:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mercury.Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06328; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 11:40:08 -0400 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM by mercury.Sun.COM (Sun.COM) id IAA14355; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 08:38:57 -0700 Received: from scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-5.3) id AA17157; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 08:38:54 -0700 Received: from pepper.Eng.Sun.COM by scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA22009; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 08:38:53 -0700 Received: by pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01958; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 08:39:47 -0700 Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 08:39:47 -0700 From: cmcmanis@scndprsn.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) Message-Id: <9508231539.AA01958@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, hosseino@yu1.yu.edu Subject: Re: Multimedia PCMCIA from IBM X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Of course they are missing the one bullet which is what everyone wants to know: "If I get this, can I run Doom on my thinkpad (non-MWave) and get all of the sounds ?" --Chuck From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 23 12:31:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26244; Wed, 23 Aug 95 12:31:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09840; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 12:19:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 12:19:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from s.psych.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09830; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 12:19:40 -0400 Received: from kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu by s.psych.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA11647 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 23 Aug 1995 11:17:58 -0500 Received: by kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA12767; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 11:17:55 -0500 Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 11:17:55 -0500 From: stanwass@kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu (Stanley Wasserman) Message-Id: <9508231617.AA12767@kentucky.psych.uiuc.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, dwhite@shadow.net Subject: Re: Lose95 on the horizon... X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII My 11 year-old son INSISTS on being the first person in Urbana to purchase Win/Lose95 tomorrow morning! But seriously ... the most recent document is dated July 10 --- I checked the IBM WWW site yesterday. And if any of you have had any experience with upgrading a 500 (which my son uses) do let me know. I don't anticipate any problems (given the wonderful documentation provided by IBM and by those of you who responded to my post last month) with my 750. Stan Wasserman --> --> -->With a number of people probably suffering from Upgrade Fever and the new -->release of the Windows virus being released at midnight tonight, I -->thought I'd remind all of you (and inform the ones who might not know) -->that IBM wrote a little tech document about installing Lose95 on your -->Thinkpad. The document includes, amoung others, specifics about using the -->755C/Cs, 340C, 750, 701C with Win95. (There are others, that's all I know -->off the top of my head.) --> -->Anyways, if you're going to take the plunge, I've put the document up on -->my Thinkpad page - http://www.shadow.net/~dwhite/thinkpad.html - and you -->can read it there if you with. IBM also has it on their pages, I just -->don't know the URL off the top of my head. --> -->The document I have was written on July 10th, if they've updated it as -->far as anyone knows, mail me and I'll grab the newer one for the page. --> -->May Bill have mercy on your souls. --> -->========================================================================= --> Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science --> Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 --> GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ --> "The universe is not in the habit of giving up --> explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton -->========================================================================= --> From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 23 21:17:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08346; Wed, 23 Aug 95 21:17:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25151; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 21:08:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 21:08:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25141; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 21:08:25 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA01953; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 21:08:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 21:08:02 -0400 From: "John H. Kim" Message-Id: <199508240108.VAA01953@tuna.mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: FS: (used) IBM DVAA-2810 810 MB Notebook Drive for Thinkpad (fwd) In-Reply-To: <41g4hh$k3d@lyman.pppl.gov> Organization: John's Thinkpad I spotted this in comp.sys.laptops. Darin Ernst is the guy who made the WD90C24 mini-HOWTO for Linux at http://www.castle.net/~darin, so he's probably trustworthy. ------- start of forwarded message ------- From: Darin Ernst Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.storage,comp.sys.laptops,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.portables,nj.forsale Subject: FS: (used) IBM DVAA-2810 810 MB Notebook Drive for Thinkpad Date: 23 Aug 1995 20:54:09 GMT Organization: Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory Lines: 37 Message-ID: <41g4hh$k3d@lyman.pppl.gov> I have the following *IBM* 810 MB notebook drive for sale: o IBM model DVAA-2810, OEM P/N 84G3012 o 2.5" 19mm form factor o This was the first and only 810MB notebook drive for several months o Removed from new Thinkpad by dealer (I was told), purchased by me 1/4/95 o Lower power consumption and faster access time than comparable Toshiba o Compatible with Thinkpad 360/755 o In perfect condition and working order I will offer it two ways: a) Bare drive, without the Thinkpad carrier (plastic case), for use in other notebooks (but I can only guarantee that it works in a Thinkpad): $500 + shipping, non-neg. b) With an original IBM Thinkpad carrier, ready to fit into Thinkpad 360/755 $600 + shipping, non-neg. The current price for configuration (b) at NECX is $1180 for IBM part #84G8250, 810MB IBM drive in carrier. I checked 2 other vendors, which were higher. In addition, I have a Toshiba MK2526FC, used 2 weeks. This is a 2.5" 19mm 520MB drive from a Twinhead Slimnote 5, which is the same machine as the HP4000, Sharp PC8700/8900, and Altima Virage II. I would like $400 for this drive (will consider providing carrier for this notebook), but will consider reasonable offers. Thanks, Darin darin@castle.net New Jersey, USA ------- end of forwarded message ------- -- ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 23 22:33:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12360; Wed, 23 Aug 95 22:33:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29915; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 22:16:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 22:16:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ibridge.iohk.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA29885; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 22:16:37 -0400 Received: from cwolhk.com (Ucwolhk@localhost) by ibridge.iohk.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with UUCP id JAA17395 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 09:47:12 +0800 Received: by cwolhk.com (wcGATE v4) id 36356W Thu, 24 Aug 1995 01:45:21 GMT From: patrick.mak@cwolhk.com (Patrick Mak) Subject: ThinkPad Owner Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 01:37:41 GMT Message-Id: <95082409452124281@cwolhk.com> Organization: ComputerWorld Online (Hong Kong) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU I have a ThinkPad 750C with 16MB Kingston Memory Module. Recently I upgraded my harddisk from 340MB to 810MB. I bought my harddrive from Sigma Data. I am using a Apex PCMCIA 14.4 Fax/Modem. My other PCMCIA slot fitted with the Panasonic portable CD-ROM's SCSI II card. My primary operating system is OS/2 Warp and I am using boot manager. Occasionaly I switch to DOS/Windows. The Panasonic CD-ROM does not support OS/2; that is there is no OS/2 drivers for it. I am going to buy a New Media Combo Card: Sound/SCSI II. I think it comes with drivers for OS/2. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 23 22:53:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13084; Wed, 23 Aug 95 22:53:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01812; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 22:43:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 22:43:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01802; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 22:43:40 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA02024; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 22:43:15 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 22:43:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Display on CD, CE, CX Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can some of you with one of the above three models say something about the color depth of the TFT display? IBM advertises it as capable of 65536 colors, but I've noticed that several companies say the same thing when their TFT apparently isn't capable of that many colors (the notebooks can show 16- or 24-bit color depth on an external display). Hooking the TP up to an external monitor, setting it up for simultaneous display, and comparing the TFT to the monitor on a 24-bit JPEG should be a good way to test it. I had a chance to compare the 701C (advertised 256 colors) and 755CD (advertised 65536 colors) side by side today. The TFT display on the 755CD is much brighter than the 701C. Unfortunately the store had some stupid program installed that prevented me from running an external program to test the color depth. Also, has anyone been able to compare the Apple Powerbook TFTs with the IBM TFTs? ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 23 23:11:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14155; Wed, 23 Aug 95 23:11:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03052; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 23:01:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 23:01:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po4.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA03042; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 23:01:12 -0400 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po4.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA02955 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 23:00:44 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 23:00:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix13.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 23:00:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix13.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 23:00:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Jan.26.1995.18.43.47.sun4c.411.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix13.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix13.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 23:00:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 23:00:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Sang H Kim To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: linux and sound I'm not sure if this is the appropriate place but I've grown so attached to this place.... anyway, what about sound? how can I get sound on my XWindows? is there sound app for linux xwindows out there? do I have to do something weird to get my tp755cs to play sounds? thanks in advance From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 23 23:36:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15751; Wed, 23 Aug 95 23:36:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04607; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 23:24:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 23:24:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from armon.rain.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA04597; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 23:24:39 -0400 Received: by armon.rain.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0slSu3-000DzjC; Wed, 23 Aug 95 20:24 PDT Message-Id: From: mehdi@armon.rain.com (Mehdi Attaran) Subject: Re: Display on CD, CE, CX To: jokim@tuna.mit.edu (John H. Kim) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 20:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: from "John H. Kim" at Aug 23, 95 10:43:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > Can some of you with one of the above three models say something about > the color depth of the TFT display? IBM advertises it as capable of > 65536 colors, but I've noticed that several companies say the same > thing when their TFT apparently isn't capable of that many colors (the > notebooks can show 16- or 24-bit color depth on an external display). We have several 755CE, CD, and CX models. All are capable of displaying 640X480 at 65K colors on the LCD and external monitor. Since this was one of requirements, we tested the LCD display on them very throughly. They work as advertised. ThinkPad LCD display on the 755CE, CD, and CX is *THE BEST* when compared to any other laptop. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mehdi Attaran mehdi@armon.rain.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!armon!mehdi | | Data: (503) 642-3270 Voice: (503) 649-0719 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 24 01:07:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21083; Thu, 24 Aug 95 01:07:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10417; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 00:55:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 00:55:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA10405; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 00:55:56 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA02117; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 00:55:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 00:55:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Linux sound Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here's what I know so far about Linux and sound: Someone at IBM in Japan claims to have sound working on a TP750c using the AD1484 (Microsoft Sound System) drivers. This should be identical to the other TP750's, and the TP755C/CS. He is supposedly working with IBM's intellectual property people on getting the thing released, but we all know how slow IBM can be. If anybody has gotten it working, I would *love* to know. For more info, check out: http://peipa.essex.ac.uk/tp-linux/tp-linux.html The TP755CSE/CE/CD/CX/CV use the MWave DSP for soundblaster emulation. I'm not well versed on the particulars, but given the problems with drivers for OS/2, I would think Linux drivers are rather unlikely unless it emulates the SB in hardware without having to load drivers. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 24 02:44:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26045; Thu, 24 Aug 95 02:44:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15327; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 02:38:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 02:38:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vms1.cc.uop.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15317; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 02:38:19 -0400 Received: by vms1.cc.uop.edu (MX V4.1 VAX) id 43; Wed, 23 Aug 1995 23:38:10 PST Date: Wed, 23 Aug 1995 23:38:10 PST From: JOHNNY Reply-To: ggomez@vms1.cc.uop.edu To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <00995539.F819D84C.43@vms1.cc.uop.edu> Subject: TP750 Dock I Hi, i just purchased a the Dock I for my TP750. I was just wondering how everyone else likes/dislikes it and is there anything special or interesting that I might want to know about it. Thanks in advance for the info..... :) -john From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 24 04:52:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07555; Thu, 24 Aug 95 04:52:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA24014; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 04:42:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 04:42:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from iehpc.ihosteng.priv.no by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA24002; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 04:42:40 -0400 Received: (from ivarh@localhost) by iehpc.ihosteng.priv.no (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA30395; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 10:41:55 +0200 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 10:41:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Ivar E. Hosteng" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: X11 on a TP755CX (SVGA) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks for the help I received when trying to get X11 to work in 800x600 mode on the internal screen. This is now solved. A new problem however has appeared. When runing the PS2 MODE3X ON from dos the text display changes from 80x25 to 100x37. This is just fine, but Linux does not use more than 100x25 of tis new size. And on the last 12 lines I get garbage and whats been scrolled up from the display. I have patced arch/i386/boot/setup.S to make linux use all the 37 lines but the problem is that there is a part of a line at te bottom of the screen that show garae most of the time. Does anyone know how to get rid of this line? Now for the introduction of my self as requested by te join confrmation message: I have a IBM 755TP (the SVGA version) with 32MB ram and 1.2GB disk The machine is also equipped with a IBM Ethernet ii pcmcia adapter and a Nokia cellular modem card for the europeean GSM mobile system. The machine is configured with 600 MB for linux and the rest is for OS/2. Regards, Ivar E. hosteng email: ivar@ihosten.priv.no From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 24 08:17:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16349; Thu, 24 Aug 95 08:17:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09882; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 08:08:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 08:08:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA09872; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 08:08:17 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id FAA16060; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 05:08:14 -0700 Message-Id: <199508241208.FAA16060@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 95 08:20:52 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: IBM's new charger I bought one of the new small AC power supplies for my TP 755Cs. I'm noticing that while it powers the TP OK, it does NOT charge the battery. Has anyone else noticed this? Is this how it is supposed to work. In a way this is an advantage, since you can put a charged battery in the TP and work off AC power without worrying about overcharging the battery... Comments? Roger J. Buffington AB6WR USC Law, Class of '97 Go Trojans! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from | | them (Native Americans). There were great numbers of people who | | needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it | | for themsleves." - John Wayne (actor) | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 24 09:33:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21324; Thu, 24 Aug 95 09:33:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17026; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 09:23:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 09:23:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17012; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 09:23:39 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA22251; Thu, 24 Aug 95 09:24:14 -0400 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 09:24:14 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508241324.AA22251@nile.gnat.com> To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: IBM's new charger the new AC power supply certainly powers up the Li-Ion battery in my 755CX while I am running it. Of course I do not need to worry about overcharging so much with the Li-Ion batteries. Also, they keep their charge much better, after two weeks, out of the machine, they are still at 95% or so. -------------------- I bought one of the new small AC power supplies for my TP 755Cs. I'm noticing that while it powers the TP OK, it does NOT charge the battery. Has anyone else noticed this? Is this how it is supposed to work. In a way this is an advantage, since you can put a charged battery in the TP and work off AC power without worrying about overcharging the battery... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 24 09:52:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22676; Thu, 24 Aug 95 09:52:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19149; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 09:45:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 09:45:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from pigseye.mmm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19119; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 09:45:53 -0400 From: Received: by pigseye.mmm.com (1.37.109.16/SMI-4.1) id AA257091991; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 08:46:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199508241346.AA257041990@pigseye.mmm.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is Organization: 3M To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 08:45:12 +0000 Subject: Re: IBM's new charger Reply-To: ramendenhall@mmm.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) > I bought one of the new small AC power supplies for my TP 755Cs. I'm > noticing that while it powers the TP OK, it does NOT charge the > battery. Has anyone else noticed this? Is this how it is supposed to > work. In a way this is an advantage, since you can put a charged > battery in the TP and work off AC power without worrying about > overcharging the battery... > > Comments? > > > Roger J. Buffington > AB6WR > USC Law, Class of '97 > Go Trojans! > WARPing with PM-Mail I found this to be true with my TP 755C as well. At first I was upset that IBM would do this, but then when I really thought about it, it was okay. I have a port replicator at work that uses the original power supply. So, my TP will charge during the day at work. The new charger will charge my TP overnite if the TP is not turned on, and besides, I like the new compact package. I guess the net result is that I felt that I could live with it. Regards, Rod Mendenhall, Jr. RAMENDENHALL@MMM.COM 612-737-4746 These are my thoughts, comments, & opinions. Not 3M's... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 24 11:25:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29565; Thu, 24 Aug 95 11:25:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27044; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:12:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:12:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27034; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:12:50 -0400 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA09332 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:12:46 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:12:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix14.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix14.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:12:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Jan.26.1995.18.43.47.sun4c.411.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix14.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.unix14.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:12:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4kD9PIS00YUqE9d1Up@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:12:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Sang H Kim To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: linux and now.... modem I need a pcmcia type II modem. can someone recommend a good data/fax modem 14.4k that linux and os/2 recognize? also, do i have to do anything special to get linux to recognize it? tia From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 24 11:41:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00367; Thu, 24 Aug 95 11:41:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29238; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:33:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:33:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29219; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:33:33 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id LAA09503; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:38:21 -0400 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:38:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: IBM's new charger In-Reply-To: <9508241324.AA22251@nile.gnat.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 24 Aug 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: > the new AC power supply certainly powers up the Li-Ion battery in my 755CX > while I am running it. and someone else wrote: > I bought one of the new small AC power supplies for my TP 755Cs. I'm > noticing that while it powers the TP OK, it does NOT charge the > battery. Has anyone else noticed this? Is this how it is supposed to It certainly charges the battery for me. You sure you don't have the switch off on the battery? ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 24 11:43:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00405; Thu, 24 Aug 95 11:43:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29479; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:36:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:36:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29463; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:36:12 -0400 From: Received: from octave.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 17:36:03 +0200 Received: by octave.chorus.fr; Thu, 24 Aug 95 17:36:02 +0200 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 17:36:02 +0200 Message-Id: <9508241536.AA11309@octave.chorus.fr> To: sk6k+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re: linux and now.... modem Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > > > I need a pcmcia type II modem. can someone recommend a good data/fax > modem 14.4k that linux and os/2 recognize? > also, do i have to do anything special to get linux to recognize it? > I can't comment for OS/2 but for linux you have to get the excellent PCMCIA package by David Hinds (pcmcia-cs-2.6.3) and install it. Theorically any kind of PCMCIA modem is recognized and managed. Personaly, I bought a I/O Magic 14.4 PCMCIA Data/Fax/Voice modem (Cirrus Logic chipset). It runs nicely under Linux although the voice part is useless. It is installed as /dev/cua1 and I can use it with xc, kermit, ..... I did not find the time to test the fax part yet.... -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 24 17:07:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28778; Thu, 24 Aug 95 17:07:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27503; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 16:52:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 16:52:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ECE.ORST.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27493; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 16:52:28 -0400 Received: from watson.ECE.ORST.EDU by ECE.ORST.EDU with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA10740; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 13:52:20 -0700 Received: by watson.ECE.ORST.EDU (1.37.109.16/HP-Client) id AA042447540; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 13:52:20 -0700 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 13:52:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Lee To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Linux on 755CX Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, I recently posted about my success in getting Linux & X running in 800x600 mode on the TP755 - I also ran in to the same problem Ivar mentioned. I had to patch the kernel init source to get Linux to recognize 37 lines in text mode (it figured out the 100 columns correctly). Now everything works correctly, *except* I get about 1/2 line of garbage text at the bottom of the screen. Looks like about 8 scan lines high. Apparently there must be some additional tweaking of the 90C24 that is necessary. I'm waiting for the Western Digital data book... The real reason for posting this message, however, is that I discovered how to get the MWave soundblaster emulation and modem functions working under Linux! Since I need to boot DOS first to enable 800x600 mode via the PS2 command, I tried running the 'MWGAMES ON' (for soundblaster) and 'MWMODEM ON' (for modem) commands before launching Linux, and they work! Forgive me if this is common knowledge, but I couldn't find references to anyone else using the ThinkPad's DSP chip under Linux, so I thought I'd share my experiences... Jim Lee jlee@ece.orst.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 24 17:08:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28795; Thu, 24 Aug 95 17:08:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28412; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 17:00:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 17:00:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dill.lcs.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28392; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 17:00:39 -0400 Received: by dill.lcs.mit.edu; id AA09609; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 16:58:40 -0400 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 16:58:40 -0400 From: Drew Moore Message-Id: <9508242058.AA09609@dill.lcs.mit.edu> Apparently-To: dmoore@dill.lcs.mit.edu Apparently-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU I'm still fighting with my MWAVE internal fax/modem device in my Thinkpad 755CE. I got a copy of Win95, which I believed would support the device, but still no luck. Could someone give me the definite setup in the BIOS -- ie., IRQs/DMAs/enabled/disables for devices such as COM1, COM2, DSP device, Telephony function, Soundblaster Support, MIDI support...? I still haven't found the magic combination. Frustration set in a long time ago. Does anyone have this working? With Win95? -Drew From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 24 20:07:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25855; Thu, 24 Aug 95 20:07:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11216; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 19:58:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 19:58:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hades.osc.epsilon.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11206; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 19:58:19 -0400 Received: by hades.osc.epsilon.com (4.1/3.1.-Epsilon Data Management) id AA18677; Thu, 24 Aug 95 20:00:55 EDT Received: from kosmos.quantum.epsilon.com(159.127.20.130) by hades.osc.epsilon.com via smap (V1.3) id sma018671; Thu Aug 24 20:00:17 1995 Received: from titan by kosmos.epsilon.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08051; Thu, 24 Aug 95 19:57:16 EDT Received: by titan (4.1) id AA06656; Thu, 24 Aug 95 19:57:15 EDT Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 19:57:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chan T. Cao" To: Drew Moore Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <9508242058.AA09609@dill.lcs.mit.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Since I last responded, I'd had success installed Warp Connect with Mwave Support. Pay close attention to IRQs. Definitely put the com.sys (2,2F8,4)? Once you're done with the installation, do a rmview and write down all interrupts. OS2 is notoriously for assigning IRQs without warning you. CC On Thu, 24 Aug 1995, Drew Moore wrote: > I'm still fighting with my MWAVE internal fax/modem device in my > Thinkpad 755CE. I got a copy of Win95, which I believed would > support the device, but still no luck. Could someone give me the > definite setup in the BIOS -- ie., IRQs/DMAs/enabled/disables for > devices such as COM1, COM2, DSP device, Telephony function, > Soundblaster Support, MIDI support...? > > I still haven't found the magic combination. Frustration set in > a long time ago. > > Does anyone have this working? > > With Win95? > > -Drew > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 24 22:21:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06999; Thu, 24 Aug 95 22:21:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19827; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 22:13:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 22:12:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA19816; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 22:12:54 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id TAA28332; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 19:12:51 -0700 Message-Id: <199508250212.TAA28332@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 19:15:33 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: dwhite@shadow.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: IBM's new charger On Thu, 24 Aug 1995 11:38:21 -0400 (EDT) you wrote: >It certainly charges the battery for me. You sure you don't have the >switch off on the battery? Yep. And the battery LED on my TP755Cs is amber, never green, using the small AC adaptor unit, unlike the bigger charger/adaptor it came with. Someone else here said that the ion-battery units do charge with it. ----------------------------------- Roger J. Buffington USC Law, Class of '97 AB6WR Go Trojans!! WARPing with PM-Mail |Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, | |in whole or in part. Copyright, 1995. License to distribute this post is | |available to Microsoft for $1,000. Posting without permission constitutes | |an agreement to these terms. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 24 22:33:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07764; Thu, 24 Aug 95 22:33:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20181; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 22:17:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 22:17:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20171; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 22:17:29 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id TAA28566; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 19:17:26 -0700 Message-Id: <199508250217.TAA28566@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 19:20:10 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: subscribe subscribe ----------------------------------- Roger J. Buffington USC Law, Class of '97 AB6WR Go Trojans!! WARPing with PM-Mail |Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, | |in whole or in part. Copyright, 1995. License to distribute this post is | |available to Microsoft for $1,000. Posting without permission constitutes | |an agreement to these terms. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 24 22:45:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08268; Thu, 24 Aug 95 22:45:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21573; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 22:40:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 22:40:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from linux.nicotra.com.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA21551; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 22:40:03 -0400 Received: from nicotra.com.sg (wilson) by linux.nicotra.com.sg with SMTP id AA00960 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for < tp750@cs.utk.edu>); Fri, 25 Aug 1995 10:28:57 +0800 Message-Id: <199508250228.AA00960@linux.nicotra.com.sg> Date: Fri, 25 Aug 95 10:30:28 EDT From: Wilson Yip (Wilson Yip) Reply-To: wyip@nicotra.com.sg (Wilson Yip) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Yang Kuangying's PMMail v1.1 Subject: OS/2 Warp - Changing Resolutions I have a 750C with OS/2 Warp installed. This is the version released October 1994 without WinOs2. I have always used 640x480 on the LCD and never tried getting a higher resolution on an external monitor. Lately I took over from a colleague an NEC MultiSync 4FG monitor in the office but try as I might I have been unsucessful in getting a higher resolution on this monitor. According to the 750 manual there should be a "ChangRes" and a "SetCRT" batch file after installing the latest drivers from PCCO (ver 1.33) but these drivers are for OS/2 2.1 only, the docs accompanying the drivers state that if the user is using Warp, the video drivers from Warp should be used. My drivers were installed when installing Warp but there is no indication of how to get higher resolution or is this not possible? If any on this list can shed light on this matter, I shall be obliged. Wilson Yip From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 01:00:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15496; Fri, 25 Aug 95 01:00:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00195; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 00:49:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 00:49:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00185; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 00:49:36 -0400 Received: from [128.125.222.162] (comserv-e-18.usc.edu [128.125.222.162]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id VAA07962; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 21:49:25 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 21:55:56 -0700 To: "John H. Kim" , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randy Whittle) Subject: Re: Display on CD, CE, CX At 10:43 PM 8/23/95, John H. Kim wrote: >Also, has anyone been able to compare the Apple Powerbook TFTs with the >IBM TFTs? I can't say definitively (I've never compared head-up), but it seems to me that the Powerbook TFT's are considerably brighter. In my experience, the IBM screen is big--but not very bright (even with full non-powersaving mode). I've even had people mistake my TFT for a dual-scan... :( ----- ____________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | WWW Hope Page: | USC Graduate School of Business (Fight on 'SC!)| http:// | "Did you really think you could call up the | www-scf.usc.edu/~whittle/| Devil and ask him to behave?" ---------------------------- -Fox Mulder on T.V.'s "X-Files" speaking to an occult practitioner From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 01:23:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18065; Fri, 25 Aug 95 01:23:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01347; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 01:13:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 01:13:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ame2.math.arizona.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01337; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 01:13:22 -0400 Received: (from rychlik@localhost) by ame2.math.arizona.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) id WAA23423; Thu, 24 Aug 1995 22:13:00 -0700 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 1995 22:13:00 -0700 From: Marek Rychlik Message-Id: <199508250513.WAA23423@ame2.math.arizona.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: CD-ROM under Linux on ThinkPad755CD The CD-ROM does not work properly under Linux 2.3.0. Someone mentioned that the message "buffer botched" appears in /var/adm/messages. Also, doing 'ls /cdrom' will produce a trunctated listing of files on at least one of my compact disks. I also noticed that X will not start when CD-ROM is in its bay. It seems to me that someone posted a message suggesting that an upgrade of the ide-cd.c device driver cures the problem, but I cannot find the mail message. I would appreciate if someone posted a procedure for fixing the bug. Thank you. -- Marek R. Rychlik ................................................................ Department of Mathematics University of Arizona tel.: (520) 621-6864 (office) ................................................................ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 04:21:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27370; Fri, 25 Aug 95 04:21:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12641; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 04:12:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 04:12:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA12626; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 04:12:00 -0400 Received: from scunix4.harvard.edu by husc.harvard.edu with SMTP; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 04:11:58 -0400 Message-Id: <199508250811.EAA16449@husc.harvard.edu> Received: from dial1-10.cybercom.net by scunix4.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA05982; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 04:14:54 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 04:14:54 -0400 X-Sender: dchan@mail.cybercom.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "John H. Kim" From: "Derek V. Chan" Subject: Re: FS: (used) IBM DVAA-2810 810 MB Notebook Drive for Thinkpad (fwd) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Also seen as a reply (for what it's worth): Begin News Article === >From: Jack Shu >Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.storage,comp.sys.laptops,misc.forsale.computers.pc-sp ecific.portables,nj.forsale >Subject: Re: FS: (used) IBM DVAA-2810 810 MB Notebook Drive for Thinkpad >Date: 24 Aug 1995 23:01:49 GMT >Message-ID: <41j0ct$jm@risky.ecs.umass.edu> >References: <41g4hh$k3d@lyman.pppl.gov> > >Darin Ernst wrote: >>I have the following *IBM* 810 MB notebook drive for sale: >> >>o IBM model DVAA-2810, OEM P/N 84G3012 >>o 2.5" 19mm form factor >>o This was the first and only 810MB notebook drive for several months >>o Removed from new Thinkpad by dealer (I was told), purchased by me 1/4/95 >>o Lower power consumption and faster access time than comparable Toshiba >>o Compatible with Thinkpad 360/755 >>o In perfect condition and working order >> >>I will offer it two ways: >> >>a) Bare drive, without the Thinkpad carrier (plastic case), for use in other >> notebooks (but I can only guarantee that it works in a Thinkpad): >> >> $500 + shipping, non-neg. >> >>b) With an original IBM Thinkpad carrier, ready to fit into Thinkpad 360/755 >> >> $600 + shipping, non-neg. >> >> >>The current price for configuration (b) at NECX is $1180 for IBM part #84G8250, >>810MB IBM drive in carrier. I checked 2 other vendors, which were higher. > > > >I just bought a brand new one for $600 from IBM including the plastic adapter. with >a 3 year warranty. you might want to lower your prices a little bit. > > > === End News Article At 09:08 PM 8/23/95 -0400, you wrote: >I spotted this in comp.sys.laptops. Darin Ernst is the guy who made >the WD90C24 mini-HOWTO for Linux at http://www.castle.net/~darin, so >he's probably trustworthy. > >------- start of forwarded message ------- >From: Darin Ernst >Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.storage,comp.sys.laptops,misc.forsale.computers.pc-sp ecific.portables,nj.forsale >Subject: FS: (used) IBM DVAA-2810 810 MB Notebook Drive for Thinkpad >Date: 23 Aug 1995 20:54:09 GMT >Organization: Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory >Lines: 37 >Message-ID: <41g4hh$k3d@lyman.pppl.gov> > >I have the following *IBM* 810 MB notebook drive for sale: > >o IBM model DVAA-2810, OEM P/N 84G3012 >o 2.5" 19mm form factor >o This was the first and only 810MB notebook drive for several months >o Removed from new Thinkpad by dealer (I was told), purchased by me 1/4/95 >o Lower power consumption and faster access time than comparable Toshiba >o Compatible with Thinkpad 360/755 >o In perfect condition and working order > >I will offer it two ways: > >a) Bare drive, without the Thinkpad carrier (plastic case), for use in other > notebooks (but I can only guarantee that it works in a Thinkpad): > > $500 + shipping, non-neg. > >b) With an original IBM Thinkpad carrier, ready to fit into Thinkpad 360/755 > > $600 + shipping, non-neg. > > >The current price for configuration (b) at NECX is $1180 for IBM part #84G8250, >810MB IBM drive in carrier. I checked 2 other vendors, which were higher. > >In addition, I have a Toshiba MK2526FC, used 2 weeks. This is a >2.5" 19mm 520MB drive from a Twinhead Slimnote 5, which is the same >machine as the HP4000, Sharp PC8700/8900, and Altima Virage II. >I would like $400 for this drive (will consider providing carrier for >this notebook), but will consider reasonable offers. > >Thanks, > >Darin >darin@castle.net >New Jersey, USA >------- end of forwarded message ------- > >-- >___________________________________________________________________________ >John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design >jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the >jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams > > -- "Women...can't live with 'em, can't kill 'em..." -- Tom Arnold (True Lies) Derek V. Chan dchan@cybercom.net chan4@fas.harvard.edu <-- going down on August 18, 1995 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 05:15:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00131; Fri, 25 Aug 95 05:15:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA16139; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 05:09:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 05:09:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from luyou by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA15685; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 05:01:30 -0400 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by luyou (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id QAA17895 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 16:58:55 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199508250858.QAA17895@luyou> Subject: WD90C24 for OS/2 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 16:58:54 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text hi, Someone mentioned using a new WD90C24 driver recently on a TP. This driver was not available from ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm/pub/mobiles but from an OS/2 site. The driver I found on the OS/2 site was, ------- WD90C24 Device Driver for Toshiba Models T4700CT and T4700CS THIS GRAPHICS DEVICE DRIVER SUPPORTS THE WD90C24 GRAPHICS CONTROLLER FROM THE WESTERN DIGITAL** CORPORATION. IT IS DESIGNED TO BE USED WITH THE IBM* OS/2* 2.1 PRODUCT AND THE FOLLOWING TOSHIBA** SYSTEMS: T4700CT AND T4700CS. ------- Is this the same driver and can I use this? Cheers. __________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 08:11:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14615; Fri, 25 Aug 95 08:11:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00333; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 08:02:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 08:02:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from linux.nicotra.com.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA00251; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 08:01:45 -0400 Received: from nicotra.com.sg (wilson) by linux.nicotra.com.sg with SMTP id AA02191 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for < tp750@cs.utk.edu>); Fri, 25 Aug 1995 19:52:23 +0800 Message-Id: <199508251152.AA02191@linux.nicotra.com.sg> Date: Fri, 25 Aug 95 19:58:33 EDT From: Wilson Yip (Wilson Yip) Reply-To: wyip@nicotra.com.sg (Wilson Yip) To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za Cc: A94685@netman.eskom.co.za X-Mailer: Yang Kuangying's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp - Changing Resolutions On Fri, 25 Aug 1995 07:59:43 GMT+2 you wrote: >I had the same problem. Make sure that the LCD is switched off >(display is only on the external monitor only). Next, reboot and >change the resolution with the settings notebook (right mouse on >desktop). > Can you elaborate, because I see no settings tab which would enable me to change the display resolution in the desktop settings notebook. Which particular tab are you referring to? The only way I got it to look like SVGA is to change the font size to 8. I hope you are not referring to this? Wilson Yip From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 08:54:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17047; Fri, 25 Aug 95 08:54:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03962; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 08:47:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 08:47:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from linux.nicotra.com.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03941; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 08:47:38 -0400 Received: from nicotra.com.sg (wilson) by linux.nicotra.com.sg with SMTP id AA02281 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for < tp750@cs.utk.edu>); Fri, 25 Aug 1995 20:41:05 +0800 Message-Id: <199508251241.AA02281@linux.nicotra.com.sg> Date: Fri, 25 Aug 95 20:47:14 EDT From: Wilson Yip (Wilson Yip) Reply-To: wyip@nicotra.com.sg (Wilson Yip) To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Yang Kuangying's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: WD90C24 for OS/2 On Fri, 25 Aug 1995 16:58:54 +0800 (WAUST) you wrote: >Someone mentioned using a new WD90C24 driver recently on a TP. This >driver was not available from ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm/pub/mobiles >but from an OS/2 site. The driver I found on the OS/2 site was, >------- > WD90C24 Device Driver > for > Toshiba Models T4700CT and T4700CS > Should be WDC31P.ZIP downloadable from ftp.europe.com/psmemea/os2drivers/video Wilson Yip From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 10:11:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23224; Fri, 25 Aug 95 10:11:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10153; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 10:00:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 10:00:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from imag.imag.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10128; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 10:00:35 -0400 Received: from safran-28 (safran.imag.fr [129.88.29.1]) by imag.imag.fr (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA06709; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 16:00:31 +0200 Received: (elf@localhost) by safran-28 (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.4) id QAA27144; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 16:00:30 +0200 Message-Id: <199508251400.QAA27144@safran-28> From: Eugene.Fiume@imag.fr (Eugene Fiume) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 16:00:29 -0600 In-Reply-To: Jim Lee's message as of Aug 24, 11:12pm X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Jim Lee , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Linux on 755CX } functions working under Linux! Since I need to boot DOS first to enable } 800x600 mode via the PS2 command, I tried running the 'MWGAMES ON' (for } soundblaster) and 'MWMODEM ON' (for modem) commands before launching } Linux, and they work! Forgive me if this is common knowledge, but I } couldn't find references to anyone else using the ThinkPad's DSP chip } under Linux, so I thought I'd share my experiences... Thanks for your note. I'm able to send an "AT" to my modem (755CE, MWAVE) using, for example, kermit or seyon, but whenever I try something like "ATZ" I get a message like "HOST DRIVER TIMEOUT". Any suggestions? Regards, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 10:12:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23233; Fri, 25 Aug 95 10:12:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10373; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 10:03:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 10:03:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10353; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 10:03:23 -0400 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22316; Fri, 25 Aug 95 10:03:06 -0400 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0um) id AA0032; Thu, 24 Aug 95 22:03:04 -0400 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 22:03:04 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Message-Id: <9508250203.AA0032@omerie.ai.mit.edu> To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Fri, 25 Aug 1995 16:58:54 +0800 (WAUST) from Kevin Cheong Subject: WD90C24 for OS/2 From: Kevin Cheong Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 16:58:54 +0800 (WAUST) Someone mentioned using a new WD90C24 driver recently on a TP. This driver was not available from ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm/pub/mobiles but from an OS/2 site. The driver I found on the OS/2 site was, ------- WD90C24 Device Driver for Toshiba Models T4700CT and T4700CS Is this the same driver and can I use this? Cheers. This is not the current driver. The one that I installed I obtained from "ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm/pub/mobiles": 755wdvid.exe 1485895 07-14-95 OS/2 Graphics Supt-TP755 W/ WD90C24 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 10:18:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23865; Fri, 25 Aug 95 10:18:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10701; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 10:07:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 10:07:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ada.cs.fsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10682; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 10:07:03 -0400 Received: by ada.cs.fsu.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA00413; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 14:08:22 GMT Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 14:08:22 GMT From: Ted Baker Message-Id: <199508251408.OAA00413@ada.cs.fsu.edu> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, ivarh@ihosteng.priv.no Subject: Re: X11 on a TP755CX (SVGA) | Thanks for the help I received when trying to get X11 to work in | 800x600 mode on the internal screen. This is now solved. A new | problem however has appeared. HELP! Please tell me how you got this to work. I'm running Slackware on my 755CX and can't get more than 640x480 resolution. I fetched the XFree86 3.12 SVGA driver sourcs and compiled those, in hope that it might help, but I still get exactly the same behavior, even though it now does put out different messages, apparently since it recognized the WD90C24 chipset and thinks it knows what to do with it. The effect I get (still) is a display in which the upper 2/3 consists of alternate horizontal lines of white and black, about 1 pixel thick, and the lower third of the screen is black, with a narrow white vertical bar about 1/4" wide. This appearance seems to be completely independent of which combination of clock and mode timing parameters I specify in XF86Config. --Ted Baker From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 10:18:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23873; Fri, 25 Aug 95 10:18:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10740; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 10:07:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 10:07:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10730; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 10:07:40 -0400 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22342; Fri, 25 Aug 95 10:07:26 -0400 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0um) id AA0040; Thu, 24 Aug 95 22:07:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 95 22:07:25 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Message-Id: <9508250207.AA0040@omerie.ai.mit.edu> To: wyip@nicotra.com.sg Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Fri, 25 Aug 95 10:30:28 EDT from Wilson Yip (Wilson Yip) Subject: OS/2 Warp - Changing Resolutions Date: Fri, 25 Aug 95 10:30:28 EDT From: Wilson Yip (Wilson Yip) According to the 750 manual there should be a "ChangRes" and a "SetCRT" batch file after installing the latest drivers from PCCO (ver 1.33) but these drivers are for OS/2 2.1 only, the docs accompanying the drivers state that if the user is using Warp, the video drivers from Warp should be used. My drivers were installed when installing Warp but there is no indication of how to get higher resolution or is this not possible? In the Warp user's guide, see chapter 16, "Video Procedures". Basically, with the external display connected and with the video switched to use that display, you must run the command "svga on" in a DOS full-screen session. After this is done, the "System" icon in the "System Setup" folder will have three different resolution settings for you to choose from. The "ChangRes" and "SetCRT" commands don't exist in Warp. Everything is done by means of the "System" icon in the "System Setup" folder, and the "Display" icon in the "ThinkPad Features" folder. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 10:27:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24176; Fri, 25 Aug 95 10:27:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11801; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 10:19:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 10:19:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ada.cs.fsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11791; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 10:19:55 -0400 Received: by ada.cs.fsu.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA00477; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 14:21:18 GMT Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 14:21:18 GMT From: Ted Baker Message-Id: <199508251421.OAA00477@ada.cs.fsu.edu> To: dwhite@shadow.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: IBM's new charger | > the new AC power supply certainly powers up the Li-Ion battery in my 755CX | > while I am running it. | and someone else wrote: | > I bought one of the new small AC power supplies for my TP 755Cs. I'm | > noticing that while it powers the TP OK, it does NOT charge the | > battery. Has anyone else noticed this? Is this how it is supposed to | It certainly charges the battery for me. You sure you don't have the | switch off on the battery? It seems to me (and I think I recall the documentation saying) that this charger will only charge the battery when the machine is off. --Ted Baker From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 11:21:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28766; Fri, 25 Aug 95 11:21:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16972; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 11:04:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 11:04:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16951; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 11:04:32 -0400 Received: by GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA19794; Fri, 25 Aug 95 11:05:34 EDT Date: Fri, 25 Aug 95 11:05:34 EDT Message-Id: <9508251505.AA19794@GRAPHICS.CS.NYU.EDU> From: David Fox To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Linux on 755CX In-Reply-To: <199508251400.QAA27144@safran-28> References: <199508251400.QAA27144@safran-28> Eugene Fiume writes: > } functions working under Linux! Since I need to boot DOS first to enable > } 800x600 mode via the PS2 command, I tried running the 'MWGAMES ON' (for > } soundblaster) and 'MWMODEM ON' (for modem) commands before launching > } Linux, and they work! Forgive me if this is common knowledge, but I > } couldn't find references to anyone else using the ThinkPad's DSP chip > } under Linux, so I thought I'd share my experiences... > > Thanks for your note. I'm able to send an "AT" to my modem (755CE, > MWAVE) using, for example, kermit or seyon, but whenever I try > something like "ATZ" I get a message like "HOST DRIVER TIMEOUT". And I, after upgrading to MWave 1.10, get a "device or resource busy" message when I try to open /dev/cua1 with kermit. (That's where the mwave seems to show up.) I'm using a 755CE too. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 14:16:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17658; Fri, 25 Aug 95 14:16:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05207; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 14:10:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 14:10:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05176; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 14:10:06 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sm3DO-0004ulC; Fri, 25 Aug 95 13:10 CDT Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sm3DM-0002ncC; Fri, 25 Aug 95 13:10 CDT Message-Id: X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.03) From: Scott Stratmoen To: wyip@nicotra.com.sg (Wilson Yip) To: Thinkpad Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 13:08:30 CST Reply-To: strat@dsd.northrop.com Subject: Re: WD90C24 for OS/2 Addressed to: wyip@nicotra.com.sg (Wilson Yip) Thinkpad ** Reply to note from Wilson Yip 08/25/95 8:47pm EDT > Should be WDC31P.ZIP downloadable from > ftp.europe.com/psmemea/os2drivers/video > > Wilson Yip > > Yup. Thats the one! ___ Scott A. Stratmoen Northrop Grumman strat@dsd.northrop.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 14:16:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17663; Fri, 25 Aug 95 14:16:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04842; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 14:05:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 14:05:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04819; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 14:05:15 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sm38b-0004ujC; Fri, 25 Aug 95 13:05 CDT Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sm38a-0002ncC; Fri, 25 Aug 95 13:05 CDT Message-Id: X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.03) From: Scott Stratmoen To: Chris Hanson To: Thinkpad Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 13:03:34 CST Reply-To: strat@dsd.northrop.com Subject: Re: WD90C24 for OS/2 Addressed to: Chris Hanson Thinkpad ** Reply to note from Chris Hanson 08/24/95 10:03pm -0400 > Someone mentioned using a new WD90C24 driver recently on a TP. This > driver was not available from ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm/pub/mobiles > but from an OS/2 site. The driver I found on the OS/2 site was, > ------- > WD90C24 Device Driver > for > Toshiba Models T4700CT and T4700CS This is not the correct driver for the 75x or 360 series systems. You want the wdcxxp.zip file. I can get it from IBM's driver ftp site in Europe. ___ Scott A. Stratmoen Northrop Grumman strat@dsd.northrop.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 14:18:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18124; Fri, 25 Aug 95 14:18:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05115; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 14:09:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 14:09:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA05103; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 14:09:00 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sm3CI-0004ukC; Fri, 25 Aug 95 13:09 CDT Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sm3CH-0002ncC; Fri, 25 Aug 95 13:09 CDT Message-Id: X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.03) From: Scott Stratmoen To: wyip@nicotra.com.sg (Wilson Yip) To: Thinkpad Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 13:07:23 CST Reply-To: strat@dsd.northrop.com Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp - Changing Resolutions Addressed to: wyip@nicotra.com.sg (Wilson Yip) Thinkpad ** Reply to note from Wilson Yip 08/25/95 10:30am EDT > According to the 750 manual there should be a "ChangRes" and a > "SetCRT" batch file after installing the latest drivers from > PCCO (ver 1.33) but these drivers are for OS/2 2.1 only, the > docs accompanying the drivers state that if the user is using > Warp, the video drivers from Warp should be used. My drivers > were installed when installing Warp but there is no indication > of how to get higher resolution or is this not possible? You should not be using the Thinkpad (mobiles) drivers with WARP. With the current WARP drivers you will get 640x480 on the LCD and higher resolutions when an external monitor is connected. Connect up a monitor such the the LCD is off. Then from a FULL SCREEN DOS session run "svga on". You will then find under the system setup notebook that other (higher) resolutions are available. Select one and reboot. ___ Scott A. Stratmoen Northrop Grumman strat@dsd.northrop.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 14:41:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25486; Fri, 25 Aug 95 14:41:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07223; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 14:32:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 14:32:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA07204; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 14:32:51 -0400 Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20847; Fri, 25 Aug 95 14:32:42 -0400 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0um) id AA0116; Fri, 25 Aug 95 02:32:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 95 02:32:03 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Message-Id: <9508250632.AA0116@omerie.ai.mit.edu> To: strat@dsd.northrop.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Fri, 25 Aug 1995 13:03:34 CST from Scott Stratmoen Subject: WD90C24 for OS/2 From: Scott Stratmoen Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 13:03:34 CST Addressed to: Chris Hanson Thinkpad ** Reply to note from Chris Hanson 08/24/95 10:03pm -0400 > Someone mentioned using a new WD90C24 driver recently on a TP. This > driver was not available from ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm/pub/mobiles > but from an OS/2 site. The driver I found on the OS/2 site was, > ------- > WD90C24 Device Driver > for > Toshiba Models T4700CT and T4700CS This is not the correct driver for the 75x or 360 series systems. You want the wdcxxp.zip file. I can get it from IBM's driver ftp site in Europe. You replied to my message, without including my reply to the original message. Also, you seem to imply that my information is incorrect, although I can't tell if you're referring to my message or the one that I replied to. The driver that I mentioned in my message is more recent than the one you refer to, and has been superseded by a yet more recent version, available from "ftp.pcco.ibm.com": 755wd101.exe 1480923 08-04-95 OS/2 Graphics Support-TP755 w/ WD90c24 I can vouch that the previous version of this driver, from last month, fixed some of the subtle bugs that plague Win-OS/2 seamless sessions. I haven't tried this particular driver, but I will probably upgrade in hopes of fixing the remaining bugs. My earlier experience with the wdc31 driver was that it did not behave differently from the drivers bundled with Warp. This may also have changed since I tried this driver back in the spring. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 17:00:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17422; Fri, 25 Aug 95 17:00:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19072; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 16:47:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 16:47:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19062; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 16:47:25 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA13566; Fri, 25 Aug 95 16:47:48 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 95 16:47:48 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508252047.AA13566@nile.gnat.com> To: jokim@tuna.mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: Display on CD, CE, CX " I can't say definitively (I've never compared head-up), but it seems to me that the Powerbook TFT's are considerably brighter. In my experience, the IBM screen is big--but not very bright (even with full non-powersaving mode). I've even had people mistake my TFT for a dual-scan... :(" This is peculiar, I am looking at the two screens side by side, and the IBM screen is far brighter to my eye. In fact it is on the Power book that I cannot tell any difference between the dual scan and TFT (I know this because we debated which to buy a while ago, and chose the TFT, but not on the basis of brightness, where it made no difference but rahter on the basis of angle of view and speed, where of course the TFT has an advantage. Now this of course is for the 755's. THe 701 screen is considerably less bright, probably to help with the crummy battery in the 701. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 17:03:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18109; Fri, 25 Aug 95 17:03:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18676; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 16:44:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 16:44:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18660; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 16:44:13 -0400 Received: from hp715 by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA17958; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 14:36:01 -0600 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by hp715.cuug.ab.ca (1.37.109.16//ident-1.0) id AA237003220; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 14:40:20 -0600 Message-Id: <199508252040.AA237003220@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: CD-ROM under Linux on ThinkPad755CD To: rychlik@math.arizona.edu (Marek Rychlik) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 14:40:20 -0600 (MDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) In-Reply-To: <199508250513.WAA23423@ame2.math.arizona.edu> from "Marek Rychlik" at Aug 24, 95 10:13:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The CD-ROM does not work properly under Linux 2.3.0. Someone mentioned that > the message "buffer botched" appears in /var/adm/messages. Also, doing > 'ls /cdrom' will produce a trunctated listing of files on at least one > of my compact disks. I also noticed that X will not start when CD-ROM > is in its bay. I just received my Caldera CD and tried to load it last night. It blew up all over the place and I was quite mad a Caldera till I figured out that the CDROM drive wasn't working (trying to run an executable off the cd that only gets partially loaded causes many segfaults!). I basically found the same results as you. The Caldera CD shows up fine when I do an ls in some directories but with others it only shows some of the files the first time, some the second time, and then finally all of them. Also, as I said, executables don't always load right! Here is some info I've gleaned from the /var/adm/messages file: Bootup messages: Aug 3 11:27:25 kikass kernel: hda: DVAA-2810, 773MB w/32KB Cache, LBA, CHS=785/32/63, MaxMult=16 Aug 3 11:27:25 kikass kernel: hdc: DC4-E0, ATAPI, CDROM drive Aug 3 11:27:25 kikass kernel: ide1: secondary interface on irq 15 Aug 3 11:27:25 kikass kernel: ide0: primary interface on irq 14 Error messages: Aug 25 11:20:14 kikass kernel: hdc: DRDY error: status=0x80 Aug 25 11:20:14 kikass kernel: ide1: do_ide_reset: success Aug 25 11:20:17 kikass kernel: hdc: cdrom_read_from_buffer: buffer botch (1551) Aug 25 11:20:17 kikass kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 1600, sector 1551 Aug 25 11:20:17 kikass kernel: hdc: cdrom_read_from_buffer: buffer botch (1551) Aug 25 11:20:17 kikass kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 1600, sector 1551 ... Aug 3 11:27:33 kikass kernel: hdc: media changed Aug 3 11:27:33 kikass kernel: hdc: status error: status=0x59 Aug 3 11:27:33 kikass kernel: hdc: status error: error=0x64 Aug 3 11:27:33 kikass kernel: ide1: do_ide_reset: success Aug 3 11:27:33 kikass kernel: VFS: Disk change detected on device 22/0 Aug 3 11:27:33 kikass kernel: hdc: cdrom_decode_status: status=0x41 Aug 3 11:27:33 kikass kernel: hdc: cdrom_decode_status: error=0x54 Aug 3 11:27:33 kikass kernel: hdc: status error: status=0x49 Aug 3 11:27:33 kikass kernel: hdc: status error: error=0x54 Aug 3 11:27:33 kikass kernel: ide1: do_ide_reset: success Aug 3 11:27:33 kikass kernel: hdc: cdrom_decode_status: status=0x41 Aug 3 11:27:33 kikass kernel: hdc: cdrom_decode_status: error=0x54 Aug 3 11:27:33 kikass kernel: hdc: status error: status=0x49 Aug 3 11:27:33 kikass kernel: hdc: status error: error=0x54 Aug 3 11:27:33 kikass kernel: ide1: do_ide_reset: success Aug 3 11:27:33 kikass kernel: hdc: cdrom_decode_status: status=0x41 Aug 3 11:27:33 kikass kernel: hdc: cdrom_decode_status: error=0x54 Aug 3 11:27:33 kikass kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 1600, sector 64 Aug 3 11:27:33 kikass kernel: isofs_read_super: bread failed, dev 0x1600 iso_blknum 16 Aug 3 11:27:37 kikass kernel: Unable to identify CD-ROM format. A possibly related problem is that when I had the CDROM in my Thinkpad, my PCMCIA Ethernet card (GVC NE2000 compat) was going nuts and I geting errors. When I switched the Ethernet card to the second PCMCIA socket, all was fine! The errors were: Aug 3 11:19:49 kikass kernel: UDP: bad checksum. From C0A80101:513 to C0A801FF:513 ulen 236 Aug 3 11:19:54 kikass kernel: ICMP: failed checksum from 192.168.1.1! Aug 3 11:20:27 kikass last message repeated 8 times Aug 3 11:21:08 kikass last message repeated 8 times Aug 3 11:21:10 kikass kernel: UDP: bad checksum. From C0A80101:520 to C0A801FF:520 ulen 52 Aug 3 11:21:10 kikass kernel: ICMP: failed checksum from 192.168.1.1! Aug 3 11:21:40 kikass last message repeated 8 times Aug 3 11:21:40 kikass kernel: UDP: short packet: 631/52 Aug 3 11:21:41 kikass kernel: ICMP: failed checksum from 192.168.1.1! > It seems to me that someone posted a message suggesting that an > upgrade of the ide-cd.c device driver cures the problem, but I cannot > find the mail message. I would appreciate if someone posted a > procedure for fixing the bug. I would also like to find this. Various things I'm going to try are to boot up in dos first (maybe the dos drivers will do some init to make it work better?), disable pcmcia stuff (maybe there is a conflict there?), and look at whats been changed in the ide source code since the version I'm using (kernel 1.2.11). I hope I find it so I can load Caldera! > Thank you. > -- Marek R. Rychlik Let me know if you figure anything out! +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 17:10:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18313; Fri, 25 Aug 95 17:10:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21582; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:01:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:01:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21571; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:01:43 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA14506; Fri, 25 Aug 95 17:00:52 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 95 17:00:52 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508252100.AA14506@nile.gnat.com> To: baker@ada.cs.fsu.edu, dwhite@shadow.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: IBM's new charger just to emphasize that the battery definitely charges (the Li-Ion) with the new small charger -- I just watched my meter go up from 35% to 47% while reading my mail :-) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 17:22:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19521; Fri, 25 Aug 95 17:22:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22273; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:12:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:12:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22245; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:12:15 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id RAA26550; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:16:37 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:16:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Ted Baker Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: IBM's new charger In-Reply-To: <199508251421.OAA00477@ada.cs.fsu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 25 Aug 1995, Ted Baker wrote: > It seems to me (and I think I recall the documentation saying) > that this charger will only charge the battery when the machine is off. Hmm. I have my 'pad set to spin down the HD after 15 minutes even in AC mode. Perhaps that has something to do with it, but I _promise_ all of you it _is_ charging on this adaptor. Perhaps someone would like to try an experiment - with a run down battery, shut the cover and leave it on overnight. Mine charges in this condition all the time. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 17:40:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21609; Fri, 25 Aug 95 17:40:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23987; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:30:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:30:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23965; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:30:26 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.32] (mac32.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA10379; Fri, 25 Aug 95 17:30:17 EDT Message-Id: <9508252130.AA10379@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:43:05 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp - Changing Resolutions *DANGER* > >Connect up a monitor such the the LCD is off. Then from a FULL SCREEN >DOS session run "svga on". You will then find under the system setup >notebook that other (higher) resolutions are available. > >Select one and reboot. Do not do this if you are using video features disk v.1.33!!!! I just did, and scrambled video on my tp750 in a big way. Before you do anything, look at the readme.os2 file on the video features disk. It will save you lots of grief. I did as S.S. suggested above. No change was evident, so I went to system setup. Every time I tried to start it, it crashed, and put the system into it's long recovery convulsions*. I shut down the system, and it would not restart without the alt-f1 restart vga routine. I then had to re-install all my svga drivers. as per instructions on video features disk. By the way, the included instructions specify that to set the external CRT: 1) open OS/2 full screen 2) enter SETCRT 3) select external crt from the list 4) shut down 5) power off 6) connect crt and reboot. Having tried all this, the only option I can generate under system settings on my 750 is 640x480x256. Perhaps this is a tp750 limitation. Additional lessons: When the system goes into recovery convulsions, and you have archiving on, it is writing your former settings to archives. Only the last three are accessable, so don't do this 3 times and expect to get your original settings back. *Recovery Convulsions: Rare OS/2 malady characterised by blank screen and lots of disk activity for a couple of minutes. Recovery is usually complete. No fatalities encountered. ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 17:58:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22889; Fri, 25 Aug 95 17:58:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25277; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:47:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:47:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25267; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:47:38 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA16287; Fri, 25 Aug 95 17:46:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 95 17:46:56 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508252146.AA16287@nile.gnat.com> To: baker@ada.cs.fsu.edu, dwhite@shadow.net Subject: Re: IBM's new charger Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU "Perhaps someone would like to try an experiment - with a run down battery, shut the cover and leave it on overnight. Mine charges in this condition all the time." But that is not the issue, if you shut the cover, the machine suspends, and of course it will charge in suspend mode. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 17:59:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22897; Fri, 25 Aug 95 17:59:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25658; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:52:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:52:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25645; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:52:03 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA00984; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:51:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:51:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: Victor Kress Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp - Changing Resolutions *DANGER* In-Reply-To: <9508252130.AA10379@gl.ciw.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 25 Aug 1995, Victor Kress wrote: > >Connect up a monitor such the the LCD is off. Then from a FULL SCREEN > >DOS session run "svga on". You will then find under the system setup > >notebook that other (higher) resolutions are available. > > > >Select one and reboot. > > Do not do this if you are using video features disk v.1.33!!!! > > I just did, and scrambled video on my tp750 in a big way. If you are on a monochrome 750, it is more complicated. The status of the video (high-performance or not) makes a big difference. I found that if I installed the video drivers in hi-per mode (i.e. LCD or CRT only, can't do simultaneous), switching high-performance off scrambled my LCD. Likewise, if I installed the drivers with hi-per off, switching it on scrambled my LCD. This is a bug in the OS/2 drivers and the way they interact with the mono LCD. Apparently there are so few of us mono OS/2 users that IBM doesn't feel it's worth the effort to fix this bug (it's been there for over a year). Note that toggling the hi-per mode will not take effect until you reboot, and switching hi-per off will disable all SVGA resolutions on a CRT except 640x480. Since I almost never needed the simultaneous display but wanted SVGA on a CRT, I opted to install with high-performance on. Then the procedure Scott described works beautifully AS LONG AS YOU DON'T TURN HIGH-PERFORMANCE BACK OFF. Disclaimer: I haven't used OS/2 for several weeks so I may be wrong about the exact details. I do know for a fact though that one of the Thinkpad video settings will toggle your mono LCD from normal to scrambled depending on what mode it was in when you installed the video drivers. It took me several reinstalls of OS/2 and the video drivers to map out exactly when it happens, and of course I never wrote it down. :) ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 18:03:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23485; Fri, 25 Aug 95 18:03:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25832; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:55:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:55:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25811; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:55:16 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA00996; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:55:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 17:55:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Suspend (was: IBM's new charger) In-Reply-To: <9508252146.AA16287@nile.gnat.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 25 Aug 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: > "Perhaps someone would like to try an experiment - with a run down > battery, shut the cover and leave it on overnight. Mine charges in this > condition all the time." > > But that is not the issue, if you shut the cover, the machine suspends, and > of course it will charge in suspend mode. Off the topic, but you can change this behavior via the power management settings. I found waking from a suspend didn't wake up the PCMCIA devices, so my TP just turns off the screen when I close the cover. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 22:02:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18792; Fri, 25 Aug 95 22:02:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10628; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 21:54:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 21:54:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from odyssee.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10618; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 21:54:02 -0400 Received: from neil.odysee.net (pool3_7.odyssee.net) by odyssee.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA03164; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 21:52:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 21:52:37 -0400 Message-Id: <9508260152.AA03164@odyssee.net> X-Sender: neil@204.50.80.201 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: neil@atlas.odyssee.net (Neil Di Meglio) Subject: Power management using Windows 95 on TP 755CE Since I upgraded my BIOS to version 1.30, whenever the computers resumes twice from suspend mode within Windows 95. Apparently it's related to the power manager within Windows 95, if I disable the power management driver (APM driver), the computer resumes properly from suspend. Does anyone have any suggestion on how to resolve this problem or dilema. Yours very truly Neil ! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 22:31:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20639; Fri, 25 Aug 95 22:31:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12496; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:24:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:24:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from linux.nicotra.com.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12455; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:23:37 -0400 Received: from nicotra.com.sg (wilson) by linux.nicotra.com.sg with SMTP id AA00912 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for < tp750@cs.utk.edu>); Sat, 26 Aug 1995 10:15:40 +0800 Message-Id: <199508260215.AA00912@linux.nicotra.com.sg> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 95 10:06:03 EDT From: Wilson Yip (Wilson Yip) Reply-To: wyip@nicotra.com.sg (Wilson Yip) To: jokim@tuna.mit.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Yang Kuangying's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp - Changing Resolutions On Fri, 25 Aug 1995 13:41:07 -0400 (EDT) you wrote: >Use the popup menu (same as shutdown) and click on system setup. >It'll open a folder. One of the objects in there is named "Setup." >Open this. The first page should be the display resolutions you >have available on your machine. If you only have 640x480, you'll >have to switch to an external monitor (high-performance mode on), >open a DOS box, and run SVGA ON. Then reboot. That should make > I have installed later drivers and the video now works as you detailed above. I should kick myself for not reading the Warp Users Guide! Thanks for your pointer. Wilson Yip From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 22:31:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20644; Fri, 25 Aug 95 22:31:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12585; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:24:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:24:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from linux.nicotra.com.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12499; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:24:32 -0400 Received: from nicotra.com.sg (wilson) by linux.nicotra.com.sg with SMTP id AA00908 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for < tp750@cs.utk.edu>); Sat, 26 Aug 1995 10:15:38 +0800 Message-Id: <199508260215.AA00908@linux.nicotra.com.sg> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 95 10:01:52 EDT From: Wilson Yip (Wilson Yip) Reply-To: wyip@nicotra.com.sg (Wilson Yip) To: strat@dsd.northrop.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Yang Kuangying's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp - Changing Resolutions On Fri, 25 Aug 1995 13:07:23 CST you wrote: >Connect up a monitor such the the LCD is off. Then from a FULL SCREEN >DOS session run "svga on". You will then find under the system setup >notebook that other (higher) resolutions are available. > >Select one and reboot. > Yeah, I didnt read the Warp manual so I missed this. I did however install WDC31P and this has given me the effect you mention above. Thanks for your input. Wilson Yip From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 22:31:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20649; Fri, 25 Aug 95 22:31:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12744; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:25:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:25:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from linux.nicotra.com.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12715; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:25:30 -0400 Received: from nicotra.com.sg (wilson) by linux.nicotra.com.sg with SMTP id AA00916 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for < tp750@cs.utk.edu>); Sat, 26 Aug 1995 10:15:43 +0800 Message-Id: <199508260215.AA00916@linux.nicotra.com.sg> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 95 09:38:06 EDT From: Wilson Yip (Wilson Yip) Reply-To: wyip@nicotra.com.sg (Wilson Yip) To: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Yang Kuangying's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp - Changing Resolutions On Thu, 24 Aug 95 22:07:25 -0400 you wrote: >In the Warp user's guide, see chapter 16, "Video Procedures". > >Basically, with the external display connected and with the video >switched to use that display, you must run the command "svga on" in a >DOS full-screen session. After this is done, the "System" icon in the >"System Setup" folder will have three different resolution settings >for you to choose from. > Yes, thanks for pointing this out, I thought I had read everything there was to read on the subject but forgot about the Warp manual! Wilson Yip From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 22:38:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21134; Fri, 25 Aug 95 22:38:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13207; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:33:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:33:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from linux.nicotra.com.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13132; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:31:46 -0400 Received: from nicotra.com.sg (wilson) by linux.nicotra.com.sg with SMTP id AA00908 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Sat, 26 Aug 1995 10:15:38 +0800 Message-Id: <199508260215.AA00908@linux.nicotra.com.sg> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 95 10:01:52 EDT From: Wilson Yip (Wilson Yip) Reply-To: wyip@nicotra.com.sg (Wilson Yip) To: strat@dsd.northrop.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Yang Kuangying's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp - Changing Resolutions On Fri, 25 Aug 1995 13:07:23 CST you wrote: >Connect up a monitor such the the LCD is off. Then from a FULL SCREEN >DOS session run "svga on". You will then find under the system setup >notebook that other (higher) resolutions are available. > >Select one and reboot. > Yeah, I didnt read the Warp manual so I missed this. I did however install WDC31P and this has given me the effect you mention above. Thanks for your input. Wilson Yip From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 22:42:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21149; Fri, 25 Aug 95 22:42:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13485; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:37:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:37:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from linux.nicotra.com.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13465; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:36:35 -0400 Received: from nicotra.com.sg (wilson) by linux.nicotra.com.sg with SMTP id AA00925 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Sat, 26 Aug 1995 10:15:50 +0800 Message-Id: <199508260215.AA00925@linux.nicotra.com.sg> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 95 09:57:35 EDT From: Wilson Yip (Wilson Yip) Reply-To: wyip@nicotra.com.sg (Wilson Yip) To: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Yang Kuangying's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: WD90C24 for OS/2 On Fri, 25 Aug 95 02:32:03 -0400 you wrote: > >The driver that I mentioned in my message is more recent than the one >you refer to, and has been superseded by a yet more recent version, >available from "ftp.pcco.ibm.com": > >755wd101.exe 1480923 08-04-95 OS/2 Graphics Support-TP755 w/ WD90c24 > I downloaded this file after reading your mail and tried to do a comparision with WDC31P which I had installed and now run without any apparent problems (I dont have WinOS/2 installed). The Readme file is nearly identical with 2 glaring omissions in the recent version. One is that the earlier versions makes mention of the drivers being applicable for the 750, 755 and 360 range of Thinkpads whereas the recent version only mentions 755. Since the video system in all 3 models run on the same chip I wonder if this is just an typographical omission and not one of substance. The other omission is that the earlier version mentions creating a SVGADAT.PMI file in "5.0 Setting Up an External Monitor on a Laptop Computor" by booting a DOS diskette and running the Vesa driver in your harddisk boot partition. I tried this but forgot my C drive was formatted with HPFS! I dont't know the purpose of this PMI file, now it seems to have been left out of the later version's docs. I will skip 755WD101 unless someone can verify it runs on a 750. Moreover the APARs mentioned at the end of the two readme files are similar both in number and in kind. Wilson Yip From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 22:43:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21655; Fri, 25 Aug 95 22:43:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13508; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:38:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:38:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from linux.nicotra.com.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13216; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:34:21 -0400 Received: from nicotra.com.sg (wilson) by linux.nicotra.com.sg with SMTP id AA00920 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for < tp750@cs.utk.edu>); Sat, 26 Aug 1995 10:15:47 +0800 Message-Id: <199508260215.AA00920@linux.nicotra.com.sg> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 95 09:35:13 EDT From: Wilson Yip (Wilson Yip) Reply-To: wyip@nicotra.com.sg (Wilson Yip) To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Yang Kuangying's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp - Changing Resolutions On Fri, 25 Aug 1995 15:37:54 GMT+2 you wrote: >Press right mouse on desktop, choose system setup, select the system >icon. You will noy see a screen tab where you can change the >resolution. You will need to reboot the system after the change. > ok I understand now, my problem was I could only see one resolution here, namely 64x480, but I managed to correct this by installing later drivers (may not be the latest but certainly later than what I had when I installed Warp. Thanks for your quick reply. Wilson Yip From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 22:47:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21811; Fri, 25 Aug 95 22:47:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13886; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:42:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:42:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from linux.nicotra.com.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13876; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:42:34 -0400 Received: from nicotra.com.sg (wilson) by linux.nicotra.com.sg with SMTP id AA00920 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Sat, 26 Aug 1995 10:15:47 +0800 Message-Id: <199508260215.AA00920@linux.nicotra.com.sg> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 95 09:35:13 EDT From: Wilson Yip (Wilson Yip) Reply-To: wyip@nicotra.com.sg (Wilson Yip) To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Yang Kuangying's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp - Changing Resolutions On Fri, 25 Aug 1995 15:37:54 GMT+2 you wrote: >Press right mouse on desktop, choose system setup, select the system >icon. You will noy see a screen tab where you can change the >resolution. You will need to reboot the system after the change. > ok I understand now, my problem was I could only see one resolution here, namely 64x480, but I managed to correct this by installing later drivers (may not be the latest but certainly later than what I had when I installed Warp. Thanks for your quick reply. Wilson Yip From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 22:56:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22093; Fri, 25 Aug 95 22:56:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14431; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:51:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:51:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from linux.nicotra.com.sg by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA12395; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 22:23:03 -0400 Received: from nicotra.com.sg (wilson) by linux.nicotra.com.sg with SMTP id AA00925 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for < tp750@cs.utk.edu>); Sat, 26 Aug 1995 10:15:50 +0800 Message-Id: <199508260215.AA00925@linux.nicotra.com.sg> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 95 09:57:35 EDT From: Wilson Yip (Wilson Yip) Reply-To: wyip@nicotra.com.sg (Wilson Yip) To: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Yang Kuangying's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: WD90C24 for OS/2 On Fri, 25 Aug 95 02:32:03 -0400 you wrote: > >The driver that I mentioned in my message is more recent than the one >you refer to, and has been superseded by a yet more recent version, >available from "ftp.pcco.ibm.com": > >755wd101.exe 1480923 08-04-95 OS/2 Graphics Support-TP755 w/ WD90c24 > I downloaded this file after reading your mail and tried to do a comparision with WDC31P which I had installed and now run without any apparent problems (I dont have WinOS/2 installed). The Readme file is nearly identical with 2 glaring omissions in the recent version. One is that the earlier versions makes mention of the drivers being applicable for the 750, 755 and 360 range of Thinkpads whereas the recent version only mentions 755. Since the video system in all 3 models run on the same chip I wonder if this is just an typographical omission and not one of substance. The other omission is that the earlier version mentions creating a SVGADAT.PMI file in "5.0 Setting Up an External Monitor on a Laptop Computor" by booting a DOS diskette and running the Vesa driver in your harddisk boot partition. I tried this but forgot my C drive was formatted with HPFS! I dont't know the purpose of this PMI file, now it seems to have been left out of the later version's docs. I will skip 755WD101 unless someone can verify it runs on a 750. Moreover the APARs mentioned at the end of the two readme files are similar both in number and in kind. Wilson Yip From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Aug 25 23:09:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23293; Fri, 25 Aug 95 23:09:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15236; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 23:01:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 23:01:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from acoma.math.arizona.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA15221; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 23:01:09 -0400 Received: (from rychlik@localhost) by acoma.math.arizona.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) id UAA13278; Fri, 25 Aug 1995 20:00:43 -0700 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 1995 20:00:43 -0700 From: Marek Rychlik Message-Id: <199508260300.UAA13278@acoma.math.arizona.edu> To: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, pepersb@cuug.ab.ca In-Reply-To: Brad Pepers's message of Fri, 25 Aug 1995 14:40:20 -0600 (MDT) <199508252040.AA237003220@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: CD-ROM under Linux on ThinkPad755CD Brad, Your problems with the CD-ROM under Linux are very similar to mine (although my CD-ROM is built in). On a good side, yesterday I made a SCSI Toshiba CD-ROM work with a Bust Toaster PCMCIA card. It worked superbly. All I needed to do is 'mount -t iso9600 /dev/scd0 /cdrom' and I was done. The build in CD-ROM for 755CD is IDE ATAPI, and it was identified as such. but the file ide-cd.c in the kernel drivers/block directory seems to have bugs. Your Caldera drive is also ATAPI, so it points to the same source of problems. > A possibly related problem is that when I had the CDROM in my Thinkpad, > my PCMCIA Ethernet card (GVC NE2000 compat) was going nuts and I geting > errors. When I switched the Ethernet card to the second PCMCIA socket, > all was fine! ... This seems like a different problem, perhaps with the PCMCIA card. I use a Kingston EtheRx card and it appears to work fine in both PCMCIA slots. This one needs an entry in pcmcia/config which is a copy of the IBM Credit Card adapter's entry. Thank you. -- Marek R. Rychlik From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Aug 26 09:58:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08564; Sat, 26 Aug 95 09:58:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26415; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 09:46:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 09:46:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA26404; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 09:46:38 -0400 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com ([156.151.4.11]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id GAA23622; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 06:45:27 -0700 Received: (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id GAA06739; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 06:44:05 -0700 Received: from cc:Mail by espmail.email.com id AA809439187 Sat, 26 Aug 95 05:13:07 Date: Sat, 26 Aug 95 05:13:07 From: "Joe.Bormel" Encoding: 694 Text Message-Id: <9507268094.AA809439187@espmail.email.com> To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: re: IBM's new charger >>I bought one of the new small AC power supplies for my TP 755Cs. I'm >>noticing that while it powers the TP OK, it does NOT charge the >>battery. Has anyone else noticed this? Is this how it is supposed to >>work. In a way this is an advantage, since you can put a charged >>battery in the TP and work off AC power without worrying about >>overcharging the battery... >> Where are people learning about things like NEW AC POWER SUPPLIES? Is there a mail order company whose catalog lists ThinkPad Accessories? (The one I have only show the notebooks; no disks, docks, cases, etc with the prices.) What 'must have' items do people recommend for the DOCK II? -Joe From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Aug 26 17:46:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13203; Sat, 26 Aug 95 17:46:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22970; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 17:35:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 17:35:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA22937; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 17:35:26 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id RAA11615; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 17:40:12 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 17:40:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: "John H. Kim" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Suspend (was: IBM's new charger) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 25 Aug 1995, John H. Kim wrote: > On Fri, 25 Aug 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: > > > "Perhaps someone would like to try an experiment - with a run down > > battery, shut the cover and leave it on overnight. Mine charges in this > > condition all the time." > > > > But that is not the issue, if you shut the cover, the machine suspends, and > > of course it will charge in suspend mode. > > Off the topic, but you can change this behavior via the power > management settings. I found waking from a suspend didn't wake > up the PCMCIA devices, so my TP just turns off the screen when > I close the cover. Ditto (though for different reasons), so the "of course" doen't apply to me. And my 85% battery has charged up to 98% as I sat here and read mail, so that's not why my small charger charges the batt w/ the machine on. (Though the HD _was_ spun down most of that time...) ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Aug 26 17:49:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13232; Sat, 26 Aug 95 17:49:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23340; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 17:42:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 17:42:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23330; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 17:42:39 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id RAA13225; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 17:47:30 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 17:47:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: "Joe.Bormel" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: re: IBM's new charger In-Reply-To: <9507268094.AA809439187@espmail.email.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 26 Aug 1995, Joe.Bormel wrote: > Where are people learning about things like NEW AC POWER SUPPLIES? Why, from the BEST place to get TP info, of course- HERE! Oh, and since I am actually at home instead of the office (yep, it happens sometimes) I will tell everyone that the part number on my receipt for the "cigarette pack adaptor" - or the TP701 WW AC ADAPTER 3 PNG as IBM calls it - is 85G6680. Unit price was $49. and shipping to Miami from North Caroline was only $7.50 for overnight service. The number to call is 1-800-426-4440 if you want one. > Is there a mail order company whose catalog lists ThinkPad > Accessories? (The one I have only show the notebooks; no > disks, docks, cases, etc with the prices.) I find that too. There's a faxback service that I don't know the number for - you may be able to get it from the above number. > What 'must have' items do people recommend for the DOCK II? I'd tell ya if I had one. What's the best price anyone ever paid for one? I'm thinking about it or a Port Replicator 1, but the built in SCSI is enticing me to the DOCK.... ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Aug 26 17:54:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13997; Sat, 26 Aug 95 17:54:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23678; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 17:47:17 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 17:47:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA23668; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 17:47:09 -0400 Received: from dec3300.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA42472; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 15:45:30 -0600 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by dec3300.cuug.ab.ca (5.65//ident-1.0) id AA15720; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 15:41:35 -0600 Message-Id: <9508262141.AA15720@dec3300.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: 755CD & Linux success!!! To: rychlik@math.arizona.edu (Marek Rychlik) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 15:41:35 -0600 (MDT) Cc: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199508260300.UAA13278@acoma.math.arizona.edu> from "Marek Rychlik" at Aug 25, 95 08:00:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Brad, > Your problems with the CD-ROM under Linux are very similar to mine (although > my CD-ROM is built in). On a good side, yesterday I made a SCSI Toshiba > CD-ROM work with a Bust Toaster PCMCIA card. It worked superbly. All I > needed to do is 'mount -t iso9600 /dev/scd0 /cdrom' and I was done. > > The build in CD-ROM for 755CD is IDE ATAPI, and it was identified as such. > but the file ide-cd.c in the kernel drivers/block directory seems to have > bugs. Your Caldera drive is also ATAPI, so it points to the same source of > problems. Hmmm. Seems a bit of a misunderstanding. The Caldera is a CD, not a drive. It is a Linux installation like Slackware and just happens to be the first CD I've really tried to use with my 755CD. I am using the builtin CDROM drive of the 755CD and so am having the exact same problems as you! The good news is I stayed up almost all last night and finally fixed it! What I had to do was get the source code for linux/drivers/block/ ide-cd.c from the linux-1.3.0.tar.gz source code. The ide-cd.c code in this release mentioned a fix for some drives that sounded like our problem and when I copied it over and re-built my 1.2.11 Linux kernel, everything works great! As an added note - many thanks to someone who recently mentioned that some DSP stuff works if you boot DOS first and then Linux by using loadlin. I did that and I can now use audio-cds in my 755CD and have the sound go through to the speaker! Also I built a kernel with the sound stuff built-in and it says it found a Sound Blaster 2.0 card. Sadly when I tried to use linuxxdoom all I got was load-white noise (and I think an error from sndserver about can't play 16bit sounds or something?). So at least a little but works and I'm going to play around with the Soundblaster stuff some more and maybe I can get it working without even writing Linux MWave drivers! > > A possibly related problem is that when I had the CDROM in my Thinkpad, > > my PCMCIA Ethernet card (GVC NE2000 compat) was going nuts and I geting > > errors. When I switched the Ethernet card to the second PCMCIA socket, > > all was fine! ... > > This seems like a different problem, perhaps with the PCMCIA card. > I use a Kingston EtheRx card and it appears to work fine in both PCMCIA > slots. This one needs an entry in pcmcia/config which is a copy of the > IBM Credit Card adapter's entry. Yes I figured it was more card related but thought maybe it had some bearing... > Thank you. > -- Marek R. Rychlik +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 27 17:05:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06968; Sun, 27 Aug 95 17:05:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10584; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 16:48:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 16:48:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from globalvision.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10574; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 16:48:49 -0400 Received: by globalvision.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01590; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 16:39:08 +0500 Message-Id: <9508272039.AA01590@ globalvision.net> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Jane Loyless Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 16:44:50 EST Reply-To: Jane Loyless Subject: re: IBM's new charger ** Reply to note from Ted Baker 08/25/95 2:21pm GMT We were having the same problem (new smaller adapter wouldn't charge the battery while the machine was on) on a TP755C. To correct it, we applied the most recent bios and utility updates from the PCC BBS. We aren't sure which one actually fixed it because we didn't check it out between the two updates, but it's charging normally now. Hope this helps! Jane From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 27 17:05:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06973; Sun, 27 Aug 95 17:05:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10686; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 16:49:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 16:49:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from iehpc.ihosteng.priv.no by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA10638; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 16:49:06 -0400 Received: from iehpc.ihosteng.priv.no (ivarhpc.ihosteng.priv.no [193.213.233.12]) by iehpc.ihosteng.priv.no (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA08516 for ; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 22:48:58 +0200 Message-Id: <199508272048.WAA08516@iehpc.ihosteng.priv.no> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.03) From: "Ivar E. Hosteng" To: Thinkpad list Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 22:40:25 CET Reply-To: "Ivar E. Hosteng" Subject: Getting sound on a 755CX under os/2 warp After the struggle I had getting X to work in 800x600 under linux, I now have tried to get sound under OS/2 Warp connect. This however has not been a sucess. Before the desktop is opened i get 3 short beeps from the system and no system sounds work. The Mvawe modem does not work either. The DSP chip is enabled and using the following IRQs, DMA , and IP ports DSP IO=4E30h, IRQ=10, DMA=7 Soundblaster emulation: IO=220h, IRQ=5, DMA=1 I also use a IBM Creditcard Ethernet II adapter (IO=0300h, IRQ=9) and a Nokia GSM modem card (COM2) Does anyone have any solution on this? Regards, Ivar E. Hosteng email: Ivarh@ihosteng.priv.no From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 27 18:10:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14111; Sun, 27 Aug 95 18:10:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15046; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 17:58:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 17:58:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15036; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 17:58:52 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id OAA09861; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 14:58:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199508272158.OAA09861@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 95 15:01:30 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: jloyless@globalvision.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: re: IBM's new charger On Sun, 27 Aug 1995 16:44:50 EST you wrote: > >** Reply to note from Ted Baker >08/25/95 2:21pm GMT > >We were having the same problem (new smaller adapter wouldn't >charge the battery while the machine was on) on a TP755C. To >correct it, we applied the most recent bios and utility updates >from the PCC BBS. We aren't sure which one actually fixed it >because we didn't check it out between the two updates, but it's >charging normally now. > >Hope this helps! Is there somewhere on the net that I can get the latest 755Cs bios update? Roger J. Buffington AB6WR USC Law, Class of '97 Go Trojans! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from | | them (Native Americans). There were great numbers of people who | | needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it | | for themsleves." - John Wayne (actor) | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 27 18:15:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14460; Sun, 27 Aug 95 18:15:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15685; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 18:06:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 18:06:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from pigseye.mmm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15675; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 18:06:24 -0400 From: Received: by pigseye.mmm.com (1.37.109.16/SMI-4.1) id AA155621220; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 17:07:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199508272206.AA155521218@pigseye.mmm.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is Organization: 3M To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, Jane Loyless Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 17:05:30 +0000 Subject: re: IBM's new charger Reply-To: ramendenhall@mmm.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) > To: tp750@cs.utk.edu > From: Jane Loyless > Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 16:44:50 EST > Reply-to: Jane Loyless > Subject: re: IBM's new charger > > ** Reply to note from Ted Baker > 08/25/95 2:21pm GMT > > We were having the same problem (new smaller adapter wouldn't > charge the battery while the machine was on) on a TP755C. To > correct it, we applied the most recent bios and utility updates > from the PCC BBS. We aren't sure which one actually fixed it > because we didn't check it out between the two updates, but it's > charging normally now. > > Hope this helps! > > > > > Jane > > I am having the same problem as the original poster. My charger will charge the battery when my TP 755C is turned off, but not when I am using it. Which version of the BIOS are you using? I upgraded my BIOS to part # 91G0724 / power management version 1.21 about a month ago. Is there a newer version available? I am also using Windows 95 could that be part of the problem (no flames please :-) ). Regards, Rod Mendenhall, Jr. RAMENDENHALL@MMM.COM 612-737-4746 These are my thoughts, comments, & opinions. Not 3M's... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 27 18:46:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17111; Sun, 27 Aug 95 18:46:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17706; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 18:37:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 18:37:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17693; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 18:37:27 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA16826; Sun, 27 Aug 95 18:37:42 -0400 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 95 18:37:42 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508272237.AA16826@nile.gnat.com> To: ivarh@ihosteng.priv.no, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Getting sound on a 755CX under os/2 warp I have no problem running the Mwave modem under Warp, but I did need the special instructions that IBM faxed me to get it setup properly. I got these from IBM support. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 27 19:28:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18955; Sun, 27 Aug 95 19:28:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19563; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 19:16:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 19:16:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA19553; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 19:16:43 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA01205; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 19:16:24 -0400 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 19:16:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: "Roger J. Buffington" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: re: IBM's new charger In-Reply-To: <199508272158.OAA09861@chaph.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 27 Aug 1995, Roger J. Buffington wrote: > Is there somewhere on the net that I can get the latest 755Cs bios > update? ftp.pcco.ibm.com, in /pub/mobiles. Get the index in the /pub directory first. IBM might have rearranged the directories recently, but the one you want is still named mobiles. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 27 20:12:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21121; Sun, 27 Aug 95 20:12:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21572; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 20:02:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 20:02:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ada.cs.fsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA21562; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 20:02:38 -0400 Received: by ada.cs.fsu.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id AAA00413; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 00:03:46 GMT Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 00:03:46 GMT From: Ted Baker Message-Id: <199508280003.AAA00413@ada.cs.fsu.edu> To: ivarh@ihosteng.priv.no, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Getting sound on a 755CX under os/2 warp Ivar, You mentioned again that you apparently have gotten X to work in 800x600 under Linux on your 755CX: | After the struggle I had getting X to work in 800x600 under linux... I asked, on 25 August, in reply to an earlier posting of yours in which you made a simlilar statement, how you did this. As I have not heard any reply, I'll risk asking again, in case the message was lost. How did you do this? I have not been able to get it to work. I am using the XFree86 V3.1.2 SVGA driver, with the settings and other suggestions posted to this mailing list by David Fox in his "mini-HOWTO" 23 August. Though I have no problem getting the higher resolution using an external monitor, with the LCD I still get the same result I mentioned in my earlier posting: | The effect I get (still) is a display in which the upper 2/3 consists | of alternate horizontal lines of white and black, about 1 pixel thick, | and the lower third of the screen is black, with a narrow white vertical | bar about 1/4" wide. Any help will be most appreciated. --Ted Baker From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 27 20:26:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22065; Sun, 27 Aug 95 20:26:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22074; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 20:16:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 20:16:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blob.best.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22064; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 20:16:17 -0400 From: Received: from shell1.best.com (shell1.best.com [204.156.128.10]) by blob.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA17566 for ; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 17:16:12 -0700 Received: from 204.156.137.12 (sandy.vip.best.com [204.156.137.12]) by shell1.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA07986 for ; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 17:16:10 -0700 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 17:16:10 -0700 Message-Id: <199508280016.RAA07986@shell1.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Suspend Mode Problem under Windows95?? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 Hi All, Has anyone experienced power management problems using Windows95? Although I've been using Windows95 on my 755CX for a couple of months, I just noticed that "Suspend Mode" (Fn+F4) does not work. If I close the cover or press Fn+F4, the ThinkPad reacts like it's going to implement my command (momentary disk access, etc.), but does nothing. Standby Mode seems to work okay (display turns off). As far as I know, I'm running the most recent firmware and IBM support software. I'm using the "preview version" of Windows95 (build 490), but I'm about to install the "official release" (build 950) if this will make any difference. Comments. Suggestions? Thanks. P.S. - Although this may not have anything to do specifically with ThinkPads, I still can't get Windows95's power management to work with my NEC XP-21 monitor eventhough it is fully "Energy Star compliant". Power management (standby, suspend, etc.) worked great under WFWG, but not at all under Windows95. Is there a problem here? _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ _ ( @ @ ) _ | |------.oOOo--()--oOOo.--------| | | | Internet : sandy@sandy.com | | | |--------------- Oooo.---------| | | | .oooO ( ) | | | | ( ) ) / | | | | \ ( (_/ | | | | \_) | | | | |\ _,,,---,,_ | | | | zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_.. | | | | |,*< ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' | | | | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | | ^ ^ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Aug 27 21:34:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28950; Sun, 27 Aug 95 21:34:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26199; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 21:24:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 21:24:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from micros.micros.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA26188; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 21:24:00 -0400 Received: from smtplink.micros.com by micros.micros.com id aa27661; 27 Aug 95 21:23 EDT Received: from cc:Mail by smtplink.micros.com id AA809583611; Sun, 27 Aug 95 21:23:20 EST Date: Sun, 27 Aug 95 21:23:20 EST From: "Gerber, Josh" Message-Id: <9507278095.AA809583611@smtplink.micros.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, sandy@sandy.com Mmdf-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at micros.micros.com Subject: Re: Suspend Mode Problem under Windows95?? I'm still using final beta (build 347) on my 755Cs, and had problems until I upgraded the bios to the new version (1.30?). I don't use the Fn-F4 method, though...I use the suspend feature on the start menu. Works beautifully. I've also seen quite a bit of nastiness in general with build 490...that's why I didn't upgrade to it. More problems than the earlier build. -josh ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Suspend Mode Problem under Windows95?? Author: at SMTPLINK-Micros Date: 8/27/95 8:35 PM Hi All, Has anyone experienced power management problems using Windows95? Although I've been using Windows95 on my 755CX for a couple of months, I just noticed that "Suspend Mode" (Fn+F4) does not work. If I close the cover or press Fn+F4, the ThinkPad reacts like it's going to implement my command (momentary disk access, etc.), but does nothing. Standby Mode seems to work okay (display turns off). As far as I know, I'm running the most recent firmware and IBM support software. I'm using the "preview version" of Windows95 (build 490), but I'm about to install the "official release" (build 950) if this will make any difference. Comments. Suggestions? Thanks. P.S. - Although this may not have anything to do specifically with ThinkPads, I still can't get Windows95's power management to work with my NEC XP-21 monitor eventhough it is fully "Energy Star compliant". Power management (standby, suspend, etc.) worked great under WFWG, but not at all under Windows95. Is there a problem here? _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ _ ( @ @ ) _ | |------.oOOo--()--oOOo.--------| | | | Internet : sandy@sandy.com | | | |--------------- Oooo.---------| | | | .oooO ( ) | | | | ( ) ) / | | | | \ ( (_/ | | | | \_) | | | | |\ _,,,---,,_ | | | | zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_.. | | | | |,*< ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' | | | | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | | ^ ^ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 01:28:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17690; Mon, 28 Aug 95 01:28:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11146; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 01:17:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 01:17:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA11128; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 01:17:20 -0400 Received: from dec3300.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA54272; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 23:15:33 -0600 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by dec3300.cuug.ab.ca (5.65//ident-1.0) id AA20551; Sun, 27 Aug 1995 23:11:41 -0600 Message-Id: <9508280511.AA20551@dec3300.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: Getting sound on a 755CX under os/2 warp To: baker@ada.cs.fsu.edu (Ted Baker) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 23:11:40 -0600 (MDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199508280003.AAA00413@ada.cs.fsu.edu> from "Ted Baker" at Aug 28, 95 00:03:46 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit More info on the Linux/755CD front. I have now verified that the Soundblaster emulation also works if you boot into DOS first, load the drivers (mwgames on cd), and then boot Linux using loadlin. I was trying to use doom to test the sound but its sound server only supports 16bit and the Sound Blaster is 8 bit. I later found some other samples and played them fine! So this is now the CDROM audio and Sound Blaster that work! Now I guess I'll check if the modem works too! I'm very happy that this is working and hope someone will but this info on one of the WWW Thinkpad sites. I think it makes the 755 Thinkpad models excellent Linux machines. +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 02:33:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21700; Mon, 28 Aug 95 02:33:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13755; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 02:22:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 02:22:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13745; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 02:22:08 -0400 Received: from CHARM.HEPTH.CORNELL.EDU by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) with SMTP id AA18412; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 02:17:23 -0400 Message-Id: <9508280617.AA18412@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: Re: Suspend Mode Problem under Windows95?? To: sandy@sandy.com Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 02:21:41 -0400 (EDT) From: lrj@hepth.cornell.edu (Lew Jansen) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199508280016.RAA07986@shell1.best.com> from "sandy@sandy.com" at Aug 27, 95 05:16:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Suspend works fine with my SVGA 755CX and the release version of Win95, whether I close the cover, hit Fn+F4, or select Suspend under the Start menu. HOWEVER, it behaves like Sandy's machine if it's on AC power and has my 3Com 3C589B ethernet PCMCIA card inserted. Disconnect the AC power or stop and remove the ethercard and it suspends just fine. -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 06:47:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03497; Mon, 28 Aug 95 06:47:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA05607; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 06:33:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 06:33:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.inforamp.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA05597; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 06:33:12 -0400 Received: from ts10-12.InfoRamp.Net (ts2-10) by mail.inforamp.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA27090; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 06:29:18 +0500 Message-Id: <9508281029.AA27090@mail.inforamp.net> X-Sender: valliant@micomtech.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 05:21:23 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: valliant@micomtech.com (Hugh Valliant) Subject: 755 & Windows 95 Help?? I just loaded Windows 95 into my 755CE and everything worked fine. I shut my machine off. Later, I started my machine up...sequence was ok until the power managment line was being executed. Then my machine hung solid... Can't even turn it off now. Any ideas or suggestions?? It's 11 o'clock at night so I can't phone Microsoft. Thanks in advance Hugh ========================================== MI-COM Technology Computer Solutions for Small Business Hugh A. Valliant Bus. (416) 726-5355 Fax. (416) 699-3847 Internet valliant@micomtech.com http://www.micomtech.com/~valliant/ ========================================== From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 06:47:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03496; Mon, 28 Aug 95 06:47:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA05426; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 06:30:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 06:30:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from iehpc.ihosteng.priv.no by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA05364; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 06:30:10 -0400 Received: (from ivarh@localhost) by iehpc.ihosteng.priv.no (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA10626; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:29:38 +0200 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:29:38 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Ivar E. Hosteng" To: Ted Baker Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Getting sound on a 755CX under os/2 warp In-Reply-To: <199508280003.AAA00413@ada.cs.fsu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The reason I did not reply to your message was that the solution I used was posted in this mailing list the same day. The way to do the is to boot into dos and run the PS2 MODE3X ON command after this use loadlin to boot linux. You may also need to patch the file /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/setup.S to make use of all 37 lines on the display. Regards, Ivar E. hosteng email: ivar@ihosten.priv.no From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 07:14:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08942; Mon, 28 Aug 95 07:14:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07336; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 07:06:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 07:06:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA07324; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 07:06:02 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0083; Tue, 29 Aug 95 07:00:48 -0400 Message-Id: <9508291100.AA0083@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id D6F4020D18A66D9585256226003C1226; Tue, 29 Aug 95 07:00:47 To: tp750 From: Gary Moore/VENTANA Date: 28 Aug 95 6:58:17 Subject: suspend recovery problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Occasionaly, when my TP755CD suspends, (specifically if I open the keyboard to swap the 3.5 for the CD-ROM) the machine will not "wake up"......I open the keyboard to a blank screen and the only way to get it back is to turn it off and start over.... Any suggestions...... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 08:02:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10715; Mon, 28 Aug 95 08:02:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA09438; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 07:53:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 07:53:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mwunix.mitre.org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA09427; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 07:53:24 -0400 Received: from cyclone.mitre.org (cyclone.mitre.org [128.29.86.13]) by mwunix.mitre.org (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id HAA16604 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 07:53:22 -0400 Received: from mwppp6.mitre.org by cyclone.mitre.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11206; Mon, 28 Aug 95 07:53:22 EDT Message-Id: <9508281153.AA11206@cyclone.mitre.org> X-Sender: dhite@cyclone X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 07:53:29 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: David Hite Subject: What are these files? I have two files that I can't erase from my 755CX. One is called "ea data. sf" and the other is called "wp root. sf". Yes, there are spaces in the names. Are these OS2 files? I tried to erase OS2 from my system, but I'm thinking these files may not have gotten erased. The first one occupies almost 7 megabytes, so I'd like to get rid of it. When I try to delete it, file manager says "Cannot delete ea_data._sf: Cannot find file". Anybody know how to get rid of these files? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 08:47:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12577; Mon, 28 Aug 95 08:47:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11067; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 08:27:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 08:27:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from globalvision.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA11054; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 08:27:09 -0400 Received: by globalvision.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA05302; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 08:17:33 +0500 Message-Id: <9508281217.AA05302@ globalvision.net> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Jane Loyless Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 08:23:14 EST Reply-To: Jane Loyless Subject: re: IBM's new charger Roger and Rod, The machine that was having the problems with the new charger is not in our office right now, and I didn't keep the files for the update. However, here is the URL for where I got the files: http://www.pc.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ftpfiles?action=list&dir=34 Hope this helps! Jane cc: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 09:33:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15399; Mon, 28 Aug 95 09:33:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15031; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 09:23:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 09:23:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kitten.mcs.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA15019; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 09:23:42 -0400 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA05691; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 08:23:40 -0500 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Mon, 28 Aug 95 08:23 CDT Received: by mars.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Mon, 28 Aug 95 08:23 CDT Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 08:23:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeff Fayne Subject: Re: What are these files? To: David Hite Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9508281153.AA11206@cyclone.mitre.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 28 Aug 1995, David Hite wrote: > I have two files that I can't erase from my 755CX. One is called > "ea data. sf" and the other is called "wp root. sf". Yes, there are > spaces in the names. Are these OS2 files? I tried to erase OS2 from Can't help you on id'ing these but: > my system, but I'm thinking these files may not have gotten erased. > The first one occupies almost 7 megabytes, so I'd like to get rid of > it. When I try to delete it, file manager says > "Cannot delete ea_data._sf: Cannot find file". > Anybody know how to get rid of these files? > Try: del ea?data.?sf del wp?root.?sf I don't think '*' will delete file with space in them but '?' will. - Jeff From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 10:08:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18000; Mon, 28 Aug 95 10:08:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18523; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 09:59:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 09:59:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18513; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 09:59:09 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA04270; Mon, 28 Aug 95 09:59:36 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 95 09:59:36 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508281359.AA04270@nile.gnat.com> To: dhite@mitre.org, fayne@mcs.com Subject: Re: What are these files? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Another way to get rid of these files is to boot OS/2 from diskette, break out to the command line (obviously you don't want to actually install), and use the OS/2 erase to get rid of these files del "ea?data.?sf" which will certainly work. To boot OS/2 from diskettes, just start the installation process, and then break out with ESC when it asks you what you want to do. You will then be at an OS/2 command prompt. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 10:25:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18836; Mon, 28 Aug 95 10:25:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19796; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 10:13:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 10:13:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA19785; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 10:13:08 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.32] (mac32.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA13845; Mon, 28 Aug 95 10:13:01 EDT Message-Id: <9508281413.AA13845@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 10:25:55 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: What are these files? >On Mon, 28 Aug 1995, David Hite wrote: > >> I have two files that I can't erase from my 755CX. One is called >> "ea data. sf" and the other is called "wp root. sf". Yes, there are >> spaces in the names. Are these OS2 files? I tried to erase OS2 from > >Can't help you on id'ing these but: These files include OS/2 extended attributes (such as long file names) on FAT drives. It's a bit of a kluge fix for an archaic file system. I understand that Win 95 uses a similar, though less capable, system. With this in mind, it is understandable why they make these files difficult to delete. These files don't exist on NTFS or HPFS drives, as extended attributes are included in the individual files. ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 10:30:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19062; Mon, 28 Aug 95 10:30:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20238; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 10:18:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 10:18:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA20220; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 10:18:12 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id KAA29423; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 10:22:58 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 10:22:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Thinkpad List Subject: PCCO file locations In-Reply-To: <9508281217.AA05302@ globalvision.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 28 Aug 1995, Jane Loyless wrote: > The machine that was having the problems with the new charger > is not in our office right now, and I didn't keep the files for the > update. However, here is the URL for where I got the files: > > http://www.pc.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ftpfiles?action=list&dir=34 Boy, IBM really has popped a chubby for those Cserve file locations - that's the number of the file library on the IBM compuserve forum. I wonder if they mirror off of _there_ somehow? (Or perhaps they mirror this site _to_ compuserve...) ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 10:50:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20195; Mon, 28 Aug 95 10:50:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21953; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 10:37:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 10:37:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA21943; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 10:37:04 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sn5Jr-0004u0C; Mon, 28 Aug 95 09:37 CDT Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sn5Jp-0002ncC; Mon, 28 Aug 95 09:37 CDT Message-Id: X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.03) From: Scott Stratmoen To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu To: Thinkpad Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 09:35:34 CST Reply-To: strat@dsd.northrop.com Subject: Re: OS/2 Warp - Changing Resolutions *DANGER* Addressed to: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu Thinkpad ** Reply to note from kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu 08/25/95 5:43pm +0100 > Do not do this if you are using video features disk v.1.33!!!! > > I just did, and scrambled video on my tp750 in a big way. > > Before you do anything, look at the readme.os2 file on the video features > disk. It will save you lots of grief. > The stated procedure is for the WARP video drivers only. The drivers which are shipped by the mobiles group use a different method. Sorry for the confusion.  ___ Scott A. Stratmoen Northrop Grumman strat@dsd.northrop.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 11:33:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23176; Mon, 28 Aug 95 11:33:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26736; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 11:23:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 11:23:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from aaRS.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26715; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 11:23:21 -0400 Received: by aaRS.mit.edu (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA04145; Mon, 28 Aug 95 11:18:33 -0400 From: "Arturo J. Morales" Message-Id: <9508281118.ZM4143@aaRS.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 11:18:31 -0400 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Where to get a bigger HD? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 After endless ambivalence in deciding between a new HD and more memory for my TP750Cs, I have decided that I need a new HD. (170mb is not enough...) And since I can now afford one, I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions about where to get one... I'm hoping for a 540mb HD with or without the case (so it does not have to be an IBM) and will consider used drives and other sizes... I know that this has been discussed to death in this list, but all the info I have is some months old. So please excuse my waste of bandwitdh and thanks in advance for your help... Art -- Arturo J. Morales (RPI '94) | art@aars.mit.edu Department of Biology | Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology http://minihelix.mit.edu/top.html | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 11:33:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23181; Mon, 28 Aug 95 11:33:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26908; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 11:24:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 11:24:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mwunix.mitre.org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA26887; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 11:24:45 -0400 Received: from cyclone.mitre.org (cyclone.mitre.org [128.29.86.13]) by mwunix.mitre.org (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id LAA20506; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 11:24:42 -0400 Received: from dhite-pc.mitre.org by cyclone.mitre.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03051; Mon, 28 Aug 95 11:24:43 EDT Message-Id: <9508281524.AA03051@cyclone.mitre.org> X-Sender: dhite@cyclone X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 11:24:40 -0400 To: Charlie Turner From: David Hite Subject: Re: What are these files? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU >Try doing an > >attrib -s -h -r \ea*.* > >followed by a > >del ea*.* Worked like a charm! Thanks very much. David From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 11:35:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23560; Mon, 28 Aug 95 11:35:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27275; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 11:28:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 11:28:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from incog.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27265; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 11:28:37 -0400 Received: from ono-sendai.incog.com by incog.com (SMI-8.6/94082501) id IAA16215; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 08:28:21 -0700 Received: by ono-sendai.incog.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07622; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 08:28:24 -0700 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 08:28:24 -0700 From: asdf@ono-sendai.incog.com (Glenn Scott) Message-Id: <9508281528.AA07622@ono-sendai.incog.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Linux 755CE w/ Dock I X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Hi all, I'm trying to configure Linux (kernel 1.2.8) to use my CDROM in my Dock I. I have read the "Linux on the IBM ThinkPad" paper, but the section on configuring for a Dock I CDROM is not clear to me. I have probed the SCSI card and it does identify itself as an "IBM F1 BIOS V1.2009/23/93" so that matches what I expected. But it's clear that there is more. So, does anyone have a description of what I need to do to get this going? Actually, I have yet to get the mouse to work as well... Thanks in advance, Glenn From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 12:25:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26935; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:25:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00758; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:06:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:06:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from polaris.cv.nrao.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00734; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:05:59 -0400 Received: by polaris.cv.nrao.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA41751; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:05:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:05:50 -0400 From: awootten@polaris.cv.nrao.edu (Al Wootten) Message-Id: <9508281605.AA41751@polaris.cv.nrao.edu> To: art@aaRS.mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Where to get a bigger HD? Cc: awootten@polaris.cv.nrao.edu TPers, I'm interested in a bigger HD for my TP355cs. Are there any folks out there with advice for me? Thanks in advance! Clear skies, Al +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Alwyn Wootten (http://www.cv.nrao.edu/~awootten/) | | Astronomer, National Radio Astronomy Observatory | | 520 Edgemont Road, Charlottesville, VA 22903-2475, USA| | (804)-296-0329 voice Let's build The Millimeter Array| | (804)-296-0278 FAX {> {> {> {> | +------------------------------^-----^-----^-----^------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 12:27:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26942; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:27:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02208; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:20:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:20:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02192; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:20:44 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA01934; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:20:21 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:20:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: "Arturo J. Morales" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Where to get a bigger HD? In-Reply-To: <9508281118.ZM4143@aaRS.mit.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 28 Aug 1995, Arturo J. Morales wrote: > After endless ambivalence in deciding between a new HD and more > memory for my TP750Cs, I have decided that I need a new HD. (170mb > is not enough...) And since I can now afford one, I was wondering > if anyone has any suggestions about where to get one... I'm hoping > for a 540mb HD with or without the case (so it does not have to be > an IBM) and will consider used drives and other sizes... The standard site for this info is http://www.shadow.net/~dwhite/thinkpad.html Unfortunately, the info there is somewhat dated. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 12:36:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27754; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:36:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03225; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:30:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:30:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03200; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:30:18 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id MAA01249; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:35:02 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:35:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: "Arturo J. Morales" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Where to get a bigger HD? In-Reply-To: <9508281118.ZM4143@aaRS.mit.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 28 Aug 1995, Arturo J. Morales wrote: [re: HD source] > I know that this has been discussed to death in this list, but all the info I > have is some months old. So please excuse my waste of bandwitdh and thanks in > advance for your help... The Road Warrior Co (http://www.roadwarrior.com) now has the slim height Toshiba 800M jobbies at a price only about $140 or so more than the 540M drives are on average. I'd encourage you to just drop the change now as more and more fatware is coming out and the TP is a one drive design. Might as well make SURE you'll be able to do what you want... ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 12:37:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27765; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:37:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03001; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:29:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:29:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA02991; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:29:40 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA01968; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:29:05 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:29:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: Don Whiteside Cc: Thinkpad List Subject: Re: PCCO file locations In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 28 Aug 1995, Don Whiteside wrote: > On Mon, 28 Aug 1995, Jane Loyless wrote: > > > http://www.pc.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ftpfiles?action=list&dir=34 > > Boy, IBM really has popped a chubby for those Cserve file locations - > that's the number of the file library on the IBM compuserve forum. I > wonder if they mirror off of _there_ somehow? (Or perhaps they mirror > this site _to_ compuserve...) If you grab a file from the above site, it connects to the host 198.133.22.2 at port 2280. I tried the following: ^^^ > % nslookup compuserve.com > > Server: control > Address: 0.0.0.0 > > Name: compuserve.com > Addresses: 198.4.6.2, 198.4.6.3, 198.4.8.1, 198.4.8.2 > 198.4.6.1 ^^^ Hmmmmmm ... ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 12:38:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27781; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:38:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03482; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:32:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:32:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03459; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:31:49 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id MAA01696; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:36:24 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:36:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Al Wootten Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Where to get a bigger HD? In-Reply-To: <9508281605.AA41751@polaris.cv.nrao.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 28 Aug 1995, Al Wootten wrote: > I'm interested in a bigger HD for my TP355cs. Are there any folks out > there with advice for me? There is a multitude of intormation (including some archived old messages) on http://www.shadow.net/~dwhite/thinkpad.html ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 12:42:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28122; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:42:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03820; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:37:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:37:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03810; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:37:08 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA01996; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:36:44 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:36:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: Don Whiteside , Thinkpad List Subject: Re: PCCO file locations In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 28 Aug 1995, John H. Kim wrote: > > Name: compuserve.com > > Addresses: 198.4.6.2, 198.4.6.3, 198.4.8.1, 198.4.8.2 > > 198.4.6.1 > ^^^ > Hmmmmmm ... Never mind, I just found out that CGI scripts make it look like it's getting the file from the machine you're connected to (www.pc.ibm.com is 198.133.22.1). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 12:45:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28140; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:45:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03962; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:39:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:39:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03951; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:39:26 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id MAA03776; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:44:07 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:44:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: "John H. Kim" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Where to get a bigger HD? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 28 Aug 1995, John H. Kim wrote: > The standard site for this info is > > http://www.shadow.net/~dwhite/thinkpad.html > > Unfortunately, the info there is somewhat dated. Gee, funny you should mention that. One of my projects here at work is a machine that I've plopped the Netscape server onto, and with the T1 link just around the corner (it's currently a HORRID 56K pipe.. ew.) I was thinking of moving the Thinkpad page over there. Now, it's not worth doing unless I spruce it up a bit, and the things I'd like to see improved are: some archived or linked TP tech documents An improved HD upgrade page A list of memory sources we've all had positive experiences with Links to other Thinkpad pages Links to Linux on Thinkpad pages/info Links to FreeBSD " " " Links to OS/2 " " " Links to Lose95 " " " An HTMLized FAQ (if possible) with links to tips and stuff Majordomo "how to unsubscribe" info and stuff etc I'll be glad to coordinate and implement, but I need some assistance. Is there sufficient interest? The current home of the page has some serious storage limitations, but the new one I can spare 50M or so easy. If there are any takers of people who'd like to be involved, email me and let me know. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 13:08:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00098; Mon, 28 Aug 95 13:08:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05740; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:59:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:59:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from aaRS.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05720; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:59:50 -0400 Received: by aaRS.mit.edu (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA04942; Mon, 28 Aug 95 12:55:03 -0400 From: "Arturo J. Morales" Message-Id: <9508281255.ZM4940@aaRS.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:55:01 -0400 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Road Warrior Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Has anyone had any success getting better prices from Roadwarrior? I wonder if they will be willing to drop their prices a little and make me REALLY happy... It was worth a shot... Art -- Arturo J. Morales (RPI '94) | art@aars.mit.edu Department of Biology | Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology http://minihelix.mit.edu/top.html | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 13:26:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00322; Mon, 28 Aug 95 13:26:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07202; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 13:17:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 13:17:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mwunix.mitre.org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA07187; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 13:17:49 -0400 Received: from cyclone.mitre.org (cyclone.mitre.org [128.29.86.13]) by mwunix.mitre.org (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id NAA05131 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 13:17:47 -0400 Received: from dhite-pc.mitre.org by cyclone.mitre.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13545; Mon, 28 Aug 95 13:17:48 EDT Message-Id: <9508281717.AA13545@cyclone.mitre.org> X-Sender: dhite@cyclone X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 13:17:45 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: David Hite Subject: Disk slower in 755CX Here's a weird one: I have a 755CSE and I just got a 755CX to replace it. While transferring files from one machine to the other, I noticed that the CX disk seemed to be a little slower than the CSE disk. Both are 810MB disks. I did a Norton sysinfo for the disks and came up with 12.4 for the CSE and 10.0 for the CX, confirming my subjective feeling that the CX disk was slower. So I tried switching disks. I put the CSE's disk in the CX, and vice-versa, then ran sysinfo again. The disk in the CX was still rated at ~10.0 and the one in the CSE was still rated at ~12.4. So I guess the slower speed of the disk comes from the machine, but I don't understand why. I guess I assumed that the 100Mhz CSE and the 75Mhz CX would have similar disk bus speeds, or at least that the CX would not be _slower_ than the CSE, but that appears not to be true. Has anybody else done a similar experiment? Are other explanations possible? David From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 16:13:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15484; Mon, 28 Aug 95 16:13:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21558; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 15:57:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 15:57:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ada.cs.fsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21546; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 15:57:03 -0400 Received: by ada.cs.fsu.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA02446; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 19:58:23 GMT Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 19:58:23 GMT From: Ted Baker Message-Id: <199508281958.TAA02446@ada.cs.fsu.edu> To: dhite@mitre.org, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Disk slower in 755CX By my naive understading of such things a 100MHz processor runs on a 33MHz bus, whereas a 75MHz processor on a 25MHz bus. Moreover, the TP755CX does not have any wider bus than the 755CSE-- i.e. both are 32-bit VESA bus. Thus, the CX IS a slower machine in some respects than the CSE, especially for operations that involve data transfers over the memory bus. Moreover, the Pentium being a 64-bit processor, I would also expect some tendency toward memory starvation, even for those computations where the wider register size might pay off. Until IBM gets around to putting a 100MHz Pentium in, the benefit of upgrading is not clear. --Ted Baker From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 16:50:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18401; Mon, 28 Aug 95 16:50:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25914; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 16:39:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 16:39:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA25897; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 16:39:49 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id QAA08401; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 16:44:32 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 16:44:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: David Hite Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Disk slower in 755CX In-Reply-To: <9508281717.AA13545@cyclone.mitre.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It's a suprise to me, however IDE drives _are_ PIO, meaning that the CPU is involved in the transfer of data. I'm amazed that would have any impact - the disk is SO much slower than the CPU or memory - but it's theoretically possible that the recovery time from all those interrupts is marginally faster on the faster computer. However, that big a difference... I'd be highly skeptical it could be related to the computer's speed. ========================================================================= Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 17:10:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20540; Mon, 28 Aug 95 17:10:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27277; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 16:53:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 16:53:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GSBVXB.UCHICAGO.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA27267; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 16:53:22 -0400 Message-Id: <199508282053.QAA27267@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from gsbdwd by GSBVXB.UCHICAGO.EDU with SMTP; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 15:50:04 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: fac_doug@gsbvax.uchicago.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 15:52:28 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: doug diamond Subject: Do early thinkpad 750 cases accept replacement HD's? There was some discussion once that early TP750's with 170MB HDs had a case that was not the same as later ones (eg. later 170MB disk cases were the same as the 340MB disk case). Does anyone know if the early 170 case will still work with a new 12mm drive (e.g. the Toshiba 810MB)? Any advice on this upgrade? Thanks. Doug Diamond University of Chicago From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 17:26:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21669; Mon, 28 Aug 95 17:26:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29267; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 17:14:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 17:14:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA29257; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 17:14:12 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17221; Mon, 28 Aug 95 13:32:14 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) id NAA02390; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 13:31:48 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9508281331.ZM2388@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 13:31:44 -0700 In-Reply-To: Ted Baker "Re: Disk slower in 755CX" (Aug 28, 7:58pm) References: <199508281958.TAA02446@ada.cs.fsu.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: Ted Baker , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Disk slower in 755CX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Aug 28, 7:58pm, Ted Baker wrote: > Subject: Re: Disk slower in 755CX > > Moreover, the Pentium being a 64-bit processor, I would also > expect some tendency toward memory starvation, even for those > computations where the wider register size might pay off. > >-- End of excerpt from Ted Baker The Pentium is a 32-bit processor. Yes, it has an external 64-bit address and data path, but the internal chip architecture is 32-bits wide. Each 64-bit transaction on the local bus is broken up into 2 32-bit transactions internal to the chip. Robert George Army Research Lab From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 17:32:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22184; Mon, 28 Aug 95 17:32:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00382; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 17:23:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 17:23:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amethyst.math.arizona.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00364; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 17:23:39 -0400 Received: from alamos.math.arizona.edu (alamos.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.32]) by amethyst.math.arizona.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id OAA23803; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 14:23:31 -0700 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 95 14:23:23 MST From: "Marek Rychlik" Message-Id: <9508282123.AA00743@alamos.math.arizona.edu> Received: by alamos.math.arizona.edu; Mon, 28 Aug 95 14:23:23 MST To: valliant@micomtech.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Hugh Valliant's message of Mon, 28 Aug 1995 05:21:23 -0400 <9508281029.AA27090@mail.inforamp.net> Subject: 755 & Windows 95 Dear Hugh, You will find somewhere in the manual of the Thinkpad that in the back there is a little tiny hole where you can put a paper clip, press it and the machine will reset itself. You need to open the back panel, and you will find it next to the parallel port. Indeed, one time my ThinkPad stopped responding to the ON/OFF switch. I have to admit, I did not like the feeling. Thank you, -Marek Rychlik ---------------------------------------------------------------- X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 06:33:13 EDT X-Sender: valliant@micomtech.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 05:21:23 -0400 From: valliant@micomtech.com (Hugh Valliant) Help?? I just loaded Windows 95 into my 755CE and everything worked fine. I shut my machine off. Later, I started my machine up...sequence was ok until the power managment line was being executed. Then my machine hung solid... Can't even turn it off now. Any ideas or suggestions?? It's 11 o'clock at night so I can't phone Microsoft. Thanks in advance Hugh ========================================== MI-COM Technology Computer Solutions for Small Business Hugh A. Valliant Bus. (416) 726-5355 Fax. (416) 699-3847 Internet valliant@micomtech.com http://www.micomtech.com/~valliant/ ========================================== From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 17:37:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22606; Mon, 28 Aug 95 17:37:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00981; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 17:29:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 17:29:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA00960; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 17:29:44 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA02324; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 17:28:45 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 17:28:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: doug diamond Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Do early thinkpad 750 cases accept replacement HD's? In-Reply-To: <199508282053.QAA27267@CS.UTK.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 28 Aug 1995, doug diamond wrote: > There was some discussion once that early TP750's with 170MB HDs had > a case that was not the same as later ones (eg. later 170MB disk > cases were the same as the 340MB disk case). Does anyone know if > the early 170 case will still work with a new 12mm drive (e.g. the > Toshiba 810MB)? Any advice on this upgrade? I've got one of those hypothetically different cases (we never did find out exactly why they were different). The only difference I found was that when you screw the connector into the plastic case, the pin receptacles are offset from the disk's pins by one pin (one of the pins is missing on the drive, and on the old drive it lines up with a capped receptacle on the connector. On the new drive this cap is offset by one pin). I played with the flex-cable until I could force it to fit. I was concerned the solder joints would eventually break from fatigue, but it's held up for over a year (including a dozen or so swaps back back and forth from the original disk). I don't know how any of this would relate to a 3rd party drive. There is nothing physically different about the connector, just the position it lines up at when you place the drive in the case. If the 3rd party drive is smaller in width than the IBM drive by about 1mm, either connector will work without problems. If they're the same, you may have to do what I did. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 17:50:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25260; Mon, 28 Aug 95 17:50:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01616; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 17:37:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 17:37:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01603; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 17:37:15 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA18594; Mon, 28 Aug 95 17:37:31 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 95 17:37:31 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508282137.AA18594@nile.gnat.com> To: baker@ada.cs.fsu.edu, dhite@mitre.org, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Disk slower in 755CX I have found that the 75MHz Pentium processor in the 755CX is MUCH faster than the 100MHz DX/4 processor in the 755CD, for everything I do. The external cache on the Pentium makes a big difference. For non fpt stuff, I see the 755CX as 50-100% faster than the 755CD, and have seen nothing that runs slower. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 18:21:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28422; Mon, 28 Aug 95 18:21:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04343; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 18:08:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 18:08:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04332; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 18:08:47 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA19250; Mon, 28 Aug 95 18:09:19 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 95 18:09:19 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508282209.AA19250@nile.gnat.com> To: baker@ada.cs.fsu.edu, george@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Disk slower in 755CX Pentium 32-bit or 64-bit this argment is simply one of terminology. What does an n-bit processor mean: n-bit addresses n-bit registers n-bit integer arithmetic n-bit internal data paths n-bit external address bus ??? depending on how you answer this, you get different views, normally I would agree that the Pentium is a 32-bit processor, but it just depends on your definitions. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 18:26:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28642; Mon, 28 Aug 95 18:26:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04401; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 18:09:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 18:09:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04387; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 18:09:24 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA19259; Mon, 28 Aug 95 18:09:59 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 95 18:09:59 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508282209.AA19259@nile.gnat.com> To: rychlik@math.arizona.edu, valliant@micomtech.com Subject: Re: 755 & Windows 95 Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU the on-off switch is just a software gizmo on the TP, it does not reset the machine. for that you do indeed need the little hole on the back. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 18:39:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29576; Mon, 28 Aug 95 18:39:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05878; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 18:29:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 18:29:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05866; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 18:29:50 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21224; Mon, 28 Aug 95 15:28:44 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) id PAA02504; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 15:28:37 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9508281528.ZM2502@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 15:28:36 -0700 In-Reply-To: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) "Re: Disk slower in 755CX" (Aug 28, 6:09pm) References: <9508282209.AA19250@nile.gnat.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Disk slower in 755CX Cc: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Aug 28, 6:09pm, Robert Dewar wrote: > Subject: Re: Disk slower in 755CX > Pentium 32-bit or 64-bit > > this argment is simply one of terminology. What does an n-bit processor mean: > > n-bit addresses > n-bit registers > n-bit integer arithmetic > n-bit internal data paths > n-bit external address bus > > ??? > > depending on how you answer this, you get different views, normally I would > agree that the Pentium is a 32-bit processor, but it just depends on your > definitions. >-- End of excerpt from Robert Dewar Any basic computer architectures textbook (Henessey et al, Hwang, ...) will describe the architecture of a chip by its internal datapath width -- which in almost all cases is the same as the register width and the integer arithmetic width. So the currently available 64-bit processor are the DEC 2106x (Alpha), the MIPS R4x00 and R6000, and the PowerPC 620. The P5x's and the P6 are 32-bit architectures. BTW, Intel refers to the P5 and P6 architectures as 32-bit in their technical references. Robert George Army Research Laboratory From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Aug 28 23:28:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24821; Mon, 28 Aug 95 23:28:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25057; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 23:19:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 23:19:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25047; Mon, 28 Aug 1995 23:19:35 -0400 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24021; Mon, 28 Aug 95 23:19:20 -0400 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0um) id AA0052; Tue, 29 Aug 95 11:19:14 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 95 11:19:14 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Message-Id: <9508291519.AA0052@omerie.ai.mit.edu> To: asdf@ono-sendai.incog.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Mon, 28 Aug 1995 08:28:24 -0700 from asdf@ono-sendai.incog.com (Glenn Scott) Subject: Linux 755CE w/ Dock I Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 08:28:24 -0700 From: asdf@ono-sendai.incog.com (Glenn Scott) Hi all, I'm trying to configure Linux (kernel 1.2.8) to use my CDROM in my Dock I. I have read the "Linux on the IBM ThinkPad" paper, but the section on configuring for a Dock I CDROM is not clear to me. I have probed the SCSI card and it does identify itself as an "IBM F1 BIOS V1.2009/23/93" so that matches what I expected. But it's clear that there is more. So, does anyone have a description of what I need to do to get this going? This has apparently been accomplished by someone -- check out this URL, then select "The Docking Stations" for the details: "http://peipa.essex.ac.uk/tp-linux/tp-linux.html" Actually, I have yet to get the mouse to work as well... The mouse should be a standard PS/2 busmouse. You need to enable this support in the kernel to get it working. It's possible that there's something funny about the Dock I mouse interface, but this is unlikely. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 01:12:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00482; Tue, 29 Aug 95 01:12:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03382; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 01:05:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 01:05:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ra.abo.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03368; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 01:05:17 -0400 Received: from stork (stork.abo.fi [130.232.208.92]) by ra.abo.fi (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id IAA08168 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 08:04:47 +0300 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 08:04:47 +0300 Message-Id: <199508290504.IAA08168@ra.abo.fi> X-Sender: akilpine@130.232.18.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Subject: erooor 8611 at startup I have had trouble in getting a TP750 to boot. After the 120xx KB OK message i get a line "8611" as an error code. Occasionally, when i remove the HD, Floppy or the DRAm card the machine will boot normally. It is impossible event to get into the EasySetup after the error cpde. Trackpoint seems to freeze also. Any hints what 8611 could refer to? -antti From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 01:39:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08804; Tue, 29 Aug 95 01:39:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04704; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 01:33:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 01:33:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA04693; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 01:33:53 -0400 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by Eisner.DECUS.Org (PMDF V4.2-12 #4291) id <01HUMLYB6U8W000618@Eisner.DECUS.Org>; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 01:33:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 01:33:33 -0400 (EDT) From: billy@mix.com Subject: Re: erooor 8611 at startup In-Reply-To: <199508290504.IAA08168@ra.abo.fi> Sender: YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org To: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <809674413.825055.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Mail-System-Version: Hi - This is a pointing device error when the TrackPoint II is enabled. To fix, try these steps in order until it works (from IBM's Hardware Maint. Manual) - 1. Reseat the keyboard Track Point II cable at the interposer card (what it plugs in to). 2. Replace the keyboard if this doesn't work. 3. Replace the external mouse (if you are using one). 4. Replace the system board. As for when you remove whatever and then this doesn't happen, well - I have no idea what that means, nor does the Maint. Manual say anything about it. I imagine another work around might be turning off the TP-II and using a mouse. Billy Y.. > I have had trouble in getting a TP750 to boot. After the 120xx KB OK message > i get a line "8611" as an error code. Occasionally, when i remove the HD, > Floppy or the DRAm card the machine will boot normally. > It is impossible event to get into the EasySetup after the error cpde. > Trackpoint seems to freeze also. > Any hints what 8611 could refer to? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 05:53:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18566; Tue, 29 Aug 95 05:53:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA00415; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 05:42:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 05:42:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vmgate by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA00374; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 05:42:17 -0400 Received: from smtpgw.mfltd.co.uk by vmgate (5.0/25-eef) id AA04542; Tue, 29 Aug 95 10:11:12 BST Received: by smtpgw.mfltd.co.uk with Microsoft Mail id <3042E85E@smtpgw.mfltd.co.uk>; Tue, 29 Aug 95 10:13:50 GMT From: "D. Gwyn Jones" To: tp750 Subject: Re: suspend recovery problem Date: Tue, 29 Aug 95 10:13:00 GMT Message-Id: <3042E85E@smtpgw.mfltd.co.uk> Encoding: 39 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I've noticed similar resume problems with my 755c when using Warp. And as has been mentioned in another note stream, the ON/OFF switch is ignored while in suspend mode. I could never even get suspend to work with OS/2 2.11, so when I had this occasional problem on Warp with resuming from suspend, I put it down to the oft-discussed bug where suspend/resume is affected if you use a power on password (like I do). However, I've recently discovered that resume is in fact working! If you have a power on password, it prompts you to type it in on resuming, and what I have seen is that sometimes when using the LCD, the screen doesn't come up. However, if you assume it has in fact displayed the prompt and you enter it normally, then the screen comes to life and OS/2 returns! So I guess it is just an issue with resume on Warp sometimes failing to restart the display at the prompt stage of the process. Since I discovered this, I have never had suspend/resume fail - it is just 50/50 whether the password prompt is actually visible. Regards, Gwyn. dgj@mfltd.co.uk ---------- > From: owner-tp750 > To: tp750 > Subject: suspend recovery problem > Date: 28 August 1995 00:00 > > Occasionaly, when my TP755CD suspends, (specifically if I open the keyboard > to > swap the 3.5 for the CD-ROM) the machine will not "wake up"......I open the > keyboard to a blank screen and the only way to get it back is to turn it off > and start over.... > > Any suggestions...... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 08:00:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24112; Tue, 29 Aug 95 08:00:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA10504; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 07:52:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 07:52:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA10494; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 07:52:38 -0400 Received: from DialupEudora (ts1.noc.drexel.edu [129.25.12.13]) by dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (8.6.11/8.6.4) with SMTP id HAA12674 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 07:51:57 -0400 X-Sender: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 07:10:41 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Mark Bell) Subject: Re: Display on CD, CE, CX >At 10:43 PM 8/23/95, John H. Kim wrote: > >>Also, has anyone been able to compare the Apple Powerbook TFTs with the >>IBM TFTs? > > I can't say definitively (I've never compared head-up), but it >seems to me that the Powerbook TFT's are considerably brighter. In my >experience, the IBM screen is big--but not very bright (even with full >non-powersaving mode). I've even had people mistake my TFT for a >dual-scan... :( I own a 755C and a PowerBook 540C. While the PB screen is smaller (9.5 vs. 10.4), it *is* considerably brighter. I owned the 755C before the 540C, and I thought the screen was pretty bright, until I started working with the 540C. The brightness is definitely noticable. Clarity wise, both are 640x480, but the PB540 screen is 640x480x256 *or* 640x400*65,535. Whereas on the 755CE above, um, we know which one supports higher resolution to sport those same amount of colors. :) ........Hapless victim of Information Overload Syndrome (IOS)....... * Mark Bell * 800 College Drive #104 * Vineland, NJ 08360 * 1-609-327-4029 * From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 08:43:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26371; Tue, 29 Aug 95 08:43:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13627; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 08:36:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 08:36:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA13614; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 08:36:00 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id FAA16116; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 05:35:56 -0700 Message-Id: <199508291235.FAA16116@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 95 05:38:38 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: art@aaRS.mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: Where to get a bigger HD? On Mon, 28 Aug 1995 11:18:31 -0400 you wrote: >After endless ambivalence in deciding between a new HD and more memory So please excuse my waste of bandwitdh and thanks in >advance for your help... Sigma Data makes a line of HDDs that are completely compatible with the Thinkpad series, come in the case, etc. I got my 540 HDD from them, and am quite pleased. Not necessarily the lowest price around though. Ask for Pete Kuzinski (I think that's the guy's name) for the internet list discount). > Roger J. Buffington AB6WR USC Law, Class of '97 Go Trojans! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from | | them (Native Americans). There were great numbers of people who | | needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it | | for themsleves." - John Wayne (actor) | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 08:53:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26482; Tue, 29 Aug 95 08:53:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15090; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 08:48:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 08:48:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.vassar.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15073; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 08:48:24 -0400 Received: from cssun3 (cssun3.vassar.edu) by cs.vassar.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28443; Tue, 29 Aug 95 08:47:54 EDT From: manning@cs.vassar.edu (Joseph Manning) Received: by cssun3 (4.1) id AA02678; Tue, 29 Aug 95 08:48:30 EDT Date: Tue, 29 Aug 95 08:48:30 EDT Message-Id: <9508291248.AA02678@cssun3> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP-755CX keyboard release problem Forwarding: Mail from 'owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu' dated: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 22:54:24 -0400 Cc: manning@cs.vassar.edu TP-755CX Owners, Could someone please take a moment to referee a little match between me and IBM? Yes? OK, don your striped shirt ... I'm having a lot of difficulty raising the keyboard on my 'Pad. It seems to me that the releases were assembled incorrectly. When I described the problem on the phone to someone at IBM, he agreed with me. So I sent it in for repair, but got it back today with a note to say that there's nothing at all wrong with it. OK, here's what seems to be wrong. At the front corners of the keyboard are two little metal tabs, which are moved forward by the two small sliders on the side of the unit. On my machine, these tabs look like: __ __ | | | | \ | | / ........ Exhibit A \| |/ whereas is seems to me that they should instead look like: __ __ | | | | | / \ | ........ Exhibit B |/ \| Could you please take a moment to look at your 755CX, and let me know whether yours is like A or B? Right now, the only way I can get the keyboard to open is to pull the tabs to one side with my thumbnail and then slide them forward. Thanks very much! Since this is unlikely to be of great interest to the entire group, perhaps it's better to just e-mail me rather than posting. Cheers, Joseph PS: Impressive service from IBM! -- I called in the problem on Wed, they shipped me a box by Thu, I sent the 'Pad on Thu, and I had it back today, Mon. Wow! ... even if they fail to repair it ... Joseph Manning / Computer Science / Vassar College / manning@cs.vassar.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 09:07:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27258; Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:07:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16342; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:00:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:00:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16323; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:00:08 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA09970; Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:00:41 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:00:41 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508291300.AA09970@nile.gnat.com> To: manning@cs.vassar.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP-755CX keyboard release problem it's like A on mine, and yes, it is a big pain to open! (This in response to Joseph's question about the catches on a CX) seems to me that my CD was like this, but early TP's were better ??? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 09:07:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27263; Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:07:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16461; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:01:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:01:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA16441; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:01:17 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA10008; Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:01:56 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:01:56 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508291301.AA10008@nile.gnat.com> To: manning@cs.vassar.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP-755CX keyboard release problem It's interesting, I examined my TP carefully, and I exactly agree with Joseph, thje catches are assembled the wrong way round. No doubt about it! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 09:15:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27582; Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:15:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17145; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:09:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:09:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17135; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:09:40 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA10300; Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:10:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:10:20 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508291310.AA10300@nile.gnat.com> To: manning@cs.vassar.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP-755CX keyboard release problem OK, more research on the "wrong way round catches" First, this is clearly a design problem, not just an assembly problem, because the catches are attached to the sliders, so you can't just switch them around. Second, I investigated a 750C and a 755C, and both have the wrong way round catches. Remembering more clearly, I believe in fact that it was with the arrival of the 750C that I started to have this problem. I clearly remember that at least one of the earlier machines (700C and or 720C) did NOT have this problem. I really think that Joseph has put his finger on exactly the right explanation. A small, but quite annoying, screw up! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 09:20:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28216; Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:20:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17367; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:12:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:12:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA17357; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:12:09 -0400 Received: from DialupEudora (ts1.noc.drexel.edu [129.25.12.13]) by dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (8.6.11/8.6.4) with SMTP id JAA19577 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:11:29 -0400 X-Sender: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 08:30:12 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Mark Bell) Subject: Re: Display on CD, CE, CX >" I can't say definitively (I've never compared head-up), but it >seems to me that the Powerbook TFT's are considerably brighter. In my >experience, the IBM screen is big--but not very bright (even with full >non-powersaving mode). I've even had people mistake my TFT for a >dual-scan... :(" > >This is peculiar, I am looking at the two screens side by side, and the >IBM screen is far brighter to my eye. In fact it is on the Power book that >I cannot tell any difference between the dual scan and TFT (I know this >because we debated which to buy a while ago, and chose the TFT, but not >on the basis of brightness, where it made no difference but rahter on >the basis of angle of view and speed, where of course the TFT has an >advantage. > >Now this of course is for the 755's. THe 701 screen is considerably less >bright, probably to help with the crummy battery in the 701. I have a 755C and a PB540C, and to me, the PB540C is brighter when both units are running off of battery. When both are plugged in, they seem, at best, the same. As for Dual Scan vs. TFT, the DS screen on the 520C had some slight streaking IMHO vs. zero streaking on the 540C TFT display. ........Hapless victim of Information Overload Syndrome (IOS)....... * Mark Bell * 800 College Drive #104 * Vineland, NJ 08360 * 1-609-327-4029 * From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 09:46:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29296; Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:46:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19429; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:35:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:35:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hepth.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19403; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:35:07 -0400 From: "Lew Jansen" Received: by hepth.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/2.0) id AA05431; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:30:36 -0400 Message-Id: <9508291330.AA05431@hepth.cornell.edu> Subject: Re: TP-755CX keyboard release problem To: manning@cs.vassar.edu (Joseph Manning) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:30:36 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, manning@cs.vassar.edu In-Reply-To: <9508291248.AA02678@cssun3> from "Joseph Manning" at Aug 29, 95 08:48:30 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text My CX is also like exhibit A -- while a PITA to open, I think the tabs are set up that way to make it easier to close the keyboard. -- Lew Jansen Systems Manager, High Energy Physics Theory lrj@hepth.cornell.edu 233 Newman Lab, Cornell University, Ithaca NY 14853 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 09:47:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29557; Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:47:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19799; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:38:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:38:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA19783; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:38:05 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA11708; Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:38:37 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:38:37 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508291338.AA11708@nile.gnat.com> To: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Display on CD, CE, CX "I have a 755C and a PB540C, and to me, the PB540C is brighter when both units are running off of battery. When both are plugged in, they seem, at best, the same. As for Dual Scan vs. TFT, the DS screen on the 520C had some slight streaking IMHO vs. zero streaking on the 540C TFT display." Well if you want brightness, turn it on! Comparing the 755C with brightness turned down (the normal default for baterry power), with a PB is an uninteresting comparison. I was of course comparing the 755C with the brightness turned up (PS2 BR N) with the power book. I see any other comparison as pretty meaningless. Incidentally, I often find I prefer PS2 BR E when operating from battery power, since this most usually happens on planes and trains, where the ambient light is low, and full brightness is too bright. the 520C screen is MUCH slower than the 540C screen, which is what you would expect given the technologies. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 09:48:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29562; Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:48:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20125; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:42:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:42:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from acorn.grove.iup.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20115; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:42:36 -0400 Received: from grove.iup.edu by grove.iup.edu (PMDF V4.3-13 #2467) id <01HUN2RL4UPSQPGWHW@grove.iup.edu>; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:41:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark_Strawcutter Subject: Re: TP-755CX keyboard release problem In-Reply-To: Your message dated "Tue, 29 Aug 1995 08:48:30 -0400 (EDT)" <9508291248.AA02678@cssun3> To: manning@cs.vassar.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, manning@cs.vassar.edu Message-Id: <01HUN30U9NNWQPGWHW@grove.iup.edu> Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania X-Envelope-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > Right now, the only way I can get the keyboard to open is to pull the > tabs to one side with my thumbnail and then slide them forward. FWIW - my 755CD is the same way. ---------- Mark J Strawcutter Internet: mjstraw@grove.iup.edu Director, Systems and Communications BITNET: MJSTRAW@IUP Indiana University of Pennsylvania Voice: (412) 357-4007 Indiana, PA 15705 "you can't nail jello to a tree" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 09:49:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29567; Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:49:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20140; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:42:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:42:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ada.cs.fsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20128; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:42:42 -0400 Received: by ada.cs.fsu.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA03327; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:43:59 GMT Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:43:59 GMT From: Ted Baker Message-Id: <199508291343.NAA03327@ada.cs.fsu.edu> To: dewar@nile.gnat.com, manning@cs.vassar.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP-755CX keyboard release problem I have the same problem, but I've been assuming this was an intentional feature, to make it harder to accidentally release the keyboard when opening up the TP lid. --Ted Baker From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 09:56:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29812; Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:56:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20811; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:49:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:49:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA20799; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:49:53 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA12026; Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:50:32 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 95 09:50:32 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508291350.AA12026@nile.gnat.com> To: lrj@hepth.cornell.edu, manning@cs.vassar.edu Subject: Re: TP-755CX keyboard release problem Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU "I think the tabs are set up that way to make it easier to close the keyboard" That doesn't make sense. the tapering serves no mechanical function at all either on opening or closing, since the flat side is in. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 11:34:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07612; Tue, 29 Aug 95 11:34:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29461; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 11:21:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 11:21:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.vassar.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA29449; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 11:21:26 -0400 Received: from cssun3 (cssun3.vassar.edu) by cs.vassar.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29161; Tue, 29 Aug 95 11:20:55 EDT From: manning@cs.vassar.edu (Joseph Manning) Received: by cssun3 (4.1) id AA02696; Tue, 29 Aug 95 11:21:31 EDT Date: Tue, 29 Aug 95 11:21:31 EDT Message-Id: <9508291521.AA02696@cssun3> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: thanks, gang! Cc: manning@cs.vassar.edu Yo! Is this mailing list the greatest, or what? I posted a question about the keyboard release tabs on my TP-755CX, and within an HOUR there are no fewer than SIX replies! Many thanks to: Ted Baker dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) "Lew Jansen" kress@gl.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Mark_Strawcutter Don Ramsey Seems like we all have the same bass-ackward release tabs. Yet, who are we to question what IBM, in their infinite wisdom, may have intended by this design "feature" :-) Cheers, Joseph Brendan Manning (yep, JBM) Joseph Manning / Computer Science / Vassar College / manning@cs.vassar.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 11:58:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08872; Tue, 29 Aug 95 11:58:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02188; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 11:50:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 11:50:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02161; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 11:50:22 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id LAA13189; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 11:54:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 11:54:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: "Roger J. Buffington" Cc: art@aaRS.mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Where to get a bigger HD? In-Reply-To: <199508291235.FAA16116@chaph.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, Roger J. Buffington wrote: > Sigma Data makes a line of HDDs that are completely compatible with > the Thinkpad series, come in the case, etc. I got my 540 HDD from > them, and am quite pleased. Not necessarily the lowest price around > though. Ask for Pete Kuzinski (I think that's the guy's name) for the > internet list discount). If it's the same deal we got when they first released, the original mail messages are on http://www.shadow.net/~dwhite/thinkpad. If there's newer information, someone please mail it to me and I'll update it. ------ Donald Alan Whiteside MDCC Wage Slave School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "The universe is not in the habit of giving up explanations to cursory examinations" - Garth Thornton ========================================================================= From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 12:31:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09989; Tue, 29 Aug 95 12:31:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04930; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:21:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:21:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nadia.ircam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04914; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:21:03 -0400 Received: from wayne.ircam.fr by nadia.ircam.fr, Tue, 29 Aug 1995 18:20:34 +0200 Received: by wayne.ircam.fr, Tue, 29 Aug 1995 18:20:32 +0200 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 18:20:32 +0200 From: Jonathan Marshall Message-Id: <199508291620.AA13234@wayne.ircam.fr> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.95) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.95) To: ThinkPad 750 mailing list Subject: ThinkPad TV Tuner and Processor Upgrade for 755C Reply-To: Jonathan.Marshall@ircam.fr Hi all, I have been fairly quiet on this mailing list but I don't think this question has been asked before. I am considering buying TV tuner for my 755C but the IBM ftp site seems to be devoid of any information about this device. If anyone on this list has bought this accessory I'd like to hear their opinions. In particular I'd like to know: - Is it compatable with both PAL and NTSC - Does it accept an external video input - Can it work alongside applications (ie can I watch tv and word process at the same time) - Can you run it at full screen For your information I have been quoted a price of $573 canadian dollars from pacific blue. Is this a good price as I have not seen it advertised anywhere else. Also I remember the processor upgrade for the 755C (DX2/50 to DX4/75) being discussed on this list before. Pacific Blue have conifrmed that it is user installable and costs $1450 CAD. Thank you all very much for your time. Jon marshall@ircam.fr From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 12:31:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09999; Tue, 29 Aug 95 12:31:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04995; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:22:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:22:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04985; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:22:54 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA03359; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:22:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:22:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: Mark Bell Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Display on CD, CE, CX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, Mark Bell wrote: > I own a 755C and a PowerBook 540C. While the PB screen is smaller (9.5 vs. > 10.4), it *is* considerably brighter. I owned the 755C before the 540C, and Before this gets completely out of hand, IBM changed the TFT between the 755C and 755CD/CE. That's why if you look at the subject heading, I specifically asked about the CD/CE/CX. The old TFT could only do 8-bit color, the new one can do 16-bit color and has some sort of glare filter to improve contrast. So if you're comparing, make sure to mention which model Thinkpad you're using. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 12:59:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11710; Tue, 29 Aug 95 12:59:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06897; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:48:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:48:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA06882; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:48:51 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA03392; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:48:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:48:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP-755CX keyboard release problem In-Reply-To: <9508291248.AA02678@cssun3> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, Joseph Manning wrote: > __ __ > | | | | > \ | | / ........ Exhibit A > \| |/ Robert Dewar mentioned the tabs were the same on a TP750C. Well, I've got a TP750 mono and my tabs look like this: /| |\ / | | \ --| |-- | | ____| |____ | | | <----- slider ------> | It looks like they were designed so you could close the keyboard/LCD without having to reach for the slider. In fact the tabs only latch onto the LCD, they don't hold down the keyboard at all - there's a plastic rail on the keyboard which catches underneath the tabs just above the slider (see picture). Maybe it's a color/mono thing? > Right now, the only way I can get the keyboard to open is to pull the > tabs to one side with my thumbnail and then slide them forward. I never had a problem opening the keyboard. If I pull the slider back until they hit a stop, I can open the LCD cover. If I use a little more force and pull past the stop, the keyboard pops open. I do recall having some problems opening the keyboard before I got it replaced to fix the letters coming off. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 13:03:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11737; Tue, 29 Aug 95 13:03:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07487; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:57:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:57:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from odyssee.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07473; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:56:59 -0400 Received: from neil.odysee.net (pool10_13.odyssee.net) by odyssee.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02123; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:55:33 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:55:32 -0400 Message-Id: <9508291655.AA02123@odyssee.net> X-Sender: neil@204.50.80.201 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: neil@atlas.odyssee.net (Neil Di Meglio) Subject: Power management using Windows 95 on TP 755CE Since I upgraded my BIOS to version 1.30, the computers resumes twice, when returning from suspend mode within Windows 95. Apparently it's related to the power manager driver within Windows 95, if I disable the power management driver (APM driver), the computer resumes properly from suspend, but I lose sound. Does anyone have the same problem or suggestion on how to resolve this problem. Yours very truly Neil ! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 13:24:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13635; Tue, 29 Aug 95 13:24:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08773; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:11:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:11:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08763; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:11:20 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA19178; Tue, 29 Aug 95 13:11:43 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 95 13:11:43 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508291711.AA19178@nile.gnat.com> To: jokim@tuna.mit.edu, st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu Subject: Re: Display on CD, CE, CX Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU "Before this gets completely out of hand, IBM changed the TFT between the 755C and 755CD/CE. That's why if you look at the subject heading, I specifically asked about the CD/CE/CX. The old TFT could only do 8-bit color, the new one can do 16-bit color and has some sort of glare filter to improve contrast." I cannot see any difference whatsoever in brightness between a 755C and a 755CX, they look identifical in this respect (and are sitting side by side). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 13:30:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14261; Tue, 29 Aug 95 13:30:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09283; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:18:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:18:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA09270; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:18:22 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA03470; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:17:50 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:17:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Display on CD, CE, CX In-Reply-To: <9508291711.AA19178@nile.gnat.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: > "Before this gets completely out of hand, IBM changed the TFT between > the 755C and 755CD/CE. That's why if you look at the subject heading, > > I cannot see any difference whatsoever in brightness between a 755C and > a 755CX, they look identifical in this respect (and are sitting side > by side). They *are* different, or IBM is going to be up for a false advertising lawsuit: _______________________________________________________________________ IBM ThinkPad 755 Notebook Technical Specifications ... 755CE Display: o 10.4" (actual viewable diagonal screen size) active-matrix TFT color LCD; sidelit; o Black Matrix on Array glare-reducing technology; o 65,536 simultaneous colors at 640 x 480; o 100:1 contrast ... 755C Display: o 10.4" (actual viewable diagonal screen size) active-matrix TFT color LCD; sidelit; 256 simultaneous colors at 640 x 480; o 100:1 contrast _______________________________________________________________________ I think the Apple TFTs are backlit, although I don't remember anymore if that's different. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 13:37:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14612; Tue, 29 Aug 95 13:37:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10061; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:27:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:27:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10051; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:27:34 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA20026; Tue, 29 Aug 95 13:28:12 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 95 13:28:12 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508291728.AA20026@nile.gnat.com> To: jokim@tuna.mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP-755CX keyboard release problem yes, that sounds right (John Kim's analysis). The slope is precisely so that the keyboard closes itself easily (yes, I know someone else mentioned this, but I did not understand before whta was meant). On my 755CX it is true that extra pressure will make the catches go all the way back, but the pressure required is very high. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 13:46:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15740; Tue, 29 Aug 95 13:46:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10877; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:38:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:38:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA10867; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:38:35 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA20305; Tue, 29 Aug 95 13:39:15 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 95 13:39:15 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508291739.AA20305@nile.gnat.com> To: jokim@tuna.mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Display on CD, CE, CX "> I cannot see any difference whatsoever in brightness between a 755C and > a 755CX, they look identifical in this respect (and are sitting side > by side). They *are* different, or IBM is going to be up for a false advertising lawsuit:" Read what I said, I compared brightness, nowhere does IBM say or hint that the new screens are brighter, and they are not. Actually if anything glare reduction can diminsh brightness, although I do not see that. If you launch such a lawsuit, I suggest having a lot of $$$, it is bad enough suing IBM in any case, but to sue them where you have no grounds seems unwise :-) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 13:55:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16362; Tue, 29 Aug 95 13:55:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11540; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:46:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:46:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11529; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:46:13 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA03517; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:45:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:45:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: Robert Dewar Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Display on CD, CE, CX In-Reply-To: <9508291739.AA20305@nile.gnat.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: > Read what I said, I compared brightness, nowhere does IBM say or hint > that the new screens are brighter, and they are not. Actually if anything > glare reduction can diminsh brightness, although I do not see that. Yeah, sorry, I noticed that right after I sent it. What may be happening is that people are comparing the screens under different lighting. Sometimes the anti-glare makes the TP look brighter, sometimes they're the same or the Powerbook is brighter (they *are* advertised as backlit). Of course the other unthinkable possibility is that TFTs vary so much in quality that you can't be sure if you'll get a bright or dim one. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 13:56:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16371; Tue, 29 Aug 95 13:56:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11763; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:49:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:49:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11751; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:49:50 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA20613; Tue, 29 Aug 95 13:50:28 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 95 13:50:28 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508291750.AA20613@nile.gnat.com> To: jokim@tuna.mit.edu Subject: Re: Display on CD, CE, CX Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU "Of course the other unthinkable possibility is that TFTs vary so much in quality that you can't be sure if you'll get a bright or dim one." Well to summarize this thread, someone claimed that the TP screen was significantly dimmer than a PB screen. I contested this. Later the original poster noted that he had been comparing the screen in economy battery mode with the PB, and yes of course the TP is then not as bright, no question, but also no surprise, and also easily changable if that is what you want. So I think we have no great mystery here. In full power mode, machines are comparably bright, with TP in dim mode, it is dimmer :-) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 15:43:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24838; Tue, 29 Aug 95 15:43:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21337; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 15:31:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 15:31:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21327; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 15:31:55 -0400 From: Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA23328 for TP750@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 15:31:19 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 15:31:19 -0400 Message-Id: <950829153118_86323587@mail04.mail.aol.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Panasonic KXL-D720 PCMCIA CD-ROM & 191FF error Hi! I was wondering if anyone is using the Panasonic Portable 2X CD-ROM drive and if so, how good is it? Likes/Dislikes? Speed? Portability? Compatibility w/ Windows 95/3.11 and 755C sound system (non-MWave)? Compatibility in general with a Thinkpad 755C system and installation? Any opinions or other suggestions (parallel port drives?) welcome.. Also, does anyone know what 191FF error at startup refers to? (Thinkpad 755C) I've only had it occur to me 2 or 3 times. It happens when I can't resume from a suspend (screen blacked out) and I have to power off and power on. Then it displays the error. If I reboot (power off/on) again, then everything is OK. Thanks... Mark M. (Mark3M@aol.com) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 16:24:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27938; Tue, 29 Aug 95 16:24:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24354; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 16:10:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 16:10:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blob.best.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA24341; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 16:10:22 -0400 From: Received: from shell1.best.com (shell1.best.com [204.156.128.10]) by blob.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA19338; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:10:07 -0700 Received: from 204.156.137.12 (sandy.vip.best.com [204.156.137.12]) by shell1.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA28973; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:10:02 -0700 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:10:02 -0700 Message-Id: <199508292010.NAA28973@shell1.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: TP-755CX keyboard release problem To: manning@cs.vassar.edu (Joseph Manning) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9508291248.AA02678@cssun3> X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 On Tue, 29 Aug 95, manning@cs.vassar.edu (Joseph Manning) wrote: >TP-755CX Owners, > > Could someone please take a moment to referee a little match > between me and IBM? Yes? OK, don your striped shirt ... > __ __ > | | | | > \ | | / ........ Exhibit A > \| |/ My 755CX is exactly like yours (Exhibit A) and, frankly, works exactly the same way. I've examined this on several 755CX models and the ability to slide forward "smoothly" definitely varies from unit to unit. One of the five units I examined did slide smoothly while releasing the keyboard, but most tabs had to be moved slightly towards the outside of the case (just like you described) in order to release the keyboard. I suppose if you spoke to an IBM marketing person, they would tell you that this is a design "feature" to prevent some bad guy/gal from opening your keyboard too easily and stealing your battery or hard drive. My educated guess is that this is just a manufacturing "flaw" which varies from unit to unit depending on how close to specs the keyboard frame and release tabs are built. Since it only requires a little extra effort to release the keyboard, I'm personally not too concerned about this issue. If IBM won't help you and you are really bothered by this problem, I'd suggest using a very fine file to "fine tune" the tab or keyboard frame until it slides the way you want. Just be careful about getting metal filings into your unit. _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ _ ( @ @ ) _ | |------.oOOo--()--oOOo.--------| | | | Internet : sandy@sandy.com | | | |--------------- Oooo.---------| | | | .oooO ( ) | | | | ( ) ) / | | | | \ ( (_/ | | | | \_) | | | | |\ _,,,---,,_ | | | | zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_.. | | | | |,*< ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' | | | | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | | ^ ^ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 20:06:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18079; Tue, 29 Aug 95 20:06:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11354; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 19:51:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 19:51:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA11344; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 19:51:27 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09173; Tue, 29 Aug 95 16:50:19 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id QAA03195; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 16:50:04 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9508291650.ZM3193@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 16:50:03 -0700 In-Reply-To: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) "Re: Display on CD, CE, CX" (Aug 29, 1:39pm) References: <9508291739.AA20305@nile.gnat.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Display on CD, CE, CX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Aug 29, 1:39pm, Robert Dewar wrote: > Subject: Re: Display on CD, CE, CX > "> I cannot see any difference whatsoever in brightness between a 755C and > > a 755CX, they look identifical in this respect (and are sitting side > > by side). > > They *are* different, or IBM is going to be up for a false advertising > lawsuit:" > > Read what I said, I compared brightness, nowhere do > > "Of course the other unthinkable possibility is that TFTs vary so much > in quality that you can't be sure if you'll get a bright or dim one." > > Well to summarize this thread, someone claimed that the TP screen was > significantly dimmer than a PB screen. I contested this. Later the > original poster noted that he had been comparing the screen in economy > battery mode w > > > Read what I said, I compared brightness, nowhere does IBM say or hint > > that the new screens are brighter, and they are not. Actually if anything > > glare reduction can diminsh brightness, although I do not see that. > > Yeah, sorry, I noticed that right after I sent it. What may be happening > is that people are comparing the screens under different lighting. > Sometimes the anti-glare makes the TP look brighter, sometimes they're > the same or the Powerbook is brighter (they *are* advertised as backlit). > > Of course the other unthinkable possibility is that TFTs vary so much > in quality that you can't be sure if you'll get a bright or dim one. >-- End of excerpt from Robert Dewar I believe Robert is correct here -- I'm pretty sure that the 755C/CD/CE have the same Toshiba 10.4" TFT's, with the CD/CE's panels having a glare coat. The color depth has nothing to do with the panel -- TFT's are analog panels, so they are capable of an inifinite number of colors. The color depth is determined by the number of bits in the RAMDAC's in the LCD controller chip, and the amount of video ram allocated for the panel. So the 755C has an 8-bit LCD controller, where the 755CD/CE have 16-bit LCD controllers, but they have the same TFT panel. What is especially suspicious is that the resolution and contrast ratio is identical on the 755C/CD/CE panels -- while the next generation panels, such as the Toshiba panel on the 755CX, has 800x600 resolution, and a higher contrast ratio. Also, since Sony manufactures the Thinkpad, the Powerbook, and the Dell Latitude, I would be surprised if they didn't all have identical TFT's within the same generation products. Robert George Army Research Laboratory From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Aug 29 23:27:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00073; Tue, 29 Aug 95 23:27:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25528; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 23:18:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 23:18:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blob.best.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA25518; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 23:18:03 -0400 From: Received: from shell1.best.com (shell1.best.com [204.156.128.10]) by blob.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA26020; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 20:18:01 -0700 Received: from 204.156.137.12 (sandy.vip.best.com [204.156.137.12]) by shell1.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA20445; Tue, 29 Aug 1995 20:17:58 -0700 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 20:17:58 -0700 Message-Id: <199508300317.UAA20445@shell1.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Display on CD, CE, CX To: "Robert George" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9508291650.ZM3193@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, "Robert George" wrote: >Also, since Sony manufactures the Thinkpad, the Powerbook, and the Dell >Latitude, I would be surprised if they didn't all have identical TFT's within >the same generation products. > >Robert George >Army Research Laboratory I didn't know Sony was IBM's Japanese manufacturing connection. Is this common knowledge? Is each system (PowerBook, ThinkPad, Latitude) assembled from parts provided by their respective "manufacturer" or does Sony build all of them from "common" parts? _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ _ ( @ @ ) _ | |------.oOOo--()--oOOo.--------| | | | Internet : sandy@sandy.com | | | |--------------- Oooo.---------| | | | .oooO ( ) | | | | ( ) ) / | | | | \ ( (_/ | | | | \_) | | | | |\ _,,,---,,_ | | | | zzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_.. | | | | |,*< ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' | | | | '---''(_/--' `-'\_) | | ^ ^ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 30 01:45:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10402; Wed, 30 Aug 95 01:45:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03733; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 01:38:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 01:38:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ra.abo.fi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03723; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 01:38:11 -0400 Received: from stork (stork.abo.fi [130.232.208.92]) by ra.abo.fi (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id IAA18427 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 08:37:44 +0300 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 08:37:44 +0300 Message-Id: <199508300537.IAA18427@ra.abo.fi> X-Sender: akilpine@130.232.18.2 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Antti.Kilpinen@abo.fi (Antti Kilpinen) Subject: Re: TP-755CX keyboard release problem >"I think the tabs are set up that way to make it easier to close the >keyboard" > >That doesn't make sense. the tapering serves no mechanical function at all >either on opening or closing, since the flat side is in. > > A agree with the lid closing function. Due to the tapered surfaces the handles in the lid bend sot that they snap into their places. Besides, should they as illustrated in "B" I would't be surprised to have my sleeves to catch them frequently. Yes, IBM have decided to combine two functionalities to these mechanisms. That is not perfect, but for those 8 units (360s and 750s ) I worked with they work quite well. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 30 02:52:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13522; Wed, 30 Aug 95 02:52:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07658; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 02:46:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 02:46:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07647; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 02:46:39 -0400 Received: (from alster@localhost) by alster.port.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA20659; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 02:51:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 02:51:39 -0400 (EDT) From: retsla X-Sender: alster@alster.port.net To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Windows95 & APM In-Reply-To: <199508300537.IAA18427@ra.abo.fi> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anyone have any luck with APM and Windows95 on a Thinkpad 755CE? Suspend seems to work fine .....only if I'm running on battery. If I'm on AC power and hit suspend, the machines freezes...requires me to press the reset button ....bah http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 30 07:03:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28057; Wed, 30 Aug 95 07:03:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27867; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 06:56:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 06:56:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from inforamp.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA27857; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 06:56:03 -0400 Received: from ts2-04 by inforamp.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AB15717; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 06:55:22 +0500 Message-Id: <9508301055.AB15717@inforamp.net> X-Sender: valliant@micomtech.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 05:45:28 -0400 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: valliant@micomtech.com (Hugh Valliant) Subject: 755 and Win95 and APM There seems to be a common thread with Windows95 and the power management for the 755's As stated in a previous post, the first time, after installing, win95, I booted up, my machine froze and I had to use the reset button. It stopped on the power management line. The next couple of times the machine started fine. Then it froze. I've read several other people seem to have somewhat the same problem with resume...etc. I've contacted IBM but they say it's Micorsoft's problem. But M/S lines are so busy that I have not been able to get through. Can anybody shed some light on this. Thanks in advance Hugh ========================================== MI-COM Technology Computer Solutions for Small Business Hugh A. Valliant Bus. (416) 726-5355 Fax. (416) 699-3847 Internet valliant@micomtech.com http://www.micomtech.com/~valliant/ ========================================== From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 30 08:44:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07396; Wed, 30 Aug 95 08:44:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03593; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 08:37:17 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 08:37:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ac852.wfunet.wfu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03569; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 08:37:09 -0400 Received: from riddlera.wfu.edu (e37.thinkpad.wfu.edu [152.17.182.37]) by ac852.wfunet.wfu.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id IAA18816 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 08:36:58 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 08:36:58 -0400 Message-Id: <199508301236.IAA18816@ac852.wfunet.wfu.edu> X-Sender: riddlera@wfu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: riddlera@wfu.edu (Randy A. Riddle) Subject: Win95 and Panasonic CD-ROM X-Mailer: I called Panasonic some time ago about Win95 drivers for the CD-ROM drive. Does anyone know if they have released these yet or found a comparable driver in Win 95? I would like to buy the CD-ROM version and install from that. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Randy A. Riddle -- riddlera@wfu.edu, http://www.wfu.edu/~riddlera Academic Computing Specialist Scales Fine Arts Center - M302 Wake Forest University, Winston-Salem, NC -- 910-759-4803 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 30 10:02:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10081; Wed, 30 Aug 95 10:02:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10228; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 09:54:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 09:54:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10203; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 09:54:12 -0400 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA03164; Wed, 30 Aug 95 07:53:37 MDT Date: Wed, 30 Aug 95 07:53:37 MDT From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9508301353.AA03164@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755 and Win95 and APM > There seems to be a common thread with Windows95 and the > power management for the 755's > I've read several other people seem to have somewhat the same problem > with resume...etc. Actually, I think the lowest common denominator is the ThinkPad itself. These same problems exist or have existed for those running Windows 3.1 and OS/2 as well. IBM has managed to fix some of these problems through various BIOS updates, but problems remain and I have my doubts as to IBM's willingness to do the right thing. > I've contacted IBM but they say it's Micorsoft's problem. Typical. You can also expect Microsoft to respond in kind and point the finger right back at IBM. I fought this same APM/Thinkpad battle with the OS/2 people a few months back. In the end (so to speak), I was told that a system board replacement would be necessary. I'll leave it to you to draw your own conclusions, but this doesn't sound like a software problem to me... Good luck, -- Karl E. Yeanoplos Denver, CO kyeanopl@den.mmc.com / key@csn.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 30 12:53:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22201; Wed, 30 Aug 95 12:53:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26518; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 12:39:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 12:39:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26504; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 12:39:05 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05973; Wed, 30 Aug 95 09:37:57 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) id JAA03596; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 09:37:17 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9508300937.ZM3594@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 09:37:16 -0700 In-Reply-To: "Re: Display on CD, CE, CX" (Aug 29, 8:17pm) References: <199508300317.UAA20445@shell1.best.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: Subject: Re: Display on CD, CE, CX Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Aug 29, 8:17pm, wrote: > Subject: Re: Display on CD, CE, CX > On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, "Robert George" wrote: > > >Also, since Sony manufactures the Thinkpad, the Powerbook, and the Dell > >Latitude, I would be surprised if they didn't all have identical TFT's within > >the same generation products. > > I didn't know Sony was IBM's Japanese manufacturing connection. > Is this common knowledge? Is each system (PowerBook, ThinkPad, > Latitude) assembled from parts provided by their respective > "manufacturer" or does Sony build all of them from "common" parts? > >-- End of excerpt from IBM's Thinkpad design group is in Austin, Texas. They design the laptops there, and send the specifications to Sony. The Dell story is more compilcated. The VP in charge of Powerbook development for Apple left to run the Dell Latitude project, which was having problems. This VP was sending all his Powerbook designs to Sony to be manufactured, so when he moved to Dell, he had them use the same manufacturer. As a convenient cooincidence, Dell was looking for something to differentiate their laptop from their competitors, and Sony was looking for a mass-market for their prototype Lithium-Ion batteries... Robert From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 30 13:42:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25650; Wed, 30 Aug 95 13:42:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01531; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 13:35:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 13:35:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tuna.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01516; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 13:35:36 -0400 Received: (from jokim@localhost) by tuna.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA04698; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 13:34:50 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 13:34:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "John H. Kim" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Display on CD, CE, CX In-Reply-To: <9508300937.ZM3594@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Robert George wrote: > On Aug 29, 8:17pm, wrote: > > I didn't know Sony was IBM's Japanese manufacturing connection. > > Is this common knowledge? Is each system (PowerBook, ThinkPad, > > IBM's Thinkpad design group is in Austin, Texas. They design the laptops > there, and send the specifications to Sony. The Dell story is more The 700's, 720's, and 750's were designed in Japan. The 350's and 701's were designed in the U.S. I'm not sure where the 755's and 360's are from. Despite my less than stellar batting average with facts recently, I am sure that this is correct -- three IBMers, two from Thinkpad development, told me so. :) Most of the TFT LCD's are from a joint IBM-Toshiba plant in Japan. ___________________________________________________________________________ John H. Kim "A common mistake that people make when trying to design jokim@mit.edu something completely foolproof is to underestimate the jokim@tuna.mit.edu ingenuity of complete fools." -- Douglas Adams From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 30 13:55:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26545; Wed, 30 Aug 95 13:55:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02261; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 13:47:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 13:47:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02245; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 13:47:04 -0400 Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25956; Wed, 30 Aug 95 13:46:55 -0400 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0um) id AA0060; Thu, 31 Aug 95 01:46:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 95 01:46:59 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Message-Id: <9508310546.AA0060@omerie.ai.mit.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Sigma Data Regarding the discussion of Sigma Data and the special "internet" discount: I called Peter Kushinski yesterday to get a disk and was told that the current "internet" price for the 810MB drive is $895. This is $300 less than the standard price for this drive, and is starting to get competitive. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 30 14:12:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27238; Wed, 30 Aug 95 14:12:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03592; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:05:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:05:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA03566; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:05:18 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09291; Wed, 30 Aug 95 11:04:01 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id LAA03651; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 11:03:38 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9508301103.ZM3649@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 11:03:38 -0700 In-Reply-To: "John H. Kim" "Re: Display on CD, CE, CX" (Aug 30, 1:34pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Display on CD, CE, CX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Aug 30, 1:34pm, John H. Kim wrote: > Subject: Re: Display on CD, CE, CX > On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Robert George wrote: > > On Aug 29, 8:17pm, wrote: > > I'm not sure where the 755's and 360's are from. I've met some of the guys at Austin from the Thinkpad design group. We discussed some of the design issues related to the 755's, so I assumed at the time that they were responsible for the design. I'm sure there is an extensive design cycle, though, where the EE's design the laptop, the manufacturing engineers say it can't be done that way, and so on. > Most of the TFT LCD's are from a joint IBM-Toshiba plant in Japan. The joint IBM/Toshi plant is in upstate New York. It was built there to avoid the tariffs the US placed on the Japanese for dumping. The rumor is that the same plant will be used to jointly manufacture 64Mbit DRAMS. Robert From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 30 14:52:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00125; Wed, 30 Aug 95 14:52:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06850; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:42:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:42:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from aaRS.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06828; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:42:03 -0400 Received: by aaRS.mit.edu (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id AA15236; Wed, 30 Aug 95 14:37:15 -0400 From: "Arturo J. Morales" Message-Id: <9508301437.ZM15234@aaRS.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:37:15 -0400 In-Reply-To: Chris Hanson "Sigma Data" (Aug 31, 1:46am) References: <9508310546.AA0060@omerie.ai.mit.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Sigma Data Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Actually, I just spoke with RoadWarrior and they have the 815mb disk for around $670 (i think) plus, and this is the good part, $100 dollars for the caddy... I wonder what kind of caddy this is... She did claim that it fit in the Thinkpad. Art -- Arturo J. Morales (RPI '94) | art@aars.mit.edu Department of Biology | Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology http://minihelix.mit.edu/top.html | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 30 18:05:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17119; Wed, 30 Aug 95 18:05:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25244; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 17:54:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 17:54:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA25234; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 17:54:54 -0400 Received: by netcom.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id NAA13196; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 13:52:32 -0700 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 13:52:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Arie Litman Subject: TP750C and Win-95 To: TP-750 List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, I see a lot of traffic about Win-95 and 755 machines... Any tips of TP750C? I have a TP750C, 12M ram, a Xircom Ethernet, and a Megaherz Xjack. - Will all this work with Win-95? - Will sound still work after the upgrade? - Tips, hints, Warnnings will be greatly appriciated.. Thanks in advance!! Arie. P.S. If this is old news, and not actual to the rest of the list, please reply to my E-mail... Arie Litman (408) 324-4411 Litman@netcom.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 30 18:07:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17144; Wed, 30 Aug 95 18:07:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25749; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 18:01:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 18:01:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25739; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 18:01:32 -0400 Received: from DialupEudora (ts1.noc.drexel.edu [129.25.12.13]) by dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (8.6.11/8.6.4) with SMTP id SAA23310 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 18:00:49 -0400 X-Sender: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 17:19:37 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu (Mark Bell) Subject: Re: Display on CD, CE, CX >"I have a 755C and a PB540C, and to me, the PB540C is brighter when both >units are running off of battery. When both are plugged in, they seem, at >best, the same. As for Dual Scan vs. TFT, the DS screen on the 520C had >some slight streaking IMHO vs. zero streaking on the 540C TFT display." > >Well if you want brightness, turn it on! Gee, and you would have thought I said that in sentence number two. :) >the 520C screen is MUCH slower than the 540C screen, which is what you >would expect given the technologies. DS vs. TFT will do that for you everytime. :P ........Hapless victim of Information Overload Syndrome (IOS)....... * Mark Bell * 800 College Drive #104 * Vineland, NJ 08360 * 1-609-327-4029 * From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 30 18:21:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18300; Wed, 30 Aug 95 18:21:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26715; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 18:12:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 18:12:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA26705; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 18:12:51 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA24610; Wed, 30 Aug 95 18:13:22 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 95 18:13:22 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9508302213.AA24610@nile.gnat.com> To: st94m8dn@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Display on CD, CE, CX Mark said "the PB is brighter when both units are running off of battery" Mark, my point is that it is entirely up to you whether you want this to be the csae, I asume the PB is the same brightness on or off battery. If you want the brightness of the TP to be the same as the brightness of the PB when operating on battery, just ask for it. What your sentence really meant was "the PB is brighter when both units are running off of battery, and you operate the TP at low brightness level" I don't know if the PB can reduce the brightness of the screen or not. If not, then this is a clear advantage of the TP to have this control (yes yes I know IBM doesn't document it properly :-) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 30 18:27:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18835; Wed, 30 Aug 95 18:27:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27187; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 18:19:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 18:19:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from armon.rain.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA27173; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 18:19:44 -0400 Received: by armon.rain.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0snvTk-00012zC; Wed, 30 Aug 95 15:19 PDT Message-Id: From: mehdi@armon.rain.com (Mehdi Attaran) Subject: Re: Win95 and Panasonic CD-ROM To: riddlera@wfu.edu (Randy A. Riddle) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 15:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (Thinkpad Users List) In-Reply-To: <199508301236.IAA18816@ac852.wfunet.wfu.edu> from "Randy A. Riddle" at Aug 30, 95 08:36:58 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > I called Panasonic some time ago about Win95 drivers for the CD-ROM drive. > Does anyone know if they have released these yet or found a comparable Panasonic does have Windows 95 drivers. I know of a friend who downloaded the drivers and is using the CD-ROM with his NEC Versa. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mehdi Attaran mehdi@armon.rain.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!armon!mehdi | | Data: (503) 642-3270 Voice: (503) 649-0719 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Aug 30 22:54:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09357; Wed, 30 Aug 95 22:54:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14128; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 22:43:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 22:43:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from baijuyi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14103; Wed, 30 Aug 1995 22:43:41 -0400 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by baijuyi (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id KAA20427 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 10:41:17 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199508310241.KAA20427@baijuyi> Subject: HD and TP hassles.. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 10:41:17 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text hi, Recently I repartitioned by 340Mb HD on a TP360 using Linux and forgot to make it startable on any partition. Anyways I rebooted the machine before I could recover ): Now, I thought that should be fine if I just popped in a floppy boot disk and "fdisk /mbr" it. The TP started up did a self-check - mem, floppy and HD - beeped again (normal so far) and proceeded to boot as specified by the BIOS (ie. the HD then the floppy). It tried to read from HD but nothing and then proceeded to read the floppy.. stil nothing! Surprisingly no startup password check as well! Did a BIOS system test, all's fine and no record of failure from the HD, system board and floppy - before the BIOS setup screen I was prompted for a startup password which was normal. So I checked it with another TP and isolated the problem to the HD! I guess I must have hosed the MBR and partition tables, but it shouldn't hang the whole system disallowing me to boot from floppy (floppy read light on but nothing happens). Any ideas on recovering the HD? Cheers. __________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 31 03:43:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25848; Thu, 31 Aug 95 03:43:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA01387; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 03:34:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 03:34:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from imag.imag.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA01368; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 03:34:24 -0400 Received: from safran-28 (safran.imag.fr [129.88.29.1]) by imag.imag.fr (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA09452 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 09:34:15 +0200 Received: (elf@localhost) by safran-28 (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.4) id JAA27441 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 09:34:15 +0200 Message-Id: <199508310734.JAA27441@safran-28> From: Eugene.Fiume@imag.fr (Eugene Fiume) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 09:34:14 -0600 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Linux and MWAVE modem There was a flurry of messages about getting some MWAVE functionality in linux if you load the MWAVE modem and SoundBlaster emulator before booting linux. I read some reports of (partial) success, but I don't think I got a direct answer to the question: Has anyone actually got the MWAVE modem to run under Linux? As I mentioned in my message, I got as far as getting some part of the software to respond "OK" to my "AT", but when I tried to actually initialise the modem, I got a "HOST DRIVER TIMEOUT". Given what little I know about MWAVE, I would be (very pleasantly) surprised if things *did* work as easily as just turning the darn thing on before booting. I go through DOS to initialise my ethernet card anyway. However, it is interesting that when mwmodem is turned on, Linux does indeed see a 16550A UART on COM2, which is where the modem sits. Anyway, if someone has got the modem working under Linux, please reply. Thanks, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 31 09:09:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16199; Thu, 31 Aug 95 09:09:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01919; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 08:44:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 08:44:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ada.cs.fsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01909; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 08:44:13 -0400 Received: by ada.cs.fsu.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA05810; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 12:18:16 GMT Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 12:18:16 GMT From: Ted Baker Message-Id: <199508311218.MAA05810@ada.cs.fsu.edu> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: bios reference manual? The WD90c24 data book mentions IBM PS/2 BIOS Reference Manual (IBM #66x2260) in its list of references. Various mail I've seen seems to imply that the TP series, including the 755CX, supports the PS/2 BIOS interface. Is this true? Has anyone seen the PS/2 BIOS Reference Manual mentioned above, and if so has it proven reliable for use in programming on the TP755? --Ted Baker From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 31 11:24:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25086; Thu, 31 Aug 95 11:24:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15854; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 11:12:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 11:12:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15841; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 11:12:53 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id KAA15961 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 10:12:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 10:12:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199508311512.KAA15961@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: Re: Win95 and Panasonic CD-ROM At 03:19 PM 8/30/95 -0700, you wrote: >Panasonic does have Windows 95 drivers. I know of a friend who downloaded the >drivers and is using the CD-ROM with his NEC Versa. > Several folks would be in your debt of you could apre the time and inform us where we can download the drivers from (i.e. a bbs phone number or an internet location, etc). Thanks much! --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 31 13:16:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03463; Thu, 31 Aug 95 13:16:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26920; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 13:05:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 13:05:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26906; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 13:05:50 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id MAA17285; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 12:05:38 -0500 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 12:05:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199508311705.MAA17285@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: SOLUTION: Panasonic KXL-D720 CDROM & Win95 I now have the Panasonic PCMCIA KXL-D720 CD-ROM drive working great under Win95. The solution is to get their latest Win95 beta driver, released Aug 29th 1995. This is the second beta they have released. I have placed a copy at: ftp://ftp.engr.wisc.edu/pub/todds-area/d720_w95.exe It ends up wanting to call itself as a "KXLC001 SCSI Controller" as opposed to a "CD-ROM Controller", which I personally find encouraging! (for possibly using other devices with the card) Everything seems to work well, including hot swapping and the Win95 CD-ROM "Auto Play". The only "gotcha" is be certain to STOP the PCMCIA card before ejecting it, else things get real ugly and you'll may have to reboot. To STOP the card, you can simply left mouse click on the PC-Card tray icon on the task bar, or go to the control panel and click on "PC Card". I'll check with Panasonic in a few more weeks for the official "release" version of the driver, and let folks know when it appears . Enjoy, Todd =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Todd Tannenbaum email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu Director of the Model Advanced Facility voice phone: (608) 262-3118 Computer-Aided Engineering Center FAX phone: (608) 265-4546 University of Wisconsin-Madison From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 31 13:43:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08191; Thu, 31 Aug 95 13:43:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29923; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 13:33:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 13:33:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from houws001.shl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA29913; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 13:33:50 -0400 Received: from houmg001.shl.com by houws001.shl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1.8) id AA07017; Thu, 31 Aug 95 12:37:04 CDT Received: by houmg001.shl.com with Microsoft Mail id <30460F43@houmg001.shl.com>; Thu, 31 Aug 95 12:36:35 PDT From: NELSON Tim To: TP750 Subject: Win95, Bus Toaster, and Nec 3xp CD-ROM Date: Thu, 31 Aug 95 10:38:00 PDT Message-Id: <30460F43@houmg001.shl.com> Encoding: 14 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Has anyone gotten the following combination to work: Win95 New Media Bus Toaster PC-CARD SCSI adapter Nec 3x Portable CD-ROM and how? ---------------------------------------------------- Timothy Nelson Chief Scientist, SHL Systemhouse Corp. internet: tnelson@shl.com ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 31 23:08:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17147; Thu, 31 Aug 95 23:08:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20007; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 23:02:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 23:02:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sentinel.synapse.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19997; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 23:02:52 -0400 Received: from tubular-01.synapse.net (tubular-01.synapse.net [199.84.52.205]) by sentinel.synapse.net (8.7.Beta.13/8.7.Beta.13) with SMTP id XAA18749 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 23:02:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 23:02:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199509010302.XAA18749@sentinel.synapse.net> X-Sender: phong@pop.synapse.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: phong@phsmc.synapse.net (Patrick Hong) Subject: Re: TP-755CX keyboard release problem >OK, more research on the "wrong way round catches" > >Second, I investigated a 750C and a 755C, and both have the wrong >way round catches. Remembering more clearly, I believe in fact that >it was with the arrival of the 750C that I started to have this problem. >I clearly remember that at least one of the earlier machines (700C and or >720C) did NOT have this problem. > >I really think that Joseph has put his finger on exactly the right >explanation. A small, but quite annoying, screw up! > Robert, Unless you had a VERY different Thinkpad 700C / 720C from mine, the keyboard on these models didn't lift up. But there latches were released by pushing forward rather than towards you. ... patrick ______________________________________________________________________ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@phsmc.synapse.net (613) 769-1544 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 31 23:11:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17369; Thu, 31 Aug 95 23:11:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19753; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 23:00:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 23:00:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sentinel.synapse.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA19732; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 23:00:06 -0400 Received: from tubular-01.synapse.net (tubular-01.synapse.net [199.84.52.205]) by sentinel.synapse.net (8.7.Beta.13/8.7.Beta.13) with SMTP id WAA18601 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 22:59:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 22:59:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199509010259.WAA18601@sentinel.synapse.net> X-Sender: phong@pop.synapse.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: phong@phsmc.synapse.net (Patrick Hong) Subject: Re: TP-755CX keyboard release problem >TP-755CX Owners, > Joseph, I have a Thinkpad 755CX and my latches look like your Exhibit A. While I agree with you that I have to pull the tabs slightly apart to lift the keyboard, I think it is supposed to be design this way. The reason being that you would release your keyboard everytime you open the computer. I've seen many of the 755 (CE, CD, CX) and they are all like this. Sorry to disagree with you but IBM wins on this one. ...patrick ______________________________________________________________________ Patrick Hong Systems Management & Consulting Inc. phong@phsmc.synapse.net (613) 769-1544 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 31 23:29:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18351; Thu, 31 Aug 95 23:29:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21528; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 23:22:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 23:22:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21518; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 23:22:09 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA20017; Thu, 31 Aug 95 23:22:48 -0400 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 95 23:22:48 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509010322.AA20017@nile.gnat.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, phong@phsmc.synapse.net Subject: Re: TP-755CX keyboard release problem patrick says "I have a Thinkpad 755CX and my latches look like your Exhibit A. While I agree with you that I have to pull the tabs slightly apart to lift the keyboard, I think it is supposed to be design this way. The reason being that you would release your keyboard everytime you open the computer. I've seen many of the 755 (CE, CD, CX) and they are all like this. Sorry to disagree with you but IBM wins on this one." I think the point is that the design here is definitely flaky. For example, on my 755CX, the left catch is reasonable, requires just a bit of extra pressure, but the right side catch is impossible without moving it out manually. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Aug 31 23:30:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18358; Thu, 31 Aug 95 23:30:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21358; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 23:20:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 23:20:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nile.gnat.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA21348; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 23:20:41 -0400 Received: by nile.gnat.com (5.61/1.34) id AA20009; Thu, 31 Aug 95 23:21:13 -0400 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 95 23:21:13 -0400 From: dewar@nile.gnat.com (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9509010321.AA20009@nile.gnat.com> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, phong@phsmc.synapse.net Subject: Re: TP-755CX keyboard release problem Patrick says "Unless you had a VERY different Thinkpad 700C / 720C from mine, the keyboard on these models didn't lift up. But there latches were released by pushing forward rather than towards you." that's right, I had forgotten :-)