From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Thu Apr 20 21:22:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28152; Thu, 20 Apr 95 21:22:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02389; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 21:03:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 21:03:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from Pion by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02371; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 21:03:36 -0400 Received: from by (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA09330; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:11:31 +0900 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:11:31 +0900 From: Lee Hounshell Message-Id: <199504210111.KAA09330@Pion> To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU, jokim@mit.edu, tp750@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? >i never tried on my 750C, only on my 755C, so I can't say anything from >experience about the 750C, but on the 755C, Doom works fine with full >sound (the only reason I keep repeating this is to make clear that this >is based not on guesswork, but my ears :-) I have a 755C, and the only way I could get sound for doom was to attach my Thinkpad to a DockII equipped with a Soundblaster card... that combo works fine, but I was never able to get the Soundblaster emulation to work. Perhaps you can post (or email) copies of your config.sys and autoexec.bat.... I'd be really interested to know how you did this. -Lee From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 22:11:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05804; Thu, 20 Apr 95 22:11:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06862; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:03:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:03:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from noc4.dccs.upenn.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06850; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:03:07 -0400 Received: from DOLPHIN.UPENN.EDU by noc4.dccs.upenn.edu id AA02541; Thu, 20 Apr 95 22:02:57 -0400 Received: by dolphin.upenn.edu id WAA22830; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:02:56 -0400 From: mtran@dolphin.upenn.edu (Mark Tran) Posted-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:02:56 -0400 Message-Id: <199504210202.WAA22830@dolphin.upenn.edu> Subject: memory upgrade To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:02:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23-upenn2.9] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello all, i'm just wondering how much it would cost to upgrade the memory on my machine to either 12 or 20 MB. i don't mind paying a little more if the memory is from a dependable source... thanks for the help. mark From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 20 22:17:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06007; Thu, 20 Apr 95 22:17:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07452; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:10:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:10:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07434; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:10:27 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id WAA03622; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:14:14 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:14:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Roleigh Martin Cc: Keith Moore , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: PC Factory Outlet In-Reply-To: <9504202243.AA11525@lochness.uhc.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Keith said: > > Otherwise, maybe people who are interested could let you know by > > private email, and you could send it to just those who are interested. We have this situation crop up occasionally. Perhaps there's another solution for it. Most mailing list software supports having file requests, and I believe this software is no exception. Is there a way to submit a mail message and have the tp750-request address spit it back? We could then post summaries and how to get it. I'd offer to put it on my web page for people, but I'm pushing quota already and additional space on this system is prohibitively expensive... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 01:27:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00430; Fri, 21 Apr 95 01:27:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA19746; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 01:18:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 01:18:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA19737; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 01:18:34 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id BAA13800; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 01:15:13 -0400 Message-Id: <199504210515.BAA13800@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: Don Whiteside Cc: Roleigh Martin , Keith Moore , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: PC Factory Outlet In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 20 Apr 1995 22:14:13 EDT." Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 01:15:07 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU > > > Otherwise, maybe people who are interested could let you know by > > > private email, and you could send it to just those who are interested. > > We have this situation crop up occasionally. Perhaps there's another > solution for it. Most mailing list software supports having file > requests, and I believe this software is no exception. Actually, this mailing list is run by me. I read the messages sent to tp750-request, interpret them, and type in commands to subscribe, unsubscribe, or send help to people. If the message doesn't fit into one of those categories, I send back an ordinary reply. I'd offer to put the file up on the ftp server here, except that (a) it's probably inappropriate to use a University of Tennessee file server to distribute an advertisement for IBM, and (b) there's no easy way for someone else to keep it updated. Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 03:21:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17672; Fri, 21 Apr 95 03:21:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24281; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 02:52:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 02:52:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA24271; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 02:52:28 -0400 Received: from ppp3.basenet.net (ppp3.basenet.net [204.248.92.3]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA07195 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 00:51:44 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 00:51:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199504210551.AAA07195@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Subject: A home for the PC Factory Outlet List Wow, I didn't mean to tie up so much bandwidth! Here's what I've decided to do. You all already have the list I sent out. I'll have my homepage up within the next month (if I get this darn Notes class developed). I'll put access to the list there and keep it updated. When I get the page up, I'll let you all know how to get there. In the meantime, if another list becomes available, I'll create a distribution list of everyone that wants me to send it to them. When I get it, I'll forward it to the list. If you want to be on the list, send me an email (not the listserve) [krisdw@basenet.net]. I think this'll satisfy everyone and keep the costs down for those of you that have to pay for mail. |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 07:03:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17774; Fri, 21 Apr 95 07:03:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA16163; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 06:47:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 06:47:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hpserv0.cs.uit.no by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA16153; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 06:47:53 -0400 Received: from haralds.cs.uit.no by hpserv0.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/Task/HJ-5) id AA284001247; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:47:28 +0200 Received: by haralds.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/HJ/Task-5) id AA041781247; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:47:27 +0200 From: harald@staff.cs.uit.no (Harald Skotnes) Message-Id: <199504211047.AA041781247@haralds.cs.uit.no> Subject: Bad trackpoint III on 755cd To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:47:27 +0200 (METDST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23GIJ-4] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi! My department has now got 9 755cd's and already two tracpoint III are beginning to fail. The left button does not work properly and are causing the user to do multiple clics to get respons. Is this a design weakness of the TPIII that others have noticed too or is it just us that have been unlucky? -- //// Harald Skotnes // Email: harald@staff.cs.uit.no / /// Dept. of Computer Science // Phone: +47 77 64 41 16 // // University of Tromsoe // Fax: +47 77 64 40 54 /// / N-9037 TROMSOE NORWAY // Like it or not, it's One World //// From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 07:31:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21305; Fri, 21 Apr 95 07:31:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA17242; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:19:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:19:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from duvi.eskom.co.za by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA17223; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:19:14 -0400 Received: from netman.eskom.co.za by duvi.eskom.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0s2GjW-0001bSC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 13:18 RSA Received: from MP2NFS02/SpoolDir by netman.eskom.co.za (Mercury 1.21); 21 Apr 95 13:18:45 GMT+2 Received: from SpoolDir by MP2NFS02 (Mercury 1.21); 21 Apr 95 13:18:32 GMT+2 From: "Richard Ellerbrock" Organization: ESKOM Information Technology To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 13:18:23 GMT+2 Subject: OS/2 WARP and Windows video on 755c Reply-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za X-Confirm-Reading-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <20D378B0E94@netman.eskom.co.za> I somehow managed to mess my video up under WINOS/2 on my thinkpad 755c. I then did a selective install to attempt to correct the problem, but now it is worse than ever! When I run Windows, the display is zoomed up about four times its normal size and I can thus only see the top left quarter corner of Windows screen! I think there is a problem with either the win.ini file or system.ini file. I would appreciate it if somebody with the same configuration could forward me copies of thier files. -- richarde@netman.eskom.co.za Richard Ellerbrock (ECNE) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 07:59:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24667; Fri, 21 Apr 95 07:59:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18133; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:37:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:37:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18122; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:37:37 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA03902; Fri, 21 Apr 95 07:38:25 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 07:38:25 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504211138.AA03902@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: doom and sound I had said that the sound on DOOM worked fine on my 755C, but that was wrong, the sound effects are indeed just PC speaker effefcts. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 08:30:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00026; Fri, 21 Apr 95 08:30:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18865; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:53:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:53:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from duvi.eskom.co.za by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA18854; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 07:52:49 -0400 Received: from netman.eskom.co.za by duvi.eskom.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0s2HG0-0001b9C; Fri, 21 Apr 95 13:52 RSA Received: from MP2NFS02/SpoolDir by netman.eskom.co.za (Mercury 1.21); 21 Apr 95 13:52:18 GMT+2 Received: from SpoolDir by MP2NFS02 (Mercury 1.21); 21 Apr 95 13:52:15 GMT+2 From: "Richard Ellerbrock" Organization: ESKOM Information Technology To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar), elf@dgp.toronto.edu Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 13:52:15 GMT+2 Subject: Re: OS/2 Reply-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za Cc: elf@dgp.toronto.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Confirm-Reading-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <20DC7B44D95@netman.eskom.co.za> > "The 755C supports 64k colors on an external monitor at 640x480 > resolution. I haven't tried this, but I believe the Warp drivers > support it. On the other hand, I can't imagine wanting to run 640x480 > on an external monitor -- the only reason I have such a monitor is to > run higher resolutions." > > for photo stuff, more colors is more important than higher resolution, > certainly the jump from 8-bits to 16-bits is critical. 8-bits is VERY > limiting. So tell me how do I get more than 256k colours on an external monitor under Warp on a 755c? -- richarde@netman.eskom.co.za Richard Ellerbrock (ECNE) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 08:38:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00278; Fri, 21 Apr 95 08:38:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19333; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:04:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:04:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from fosters.roc.servtech.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA19318; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:04:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 08:08:21 EST Message-Id: <9504210808.AA19476@fosters.roc.servtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Randall King" Reply-To: To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: PC Factory Outlet X-Mailer: In reply to: > >I am firmly opposed to having to read objections to having the list posted, >and if I had to pay for incoming email, I would really be opposed. Let's >have this posted reguarly. If you don't like it delete it, or set your >mailer to dump it immediately. > >I actually find the factory list the most useful email I have received >from the tp750 list. I agree. If we can stand to have the IBM release info sent out to the group, I think this information can be tolerated. After all, it does have info about TP's in it. It beats seeing 15-20 messages arguing about Doom and sound... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 09:55:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12218; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:55:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27070; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:28:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:28:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from enterprise.america.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27060; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:28:45 -0400 Received: from engineering.ppp.america.com by enterprise.america.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA05019; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:27:38 +0500 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:27:36 +0500 Message-Id: <9504211327.AA05019@enterprise.america.com> X-Sender: richh@199.170.102.100 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: rrh@america.com (Richard Holtz) Subject: IBM factory Store List Like others on this divided subject we strongly side with those who would like to see the list post to this maillist. It is more useful than much of the trivia that we read. A Public Thank You to Kris is in order..... Rich ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tel:904 676 2725 Fax:904 676 0237 Car:904 679 4858 Portable:904 679 4851 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 10:32:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17346; Fri, 21 Apr 95 10:32:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00644; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:01:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:01:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00634; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:01:26 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0s2JHO-0004tgC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:01 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0s2JHN-0002ncC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:01 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0s2JHK-0002wvC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:01 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: OS/2 To: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:01:50 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9504201945.AA0047@omerie.ai.mit.edu> from "cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu" at Apr 20, 95 03:45:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The 755C supports 64k colors on an external monitor at 640x480 > resolution. I haven't tried this, but I believe the Warp drivers > support it. On the other hand, I can't imagine wanting to run 640x480 > on an external monitor -- the only reason I have such a monitor is to > run higher resolutions. FYI, There is a KNOWN bug with the OS/2 WARP video driver for the Western Digital part used in the 360 and 75X line of machines. Basically you cannot select the refresh rate for a given resolution. In addition you cannot set the controller to all possible modes (including depth of the color map). IBM claimed this week that they are about to release the new driver (read after WARP connect ships). -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 10:36:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17848; Fri, 21 Apr 95 10:36:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01704; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:08:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:08:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01694; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:08:03 -0400 From: Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0s2JNb-0004tqC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:08 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0s2JNZ-0002ncC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:08 CDT Received: from bart by bart.dsd.northrop.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0s2JNY-0002wvC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:08 CDT Message-Id: Subject: Re: PC Factory Outlet To: moore@CS.UTK.EDU (Keith Moore) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:07:53 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199504202125.RAA13173@wilma.cs.utk.edu> from "Keith Moore" at Apr 20, 95 05:25:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: strat@CS.UTK.EDU > Especially since it's not ThinkPad-oriented, I don't think it's > appropriate to post it here. I have to disagree. If I was looking for a Thinkpad and couldn't afford list price, I would consider a rebuilt from the factory outlet. (In fact I have a rebuilt 750C from IBM.) If it wasn't for this list, I would have never known that the outlet even existed. This must mean that the posting WAS ThinkPad-oriented.... P.S. I am sick of "I'm paying for this so I don't want to listen to it" messages. Get a real service where you are not paying per message rates. (Sorry but it's my opinion.) -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 11:38:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26156; Fri, 21 Apr 95 11:38:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08252; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:24:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:24:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA08235; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:24:28 -0400 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id aa19073; 21 Apr 95 15:33 GMT-60:00 Received: from filct.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa03207; 21 Apr 95 15:33 GMT-60:00 From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: harald@staff.cs.uit.no, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Bad trackpoint III on 755cd Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:13:24 BST Message-Id: <9504211413.aa13249@hipass.filct.com> My department has now got 9 755cd's and already two tracpoint III are beginning to fail. The left button does not work properly and are causing the user to do multiple clics to get respons. Is this a design weakness of the TPIII that others have noticed too or is it just us that have been unlucky? Well, I thought it was my imagination, but now ... Sometimes, the left button is fine, other times it does seem to need an extra click or three. BTW, I have a 755CE Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 11:49:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27875; Fri, 21 Apr 95 11:49:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09326; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:36:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:36:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09316; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:36:20 -0400 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by Eisner.DECUS.Org (PMDF V4.2-12 #4291) id <01HPLL4COEJ4000O17@Eisner.DECUS.Org>; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:36:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:36:02 -0400 (EDT) From: billy@mix.com Subject: [ADMIN] Re: PC Factory Outlet Sender: YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <798478562.25783.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Mail-System-Version: Why not just edit the Outlet's list down to only the Thinkpad listings? As I recall in the not too distant past that's what someone here did - in fact, I'd have never guessed the 'real' list was as big as it is(!)... Billy Y.. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 12:02:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00212; Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:02:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11082; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:51:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:51:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom18.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA11072; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 11:51:53 -0400 Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id IAA23335; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 08:33:19 -0700 Message-Id: <199504211533.IAA23335@netcom18.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 07:42:54 EDT From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Reply-To: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.05 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: Re: IBM factory Store List Count me in on the side of post the List. I think it is a valuable piece of information. I do not think there is value in removing the non thinkpad related text just to make it thinkpad only. Come too think of it would that not be seen as harware segregationist policies :-) As for those who say Ipay for the messages I get. Get real !! the cost per message is minimal and the cost of the connection for the time to download is virtually nothing. Martin P. Smith msmith@netcom.com On Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:27:36 +0500 you wrote: >Like others on this divided subject we strongly side with those who would >like to see the list post to this maillist. It is more useful than much of >the trivia that we read. > >A Public Thank You to Kris is in order..... > >Rich > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Tel:904 676 2725 Fax:904 676 0237 Car:904 679 4858 Portable:904 679 4851 >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------------------------- Martin P. Smith msmith@netcom.com 1988 gun deaths: Canada 5, Great Britain 8, USA over 8500 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 12:22:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03409; Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:22:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00797; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:02:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:02:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA00784; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:02:36 -0400 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 6241; Fri, 21 Apr 95 10:02:35 EDT Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 2120; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:02:35 EDT Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Fri, 21 Apr 95 10:02:35 EDT Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA25905; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:02:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:02:34 -0400 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9504211402.AA25905@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Robert Dewar's message of Thu, 20 Apr 95 19:48:48 -0400 <9504202348.AA18347@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> Subject: [ADMIN] Re: PC Factory Outlet >I am firmly opposed to having to read objections to having the list posted, >and if I had to pay for incoming email, I would really be opposed. Let's >have this posted reguarly. If you don't like it delete it, or set your >mailer to dump it immediately. oh come on, the objections aren't any worse than you gloating (and ungloating) over the fact that you got Doom sound to run on your 755. --andy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 12:32:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03946; Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:32:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01816; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:09:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:09:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA01800; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:08:59 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0s2JOg-0004tgC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:09 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0s2JOf-0002ncC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:09 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0s2JOe-0002wvC; Fri, 21 Apr 95 09:09 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: OS/2 To: rjking@fosters.roc.servtech.com Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 09:09:23 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9504201701.AA24460@fosters.roc.servtech.com> from "Randall King" at Apr 20, 95 05:01:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > In reply to: > This is off of the subject just a little, but are the TP 360's only 16 > color, or can they go to 256? Read my posting on driver limitations, but my 360 (office unit) DOES support 256 colors in all resolutions. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 12:47:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06060; Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:47:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14594; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:32:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:32:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14582; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:32:54 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA06951; Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:33:36 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:33:36 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504211633.AA06951@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: stevens@watson.ibm.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Re: PC Factory Outlet actually I misunderstood the Doom question, because the original question said "music", and I do indeed have music playing! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 12:54:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07552; Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:54:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14904; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:38:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:38:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14881; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:38:17 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24439; Thu, 20 Apr 95 12:38:10 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id MAA06882; Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:36:46 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9504201236.ZM6880@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 1995 12:36:44 -0700 In-Reply-To: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (John H. Kim) "Re: Parallel port sound card?" (Apr 20, 8:24am) References: <9504201323.AA19663@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? Cc: jokim@mit.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Apr 20, 8:24am, John H. Kim wrote: > Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? > On Thu, 20 Apr 95 08:39:57 -0400 you wrote: > > >stop telling me I don't get sound with Doom on a 755C. I am running the > >original shareware episode on my 755C in a DOS full window with full > >sound. > > 1) I've never gotten Doom's sound (digital or music) working under DOS. The audio support works fine on the ThinkPad 750/755C's if you have the IBM SoundBlaster emulation TSR's running *AND* you are running a program in real- mode. For instance, Castle Wolfenstein sounds great. > 3) Doom's digital audio routines are broken -- it doesn't work on > virtually all OS/2 machines, and in some DOS machines. Has anyone > looked into a possible relationship between this and the sound > problems Doom has on the TP? Or are they unrelated? The sound chip that IBM chose for the 750 and 755C's is register incompatible with the SoundBlaster OPL-1 chip. They therefore supplied a real-mode TSR which intercepts SB interrupt requests and re-routes the call to the IBM SB emulation routines. Games like DOOM and Links386, and operating systems like OS/2 run in protected mode -- they cannot access the real-mode TSR's. This does not mean that Doom's audio routines are broken -- they are just incompatible. If IBM ever re-wrote their SB emulators to run in protected mode, games like Doom would run fine. Robert -- -- | Robert George | Army Research Laboratory | | robertg@assb01.arl.mil | AMSRL-SS-IC | | Voice: (408) 656-3316 | 2800 Powder Mill Road | | Fax: (408) 656-2814 | Adelphi, MD 20783-1197 | For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow. --Ecclesiastes 1:18 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 12:55:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07557; Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:55:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14894; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:38:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:38:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from booz.bah.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14879; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:38:17 -0400 Received: from smtpjii.bah.com (smtpjii.bah.com [156.80.9.162]) by booz.bah.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id MAA15025 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 12:37:03 -0400 Received: by smtpjii.bah.com with Microsoft Mail id <2F9808C9@smtpjii.bah.com>; Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:34:33 PDT From: Phillips Ted To: tp750 Subject: Trackpoint III compatibility Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 12:37:00 PDT Message-Id: <2F9808C9@smtpjii.bah.com> Encoding: 7 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Are the cat's tongue caps used with the TPIII interchangeable with the TPII smooth caps? I am sick and tired of losing traction after eating potato chips with lunch and would like to pick up some cat's tongue caps for my 360C. P:\Ted phillipst@bah.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 13:42:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14418; Fri, 21 Apr 95 13:42:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17897; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 13:22:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 13:22:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17877; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 13:21:57 -0400 Received: from [128.120.18.132] by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.6.12/UCD3.4) id KAA26616; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:21:28 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 10:21:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199504211721.KAA26616@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: sztarkin@peseta.ucdavis.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: bktarkington@ucdavis.edu (Brian K. Tarkington) Subject: Re: PC Factory Outlet >> Especially since it's not ThinkPad-oriented, I don't think it's >> appropriate to post it here. > >I have to disagree. If I was looking for a Thinkpad and couldn't afford >list price, I would consider a rebuilt from the factory outlet. >(In fact I have a rebuilt 750C from IBM.) > >If it wasn't for this list, I would have never known that the outlet >even existed. This must mean that the posting WAS ThinkPad-oriented.... > >P.S. > >I am sick of "I'm paying for this so I don't want to listen to it" messages. >Get a real service where you are not paying per message rates. >(Sorry but it's my opinion.) >-- >Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com > | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) Those are my sentiments exactly. I am against having the list edited. If Kris is nice enough to go to the effort of posting it, he shouldn't have to screw around with editing it. What's the big deal with this? _________________________________ Brian K. Tarkington University of California at Davis bktarkington@ucdavis.edu 74033.2574@compuserve.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 13:47:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15157; Fri, 21 Apr 95 13:47:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18580; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 13:31:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 13:31:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA18561; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 13:31:33 -0400 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA03296; Fri, 21 Apr 95 11:30:57 MDT Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 11:30:57 MDT From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9504211730.AA03296@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Trackpoint III compatibility > Are the cat's tongue caps used with the TPIII interchangeable with the TPII > smooth caps? I am sick and tired of losing traction after eating potato > chips with lunch and would like to pick up some cat's tongue caps for my > 360C. Yeah, they're interchangeable - my 360 is sporting one now. Just a thought: If you give up those potato chips and apply the savings toward the purchase of some new caps, you should be able to finance your purchase in about 3 years ;) -- Karl E. Yeanoplos Denver, CO. kyeanopl@den.mmc.com / key@csn.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 15:43:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03107; Fri, 21 Apr 95 15:43:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24999; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:18:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:18:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24988; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:18:03 -0400 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA20022; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 14:17:58 -0500 Message-Id: <9504211917.AA20022@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:18:53 EDT From: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (John H. Kim) Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu (John H. Kim) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.0 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: Re: Parallel port sound card? >Games like DOOM and Links386, and operating systems like OS/2 run in protected >mode -- they cannot access the real-mode TSR's. This does not mean that Doom's >audio routines are broken -- they are just incompatible. No no. I meant Doom's digital sounds are broken under OS/2 and some DOS machines even with a real Soundblaster and a desktop. I don't think there's a connection with the incompatibility with the 750, but I haven't seen that disproven either. _______________________________________________________________________ |\ ______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like | | | jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes." | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 15:43:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03120; Fri, 21 Apr 95 15:43:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24811; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:15:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:15:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA24797; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:14:59 -0400 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA19934; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 14:14:54 -0500 Message-Id: <9504211914.AA19934@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 14:15:52 EDT From: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (John H. Kim) Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu (John H. Kim) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.0 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: Re: PC Factory Outlet > I am sick of "I'm paying for this so I don't want to listen to it" messages. > Get a real service where you are not paying per message rates. I don't think anybody who pays has posted a message yet. If there's no objection within a week or so, I don't see why the file can't be posted here. It really should be the responsibilty of the people paying per message to tell us that they have a problem with it. _______________________________________________________________________ |\ ______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like | | | jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes." | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 16:30:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09230; Fri, 21 Apr 95 16:30:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28874; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:53:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:53:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28863; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:53:21 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA10401; Fri, 21 Apr 95 15:54:09 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 15:54:09 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504211954.AA10401@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 755CD max memory does someone know what the max mem is on the 755CD. I read everywhere 40 megs, bbut I remember some discussion a while ago of putting two 32 meg DIMS on the machine. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 17:03:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13797; Fri, 21 Apr 95 17:03:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02073; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:35:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:35:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02057; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 16:35:10 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA10780; Fri, 21 Apr 95 16:35:57 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 95 16:35:57 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9504212035.AA10780@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Pentium upgrade are we sure that the Pentium upgrade will be something that can actually be done to existing 755CD machines? or is it just that a new Pentium model of the 755 will appear? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 17:50:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20219; Fri, 21 Apr 95 17:50:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07245; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 17:36:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 17:36:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07233; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 17:36:21 -0400 Received: from ppp32.basenet.net (ppp32.basenet.net [204.248.92.32]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA22957; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:35:36 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 1995 15:35:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199504212035.PAA22957@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Subject: Re: OS/2 WARP and Windows video on 755c >I somehow managed to mess my video up under WINOS/2 on my thinkpad >755c. I then did a selective install to attempt to correct the >problem, but now it is worse than ever! When I run Windows, the >display is zoomed up about four times its normal size and I can thus >only see the top left quarter corner of Windows screen! I think there >is a problem with either the win.ini file or system.ini file. I would >appreciate it if somebody with the same configuration could forward >me copies of thier files. > >-- >richarde@netman.eskom.co.za >Richard Ellerbrock (ECNE) > > Sounds like your resolution has altered. If it's just the windows that are large, and the icons and text are the coreect size, you just need to resize all of the windows. It's because they may have been created under a higher resolution that what you are at now. I have that happen,not on my TP but under desktops when I changed drivers. |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 21 19:27:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05587; Fri, 21 Apr 95 19:27:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13492; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 19:17:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 19:16:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.efd.lth.se by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA13476; Fri, 21 Apr 1995 19:16:54 -0400 Received: from efd.lth.se (f91el@mars-2.efd.lth.se [130.235.39.12]) by kobra.efd.lth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id BAA14375 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 01:15:04 +0200 Message-Id: <199504212315.BAA14375@kobra.efd.lth.se> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: ftp.pcco.ibm.com changed? Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 01:15:02 +0200 From: Erik Lindahl Hi, I tried to get a driver from the PCCO today, but found that they had changed? Does anybody of you know where we can find them onow? Regards, Erik From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 22 07:26:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13484; Sat, 22 Apr 95 07:26:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29329; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 07:15:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 07:15:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29317; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 07:15:42 -0400 Received: from ppp5.basenet.net (ppp5.basenet.net [204.248.92.5]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA28743; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 05:15:02 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 05:15:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199504221015.FAA28743@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Erik Lindahl , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Subject: Re: ftp.pcco.ibm.com changed? >Hi, >I tried to get a driver from the PCCO today, but found that >they had changed? >Does anybody of you know where we can find them onow? > >Regards, > >Erik > Try the IBM PCCO BBS at BBS Phone Number: 919-517-0001 |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 22 07:33:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14108; Sat, 22 Apr 95 07:33:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29788; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 07:24:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 07:24:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29778; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 07:24:35 -0400 Received: from ppp5.basenet.net (ppp5.basenet.net [204.248.92.5]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA28827 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 05:24:16 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 05:24:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199504221024.FAA28827@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Subject: IBM's Warp Pharmacy Hey folks, I was just surfing a bit and found a a really great WWW site on Warp. It is called the Warp Pharmacy. I found it by going to HTTP://www.ibm.com/News/. To jump directly there use this: http://www.zeta.org.au/%7Ejon/WarpPharmacy.html |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 22 10:20:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05166; Sat, 22 Apr 95 10:20:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09679; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 10:07:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 10:07:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from is1.hk.super.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09669; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 10:07:24 -0400 Received: by is1.hk.super.net id AA28881 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Sat, 22 Apr 1995 21:44:55 +0800 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 21:44:55 +0800 From: "Mr. Tony K Ng" Message-Id: <199504221344.AA28881@is1.hk.super.net> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Hi all, Just wondering if there is any new ibm ftp sites for us to get the most updated system diskettes for TP750C? By the way, what are the filenames of the most updated diskettes for TP750C then? Thanks a lot for your help. -Tony From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 22 11:08:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14028; Sat, 22 Apr 95 11:08:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13891; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 11:00:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 11:00:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uu10.psi.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA13875; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 11:00:18 -0400 Received: from uu0924.UUCP by uu10.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA20276 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 95 10:54:51 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 95 10:49:25 EST From: bedin@ace.com (Bedin) Subject: Refurbished Message-Id: <9504221049.0.UUL1.3#25274@ace.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Hello folks. I have been reading along here and am enjoying all the helpful info. It's a long story but within the next couple of weeks I will be recieving a Thinkpad 755c. I have some suspicions as to whether the unit will be refurbished or not. Aside from obvious cosemetic appearances, is there a sure way by either a stamp or serial number to tell if the unit is refurbished or not? Any eductaed guesses appreciated. Also, would anyone know if there exists a FAQ somewhere on the net related to THINKPADS? I am trying to learn as much as I can. Again thanks to all for the posts and to whomever administers this list. email: bedin@ace.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 22 13:12:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29057; Sat, 22 Apr 95 13:12:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20872; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 13:00:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 13:00:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA20856; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 13:00:22 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id NAA03403; Sat, 22 Apr 1995 13:04:13 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 13:04:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Thinkpad List Subject: Car adaptors Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was in Computer City today (and bought a Panasonic PCMCIA 2x CDROM! I'll report my feelings on it once I get a chance to play) and looked at a few DC->AC converters. They all were 40W units. Looking at my universal AC adaptor that came with my TP750, it says it draws 1A at 100V. Unless my math is off, that's 60W more than these inverters provide. Anyone try it yet, or are there adaptors that provide more wattage? Or perhaps the 110v only adaptor has a lighter draw for some reason... I've got the car adaptor for my 'pad, but I'd hate to see someone blow something because of this... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 23 05:52:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24459; Sun, 23 Apr 95 05:52:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA11002; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 05:42:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 05:42:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from duvi.eskom.co.za by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA10970; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 05:41:56 -0400 Received: from netman.eskom.co.za by duvi.eskom.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0s2y9a-0001ctC; Sun, 23 Apr 95 11:40 RSA Received: from MP2NFS02/SpoolDir by netman.eskom.co.za (Mercury 1.21); 23 Apr 95 11:40:33 GMT+2 Received: from SpoolDir by MP2NFS02 (Mercury 1.21); 23 Apr 95 11:40:18 GMT+2 From: "Richard Ellerbrock" Organization: ESKOM Information Technology To: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams), tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 11:40:10 GMT+2 Subject: Re: OS/2 WARP and Windows video on 755c Reply-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za X-Confirm-Reading-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <23BACA23A0A@netman.eskom.co.za> > >I somehow managed to mess my video up under WINOS/2 on my thinkpad > >755c. I then did a selective install to attempt to correct the > >problem, but now it is worse than ever! When I run Windows, the > >display is zoomed up about four times its normal size and I can thus > >only see the top left quarter corner of Windows screen! I think there > >is a problem with either the win.ini file or system.ini file. I would > >appreciate it if somebody with the same configuration could forward > >me copies of thier files. > > > Sounds like your resolution has altered. If it's just the windows that are > large, and the icons and text are the coreect size, you just need to resize > all of the windows. It's because they may have been created under a higher > resolution that what you are at now. I have that happen,not on my TP but > under desktops when I changed drivers. Nope, the resolution stayed the same. All that changed is that I went from VGA to SVGA (ie 256 colours in 640x480 res). It looks like the whole Windows screen has been zoomed up about four times it's normal size. -- richarde@netman.eskom.co.za Richard Ellerbrock (ECNE) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 23 08:56:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14413; Sun, 23 Apr 95 08:56:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20065; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 08:48:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 08:48:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from enterprise.america.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA20055; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 08:48:49 -0400 Received: from tactical.ppp.america.com by enterprise.america.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA18409; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 08:47:46 +0500 Message-Id: <9504231247.AA18409@enterprise.america.com> X-Sender: richh@199.170.102.100 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 08:41:48 -0400 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: rrh@america.com (Richard Holtz) Subject: Windows 95 Is there a FAQ on the installtion of Win 95 Preview on the TP 755 ? If so where might one find it ?? Thanks to all. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Richard Holtz RRH Associates Home Control [Automation] and Building Control Systems Consultants Tel: 904 676 2725 Cell FlipPhone: 904 679 4851 Fax: 904 676 0237 internet: rrh@america.com Compuserve: Used when in field 76507,2222 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 23 09:42:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18163; Sun, 23 Apr 95 09:42:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23778; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 09:36:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 09:36:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23762; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 09:36:40 -0400 Received: from p24.slip.net (sfsp54.slip.net [204.160.88.200]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA07696; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 06:36:29 -0700 Message-Id: <199504231336.GAA07696@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 06:37:06 -0700 To: rrh@america.com (Richard Holtz), TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: Windows 95 At 08:41 AM 4/23/95 -0400, Richard Holtz wrote: >Is there a FAQ on the installtion of Win 95 Preview on the TP 755 ? If so >where might one find it ?? There's not, but you don't really need one, it installs cleanly. ________________________________________________________________________ After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you.____jesse@spine.com____http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 23 10:36:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22945; Sun, 23 Apr 95 10:36:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27239; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 10:29:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 10:29:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sh1.ro.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA27227; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 10:29:02 -0400 Received: from ts1p2.ro.com (ts1p2.ro.com [204.181.74.22]) by sh1.ro.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA06041 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 09:35:09 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 09:35:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199504231435.JAA06041@sh1.ro.com> X-Sender: dramsey@ro.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: dramsey@ro.com (Don Ramsey) Subject: Windows 95 TP hibernation Has anybody gotten their TP75x or other TP running Windows 95 to hibernate? My 750C just goes into suspend mode. I double checked for the presence of a hibernation file. Everything else is working properly thanks to some good work from some of our members that they wrote up a short while back. Thanks, Don. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 23 12:18:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04870; Sun, 23 Apr 95 12:18:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03491; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 12:11:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 12:11:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sh1.ro.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA03478; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 12:11:17 -0400 Received: from ts1p13.ro.com (ts1p13.ro.com [204.181.74.33]) by sh1.ro.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA06988 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 11:17:25 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 11:17:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199504231617.LAA06988@sh1.ro.com> X-Sender: dramsey@ro.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: dramsey@ro.com (Don Ramsey) Subject: Re: Windows 95 TP hibernation I was just checking the Compuserve Thinkpad forum. Evidently there is an incompatibility between Windows 95 and the Thinkpad's hibernation mode. IBM is supposed to be bringing out a new bios soon to fix this problem. Also I posted a note to one of the IBM sysop's there about the IBM ftp site (ftp.pcco.ibm.com) having its contents changed so that drivers, etc. are no longer available. I asked him to tell me if an alternative site is/will be available. If I hear anything I will post an update. Don. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 23 16:50:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05188; Sun, 23 Apr 95 16:50:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17078; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 16:39:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 16:39:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gsfc.nasa.gov by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA17067; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 16:39:41 -0400 Received: from neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov by gsfc.nasa.gov (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA13541; Sun, 23 Apr 95 16:39:32 -0400 Received: from breezy by neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov via SMTP (950215.SGI.8.6.10/920502.SGI) id QAA19218; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 16:44:22 -0400 Message-Id: <199504232044.QAA19218@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov> X-Sender: kirk@neptune X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 16:39:37 -0400 To: Thinkpad List From: kirk@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert Kirk) Subject: Re: Car adaptors Cc: Don Whiteside At 01:04 PM 4/22/95 -0400, Don Whiteside wrote: > I was in Computer City today (and bought a Panasonic PCMCIA 2x CDROM! >I'll report my feelings on it once I get a chance to play) and looked at >a few DC->AC converters. They all were 40W units. Looking at my universal >AC adaptor that came with my TP750, it says it draws 1A at 100V. Unless >my math is off, that's 60W more than these inverters provide. > > Anyone try it yet, or are there adaptors that provide more wattage? Or >perhaps the 110v only adaptor has a lighter draw for some reason... I've >got the car adaptor for my 'pad, but I'd hate to see someone blow >something because of this... > Radio Shack's puts out 140 watts @ 115 Volts. I've had no trouble with it... Bob Kirk From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 23 20:43:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04192; Sun, 23 Apr 95 20:43:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29374; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 20:33:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 20:33:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from enterprise.america.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29363; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 20:33:45 -0400 Received: from holodeck.ppp.america.com by enterprise.america.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA20405; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 20:32:37 +0500 Message-Id: <9504240032.AA20405@enterprise.america.com> X-Sender: richh@199.170.102.100 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 20:33:19 -0400 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: rrh@america.com (Richard Holtz) Subject: IBM FTP Site Looks like someone pulled the plu on all the files. Is there a new site ??? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Richard Holtz RRH Associates Home Control [Automation] and Building Control Systems Consultants Tel: 904 676 2725 Cell FlipPhone: 904 679 4851 Fax: 904 676 0237 internet: rrh@america.com Compuserve: Used when in field 76507,2222 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 23 21:38:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12010; Sun, 23 Apr 95 21:38:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02876; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 21:28:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 21:28:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02866; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 21:28:52 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id VAA11270; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 21:32:37 -0400 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 21:32:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Richard Holtz Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: IBM FTP Site In-Reply-To: <9504240032.AA20405@enterprise.america.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 23 Apr 1995, Richard Holtz wrote: > Looks like someone pulled the plu on all the files. Is there a new site ??? Hmm, sure does. Wish I'd mirrored it at some point. Shoot. ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "I timed it. It took 22 seconds for him to hate you." - Chicago Hope ======================================================================== From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 23 22:11:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16751; Sun, 23 Apr 95 22:11:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05167; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 22:03:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 22:03:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA05157; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 22:03:31 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id WAA13769; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 22:07:26 -0400 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 22:07:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Thinkpad List Subject: Panasonic PCMCIA CDROM Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Okay, I lied. I played with it today, rather than working on my project due in 2.5 hours. DEBUG -o 3E0 0 -i 3E1 -83 <- TEST RESULT -q A result value of 82, 83 and 84 indicates that the PC is using i82365 (or compatible LSI), and the ASPI365.SYS should operate. In case the ASPI365.SYS doesn't operate, follow the error messages on the screen. When 'FF' appears as the result value, you cannot use the ASPI365.SYS. In such a case, there is a possibility that the PC is using the DATABOOK PCMCIA controller. If so, you must setup both CardTalk and the ASPIDBK.SYS to use the CD-ROM drive. ------------ end quote ---------- The point enabler went in fine. I disabled the C&S and put it in, worked on the first try. Supposedly the driver under C&S support hot swapping, I didn't try it. The only caveat the readme mentions is you must leave the CD ROM unit on and return the card to the same slot. The second driver is the typical CD ROM-specific driver. It's just an ASPI driver for this drive. You can use it on top of another ASPI card and driver. Last is the MSCDEX progam, a standard program that assigns a drive letter to the CD ROM. In theory, this card will support other devices. I don't have any devices with a half pitch SCSI connector or an adaptor, so I can't test this. If I ever manage to, I'll let you all know. The buffer is 128k, data trans is 2.5M max. next: the drive Nice unit. 2x speed, uses (as mentioned) the half pitch 50 pin SCSI connector. Only one connector, so if you want to use it with somethign else, you must put it at the end of the chain. Has a termination switch which is NOT NECESSARY to enable when using with the PCMCIA card, saving on power. Will run on 6 AA batteries (claims for 2 hrs as CD ROM) and will also act as a standalone CD player. Has headphone jack and volume control. Can be set to SCSI id 0 thru 7. Less than a pound (.4kg) w/o batteries. 150KB/300KB transfer rate, 295ms 1/3 stroke, 380ms fullstroke access times. (are 320/400 on battery power) Will read CD-DA, CD-ROM (mode 1 and 2 Form 1), Photo CD multisession, CD-ROM XA (mode 2 form 2). Bottom Line: I'll probably keep it. At $320, the price was right. Average 2x CDROM these days seems to be $180, add the PCMCIA SCSI and this is a pretty good deal IMHO. I bought it from Computer City, so there's probably better prices out there. However, CS is running this 12 month same as cash deal on their credit card, so I figure with the investment value of having that money instead of paying in a lump sum, I come in about even. I didn't have a CD speed tester, so I can't verify the speed. Worked fine, though. Didn't have a Photo CD around, much less a multisession one, so I can't verify that either. The unit is about as sturdy as any portable CD player, meaning I wouldn't put it through too much abuse. And, like any card, it interferes with the X-Jack. The plug is almost the full width of the PCMCIA card, so nothing is getting around this thing. ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "I timed it. It took 22 seconds for him to hate you." - Chicago Hope ======================================================================== From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 23 23:53:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00241; Sun, 23 Apr 95 23:53:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11373; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 23:45:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 23:45:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11362; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 23:45:53 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id XAA21284; Sun, 23 Apr 1995 23:45:38 -0400 Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 23:45:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Thinkpad List Subject: IBM Announcements Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, for those of you interested in more info, point your web browse at: http://www.ibm.com/Products/IBMLink/listserv.html. You can use a forms-compatible (Lynx, Mosaic) Web browser to sign up for the IBM tech announcement mailing list. ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "I timed it. It took 22 seconds for him to hate you." - Chicago Hope ======================================================================== From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 24 08:57:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16117; Mon, 24 Apr 95 08:57:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21491; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:39:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:39:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21481; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:39:55 -0400 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA05783; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 07:39:51 -0500 Message-Id: <9504241239.AA05783@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 95 07:40:51 EDT From: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (John H. Kim) Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu (John H. Kim) To: mlaye@vnet.ibm.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.0 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: ftp.pcco.ibm.com Hi Mike. I'm writing about the ftp site mirroring the IBM PC BBS. You first informed me of this site when it went online. Several people on the TP750 mailing list have noticed it seems to have disappeared, replaced by Advantis' www.pcco.ibm.net server. Is there an alternative site that mirrors the PC BBS? Many of us found it an invaluable service. If this service has been discontinued, we'd really like to see it restarted. _______________________________________________________________________ |\ ______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like | | | jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes." | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 24 09:21:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19320; Mon, 24 Apr 95 09:21:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23953; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 09:09:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 09:09:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mindvox.phantom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23941; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 09:09:47 -0400 Received: (from alster@localhost) by mindvox.phantom.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) id JAA03018; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 09:05:19 -0400 Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 09:05:18 -0400 (EDT) From: taoster! Subject: Re: ftp.pcco.ibm.com To: "John H. Kim" Cc: mlaye@vnet.ibm.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9504241239.AA05783@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 24 Apr 1995, John H. Kim wrote: > Hi Mike. I'm writing about the ftp site mirroring the IBM PC BBS. > You first informed me of this site when it went online. Several > people on the TP750 mailing list have noticed it seems to have > disappeared, replaced by Advantis' www.pcco.ibm.net server. > > Is there an alternative site that mirrors the PC BBS? Many of us > found it an invaluable service. If this service has been discontinued, > we'd really like to see it restarted. As much as I hate to point it out ....www.pcco.ibm.net is the same machine as ftp.pcco.ibm.net ...and the files section on it does not work at the moment neither. I'm sure that they are probably just restructuring; although a message indicating that would be nice. :) -al http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 24 17:52:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04498; Mon, 24 Apr 95 17:52:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06627; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:34:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:34:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mthood.ohsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA06616; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 17:34:19 -0400 Received: by mthood.ohsu.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI.AUTO) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id OAA24088; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 14:33:34 -0700 From: "Ronald Sakaguchi" Message-Id: <9504241433.ZM24086@mthood.ohsu.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 14:33:28 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How can I turn down the volume of the system beeps on my TP755? The Mwave stuff is controllable with the volume control above the keyboard, but the system beeps don't seem to be controllable. It's particularly embarrassing when the low battery warning siren comes on in a quiet room. I'd like to keep it on but would like to change the volume. Thanks for your help. Ron -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ronald L. Sakaguchi, DDS, MS, PhD Dept of Biomaterials & Biomechanics Associate Professor Oregon Health Sciences University voice: (503) 494-8692 611 SW Campus Drive, SD-503 fax: (503) 494-8260 Portland, OR 97201-3097 rls@mthood.ohsu.edu ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 24 18:35:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12222; Mon, 24 Apr 95 18:35:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11072; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 18:19:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 18:19:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from stortek.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11062; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 18:19:38 -0400 Received: from deathstar.stortek.com ([129.80.18.204]) by stortek.com with SMTP id AA24249 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 24 Apr 1995 16:19:03 -0600 Received: from endor.stortek.com by deathstar.stortek.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-SESA-Main-0001) id AA26513; Mon, 24 Apr 95 16:19:01 MDT Date: Mon, 24 Apr 95 16:19:01 MDT From: ls@sweng.stortek.com (Lee Stewart) Message-Id: <9504242219.AA26513@deathstar.stortek.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: System Beep Volume > How can I turn down the volume of the system beeps on my TP755? The Mwave stuff > is controllable with the volume control above the keyboard, but the system > beeps don't seem to be controllable. It's particularly embarrassing when the > low battery warning siren comes on in a quiet room. I'd like to keep it on but > would like to change the volume. Well, on my 755C it's controlled by the Sound icon in the ThinkPad Features group. I reset mine down to a 3 normally, or even off when I have it places I don't want to disturb others. At least that works for all the tones, beeps, clicks, etc. that I've run into so far, including the low battery warning (that just went off here at work...). Lee Stewart From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Apr 24 21:42:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11884; Mon, 24 Apr 95 21:42:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23808; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 21:27:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 21:27:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA23796; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 21:27:43 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id SAA29708; Mon, 24 Apr 1995 18:27:36 -0700 Message-Id: <199504250127.SAA29708@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 95 18:28:29 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: ls@sweng.stortek.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail v1.05 Subject: Re: System Beep Volume On Mon, 24 Apr 95 16:19:01 MDT you wrote: >> How can I turn down the volume of the system beeps on my TP755? The Mwave stuff >> SNIP!! >At least that works for all the tones, beeps, clicks, etc. that I've run >into so far, including the low battery warning (that just went off here >at work...). > >Lee Stewart > Doesn't work with MY 755Cs... sure wish it did ... I'm a law student and professors get real snarly when those system beeps go off. I hate 'em!! ----------------------------------- Roger J. Buffington 1L, USC Law Center AB6WR Go Trojans!! WARPing with PM-Mail |"Even if he were mediocre, there are a lot of medicore judges & people | | & lawyers. Don't they deserve some representation on the court?" - | | Senator Roman Hruska (R-Neb), defending Judge Harold Carswell, the 1st | | Nixon nominee for the Sup.Court, against charges that he was mediocre. | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 25 12:35:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25108; Tue, 25 Apr 95 12:35:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00377; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 12:20:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 12:20:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mthood.ohsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA00354; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 12:20:23 -0400 Received: by mthood.ohsu.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI.AUTO) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id JAA02207; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 09:19:15 -0700 From: "Ronald Sakaguchi" Message-Id: <9504250919.ZM2205@mthood.ohsu.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 09:19:10 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: system beep on TP755CD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Regarding my question about decreasing the volume of the system beep, I called IBM Tech Support and they confirmed that the volume cannot be changed on the TP755CD. It's all or none. I guess the volume can be controlled on some 755's but not on the CD. Thanks for the replies! Ron -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ronald L. Sakaguchi, DDS, MS, PhD Dept of Biomaterials & Biomechanics Associate Professor Oregon Health Sciences University voice: (503) 494-8692 611 SW Campus Drive, SD-503 fax: (503) 494-8260 Portland, OR 97201-3097 rls@mthood.ohsu.edu ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 25 14:52:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14525; Tue, 25 Apr 95 14:52:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09177; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 14:35:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 14:35:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rigel.lmt.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09163; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 14:35:44 -0400 Received: from leonardo.lmt.com by rigel.lmt.com with SMTP id AA00669 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 25 Apr 1995 13:41:15 -0500 Received: from LEONARDO/SMTPQUEUE by leonardo.lmt.com (Mercury 1.13); Tue, 25 Apr 95 13:41:17 GMT-6 Received: from SMTPQUEUE by LEONARDO (Mercury 1.13); Tue, 25 Apr 95 13:41:05 GMT-6 From: "Chris Schumann" Organization: LaserMaster Technologies R&D Divn. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 13:40:58 CST6CDT Subject: TP755CD volume Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <45ACDD0566@leonardo.lmt.com> while it may be true that you can't change the volume, I wouldn't count on what anyone in IBM's level 1 (phone answerer) tech support has to say about much of anything. I've gotten several wrong answers from them, only to later discuss issues and resolve problems with level 2 support (who call you when they get a chance). Chris From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 25 15:36:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20359; Tue, 25 Apr 95 15:36:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12405; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:13:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:13:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA12394; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:13:08 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA12504 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:13:04 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA48474; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:12:59 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 15:12:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Bios updates Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII here's some of the recent stuff on the IBM BBS, seeing as how the ftp site has decided to go on vacation: Directory [37] - IBM Portables, Notebooks, Laptops [A] Votpe110.exe 738193 04-11-95 OS/2 Video Disk-755cd,ce,cse ONLY v1.10 [B] Votpe110.doc 1340 04-11-95 Documentation for votpe110.exe [C] Vwtpe110.exe 445794 04-11-95 Win Video Disk-755cd,ce,cse ONLY v1.10 [D] Vwtpe110.doc 926 04-11-95 Documentation for vwtpe110.exe [E] 5 Sy750apm.exe 355821 04-11-95 System Disk-TP750 ONLY.BIOS UpdateV.115+ [F] Sys7012r.exe 562737 04-11-95 System Disk-TP701 ButterFly V.2R [G] Sy510bio.exe 793218 04-11-95 System Disk-TP510BIOS Update [H] Modem142.dsk 438665 04-19-95 IBM PCMCIA Fax/Modem Program Disk v1.42 [I] Ir_pub.ps 1240387 04-21-95 OBI Guide for Wireless LAN (postscript) More - [Y]es or [Return], [N]o, [M]ark, [F]ive Line, [A]rcView, [Q]uit? f Enter Letter for the filename - [Return] to quit? e Five Line Description SY750APM.EXE is a BIOS update for suspend problems encountered on the IBM ThinkPad 750 (This does NOT include the 750CE) and is an upgrade for version 115 of the system diskette. Also, I don't know if anyone else saw this in this week's PC Magazine but Hewlett Packard's new HP5P printer has an infrared parallel port, so now finally something useful and worthwhile to use those infrared ports on the 755CE & CD. If the configuration is easy and it works reliably then it's a hell of a lot better than fumbling with parallel cables all the time. just my $.02 Josh Hosseinoff hosseino@yu1.yu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 25 16:11:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25863; Tue, 25 Apr 95 16:11:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16652; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 16:00:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 16:00:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from stortek.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA16631; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 16:00:28 -0400 Received: from deathstar.stortek.com ([129.80.18.204]) by stortek.com with SMTP id AA04606 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 25 Apr 1995 13:59:51 -0600 Received: from endor.stortek.com by deathstar.stortek.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-SESA-Main-0001) id AA08126; Tue, 25 Apr 95 13:59:50 MDT Date: Tue, 25 Apr 95 13:59:50 MDT From: ls@sweng.stortek.com (Lee Stewart) Message-Id: <9504251959.AA08126@deathstar.stortek.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755CD volume > while it may be true that you can't change the volume, > I wouldn't count on what anyone in IBM's level 1 > (phone answerer) tech support has to say about much > of anything. I've gotten several wrong answers from them, > only to later discuss issues and resolve problems with > level 2 support (who call you when they get a chance). All too true. Speaking only as an ex-IBMer, before I left they had vended all the level 1 support jobs (except management) out to temp firms.. It's quite possible any more that the person you get on the phone may never have seen the hardware or software that you talk to them about. And it's as true on PCs as it is on the top of the line mainframes... Lee Stewart From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Apr 25 19:43:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28631; Tue, 25 Apr 95 19:43:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA02003; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 19:33:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 19:33:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sh1.ro.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA01992; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 19:33:01 -0400 Received: from ts1p4.ro.com (ts1p4.ro.com [204.181.74.24]) by sh1.ro.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA02133 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 1995 18:39:56 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 18:39:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199504252339.SAA02133@sh1.ro.com> X-Sender: dramsey@ro.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: dramsey@ro.com (Don Ramsey) Subject: IBM pcco ftp site changed... Hey folks! I was at Comdex in Atlanta yesterday so I didn't get a chance to get back on Compuserve til tonight. I got this response from Mike Anderson when I told him about the IBM ftp site ftp.pcco.ibm.com no longer carrying drivers, etc.: >#: 76647 S1/General Info [THINKPAD] > 23-Apr-95 19:48:20 >Sb: #76590-IBM ftp site changed >Fm: Mike Anderson 72662,1116 >To: Don Ramsey 71055,402 > >Yep - I just checked it and it does seem to be set up rather strangely at the >moment... I will check on this and get it corrected. Sorry for the >inconvenience... > >Mike Anderson, ThinkPad Forum Sysop >IBM PC Co Mobile Products Tech Support >7:31 PM, Sunday, April 23, 1995 > We'll see what happens... at least I got somebody in IBM's camp to notice. Don. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 26 16:56:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00046; Wed, 26 Apr 95 16:56:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11389; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:33:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:33:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11379; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:33:05 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA14772 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:33:02 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA07292; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:32:59 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:32:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: OS2 pre-installed on Tp755 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII IBM ThinkPad 755CE, 755CSE, and 755CD -- Enhanced Preinstalled Software Announced on April 26, 1995 HARDWARE Announcement 195-122 The preinstalled software of the ThinkPad(R) 755CE, 755CSE, and 755CD systems now includes OS/2(R) Warp Version 3, with SelectaSystem(TM), and all the BonusPak applications. You can select which operating system to use based on personal preference or application requirements. OS/2 Warp Version 3 and the BonusPak applications are available at no additional charge. Three software programs are no longer preinstalled: Second Nature Screen Saver, Farallon Replica, and Official Airline Guide FlightDisk. Additionally, the IBM Demo program is no longer preinstalled on all 755CE, 755CSE, and 755CD systems with a 340MB fixed disk drive. Availability Date: April 26, 1995 (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation (TM) Trademark of International Business Machines Corporation DESCRIPTION "The summary above is the entire text of this announcement." From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 26 17:07:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02714; Wed, 26 Apr 95 17:07:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11244; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:32:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:31:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11225; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:31:55 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA14667 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:31:37 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA49462; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:31:31 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 16:31:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: New thinkpad pen model Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII IBM ThinkPad 360PE Exploits Pen-Based Technology Announced on April 26, 1995 HARDWARE Announcement 195-125 +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | IN BRIEF . . . | | | | Two new ThinkPad models enable you to take advantage of | | pen-based input and selected audio applications. | | | | Other features of interest include: | | | | o Intel** 486DX2-50/25 processor with 8KB cache, 70 ns memory | | (4MB standard on planar, customer-expandable to 20MB) | | | | o Removable 340MB (MB = million bytes) or 540MB hard disk drive | | (optional 250MB and 810MB) | | | | o Preinstalled software including PenDOS* 2.2, Microsoft** | | Windows+ for Pen Computing, and more | | | | o A 9.5-inch (maximum viewable area when measured diagonally) | | Pen DSTN side-lit color display that supports 256 crisp | | bright colors out of 4,096 | | | | o Full-sized keyboard with TrackPoint II(TM) (built-in pointing | | device), and built-in numeric keypad function | | | | o Advanced power management facilities to extend the life of | | the battery under normal usage | | | | Technical Support | | | | o ThinkPad Easy Serv warranty | | o International Warranty Service | | o HelpCenter(R) (800-772-2227) for full range of service and | | support | | o HelpWare(R) | | o ThinkPad Proven(TM) | | | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ The ThinkPad(R) 360PE portable notebook pen computer system with a color display offers advanced function at a low price. Just 6.8 pounds, and with the same styling and modular design that have made the ThinkPad notebook systems so popular, this new ThinkPad system supports the pen-based application environment and features a 16-bit internal audio card to enable certain audio applications. The distinct advantage of pen interface for a mobile worker is that the ThinkPad 360PE can take the place of a paper system in many work situations. Unlike a keyboard, the pen is not obtrusive in nature when used in front of a customer or in a group meeting -- take notes as if on paper. Also seen as benefits in a pen-based application environment, an on-board math co-processor and 8KB cache come standard with the system. Add to this the powerful processing, customer-installable memory and hard disk drives, PCMCIA expandability, auto configurability, and sophisticated power management functions, and you have an affordable computer to suit many needs. The ThinkPad 360PE STN Dual Scan Side-lit LCD color display supports pen-based applications via an electromagnetic "batteryless" untethered digitizer. The digitizer offers an additional human interface with the pen notebook system. In addition to the convenience of portable computing, the ThinkPad 360PE gives you the option of using an alternate keyboard, monitor, and mouse -- at home, at the office, or another location -- to replicate the feel of a desktop system. Features that allow you to do this include: o PCMCIA card slot that can accommodate two Type II or one Type III PC card, standard Release 2.01 o Battery- or AC-operated o External IBM peripherals supported: keyboard, mouse, printer, and numeric pad through serial or enhanced parallel ports, and SVGA monitor with simultaneous display capability o Optional docking station or port replicator Machine Planned Single Type/ Availability Unit Description Model Date Price ThinkPad 360PE (340MB HDD) 2620-B0F April 26, 1995 $3,699 ThinkPad 360PE (540MB HDD) 2620-B0G July 1995 4,049 (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation * Registered trademark of Communications Intelligence Corporation ** Company, product, or service name may be a trademark or service mark of others. + Trademark of Microsoft Corporation (TM) Trademark of International Business Machines Corporation DESCRIPTION The new ThinkPad 360PE offers power, performance, and pen input capability at a surprisingly affordable price. The ThinkPad 360PE improves the productivity of mobile professionals who work while traveling. Designed to fit into a briefcase and weighing only 6.8 pounds, the ThinkPad 360PE system is convenient to carry with you anywhere. The TrackPoint II offers pointing-device convenience -- no additional space required to operate or no need to carry an external mouse. The 9.5-inch (maximum viewable area when measured diagonally) VGA Dual Scan color display delivers the video graphics for the system. The ThinkPad 360PE offers flexibility with uncompromising performance. With the choices in customer-installable memory, you can use IC-DRAM memory cards or non-parity IC-DRAM memory options, available in 4MB, 8MB, or 16MB increments. Standard Features at a Glance o Intel 486DX2-50/25 processor with 8KB cache; 4MB of memory (customer-expandable to 20MB) o Removable 2.5-inch 340MB or 540MB hard disk drive (optional 250MB and 810MB) o 3.5-inch 1.44MB diskette drive (customer-removable) o 9.5-inch (maximum viewable area when measured diagonally) DSTN, VGA side-lit color display with digitizer for pen input o SVGA Video External Graphics Port (CGA/EGA/MCGA-compatible) o VESA Local Bus graphics with 1MB Video RAM o 16-bit internal audio card o Audio in/out jacks o Pen-based applications supported o Full-sized 85-key keyboard with TrackPoint II and built-in numeric keypad function o Removable internal nickel metal hydride (NiMh) battery pack o 35 Watt universal AC adapter o PCMCIA Slot (two Type II or one Type III PCMCIA card) o I/O ports: serial, enhanced parallel, and keyboard, mouse, and numeric pad (requires IBM Keyboard Mouse Connector accessory) o Preinstalled software including PenDOS** 2.2, Microsoft** Windows+ for Pen Computing, and more IBM ThinkPad 360PE Pen-Based Environment The ThinkPad 360PE provides two types of interface for the mobile worker -- keyboard and pen. The great advantage of pen interface for the mobile worker is that the ThinkPad 360PE can take the place of the paper system for most workers. Unlike a keyboard, the pen is not obtrusive when used in front of a customer or in a group meeting. It enables the mobile worker to take notes as if on paper. Additionally, the pen input creates an electronic image that may be stored, transmitted, or shared with others like a computer file. In many instances, it may be necessary to obtain another participant's confirmation, such as a client's signature after taking an order. The ThinkPad 360PE enables signature capture that aids in quicker paperless transaction processing. In addition, the pen-enabled ThinkPad 360PE has the ability to transform printed letters into computer-recognizable text. IBM ThinkPad 360PE Audio Environment The ThinkPad 360PE comes standard with a 16-bit internal audio card, providing support for many audio-capable applications. IBM ThinkPad 360PE Communication Environment The ThinkPad 360PE provides communication application integrity by not entering into a suspend or hibernation mode while the internal modem or PCMCIA modem option is in busy status. When certain communication PCMCIA cards are used simultaneously in two Type II PCMCIA slots, one may experience some cable interference requiring use of only one communication card at a time. When the ThinkPad 360PE system is used with either the IBM ThinkPad Dock I or IBM ThinkPad Dock II, for the comfort and convenience of the user, the height of the system should be adjusted or an external keyboard should be used. The IBM Keyboard/Mouse Connector accessory is required when attaching an external keyboard to the system via the external input device port. Additional Features Standard advanced design features and complimentary software for the ThinkPad 360PE include: o Pen o TrackPoint II pointing device o Pop-up keyboard for easy customer access to add memory, replace the battery, remove the diskette drive, or upgrade the hard disk drive capacity o Plug-in flexibility with PCMCIA card slot (two Type II or one Type III card) o VESA local bus o 1MB video RAM for enhanced graphics performance o Sleek black design synonymous with the ThinkPad, plus nameplate personalization o Preinstalled software: - PC DOS 6.3 - PenDOS 2.2 - IBM ThinkWrite(TM) 1.21 - Microsoft Windows for Pen Computing 1.0 - Microsoft Windows 3.11 - Lotus** cc:Mail**, for the IBM Global** Network - Lotus Organizer** - Lotus ScreenCam** - Official Airline Guide (OAG)** FlightDisk - Triton CoSession** Host - Prodigy - America Online - SofNet** FaxWorks** - Taxi** - Reuters Money Network** - Second Nature** Screen Saver - Farralon Replica** - Alphanet** FollowFax** - REPRINT** by Sedona - Compel PE** - Monologue** The preinstalled, complimentary software applications enable you to become immediately engaged in the mobile computing experience. Note: Applications, such as America Online** and Prodigy**, that communicate with other systems require an appropriate modem in the ThinkPad 360PE. Description of Preinstalled Applications o IBM ThinkWrite Handwriting Recognition Technology: IBM ThinkWrite is a family of IBM handwriting recognition products and technologies that uses pen for input to the computer. Current products include recognition of discrete handwriting in boxed, ruled, and unruled modes. Writing in upper case, lower case, and mixed upper and lower cases, plus selected symbols and gestures can be recognized. IBM ThinkWrite can be trained and personalized for individual writing styles. o Lotus cc:Mail, for the IBM Global Network: A solution that allows you to send and receive e-mail and faxes across compatible and incompatible networks regardless of the Value Added Network or architecture involved. o Lotus Organizer V1.12: A time manager that provides calendar, "to-do" list, planner, address book, notepad, and anniversary reminder. Note: These products contain the Personal Information Manager functions, but not workgroup scheduling. o Lotus ScreenCam V1.0: Facilitates making of a movie picture of what can be done on a display, annotating with sound, and creating a file that can be transmitted to share the information with others. o Official Airline Guide (OAG) FlightDisk: An electronic runway to the world of travel, providing flight schedules at the touch of a button. o Triton CoSession Host: Remote communications support that allows an IBM technician to dial into your PC and fix problems online. o PRODIGY: Access to continually updated news and information, connections to friends and family across the country, interactive learning experiences for children, and more. o America Online (AOL): Access to information needed while on the road, such as news stories, articles from leading magazines, and more. o SofNet FaxWorks V3.0: Allows you to send, receive, view, print, and edit faxes right from the computer. Allows your computer to act similar to a personal answering system. o Taxi: Intelligent mapping for finding addresses and planning routes in key U.S. cities. o Reuters Money Network: Combines investment software with an array of online financial information, news, and data. o Second Nature Screen Saver: Colorful and interesting pictures that can be used as a screen saver and wallpaper. o Farralon Replica: Lets you share most documents with many applications, fonts, graphics, or computer platforms. o Alphanet FollowFax for Windows: Allows you to have a personal FollowFax number that enables fax to reach you in privacy. o REPRINT by Sedona: Enables the transmission of full color documents by phone in seconds to most remote printers equipped with REPRINT. o Compel PE: A complete presentation package that lets you create stunning onscreen presentations in minutes. o Monologue: A text-to-speech program that can be used with preinstalled audio card. Note: The software programs listed in this section are licensed to you under the non-IBM manufacturer's, supplier's, or publisher's terms and conditions. The non-IBM manufacturers, suppliers, or publishers are responsible for providing any service or support associated with these programs. The descriptions of these programs were obtained from information made available by these companies to the general public. IBM does not warrant these products. The models at a glance: Machine Hard Type/ Disk Display/ Description Model Capacity Processor ThinkPad 360PE 2620-B0F 340MB DSTN/DX2 ThinkPad 360PE 2620-B0G 540MB DSTN/DX2 System Expandability Storage: The hard disk on the ThinkPad 360PE is customer-removable, allowing for maximum flexibility of storage requirements. The removable diskette drive also allows end users to configure the ThinkPad 360PE system in different ways to meet changing customer needs. Memory: The ThinkPad 360PE system accommodates multitasking operating systems and applications utilizing large memory with optional 4MB, 8MB, and 16MB IC DRAM cards. Up to 20MB of system memory is possible with these options. Communications: The ThinkPad 360PE system enables connectivity expansion, such as LAN through the IBM Token-Ring 16/4 Credit Card Adapter and the IBM PCMCIA Adapter for Ethernet, and host connection through the IBM 3270 Emulation Adapter. These connectivity solutions provide the synergy of uniting two customer assets -- portable computing and networking. They enable the portable users to access the applications and data available on their network systems. The ThinkPad 360PE system allows users who are currently not using computer power to take advantage of applications for collection and transmission of data to other systems and LANs to bring reference material immediately to hand when in the field. PCMCIA: The ThinkPad 360PE system is designed with a PCMCIA slot that accommodates two Type II or one Type III PC card. The IBM ThinkPad 360PE conforms to the PCMCIA PC Card Standard Release 2.01 and the PCMCIA Card and Socket Services Specification Release 2.0, dated November 1992. This emerging standard allows for the insertion of many devices, such as mass storage, memory, and communications. The PCMCIA Utility Diskette comes with the system unit and contains PCMCIA Socket Services Release 2.0 for DOS, PCMCIA Card Services Release 2.0 for DOS, and PCMCIA Socket Services Release 2.0 for OS/2. Convenient power management function is provided for some IBM PCMCIA cards (for example, modem, 3270, token-ring, Ethernet). For example, when the user is operating with communications application and PCMCIA card, after suspend/resume operation, the user does not need to restart the operating system or communications application. PC Card Director: PC Card Director is provided in a utility diskette for DOS, Microsoft Windows, and OS/2. PC Card Director helps a user to get status and information on PCMCIA cards installed in the system. In addition, on Microsoft Windows, it can register an application program for PCMCIA cards and execute them automatically. Auto Configurator and Memory Device Driver: Auto Configurator and Memory Device Driver enables supported PCMCIA cards by sensing them automatically. A listing of supported PCMCIA cards by Auto Configurator and Memory Device Driver is available from IBM. Advanced Power Management Power Management: The IBM ThinkPad 360PE system provides a power management system that is almost transparent to the user. The highly advanced power management hardware and software provides longer battery life. Automatic and manual power mode (standby/suspend/hibernation) operations offer energy conservation resulting in reduced battery consumption. The IBM ThinkPad 360PE system also provides a ThinkPad Features Program allowing the user to control power usage of the computer. The Fuel-Gauge Program shows remaining battery power. When using the external power, the battery status field indicates whether the battery pack is fully charged or still charging. The ThinkPad Features Program allows the user to preset power management mode for battery operation: low, medium or high performance. Power modes only affect the computer when the battery pack is in use. The user can select settings for component timeouts and select the processor speed. The timeout setting is for shut off of certain components temporarily when there has been no activity for a preset amount of time. The timeout options are: o Suspend timer -- A timeout places the computer in suspend mode. In suspend mode, the computer is off and the information remains in memory. o LCD off timer -- A timeout is set to turn the LCD off if there is no activity for a specified amount of time. o Hard Disk -- A hard disk drive timeout can be set if there is no activity for a specified amount of time. o Processor speed -- This timeout option allows the user to select the speed of the processor. The computer will run faster at higher speed settings; however, lower speed settings allow the computer to run longer on a battery charge. The processor runs at full speed when busy, and slow down when the computer is idle. The following power modes can be initiated automatically or manually: o Standby mode -- Entered for short periods of time, such as when you are having a short conversation. o Suspend mode -- Entered when you are going to be away from the computer for short periods of time. o Hibernation mode -- Entered when you leave your office, then return the following day. PRODUCT POSITIONING The IBM ThinkPad 360PE is positioned as an enhanced addition to the ThinkPad 360 Family of value notebook computers. With a convertible 9.5-inch DSTN display, this notebook computer enables pen and audio technology, at an affordable price. PUBLICATIONS The ThinkPad 360PE User's Guide (S30H-1645) is shipped with the product. The user's guide contains necessary information for setting up the system unit, using features, upgrading options, installing software, and more. The following publications are available for separate purchase. The user's guides and diskette group will be available at the respective planned availability date. To order, call the IBM Software Manufacturing Solution Hotline at 800-879-2755. Order Part Publication Number Number IBM ThinkPad 360PE User's Guide S30H-1645 30H1645 IBM 360PE Diskette Group S30H-1670 30H1670 IBM ThinkPad Technical Reference S83G-7842 30H1651 IBM Hardware Maintenance Manual S85G-1502 19H1080 IBM Hardware Maintenance Manual Supplement S30H-1644 30H1644 IBM ThinkPad Proven brochure G221-0425 IBM ThinkPad 360 Family brochure G221-4122 IBM ThinkPad 360PE Specification Sheet G221-4391 The Technical Reference publications are for programmers, engineers, and others who want to understand the ThinkPad 360PE system unit in greater detail. The publications include functional specifications, hardware specifications, and pin-outs for peripheral connectors. ThinkPad 360PE DX2-DSTN with Digitizer Service Publications (manuals and diskettes) Order Part Publication Number Number IBM Hardware Maintenance Manual S85G-1502 19H1080 IBM Hardware Maintenance Manual Supplement S30H-1644 30H1644 IBM Hardware Maintenance Diskette S82G-3891 82G3891 The Hardware Maintenance Manual contains service and reference information for IBM ThinkPad computers. The service section includes procedures for isolating problems to a FRU, related service procedures, and an illustrated parts catalog. The reference section includes safety information, product description, and general information about system functions. Publications may be ordered from an IBM Authorized Dealer, an IBM representative, or through the Technical Directory. A complete listing of IBM ThinkPad and IBM Personal Computer hardware publications is available by calling the Technical Directory at 800-IBM-PCTB (426-7282). TECHNICAL INFORMATION Specified Operating Environment ThinkPad 360PE DX2-DSTN with Digitizer: Battery operation hours and charging hours are: Function Hours Power off/suspend charging 1.5 Charging during operation 2.0 Quick charging 1.5 Battery operation (range)(1) 3.0-7.0 (1) Figures reflect industry standard tests. Actual battery life depends on power management settings, applications, and customer usage. Physical Specifications ThinkPad 360PE(2) o Width: 297 mm (11.7 in.) o Depth: 210 mm ( 8.3 in.) o Height: 53 mm ( 2.1 in.) o System weight: 3.1 kg (6.8 lb) with battery pack o Battery: 540 g (1.2 lb) o Fixed disk drive (FDD): 220 g (0.5 lb) o AC adapter: 380 g (0.8 lb), includes all cables o Travel weight: 3.5 kg (7.7 lb) (2) Approximate specifications. The actual specifications may vary due to components and manufacturing processes. Electrical Specifications o Universal AC adapter 100-240 V AC, 2.0A, 50/60Hz o Battery pack 9.6V, 1500mAH/cell, 16 cell/pack Heat Dissipation o 102.4 Btu/hour maximum Air Temperature for Shipping and Storage o -20(degs) to 60(degs)C (-4(degs) to 140(degs)F) Relative Humidity for Shipping and Storage o 5% to 95% RH Acoustic Noise Level: Class 3D (office environment) o Sound pressure level operator position: 40 dB (operating) o Sound power level: 5.1 bels (operating); 4.8 bels (idling) Note: The noise emission level stated is the declared (upper limit) sound power level, in bels, for a random sample of machines, typically configured, and operating in idle mode; for example, powered on, but no DASD read/write or other I/O activity. All measurements made in accordance with ANSI S12.10, and reported in conformance with ISO 9296. Operating Environment Air Temperature: 0 -- 8,000 (ft) o Operating: 5(degs) to 35(degs)C or 41(degs) to 95(degs)F (without diskette) o Operating: 10(degs) to 35(degs)C or 50(degs) to 95(degs)F (with diskette inside unit) o System off: 5(degs) to 43(degs)C or 41(degs) to 110(degs)F o Storage/shipment: -20(degs) to 60(degs)C or -4(degs) to 140(degs)F o Wet bulb (maximum): 29.4(degs)C or 85(degs)F Air Temperature: 8,000 -- 10,000 (ft) o Operating: 5(degs) to 31.3(degs)C or 41(degs) to 88(degs)F (without diskette) o Operating: 10(degs) to 31.3(degs)C or 50(degs) to 88(degs)F (with diskette inside unit) o System off: 5(degs) to 43(degs)C or 41(degs) to 110(degs)F o Storage/shipment: -20(degs) to 60(degs)C or -4(degs) to 140(degs)F o Wet bulb (maximum): 25.7(degs)C or 78(degs)F Note: The maximum temperature when the system is on is linearly decreased from 8,000 ft to 10,000 ft. Relative Humidity o Operating: 8% to 95% RH (without diskette) o Operating: 8% to 80% RH (with diskette inside unit) o Storage/shipment: 5% to 95% RH Altitude o 10,000 ft maximum (3,048 m) Agency Approvals o System Unit Approvals: - FCC Class-B Certified to comply with FCC Rules, Part 15 -- ThinkPad 360PE FCC ID: ANO2620CEP - VCCI CLASS 2 (0 db) - CISPR22B - CE MARK - MPR-IIK - UL-1950 - CSA C22.2 No. 950 - NEMKO - SETI - DEMKO - SEMKO - OVE - SASO - NOM o Universal AC/DC Adapter Approvals: - UL-1950 - CSA-C22.2 No. 223 - SEMKO - NEMKO - DEMKO - SETI - OVE - NOM o U.S. Travel (Wall Mount) AC/DC Adapter Approvals: - UL-1950 - CSA-C22.2 No. 223 Software Requirements: The following operating systems support the ThinkPad 360PE: o PenDOS 2.2 o Microsoft Windows for Pen Computing Version 1.0(3) o Pen for OS/2 Version 1.0(4) o PC DOS 6.3 and J6.3/V o PC DOS 7.0 o IBM OS/2 Warp Version 3.0(4) o IBM OS/2 Warp Version J3.0(4) o IBM OS/2 2.1 and 2.11 with APAR fixes PJ09807, PJ09770, PJ08909, PJ10489, PJ08922, PJ09814, PJ09653, PJ10673, PJ09695 and PJ12413(5), (6) o IBM OS/2 2.1 for Windows Version 3.1(4), (6), (7) o MS-DOS 6.2 o Microsoft Windows 3.1/J3.1 o IBM OS/2 LAN Server Entry Version 3.0 o IBM OS/2 LAN Server Advanced Version 3.0 o IBM Extended Services for OS/2(R) o IBM Extended Services(R) with Database Server for OS/2 o IBM Communications Manager/2 Versions 1.0 and 1.1 o IBM Database/2 OS/2 Version 1.0 (3) Interacts with IBM ThinkWrite Handwriting Recognition technology (4) Requires 8MB or more memory (5) APAR PJ12413 is required for OS/2 2.11 (6) Call 800-992-4777 to get these APAR fixes (7) APAR PJ12541 and PJ12460 are required for OS/2 2.1 for Windows Version 3.1 Compatibility and Supported Products Refer to the 2620 Sales Manual pages, or contact your IBM representative, for a complete list of supported features and options and compatible IBM and vendor software. The Sales Manual is updated periodically. The ThinkPad 360PE systems are designed to be compatible with the PS/2(R). The ThinkPad 360PE systems contain BIOS/Easy Setup/Diagnostics in FLASH ROM and also provide a graphical user interface to set up the system and power management features for OS/2 and Windows users. BIOS provides the hardware instructions and interfaces that support the standard features of the ThinkPad 360PE systems and to maintain compatibility with many software programs currently operating under DOS and OS/2 on the Personal Computer XT(TM), Personal Computer AT(R) and the PS/2 family. High-performance BIOS uses 128KB of system memory. Devices Supported: PCMCIA The ThinkPad 360PE DX2-DSTN with Digitizer systems conform to the PCMCIA PC Card Standard Release 2.01 and the PCMCIA Card and Socket Services Specification Release 2.0, dated November 1992. Other PCMCIA adapters that comply with the PCMCIA PC Card Standard Specification Release 2.01 may also function, but have not been tested by IBM. Feature Part Description Number Number IBM 3270 Emulation Credit Card Adapter 2812 0933315 IBM Token-Ring 16/4 Credit Card Adapter II 8072 0933931 IBM Ethernet Credit Card Adapter II for 10BaseT 3290 0934331 IBM Ethernet Credit Card Adapter II for 10Base2 3280 0934330 IBM PCMCIA Data/Fax Modem 3634 73G7098 IBM High Speed PCMCIA Data/Fax Modem 3635 73G7097 IBM 5250 Emulation PCMCIA Adapter 2808 92F3808 Feature Part Description Number Number IBM 40MB PCMCIA Hard Disk Drive 7559 70G8495 IBM 105MB PCMCIA Hard Disk Drive 1901 32G4199 IBM 1MB SRAM PCMCIA Memory Card 92G7229 IBM 2MB SRAM PCMCIA Memory Card 92G7230 IBM 2.4/9.6 Data/Fax Modem 87G9260 IBM 14.4/14.4 Data/Fax Modem 87G9265 IBM RS232 PCMCIA Serial Card 87G9250 IBM Infrared (IR) Wireless Adapter Tethered Transceiver 87G9740 IBM Infrared (IR) Wireless Adapter Integrated Transceiver 87G9743 IBM 5MB ThinkPad File 70G7344 IBM 10MB ThinkPad File 70G7345 IBM 15MB ThinkPad File 70G7346 IBM 5MB PCMCIA Solid State File Card 40G3166 IBM 10MB PCMCIA Solid State File Card 40G3167 IBM 20MB PCMCIA Solid State File Card 40G3168 IBM 30MB PCMCIA Solid State File Card 40G3169 IBM 40MB PCMCIA Solid State File Card 40G3170 IBM PCMCIA 16-bit Audio Adapter* 87G9748 * Refer to the Limitations section Limitations PCMCIA o PC Card point enablers can write directly to the hardware, bypassing defined interface for the Socket and Card Services. These point enablers may interfere with other device drivers that use the defined interface. This can result in problems that are hard to diagnose. Users must ensure that their specific environment is not affected by PC Card point enablers that bypass defined interfaces. o PCMCIA adapter (PC Card) diagnostics program usually does not support slot number greater than two. To diagnose a suspected failing PCMCIA adapter installed in the ThinkPad Port Replicator Model I or IBM ThinkPad Dock II (slot number three or four), for test purposes, install the suspected adapter in a slot number one or two of the system PCMCIA slot and then run the diagnostic program. o "Point Enabler" (one of the device drivers of the PCMCIA adapter) does not support slot number greater than two. The point enabler cannot be used for a PCMCIA adapter (PC Card) installed in the IBM ThinkPad Port Replicator Model I or IBM ThinkPad Dock II (slot number three or four). o High Speed PCMCIA Data/Fax Modem V.32bis achieves transmission of 19.2Kbps with the applications that use BIOS for communication to a serial port. Many applications that bypass the BIOS can approach the theoretical limit of 57.6Kbps. Video o Video capture adapter, which requires VGA pass-through (video pass-through, VESA bus) is not supported by the ThinkPad 360PE when it is used with the IBM ThinkPad Dock I or the IBM ThinkPad Dock II. o The TV Tuner Pack and Analog-to Digital Video Converter Adapter optional features are not supported on the ThinkPad 360PE. o If the audio device driver is disabled, periodic noise will be heard with some applications (such as Storyboard(TM) Live). To avoid the noise, the recommendation is to enable the audio feature (audio feature is enabled by the default setting): - Enable the audio device by PS2.EXE (DOS) or ThinkPad Feature (Windows 3.1, OS/2) - Install the audio feature by following the instructions "Installing the Audio Device Driver" in the User's Guide. o The IBM 8516 touch screen color display requires the TrackPoint(TM) II to be disabled before connecting it to the external display connector. To disable the TrackPoint II, follow the instructions provided in the ThinkPad 360PE DX2-DSTN with Digitizer User's Guide. Passwords o The supervisor password is not supported by ThinkPad 360PE. o The hard disk drive (HDD) password (HDP) is not supported when the HDD is installed in either the IBM ThinkPad Dock I or the IBM ThinkPad Dock II. The HDD password must be removed while the HDD is directly (without a ThinkPad Dock) installed in the computer. After the removal of the HDD password, the drive can be used with the IBM ThinkPad Dock I or the IBM ThinkPad Dock II. The HDD is secured by the security lock and tie-down capability when used with the IBM ThinkPad Dock I or the IBM ThinkPad Dock II. o The password prompt is not displayed when the computer resumes from "partial" suspend mode while it is attached to the IBM ThinkPad Dock I or the IBM ThinkPad Dock II. However, you need to enter a correct password to continue. Battery Pack o When the ThinkPad 750 NiMH battery pack is used, the remaining power (hours and percentage) is displayed. However, when the ThinkPad 360 NiMH battery pack is used, only the remaining power in terms of percentages is displayed. o Battery discharge function of ThinkPad Features is not supported. Considerations when an audio card is installed: o When audio software is used (MIDI player, for example), the CPU speed should be set "fast." o When OS/2 2.11 is installed, audio functions are supported in OS/2 native environment only. Audio support in the WIN-OS/2(TM) sessions of OS/2 is not provided. o When OS/2 Warp is installed, MIDI function is not supported. o When using any audio related AT(R) card (Action Media II, for example), the recommendation is to use an audio device driver that comes with the AT card. o To avoid the noise associated with some applications, it is recommended that you enable the audio feature. Planning Information Cable Orders: All cables are included with the system. Installability: The ThinkPad 360PE DX2-DSTN with Digitizer system requires about 20 minutes for installation. Installation includes unpacking, setting up, and powering on the system. Additional time is required to install other memory, an operating system, and other features. Problem Determination: If a failure is found at initial installation, an instruction or error code will appear on the screen. The user should note this information and refer to the User's Guide shipped with the system unit. System units that fail at installation or during a power up sequence will automatically go to the system diagnostics to isolate the failing field replaceable unit (FRU), or refer the user to the service representative for the ThinkPad 360PE DX2-DSTN with Digitizer. The troubleshooting procedures consist of a power-on self-test, diagnostic tests, and easy-to-follow troubleshooting charts designed to assist the user in isolating a defective machine element. The failing element can then be replaced or repaired under existing warranty provisions. HelpWare Support: IBM HelpWare is a comprehensive set of offerings that provide you with a full range of service and support options in making your computing experience more productive and enjoyable. As part of our commitment to providing you with the support you require, we provide many complimentary HelpWare services during the warranty period of your IBM personal computer. Additional services are available from the HelpWare Support Family. For detailed information on HelpWare, refer to Services Announcement 694-029, dated October 17, 1994, or call the HelpCenter at 800-772-2227. ThinkPad Proven: ThinkPad Proven is an innovative program where IBM is working with a number of industry-leading manufacturers who have tested their products to meet our standards for ThinkPad compatibility and provide warranty and technical support service. The ThinkPad Proven emblem signifies that: o The manufacturer has stated to IBM that it has tested the product to IBM-developed test procedures and assures compliance with ThinkPad compatibility standards. o The product has been approved for use on specific ThinkPad models, which will be listed. o The manufacturer warrants a hardware product for a minimum of three years, a software product for 90 days. Additional information can be found in the ThinkPad Proven brochure. Packaging: ThinkPad 360PE DX2-DSTN with Digitizer model type/model and part numbers: o 2620-B0F 23H2472 -- DSTN, 340MB, DX2/4MB, Audio, Preinstalled Software o 2620-B0G 23H2592 -- DSTN, 540MB, DX2/4MB, Audio, Preinstalled Software ThinkPad 360PE DX2-DSTN Shipment group -- system unit carton contents: o System unit with U.S. English keyboard o 35W Universal AC o Power Cord o Rechargeable battery pack o Untethered stylus Shipment group -- U.S. manual o User's Guide with U.S./Canadian Warranty Statement and FCC Statement o Customer Registration Form o International Hardware Warranty Service o HelpCenter label o Product MAP o Keyboard Template o PCMCIA Card Lock o PCMCIA Slot Cover with Cable Opening o TrackPoint II Cap o Adhesive Tape Eject for Memory Card o PC DOS English Package (no diskette) o PenDOS English Package (with diskette) o MS Windows English Package (no diskette) o MS Windows for Pen Computing English Package Application Envelope Accessories and/or Supplies There are no new accessories. The following accessories were previously announced and can be used with the ThinkPad 360PE DX2-DSTN with Digitizer system. Part Description Number ThinkPad Untethered Stylus 66G3687 ThinkPad 750 FDD External Attachment Kit 66G3618 ThinkPad 750 Battery Pack Safety Cover 66G3686 ThinkPad 750 Key Guard 66G3685 ThinkPad 750 Security Base 66G3684 PS/2 Keyboard/Mouse Connector 54G0441 Security, Auditability, and Control Standard Security Features o Passwords - A Power-on password (POP) protects the system from unauthorized use. If a POP is set, the password prompt appears: -- Each time the system is turned on -- When the system is returned to normal operation from suspend mode by opening the computer notebook or by pressing the Fn key. If the return to normal operation is caused by the timer or an incoming call through modem, the password prompt does not appear. The LCD remains blank until the correct password is entered. - The HDD password is a feature of the systems. It is used to protect HDD data. Once HDP is set, data on the HDD cannot be accessed without the correct HDP. Because the HDP is stored in the HDD, the data remains protected even if the HDD is removed to another system. The HDP password prompt appears: -- Each time the system is turned on -- When the system is returned to normal operation from suspend mode o Security Locking Lever The locking lever can be used to: - Prevent removal of the computer - Prevent the use of the system by securing the keyboard and internal optional features - Secure the HDD The lever cover is used to shield the locking lever in the computer to prevent removal of internal resources (HDD, memory, FDD) You can use the hole in the locking lever to route a cable or chain and lock the system to a table or desk, for example: o You can use the hook on the HDD locking mechanism to leash with a user-selected padlock and chain or cable. Security Optional Features o Security Base: The security base acts as a cradle for the system, which serves as physical security: - Bolts the system to the desk - Keylocks the system in the security base with the HDD - Provides a locking mechanism -- padlock is user's choice - Keylocks the Port Replicator Models I and II in the security base with the PCMCIA cards (Model I) - Protects removal of HDD - Protects access to the screw holes in the system - Protects access to the system expansion and I/O connectors End users are responsible for evaluation, selection and, implementation of security features, administrative procedures, and appropriate controls in application systems and communications facilities. TERMS AND CONDITIONS The 2620 is available for purchase under the terms of the IBM Customer Agreement. IBM Credit Corporation Financing: Term leases and installment payment plans are available for commercial and state and local government customers. Warranty Period o System Hardware (2620): One year. An optional three-year EasyServ warranty is available via special bid. Remarketer inventory is not eligible for three-year warranty. Contact your special bids coordinator for terms and conditions. o System Battery: One year o Media: Three months o IBM Programs: Three months o Non-IBM Programs: Not warranted by IBM; warranty if any, is as provided by the program's supplier. Licensing: IBM programs included with the ThinkPad 360PE are licensed under the terms and conditions of the IBM Program License Agreement and IBM System Programs License Agreement. A copy of these agreements is included in the documentation shipped with the system. Non-IBM Programs are available from IBM as distributed by the program supplier. Terms and conditions of the supplier apply. They are included in their respective program packages in the documentation shipped with the systems and are passed on to the customer. Warranty Service ThinkPad EasyServ: Warranty service for the ThinkPad 360PE will be provided via ThinkPad EasyServ. ThinkPad EasyServ is a courier repair service in which the ThinkPad system will be picked up at the customer's location and delivered to an IBM-designated repair location. The repair location will repair the system and return it to the customer. Charges for the courier service will be paid by IBM. If warranty service is required, the customer should call the IBM HelpCenter at 800-772-2227. The HelpCenter will assist the user with problem isolation for hardware and software. Should a hardware problem be identified, the HelpCenter will arrange for a courier to pick up the system for overnight delivery (where available) to the repair location. Most repairs should be made the same day the system is received at the repair location. Customers should keep the original shipping carton for shipping to the repair location. If the original shipping carton is not available, the courier will deliver a shipping carton and return to pick up the system for delivery to the repair location. International Warranty Service: Customers who travel or need to move products to another country will be able to register the products for IBM International Warranty Service. Upon registering with the International Warranty Service Office (IWSO), IBM will issue an International Warranty Service Certificate that will be honored virtually worldwide, where IBM or IBM resellers sell and service IBM PC products. During the original warranty period, customers will be provided with service through the service delivery methods available for their specific IBM system in the servicing country. For more information on IBM International Warranty Service or to register your IBM PC systems, contact IBM at 800-IWS-7426 (497-7426). Refer to Services Announcement 694-028 dated, October 17, 1994, for additional details. Alternative Service o IBM On-Site Repair (IOR) On-site service will not be offered as a generally available option. Customers who require a more timely repair option can select either the ThinkPad EasyServ Overnight Repair Option or on-site service via a special bid process. Contact your area service marketing specialist for details. o ThinkPad EasyServ Overnight Repair Option Maintenance Service o ThinkPad EasyServ (2620) Maintenance Agreement ThinkPad EasyServ is a courier repair service in which the ThinkPad system will be picked up at the customer's location and delivered to an IBM-designated repair location. The repair location will repair the system and return it to the customer. Charges for the courier service will be paid by IBM. o ThinkPad EasyServ Overnight Repair Option The ThinkPad EasyServ Overnight Repair Option allows customers whose mobile machines are under an IBM EasyServ Warranty or IBM EasyServ Maintenance Agreement to upgrade the service to overnight repair with a per incident charge. Customers should call the IBM HelpCenter at 800-772-2227 for information on using this service. o IBM IOR Via Special Bid Process Only o IBM Per Call Service Note: Non-IBM products installed in a ThinkPad 360PE system either on Warranty or Maintenance Service may be serviced by IBM. Additional service charges may apply. For eligibility and charges, a special bid should be submitted. IBM Hourly Service Rate Classification: One IBM Warranty Service, IBM Maintenance Service, or IBM Hourly Service can be obtained by calling the HelpCenter at 800-772-2227. IBM Hourly Service is available at the applicable rate and terms, including element exchange price if applicable. Product Availability Status: New product available Field Installable Features: Yes Model Conversions: No Customer Setup: Yes Licensed Internal Code: No National Education Price (NEP): A NEP is available. CHARGES Machine Single Part Type/ Unit Description Number Model Price* 360PE (340MB,DSTN,DX2) 2620B0F 2620-B0F $3,699 360PE (540MB,DSTN,DX2) 2620B0G 2620-B0G 4,049 * The single unit price reflects the purchase price for a single unit acquired from IBM, and is subject to change without notice. This price is for information purposes only, and shall not limit in any way the remarketers' ability to set their own prices for IBM products. Annual Minimum Maintenance Charges Machine ThinkPad Type/Model EasyServ 2620-B0F $162 2620-B0G 162 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 26 18:16:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29288; Wed, 26 Apr 95 18:16:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17797; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 17:50:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 17:50:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17762; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 17:50:25 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA19683 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Wed, 26 Apr 1995 17:50:18 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA23002; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 17:50:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 17:50:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Many fixes for Mwave Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Once again from the BBS, hopefully the ftp site will reappear soon. IBM Mwave Feature Service Diskettes Ver 1.10 March 28, 1995 ============================================ Here are the files that relate to this release of MWave code: MWD110-1.EXE MWave version 1.10 for DOS - disk 1 of 2 MWD110-2.EXE MWave version 1.10 for DOS - disk 2 of 2 MWW110-1.EXE MWave version 1.10 for windows - disk 1 of 7 MWW110-2.EXE MWave version 1.10 for windows - disk 2 of 7 MWW110-3.EXE MWave version 1.10 for windows - disk 3 of 7 MWW110-4.EXE MWave version 1.10 for windows - disk 4 of 7 MWW110-5.EXE MWave version 1.10 for windows - disk 5 of 7 MWW110-6.EXE MWave version 1.10 for windows - disk 6 of 7 MWW110-7.EXE MWave version 1.10 for windows - disk 7 of 7 MWO110-1.EXE MWave version 1.10 for OS/2 and Warp - disk 1 of 2 MWO110-2.EXE MWave version 1.10 for OS/2 and Warp - disk 2 of 2 MWOS2AUD.EXE MWave Audio Drivers for OS/2 2.1 and 2.11 (not Warp) (MMPM) MWWRPAUD.EXE MWave Audio Drivers for Warp (no earlier versions ofOS/2) (VSD) TPMWHPFS.EXE Patch to allow MWave 1.10 upgrade on HPFS systems. FWVTB421.EXE FaxWorks Voice! ver. 3.00f.042 disk 1 of 2 FWVTB422.EXE FaxWorks Voice! ver. 3.00f.042 disk 2 of 2 If you have a DOS/windows system and you have the original MWave version 1.00 disks for windows (7 disks) you only need to download the two MWave for DOS disks, the first two MWave for windows disks and the two FaxWorks Voice! disks to upgrade to MWave 1.10 (note that it doesn't matter which version you have installed currently, 1.00 or 1.02). When performing the windows upgrade you will be instructed to insert the third disk for windows - just use disk 3 from the version 1.00 set. You do not have to update the WAV samples since there haven't been any changes since version 1.00. If you have a DOS/windows system and you don't have the original MWave version 1.00 disks but you do have the MWave code installed and running then you will need the two MWave for DOS disks, the first three MWave for windows disks and the two FaxWorks Voice! disks to upgrade to MWave 1.10. Please ensure all DOS upgrades are performed prior to the Windows upgrades in the above situations. If you have OS/2 2.1 or 2.11 you will need the two MWave for OS/2 and Warp disks and the MWave Audio Drivers for OS/2 disk (note that this last disk is the same as the third MWave for OS/2 disk that was in the preloaded diskette factory, so if you already have that disk created you won't need to download this file). You will also need the file TPMWHPFS.EXE file if you have OS/2 installed on an HPFS file system. You will also need various DOS, windows and FaxWorks Voice! disks as outlined above. If you have Warp you will need the two MWave for OS/2 and Warp disks and the MWave Audio Drivers for Warp disk. You will also need the file TPMWHPFS.EXE file if you have Warp installed on an HPFS file system. You will also need various DOS, windows and FaxWorks Voice! disks as outlined above. What These Diskettes Do ----------------------- These Mwave Feature Service diskettes update the Mwave System programs stored on the hard drive of ThinkPad models 755CE/CD/CSE. If you are experiencing any of the problems listed in the following Summary of Problem Fixes section or wish to use any of the new functions listed in the following Summary of New Function Supported section, please follow the instructions given in the Updating Feature Programs section below to update the Mwave feature program of your ThinkPad 755 family computer. Summary of New Function Supported --------------------------------- The following functions that were not part of the Mwave support (version 1.0) as delivered on 755CD, 755CE, and 755CSE ThinkPads are included in this new version. (Some of these functions were previously made available as downloadable files on the PC Company Bulletin Board System (BBS) as well as on other electronic bulletin boards.) Class 2 fax Support OS/2 Warp Support High Quality MIDI Synthesizer Support for OS/2 Warp Release Version --------------- Version 1.10 Function upgrade and corrective service to support the Mwave component of ThinkPad 755CD, 755CE, and 755CSE. This version replaces and supersedes all previous versions of Mwave software for 755CD, 755CE, and 755CSE ThinkPads. Changed/Fixed Item ------------------ Note: n.nn Diskette Version (e.g. 1.10 Version 1.10) (New) New Function or Enhancement Summary of Problem Fixes for ThinkPad 755CD/CE/CSD -------------------------------------------------- NOTE: These feature diskettes include previously available fixes in addition to the 1.10 updates. Reduced the occurrence of "Out of Memory" problems in Windows SYMPTOM: When running certain applications in Windows, an out of memory message appeared. This problem was caused by the amount of memory the various Mwave software components were reserving (locking) and by the way Windows handles that locking function. FIX: Changes were made to reduce the amount of locked memory the Mwave software requires. (This fix was previously available from the PCC BBS as TPW102_1.EXE and TPW102_2.EXE.) AT &W0 &W1 modem command fixed SYMPTOM: Write configuration fails when trying to save both configurations with one AT command. If &W0 & &W1 are used on one AT command line, only the last one actually works. FIX: Updates to code. (This fix was previously available from the PCC BBS as TPW102_1.EXE and TPW102_2.EXE.) Cannot successfully use the Mwave Modem with Remote Access SYMPTOM: When attempting to use the Mwave Modem with Windows for Work Groups' Remote Access System (RAS) the connect result message was not properly recognized. FIX: MODEM.INF was modified. Communication applications unable to find or communicate with Mwave Modem SYMPTOM: Because of the nature of the Mwave Modem, the Windows virtual COM driver didn't find the modem active when starting Windows. FIX: IBMVCD.386 provided a temporary fix for this problem. The Mwave code has been altered and the requirement for IBMVCD.386 no longer exists. Improved speaker phone quality SYMPTOM: Speakerphone volume is too low on certain telephone lines (for example, Japanese lines). When the speaker volume is increased, the microphone gain would decrease. FIX: Microphone gain adjusted to not decrease as speaker volume increases. Some applications (such as FaxWorks) enable the user to adjust the microphone gain manually. Fixed FAX machine incompatibility SYMPTOM: Often seen as a "FAX back" problem, an incompatibility between the Mwave FAX modem and certain FAX machines (or FAX modems) existed. FIX: Mwave code has been updated and known incompatibilities are now resolved. NOTE: There is known problem when Mwave is answering as a FAX modem and the calling FAX machine supports v.33 protocol. If the Mwave modem negotiates at 14,400 bps, it erroneously reports successful negotiation even though it does not support the V.33 protocol. As a work-around for this problem you can set the maximum fax speed to 9600 bps in the fax application, and initiate the fax back service again. The Mwave modem should now negotiate V.29 for 9600 bps and successfully receive the fax. Removed the click sound heard when recording SYMPTOM: When using any application to record WAV files, a clicking sound is audible at the beginning or end of the recording. FIX: The audio driver has been updated. Fixed the incompatibility of DOS communications applications with the Mwave COM setup SYMPTOM: Some DOS communications applications are unable to access the COM ports because of incompatibility with the Mwave COM setup. FIX: COM setup was updated to fix incompatibility. Improved the modem to v.32bis rate renegotiation SYMPTOM: When the quality of a connection on the phoneline decreases (often recognized by the presence of noise), modems renegotiate to lower speeds for data transfer. The Mwave modem renegotiation was taking too long and sometimes causing the connection to be lost. FIX: Mwave modem performance for renegotiation has been improved. Improved modem performance SYMPTOM: Modem data transfer rates were slow when compared to more conventional modems. FIX: Modem performance has been improved, however, with older character mode protocols lower throughput data transfer will be experienced. If one of these protocols, such as XMODEM, must be used, some improvement may be achieved by turning off data compression before establishing the modem connection (by using the AT \N0 "H2 commands). Updating Feature Programs ------------------------- Notes: - You need an AC adapter and a charged battery pack to update the system program. - If your computer is attached to a ThinkPad Dock I or a port replicator, turn off the computer and detach it before proceeding. - If you use native DOS modem/games and Windows, you must install both the DOS v1.10 and Windows v1.10 updates at the same time. 1. Print these instructions or display on another computer. 2. Firmly connect the AC adapter to the computer. 3. Turn on the computer and boot to the operating system where Mwave is installed. a. Mwave for DOS updates: - Insert the Mwave for DOS Diskette 1 into the diskette drive. - Go to the full screen DOS prompt. Do NOT use the DOS box. - Type "A:INSTALL" and press Enter. - Follow the instructions on the installation windows and insert additional diskettes when prompted. - If error messages appear at the end of installation, click OK and complete the installation. (Even though these messages have appeared, the installation should be successful.) - When installation is complete, reboot your ThinkPad. b. Mwave for Windows updates: NOTE: Before you update Mwave for Windows, make sure that you update Mwave for DOS. - From Windows Program Manager menu bar, select File and then select Run. - Insert the Mwave for Windows Diskette 1 into the diskette drive. - In the Command line entry box, type "A:SETUP" and press Enter. - Follow the instructions on the installation windows and insert additional diskettes when prompted. - If error messages appear at the end of installation, click OK and complete the installation. (Even though these messages have appeared, the installation should be successful.) - When installation is complete, close Windows and reboot your ThinkPad. c. Mwave for OS/2 2.11 and OS/2 Warp updates: NOTES: i. To install Mwave for OS/2 Warp, - Windows 3.1 must be installed in a directory named "Windows" or "Win31". This directory must be accessible to the OS/2 Warp operating system. - Mwave for DOS and Mwave for Windows must be installed. ii. When installing OS/2 support for OS/2 Warp, use the diskette labelled "OS/2 Audio P/N 30H2049, Disk 1 of 1". iii.When installing OS/2 support for OS/2 2.11, use the diskette labelled "OS/2 Audio P/N 83G9146, Disk 1 of 1". iv. If you have already installed Options Diskette (version 1.03) upgrade AND you then install the 1.10 upgrade, do the following: a. Restart the system and boot OS/2 2.11. b. Open the Mwave Discriminator, select the Options pull-down, and click on Settings. c. On the Discriminator Settings window, select the first parameter and click on the icon until the parameter is set to Modem on Silence. d. Select the OK push button. Resetting this parameter enables the modem to work correctly. - Insert the Mwave for OS/2 Diskette 1 into the diskette drive. - Go to an OS/2 window. - Type "A:SETUP" and press Enter. - Follow the instructions on the installation windows and insert additional diskettes when prompted. - After Mwave diskette 2 has completed, shutdown OS/2 and reboot your ThinkPad. - Insert the Mwave for OS/2 Audio Diskette 1 of 1 into the diskette drive. - In an OS/2 window, type "A:SETUP" and press Enter. - When installation is complete, shutdown OS/2 and reboot your ThinkPad again. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 26 23:45:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16183; Wed, 26 Apr 95 23:45:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13415; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 23:28:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 23:28:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13404; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 23:28:38 -0400 Received: by FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA00786; Wed, 26 Apr 95 23:29:27 EDT Date: Wed, 26 Apr 95 23:29:27 EDT From: fox@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU (David Fox) Message-Id: <9504270329.AA00786@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Sound under Linux? Does anyone know if the thinkpad sound hardware can be accessed from Linux? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Apr 26 23:47:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16910; Wed, 26 Apr 95 23:47:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13962; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 23:35:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 23:35:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13939; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 23:35:37 -0400 Received: by FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA00790; Wed, 26 Apr 95 23:36:24 EDT Date: Wed, 26 Apr 95 23:36:24 EDT From: fox@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU (David Fox) Message-Id: <9504270336.AA00790@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Sound under Linux? > Does anyone know if the thinkpad sound hardware can be > accessed from Linux? I should be more specific - I mean the Thinkpad 755CE. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 27 00:18:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24401; Thu, 27 Apr 95 00:18:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16463; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 00:06:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 00:06:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from baijuyi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16453; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 00:06:48 -0400 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by baijuyi (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id MAA35805 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 12:04:12 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199504270404.MAA35805@baijuyi> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 12:04:12 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text Hi, Just another linux question: Is, XF86-3.1.1-SVGA.tar.gz Server for Super VGA-based boards. Or, XF86-3.1.1-VGA16.tar.gz Server for VGA/EGA-based boards. installable on a TP360(mono) with a normal SVGA external monitor? Ta. ____________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 27 00:21:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24441; Thu, 27 Apr 95 00:21:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16991; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 00:11:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 00:11:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from thumper.pomona.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16981; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 00:11:35 -0400 Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #9731) id <01HPT4L0BN5C8WXOGL@POMONA.EDU>; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 21:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 21:10:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Chan Subject: Linux To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <01HPT4OJ7ZMG8WXOGL@POMONA.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I know this is probably a very dumb question but what exactly is Linux? I've been hearing people on this list talk about it for months now but I have no idea what it is. Thank you for listening to what must be a very basic question. paul From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 27 13:59:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24885; Thu, 27 Apr 95 13:59:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19061; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 13:42:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 13:42:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA19050; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 13:42:06 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id NAA25174 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 13:45:58 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 13:45:58 -0400 From: Don Whiteside Message-Id: <199504271745.NAA25174@shadow.net> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: (fwd) Re: ThinkPad "Cat Tongue" Caps Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops Potentially very interesting..... Path: anshar.shadow.net!uunet!news.nyc.pipeline.com!news.cs.columbia.edu!news.columbia.edu!inibara.cc.columbia.edu!yn25 From: yn25@inibara.cc.columbia.edu (Yann Nicolas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops Subject: Re: ThinkPad "Cat Tongue" Caps Date: 25 Apr 1995 12:54:39 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 13 Message-ID: <3niref$lbv@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <3nerrl$61n@clam.rutgers.edu> <3ng7uk$7tt@anshar.shadow.net> <3nhkkp$ft3@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: inibara.cc.columbia.edu >>> My sources tell me that the part no. is >>> 84G6536 - $15.50 per package >>> To order: 1-800-388-7087--they take credit cards. Expect a 15-30 day >>> backorder. >>> --andy I dunno... I ordered mine from the IBM Replacement Part number (800-388-7080) and got 4 caps for $3.55... That was about 6 weeks ago... (~~~) *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* ( Yann Nicolas ) =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= (~~~) |\| Columbia U. Libraries -- ALLEZ RENNES!! -- nicolas@columbia.edu |/| |\| ________________/ SiXXX in '96!! \____________ Go 49ers! |/| (___) *=*=*=' http://www.cc.columbia.edu/~yn25/soccer.html `=*=*=*=* (___) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 27 21:16:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08414; Thu, 27 Apr 95 21:16:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22054; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 21:04:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 21:04:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dogmead.excelsior.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22038; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 21:04:14 -0400 Received: (from tim@localhost) by dogmead.excelsior.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA26606; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 21:03:29 -0400 From: Tim Tyhurst Message-Id: <199504280103.VAA26606@dogmead.excelsior.com> Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: ThinkPad "Cat Tongue" Caps To: dwhite@shadow.net (Don Whiteside) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 21:03:28 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199504271745.NAA25174@shadow.net> from "Don Whiteside" at Apr 27, 95 01:45:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >>> My sources tell me that the part no. is > >>> 84G6536 - $15.50 per package > >>> To order: 1-800-388-7087--they take credit cards. Expect a 15-30 day > >>> backorder. > >>> --andy > > I dunno... I ordered mine from the IBM Replacement Part number > (800-388-7080) and got 4 caps for $3.55... That was about 6 weeks ago... I just ordered this part set from IBM Canada on Monday, and the four caps (two cat's tongue, two normal) only cost $CDN 4.75 before taxes. Shipping was free. -- Tim Tyhurst tim@excelsior.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Apr 27 21:55:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09761; Thu, 27 Apr 95 21:55:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25028; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 21:44:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 21:43:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from luyou by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25018; Thu, 27 Apr 1995 21:43:56 -0400 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by luyou (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id JAA16789 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 09:38:16 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199504280138.JAA16789@luyou> Subject: TP360 mono screen info.. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 09:38:16 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text hi, currently setting up XFree86 3.1.1 It needs info about the "monitor" like the horiz and verti scan rates and bandwidth. Can anyone with a technical manual supply me with this valuable info. Lots of thanks! Any other related info appreciated, cheers. ____________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 28 03:01:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16963; Fri, 28 Apr 95 03:01:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13673; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 02:42:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 02:42:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from luyou by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13661; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 02:42:46 -0400 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by luyou (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id OAA15362 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 14:36:50 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199504280636.OAA15362@luyou> Subject: XFree86 3.1.1 on the TP360 mono.. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 14:36:50 +0800 (WAUST) Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text Finally got XFree86 3.1.1 to run on a TP360 mono screen using the svga X server! The manual did say that the mono screen could take 640x480 max with VGA16 and 1024x768 max with svga, but thanks to a posting a while back from Arne Helme, Subject: TP360CE: NetBSD-1.0 and XFree86-3.1 files Date: Thu, 26 Jan 95 11:45:58 +0100 tweaked the settings a little and got SVGA to run on the mono! Hope nothing goes wrong after a few days of running linux+X (; I'd still like any info on the mono screen (request posted earlier) ps. Personally this is better/faster than developing with gcc on OS/2 Warp! ____________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Apr 28 14:30:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20530; Fri, 28 Apr 95 14:30:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15867; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 14:11:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 14:11:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA15855; Fri, 28 Apr 1995 14:11:28 -0400 From: Received: from MILANESE.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA25923; Fri, 28 Apr 95 14:11:18 EDT Received: by milanese.MIT.EDU (5.57/4.7) id AA06746; Fri, 28 Apr 95 14:11:06 -0400 Message-Id: <9504281811.AA06746@milanese.MIT.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Sound Chip Info. - Linux ? Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 14:11:02 EDT Does anyone know where to get programming info for the sound board in the 755 so I can get it working under Linux? Thanks Bill Daughton -------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 29 13:40:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26675; Sat, 29 Apr 95 13:40:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28533; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 13:23:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 13:23:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA28523; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 13:23:22 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.44] (mac44.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA05465; Sat, 29 Apr 95 13:23:11 EDT Message-Id: <9504291723.AA05465@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 13:31:46 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: OS2, 3c589 boot problem fixed Problem: 3com 3c589 PCMCIA card needs to be inserted for WARP to boot properly with TCPIP for OS2 2.0 installed. Solution: There is an update for the ELPC3.OS2 file (\ibmcom\macs directory of my system) which solves this, leaving NO remaining problems that I can find! 3cheers for 3com! I even got an email notifying me of the fix. The file is not on the 3com ftp site, but can be found in the patches and fixes directory of the 3com bulletin board. The file is 3C589N.EXE. From the look of it, this is a compressed 4.1 drivers disk with this one file fixed. Minor Tirade: One would think that a company which specializes in ethernet cards would update their ftp site before their phone BBS. Downloading over a phone line is painful and expensive! ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Apr 29 17:11:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29142; Sat, 29 Apr 95 17:11:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08803; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 16:57:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 16:57:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from handel.cs.colostate.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA08791; Sat, 29 Apr 1995 16:57:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199504292057.QAA08791@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: by handel.cs.colostate.edu (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28972; Sat, 29 Apr 95 14:57:36 -0600 From: joseph foss Subject: ftp.pcco.ibm.com LIVES To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Sat, 29 Apr 95 14:57:36 MDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] I tried ftp.pcco.ibm.com and it looks like the /pub directory has been restored. I hope all the mail I sent to the ftp admin at Advantis worked in some small way. Joe Foss fossj@cs.colostate.edu on a 1 man crusade against pre-installed software w/o a way to get real disks. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Apr 30 15:19:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24493; Sun, 30 Apr 95 15:19:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23867; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 15:05:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 15:05:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA23823; Sun, 30 Apr 1995 15:05:42 -0400 Received: from huxley.anu.edu.au (ask611@huxley.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.12]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id EAA06921; Mon, 1 May 1995 04:59:42 +1000 From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by huxley.anu.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.10) id FAA29316; Mon, 1 May 1995 05:05:34 +1000 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 05:05:34 +1000 Message-Id: <199504301905.FAA29316@huxley.anu.edu.au> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: preinstalled software (stuff on another topic deleted) > >Joe Foss >fossj@cs.colostate.edu >on a 1 man crusade against pre-installed software w/o a way to get real disks. > what's worse is not having an easy way to uninstall the preinstalled "demos". i didn't mind getting the preinstalled software, and some of it i could get interested in. but i do mind having to pay money to get an uninstaller to get rid of all the bits and pieces of packages i did not ask for. i would think having to do that will antagonize many of the potential users these companies are trying to reach. so, if ibm is going to load these unrequested packages/demos for whatever reason - if they can make extra money out of it fine - each such package should have at minimum an uninstall (completely) option. it would probably be advantageous also to have - a) a way to make disks of the s/w for backup; and, b) an uninstall to disk (for later reinstallation if desired). regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 1 02:13:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21173; Mon, 1 May 95 02:13:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01427; Mon, 1 May 1995 01:54:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 1 May 1995 01:54:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from panix3.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA01417; Mon, 1 May 1995 01:54:50 -0400 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix3.panix.com (8.6.12/8.6.10+PanixU1.0) id BAA05033; Mon, 1 May 1995 01:54:27 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 01:54:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael MacDonald To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: DIMMs and DIMM adapters (755cd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is a DIMM adapter necessary to install DIMMs in a 755cd? I ordered 16MB of DIMMs today from a company called Frist Source in California. They insisted that I did not need a DIMM adapter, unless I planned to install more than 24MB of RAM. Is this true? Something tells me they're wrong. Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 1 02:49:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27894; Mon, 1 May 95 02:49:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03964; Mon, 1 May 1995 02:36:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 1 May 1995 02:36:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from panix3.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03950; Mon, 1 May 1995 02:36:43 -0400 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix3.panix.com (8.6.12/8.6.10+PanixU1.0) id CAA05741; Mon, 1 May 1995 02:36:26 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 02:36:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael MacDonald To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Should I install MWave v1.10? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I noticed that there a number of new MWave files available from the IBM archive. Is it worth it for me to download and install all of these files? Has anybody installed them yet? Thanks! Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 1 08:15:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24405; Mon, 1 May 95 08:15:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29800; Mon, 1 May 1995 08:01:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 1 May 1995 08:01:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA29789; Mon, 1 May 1995 08:01:17 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA14745; Mon, 1 May 95 08:02:01 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 May 95 08:02:01 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505011202.AA14745@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: macd@panix.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: DIMMs and DIMM adapters (755cd) can someone confirm that 32 meg DIMMs are available (allowing 72meg total memory) on a 755. Sources? Prices? Are the DIMMs on the 701 the same as the 755, and does that mean (if the answer is yes to 32meg DIMMS) that you can in fact go to 40 meg on a 701? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 1 08:48:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27874; Mon, 1 May 95 08:48:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01954; Mon, 1 May 1995 08:35:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 1 May 1995 08:34:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01943; Mon, 1 May 1995 08:34:56 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144031>; Mon, 1 May 1995 08:34:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: Michael MacDonald's message as of May 1, 2:59am X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: Michael MacDonald , Thinkpad mailing list Subject: Re: Should I install MWave v1.10? (and OS/2) Message-Id: <95May1.083436edt.144031@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 08:34:32 -0400 I installed the two DOS disks, three Windows disk, FaxWorks! and the OS/2 disks. I didn't really notice a difference, though I *think* modem file transfer is now faster. All the problems I have had with MWAVE on OS/2 continue, however. Some day, I might reinstall Warp for the third time, but my conclusion is that the OS/2 people simply haven't taken sufficient care to integrate their product with laptops. IBM has announced that OS/2 will be preloaded on many laptops. This will be a real hoot for their help line. I got Linux running on my 755CE in much less time than OS/2, but then I'm a UNIX person. I was crossmounting file systems between my laptop and my server within a day. And like OS/2 Linux doesn't (appear to) support MWAVE or 16-bit pixels either! But it's remarkably responsive. Eugene. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 1 10:54:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00343; Mon, 1 May 95 10:54:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12259; Mon, 1 May 1995 10:40:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 1 May 1995 10:40:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA12242; Mon, 1 May 1995 10:40:19 -0400 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 2093; Mon, 01 May 95 10:40:19 EDT Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 5212; Mon, 1 May 1995 10:40:18 EDT Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Mon, 01 May 95 10:40:17 EDT Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA27482; Mon, 1 May 1995 10:40:15 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 10:40:15 -0400 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9505011440.AA27482@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Robert Dewar's message of Mon, 1 May 95 08:02:01 -0400 <9505011202.AA14745@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> Subject: DIMMs and DIMM adapters (755cd) >Are the DIMMs on the 701 the same as the 755, and does that mean (if the >answer is yes to 32meg DIMMS) that you can in fact go to 40 meg on a 701? hi, the DIMM on the 701 is NOT the same as the one for the 755. --andy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 1 13:02:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16784; Mon, 1 May 95 13:02:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24336; Mon, 1 May 1995 12:51:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 1 May 1995 12:51:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from noc4.dccs.upenn.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA24312; Mon, 1 May 1995 12:51:17 -0400 Received: from DOLPHIN.UPENN.EDU by noc4.dccs.upenn.edu id AA12315; Mon, 1 May 95 12:51:16 -0400 Received: by dolphin.upenn.edu id MAA20517; Mon, 1 May 1995 12:51:07 -0400 From: mtran@dolphin.upenn.edu (Mark Tran) Posted-Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 12:51:07 -0400 Message-Id: <199505011651.MAA20517@dolphin.upenn.edu> Subject: dimms and dimm adapter To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 12:51:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23-upenn2.9] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i'm not sure whether is this applies to the 755cd (but i don't see why it shouldn't since the maximum mb of ram on this machine is the same as the 755cs), but on the 755cs, you do not need a dimm adapter if you just want to install another 16mb dimm. however, when you want to install two 16mb dimms, that's when you'll need the adapter. mark From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 1 19:33:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24401; Mon, 1 May 95 19:33:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08588; Mon, 1 May 1995 19:12:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 1 May 1995 19:12:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08578; Mon, 1 May 1995 19:12:44 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id PAA15693; Mon, 1 May 1995 15:28:03 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id PAA07617; Mon, 1 May 1995 15:27:59 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199505012227.PAA07617@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: DIMMs and DIMM adapters (755cd) To: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 15:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9505011440.AA27482@jimi.watson.ibm.com> from "Andrew Stevens" at May 1, 95 10:40:15 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > >Are the DIMMs on the 701 the same as the 755, and does that mean (if the > >answer is yes to 32meg DIMMS) that you can in fact go to 40 meg on a 701? > > hi, the DIMM on the 701 is NOT the same as the one for the 755. The 701 uses a different memory card? Damn...I was hoping to switch over maybe--this would make it a lot more complicated to do so (and more costly!). > > --andy > ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 2 00:43:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12371; Tue, 2 May 95 00:43:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27135; Tue, 2 May 1995 00:27:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 2 May 1995 00:27:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from luyou by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA27125; Tue, 2 May 1995 00:26:59 -0400 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by luyou (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id MAA15280; Tue, 2 May 1995 12:21:01 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199505020421.MAA15280@luyou> Subject: Re: "Cat's Tongue" TrackPoint Caps To: whui@indiana.edu (weng) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 12:21:01 +0800 (WAUST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: from "weng" at May 1, 95 10:28:20 am Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text ``..weng writes, ` Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 10:28:20 -0500 (EST) ` From: weng ` > Going thru' my TP archives, I found this dated last year. Hope this helps. ` > Finally I'll be able to get them from IBM S'pore! cheers. NOT!! ` Could you tell me how much it cost you to get the new caps from IBM S'pore ? S$58/- !!!!! Ha ha ha... "May I know how many items are packaged with this part?" I asked. "Sorry..", she quirked. "It is S$58/- for...", waiting for her reply, "..each I think." she said! EACH! ps. you'd figured out I wasn't "robbed" by IBM Direct, S'pore. Assuming it was 4 per package, 4 * $TP caps > $external PS/2 mouse 308 * $TP caps ~= $my current machine + add_ons Oh yes, 1 * PS/2 Y-splitter = S$80/- ((; ____________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 2 00:58:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21463; Tue, 2 May 95 00:58:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28173; Tue, 2 May 1995 00:49:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 2 May 1995 00:49:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from teal.csn.org by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA28161; Tue, 2 May 1995 00:49:33 -0400 Received: by teal.csn.org id AA06133 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Mon, 1 May 1995 22:49:26 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 22:49:26 -0600 From: "Vincent B. Wayland" Message-Id: <199505020449.AA06133@teal.csn.org> To: ibm-tp500@virginia.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Processor Magazine I have been getting a great magazine lately, "Processor." Call 1-800-334-7443, Dept Q1, Fax request to 1-402-477-9252. It has ads from some places that I have never seen before for various mfr's 2.5" drives, close outs on TPs new and refurb, laptop repair, and even replacement screens and motherboards. Delaware Computer Center, Inc. is still advertising TP500s for $999, (302) 633-1500 Gibraltar Computer, Conyers, GA, 1-800-486-3480, Fax: (404) 929-3671, is advertising TP701s and TP7XX with prices. I don't have a magic decoder to translate the IBM nomenclature; 2630 UT2 $4592 2630 UT5 4928 2630 2TU 5071 2630 5TU 5406 GE Capital Computer RentaL Service is selling used TP500s for $2173. :) Universal Sales Agency, Inc is advertising TP drives with cases 540MB $ 499, 810MB $899 (516) 932-1400, Fax (516) 932 1449, They also claim to sell TPs and TP parts. System Design Advantage, Inc., Bloomington, MN (612) 947-6200 Fax: (612) 943-2243, Repairs TP750C displays for $350 is selling new 9545 308s (??) for $2890, also system boards for $1095. This is just a sample. I have no idea if these prices are any good or not, or if these outfits have the stuff in stock, but its the most entertainment since Hemming's Motor News. YMMV, Vince From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 2 01:45:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27387; Tue, 2 May 95 01:45:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00226; Tue, 2 May 1995 01:35:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 2 May 1995 01:35:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA00215; Tue, 2 May 1995 01:35:42 -0400 Received: from scunix4.harvard.edu by husc.harvard.edu with SMTP; Tue, 2 May 1995 01:35:39 -0400 Message-Id: <199505020535.BAA20510@husc.harvard.edu> Received: from husc7.harvard.edu by scunix4.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA15674; Tue, 2 May 1995 01:45:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 01:45:52 -0400 X-Sender: chan4@scunix3.harvard.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: chan4@husc.harvard.edu (Derek V. Chan) Subject: Re: Processor Magazine X-Mailer: > > >I have been getting a great magazine lately, "Processor." >Call 1-800-334-7443, Dept Q1, Fax request to 1-402-477-9252. > >It has ads from some places that I have never seen before for >various mfr's 2.5" drives, close outs on TPs new and refurb, >laptop repair, and even replacement screens and motherboards. > >Delaware Computer Center, Inc. is still advertising TP500s for $999, >(302) 633-1500 > >Gibraltar Computer, Conyers, GA, 1-800-486-3480, Fax: (404) 929-3671, >is advertising TP701s and TP7XX with prices. I don't have a magic decoder >to translate the IBM nomenclature; >2630 UT2 $4592 >2630 UT5 4928 >2630 2TU 5071 >2630 5TU 5406 > >GE Capital Computer RentaL Service is selling used TP500s for $2173. :) > >Universal Sales Agency, Inc is advertising TP drives with cases >540MB $ 499, 810MB $899 (516) 932-1400, Fax (516) 932 1449, They >also claim to sell TPs and TP parts. > >System Design Advantage, Inc., Bloomington, MN (612) 947-6200 >Fax: (612) 943-2243, Repairs TP750C displays for $350 >is selling new 9545 308s (??) for $2890, also system boards >for $1095. > Hmmm...wonder if the system boards mean that we who have 750c computers can upgrade to the new pentiums :) >This is just a sample. I have no idea if these prices are any good >or not, or if these outfits have the stuff in stock, but its the >most entertainment since Hemming's Motor News. > >YMMV, >Vince > > > -- Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com chan4@fas.harvard.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 2 07:51:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14516; Tue, 2 May 95 07:51:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA28077; Tue, 2 May 1995 07:39:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 2 May 1995 07:39:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA28066; Tue, 2 May 1995 07:39:28 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA20198; Tue, 2 May 95 07:40:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 May 95 07:40:16 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505021140.AA20198@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: chan4@husc.harvard.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Processor Magazine asking again -- anyone know anything about the Pentium upgrades, I desperately need a Pentium notebook with an external cache. I am tempted to go for the Midwest Micro 90MHz machine, but will wait a little longer for IBM to get its act together (why are they so late?) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 2 10:57:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06586; Tue, 2 May 95 10:57:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10729; Tue, 2 May 1995 10:43:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 2 May 1995 10:43:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10717; Tue, 2 May 1995 10:43:21 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA08354 for ; Tue, 2 May 1995 09:43:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 09:43:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199505021443.JAA08354@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: thinkpad and NT Hi gurus, Anyone know anything about running Windows NT on a Thinkpad ??? (specifically, a thinkpad 755CE) Now that the latest release of Windows NT supports PCMCIA, I was thinking about giving it a try. I am sick to death of resource/memory/crash problems with Windows 3.1. My big concern is drivers, specifically MWAVE drivers for NT for audio, MIDI, and/or telephony support. Do they exist? anywhere? can I use the windows 3.1 drivers for this under Windows NT (i doubt it) ? how about power management support, things like suspend/hibernate, etc ? any insight from anyone would be great, thanks, Todd p.s. yes, i know i can get the drivers and good protection from OS/2, but for many reasons NT would probably be better for me if I do not have to sacrafice audio support --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 2 11:51:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08697; Tue, 2 May 95 11:51:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15267; Tue, 2 May 1995 11:35:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 2 May 1995 11:35:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA15244; Tue, 2 May 1995 11:35:41 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA15389 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Tue, 2 May 1995 11:35:31 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA43516; Tue, 2 May 1995 11:35:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 11:35:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: Robert Dewar Cc: chan4@husc.harvard.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Processor Magazine In-Reply-To: <9505021140.AA20198@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 2 May 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: > asking again -- anyone know anything about the Pentium upgrades, I > desperately need a Pentium notebook with an external cache. I am tempted > to go for the Midwest Micro 90MHz machine, but will wait a little longer > for IBM to get its act together (why are they so late?) > > Here's the only public announcement so far by IBM on Pentium upgrades for thinkpads. This upgrade is only for the 755CE,CD, & CSE. If they have one in the works for the lower models they haven't mentioned it yet. IBM ThinkPad 701C and 701CS, Related Features, and ThinkPad Pentium Upgrade Option Announced on March 7, 1995 Hardware Announcement 195063 +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | IN BRIEF . . . | | | | o Pentium Upgrade optional features for the ThinkPad 755CE, | | CSE, and CD | | | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ ThinkPad Pentium** Upgrade optional features for the ThinkPad 755CE, CSE, and CD are also available. The features allow current users of these systems to upgrade the processor from the IntelDX4** 100MHz to the Intel Pentium processor for increased performance. ThinkPad Pentium Upgrade Kit for 755CS/CSE and 755CD April 26, 1995 Intel Pentium Processor with L2 Cache Upgrade Option This option requires installation by an IBM-trained servicer. The upgrade option can be installed on ThinkPad 755CE, CSE, and CD. The ThinkPad Pentium Upgrade option contains the following items: o Installation instructions o User's reference and warranty pages o System program service diskette o Utility Diskette Version 1.10 o Pentium processor card assembly o Miscellaneous components Pentium Upgrade Option for ThinkPad 755CE, CSE, and CD: Installation of the Pentium Upgrade option in the ThinkPad 755CE, CSE, and CD disables the parity check function of the system. Planning Information The ThinkPad Pentium Upgrade Kit (755CS/CSE/CD) is not customer installable. The following new optional features for the 755CE, CSE, and CD can only be installed by IBM-trained service personnel. Feature Part Description Number Number ThinkPad Pentium Upgrade Kit (755CE/CSE)(2) 4416 85G8609 ThinkPad Pentium Upgrade Kit (755CD)(2) 4440 29H8755 Feature Part Description Number Number ThinkPad Pentium Upgrade (755CE/CSE)(3) None 2420671 ThinkPad Pentium Upgrade (755CD)(3) None 2420672 National Education Price (NEP): A NEP is available CHARGES Pentium Upgrade Option for 755CE/CSE/CD Single Feature Part Unit Description Number Number Price* Pentium Upgrade Kit 755CE/CSE(2) 4416 85G8609 N/A Pentium Upgrade Kit 755CD(2) 4440 29H8755 N/A Pentium Upgrade Kit 755CE/CSE(3) None 2420671 $1,149 Pentium Upgrade Kit 755CD(3) None 2420672 1,149 (2) Installation charges may apply (3) ThinkPad EasyServ only -- installation included. Available through direct response marketing only; call 800-IBM-2YOU (426-2968) to order. * The single unit price reflects the purchase price for a single unit acquired from IBM, and is subject to change without notice. This price is for information purposes only, and shall not limit, in any way, the remarketers' ability to set prices for IBM products. (4) Not applicable; this product will be priced at its availability in second quarter 1995. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 2 13:07:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11815; Tue, 2 May 95 13:07:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22186; Tue, 2 May 1995 12:54:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 2 May 1995 12:54:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22171; Tue, 2 May 1995 12:54:02 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0s6LDW-0004tqC; Tue, 2 May 95 11:54 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0s6LDU-0002nbC; Tue, 2 May 95 11:54 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0s6LDT-0002wvC; Tue, 2 May 95 11:54 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Processor Magazine To: hosseino@yu1.yu.edu (Joshua Hosseinoff) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 11:54:30 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: from "Joshua Hosseinoff" at May 2, 95 11:35:12 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Here's the only public announcement so far by IBM on Pentium upgrades for > thinkpads. This upgrade is only for the 755CE,CD, & CSE. If they have > one in the works for the lower models they haven't mentioned it yet. Don't hold your breath.... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 2 15:43:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20565; Tue, 2 May 95 15:43:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03514; Tue, 2 May 1995 15:27:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 2 May 1995 15:27:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA03504; Tue, 2 May 1995 15:27:33 -0400 Received: from p72.slip.net (sfsp100.slip.net [204.160.88.154]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA20187; Tue, 2 May 1995 12:27:11 -0700 Message-Id: <199505021927.MAA20187@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 02 May 1995 12:27:23 -0700 To: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum), TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: thinkpad and NT At 09:43 AM 5/2/95 -0500, Todd Tannenbaum wrote: >My big concern is drivers, specifically MWAVE drivers for NT for audio, >MIDI, and/or telephony support. Do they exist? anywhere? can I use the >windows 3.1 drivers for this under Windows NT (i doubt it) ? how about >power management support, things like suspend/hibernate, etc ? I know NT is more stable, but win95 is a good second choice. It can use win3.1 drivers (I'm using the normal tp util disks for audio and video). I've been using it on my tp755cs since last october, and I'm pretty happy with it. ________________________________________________________________________ After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you.____jesse@spine.com____http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 2 22:06:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18198; Tue, 2 May 95 22:06:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00972; Tue, 2 May 1995 21:51:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 2 May 1995 21:51:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from inforamp.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA00962; Tue, 2 May 1995 21:51:25 -0400 Received: from ts10-14.inforamp.net by inforamp.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA16425; Tue, 2 May 1995 21:50:15 +0500 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 21:50:13 +0500 Message-Id: <9505030150.AA16425@inforamp.net> X-Sender: plexxus@inforamp.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: plexxus@inforamp.net (John Allman) Subject: Re: DIMMs and DIMM adapters (755cd) >To: Michael MacDonald >From: plexxus@inforamp.net (John Allman) >Subject: Re: DIMMs and DIMM adapters (755cd) > >>Is a DIMM adapter necessary to install DIMMs in a 755cd? I ordered 16MB >>of DIMMs today from a company called Frist Source in California. They >>insisted that I did not need a DIMM adapter, unless I planned to install >>more than 24MB of RAM. Is this true? Something tells me they're wrong. >> >>Michael MacDonald >>macd@panix.com >>mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu >> >> >Hi Gang: > >According to my IBM information (the IBM Configurator, supplied to dealers), there is a 16MB IC DRAM module (IBM # 66G5109)and also a 16MB DIMM module (84G2153). To install one or two DIMM modules also requires the DIMM memory adapter (84G2151). A maximum of 40 MB may be installed. It would appear that if you want to add more than 16 MB RAM, then the DIMM memory adapter is required, although my information is not clear as to whether IC and DIMM modules can co-exist in the same machine. > >The memory for the TP701 is 92G7263 and is labelled as "SO DIMM 3.3V non-parity 70ns". > >Hope this helps. > > >John > John Allman Plexxus Technologies Inc. Markham (Toronto), Ontario From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 2 22:52:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20531; Tue, 2 May 95 22:52:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04218; Tue, 2 May 1995 22:41:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 2 May 1995 22:41:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA04207; Tue, 2 May 1995 22:41:46 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA01889; Tue, 2 May 95 22:42:31 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 May 95 22:42:31 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505030242.AA01889@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: plexxus@inforamp.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: DIMMs and DIMM adapters (755cd) ">According to my IBM information (the IBM Configurator, supplied to dealers), there is a 16MB IC DRAM module (IBM # 66G5109)and also a 16MB DIMM module (84G2153). To install one or two DIMM modules also requires the DIMM memory adapter (84G2151). A maximum of 40 MB may be installed. It would appear that if you want to add more than 16 MB RAM, then the DIMM memory adapter is required, although my information is not clear as to whether IC and DIMM modules can co-exist in the same machine." That may be true if you stick with IBM memory, but you can certainly get a 32 meg DRAM card (I have one in my 755C, which I have had since just after they appeared), and it works fine. So that's the best way to go if you want 40 megs total. Now I believe, but have not been able to confirm, that there are 32 meg DIMM modules, allowing a max memory of 72 megs. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 3 00:17:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27096; Wed, 3 May 95 00:17:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09268; Wed, 3 May 1995 00:01:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 3 May 1995 00:01:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA09258; Wed, 3 May 1995 00:01:40 -0400 Received: from scunix4.harvard.edu by husc.harvard.edu with SMTP; Wed, 3 May 1995 00:01:34 -0400 Message-Id: <199505030401.AAA17783@husc.harvard.edu> Received: from fas.harvard.edu by scunix4.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA28788; Wed, 3 May 1995 00:11:46 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 00:11:46 -0400 X-Sender: chan4@scunix3.harvard.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: chan4@husc.harvard.edu (Derek V. Chan) Subject: [OFF SUBJECT] Anyone suggest a good mail program for OS/2? X-Mailer: Thanks. Just asking here since I know so many people here use OS/2 w/ their thinkpads. I'd like something that is just as good as eudora in features but doesn't need windoze. I've looked at PMMail, but it doesn't have as many features as I'd like. -- Derek -- Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com chan4@fas.harvard.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 3 09:13:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23085; Wed, 3 May 95 09:13:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15920; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:05:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:05:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esb735.tuwien.ac.at by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15903; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:05:31 -0400 Received: from esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at by esb735.tuwien.ac.at with SMTP (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA14891; Wed, 3 May 1995 14:09:17 +0200 Received: by esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.6)/1.0um) id AA0042; Wed, 03 May 95 14:08:50 -0700 Message-Id: <9505032108.AA0042@esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 03 May 95 14:07:54 +0000 From: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Reply-To: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at Subject: TP 755C sound X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Id: <31_70_1_799524475> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: Is there a possiblity to install midi support for WARP 3.0 and Tinkpad 755??? alex Alexander Wirth, Inst. f. Schaltgeraete und Hochspannungstechnik TU Wien, Gusshausstr. 25-29/374, 1040 Wien From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 3 09:20:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23529; Wed, 3 May 95 09:20:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15816; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:05:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:04:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esb735.tuwien.ac.at by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15789; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:04:49 -0400 Received: from esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at by esb735.tuwien.ac.at with SMTP (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA14884; Wed, 3 May 1995 14:08:35 +0200 Received: by esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.6)/1.0um) id AA0040; Wed, 03 May 95 14:08:08 -0700 Message-Id: <9505032108.AA0040@esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 03 May 95 13:58:15 +0000 From: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at To: tp750@cs.utk.edu"" Reply-To: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at Subject: Re: Updated driver diskettes for IBM ThinkPad X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Id: <31_70_1_799523896> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: I am using an IBM TP 755C together with WARP, TCPIP 2.0 (latest CSD 64xxx) and IBM Ethernet Adapter (PCMCIA). But I've only got the videoadapter (V 1.2)-, audioadapter (V1.2)- diskettes for OS/2 2.x shipped with the ThinkPad and the two installation diskettes for the Ethernet Adapter (V. 2.01). Unluckily the WARP PCMCIA socket drivers and the WARP Easyplaying don't support my PCMCIA IBM Ethernet Card (max. 10kb/sec) properly. The drivers shipped with the ThinkPad (max. 1Mb/sec) won't work together with the Selective Installation Program of WARP. I also had some minor problems installing the video drivers supporting external Screen with higher resolutions, my Windows fullscreen still has 640x480x16, Windows-seamless-mode has the accurate resolution (selected in the system notebook). Someone out there who had the same problems (or am I the only one using IBM TP755, Warp and IBM PCMCIA Ethernet card???) and got a solution (newer PCMCIA socket drivers, etc...)?? alex From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 3 09:23:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23548; Wed, 3 May 95 09:23:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15853; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:05:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:05:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esb735.tuwien.ac.at by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15779; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:04:36 -0400 Received: from esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at by esb735.tuwien.ac.at with SMTP (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA14878; Wed, 3 May 1995 14:08:02 +0200 Received: by esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.6)/1.0um) id AA0039; Wed, 03 May 95 14:07:35 -0700 Message-Id: <9505032107.AA0039@esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 03 May 95 13:58:15 +0000 From: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at To: tp750@cs.utk.edu"" Reply-To: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at Subject: Re: Updated driver diskettes for IBM ThinkPad X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Id: <31_70_1_799523896> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: I am using an IBM TP 755C together with WARP, TCPIP 2.0 (latest CSD 64xxx) and IBM Ethernet Adapter (PCMCIA). But I've only got the videoadapter (V 1.2)-, audioadapter (V1.2)- diskettes for OS/2 2.x shipped with the ThinkPad and the two installation diskettes for the Ethernet Adapter (V. 2.01). Unluckily the WARP PCMCIA socket drivers and the WARP Easyplaying don't support my PCMCIA IBM Ethernet Card (max. 10kb/sec) properly. The drivers shipped with the ThinkPad (max. 1Mb/sec) won't work together with the Selective Installation Program of WARP. I also had some minor problems installing the video drivers supporting external Screen with higher resolutions, my Windows fullscreen still has 640x480x16, Windows-seamless-mode has the accurate resolution (selected in the system notebook). Someone out there who had the same problems (or am I the only one using IBM TP755, Warp and IBM PCMCIA Ethernet card???) and got a solution (newer PCMCIA socket drivers, etc...)?? alex From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 3 09:26:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24225; Wed, 3 May 95 09:26:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15752; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:03:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:03:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esb735.tuwien.ac.at by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15737; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:03:44 -0400 Received: from esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at by esb735.tuwien.ac.at with SMTP (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA14871; Wed, 3 May 1995 14:07:29 +0200 Received: by esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.6)/1.0um) id AA0038; Wed, 03 May 95 14:07:02 -0700 Message-Id: <9505032107.AA0038@esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 03 May 95 13:58:15 +0000 From: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at To: tp750@cs.utk.edu"" Reply-To: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at Subject: Re: Updated driver diskettes for IBM ThinkPad X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Id: <31_70_1_799523896> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: I am using an IBM TP 755C together with WARP, TCPIP 2.0 (latest CSD 64xxx) and IBM Ethernet Adapter (PCMCIA). But I've only got the videoadapter (V 1.2)-, audioadapter (V1.2)- diskettes for OS/2 2.x shipped with the ThinkPad and the two installation diskettes for the Ethernet Adapter (V. 2.01). Unluckily the WARP PCMCIA socket drivers and the WARP Easyplaying don't support my PCMCIA IBM Ethernet Card (max. 10kb/sec) properly. The drivers shipped with the ThinkPad (max. 1Mb/sec) won't work together with the Selective Installation Program of WARP. I also had some minor problems installing the video drivers supporting external Screen with higher resolutions, my Windows fullscreen still has 640x480x16, Windows-seamless-mode has the accurate resolution (selected in the system notebook). Someone out there who had the same problems (or am I the only one using IBM TP755, Warp and IBM PCMCIA Ethernet card???) and got a solution (newer PCMCIA socket drivers, etc...)?? alex From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 3 09:31:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24301; Wed, 3 May 95 09:31:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16025; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:06:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:06:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esb735.tuwien.ac.at by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15997; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:06:23 -0400 Received: from esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at by esb735.tuwien.ac.at with SMTP (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA14906; Wed, 3 May 1995 14:10:09 +0200 Received: by esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.6)/1.0um) id AA0044; Wed, 03 May 95 14:09:41 -0700 Message-Id: <9505032109.AA0044@esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 03 May 95 13:58:15 +0000 From: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at Sender: aw@tuwien.ac.at To: tp750@cs.utk.edu"" Reply-To: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at Subject: Re: Updated driver diskettes for IBM ThinkPad X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Id: <31_70_1_799523896> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: I am using an IBM TP 755C together with WARP, TCPIP 2.0 (latest CSD 64xxx) and IBM Ethernet Adapter (PCMCIA). But I've only got the videoadapter (V 1.2)-, audioadapter (V1.2)- diskettes for OS/2 2.x shipped with the ThinkPad and the two installation diskettes for the Ethernet Adapter (V. 2.01). Unluckily the WARP PCMCIA socket drivers and the WARP Easyplaying don't support my PCMCIA IBM Ethernet Card (max. 10kb/sec) properly. The drivers shipped with the ThinkPad (max. 1Mb/sec) won't work together with the Selective Installation Program of WARP. I also had some minor problems installing the video drivers supporting external Screen with higher resolutions, my Windows fullscreen still has 640x480x16, Windows-seamless-mode has the accurate resolution (selected in the system notebook). Someone out there who had the same problems (or am I the only one using IBM TP755, Warp and IBM PCMCIA Ethernet card???) and got a solution (newer PCMCIA socket drivers, etc...)?? alex From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 3 09:34:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24348; Wed, 3 May 95 09:34:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15995; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:06:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:06:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esb735.tuwien.ac.at by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15937; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:05:45 -0400 Received: from esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at by esb735.tuwien.ac.at with SMTP (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA14897; Wed, 3 May 1995 14:09:33 +0200 Received: by esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.6)/1.0um) id AA0043; Wed, 03 May 95 14:09:06 -0700 Message-Id: <9505032109.AA0043@esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 03 May 95 13:58:15 +0000 From: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at Sender: aw@tuwien.ac.at To: tp750@cs.utk.edu"" Reply-To: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at Subject: Re: Updated driver diskettes for IBM ThinkPad X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Id: <31_70_1_799523896> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: I am using an IBM TP 755C together with WARP, TCPIP 2.0 (latest CSD 64xxx) and IBM Ethernet Adapter (PCMCIA). But I've only got the videoadapter (V 1.2)-, audioadapter (V1.2)- diskettes for OS/2 2.x shipped with the ThinkPad and the two installation diskettes for the Ethernet Adapter (V. 2.01). Unluckily the WARP PCMCIA socket drivers and the WARP Easyplaying don't support my PCMCIA IBM Ethernet Card (max. 10kb/sec) properly. The drivers shipped with the ThinkPad (max. 1Mb/sec) won't work together with the Selective Installation Program of WARP. I also had some minor problems installing the video drivers supporting external Screen with higher resolutions, my Windows fullscreen still has 640x480x16, Windows-seamless-mode has the accurate resolution (selected in the system notebook). Someone out there who had the same problems (or am I the only one using IBM TP755, Warp and IBM PCMCIA Ethernet card???) and got a solution (newer PCMCIA socket drivers, etc...)?? alex From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 3 09:35:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24614; Wed, 3 May 95 09:35:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16075; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:07:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:07:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esb735.tuwien.ac.at by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16036; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:07:23 -0400 Received: from esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at by esb735.tuwien.ac.at with SMTP (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA14914; Wed, 3 May 1995 14:10:45 +0200 Received: by esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.6)/1.0um) id AA0046; Wed, 03 May 95 14:10:17 -0700 Message-Id: <9505032110.AA0046@esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 03 May 95 13:58:15 +0000 From: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at Sender: aw@tuwien.ac.at To: tp750@cs.utk.edu"" Reply-To: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at Subject: Re: Updated driver diskettes for IBM ThinkPad X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Id: <31_70_1_799523896> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: I am using an IBM TP 755C together with WARP, TCPIP 2.0 (latest CSD 64xxx) and IBM Ethernet Adapter (PCMCIA). But I've only got the videoadapter (V 1.2)-, audioadapter (V1.2)- diskettes for OS/2 2.x shipped with the ThinkPad and the two installation diskettes for the Ethernet Adapter (V. 2.01). Unluckily the WARP PCMCIA socket drivers and the WARP Easyplaying don't support my PCMCIA IBM Ethernet Card (max. 10kb/sec) properly. The drivers shipped with the ThinkPad (max. 1Mb/sec) won't work together with the Selective Installation Program of WARP. I also had some minor problems installing the video drivers supporting external Screen with higher resolutions, my Windows fullscreen still has 640x480x16, Windows-seamless-mode has the accurate resolution (selected in the system notebook). Someone out there who had the same problems (or am I the only one using IBM TP755, Warp and IBM PCMCIA Ethernet card???) and got a solution (newer PCMCIA socket drivers, etc...)?? alex From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 3 09:38:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24631; Wed, 3 May 95 09:38:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA16012; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:06:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:06:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esb735.tuwien.ac.at by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15996; Wed, 3 May 1995 08:06:23 -0400 Received: from esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at by esb735.tuwien.ac.at with SMTP (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA14907; Wed, 3 May 1995 14:10:09 +0200 Received: by esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.6)/1.0um) id AA0045; Wed, 03 May 95 14:09:42 -0700 Message-Id: <9505032109.AA0045@esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 03 May 95 14:09:29 +0000 From: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Reply-To: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at Subject: Re: Updated driver diskettes for IBM ThinkPad X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Id: <31_70_1_799524570> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: Alexander Wirth, Inst. f. Schaltgeraete und Hochspannungstechnik TU Wien, Gusshausstr. 25-29/374, 1040 Wien //--- forwarded letter ------------------------------------------------------- >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Date: Wed, 03 May 95 13:58:15 +0000 >From: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at >Sender: aw@esbhalley.tuwien.ac.at >To: tp750@cs.utk.edu" >Reply-To: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at >Subject: Re: Updated driver diskettes for IBM ThinkPad >Content-Type: multipart/mixed; charset="US-ASCII"; > boundary="PART.BOUNDARY.0031.799524421" > >I am using an IBM TP 755C together with WARP, TCPIP 2.0 (latest CSD 64xxx) and >IBM Ethernet Adapter (PCMCIA). > >But I've only got the videoadapter (V 1.2)-, audioadapter (V1.2)- >diskettes for OS/2 2.x shipped with the ThinkPad and the two installation diskettes for >the Ethernet Adapter (V. 2.01). Unluckily the WARP PCMCIA socket drivers >and the WARP Easyplaying don't support my PCMCIA IBM Ethernet Card (max. 10kb/sec) properly. >The drivers shipped with the ThinkPad (max. 1Mb/sec) won't work together >with the Selective Installation Program of WARP. > >I also had some minor problems installing the video drivers supporting external Screen with >higher resolutions, my Windows fullscreen still has 640x480x16, Windows-seamless-mode has the >accurate resolution (selected in the system notebook). > >Someone out there who had the same problems (or am I the only one using IBM TP755, Warp >and IBM PCMCIA Ethernet card???) and got a solution (newer PCMCIA socket drivers, etc...)?? > >alex From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 3 09:56:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25683; Wed, 3 May 95 09:56:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23343; Wed, 3 May 1995 09:47:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 3 May 1995 09:47:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23333; Wed, 3 May 1995 09:47:30 -0400 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA01265; Wed, 3 May 95 07:46:54 MDT Date: Wed, 3 May 95 07:46:54 MDT From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9505031346.AA01265@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: [OFF SUBJECT] Anyone suggest a good mail program for OS/2? I've been using the "Post Road Mailer" from Innoval for about a week now, and have found it to be a very capable replacement for UltiMail. It has the same if not better feature set as UltiMail (MIME, filters, drag-and-drop, etc.), but it is *much* speedier. You can check it out via Innoval's web page: http://www.aescon.com/innoval/index.htm Regards, -- Karl E. Yeanoplos Denver, CO kyeanopl@den.mmc.com / key@csn.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 3 10:14:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27127; Wed, 3 May 95 10:14:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA13099; Wed, 3 May 1995 07:11:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 3 May 1995 07:11:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA13088; Wed, 3 May 1995 07:11:09 -0400 Received: from todd-dial.engr.wisc.edu (todd-dial.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.4.130]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id GAA20024 for ; Wed, 3 May 1995 06:10:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 06:10:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199505031110.GAA20024@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: 28.8 and MWAVE? I know IBM says that a V.34 28.8Kbaud modem upgrade will be available for the Thinkpad's MWAVE. Apprently, the latest patches for MWAVE on the ftp site/bulletin board still only have a 14.4 Kbaud modem, right? anyone know _when_ ibm will be releasing the 28.8 mwave modem software? anyone even hear any rumors? how about windows-NT drivers for the MWAVE stuff? thanks as always for the information, Todd =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Todd Tannenbaum email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu Director of the Model Advanced Facility voice phone: (608) 262-3118 Computer-Aided Engineering Center FAX phone: (608) 265-4546 University of Wisconsin-Madison From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 3 13:39:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10340; Wed, 3 May 95 13:39:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11809; Wed, 3 May 1995 13:19:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 3 May 1995 13:19:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA11797; Wed, 3 May 1995 13:19:10 -0400 Received: from mailhost.hooked.net (jesse@tuna.hooked.net [199.2.134.11]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA03714 for ; Wed, 3 May 1995 10:19:01 -0700 Message-Id: <199505031719.KAA03714@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 03 May 1995 10:19:12 -0700 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: 355cs, sound? Greetings, my mom has a 355cs, but she didn't get a manual (bought at radio shack) anyone know if they support sound? It looks as though it might, but I couldn't get it to work in win95 (my 755cs sound works fine in win95) ____________________________________________________________________ http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 3 15:27:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15985; Wed, 3 May 95 15:27:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20448; Wed, 3 May 1995 15:01:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 3 May 1995 15:01:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20436; Wed, 3 May 1995 15:01:39 -0400 Received: from phakt.usc.edu (whittle@phakt.usc.edu [128.125.253.144]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id MAA29320 for ; Wed, 3 May 1995 12:01:31 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by phakt.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id MAA06809 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Wed, 3 May 1995 12:01:29 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199505031901.MAA06809@phakt.usc.edu> Subject: ISDN modems To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 12:01:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone tell me anything about ISDN modems? I don't know anything about them really, and since I'm about to start Grad school right here at USC, I've been considering having an ISDN line installed, given that USC is only a block away and I'm going to be parked here for at least the next couple of years (someone told me that Pacific Bell will charge $250 of somesuch to put it in, but will waive that if you keep the line for two years or amortize the remaining cost if you do not). Anyway, if I were actually to get this ISDN line, could someone tell me what is involved? What equipment would I need? Could I operate a regular phone on it? (I'm told there are various channels, etc.) Thanks to any and all. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 3 16:23:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19617; Wed, 3 May 95 16:23:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21013; Wed, 3 May 1995 15:09:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 3 May 1995 15:09:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA21000; Wed, 3 May 1995 15:09:25 -0400 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14139; Wed, 3 May 95 15:09:05 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Received: by slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.13B/1.0um) id AA0022; Wed, 03 May 95 15:08:56 -0400 Date: Wed, 03 May 95 15:08:56 -0400 Message-Id: <9505031908.AA0022@slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu> To: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Wed, 03 May 95 13:58:15 +0000 from aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at Subject: Updated driver diskettes for IBM ThinkPad Date: Wed, 03 May 95 13:58:15 +0000 From: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at But I've only got the videoadapter (V 1.2)-, audioadapter (V1.2)- diskettes for OS/2 2.x shipped with the ThinkPad and the two installation diskettes for the Ethernet Adapter (V. 2.01). Unluckily the WARP PCMCIA socket drivers and the WARP Easyplaying don't support my PCMCIA IBM Ethernet Card (max. 10kb/sec) properly. The drivers shipped with the ThinkPad (max. 1Mb/sec) won't work together with the Selective Installation Program of WARP. I just checked the directory listing for the IBM ftp site "ftp.pcco.ibm.com" and found the current drivers are: /pub/network/eteng203.zip PCMCIA Ethernet v. 2.03 /pub/mobiles/aftps131.exe Audio Features v. 1.31 /pub/mobiles/vftps133.exe Video Features v. 1.33 Perhaps the newer ethernet card drivers will help with your problem. I used the build-in audio and video support in Warp, and I don't experience any of the video trouble you mention. I'm running an external display and the Windows full-screen switches resolutions as it's supposed to. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 3 22:20:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12744; Wed, 3 May 95 22:20:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20309; Wed, 3 May 1995 22:07:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 3 May 1995 22:07:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA20299; Wed, 3 May 1995 22:07:52 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA02123 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Wed, 3 May 1995 22:07:46 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA39818; Wed, 3 May 1995 22:07:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 22:07:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: Randal Whittle Cc: TP Subject: Re: ISDN modems In-Reply-To: <199505031901.MAA06809@phakt.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Probably all you need is an ISDN modem such as IBM's waverunner or some equivalent. They even have it in a PCMCIA model. On Wed, 3 May 1995, Randal Whittle wrote: > > Can anyone tell me anything about ISDN modems? > > I don't know anything about them really, and since I'm about to > start Grad school right here at USC, I've been considering having an > ISDN line installed, given that USC is only a block away and I'm going to > be parked here for at least the next couple of years (someone told me > that Pacific Bell will charge $250 of somesuch to put it in, but will > waive that if you keep the line for two years or amortize the remaining > cost if you do not). > > Anyway, if I were actually to get this ISDN line, could someone > tell me what is involved? What equipment would I need? Could I operate > a regular phone on it? (I'm told there are various channels, etc.) > > Thanks to any and all. > > ----- ___________________________ > Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | > USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | > (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | > right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | > --------------------------- > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 4 02:19:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28446; Thu, 4 May 95 02:19:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04607; Thu, 4 May 1995 02:10:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 4 May 1995 02:10:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from maxwell.otago.ac.nz by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA04585; Thu, 4 May 1995 02:10:38 -0400 Received: by maxwell.otago.ac.nz (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA13658; Thu, 4 May 1995 18:11:09 +1200 From: ballagh@maxwell.otago.ac.nz (robert ballagh) Message-Id: <9505040611.AA13658@maxwell.otago.ac.nz> Subject: OS2 backup to DAT tape? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 18:11:09 +1200 (NZST) Rob Ballagh University of Otago Phone: (64)-(03)-4797793 Fax: (64)-(03)-4790964 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 463 I have a TP 755C running OS/2 Warp, and wish to back up the entire hard disk onto a DAT tape. I have ordered the IBM PCM SCSI card, but wonder what additional software I will need (if any) to carry out the backup. Would the same software allow me to reconstitute the disk from the tape? And is the process independent of the particular model of DAT drive? If anyone has any experience or tips, I would be grateful to hear of them Many thanks Rob Ballagh From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 4 03:32:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04838; Thu, 4 May 95 03:32:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08098; Thu, 4 May 1995 03:19:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 4 May 1995 03:19:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA08084; Thu, 4 May 1995 03:19:19 -0400 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03729; Thu, 4 May 95 03:18:55 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Received: by slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.13B/1.0um) id AA0079; Thu, 04 May 95 03:18:45 -0400 Date: Thu, 04 May 95 03:18:45 -0400 Message-Id: <9505040718.AA0079@slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu> To: ballagh@maxwell.otago.ac.nz Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Thu, 4 May 1995 18:11:09 +1200 (NZST) from ballagh@maxwell.otago.ac.nz (robert ballagh) Subject: OS2 backup to DAT tape? From: ballagh@maxwell.otago.ac.nz (robert ballagh) Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 18:11:09 +1200 (NZST) I have a TP 755C running OS/2 Warp, and wish to back up the entire hard disk onto a DAT tape. I have ordered the IBM PCM SCSI card, but wonder what additional software I will need (if any) to carry out the backup. Would the same software allow me to reconstitute the disk from the tape? And is the process independent of the particular model of DAT drive? If anyone has any experience or tips, I would be grateful to hear of them I've been using GTAR/GTAK, which has three advantages. First, it's free (you can get it from hobbes or several other ftp sites). Second, it can be used to interchange tapes with unix systems. Third, if you use the "Quick File Access" feature, it is very fast at locating specific files on a tape. On the down side: this program is difficult to install because the installation instructions are sketchy (maybe cryptic is more accurate). It took me a couple of hours to puzzle out the instructions enough to get it working. Considering that I have much experience with both DDS drives and SCSI, I think this is pretty awful. Also on the down side, tar is not the friendliest program to use, because it has no user interface. And further, while tar is fine for doing full or incremental backups, it's pretty bad at doing archival storage where you periodically add more things to the archive; it can be done, but it's not pleasant. Mainly I continue using it because it's free, and it works well enough that I don't want to spend the time trying other things. Also I have been keeping track of people's comments regarding OS/2 tape backup programs, and I've yet to hear that any particular program is outstanding. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 4 10:37:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28932; Thu, 4 May 95 10:37:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15822; Thu, 4 May 1995 10:24:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 4 May 1995 10:24:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA15806; Thu, 4 May 1995 10:24:26 -0400 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 7273; Thu, 04 May 95 10:24:14 EDT Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 2413; Thu, 4 May 1995 10:24:14 EDT Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Thu, 04 May 95 10:24:14 EDT Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA28693; Thu, 4 May 1995 10:24:13 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 10:24:13 -0400 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9505041424.AA28693@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: "Vincent B. Wayland"'s message of Mon, 1 May 1995 22:49:26 -0600 <199505020449.AA06133@teal.csn.org> Subject: Processor Magazine >Gibraltar Computer, Conyers, GA, 1-800-486-3480, Fax: (404) 929-3671, >is advertising TP701s and TP7XX with prices. I don't have a magic decoder >to translate the IBM nomenclature; >2630 UT2 $4592 >2630 UT5 4928 >2630 2TU 5071 >2630 5TU 5406 Here is the decoding, in the order listed above: 701C, 486/DX2, 4MB, 360MB 701C, 486/DX2, 4MB, 540MB 701C, 486/DX4, 8MB, 360MB 701C, 486/DX4, 8MB, 540MB From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 4 10:46:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29046; Thu, 4 May 95 10:46:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17016; Thu, 4 May 1995 10:36:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 4 May 1995 10:36:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16999; Thu, 4 May 1995 10:36:19 -0400 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id aa10364; 4 May 95 14:49 GMT-60:00 Received: from filct.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id ac01221; 4 May 95 14:48 GMT-60:00 From: "Mike O'Carroll" X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: aw@esb735.tuwien.ac.at Subject: Re: Updated driver diskettes for IBM ThinkPad Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 4 May 95 14:18:54 BST Message-Id: <9505041418.aa19844@hipass.filct.com> But I've only got the videoadapter (V 1.2)-, audioadapter (V1.2)- diskettes for OS/2 2.x shipped with the ThinkPad and the two installation diskettes for the Ethernet Adapter (V. 2.01). Unluckily the WARP PCMCIA socket drivers and the WARP Easyplaying don't support my PCMCIA IBM Ethernet Card (max. 10kb/sec) properly. The drivers shipped with the ThinkPad (max. 1Mb/sec) won't work together with the Selective Installation Program of WARP. I haven't tried TCP/IP yet, but I have got the Netware ODI stuff working. I just used the latest requester stuff plus the drivers on the ethernet card disk. I plan to add the odinsup stuff soon to run tcp/ip. I had some discussions with the Helpline, various example configs, socket driver disks, etc, etc. In the end, I was told just to use whatever came with warp. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 4 14:30:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17981; Thu, 4 May 95 14:30:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04174; Thu, 4 May 1995 14:13:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 4 May 1995 14:13:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04164; Thu, 4 May 1995 14:13:12 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id OAA24725; Thu, 4 May 1995 14:16:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 14:16:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: robert ballagh Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: OS2 backup to DAT tape? In-Reply-To: <9505040611.AA13658@maxwell.otago.ac.nz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 4 May 1995, robert ballagh wrote: > I have a TP 755C running OS/2 Warp, and wish to back up the entire > hard disk onto a DAT tape. I have ordered the IBM PCM SCSI card, but wonder > what additional software I will need (if any) to carry out the backup. > Would the same software allow me to reconstitute the disk from the > tape? And is the process independent of the particular model of DAT drive? Several of my co-workers use the company SCSI DAT to back up their machines once a week (they buy their own tapes, so what the hell) and the OS/2 users just use GTAR. Lacks in snazz value, but it's free. And in the case of GTAR, it is independent of tape model. You can find the program on Hobbes under the unix subdirectory. Hell, look in the index. FYI for other FTP hounds like myself: The CICA, Simtel and Hobbes CD ROMS put out by Walnut Creek are available for $16 a piece, which to me was worth it to save xfer time. http://www.raddev.com/biz/raddev has the info - I'm not affiliated, just a happy customer. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 5 12:07:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10257; Fri, 5 May 95 12:07:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09784; Fri, 5 May 1995 11:49:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 5 May 1995 11:49:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09774; Fri, 5 May 1995 11:49:49 -0400 Received: from lorax.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id AA13827; Fri, 5 May 1995 11:44:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 May 95 11:49:08 EDT From: "Gary E. Moore" Sender: Gary@lorax.vmedia.com Subject: modem vs soundcard To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just received a Thinkpad 755CD...my mis department, in setting up the machine, tells me that I can use the modem or the soundcard but not both at the same time...that sounds a bit odd to me....does anyone have any experience with this? -------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Moore Ventana Communications Group gary@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/gary -------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 5 12:44:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11688; Fri, 5 May 95 12:44:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13720; Fri, 5 May 1995 12:29:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 5 May 1995 12:29:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA13696; Fri, 5 May 1995 12:29:28 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA22451; Fri, 5 May 95 12:30:13 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 May 95 12:30:13 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505051630.AA22451@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: gary@vmedia.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: modem vs soundcard makes reasonable sense, given that both use the same DSP chip. Of course you can always use a PCMICA modem on this machine. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 5 12:50:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11902; Fri, 5 May 95 12:50:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14464; Fri, 5 May 1995 12:38:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 5 May 1995 12:38:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14452; Fri, 5 May 1995 12:38:06 -0400 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by Eisner.DECUS.Org (PMDF V4.2-12 #4291) id <01HQ575XN6A8001ZCZ@Eisner.DECUS.Org>; Fri, 5 May 1995 12:32:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 05 May 1995 12:32:17 -0400 (EDT) From: billy@mix.com Subject: Re: modem vs soundcard In-Reply-To: Sender: YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org To: gary@vmedia.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <799691537.294783.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Mail-System-Version: Gary E. Moore writes - > I just received a Thinkpad 755CD...my mis department, in setting up the > machine, tells me that I can use the modem or the soundcard but not both at > the same time...that sounds a bit odd to me....does anyone have any > experience with this? Yes, this is true, unlesss you want to go 2400 on the modem. Any faster and there's not enough of the Mwave DSP capacity left for both. On the other hand, the Mwave modem has an unusally large latency (650ms with the shipped software, drops to 600ms with the newest from ftp.pcco.ibm.com) so probably you'll be happier with a PCMCIA modem anyway. Billy Y.. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 5 13:12:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13146; Fri, 5 May 95 13:12:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16450; Fri, 5 May 1995 13:03:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 5 May 1995 13:03:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16437; Fri, 5 May 1995 13:03:48 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA22845; Fri, 5 May 1995 10:03:39 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id KAA19043; Fri, 5 May 1995 10:03:38 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199505051703.KAA19043@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: OS2 backup to DAT tape? To: ballagh@maxwell.otago.ac.nz (robert ballagh) Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 10:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9505040611.AA13658@maxwell.otago.ac.nz> from "robert ballagh" at May 4, 95 06:11:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I have a TP 755C running OS/2 Warp, and wish to back up the entire > hard disk onto a DAT tape. I have ordered the IBM PCM SCSI card, but wonder > what additional software I will need (if any) to carry out the backup. > Would the same software allow me to reconstitute the disk from the > tape? And is the process independent of the particular model of DAT drive? > > If anyone has any experience or tips, I would be grateful to hear of > them I know of one software program that I've used in its DOS & Windows incarnations that I really think is great--its called "Novaback" and its published by a company called Novasoft in the S.F. Valley outside L.A. (818 area code, if you want to call information). They make it for other platforms including Unix and I'm quite sure they also have an OS/2 version. I've never used it, but if its anything like their DOS or Windows versions, I'm sure you'll like it. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 5 13:32:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14211; Fri, 5 May 95 13:32:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17829; Fri, 5 May 1995 13:24:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 5 May 1995 13:24:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rip.psg.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17819; Fri, 5 May 1995 13:24:22 -0400 Received: by rip.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7R6v-000301C; Fri, 5 May 95 10:24 PDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 5 May 95 10:24 PDT From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) To: "Gary E. Moore" Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: modem vs soundcard References: > I just received a Thinkpad 755CD...my mis department, in setting up the > machine, tells me that I can use the modem or the soundcard but not both at > the same time...that sounds a bit odd to me....does anyone have any > experience with this? You have neither a modem nor a sound card. You have a DSP and some glue, and a lot of software in DOS/Win which use it to emulate *either* a modem or a sound card. This is particularly useless to those of us who run neither DOS, Windows, or OS/2. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 5 17:09:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00116; Fri, 5 May 95 17:09:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05685; Fri, 5 May 1995 16:52:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 5 May 1995 16:52:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05673; Fri, 5 May 1995 16:52:43 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA25662; Fri, 5 May 95 16:53:24 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 May 95 16:53:24 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505052053.AA25662@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: ballagh@maxwell.otago.ac.nz, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: OS2 backup to DAT tape? Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU are the reference diskettes (utility disk and driver disk) for the 755CD available online somewhere (the 755CD is just bought is missing these disks GRRRR!) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 6 02:48:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27051; Sat, 6 May 95 02:48:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07147; Sat, 6 May 1995 02:34:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 6 May 1995 02:34:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cssu46.cs.ust.hk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA07135; Sat, 6 May 1995 02:34:11 -0400 Received: from cssu100.cs.ust.hk (cssu100.cs.ust.hk [143.89.40.100]) by cssu46.cs.ust.hk (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA16253; Sat, 6 May 1995 14:32:46 +0800 Received: (from ejd@localhost) by cssu100.cs.ust.hk (8.6.10/8.6.9) id OAA28676; Sat, 6 May 1995 14:32:13 +0800 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 14:32:13 +0800 From: "Dr. E. Joseph Derrick" Message-Id: <199505060632.OAA28676@cssu100.cs.ust.hk> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP755Cs/LINUX Slackware 2.2.0 Installation Cc: ejd@cs.ust.hk Hi everyone, I have been attempting this LINUX installation on my TP755Cs/8MegRam/DX4-75/ 340MegHD/1.44Mfloppy. This is a standalone configuration for now and I have a few questions for the LINUX gurus among this list. I have already checked the FAQs/HOWTOs, Jesse's web page, & the web page at peipa.essex.ac.uk. I have looked around for the answers and don't mind being told if there are other Web pages/ pointers I should check out for answers to my questions. 1. I have been told that there is 755Cs info at www.cica.fr web page. But, I cannot access the web page at http://www.cica.fr:9090/~basturk/... or www.cica,fr./~basturk/... etc. or variations of the above. I can only get into the top level www.cica.fr and can't find my way to the right place for the 755Cs/Linux specific information. Any ideas or does anyone know the right address? Maybe it's no longer there. 2. I am installing Linux on 340 Meg drive with 8Meg swap partition, with the remainder for Linux (no DOS partitions). I have another 170Meg drive which I run DOS/Windows. I do not have APM under LINUX yet on the 340Megger, so when I switch between these two drives, my battery (the only one I have) is going haywire. I think if I had a DOS partition, that the built-in battery operations would probably work, because they could keep the important files updated on the DOS partition. At this point, since I am so far into the LINUX installation and cannot easily go back and repartition, I think that I will only use the battery under DOS/Windows (where APM is alive and well) and pull it out when I shift to LINUX. So, my questions are two here: - When I am plugged into AC (with the NIMH battery out), is the internal battery which maintains the clock and other features being replenished or am I in danger of running it down if I run long hours under LINUX this way? - Once I get APM up and running under LINUX, can I safely use my battery under both LINUX APM and Windows APM (no matter which hard drive I am using)? 3. Finally, the peipa.essex.ac.uk web pages on TP and LINUX discuss the difficulties with LINUX recognizing the TP floppy and harddrive and the need for using the patched bootdisk, and then overwriting the kernel (created after installation) with the patched kernel on the bootdisk. Adrian Clark also says that this patched disk helps keep from "trashing" low memory. So... - I am having trouble figuring out how to copy the bootdisk kernel to my hard disk. I have installed the A disk series using the patched boot disk and color144 rootdisk. I can boot up the hard disk using LILO. My attempts to mount the bootdisk floppy and then copy the patched kernel over to hard disk are not working. I can get the floppy to mount, but then "ls" shows nothing under /mnt. - What is this "trashing" of low memory problem that Adrian mentions and is there a patch out there somewhere that I can put into my kernel? If so, then I don't need to use the "patched" boot disk once I'm installed and can create my own kernel. Thanks in advance for your help, Joe Derrick ejd@cs.ust.hk From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 6 03:44:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00592; Sat, 6 May 95 03:44:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10650; Sat, 6 May 1995 03:28:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 6 May 1995 03:28:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA10605; Sat, 6 May 1995 03:28:04 -0400 Received: from get.hooked.net (get.hooked.net [199.2.134.2]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with ESMTP id AAA29349; Sat, 6 May 1995 00:27:27 -0700 Received: from p07.slip.net (sfsp113.slip.net [204.160.88.141]) by get.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA13180; Sat, 6 May 1995 00:27:23 -0700 Message-Id: <199505060727.AAA13180@get.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 06 May 1995 00:29:26 -0700 To: "Dr. E. Joseph Derrick" , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: TP755Cs/LINUX Slackware 2.2.0 Installation At 02:32 PM 5/6/95 +0800, Dr. E. Joseph Derrick wrote: [...] >I have already checked the FAQs/HOWTOs, Jesse's web page, & the web page [...] >1. I have been told that there is 755Cs info at www.cica.fr web page. But, >I cannot access the web page at http://www.cica.fr:9090/~basturk/... or >www.cica,fr./~basturk/... etc. or variations of the above. I can only get >into the top level www.cica.fr and can't find my way to the right place for >the 755Cs/Linux specific information. Any ideas or does anyone know the right >address? Maybe it's no longer there. You already found it :) I don't actually have a page, I am simply the unworthy receptacle of Mr Basturk's page... The page that used to be at http://www.cica.fr:9090/~basturk/ is now at http://www.hooked.net/people/jesse/linux >- When I am plugged into AC (with the NIMH battery out), is the internal battery >which maintains the clock and other features being replenished or am I in danger >of running it down if I run long hours under LINUX this way? I haven't installed linux on my 755cs yet, but there is another battery that handles the clock and such, just like on a desktop. It's good for years, so you can rest easy there :) ____________________________________________________________________ http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 6 15:13:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10541; Sat, 6 May 95 15:13:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23133; Sat, 6 May 1995 14:50:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 6 May 1995 14:50:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA23117; Sat, 6 May 1995 14:50:37 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144286>; Sat, 6 May 1995 14:50:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: "Dr. E. Joseph Derrick"'s message as of May 6, 2:54am X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: "Dr. E. Joseph Derrick" , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755Cs/LINUX Slackware 2.2.0 Installation Message-Id: <95May6.145027edt.144286@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 14:50:26 -0400 I can't address the issue of power management, but I loaded a Linux kernel both from the recent Infomagic release and from David Hind's PCMCIA boot floppies, and had little trouble installing Linux. I didn't have to make any of the dreaded kernel mods for the floppy, nor did I need the special boot floppy that apparently was needed for prior releases. That is, the new kernel (1.2.5 and above) seems to know about ThinkPads. Windows, DOS, OS/2 Warp were already installed on the system, so I defragmented, and ran FIPS to partition in place. I admit to taking a full system backup, however, by tarring to my Sun box and creating appropriate system floppies. The HOWTO's are extremely informative. Also, if you are getting the Infomagic release, be sure to check out the Windows browser for the HOWTO's. Target installation: 755CE with 810MB drive. With PCMCIA support, Linux was able to find my (NE2000 compatible) ethernet card, so I was joyfully NFS'ing very quickly. It's a real treat to be able to cross-mount ThinkPad partitions on my Sun and vice versa. You won't be able to do this in a production shop though, because I found I had to HUP the inetd fairly regularly on disconnect and reconnect. A two-point twisted-pair connection requires a special TP cable, by the way (it's essentially a null-modem TP cable). To get the card properly initialised, it seems that I have to boot DOS first, and then do a LOADLIN. This suits me fine, because the default is that it's a standard DOS/Windows box. With IRQ rearrangement, I could probably get away with not doing this. Outstanding problems: getting 16bpp from the WD driver, no access to any MWAVE functions (including modem, SB, fax, MIDI), and no support for my Raven CD-Note PCMCIA SCSI CD-ROM. Can anyone provide any advice on any of these problems? Note that this is exactly where I'm sitting with OS/2 as well, so you can guess which one I'm going to trash. If you have problems loading Linux from your CD-ROM, but the unit is visible from one of the other systems, then it is quite convenient to load the distribution from the CD-ROM to your hard disk and install from there. It's probably faster that way too. Anyway, if you have a similar set up, I *might* be competent to answer questions. By the way, if you are going to use a ThinkPad exclusively for Linux, then I would suggest that you purchase a cheaper Pad. The nifty goodies like MWAVE/DSP just aren't usable, as far as I can see. An inconvenience yes, but I'm not bitter about it as another poster appears to be. In X, be sure to use a virtual screen (defined in XFConfig). You'll really miss the higher resolution otherwise. Overall, my 755CE performs at an almost identical clip to my Sun SS10/41. For cache intensive stuff, the 1MB cache of the 41 can't be beat, but for basic computing they are both qualitatively and quantitatively similar. Cheers, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 7 01:05:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21206; Sun, 7 May 95 01:05:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24003; Sun, 7 May 1995 00:50:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 7 May 1995 00:50:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mindvox.phantom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23990; Sun, 7 May 1995 00:50:50 -0400 Received: (from alster@localhost) by mindvox.phantom.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) id AAA02961 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 7 May 1995 00:46:18 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: ChameleonNFS 4.0 and 755ce From: alster@phantom.com (taoster) Comments: ? Message-Id: Date: Sun, 07 May 95 00:45:09 EDT Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Is anyone having a problem with ChameleonNFS (4.0) not recognizing the DSP modem? I started that and Windows Terminal side-by-side ...and Terminal seems to work fine ...while Chameleon gives me device not found or something like that. http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 7 09:14:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28077; Sun, 7 May 95 09:14:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25020; Sun, 7 May 1995 08:56:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 7 May 1995 08:56:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from eljefe.ca.dynix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25010; Sun, 7 May 1995 08:56:32 -0400 Received: by eljefe.ca.dynix.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA36042; Sun, 7 May 1995 08:55:06 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 08:55:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Saunders To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: PCMCIA drivers on tp750CE Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can anyone shed more light on exactly what all these drivers do? DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\IBMDSS01.SYS DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\IBMDOSCS.SYS DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\DICRMU01.SYS /MA=C000-C0FF DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV.SYS C:\THINKPAD\AUTODRV.INI DEVICE=C:\THINKPAD\$ICPMDOS.SYS The documentation/readme/FAQ etc. give rather sparse explanations. I have successfully accessed my Xircom PCMCIA Ethernet adapter using only the first two drivers (IBMDSS01.SYS and IBMDOSCS.SYS). These, I take it, are for Socket Services and Card Services, and are required before any PCM card is recognized by the system. I coudn't seem to make the card work at all if I loaded DICRMU01.SYS, regardless of memory address used. [I made sure my memory manager eXcluded the same address.] I REM'd the last two (AUTODRV and $ICPMDOS) to conserve memory, since the system appears to work OK without them. Am I going to run into trouble later on if I neglect these last three? I will soon likely be using a PCM modem in addition to the Ethernet adapter. The system will invariably be using the AC adapter when the PCM cards are required, so I don't see the need for power management. Thanks for any help you can give me with this, Rick Saunders (rms@ca.dynix.com) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 7 15:15:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28217; Sun, 7 May 95 15:15:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13477; Sun, 7 May 1995 14:49:17 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 7 May 1995 14:49:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13467; Sun, 7 May 1995 14:49:09 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22661; Sun, 7 May 95 11:48:57 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) id LAA27342; Sun, 7 May 1995 11:48:56 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9505071148.ZM27340@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 11:48:55 -0700 In-Reply-To: alster@phantom.com (taoster) "ChameleonNFS 4.0 and 755ce" (May 7, 12:45am) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: ChameleonNFS 4.0 and 755ce Cc: alster@phantom.com (taoster) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On May 7, 12:45am, taoster wrote: > Subject: ChameleonNFS 4.0 and 755ce > Is anyone having a problem with ChameleonNFS (4.0) not recognizing the > DSP modem? I started that and Windows Terminal side-by-side ...and > Terminal seems to work fine ...while Chameleon gives me device not > found or something like that. Chameleon won't work if you have another Windows task which has allocated the COM port for the modem already. Only one Windows task can use the COM port at a time. Robert -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Robert George Computer Engineer (408) 656-3316 Fax: (408) 656-2814 Army Research Laboratory/AMSRL-SS-IC/2800 Powder Mill Rd/Adelphi, MD 20783 URL: http://cs.nps.navy.mil/people/phd/george "I am Homer of Borg, prepare to be assim... Ooooooooh donuts!" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 7 16:46:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03710; Sun, 7 May 95 16:46:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19668; Sun, 7 May 1995 16:28:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 7 May 1995 16:28:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19644; Sun, 7 May 1995 16:28:11 -0400 Received: from hp715.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA11048; Sun, 7 May 1995 14:25:45 -0600 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by hp715.cuug.ab.ca (1.37.109.16//ident-1.0) id AA030028786; Sun, 7 May 1995 14:33:06 -0600 Message-Id: <199505072033.AA030028786@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: TP755Cs/LINUX Slackware 2.2.0 Installation To: elf@dgp.toronto.edu (Eugene Fiume) Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 14:33:06 -0600 (MDT) Cc: ejd@cs.ust.hk, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <95May6.145027edt.144286@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> from "Eugene Fiume" at May 6, 95 02:50:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I can't address the issue of power management, but I loaded a Linux kernel > both from the recent Infomagic release and from David Hind's PCMCIA > boot floppies, and had little trouble installing Linux. I didn't have > to make any of the dreaded kernel mods for the floppy, nor did I need > the special boot floppy that apparently was needed for prior releases. > That is, the new kernel (1.2.5 and above) seems to know about ThinkPads. I also have loaded Linux on many Thinkpad laptops and it is really simple now. > With PCMCIA support, Linux was able to find my (NE2000 compatible) > ethernet card, so I was joyfully NFS'ing very quickly. It's a real > treat to be able to cross-mount ThinkPad partitions on my Sun and vice > versa. You won't be able to do this in a production shop though, > because I found I had to HUP the inetd fairly regularly on disconnect > and reconnect. A two-point twisted-pair connection requires a special > TP cable, by the way (it's essentially a null-modem TP cable). I would be interested in how to make a null TP cable. I was going to play Doom head-to-head just yesterday but had no cable! > To get the card properly initialised, it seems that I have to boot DOS > first, and then do a LOADLIN. This suits me fine, because the default > is that it's a standard DOS/Windows box. With IRQ rearrangement, I > could probably get away with not doing this. With my NE2000 compatible card I can directly boot up (GVC model) using Lilo. > Outstanding problems: getting 16bpp from the WD driver, no access to > any MWAVE functions (including modem, SB, fax, MIDI), and no support > for my Raven CD-Note PCMCIA SCSI CD-ROM. Can anyone provide any advice > on any of these problems? Note that this is exactly where I'm sitting > with OS/2 as well, so you can guess which one I'm going to trash. > If you have problems loading Linux from your CD-ROM, but the unit is > visible from one of the other systems, then it is quite convenient to > load the distribution from the CD-ROM to your hard disk and install from > there. It's probably faster that way too. Same problems with 16bpp and MWAVE. I have looked into getting the MWAVE stuff running. I was running the drivers using DOSEMU and it was getting a fair ways except they use DMA and DOSEMU doesn't allow that. I'm still trying to track down someone at IBM willing to help me! > Anyway, if you have a similar set up, I *might* be competent to answer > questions. I could help too... > By the way, if you are going to use a ThinkPad exclusively for Linux, > then I would suggest that you purchase a cheaper Pad. The nifty goodies > like MWAVE/DSP just aren't usable, as far as I can see. An inconvenience > yes, but I'm not bitter about it as another poster appears to be. Sadly the faster CPU models come with all the extras so a cheaper pad is also slower. I got a 755CD and really only miss the MWAVE stuff not working in Linux. I also have a problem with my PCMCIA ethernet card when I have the CD-ROM drive in (the net card stops working). I can mount CD's and such though from Linux so I'm happy about that! > In X, be sure to use a virtual screen (defined in XFConfig). You'll really > miss the higher resolution otherwise. I miss the higher res. Can use an external monitor for 1024x768 res though. > Overall, my 755CE performs at an almost identical clip to my Sun SS10/41. > For cache intensive stuff, the 1MB cache of the 41 can't be beat, but > for basic computing they are both qualitatively and quantitatively similar. > > Cheers, > Eugene Fiume. +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 7 19:47:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13553; Sun, 7 May 95 19:47:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29520; Sun, 7 May 1995 19:26:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 7 May 1995 19:26:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from aaRS.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA29507; Sun, 7 May 1995 19:26:30 -0400 Received: by aaRS.mit.edu (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA13085; Sun, 7 May 95 19:26:33 -0400 From: "Arturo J. Morales" Message-Id: <9505071926.ZM13083@aaRS.mit.edu> Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 19:26:32 -0400 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Warp: What do I need? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Ok, after having an extraordinary amount of fun installing and running linux on my 750Cs, I have come to the realization that i need to actually do work :) Therefore, I need to install either NT, Warp or (yikes!...) Windows in order to run some of the applications relevant to my research... So here are my questions: -What kind of extra drivers do i need in order to run Warp on my 'pad? I remember using some utility disks for 2.1 but i have no idea about which ones to use for Warp...Is there a FAQ? (updated) -I need to be able to compile C code on my system, I did use gcc at one point with minor complaints (besides a 30+ meg swap file during compiling :) However, I also need to be able to port (flawlessly) my code to Unix (There are no graphics, so it should be fairly easy (i hope)) Has anyone used any other compilers? I had very bad experiences with older releases of Bordland C++ and would like your opinions... -One last point, due to the fact that I'm but a lowly grad student, I only have 8 megs of RAM and 170 HD. Is it better for OS/2 to get more HD or more RAM? I know the answer is both, but what if you were forced to decide? Thanks in advance... Art -- Arturo J. Morales (RPI '94) | art@aars.mit.edu Department of Biology | Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology http://minihelix.mit.edu/top.html | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "That Person you see in the Mirror is made up of D-Amino Acids" --C.P. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 7 20:21:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28318; Sun, 7 May 95 20:21:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00977; Sun, 7 May 1995 19:58:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 7 May 1995 19:58:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mindvox.phantom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA00967; Sun, 7 May 1995 19:58:27 -0400 Received: (from alster@localhost) by mindvox.phantom.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) id TAA18482 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU; Sun, 7 May 1995 19:53:56 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: re: chameleon problem (solved) From: alster@phantom.com (taoster) Comments: ? Message-Id: Date: Sun, 07 May 95 19:53:15 EDT Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) The silly Chameleon problem ...had to set the config at 57600 instead of 115200 ...that's so silly... thanks http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 7 21:11:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA01486; Sun, 7 May 95 21:11:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03169; Sun, 7 May 1995 20:49:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 7 May 1995 20:49:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA03138; Sun, 7 May 1995 20:48:58 -0400 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00339; Sun, 7 May 95 20:40:09 -0400 Received: by slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0um) id AA0035; Sun, 07 May 95 20:39:58 -0400 Date: Sun, 07 May 95 20:39:58 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Message-Id: <9505080039.AA0035@slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu> To: art@aaRS.mit.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Sun, 7 May 1995 19:26:32 -0400 from "Arturo J. Morales" Subject: Warp: What do I need? From: "Arturo J. Morales" Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 19:26:32 -0400 -What kind of extra drivers do i need in order to run Warp on my 'pad? I remember using some utility disks for 2.1 but i have no idea about which ones to use for Warp...Is there a FAQ? (updated) The drivers that Warp has built-in, while not perfect, do work acceptably. The only other thing you would need is the ThinkPad features programs from the ThinkPad Utility diskette, e.g. the Fuel program, Power program, etc. -I need to be able to compile C code on my system, I did use gcc at one point with minor complaints (besides a 30+ meg swap file during compiling :) However, I also need to be able to port (flawlessly) my code to Unix (There are no graphics, so it should be fairly easy (i hope)) Has anyone used any other compilers? I had very bad experiences with older releases of Bordland C++ and would like your opinions... I've used both GCC/2 and IBM C Set++. GCC/2 works OK but lacks debugging support. I also understand that the project has been discontinued. IBM C Set++ works very well, but is expensive ($250). I understand that many people use EMX GCC, which is probably the best choice if you want the maximum unix compatibility. I haven't tried it. -One last point, due to the fact that I'm but a lowly grad student, I only have 8 megs of RAM and 170 HD. Is it better for OS/2 to get more HD or more RAM? I know the answer is both, but what if you were forced to decide? I'd suggest more RAM. RAM is the single most important factor for good performance in Warp. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 7 23:55:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00542; Sun, 7 May 95 23:55:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13667; Sun, 7 May 1995 23:35:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 7 May 1995 23:35:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13641; Sun, 7 May 1995 23:35:39 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA01608; Sun, 7 May 95 23:36:25 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 May 95 23:36:25 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505080336.AA01608@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: art@aars.mit.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Warp: What do I need? it is easy to install WARP on OS/2, you don't absolutely need the utility diskette with the thinkpad features, but it is nice to have for the battery program and control over power. I would up the memory to 16 megs as the first order of business, but you can certainly get going with 8 megs. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 8 00:22:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21968; Mon, 8 May 95 00:22:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15534; Mon, 8 May 1995 00:03:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 8 May 1995 00:03:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA15523; Mon, 8 May 1995 00:03:35 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA02674; Mon, 8 May 95 00:04:21 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 May 95 00:04:21 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505080404.AA02674@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: art@aars.mit.edu, dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 32 meg DIMS trying once more for information, I am sure I remember seeing that 32 meg DIMS were available for the 755, allowing a max of > 64 meg memory. Am I imagining things? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Mon May 8 02:52:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00540; Mon, 8 May 95 02:52:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA19901; Mon, 8 May 1995 01:24:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 8 May 1995 01:24:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA19888; Mon, 8 May 1995 01:24:05 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA01659; Sun, 7 May 95 23:37:37 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 May 95 23:37:37 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505080337.AA01659@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: art@aars.mit.edu, cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu Subject: Re: Warp: What do I need? Cc: tp750@cs.utk.edu EMX GCC works very nicely, and GDB also works fine. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 8 11:16:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08714; Mon, 8 May 95 11:16:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05929; Mon, 8 May 1995 10:30:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 8 May 1995 10:30:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dns004.ford.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA05894; Mon, 8 May 1995 10:30:34 -0400 Received: from mailhost.fsic.ford.com (hpuxsrve.fsic.ford.com [19.88.32.29]) by dns004.ford.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA07612 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 10:30:25 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mailhost.fsic.ford.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA24709 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 8 May 1995 10:30:39 -0400 From: "Adam Wilkinson" Message-Id: <9505081030.ZM24706@hpuxsrve.fsic.ford.com> Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 10:30:39 -0400 Received: from sun1 by mailhost.fsic.ford.com (8.6.9/FORDHUB-0.1) id KAA24653; Mon, 8 May 1995 10:30:36 -0400 Received: from ren0010.so.ford.com by sun1 (5.0/FORDCLIENT-0.1) id AA03565; Mon, 8 May 1995 10:22:08 +0500 Received: from REN0010/PMAIL by ren0010.so.ford.com (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 8 May 95 10:29:49 +1100 Received: from PMAIL by REN0010 (Mercury 1.11); Mon, 8 May 95 10:29:33 +1100 To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar), TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: OS2 backup to DAT tape? Reply-To: awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com X-Confirm-Reading-To: awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 07feb95) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Date: Fri, 5 May 95 16:53:24 -0400 > From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) > To: ballagh@maxwell.otago.ac.nz, whittle@chaph.usc.edu > Subject: Re: OS2 backup to DAT tape? > Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU > are the reference diskettes (utility disk and driver disk) for the 755CD > available online somewhere (the 755CD is just bought is missing these > disks GRRRR!) > ftp://ftp.pcco.ibm.com/pub/mobiles -- Adam Lee Wilkinson Portable Computing Technology Specialist Ford Motor Co. - Marketing & Sales Systems awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 8 12:46:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12144; Mon, 8 May 95 12:46:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16436; Mon, 8 May 1995 12:31:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 8 May 1995 12:31:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16414; Mon, 8 May 1995 12:31:21 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id LAA01634 for ; Mon, 8 May 1995 11:31:11 -0500 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:31:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199505081631.LAA01634@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: SOLUTION: modem and soundcard >Gary E. Moore writes - > >> I just received a Thinkpad 755CD...my mis department, in setting up the >> machine, tells me that I can use the modem or the soundcard but not both at >> the same time...that sounds a bit odd to me....does anyone have any >> experience with this? > >Yes, this is true, unlesss you want to go 2400 on the modem. Any faster >and there's not enough of the Mwave DSP capacity left for both. On the >other hand, the Mwave modem has an unusally large latency (650ms with the >shipped software, drops to 600ms with the newest from ftp.pcco.ibm.com) >so probably you'll be happier with a PCMCIA modem anyway. > > no, this is not the case. you _can_ have the MWAVE modem going at 14,000 *and* have sound at the same time. trust me; i use the Internet Phone on my thinkpad 755CE this way. the trick is (at least to get Iphone to work with the modem at 14.4Kbaud) to go to the control panel and click on "Mwave Audio". Then click on options, then choose the "Audio/Image Sync" option. This option gives slightly more DSP resources to the .wav player and things are happy. I also play sound files off of the World Wide Web while connected via modem with no problems. note that although you *can* have 14.4 modem and .wav audio (i.e. digitized audio) at the same time, you *cannot* have MIDI sound as well without shutting down the modem. in order to have MIDI synthesis, you cannot be running either the modem or telephony stuff at the same time. since MIDI needs to be "by itself" anyway, it makes good sense to set all the MIDI stuff to the hightest quality sound (i.e. use up all the DSP). to do this (in windows at least) go to the mwave utils group and choose "select synthesizer" and choose "32 voice synthesizer". then go to the control panel, choose the MIDI mapper applet, and select setup "Mwave Ext. GM". doing this will result in noticiable better MIDI sound, especially on MIDI files with lots of instruments (quite decent actually, except maybe the drum patches are a somewhat lacking). considering most other "multimedia" notebooks only offer .wav sound to begin with (or pathetic FM synth MIDI which sounds like crap), I do not consider this a major shortcoming. of course, if you want to run something other than Windows or OS/2 (like Linux or even currently Win NT), the whole MWAVE appears to be useless... (in my opinion there at LEAST should be Win NT drivers!!!) -Todd =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Todd Tannenbaum email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu Director of the Model Advanced Facility voice phone: (608) 262-3118 Computer-Aided Engineering Center FAX phone: (608) 265-4546 University of Wisconsin-Madison From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 8 20:03:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13988; Mon, 8 May 95 20:03:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17367; Mon, 8 May 1995 19:43:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 8 May 1995 19:43:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17356; Mon, 8 May 1995 19:43:36 -0400 From: Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA208486574; Mon, 8 May 1995 19:42:55 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 19:42:55 -0400 Message-Id: <950508193300_111503350@aol.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Win 95 on TP 755ce I currently own a 755c that is running win 95 without any problems. Soon I will be installing win 95 on my 755ce. I recall reading some posts earlier about problems associated with win 95 and the mwave dsp that are in the ce and cd series thinkpads. If anyone has encountered such problems, please repost them and the solution (if any). Also, please post any other problems with installing win 95 on a 755ce thinkpad. Thanks, Dennis From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 9 08:13:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28882; Tue, 9 May 95 08:13:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21906; Tue, 9 May 1995 08:03:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 9 May 1995 08:03:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21896; Tue, 9 May 1995 08:03:11 -0400 Received: from lorax.vmedia.com by vmedia.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id AA06667; Tue, 9 May 1995 07:58:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 May 95 08:01:37 EDT From: "Gary E. Moore" Sender: Gary@lorax.vmedia.com Subject: 755CD LCD resolution To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is the 755CD's LCD screen limited to 640x480? I know it will display lots of colors but better resolution would be nice. -------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Moore Ventana Communications Group gary@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/gary -------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 9 08:48:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00254; Tue, 9 May 95 08:48:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA23608; Tue, 9 May 1995 08:39:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 9 May 1995 08:39:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA23596; Tue, 9 May 1995 08:39:29 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA15365; Tue, 9 May 95 08:40:17 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 May 95 08:40:17 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505091240.AA15365@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, gary@vmedia.com Subject: Re: 755CD LCD resolution 755CD is still 640x480. As far as I know the only higher resolution TFT is the one on the high end NEC. It is a *very* nice screen, and I think I would have bought a NEC over a TP if it were not for the totally unusable trackball on the front of the case on the Versa (which is a shame, since NEC does use a trackpoint equivelent on some of their machines). NEC uses this high res TFT only in their own machines. The 755CD does have a pan and scan driver for high res, and does indeed support 16-bit color. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 9 09:05:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00510; Tue, 9 May 95 09:05:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24626; Tue, 9 May 1995 08:56:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 9 May 1995 08:56:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from acg60.wfunet.wfu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA24609; Tue, 9 May 1995 08:56:37 -0400 Received: (from riddlera@localhost) by acg60.wfunet.wfu.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) id IAA08721; Tue, 9 May 1995 08:56:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 08:56:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Randy A. Riddle" X-Sender: riddlera@acg60.wfunet.wfu.edu To: Dennis774@aol.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Win 95 on TP 755ce In-Reply-To: <950508193300_111503350@aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Also, has anyone gotten Win 95 to recognize a PCM CD-ROM drive? I have the new portable drive from Panasonic and tried to install it on a 755 and a 360, but it was a no-go -- using Win 95's "add hardware" feature or card services didn't work and it choked on the driver supplied by Panasonic. I installed the drive on my 340 running Win 3.1 with no problem, using the installation disk supplied by Panasonic. Randy A. Riddle riddlera@wfu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 9 09:15:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03763; Tue, 9 May 95 09:15:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24970; Tue, 9 May 1995 09:04:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 9 May 1995 09:04:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA24955; Tue, 9 May 1995 09:04:35 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144278>; Tue, 9 May 1995 09:04:24 -0400 In-Reply-To: jesse montrose's message as of May 6, 3:53am X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755Cs/LINUX Slackware 2.2.0 Installation Message-Id: <95May9.090424edt.144278@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 09:04:24 -0400 Someone asked about the "null modem" twisted pair cable for a direct (say) ThinkPad-UnixBox connection. I misplaced the sender's address so I'll post here. This is from the FAQ on ethernet. 03.11Q: Can I connect the 10BaseT interface of two devices directly together, without using a hub? A: Yes, but not more than 2 devices, and you also need a special jumper cable between the two 10BaseT ports: RJ45 pin RJ45 pin ======== ======== 1 <--[TX+]--------[RX+]--> 3 2 <--[TX-]--------[RX-]--> 6 3 <--[RX+]--------[TX+]--> 1 6 <--[RX-]--------[TX-]--> 2 One of our technicians put it together for me it about three minutes and it works very well. Another thing, if you are connecting to a Sun, be sure to not disable the link-test (on the Sun). Yes, it's a silly thing to do, but I did it a long time ago because I didn't want to keep seeing some even sillier start-up messages at boot time. And I never dreamt I'd want an ethernet at on my "standalone" workstation. Cheers, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 9 11:47:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12428; Tue, 9 May 95 11:47:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06309; Tue, 9 May 1995 11:34:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 9 May 1995 11:34:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from aaRS.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06295; Tue, 9 May 1995 11:34:23 -0400 Received: by aaRS.mit.edu (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA19675; Tue, 9 May 95 11:34:28 -0400 From: "Arturo J. Morales" Message-Id: <9505091134.ZM19673@aaRS.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 11:34:28 -0400 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Warp: one more question... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 First of all, thanks for all the answers! it sounds like I better get more memory in order to be happy, but some people also recomended a bigger HD... Decisions, decisions... My lab has three different networks going around and All the printers are being shared through Etherlink and AppleTalk... I would love to use Ethernet to talk to them and the file serves, but i'm afraid that I'm too far from the nearest station and we might run into problems with signal loss if we don't get a retransmitter. My question is, then, can I connect to the appletalk net? I don't really want to, but it might be my only choice :) Thanks again! Art -- Arturo J. Morales (RPI '94) | art@aars.mit.edu Department of Biology | Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology http://minihelix.mit.edu/top.html | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "That Person you see in the Mirror is made up of D-Amino Acids" --C.P. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 9 13:58:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20863; Tue, 9 May 95 13:58:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15783; Tue, 9 May 1995 13:29:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 9 May 1995 13:29:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15771; Tue, 9 May 1995 13:29:05 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA13541 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Tue, 9 May 1995 13:28:55 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA28133; Tue, 9 May 1995 13:28:37 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 13:28:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: New Model: 755CV Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The ultimate Notebook for making presentations: IBM ThinkPad 755CV Features Overhead Projection Capability Announced on May 9, 1995 HARDWARE Announcement 195-133 In Brief . . . Just think of displaying information from your notebook LCD directly on an overhead projection screen. Other key reasons to consider the ThinkPad 755CV include: o VGA resolution with 64K color support o A fast IntelDX4-100MHz processor o Large capacity hard disk of 540MB* standard, or optional 810MB or 1.2GB* hard disk o 8MB standard memory expandable to 40MB o Infrared wireless file and data transfer, plus IR Mind Path Remote Control o SelectaSystem capability for choosing from preinstalled operating systems: OS/2 Warp 3.0, IBM PC DOS 7, and Windows 3.11 o Programmable Mwave(R) digital signal processor (DSP) subsystem for audio, games, music, data/fax modem, and telephony (answering machine/speakerphone) Technical Support o ThinkPad Easy Serv warranty o International Warranty Service o HelpCenter(R) (800-772-2227) o ThinkPad Proven(TM) * MB = million bytes and GB = 1000 million bytes when referring to hard disk. ---------------------------- To make a presentation, you no longer have to carry transparencies or a costly attachment for your computer. The ThinkPad(R) 755CV has a new, innovative LCD display that highlights the 755CV system. By removing the cover on the LCD, the LCD becomes transparent. When the system and its still-attached transparent LCD is placed on an overhead projector, information on the LCD is directly displayed on the projection screen. The ThinkPad 755CV is equipped with a wireless remote controller, which uses the IR capability of the system, and advanced presentation software that help you generate impressive presentations and navigate through them. For example, with a touch of a button on a remote controller, you can magnify, spotlight, or highlight the screen to emphasize important information. A ThinkPad 755CV system combined with any one of the four IBM docking solutions can easily become your primary personal computer, providing an alternative to a desktop system unit. Even without the docking solution, the ThinkPad 755CV easily serves as a primary system with its large color display, high-capacity hard disk, large RAM capability, local bus video, high-performance microprocessor, and two Type II or one Type III PCMCIA slots. Host connectivity is attained with PCMCIA cards. SelectaSystem(TM) allows you to choose between DOS, Windows+, or OS/2(R) Warp operating systems. If you choose to use OS/2 Warp, you can run multiple DOS, Windows+, and OS/2 applications at the same time without conflict. Plus, you can take advantage of the BonusPak applications that come with OS/2 Warp, including IBM Works -- an Internet access kit with everything you need to travel the information superhighway via the IBM Global Network. The ThinkPad Pentium Upgrade (755CE/CSE) optional features allow you to upgrade the 755CV system processor from the IntelDX4**-100MHz to the Intel** Pentium** 75MHz processor for increased performance. Single Unit Price: $6,799 Planned Availability Date: May 31, 1995 (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation (TM) Trademark of International Business Machines Corporation + Trademark of Microsoft Corporation ** Company, product, or service name may be a trademark or service mark of others. DESCRIPTION Everything you need to make a quality presentation is neatly packaged in a compact 6.5 pound notebook. By removing the black cover from the back of the display panel, the panel becomes transparent. By opening the panel to 180 degrees and placing the system on an overhead projector, you can display images just as they appear on your ThinkPad screen -- in over 64,000 colors. IBM ThinkPad 755CV at a Glance o IntelDX4-100MHz processor o Large memory capacity (8MB to 40MB using DIMM memory modules and the Memory Module Adapter) o High-capacity hard disks: 540MB standard; 810MB or 1.2GB optional o NiMH battery pack (optional LI-Ion battery pack) o Local bus video with acceleration o Mwave(R) DSP subsystem o 14.4K Kbps data/fax modem o Built-in microphone and speaker o Dial volume control o Infrared (IR) o TrackPoint III o Full complement of ports for peripheral connections o 240-pin docking connector o Removable 1.44MB floppy diskette drive o Type III PCMCIA slot o Large 10.4-inch (maximum viewable area when measured diagonally) active matrix display (640 x 480 resolution VGA) o Preinstalled software: OS/2 Warp 3.0 with BonusPak applications, PC DOS 7, and Windows 3.11 operating systems preinstalled with SelectaSystem capability, plus a suite of applications preinstalled for the user to choose from o Onscreen electronic personalization o Compatibility with 755CE, 755CSE, and 755CD ThinkPad systems and IBM docking options These ThinkPad 755CV advanced-function models bring you innovative technology, instant productivity with preinstalled software, and outstanding service and support. ThinkPad 755CV Features LCD Display: This model has the 10.4-inch (maximum viewable area when measured diagonally) Thin Film Transistor (TFT) with VGA resolution. These are bright Active Matrix displays. The TFT display provides superior viewing capability and lessens the glare indoors. With the 755CV, IBM introduces new LCD technology providing data projection capability. By removing the LCD cover and putting the computer on an overhead projector, information on the LCD screen is projected on a larger screen. When the LCD cover is installed, this LCD serves as a regular IBM 10.4-inch (maximum viewable area when measured diagonally) Thin Film Transistor (TFT) screen. With the appropriate display driver installed, up to 65,536 simultaneous colors can be displayed. Depending on work surface area of the overhead projector and/or projection-table design, it might be difficult to put the 755CD on the overhead projector so that information is projected right-side-up. It is possible to rotate information on the LCD screen by using a video driver setup. Information can be projected right-side-up by rotating information on the LCD, and putting the ThinkPad on the overhead projector on the side with more space on it. This rotate function is supported for Windows. OS/2 Warp Version 3 support for a rotate video driver will be available during 1995. Processor: At the heart of this system is the IntelDX4-100MHz processor with an internal cache of 16KB and floating-point processor providing exceptional performance. Also available are the IBM ThinkPad Pentium 75MHz Upgrade options for the 755CV system. Memory: This system is designed to use parity memory. The system comes standard with 8MB RAM, upgradeable to a total of 40MB using DIMM memory modules with the Memory Module Adapter. The system memory can exceed 24MB when using IC DRAM cards that are larger than 16MB. This high-capacity and fast memory (70ns) can handle almost any application the mobile professional may have to execute. PCMCIA: The Type III slot can accommodate either two Type I, or two Type II, or one Type III PC card. If additional PCMCIA cards are required, the optional ThinkPad PCMCIA cartridge can be placed in the ThinkPad 755CV ThinkPad UltraBay(TM) providing an additional Type III slot. The ThinkPad UltraBay not only can accommodate this option, but it can also house the optional 2.88MB diskette drive (FDD) and CDPD mobile communications module. IBM PC Card Director software is preinstalled and provides support for the latest PCMCIA standard, 2.1. This software enables many PCMCIA cards, allowing the user to simply plug in the card. PC Card Director with Auto Configurator and Memory Device Driver: PC Card Director helps you get status and information on PCMCIA cards installed in the system. In addition, on OS/2 and on Microsoft** Windows, PC Card Director can register an application program for PCMCIA cards and execute them automatically. Auto Configurator and Memory Device Driver enables supported PCMCIA cards by sensing them automatically. Supported PCMCIA cards by Auto Configurator and Memory Device Driver are listed in the Devices Supported section. Keyboard and TrackPoint III: The keyboard has the familiar ThinkPad layout with a function key capability allowing you to quickly access system functions, like power management control. The keyboard lifts up allowing access to the FDD bay, HDD bay, and battery for quick upgrades or battery changes. The TrackPoint III is an enhanced TrackPoint II with improved non-slip TrackPoint cap and more accurate pointing capability through improved software. The "drag and drop" function of the click buttons is enhanced. You can lock and hold the buttons in without having to keep pushing on them. Storage: The customer-installable hard drive is 540MB standard. Optional 810MB or 1.2GB hard drives are available. The drive is easily removed by lifting up the keyboard. You can have multiple "systems" simply by installing a different hard drive. Systems can also be shared by users who have their own hard drive but no ThinkPad system unit. A 1.44MB FDD drive comes standard. The ThinkPad UltraBay, also standard with the system, is an intelligent bay that switches its pinout signals to allow the installation of an FDD or PCMCIA cartridge in what would normally be just the floppy diskette drive bay. IBM Mwave Digital Signal Processor (DSP): The Mwave MDSP2780 operates at up to 60 million operations per second for integrating audio, games, music, data/fax modem, and telephony into a DSP. Features and benefits include: o 44.1KHz MPC-2 16-bit audio with real-time compression o Simultaneous audio play and record o Digital audio mixing with up to eight open .WAV sources o General MIDI compatible, 32-voice wavetable synthesizer o Sound Blaster** support o 14.4 Kbps data/fax modem o Full-featured telephone - Answering machine with variable speed message playback and voice compression - Hands-free, full-duplex speakerphone Features set can be enhanced simply by upgrading the DSP software. Audio: The audio capability on the system board (DSP) and the integrated microphone allow voice annotation and audio capability. The system is equipped with audio in/out jacks for stereo speakers/headphone and external microphone. A separate dial volume control is located to the rear of the keyboard on the system. Infrared (IR): The use of IR has been greatly enhanced by the incorporation of Mind Path Presentation F/X Pro software on all models and the inclusion of the IR Mind Path** Remote Control with the 755CV. This combination of Mind Path products on the 755CV allows the system to be controlled remotely, through the use of the wireless IR capability during presentations. It also enables the use of effects such as magnify, spotlight, and telestrator to be added to the screen during presentations. The system has IR transceivers in front and back for wireless file and data transfer. The ThinkPad 755CV is designed for compliance with the IrDA (Infrared Data Association) IR data link specification Version 1.0. The system supports three modes of operation: o IBM mode (from 57.6 Kbps to 1.15 Mbps) o HP** mode (from 9600 bps to 115 Kbps) o Sharp** mode (9600 bps) Preinstalled software provides wireless file transfer, file synchronization, and clip board data transfer. With the infrared feature, data can be exchanged with the following systems by using the vendor software packages listed below: System Software Omnibook 300** LapLink Remote Access** HP 100LX** Connectivity Pack for the HP 100LX** Sharp Wizard** PC interface software, 9000 Link for PCs OZ-990(W)** When using the infrared feature to communicate with this system, the communications distance may be shorter than when communicating with another ThinkPad 755CE, 755CSE, 755CD, or 755CV, depending on the capabilities of the other systems. The ThinkPad 755CV is shipped with the IR Mind Path Model 55 wireless remote controller kit and Presentation F/X Pro software. The remote mouse controller communicates with ThinkPad native IR ports (115 Kbps modulation). The remote controller has mouse disk and click buttons to provide full mouse-compatible movement and clicking operation. Special buttons of the remote controller are useful to perform special effects, such as highlight, magnify, and spotlight on projected presentation. Special effects are performed by Presentation F/X Pro software preloaded on the hard disk drive. It is possible to change the selection of effects and characteristics by using the setup screen of the Presentation F/X Pro software. At time of shipment, mouse function is supported for DOS, Windows, and OS/2. Special effect by the Presentation F/X Pro is supported for Windows. Presentation F/X Pro upgrade to the OS/2 is presented by the Mind Path Technologies, Dallas, Texas. For more details, call 214-233-9296 for customer support sponsored by the Mind Path Technologies. Warranty service for the Mind Path Remote Controller is provided by Mind Path Technologies and is a customer-direct return item. Refer to the information included in the 755CV shipping carton, or contact Mind Path Technologies at the above number. Video: The system has the VESA local bus support with video acceleration, providing exceptional video performance. Other Features: The use of system memory by BIOS, for example, is significantly reduced. BIOS uses 96KB of system memory (video, 32KB; all other, 64KB). The system has the full complement of ports (enhanced parallel port, SVGA, pointer-keyboard, serial). In addition, a 240-pin connector supports the four IBM docking solutions: o Dock I -- portable docking with a slot and bay o Dock II -- desktop docking with slots, bays, and PCMCIA slots o Port Replicator I -- cable manager with a Type III PCMCIA slot or Type II PCMCIA slots o Port Replicator II -- cable manager only An RJ11 jack is also included because the DSP provides data/fax modem capability with speeds up to 14.4 Kbps. New Options for ThinkPad 755CV The ThinkPad 755CV system supports most of the options that were announced with the IBM ThinkPad 755CX, 755CD, 755CE, and 755CSE systems. PRODUCT POSITIONING The ThinkPad 755CV system is positioned as one of the highest full-function notebook computers in IBM's family of mobile portable systems. PUBLICATIONS The IBM ThinkPad 755CV User's Guide is shipped with the product. The following publications and diskettes will be available for separate purchase on May 31, 1995. To order, call the IBM Software Manufacturing Solution Hotline at 800-879-2755. Order Part Publication Number Number IBM ThinkPad Technical Reference 755CX/CV S19H-1158 30H1652 IBM ThinkPad 755CV User's Guide S30H-1653 30H1653 IBM ThinkPad 755CV Diskettes Group (1) S30H-1654 30H1654 Order Part Publication Number Number IBM ThinkPad 755 MWave DSP Diskettes (2) S30H-1734 30H1734 IBM ThinkPad Maintenance Diskette S82G-3891 82G3891 IBM ThinkPad 755CV Brochure G221-4392 The diskette group contains the following: o IBM ThinkPad Utility Diskette (1) o IBM ThinkPad PCMCIA Features Diskette (1) o IBM ThinkPad Video Features Diskette (1) o IBM ThinkPad Infrared Features Diskette (1) o IBM ThinkPad Mwave DSP Features Diskettes (2) The Technical Reference is for programmers, engineers, and others who want to understand the ThinkPad 755CV system unit in greater detail. The publication includes functional specifications, hardware specifications, and pinouts for peripheral connectors. Service Publications (manuals and diskettes) Order Part Publication Number Number Hardware Maintenance Manual Volume 2: ThinkPad Computers S82G-1502 30H2357 Hardware Maintenance Diskette S82G-3891 82G3891 The Hardware Maintenance Manual contains service and reference information for IBM ThinkPad computers. The service section includes procedures for isolating problems to a field replaceable unit (FRU), related service procedures, and an illustrated parts catalog. The reference section includes safety information, product description, and general information about system functions. Publications can be ordered from an IBM Authorized Dealer, an IBM representative, or through the Technical Directory. A complete listing of IBM ThinkPad and IBM personal computer hardware publications is available by calling the Technical Directory at 800-IBM-PCTB (426-7282). TECHNICAL INFORMATION Specified Operating Environment Standard Battery Shipped with the 755CV: The NiMH battery's approximate operation hours and charging hours are: Function Hours Power off/suspend charging 1.2 Charging during operation 1.7 Travel Quick charger 2.0-3.0 Battery operation (range)(1) 3.3-10.0 Optional Feature Battery Pack: The optional Li-Ion battery's approximate operation hours and charging hours are: Function Hours Power off/suspend charging 1.5 to 2.0 Charging during operation 2.0 to 2.5 Quick charging 2.0 to 3.0 Battery operation (range)(1) 4.1 to 12.0 (1) Power management and application dependent. The operating time depends on the options used with the computer, the frequency of key input, applications, and the configuration of the system. It may be shorter or longer than the hours mentioned above. Physical Specifications o Width: 297.0 mm (11.70 in.) o Depth: 210.0 mm (8.30 in.) o Height: 49.8 mm (1.96 in.) o Weight: 3.0 Kg (6.55 lb) with battery pack and diskette drive o Battery -- Li-Ion: 400 g (0.88 lb) o Battery -- NiMH: 540 g (1.19 lb) o Diskette drive: 213 g (0.47 lb) Electrical Specifications o Universal AC adapter: 100-240 V AC, 2.0A, 50/60Hz o Battery pack (Li-Ion): 10.8 V, 2.8AH, 710mAH/cell, 12 cell/pack o Battery pack (NiMH): 8.4 V, 3.5AH, 1800mAH/cell, 14 cell/pack Heat Dissipation o 136 Btu/hr maximum Air Temperature for Shipping and Storage o -20(degs)C to 60(degs)C (-4(degs)F to 140(degs)F) Relative Humidity for Shipping and Storage o 5% to 95% RH Acoustic Noise Level: Class 3D (office environment) o Sound pressure level (operator position): 40 dB (operating) o Sound power level: 5.1 Bels (operating); 4.8 Bels (idling) Note: The noise emission level stated is the declared (upper limit) sound power level, in Bels, for a random sample of machines, typically configured, and operating in idle mode; for example, powered on, but no DASD read/write or other I/O activity. All measurements made in accordance with ANSI S12.10, and reported in conformance with ISO 9296. Operating Environment Air temperature: 0 -- 8,000 ft o Operating: 5(degs)C to 35(degs)C (41(degs)F to 95(degs)F) (without diskette) o Operating: 10(degs)C to 35(degs)C (50(degs)F to 95(degs)F) (with diskette inside unit) o System off: 5(degs)C to 43(degs)C (41(degs)F to 110(degs)F) o Storage/shipment: -20(degs)C to 60(degs)C (-4(degs)F to 140(degs)F) o Wet bulb (maximum): 29.4(degs)C (85(degs)F) Air Temperature: 8,000 -- 10,000 ft o Operating: 5(degs)C to 31.3(degs)C (41(degs)F to 88(degs)F) (without diskette) o Operating: 10(degs) to 31.3(degs)C (50(degs)F to 88(degs)F) (with diskette inside unit) o System off: 5(degs)C to 43(degs)C (41(degs)F to 110(degs)F) o Storage/shipment: -20(degs)C to 60(degs)C (-4(degs)F to 140(degs)F) o Wet bulb (maximum): 25.7(degs)C (78(degs)F) Note: The maximum temperature when the system is on is linearly decreased from 8,000 ft to 10,000 ft. Overhead Projection: The ambient temperature when using the 755CV on an overhead projector should be within the following range: 0 -- 8,000 (ft) o Without diskette operation -- 5(degs)C to 30(degs)C (41(degs)F to 86(degs)F) o With diskette operation -- 10(degs)C to 30(degs)C (50(degs)F to 86(degs)F) 8,000 -- 10,000 (ft) o Without diskette operation -- 5(degs)C to 26.3(degs)C (41(degs)F to 79(degs)F) o With diskette operation -- 10(degs)C to 26.3(degs)C (50(degs)F to 79(degs)F) Relative Humidity o Operating: 8% to 95% RH (without diskette) o Operating: 8% to 80% RH (with diskette inside unit) o Storage/shipment: 5% to 95% RH Altitude o 10,000 ft maximum (3,048 meters) Agency Approvals o System Unit Approvals - FCC Class-B Certified to comply with FCC Rules, Part 15 FCC ID is ANO9545E - VCCI CLASS 2 (0 dB) - CISPR22B - UL-1950 - CSA C22.2 No. 950 - SEMKO - NEMKO - NOM - DEMKO - SETI - UK-PTT - JATE - SASO o AC/DC Adapter Approvals - UL-1950 - CSA-C22.2 No. 223 - SEMKO - NEMKO - DEMKO - SETI - SA - SEV - OVE - DENTORI - NOM Software Requirements: The following operating systems support the ThinkPad 755CV. Refer to the Limitations section for support issues unique to each operating system. o IBM PC DOS 7, J6.3/V o IBM OS/2 Warp Version 3 o IBM OS/2 Warp, Japanese Version 3.0 o IBM OS/2 2.11 o MS-DOS 6.22 o Microsoft Windows 3.11/J3.1 o Microsoft Windows for Workgroups 3.11 Systems software supported includes: o IBM OS/2 LAN Server Entry Version 4.0(2) o IBM OS/2 LAN Server Advanced Version 4.0(2) o IBM Communications Manager/2 Version 1.1 o IBM Database/2 OS/2 Version 1.0 (2) Client function portion only was tested. Compatibility and Supported Products Refer to the 9545 Sales Manual pages, or contact your IBM representative, for a complete list of supported features and options and compatible IBM and vendor software. The Sales Manual is updated periodically The ThinkPad 755CV system is designed to be compatible with the PS/2(R). The ThinkPad 755CV system contains BIOS/Easy Setup/Diagnostics in their Flash ROM, and also provides a graphical user interface to set up the system and power management features for OS/2 and Windows users. BIOS provides the hardware instructions and interfaces designed to support the standard features of the ThinkPad 755CV system and to maintain compatibility with many software programs currently operating under DOS and OS/2 on the Personal Computer XT(TM), Personal Computer AT(R), and the PS/2 family. Devices Supported -- PCMCIA: The ThinkPad 755CV system conforms to the PCMCIA PC Card Standard Release 2.01 and the PCMCIA Card and Socket Services Specification Release 2.1, dated July 1993. Other PCMCIA adapters that comply with the PCMCIA PC Card Standard Specification Release 2.01 may also function, but have not been tested by IBM. Feature Part Description Number Number IBM 3270 Emulation Credit Card Adapter 2812 0933315 IBM Token-Ring 16/4 Credit Card Adapter II 8072 0933931 IBM Ethernet Credit Card Adapter II for 10Base-T 3290 0934331 IBM Ethernet Credit Card Adapter II for 10Base-2 3280 0934330 IBM 5250 Emulation PCMCIA Adapter 2808 92F3808 IBM 2.4/9.6 Data/Fax Modem Multipack 87G8988 IBM 14.4/14.4 Data/Fax Modem Multipack 87G8989 IBM RS-232 PCMCIA Serial Card 87G9250 IBM Infrared (IR) Wireless Adapter Tethered Transceiver 87G9740 IBM Infrared (IR) Wireless Adapter Integrated Transceiver 87G9743 IBM Mass Storage Card 5MB 70G7344 IBM Mass Storage Card 10MB 70G7345 IBM Mass Storage Card 15MB 70G7346 IBM 1MB SRAM PCMCIA Memory Card 92G7229 IBM 2MB SRAM PCMCIA Memory Card 92G7230 IBM Solid State File Card 5MB 40G3166 IBM Solid State File Card 10MB 40G3167 IBM Solid State File Card 20MB 40G3168 IBM Solid State File Card 30MB 40G3169 IBM Solid State File Card 40MB 40G3170 IBM 40MB PCMCIA Hard Disk Drive (Type III) 7559 70G8495 IBM 105MB PCMCIA Hard Disk Drive (Type III) 1901 32G4199 Limitations o Movie file (AVI) compressed in Indeo format is not supported under OS/2 Warp Version 3 at this time. Use the media player application in WIN-OS/2(TM) session to play back the movie file. The Indeo AVI file playback by Digital Video fix will be available from the IBM Personal Computer Company Bulletin Board Service (PCC BBS) by June 30, 1995. o The 180-degree rotation function of the video device driver is for 256-color and 640 x 480 resolution only. o DOS programs are not supported by the 180-degree rotation video driver. The 180-degree rotation video driver support is only available when using applications under OS/2 Warp Version 3.0 or Windows 3.11. The 180-degree rotation driver for OS/2 Warp (with or without WIN-OS/2) will be provided through the PCC BBS by calling 919-517-0001. o The OS/2 version of Mind Path Presentation F/X Pro can be obtained by calling Mind Path Technologies, Inc., at 800-736-6830, or the PCC BBS at 919-517-0001. o Either the Mind Path IR remote controller device driver or the IBM IR device driver can be enabled at any time in the Windows SYSTEM.INI file. It is necessary to disable the Mind Path IR remote controller device driver when the ThinkPad IR port, or an application that uses the COM1 port for data transmittal is used as this port by the Mind Path Remote Controller. In the Infrared panel of the Mind Path Presentation F/X Pro setup program, click the "off" button in the Infrared box to disable the IR remote controller and enable the IBM IR driver. To use the remote controller, click on the ThinkPad Internal button. o If the ThinkPad enters suspend mode while a video is playing while using Video for Windows and Presentation F/X Pro and the Mind Path Remote Controller, the ThinkPad may not resume properly. Close the Presentation F/X Pro software prior to suspending the system, if a video is playing. o Some optional features or applications may use the COM1 port. OS/2 Warp Version 3 will not load COM.SYS if the COM1 port is already in use. Only one such feature or application that uses the COM1 (for example, communications or PCMCIA) can be used at a time. For example, the Mind Path IR Remote Controller uses the COM1 port and this controller must be disabled to use another application that also uses COM1. o Some special effects of the Presentation F/X program are not effective during motion pictures and digital video playback that frequently access the video buffer. o A wavy pattern may appear if the lamp circuit noise of certain overhead projectors interferes with the 755CV LCD display. A wavy pattern may appear on the LCD or/and projected information. Use an alternative overhead projector. o Do not use the 755CV on an overhead projector that is specifically designed for very large magnification using extremely bright light source. The high temperature may cause hardware problems. Do not use overhead projectors with greater than 6,000 lumens, or a light source greater than a 575 Watt lamp. (Refer to Using ThinkPad 755CV with Overhead Projector immediately following this section.) o The Warp fixpak XR0W005 is required for audio, modem, and printer support if OS/2 Warp Version 3 needs to be reinstalled. o Fixpak XR_A087 is required for audio, data/fax modem, and telephony functions under OS/2 2.11. Call 800-992-4777 to get these APAR fixes. o The 65,536 color driver is available in OS/2 Warp Version 3.0. The 65,536 color display driver for OS/2 2.11 or OS/2 for Windows can be obtained from the IBM OS/2 Bulletin Board. o Installation of the software update named WIN311.ZIP is required to use WIN-OS/2 session when OS/2 for Windows is used under Windows 3.11. This is currently available on the PCC BBS by calling 919-517-0001. The PCC BBS is available 24 hours a day on a toll-call basis with no access charge to the bulletin board. o When using the redirector feature of the Connectivity Pack for the HP 100LX to exchange data over an infrared link at 115 Kbps, the ThinkPad 755CV should be configured as the requestor. o Telephony and answering machine functions do not support PBX. o Video performance will be reduced when operating under the 64K color mode. o The Mwave MDSP2780 (DSP) does not support cellular phone connection. o The system cannot enter the suspend/hibernation mode when the Sound Blaster emulation mode is enabled in a DOS environment. o IBM Enhanced Mouse (92G7457) cannot be used with TrackPoint III. When using the Enhanced Mouse, TrackPoint III should be disabled. o When the MIDI joystick port is used, it is recommended that the POWER.EXE and FUELDOS.COM be removed from the AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS files. These files may cause intermittent incorrect movement of the joystick. o Continuous use of the HDD drive, such as reading long video files, will impact battery life. o The fifth PCMCIA slot cannot be identified by the IBM PC Card Director memory device driver when installing the IBM ThinkPad PCMCIA Cartridge in the FDD bay of the system unit when the IBM ThinkPad Port Replicator I or ThinkPad Dock II is attached. o The IBM ThinkPad 755CV system has one memory slot per system. - By using 2MB, 4MB, 8MB, or 16MB IC DRAM optional feature cards, up to 24MB of system memory is possible. Larger than 16MB IC DRAM cards may be available from IBM ThinkPad Proven vendors and can be used. - By using DIMM technology, the IBM Memory Module Adapter, and the 4MB, 8MB, or 16MB memory modules, up to 40MB of system memory is possible. o As the audio and communication features share the hardware resource of Mwave DSP, their concurrent usage has some restrictions. For example, when you are using any of the communication features, you cannot use the MIDI audio capability. o The system is designed so that the customer can install or remove the PCMCIA card without turning off the system, if the PCMCIA card supports this function. Refer to the instructions that come with the PCMCIA card. o When installing two Type II PCMCIA communications cards in the PCMCIA slot, there may be some cable interference that allows only one card to be used. o PC Card point enablers may write directly to the hardware, bypassing Socket and Card Services Release 2.1. Writing directly to the hardware may cause problems that cannot be anticipated. Also, point enablers may interfere with client device drivers that do communicate with Socket and Card Services Release 2.1. Additional customer testing in their specific environments is recommended. o PCMCIA diagnostics programs usually do not recognize slot numbers greater than two. To diagnose a suspected faulty card, make sure the PCMCIA card is in one of the PCMCIA slots of the system proper. o "Point enablers" usually do not support slot numbers above two. If using a PCMCIA card with a Point Enabler, make sure that the card is in the slots on the system proper. o A video capture adapter that requires VGA pass-through (video pass-through, VESA bus) is not supported by the 755CV and the IBM Docking stations. o The IBM 8516 Touch Screen Color Display and IBM ThinkPad Space Saver Keyboard require the TrackPoint III to be disabled before connecting it to the connector. To disable the TrackPoint III, follow the instructions provided in the User's Guide. o The IBM Keyboard/Mouse Connector accessory is required when attaching an external keyboard to the system via the external input device port. o Password prompt is not displayed when the computer resumes from "partial" suspend mode while it is attached to the IBM ThinkPad Dock I or Dock II. To operate, you will need to type the correct password. o If the ThinkPad 755CV is used with the IBM ThinkPad Dock I or Dock II, then for the comfort and convenience of the user, the height of the system should be adjusted or an external keyboard should be used. Using the ThinkPad 755CV with Overhead Projector: The ThinkPad 755CV, when used with an overhead projector, can be used in a small to medium size room (that accommodates up to 50 people), on an overhead projector with a light bulb of 400 watts or less or a luminance of up to 3000 lumens. For a large room, an overhead projector with a light bulb of up to 575 watts or 6,000 lumens can be used. If the light bulb is over 575 watts or 6,000 lumens, do not use the 755CV on that projector. The computer may be damaged due to the heat coming from the projector. Refer to the manual supplied with the projector to determine the lumens or check the wattage on the light bulb of the overhead projector. Suspend Mode Operational Considerations o Do not remove or install PC cards during suspend mode. o Suspend mode shuts off power to the PCMCIA sockets. o When using Windows 3.11, ensure that the Advanced Power Management (APM) is installed. o Non-disruptive battery exchange allows the user to put the system in suspend mode and exchange battery packs without any loss of data or function. o During suspend mode, the maximum power output becomes 60mA at 12 V. During suspend mode, PCMCIA cards cannot consume more than 60mA at 12 V. Planning Information Cable Orders: All cables are included with the system. Installability: The ThinkPad 755CV system requires about 20 minutes for installation. Installation includes unpacking, setting up, and powering on the system. Additional time is required to install other memory and other optional features. Problem Determination: If a failure is found at initial installation, an instruction or error code will appear on the screen. The user should note this information and refer to the User's Guide shipped with the system unit. System units that fail at installation or during a power up sequence will automatically go to the system diagnostics to isolate the failing field replaceable unit (FRU), or refer the user to the service representative for the ThinkPad 755CV. The trouble-shooting procedures consist of a power-on self-test, diagnostic tests, and easy-to-follow trouble-shooting charts designed to assist the user in isolating a defective machine element. The failing element can then be replaced or repaired under existing warranty provisions. HelpWare(R) Support: HelpWare is a comprehensive set of offerings that provide you with a full range of service and support options in making your computing experience more productive and enjoyable. As part of our commitment to providing you with the support you require, IBM provides many complimentary HelpWare services during the warranty period of your IBM personal computer. Additional services are available from the HelpWare Support Family. For detailed information on HelpWare, refer to Services Announcement 694-029, dated October 17, 1994, or call the HelpCenter at 800-772-2227. ThinkPad Proven: ThinkPad Proven is an innovative program where IBM is working with a number of industry-leading manufacturers who have tested their products to meet IBM's standards for ThinkPad compatibility and provide warranty and technical support service. The ThinkPad Proven emblem signifies that: o The manufacturer has stated to IBM that it has tested the product to IBM-developed test procedures and assures compliance with ThinkPad compatibility standards. o The product has been approved for use on specific ThinkPad models, which will be listed. o The manufacturer warrants a hardware product for a minimum of three years, a software product for 90 days. Additional information can be found in the ThinkPad Proven brochure. Packaging o 9545-8BJ -- 85G1692 540MB VGA WIN/WARP/Apps Shipment group -- system unit carton contents: o System unit with U.S. English keyboard o AC adapter o Rechargeable battery pack (NiMH battery) o U.S. power cord o 755CV User's Guide o U.S./Canadian warranty statement and FCC statement o ThinkPad envelope group: - Customer registration form - International traveler's hardware warranty booklet - HelpCenter label Plus the following items: o 755CV Product Map o PCMCIA security plate o PCMCIA CONN LID o TrackPoint III Cap (x3) o Adhesive tape eject memory card set o PSTN cable o Wall plug o Mind Path Remote Controller Kit o Strap o Computer stand o DC cable adapter Preinstalled mobile software envelope: o IBM PC DOS 7 English manual (without diskettes) o MS Windows 3.11 English manual (without diskettes) o OS/2 Warp Version 3.0 English manual (without diskettes) o Monologue for Windows publication and diskette Accessories and/or Supplies: The following announced accessories are applicable for the ThinkPad 755CV: Part Accessories Number IBM ThinkPad Carrying Case 59G7970 IBM ThinkPad 750 Key Guard 66G3685 IBM PS/2 Keyboard/Mouse Connector 54G0441 Security, Auditability, and Control Standard Security Features for 9545: The electronic personalization feature is like a name tag on your ThinkPad. Your name, contact address, or phone number can be displayed on the screen when the system is turned on. This personal data is stored in the system non-volatile memory and is displayed with a password prompt. This helps to identify your ThinkPad. Passwords: o A Power-on Password (POP) protects the system from unauthorized use. If a POP is set, the password prompt appears: - Each time the system is turned on. - When the system is returned to normal operation from suspend mode. o A Supervisor Password provides a higher level of security than the POP. The Supervisor Password protects the system functions from being used by unauthorized users and protects the hardware configuration from unauthorized modification. The Supervisor Password prompt appears when the hardware configuration is changed. o A HDD Password (HDP) protects HDD data from unauthorized users. Once HDP is set, data on the HDD cannot be accessed without the correct HDP. Because the HDP is stored in the HDD, the data remains protected even if the HDD is removed to another system. The HDP password prompt appears: - Each time the system is turned on. - When the system is returned to normal operation from suspend mode. o The user can use the hook on the hard disk locking mechanism to leash with a user selected padlock and chain or cable. o The user can attach the Kensington** lock to the keyhole on the side of the computer. This prevents the keyboard from opening and secures the internal devices under the keyboard. User management is responsible for evaluation, selection, and implementation of security features, administrative procedures, and appropriate controls in application systems and communications facilities. TERMS AND CONDITIONS This product is available for purchase under the terms of the IBM Customer Agreement (ICA). IBM Credit Corporation Financing: Term leases and installment payment plans are available for commercial and state and local government customers. Warranty Period o System Hardware (9545): Three years. An optional one-year warranty is available via special bid. o Mind Path** IR55 wireless Remote Control and controller kit: These products are shipped with the 755CV system and are not warranted by IBM; warranty, if any, is as provided by the product supplier. o System Battery: One year. o Optional Features: One year minimum, or the remaining warranty of the system in which the feature is installed. o Media: Three months. o IBM Programs: Three months. o Non-IBM Programs: Not warranted by IBM; warranty if any, is as provided by the program's supplier. Licensing: IBM programs included with ThinkPad 755CV are licensed under the terms and conditions of the IBM Program License Agreement and IBM System Programs License Agreement. A copy of these agreements are included in the documentation that ships with the system. Non-IBM programs are available from IBM as distributed by the program supplier. Terms and conditions of the supplier apply. They are included in their respective program packages in the documentation that ships with the system and are passed on to the customer. Warranty Service ThinkPad EasyServ: Warranty service for the ThinkPad 755CV will be provided by ThinkPad EasyServ. ThinkPad EasyServ is a courier repair service in which the ThinkPad system will be picked up at the customer's location and delivered to an IBM-designated repair location. The repair location will repair the system and return it to the customer. Charges for the courier service will be paid by IBM. If warranty service is required, the customer should call the HelpCenter at 800-772-2227. The HelpCenter will assist the user with problem isolation for both hardware and software. Should a hardware problem be identified, the HelpCenter will arrange for a courier to pickup the system for overnight delivery (where available) to the repair location. Most repairs should be made the same day the system is received at the repair location. Customers should keep the original shipping carton for shipping to the repair location. If the original shipping carton is not available, the courier will deliver a shipping carton and return to pick up the system for delivery to the repair location. International Warranty Service: Customers who travel or need to move products to another country will be able to register the products for IBM International Warranty Service. Upon registering with the International Warranty Service Office (IWSO), IBM will issue an International Warranty Service Certificate that will be honored virtually worldwide, where IBM or IBM resellers sell and service IBM PC products. During the original warranty period, customers will be provided service though the service delivery methods available for their specific IBM system in the servicing country. For more information on IBM International Warranty Service or to register your IBM PC systems, contact IBM at 800-IWS-7426 (497-7426). Refer to Services Announcement 694-028, dated October 17, 1994. Alternative Service o IBM On-site Repair (IOR): On-site service will not be offered. o ThinkPad EasyServ Overnight Repair Option: This service is available for an additional per-incident charge, or via special bid for coverage during the warranty period. Maintenance Service o ThinkPad EasyServ Overnight Repair Option This allows customers whose machines are covered by an IBM ThinkPad EasyServ Maintenance Agreement to upgrade the service to overnight repair for an additional per-incident charge, or via special bid during the agreement period. Customers should call the HelpCenter at 800-772-2227 for information on utilizing this service. o IBM Per Call Service Note: Non-IBM products installed in a ThinkPad 755CV either on Warranty or Maintenance Service may be serviced by IBM. Additional service support charges may apply. IBM Hourly Service Rate Classification: One IBM Warranty Service, Maintenance Service, or IBM Hourly Service may be obtained by calling IBM HelpCenter at 800-772-2227. IBM Hourly Service is available at the applicable rate and terms, including element exchange price, if applicable. Extended Maintenance Option: The 9545 is not eligible for the Extended Maintenance Option under the ICA. A revised Exhibit for Extended Maintenance Option will be available at a later date. Central Facility Maintenance Service (CFMS) Option: The 9545 is an eligible machine for CFMS Option of the ICA. A revised exhibit will be available at a later date. A minimum of six machines is required to be at the central facility before requesting maintenance service. The Additional Maintenance Charge Factor is currently 0.5 hours. The terms and conditions are stated in the Attachment for Central Facility Maintenance Service Option. Product Availability Status: New product available Field Installable Features: Yes Model Conversions: No Customer Setup: Yes Licensed Internal Code: No National Education Price (NEP): A NEP is available under the terms and conditions of the National Education Price List. The NEP price which represents a discount from the single unit purchase price, is not subject to any further discount or allowance. The machine in this announcement is included in the National Education Price List. CHARGES Machine Single Part Type/ Unit Description Number Model Price* IBM ThinkPad 755CV (540MB,DX4-100MHz, OH/P(3)) 85G1692 9545-8BJ $6,799 * The single unit price reflects the purchase price for a single unit acquired from IBM, and is subject to change without notice. This price is for information purposes only, and shall not limit in any way the remarketers' ability to set their own prices for IBM products. (3) OH/P = Overhead viewing/projection capability From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 9 13:58:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20871; Tue, 9 May 95 13:58:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15543; Tue, 9 May 1995 13:25:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 9 May 1995 13:25:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15512; Tue, 9 May 1995 13:25:03 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA13340 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Tue, 9 May 1995 13:24:53 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA17031; Tue, 9 May 1995 13:24:35 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 13:24:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: New Model: TP755CX Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What we've all been waiting for: IBM ThinkPad 755CX Introduces SVGA Display and Pentium Processor Announced on May 9, 1995 HARDWARE Announcement 195-131 With a speedy and powerful 75MHz Intel** Pentium** processor and a new SVGA display, watch the ThinkPad(R) 755CX notebook computer execute the most detailed screen displays, processor-intensive applications and databases, and the widest spreadsheets. The SVGA Black Matrix TFT display gives you 65,536 colors at 800 x 600 resolution. This means more spreadsheet columns on the screen, crisper, sharper display of text and graphics, vibrant color for presentations, and easier viewing of complex images, such as CAD drawings, schematics, and maps. A ThinkPad 755CX system combined with any one of the four IBM docking solutions can easily become your primary personal computer, providing an alternative to a desktop system unit. Even without the docking solution, the ThinkPad 755CX easily serves as a primary system with its large color display, high-capacity hard disk, large RAM capability, local bus video, high-performance microprocessor, and two Type II or one Type III PCMCIA slots. Host connectivity is attained with PCMCIA cards. SelectaSystem(TM) allows you to choose between DOS, Windows+, or OS/2(R) Warp operating systems. If you choose to use OS/2 Warp, you can run multiple DOS, Windows, and OS/2 applications at the same time without conflict. Plus, you can take advantage of the BonusPak applications that come with OS/2 Warp, including IBM Works -- an Internet access kit with everything you need to travel the information superhighway via the IBM Global Network. Consider the exceptional array of built-in communication functions. A full-duplex speakerphone allows you to hold conference calls from virtually anywhere, and the digital answering machine can capture calls when you are at home or away. New optional features to complement the 755CX are: o IBM ThinkPad Li-Ion (Lithium-Ion) Battery Pack for longer battery operation (from 3.0 to 9.0 hours without recharging) o IBM ThinkPad 1.2GB Hard Disk Drive option for significantly increased storage capacity (available May 31, 1995) o IBM ThinkPad Travel Quick Charger for charging an extra battery pack (Li-Ion or NiMH) outside the system unit o IBM TrackPoint III Caps Single Unit Price: $6,549 (9545-HBD); $6,999 (9545-HBE) Availability Date: May 9, 1995 ** Company, product, or service name may be a trademark or service mark of others. (R) Registered trademark of International Business Machines Corporation (TM) Trademark of International Business Machines Corporation + Trademark of Microsoft Corporation In Brief . . . For the first time, a ThinkPad has its own SGVA display, plus a Pentium 75MHz processor with Level 2 cache. Other key reasons to consider the ThinkPad 755CX include: o A new, longer life Lithium-Ion battery pack (standard) o Choice of large-capacity hard disk of 540MB* or 810MB o Optional 1.2GB* hard disk drive o 8MB standard memory expandable to 40MB o SVGA 10.4-inch (maximum viewable area when measured diagonally) TFT Black Matrix color display o SelectaSystem capability for choosing from preinstalled operating systems: OS/2 Warp 3.0, IBM PC DOS 7, and Windows 3.11 o Programmable Mwave(R) digital signal processor (DSP) subsystem for audio, games, music, data/fax modem, and telephony (answering machine/speakerphone) o Infrared wireless file and data transfer Technical Support o ThinkPad Easy Serv warranty o International Warranty Service o HelpCenter(R) (800-772-2227) o ThinkPad Proven(TM) * MB = million bytes and GB = 1000 million bytes when referring to hard disk. ---------------------------- DESCRIPTION The ThinkPad 755CX notebook has more than enough power, performance, and storage to be the one computer for all your work -- on the road, at home, and at the office. ThinkPad 755CX at a Glance o Intel Pentium 75MHz processor with L2 cache o Large memory capacity (8MB to 40MB using DIMM memory modules and the Memory Module Adapter) o High-capacity hard disk drive (HDD): 540MB or 810MB standard; 1.2GB optional o Large 10.4-inch (maximum viewable area when measured diagonally) SVGA active Black Matrix TFT color display that has reduced reflectivity, less glare, and 800 x 600 resolution o Lithium-Ion battery pack for longer battery life (from 3.0 to 9.0 hours working time) o IBM Travel Quick Charger optional feature for charging an additional battery pack (connected between the AC Adapter and the system unit so that after the system battery is charged, the additional battery will start charging) o Local bus video with acceleration o IBM Mwave DSP subsystem o 14.4 Kbps data/fax modem o Built-in microphone and speaker o Dial volume control o Two infrared transceivers o TrackPoint(TM) III o Full complement of ports for peripheral connections o 240-pin docking connector o Removable 1.44MB floppy diskette drive o Type III PCMCIA slot o Preinstalled software: OS/2 Warp 3.0 with BonusPak applications, PC DOS 7, and Windows 3.11 operating systems preinstalled with SelectaSystem capability, plus a suite of applications preinstalled to choose from o Onscreen electronic personalization o Compatibility with 755CE, 755CSE, and 755CD ThinkPad systems These ThinkPad 755CX advanced-function models bring you innovative technology, instant productivity with preinstalled software, and outstanding service and support. ThinkPad 755CX Features SVGA Display: IBM is known through the industry as the leader in notebook display technology. The ThinkPad 755CX models have an SVGA active Black Matrix TFT (Thin Film Transistor) color display featuring larger viewing areas, brighter displays, higher contrast ratios, less glare, and higher resolution. The screen size is 10.4-inch (maximum viewable area when measured diagonally). The TFT display has a special treatment to reduce reflectivity and lessen the glare indoors. This TFT panel, with the appropriate display driver, can display up to 65,536 simultaneous colors. Processor: At the heart of these systems is the Intel Pentium 75MHz processor with 256KB L2 cache and integrated numeric coprocessor on board. Memory: These systems are designed to use non-parity memory. The systems come standard with 8MB RAM, upgradeable to a total of 40MB using DIMM memory modules with the Memory Module Adapter. The system memory can exceed 24MB when using IC DRAM cards that are larger than 16MB. This high-capacity and fast memory (70ns) can handle almost any application the mobile professional may have to execute. PCMCIA: The Type III slot can accommodate either two Type I, or two Type II, or one Type III PC card. If additional PCMCIA cards are required, the optional ThinkPad PCMCIA cartridge can be placed in the ThinkPad 755CX ThinkPad UltraBay(TM) providing an additional Type III slot. The ThinkPad UltraBay not only can accommodate this option, but it can also house the optional 2.88MB diskette drive (FDD) and CDPD mobile communications module. IBM PC Card Director software is preinstalled and provides support for the latest PCMCIA standard, 2.1. This software enables many PCMCIA cards, allowing the user to simply plug in the card. PC Card Director with Auto Configurator and Memory Device Driver: PC Card Director helps you get status and information on PCMCIA cards installed in the system. In addition, on OS/2 and on Microsoft** Windows, PC Card Director can register an application program for PCMCIA cards and execute them automatically. Auto Configurator and Memory Device Driver enables supported PCMCIA cards by sensing them automatically. Supported PCMCIA cards by Auto Configurator and Memory Device Driver are listed in the Devices Supported section. Keyboard and TrackPoint III: The keyboard has the familiar ThinkPad layout with a function key capability allowing you to quickly access system functions, like power management control. The keyboard lifts up allowing access to the FDD bay, HDD bay, and battery for quick upgrades or battery changes. The TrackPoint III is an enhanced TrackPoint II with improved non-slip TrackPoint cap and more accurate pointing capability through improved software. The "drag and drop" function of the click buttons is enhanced. You can lock and hold the buttons in without having to keep pushing on them. Storage: The customer-installable hard drive comes in a choice of 540MB or 810MB. An optional 1.2GB hard drive is also available. The drives are easily removed by lifting up the keyboard. You can have multiple "systems" simply by installing a different hard drive. Systems can also be shared by users who have their own hard drive but no ThinkPad system unit. A 1.44MB FDD drive comes standard. The ThinkPad UltraBay, also standard with the system, is an intelligent bay that switches its pinout signals to allow the installation of an FDD or PCMCIA cartridge in what would normally be just the floppy diskette drive bay. IBM Mwave Digital Signal Processor (DSP): The Mwave MDSP2780 operates at up to 60 million operations per second for integrating audio, games, music, data/fax modem, and telephony into a DSP. Features and benefits include: o 44.1KHz MPC-2 16-bit audio with real-time compression o Simultaneous audio play and record o Digital audio mixing with up to eight open .WAV sources o General MIDI compatible, 32-voice wavetable synthesizer o Sound Blaster** support o 14.4 Kbps data/fax modem o Full-featured telephone - Answering machine with variable speed message playback and voice compression - Hands-free, full-duplex speakerphone Features set can be enhanced simply by upgrading the DSP software. Audio: The audio capability on the system board (DSP) and the integrated microphone allow voice annotation and audio capability. The systems are equipped with audio in/out jacks for stereo speakers/headphone and external microphone. A separate dial volume control is located to the rear of the keyboard on the system. Infrared: The systems have IR transceivers in front and back for wireless file and data transfer. The ThinkPad 755CX is designed for compliance with the IrDA (Infrared Data Association) IR data link specification Version 1.0. The systems support three modes of operation: o IBM mode (from 57.6 Kbps to 1.15 Mbps) o HP** mode (from 9600 bps to 115 Kbps) o Sharp** mode (9600 bps) Preinstalled software provides wireless file transfer, file synchronization, and clip board data transfer. With the infrared feature, data can be exchanged with the following systems by using the vendor software packages listed below: Systems Software Omnibook 300** LapLink Remote Access** HP 100LX** Connectivity Pack for the HP 100LX Sharp Wizard** PC interface software, 9000 Link for PCs OZ-990(W)** When using the infrared feature to communicate with these systems, the communications distance may be shorter than when communicating with another ThinkPad 755CE, 755CSE, or 755CD, depending on the capabilities of the other systems. At time of shipment, mouse function is supported for DOS, Windows, and OS/2. Special effects by the Presentation F/X Pro is supported for Windows. Presentation F/X Pro upgrade to the OS/2 is presented by the Mind Path Technologies, Dallas, Texas. For more details, call 214-233-9296 for customer support sponsored by the Mind Path Technologies. Video: The systems have the VESA local bus support with video acceleration, providing exceptional video performance. Other Features: The use of system memory by BIOS, for example, is significantly reduced. BIOS uses 96KB of system memory (video, 32KB; all other, 64KB). The systems have the full complement of ports (enhanced parallel port, SVGA, pointer-keyboard, serial). In addition, a 240-pin connector supports the four IBM docking solutions: o Dock I -- portable docking with a slot and bay o Dock II -- desktop docking with slots, bays, and PCMCIA slots o Port Replicator I -- cable manager with a Type III PCMCIA slot or Type II PCMCIA slots o Port Replicator II -- cable manager only An RJ11 jack is also included because the DSP provides data/fax modem capability with speeds up to 14.4 Kbps. New Options for ThinkPad 755CX The ThinkPad 755CX systems support most of the options that were announced with the IBM ThinkPad 755CE, 755CSE, and 755CD systems. New options announced today include: o IBM ThinkPad Li-Ion Battery Pack o IBM ThinkPad 1.2GB Hard Disk Drive o IBM ThinkPad Travel Quick Charger (also available as an option for the 755CE, 755CSE, and 755CD systems) o IBM TrackPoint III Caps PRODUCT POSITIONING The ThinkPad 755CX systems are positioned as one of the highest full-function notebook computers in IBM's family of mobile portable systems. PUBLICATIONS The IBM ThinkPad 755CX User's Guide is shipped with the product. The following publications and diskettes are available for separate purchase. To order, call the IBM Software Manufacturing Solution Hotline at 800-879-2755. Order Part Publication Number Number IBM ThinkPad 755CX User's Guide S30H-1650 30H1650 IBM ThinkPad 755CX Diskette Group (1) S30H-1654 30H1654 IBM ThinkPad Technical Reference 755CX S19H-1158 30H1652 IBM ThinkPad 755 Mwave DSP Diskettes (2) S30H-1734 30H1734 IBM ThinkPad Maintenance Diskette S82G-3891 82G3891 IBM ThinkPad 755CX Specification Sheet G221-4390 The diskette group contains the following: o IBM ThinkPad Utility Diskette (1) o IBM ThinkPad PCMCIA Features Diskette (1) o IBM ThinkPad Video Features Diskette (1) o IBM ThinkPad Infrared Features Diskette (1) o IBM ThinkPad Mwave DSP Features Diskette (2) The Technical Reference will be available in June 1995. This reference is for programmers, engineers, and others who want to understand the ThinkPad 755CX system unit in greater detail. The publication includes functional specifications, hardware specifications, and pinouts for peripheral connectors. Service Publications (manuals and diskettes) Order Part Publication Number Number Hardware Maintenance Manual Volume 2: ThinkPad Computers S82G-1502 30H2357 Hardware Maintenance Diskette S82G-3891 82G3891 The Hardware Maintenance Manual contains service and reference information for IBM ThinkPad computers. The service section includes procedures for isolating problems to a field replacement unit (FRU), related service procedures, and an illustrated parts catalog. The reference section includes safety information, product description, and general information about system functions. Publications can be ordered from an IBM Authorized Dealer, an IBM representative, or through the Technical Directory. A complete listing of IBM ThinkPad and IBM Personal Computer hardware publications is available by calling the Technical Directory at 800-IBM-PCTB (426-7282). TECHNICAL INFORMATION Specified Operating Environment Li-Ion Battery: Approximate operation hours and charging hours are: Function Hours Power off/suspend charging 1.5 to 2.0 hrs Charging during operation 2.0 to 2.5 hrs Quick charging 2.0 to 3.0 hrs SVGA 755CX operation (range)(1) 3.0 to 9.0 hrs The previously announced NiMH battery pack for the 755CE/CSE/CD can also be used with the 755CX. The NiMH battery approximate operation hours and charging hours are: Function Hours Power off/suspend charging 1.2 hrs Charging during operation 1.7 hrs Travel Quick charger 2.0 to 3.0 hrs SVGA 755CX operation (range)(1) 2.4 to 7.0 hrs (1) Power management and application dependent. The operating time depends on the options used with the computer, the frequency of key input, applications, and the configuration of the system. It may be shorter or longer than the hours mentioned above. Physical Specifications IBM ThinkPad 755CX o Width: 297.0 mm (11.70 in.) o Depth: 210.0 mm ( 8.30 in.) o Height: 49.8 mm ( 1.96 in.) o Weight: 2.7 Kg (6.1 lb) with Li-Ion battery pack and diskette drive o Battery Li-Ion: 400 g (0.88 lb) o Battery NiMH: 540 g (1.19 lb) o Diskette drive: 213 g (0.47 lb) Electrical Specifications o Universal AC adapter: 100-240 V AC, 2.0A, 50/60Hz o Battery pack (Li-Ion): 10.8 V, 2.8AH, 710mAH/cell, 12 cell/pack o Battery pack (NiMH): 8.4 V, 3.5AH, 1800mAH/cell, 14 cell/pack Heat Dissipation o 136 Btu/hr maximum Air Temperature for Shipping and Storage o -20(degs)C to 60(degs)C (-4(degs)F to 140(degs)F) Relative Humidity for Shipping and Storage o 5% to 95% RH Acoustic Noise Level: Class 3D (office environment) o Sound pressure level (operator position): 40 dB (operating) o Sound power level: 5.1 Bels (operating); 4.8 Bels (idling) Note: The noise emission level stated is the declared (upper limit) sound power level, in Bels, for a random sample of machines, typically configured, and operating in idle mode; for example, powered on, but no DASD read/write or other I/O activity. All measurements made in accordance with ANSI S12.10, and reported in conformance with ISO 9296. Operating Environment Air temperature: 0 -- 8,000 ft o Operating: 5(degs)C to 35(degs)C (41(degs)F to 95(degs)F) (without diskette) o Operating: 10(degs)C to 35(degs)C (50(degs)F to 95(degs)F) (with diskette inside unit) o System off: 5(degs)C to 43(degs)C (41(degs)F to 110(degs)F) o Storage/shipment: -20(degs)C to 60(degs)C (-4(degs)F to 140(degs)F) o Wet bulb (maximum): 29.4(degs)C (85(degs)F) Air Temperature: 8,000 -- 10,000 ft o Operating: 5(degs)C to 31.3(degs)C (41(degs)F to 88(degs)F) (without diskette) o Operating: 10(degs) to 31.3(degs)C (50(degs)F to 88(degs)F) (with diskette inside unit) o System off: 5(degs)C to 43(degs)C (41(degs)F to 110(degs)F) o Storage/shipment: -20(degs)C to 60(degs)C (-4(degs)F to 140(degs)F) o Wet bulb (maximum): 25.7(degs)C (78(degs)F) Note: The maximum temperature when the system is on is linearly decreased from 8,000 ft to 10,000 ft. Relative Humidity o Operating: 8% to 95% RH (without diskette) o Operating: 8% to 80% RH (with diskette inside unit) o Storage/shipment: 5% to 95% RH Altitude o 10,000 ft maximum (3,048 meters) Agency Approvals o System Unit Approvals - FCC Class-B Certified to comply with FCC Rules, Part 15 FCC ID is ANO9545E - VCCI CLASS 2 (0 dB) - CISPR22B - UL-1950 - CSA C22.2 No. 950 - SEMKO - NEMKO - NOM - DEMKO - SETI - UK-PTT - JATE - SASO o AC/DC Adapter Approvals - UL-1950 - CSA-C22.2 No. 223 - SEMKO - NEMKO - DEMKO - SETI - SA - SEV - OVE - DENTORI - NOM Software Requirements: The following operating systems support the ThinkPad 755CX. Refer to the Limitations section for support issues unique to each operating system. o IBM PC DOS 7, J6.3/V o IBM OS/2 Warp Version 3 o IBM OS/2 Warp, Japanese Version 3.0 o IBM OS/2 2.11 o MS-DOS 6.22 o Microsoft Windows 3.11/J3.1 o Microsoft Windows for Workgroups 3.11 Systems software supported includes: o IBM OS/2 LAN Server Entry Version 4.0(2) o IBM OS/2 LAN Server Advanced Version 4.0(2) o IBM Communications Manager/2 Version 1.1 o IBM Database/2 OS/2 Version 1.0 (2) Client function portion only was tested. Compatibility and Supported Products Refer to the 9545 Sales Manual pages, or contact your IBM representative, for a complete list of supported features and options and compatible IBM and vendor software. The Sales Manual is updated periodically The ThinkPad 755CX systems are designed to be compatible with the PS/2(R). The ThinkPad 755CX systems contain BIOS/Easy Setup/Diagnostics in their Flash ROM, and also provide a graphical user interface to set up the system and power management features for OS/2 and Windows users. BIOS provides the hardware instructions and interfaces designed to support the standard features of the ThinkPad 755CX systems and to maintain compatibility with many software programs currently operating under DOS and OS/2 on the Personal Computer XT(TM), Personal Computer AT(R), and the PS/2 family. Devices Supported -- PCMCIA: ThinkPad 755CX systems conform to the PCMCIA PC Card Standard Release 2.01 and the PCMCIA Card and Socket Services Specification Release 2.1, dated July 1993. Other PCMCIA adapters that comply with the PCMCIA PC Card Standard Specification Release 2.01 may also function, but have not been tested by IBM. Feature Part Description Number Number IBM 3270 Emulation Credit Card Adapter 2812 0933315 IBM Token-Ring 16/4 Credit Card Adapter II 8072 0933931 IBM Ethernet Credit Card Adapter II for 10Base-T 3290 0934331 IBM Ethernet Credit Card Adapter II for 10Base-2 3280 0934330 IBM 5250 Emulation PCMCIA Adapter 2808 92F3808 IBM 2.4/9.6 Data/Fax Modem Multipack 87G8988 IBM 14.4/14.4 Data/Fax Modem Multipack 87G8989 IBM RS-232 PCMCIA Serial Card 87G9250 IBM Infrared (IR) Wireless Adapter Tethered Transceiver 87G9740 IBM Infrared (IR) Wireless Adapter Integrated Transceiver 87G9743 IBM Mass Storage Card 5MB 70G7344 IBM Mass Storage Card 10MB 70G7345 Feature Part Description Number Number IBM Mass Storage Card 15MB 70G7346 IBM 1MB SRAM PCMCIA Memory Card 92G7229 IBM 2MB SRAM PCMCIA Memory Card 92G7230 IBM Solid State File Card 5MB 40G3166 IBM Solid State File Card 10MB 40G3167 IBM Solid State File Card 20MB 40G3168 IBM Solid State File Card 30MB 40G3169 IBM Solid State File Card 40MB 40G3170 IBM 40MB PCMCIA Hard Disk Drive (Type III) 7559 70G8495 IBM 105MB PCMCIA Hard Disk Drive (Type III) 1901 32G4199 Limitations o Movie file (AVI) compressed in Indeo format is not supported under OS/2 Warp Version 3.0 at this time. Use the media player application in WIN-OS/2(TM) session to play back the movie file. The Indeo AVI file playback by Digital Video fix will be available from the IBM Personal Computer Co. Bulletin Board (PCC BBS) by June 30, 1995. o The ThinkPad 755CX SVGA models do not support the simultaneous display function when connected to any VGA-resolution, external CRT or LCD display, such as the IBM 8514 or 8515. o The 755CX SVGA models do not support the use of the AD-VC Card option in the Dock I and do not support the TV Tuner Pack option. o Currently, the Mind Path Presentation F/X Pro software is only available in a Windows version. The OS/2 version will be available on or after May 9, 1995. The OS/2 version can be obtained by calling Mind Path Technologies, Inc., at 800-736-6830 or the IBM PCC BBS at 919-517-0001. o If the ThinkPad enters suspend mode while a video is playing, while using Video for Windows and Presentation F/X Pro and the Mind Path Remote Controller (separately purchased item), the ThinkPad may not resume properly. Close the Presentation F/X Pro software prior to suspending the system, if a video is playing. o Some optional features or applications may use the COM1 port. OS/2 Warp Version 3 will not load COM.SYS if the COM1 port is already in use. Only one such feature or application that uses the COM1 (for example, communications or PCMCIA) can be used at a time. For example, the Mind Path IR Remote Controller uses the COM1 port and this controller must be disabled to use another application that also uses COM1. o Some special effects of the Presentation F/X program are not effective during motion pictures and digital video playback that frequently access the video buffer. o The Warp fixpak XR0W005 is required for audio, modem, and printer support if OS/2 Warp Version 3 needs to be reinstalled. o Fixpak XR_A087 is required for audio, data fax modem, and telephony functions under OS/2 2.11. Call 800-992-4777 to get these APAR fixes. o The 640 x 480 65,536 color driver is available in OS/2 Warp Version 3.0. The 640 x 480 65,536 color display driver for OS/2 2.11 or OS/2 for Windows can be obtained from the IBM OS/2 Bulletin Board. This is currently available on the PCC BBS by calling 919-517-0001. The PCC BBS is available 24 hours a day on a toll-call basis with no access charge to the bulletin board. o When using the Redirector feature of the Connectivity Pack for the HP 100LX to exchange data over an infrared link at 115 Kbps, the ThinkPad 755CX should be configured as the requestor. o Telephony and answering machine functions do not support PBX. o Video performance will be reduced when operating under the 64K color mode. o The Mwave MDSP2780 (DSP) does not support cellular phone connection. o The system cannot enter the suspend/hibernation mode when the Sound Blaster emulation mode is enabled in a DOS environment. o The IBM Enhanced Mouse (92G7457) cannot be used with TrackPoint III. When using the IBM Enhanced Mouse, TrackPoint III should be disabled. o Continuous use of the HDD drive, such as reading long video files, will impact battery life. o The fifth PCMCIA slot cannot be identified by the IBM PC Card Director memory device driver when installing the IBM ThinkPad PCMCIA cartridge in the FDD bay of the system unit when the IBM ThinkPad Port Replicator I or ThinkPad Dock II is attached. o The ThinkPad 755CX systems have one memory slot per system. - By using 2MB, 4MB, 8MB, or 16MB IC DRAM optional feature cards, up to 24MB of system memory is possible. If IC DRAM cards larger than 16MB are available, more than 24MB of system memory is possible. - By using DIMM technology, the IBM Memory Module Adapter, and 4MB, 8MB, or 16MB memory modules, up to 40MB of system memory is possible. o As the audio and communication features share the hardware resource of Mwave DSP, their concurrent usage has some restrictions. For example, when you are using any of the communication features, you cannot use the MIDI audio capability. The system is designed so that the customer can install or remove the PCMCIA card without turning off the system, if the PCMCIA card supports this function. Refer to the instructions that come with the PCMCIA card. o When installing two Type II PCMCIA communications cards in the PCMCIA slot, there may be some cable interference that allows only one card to be used. o PC Card point enablers may write directly to the hardware, bypassing Socket and Card Services Release 2.1. Writing directly to the hardware may cause problems that cannot be anticipated. Also, point enablers may interfere with client device drivers that do communicate with Socket and Card Services Release 2.1. Additional customer testing in their specific environments is recommended. o PCMCIA diagnostics programs usually do not recognize slot number greater than two. To diagnose a suspected faulty card, make sure the PCMCIA card is in one of the PCMCIA slots of the system proper. o Point enablers usually do not support slot numbers above 2. If using a PCMCIA card with a point enabler, make sure that the card is in the slots on the system proper. o A video capture adapter that requires VGA pass-through (video pass-through, VESA bus) is not supported by the 755CX and the IBM Docking stations. o The IBM 8516 Touch Screen Color Display and IBM ThinkPad Space Saver Keyboard require the TrackPoint III to be disabled before connecting it to the connector. To disable the TrackPoint III, follow the instructions provided in the User's Guide. o The IBM Keyboard/Mouse Connector accessory is required when attaching an external keyboard to the system via the external input device port. o The password prompt is not displayed when the computer resumes from partial suspend mode while it is attached to the IBM ThinkPad Dock I or Dock II. To operate, you will need to type the correct password. o If one of these systems is used with the IBM ThinkPad Dock I or Dock II, then for the comfort and convenience of the user, the height of the system should be adjusted or an external keyboard should be used. o The diagnostic failures by the diagnostic program may occur on the following adapters when docked, even though there is no functional problem: IBM 3278/3279 Emulation Adapter, IBM Token-Ring Network 16/4 Adapter, IBM Token-Ring Network PC Adapter II, and IBM Token-Ring Network 16/4 Adapter II. Suspend Mode Operational Considerations o Do not remove or install PC cards during suspend mode. o Suspend mode shuts off power to the PCMCIA sockets. o When using Windows 3.11, ensure that the Advanced Power Management (APM) is installed. o Non-disruptive battery exchange allows the user to put the system in suspend mode and exchange battery packs without any loss of data or function. o During suspend mode, the maximum power output becomes 60mA at 12 V. During suspend mode, PCMCIA cards cannot consume more than 60mA at 12 V. Planning Information Cable Orders: All cables are included with the system. Installability: ThinkPad 755CX systems require about 20 minutes for installation. Installation includes unpacking, setting up, and powering on the system. Additional time is required to install other memory and other optional features. Problem Determination: If a failure is found at initial installation, an instruction or error code will appear on the screen. The user should note this information and refer to the User's Guide shipped with the system unit. System units that fail at installation or during a power up sequence will automatically go to the system diagnostics to isolate the failing field replaceable unit (FRU), or refer the user to the service representative for the ThinkPad 755CX. The trouble-shooting procedures consist of a power-on self-test, diagnostic tests, and easy-to-follow trouble-shooting charts designed to assist the user in isolating a defective machine element. The failing element can then be replaced or repaired under existing warranty provisions. HelpWare(R) Support: HelpWare is a comprehensive set of offerings that provide you with a full range of service and support options in making your computing experience more productive and enjoyable. As part of our commitment to providing you with the support you require, IBM provides many complimentary HelpWare services during the warranty period of your IBM personal computer. Additional services are available from the HelpWare Support Family. For detailed information on HelpWare, refer to Services Announcement 694-029, dated October 17, 1994, or call the HelpCenter at 800-772-2227. ThinkPad Proven: ThinkPad Proven is an innovative program where IBM is working with a number of industry-leading manufacturers who have tested their products to meet IBM's standards for ThinkPad compatibility and provide warranty and technical support service. The ThinkPad Proven emblem signifies that: o The manufacturer has stated to IBM that it has tested the product to IBM-developed test procedures and assures compliance with ThinkPad compatibility standards. o The product has been approved for use on specific ThinkPad models, which will be listed. o The manufacturer warrants a hardware product for a minimum of three years, a software product for 90 days. Additional information can be found in the ThinkPad Proven brochure. Packaging IBM ThinkPad 755CX: o 9545-HBD -- 85G8555 540MB SVGA WIN/WARP/Apps o 9545-HBE --85G8524 810MB SVGA WIN/WARP/Apps Shipment group -- system unit carton contents: o System unit with U.S. English keyboard o AC adapter o Rechargeable battery pack (Li-Ion battery for 755CX) o U.S. power cord o 755CX User's Guide o U.S./Canadian warranty statement and FCC statement o ThinkPad Envelope Group - Customer registration form - International traveler's hardware warranty booklet - HelpCenter label o Preinstalled mobile software envelope o IBM PC DOS 7 English manual (without diskettes) o MS Windows 3.11 English manual (without diskettes) o OS/2 Warp Version 3.0 English manual (without diskettes) o Monologue for Windows publication and diskette Accessories and/or Supplies: The following announced accessories are applicable for the ThinkPad 755CX: Part Accessories Number IBM ThinkPad Carrying Case 59G7970 IBM ThinkPad 750 Key Guard 66G3685 IBM PS/2 Keyboard/Mouse Connector 54G0441 Security, Auditability, and Control Standard Security Features for 9545: The electronic personalization feature is like a name tag on your ThinkPad. Your name, contact address, or phone number can be displayed on the screen when the system is turned on. The personal data is stored in the system non-volatile memory and is displayed with a password prompt. This helps to identify your ThinkPad. Passwords: o A Power-on Password (POP) protects the system from unauthorized use. If a POP is set, the password prompt appears: - Each time the system is turned on. - When the system is returned to normal operation from suspend mode. o A Supervisor Password provides a higher level of security than the POP. The Supervisor Password protects the system functions from being used by unauthorized users and protects the hardware configuration from unauthorized modification. The Supervisor Password prompt appears when the hardware configuration is changed. o A HDD Password (HDP) protects HDD data from unauthorized users. Once HDP is set, data on the HDD cannot be accessed without the correct HDP. Because the HDP is stored in the HDD, the data remains protected even if the HDD is removed to another system. The HDP password prompt appears: - Each time the system is turned on. - When the system is returned to normal operation from suspend mode. o The user can use the hook on the hard disk locking mechanism to leash with a user selected padlock and chain or cable. o The user can attach the Kensington** lock to the keyhole on the side of the computer. This prevents the keyboard from opening and secures the internal devices under the keyboard. User management is responsible for evaluation, selection, and implementation of security features, administrative procedures, and appropriate controls in application systems and communications facilities. TERMS AND CONDITIONS This product is available for purchase under the terms of the IBM Customer Agreement (ICA). IBM Credit Corporation Financing: Term leases and installment payment plans are available for commercial and state and local government customers. Warranty Period o System Hardware (9545): Three years. An optional one-year warranty is available via special bid. o System Battery: One year. o Optional Features: One year minimum, or the remaining warranty of the system in which the feature is installed. o Media: Three months. o IBM Programs: Three months. o Non-IBM Programs: Not warranted by IBM; warranty if any, is as provided by the program's supplier. Licensing: IBM programs included with ThinkPad 755CX are licensed under the terms and conditions of the IBM Program License Agreement and IBM System Programs License Agreement. A copy of these agreements are included in the documentation that ships with the system. Non-IBM programs are available from IBM as distributed by the program supplier. Terms and conditions of the supplier apply. They are included in their respective program packages in the documentation that ships with the systems and are passed on to the customer. Warranty Service ThinkPad EasyServ: Warranty service for the ThinkPad 755CX will be provided by ThinkPad EasyServ. ThinkPad EasyServ is a courier repair service in which the ThinkPad system will be picked up at the customer's location and delivered to an IBM-designated repair location. The repair location will repair the system and return it to the customer. Charges for the courier service will be paid by IBM. If warranty service is required, the customer should call the HelpCenter at 800-772-2227. The HelpCenter will assist the user with problem isolation for both hardware and software. Should a hardware problem be identified, the HelpCenter will arrange for a courier to pickup the system for overnight delivery (where available) to the repair location. Most repairs should be made the same day the system is received at the repair location. Customers should keep the original shipping carton for shipping to the repair location. If the original shipping carton is not available, the courier will deliver a shipping carton and return to pick up the system for delivery to the repair location. International Warranty Service: Customers who travel or need to move products to another country will be able to register the products for IBM International Warranty Service. Upon registering with the International Warranty Service Office (IWSO), IBM will issue an International Warranty Service Certificate that will be honored virtually worldwide, where IBM or IBM resellers sell and service IBM PC products. During the original warranty period, customers will be provided service though the service delivery methods available for their specific IBM system in the servicing country. For more information on IBM International Warranty Service or to register your IBM PC systems, contact IBM at 800-IWS-7426 (497-7426). Refer to Services Announcement 694-028, dated October 17, 1994. Alternative Service o IBM On-site Repair (IOR): On-site service will not be offered. o ThinkPad EasyServ Overnight Repair Option: This service is available for an additional per-incident charge, or via special bid for coverage during the warranty period. Maintenance Service o ThinkPad EasyServ 9545 Maintenance Agreement This is a courier repair service in which the ThinkPad will be picked up at the customer's location and delivered to an IBM-designated repair location. The repaired machine will be returned to the customer. Charges for the courier service will be paid by IBM. o ThinkPad EasyServ Overnight Repair Option This allows customers whose machines are covered by an IBM ThinkPad EasyServ Maintenance Agreement to upgrade the service to overnight repair for an additional per-incident charge, or via special bid during the agreement period. Customers should call the HelpCenter at 800-772-2227 for information on utilizing this service. o IBM Per Call Service Note: Non-IBM products installed in a ThinkPad 755CX either on Warranty or Maintenance Service may be serviced by IBM. Additional service support charges may apply. IBM Hourly Service Rate Classification: One IBM Warranty Service, Maintenance Service, or IBM Hourly Service may be obtained by calling IBM HelpCenter at 800-772-2227. IBM Hourly Service is available at the applicable rate and terms, including element exchange price, if applicable. Extended Maintenance Option: The 9545 is not eligible for the Extended Maintenance Option under the ICA. A revised Exhibit for Extended Maintenance Option will be available at a later date. Central Facility Maintenance Service (CFMS) Option: The 9545 is an eligible machine for CFMS Option of the ICA. A revised exhibit will be available at a later date. A minimum of six machines is required to be at the central facility before requesting maintenance service. The Additional Maintenance Charge Factor is currently 0.5 hours. The terms and conditions are stated in the Attachment for Central Facility Maintenance Service Option. Product Availability Status: New product available Field Installable Features: Yes Model Conversions: No Customer Setup: Yes Licensed Internal Code: No National Education Price (NEP): A NEP is available under the terms and conditions of the National Education Price List. The NEP price which represents a discount from the single unit purchase price, is not subject to any further discount or allowance. The machines in this announcement are included in the National Education Price List. CHARGES Product Charges Single Part Machine Unit Description Number Type/Model Price* IBM TP 755CX (540MB,PENTIUM-75, SVGA) 85G8555 9545-HBD $6,549 IBM TP 755CX (810MB,PENTIUM-75, SVGA) 85G8524 9545-HBE 6,999 * The single unit price reflects the purchase price for a single unit acquired from IBM, and is subject to change without notice. This price is for information purposes only, and shall not limit in any way the remarketers' ability to set their own prices for IBM products. Optional Features Single Feature Part Unit Description Number Number Price IBM ThinkPad Li-Ion Battery Pack 8098 85G8561 $ 279 IBM 1.2 GB Hard Disk Drive 8102 85G8562 1,749 IBM ThinkPad Travel Quick Charger 4441 85G1522 195 IBM TrackPoint III Caps 8107 39H1354 5 Annual Minimum Maintenance Charges Machine ThinkPad Type/Model EasyServ 9545-All $300 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 9 23:00:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29808; Tue, 9 May 95 23:00:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23310; Tue, 9 May 1995 22:46:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 9 May 1995 22:46:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from inforamp.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23300; Tue, 9 May 1995 22:46:05 -0400 Received: from ts12-04.inforamp.net by inforamp.net (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA13948; Tue, 9 May 1995 22:44:59 +0500 Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 22:44:59 +0500 Message-Id: <9505100244.AA13948@inforamp.net> X-Sender: plexxus@inforamp.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Gary E. Moore" From: plexxus@inforamp.net (John Allman) Subject: Re: 755CD LCD resolution Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU >Is the 755CD's LCD screen limited to 640x480? I know it will display lots of >colors but better resolution would be nice. > > >-------------------------------------------------- >Gary E. Moore Ventana Communications Group >gary@vmedia.com http://www.vmedia.com/gary >-------------------------------------------------- > According to thr IBM Configurator the TP755CD is limited to 65,536 colours at 640x480. The new machines just anounced I beleive are 800x640. John John Allman Plexxus Technologies Inc. Markham (Toronto), Ontario From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 10 00:41:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08701; Wed, 10 May 95 00:41:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29634; Wed, 10 May 1995 00:25:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 10 May 1995 00:24:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA29622; Wed, 10 May 1995 00:24:57 -0400 Received: from p88.slip.net (sfsp32.slip.net [204.160.88.222]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA20770 for ; Tue, 9 May 1995 21:04:13 -0700 Message-Id: <199505100404.VAA20770@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 09 May 1995 21:04:13 -0700 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: New Model: TP755CX At 01:24 PM 5/9/95 -0400, Joshua Hosseinoff wrote: >What we've all been waiting for: >IBM ThinkPad 755CX Introduces SVGA Display and Pentium Processor um... WOW! Thanks for posting.. thanks alot, my heart is pounding and my 755cs/75 is covered in drool. ____________________________________________________________________ http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 10 00:58:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09468; Wed, 10 May 95 00:58:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00772; Wed, 10 May 1995 00:48:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 10 May 1995 00:48:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA00762; Wed, 10 May 1995 00:48:46 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA15730; Wed, 10 May 95 00:49:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 May 95 00:49:30 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505100449.AA15730@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: jesse@spine.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: New Model: TP755CX I guess the only thing missing now is a P90 chip. Now that there is a 3.3 volt part, it would seem reasonable to look for one. Also it would be nice to have all this stuff in the 701 form factor, rather than the 755 form factor. And finally a big zinc-air battery would be handy (see it is easy to never quite be satisfied). Anyone know about ship dates on the 755CX, or on the Pentium upgrades for the 755CE/D It is odd that there is no D ROM version of the 755CX announced. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 10 02:00:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10937; Wed, 10 May 95 02:00:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03235; Wed, 10 May 1995 01:50:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 10 May 1995 01:50:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from armon.rain.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA03215; Wed, 10 May 1995 01:50:15 -0400 Received: by armon.rain.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0s94el-000DzOC; Tue, 9 May 95 22:49 PDT Message-Id: From: mehdi@armon.rain.com (Mehdi Attaran) Subject: Re: New Model: TP755CX To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Date: Tue, 9 May 1995 22:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9505100449.AA15730@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> from "Robert Dewar" at May 10, 95 00:49:30 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > Anyone know about ship dates on the 755CX, or on the Pentium upgrades for > the 755CE/D Both Entex, and IBM Direct have given me prices on the Pentium upgrade for the 755CD. Entex quoted a delivery/availability date of late May, while IBM Direct was not willing to tell me when. I've also gotten prices and part numbers (but no availability date) on the LI batteries. I have not had much luck finding anything on the battery charges however. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mehdi Attaran mehdi@armon.rain.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!armon!mehdi | | Data: (503) 642-3270 Voice: (503) 649-0719 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 10 09:21:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09989; Wed, 10 May 95 09:21:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06429; Wed, 10 May 1995 09:07:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 10 May 1995 09:07:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from empire.texas.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06413; Wed, 10 May 1995 09:07:31 -0400 Received: from millenium.texas.net (root@millenium.texas.net [204.96.20.3]) by empire.texas.net (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id IAA06919 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 08:08:51 -0500 Received: from dialnet57.texas.net (dialnet57.texas.net [204.96.20.157]) by millenium.texas.net (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id IAA18420 for ; Wed, 10 May 1995 08:09:01 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 08:09:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199505101309.IAA18420@millenium.texas.net> X-Sender: iws08738@texas.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: iws08738@texas.net (Ed Holub) Subject: 1024x786 video on 755C Greetings, I am trying to configure a 755C (DOS/Windows 3.1) to display 1024x768 on an external monitor (IBM 9517P) and not having any luck. We have a second unit, a 755CE, that we can get to work. The "Display" icon on the 755CE gives us option buttons for "Monitor" and "Device Driver" that let you set the resolution and color depth, virtual screen size, etc. The Display icon on the 755C doesn't have those button options. We have done a VINSTALL from the video disks, as well as INSTALLW on the Utility disk. Any help, hints, etc. would be most appreciated! Thanks, Ed Holub USAA Information Services From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 10 09:27:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10074; Wed, 10 May 95 09:27:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06472; Wed, 10 May 1995 09:09:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 10 May 1995 09:09:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06461; Wed, 10 May 1995 09:09:36 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144031>; Wed, 10 May 1995 09:09:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: Robert Dewar's message as of May 10, 1:01am X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar), jesse@spine.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: New Model: TP755CX Message-Id: <95May10.090925edt.144031@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 09:09:17 -0400 On May 10, 1:01am, Robert Dewar wrote: } I guess the only thing missing now is a P90 chip. Now that there is a 3.3 } volt part, it would seem reasonable to look for one. As a relatively new 755CE owner, I'd say that the CX is a decidedly better package for an initial purchase (assuming it's available). The two main improvements of higher-res screen and faster CPU are nice, but not overwhelming. As a graphics person, I always appreciate better screen densities, but I think would find myself going for larger fonts given that screen size isn't changing. And a P75 *should* be faster than a DX4/100, but qualitatively I'm not so sure. The L2 cache sounds interesting, however. When I come back from sabbatical in a year, I'm hoping there will be be a P100 or higher upgrade available. Can anyone in the know comment on the relative speeds of a P100 vs a good PowerPC chip? Regards, Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 10 10:25:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12504; Wed, 10 May 95 10:25:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11622; Wed, 10 May 1995 10:12:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 10 May 1995 10:12:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA11611; Wed, 10 May 1995 10:12:37 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA09381; Wed, 10 May 95 10:13:16 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 May 95 10:13:16 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505101413.AA09381@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU, elf@dgp.toronto.edu, jesse@spine.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: New Model: TP755CX There shouldl be a substantial gain from going to a non-cached 100MHz 486 to a cached 75MHz Pentium. The L2 cache is absolutely critical, and note for example that the Versa P75 does NOT have an L2 cache, A pentium without an L2 cache is crippled. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 10 12:08:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19623; Wed, 10 May 95 12:08:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19839; Wed, 10 May 1995 11:51:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 10 May 1995 11:50:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19829; Wed, 10 May 1995 11:50:58 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA28681; Wed, 10 May 1995 08:50:56 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id IAA24818; Wed, 10 May 1995 08:50:50 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199505101550.IAA24818@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: New Model: TP755CX To: elf@dgp.toronto.edu (Eugene Fiume) Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 08:50:49 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <95May10.090925edt.144031@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> from "Eugene Fiume" at May 10, 95 09:09:17 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Can anyone in the know comment on the relative speeds of a P100 vs a > good PowerPC chip? I don't know that I'm "in the know", but from what I've read, the Pentium 90's and 100's, in raw terms, aren't as fast as the PPC 601 chip. However, in reality, after being encumbered by the various operating systems and other related hardware (specifically, Windows & the Mac's System 7.x OS), the Pentiums come out somewhat ahead of the PowerPC. This is partly due to the fact that the Mac OS is still not completely PPC-native, but rather in emulation mode (emulating the previous Motorola 68000 series chips). However, the next step seems to be the killer. Who knows when Intel will get the next generation chip out, though Pentiums running at 120 Mhz appear to be just around the corner. Before the end of this year however, you will see Macintosh machines with the next generation PowerPC chip--the 604--in them. From what I can see, the 604 will blow the doors off the Pentium and quite likely by the time Intel catches up with their next chip, Motorola will have the PPC 620 out, keeping one step ahead of them. In terms of market share, I doubt anything huge will happen, but it appears to be a safe bet that the PowerPC chip will make a decent dent, given its huge performance advantages and its relatively low price(s). I think if Win NT ever catches on (or OS/2 actually goes someplace), then the versions of these operating systems on the PPC chip will be real winners. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 10 12:29:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20943; Wed, 10 May 95 12:29:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22136; Wed, 10 May 1995 12:16:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 10 May 1995 12:16:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22120; Wed, 10 May 1995 12:16:04 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA10800; Wed, 10 May 95 12:16:49 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 May 95 12:16:49 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505101616.AA10800@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: elf@dgp.toronto.edu, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: New Model: TP755CX Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU the power PC is MUCH faster than the PEntium for floating-point. The Pentium performance on FPT is, for the first time in an Intel chip, within hailing range of reasonable RISC performance, but still not great! FOr integer arithmetic, to a first degree of approximation, these chips are clock speed for clock speed comparable. The disastrous lack of registers on the Pentium can make quite a difference in some cases, even in integer calculatoins, however. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 10 13:37:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25468; Wed, 10 May 95 13:37:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26057; Wed, 10 May 1995 13:11:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 10 May 1995 13:11:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26044; Wed, 10 May 1995 13:11:44 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20628; Wed, 10 May 95 10:09:35 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) id KAA06347; Wed, 10 May 1995 10:09:17 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9505101009.ZM6345@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 10:09:16 -0700 In-Reply-To: Randal Whittle "Re: New Model: TP755CX" (May 10, 8:50am) References: <199505101550.IAA24818@aludra.usc.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: New Model: TP755CX Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On May 10, 8:50am, Randal Whittle wrote: > Subject: Re: New Model: TP755CX > > Can anyone in the know comment on the relative speeds of a P100 vs a > > good PowerPC chip? > > I don't know that I'm "in the know", but from what I've read, > the Pentium 90's and 100's, in raw terms, aren't as fast as the PPC 601 > chip. Randy, I'm currently working with the MIT Computational Structures Group on the StarT-NG supercomputer which is a parallel processor comprised of PPC 620's. I'm also on the Power Consortium's non-disclosure agreement. The 601 is has marginally faster (~10%) integer performance than a P5 running at the same clock rate. Floating point performance is significantly (~35%) faster. > Before the end of this year > however, you will see Macintosh machines with the next generation PowerPC > chip--the 604--in them. We have 120Mhz 604's right now, and they are not samples. > From what I can see, the 604 will blow the doors off the Pentium The 604 integer unit is a 64-bit version of the 601's integer unit, so you won't see much performance improvement there. They've expanded the on-chip cache, and improved the floating point unit. The big difference is the vastly increased clock rate. By the end of the year AIM is expecting to ship 166Mhz versions. If it makes any difference, the PowerPC is a much more elegant architecture IMHO than the P5. In all fairness, the PowerPC design was not crippled by an installed user base. The P6 chip, btw, is a beautiful design. A true RISC processor with 4 execution units. They provide backward compatability by executing x86 instructions as macros (remarkably similar to how the Alpha can execute VAX instructions as macros). > and quite likely by the time Intel catches up > with their next chip, Motorola will have the PPC 620 out, keeping one > step ahead of them. Unfortunately the 620 is probably not going to reach the mass market. The 620 has four execution units, compared to three on the 601 and 604, a better floating point unit and an on-chip L2 cache interface. AIM feels that the only market for this chip will be the scientific/research community. They believe that they will make more money selling enhanced versions of the 604, which is much less expensive to make. The next big PowerPC chip will be the 630, which will probably be a VLIW (very long instruction word) processor, with 18 execution units or so. > In terms of market share, I doubt anything huge will happen, but > it appears to be a safe bet that the PowerPC chip will make a decent dent, > given its huge performance advantages and its relatively low price(s). Agreed. In the PC market anything can and will happen. Robert -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Robert George Computer Engineer (408) 656-3316 Fax: (408) 656-2814 Army Research Laboratory/AMSRL-SS-IC/2800 Powder Mill Rd/Adelphi, MD 20783 URL: http://cs.nps.navy.mil/people/phd/george "I am Homer of Borg, prepare to be assim... Ooooooooh donuts!" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 10 17:29:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16166; Wed, 10 May 95 17:29:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15902; Wed, 10 May 1995 17:12:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 10 May 1995 17:12:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15892; Wed, 10 May 1995 17:12:55 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.44] (mac44.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA04893; Wed, 10 May 95 17:12:41 EDT Message-Id: <9505102112.AA04893@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 17:21:42 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Pentium-PPC (was New Model: TP755CX) I kind of figured that my next machine would be an IBM thinkpad PPC running OS2, when and if such a thing comes out. Is this in the cards? I heard that PPC's consume less power than the Pentium. Is this still true? What ever happened to IBMs vow to stay away from Pentiums? It must have taken them HOURS to eat their words :). ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 10 17:44:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16997; Wed, 10 May 95 17:44:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA18033; Wed, 10 May 1995 17:34:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 10 May 1995 17:34:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17957; Wed, 10 May 1995 17:34:24 -0400 From: Received: from PC1-Message_Server by BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU with WordPerfect_Office; Wed, 10 May 1995 12:25:20 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: WordPerfect Office 4.0 Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 12:23:20 -0400 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, iws08738@texas.net Subject: 1024x786 video on 755C -Reply Message As Sent: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am trying to configure a 755C (DOS/Windows 3.1) to display 1024x768 on an external monitor (IBM 9517P) and not having any luck. Any help, hints, etc. would be most appreciated! Thanks, Ed Holub USAA Information Services <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Reply: The 750C comes with a Video Display Disk that Windows can use to enhance your External Display Monitor. Options include: ThinkPad 750 640x480 256 colors, large fonts ThinkPad 750 640x480 256 colors, small fonts ThinkPad 750 800x600 256 colors, large fonts ThinkPad 750 800x600 256 colors, small fonts ThinkPad 750 1024x768 256 colors, large fonts ThinkPad 750 1024x768 256 colors, small fonts Using Setup(DOS) or Winsetup Add in the drivers for the ThinkPad 750 1024x768 256 colors, xxxx fonts Modify PS2WIN display section by checking High Performance NOTE: With this configuration you will not be able to view the laptop screen while the external monitor is attached. When you boot up without an external monitor the TP will use the 600x480 default display. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 10 18:09:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18459; Wed, 10 May 95 18:09:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21165; Wed, 10 May 1995 17:58:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 10 May 1995 17:58:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21155; Wed, 10 May 1995 17:58:36 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144031>; Wed, 10 May 1995 17:58:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: Victor Kress's message as of May 10, 5:38pm X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Pentium-PPC (was New Model: TP755CX) Message-Id: <95May10.175829edt.144031@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 17:58:15 -0400 } I kind of figured that my next machine would be an IBM thinkpad PPC running } OS2, when and if such a thing comes out. Is this in the cards? I heard } that PPC's consume less power than the Pentium. Is this still true? What } ever happened to IBMs vow to stay away from Pentiums? It must have taken } them HOURS to eat their words :). More like three seconds, I'd say. I can understand their corporate strategy not to be boxed in by Intel, but you have to be pragmatic. As for where things are going, I don't think we're very far away from a fast PPC or Pentium, truecolour, 1k*1k TFT, hardware MPEG/digital video machine. I would be really surprised if such a box is more than a year away. Reality Engine level graphics in two or less. The question is whether the software will keep up. I once thought UNIX hung together by a thread until I started playing with DOS/Windows and the like. The sheer amount of software to play with is exciting, but the quality of the base OS's on PC's leave a lot to be desired. I have been able to do "serious" work with Linux, however. But unless something magical happens, I can't see that Linux and other PC UNIX implementations can keep up the pace, especially if they go beyond the Intel architecture. Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 10 18:09:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18466; Wed, 10 May 95 18:09:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21324; Wed, 10 May 1995 18:00:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 10 May 1995 18:00:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA21307; Wed, 10 May 1995 18:00:42 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA20455; Wed, 10 May 95 18:01:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 May 95 18:01:26 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505102201.AA20455@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Pentium-PPC (was New Model: TP755CX) "whatever happened to IBMs vow to stay away from Pentiums?" Eh? Where on earth do people get these kind of strange ideas? What vow? You know Dvorak and other columnists are NOT news reporters :-) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 10 22:14:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00579; Wed, 10 May 95 22:14:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06792; Wed, 10 May 1995 22:07:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 10 May 1995 22:07:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from asimov.cnam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06780; Wed, 10 May 1995 22:07:12 -0400 Received: from (eronald@localhost) by asimov.cnam.fr id EAA29569 (8.6.12/); Thu, 11 May 1995 04:05:39 +0200 From: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 04:05:39 +0200 Message-Id: <199505110205.EAA29569@asimov.cnam.fr> To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU, mehdi@armon.rain.com Subject: Re: New Model: TP755CX Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Post those prices! E. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 11 05:25:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18347; Thu, 11 May 95 05:25:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA02622; Thu, 11 May 1995 05:08:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 11 May 1995 05:08:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dark.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA02612; Thu, 11 May 1995 05:08:34 -0400 Received: from tonto-slip6.cis.brown.edu (tonto-slip6.cis.brown.edu [128.148.19.26]) by dark.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id FAA26704 for ; Thu, 11 May 1995 05:11:19 -0400 Message-Id: <199505110911.FAA26704@dark.brown.edu> X-Sender: Wai_Shan_Lam@postoffice.brown.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 05:07:47 -0400 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Subject: 755CX Any idea when the 755CX with 1.2 GB HDD will be avaliable? and how much? ~~~~~~~~ WAI-SHAN LAM ~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ waishan@ibm.net ~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~ Wai_Shan_Lam@Brown.edu ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~ 72124.2644@CompuServe.Com ~~~~~~~~ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 11 05:38:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21399; Thu, 11 May 95 05:38:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA05396; Thu, 11 May 1995 05:22:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 11 May 1995 05:22:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dark.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA05378; Thu, 11 May 1995 05:22:34 -0400 Received: from tonto-slip9.cis.brown.edu (tonto-slip9.cis.brown.edu [128.148.19.29]) by dark.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id FAA27137; Thu, 11 May 1995 05:25:13 -0400 Message-Id: <199505110925.FAA27137@dark.brown.edu> X-Sender: Wai_Shan_Lam@postoffice.brown.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 05:21:42 -0400 To: Eugene Fiume , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Subject: Re: Pentium-PPC (was New Model: TP755CX) At 17:58 5/10/95 -0400, >} I kind of figured that my next machine would be an IBM thinkpad PPC running >} OS2, when and if such a thing comes out. Is this in the cards? I heard >} that PPC's consume less power than the Pentium. Is this still true? What >} ever happened to IBMs vow to stay away from Pentiums? It must have taken >} them HOURS to eat their words :). As faw as I know, IBM has two SEPARATE team of people working for the Intel-based Thinkpads and the PPC based portables. I doubt IBM will ever leave the Intel based behind completely. I believe the first PPC notebook is due sometime this summer... late summer. The machine itself is almost ready, but OS/2 for Power is not. Some says it's slow and not stable.... takes 5 mins to boot then crash. As soon as the OS/2 team gets the version for PPC out, the whole 'war' will become very interesting. and PPC running NT will also be very interesting. I heard that the price of the PPC notebook will cost quite a bit, initially, it was in the 5 digit range, but i hope IBM will realize no one will buy a 5 $digit notebook....definitely not everyone can afford one. But it got some neat features such as built in CD-ROM and camera. Again, Applications is what it counts. Everyone (lay people) is so used to MS products that it will be difficult to use something on a non-MS system... Double non-ms is gonna driver some people nuts. Just thought I will write something to relax myself.... have a Final tomorrow. better start to work... ~~~~~~~~ WAI-SHAN LAM ~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ waishan@ibm.net ~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~ Wai_Shan_Lam@Brown.edu ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~ 72124.2644@CompuServe.Com ~~~~~~~~ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 11 07:46:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21963; Thu, 11 May 95 07:46:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16503; Thu, 11 May 1995 07:26:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 11 May 1995 07:26:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA16487; Thu, 11 May 1995 07:26:03 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA22223; Thu, 11 May 95 07:26:49 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 May 95 07:26:49 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505111126.AA22223@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu, elf@dgp.toronto.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Pentium-PPC (was New Model: TP755CX) Don't say no one will buy $5-digit note books. After all a fully loaded TP has edged into five figures for a while (and would easily get there if you could put a decent amount of memory on a TP, I find the 40Meg limit to be a problem). The high end SParc books have also always been in this price range. The current 100MHz Pentium notebook that Tadpole is making is well up into this price range too. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 11 09:46:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12198; Thu, 11 May 95 09:46:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23391; Thu, 11 May 1995 09:18:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 11 May 1995 09:18:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA23381; Thu, 11 May 1995 09:18:44 -0400 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 5989; Thu, 11 May 95 09:17:08 EDT Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 9595; Thu, 11 May 1995 09:17:08 EDT Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Thu, 11 May 95 09:17:07 EDT Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA28899; Thu, 11 May 1995 09:17:06 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 09:17:06 -0400 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9505111317.AA28899@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Wai-Shan Lam's message of Thu, 11 May 1995 05:21:42 -0400 <199505110925.FAA27137@dark.brown.edu> Subject: Pentium-PPC (was New Model: TP755CX) >As far as I know, IBM has two SEPARATE team of people working for the >Intel-based Thinkpads and the PPC based portables. I doubt IBM will ever >leave the Intel based behind completely. I believe the first PPC notebook >is due sometime this summer... late summer. Actually, a PowerPC notebook has been available for about a year, it is the IBM model N40 RS/6000. It is a 50MHz 601, I think it goes for around $10K. --andy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 11 18:20:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21956; Thu, 11 May 95 18:20:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03661; Thu, 11 May 1995 18:09:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 11 May 1995 18:09:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from armon.rain.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA03651; Thu, 11 May 1995 18:09:21 -0400 Received: by armon.rain.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0s9gPm-000DzIC; Thu, 11 May 95 15:09 PDT Message-Id: From: mehdi@armon.rain.com (Mehdi Attaran) Subject: Re: New Model: TP755CX To: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 15:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199505110205.EAA29569@asimov.cnam.fr> from "Edmund Ronald" at May 11, 95 04:05:39 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > Post those prices! OK, several folks have asked about the message I had posted regarding the Pentium upgrade and the LI batteries for the 755CE/CD. I've got price and part numbers from Entex (1-800-597-2468) and have ordered the items already. Pentium upgrade part number: IB29H8755 $1172 Lithium Ion battery part number: IB85G1513 $145 I have not been able to get any price/availability on battery charger for either the NiMH, nor the LI batteries. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mehdi Attaran mehdi@armon.rain.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!armon!mehdi | | Data: (503) 642-3270 Voice: (503) 649-0719 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 11 18:33:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28305; Thu, 11 May 95 18:33:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04767; Thu, 11 May 1995 18:25:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 11 May 1995 18:24:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA04756; Thu, 11 May 1995 18:24:57 -0400 Received: by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA70760; Thu, 11 May 1995 22:24:49 GMT Message-Id: <199505112224.AA70760@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip37-141.il.us.ibm.net(129.37.37.141) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaKmICrx; Thu May 11 22:24:40 1995 X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) From: Stephen Hosmer To: Chris Hanson To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 15:18:42 PDT Reply-To: Stephen Hosmer Subject: Re: OS2 backup to DAT tape? Addressed to: Chris Hanson tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ** Reply to note from Chris Hanson 05/04/95 03:18am -0400 I have been using ARCSolo from Cheyanne software. I admit I have been using the 30 trial, but it is a great package. It automaticly recognized my ArchiveST Python. I get around 12Mb/Min using the Adaptec SlimSCSI. It placed a controller in my Startup folder, that I subsequently moved to the Apps folder so that I don't waste the memory and boot up time unless I need it. _____________________________________ Stephen Hosmer hosmer@ibm.net ----->still using a 750C :-( From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 11 18:55:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03718; Thu, 11 May 95 18:55:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05991; Thu, 11 May 1995 18:48:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 11 May 1995 18:48:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dark.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA05981; Thu, 11 May 1995 18:48:02 -0400 Received: from cis-ts5-slip7.cis.brown.edu (cis-ts5-slip7.cis.brown.edu [128.148.19.95]) by dark.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id SAA03137; Thu, 11 May 1995 18:50:46 -0400 Message-Id: <199505112250.SAA03137@dark.brown.edu> X-Sender: Wai_Shan_Lam@postoffice.brown.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 18:47:13 -0400 To: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens), tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Subject: Re: Pentium-PPC (was New Model: TP755CX) At 09:17 5/11/95 -0400, Andrew Stevens wrote: >Actually, a PowerPC notebook has been available for about a year, it >is the IBM model N40 RS/6000. It is a 50MHz 601, I think it goes for >around $10K. > >--andy > Really! How come it's not advertised? ~~~~~~~~ WAI-SHAN LAM ~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ waishan@ibm.net ~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~ Wai_Shan_Lam@Brown.edu ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~ 72124.2644@CompuServe.Com ~~~~~~~~ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 11 18:56:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03724; Thu, 11 May 95 18:56:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06034; Thu, 11 May 1995 18:48:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 11 May 1995 18:48:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dark.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06014; Thu, 11 May 1995 18:48:25 -0400 Received: from cis-ts5-slip7.cis.brown.edu (cis-ts5-slip7.cis.brown.edu [128.148.19.95]) by dark.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id SAA03151; Thu, 11 May 1995 18:50:49 -0400 Message-Id: <199505112250.SAA03151@dark.brown.edu> X-Sender: Wai_Shan_Lam@postoffice.brown.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 18:47:17 -0400 To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar), elf@dgp.toronto.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Subject: Re: Pentium-PPC (was New Model: TP755CX) At 07:26 5/11/95 -0400, Robert Dewar wrote: >Don't say no one will buy $5-digit note books. After all a fully loaded >TP has edged into five figures for a while (and would easily get there >if you could put a decent amount of memory on a TP, I find the 40Meg >limit to be a problem). The high end SParc books have also always been >in this price range. The current 100MHz Pentium notebook that Tadpole >is making is well up into this price range too. > I am well aware of the fact that a fully loaded TP will cost almost or over the 5 digit range. I am talking about whether a lay man will pay that much for a computer. BTW, what apps do you run that needs 40MB RAM seems insufficeint? ~~~~~~~~ WAI-SHAN LAM ~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ waishan@ibm.net ~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~ Wai_Shan_Lam@Brown.edu ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~ 72124.2644@CompuServe.Com ~~~~~~~~ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 11 19:04:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14432; Thu, 11 May 95 19:04:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06568; Thu, 11 May 1995 18:57:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 11 May 1995 18:57:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06557; Thu, 11 May 1995 18:57:27 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA07789; Thu, 11 May 95 18:58:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 May 95 18:58:09 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505112258.AA07789@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu, dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU, elf@dgp.toronto.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Pentium-PPC (was New Model: TP755CX) heavy multiple compilations which need a lot of virtual memory and a big disk cache. 40M is managable, but I certainly would prefer something like that Tadpole (which has a max memory of 128meg). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 12 00:32:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27911; Fri, 12 May 95 00:32:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24709; Fri, 12 May 1995 00:23:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 12 May 1995 00:23:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA24699; Fri, 12 May 1995 00:23:01 -0400 From: Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA197422544; Fri, 12 May 1995 00:22:24 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 00:22:24 -0400 Message-Id: <950511230627_115821500@aol.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Pentium-PPC (was New Model: TP755CX) >>Actually, a PowerPC notebook has been available for about a year, >>it is the IBM model N40 RS/6000. It is a 50MHz 601, I think it goes for >>around $10K. >> >>--andy >> >> >Really! How come it's not advertised? Probably because the only OS that it will run presently (I think, anyway) is AIX. If I recall correctly, I saw an education discount for that machine that brought the price down to about $7000. Wesley Dunaway From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 12 01:53:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21377; Fri, 12 May 95 01:53:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27852; Fri, 12 May 1995 01:46:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 12 May 1995 01:46:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from VM.NMU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27841; Fri, 12 May 1995 01:46:28 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 01:46:28 -0400 Message-Id: <199505120546.BAA27841@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from netadminppp by VM.NMU.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 12 May 95 01:46:20 EST X-Sender: dmaki@pop.mail.nmu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: DMaki@nmu.edu (David Maki) Subject: 28.8 V.34 Modem Support for Thinkpad 755CE Mwave Fax Modem I thought I had read that IBM's Mwave fax modem was now supporting V.34. If this is true where can I get the software update. David Maki Director of Systems Programming and Operations Northern Michigan University Computer Center Marquette, MI 49855 (906) 227 1262 (906) 227 2247 Fax DMaki@NMU.EDU From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 12 03:21:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21356; Fri, 12 May 95 03:21:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02827; Fri, 12 May 1995 03:11:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 12 May 1995 03:11:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hpserv0.cs.uit.no by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA02800; Fri, 12 May 1995 03:11:03 -0400 Received: from orjanr.cs.uit.no by hpserv0.cs.uit.no (1.37.109.16/Task/HJ-5) id AA018482635; Fri, 12 May 1995 09:10:35 +0200 Received: by orjanr.cs.uit.no (1.38.110.45/HJ/Task-5) id AA258392635; Fri, 12 May 1995 09:10:35 +0200 From: orjanr@staff.cs.uit.no (Oerjan W. Robertsen) Message-Id: <199505120710.AA258392635@orjanr.cs.uit.no> Subject: Programming interface to IR on 755.... To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 09:10:34 +0200 (METDST) X-Uri: http://www.cs.uit.no/~orjanr X-Face: "/HK|p%-ExfN6.H^1)mU^dqZ3*maG*fiNP\2]&As,G#{[v2$WM=8vyTu$}wOhEM"CoA=6ox O]$=n>~5Gn]_~HP"lG3KE&dd@{0c6]7%=Qj])dWdu8Kf:Hq_b#fE.PtK5l"oxl/_{n|p0_!B]/x-A4 QdSb@$GPa|gVp>N$5+EPdE[!m4|^HN[y@Wt`AU%t09p>+ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23GIJ-4] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, Anyone who has tried to program communications over the TP 755 IR interfaces? Is there an own API - or can you treat it as a standard COM device? And one last question - Does anyone have pointers to the standard documents on which the 755 IR interface is based - if there is such a standard ? Thanks Xrjan -- # Xrjan W. Robertsen | Phone (work): +47 77 64 42 37 | My name and address # # Technical Support | Cellular : +47 90 09 65 76 | has norwegian chars. # # Computer Sci. Dept. | Phone (priv): +47 77 61 31 85 | in it. '\o{}' and # # University of Tromsx| Fax : +47 77 64 40 54 | '\O{}' TeX notation. # # N-9037 Norway | Finger:orjanr@orjanr.cs.uit.no| I hate using 'oe'. # # e-mail: orjanr@staff.cs.uit.no | url: http://www.cs.uit.no/~orjanr # From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 12 09:13:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27931; Fri, 12 May 95 09:13:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29387; Fri, 12 May 1995 09:01:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 12 May 1995 09:01:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA29377; Fri, 12 May 1995 09:00:57 -0400 Received: from huxley.anu.edu.au (ask611@huxley.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.12]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA07663; Fri, 12 May 1995 22:54:51 +1000 From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by huxley.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA05866; Fri, 12 May 1995 23:00:52 +1000 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 23:00:52 +1000 Message-Id: <199505121300.XAA05866@huxley.anu.edu.au> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: n40 notebook (was ....) >>>Actually, a PowerPC notebook has been available for about a year, >>>it is the IBM model N40 RS/6000. It is a 50MHz 601, I think it goes for >>>around $10K. >>> >>>--andy >>> >>> >>Really! How come it's not advertised? > >Probably because the only OS that it will run presently (I think, anyway) is >AIX. > >If I recall correctly, I saw an education discount for that machine that >brought the price down to about $7000. > the 9.5" tft screen always made it an unattractive proposition in my view - anything X is hard enough with 10.4" regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 12 16:00:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12502; Fri, 12 May 95 16:00:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29317; Fri, 12 May 1995 15:47:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 12 May 1995 15:47:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from uxa.cso.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29285; Fri, 12 May 1995 15:47:05 -0400 Received: by uxa.cso.uiuc.edu id AA28267 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for tp750@cs.utk.edu); Fri, 12 May 1995 14:46:44 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199505121946.AA28267@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: New Model: TP755CX To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (tp) Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 14:46:57 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <9505101413.AA09381@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> from "Robert Dewar" at May 10, 95 10:13:16 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > for example that the Versa P75 does NOT have an L2 cache, A pentium without > an L2 cache is crippled. I wonder how the EDO caches do. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 12 16:29:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21961; Fri, 12 May 95 16:29:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03601; Fri, 12 May 1995 16:21:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 12 May 1995 16:20:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03591; Fri, 12 May 1995 16:20:57 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA18140; Fri, 12 May 95 16:21:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 May 95 16:21:41 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505122021.AA18140@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 755CD packaging Boy, IBM really screwed up the 755CD packaging. They decided NOT to include utility and driver diskettes, but instead to make them available only on the preinstalled hard disk using disk factory. BUT, they neglected to document this, so the documentation says, contact your dealer if these diskettes are missing, and mentions nothing about disk factory. I got a pile of conflicting information from both by dealer and IBM. Some people at IBM were sure diskettes were included, some were sure they were not included. What a mess! The first time I have seen a mess of this magnitude in connection with TP's. Anyway, I am pretty sure I have the straight informatoin now, you should NOT expect to find diskettes in the packaging. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 12 16:37:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25823; Fri, 12 May 95 16:37:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04127; Fri, 12 May 1995 16:28:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 12 May 1995 16:28:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04116; Fri, 12 May 1995 16:28:11 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA11659 for ; Fri, 12 May 1995 15:28:05 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 15:28:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199505122028.PAA11659@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: 755CE & Lithuim Ion ? From the message below, can I correctly assume that the new Lithium Ion battery (for the 755CX, i guess) can work in a stock 755CE ???? or do the LI batteries only work in a 755CE which has been upgraded to a pentium? (also, as an aside, does the pentium upgrade include the 256K L2 cache that the 755CX has? i do not think the 755CE has a secondary L2 cache as is...) i though someone was saying that the charging logic for NiMH and LI are totally different.... if it does work, what kind of improvement in battery life would i get in my 755CE with a LI -vs- the NiMH the machine shipped with? thanks, Todd >OK, several folks have asked about the message I had posted regarding the >Pentium upgrade and the LI batteries for the 755CE/CD. > >I've got price and part numbers from Entex (1-800-597-2468) and have ordered >the items already. > >Pentium upgrade part number: IB29H8755 $1172 >Lithium Ion battery part number: IB85G1513 $145 > >I have not been able to get any price/availability on battery charger for >either the NiMH, nor the LI batteries. > >-- >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ >| Mehdi Attaran mehdi@armon.rain.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!armon!mehdi | >| Data: (503) 642-3270 Voice: (503) 649-0719 | >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Todd Tannenbaum email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu Director of the Model Advanced Facility voice phone: (608) 262-3118 Computer-Aided Engineering Center FAX phone: (608) 265-4546 University of Wisconsin-Madison From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 12 17:52:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04433; Fri, 12 May 95 17:52:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09570; Fri, 12 May 1995 17:43:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 12 May 1995 17:43:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09559; Fri, 12 May 1995 17:43:14 -0400 Received: from alcor.usc.edu (whittle@alcor.usc.edu [128.125.253.169]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id OAA24750; Fri, 12 May 1995 14:43:02 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by alcor.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id OAA12435; Fri, 12 May 1995 14:42:50 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199505122142.OAA12435@alcor.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 755CE & Lithuim Ion ? To: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 14:42:50 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <199505122028.PAA11659@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> from "Todd Tannenbaum" at May 12, 95 03:28:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >From the message below, can I correctly assume that the new Lithium Ion > battery (for the 755CX, i guess) can work in a stock 755CE ???? or do the > LI batteries only work in a 755CE which has been upgraded to a pentium? > i though someone was saying that the charging logic for NiMH and LI are > totally different.... It is, but if they anticipated the CE model to take a lithium battery in the near future, perhaps they built-in the necessary logic/intelligence to adjust the charge methodology to accomodate a lithium-ion battery. > if it does work, what kind of improvement in battery life would i get in my > 755CE with a LI -vs- the NiMH the machine shipped with? All things being equal, I'd say...oh, almost twice as long. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 12 18:05:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06594; Fri, 12 May 95 18:05:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10415; Fri, 12 May 1995 17:56:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 12 May 1995 17:56:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10403; Fri, 12 May 1995 17:56:44 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA02006; Fri, 12 May 95 17:57:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 May 95 17:57:33 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505122157.AA02006@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: 755CE & Lithuim Ion ? Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU twice as long exceeds IBM's estimate by a huge amount. In the IBM docmentation for the CX I seem to remember 2.4 => 3.0 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 12 21:17:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15356; Fri, 12 May 95 21:17:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20455; Fri, 12 May 1995 21:07:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 12 May 1995 21:07:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from armon.rain.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20441; Fri, 12 May 1995 21:07:34 -0400 Received: by armon.rain.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0sA5fn-000DzTC; Fri, 12 May 95 18:07 PDT Message-Id: From: mehdi@armon.rain.com (Mehdi Attaran) Subject: Re: 755CE & Lithuim Ion ? To: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 18:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199505122028.PAA11659@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> from "Todd Tannenbaum" at May 12, 95 03:28:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > >From the message below, can I correctly assume that the new Lithium Ion > battery (for the 755CX, i guess) can work in a stock 755CE ???? or do the > LI batteries only work in a 755CE which has been upgraded to a pentium? I was told that the LI batteries work in the 755CE, and 755CD as well. > (also, as an aside, does the pentium upgrade include the 256K L2 cache that > the 755CX has? i do not think the 755CE has a secondary L2 cache as is...) Yes... The upgrade is actually a motherboard replacement. I.e. the unit has to be sent to the factory for them to upgrade it. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mehdi Attaran mehdi@armon.rain.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!armon!mehdi | | Data: (503) 642-3270 Voice: (503) 649-0719 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 12 21:52:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17277; Fri, 12 May 95 21:52:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22892; Fri, 12 May 1995 21:43:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 12 May 1995 21:43:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA22880; Fri, 12 May 1995 21:43:16 -0400 From: Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA058649365; Fri, 12 May 1995 21:42:45 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 21:42:45 -0400 Message-Id: <950512214241_116951795@aol.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Mwave dsp and Win 95 I am having lots of problems with the Mwave drivers in my 755ce Thinkpad and while running Win 95. Problems include system crashes due to conflicting memory and also many wave sounds will not work when using Win 95's sound utility. I have disabled all mwave related drivers in my config.sys, autoexec.bat and both system and win.ini files. I was wondering if anyone has gotten their Mwave drivers to work correctly. Also, I was wondering if downloading the new 1.10 drivers would serve to correct the problem. Thanks From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 12 23:40:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27081; Fri, 12 May 95 23:40:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29556; Fri, 12 May 1995 23:30:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 12 May 1995 23:30:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29546; Fri, 12 May 1995 23:30:53 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10567; Fri, 12 May 95 20:30:47 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) id UAA08364; Fri, 12 May 1995 20:30:47 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9505122030.ZM8362@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 20:30:46 -0700 In-Reply-To: Randal Whittle "Re: 755CE & Lithuim Ion ?" (May 12, 2:42pm) References: <199505122142.OAA12435@alcor.usc.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: Randal Whittle Subject: Re: 755CE & Lithuim Ion ? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On May 12, 2:42pm, Randal Whittle wrote: > Subject: Re: 755CE & Lithuim Ion ? > > >From the message below, can I correctly assume that the new Lithium Ion > > battery (for the 755CX, i guess) can work in a stock 755CE ???? or do the > > LI batteries only work in a 755CE which has been upgraded to a pentium? > > > i though someone was saying that the charging logic for NiMH and LI are > > totally different.... > > It is, but if they anticipated the CE model to take a lithium > battery in the near future, perhaps they built-in the necessary > logic/intelligence to adjust the charge methodology to accomodate > a lithium-ion battery. Randy, I was talking to a couple of IBM engineers a while back, and they mentioned that one of the reasons the ThinkPad battery is so expensive is because it contains an 8051 microcontroller, voltage regulator, and charge circuitry. In other words, the battery supposedly contains all the charging logic. With that in mind, does anyone know if the Lithium Ion batteries will work in older ThinkPad models, especially the 755C :) Robert -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Robert George Computer Engineer (408) 656-3316 Fax: (408) 656-2814 Army Research Laboratory/AMSRL-SS-IC/2800 Powder Mill Rd/Adelphi, MD 20783 URL: http://cs.nps.navy.mil/people/phd/george "I am Homer of Borg, prepare to be assim... Ooooooooh donuts!" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 12 23:45:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27911; Fri, 12 May 95 23:45:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29848; Fri, 12 May 1995 23:36:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 12 May 1995 23:36:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA29838; Fri, 12 May 1995 23:36:28 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10747; Fri, 12 May 95 20:36:23 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id UAA08379; Fri, 12 May 1995 20:36:22 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9505122036.ZM8377@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 20:36:21 -0700 In-Reply-To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) "Re: 755CE & Lithuim Ion ?" (May 12, 5:57pm) References: <9505122157.AA02006@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755CE & Lithuim Ion ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On May 12, 5:57pm, Robert Dewar wrote: > Subject: Re: 755CE & Lithuim Ion ? > twice as long exceeds IBM's estimate by a huge amount. In the IBM > docmentation for the CX I seem to remember 2.4 => 3.0 >-- End of excerpt from Robert Dewar If the Lithium Ion battery can sustain a current hog like the Pentium for 2 - 3 hours, it would conceivably sustain a 486 for considerably longer. Robert -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Robert George Computer Engineer (408) 656-3316 Fax: (408) 656-2814 Army Research Laboratory/AMSRL-SS-IC/2800 Powder Mill Rd/Adelphi, MD 20783 URL: http://cs.nps.navy.mil/people/phd/george "I am Homer of Borg, prepare to be assim... Ooooooooh donuts!" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 13 06:42:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05138; Sat, 13 May 95 06:42:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA17254; Sat, 13 May 1995 06:29:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 13 May 1995 06:29:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA17243; Sat, 13 May 1995 06:29:35 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA24079; Sat, 13 May 95 06:30:21 -0400 Date: Sat, 13 May 95 06:30:21 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505131030.AA24079@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: george@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: 755CE & Lithuim Ion ? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU the batteries for the 755C and 755CD are completely different physically. I assume the CE batteries look like the CD ones (the CD ones are completely rectangular.  From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 13 10:47:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00426; Sat, 13 May 95 10:47:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02496; Sat, 13 May 1995 10:35:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 13 May 1995 10:35:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02473; Sat, 13 May 1995 10:35:30 -0400 Received: from alcor.usc.edu (whittle@alcor.usc.edu [128.125.253.169]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id HAA01038; Sat, 13 May 1995 07:35:28 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by alcor.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id HAA07300; Sat, 13 May 1995 07:35:26 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199505131435.HAA07300@alcor.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 755CE & Lithuim Ion ? To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 07:35:26 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9505122157.AA02006@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> from "Robert Dewar" at May 12, 95 05:57:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > twice as long exceeds IBM's estimate by a huge amount. In the IBM > docmentation for the CX I seem to remember 2.4 => 3.0 Well, it was just a guesstimate, and I did qualify the statement with "ceteris paribus". :) But in most cases, as I recall, Lithium Ion has about twice the charge density (can deliver twice the amp-hours) than NiMH. All else being equal, this would seem to deliver about twice the amount of charge time. Of course, obviously, something is *not* equal. :) ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 13 10:49:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00442; Sat, 13 May 95 10:49:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02890; Sat, 13 May 1995 10:41:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 13 May 1995 10:41:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02880; Sat, 13 May 1995 10:41:49 -0400 Received: from alcor.usc.edu (whittle@alcor.usc.edu [128.125.253.169]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id HAA01187; Sat, 13 May 1995 07:41:47 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by alcor.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id HAA07357; Sat, 13 May 1995 07:41:46 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199505131441.HAA07357@alcor.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 755CE & Lithuim Ion ? To: george@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (Robert George) Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 07:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9505122036.ZM8377@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> from "Robert George" at May 12, 95 08:36:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > On May 12, 5:57pm, Robert Dewar wrote: > > Subject: Re: 755CE & Lithuim Ion ? > > twice as long exceeds IBM's estimate by a huge amount. In the IBM > > docmentation for the CX I seem to remember 2.4 => 3.0 > >-- End of excerpt from Robert Dewar > > If the Lithium Ion battery can sustain a current hog like the Pentium for > 2 - 3 hours, it would conceivably sustain a 486 for considerably longer Yeah, that's kinda what I had in mind when I gave my guessimate-- "all things being equal". :) ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 13 16:22:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04916; Sat, 13 May 95 16:22:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21908; Sat, 13 May 1995 16:15:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 13 May 1995 16:15:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21872; Sat, 13 May 1995 16:15:03 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA03271; Sat, 13 May 95 16:15:48 -0400 Date: Sat, 13 May 95 16:15:48 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505132015.AA03271@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: george@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: 755CE & Lithuim Ion ? Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU what makes you say "a current hog like the Pentium". This is the low voltage 75MHz part, I am not aware of it taking significantly more power than a DX4. In practice, the screen will dominate anyway (asuming we are talking the TFT version). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 15 09:55:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11320; Mon, 15 May 95 09:55:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18972; Mon, 15 May 1995 09:40:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 15 May 1995 09:40:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from aaRS.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18962; Mon, 15 May 1995 09:40:29 -0400 Received: by aaRS.mit.edu (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id AA08275; Mon, 15 May 95 09:40:37 -0400 From: "Arturo J. Morales" Message-Id: <9505150940.ZM8273@aaRS.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 09:40:36 -0400 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Dot Clock Speeds for 750Cs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Hi, In going keeping up with my constant attempts to give my TP an identity complex, I'm back to Linux... I'm still running X11R5 though, and i need to find out the dot clocks that i can assign to the video card, I have an external monitor that is supported by linux, but I can't seem to get anything higher than 640x48 If anyone out there is using their TP's with an external monitor under linux, I would really appreciate it if you could send me your Xconfig (or whatever it is called in X11R6 since I will install it if I have to) BTW, if anyone is keeping score, I switched back to linux because i am much more confortable with gcc than gcc/2 or anything else (besides, it's free! :) Thanks in advance! Art PS: does anyone have the sound stuff working under linux? as far as I know, it does work but there is some sort of propietary coding involved and they can't release it to us... any hope that I can annoy my lab mates with Doom special effects? PS2, sorry if the lines are screwed up, I'm using the text interfaceto this mailer (MediaMail aka Zmail) and it is a pain! -- Arturo J. Morales (RPI '94) | art@aars.mit.edu Department of Biology | Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology http://minihelix.mit.edu/top.html | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "That Person you see in the Mirror is made up of D-Amino Acids" --C.P. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 15 16:47:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04571; Mon, 15 May 95 16:47:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15876; Mon, 15 May 1995 16:37:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 15 May 1995 16:37:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA15866; Mon, 15 May 1995 16:37:28 -0400 Received: from dormnet.stu1.uconn.edu by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 15 May 95 16:36:53 EDT Received: from DORMNET/MAILQUEUE by dormnet.stu1.uconn.edu (Mercury 1.21); 15 May 95 16:37:23 GMT+7 Received: from MAILQUEUE by DORMNET (Mercury 1.21); 15 May 95 16:36:50 GMT+7 From: "Guy Farrell" Organization: UConn Residence Halls To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 16:36:41 EST Subject: Help:Sticky hinges & abuse = cracked cover assembly! Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: I'll be ordering a new "Top Cover Assembly", and asking tech support for help, but has anyone had similar troubles? The hinges on my TP seem especially tight. One and 1/2 years of college, travels, and abuse have nearly broken the plastic cover directly above the right hinge on the outside: | | | | | ____________________________________________\/\/\/\/\|<--BREAK |-------| * * * * * * * |-------| on |________\ [][][][][][] [] /_______|opposite | ------------------------------------------- | side |Esc Ins Home PgUp| I've used epoxy and fiberglass, but the plastic is to slick for good adhesion. Any suggestions to loosen the hinges? Guy ...................................................................... . Guy W. Farrell . . Laboratory Science House . . University of Connecticut - Class of 199? . . . .E-mail: gfarrell@dormnet.stu1.uconn.edu . .V-mail: (203) 427-2864 . ...................................................................... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 16 08:33:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09663; Tue, 16 May 95 08:33:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21580; Tue, 16 May 1995 08:21:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 16 May 1995 08:21:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ion.apana.org.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA21570; Tue, 16 May 1995 08:21:42 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 16 May 95 22:22 EST From: timn@ion.apana.org.au (Tim Noonan) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Does the IBM SCSI PCMCIA card work with HP Scanget 3P? Hi, HP are of the opinion that the PCMCIA SCSI card from IBM isn't compatible with their HP Scanget 3P scanner. Considering both support ASPI and other SCSI standards I find this difficult to believe. Does anyone on the maling list have a definitive answer on this by any chance? Thanks for any information Tim From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 16 09:57:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18727; Tue, 16 May 95 09:57:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27495; Tue, 16 May 1995 09:44:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 16 May 1995 09:44:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA27483; Tue, 16 May 1995 09:44:43 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sBMvk-0004u7C; Tue, 16 May 95 08:45 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sBMvj-0002nmC; Tue, 16 May 95 08:44 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sBMvh-0002wvC; Tue, 16 May 95 08:44 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Help:Sticky hinges & abuse = cracked cover assembly! To: GFARRELL@dormnet.stu1.uconn.edu (Guy Farrell) Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 08:44:57 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: from "Guy Farrell" at May 15, 95 04:36:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What model? For the 720 this is a known problem and will be repaired at no charge by IBM. > I'll be ordering a new "Top Cover Assembly", and asking tech support > for help, but has anyone had similar troubles? > The hinges on my TP seem especially tight. One and 1/2 years of > college, travels, and abuse have nearly broken the plastic cover > directly above the right hinge on the outside: > | | > | | > | ____________________________________________\/\/\/\/\|<--BREAK > |-------| * * * * * * * |-------| on > |________\ [][][][][][] [] /_______|opposite > | ------------------------------------------- | side > |Esc Ins Home PgUp| > > I've used epoxy and fiberglass, but the plastic is to slick for good > adhesion. Any suggestions to loosen the hinges? > > Guy > ...................................................................... > . Guy W. Farrell . > . Laboratory Science House . > . University of Connecticut - Class of 199? . > . . > .E-mail: gfarrell@dormnet.stu1.uconn.edu . > .V-mail: (203) 427-2864 . > ...................................................................... > -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 17 12:17:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29895; Wed, 17 May 95 12:17:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16629; Wed, 17 May 1995 11:59:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 17 May 1995 11:59:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA16619; Wed, 17 May 1995 11:59:45 -0400 Received: by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA151528; Wed, 17 May 1995 15:59:39 GMT Message-Id: <199505171559.AA151528@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip37-19.il.us.ibm.net(129.37.37.19) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaMtkCkR; Wed May 17 15:59:27 1995 Date: Wed, 17 May 95 08:53:27 PDT From: hosmer@ibm.net (Stephen Hosmer) Reply-To: hosmer@ibm.net (Stephen Hosmer) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail v1.1 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Subject: request address? Could you post the address for requests. Those of us w/ catastrophic HD failures, that caused us to loose our address books would like it again. ________________________________ Stephen Hosmer shosmer@ibm.net Does anybody want to buy this 750C? From owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Wed May 17 19:52:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08682; Wed, 17 May 95 19:52:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03603; Wed, 17 May 1995 19:09:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 17 May 1995 19:09:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@cs.utk.edu Received: from gar.uhc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA03590; Wed, 17 May 1995 19:09:30 -0400 Received: from lochness.uhc.com by gar.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA30459; Wed, 17 May 1995 17:40:15 -0500 Received: by lochness.uhc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA67402; Wed, 17 May 1995 17:40:21 -0500 From: rol@uhc.com (Roleigh Martin) Message-Id: <9505172240.AA67402@lochness.uhc.com> Subject: for 755CX, should I ord. IC DRAM or DIMM RAM 16mb? To: tp750@cs.utk.edu (IBM 750 newsgroup) Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 17:40:21 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What is the difference between the 16mb IC DRAM Card, p/n 92G7234 and the 16mb DIMM Memory Module for the Thinkpad 755CX (the pentium thinkpad)? I gather (guessing) that the IC DRAM has extra parity checking -- is that the only difference? How about speed? What do you guys prefer? Thanks! -- Roleigh Martin, Rt. MN06-6130 Opinions are mine not UHC | UHC, Advanced Technology AT&T/vmail: (612) 945-6529| 9705 Data Park Drive FAX: (612) 945-6502| Minnetonka, MN 55343 Email: rol@lochness.uhc.com| ** B'days are good for health ** Statistics show that people with most b'days live the longest When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 17 21:38:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20024; Wed, 17 May 95 21:38:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09576; Wed, 17 May 1995 21:29:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 17 May 1995 21:29:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09561; Wed, 17 May 1995 21:29:02 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA10123; Wed, 17 May 95 21:29:44 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 May 95 21:29:44 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505180129.AA10123@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: rol@uhc.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: for 755CX, should I ord. IC DRAM or DIMM RAM 16mb? the maximum IBM memory is 16 megs with a card, and 32 megs with DIMMS (2 x 16 with the adapter). Probably if you are just getting 16 megs, then get a DIMM, since you can add another 16 megs later. You can get 32 meg cards, I got one nearly a year ago, for about $2000, now I think you can get them for much less. Someone said you could get 32 meg DIMS, but I have not been able to verify this rumour (with 32 meg DIMS, you could take a CX to 72megs total. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 17 21:42:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20813; Wed, 17 May 95 21:42:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09969; Wed, 17 May 1995 21:35:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 17 May 1995 21:34:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA09959; Wed, 17 May 1995 21:34:57 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA10130; Wed, 17 May 95 21:35:45 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 May 95 21:35:45 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505180135.AA10130@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 755CX first impressions I picked up a 755CX yesterday with the SVGA screen. The screen is very nice, fully comparable to the previous screens, but the extra resolution really helps readability, and you can get significantly more on the screen. The Lithium Ion battery figures are *accurate* (for the first time, IBM always was less than frank [that's being polite) about the NiCad times. So what I see is that the Lithium Ion batteries give at least 50% more running time. [today, I ran the CX continuously in high power mode, doing lots of diskete and disk IO, I have 40 megs memory total, and the battery lasted 3 hours 15 minutes). So the pubvlished specs, which show a much smaller advantage lie, and merely reflect the fact that the Nicad figures are inflated while the LI results are not (I talked to one of the support people, and noted that, and he said that he was glad to hear it, and perhaps marketing had finally got the message from the help center guys complaining about the bogus battery life figures!) The MWave modem works fine, but I had to get a special 4 page FAX from the help center to tell me exactly how to get it to work. By the way, I was tremendously impressed by those guys, they are very sharp and really work hard to assist. I had one glitch with my CX, which is that hte little blue ribbon came off the battery. Well they are sending me a replacement by overnight express, with a request to send back the other one later. Again, impressive service I think. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 17 21:51:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21375; Wed, 17 May 95 21:51:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10847; Wed, 17 May 1995 21:45:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 17 May 1995 21:45:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA10825; Wed, 17 May 1995 21:45:30 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA12567; Wed, 17 May 95 21:46:17 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 May 95 21:46:17 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505180146.AA12567@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 755CD for sale I hope it is not too inappropriate to advertise a machine for sale here. I bought a 755CD with 540 meg drive, 100MHz processor, and spare battery, but almost immediately decided to switch to a 755CX (no CD ROM, but I wanted to move to the Pentium immediately. So I now have he 755CD for sale, it is opened, but barely used (the 540 meg drive is completely untouched and still has all the preloaded software, the little experimentation I did with it was another hard drive. It is in the original box, bought from an authorized dealer, with all the parts and manuals etc. The TFT screen is close to perfect, a very careful scan showed one barely perceptible pixel stuck blue at the edge of the screen. If anyone is interested, send me email with an offer. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 17 22:24:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26136; Wed, 17 May 95 22:24:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13123; Wed, 17 May 1995 22:17:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 17 May 1995 22:17:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA13113; Wed, 17 May 1995 22:17:28 -0400 Received: from p78.slip.net (sfsp42.slip.net [204.160.88.212]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA16935 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 19:17:19 -0700 Message-Id: <199505180217.TAA16935@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 19:17:30 -0700 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: 755CX first impressions (1.2 gig, 28.8modem?) At 09:35 PM 5/17/95 -0400, Robert Dewar wrote: >I picked up a 755CX yesterday with the SVGA screen. The screen is very >nice, fully comparable to the previous screens, but the extra resolution >really helps readability, and you can get significantly more on the screen. Thanks for the report! I'm dying to get hold of one, but I really want to wait for the 1.2 gig drive that is supposed to come out at the end of this month (anyone know more about that? I called ibm direct and they hadn't heard of it). I was wondering about the readability, with small fonts and such, glad to hear it looks good. [...] >[today, I ran the CX continuously in high power mode, doing lots of >diskete and disk IO, I have 40 megs memory total, and the battery >lasted 3 hours 15 minutes). So the pubvlished specs, which show a Fantastic! >The MWave modem works fine, but I had to get a special 4 page FAX >from the help center to tell me exactly how to get it to work. By >the way, I was tremendously impressed by those guys, they are >very sharp and really work hard to assist. I remember hearing somewhere that there's a software upgrade to bring the mwave modem to 28.8, can anyone confirm? ____________________________________________________________________ http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 17 22:48:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29915; Wed, 17 May 95 22:48:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14889; Wed, 17 May 1995 22:41:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 17 May 1995 22:41:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA14844; Wed, 17 May 1995 22:41:05 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA04883; Wed, 17 May 95 22:41:50 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 May 95 22:41:50 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505180241.AA04883@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: jesse@spine.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755CX first impressions (1.2 gig, 28.8modem?) don't count in actually being able to buy a CX with a 1.2 gig disk, so far I have not seen that announced as a product. The disk itself has an order number and price already, but remember when the 810 meg drive was announced it was months before you could buy it in a machine. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 18 02:33:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29630; Thu, 18 May 95 02:33:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28666; Thu, 18 May 1995 02:23:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 18 May 1995 02:23:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA28653; Thu, 18 May 1995 02:23:19 -0400 Received: from p41.slip.net (sfsp79.slip.net [204.160.88.175]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA07114 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 23:23:12 -0700 Message-Id: <199505180623.XAA07114@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 23:23:25 -0700 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: 755CX first impressions (1.2 gig, 28.8modem?) At 10:41 PM 5/17/95 -0400, Robert Dewar wrote: >don't count in actually being able to buy a CX with a 1.2 gig disk, so far >I have not seen that announced as a product. The disk itself has an order >number and price already, but remember when the 810 meg drive was >announced it was months before you could buy it in a machine. Ouch, you really know how to hurt a guy :) You do have a point, I'm going to give it a few weeks into June, just in case though. When I bought my 755cs I settled for a 350 because my previous machine had died, and I needed a new one quickly (would have had to wait for a bigger drive). 810 is a significant enough amount of space, but I could probably find something to do with the other 400 :) ____________________________________________________________________ http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 18 10:38:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10265; Thu, 18 May 95 10:38:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23788; Thu, 18 May 1995 10:24:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 18 May 1995 10:24:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23747; Thu, 18 May 1995 10:24:31 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA00438; Thu, 18 May 95 06:21:54 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 May 95 06:21:54 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505181021.AA00438@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: jesse@spine.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755CX first impressions (1.2 gig, 28.8modem?) also, if you want a CX, my advice is to buy fast. There are now NO CX's left in New York that I know of. They disappeared immedidately. IBM tends to let a few leak out right away, and then it can be a LONG wait before they really start to appear. The 755CD was like that, it was months after the introduction that you could really buy one. I really don't think there is any chance at all of the 1.2 gig drive showing up in June. You are expecting another announcement almost right away of a new product. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 18 10:38:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10270; Thu, 18 May 95 10:38:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24027; Thu, 18 May 1995 10:26:17 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 18 May 1995 10:26:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mthood.ohsu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA24008; Thu, 18 May 1995 10:26:14 -0400 Received: by mthood.ohsu.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI.AUTO) for tp750@cs.utk.edu id HAA26517; Thu, 18 May 1995 07:25:37 -0700 From: "Ronald Sakaguchi" Message-Id: <9505180725.ZM26515@mthood.ohsu.edu> Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 07:25:30 -0700 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Li ion battery order info and faq? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Could someone please repost the order info for the Li ion battery upgrade for the TP 755CD? What is the availability for the battery? Also, where is the faq located for this group? I'm thinking of installing OS/2 Warp on my 755CD and want to review the procedure and potential problems. Thanks! Ron -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ronald L. Sakaguchi, DDS, MS, PhD Dept of Biomaterials & Biomechanics Associate Professor Oregon Health Sciences University voice: (503) 494-8692 611 SW Campus Drive, SD-503 fax: (503) 494-8260 Portland, OR 97201-3097 rls@mthood.ohsu.edu ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 18 10:41:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10724; Thu, 18 May 95 10:41:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23789; Thu, 18 May 1995 10:24:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 18 May 1995 10:24:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA23770; Thu, 18 May 1995 10:24:36 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA25444; Thu, 18 May 95 05:58:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 May 95 05:58:10 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505180958.AA25444@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU, jesse@spine.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755CX first impressions (1.2 gig, 28.8modem?) one other important point about the SVGA CX is that it is probably NOT as convenient for multi-media work as the VGA machines for two reasons. 1. The 600 x 800 mode works only in 256 colors. Unlike a CRT where you can modify the resolution, the resolution of a TFT is of course fixed. This means that if you want to work in 64K color mode, you work with a small 480 x 640 image centered in the screen (note that full screen DOS sessions are also shrunk this way). 2. You cannot have both the TFT and an external VGA (480 x 640) display at the same time (for the same basic reason, the TFT is fundamentally 600 x 800 and cannot be operated at 480 x 640). For my purposes, these limitations do not matter, but they are worth being aware of in deciding which way to go. Probably if you are interested in multi-media, the 755CD is a better bet (it can be upgraded to the PENTIUM mother board). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 18 11:23:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14776; Thu, 18 May 95 11:23:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27909; Thu, 18 May 1995 11:08:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 18 May 1995 11:08:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA27890; Thu, 18 May 1995 11:08:37 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144281>; Thu, 18 May 1995 11:08:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: Robert Dewar's message as of May 18, 10:52am X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar), tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755CX first impressions (1.2 gig, 28.8modem?) Message-Id: <95May18.110826edt.144281@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 11:08:20 -0400 } 1. The 600 x 800 mode works only in 256 colors. Unlike a CRT where you } can modify the resolution, the resolution of a TFT is of course fixed. } This means that if you want to work in 64K color mode, you work with a } small 480 x 640 image centered in the screen (note that full screen DOS } sessions are also shrunk this way). This is very interesting, because the standard release blurb specifically says " ... 10.4-inch diagonal SVGA Black Matrix TFT displays that give you 65,536 colours at 800x600 resolution." [All right, it's "colors" in American Inglish.] So what you're saying is that you get an 800x600 screen, at 16bpp, but that you only have access to a smaller viewport. So IBM is not lying, but they're certainly not telling the whole story. For me, the higher colour density matters. This is pretty silly, because the smaller viewport is, what, 40% smaller than the full-screen 640x480 of the CE/CD series? } For my purposes, these limitations do not matter, but they are worth being } aware of in deciding which way to go. Probably if you are interested in } multi-media, the 755CD is a better bet (it can be upgraded to the PENTIUM } mother board). Indeed, the Pentium upgrade is looking more attractive for my CE than it did before. I still won't bite until it's a P90 or above. Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 18 13:50:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07347; Thu, 18 May 95 13:50:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08332; Thu, 18 May 1995 13:32:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 18 May 1995 13:32:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08322; Thu, 18 May 1995 13:32:30 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sC9RW-0004uMC; Thu, 18 May 95 12:33 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sC9RV-0002nbC; Thu, 18 May 95 12:33 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sC9RU-0002wvC; Thu, 18 May 95 12:33 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: 755CX first impressions (1.2 gig, 28.8modem?) To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 12:32:59 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9505181021.AA00438@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> from "Robert Dewar" at May 18, 95 06:21:54 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > also, if you want a CX, my advice is to buy fast. There are now NO CX's > left in New York that I know of. They disappeared immedidately. IBM tends > to let a few leak out right away, and then it can be a LONG wait before > they really start to appear. The 755CD was like that, it was months > after the introduction that you could really buy one. Maybe you can help confirm this. IBM normally builds its initial production lot in Japan. High volume production is done in Mexico. Thus this may account for the period of time between initial release and "when they really start to appear". -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 18 14:54:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14056; Thu, 18 May 95 14:54:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12989; Thu, 18 May 1995 14:42:10 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 18 May 1995 14:42:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA12979; Thu, 18 May 1995 14:42:06 -0400 Received: from sfsp136.slip.net (sfsp136.slip.net [204.160.88.118]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA26888 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 11:30:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199505181830.LAA26888@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 11:30:56 -0700 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: 755CX first impressions (1.2 gig, 28.8modem?) >This is very interesting, because the standard release blurb specifically says > > " ... 10.4-inch diagonal SVGA Black Matrix TFT displays that give > you 65,536 colours at 800x600 resolution." > >[All right, it's "colors" in American Inglish.] > >So what you're saying is that you get an 800x600 screen, at 16bpp, but that >you only have access to a smaller viewport. So IBM is not lying, but they're >certainly not telling the whole story. For me, the higher colour density >matters. I'd say that's as close to lying as you can get :) I'm disappointed, that was what had me the most excited.. ____________________________________________________________________ http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 18 15:01:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14715; Thu, 18 May 95 15:01:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13575; Thu, 18 May 1995 14:52:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 18 May 1995 14:52:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shell1.best.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA13564; Thu, 18 May 1995 14:52:14 -0400 From: Received: from 204.156.137.12 (sandy.vip.best.com [204.156.137.12]) by shell1.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA12970 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 11:51:53 -0701 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 11:51:53 -0701 Message-Id: <199505181852.LAA12970@shell1.best.com> Subject: 755cx - Mailorder YES, IBM-Direct NO (Long) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) Hello All, I just ordered a 755cx and was "stunned" by its availability. I've been working in high-level Marketing positions with various computer manufacturers here in Silicon Valley for almost 16 years and still don't understand how/why some manufacturers distribute new product the way they do. I shouldn't be surprised, but was in this case. Once I decided it was time to buy a new laptop, I quickly narrowed my choices down to several of the new (and I thought) available Pentium models. I called several resellers looking for price and availability for the new TI-5000 TravelMate and the response was mostly laughter because apparently TI (and many retailers) are advertising it heavily, but don't have it in stock. Several, including CDW (Computer Discount Warehouse) indicated that they didn't expect delivery on the TI-5000 until sometime in June. No problem, if I have to wait anyway, I figured I'd wait for the IBM 755cx (which is virtually invisible in magazine advertising and only briefly mentioned on the net (this mailing list, the laptop newsgroup, and IBM's WWW Page). So, I call IBM Direct (2-days ago) for price and availability and I'm told that the 755cx won't be released until June 6th (540Mb model) and June 27th (810Mb model). Okay, I can wait...I place an order. Why call other resellers to get price and availability if IBM tells me its new laptop won't be released until June? Yesterday, I call my sales rep at CDW (I REALLY like them - one of the best mailorder houses anywhere) to order a non-related product and mention the fact that I ordered the 755cx directly from IBM and was wondering when CDW expected delivery (they're are big IBM reseller). My rep is pretty knowledgeable about the products they carry and figured mid-June would be the earliest delivery date, but decided to check his computer database anyway. To BOTH our surprise, they had just received 36 units and could ship immediately (at a lower price and NO sales tax). The 755cx shipped yesterday and will arrive via Fed-X tomorrow morning. Obviously, I cancelled my order with IBM Direct. My point is, don't believe everything manufacturers tell you. The sales rep I spoke to at IBM Direct was VERY knowledgeable about their products and didn't make a mistake. I even asked him when IBM resellers would receive their first shipments of the 755cx and he quickly told me that IBM makes them available to IBM Direct first and then resellers. He told me mid-to-late June would be the earliest and many resellers wouldn't receive them until July and August. I'm sure glad I called CDW yesterday. By the way, I have no connection with CDW except that I'm a very happy customer. I buy lots of computer stuff throughout the year and CDW is the best mailorder house I've ever purchased from. They sell most popular brands and must maintain a huge inventory because they almost always have what I want in stock ready to ship. They ship the day you order and I have NEVER had any delivery problems. But the most important things about CDW is their 30-day no-questions-asked return/refund policy and their low prices. My CDW sales rep will generally match or beat any price. Use CDW's advertised prices as a reference and then call for your best deal. Call Derek at 1-800-800-4239 x7342. Tell him Sandy sent you (I should receive a sales commission for this ;-). Call other places first, get your best price, THEN call CDW. _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +-----.oOOo--()--oOOo.-------+ | InterNet : sandy@sandy.com | +-------------- Oooo.--------+ .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 18 16:26:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27928; Thu, 18 May 95 16:26:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18837; Thu, 18 May 1995 16:14:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 18 May 1995 16:14:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shell1.best.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18827; Thu, 18 May 1995 16:14:32 -0400 From: Received: from 204.156.137.12 (sandy.vip.best.com [204.156.137.12]) by shell1.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA01840 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 13:12:59 -0701 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 13:12:59 -0701 Message-Id: <199505182013.NAA01840@shell1.best.com> Subject: Re: 755CX first impressions (1.2 gig, 28.8modem?) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) >>This is very interesting, because the standard release blurb specifically says >> >> " ... 10.4-inch diagonal SVGA Black Matrix TFT displays that give >> you 65,536 colours at 800x600 resolution." >> >>[All right, it's "colors" in American Inglish.] >> >>So what you're saying is that you get an 800x600 screen, at 16bpp, but that >>you only have access to a smaller viewport. So IBM is not lying, but they're >>certainly not telling the whole story. For me, the higher colour density >>matters. >I'd say that's as close to lying as you can get :) I'm disappointed, that >was what had me the most excited.. Wait a minute...let me get this right...I missed the initial discussion. Are you telling me the new 755cx I bought (which is being delivered Friday) does NOT support 800x600 resolution at 65K colors??? This is probably the number one reason I purchased the 755cx. I do alot of image editing on my desktop system and wanted to be able to do atleast some of the work on my new laptop. The color depth is VERY important for this type of application and IBM specifically states that its active-matrix display DOES support 800x600 at 65K colors. Here is an exact quote from the 755cx product description I took from IBM's WWW site: "Now, with the ThinkPad 755cx, we bring you another 10.4-inch diagonal SVGA Black Matrix TFT displays that give you 65,536 colors at 800 x 600 resolution". What's going on? _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +-----.oOOo--()--oOOo.-------+ | InterNet : sandy@sandy.com | +-------------- Oooo.--------+ .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 18 16:30:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28565; Thu, 18 May 95 16:30:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18538; Thu, 18 May 1995 16:09:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 18 May 1995 16:09:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA18520; Thu, 18 May 1995 16:09:21 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id QAA23994; Thu, 18 May 1995 16:13:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 16:13:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Thinkpad List Subject: Refurb list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Someone here once posted the list of available refurbished units (was it also from PC Direct?) and I promptly looked at it, hmmphed and deleted it. Oops. Now a coworker of mine needs a 100% sound blaster compatible notebook (to use some DOS based stuff designed around the SB chipset) and I thought the 755 would be a good choice. The 755C in a number of publications is ~$3000, so I thought a refurb could offer some savings. If anyone has the list sitting around, I'd appreciate it being fowarded to me. Of, for that matter, if anyone knows of a 755 for sale used, that would be acceptable as well. thanks to all. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 18 17:05:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00548; Thu, 18 May 95 17:05:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21035; Thu, 18 May 1995 16:54:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 18 May 1995 16:54:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from merle.acns.nwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21021; Thu, 18 May 1995 16:54:33 -0400 Received: by merle.acns.nwu.edu (1.37.109.16/20.3) id AA017240445; Thu, 18 May 1995 15:54:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 15:54:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Conrad Albrecht-Buehler Sender: Conrad Albrecht-Buehler Reply-To: Conrad Albrecht-Buehler Subject: Re: for 755CX, should I ord. IC DRAM or DIMM RAM 16mb? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9505180129.AA10123@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Does anyone know why DIMMS won't work with the 355s? The manual just says it won't support it. I'd like to add more memory to mine, but those pesky cards limit me alot. see ya. --Conrad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- conrada-b@nwu.edu "You know, my father only gave me one piece of advice. He said, 'Son, don't ever get married; go to sea.'" --Sting From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 18 17:15:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08850; Thu, 18 May 95 17:15:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21621; Thu, 18 May 1995 17:02:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 18 May 1995 17:02:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA21609; Thu, 18 May 1995 17:02:38 -0400 Received: from sfsp136.slip.net (sfsp97.slip.net [204.160.88.157]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA10997; Thu, 18 May 1995 13:53:35 -0700 Message-Id: <199505182053.NAA10997@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 13:53:41 -0700 To: sandy@sandy.com, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: 755CX first impressions (1.2 gig, 28.8modem?) At 01:12 PM 5/18/95 -0701, sandy@sandy.com wrote: >Wait a minute...let me get this right...I missed the initial discussion. >Are you telling me the new 755cx I bought (which is being delivered Friday) >does NOT support 800x600 resolution at 65K colors??? This is probably the >number one reason I purchased the 755cx. [...] >IBM specifically states that its active-matrix display >DOES support 800x600 at 65K colors. Here is an exact quote from the >755cx product description I took from IBM's WWW site: "Now, with the >ThinkPad 755cx, we bring you another 10.4-inch diagonal SVGA Black Matrix >TFT displays that give you 65,536 colors at 800 x 600 resolution". > >What's going on? Here's the message we're referring to: -------------- From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Subject: Re: 755CX first impressions (1.2 gig, 28.8modem?) one other important point about the SVGA CX is that it is probably NOT as convenient for multi-media work as the VGA machines for two reasons. 1. The 600 x 800 mode works only in 256 colors. Unlike a CRT where you can modify the resolution, the resolution of a TFT is of course fixed. This means that if you want to work in 64K color mode, you work with a small 480 x 640 image centered in the screen (note that full screen DOS sessions are also shrunk this way). [...] ____________________________________________________________________ http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 18 18:46:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18970; Thu, 18 May 95 18:46:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25698; Thu, 18 May 1995 18:38:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 18 May 1995 18:38:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25686; Thu, 18 May 1995 18:38:41 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA01605; Thu, 18 May 95 18:39:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 May 95 18:39:27 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505182239.AA01605@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: dwhite@shadow.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Refurb list the 755C is NOT 100% sound blaster compatible From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 18 18:47:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18975; Thu, 18 May 95 18:47:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25494; Thu, 18 May 1995 18:35:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 18 May 1995 18:34:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25483; Thu, 18 May 1995 18:34:54 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA01555; Thu, 18 May 95 18:35:40 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 May 95 18:35:40 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505182235.AA01555@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: jesse@spine.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755CX first impressions (1.2 gig, 28.8modem?) my information here just comes from the fact that I am offered only three choices of resolutions after installing the CD drivers 640 x 480 x 256 800 x 600 x 256 640 x 480 x 65536 this may just be a driver problem, after all 800 x 600 x 65536 requires 800 x 600 x 2 = 960000 < 1 megabyte of video RAM so it seems like the higher resolution at 65536 colors should be possble From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 18 18:49:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19442; Thu, 18 May 95 18:49:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25933; Thu, 18 May 1995 18:43:28 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 18 May 1995 18:43:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA25920; Thu, 18 May 1995 18:43:25 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA01657; Thu, 18 May 95 18:44:12 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 May 95 18:44:12 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505182244.AA01657@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: sting@merle.acns.nwu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: for 755CX, should I ord. IC DRAM or DIMM RAM 16mb? "those pesky cards limit me a lot [on the 355]" are these the same cards as the 755, because if so, you can easily get 32 meg cards (I have had one for over a year). Still looking for 32 meg DIMMS, no response yet :-( From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 18 20:26:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03736; Thu, 18 May 95 20:26:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01257; Thu, 18 May 1995 20:18:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 18 May 1995 20:18:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blob.best.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA01247; Thu, 18 May 1995 20:18:23 -0400 From: Received: from shell1.best.com (shell1.best.com [204.156.128.10]) by blob.best.net (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA13552 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 17:17:21 -0700 Received: from 204.156.137.12 (sandy.vip.best.com [204.156.137.12]) by shell1.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA08627 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 17:17:40 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 17:17:40 -0700 Message-Id: <199505190017.RAA08627@shell1.best.com> Subject: Re: 755CX first impressions (1.2 gig, 28.8modem?) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) >my information here just comes from the fact that I am offered only >three choices of resolutions after installing the CD drivers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >640 x 480 x 256 >800 x 600 x 256 640 x 480 x 65536 > >this may just be a driver problem, after all >800 x 600 x 65536 requires 800 x 600 x 2 = 960000 < 1 megabyte of video RAM >so it seems like the higher resolution at 65536 colors should be possble Forgive, but it seems we're talking about different ThinkPads here. What CD drivers? Do you have a 755CD (486DX100) or 755CX (Pentium 75)?? The new 755CX (75Mhz Pentium with 800x600 @65k color display) doesn't have or need CD drivers (unless you're talking about an external CD drive). I called IBM today and their Engineering Support people confirmed that the 755CX Black active-matrix TFT display DOES indeed have a screen resolution of 800x600 at a color depth of 65,536 colors. The 755CD might support 65K color depths at 640x480, but that's a different machine with a different display. The topic reads "RE: 755cx". Which model are you talking about? Either your information is inaccurate or the 755cx video drivers and display do not support 800x600 @65K colors and IBM is guilty of false advertising. I should be able to add more to this discussion after I receive my new 755cx tomorrow. _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +-----.oOOo--()--oOOo.-------+ | InterNet : sandy@sandy.com | +-------------- Oooo.--------+ .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 18 21:34:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13264; Thu, 18 May 95 21:34:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05352; Thu, 18 May 1995 21:24:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 18 May 1995 21:24:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from merle.acns.nwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05342; Thu, 18 May 1995 21:24:52 -0400 Received: from conrad.res-hall.nwu.edu by merle.acns.nwu.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.16/20.3) id AA278156688; Thu, 18 May 1995 20:24:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199505190124.AA278156688@merle.acns.nwu.edu> X-Sender: sting@merle.acns.nwu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 20:23:56 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: conrada-b%nwu.edu@nwu.edu (Conrad H Albrecht-Buehler) Subject: Re: 755cx - Mailorder YES, IBM-Direct NO (Long) Concerning CDW. I'd like to give the other side of the coin. I live near to CDW and have visited them a number of times in the past few years. two years ago, I saw they had a BJ-200 for $179. I called to confirm the price and the rep told me absolutely. They had gotten a great price from Canon and were passing teh savings on to their customers. Anyway, I was so excited I drove right over, grabbed a sales rep, and told him I wanted to buy one. He was nice and said "sure." He rang it up, and asked for my Visa. "the total is $389.47". I told him there must be a mistake. I only wanted ONE. He said that was the price on teh BJ200. I was so frazzled, I didn't know what to say. I told him teh phone rep had quoted me a MUCH lower price. I couldn't remember exactly how much it was, but I was sure it was under $200. He looked shocked, and said that was impossible. IT HAD NEVER BEEN SOLD FOR A PRICE EVEN NEAR THAT. "but because I see you may have gotten conflicting info, I'll see what I can do" He sold me teh printer for $210+tax. On the way out, still somewhat confused I spied a brochure, and RIGHT ON THE COVER was teh BJ200 for $179! I went back to the rep, and he said,"uh, I don't know. We don't have anymore of those. uh, what's the matter? Look, I figure you'd be greatful for my giving you such a low price." First of all it was obvious he'd lied to me completely about the price, and that it had never been sold for that price. As a naive teenager, I shyly left, still terribly confused. A week later, my friend went there, with the ad in hand, and bought another BJ200 from the same rep, and got it for $179! I went and complained to the store, and was totally ignored. CDW has not been a cheery experience for me. When the woman posted about the 755s, my admittedly uninformed first guess, was that they may have gotten them shadily. I have no way of supporting such an impression, so I won't stand by it. Also everytime I call, the phone rep gives me a guilt-trip for not immediatly buying whatever product's price I ask for. I have been very dissatisfied with CDW. I just wanted to give the other side. see ya. --Conrad -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- conrada-b@nwu.edu "You know, my father only gave me one piece of advice. He said, 'Son, don't ever get married; go to sea.'" --Sting From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 18 23:02:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23399; Thu, 18 May 95 23:02:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10863; Thu, 18 May 1995 22:53:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 18 May 1995 22:53:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA10852; Thu, 18 May 1995 22:53:21 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA05808; Thu, 18 May 95 22:54:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 May 95 22:54:10 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505190254.AA05808@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, sandy@sandy.com Subject: Re: 755CX first impressions (1.2 gig, 28.8modem?) sorry, the CD was a misprint. I *definitely* have a CD and the message I sent should have said after installing VIDEO drivers. My guess is that the CD display supports 800 x 600 x 16536 but the video drivers do not yet. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 18 23:54:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00273; Thu, 18 May 95 23:54:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13755; Thu, 18 May 1995 23:46:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 18 May 1995 23:46:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blob.best.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA13743; Thu, 18 May 1995 23:46:27 -0400 From: Received: from shell1.best.com (shell1.best.com [204.156.128.10]) by blob.best.net (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA16464 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 20:43:14 -0700 Received: from 204.156.137.12 (sandy.vip.best.com [204.156.137.12]) by shell1.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA20103 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 20:43:38 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 20:43:38 -0700 Message-Id: <199505190343.UAA20103@shell1.best.com> Subject: Re: 755cx - Mailorder YES, IBM-Direct NO (Long) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) >Concerning CDW. > I'd like to give the other side of the coin. I live near to CDW and have >visited them a number of times in the past few years. two years ago, I saw >they had a BJ-200 for $179. I called to confirm the price and the rep told ----stuff cut here---- >buying whatever product's price I ask for. I have been very dissatisfied >with CDW. I just wanted to give the other side. >see ya. --Conrad Thanks Conrad, I appreciate your feedback. Unfortunately, you had a bad experience. If that happen to me, I'd feel the same way. Most companies seem to forget that the employees we (as customers) interface with ARE the company from our perspective. A company is only as good as the person representing it. In your case, the CDW rep was a numbnut, so your impression of CDW is negative. Upper management at CDW probably had no idea that this guy was pissing customers off. I would have asked to speak to a manager and his manager if necessary until someone provided the service I expected. This kind of feedback is useful to companies and usually helps to improve their service. Unfortunately for most companies, human nature is to say screw-em, walk out and never do business with them again. Based on my personal experience with CDW and on similar experiences from friends who have also purchased from CDW, I know they are a really good company and I feel very comfortable dealing with them. Next time call Derek at the number I posted earlier and I think you will change your feelings. All I want from this relationship is the best possible price, friendly (knowledgeable) service, and quick delivery. CDW (Derek) has fulfilled my needs. Sorry for the CDW digression, but selecting the "right" reseller is almost as important as selecting the right ThinkPad. _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +-----.oOOo--()--oOOo.-------+ | InterNet : sandy@sandy.com | +-------------- Oooo.--------+ .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 00:28:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08224; Fri, 19 May 95 00:28:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16110; Fri, 19 May 1995 00:19:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 00:19:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA16100; Fri, 19 May 1995 00:19:54 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA08140; Fri, 19 May 95 00:20:38 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 May 95 00:20:38 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505190420.AA08140@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 755CX >sorry, the CD was a misprint. I *definitely* have a CD and the message I >sent should have said after installing VIDEO drivers. > >My guess is that the CD display supports 800 x 600 x 16536 but the >video drivers do not yet. > I can't BELIEVE I did it again, I meant to type "I *definitely* have a CX". Must be gremlins in the long lines tonight! So my observations about resolutions are for the CX, which I am tyuping on right now (at 600 x 800 x 256 - VERY pretty!) I use the 14 x 8 font and get 35 lines by 80 characters with lots of screen to spare and very readable. For my DOS windows, I use the 10 x 6 font, and get several 25 x 80 DOS or OS/2 windows on the screen at the same time. But in the list of resolutions, I do not get 800 x 600 x 65536 :-( From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 00:53:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10567; Fri, 19 May 95 00:53:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17428; Fri, 19 May 1995 00:45:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 00:45:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kitten.mcs.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA17412; Fri, 19 May 1995 00:45:40 -0400 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA02953 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 23:45:38 -0500 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Thu, 18 May 95 23:42 CDT Received: by falkor.chi.il.us (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Thu, 18 May 95 23:38:10 CDT for tp750@cs.utk.edu To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755cx - Mailorder YES, IBM-Direct NO (Long) From: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us (Ron Heiby) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 18 May 95 23:34:22 CDT In-Reply-To: <199505190124.AA278156688@merle.acns.nwu.edu> Organization: DML, Inc., Buffalo Grove, IL Sounds to me like you need some assertiveness training. You should have asked to speak to a supervisor. CDW has a 30 day money back guarantee, so they should have honored their brochure with no problem. I have had very good experiences with them. (I also live near their store.) When I bought my 16Meg memory card for my ThinkPad, I negotiated a better price than they originally offered, by mentioning that I had heard that its price was X (about $100 less than they started at). On another occasion, I had to return a tape backup unit, as it had no available OS/2 software. No problem, unless you count it taking 2 weeks longer to process the credit on my VISA than the charge took. On yet another occasion, the floor manager let me run an experiment on their TP750Cs. Just good experiences here! Ron. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 04:51:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11089; Fri, 19 May 95 04:51:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA00182; Fri, 19 May 1995 04:35:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 04:35:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blob.best.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA00161; Fri, 19 May 1995 04:35:33 -0400 From: Received: from shell1.best.com (shell1.best.com [204.156.128.10]) by blob.best.net (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id BAA19847 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 01:33:26 -0700 Received: from 204.156.137.12 (sandy.vip.best.com [204.156.137.12]) by shell1.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA06962 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 01:33:49 -0701 Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 01:33:49 -0701 Message-Id: <199505190834.BAA06962@shell1.best.com> Subject: Re: 755cx - Mailorder YES, IBM-Direct NO (Long) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) >Sounds to me like you need some assertiveness training. You should have >asked to speak to a supervisor. CDW has a 30 day money back guarantee, so >they should have honored their brochure with no problem. I have had very >good experiences with them. (I also live near their store.) When I bought >my 16Meg memory card for my ThinkPad, I negotiated a better price than >they originally offered, by mentioning that I had heard that its price >was X (about $100 less than they started at). On another occasion, I had Thanks Ron, good feedback and I totally agree. Customers should be assertive and standup for what's right. I'm sure CDW would have honored the lower price or given Robert a refund if he spoke to a supervisor or manager. That's one of the neat things about being a customer of a large company with multiple levels of management. If you believe "they've done you wrong" and the manager you're talking to isn't any help, you can go above his head and follow the chain of command until you find someone who will help you. Most good managers don't want a customer going their boss and, even in difficult situations, will generally find a way to satisfy the customer. If Robert is correct about the new 755cx not supporting 65K color depths at a resolution of 800x600, IBM is going to have an opportunity to see some of my assertiveness. False advertising is a very serious issue. _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +-----.oOOo--()--oOOo.-------+ | InterNet : sandy@sandy.com | +-------------- Oooo.--------+ .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 08:53:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14452; Fri, 19 May 95 08:53:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17237; Fri, 19 May 1995 08:33:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 08:33:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA17218; Fri, 19 May 1995 08:33:12 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144281>; Fri, 19 May 1995 08:33:08 -0400 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: My shift key Message-Id: <95May19.083308edt.144281@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 08:33:00 -0400 Hmmm. I thought it would be my trackpoint that would die from all the Doom I'm not playing, but instead it looks like the right shift key on my CE is acting up. Minor problem: it has lifted about .5 cm to the point where I can see the underlying metal brace when looking from the side. No such lift on the left shift. It still shifts fine but it looks like it's worth fixing. Is there something obvious I should try before I bring it in? Eugene Fiume From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 10:27:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21138; Fri, 19 May 95 10:27:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25738; Fri, 19 May 1995 10:10:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 10:10:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25717; Fri, 19 May 1995 10:10:41 -0400 Received: by FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA22813; Fri, 19 May 95 10:11:27 EDT Date: Fri, 19 May 95 10:11:27 EDT From: fox@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU (David Fox) Message-Id: <9505191411.AA22813@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755cx - Mailorder YES, IBM-Direct NO (Long) In-Reply-To: <199505190834.BAA06962@shell1.best.com> References: <199505190834.BAA06962@shell1.best.com> > >Sounds to me like you need some assertiveness training. You should have > >asked to speak to a supervisor... > > Thanks Ron, good feedback and I totally agree. Customers should be > assertive and stand up for what's right... Sometimes you don't have time to do the research to find out what's right, or the energy to be assertive enough to get it. I prefer companies that can be trusted to give you a decent (if not the absolute lowest) price every time. You may say that if I'm not willing to do the research I deserve to be ripped off, but modern society would not be possible without delegation of authority. Certain mail order companies seem to have a "no bull***t" culture which makes this work, or so it seems to me. Examples from Computer Shopper include Insight, CMO (aka Storage USA), OS Computers, First Source Intl. Authoritarian religions and alternative lifestyles seem to help, look for companies in central Pennsylvania, Utah, San Francisco, etc... :) -david From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 11:31:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24992; Fri, 19 May 95 11:31:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02251; Fri, 19 May 1995 11:18:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 11:18:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA02235; Fri, 19 May 1995 11:18:38 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id LAA13126; Fri, 19 May 1995 11:21:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 11:21:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: David Fox Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755cx - Mailorder YES, IBM-Direct NO (Long) In-Reply-To: <9505191411.AA22813@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 19 May 1995, David Fox wrote: > > >Sounds to me like you need some assertiveness training. You should have > > >asked to speak to a supervisor... > > > > Thanks Ron, good feedback and I totally agree. Customers should be > > assertive and stand up for what's right... > > Sometimes you don't have time to do the research to find out what's > right, or the energy to be assertive enough to get it. I prefer > companies that can be trusted to give you a decent (if not the > absolute lowest) price every time. You may say that if I'm not > willing to do the research I deserve to be ripped off, but modern > society would not be possible without delegation of authority. > > Certain mail order companies seem to have a "no bull***t" culture > which makes this work, or so it seems to me. Examples from Computer > Shopper include Insight, CMO (aka Storage USA), OS Computers, First > Source Intl. Authoritarian religions and alternative lifestyles seem > to help, look for companies in central Pennsylvania, Utah, San > Francisco, etc... :) I don't think that's behavior that is "deserving to be ripped off" at all. I'd rather pay 2% more across the board than constantly wonder if item 5 of 200 has been artifically inflated in price. Add to your list of "reliable companies" DC Drives in Texas - they have always been above board with me. Also Micro(/Mac/Systems/Network)Warehouse, who lacks the best prices but always tells you if it's really instock, shipps overnight for reasonable prices, never charges till it's out the door, etc, etc. If CDW had pulled that stunt on me (and made the fatal mistake of doing it in the STORE!) I'd have been screaming at the top of my lungs. I'm not a screamer, but behavior like that (jacking the price up 50% just to see if it could be done, then _still_ selling for $40 more when called on it) should be advertised to everyone in earshot. You want to charge a premium for service, fine - I used to work in a reseller like that. We were more than the local competitors, but our policies were more flexible and out support more extensive. You want to be bargain basement and provide a minumum of service, fine. But to make up the prices as you go along and always follow the screw-em-if-you-can method is unacceptable. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 11:59:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28276; Fri, 19 May 95 11:59:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06375; Fri, 19 May 1995 11:52:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 11:52:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from watson.ibm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA06365; Fri, 19 May 1995 11:52:11 -0400 Received: from WATSON by watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 0203; Fri, 19 May 95 11:51:38 EDT Received: from YKTVMV by watson.vnet.ibm.com with "VAGENT.V1.0" id 3863; Fri, 19 May 1995 11:51:38 EDT Received: from jimi.watson.ibm.com by yktvmv.watson.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Fri, 19 May 95 11:51:37 EDT Received: by jimi.watson.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/930311) id AA32446; Fri, 19 May 1995 11:51:36 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 11:51:36 -0400 From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) Message-Id: <9505191551.AA32446@jimi.watson.ibm.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: PCMCIA CD-ROM Hi, I was wondering what the consensus was on the best CD-ROM drive that will plug into my PCMCIA slot. I notice that Panasonic has a 2X drive with PCMCIA card for $290. Has anybody successfully hooked this one up to a 750C? --andy From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 12:28:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29895; Fri, 19 May 95 12:28:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08505; Fri, 19 May 1995 12:16:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 12:16:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.cs.utexas.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08494; Fri, 19 May 1995 12:16:55 -0400 Received: from darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (mschaef@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.143.204]) by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA06382; Fri, 19 May 1995 11:16:53 -0500 Received: by darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/Client-v1.4) id LAA76378; Fri, 19 May 1995 11:16:52 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 11:16:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Schaeffer To: David Fox Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755cx - Mailorder YES, IBM-Direct NO (Long) In-Reply-To: <9505191411.AA22813@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 19 May 1995, David Fox wrote: > > >Sounds to me like you need some assertiveness training. You should have > > >asked to speak to a supervisor... > > > > Thanks Ron, good feedback and I totally agree. Customers should be > > assertive and stand up for what's right... > > Sometimes you don't have time to do the research to find out what's > right, or the energy to be assertive enough to get it. I prefer > companies that can be trusted to give you a decent (if not the > absolute lowest) price every time. When I bought a pair of T3400's from CDW (one for me and one for my dad), the price the were asking was around $1500, I thought that was a pretty good price... until the next morning. I checked the comp.sys.laptops news groups, and somebody reported buying new, complete T3400's for $1000, from PC's Complet. I called to verify, and they had 50 3400's that they were selling at that price. So, I decided to call CDW and see what they would do, after all, they do have a policy of matching prices, and it wasn't 12 hours after I had bought the machines. They wouldn't budge more than about $50 at first, but after a little persistance, and speaking to a couple of other people I got the to throw in a 8MB RAM card into the deal at no extra charge. Not exactly what I wanted from CDW, but not too bad anyway. We lost money on the deal, but CDW probably did more than it needed to to insure a happy customer. -Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 12:34:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00261; Fri, 19 May 95 12:34:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08989; Fri, 19 May 1995 12:22:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 12:22:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA08975; Fri, 19 May 1995 12:22:08 -0400 Received: from alcor.usc.edu (whittle@alcor.usc.edu [128.125.253.169]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id JAA14766; Fri, 19 May 1995 09:22:01 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by alcor.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id JAA00975; Fri, 19 May 1995 09:21:59 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199505191621.JAA00975@alcor.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 755cx - Mailorder YES, IBM-Direct NO (Long) To: fox@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU (David Fox) Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 09:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9505191411.AA22813@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU> from "David Fox" at May 19, 95 10:11:27 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Certain mail order companies seem to have a "no bull***t" culture > which makes this work, or so it seems to me. Examples from Computer > Shopper include Insight, CMO (aka Storage USA), OS Computers, First > Source Intl. Authoritarian religions and alternative lifestyles seem > to help, look for companies in central Pennsylvania, Utah, San > Francisco, etc... :) You got something against the Amish & the Mormons? :) But what's in San Francisco? The land of the fruits & nuts? ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 12:35:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00266; Fri, 19 May 95 12:35:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09189; Fri, 19 May 1995 12:25:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 12:25:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA09128; Fri, 19 May 1995 12:25:00 -0400 Received: from alcor.usc.edu (whittle@alcor.usc.edu [128.125.253.169]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id JAA14920; Fri, 19 May 1995 09:24:58 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by alcor.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id JAA01045; Fri, 19 May 1995 09:24:56 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199505191624.JAA01045@alcor.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 755cx - Mailorder YES, IBM-Direct NO (Long) To: dwhite@shadow.net (Don Whiteside) Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 09:24:56 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Don Whiteside" at May 19, 95 11:21:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I don't think that's behavior that is "deserving to be ripped off" at > all. I'd rather pay 2% more across the board than constantly wonder if > item 5 of 200 has been artifically inflated in price. Add to your list of > "reliable companies" DC Drives in Texas - they have always been above > board with me. If dissent is permitted, I'll register the point that I've read more than one complaint posted by former customers of DC Drives. I've never purchased from them personally, so I can't say. However, the stuff I had read is sufficiently bad that I probably never will. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 12:57:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03516; Fri, 19 May 95 12:57:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11254; Fri, 19 May 1995 12:52:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 12:52:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from orpheus.amdahl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11236; Fri, 19 May 1995 12:52:04 -0400 Received: from cessna.oes.amdahl.com by orpheus.amdahl.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sCVH7-0000l4C; Fri, 19 May 95 09:51 PDT Received: by cessna.oes.amdahl.com (5.0/SMI-4.1/DNS) id AA02645; Fri, 19 May 1995 09:52:07 +0800 Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 09:52:07 +0800 From: lenj@oes.amdahl.com (Len Jacobson) Message-Id: <9505191652.AA02645@cessna.oes.amdahl.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, stevens@watson.ibm.com Subject: Re: PCMCIA CD-ROM X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII At a street price of about $400, Sony has the Sony Discman 150 which is highly portable, running on AA batteries (and, of course, AC). Runs for about 1 1/2 hours on batteries. Next month, they are coming out with the '155' which has a Sound Blaster 16 card built in. It comes with a headset. Both the '150' and the '155' are PCMCIA. The list price of the '155' is $750. I talked with Sony and they have specifically used the TP750C in their testing, so they say it works fine with it. Len Jacobson > From @amdahl.uts.amdahl.com:owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 09:33 PDT 1995 > X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 11:52:13 EDT > Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 11:51:36 -0400 > From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) > To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > Subject: PCMCIA CD-ROM > > > Hi, I was wondering what the consensus was on the best CD-ROM drive > that will plug into my PCMCIA slot. I notice that Panasonic has a > 2X drive with PCMCIA card for $290. Has anybody successfully hooked > this one up to a 750C? > > --andy > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 12:58:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03725; Fri, 19 May 95 12:58:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11140; Fri, 19 May 1995 12:51:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 12:51:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rigel.lmt.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA11128; Fri, 19 May 1995 12:51:12 -0400 Received: from leonardo.lmt.com by rigel.lmt.com with SMTP id AA11383 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 19 May 1995 11:57:05 -0500 Received: from LEONARDO/SMTPQUEUE by leonardo.lmt.com (Mercury 1.13); Fri, 19 May 95 11:57:05 GMT-6 Received: from SMTPQUEUE by LEONARDO (Mercury 1.13); Fri, 19 May 95 11:56:25 GMT-6 From: "Chris Schumann" Organization: LaserMaster Technologies R&D Divn. To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 11:56:23 CST6CDT Subject: DC (Dirt Cheap) Drives Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <2D42CD7DB3@leonardo.lmt.com> My former company ordered many times from DC Drives, and always had very good prices, delivery and customer support. I personally filled a few purchase orders with them and would not hesitate to buy from them personally. I'm not associated with them. I'm just a happy customer. ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: Randal Whittle If dissent is permitted, I'll register the point that I've read more than one complaint posted by former customers of DC Drives. I've never purchased from them personally, so I can't say. However, the stuff I had read is sufficiently bad that I probably never will. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 13:23:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05968; Fri, 19 May 95 13:23:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12997; Fri, 19 May 1995 13:16:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 13:16:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12985; Fri, 19 May 1995 13:16:28 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id NAA22193; Fri, 19 May 1995 13:20:29 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 13:20:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Randal Whittle Cc: TP Subject: Re: 755cx - Mailorder YES, IBM-Direct NO (Long) In-Reply-To: <199505191624.JAA01045@alcor.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 19 May 1995, Randal Whittle wrote: > If dissent is permitted, I'll register the point that I've > read more than one complaint posted by former customers of DC Drives. > > I've never purchased from them personally, so I can't say. > However, the stuff I had read is sufficiently bad that I probably > never will. Interesting. I've personally bought from them about 3 or 4 times, and dealt secondhand with them several other times. One was a return of a broken drive, which they did with no problem (though they would not crossship, but not entirely unusual in the cheapo drive market). Perhaps I've been lucky, perhaps they've changed their spots in the 6-8 months since I last dealt with them. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 13:24:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05974; Fri, 19 May 95 13:24:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13233; Fri, 19 May 1995 13:18:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 13:18:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA13223; Fri, 19 May 1995 13:18:36 -0400 Received: from p66.slip.net (sfsp79.slip.net [204.160.88.175]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA02473 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 10:18:17 -0700 Message-Id: <199505191718.KAA02473@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 10:18:23 -0700 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: 755cx - Mailorder YES, IBM-Direct NO (Long) At 09:21 AM 5/19/95 -0700, Randal Whittle wrote: > You got something against the Amish & the Mormons? :) > > But what's in San Francisco? The land of the fruits & nuts? You forgot me, one of the flakes.. ____________________________________________________________________ http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 13:29:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06942; Fri, 19 May 95 13:29:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12574; Fri, 19 May 1995 13:12:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 13:11:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA12558; Fri, 19 May 1995 13:11:56 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id NAA21823; Fri, 19 May 1995 13:16:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 13:16:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Andrew Stevens Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: PCMCIA CD-ROM In-Reply-To: <9505191551.AA32446@jimi.watson.ibm.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 19 May 1995, Andrew Stevens wrote: > > Hi, I was wondering what the consensus was on the best CD-ROM drive > that will plug into my PCMCIA slot. I notice that Panasonic has a > 2X drive with PCMCIA card for $290. Has anybody successfully hooked > this one up to a 750C? If you have web access, you can read my personal review of mine on http://shadow.net/~dwhite/thinkpad.html If you don't, mail me and I'll send you a copy of it. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 14:17:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09628; Fri, 19 May 95 14:17:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16159; Fri, 19 May 1995 14:02:45 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 14:02:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA16140; Fri, 19 May 1995 14:02:41 -0400 Received: from snail.Sun.COM ([129.145.1.3]) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA21520; Fri, 19 May 95 11:02:08 PDT Received: from France (isunfra) by snail.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22003; Fri, 19 May 95 11:02:04 PDT Received: from bebop.France.Sun.COM (bebop-bb) by France (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04840; Fri, 19 May 95 20:02:00 +0200 Received: from otis.France.Sun.COM by bebop.France.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01828; Fri, 19 May 1995 19:58:00 +0200 Received: by otis.France.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA03117; Fri, 19 May 1995 19:56:50 +0200 Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 19:56:50 +0200 From: Martin.Patterson@France.Sun.COM (Martin Patterson - Sun Microsystems) Message-Id: <9505191756.AA03117@otis.France.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: PCMCIA CD-ROM X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII I have a Sony Discman PRD-150 on my 755C and it runs fine under both DOS and Windows. I like it a lot except for battery life - I get about 20 minutes in data mode. It adjusts the transfer speed depending on its power situation (plug it in to the adapter and it switches to High Speed mode). Windows 95 (MSDN pre-release) doesn't like it though and Sony say that they won't have a new driver until Windows 95 is shipping. Martin > >At a street price of about $400, Sony has the Sony Discman 150 which is highly >portable, running on AA batteries (and, of course, AC). Runs for about 1 1/2 >hours on batteries. Next month, they are coming out with the '155' which has >a Sound Blaster 16 card built in. It comes with a headset. Both the '150' >and the '155' are PCMCIA. The list price of the '155' is $750. I talked with >Sony and they have specifically used the TP750C in their testing, so they say >it works fine with it. > >Len Jacobson > > >> From @amdahl.uts.amdahl.com:owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 09:33 PDT 1995 >> X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 11:52:13 EDT >> Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 11:51:36 -0400 >> From: stevens@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Stevens) >> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU >> Subject: PCMCIA CD-ROM >> >> >> Hi, I was wondering what the consensus was on the best CD-ROM drive >> that will plug into my PCMCIA slot. I notice that Panasonic has a >> 2X drive with PCMCIA card for $290. Has anybody successfully hooked >> this one up to a 750C? >> >> --andy >> > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 15:22:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13046; Fri, 19 May 95 15:22:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20965; Fri, 19 May 1995 15:07:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 15:07:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA20953; Fri, 19 May 1995 15:07:43 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id OAA15474 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 14:07:35 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 14:07:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199505191907.OAA15474@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu (Todd Tannenbaum) Subject: Re: PCMCIA CD-ROM > >Hi, I was wondering what the consensus was on the best CD-ROM drive >that will plug into my PCMCIA slot. I notice that Panasonic has a >2X drive with PCMCIA card for $290. Has anybody successfully hooked >this one up to a 750C? > >--andy > Yes, I have successfully hooked up a Panasonic 2X to my Thinkpad 755CE (i cannot imagine that things would be any different with a 750C). After about 10 minutes of messing around with some TSRs, etc, I got the drive's PCMCIA card working fine with the thinkpads EZPLAY (PC Card Director) software. The CD-ROM pcmcia card also works fine in the slots on my thinkpad port replicator. All in all, the Panasonic PCMCIA cd-rom co-exists just fine with the thinkpad. I think I remember someone else on this list reporting essentially the same experience. -Todd =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Todd Tannenbaum email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu Director of the Model Advanced Facility voice phone: (608) 262-3118 Computer-Aided Engineering Center FAX phone: (608) 265-4546 University of Wisconsin-Madison From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 15:27:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13955; Fri, 19 May 95 15:27:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22106; Fri, 19 May 1995 15:19:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 15:19:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA22096; Fri, 19 May 1995 15:19:15 -0400 Received: by FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA23180; Fri, 19 May 95 15:20:05 EDT Date: Fri, 19 May 95 15:20:05 EDT From: fox@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU (David Fox) Message-Id: <9505191920.AA23180@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) Subject: Re: 755cx - Mailorder YES, IBM-Direct NO (Long) In-Reply-To: <199505191621.JAA00975@alcor.usc.edu> References: <9505191411.AA22813@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU> <199505191621.JAA00975@alcor.usc.edu> > > Source Intl. Authoritarian religions and alternative lifestyles seem > > to help, look for companies in central Pennsylvania, Utah, San > > Francisco, etc... :) > > You got something against the Amish & the Mormons? :) > But what's in San Francisco? The land of the fruits & nuts? I don't have anything against anyone, just the reverse actually. Sorry to go on about this, but it can be a sensitive subject. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 16:15:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20340; Fri, 19 May 95 16:15:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18339; Fri, 19 May 1995 14:31:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 14:31:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from MIT.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA18308; Fri, 19 May 1995 14:31:38 -0400 From: Received: from PUTTANESCA.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA22027; Fri, 19 May 95 14:31:35 EDT Received: by puttanesca.MIT.EDU (5.57/4.7) id AA21047; Fri, 19 May 95 14:31:25 -0400 Message-Id: <9505191831.AA21047@puttanesca.MIT.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Non IBM CDROM in Dock I Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 14:31:23 EDT Just got a Dock I and want to put a cdrom drive in it but the IBM drive is way over priced. Is anybody using a non-IBM drive in the Dock I ?? Any problems to be aware of ?? Thanks for the info, Bill Daughton -------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 16:29:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22922; Fri, 19 May 95 16:29:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26954; Fri, 19 May 1995 16:16:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 16:16:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from merle.acns.nwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA26944; Fri, 19 May 1995 16:16:20 -0400 Received: by merle.acns.nwu.edu (1.37.109.16/20.3) id AA146554566; Fri, 19 May 1995 15:16:06 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 15:16:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Conrad Albrecht-Buehler Subject: Slots To: conrada-b@nwu.edu Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a Tp355Cs, and I wanted to know, if anyone knew if it were possible to a) install a second PCMCIA slot into the open space(where the 360s etc have their second), and b) if thereis a way of installing two DRAM cards(with teh floppy removed of course)? Any input would be appreciated. thanks all. BTW, I've been on teh list 2 days, and I think it's the most productive and useful list I've been on yet! see ya. --Conrad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- conrada-b@nwu.edu "You know, my father only gave me one piece of advice. He said, 'Son, don't ever get married; go to sea.'" --Sting From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 18:35:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12190; Fri, 19 May 95 18:35:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06475; Fri, 19 May 1995 18:24:08 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 18:24:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp.utexas.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA06465; Fri, 19 May 1995 18:24:03 -0400 Received: from mail.utexas.edu (mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.1]) by smtp.utexas.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA22825 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 17:20:51 -0500 Received: from slip-21-11.ots.utexas.edu (slip-21-11.ots.utexas.edu [128.83.111.171]) by mail.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA15130 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 17:18:29 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 17:18:29 -0500 Message-Id: <199505192218.RAA15130@mail.utexas.edu> X-Sender: cgentry@mail.utexas.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: cgentry@mail.utexas.edu (Chip Gentry) Subject: Warp, TP750, and 256 color drivers X-Mailer: Greetings, Does anyone know if IBM has an updated OS/2 Warp 256 color Western Digital display driver for mono TP750? The original driver works fine for OS/2 programs as well as within full screen Windows, but, Windows programs on the OS/2 desktop seem to have problems with the mouse pointer leaving trash on the screen. Thanks, M. L. "Chip" Gentry ---------------------------------------- Teaching Assistant | "To believe that the world is | Dept. of Ed. Psych. | only as you think it is, is foolish. | EDB 538A/D5800 | The world is a mysterious place." | Univ. of Texas at Austin | ---Juan Matus, Yaqui sorcer, 1961. | cgentry@mail.utexas.edu ---------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 19:22:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18827; Fri, 19 May 95 19:22:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08824; Fri, 19 May 1995 19:16:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 19:16:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA08810; Fri, 19 May 1995 19:16:40 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA12474; Fri, 19 May 95 19:17:26 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 May 95 19:17:26 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505192317.AA12474@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: lenj@oes.amdahl.com, stevens@watson.ibm.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: PCMCIA CD-ROM anyone know if the Sony will work with OS/2 WARP From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 19:27:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19460; Fri, 19 May 95 19:27:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09048; Fri, 19 May 1995 19:22:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 19:22:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA09037; Fri, 19 May 1995 19:22:17 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA12589; Fri, 19 May 95 19:23:06 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 May 95 19:23:06 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505192323.AA12589@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, tannenba@engr.wisc.edu Subject: Re: PCMCIA CD-ROM have you run under OS/2 with this CD ROM From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 19 19:55:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23647; Fri, 19 May 95 19:55:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10175; Fri, 19 May 1995 19:49:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 19 May 1995 19:49:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA10164; Fri, 19 May 1995 19:49:20 -0400 Received: from alcor.usc.edu (whittle@alcor.usc.edu [128.125.253.169]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id QAA16457; Fri, 19 May 1995 16:49:18 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by alcor.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id QAA13709; Fri, 19 May 1995 16:49:11 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199505192349.QAA13709@alcor.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 755cx - Mailorder YES, IBM-Direct NO (Long) To: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 16:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <199505191718.KAA02473@mom.hooked.net> from "jesse montrose" at May 19, 95 10:18:23 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > But what's in San Francisco? The land of the fruits & nuts? > > You forgot me, one of the flakes.. > ____________________________________________________________________ > http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home Let's just say its granola country. :) ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 20 00:14:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00529; Sat, 20 May 95 00:14:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25842; Sat, 20 May 1995 00:07:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 20 May 1995 00:07:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blob.best.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25824; Sat, 20 May 1995 00:07:11 -0400 From: Received: from shell1.best.com (shell1.best.com [204.156.128.10]) by blob.best.net (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA02921 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 21:00:33 -0700 Received: from 204.156.137.12 (sandy.vip.best.com [204.156.137.12]) by shell1.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA02481 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 21:00:53 -0701 Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 21:00:53 -0701 Message-Id: <199505200401.VAA02481@shell1.best.com> Subject: 755CX - Color Depth / Bad "Pixels" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) Hello All, I received my 755cx today with new SVGA display and have confirmed that it does allow a color depth of 65K colors at an 800x600 resolution. I was able to install the driver without any problems under Windows. IBM's interactive ThinkPad demo program looks great at this resolution and color depth. Very impressive. Also, I know that bad pixels (TFTs) are, as IBM says on page 205 of the 755cx manual, "an intrinsic characteristic of TFT LCD technology and is not an LCD defect". I was wondering how many bad "TFTs" you can see on your ThinkPad display? My display has a single bad TFT (dot) just right of center, but the bright red color makes it standout. I find it a little distracting, but probably will get use to it. I've read several discussions of bad TFTs in LCD displays on several newsgroups. Some of the engineers who design these displays have confirmed that almost all LCD displays have some bad TFTs, it's just a question of what percentage of bad ones are acceptable to the computer manufacturer who buys them. When I've had more time to "evaluate" the 755cx, I'll post my overall impressions. So far, I'm very impressed. _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +-----.oOOo--()--oOOo.-------+ | InterNet : sandy@sandy.com | +-------------- Oooo.--------+ .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) <---- End Included Message ----> _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +-----.oOOo--()--oOOo.-------+ | InterNet : sandy@sandy.com | +-------------- Oooo.--------+ .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 20 02:44:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23061; Sat, 20 May 95 02:44:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03135; Sat, 20 May 1995 02:35:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 20 May 1995 02:35:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ix4.ix.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA03125; Sat, 20 May 1995 02:35:48 -0400 Received: from by ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id XAA05137; Fri, 19 May 1995 23:33:43 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 23:33:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199505200633.XAA05137@ix4.ix.netcom.com> From: johnhc@ix.netcom.com (John Chan ) Subject: Re: 755CX - Color Depth / Bad "Pixels" To: Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU You wrote: >My display has a single bad TFT (dot) just right of center, >but the bright red color makes it standout. I find it a >little distracting, but probably will get use to it. Sandy- I had the very same problem when I first got my 755CE. I understood that dead pixels were a fact of life, but the fact that the pixel was orange and close to the middle of my screen was too much for me! Luckily IBM Pc Direct was great about the exchange and even paid for the shipping (although Airborne Express keeps sending me bills, but that's another story ). So I guess it all boils down to how high your tolerance level is. Some people seem to get used to the dead pixel(s), while others (like me) find that the little buggers start to grate on them over time. BTW, I can't remember what is the exact number of dead pixels before IBM considers a screen defective(something like 7 or 8), but I've heard it's the lowest in the industry. - John P.S. I just joined this group also and "I LOVE THIS GAME!" =) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 20 10:43:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26304; Sat, 20 May 95 10:43:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06047; Sat, 20 May 1995 10:36:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 20 May 1995 10:36:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA06037; Sat, 20 May 1995 10:36:44 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144281>; Sat, 20 May 1995 10:36:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: 's message as of May 20, 12:18am X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: , TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 755CX - Color Depth / Bad "Pixels" Message-Id: <95May20.103631edt.144281@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 10:36:22 -0400 On May 20, 12:18am, wrote: } My display has a single bad TFT (dot) just right of center, } but the bright red color makes it standout. I find it a } little distracting, but probably will get use to it. I have one bright red pixel just right of centre, and one blue pixel in the upper centre. I almost ironically wish I could get a bright green one in the centre-left to complete the triad. In any case, I'm told that two bad pixels on a 640x480 display are within spec. I just wish they were in the corner, but this Murphy guy would never allow anything as nice as that. Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 20 18:43:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00435; Sat, 20 May 95 18:43:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27515; Sat, 20 May 1995 17:43:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 20 May 1995 17:43:43 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blob.best.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27505; Sat, 20 May 1995 17:43:42 -0400 From: Received: from shell1.best.com (shell1.best.com [204.156.128.10]) by blob.best.net (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA01719 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 14:38:52 -0700 Received: from 204.156.137.12 (sandy.vip.best.com [204.156.137.12]) by shell1.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA03523 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 14:39:29 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 14:39:29 -0700 Message-Id: <199505202139.OAA03523@shell1.best.com> Subject: Infrared Data Transfer To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) Hi All, My new TP755CX came with a program called TranXit which allows infrared transfers between the TP755CX and any computer which is properly equipped. The software manufacturer recommends and sells an Adaptec infrared adapter for my other PC ($99.00) to complete the infrared link. It appears transfers at speeds up to 115.2K/sec are possible. I was wondering if anyone has had any experience using infrared as a transfer medium and could comment on the pros and cons of using this link for transferring data between systems. It seems like a very convenient way of linking my TP with my main system. The software looks very similar in capabilities to laplink and allows transfers via serial or parallel cable besides the infrared. Any other manufacturers making IR adapters for this purpose? _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +-----.oOOo--()--oOOo.-------+ | InterNet : sandy@sandy.com | +-------------- Oooo.--------+ .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 20 20:43:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20082; Sat, 20 May 95 20:43:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05399; Sat, 20 May 1995 20:32:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 20 May 1995 20:31:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from armon.rain.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA05387; Sat, 20 May 1995 20:31:51 -0400 Received: by armon.rain.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0sCyvk-000DzUC; Sat, 20 May 95 17:31 PDT Message-Id: From: mehdi@armon.rain.com (Mehdi Attaran) Subject: Re: Infrared Data Transfer To: sandy@sandy.com Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 17:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199505202139.OAA03523@shell1.best.com> from "sandy@sandy.com" at May 20, 95 02:39:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > I was wondering if anyone has had any experience using infrared > as a transfer medium and could comment on the pros and cons of > using this link for transferring data between systems. It seems I have used the IR link between 755CE's and 755CD's quite a few times... It works as advertised. The IR window in front of the TP's is very small, and I didn't have much luck with the machines that were docked (i.e. had to use the front port.) We've been able to transfer huge file (i.e. AVI files as large as 100 megs) without any problems. I like how TranXit works... it is very much line LapLink. I've never tried distances over a couple of feet between the machines. The only other machines with IR capabilities that I'm aware of are the Sharp Wizards, and the HP palmtops. I bought an HP Laserjet 5MP which also had IR built in, but HP recalled them before I had a chance to see how wireless printing works. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mehdi Attaran mehdi@armon.rain.com ..!uunet!m2xenix!armon!mehdi | | Data: (503) 642-3270 Voice: (503) 649-0719 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 22 02:19:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26129; Mon, 22 May 95 02:19:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14381; Mon, 22 May 1995 01:59:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 22 May 1995 01:59:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from garm.adm.ku.dk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA14371; Mon, 22 May 1995 01:59:36 -0400 Received: from odont.ku.dk (server1.odont.ku.dk [130.225.107.2]) by garm.adm.ku.dk (8.6.10/8.6) with ESMTP id HAA15087 for ; Mon, 22 May 1995 07:59:29 +0200 Received: from TS/MERCURY by odont.ku.dk (Mercury 1.21); 22 May 95 07:59:14 +1 Received: from MERCURY by TS (Mercury 1.21); 22 May 95 07:59:12 +1 From: "Anders Nattestad" Organization: Dental School, Univ. of Copenhagen To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 07:59:11 GMT+100 Subject: Introducing me and my tp755c Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-Id: <46533232EFF@odont.ku.dk> Hello all, I have recently bought a 755c with 20 Mb RAM and 340 Mb harddisk. I removed the dos+windows installation and placed the preview release of windows 95 (build 347) on it. I have had no real problems with the installation, but are still lacking 256 color support and sound. I suppose I could use the old drivers, but I have gotten around to this yet. I am quite happy with the machine, but shocked by the high prices on extensions. For instance, I wanted to upgrade my memory from the initial 4 Mb to more. The price of the original 16 Mb ram from IBM was 10.000 danish kroner (appr. 1.800 US$). I then found another supplier which sold me 16 Mb Transcend RAM for half. Then I wanted to get a larger harddisk, but again could not afford the original IBM 810 Mb harddisk and bought an IBM OEM 720 Mb harddisk for a third of the price of the original 810 Mb. Now however this has lead to some problems, because the new harddisk was not recognized by the system and after trying the new one -. the old one does not work. IBM hotline says there is a mechanical error = bad news. Well I suppose this will be sorted out . I am interested in sharing experience with both Windows 95 and Linux on the 755c. I was supposed to install Linux this weekend - but the hardware failure stopped this. BTW I am a research scientist and university teacher in Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery and must I admit: somewhat of an addict for getting the most out of my equipment and money. Sincerely Anders Nattestad ------------------------------------------------------------------- Anders Nattestad, D.D.S., Ph.D, Associate professor, Dep. of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery and Chairman of Information Technology division, Dental School, Faculty of Health Science, University of Copenhagen Norre Alle 20, Copenhagen, Denmark, Ph.+4535326618, Fax +4535326625 ------------------------------------------------------------------- WWW homepage : http://www.odont.ku.dk/home/Anders.Nattestad.html From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 22 02:26:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26266; Mon, 22 May 95 02:26:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15285; Mon, 22 May 1995 02:14:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 22 May 1995 02:14:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from expert.cc.purdue.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA15275; Mon, 22 May 1995 02:14:02 -0400 Received: (from jollymon@localhost) by expert.cc.purdue.edu (8.6.10/8.6.12) id BAA16539 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 22 May 1995 01:14:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 01:14:00 -0500 From: Jason Message-Id: <199505220614.BAA16539@expert.cc.purdue.edu> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Memory for 755Cs I have two questions: 1. Where is a good place to buy 8MB DIMMS. I have a 4MB DRAM card now, but I think(?) that if I buy a DIMM now, I can buy a second later and use both at the same time. Also, how much would this cost? 2. Is it generally considered safe to buy from a person? Does it matter if it is new or used? Thanks P.S. I have a 755Cs with 540 HD and 8MB RAM, just so you know what I am using Jason Sethi jollymon@expert.cc.purdue.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 22 10:56:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21209; Mon, 22 May 95 10:56:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17542; Mon, 22 May 1995 10:06:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 22 May 1995 10:06:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17531; Mon, 22 May 1995 10:06:50 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sDY8e-0004tfC; Mon, 22 May 95 09:07 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sDY8c-0002nbC; Mon, 22 May 95 09:07 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sDY8b-0002wvC; Mon, 22 May 95 09:07 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: 755cx - Mailorder YES, IBM-Direct NO (Long) To: conrada-b%nwu.edu@nwu.edu (Conrad H Albrecht-Buehler) Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 09:07:16 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <199505190124.AA278156688@merle.acns.nwu.edu> from "Conrad H Albrecht-Buehler" at May 18, 95 08:23:56 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [lots of stuff deleted] > see ya. --Conrad > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > conrada-b@nwu.edu > "You know, my father only gave me one piece of advice. He said, 'Son, don't > ever get married; go to sea.'" --Sting With CDW you must understand that ALL of the sales persons are on heavy commission. This means that when someone gives you a price, ask for a better one. Then tell them that you are a stock holder and want the stock holder discount. (No kidding it does work.) Humor aside, when you get a price that you like out of CDW you must place the order on the spot. Even if you live down the street, put the item on will call. The people in the store have no reason to honor any deal which was discussed over the phone. As you can see, I have dealt with CDW a few times myself.... -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 22 11:25:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22726; Mon, 22 May 95 11:25:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21908; Mon, 22 May 1995 11:10:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 22 May 1995 11:10:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from houws001.shl.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21885; Mon, 22 May 1995 11:10:25 -0400 Received: from houmg001.shl.com by houws001.shl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1.8) id AA26345; Mon, 22 May 95 10:11:39 CDT Received: by houmg001.shl.com with Microsoft Mail id <2FC0C575@houmg001.shl.com>; Mon, 22 May 95 10:10:13 PDT From: "WINTERS Kelvin (Kevin)" To: "'tp750'" Cc: "HAMERSLEY Dan (SHINET01)" , NELSON Tim Subject: RE: PCMCIA CD-ROM Date: Mon, 22 May 95 08:11:00 PDT Message-Id: <2FC0C575@houmg001.shl.com> Encoding: 40 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Tim, I've tested the Panasonic CD-ROM out and I think it's excellent. It is a two step installation, as opposed to the numerous steps involved with configuring the SCSI PCMCIA card and the NEC 3xp cd-rom's that we've used in the past. I see absolutely no difference between the Panasonic double speed and the NEC triple speeds performance ?? On a scale of 1 to 10, I would rate this thing a 9 (so far). The only reason that I wouldn't give it a 10 is because it's only a double speed. It's much more cost effective than the TP 755CD's. About a $2000.00 savings if you go with a TP 755CE and the Panasonic CD-ROM. Thanks, Kev kwinters@shl.com ---------- From: NELSON Tim To: HAMERSLEY Dan (SHINET01); WINTERS Kelvin (Kevin) Subject: FW: PCMCIA CD-ROM Date: Friday, May 19, 1995 3:50AM ---------- From: owner-tp750 To: Andrew Stevens Cc: tp750 Subject: Re: PCMCIA CD-ROM Date: Friday, May 19, 1995 1:16PM On Fri, 19 May 1995, Andrew Stevens wrote: > > Hi, I was wondering what the consensus was on the best CD-ROM drive > that will plug into my PCMCIA slot. I notice that Panasonic has a > 2X drive with PCMCIA card for $290. Has anybody successfully hooked > this one up to a 750C? If you have web access, you can read my personal review of mine on http://shadow.net/~dwhite/thinkpad.html If you don't, mail me and I'll send you a copy of it. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 22 11:35:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22938; Mon, 22 May 95 11:35:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22252; Mon, 22 May 1995 11:15:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 22 May 1995 11:15:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mindvox.phantom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22240; Mon, 22 May 1995 11:15:52 -0400 Received: (from alster@localhost) by mindvox.phantom.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) id LAA20322; Mon, 22 May 1995 11:11:03 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 11:11:00 -0400 (EDT) From: taoster! Subject: Thinkpad Drive Connectors To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII So...I have two drives...and two drive enclosures...and two of the connector pieces (part of the enclosure) ....and one of the connectors isn't working..... IBM doesn't seem to sell the part separately. What the f*** should I do now? (eek! self-censorship!) http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 22 11:42:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23466; Mon, 22 May 95 11:42:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23365; Mon, 22 May 1995 11:32:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 22 May 1995 11:32:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA23348; Mon, 22 May 1995 11:32:22 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA06858; Mon, 22 May 95 11:31:52 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 May 95 11:31:52 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505221531.AA06858@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: kwinters@shl.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: PCMCIA CD-ROM Cc: DHamersley@shinet01.losangeles.mm2.shl.com, TNelson@shinet01.losangeles.mm2.shl.com where do you get a $2000 saving. the difference in price I see between a CD and a CE is less than $1000, and you are eating up a few hundred $ with the Panasonic. What's the battery life of the Panasonic? Is it supported by WARP Can you install WARP from the Panasonic? (note that, contrary to some early documentation, you CAN install WARP on a 755CD from the CD ROM, there is a special procedure worked out for this). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 22 13:50:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08280; Mon, 22 May 95 13:50:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02786; Mon, 22 May 1995 13:25:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 22 May 1995 13:25:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sh1.ro.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA02723; Mon, 22 May 1995 13:25:15 -0400 Received: from ts1p2.ro.com (ts1p2.ro.com [204.181.74.22]) by sh1.ro.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA24396 for ; Mon, 22 May 1995 12:29:53 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 12:29:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199505221729.MAA24396@sh1.ro.com> X-Sender: dramsey@ro.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: dramsey@ro.com (Don Ramsey) Subject: Re: Help:Sticky hinges & abuse = cracked cover assembly! >I'll be ordering a new "Top Cover Assembly", and asking tech support >for help, but has anyone had similar troubles? > ... text deleted ... >Guy >...................................................................... >. Guy W. Farrell . >. Laboratory Science House . >. University of Connecticut - Class of 199? . >. . >.E-mail: gfarrell@dormnet.stu1.uconn.edu . >.V-mail: (203) 427-2864 . >...................................................................... Guy, my old 700C had very tight hinges and the right hand hinge finally broke open. My 700C came with on-site warranty for the first year and my IBM guy fixed it by replacing the whole color display. I imagine that you will have to get your display replaced by IBM also. Of course you run the risk of getting a perfect display replaced with one that has a few bad pixels. I was lucky--the replacement screen on my 700C had no bad pixels at all. Don Ramsey From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 22 13:52:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08294; Mon, 22 May 95 13:52:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03117; Mon, 22 May 1995 13:30:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 22 May 1995 13:30:24 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA03083; Mon, 22 May 1995 13:30:21 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144290>; Mon, 22 May 1995 13:29:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: "WINTERS Kelvin (Kevin)"'s message as of May 22, 11:30am X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: PCMCIA CD-ROM Message-Id: <95May22.132958edt.144290@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 13:29:58 -0400 On May 22, 11:30am, "WINTERS Kelvin (Kevin)" wrote: } I've tested the Panasonic CD-ROM out and I think it's excellent. It is a two } step installation, as opposed to the numerous steps involved with } configuring the SCSI PCMCIA card and the NEC 3xp cd-rom's that we've used in } the past. I see absolutely no difference between the Panasonic double speed } and the NEC triple speeds performance ?? On a scale of 1 to 10, I would } rate this thing a 9 (so far). The only reason that I wouldn't give it a 10 } is because it's only a double speed. It's much more cost effective than the } TP 755CD's. About a $2000.00 savings if you go with a TP 755CE and the } Panasonic CD-ROM. I picked up a Raven CD-Note with my CE when I couldn't get the CD. The Raven has the identical specs as the Panasonic, it has the same drivers, and it's made by Matsushita. I haven't seen the Panasonic as distributed in the U.S., but if looks like a duck, ... . I largely agree with the above sentiments; my only beefs are a lack of drivers for OS/2 and for Linux. Anyone have any word on either of these? I'm especially interested in a Linux driver, but I think that it may be far off. Apparently, an OS/2 driver is in the cards, but after having given OS/2 an honest shot, it doesn't have anything to recommend it that Linux doesn't do better (OK, so I'm a UNIX bigot). The last straw was the information hypeway stuff they put in the Warp Bonus Pack: a badly assembled, badly documented package that didn't even include real TCP/IP support. The Windows shareware or Linux alternatives are far superior. Oops, I went off topic. One small thing I noticed that argues for an internal CD is that your footprint dramatically increases the moment the hook up the CD player to your laptop. On the other hand you have to find a place to stick the floppy disk drive on the 755CD, and I still use the floppy a surprising amount. Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 22 14:01:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08560; Mon, 22 May 95 14:01:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04373; Mon, 22 May 1995 13:43:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 22 May 1995 13:43:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA04355; Mon, 22 May 1995 13:43:21 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144290>; Mon, 22 May 1995 13:43:05 -0400 In-Reply-To: Robert Dewar's message as of May 22, 11:47am X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar), kwinters@shl.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: PCMCIA CD-ROM Cc: DHamersley@shinet01.losangeles.mm2.shl.com, TNelson@shinet01.losangeles.mm2.shl.com Message-Id: <95May22.134305edt.144290@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 13:43:00 -0400 On May 22, 11:47am, Robert Dewar wrote: } where do you get a $2000 saving. the difference in price I see between } a CD and a CE is less than $1000, and you are eating up a few hundred $ } with the Panasonic. } } What's the battery life of the Panasonic? } Is it supported by WARP } Can you install WARP from the Panasonic? I didn't say the above, but I can offer a view. The difference between a CE and a CD here after lots of bargaining was about $CDN1500. After the CD-ROM, that left $CDN1000, and for that, I'm losing a MIDI port, and low-quality (remember I'm a graphics guy) video scan conversion. I really would have liked both of these features, but they're easy to buy for less than $1000. Unfortunately I'm sure I'd end up spending more than that on the video, given my "quality" pretensions, so I'm trying to keep away from the stores. As for Robert's points regarding the Panasonic, he's quite correct. I don't bother with batteries on mine (though I will when in Europe). Warp doesn't support it nor can install it from CD-ROM. So I created 30 floppies and felt sorry for myself, thinking I should have got a supported quad speed CD player through a parallel port. But then I realised that almost anyone who updates either PCMCIA or video drivers under WARP is going to have to make some diskette images (but not 30 diskettes worth). Again, Linux is better on this score. I can't install Linux from my CD-player, but I can take the entire Linux distribution off CD-ROM and put it in a DOS/Windows partition, and build Linux from there. EZ. The Warp people could easily have done this too. Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 22 14:15:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09274; Mon, 22 May 95 14:15:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06066; Mon, 22 May 1995 14:02:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 22 May 1995 14:02:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA06053; Mon, 22 May 1995 14:02:35 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA07842; Mon, 22 May 95 14:03:23 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 May 95 14:03:23 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505221803.AA07842@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: elf@dgp.toronto.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: RE: PCMCIA CD-ROM one other *realy* annoyin characteristic of the 755CD is having to remove the CD-ROM to change the battery. Some other notes: the batteries install differently on the 755CE/CD/CX than on previous thinkpads, use the blue ribbon to pull BACK, not UP. I already pulled a ribbon completely out of a Lithium Ion battery finding this out (IBM replaced it by next day air, good for them!) You *can* install WARP from the internal CD ROM and internal diskette, despite statements to the contrary in the dodcumentation shipped with the 755CD. In my CX, I got a little booklet How to Use OS/2 Warp with Your Computer 85G9474 that covers all the models, and in particular has a specific procedure for installing Warp from the internal CD ROM with an internal diskette. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 22 16:48:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16394; Mon, 22 May 95 16:48:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19969; Mon, 22 May 1995 16:32:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 22 May 1995 16:32:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ns9000.furman.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19958; Mon, 22 May 1995 16:32:27 -0400 From: Received: from by ns9000.furman.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.15/16.2) id AA250815301; Mon, 22 May 1995 16:41:41 -0400 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Mon, 22 May 95 16:41:30 -0400 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <46533232EFF@odont.ku.dk> Subject: Introducing me and my tp755c To: an@odont.ku.dk Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Item Subject: Message text > I removed the dos+windows installation and placed the preview release > of windows 95 (build 347) on it. I have had no real problems with the > installation, but are still lacking 256 color support and sound. I > suppose I could use the old drivers, but I have gotten around to this > yet. You can use Windows 95's Western Digital drivers for 256 color on the LCD (actually shades of grey on my machine, a TP750 mono) and 256 colors at up to 1024x768 on an external monitor. The trick is having the following line in CONFIG.SYS: DEVICE=C:\IBMVESA\VESA.EXE Make sure that the file is there and that there is also a properly configured file called FRATE.DAT in the same directory. The Video Features Disk installation handles this. The VESA.EXE program is apparently some kind of BIOS extension. I've seen at least one other machine (an AT&T Globalyst) with the same kind of situation under Win95. Note that this device driver can't be loaded high; don't waste your time trying. The Win95 drivers are great; you can change resolutions on the fly. I work on my external monitor most of the time in 800x600. When I start crowding the screen with lots of windows, I just go into Desktop Properties and switch to 1024x768 and wait for about 2 seconds. The ThinkPad drivers for Win3.1 work also, but there's no reason I can see to use them. As for audio support, you'll have to use the ThinkPad Win3.1 drivers here. The good news is that they work just fine for WAV and MIDI. Just run the install program on the Audio Features Disk. For some reason, though, the install program doesn't properly update SYSTEM.INI. The README on the Audio Features Disk indicates the proper settings. Win95 seems especially stable on my ThinkPad, more so than on other machines I've tested it on. I think you'll like running it on your 'Pad. Wesley Dunaway Dunaway_Wesley/furman@furman.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 22 17:57:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21532; Mon, 22 May 95 17:57:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26594; Mon, 22 May 1995 17:39:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 22 May 1995 17:39:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26584; Mon, 22 May 1995 17:39:26 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.44] (mac44.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA01148; Mon, 22 May 95 17:39:05 EDT Message-Id: <9505222139.AA01148@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 17:48:37 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: Introducing me and my tp755c >Note that this device driver can't be loaded high; don't waste your time >trying. I thought that win95 was supposed to eliminate this distinction. This sounds like 3.1 all over again. ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 22 18:22:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23204; Mon, 22 May 95 18:22:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29242; Mon, 22 May 1995 18:07:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 22 May 1995 18:07:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29231; Mon, 22 May 1995 18:07:26 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA13557; Mon, 22 May 95 18:08:07 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 May 95 18:08:07 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505222208.AA13557@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Introducing me and my tp755c this sounds like 3.1 all over again you expected something different? :-) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 22 18:22:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23209; Mon, 22 May 95 18:22:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29272; Mon, 22 May 1995 18:08:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 22 May 1995 18:08:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from asimov.cnam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA29256; Mon, 22 May 1995 18:08:01 -0400 Received: from (eronald@localhost) by asimov.cnam.fr id AAA00260 (8.6.12/); Tue, 23 May 1995 00:07:54 +0200 From: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 00:07:54 +0200 Message-Id: <199505222207.AAA00260@asimov.cnam.fr> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, dramsey@ro.com Subject: Re: Help:Sticky hinges & abuse = cracked cover assembly! My 720 C had the right hinge crack too. Design fault i think. Took IBM Paris 3 weeks to replace the screen assembly. Edmund. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 22 23:43:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24520; Mon, 22 May 95 23:43:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20277; Mon, 22 May 1995 23:32:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 22 May 1995 23:32:00 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from grolsch.cs.ubc.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA20255; Mon, 22 May 1995 23:31:57 -0400 Received: (from ean@localhost) by grolsch.cs.ubc.ca (8.6.10/8.6.9) id UAA05367 for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU; Mon, 22 May 1995 20:31:24 -0700 X400-Received: by /PRMD=ca/ADMD=telecom.canada/C=ca/; Relayed; Mon, 22 May 1995 20:31:22 UTC-0700 Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 20:31:22 UTC-0700 X400-Originator: goldberg@cs.ubc.ca X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=ca/ADMD=telecom.canada/C=ca/;950522203122] Content-Identifier: 5160 From: "Murray W. Goldberg" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <"5160*goldberg@cs.ubc.ca"@MHS> Subject: Thinkpad replacement disks Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Ean X.400 to MIME gateway) Well - I still need a bigger drive for my 360C, so after poring through the Computer Shopper I came up with a couple supposed sources. Has anyone seen these? Kahlon Inc: in Yorba Linda CA, "IBM Thinkpad Hard Drives for 350, 360, 750, 755, All drives include removable case and installation instructions. ..... 540MB: $550, ... 810MB: $785". -- This seems very cheap to me. This place sells new and used, but I can't imagine there being a source of used 810MB 2.5" drives. I wonder what the brand is. The warrenty is 1 year. INDUS Group: in Irvine CA, "IBM Thinkpad HDD, ... 540MB $789, ... ... 810MB: call". -- this isn't quite as cheap, but still cheaper than IBM and the place in Florida mentioned in this group (sorry - I don't have the name handy). No mention if the plastic case is included. Anyway - I am (of course) suspicious. I am going to find out more. In the meantime - has anyone heard of either of these places? Thanks - Murray From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 23 00:16:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00638; Tue, 23 May 95 00:16:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23576; Tue, 23 May 1995 00:09:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 23 May 1995 00:09:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from merle.acns.nwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA23566; Tue, 23 May 1995 00:09:40 -0400 Received: by merle.acns.nwu.edu (1.37.109.16/20.3) id AA236772176; Mon, 22 May 1995 23:09:36 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 23:09:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Conrad Albrecht-Buehler Subject: Anyone need 2MB? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've got an extra 2MB thinkpad RAM card. Anyone want it? $55. includes shipping. see ya. --Conrad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- conrada-b@nwu.edu "You know, my father only gave me one piece of advice. He said, 'Son, don't ever get married; go to sea.'" --Sting From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 23 07:17:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00239; Tue, 23 May 95 07:17:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA25029; Tue, 23 May 1995 07:03:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 23 May 1995 07:03:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ursa.cns.umist.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA25019; Tue, 23 May 1995 07:03:55 -0400 Received: from fs2.ee.umist.ac.uk by ursa.cns.umist.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 23 May 1995 12:05:05 +0100 Received: from UMIST-EE-FS2/MAILQUEUE by fs2.ee.umist.ac.uk (Mercury 1.20); 23 May 95 12:19:54 GMT Received: from MAILQUEUE by UMIST-EE-FS2 (Mercury 1.20); 23 May 95 12:19:22 GMT From: DH WILLIAMS To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 12:19:19 GMT Subject: Warp - HPFS or FAT X-Confirm-Reading-To: "DH WILLIAMS" X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.21 Message-Id: <4B38AEC7572@fs2.ee.umist.ac.uk> Hi there! Anybody know if running warp on a FAT drive is significantly slower than an HPFS drive, especially on larger drives such as the TP7xx 810 MB hard disk? Danny ******** Garfield rules O.K. ********* (wdh@fs2.ee.umist.ac.uk) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 23 07:44:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00441; Tue, 23 May 95 07:44:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27289; Tue, 23 May 1995 07:36:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 23 May 1995 07:36:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA27267; Tue, 23 May 1995 07:36:26 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA11001; Tue, 23 May 95 07:35:58 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 May 95 07:35:58 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505231135.AA11001@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: WDH@fs2.ee.umist.ac.uk, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Warp - HPFS or FAT WARP on FAT is significantly slower than on HPFS, EXCEPT, and this is an important EXCEPT. WARP still has the ludicrous 2 meg limit on cache size. If you have a lot of memory, and can affford a big disk cache, this can easily tip the balance and make FAT faster (the FAT cache does not have this size limitation). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 23 12:18:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12926; Tue, 23 May 95 12:18:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19081; Tue, 23 May 1995 12:01:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 23 May 1995 12:01:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA19071; Tue, 23 May 1995 12:01:38 -0400 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA08640; Tue, 23 May 95 10:01:01 MDT Date: Tue, 23 May 95 10:01:01 MDT From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9505231601.AA08640@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 28.8 PCMCIA modem recommendation I'm thinking about stepping up to a 28.8 modem, probably of the Megahertz X-jack variety. I've been using a 14.4 MHz X-jack for about a year now, and I've got nothing but good things to say about it. However, I seem to recall a thread from this mailing list in which the 28.8 Megahertz was taking a beating... Is there anybody out there using one of these beasties? Does it coexist OK with the Thinkpad Easy Play drivers? Is 28.8 generally obtainable, or do the analog phone lines render 28.8 a pipe dream? Thanks in advance for your help. -- Karl E. Yeanoplos Denver, CO kyeanopl@den.mmc.com / key@csn.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 23 14:16:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28097; Tue, 23 May 95 14:16:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27304; Tue, 23 May 1995 13:59:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 23 May 1995 13:59:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA27294; Tue, 23 May 1995 13:59:14 -0400 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by Eisner.DECUS.Org (PMDF V4.2-12 #4291) id <01HQUFFK4ZWG000LJN@Eisner.DECUS.Org>; Tue, 23 May 1995 13:58:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 13:58:54 -0400 (EDT) From: billy@mix.com Subject: Re: 28.8 PCMCIA modem recommendation In-Reply-To: <9505231601.AA08640@amazon.den.mmc.com> Sender: YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <801251934.979635.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Mail-System-Version: Karl Yeanoplos writes - > I'm thinking about stepping up to a 28.8 modem, probably > of the Megahertz X-jack variety. I've been contemplating this myself, yet there's one parameter concerning the operation of these modems that's proven extremely difficult to pin down, and that concerns the time it takes for data to make their way through one of these devices. It's only milliseconds, but the difference between 150ms and 600ms is very significant, especially when running an interactive session on the called system. One is zippy and the other is a slug, especially with any typing ahead. These numbers are in fact the actual performance of a Telebit T-3000 vs. the MWave modem in a TP-755CE. So - what would really help here is if those who have these could make some measurements and report them, so a list could be assembled and comparisons made. I realize this is not an easy thing to accurately determine without proper test instruments, however a pretty good informal observation can be made via the ping utility supplied with most of the TCP/IP software packages. First, traceroute to your IP gateway ('hop check' in Winsock). The first hop shown may or may not be the same place, in any event note the address of the first hop (often a terminal server) then ping it and get the round trip time. It may take 20-30 pings to get a good average, and if it's varying wildly it'd be best to try again some time when the system isn't as significantly loaded. What I've learned so far - Telebit T-3000 (reference) 150 ms TDK 14.4 PCMCIA 270 ms MWave software V1.0 650 ms MWave software V1.1 600 ms Of course these are all taken at 14.4, but the basic idea remains the same. Thanks! Billy Y.. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 23 14:35:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00405; Tue, 23 May 95 14:35:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29111; Tue, 23 May 1995 14:26:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 23 May 1995 14:26:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA29088; Tue, 23 May 1995 14:26:25 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA25581; Tue, 23 May 95 14:26:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 May 95 14:26:52 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505231826.AA25581@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: billy@mix.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 28.8 PCMCIA modem recommendation incidentally, I know the figures for the Mwave software have not looked good, but in practice, I don't know why, the throughput with the Mwave modem is MUCH better than with the 14.4 Megahertz modem, and comparable with what I get from the 28.8 Megahertz (which in practice is not that much faster -- don't know why). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 23 16:47:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20993; Tue, 23 May 95 16:47:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11444; Tue, 23 May 1995 16:35:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 23 May 1995 16:35:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sh1.ro.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11431; Tue, 23 May 1995 16:35:46 -0400 Received: from ts1p1.ro.com (ts1p1.ro.com [204.181.74.21]) by sh1.ro.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA16249; Tue, 23 May 1995 15:39:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 15:39:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199505232039.PAA16249@sh1.ro.com> X-Sender: dramsey@ro.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: dramsey@ro.com (Don Ramsey) Subject: Re: Help:Sticky hinges & abuse = cracked cover assembly! Cc: Joshua Hosseinoff It was the right hand hinge next to the status LEDs. It was a very common problem on the 700 series that the hinges had too little lubrication. The case would creak as you opened it. The hinges were just flexed too much every time it opened and the right one finally gap'd open about a quarter of an inch. My IBM guy had tried to lubricate it about a month before it broke but to no avail. There were warning messages posted on the Compuserve Thinkpad Forum to the effect that you could ruin the color display if you tried to oil the hinges. I figured that my IBM guy would just get me a new display if he messed it up with his lubricant but he ended up replacing it because of the cracked hinge instead. Hope this helps you isolate your problem. Don. >Sorry, could you explain which hinge specifically as I have a problem on >my 700 and was wondering if it's what you describe. Now is it the part >where it clicks in near the front of the keyboard or do you mean where >the LCD turns (by the status LED's). My problem is by the right hinge >next to the status LED's. >Thanks From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 23 17:55:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00309; Tue, 23 May 95 17:55:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17974; Tue, 23 May 1995 17:45:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 23 May 1995 17:45:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from panix3.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA17963; Tue, 23 May 1995 17:45:48 -0400 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix3.panix.com (8.6.12/8.6.12+PanixU1.0) id RAA03012; Tue, 23 May 1995 17:45:35 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 17:45:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael MacDonald To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 28.8 PCMCIA modem recommendation In-Reply-To: <9505231826.AA25581@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII According to IBM, the MWAVE 28.8 software upgrade will be released early next month, so I'd wait before buying a Megahertz PCMCIA if you own a 755ce/cd. As for whether 28.8 is ever obtainable, the answer is generally no. I use a external Supra modem with my 755cd, and rarely get above 26.4. My average is around 24K. Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 23 19:58:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18618; Tue, 23 May 95 19:58:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25352; Tue, 23 May 1995 19:44:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 23 May 1995 19:44:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ECE.ORST.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA25342; Tue, 23 May 1995 19:44:28 -0400 Received: from watson.ECE.ORST.EDU by ECE.ORST.EDU with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA06178; Tue, 23 May 1995 16:44:26 -0700 Received: by watson.ECE.ORST.EDU (1.37.109.16/HP-Client) id AA027412665; Tue, 23 May 1995 16:44:25 -0700 Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 16:44:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Lee To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Hello! Waiting for 755CD... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello all! I've ordered a ThinkPad 755CD and am waiting anxiously for it to arrive (around June 5th they say). In the meantime, I am looking to sell/trade my current system, a Toshiba 4600C. Here are the details: Toshiba T4600C, 486SL-enhanced 33MHz 12 MB RAM TFT Color Active Matrix Screen (perfect - NO stuck pixels) 340 MB Hard Disk, 1.44 MB Floppy 1 Type II, 1 Type III+ PCMCIA slots 40 MB PCMCIA Hard Disk 2 MB SRAM PCMCIA Card Parallel/SCSI Adapter 2 AC Adapters 2 BallPoint Mice (mouses?) w/QuickPort connectors (snaps on side of unit) 2 Toshiba NiMH Batteries Dual Battery Quick Charger Black Toshiba Carry Case DOS 6.22, WFW 3.11, OS/2 Warp Stacker, Procomm Plus/Win, Office 4.2 All the standard Toshiba stuff (MaxTime, etc.) Printed & HyperText Manuals I used to use this to shuttle between the office and home, but now I have a home office and no longer need it. The forthcoming '755CD will be my main machine (I also ordered a Dock I). I am still looking for a light weight machine to replace my paper-based PIM (a Franklin Day-Planner). The Toshiba is just too heavy/bulky. Mayble something along the lines of a ThinkPad 500 series, or a GateWay Handbook, OmniBook 600, Dauphin DTR-1, etc. You get the idea. If you have a small/light machine and would like to trade (or partial trade) for the above mentioned Toshiba system, please send email to jlee@ece.orst.edu. I promise not to clutter this group further with non-ThinkPad stuff (but after all, I *am* waiting for one to arrive...) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 23 20:09:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20838; Tue, 23 May 95 20:09:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26307; Tue, 23 May 1995 19:58:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 23 May 1995 19:58:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from UTKVM1.UTK.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA26297; Tue, 23 May 1995 19:58:27 -0400 Message-Id: <199505232358.TAA26297@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from UTKVM1.BITNET by UTKVM1.UTK.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6876; Tue, 23 May 95 19:57:45 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU by UTKVM1.BITNET (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 4568; Tue, 23 May 95 19:57:45 LCL Received: from WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (NJE origin KRUCK@WVNVM) by WVNVM.WVNET.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8133; Tue, 23 May 1995 19:54:46 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 19:54:45 -0400 (EDT) From: To: Subject: need help Hi, I have a TP750 mono with 20 meg ram, 340 HD. I have been accessing the internet via a school computer, and just purchased a Megahertz 2144 x-jack and procomm plus for windows. I use a TVI 950 terminal emulater to hook to an IBM 3270 mainframe. The problem: using the TVI 950 emulator, when there is a need to send a signal to "clear" the screen (i.e. when I receive the message "holding" or "more...", on a full size keyboard I use the keystroke [Ctrl-PgDn], and this only works using the [PgDn] of the numeric keypad. I have tried every combination to use the imbedded keypad on my thinkpad, but can't get it to function the same way as the keystroke on the full- size keyboard. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance, Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 23 22:36:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11885; Tue, 23 May 95 22:36:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07142; Tue, 23 May 1995 22:24:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 23 May 1995 22:24:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA07132; Tue, 23 May 1995 22:24:10 -0400 Received: from alcor.usc.edu (whittle@alcor.usc.edu [128.125.253.169]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id TAA03594; Tue, 23 May 1995 19:24:08 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by alcor.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id TAA28856; Tue, 23 May 1995 19:23:53 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199505240223.TAA28856@alcor.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 28.8 PCMCIA modem recommendation To: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 19:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9505231601.AA08640@amazon.den.mmc.com> from "Karl Yeanoplos" at May 23, 95 10:01:01 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm thinking about stepping up to a 28.8 modem, probably > of the Megahertz X-jack variety. I've been using a 14.4 I have a cheap copy of the X-Jack called "EZ-Jack" and the modem is manufactured by Practical Peripherals. > Is there anybody out there using one of these beasties? > Does it coexist OK with the Thinkpad Easy Play drivers? Mine does fine. I presume the MHz, which has a good reputation for compatibility with the IBM machines, would also. > Is 28.8 generally obtainable, or do the analog phone lines > render 28.8 a pipe dream? Pretty much. :) You'll should regularly get 24K or 26.4K connects though. I've never once gotten a 28.8K connect. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 23 22:55:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13845; Tue, 23 May 95 22:55:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29798; Tue, 23 May 1995 20:43:44 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 23 May 1995 20:43:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA29788; Tue, 23 May 1995 20:43:40 -0400 Received: from p75.slip.net (sfsp45.slip.net [204.160.88.209]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA12359; Tue, 23 May 1995 17:43:25 -0700 Message-Id: <199505240043.RAA12359@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 17:43:25 -0700 To: , From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: need help If I understand you to mean that you're using procomm plus win to do the connecting, you can remap the keyboard to send whatever you want, including the number pad's pgup and pgdn keys. At 07:54 PM 5/23/95 -0400, KRUCK@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU wrote: >Hi, I have a TP750 mono with 20 meg ram, 340 HD. > >I have been accessing the internet via a school >computer, and just purchased a Megahertz 2144 >x-jack and procomm plus for windows. I use a >TVI 950 terminal emulater to hook to an IBM 3270 >mainframe. > >The problem: using the TVI 950 emulator, when there >is a need to send a signal to "clear" the screen (i.e. >when I receive the message "holding" or "more...", on >a full size keyboard I use the keystroke [Ctrl-PgDn], >and this only works using the [PgDn] of the numeric >keypad. I have tried every combination to use the >imbedded keypad on my thinkpad, but can't get it to >function the same way as the keystroke on the full- >size keyboard. >Any suggestions? Thanks in advance, > >Keith > > ____________________________________________________________________ http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 23 23:26:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17465; Tue, 23 May 95 23:26:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11264; Tue, 23 May 1995 23:18:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 23 May 1995 23:18:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from ix2.ix.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA11254; Tue, 23 May 1995 23:18:27 -0400 Received: from by ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id UAA05262; Tue, 23 May 1995 20:17:04 -0700 Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 20:17:04 -0700 Message-Id: <199505240317.UAA05262@ix2.ix.netcom.com> From: tvaughan@ix.netcom.com (Thomas Vaughan) Subject: 750 - Linux To: tp750@cs.utk.edu Someone recently posted a message that they installed Linux on a TP750 or 755 without having to do anything special to get the install to work. What version of Linux were you using and did you have a 2.88 MB floppy? I am interested in installing Linux with the PCMCIA drivers on my 750C and welcome all advice from prior users. Thanks, Tom tvaughan@ix.netcom.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 24 08:26:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27834; Wed, 24 May 95 08:26:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28121; Wed, 24 May 1995 08:11:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 24 May 1995 08:11:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dns004.ford.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28111; Wed, 24 May 1995 08:11:44 -0400 Received: from mailhost.fsic.ford.com (hpuxsrve.fsic.ford.com [19.88.32.29]) by dns004.ford.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA25719 for ; Wed, 24 May 1995 08:11:38 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mailhost.fsic.ford.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA05632 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 24 May 1995 08:12:40 -0400 From: "Adam Wilkinson" Message-Id: <9505240812.ZM5629@hpuxsrve.fsic.ford.com> Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 08:12:39 -0400 Received: from sun1 by mailhost.fsic.ford.com (8.6.9/FORDHUB-0.1) id IAA05576; Wed, 24 May 1995 08:12:37 -0400 Received: from ren0010.so.ford.com by sun1 (5.0/FORDCLIENT-0.1) id AA16745; Wed, 24 May 1995 08:03:04 +0500 Received: from REN0010/PMAIL by ren0010.so.ford.com (Mercury 1.12); Wed, 24 May 95 8:10:43 +1100 Received: from PMAIL by REN0010 (Mercury 1.11); Wed, 24 May 95 8:10:41 +1100 To: Jim Lee , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Hello! Waiting for 755CD... Reply-To: awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com X-Confirm-Reading-To: awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 07feb95) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 16:44:25 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jim Lee > To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > Subject: Hello! Waiting for 755CD... > Hello all! > > I am still looking for a > light weight machine to replace my paper-based PIM (a Franklin Day-Planner). > The Toshiba is just too heavy/bulky. Mayble something along the lines of > a ThinkPad 500 series, or a GateWay Handbook, OmniBook 600, Dauphin DTR-1, > etc. Jim, I realize you're looking for a trade, but if you decide to buy, take a serious look at the ThinkPad 701 (aka Butterfly)! This is one heck of a machine in a "subnotebook" form factor. Except that the expanding keyboard is the same size as the 755CD, as is the dual-scan or active matrix screen. While IBM couldn't find enough real estate for the MWave, they do have a DSP for sound and 14.4Kbps modem. -- Adam Lee Wilkinson Portable Computing Technology Specialist Ford Motor Co. - Marketing & Sales Systems awilkin1@ren0010.so.ford.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 24 11:28:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23682; Wed, 24 May 95 11:28:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17187; Wed, 24 May 1995 11:12:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 24 May 1995 11:12:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17174; Wed, 24 May 1995 11:12:06 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sEI6H-0004uIC; Wed, 24 May 95 10:11 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sEI6F-0002nbC; Wed, 24 May 95 10:11 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sEI6E-0002wvC; Wed, 24 May 95 10:11 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: 28.8 PCMCIA modem recommendation To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randal Whittle) Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 10:11:53 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <199505240223.TAA28856@alcor.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at May 23, 95 07:23:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Mine does fine. I presume the MHz, which has a good > reputation for compatibility with the IBM machines, would also. The 28.8 Megahertz is based upon the AT&T chip set. The 14.4 was Rockwell, thus compatibility is not a given. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 24 12:10:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28998; Wed, 24 May 95 12:10:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22109; Wed, 24 May 1995 11:56:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 24 May 1995 11:56:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22093; Wed, 24 May 1995 11:56:24 -0400 From: Received: by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA79304; Wed, 24 May 1995 15:56:14 GMT Received: from slip145-1.ut.nl.ibm.net(129.37.145.1) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaYpwDmb; Wed May 24 15:55:21 1995 Received: by slip145-1.ut.nl.ibm.net (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/2.12um) id AA0230; Wed, 24 May 95 17:54:20 -0700 Message-Id: <9505250054.AA0230@slip145-1.ut.nl.ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 24 May 95 17:34:46 -0100 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Hello! Waiting for 755CD... X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <210_69_1_801351286> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ..you're waiting for the TP755CD... Me was waiting for more than six months (order was issued on November '94): now I'm proud to have it here on my desk...!!! Probably it's not a problem here in Italy, as I supposed, but it's a general problem for all countries. Hope you'll so excited as me when receive your 755CD...it's a great "bundle" when it come, full of surprises and more to discover... Happy TP'ing ;-) Cheers! Alberto Enna 2:335/12.0@fidonet.org 81:439/4.0@os2net.ftn aenna@ibm.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 24 12:12:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29224; Wed, 24 May 95 12:12:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22642; Wed, 24 May 1995 12:03:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 24 May 1995 12:03:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA22632; Wed, 24 May 1995 12:03:07 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA01696; Wed, 24 May 95 12:03:57 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 May 95 12:03:57 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505241603.AA01696@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Lithium Ion batteries who knows about care and feeding of these beasts I take it they have NO memory effects, because IBM specifically applies the warning about full discharge only to the NiMH batteries. Also, is it OK to just leave them in the macnine the whole time trickle charging, I note that unlike the case with the NiMH batteries, they are maintained at 100% (you don't se the cycling down to 90%) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 24 12:15:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00154; Wed, 24 May 95 12:15:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22132; Wed, 24 May 1995 11:57:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 24 May 1995 11:56:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA22122; Wed, 24 May 1995 11:56:57 -0400 From: Received: by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA42476; Wed, 24 May 1995 15:56:55 GMT Received: from slip145-1.ut.nl.ibm.net(129.37.145.1) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smapbQDmb; Wed May 24 15:56:09 1995 Received: by slip145-1.ut.nl.ibm.net (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/2.12um) id AA0231; Wed, 24 May 95 17:55:03 -0700 Message-Id: <9505250055.AA0231@slip145-1.ut.nl.ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 24 May 95 17:40:56 -0100 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: My brand new TP 755CD is here.... X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <210_69_1_801351657> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's my TP's configuration: ThinkPad 755CD 8MB Ram + 8 IC DRAM HD 540 MB Floppy 1.44 Dock 1 PC DOS 6.3 + Win 3.1 All software bundles and Multimedia Library I'm gonna to install OS/2 Warp on it, but, instead to buy the IBM TP 555Mb streamer, I've just taken a Conner 250Mb QIC-80 streamer for the parallel port...it works fine! I've backupped all the disk C:\ into a 3M 2120 Ximat minicartridge, and now I can repartioning the hard disk to install my "beloved" OS/2 on the TP... Hope to hear from anyone here in my same condition. Cheers! Alberto Enna 2:335/12.0@fidonet.org 81:439/4.0@os2net.ftn aenna@ibm.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 24 12:50:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA01903; Wed, 24 May 95 12:50:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26395; Wed, 24 May 1995 12:37:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 24 May 1995 12:37:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26371; Wed, 24 May 1995 12:37:12 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA02297; Wed, 24 May 95 12:38:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 May 95 12:38:02 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505241638.AA02297@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, aenna@ibm.net Subject: Re: My brand new TP 755CD is here.... if you want to install warp on the 755CD, get the CD ROM version, and be sure to get the booklet "How to use OS/2 Warp with Your COmputer" 85G9474", which came with my 755CX, but not with my 755CD. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 24 13:40:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13464; Wed, 24 May 95 13:40:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00927; Wed, 24 May 1995 13:28:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 24 May 1995 13:28:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from doblegate.doble.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA00917; Wed, 24 May 1995 13:28:43 -0400 From: Received: from ccMail by doblegate.doble.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id fc36c930; Wed, 24 May 95 13:27:47 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 13:26:52 -0400 Message-Id: To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randal Whittle), strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) Subject: Re[2]: 28.8 PCMCIA modem recommendation Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.801336467" This is a Mime message, which your current mail reader may not understand. 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Contact your vendor for details. --IMA.Boundary.801336467 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Received: from [128.169.94.1] by doblegate.doble.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id fc351a10; Wed, 24 May 95 11:32:49 -0400 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17187; Wed, 24 May 1995 11:12:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 24 May 1995 11:12:08 EDT Errors-to: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17174; Wed, 24 May 1995 11:12:06 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smt p (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sEI6H-0004uIC; Wed, 24 May 95 10:11 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sEI6F-0002nbC; Wed, 24 May 95 10:11 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sEI6E-0002wvC; Wed, 24 May 95 10:11 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: 28.8 PCMCIA modem recommendation To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randal Whittle) Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 10:11:53 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <199505240223.TAA28856@alcor.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at May 2 3, 95 07:23:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --IMA.Boundary.801336467 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part >The 28.8 Megahertz is based upon the AT&T chip set. The 14.4 was >Rockwell, thus compatibility is not a given. I hear that the AT&T chip set does not support V.Fast (V.FC). There are still some systems using V.FC. 73 Eric WB1HBU eac@shore.net --IMA.Boundary.801336467-- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 24 13:48:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14410; Wed, 24 May 95 13:48:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01565; Wed, 24 May 1995 13:37:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 24 May 1995 13:37:07 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01547; Wed, 24 May 1995 13:37:03 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sEKNF-0004ucC; Wed, 24 May 95 12:37 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sEKNE-0002nbC; Wed, 24 May 95 12:37 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sEKND-0002wvC; Wed, 24 May 95 12:37 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Re[2]: 28.8 PCMCIA modem recommendation To: ecottrell@doble.com Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 12:37:35 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: from "ecottrell@doble.com" at May 24, 95 01:26:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >The 28.8 Megahertz is based upon the AT&T chip set. The 14.4 was > >Rockwell, thus compatibility is not a given. > > I hear that the AT&T chip set does not support V.Fast (V.FC). > There are still some systems using V.FC. V.FC is a Rockwell protocol, V.32Turbo is AT&T. (Oil and water...) -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 24 13:52:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15063; Wed, 24 May 95 13:52:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01926; Wed, 24 May 1995 13:39:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 24 May 1995 13:39:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA01906; Wed, 24 May 1995 13:39:27 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sEKPS-0004ueC; Wed, 24 May 95 12:39 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sEKPQ-0002nbC; Wed, 24 May 95 12:39 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sEKPQ-0002wvC; Wed, 24 May 95 12:39 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Lithium Ion batteries To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 12:39:52 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9505241603.AA01696@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> from "Robert Dewar" at May 24, 95 12:03:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > who knows about care and feeding of these beasts > > I take it they have NO memory effects, because IBM specifically applies > the warning about full discharge only to the NiMH batteries. > > Also, is it OK to just leave them in the macnine the whole time > trickle charging, I note that unlike the case with the NiMH batteries, > they are maintained at 100% (you don't se the cycling down to 90%) I assume that they are based upon the Sony cells. Basically other than size, cost and a small explosion hazard, they are an ideal battery. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 24 15:44:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00148; Wed, 24 May 95 15:44:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11461; Wed, 24 May 1995 15:30:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 24 May 1995 15:30:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA11396; Wed, 24 May 1995 15:30:17 -0400 Received: from mekab.usc.edu (whittle@mekab.usc.edu [128.125.253.171]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id MAA00603; Wed, 24 May 1995 12:30:15 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by mekab.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id MAA19798; Wed, 24 May 1995 12:30:13 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199505241930.MAA19798@mekab.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Lithium Ion batteries To: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 12:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Scott Stratmoen" at May 24, 95 12:39:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I assume that they are based upon the Sony cells. Basically other than > size, cost and a small explosion hazard, they are an ideal battery. Oh yeah, other than the fact that they have a tendency to EXPLODE, they're great! ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 24 21:37:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20877; Wed, 24 May 95 21:37:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13154; Wed, 24 May 1995 21:27:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 24 May 1995 21:27:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13144; Wed, 24 May 1995 21:27:18 -0400 Received: from scunix4.harvard.edu by husc.harvard.edu with SMTP; Wed, 24 May 1995 21:27:13 -0400 Message-Id: <199505250127.VAA20242@husc.harvard.edu> Received: from fas.harvard.edu by scunix4.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA27212; Wed, 24 May 1995 21:27:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 21:27:36 -0400 X-Sender: chan4@scunix3.harvard.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: chan4@husc.harvard.edu (Derek V. Chan) Subject: Re: Re[2]: 28.8 PCMCIA modem recommendation Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) X-Mailer: > >The 28.8 Megahertz is based upon the AT&T chip set. The 14.4 was > >Rockwell, thus compatibility is not a given. > > I hear that the AT&T chip set does not support V.Fast (V.FC). > There are still some systems using V.FC. V.FC is a Rockwell protocol, V.32Turbo is AT&T. (Oil and water...) -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) -- Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com chan4@fas.harvard.edu chan4@scws1.harvard.edu chan4@husc7.harvard.edu chan4@i.want.out.of.harvard.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 24 21:38:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20886; Wed, 24 May 95 21:38:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13184; Wed, 24 May 1995 21:28:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 24 May 1995 21:28:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA13174; Wed, 24 May 1995 21:28:23 -0400 Received: from scunix4.harvard.edu by husc.harvard.edu with SMTP; Wed, 24 May 1995 21:28:21 -0400 Message-Id: <199505250128.VAA20567@husc.harvard.edu> Received: from fas.harvard.edu by scunix4.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA27247; Wed, 24 May 1995 21:28:44 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 21:28:44 -0400 X-Sender: chan4@scunix3.harvard.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: chan4@husc.harvard.edu (Derek V. Chan) Subject: Re: Re[2]: 28.8 PCMCIA modem recommendation X-Mailer: >> >The 28.8 Megahertz is based upon the AT&T chip set. The 14.4 was >> >Rockwell, thus compatibility is not a given. >> >> I hear that the AT&T chip set does not support V.Fast (V.FC). >> There are still some systems using V.FC. > >V.FC is a Rockwell protocol, V.32Turbo is AT&T. (Oil and water...) >-- Well, CDW is selling the Hayes Optima 28.8 w/ X-Jack for $299. Anyone use it? -- Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com chan4@fas.harvard.edu chan4@scws1.harvard.edu chan4@husc7.harvard.edu chan4@i.want.out.of.harvard.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 25 09:01:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21769; Thu, 25 May 95 09:01:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15029; Thu, 25 May 1995 08:39:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 25 May 1995 08:39:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from sh1.ro.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA15009; Thu, 25 May 1995 08:39:29 -0400 Received: from ts1p1.ro.com (ts1p1.ro.com [204.181.74.21]) by sh1.ro.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA17407 for ; Thu, 25 May 1995 07:43:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 07:43:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199505251243.HAA17407@sh1.ro.com> X-Sender: dramsey@ro.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: dramsey@ro.com (Don Ramsey) Subject: Re: Re[2]: 28.8 PCMCIA modem recommendation I live in Huntsville, AL where Motorola/UDS is located. A friend of mine who is an engineer there says that they will be bringing out a PCMCIA version of their Power series of 28.8 modems later this summer or so. The main problem they are having is that the transformer used in the DAA to interface to the telephone line doesn't downsize well to fit in a PCMCIA case. It changes the characteristics of the thing so much that it affects other stuff in the modem. When they get the problems ironed out I plan to get one of their modems. The Power series of Motorola modems uses flash memory for the DSP and the program rom so you can upgrade both using software. I understand that only the DSP code in the Megahertz modem is in flash rom so you can not upgrade the code later if a problem is found in the modem's code. My friend also said that the company that started V.FC wants royalty payments for V.FC and that AT&T will *never* pay royalty payments to another company for an essentially obsolete protocol. Thus the modems based on the AT&T chip set will never be V.FC compatible. There is a lively discussion of modems/modem technology in the newsgroup comp.dcom.modems for those that are interested. Don Ramsey. >>> >The 28.8 Megahertz is based upon the AT&T chip set. The 14.4 was >>> >Rockwell, thus compatibility is not a given. >>> I hear that the AT&T chip set does not support V.Fast (V.FC). >>> There are still some systems using V.FC. >> >>V.FC is a Rockwell protocol, V.32Turbo is AT&T. (Oil and water...) >>-- >>> .... stuff deleted ... >-- > Derek V. Chan > dvchan@netcom.com > chan4@fas.harvard.edu > chan4@scws1.harvard.edu > chan4@husc7.harvard.edu > chan4@i.want.out.of.harvard.edu > > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 25 10:09:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00255; Thu, 25 May 95 10:09:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22262; Thu, 25 May 1995 09:51:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 25 May 1995 09:51:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.ucsd.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22248; Thu, 25 May 1995 09:51:44 -0400 Received: from conic.UUCP by mail.ucsd.edu; id GAA12826 sendmail 8.6.12/UCSD-2.2-sun via UUCP Thu, 25 May 1995 06:51:41 -0700 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <199505251351.GAA12826@mail.ucsd.edu> Received: from engineering/tomf by conic.loral.com (PMail+UDG PegWaf v0.31 93.10.18) id 0806 for TP750@CS.UTK.EDU; Thu, 25 May 1995 06:34:11 PST 8 PDT From: TOMF@conic.loral.com To: chan4@husc.harvard.edu (Derek V. Chan), TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 06:34:08 +0000 Subject: Re: Re[2]: 28.8 PCMCIA modem recommendation Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Organization: Loral Conic/Terracom, San Diego, CA 92123 (619) 279-0411 > Well, CDW is selling the Hayes Optima 28.8 w/ X-Jack for $299. > > Anyone use it? I have been using the Optima 28.8 PCMCIA for a couple weeks now. It works just fine. It has flash BIOS and X-Jack. The Thinkpad PCMCIA drivers recognize the card with no problems. Additionally it powers down to a mode where it only uses 5 mA. The Megahertz 28.8 only powers down to 50 mA. Maybe those batteries will last longer! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 25 10:43:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09357; Thu, 25 May 95 10:43:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25061; Thu, 25 May 1995 10:29:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 25 May 1995 10:29:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA25051; Thu, 25 May 1995 10:29:35 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sEdk2-0004uIC; Thu, 25 May 95 09:18 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sEdk1-0002nrC; Thu, 25 May 95 09:18 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sEdjz-0002wvC; Thu, 25 May 95 09:18 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Re[2]: 28.8 PCMCIA modem recommendation To: dramsey@ro.com (Don Ramsey) Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 09:18:23 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <199505251243.HAA17407@sh1.ro.com> from "Don Ramsey" at May 25, 95 07:43:36 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > There is a lively > discussion of modems/modem technology in the newsgroup comp.dcom.modems for > those that are interested. Don Ramsey. The problem with comp.dcom.modems is that for the most part the people contributing to that group are mis-informed. Those in the know are either not interested in the usenet or are bound by one or more NDAs. For example have you ever asked yourself why there may be 50 modems reviewed by Computer Shopper which use the SAME chip set but have different performance? Basically the DAA for high speed QAM modems must be very linear. Some companies get cheap and play with the reference DAA design. But what is a reference design? All (most?) modem chip companies will supply you (under a NDA) a reference design for the complete modem and documentation. All you need to start your own modem company is to stick some plastic around their design, change a few things for product differentiation, modify the supplied documentation into your manual and come up with a slick marketing plan. In other words, for the most part, all these modems are basically the same! Brand loyalty is amusing to watch.... -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 25 11:17:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11883; Thu, 25 May 95 11:17:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26741; Thu, 25 May 1995 10:41:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 25 May 1995 10:41:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA26710; Thu, 25 May 1995 10:41:24 -0400 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA01146; Thu, 25 May 95 08:40:48 MDT Date: Thu, 25 May 95 08:40:48 MDT From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9505251440.AA01146@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: 28.8 PCMCIA modem recommendation > Well, CDW is selling the Hayes Optima 28.8 w/ X-Jack for $299. > Anyone use it? I will be shortly...just placed the order yesterday after reading through the latest issue of BYTE magazine. They did a review of PCMCIA (now called PC Card) modems, with the results as follows: 1) Practical Peripherals ProClass 288 2) Hayes Optima 288 3) Megahertz V.34 All three of these modems sport the x-jack style connecter, so the Megahertz is no longer the only ball game in town. Just to quickly summarize BYTE's results, the Hayes had the highest throughput, the Practical ProClass had the highest "interoperability" (a measure of the likelihood of making a V.34 connection), and the Megahertz had nothing special. As has been previously pointed out in this thread, the Megahertz modem only supports the V.34 standard, while the other two support both V.34 and V.FC. Both the Practical and the Hayes modems use Rockwell chipsets, while the Megahertz uses an AT&T chipset. My decision to go with the Hayes was based upon its respectable test scores along with its lower price, about $50 less than either 1 or 3 above. Also, for you OS/2er's out there, Hayes is the only manufacturer which claims to support OS/2. This may be important with respect to initialization strings for native OS/2 comm/fax software. Thanks to all who responded to my questions. I'll post my findings once I get up and running. Regards, -- Karl E. Yeanoplos Denver, CO kyeanopl@den.mmc.com / key@csn.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 25 12:26:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20242; Thu, 25 May 95 12:26:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07265; Thu, 25 May 1995 12:18:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 25 May 1995 12:18:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA07248; Thu, 25 May 1995 12:18:32 -0400 Received: by FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA09680; Thu, 25 May 95 12:17:53 EDT Date: Thu, 25 May 95 12:17:53 EDT From: fox@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU (David Fox) Message-Id: <9505251617.AA09680@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) Subject: Re: Re[2]: 28.8 PCMCIA modem recommendation In-Reply-To: References: <199505251243.HAA17407@sh1.ro.com> Scott Stratmoen writes: > For example have you ever asked yourself why there may be 50 modems > reviewed by Computer Shopper which use the SAME chip set but > have different performance? Basically the DAA for high speed QAM modems > must be very linear. Some companies get cheap and play with the reference > DAA design. But what is a reference design? > > [... modem clone marketing plan deleted ...] In other words, for the > most part, all these modems are basically the same! Brand loyalty > is amusing to watch.... Since this isn't a modem group I first need to ask what "the DAA for high speed QAM modems" means. Furthermore, if they are basically the same why do they have different tested performance? Am I missing the point? -david From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 25 14:19:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07777; Thu, 25 May 95 14:19:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00910; Thu, 25 May 1995 11:16:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 25 May 1995 11:16:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from pigseye.mmm.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA00900; Thu, 25 May 1995 11:16:16 -0400 From: Received: by pigseye.mmm.com (1.37.109.16/SMI-4.1) id AA223655328; Thu, 25 May 1995 10:22:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199505251522.AA223555326@pigseye.mmm.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is Organization: 3M To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 10:15:33 +0000 Subject: Thinkpad 755C and NT Reply-To: ramendenhall@mmm.com Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.0-WB1) I checked the FAQ and did not find an answer so I hope that this has not been hashed to death already... Has anyone loaded NT 3.51 on a Thinkpad 755C and found solutions to the following problems? 1. Found a NT compatible version of APM. 2. Found a video driver that supports 256 colors. 3. Found NT compatible sound drivers. Thanks for any help, Rod Mendenhall, Jr. RAMENDENHALL@MMM.COM 612-737-4746 These are my thoughts, comments, & opinions. Not 3M's... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 25 15:10:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09886; Thu, 25 May 95 15:10:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21274; Thu, 25 May 1995 14:47:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 25 May 1995 14:47:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from asimov.cnam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA21227; Thu, 25 May 1995 14:47:14 -0400 Received: from (eronald@localhost) by asimov.cnam.fr id UAA02456 (8.6.12/); Thu, 25 May 1995 20:44:05 +0200 From: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 20:44:05 +0200 Message-Id: <199505251844.UAA02456@asimov.cnam.fr> To: dramsey@ro.com, strat@dsd.northrop.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: 28.8 PCMCIA modem recommendation Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU All modems contain some line-matching and analogic circuitry, and some signal-processing DSP- based code. Good digital to analog and analog to digital converters cost money, as does the stuff you need to make the thing immune to outside noise, and power-supply noise. People who gladly pay for better audio speaker cables and connectors should understand that the non-digital bits and pieces matter and cost *a lot* to do properly. Edmund. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 25 16:10:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11894; Thu, 25 May 95 16:10:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27319; Thu, 25 May 1995 15:52:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 25 May 1995 15:52:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27308; Thu, 25 May 1995 15:52:46 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id PAA10779; Thu, 25 May 1995 15:56:28 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 15:56:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Scott Stratmoen Cc: ThinkPad 750 Mailing List Subject: Re: Re[2]: 28.8 PCMCIA modem recommendation In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 25 May 1995, Scott Stratmoen wrote: > In other words, for the most part, all > these modems are basically the same! Brand loyalty is amusing to watch.... Only when it's based on the belief that the performance will be signifigantly different. My modem criteria have always been, in decreasing order: Price, Warrantee period, and how much hassle they will give me in warr replacement (if I know). Megahertz tipped this a bit by adding "Really cool feature" into the list, but their 5 year replacement policy was a big plus. Plus, for anyone who somehow still doesn't have a PCMCIA modem, they are way cool about replacing the modem. They FedExed me a replacement when I was on vacation once I convinced them I had made all the adjustements possible. Had it in my hand in less than 14 hours and a full 30 days to mail the original one back to them. Didn't have to provide a receipt, whatever. (Of course, with the modem model less than a year old, it _had_ to be in warr....) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu May 25 18:44:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21045; Thu, 25 May 95 18:44:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09030; Thu, 25 May 1995 18:30:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 25 May 1995 18:30:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hillfoot.cent.gla.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA09015; Thu, 25 May 1995 18:30:43 -0400 Received: from hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk by hillfoot.cent.gla.ac.uk with SMTP-GLA (PP); Thu, 25 May 1995 18:43:29 +0100 Received: from music.gla.ac.uk (actually host flute.music.gla.ac.uk) by hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 25 May 1995 18:43:19 +0100 Received: from clave by music.gla.ac.uk (NX5.67c/NX3.0M) id AA06763; Thu, 25 May 95 18:43:17 +0100 From: Jonathan Marshall - EMU91 Message-Id: <9505251743.AA06763@music.gla.ac.uk> Received: by clave.music.gla.ac.uk (NX5.67c/NX3.0X) id AA04185; Thu, 25 May 95 18:43:16 +0100 Date: Thu, 25 May 95 18:43:16 +0100 Original-Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.87.1) Pp-Warning: Illegal Received field on preceding line Original-Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.87.1) Pp-Warning: Illegal Received field on preceding line To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Soundblaster Compatibility I'm new to this list so I don't know if this has been asked before or if it is a FAQ. I am having problems setting up the soundblaster drivers for my TP755C, they work fine with .wav and .mid files both in DOS and Windows,but not with any SB games in particular Doom2. Has anyone else managed to SB working with their Thinkpad if so what IRQ and port I/O settings should be used? Many thanks in advance Jonathan From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 26 02:41:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10810; Fri, 26 May 95 02:41:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05553; Fri, 26 May 1995 02:36:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 26 May 1995 02:36:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rs1.rz.uni-hohenheim.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05536; Fri, 26 May 1995 02:36:02 -0400 Received: by rs1.rz.uni-hohenheim.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA20665; Fri, 26 May 1995 08:37:16 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 08:37:15 +0200 (MESZ) From: Joerg Martin To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII signoff tp750 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 26 02:44:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10816; Fri, 26 May 95 02:44:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05354; Fri, 26 May 1995 02:31:26 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 26 May 1995 02:31:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rs1.rz.uni-hohenheim.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA05324; Fri, 26 May 1995 02:31:22 -0400 Received: by rs1.rz.uni-hohenheim.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA21147; Fri, 26 May 1995 08:32:21 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 08:32:20 +0200 (MESZ) From: Joerg Martin Subject: unsubscribe To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ----------------------------------------- Dr. Joerg Martin Universitaetsbibliothek Hohenheim (610) D - 70593 Stuttgart TEL: 0711 459-2100 FAX: 0711 459-3262 e-mail: martin@rs1.rz.uni-hohenheim.de ----------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 26 04:24:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22514; Fri, 26 May 95 04:24:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA14096; Fri, 26 May 1995 04:15:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 26 May 1995 04:15:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rs1.rz.uni-hohenheim.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA14067; Fri, 26 May 1995 04:15:32 -0400 Received: by rs1.rz.uni-hohenheim.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA15595; Fri, 26 May 1995 10:16:27 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 10:16:26 +0200 (MESZ) From: Joerg Martin To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII signoff tp750@cs.utk.edu unsubscribe martin@rs1.rz.uni-hohenheim.de From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 26 07:33:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15578; Fri, 26 May 95 07:33:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00236; Fri, 26 May 1995 07:15:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 26 May 1995 07:15:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00219; Fri, 26 May 1995 07:15:41 -0400 Received: from thingtwo (thingtwo.vmedia.com) by vmedia.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4 kells.vmedia.com) id AA25719; Fri, 26 May 1995 07:10:25 -0400 Message-Id: <9505261110.AA25719@vmedia.com> X-Sender: mverne@kells.vmedia.com (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 07:14:06 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: mverne@vmedia.com (Michael J. Verne at Ventana Communications) Subject: mailing list X-Mailer: What is the deal? I've sent two requests to tp750-request@cs.utk.edu in the last month & haven't heard back. I'm trying to get on the mailing list. Hope this message is more fruitful. mverne@mvedia.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 26 08:53:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25570; Fri, 26 May 95 08:53:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03774; Fri, 26 May 1995 08:33:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 26 May 1995 08:33:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hillfoot.cent.gla.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA03764; Fri, 26 May 1995 08:33:39 -0400 Received: from hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk by hillfoot.cent.gla.ac.uk with SMTP-GLA (PP); Fri, 26 May 1995 13:11:45 +0100 Received: from music.gla.ac.uk (actually host flute.music.gla.ac.uk) by hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 26 May 1995 13:11:33 +0100 Received: from synclavier by music.gla.ac.uk (NX5.67c/NX3.0M) id AA10310; Fri, 26 May 95 13:11:29 +0100 From: Jonathan Marshall - EMU91 Message-Id: <9505261211.AA10310@music.gla.ac.uk> Received: by synclavier.music.gla.ac.uk (NX5.67d/NX3.0X) id AA03281; Fri, 26 May 95 13:11:28 +0100 Date: Fri, 26 May 95 13:11:28 +0100 Original-Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.100.RR) Pp-Warning: Illegal Received field on preceding line Original-Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.100.RR) Pp-Warning: Illegal Received field on preceding line To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: NeXTSTEP on Thinkpads Does anyone have any experience with the above, if so what is the mimimum spec that NS will run 'adequetly' on. I have a ThinkPad 755C DX2/50 with 8MB RAM and 340MB Hard Disk, is this enough for even a mono setup. Any info greatly appreciated Jon From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 26 15:21:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19142; Fri, 26 May 95 15:21:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04845; Fri, 26 May 1995 14:59:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 26 May 1995 14:59:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from asimov.cnam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04828; Fri, 26 May 1995 14:59:28 -0400 Received: from (eronald@localhost) by asimov.cnam.fr id UAA16641 (8.6.12/); Fri, 26 May 1995 20:59:12 +0200 From: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 20:59:12 +0200 Message-Id: <199505261859.UAA16641@asimov.cnam.fr> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, jmarshal@music.gla.ac.uk Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on Thinkpads I have heard that NeXT does not recommend thinkpads for NS. Edmund. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 26 21:34:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18438; Fri, 26 May 95 21:34:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01430; Fri, 26 May 1995 21:26:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 26 May 1995 21:26:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail.cs.utexas.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA01420; Fri, 26 May 1995 21:26:01 -0400 Received: from darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (mschaef@darkwing.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.143.204]) by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA09957; Fri, 26 May 1995 20:25:55 -0500 Received: by darkwing.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.12/Client-v1.4) id UAA25993; Fri, 26 May 1995 20:25:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 20:25:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Schaeffer To: Jonathan Marshall - EMU91 Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on Thinkpads In-Reply-To: <9505261211.AA10310@music.gla.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 26 May 1995, Jonathan Marshall - EMU91 wrote: > Does anyone have any experience with the above, if so what is the > mimimum spec that NS will run 'adequetly' on. > > I have a ThinkPad 755C DX2/50 with 8MB RAM and 340MB Hard Disk, is this > enough for even a mono setup. NeXTStep is notorious for system requirements. I don't know anything about the specifics of running NS on a Thinkpad, but I have looked into running it on my desktop. 8MB is probably not enough RAM to do anything useful, but the system will boot in 2-bit mono. As for 340MB of disk space, that'll be enough for the base setup, but the developer's edition requires 400MB. The system would have to be installed off of CD-ROM, so you'd also have to have a compatible drive and adaptor. Seeing as how NS is so expensive, personally I'd want be able to run it quite well. An 8/340 config won't. If you want more help, I might be of limited assistance, but you should also try the comp.sys.next.{hardware|advocacy|misc} newsgroup hierarchy. Good luck, and if you do try, let me know how it goes. -Mike From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 26 23:12:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00498; Fri, 26 May 95 23:12:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06900; Fri, 26 May 1995 23:06:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 26 May 1995 23:06:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA06888; Fri, 26 May 1995 23:05:59 -0400 Received: from alcor.usc.edu (whittle@alcor.usc.edu [128.125.253.169]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id UAA15879; Fri, 26 May 1995 20:05:57 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by alcor.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id UAA13616; Fri, 26 May 1995 20:05:56 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199505270305.UAA13616@alcor.usc.edu> Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on Thinkpads To: mschaef@cs.utexas.edu (Mike Schaeffer) Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 20:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Mike Schaeffer" at May 26, 95 08:25:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > NeXTStep is notorious for system requirements. I don't know > anything about the specifics of running NS on a Thinkpad, but I have > looked into running it on my desktop. > 8MB is probably not enough RAM to do anything useful, but the > system will boot in 2-bit mono. As for 340MB of disk space, that'll be To me, the question is: what software is there available for running on the NeXTstep OS? If an operating system is to be judged on merits and technical prowess alone, then perhaps NeXTstep or OS/2 would be king of all PC's-- but without significant native software, what good is the OS (unless you have highly specialized requirements)? Yet another reason I find a Mac preferable to OS/2--a Mac has apps written to run on it (and hey, it can even emulate Windows fairly well). Sure, I wish it could multitask 1/4 as well as OS/2 can, but at least I don't have to run Windows apps to make my Mac useful. If I were to be mean, I'd say the Lotus SmartSuite is about the only reason OS/2 has for living. ;) I presume NeXTstep has the same problem? What software is available for it? Perhaps it is useful for persons with highly specialized needs. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 26 23:40:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11434; Fri, 26 May 95 23:40:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08536; Fri, 26 May 1995 23:34:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 26 May 1995 23:34:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08526; Fri, 26 May 1995 23:34:56 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id XAA17926; Fri, 26 May 1995 23:39:00 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 23:38:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Thinkpad List Subject: Replacement HD Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am on the horns of a dilemma.... I've decided that I absolutely can't live with this 170M anymore. So time to replace this HD. I'm gonna buy a 2.5 and put it in the plastic case. I guess I'll pawn my 2.5 off on someone somewhere... So in the course of looking around, I found a Toshiba 810M for $615! Except, it's 19mm high. Oops. The IBM in the case is 17mm and fills the case. I can get the Toshiba 540M for $540 and it's just 12mm high, but paying $1 a M chafes me, and I think I would outgrow it eventually. I'd like this drive to last me the life of the 'Pad... Toshiba apparently has two models of 2.5 drives, the "V" series (the MK1926FCV is the 815M version) are 12.7mm high, the others (the MK2628FC is the 810 Worldwide Technologies has) are 19mm. Anyone done this little surgery with a slightly larger drive? The IBM 810M drive appears to be about $800, so it's a respectable price savings. I haven't found a price on the Toshiba V series yet.... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri May 26 23:46:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11857; Fri, 26 May 95 23:46:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08982; Fri, 26 May 1995 23:41:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 26 May 1995 23:41:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA08971; Fri, 26 May 1995 23:41:19 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA17315; Fri, 26 May 95 23:42:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 May 95 23:42:03 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505270342.AA17315@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: mschaef@cs.utexas.edu, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on Thinkpads Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU please Randy, the guy was asking how to run Nextstep on a Thinkpad, a perfectly reasonable technical question, which we can help him with if we know how. It is inappropriate to use the Thinkpad mailing list for OS advocacy posts. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 27 09:34:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27601; Sat, 27 May 95 09:34:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18802; Sat, 27 May 1995 09:21:07 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 27 May 1995 09:21:05 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from rs1.rz.uni-hohenheim.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA18788; Sat, 27 May 1995 09:20:57 -0400 Received: by rs1.rz.uni-hohenheim.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA15192; Sat, 27 May 1995 15:22:07 +0200 Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 15:22:07 +0200 (MESZ) From: Joerg Martin Subject: Re: your mail To: tp750-request@CS.UTK.EDU Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199505261609.MAA26254@wilma.cs.utk.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just checked my saved messages; onThue 2 of May at 10.47 -0400 I was put on the list martin@rs1.rz.uni-hohenheim.de has been added to the tp750 mailing list. So there is no point why I should not get off from this mass. ----------------------------------------- Dr. Joerg Martin Universitaetsbibliothek Hohenheim (610) D - 70593 Stuttgart TEL: 0711 459-2100 FAX: 0711 459-3262 e-mail: martin@rs1.rz.uni-hohenheim.de ----------------------------------------- On Fri, 26 May 1995 tp750-request@cs.utk.edu wrote: > > unsubscribe > > martin@rs1.rz.uni-hohenheim.de > > > I can't find you on the list: > > > % delete-list tp750 martin@rs1.rz.uni-hohenheim.de > martin@rs1.rz.uni-hohenheim.de not found in /usr/local/mail/Lists/tp750.mail-list > possible matches: > bruewer@rs1.rz.uni-hohenheim.de > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 27 14:26:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12379; Sat, 27 May 95 14:26:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04183; Sat, 27 May 1995 14:15:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 27 May 1995 14:15:06 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA04070; Sat, 27 May 1995 14:14:54 -0400 Received: from p41.slip.net (sfsp79.slip.net [204.160.88.175]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA22255 for ; Sat, 27 May 1995 11:14:38 -0700 Message-Id: <199505271814.LAA22255@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 11:14:33 -0700 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Next on a 750 I recall about a year ago seeing a note from a guy selling his 750c, with next installed (he claimed it ran fine). I suggest exploring the next usenet groups, there are several, I'm sure you can dig up someone else who has it running. ____________________________________________________________________ http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 27 16:51:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24728; Sat, 27 May 95 16:51:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11993; Sat, 27 May 1995 16:38:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 27 May 1995 16:38:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11982; Sat, 27 May 1995 16:38:22 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA16720; Sat, 27 May 95 16:39:08 -0400 Date: Sat, 27 May 95 16:39:08 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505272039.AA16720@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 32 meg DIMS no one has answered my request about 32 meg DIMS, so let me ask a slightly different question: does anyone else remember as I do that there was some discussion of the existence of these beasts on this mailing list some time ago? I would really like to track these down if they exist! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat May 27 18:01:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00391; Sat, 27 May 95 18:01:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15975; Sat, 27 May 1995 17:54:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 27 May 1995 17:54:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA15964; Sat, 27 May 1995 17:54:51 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id OAA13676; Sat, 27 May 1995 14:54:50 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id OAA14731; Sat, 27 May 1995 14:54:48 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199505272154.OAA14731@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP on Thinkpads To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 14:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9505270342.AA17315@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> from "Robert Dewar" at May 26, 95 11:42:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > please Randy, the guy was asking how to run Nextstep on a Thinkpad, > a perfectly reasonable technical question, which we can help him with > if we know how. It is inappropriate to use the Thinkpad mailing list > for OS advocacy posts. Criticism, yes--but I'd hardly call it "advocacy". Anyone who knows me knows I heartly admire the likes of OS/2 or or NeXT (especially those now-defunct machines with display PostScript!) on their technical merits alone! My sincerest apologies to the list. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 28 16:08:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16183; Sun, 28 May 95 16:08:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01174; Sun, 28 May 1995 15:53:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 28 May 1995 15:53:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from micros.micros.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA01163; Sun, 28 May 1995 15:53:09 -0400 Received: from smtplink.micros.com by micros.micros.com id aa24918; 28 May 95 15:53 EDT Received: from cc:Mail by smtplink.micros.com id AA801701649; Sun, 28 May 95 15:52:15 EST Date: Sun, 28 May 95 15:52:15 EST From: "Gerber, Josh" Message-Id: <9504288017.AA801701649@smtplink.micros.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Hello... Just stopped by to introduce myself... I just took delivery of a factory refurbished 755Cs DX4-75 that I got for an unbelievable price (the annoying part is, they sent me a machine with a DX2-50 board in it, with -75 serial numbers...trying to pull a fast one? Oh well, the replacement is on the way). The machine is absolutely fantastic, running Win95 on 12mb almost flawlessly. (I'm still working on the direct cable connections.) I'll go ahead and throw a question into the hopper: Does IBM or a third party make hard drives that will swap into the floppy drive space? Or does anyone have experience with Iomega ZIP drives with the 755? Thanks for any help. -josh From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 28 16:22:42 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18373; Sun, 28 May 95 16:22:42 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02353; Sun, 28 May 1995 16:11:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 28 May 1995 16:11:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02334; Sun, 28 May 1995 16:11:33 -0400 Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 16:06:23 -29900 From: retsla Subject: Re: Hello... To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9504288017.AA801701649@smtplink.micros.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Does IBM or a third party make hard drives that will swap into the > floppy drive space? Or does anyone have experience with Iomega ZIP > drives with the 755? Ooh...a Zip drive in place of the floppy would be way way way cool :) So would another hard drive. http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 28 16:27:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18386; Sun, 28 May 95 16:27:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02794; Sun, 28 May 1995 16:18:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 28 May 1995 16:18:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA02773; Sun, 28 May 1995 16:18:00 -0400 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA03170; Sun, 28 May 1995 15:17:58 -0500 Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 15:17:57 -0500 (CDT) From: John Kim Subject: SVGA under Win-OS/2 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ok, I've been running without a monitor up til now and have been happily ignoring and deleting everything that came across this list on SVGA under Warp and Win-OS/2. Wouldn't you know it, right after I deleted the latest batch, I find out I'm doing a presentation next week on a 1024x768 LCD projector. I'll be using Lotus Freelance for Windows so I need to get external SVGA support under Win-OS/2 working. Here's the situation til now: I installed Warp with Win-OS/2 in VGA mode. Tested Win-OS/2 in VGA mode -- worked OK. Connected an external monitor and installed WD90C24 drivers. Changed resolution to 1024x768x256. OS/2 came up in 1024x768x256, but double-clicking the Win-OS/2 full screen icon results in a "Cannot start -- make sure the path is correct..." error. I was able to start Win-OS/2 by typing "win" from a DOS full screen prompt, but it came up 640x480x???. I switched back to 640x480x256 and was still unable to start Win-OS/2. I suspect if I went back to VGA everything would work OK, but that defeats the purpose of all these contortions I'm going through. Has anyone got a setup similar to this? I'm on a TP750 mono. Ideally I'd like 1024x768 in both OS/2 and Win-OS/2 when hooked up to an external monitor, with the TP autosensing and dropping back to 640x480x256 for both when there's no monitor attached. I'll settle for 1024x768x256 in *any* way under Win-OS/2. Help! -- John H. Kim jokim@mit.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 28 21:04:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA01536; Sun, 28 May 95 21:04:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17190; Sun, 28 May 1995 20:47:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 28 May 1995 20:47:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cssu46.cs.ust.hk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17179; Sun, 28 May 1995 20:47:44 -0400 Received: from cssu100.cs.ust.hk (ejd@cssu100.cs.ust.hk [143.89.40.100]) by cssu46.cs.ust.hk (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA01946 for ; Mon, 29 May 1995 08:46:18 +0800 Received: (from ejd@localhost) by cssu100.cs.ust.hk (8.6.10/8.6.9) id IAA07463 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 29 May 1995 08:46:06 +0800 From: "Dr. E. Joseph Derrick" Message-Id: <199505290046.IAA07463@cssu100.cs.ust.hk> Subject: Zip Iomega Drives To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 08:46:05 +0800 (HKT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone, As a member of this list, I recall significant discussion of the Zip drive from IoMega. I saved some of the discussion but none have mentioned IoMega address and phone number. I am particularly interested in getting both, especially the phone number, since I live in Hong Kong. I tried a look in "Computer Shopper" but they are only listed under other discount warehouses with no details. The Zip Drives are not even mentioned there, at lease I could not find them. Thanks for the help. Regards, Joe Derrick **************************************************************************** JOE DERRICK /EMAIL: ejd@cs.ust.hk /PH: (852) 2358-7023 /FAX: (852) 2358-1477 Dept of Computer Science, Hong Kong Univ of Science and Technology,HONG KONG From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun May 28 23:06:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26599; Sun, 28 May 95 23:06:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25037; Sun, 28 May 1995 22:56:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 28 May 1995 22:56:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from merle.acns.nwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA25027; Sun, 28 May 1995 22:56:44 -0400 Received: by merle.acns.nwu.edu (1.37.109.16/20.3) id AA030556201; Sun, 28 May 1995 21:56:41 -0500 Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 21:56:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Conrad Albrecht-Buehler Subject: Linux Help To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199505290046.IAA07463@cssu100.cs.ust.hk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm installing Linux on my 355Cs. It has the 1.44 fd, and while installing slackware 2.2.0(after setting hd params) it asks me to insert the ramdisk floppy. whether or not I do, it tells me that it detected a media change in device 2/28. then it promts me for the rootdisk, tells me about device 2/28 again and then gives me a kernel panic error :VMS:unable to mount fs on 02e1. Any ideas? please help if you can. thanks for your time. see ya. --Conrad Conrad Albrecht-Buehler Northwestern University conrada-b@nwu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 29 00:46:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13392; Mon, 29 May 95 00:46:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01143; Mon, 29 May 1995 00:35:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 29 May 1995 00:35:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA01121; Mon, 29 May 1995 00:35:27 -0400 Received: from hp715.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA29580; Sun, 28 May 1995 22:32:11 -0600 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by hp715.cuug.ab.ca (1.37.109.16//ident-1.0) id AA143772432; Sun, 28 May 1995 22:40:32 -0600 Message-Id: <199505290440.AA143772432@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: Linux Help To: sting@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Conrad Albrecht-Buehler) Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 22:40:32 -0600 (MDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: from "Conrad Albrecht-Buehler" at May 28, 95 09:56:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm installing Linux on my 355Cs. It has the 1.44 fd, and while > installing slackware 2.2.0(after setting hd params) it asks me to insert > the ramdisk floppy. whether or not I do, it tells me that it detected a > media change in device 2/28. then it promts me for the rootdisk, tells me > about device 2/28 again and then gives me a kernel panic error :VMS:unable > to mount fs on 02e1. Any ideas? please help if you can. thanks for your > time. > > see ya. --Conrad > > Conrad Albrecht-Buehler Northwestern University conrada-b@nwu.edu The Thinkpad you have may have a floppy drive with reversed disk change sense. You can try using "floppy=thinkpad" on the lilo boot prompt to get around this problem. The "floppy=thinkpad" is only supported in later kernels (above 1.1.70 ish?) so it may not work. Newer Thinkpads don't seem to have this problem anymore. If the Slackware you are booting doesn't work then either upgrade to a newer slackware or there are some disks you can get with a kernel compiled with the disk change sense reversed. Hope this helps. Let me know how it goes! +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 29 13:43:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13370; Mon, 29 May 95 13:43:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24364; Mon, 29 May 1995 13:25:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 29 May 1995 13:25:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA24347; Mon, 29 May 1995 13:25:52 -0400 From: Received: by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA133790; Mon, 29 May 1995 17:25:45 GMT Received: from slip168-135.sy.au.ibm.net(129.37.168.135) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smavm0DFW; Mon May 29 17:24:55 1995 Received: by localhost (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/2.12um) id AA0012; Tue, 30 May 95 01:22:12 -0700 Message-Id: <9505300822.AA0012@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 30 May 95 01:20:21 +0000 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Reply-To: waishan@ibm.net Subject: Imoega zip Drive X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <11_68_1_801811221> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At 08:46 5/29/95 +0800, Dr. E. Joseph Derrick wrote: >Hi everyone, > >As a member of this list, I recall significant discussion of the Zip >drive from IoMega. I saved some of the discussion but none have mentioned >IoMega address and phone number. I am particularly interested in getting >both, especially the phone number, since I live in Hong Kong. I tried a >look in "Computer Shopper" but they are only listed under other discount >warehouses with no details. The Zip Drives are not even >mentioned there, at lease I could not find them. Thanks for the help. > >Regards, >Joe Derrick Hey, I am from HK too, even though I study in the States. Anyway, Iomega does not sell the Zip drive directly. I got mine right before I headed back to HK for vacation. Anyway, there WAS quite a wait (backorder) on the Zip Drive and Disks. I got mine from PC Connection CDW sells them too. Both are US Mail order companies. As far as I know, they do ship internationally, so you might want to check that out. I don't know their non 800 number, but CDW has an email address: info@cdw.com You could probably ask them for a non-800 number. BTW, the ZIP drive works great. But one thing! They came with a 110volt AC Adapter. They sell a Universal one. I ordered mine, but never received it. I guess I left since. Anyway, good luck in finding the numbers. //---------------------------\\ \\ WAI-SHAN LAM // //---------------------------\\ \\ waishan@ibm.net // // Wai_Shan_Lam@Brown.edu \\ \\ 72124.2644@CompuServe.Com // //---------------------------\\ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 29 15:22:36 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18034; Mon, 29 May 95 15:22:36 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29309; Mon, 29 May 1995 15:04:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 29 May 1995 15:04:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from asimov.cnam.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA29297; Mon, 29 May 1995 15:03:58 -0400 Received: from (eronald@localhost) by asimov.cnam.fr id VAA15977 (8.6.12/); Mon, 29 May 1995 21:03:44 +0200 From: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 21:03:44 +0200 Message-Id: <199505291903.VAA15977@asimov.cnam.fr> To: sting@merle.acns.nwu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Linux Help tell lilo, floppy=thinkpad and locate the thinkpad linux FAQ. Edmund. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 29 18:22:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12759; Mon, 29 May 95 18:22:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07528; Mon, 29 May 1995 18:06:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 29 May 1995 18:06:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07518; Mon, 29 May 1995 18:06:51 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sGCy8-0004tfC; Mon, 29 May 95 17:07 CDT Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sGCy7-0002nbC; Mon, 29 May 95 17:07 CDT Received: by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sGCy6-000BgjC; Mon, 29 May 95 17:07 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Modems: Was 28.8 PCMCIA modem recommendation To: fox@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU (David Fox) Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 17:07:26 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9505251617.AA09680@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU> from "David Fox" at May 25, 95 12:17:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Since this isn't a modem group I first need to ask what "the DAA for > high speed QAM modems" means. Furthermore, if they are basically the > same why do they have different tested performance? Am I missing the > point? Sorry. Good questions. DAA stands for "Data Access Arrangement" It's not worth going into the politics of why they exist or info how they are designed. Basically the DAA is the circuitry that couples the modem to the phone line, protects the line / modem from each other and detects ringing (sometimes also deals with caller ID). QAM is Quadrature Amplitude Modulation. Typically QAM is used for modems 2400 baud and above (except for Telebit which used multi-carrier AM modulation). (Its that noise you hear when modems are talking). For what its worth, with QAM amplitude and phase reproduction is important. Many modems use the same chip set (i.e. from AT&T or Rockwell). The only difference is the manufacture of the modem's implementation of the DAA. If the DAA does distorts the signal (i.e. adds amplitude or phase distortion) errors are introduced. This translates into a lower overall throughput (i.e. lower performance). -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 29 18:25:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12795; Mon, 29 May 95 18:25:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07751; Mon, 29 May 1995 18:11:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 29 May 1995 18:11:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA07737; Mon, 29 May 1995 18:11:00 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sGD1f-0004tfC; Mon, 29 May 95 17:11 CDT Received: from atfs0.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sGD1e-0002nbC; Mon, 29 May 95 17:11 CDT Received: by atfs0.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sGD1d-000BgjC; Mon, 29 May 95 17:11 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Re[2]: 28.8 PCMCIA modem recommendation To: eronald@cnam.fr (Edmund Ronald) Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 17:11:04 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <199505251844.UAA02456@asimov.cnam.fr> from "Edmund Ronald" at May 25, 95 08:44:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > All modems contain some line-matching and analogic circuitry, and > some signal-processing DSP- based code. Good digital to analog and > analog to digital converters cost money, as does the stuff you need to > make the thing immune to outside noise, and power-supply noise. > People who gladly pay for better audio speaker cables and connectors > should understand that the non-digital bits and pieces matter > and cost *a lot* to do properly. It's not clear that there is "a lot" of cost difference between a great modem and a poor modem (given the same basic modem chip set). What does happen is that when you build one million modems, plus, per year every cent adds up. That is when cost becomes a driver. "Performance is expected, but cost is still king." Good words, but many times the expected part is ignored. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 29 20:31:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28056; Mon, 29 May 95 20:31:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12661; Mon, 29 May 1995 20:17:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 29 May 1995 20:17:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12651; Mon, 29 May 1995 20:17:15 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id UAA00986; Mon, 29 May 1995 20:21:24 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 20:21:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Thinkpad List Cc: sting@merle.acns.nwu.edu Subject: Re: Linux Help In-Reply-To: <199505291903.VAA15977@asimov.cnam.fr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 29 May 1995, Edmund Ronald wrote: > tell lilo, floppy=thinkpad > and locate the thinkpad linux FAQ. check out the link off of http://shadow.net/~dwhite/thinkpad.html. (Look for "Hey, SCREW DOS and Windows!" Never said I was subtle...) ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "I timed it. It took 22 seconds for him to hate you." - Chicago Hope ======================================================================== From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 29 20:32:50 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28065; Mon, 29 May 95 20:32:50 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12694; Mon, 29 May 1995 20:18:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 29 May 1995 20:18:32 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA12684; Mon, 29 May 1995 20:18:31 -0400 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA06164; Mon, 29 May 1995 19:18:29 -0500 Message-Id: <9505300018.AA06164@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Date: Mon, 29 May 95 20:19:58 EDT From: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (John H. Kim) Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu (John H. Kim) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.0 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp I know I shouldn't expect a response during a holidy, but I'm getting desperate. In a nutshell, someone sent a message to this list telling how to set the resolution of a Windows session under OS/2. It involved changes in the system.ini and win.ini files and possibly others. All I need is a copy of that message. Thanks! _______________________________________________________________________ |\ ______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like | | | jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes." | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon May 29 23:53:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00213; Mon, 29 May 95 23:53:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23771; Mon, 29 May 1995 23:30:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 29 May 1995 23:30:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA23761; Mon, 29 May 1995 23:30:51 -0400 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA18966; Mon, 29 May 1995 22:30:49 -0500 Message-Id: <9505300330.AA18966@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Date: Mon, 29 May 95 23:32:18 EDT From: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (John H. Kim) Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu (John H. Kim) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.0 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: Re: SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp Thanks to everyone who responded. Martin Smith mailed me his system.ini and I was able to figure out the problem. Apparently the gamma copy of Warp with Win-OS/2 I have failed to add an entry for the WD90C24 driver. The entries for the WD90C31 were there so I guess this is (was?) a bug in the installation program. I manually copied Martin's entry (4 lines) and it worked. While I'm at it, has anybody gotten 1024x768 non-interlaced on an external monitor under Warp? I've tried messing with the TP video stuff and the frate.dat file with the tpadvesa program but it doesn't seem to change anything except DOS mode stuff. _______________________________________________________________________ |\ ______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like | | | jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes." | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 30 02:35:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28753; Tue, 30 May 95 02:35:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02434; Tue, 30 May 1995 02:16:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 30 May 1995 02:16:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA02424; Tue, 30 May 1995 02:16:35 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 02:10:48 -29900 From: retsla Subject: PCMCIA SCSI controllers? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9505300330.AA18966@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anybody have experience with PCMCIA SCSI controllers? I'm looking at the Adaptec 1460. I need to use it with a Zip drive and either an HP IIcx or HP IIIc scanner ...(neither of which I own yet). Any opinions? How about QLogic? Oh yea...and any experience with PCMCIA SCSI controllers and Linux? and which one(s)? Thanks! http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 30 04:33:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19103; Tue, 30 May 95 04:33:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA08107; Tue, 30 May 1995 04:13:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 30 May 1995 04:13:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA08097; Tue, 30 May 1995 04:13:47 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 04:08:04 -29900 From: retsla Subject: Linux bootdisk for 755ce To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I'm looking for a Linux bootdisk for a 755ce that has PCMCIA support. The bootdisk dated Mon May 29 19:48:00 1995 from David Hind (author of the PCMCIA package) gives me a kernel panic: Process swapper (pid: 0, process nr: 0, stackpage=001a100c) Stack: # # # 3 lines of numbers I'm won't type in unless you need them :) # # # Call Trace: 0018b70d 0018c488 0018c6e2 00188b26 0010f29d Code: 66 ff 5e 6f 5e 1f cb 57 85 e4 85 6f 85 7c 85 e4 85 9b 85 e4 kfree of non-kmalloced memory: 001a3004, next= 00000000, order=0 task[0] (swapper) killed: unable to recover Kernel panic: Trying to free up swapper memory space In swapper task - not syncing If someone can point me in the right direction or perhaps whip up a boot disk with their kernel, I'd _really_ appreciate it! Basically, I need to use my 3com EtherlinkIII....installing it over NFS would be really handy also. Thanks! http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 30 08:45:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA02047; Tue, 30 May 95 08:45:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA23085; Tue, 30 May 1995 08:22:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 30 May 1995 08:22:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA23075; Tue, 30 May 1995 08:22:32 -0400 From: Received: by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA31365; Tue, 30 May 1995 12:22:30 GMT Received: from slip145-15.ut.nl.ibm.net(129.37.145.15) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaYmYDFW; Tue May 30 12:21:51 1995 Received: by slip145-15.ut.nl.ibm.net (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/2.12um) id AA0584; Tue, 30 May 95 14:21:12 -0700 Message-Id: <9505302121.AA0584@slip145-15.ut.nl.ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 30 May 95 14:07:42 -0100 To: "Thinkpad Mailing List " Subject: Video Features on TP755CD X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <578_76_1_801857263> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello to anyone... I'm trying to use the Video functions on my TP755CD. I've installed the enhanced video features, setted Windows to operate with VIDEO-IN (video capture), installed my Video camera on the right connector, and launched the DIGITAL VIDEO PRODUCER from the Program Manager. When I start the capture, the little screen inside the DVP is black, and so remain till I stop the capture. All seems right, but from my Video Camera, or the VCR, I don't receive the right signal. As for the poor help on-line I do something wrong? Can anyone let me know if I miss something...? Thanks on advance. Cheers! Alberto Enna 2:335/12.0@fidonet.org 81:439/4.0@os2net.ftn aenna@ibm.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 30 08:48:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07181; Tue, 30 May 95 08:48:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA23136; Tue, 30 May 1995 08:24:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 30 May 1995 08:24:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA23125; Tue, 30 May 1995 08:24:13 -0400 From: Received: by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA156324; Tue, 30 May 1995 12:24:11 GMT Received: from slip145-15.ut.nl.ibm.net(129.37.145.15) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaA5YC92; Tue May 30 12:23:39 1995 Received: by slip145-15.ut.nl.ibm.net (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/2.12um) id AA0585; Tue, 30 May 95 14:22:56 -0700 Message-Id: <9505302122.AA0585@slip145-15.ut.nl.ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 30 May 95 14:20:57 -0100 To: "Thinkpad Mailing List " Subject: DOCK I FDD X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Id: <578_76_1_801858057> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anybody tell my what's the right P.N. of the external FDD kit to add on Dock I to have the floppy disk added togheter with the CD-ROM ? Cheers! Alberto Enna 2:335/12.0@fidonet.org 81:439/4.0@os2net.ftn aenna@ibm.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 30 09:13:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09649; Tue, 30 May 95 09:13:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25355; Tue, 30 May 1995 08:57:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 30 May 1995 08:57:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA25343; Tue, 30 May 1995 08:57:29 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA24748; Tue, 30 May 95 08:58:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 May 95 08:58:20 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505301258.AA24748@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, aenna@ibm.net Subject: Re: DOCK I FDD this may not be releant to the question, since there may be more general reasons for hjaving CD OM and floppy access at the same time, but one point is that you CAN install WARP from CDROM without buying this gizmo, despite clear statements to the contrary in some IBM documentation. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 30 10:51:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25214; Tue, 30 May 95 10:51:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02610; Tue, 30 May 1995 10:34:09 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 30 May 1995 10:34:08 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA02600; Tue, 30 May 1995 10:34:07 -0400 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA19894 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Tue, 30 May 1995 10:34:04 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA14117; Tue, 30 May 1995 10:34:34 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 10:34:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: IBM TP 750/750c batteries: $60 QTY AVAILABLE (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Saw this on comp.sys.laptops. Sound like a good price except for the fact that they're "like new" ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 27 May 1995 23:05:30 -0400 From: JayKim Newgroups: comp.sys.laptops Subject: IBM TP 750/750c batteries: $60 QTY AVAILABLE - Please expand this window for best reading of this ad by clicking in the box to the top right. A little unusual for us, as Mac resellers, to be selling into the Intel market, but we just brought into inventory some IBM brand ThinkPad batteries for the ThinkPad 750 and 750c. These are NiMH style, which fortunately avoids the memory affect so often found in cheaper Nickel-Cadmium style. FRU p/n is 66G2820, and p/n otherwise is 66G2846. Please do not ask me if they will work in other ThinkPads - I have no way of knowing but assume not. You may try this for more info: IBM - 800-765-4747 Phone 24 hrs; 7days; Online: AOL, Prodigy Condition of these is like-new in opened IBM box. 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Hours: 8:30AM to 5:00 PM M-F CST (903) 509-Appl(2775) - voice (903) 509 - 2777 - fax From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 30 13:35:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24907; Tue, 30 May 95 13:35:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16205; Tue, 30 May 1995 13:19:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 30 May 1995 13:19:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA16194; Tue, 30 May 1995 13:19:26 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA1056; Tue, 30 May 95 13:13:49 -0400 Message-Id: <9505301713.AA1056@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 949395C3067D01C8852561CC00534A69; Tue, 30 May 95 13:13:48 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 30 May 95 13:19:39 Subject: -No Subject- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Please introduce yourself! Tell us what kind of machine you have, how it's configured (how much memory/disk, what accessories, etc.), and what operating system(s) you are using. Thanks, Robert, for getting me in here. Sorry for geeking out on you. I'm a systems analyst in a company of about 100 PCs & Macs, including one 755CD, one 755C, one 360 and an ever-increasing number of 360C's (about 12 right now): typically 20 x 340, all on WFW 3.11, all with USR Sportster 28.8 PCMCIA modems (except the 755CD, of course) and Xircom PCMCIA Ethernet Cards, using the Netware 4.0 client vlms on _802.3 and _II frame types (haven't yet flown solo on the _II). Several are on docking bars for external monitor, keyboard, etc. Most are running WIN32s and WinTCP (some are on Chameleon), in a dual boot configuration for the LAN & remote access to Lotus Notes. Possibly going to QEMM v7.5, if it doesn't conflict with the video & the rapid resume-- I'm testing it this week. Yeah, it keeps me busy. We are buying IBMs because they're the easiest to open up & troubleshoot/upgrade (we also have 5 other brands in the house, which we no longer buy) and nobody's Trackpoint knock-offs have come close to the original-- yet. My current dilemma is getting the 755CD to accept DRAM cards. Even IBM's crap out after a couple of weeks. Any tips would be much appreciated. ___ @( oo )@ ( .. ) Michael J. Verne mverne@vmedia.com "Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man that he didn't already have." From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 30 13:57:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28594; Tue, 30 May 95 13:57:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17683; Tue, 30 May 1995 13:36:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 30 May 1995 13:36:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA17673; Tue, 30 May 1995 13:36:49 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sGVEQ-0004uZC; Tue, 30 May 95 12:37 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sGVEP-0002nbC; Tue, 30 May 95 12:37 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sGVEO-0002wvC; Tue, 30 May 95 12:37 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp To: jokim@mit.edu Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 12:37:27 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9505300330.AA18966@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> from "John H. Kim" at May 29, 95 11:32:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Thanks to everyone who responded. Martin Smith mailed me his > system.ini and I was able to figure out the problem. Apparently > the gamma copy of Warp with Win-OS/2 I have failed to add an > entry for the WD90C24 driver. The entries for the WD90C31 were > there so I guess this is (was?) a bug in the installation program. > I manually copied Martin's entry (4 lines) and it worked. I have the gamma full pack but never installed it for this very reason. All I needed was more strange bugs. Thus I have left WARP for windows installed. I wish that I could find out what differences there are between the gamma and GA releases. > While I'm at it, has anybody gotten 1024x768 non-interlaced on > an external monitor under Warp? I've tried messing with the > TP video stuff and the frate.dat file with the tpadvesa program > but it doesn't seem to change anything except DOS mode stuff. I called IBM on this (mobiles group). They said that non-interlace for the thinkpad at 1024x768 is a known bug. While they assured me that a update will be released soon, I couldn't get a date out of them. Someone said that fixpack number six has been released. This could be as connect shipped. I plan to go looking for it today.... -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 30 14:19:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00289; Tue, 30 May 95 14:19:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19678; Tue, 30 May 1995 14:00:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 30 May 1995 14:00:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nbslib.isc-br.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA19615; Tue, 30 May 1995 14:00:42 -0400 Received: from cbinfrabp by nbslib.isc-br.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0sGVaU-00028yC; Tue, 30 May 95 11:00 PDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 30 May 95 11:00 PDT X-Sender: brianp@nbslib.isc-br.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: brianp@isc-br.isc-br.com (Brian Perry) Subject: Inroduction and Request for NT3.5 help X-Mailer: >Please introduce yourself! Tell us what >kind of machine you have, >how it's configured (how much memory/disk, >what accessories, etc.), >and what operating system(s) you are using. Hi, Brian Perry , Senior Software Engineer, Olivetti North America. I am the NT systems support engineer for a infrastructure group supporting open systems banking applications. I am experimenting with tools running on the ThinkPad for customer support. I have an IBM 360C with 20 Meg RAM, 510 Meg HD, and IBM audio system. The OS is Windows NT 3.5.1 ( 944 Build ), dual boot with WFW 311. Expect to upgrade soon to Windows 95. I use a Parallel Pocket Ethernet Adapter for Network ( WFW only ) connectivity and Microcom VFAST external modem for remote ( use RAS under NT and WFW ). Evaluating PCMCIA network and modem cards for use under both operating systems. Does anyone have any info on display drivers that run under NT for 640X480 256 colors? I know that the IBM360C supports that mode under Windows but I can not find drivers for the same under NT. Several of the software packages do not diplay correctly with 16 colors. I have installed the IBM Audio accessory in the IBM360C and it works great under Windows. I would like to have it work for Windows NT. Are there any drivers available for the IBM Audio for Windows NT ? Thanks for your help.. :-} Brian Perry, brianp@mail.spk.olivetti.com Olivetti North America brianp@nbslib.isc-br.com Spokane, Washington, USA voice: (509) 927-5146 0800-1700 PST8PDT M-F Pager 1-800-946 4646 pin 1122397 FAX: (509) 927-5613 24 hrs. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 30 14:38:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09382; Tue, 30 May 95 14:38:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20701; Tue, 30 May 1995 14:12:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 30 May 1995 14:12:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA20690; Tue, 30 May 1995 14:12:30 -0400 From: Received: from PC1-Message_Server by BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU with WordPerfect_Office; Tue, 30 May 1995 14:11:46 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: WordPerfect Office 4.0 Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 14:09:08 -0400 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Intel and Newer Portable Chips Reported in "INFO World " 5.29.95 Page 1. INTEL ... this week will announce its new 90-MHz Pentium processor for potables. ... Intel will dump plans to introduce a 100 MHz Pentium ... and jump right to 120 MHz mobile Pentium processor late in the third quarter. Intel is working ... to bring out a PCI chip set... Though pricing is not yet available for the 120 MHz chip, it may be priced at a premium over the current desktop version. ... The Triton chip set for potables with PCI support is expected to appear at the same time ... Intel Pentium Processor Advantage ... * Voltage Reduction Technology, [VRT] allows the chip to operate at 2.9 volts while maintaining compatibility with 3.3 volt components. * The special, space saving "tape carrier" chip package, which allows for better heat dispensation than desktop processors; * On-chip power down, which powers the cache and floating-point unit when not in use. ----------------------< End of REPORT >---------------------------------- Functional parity with the desktops!!? I wonder what percentage of laptop & notebook motherboards and chip sets INTEL produces versus the desktops to warrant such needed notoriety? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 30 15:13:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11889; Tue, 30 May 95 15:13:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24240; Tue, 30 May 1995 14:50:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 30 May 1995 14:50:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA24214; Tue, 30 May 1995 14:50:41 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA01360; Tue, 30 May 95 14:50:49 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 May 95 14:50:49 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505301850.AA01360@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 1.2 gigabte disks and Lithium Ion batteries anyone know part numbers for these items, or availability from anyone? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 30 16:03:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21659; Tue, 30 May 95 16:03:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28815; Tue, 30 May 1995 15:40:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 30 May 1995 15:40:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from netcom18.netcom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28804; Tue, 30 May 1995 15:40:41 -0400 Received: by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id MAA21698; Tue, 30 May 1995 12:36:55 -0700 Message-Id: <199505301936.MAA21698@netcom18.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 30 May 95 12:41:17 EDT From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) Reply-To: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail v1.1 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Subject: OS/2 drivers for Panasonic KXL-D720 PCMCIA CDROM. Does anybody know of drivers for OS/2 Warp for the Panasonic KXL-D720 PCMCIA CDROM ? Has anyone succesfully installed off of this? If so could you please send me info. Thanks Martin P. Smith msmith@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------- Martin P. Smith msmith@netcom.com 1988 gun deaths: Canada 5, Great Britain 8, USA over 8500 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 30 17:06:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00462; Tue, 30 May 95 17:06:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04686; Tue, 30 May 1995 16:53:36 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 30 May 1995 16:53:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04676; Tue, 30 May 1995 16:53:34 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA07102 for ; Tue, 30 May 1995 15:53:31 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 15:53:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199505302053.PAA07102@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: Re: 1.2 gigabte disks and Lithium Ion batteries At 02:50 PM 5/30/95 -0400, you wrote: > >anyone know part numbers for these items, or availability from anyone? > > at least for lithium ion batteries, the below was posted on the email list back a couple weeks ago (not by me): >OK, several folks have asked about the message I had posted regarding the >Pentium upgrade and the LI batteries for the 755CE/CD. > >I've got price and part numbers from Entex (1-800-597-2468) and have ordered >the items already. > >Pentium upgrade part number: IB29H8755 $1172 >Lithium Ion battery part number: IB85G1513 $145 > --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 30 17:07:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00630; Tue, 30 May 95 17:07:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03790; Tue, 30 May 1995 16:43:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 30 May 1995 16:43:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from explorer.dgp.toronto.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA03778; Tue, 30 May 1995 16:43:11 -0400 Received: by explorer.dgp.toronto.edu id <144031>; Tue, 30 May 1995 16:43:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: Martin P. Smith's message as of May 30, 4:10pm X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) From: Eugene Fiume To: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith), TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: OS/2 drivers for Panasonic KXL-D720 PCMCIA CDROM. Message-Id: <95May30.164300edt.144031@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 16:42:52 -0400 Drivers are promised but I don't get the sense that they'll be distributed for a while yet. Eugene Fiume. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 30 17:10:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA01500; Tue, 30 May 95 17:10:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04896; Tue, 30 May 1995 16:56:17 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 30 May 1995 16:56:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04886; Tue, 30 May 1995 16:56:12 -0400 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA00773; Tue, 30 May 95 14:55:32 MDT Date: Tue, 30 May 95 14:55:32 MDT From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9505302055.AA00773@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Warp & APM (was SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp) On Tuesday, May 30, 1994, Scott A. Stratmoen writes: > I called IBM on this (mobiles group). They said that non-interlace for > the thinkpad at 1024x768 is a known bug. While they assured me that > a update will be released soon, I couldn't get a date out of them. > Thus I have left WARP for windows installed. On a different but related subject, I too was in contact with both the mobiles group and the OS/2 group today about problems with APM functions under Warp. I couldn't even get anyone very interested in these problems which were first reported in November of 1994, let alone assurance that a fix would eventually be provided. In fact, the only suggestion they could offer was to upgrade to a newer machine which uses the MWave chip and therefore also uses a newer, different BIOS than that which is used in the TP355, 360, and 750 series machines (!). I would expect this type of reply from one of the second-tier manufacturers, but coming from IBM, this really surprises me. I don't want to do as Scott has done and dump OS/2 in favor of Windows, but these features ought to work as advertised, dammit! The APAR which was generated to deal with these problems in 11/94 (#15544) has now been closed out without any type of forthcoming fix...good work, IBM! Anyway, I'm not done with these guys just yet... Can anyone who is running on either a TP701 or a TP755 verify that APM functions such as suspend/resume and hibernation work as advertised under OS/2 Warp? Thanks much. -- Karl E. Yeanoplos Denver, CO kyeanopl@den.mmc.com / key@csn.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 30 17:45:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10994; Tue, 30 May 95 17:45:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07684; Tue, 30 May 1995 17:33:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 30 May 1995 17:33:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA07665; Tue, 30 May 1995 17:33:31 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id OAA22888; Tue, 30 May 1995 14:33:29 -0700 Message-Id: <199505302133.OAA22888@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Tue, 30 May 95 14:34:55 EDT From: (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: (Roger J. Buffington) To: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: Warp & APM (was SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp) On Tue, 30 May 95 14:55:32 MDT you wrote: > >On Tuesday, May 30, 1994, Scott A. Stratmoen writes:>Can anyone who is running on either a TP701 or a TP755 verify that APM >functions such as suspend/resume and hibernation work as advertised under >OS/2 Warp? Thanks much. I'm running OS/2 Warp with a TP755Cs. All the APM features work, except that I have not tested hybernation, which I have no interest in. It is best to install the OS/2 Thinkpad features APM stuff from the features diskette that comes with the TP. It has more options than the APM that ships with Warp, although the latter do work fine with the TP. ----------------------------------- Roger J. Buffington 1L, USC Law Center AB6WR Go Trojans!! WARPing with PM-Mail ---------------------------------------------------- "You can't teach that horse to sing! No one can!" said the King's courtiers... "He gave me a year, and a lot can happen in a year. The horse might die. The king might die. I might die. And perhaps the horse will learn to sing..." From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 30 17:56:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12366; Tue, 30 May 95 17:56:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08417; Tue, 30 May 1995 17:44:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 30 May 1995 17:44:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA08400; Tue, 30 May 1995 17:44:36 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA1111; Tue, 30 May 95 17:39:06 -0400 Message-Id: <9505302139.AA1111@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id BE4C632AB68C8E1C852561CC0076EF3A; Tue, 30 May 95 17:39:05 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 30 May 95 17:42:17 Subject: Re: Lithium Ion batteries Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain >Lithium Ion battery part number: IB85G1513 $145 I'm paying $145 for NiMH batteries for the 755CD. What is the advantage of Lithium Ion over NiMH? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 30 18:38:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17755; Tue, 30 May 95 18:38:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11963; Tue, 30 May 1995 18:31:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 30 May 1995 18:31:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA11953; Tue, 30 May 1995 18:31:46 -0400 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16706; Tue, 30 May 95 18:31:24 -0400 Received: by slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0um) id AA0024; Tue, 30 May 95 18:31:07 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 May 95 18:31:07 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Message-Id: <9505302231.AA0024@slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu> To: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Tue, 30 May 95 14:55:32 MDT from kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Subject: Warp & APM (was SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp) Date: Tue, 30 May 95 14:55:32 MDT From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Anyway, I'm not done with these guys just yet... Can anyone who is running on either a TP701 or a TP755 verify that APM functions such as suspend/resume and hibernation work as advertised under OS/2 Warp? Thanks much. I thought the problem was that they worked _unless_ you used a power-on password. I have been using these features since I first installed Warp without trouble. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 30 20:27:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00489; Tue, 30 May 95 20:27:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17027; Tue, 30 May 1995 20:21:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 30 May 1995 20:21:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blob.best.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA17014; Tue, 30 May 1995 20:21:13 -0400 Received: from shell1.best.com (shell1.best.com [204.156.128.10]) by blob.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA14471; Tue, 30 May 1995 17:13:05 -0700 Received: (sandy@localhost) by shell1.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA16002; Tue, 30 May 1995 17:13:24 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 17:13:24 -0700 From: Sandy Meltzer Message-Id: <199505310013.RAA16002@shell1.best.com> Subject: Re: 1.2 gigabte disks and Lithium Ion batteries To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) >anyone know part numbers for these items, or availability from anyone? Based on info from IBM's WWW site the 1.2GB hard drive is part# 85GB561, availability June. Now I have a question too. Does anyone know when the software upgrade to allow the DSP in my 755CX to function as a 28.8Kbps modem will be available? Also, could someone please repost the name of the distributor or manufacturer that can supply internal hard drives for the 755 series? Thanks. _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +-----.oOOo--()--oOOo.-------+ | InterNet : sandy@sandy.com | +-------------- Oooo.--------+ .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 30 21:19:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10645; Tue, 30 May 95 21:19:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19086; Tue, 30 May 1995 21:12:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 30 May 1995 21:12:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA19075; Tue, 30 May 1995 21:12:56 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.43] (mac43.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA09323; Tue, 30 May 95 21:12:51 EDT Message-Id: <9505310112.AA09323@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 21:22:27 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: Warp & APM (was SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp) >On a different but related subject, I too was in contact with both the >mobiles group and the OS/2 group today about problems with APM functions >under Warp. I couldn't even get anyone very interested in these problems >which were first reported in November of 1994, let alone assurance that a >fix would eventually be provided. In fact, the only suggestion they could >offer was to upgrade to a newer machine which uses the MWave chip and >therefore also uses a newer, different BIOS than that which is used in >the TP355, 360, and 750 series machines (!). > >I would expect this type of reply from one of the second-tier manufacturers, >but coming from IBM, this really surprises me. I don't want to do as >Scott has done and dump OS/2 in favor of Windows, but these features ought >to work as advertised, dammit! The APAR which was generated to deal with >these problems in 11/94 (#15544) has now been closed out without any type of >forthcoming fix...good work, IBM! > Exactly what problems are you refering to? I use suspend and hibernation all the time on my 750 with no probs. Perhaps this is a 3xx specific problem. I never use the password, but I thought that that problem was fixed several thinkpad disks back. I have only two nits, which some might call problems. I used to hibernate at least every day, but recently I've taken to leaving the battery out of the machine and taking the power brick home instead in order to save my battery. The machine will not let you hibernate without the battery in place (unless you booted with the battery in place!). This means I have to boot at least once a day, or pop in the battery. Another bother is that I have to reinitialize my PCMCIA cards (pop them out and back in) after hibernation. Everything works afterwards. This is in contrast to Windows, where hibernation with TCPIP software installed led to a lockup of biblical proportions on wakeup. My guess is that the problem is fixed, and the person you talked to at IBM is (typically) clueless. ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 30 21:59:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16705; Tue, 30 May 95 21:59:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20694; Tue, 30 May 1995 21:52:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 30 May 1995 21:52:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA20681; Tue, 30 May 1995 21:52:36 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA04617; Tue, 30 May 95 21:53:21 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 May 95 21:53:21 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9505310153.AA04617@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: Michael_Verne/VENTANA.ITP@lgate.vmedia.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Lithium Ion batteries Lithium Ion batteries have far better charge cycle characteristics (note that the TP keeps them at 100% all the time), and last about 50% longer than NiMh batteries. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue May 30 22:46:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22506; Tue, 30 May 95 22:46:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23437; Tue, 30 May 1995 22:39:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 30 May 1995 22:39:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from panix3.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA23426; Tue, 30 May 1995 22:39:19 -0400 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix3.panix.com (8.6.12/8.6.12+PanixU1.0) id WAA01970; Tue, 30 May 1995 22:38:55 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 May 1995 22:38:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael MacDonald To: Thinkpad mailing list Subject: 755cd and Asymetrix DVP problems Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I recently attempted to capture video on my TP755cd for the first time, using Asymetrix Digital Video Producer. Every time I try to "Preview Video", the system crashes due to a "memory parity error". Anyone know what this means? Or if there's a solution to it? Thanks! Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com mmacdon1@tinker.hofstra.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 31 01:51:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18371; Wed, 31 May 95 01:51:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA06609; Wed, 31 May 1995 01:36:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 31 May 1995 01:36:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from duvi.eskom.co.za by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA06598; Wed, 31 May 1995 01:36:32 -0400 Received: from netman.eskom.co.za by duvi.eskom.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sGgRT-0001c9C; Wed, 31 May 95 07:35 RSA Received: from MP2NFS02/SpoolDir by netman.eskom.co.za (Mercury 1.21); 31 May 95 07:35:42 GMT+2 Received: from SpoolDir by MP2NFS02 (Mercury 1.21); 31 May 95 07:35:37 GMT+2 From: "Richard Ellerbrock" Organization: ESKOM Information Technology To: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen), tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 07:35:35 GMT+2 Subject: Re: SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp Reply-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) X-Confirm-Reading-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <5C97357172A@netman.eskom.co.za> > > Thanks to everyone who responded. Martin Smith mailed me his > > system.ini and I was able to figure out the problem. Apparently > > the gamma copy of Warp with Win-OS/2 I have failed to add an > > entry for the WD90C24 driver. The entries for the WD90C31 were > > there so I guess this is (was?) a bug in the installation program. > > I manually copied Martin's entry (4 lines) and it worked. Please could you tell me how to go about getting Warp for Windows (no Windows code with my Warp) working at resolutions higher than 640x480x256c on an external monitor connected to my 755c. The standard wd0c24 drivers shipped with Warp refuse to go higher (don't even get the option) and installing the old 2.1 video features disk really messed up my system. I have looked on ftp.pcco.ibm.com and have found Warp video features disks for all versions of the Thinkpad except the 755c. I am starting to get desperate. -- richarde@netman.eskom.co.za Richard Ellerbrock (ECNE) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 31 09:41:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17058; Wed, 31 May 95 09:41:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10648; Wed, 31 May 1995 09:26:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 31 May 1995 09:26:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dark.brown.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10636; Wed, 31 May 1995 09:26:42 -0400 Received: from poncho-slip5.cis.brown.edu (poncho-slip5.cis.brown.edu [128.148.19.42]) by dark.brown.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA21355; Wed, 31 May 1995 09:26:32 -0400 Message-Id: <199505311326.JAA21355@dark.brown.edu> X-Sender: Wai_Shan_Lam@postoffice.brown.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 21:26:05 -0400 To: retsla , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Wai_Shan_Lam@brown.edu (Wai-Shan Lam) Subject: Re: PCMCIA SCSI controllers? At 02:10 5/30/95 -29900, retsla wrote: > >Anybody have experience with PCMCIA SCSI controllers? I'm looking at the >Adaptec 1460. I need to use it with a Zip drive and either an HP IIcx or >HP IIIc scanner ...(neither of which I own yet). > >Any opinions? How about QLogic? > >Oh yea...and any experience with PCMCIA SCSI controllers and Linux? and >which one(s)? > I owned a BusToaster before, but bought an Adaptec later on. Adaptec is the only one, as far as I know, which also support OS/2. I use the Adaptec with my NEC CD-ROM and Zip Drive. Both work fine. the only possible problem are connectors. Adaptec came with a 50pin Centronic. Zip has a 25 pin. NEC uses a Hi Den SCSI-2 Connector. No idea about scanners and Linux. ~~~~~~~~ WAI-SHAN LAM ~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ waishan@ibm.net ~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~ Wai_Shan_Lam@Brown.edu ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~ 72124.2644@CompuServe.Com ~~~~~~~~ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 31 10:39:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24399; Wed, 31 May 95 10:39:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14895; Wed, 31 May 1995 10:20:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 31 May 1995 10:20:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA14883; Wed, 31 May 1995 10:20:50 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sGobE-0004ugC; Wed, 31 May 95 09:18 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sGobD-0002ncC; Wed, 31 May 95 09:18 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sGobB-0002wvC; Wed, 31 May 95 09:18 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 09:18:17 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <5C97357172A@netman.eskom.co.za> from "Richard Ellerbrock" at May 31, 95 07:35:35 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Please could you tell me how to go about getting Warp for Windows (no > Windows code with my Warp) working at resolutions higher than > 640x480x256c on an external monitor connected to my 755c. The standard > wd0c24 drivers shipped with Warp refuse to go higher (don't even get > the option) and installing the old 2.1 video features disk really > messed up my system. Hook up an external monitor and disable the LCD display. Start a full screen DOS session and run the command "svga on". Go back to OS/2's setup notebook and you should find options for 800x600 and 1024x768. Select one and reboot. Note that there ARE problems with a system that is configured for anything other than 640x480 when you switch between the LCD and CRT... -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 31 10:50:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25727; Wed, 31 May 95 10:50:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16489; Wed, 31 May 1995 10:39:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 31 May 1995 10:39:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA16478; Wed, 31 May 1995 10:39:42 -0400 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA00931; Wed, 31 May 95 08:39:02 MDT Date: Wed, 31 May 95 08:39:02 MDT From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9505311439.AA00931@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu Subject: Re: Warp & APM (was SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > My guess is that the problem is fixed, and the person > you talked to at IBM is (typically) clueless. Clueless, yes. Fixed, no. First of all, Chris Hanson was correct when he stated that the suspend/resume problem only occurs when the power-on password is enabled. Maybe no big deal to some, but my situation here at work requires that I use the password. With the password enabled, the machine will lock hard more often than not when attempting to use suspend/resume. Secondly, this is not 3xx series specific. In fact, I was first made aware of the problem by one of the 750 users on this mailing list. To demonstrate this to yourself, try this: With your PCMCIA card installed and your AC adapter plugged in and powered-up, start your machine and then initiate hibernation. Now power your machine back on with the battery removed and see if it doesn't result in a lockup which requires the sevices of the reset button in order to recover from. To be experiencing these problems is one thing; to have IBM just blow it off as unimportant is another. I had assumed (incorrectly, I guess) that IBM would stand behind its products. I don't think it's too much to ask that IBM's products work as advertised. -- Karl E. Yeanoplos Denver, CO kyeanopl@den.mmc.com / key@csn.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 31 11:06:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27396; Wed, 31 May 95 11:06:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17573; Wed, 31 May 1995 10:54:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 31 May 1995 10:54:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17563; Wed, 31 May 1995 10:54:17 -0400 Received: from slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26082; Wed, 31 May 95 10:53:54 -0400 Received: by slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0um) id AA0172; Wed, 31 May 95 10:53:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 May 95 10:53:36 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Message-Id: <9505311453.AA0172@slip-cph.lcs.mit.edu> To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Wed, 31 May 1995 07:35:35 GMT+2 from "Richard Ellerbrock" Subject: SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp From: "Richard Ellerbrock" Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 07:35:35 GMT+2 Please could you tell me how to go about getting Warp for Windows (no Windows code with my Warp) working at resolutions higher than 640x480x256c on an external monitor connected to my 755c. The standard wd0c24 drivers shipped with Warp refuse to go higher (don't even get the option) and installing the old 2.1 video features disk really messed up my system. Once you have installed the 2.1 video features, you're in real trouble. I did this once and was only able to fix it by reinstalling Warp. A friend also did this, and we were able to patch his system into a working state by manually comparing the files in his \os2 directory with the files in mine, and copying two or three of the Warp files back onto his machine. Reinstalling the Warp video drivers doesn't work, because it doesn't seem to overwrite all of the necessary files. Unfortunately, we didn't write down the list of files that we munged at the time, and now I no longer remember. What you should do, if you can, is find someone else running a 755c with this version of Warp (I can help with this if you have FTP access, but hurry since I'm upgrading to Warp Connect in a week or two). Get a copy of their \os2 directory on your machine somehow, then run `diff -rq' on the two directories (using GNU diff). Then you'll have to poke through the diff output to decide which files are important and which are irrelevant, and copy the important differences back into your \os2 directory. If you're not sure how to distinguish which files are important, I'll be happy to help -- I think I can figure it out if I see it again. Once you've recovered the original Warp drivers in a working state, you should follow the instructions in the Warp book describing how to enable SVGA modes. That will perform the initialization required to turn on the other resolutions for external monitors. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 31 11:11:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28603; Wed, 31 May 95 11:11:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17450; Wed, 31 May 1995 10:51:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 31 May 1995 10:51:51 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA17430; Wed, 31 May 1995 10:51:46 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 10:46:54 -29900 From: retsla Subject: Re: PCMCIA SCSI controllers? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199505311326.JAA21355@dark.brown.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 31 May 1995, Wai-Shan Lam wrote: > At 02:10 5/30/95 -29900, retsla wrote: > > > >Anybody have experience with PCMCIA SCSI controllers? I'm looking at the > >Adaptec 1460. I need to use it with a Zip drive and either an HP IIcx or > >HP IIIc scanner ...(neither of which I own yet). > > > >Any opinions? How about QLogic? > > > >Oh yea...and any experience with PCMCIA SCSI controllers and Linux? and > >which one(s)? > > I owned a BusToaster before, but bought an Adaptec later on. Adaptec is the > only one, as far as I know, which also support OS/2. I use the Adaptec with > my NEC CD-ROM and Zip Drive. Both work fine. the only possible problem are > connectors. Adaptec came with a 50pin Centronic. Zip has a 25 pin. NEC > uses a Hi Den SCSI-2 Connector. No idea about scanners and Linux. Well, I'll only be using the scanner with Windoze. ...and the connectors aren't a problem...there are adapters for most of them. http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 31 11:47:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00634; Wed, 31 May 95 11:47:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21033; Wed, 31 May 1995 11:35:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 31 May 1995 11:35:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mfmail.mfltd.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20936; Wed, 31 May 1995 11:35:01 -0400 From: Received: from ibm3172e.mfltd.co.uk by mfmail.mfltd.co.uk with SMTP (5.65/25-eef) id AA29360; Wed, 31 May 95 16:31:14 +0100 Message-Id: <9505311531.AA29360@mfmail.mfltd.co.uk> Received: from NWB.RSCS by NWB.MFLTD.CO.UK (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5707; Wed, 31 May 95 16:32:37 BST Date: Wed, 31 May 95 16:32:37 BST To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: SVGA Win-OS2 under Warp ======================================================================= From: D. Gwyn Jones Fileshare 2 development, Products Group. DGJ at NWB, GBHFFWHF at IBMMAIL, e-mail: dgj@mfltd.co.uk Subject: SVGA Win-OS2 under Warp > From: "Richard Ellerbrock" > Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 07:35:35 GMT+2 > > Please could you tell me how to go about getting Warp for Windows (no > Windows code with my Warp) working at resolutions higher than > 640x480x256c on an external monitor connected to my 755c. The standard > wd0c24 drivers shipped with Warp refuse to go higher (don't even get > the option) and installing the old 2.1 video features disk really > messed up my system. I haven't installed Warp yet but twice I have attempted to install SVGA drivers for OS/2 2.11 and messed it up. First time, OS/2 hung on booting (just at the point of trying to display the hour glass - the first PM display) and I was told buy our IS guys I had to reinstall OS/2 from scratch. Next time I tried switching back to standard VGA having installed an SVGA driver, again OS/2 would no longer boot up. Before reinstalling OS/2, I tried looking in the OS/2 reference (Wow - what a novel idea!). There is a helpful little entry in the index which reads "VGA Support, restoring mode". Referring to this section describes the steps required: Simply boot up with the OS/2 installation diskette (don't ask me what you CD-ROM users have to do!), and when you get to install disk 1, you elect to exit to an OS/2 prompt without going any further. Change to your \OS2 directory and enter SETVGA C: (or whatever your OS/2 drive is). Follow on screen instructions and when you reboot everything works again in glorious VGA! It's amazing what you can learn from the manuals. Although I can't speak for Warp... Regards, Gwyn. Micro Focus Ltd Tel. (44) (0)1635 565294 26 West Street Fax. (44) (0)1635 565567 Extension 5294 Newbury RG13 1JT U.K. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 31 12:54:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12910; Wed, 31 May 95 12:54:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26569; Wed, 31 May 1995 12:42:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 31 May 1995 12:42:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA26553; Wed, 31 May 1995 12:42:36 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id MAA21261; Wed, 31 May 1995 12:46:37 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 12:46:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Eugene Fiume Cc: "Martin P. Smith" , TP750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Panasonic KXL-D720 PCMCIA CDROM. In-Reply-To: <95May30.164300edt.144031@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just and FYI for everyone - as I type this, my Thinkpad is happily backing up its contents across the PCMCIA card that came with the KLX-D720 and onto an HP 2.0G SCSI tape drive, using ASPI controls. So I now have used the SCSI card for a SCSI device other than the Panasonic drive, and it's using the ASPI support to do it. Whoo hoo! By the way - I still need a male SCSI2 to centronics adapter so I can use this PCMCIA card with traditional SCSI devices. If anyone knows a US source, please let me know. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 31 14:29:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24350; Wed, 31 May 95 14:29:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09170; Wed, 31 May 1995 14:07:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 31 May 1995 14:07:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from doblegate.doble.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA09153; Wed, 31 May 1995 14:07:01 -0400 From: Received: from ccMail by doblegate.doble.com (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id fccafd90; Wed, 31 May 95 14:05:13 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 14:04:32 -0400 Message-Id: To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, Subject: Re: SVGA Win-OS2 under Warp Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.801943512" This is a Mime message, which your current mail reader may not understand. Parts of the message will appear as text. To process the rest, you will have to use a Mime compatible mail reader. Contact your vendor for details. --IMA.Boundary.801943512 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part >I haven't installed Warp yet but twice I have attempted to install >SVGA drivers for OS/2 2.11 and messed it up. First time, OS/2 hung on >booting Under Warp press Alt-F1 when the OS/2 appears in the upper left hand corner. A menu appears that allows you to restore various desktop backups (if set) and various things. One option is to restore the desktop to VGA mode. Another is to bypass the Desktop and go to a command line. Earlier versions also had the Alt-F1 feature but it was limited to bypassing the Desktop and going to a command line. 73 Eric WB1HBU --IMA.Boundary.801943512 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Received: from [128.169.94.1] by doblegate.doble.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange v1.04) id fcc90700; Wed, 31 May 95 11:51:12 -0400 Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA21033; Wed, 31 May 1995 11:35:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 31 May 1995 11:35:37 EDT Errors-to: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mfmail.mfltd.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA20936; Wed, 31 May 1995 11:35:01 -0400 From: Received: from ibm3172e.mfltd.co.uk by mfmail.mfltd.co.uk with SMTP (5.65/25-eef) id AA29360; Wed, 31 May 95 16:31:14 +0100 Message-Id: <9505311531.AA29360@mfmail.mfltd.co.uk> Received: from NWB.RSCS by NWB.MFLTD.CO.UK (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5707; Wed, 31 May 95 16:32:37 BST Date: Wed, 31 May 95 16:32:37 BST To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: SVGA Win-OS2 under Warp --IMA.Boundary.801943512-- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 31 16:30:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11639; Wed, 31 May 95 16:30:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19264; Wed, 31 May 1995 16:00:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 31 May 1995 16:00:18 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA19240; Wed, 31 May 1995 16:00:15 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sGtvM-0004uqC; Wed, 31 May 95 14:59 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sGtvL-0002ncC; Wed, 31 May 95 14:59 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sGtvK-0002wvC; Wed, 31 May 95 14:59 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Warp & APM (was SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp) To: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 14:59:25 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9505302055.AA00773@amazon.den.mmc.com> from "Karl Yeanoplos" at May 30, 95 02:55:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Thus I have left WARP for windows installed. > > > On a different but related subject, I too was in contact with both the > mobiles group and the OS/2 group today about problems with APM functions > under Warp. I couldn't even get anyone very interested in these problems > which were first reported in November of 1994, let alone assurance that a > fix would eventually be provided. In fact, the only suggestion they could > offer was to upgrade to a newer machine which uses the MWave chip and > therefore also uses a newer, different BIOS than that which is used in > the TP355, 360, and 750 series machines (!). Typical. > I would expect this type of reply from one of the second-tier manufacturers, > but coming from IBM, this really surprises me. I don't want to do as > Scott has done and dump OS/2 in favor of Windows, but these features ought > to work as advertised, dammit! The APAR which was generated to deal with > these problems in 11/94 (#15544) has now been closed out without any type of > forthcoming fix...good work, IBM! Actually I am still running WARP (red box). Currently I am using rodent to speed up the mouse (trackpoint). This has the effect of causing WARP to crash on a suspend / resume. IBM's reply what that APM is broken under WARP and I should comment out apm and vapm. When these drivers are commented out the PCMCIA stack, card and socket services, are shielded from power events. Thus saving the state of a device such a modem doesn't occur. This means that I have to reboot after a suspend if I want to use the modem. On the other hand, suspend with the APM drivers install always was strange under WARP (w/o rodent). The suspend process takes many seconds and is accompanied by numerous beeps. In addition, many times the machine simply fails to go into suspend (i.e. disk activity continues beyond the period of time allotted to a suspend to occur). IBM appears unwilling to fix these problems. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 31 17:32:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20018; Wed, 31 May 95 17:32:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26452; Wed, 31 May 1995 17:16:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 31 May 1995 17:16:38 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from amazon.den.mmc.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA26442; Wed, 31 May 1995 17:16:36 -0400 Received: by amazon.den.mmc.com (4.1/1.34.a) id AA01052; Wed, 31 May 95 15:15:56 MDT Date: Wed, 31 May 95 15:15:56 MDT From: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com (Karl Yeanoplos) Message-Id: <9505312115.AA01052@amazon.den.mmc.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Warp & APM (was SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp) > IBM appears unwilling to fix these problems. Yep, and I'm unwilling to let these guys (IBM) off the hook until I get something other than stonewalling. An IBMer named Doug Staples (800-772-2227 ext. 1029) claims that there is a beta version of the v1.16 BIOS for the 360 and 750 machines in the works. Whether or not it will fix these problems isn't very clear. Doug is supposed to get back to me with more info, which I will make available to the group if and when he comes through... -- Karl E. Yeanoplos Denver, CO kyeanopl@den.mmc.com / key@csn.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 31 20:11:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11984; Wed, 31 May 95 20:11:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07421; Wed, 31 May 1995 19:59:40 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 31 May 1995 19:59:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA07410; Wed, 31 May 1995 19:59:35 -0400 Received: from alcor.usc.edu (whittle@alcor.usc.edu [128.125.253.169]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id QAA12724; Wed, 31 May 1995 16:59:32 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by alcor.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id QAA20025; Wed, 31 May 1995 16:59:30 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199505312359.QAA20025@alcor.usc.edu> Subject: Re: 755cd and Asymetrix DVP problems To: macd@panix.com (Michael MacDonald) Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 16:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Michael MacDonald" at May 30, 95 10:38:55 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I recently attempted to capture video on my TP755cd for the first time, > using Asymetrix Digital Video Producer. Every time I try to "Preview > Video", the system crashes due to a "memory parity error". Anyone know > what this means? Or if there's a solution to it? Usually this kind of error means you have a bad memory card/chip of some sort. If so, you may have had it all along and never knew it, because you never really maxed out your memory until you did something stringent like this. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 31 21:02:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17183; Wed, 31 May 95 21:02:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10384; Wed, 31 May 1995 20:39:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 31 May 1995 20:39:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA10374; Wed, 31 May 1995 20:39:50 -0400 Received: from alcor.usc.edu (whittle@alcor.usc.edu [128.125.253.169]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id RAA14787; Wed, 31 May 1995 17:39:48 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by alcor.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id RAA20901; Wed, 31 May 1995 17:39:47 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199506010039.RAA20901@alcor.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Panasonic KXL-D720 PCMCIA CDROM. To: dwhite@shadow.net (Don Whiteside) Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 17:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Don Whiteside" at May 31, 95 12:46:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > By the way - I still need a male SCSI2 to centronics adapter so I can use > this PCMCIA card with traditional SCSI devices. If anyone knows a US > source, please let me know. For all your SCSI needs, I have had the best results from a place called "APS Technologies". They are the SCSI MASTERS (though they are very Mac-oriented). Their cabling is the highest quality (the last think you want to screw around with in multiply-linked SCSI devices is a bad cable somewhere driving you crazy), but the prices ain't the cheapest. Personally, I think the quality more than makes up for the price. At any rate, you can call them at (800) 325-6316. I think they are located in Missouri. Also, you can e-mail them: sales@apstech.com support@apstech.com service@apstech.com (they have other addresses, but I don't think they'll do a lot of good until after you buy from them--i.e., support, etc.) ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed May 31 22:33:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28519; Wed, 31 May 95 22:33:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16043; Wed, 31 May 1995 22:10:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 31 May 1995 22:10:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA16012; Wed, 31 May 1995 22:10:02 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id WAA08159; Wed, 31 May 1995 22:14:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 22:14:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Randal Whittle Cc: Michael MacDonald , TP Subject: Re: 755cd and Asymetrix DVP problems In-Reply-To: <199505312359.QAA20025@alcor.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 31 May 1995, Randal Whittle wrote: > > I recently attempted to capture video on my TP755cd for the first time, > > using Asymetrix Digital Video Producer. Every time I try to "Preview > > Video", the system crashes due to a "memory parity error". Anyone know > > what this means? Or if there's a solution to it? > > Usually this kind of error means you have a bad memory card/chip > of some sort. Possible, but not necessarily. My desktop machine has 16M in is and I used to get a memory parity error if I really pushed the system hard. But it didn't start up till over 6 months after I put the new chips in. Turned out to be a freaky Windows problem. (Is there any other kind?) If I did a clean Windows install and ran all the same apps, no error. No tester ever found the problem (though I stopped short of taking them out and having them properly tested). And now that I've dumped Windows and went to OS2 on that machine, I have had no problems. So if the problem persists, you could (ick) try a total re-install of your programs and copy back your data files. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 1 01:44:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24232; Thu, 1 Jun 95 01:44:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27719; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 01:32:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 01:32:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27705; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 01:31:56 -0400 Received: by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA66322; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 05:31:53 GMT Message-Id: <199506010531.AA66322@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip36-11.il.us.ibm.net(129.37.36.11) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaAw8Dmb; Thu Jun 1 05:31:46 1995 Date: Wed, 31 May 95 18:14:59 PDT From: hosmer@ibm.net (Stephen Hosmer) Reply-To: hosmer@ibm.net (Stephen Hosmer) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Stephen Hosmer's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: Warp & APM (was SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp) On Tue, 30 May 95 14:55:32 MDT you wrote: In fact, the only suggestion they could >offer was to upgrade to a newer machine which uses the MWave chip and >therefore also uses a newer, different BIOS than that which is used in >the TP355, 360, and 750 series machines (!). Did they actually have an upgrade price, or did they mean to pay full price for a new machine? ________________________________ Stephen Hosmer shosmer@ibm.net Does anybody want to buy this 750C? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 1 01:44:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24237; Thu, 1 Jun 95 01:44:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27704; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 01:31:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 01:31:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA27693; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 01:31:52 -0400 Received: by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA140554; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 05:31:42 GMT Message-Id: <199506010531.AA140554@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip36-11.il.us.ibm.net(129.37.36.11) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smaAwICrx; Thu Jun 1 05:31:41 1995 Date: Wed, 31 May 95 18:20:45 PDT From: hosmer@ibm.net (Stephen Hosmer) Reply-To: hosmer@ibm.net (Stephen Hosmer) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Stephen Hosmer's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: Warp & APM (was SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp) On Tue, 30 May 1995 21:22:27 +0100 Victor Kress wrote: >Exactly what problems are you refering to? I use suspend and hibernation >all the time on my 750 with no probs. Perhaps this is a 3xx specific >problem. I never use the password, but I thought that that problem was >fixed several thinkpad disks back. I have only two nits, which some might >call problems. I used to hibernate at least every day, but recently I've >taken to leaving the battery out of the machine and taking the power brick >home instead in order to save my battery. The machine will not let you >hibernate without the battery in place (unless you booted with the battery >in place!). This means I have to boot at least once a day, or pop in the >battery. Why boot at all? Just hibernate everytime you poweroff. (I do). ________________________________ Stephen Hosmer shosmer@ibm.net Does anybody want to buy this 750C? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 1 04:27:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14926; Thu, 1 Jun 95 04:27:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA10887; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 04:15:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 04:15:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from panix3.panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA10870; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 04:15:48 -0400 Received: (from macd@localhost) by panix3.panix.com (8.6.12/8.6.12+PanixU1.0) id EAA11934; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 04:15:14 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 04:15:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael MacDonald To: Randal Whittle Cc: TP Subject: Re: 755cd and Asymetrix DVP problems In-Reply-To: <199505312359.QAA20025@alcor.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 31 May 1995, Randal Whittle wrote: > > I recently attempted to capture video on my TP755cd for the first time, > > using Asymetrix Digital Video Producer. Every time I try to "Preview > > Video", the system crashes due to a "memory parity error". Anyone know > > what this means? Or if there's a solution to it? > > Usually this kind of error means you have a bad memory card/chip > of some sort. > > If so, you may have had it all along and never knew it, because > you never really maxed out your memory until you did something stringent > like this. I don't think it's a memory chip problem. I've maxed out on memory many times without any error messages or crashes. I frequently open 5MB graphics files in Photoshop, for example, without any trouble. With DVP, however, the system crashes after only one second of video capture. I have 24MB of RAM on the 755cd, so I can't be maxing out on RAM in that amount of time. I don't think it's a Windows problem either. The DVP I'm using was moved from another disk drive (with a separate version of Windows on it). Both DVPs have crashed when used on my 755cd. Are there any memory utilities which could diagnose this? Also, someone mentioned that IBM can check my system over the phone. How does this work? If it my memory needs to be replaced, how long does this take? I need the 755cd every day for work. Thanks for all your assistance! Michael MacDonald macd@panix.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 1 08:29:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15629; Thu, 1 Jun 95 08:29:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28697; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 08:12:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 08:12:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from pelican.cit.cornell.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA28687; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 08:12:37 -0400 Received: from CU-DIALUP-0428.CIT.CORNELL.EDU by pelican.cit.cornell.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03chaos) id AA25489; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 08:10:57 -0400 Message-Id: <9506011210.AA25489@pelican.cit.cornell.edu> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) From: Bob Cowles To: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 08:11:06 EDT Reply-To: Bob Cowles Subject: Re: Warp & APM (was SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp) Addressed to: kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ** Reply to note from kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com 05/30/95 2:55pm MDT I have a 755c and am using all Warp drivers except for $icpmos2 ... I think that that is power management. As I recall, hibernation does not work properly with Warp version of the driver (I seem to recall that suspend/resume was OK, tho.) With the configuration I am using, hibernation works about 75% of the time -- and I have been unable to figure out the set of circumstances that causes it to stop working. I'll probably go back to using the thinkpad drivers when I get some time to mess with it. The reason I was trying to get along with the Warp drivers was an attempt to get sound to work when running a Windows application (eg PowerPoint) under OS/2 AND have it also work when running Windows native. If I used the Thinkpad drivers I con't get any sound from Windows applications under OS/2 but they would work just fine running native. By using the Warp drivers, I can get sound from Windows apps running under OS/2 but it is at a reduced volume even though every sound volume control I can find is set to the max. I also have lost sound completely when running native ... it acts like everything should work (drivers seem happy), but no sound from the speaker. Any advice would be welcome. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Cowles (aka Dr. Chaos) rdc1@cornell.edu & drchaos@pelican.cit.cornell.edu ...the quick inference, ... the clever forecast of coming events, the triumphant vindication of bold theories -- are these not the pride and the justification of our life's work?-Sherlock Holmes in "Valley of Fear" From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 1 10:09:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27380; Thu, 1 Jun 95 10:09:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06187; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 09:59:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 09:59:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from duvi.eskom.co.za by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA06176; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 09:59:04 -0400 Received: from netman.eskom.co.za by duvi.eskom.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sHAlL-0001bGC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 15:58 RSA Received: from MP2NFS02/SpoolDir by netman.eskom.co.za (Mercury 1.21); 1 Jun 95 15:58:14 GMT+2 Received: from SpoolDir by MP2NFS02 (Mercury 1.21); 1 Jun 95 15:57:59 GMT+2 From: "Richard Ellerbrock" Organization: ESKOM Information Technology To: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen), tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 15:57:54 GMT+2 Subject: Re: SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp Reply-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) X-Confirm-Reading-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <5E9E3901C53@netman.eskom.co.za> > > Please could you tell me how to go about getting Warp for Windows (no > > Windows code with my Warp) working at resolutions higher than > > 640x480x256c on an external monitor connected to my 755c. The standard > > wd0c24 drivers shipped with Warp refuse to go higher (don't even get > > the option) and installing the old 2.1 video features disk really > > messed up my system. > > Hook up an external monitor and disable the LCD display. Start a full > screen DOS session and run the command "svga on". Go back to OS/2's > setup notebook and you should find options for 800x600 and 1024x768. > Select one and reboot. > > Note that there ARE problems with a system that is configured for > anything other than 640x480 when you switch between the LCD and > CRT... You are a star! It worked. Took me six months to find a solution to my problem. Now please tell me why my monitor goes out of sync in a text session at 1024x768. Graphics works fine! I would have thought that the graphics session would have gone out of sync. I have played around with the setcrt command, but with no success. -- richarde@netman.eskom.co.za Richard Ellerbrock (ECNE) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 1 10:33:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00249; Thu, 1 Jun 95 10:33:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08121; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 10:21:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 10:21:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from duvi.eskom.co.za by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08085; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 10:21:10 -0400 Received: from netman.eskom.co.za by duvi.eskom.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sHB6M-0001bIC; Thu, 1 Jun 95 16:19 RSA Received: from MP2NFS02/SpoolDir by netman.eskom.co.za (Mercury 1.21); 1 Jun 95 16:19:57 GMT+2 Received: from SpoolDir by MP2NFS02 (Mercury 1.21); 1 Jun 95 16:19:42 GMT+2 From: "Richard Ellerbrock" Organization: ESKOM Information Technology To: Chris Hanson Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 16:19:37 GMT+2 Subject: Re: SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp Reply-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Confirm-Reading-To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <5EA406F17A3@netman.eskom.co.za> > Please could you tell me how to go about getting Warp for Windows (no > Windows code with my Warp) working at resolutions higher than > 640x480x256c on an external monitor connected to my 755c. The standard > wd0c24 drivers shipped with Warp refuse to go higher (don't even get > the option) and installing the old 2.1 video features disk really > messed up my system. > > Once you have installed the 2.1 video features, you're in real > trouble. I did this once and was only able to fix it by reinstalling > Warp. A friend also did this, and we were able to patch his system > into a working state by manually comparing the files in his \os2 > directory with the files in mine, and copying two or three of the Warp > files back onto his machine. > > Reinstalling the Warp video drivers doesn't work, because it doesn't > seem to overwrite all of the necessary files. Unfortunately, we > didn't write down the list of files that we munged at the time, and > now I no longer remember. I re-installed the video drivers and managed to get the system working (sort of!). I also managed to get higher resolution (somebody on the list told me what to do). I am still having problems with Windows though. Would it be possible to send me a dir listing of your Windows and system dirs, plus a copy of your system.ini file. You are running Warp for Windows I presume. -- richarde@netman.eskom.co.za Richard Ellerbrock (ECNE) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 1 10:37:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00284; Thu, 1 Jun 95 10:37:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08564; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 10:26:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 10:26:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08553; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 10:26:20 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA21424; Thu, 1 Jun 95 10:24:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 95 10:24:25 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9506011424.AA21424@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: richarde@netman.eskom.co.za, strat@dsd.northrop.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp incidentally, this procedure is exactly documented in the documentation that came with my thinkpad 755CX (in the boklet on using your thinkpad with Warp) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 1 11:28:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10811; Thu, 1 Jun 95 11:28:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12819; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 11:17:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 11:17:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from dkh406e.cba.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12805; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 11:17:47 -0400 Received: (from sean@localhost) by dkh406e.cba.uiuc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA02698 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 09:13:58 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199506011413.JAA02698@dkh406e.cba.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Inroduction and Request for NT3.5 help To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 09:13:58 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: from "Brian Perry" at May 30, 95 11:00:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > system. The OS is Windows NT 3.5.1 ( 944 Build ), dual boot with WFW 311. Ah, latest thing, huh? ;) > Expect to upgrade soon to Windows 95. I use a Parallel Pocket Ethernet This will eliminate most of your NT problems. > modem for remote ( use RAS under NT and WFW ). Evaluating PCMCIA network and > modem cards for use under both operating systems. NT 3.5.1 only supports a very limited set of PCMCIA cards. Be sure to get that list; anything on it will undoubtedly have Windows drivers as well. Unfortunately, I recall that some of the supported cards are not going to be supported under some OS's (like Linux). > Does anyone have any info on display drivers that run under NT for > 640X480 256 colors? One may have come out, but I don't believe that there is one. Please correct me if I'm wrong so I can fix the FAQ. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 1 12:11:40 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16208; Thu, 1 Jun 95 12:11:40 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16917; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 12:03:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 12:03:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA16905; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 12:03:07 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA22102; Thu, 1 Jun 95 12:03:54 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 95 12:03:54 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9506011603.AA22102@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: sean@dkh406e.cba.uiuc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Inroduction and Request for NT3.5 help ho ho, I like the idea of *upgrading* from NT 3.5 to Windows 95, BG would just love that idea! From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 1 12:29:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17593; Thu, 1 Jun 95 12:29:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18612; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 12:21:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 12:21:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from research.CS.ORST.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA18599; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 12:21:20 -0400 Received: from topaz.CS.ORST.EDU by research.CS.ORST.EDU (4.1/1.30) id AA13877; Thu, 1 Jun 95 09:21:55 PDT Message-Id: <9506011621.AA13877@research.CS.ORST.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP755CE/Mwave/Linux/SLIP problem Cc: quinn@chert.CS.ORST.EDU Reply-To: quinn@chert.CS.ORST.EDU Date: Thu, 01 Jun 95 09:20:10 PDT From: quinn@chert.CS.ORST.EDU ------- I'm running Linux on my ThinkPad 755CE, and I'd like to get SLIP up and running. Does anybody know how to run SLIP over the Mwave chip? Thanks, Mike Quinn ------- Michael J. Quinn Internet: quinn@research.cs.orst.edu Department of Computer Science UUCP: ...!hplabs!hp-pcd!orstcs!quinn Oregon State University Bell-net: (503) 737-5572 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 1 12:58:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21525; Thu, 1 Jun 95 12:58:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20650; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 12:51:24 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 12:51:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mindvox.phantom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA20636; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 12:51:20 -0400 Received: (from alster@localhost) by mindvox.phantom.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) id MAA02639; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 12:46:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 12:46:09 -0400 (EDT) From: taoster! Subject: Re: TP755CE/Mwave/Linux/SLIP problem To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9506011621.AA13877@research.CS.ORST.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 1 Jun 1995 quinn@chert.CS.ORST.EDU wrote: > I'm running Linux on my ThinkPad 755CE, and I'd like to get SLIP up and > running. Does anybody know how to run SLIP over the Mwave chip? Well, you can't ...because there are no drivers for the MWave chip stuff for Linux. I'm about to install Linux on mine ....and I got the PCMCIA boot/root disks from David Hinds' (PCMCIA author) site...and it kernel panics at boot ...while the generic Slackware boot/root disks work fine. I'd like to use the PCMCIA for installing Linux over NFS. http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 1 13:57:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28755; Thu, 1 Jun 95 13:57:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25198; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 13:44:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 13:44:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA25184; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 13:43:58 -0400 Received: from hp715.cuug.ab.ca by cuugnet.cuug.ab.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-CUUG-02) id AA23338; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 11:40:34 -0600 From: pepersb@cuug.ab.ca (Brad Pepers) Received: by hp715.cuug.ab.ca (1.37.109.16//ident-1.0) id AA298278959; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 11:49:19 -0600 Message-Id: <199506011749.AA298278959@hp715.cuug.ab.ca> Subject: Re: TP755CE/Mwave/Linux/SLIP problem To: quinn@chert.CS.ORST.EDU Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 11:49:19 -0600 (MDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9506011621.AA13877@research.CS.ORST.EDU> from "quinn@chert.CS.ORST.EDU" at Jun 1, 95 09:20:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm running Linux on my ThinkPad 755CE, and I'd like to get SLIP up and > running. Does anybody know how to run SLIP over the Mwave chip? > > Thanks, > > Mike Quinn Sorry - Linux doesn't support the MWave chip so you cannot use it in any way right now. I am starting a project to write a Linux driver for the MWave but don't expect to see any results for quite a while! +----------------------------Ren & Stimpy--------------------------------+ | "Psst. Hey Guido. It's all so clear to me now. I'm the keeper of the | | cheese. And you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it. That's | | why he's gonna kill us. So we gotta beat it. Yeah. Before he lets | | loose the marmosets on us! Don't worry, little missy! I'll save you!" | +------------------ Brad Pepers -- pepersb@cuug.ab.ca -------------------+ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 1 14:12:29 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00253; Thu, 1 Jun 95 14:12:29 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26239; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 13:54:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 13:54:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA26226; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 13:54:42 -0400 Received: by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA129282; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 17:54:40 GMT Message-Id: <199506011754.AA129282@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip6-137.fl.us.ibm.net(129.37.6.137) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smamfwDmb; Thu Jun 1 17:54:28 1995 Date: Thu, 01 Jun 95 10:35:52 PDT From: hosmer@ibm.net (Stephen Hosmer) Reply-To: hosmer@ibm.net (Stephen Hosmer) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Stephen Hosmer's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: PCMCIA CD-ROM On Fri, 19 May 1995 11:51:36 -0400 stevens@watson.ibm.com wrote: > >Hi, I was wondering what the consensus was on the best CD-ROM drive >that will plug into my PCMCIA slot. I notice that Panasonic has a >2X drive with PCMCIA card for $290. Has anybody successfully hooked >this one up to a 750C? I have had good success using the adaptec 460 PCMCIA->SCSI and a NEC 3xe It seems to run fine, I only have one issue. You must have the card in and the drive on at bootup. This means that I cannot suspend or Hibernate or I loose the drive. I know, picky - picky. ________________________________ Stephen Hosmer shosmer@ibm.net Does anybody want to buy this 750C? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 1 15:58:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA17005; Thu, 1 Jun 95 15:58:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05028; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 15:37:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 15:37:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from shadow.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA05016; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 15:37:18 -0400 Received: (dwhite@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.10/jc-1.0) id PAA09200; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 15:41:02 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 15:41:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Whiteside To: Stephen Hosmer Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: PCMCIA CD-ROM In-Reply-To: <199506011754.AA129282@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 1 Jun 1995, Stephen Hosmer wrote: > On Fri, 19 May 1995 11:51:36 -0400 stevens@watson.ibm.com wrote: > >Hi, I was wondering what the consensus was on the best CD-ROM drive > >that will plug into my PCMCIA slot. I notice that Panasonic has a > >2X drive with PCMCIA card for $290. Has anybody successfully hooked > >this one up to a 750C? > > I have had good success using the adaptec 460 PCMCIA->SCSI and a NEC 3xe > > It seems to run fine, I only have one issue. You must have the card in and the drive on at bootup. > This means that I cannot suspend or Hibernate or I loose the drive. This is pretty much the same situation with the Panasonic SCSI card (that comes with the D720 CD ROM). It will load the ASPI driver if the card is not in (although I haven't yet tried putting in in later and using it,so tht may not be worth anything), but the CD ASPI driver fails if the drive is not connected, and MSCDEX won't load unless it can find the driver. MSCDEX I could live with - I can load it from the command line. The ASPI-CD driver, though, is a device driver, so I have to reboot to use the CD ROM. Have I mentioned how much I hate DOS? ======================================================================== Donald Alan Whiteside School of Computer Science Official Usenet Dork for the week of Jan 9-13, 1995 GCS d-- -p+(---) l u+(-) e+ m+ s !n h f g+ w+ t+(++) r- y++ "I timed it. It took 22 seconds for him to hate you." - Chicago Hope ======================================================================== From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 1 16:13:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19430; Thu, 1 Jun 95 16:13:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06703; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 15:56:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 15:56:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA06350; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 15:52:59 -0400 Received: by FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA28832; Thu, 1 Jun 95 15:52:06 EDT Date: Thu, 1 Jun 95 15:52:06 EDT From: fox@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU (David Fox) Message-Id: <9506011952.AA28832@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU> To: quinn@chert.CS.ORST.EDU Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755CE/Mwave/Linux/SLIP problem In-Reply-To: <9506011621.AA13877@research.CS.ORST.EDU> References: <9506011621.AA13877@research.CS.ORST.EDU> > I'm running Linux on my ThinkPad 755CE, and I'd like to get SLIP up and > running. Does anybody know how to run SLIP over the Mwave chip? I don't think you can use the Mwave chip at all under Linux, but please correct me if I'm wrong. I run SLIP without incident using a MegaHertz PCMCIA modem. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 1 17:04:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25860; Thu, 1 Jun 95 17:04:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11665; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 16:50:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 16:50:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from merle.acns.nwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11655; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 16:50:31 -0400 Received: by merle.acns.nwu.edu (1.37.109.16/20.3) id AA111439816; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 15:50:17 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 15:50:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Conrad Albrecht-Buehler Subject: Linux, TP, and ZipDrive To: TP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Has anyone successfully been able to access the ZipDrive over Linux? How? see ya. --Conrad Conrad Albrecht-Buehler Northwestern University conrada-b@nwu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 1 17:10:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26752; Thu, 1 Jun 95 17:10:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11891; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 16:52:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 16:52:26 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA11881; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 16:52:23 -0400 Received: by FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA28930; Thu, 1 Jun 95 16:53:08 EDT Date: Thu, 1 Jun 95 16:53:08 EDT From: fox@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU (David Fox) Message-Id: <9506012053.AA28930@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: TP755CE/Mwave/Linux/SLIP problem In-Reply-To: <9506011952.AA28832@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU> References: <9506011621.AA13877@research.CS.ORST.EDU> <9506011952.AA28832@FIRST.CS.NYU.EDU> David Fox writes: > > I'm running Linux on my ThinkPad 755CE, and I'd like to get SLIP up and > > running. Does anybody know how to run SLIP over the Mwave chip? > > I don't think you can use the Mwave chip at all under Linux, > but please correct me if I'm wrong. I run SLIP without incident > using a MegaHertz PCMCIA modem. Sorry about giving an answer that was already given. To add some value to the discussion, let me just say that in order to install Linux via NFS on a Thinkpad 755CED you could take Dave Hind's non-working bootdisk/rootdisk pair and follow the instructions in SLAKWARE.FAQ for replacing a bootdisk kernel: Q: How do I make a Slackware bootkernel disk with this new kernel I made? A: OK, well you grab an existing one like the "bare.gz", put it on a floppy, and do this: mount /dev/fd0 /mnt (this mounts it) cat zImage > /mnt/vmlinuz (put the new kernel in place) rdev -R /mnt/vmlinuz 0 (mount read-write) rdev /mnt/vmlinuz /dev/fd0H1440 (use that drive, or /dev/fd0h1200) rdev -r /mnt/vmlinuz 1440 (set the ramdisk size, or use 1200 with 1.2 meg) lilo -r /mnt (reinstall lilo) umount /mnt (that's it! you're done! :^) I have a working 1.2.2 kernel which I will place on cs.nyu.edu:pub/local/fox/linux/pcmcia-k.tgz. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 1 22:11:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20105; Thu, 1 Jun 95 22:11:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01118; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 22:00:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 22:00:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cln.etc.bc.ca by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA01099; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 22:00:27 -0400 Received: from sparky.etc.bc.ca by cln.etc.bc.ca for tp750@cs.utk.edu (4.1/1.39) id AA12789; Thu, 1 Jun 95 18:59:58 PDT Received: by sparky.etc.bc.ca (4.1//ident-1.0) id AA05350; Thu, 1 Jun 95 18:59:46 PDT Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 18:59:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Pat Presidente Subject: Re: PCMCIA CD-ROM To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199506011754.AA129282@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Has anyone had any experience with the Z drive (CD ROM player, PCMCIA adaptor, 16 bit sound and speakers)? It seems to be quite competitively priced for this all encompassing unit. I believe the CD ROM unit is X2, non-SCSI. Pat O _ | Pat Presidente | ======= | Technology Resource Teacher | |_-/_| | ppreside@cln.etc.bc.ca | P R E Z | SD 72 425 Pinecrest Rd | | | | 604-286-0651 Fx 286-9801 | ======= | Campbell River, B.C. V9W 3P2 | =======|"It's a half an inch of water and you think you're gonna drown"-JP | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 2 00:47:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28819; Fri, 2 Jun 95 00:47:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11118; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 00:39:34 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 00:39:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA11108; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 00:39:32 -0400 From: Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA001597932; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 00:38:52 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 00:38:52 -0400 Message-Id: <950602003851_19615052@aol.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP755C Windows Audio Does anybody know how to change the default settings for the three controls of wave out, midi out, and mic gain in the audio control? This is for the Thinkpad 755 series and the audio control for Windows. I would like to know how to save settings as well. Thanks. Mark From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 2 10:39:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28250; Fri, 2 Jun 95 10:39:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22842; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 10:27:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 10:27:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA22831; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 10:27:40 -0400 Received: by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (5.67b/4.03) id AA155178; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 14:27:34 GMT Message-Id: <199506021427.AA155178@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip37-6.il.us.ibm.net(129.37.37.6) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma7xwDe7; Fri Jun 2 14:27:24 1995 Date: Thu, 01 Jun 95 18:22:46 PDT From: hosmer@ibm.net (Stephen Hosmer) Reply-To: hosmer@ibm.net (Stephen Hosmer) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Stephen Hosmer's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: SVGA Win-OS2 under Warp On Wed, 31 May 95 16:32:37 BST DGJ@mfltd.co.uk wrote: >Simply boot up with the OS/2 installation diskette (don't ask me what you >CD-ROM users have to do!), and when you get to install disk 1, you elect to >exit to an OS/2 prompt without going any further. Change to your \OS2 >directory and enter SETVGA C: (or whatever your OS/2 drive is). Follow >on screen instructions and when you reboot everything works again in >glorious VGA! The simple way to recover VGA mode in Warp is to press F1 at bootup when you see the os/2 bar. This will give you a menu of "recovery" options. >It's amazing what you can learn from the manuals. Although I can't speak for >Warp... ________________________________ Stephen Hosmer shosmer@ibm.net Does anybody want to buy this 750C? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 2 12:26:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09130; Fri, 2 Jun 95 12:26:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01853; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 12:16:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 12:16:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Spectrum.RNS.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA01816; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 12:16:36 -0400 Received: from karma.rns.com.rns.com by Spectrum.RNS.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1(Spectrum)) id AA00659; Fri, 2 Jun 95 09:09:13 PDT Received: by karma.rns.com.rns.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18021; Fri, 2 Jun 95 09:13:16 PDT Date: Fri, 2 Jun 95 09:13:16 PDT From: raward@karma.RNS.COM (Richard A. Ward) Message-Id: <9506021613.AA18021@karma.rns.com.rns.com> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: gator cdrom I read about a cdrom called the "Gator" in the FAQ. What is the approximate cost of the Gator? Double vs quad speed? Is it widely available? Thanks From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 2 13:10:11 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10998; Fri, 2 Jun 95 13:10:11 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05182; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 12:59:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 12:58:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mindvox.phantom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA05172; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 12:58:58 -0400 Received: (from alster@localhost) by mindvox.phantom.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) id MAA28424; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 12:53:44 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 12:53:43 -0400 (EDT) From: taoster! Subject: Linux Xconfig for 755ce To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9506021613.AA18021@karma.rns.com.rns.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I managed to install Linux on a 755ce over NFS using just a set of root/boot disks I made. Anyone have an Xconfig file for a 755ce.. ...? http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 2 15:34:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21103; Fri, 2 Jun 95 15:34:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18337; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 15:21:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 15:21:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from merle.acns.nwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA18316; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 15:21:57 -0400 Received: by merle.acns.nwu.edu (1.37.109.16/20.3) id AA032770910; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 14:21:50 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 14:21:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Conrad Albrecht-Buehler Subject: Linux XF86Config for X5XCs? To: taoster! Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I can't get any of the info for the Dual-scan screens for my config. Could someone mail me theirs? see ya. --Conrad Conrad Albrecht-Buehler Northwestern University conrada-b@nwu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 2 16:14:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24138; Fri, 2 Jun 95 16:14:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21808; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 16:04:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 16:04:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blob.best.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA21797; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 16:04:44 -0400 From: Received: from shell1.best.com (shell1.best.com [204.156.128.10]) by blob.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA10830 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 13:03:44 -0700 Received: from 204.156.137.12 (sandy.vip.best.com [204.156.137.12]) by shell1.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA07408 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 13:04:16 -0700 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 13:04:16 -0700 Message-Id: <199506022004.NAA07408@shell1.best.com> Subject: * FOR SALE * 8Mb Memory Card for ThinkPad 755 series To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) ** FOR SALE ** 8Mb IC DRAM Memory Card for ThinkPad 755 series. - Brand-new in original box - includes Full Warranty and manual - Tested, but not used - Perfect condition - Made in USA by Simple Technology - Part# STM-TP755/8 It's too long a story to go into much detail, but I bought this 8Mb IC DRAM card several weeks ago for my new 755CX and decided to add a 16MB card instead (same manufacturer). So, I have an extra 8Mb memory card available, new in the box, in perfect working condition. It's worth more, but I'll take ** $299 ** for it. I'm located in Cupertino, CA, but will ship it anywhere in the U.S. via UPS COD. Send email or call me at the number below. Thank you. _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +-----.oOOo--()--oOOo.-------+ | InterNet: sandy@sandy.com | | Telephone: 408-257-5383 | | 9am-9pm daily | +-------------- Oooo.--------+ .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Fri Jun 2 17:39:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00431; Fri, 2 Jun 95 17:39:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28818; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 17:26:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 17:26:55 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from nbslib.isc-br.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA28802; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 17:26:53 -0400 Received: from cbinfradn by nbslib.isc-br.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0sHe3f-0001KyC; Fri, 2 Jun 95 14:15 PDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Jun 95 14:15 PDT X-Sender: doylen@nbslib X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: doylen@nbslib.isc-br.com (Doyle Nickless) Subject: Subscribe-Request I'd like to subscribe to your mailing list but am unsure of the format required. Thanks, Doyle Nickless doylen@nbslib.isc-br.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 3 01:11:26 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28058; Sat, 3 Jun 95 01:11:26 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26644; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 00:59:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 00:59:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA26633; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 00:59:40 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA01500; Sat, 3 Jun 95 01:00:28 -0400 Date: Sat, 3 Jun 95 01:00:28 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9506030500.AA01500@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, sandy@sandy.com Subject: Re: * FOR SALE * 8Mb Memory Card for ThinkPad 755 series For reference, here are the prices I see for memory at the moment: 4MB $199 8MB $379 16MB $669 32MB $1399 (these are from FSI, but are similar to prices advertised elsewhere) I am *still* looking for 32 meg DIMS, I begin to believe these are science fiction :-( From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 3 12:59:12 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA01504; Sat, 3 Jun 95 12:59:12 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12670; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 12:50:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 12:50:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from merle.acns.nwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA12660; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 12:50:09 -0400 Received: from conrad.res-hall.nwu.edu by merle.acns.nwu.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.16/20.3) id AA137368207; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 11:50:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199506031650.AA137368207@merle.acns.nwu.edu> X-Sender: sting@merle.acns.nwu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 03 Jun 1995 11:47:35 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: conrada-b@nwu.edu (Conrad H Albrecht-Buehler) Subject: Thinkpad Dual-Scan C'mon! Please! Could some one send me the bandwidth, Horiz-sync, and Vert-sync frequencies for the 10" Dual-scans? I'm beggin' here! I need X running in the next week, and I can't if I can't run the screen. see ya. --Conrad -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- conrada-b@nwu.edu "You know, my father only gave me one piece of advice. He said, 'Son, don't ever get married; go to sea.'" --Sting From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sat Jun 3 17:53:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12851; Sat, 3 Jun 95 17:53:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27386; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 17:32:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 17:32:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from merle.acns.nwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA27369; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 17:32:11 -0400 Received: from conrad.res-hall.nwu.edu by merle.acns.nwu.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.16/20.3) id AA086965128; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 16:32:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199506032132.AA086965128@merle.acns.nwu.edu> X-Sender: sting@merle.acns.nwu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 03 Jun 1995 16:29:35 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: conrada-b@nwu.edu (Conrad H Albrecht-Buehler) Subject: tpdualscan.c(was: Dual-Scan) Well, I've gotten the stupid settigns down, and have run Mr. Steiner's tpdualscan, and LO and BEHOLD, the stupid thing still comes out doubled. Can anyone help me, here? see ya. --Conrad -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- conrada-b@nwu.edu "You know, my father only gave me one piece of advice. He said, 'Son, don't ever get married; go to sea.'" --Sting From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Sun Jun 4 13:45:49 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00375; Sun, 4 Jun 95 13:45:49 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08771; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 13:33:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 13:33:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from hillfoot.cent.gla.ac.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA08761; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 13:33:47 -0400 Received: from hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk by hillfoot.cent.gla.ac.uk with SMTP-GLA (PP); Sun, 4 Jun 1995 18:33:43 +0100 Received: from music.gla.ac.uk (actually host flute.music.gla.ac.uk) by hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Sun, 4 Jun 1995 18:33:35 +0100 Received: from clave by music.gla.ac.uk (NX5.67c/NX3.0M) id AA07349; Sun, 4 Jun 95 18:33:34 +0100 From: Jonathan Marshall - EMU91 Message-Id: <9506041733.AA07349@music.gla.ac.uk> Received: by clave.music.gla.ac.uk (NX5.67c/NX3.0X) id AA00914; Sun, 4 Jun 95 18:33:33 +0100 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 95 18:33:33 +0100 Original-Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.87.1) Pp-Warning: Illegal Received field on preceding line Original-Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.87.1) Pp-Warning: Illegal Received field on preceding line To: ThinkPad 750 mailing list Subject: PCMCIA Modems Does anyone know where I can purchase just the PCMCIA card for the IBM High Speed Data/Fax Modem as my one has been stolen. I have all the cables, manuals and software I just need the actual card. Also if anyone wants to sell me any brand of PCMCIA modem please email me. Thankx in advance Jon - jmarshal@music.gla.ac.uk From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 5 01:17:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24370; Mon, 5 Jun 95 01:17:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02871; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 01:08:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 01:08:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from merle.acns.nwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA02861; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 01:08:28 -0400 Received: from conrad.res-hall.nwu.edu by merle.acns.nwu.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.16/20.3) id AA122048905; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 00:08:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199506050508.AA122048905@merle.acns.nwu.edu> X-Sender: sting@merle.acns.nwu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 00:05:47 -0500 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: conrada-b@nwu.edu (Conrad H Albrecht-Buehler) Subject: Thanks (was: tpdualscan.c) Well, FINALLY I got the dual scan to work with X. a little hacking did the trick. Thanks to Kevin Cheong, Sean Chou, and allt he others who gave me a hand this weekend. Aand a BIG thank you to Michael Steiner for great fix. I'm sorry to have taken up a couple slots in people's mailboxes. Thanks again all. see ya. --Conrad -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- conrada-b@nwu.edu "You know, my father only gave me one piece of advice. He said, 'Son, don't ever get married; go to sea.'" --Sting From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 5 03:53:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16154; Mon, 5 Jun 95 03:53:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09344; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 03:45:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 03:45:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kitten.mcs.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA09318; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 03:45:34 -0400 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA27235 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 02:45:30 -0500 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Mon, 5 Jun 95 02:17 CDT Received: by falkor.chi.il.us (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Sun, 04 Jun 95 22:24:09 CDT for kyeanopl@amazon.den.mmc.com To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Warp & APM (was SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp) From: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us (Ron Heiby) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 04 Jun 95 22:21:31 CDT In-Reply-To: <9505302055.AA00773@amazon.den.mmc.com> Organization: DML, Inc., Buffalo Grove, IL I can verify that Suspend on a TP755CE must not be done on AC power, if you want it to work at all. I can also verify that once you have gone into Suspend mode and come out and are back on AC power, that the TP755CE still feels that it is appropriate to blank the screen after a few minutes of inactivity. At least, this isn't as bad as the 750C, which spun down the HD under the same circumstances. I haven't tried Hibernation with the 755CE, having given up on it after buying the PCMCIA modem for my 750C over a year ago. Now, I don't feel that it's worth the 25Meg of disk space that it would need for my system. Ron. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 5 06:35:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25438; Mon, 5 Jun 95 06:35:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA20249; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 06:25:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 06:25:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from cssu46.cs.ust.hk by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA20154; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 06:25:06 -0400 Received: from cssg13.cs.ust.hk (ejd@cssg13.cs.ust.hk [143.89.40.183]) by cssu46.cs.ust.hk (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA18506 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 18:23:34 +0800 Received: (from ejd@localhost) by cssg13.cs.ust.hk (8.6.10/8.6.9) id SAA25176 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 18:23:25 +0800 From: "Dr. E. Joseph Derrick" Message-Id: <199506051023.SAA25176@cssg13.cs.ust.hk> Subject: battery managment under 755Cs--problems To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 18:23:24 +0800 (HDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone, Just a quick question to see if any of you have experienced this. While running under Windows/DOS and on two occasions now while doing a refresh discharge and subsequent charge, I have had my power managment software obtrusively disabled, and not by me. The battery icon becomes a dotted-line figure with no indication of current charge or capacity status. Attempts to call the fuel feature from Thinkpad features group gets the error message that the fuel program is disabled. To enable it, you are told to run the setup from DOS in the Windows directory and select DOS system with APM... this does work, but doesn't require any real change, DOS with APM is already selected. Can anyone explain what is happening here? It is quite disconcerting when trying to keep the battery life, and fuel readouts consistent with battery capacity and status and warning alarms... that is, to keep the fuel gauge system and warning beeps working and giving believable reports. I know that I can't be the only one that has trouble with these features. It's only a little thing, but can be a source of frustration. ------------------ By the way, I might mention a "tip" that the IBM help center gave me last year. My battery "time remaining" will often get out of sync with capacity and readout of the fuel gauge and the warning beeps. For example, system will start beeping that the battery is on it's last legs when in fact, the readout says there is 50% left. I realize that part of the problem is that my battery is degrading over time. But anyway, the tip is essentially to remove the battery, turn off the switch momentarily and then back on. When putting back in, immediately do discharge followed by charge. Parameters on the fuel gage and the warning beeps are then back in "sync" for a time. The warning beeps don't come on until battery capacity is down near the low end as would be expected. If you just do a discharge and charge, that seems to help a little but not quite as well as first cycling the battery switch. The switch "cycling" seems to straighten things out, but I wonder if I it wise to follow this procedure. Perhaps someone can comment. Regards and thanks, Joe ejd@cs.ust.hk From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 5 07:46:55 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29366; Mon, 5 Jun 95 07:46:55 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23737; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 07:40:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 07:40:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA23716; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 07:40:32 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA01210; Mon, 5 Jun 95 07:41:22 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 95 07:41:22 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9506051141.AA01210@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Warp & APM (was SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp) I have noticed these same suspend problems (must not be done on AC power and when it comes back up, still thinks it is battery mode from point of view of powering down disk and screen, even though AC is plugged in) on both my 755CD and 755CX. Have not even tried hibernation (not worth 41 meg of disk space!) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 5 09:44:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11621; Mon, 5 Jun 95 09:44:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00156; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 09:36:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 09:36:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from gl.ciw.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA00145; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 09:36:46 -0400 Received: from [192.70.249.43] (mac43.ciw.edu) by gl.ciw.edu (4.1/1.6) id AA20350; Mon, 5 Jun 95 09:36:41 EDT Message-Id: <9506051336.AA20350@gl.ciw.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 09:46:31 +0100 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Subject: Re: Warp & APM (was SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp) >I have noticed these same suspend problems (must not be done on AC power >and when it comes back up, still thinks it is battery mode from point >of view of powering down disk and screen, even though AC is plugged in) >on both my 755CD and 755CX. Have not even tried hibernation (not worth >41 meg of disk space!) Either I have a blessed installation (by either accident or devine will, not by design), or the TP750 mono is not as sensitive to these things as the other tp's. I have none of the mentioned problems. The only thing I havn't tried is powering up with the battery, hibernating, pulling the battery, plugging in, and waking. All other combinations either work or aren't allowed (i.e. I can't hibernate if I boot without the battery in place). ---------------------------- Victor Kress Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Road N.W. Washington, D.C. 20015-1305 (202) 686-2410 x2489 --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 5 12:12:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00309; Mon, 5 Jun 95 12:12:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10095; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 12:01:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 12:01:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA10077; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 12:01:21 -0400 From: Received: from sol.lssec.bt.co.uk by zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 5 Jun 1995 16:45:39 +0100 Received: from lssec.bt.co.uk by sol.lssec.bt.co.uk with SMTP (PP) id <02269-0@sol.lssec.bt.co.uk>; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 16:46:12 +0100 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 16:46:09 +0100 Message-Id: <6125.9506051546@bohinj.lssec.bt.co.uk> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Newbie alert - price/upgrade advice Cc: rmasters@lssec.bt.co.uk X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII > Please introduce yourself! Tell us what kind of machine you have, > how it's configured (how much memory/disk, what accessories, etc.), > and what operating system(s) you are using. (send this to the LIST > address -- don't just reply to this message!) Um, I haven't got one. Basically I've been looking for a notepad to run Linux on to use as a mobile WWW server / browser for demos, and the odd think pad has cropped up for sale. Currently I'm toying with buying a s/h 750Cs 20MB RAM 200MB (170MB surely) HD for 1000 pounds sterling. Anyone want to comment if that's a good price or not? I really want the RAM but I'd probably get a bigger HD. Originally I was offered a 50Mhz machine (I forget which one) and an MCA one (no good to me) and I'm a bit concerned about the speed of the 750. I had a wade through the archives but couldn't see a definitive answer to "Can I upgrade the CPU or make it go faster some other way?" If anyone could help I'd appreciate it. As for me, I'm a System and S/W Engineer for BT, in London, UK. I'm not that knowledgeable on PCs esp. portables as a) that's hardware b) that's not primarily Unix hardware. Cheers, Robb ________________________________________________________________________________ | Robb Masters | Systems & Software Engineer BT D&P SSI BSEC CEC | CEC home page (BT only) - http://www.lssec.bt.co.uk:8080/ ____________________|___________________________________________________________ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 5 12:28:45 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA01495; Mon, 5 Jun 95 12:28:45 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14359; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 12:19:50 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 12:19:49 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA14337; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 12:19:47 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA02780; Mon, 5 Jun 95 12:19:20 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 95 12:19:20 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9506051619.AA02780@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: rmasters@lssec.bt.co.uk, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Newbie alert - price/upgrade advice the 750CPU is not upgradable From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 5 14:12:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09773; Mon, 5 Jun 95 14:12:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15336; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 13:57:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 13:57:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from deneb.dfn.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA15308; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 13:57:36 -0400 Received: from unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (rzgw.rz.fh-hannover.de) by deneb.dfn.de (4.1/SMI-4.2) id AA14178; Mon, 5 Jun 95 19:55:37 +0200 Received: from bidnix.bid.fh-hannover.de by unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA31570; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 19:56:56 +0100 Received: by bidnix.bid.fh-hannover.de (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0sIgMi-000DNPC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 19:55 MET DST Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 19:55:04 +0200 (MET DST) From: Hanno Wagner To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Newbie alert - New Thinkpad... In-Reply-To: <6125.9506051546@bohinj.lssec.bt.co.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, On Mon, 5 Jun 1995 rmasters@lssec.bt.co.uk wrote: > Please introduce yourself! Tell us what kind of machine you have, > how it's configured (how much memory/disk, what accessories, etc.), > and what operating system(s) you are using. (send this to the LIST > address -- don't just reply to this message!) at the moment, I don't even have a thinkpad. My new laptop is ordered, it will be one of the new ThinkPad 370 with a i486 DX4 / 75 , 12 MB RAM and 540 MB Hard Disk Space. I want to install three operating systems: First OS/2 as a 'normal' operating system; second LinuX for my Internet stuff and the hunts for it, and third DOS and Windows 3.11. I think I will have difficults with linux, but I think I will manage it. read you later, Hanno -- Hanno Wagner, Student der Fachhochschule Hannover, Fachbereich IK email: wagner@www.bid.fh-hannover.de URL: http://www.bid.fh-hannover.de:8080/~wagner/ IRC: Rince (usually on #germany or #muenster or #braunschweig) "This is also a story about sex and drugs and Music With Rocks In. Well... ...one out of three ain't bad." From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 5 15:48:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14071; Mon, 5 Jun 95 15:48:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14911; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 15:35:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 15:35:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA14889; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 15:35:53 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0399; Mon, 05 Jun 95 15:30:14 -0400 Message-Id: <9506051930.AA0399@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id FE91979F277AE8EF852561D2006B0850; Mon, 5 Jun 95 15:30:07 To: rmasters , tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 5 Jun 95 15:30:53 Subject: 750Cs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain The only 50MHz Thinkpads (I believe) are the 500 (subnotebook & not very upgradable) and the 755C, which is a fantastic laptop, but $7000+. The 750Cs is a steal at 1000 pounds IF it's fast enough to suit your needs for a while. It's a $4000 laptop with only 4MB RAM (add $1100 if it's an IBM IC DRAM card, $700-$800 if it's OEM) . The display is dual scan color, which is limited to 256 color support: not the greatest, but it is color & it's a 9.5" display. I don't know about the 200MB HDD. I believe they only come in 170 & 340, and to go beyond that you would need to send it to IBM for a BIOS upgrade (or go with a PCMCIA drive). The processor is not upgradable. ___ @( oo )@ ( .. ) Michael J. Verne mverne@vmedia.com "Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man that he didn't already have." To: tp750 @ CS.UTK.EDU @ INET cc: rmasters @ lssec.bt.co.uk @ INET (bcc: Michael Verne/VENTANA) From: rmasters @ lssec.bt.co.uk @ INET Date: 06/05/95 04:46:09 PM Subject: Newbie alert - price/upgrade advice Currently I'm toying with buying a s/h 750Cs 20MB RAM 200MB (170MB surely) HD for 1000 pounds sterling. Anyone want to comment if that's a good price or not? I really want the RAM but I'd probably get a bigger HD. Originally I was offered a 50Mhz machine (I forget which one) and an MCA one (no good to me) and I'm a bit concerned about the speed of the 750. I had a wade through the archives but couldn't see a definitive answer to "Can I upgrade the CPU or make it go faster some other way?" If anyone could help I'd appreciate it. As for me, I'm a System and S/W Engineer for BT, in London, UK. I'm not that knowledgeable on PCs esp. portables as a) that's hardware b) that's not primarily Unix hardware. Cheers, Robb ________________________________________________________________________________ | Robb Masters | Systems & Software Engineer BT D&P SSI BSEC CEC | CEC home page (BT only) - http://www.lssec.bt.co.uk:8080/ ____________________|___________________________________________________________ From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 5 17:38:38 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20083; Mon, 5 Jun 95 17:38:38 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10994; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 17:29:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 17:29:40 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA10981; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 17:29:37 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id OAA07861; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 14:29:34 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id OAA02232; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 14:29:34 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199506052129.OAA02232@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Warp & APM (was SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp) To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu (Victor Kress) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 14:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9506051336.AA20350@gl.ciw.edu> from "Victor Kress" at Jun 5, 95 09:46:31 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >I have noticed these same suspend problems (must not be done on AC power > >and when it comes back up, still thinks it is battery mode from point > >of view of powering down disk and screen, even though AC is plugged in) > >on both my 755CD and 755CX. Have not even tried hibernation (not worth > >41 meg of disk space!) > > Either I have a blessed installation (by either accident or devine will, > not by design), or the TP750 mono is not as sensitive to these things as > the other tp's. I have none of the mentioned problems. The only thing I > havn't tried is powering up with the battery, hibernating, pulling the > battery, plugging in, and waking. All other combinations either work or > aren't allowed (i.e. I can't hibernate if I boot without the battery in > place). Victor--I'm with you. I don't know what these people are talking about, but my 750C doesn't exhibit any of the above-mentioned problems. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 5 17:46:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21053; Mon, 5 Jun 95 17:46:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11620; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 17:40:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 17:40:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA11590; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 17:39:58 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id RAA07885; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 17:39:56 -0400 Message-Id: <199506052139.RAA07885@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: is there interest in a thinkpad unix list? Cc: moore@CS.UTK.EDU From: Keith Moore Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 17:39:50 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU Seeing the interest on this list in using various flavors of UNIX-like systems (especially *BSD, Linux) I'm wondering if there's enough interest in UNIX-on-a-thinkpad for a separate list. Relevant topics might include XFree86 setup, pcmcia setup, power management, etc., all under UNIX. I would expect the list to be heavily biased toward "free" UNIXen, but those who use commercial UNIX ports would probably be tolerated as well. Please send mail to moore@cs.utk.edu if you're interested in such a list, and/or have comments on what the list should cover. (e.g. should it be thinkpad-specific or should it apply to all x86 laptops running unix?) (I won't create such a list until I have a better idea of what might fly...) Keith From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 5 18:39:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24263; Mon, 5 Jun 95 18:39:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15062; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 18:31:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 18:31:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA15052; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 18:31:35 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sIkgS-0004tnC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 17:31 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sIkgS-0002nbC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 17:31 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sIkgP-0002wvC; Mon, 5 Jun 95 17:31 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Warp & APM (was SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp) To: whittle@chaph.usc.edu (Randal Whittle) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 17:31:41 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <199506052129.OAA02232@aludra.usc.edu> from "Randal Whittle" at Jun 5, 95 02:29:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Victor--I'm with you. I don't know what these people are talking > about, but my 750C doesn't exhibit any of the above-mentioned problems. > > ----- ___________________________ > Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | > Randy, I didn't think that you were using OS/2.... I agree that under windows / DOS these problems have been resolved. You can thank Ron Heiby and others for their persistence in bugging IBM. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 5 19:23:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25841; Mon, 5 Jun 95 19:23:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17104; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 19:13:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 19:13:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17092; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 19:13:39 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA04363; Mon, 5 Jun 95 19:14:29 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 95 19:14:29 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9506052314.AA04363@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: moore@CS.UTK.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: is there interest in a thinkpad unix list? i prefer it be kept all one list From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 5 19:23:04 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25846; Mon, 5 Jun 95 19:23:04 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17272; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 19:15:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 19:15:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17253; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 19:15:11 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA04402; Mon, 5 Jun 95 19:15:58 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 95 19:15:58 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9506052315.AA04402@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: strat@dsd.northrop.com, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: Warp & APM (was SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU oh yes, of course we are talking only about Warp, note that this was always clear from the title. Those messing with Windows will not be affected. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 5 19:23:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26051; Mon, 5 Jun 95 19:23:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17085; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 19:13:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 19:13:27 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA17073; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 19:13:25 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA04355; Mon, 5 Jun 95 19:14:10 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 95 19:14:10 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9506052314.AA04355@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu, whittle@chaph.usc.edu Subject: Re: Warp & APM (was SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU note that of course to see these problems at all (the suspend problems) you have to have different settings in the battery and AC profiles. zdp From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 5 20:37:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00261; Mon, 5 Jun 95 20:37:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22821; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 20:32:17 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 20:32:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mailhost.primenet.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA22811; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 20:32:14 -0400 Received: from usr2.primenet.com (usr2.primenet.com [198.68.32.12]) by mailhost.primenet.com (8.6.11/wjp-h2.0) with ESMTP id RAA15701 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 17:32:04 -0700 Received: (bogrow@localhost) by usr2.primenet.com (8.6.11/wjp-c2.0) id RAA06115; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 17:32:02 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 17:32:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Bogrow To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Is there a TP701 list? In-Reply-To: <9506052314.AA04363@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a mailing list for the Model 701 Thinkpad? Paul Bogrow bogrow@primenet.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 5 20:45:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00373; Mon, 5 Jun 95 20:45:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23489; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 20:41:59 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 20:41:58 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23479; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 20:41:54 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 20:40:38 -29900 From: retsla Subject: Re: is there interest in a thinkpad unix list? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9506052314.AA04363@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: > i prefer it be kept all one list > me too ...even when discussion gets heavy ...traffic is pretty light http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 5 20:46:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00383; Mon, 5 Jun 95 20:46:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23623; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 20:43:16 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 20:43:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA23585; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 20:43:09 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 20:41:53 -29900 From: retsla Subject: Re: Is there a TP701 list? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Paul Bogrow wrote: > Is there a mailing list for the Model 701 Thinkpad? Hrmm....let's rename the list to tp7xx ? http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 5 21:19:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA03177; Mon, 5 Jun 95 21:19:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25374; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 21:11:57 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 21:11:56 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA25364; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 21:11:55 -0400 Received: from p25.slip.net (sfsp95.slip.net [204.160.88.159]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA04098 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 18:11:35 -0700 Message-Id: <199506060111.SAA04098@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 18:11:37 -0700 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: ADMIN: is there interest in a thinkpad unix list? At 08:40 PM 6/5/95 -29900, retsla wrote: >On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: >> i prefer it be kept all one list >me too ...even when discussion gets heavy ...traffic is pretty light I agree too, with the addition that subject keywords can make it more reasonable.. OS2: LINUX: ADMIN: etc.. ____________________________________________________________________ http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 5 21:54:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07318; Mon, 5 Jun 95 21:54:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27486; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 21:47:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 21:47:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from baijuyi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA27475; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 21:47:05 -0400 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by baijuyi (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id JAA23953; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 09:44:44 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199506060144.JAA23953@baijuyi> Subject: ADMIN: is there interest in a thinkpad unix list? (fwd) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 09:44:44 +0800 (WAUST) Cc: moore@CS.UTK.EDU Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text ``..jesse montrose writes, ` Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 18:11:37 -0700 ` ` At 08:40 PM 6/5/95 -29900, retsla wrote: ` >On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: ` >> i prefer it be kept all one list ` >me too ...even when discussion gets heavy ...traffic is pretty light ` ` I agree too, with the addition that subject keywords can make it more ` reasonable.. ` OS2: ` LINUX: ` ADMIN: I had earlier supported the creation of the new list. If it was only pertaining to Unix on a Thinkpad then the above "keyword" addition to the current TP750 list would be great! Traffic is indeed light.. However if it catered to other x86 laptops (as was mentioned in the original post) then cluttering up this list wth non-TP stuff is not a good idea. Traffic in the new list could be more. If the intention is also to include other x86 laptops then maybe the suggetstion of the new list should also be posted in the appropriate newsgroups and not only in this list. Cheers (: ____________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 5 22:17:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08436; Mon, 5 Jun 95 22:17:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28785; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 22:10:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 22:10:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blob.best.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA28774; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 22:10:43 -0400 From: Received: from shell1.best.com (shell1.best.com [204.156.128.10]) by blob.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA01582 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 19:09:55 -0700 Received: from 204.156.137.12 (sandy.vip.best.com [204.156.137.12]) by shell1.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA14188 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 19:10:14 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 19:10:14 -0700 Message-Id: <199506060210.TAA14188@shell1.best.com> Subject: ThinkPad "Next Generation" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) Hello all, I couldn't help noticing the first line of Rich Malloy's editorial comments (page 6) in the new issue of Mobile Office magazine (July'95) which I received in the mail today: "As I write this, I am heading for a two-day meeting with IBM to learn about the next generation of ThinkPads." "Next Generation"?? Has anyone heard ANYTHING about what IBM is working on for these next generation ThinkPads? Are they about to release a complete new line of ThinkPads or is this some long term plan for release in the years to come? Sure made me curious that IBM is apparently meeting with computer magazine editors to discuss future products. Companies don't do this unless something big is in the works and getting ready for some massive marketing campaign in the very near future. I just want to know if I should return my "old" 755CX before the 30-day refund period is up and wait for the "next generation"? ;-) _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +-----.oOOo--()--oOOo.-------+ | InterNet : sandy@sandy.com | +-------------- Oooo.--------+ .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Mon Jun 5 23:19:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10441; Mon, 5 Jun 95 23:19:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02470; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 23:11:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 23:11:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from blob.best.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id XAA02459; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 23:11:09 -0400 From: Received: from shell1.best.com (shell1.best.com [204.156.128.10]) by blob.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA03172 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 20:10:22 -0700 Received: from 204.156.137.12 (sandy.vip.best.com [204.156.137.12]) by shell1.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA25690 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 20:10:41 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 20:10:41 -0700 Message-Id: <199506060310.UAA25690@shell1.best.com> Subject: Re: ThinkPad "Next Generation" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) >any thinkpad you buy is always old quickly, I am sure by the end of the >year there will be 120MHz Pentium thinkpads. I have read recently that Intel is producing the 90Mhz Pentium in the new TCP package (being used in Toshiba's new Protege), but plans to skip a 100Mhz version and go directly to a 120Mhz version. So, it's possible we will see a 120Mhz Pentium ThinkPad before the end of the year. I only wish I had enough money to keep up with the new technology. What happen to the "good old days" when it took 18-months to develop and market new computer products? :-) _\//__ --Sandy / _ _ \ ( @ @ ) +-----.oOOo--()--oOOo.-------+ | InterNet : sandy@sandy.com | +-------------- Oooo.--------+ .oooO ( ) ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 00:49:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14166; Tue, 6 Jun 95 00:49:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08371; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 00:40:32 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 00:40:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA08326; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 00:40:13 -0400 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA12445; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 23:40:05 -0500 Message-Id: <9506060440.AA12445@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Date: Tue, 06 Jun 95 00:41:34 EDT From: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (John H. Kim) Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu (John H. Kim) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.0 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: Re: Is there a TP701 list? >> Is there a mailing list for the Model 701 Thinkpad? > >Hrmm....let's rename the list to tp7xx ? It might be time for a comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad group. I just went through the new newsgroup creation process for a couple fishing groups and except for the time to write a proposal and monitor news.groups, it isn't all that difficult. I have all the FAQs and guides for creating a newsgroup if anyone is willing to take it up. I'd do it except I have plenty of other things to occupy my time. How many members does this mailing list have anyway? _______________________________________________________________________ |\ ______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like | | | jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes." | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 01:41:02 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16042; Tue, 6 Jun 95 01:41:02 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10293; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 01:32:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 01:32:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10283; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 01:32:41 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id WAA24887; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 22:32:39 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id WAA29157; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 22:32:39 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199506060532.WAA29157@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Warp & APM (was SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp) To: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 22:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Scott Stratmoen" at Jun 5, 95 05:31:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > Victor--I'm with you. I don't know what these people are talking > > about, but my 750C doesn't exhibit any of the above-mentioned problems. > > > > ----- ___________________________ > > Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | > > > > Randy, I didn't think that you were using OS/2.... I agree that under > windows / DOS these problems have been resolved. You can thank Ron Heiby > and others for their persistence in bugging IBM. Duh...oh man, I feel pretty stupid right now. The fact that this was an OS/2 issue escaped me! ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 01:45:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16262; Tue, 6 Jun 95 01:45:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10522; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 01:38:13 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 01:38:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10510; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 01:38:10 -0400 Received: from p27.slip.net (sfsp93.slip.net [204.160.88.161]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA28453; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 22:38:04 -0700 Message-Id: <199506060538.WAA28453@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 22:38:04 -0700 To: , TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: ThinkPad "Next Generation" At 07:10 PM 6/5/95 -0700, sandy@sandy.com wrote: >I just want to know if I should return my "old" 755CX before the >30-day refund period is up and wait for the "next generation"? ;-) I think you should skip "the next generation" thinkpad as well, wait for the "Voyager". Oh come on.. if I hadn't, someone else would've... ____________________________________________________________________ http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 01:56:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16654; Tue, 6 Jun 95 01:56:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10998; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 01:47:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 01:47:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA10988; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 01:47:46 -0400 Received: from p27.slip.net (sfsp93.slip.net [204.160.88.161]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA29533 for ; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 22:47:42 -0700 Message-Id: <199506060547.WAA29533@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 22:47:42 -0700 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: ADMIN: move to usenet (was Re: Is there a TP701 list?) At 12:41 AM 6/6/95 EDT, John H. Kim wrote: >It might be time for a comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad group. I just went >through the new newsgroup creation process for a couple fishing groups >and except for the time to write a proposal and monitor news.groups, >it isn't all that difficult. I have all the FAQs and guides for >creating a newsgroup if anyone is willing to take it up. I'd do it >except I have plenty of other things to occupy my time. I am against moving to usenet, personally. This list has one of the highest signal to noise ratios of any list/newsgroup I've seen, and I'd hate to see that change. ____________________________________________________________________ http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 02:57:16 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19721; Tue, 6 Jun 95 02:57:16 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13055; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 02:48:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 02:48:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chorus.chorus.fr by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA13040; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 02:47:59 -0400 Received: from octave.chorus.fr by chorus.chorus.fr; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:47:47 +0200 Received: from localhost.chorus.fr by octave.chorus.fr; Tue, 6 Jun 95 08:47:46 +0200 Message-Id: <9506060647.AA03493@octave.chorus.fr> To: Keith Moore Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: is there interest in a thinkpad unix list? In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 05 Jun 95 17:39:50 -0400. <199506052139.RAA07885@wilma.cs.utk.edu> Date: Tue, 06 Jun 95 08:47:46 +0200 From: -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Keith, It's now been a few months since I subscribed to this list. I am quite happy with it. My primary interest is LinuX on Thinkpad. I would greatly appreciate a separate list. I think I am not alone in this situation, lots of other people are interested and don't read any mail related with DOS, OS/2 or Windows. But why shouldn't we vote on your proposal ? -------------------------------------------------------------------- St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | Th'eorique et Programmation | 2 place Jussieu | 75251 Paris cedex 05 | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 06:01:44 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29403; Tue, 6 Jun 95 06:01:44 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA25695; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 05:55:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 05:55:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA25683; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 05:55:50 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA07927; Tue, 6 Jun 95 05:56:31 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 95 05:56:31 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9506060956.AA07927@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: eranian@chorus.fr, moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: is there interest in a thinkpad unix list? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU the trouble with separate lists is that threads wander, and easily cross list boundaries, so you miss useful stuff. This is a very low volume list in any case, so I really don't see any point in splitting it. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 06:01:43 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29402; Tue, 6 Jun 95 06:01:43 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA25722; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 05:56:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 05:56:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA25712; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 05:56:41 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA08461; Tue, 6 Jun 95 05:57:28 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 95 05:57:28 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9506060957.AA08461@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: eranian@chorus.fr, moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: is there interest in a thinkpad unix list? Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU the other problem with splitting it is that there are many posts that are independent of OS, e.g. mechanical problems part numbers of upgrades bios problems etc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 07:50:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06794; Tue, 6 Jun 95 07:50:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29494; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 07:33:37 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 07:33:36 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from tequesta.gate.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA29484; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 07:33:33 -0400 Received: from seminole.gate.net (jbush@seminole.gate.net [199.227.0.14]) by tequesta.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA52426; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 07:33:28 -0400 Received: (from jbush@localhost) by seminole.gate.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id HAA24196; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 07:30:31 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 07:30:31 -0400 (EDT) From: James Bush To: -------------------------------------------------------------------- Cc: Keith Moore , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: is there interest in a thinkpad unix list? In-Reply-To: <9506060647.AA03493@octave.chorus.fr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII and how do you know what all people read? ***************************************** On Tue, 6 Jun 1995, -------------------------------------------------------------------- wrote: > > Hi Keith, > > It's now been a few months since I subscribed to this list. I am quite happy > with it. My primary interest is LinuX on Thinkpad. I would greatly appreciate > a separate list. I think I am not alone in this situation, lots of other > people are interested and don't read any mail related with DOS, OS/2 or > Windows. > But why shouldn't we vote on your proposal ? > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > St'ephane ERANIAN | Email eranian@chorus.fr > Universit'e PARIS VII | eranian@litp.ibp.fr > LITP - Laboratoire d'Informatique | > Th'eorique et Programmation | > 2 place Jussieu | > 75251 Paris cedex 05 | > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 08:02:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07820; Tue, 6 Jun 95 08:02:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00270; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 07:49:48 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 07:49:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA00258; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 07:49:46 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 07:48:49 -0400 (EDT) From: retsla X-Sender: alster@alster.port.net To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a TP701 list? In-Reply-To: <9506060440.AA12445@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 6 Jun 1995, John H. Kim wrote: > >> Is there a mailing list for the Model 701 Thinkpad? > > > >Hrmm....let's rename the list to tp7xx ? > > It might be time for a comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad group. I just went > through the new newsgroup creation process for a couple fishing groups > and except for the time to write a proposal and monitor news.groups, > it isn't all that difficult. I have all the FAQs and guides for > creating a newsgroup if anyone is willing to take it up. I'd do it > except I have plenty of other things to occupy my time. NO! This group seems pretty small ....the traffic is really light... even when discussion is heavy (...as I've said before)...this is really a niche group and really does not call for a newsgroup. In addition, there's also the fact that news just isn't all that reliable and not everyone will get every message. Mail is much more reliable. http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 08:16:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08341; Tue, 6 Jun 95 08:16:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01016; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:04:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:04:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01006; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:04:00 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:03:04 -0400 (EDT) From: retsla X-Sender: alster@alster.port.net To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: is there interest in a thinkpad unix list? In-Reply-To: <9506060647.AA03493@octave.chorus.fr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 6 Jun 1995, -------------------------------------------------------------------- wrote: > It's now been a few months since I subscribed to this list. I am quite happy > with it. My primary interest is LinuX on Thinkpad. I would greatly appreciate > a separate list. I think I am not alone in this situation, lots of other > people are interested and don't read any mail related with DOS, OS/2 or > Windows. Well, ....actually, I feel that there have been very few Windows questions and a lot more questions regarding Linux and OS/2. And even more about the Thinkpad hardware themselves, ...which is what the list is about, afterall!! It's definitely more helpful for everyone to be part of this already small group rather than to break it down further. For example, discussion about an OS often drifts into a discussion about the hardware...etc... This list is definitely more useful now than if it was split up into: comp.sys.thinkpad.hardware --- comp.sys.thinkpad.windows | comp.sys.thinkpad.dos --- This would be _ridiculous_ !! comp.sys.thinkpad.os2 | comp.sys.thinkpad.linux --- http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 08:16:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08349; Tue, 6 Jun 95 08:16:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01147; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:07:01 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:07:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA01137; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:06:58 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:06:02 -0400 (EDT) From: retsla X-Sender: alster@alster.port.net To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: is there interest in a thinkpad unix list? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 6 Jun 1995, -------------------------------------------------------------------- wrote: > It's now been a few months since I subscribed to this list. I am quite happy > with it. My primary interest is LinuX on Thinkpad. I would greatly appreciate > a separate list. I think I am not alone in this situation, lots of other > people are interested and don't read any mail related with DOS, OS/2 or > Windows. Oh yea...one more thing ....have you ever been on a mailing list where you read each and every message and/or every message related to you? I think not....there has to be some overlap. It's normal. http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 08:36:31 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09188; Tue, 6 Jun 95 08:36:31 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02056; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:26:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:26:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02046; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:26:35 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:25:39 -0400 (EDT) From: retsla X-Sender: alster@alster.port.net To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: NT on Thinkpad Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm thinking about installing NT temporarily on my 755ce to use some NT stuff....someone mentioned that NT only supports 16 colors on a Thinkpad? How about NT 3.51? What else should I also be aware of? I realize the MWave stuff is really unlikely to be supported. And...is NT going to be easy to remove? and how? Thanks http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 08:38:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09196; Tue, 6 Jun 95 08:38:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02224; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:30:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:30:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from alster.port.net by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02209; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:30:19 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:29:24 -0400 (EDT) From: retsla X-Sender: alster@alster.port.net To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: is there interest in a thinkpad unix list? In-Reply-To: <9506060956.AA07927@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 6 Jun 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: > the trouble with separate lists is that threads wander, and easily cross > list boundaries, so you miss useful stuff. This is a very low volume > list in any case, so I really don't see any point in splitting it. exactly!! http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 08:55:37 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09826; Tue, 6 Jun 95 08:55:37 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02991; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:46:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:46:12 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02976; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:46:10 -0400 Received: from ppp31.basenet.net (ppp31.basenet.net [204.248.92.31]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id GAA04638; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 06:45:12 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 06:45:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199506061145.GAA04638@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: , tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Subject: Re: ThinkPad "Next Generation" <> >"Next Generation"?? Has anyone heard ANYTHING about what IBM is >working on for these next generation ThinkPads? Are they about to >release a complete new line of ThinkPads or is this some long term >plan for release in the years to come? Sure made me curious that >IBM is apparently meeting with computer magazine editors to discuss >future products. Companies don't do this unless something big is >in the works and getting ready for some massive marketing campaign >in the very near future. > >I just want to know if I should return my "old" 755CX before the >30-day refund period is up and wait for the "next generation"? ;-) Sandy, IMHO if you were able to justify the purchase of your 755CX and need it, the issue of a 'next generation' computer shouldn't concern you. There will always be a 'next generation' computer coming. If you always tried to wait for the latest technology, you end up never buying anything because something better always comes out. If I had to guess why IBM is going to magazine editors, I'd say it's because IBM is still trying to shed the skin of the corporate DP shop mentality where everything is hush-hush until it is ready to roll out, only to find that what was made didn't even come close to what was needed. They have used this technique very successfully in the past when dealing with LAN and OS software. They would invite people such as Rich in and discuss with them their strategy as well as future products. This gives the person a better feel for why IBM does something short term and how it affects the long term. I seem to remember that one time some very popular writer for a major computer magazine was writing articles about how mis-directed IBM was with OS/2. After he returned from his little 'excursion', he actually admitted, in subsequent articles' that he was wrong and that IBM really did have their s*** together. I wish I knew what the next generation was. Hey - maybe they finally figured out how to stabilize Lithiom Polymer so it doesn't blow up and our next mobile computer's casing will be our battery. |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 08:55:39 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09831; Tue, 6 Jun 95 08:55:39 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02813; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:44:20 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:44:19 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA02802; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:44:18 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA03719; Tue, 6 Jun 95 08:45:07 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 95 08:45:07 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9506061245.AA03719@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: alster@interport.net, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: is there interest in a thinkpad unix list? actually (and of course this is itself an example), the only time we see a real burst of activity on this list is when we discuss changing it in some way, then we decide not to, and everything calms down again. incidentally, I very much agree that this mailing list is better than a newsgroup, the usenet news grsoups are deteriorating these days ... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 09:18:17 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10916; Tue, 6 Jun 95 09:18:17 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04043; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 09:06:00 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 09:05:59 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04033; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 09:05:57 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA03769; Tue, 6 Jun 95 09:06:44 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 95 09:06:44 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9506061306.AA03769@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: krisdw@basenet.net, sandy@sandy.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: ThinkPad "Next Generation" I would guess that it is unrealistic to expect any major technology in thinkpads this year. Instead I would expect the following: 120MHz Pentium models better video performance larger disks and maybe memory CDROM version of the CX Pentium version of the 701 any other suggestions ... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 09:31:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11141; Tue, 6 Jun 95 09:31:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04805; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 09:21:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 09:21:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA04795; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 09:21:51 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0562; Tue, 06 Jun 95 09:16:22 -0400 Message-Id: <9506061316.AA0562@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id F887E505D1CAE9C9852561D30048A7A9; Tue, 6 Jun 95 09:16:21 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 6 Jun 95 9:19:09 Subject: Re: is there interest in a thinkpad unix list? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain I'm with Robert. I don't mind the extra Unix traffic, although I have no use for it myself, and I'd hate to miss out on any of the hardware & bios stuff. ___ @( oo )@ ( .. ) Michael J. Verne mverne@vmedia.com "Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man that he didn't already have." To: eranian @ chorus.fr @ INET, moore @ CS.UTK.EDU @ INET cc: tp750 @ CS.UTK.EDU @ INET (bcc: Michael Verne/VENTANA) From: dewar @ GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) @ INET Date: 06/06/95 05:57:28 AM Subject: Re: is there interest in a thinkpad unix list? the other problem with splitting it is that there are many posts that are independent of OS, e.g. mechanical problems part numbers of upgrades bios problems etc. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 10:11:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12977; Tue, 6 Jun 95 10:11:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07128; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 10:00:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 10:00:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA07109; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 10:00:43 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id HAA26043; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 07:00:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199506061400.HAA26043@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Tue, 06 Jun 95 07:02:09 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Upgrade 755Cs 50 to 75 Mhz Does anyone know what the CPU upgrade options and cost are for my (now prehistoric) 755 Cs with the old 25/50 Mhz CPU? I'm pretty sure I remember that it can at least be upgraded to 75Mhz. Anyone know what kind of dough and availability we're talking about? ----------------------------------- Roger J. Buffington 1L, USC Law Center AB6WR Go Trojans!! WARPing with PM-Mail ---------------------------------------------------- "You can't teach that horse to sing! No one can!" said the King's courtiers... "He gave me a year, and a lot can happen in a year. The horse might die. The king might die. I might die. And perhaps the horse will learn to sing..." From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 10:27:21 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA13736; Tue, 6 Jun 95 10:27:21 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08045; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 10:14:51 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 10:14:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA08022; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 10:14:48 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA04064; Tue, 6 Jun 95 10:15:37 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 95 10:15:37 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9506061415.AA04064@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Upgrade 755Cs 50 to 75 Mhz I know of no upgrade path for the 755C. The new Pentium upgrades apply only to the CE/CD series. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 10:50:14 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14924; Tue, 6 Jun 95 10:50:14 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09470; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 10:38:58 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 10:38:57 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from millenium.texas.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09453; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 10:38:56 -0400 Received: from dnet043.sat.texas.net (dnet043.sat.texas.net [204.96.23.43]) by millenium.texas.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA04742 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 09:40:21 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 09:40:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199506061440.JAA04742@millenium.texas.net> X-Sender: iws08738@texas.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: iws08738@texas.net (Ed Holub) Subject: ThinkPad 370 Series >at the moment, I don't even have a thinkpad. My new laptop is ordered, it >will be one of the new ThinkPad 370 with a i486 DX4 / 75 , 12 MB RAM and >540 MB Hard Disk Space. I want to install three operating systems: First >OS/2 as a 'normal' operating system; second LinuX for my Internet stuff >and the hunts for it, and third DOS and Windows 3.11. I think I will >have difficults with linux, but I think I will manage it. >read you later, >Hanno > Here in the U.S. I was told by our IBM Account Rep that the follow-on to the ThinkPad 360's wouldn't be announced until late-summer or early Fall timeframe. Have you actually ordered a 370? What else is "new" about the 370 except the DX4/75 processor? Thanks for any info, Ed Holub From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 10:50:18 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14929; Tue, 6 Jun 95 10:50:18 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09452; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 10:38:56 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 10:38:54 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from millenium.texas.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09440; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 10:38:52 -0400 Received: from dnet043.sat.texas.net (dnet043.sat.texas.net [204.96.23.43]) by millenium.texas.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA04745 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 09:40:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 09:40:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199506061440.JAA04745@millenium.texas.net> X-Sender: iws08738@texas.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: iws08738@texas.net (Ed Holub) Subject: ThinkPad 370 Series? >at the moment, I don't even have a thinkpad. My new laptop is ordered, it >will be one of the new ThinkPad 370 with a i486 DX4 / 75 , 12 MB RAM and >540 MB Hard Disk Space. I want to install three operating systems: First >OS/2 as a 'normal' operating system; second LinuX for my Internet stuff >and the hunts for it, and third DOS and Windows 3.11. I think I will >have difficults with linux, but I think I will manage it. >read you later, >Hanno > Here in the U.S. our IBM Sales Rep told us that the follow-on product to the 360's would not be announced until late Summer or early Fall. Have you actually ordered a 370? What else is "new" about it besides the DX4/75 processor? Thanks for any info, Ed Holub From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 10:57:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15138; Tue, 6 Jun 95 10:57:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09948; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 10:46:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 10:46:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA09933; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 10:46:36 -0400 Received: (buffingt@localhost) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id HAA29420; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 07:46:35 -0700 Message-Id: <199506061446.HAA29420@chaph.usc.edu> Date: Tue, 06 Jun 95 07:47:58 EDT From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Reply-To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: Roger J. Buffington's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: Upgrade 755Cs 50 to 75 Mhz On Tue, 6 Jun 95 10:15:37 -0400 you wrote: >I know of no upgrade path for the 755C. The new Pentium upgrades apply >only to the CE/CD series. Yes, but the DX 25/75 is not a Pentium, it is a clock-tripled 486. I'm pretty sure I remember that when I bought my TP, there was a 75 option to which the 50 could be upgraded. Anyone out there familiar with this? > Roger J. Buffington AB6WR Go Trojans! WARPing with PM-Mail | "I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from | | them (Native Americans). There were great numbers of people who | | needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it | | for themsleves." - John Wayne (actor) | From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 11:01:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15344; Tue, 6 Jun 95 11:01:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10341; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 10:52:04 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 10:52:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from lcs-m5.mgh.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id KAA10330; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 10:52:01 -0400 Received: from lcs-m5.mgh.harvard.edu by lcs-m5.mgh.harvard.edu; Tue, 6 Jun 95 09:59 EDT Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 09:59:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Joe Bormel Subject: Re: Warp & APM (was SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp) To: Robert Dewar Cc: kress@ctpsun.ciw.edu, whittle@chaph.usc.edu, TP750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <9506052314.AA04355@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 5 Jun 1995, Robert Dewar wrote: > note that of course to see these problems at all (the suspend problems) > you have to have different settings in the battery and AC profiles. > zdp Is it possible to completely disable suspend in the battery (&AC) profiles so that Warp is completely usable with hibernation as the ONLY way to effect a suspend/resume capability? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 12:10:24 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22272; Tue, 6 Jun 95 12:10:24 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14348; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 11:55:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 11:55:09 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14327; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 11:55:04 -0400 From: Received: from PC1-Message_Server by BEL1.HAHNEMANN.EDU with WordPerfect_Office; Tue, 06 Jun 1995 11:53:51 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: WordPerfect Office 4.0 Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 11:51:37 -0400 To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU, sandy@sandy.com Subject: Re: ThinkPad "Next Generation" -Reply I hope this helps. The following was sent to the LIST 5.30.95 Reported in "INFO World " 5.29.95 Page 1. INTEL ... this week will announce its new 90-MHz Pentium processor for potables. ... Intel will dump plans to introduce a 100 MHz Pentium ... and jump right to 120 MHz mobile Pentium processor late in the third quarter. Intel is working ... to bring out a PCI chip set... Though pricing is not yet available for the 120 MHz chip, it may be priced at a premium over the current desktop version. ... The Triton chip set for potables with PCI support is expected to appear at the same time ... Intel Pentium Processor Advantage ... * Voltage Reduction Technology, [VRT] allows the chip to operate at 2.9 volts while maintaining compatibility with 3.3 volt components. * The special, space saving "tape carrier" chip package, which allows for better heat dispensation than desktop processors; * On-chip power down, which powers the cache and floating-point unit when not in use. ----------------------< End of REPORT >---------------------------------- Functional parity with the desktops!!? I wonder what percentage of laptop & notebook motherboards and chip sets INTEL produces versus the desktops to warrant such needed notoriety? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 12:24:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23011; Tue, 6 Jun 95 12:24:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15311; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 12:10:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 12:10:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA15292; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 12:10:27 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id LAA15440 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 11:10:21 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 11:10:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199506061610.LAA15440@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1b2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: Re: ThinkPad "Next Generation" At 09:06 AM 6/6/95 -0400, you wrote: >I would guess that it is unrealistic to expect any major technology >in thinkpads this year. Instead I would expect the following: > > 120MHz Pentium models > better video performance > larger disks and maybe memory > CDROM version of the CX > Pentium version of the 701 > >any other suggestions ... > YES! 1) I would love to see local bus slots in the docking stations! VESA or PCI, either would do.... currently all docking stations just have 16bit ISA slots, even though the thinkpad itself does have VESA localbus (for internal video and hard disk). 2) I'd like to see some kind of hardware MPEG playback built-in to the internal video chipset. These are getting real cheap. 3) Release of the long-awaited 28.8Kbaud modem program for MWAVE. 4) Oh, and drivers (mwave, etc) for Windows95, Windows NT would be nice. Drivers for Linux would also be nice (although its just a dream). just my $.02, Todd --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 12:57:54 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24632; Tue, 6 Jun 95 12:57:54 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17385; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 12:46:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 12:46:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA17373; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 12:46:38 -0400 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by Eisner.DECUS.Org (PMDF V4.2-12 #4291) id <01HRDUWMJNEO0024BI@Eisner.DECUS.Org>; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 12:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 12:46:31 -0400 (EDT) From: billy@mix.com Subject: Lithium battery explosion risks? In-Reply-To: <199506061145.GAA04638@mtvernon1.basenet.net> Sender: YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <802457191.483945.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Mail-System-Version: Kris D. Williams writes - > Hey - maybe they finally figured > out how to stabilize Lithiom Polymer so it doesn't blow up ... Exactly how big a bang might one expect from one of these thngs? And what are the conditions that can cause this to happen (over- charging or??) in the first place? That is, how might the risk here be minimized? Thanks, Billy Y.. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 14:06:23 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29138; Tue, 6 Jun 95 14:06:23 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21629; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 13:54:11 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 13:54:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from emout04.mail.aol.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id NAA21619; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 13:54:09 -0400 From: Received: by emout04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA061571040; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 13:50:40 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 13:50:40 -0400 Message-Id: <950606135039_62690244@aol.com> To: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu, dewar@gnat.cs.nyu.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Upgrade 755Cs 50 to 75 Mhz and OTHER ?'s. In a message dated 95-06-06 11:00:02 EDT, buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) writes: >Subj: Re: Upgrade 755Cs 50 to 75 Mhz >Date: 95-06-06 11:00:02 EDT >From: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) >Reply-to: buffingt@chaph.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) >To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU > >On Tue, 6 Jun 95 10:15:37 -0400 you wrote: > >>I know of no upgrade path for the 755C. The new Pentium upgrades apply >>only to the CE/CD series. > >Yes, but the DX 25/75 is not a Pentium, it is a clock-tripled 486. I'm >pretty sure I remember that when I bought my TP, there was a 75 option to >which the 50 could be upgraded. > >Anyone out there familiar with this? >> >Roger J. Buffington >AB6WR Yes, there is a 486DX2/50 to DX4/75 upgrade for the Thinkpad 755 C/Cs if you already don't have the 75Mhz processor installed. The IBM processor upgrade kit (50/25 to 75/25) is part number 84G2154. I'm not sure exactly what the price is of the upgrade, how easy the upgrade is if you can do it by yourself, or if you need to send the machine in. I am however considering this upgrade for the future, so if you upgrade please let me know how it went.. cost, time, etc... Thanks. BTW, has anyone ever tried the ThinkPad TV Tuner option? If so, how is it? Also, do any Thinkpad 755C/Cs owners know of how to set and save settings with the audio control through Windows. More specifically, changing the default and saving settings for the MIDI out, Wave out, Line out, etc. It is annoying for my machine to start out Windows at the highest volume level. Changing the setting helps only for the current session and if I reload Windows, the volume is maxed out again! Is there a latest version out for audio control that can save settings? Or is there any other manual way? --------------------------------------------- Mark3M@aol.com --------------------------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 14:21:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29969; Tue, 6 Jun 95 14:21:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22645; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 14:09:46 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 14:09:44 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22635; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 14:09:43 -0400 Received: from p27.slip.net (sfsp102.slip.net [204.160.88.152]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA21121 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 11:09:40 -0700 Message-Id: <199506061809.LAA21121@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 11:09:35 -0700 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: Lithium battery explosion risks? At 12:46 PM 6/6/95 -0400, billy@mix.com wrote: >Kris D. Williams writes - >> Hey - maybe they finally figured >> out how to stabilize Lithiom Polymer so it doesn't blow up ... > >Exactly how big a bang might one expect from one of these thngs? >And what are the conditions that can cause this to happen (over- >charging or??) in the first place? That is, how might the risk >here be minimized? they are generally stable under normal conditions, you're only in danger if you: 1. operate your thinkpad within 40 feet of a microwave oven, the microwaves resonate in the lithium and create a sympathetic vibration, particularly while displaying some excel charts. 2. storing the battery in custard. contrary to the advice of a certain popular professional wrestler, lithium batteries should NOT be stored in custard. the custard can excite the lithium to the point of explosion (as it does for most of us). 3. follow explosive prevention and handling instructions from anyone connected with spine.com, known hucksters and fornicators. 4. chewing on the battery casing. this is actually quite safe, apart from the dental issues it conjures. ____________________________________________________________________ http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 14:21:58 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29974; Tue, 6 Jun 95 14:21:58 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22658; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 14:09:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 14:09:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22646; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 14:09:46 -0400 Received: from p27.slip.net (sfsp102.slip.net [204.160.88.152]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA21112 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 11:09:37 -0700 Message-Id: <199506061809.LAA21112@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 11:09:32 -0700 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: Upgrade 755Cs 50 to 75 Mhz >>I know of no upgrade path for the 755C. The new Pentium upgrades apply >>only to the CE/CD series. > >Yes, but the DX 25/75 is not a Pentium, it is a clock-tripled 486. I'm pretty sure I remember that when I bought my TP, there was a 75 option to which the 50 could be upgraded. > >Anyone out there familiar with this? Only that I when I bought my 755cs/75, IBM said that I could buy a /50 and upgrade later (I don't remember the price difference). ____________________________________________________________________ http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 14:22:00 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA29979; Tue, 6 Jun 95 14:22:00 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22731; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 14:10:29 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 14:10:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from wilma.cs.utk.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA22714; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 14:10:27 -0400 Received: from LOCALHOST by wilma.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id OAA14640; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 14:10:26 -0400 Message-Id: <199506061810.OAA14640@wilma.cs.utk.edu> X-Uri: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ From: Keith Moore To: jokim@mit.edu (John H. Kim) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU, moore@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a TP701 list? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 06 Jun 1995 00:41:34 EDT." <9506060440.AA12445@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 14:10:20 -0400 Sender: moore@CS.UTK.EDU > How many members does this mailing list have anyway? 321 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 15:40:30 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08296; Tue, 6 Jun 95 15:40:30 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27183; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:26:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:26:14 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mba.cba.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27173; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:26:13 -0400 Received: (from sean@localhost) by mba.cba.uiuc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA00500 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 13:22:29 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199506061822.NAA00500@mba.cba.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: is there interest in a thinkpad unix list? To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 13:22:29 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: schou@uiuc.edu In-Reply-To: <9506060957.AA08461@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> from "Robert Dewar" at Jun 6, 95 05:57:28 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > the other problem with splitting it is that there are many posts that > are independent of OS, e.g. I think this is an important point. Since non-OS specific talk would probably remain on this list, any UNIX-TP subscribers would probably still subscribe to this list unless someone always posted to both lists (in which case, any person who _is_ subscribed to both would have many duplicate messages). From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 15:40:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08401; Tue, 6 Jun 95 15:40:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27234; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:27:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:27:46 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mba.cba.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27224; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:27:45 -0400 Received: (from sean@localhost) by mba.cba.uiuc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA00507 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 13:24:02 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199506061824.NAA00507@mba.cba.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: NT on Thinkpad To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 13:24:02 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: schou@uiuc.edu In-Reply-To: from "retsla" at Jun 6, 95 08:25:39 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > How about NT 3.51? > > What else should I also be aware of? I realize the MWave stuff is really > unlikely to be supported. The list of PCMCIA cards supported by NT 3.51 is very small so be sure to get the list _before_ you make any purchases. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 15:48:53 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08518; Tue, 6 Jun 95 15:48:53 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27888; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:36:14 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:36:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27877; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:36:12 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA06301; Tue, 6 Jun 95 15:36:58 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 95 15:36:58 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9506061936.AA06301@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: Mark3M@aol.com, buffingt@chaph.usc.edu, dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: digital ceullar modem anyone have any experience with this option From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 15:49:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08524; Tue, 6 Jun 95 15:49:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA28001; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:38:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:38:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27990; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:38:29 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA06321; Tue, 6 Jun 95 15:39:17 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 95 15:39:17 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9506061939.AA06321@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: jesse@spine.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Lithium battery explosion risks? After reading this idiotic post, I take back my statement about how much better a mailing list is than a usenet newsgroup, I guess you can't keep the noise level down anywhere .... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 15:50:20 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08533; Tue, 6 Jun 95 15:50:20 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27926; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:36:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:36:41 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mba.cba.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id PAA27916; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:36:40 -0400 Received: (from sean@localhost) by mba.cba.uiuc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA00590 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 13:32:57 -0500 From: Sean Chou Message-Id: <199506061832.NAA00590@mba.cba.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: ThinkPad "Next Generation" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 13:32:57 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: schou@uiuc.edu In-Reply-To: <9506061306.AA03769@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> from "Robert Dewar" at Jun 6, 95 09:06:44 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I would guess that it is unrealistic to expect any major technology > in thinkpads this year. Instead I would expect the following: > > 120MHz Pentium models > better video performance > larger disks and maybe memory > CDROM version of the CX > Pentium version of the 701 > > any other suggestions ... Bigger screens with higher resolutions, more tricks like that screen/LCD thing, EDO memory, maybe more modules for the floppy space. I'd like to see a thinner and lighter model as well as more attention to ergonomics (ahem, wrist-rest), a handle... From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 16:08:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09841; Tue, 6 Jun 95 16:08:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29660; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:00:18 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:00:17 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA29647; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:00:15 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA06399; Tue, 6 Jun 95 16:01:04 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 95 16:01:04 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9506062001.AA06399@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: schou@uiuc.edu, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: ThinkPad "Next Generation" speaking of ergonomics, the 755CX runs VERY hot, much hotter than any previous TP I owned, it will damage furniture or come close to burning your lap if you actually use it as lap top! I have found it a good idea to run it with its feet up to give some circulation. Still I must say I am *very* happy with the CX, the performance is a real jump above the 100MHz CD (as much the cache as the Pentium), and the better screen resolution is a real help. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 16:22:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10339; Tue, 6 Jun 95 16:22:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00654; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:09:33 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:09:31 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from LGATE.vmedia.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00639; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:09:29 -0400 Received: by LGATE.vmedia.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0686; Tue, 06 Jun 95 16:03:59 -0400 Message-Id: <9506062003.AA0686@LGATE.vmedia.com> Received: from ITP with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 663C3D5EFAD97927852561D3006E5F63; Tue, 6 Jun 95 16:03:57 To: tp750 From: Michael Verne/VENTANA Date: 6 Jun 95 16:08:13 Subject: Re: digital ceullar modem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Saw a few brands demo'd at Comdex. Ran smoothly. The technology did not increase the price of the modems, either, which was surprising, as cellular phone companies will charge $250 - $500 for modem adapters that only work on a specific phone. I was pretty impressed. ___ @( oo )@ ( .. ) Michael J. Verne mverne@vmedia.com "Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man that he didn't already have." To: Mark3M @ aol.com @ INET, buffingt @ chaph.usc.edu @ INET, dewar @ GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU @ INET, tp750 @ CS.UTK.EDU @ INET cc: (bcc: Michael Verne/VENTANA) From: dewar @ GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) @ INET Date: 06/06/95 03:36:58 PM Subject: digital ceullar modem anyone have any experience with this option From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 16:22:32 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10344; Tue, 6 Jun 95 16:22:32 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00737; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:10:17 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:10:15 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA00718; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:10:12 -0400 Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA09900; Tue, 6 Jun 95 16:09:59 -0400 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0um) id AA0045; Tue, 06 Jun 95 16:08:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 06 Jun 95 16:08:13 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Message-Id: <9506062008.AA0045@omerie.ai.mit.edu> To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU Cc: krisdw@basenet.net, sandy@sandy.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Tue, 6 Jun 95 09:06:44 -0400 from dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Subject: ThinkPad "Next Generation" Date: Tue, 6 Jun 95 09:06:44 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) I would guess that it is unrealistic to expect any major technology in thinkpads this year. Instead I would expect the following: 120MHz Pentium models better video performance larger disks and maybe memory CDROM version of the CX Pentium version of the 701 any other suggestions ... What about the PowerPC? IBM claims they will have PowerPC ThinkPads out before the end of the year. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 16:23:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10400; Tue, 6 Jun 95 16:23:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01291; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:14:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:14:04 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA01280; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:14:02 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA06430; Tue, 6 Jun 95 16:14:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 95 16:14:42 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9506062014.AA06430@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: cph@martigny.ai.mit.edu, dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU Subject: Re: ThinkPad "Next Generation" Cc: krisdw@basenet.net, sandy@sandy.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU "What about the PowerPC? IBM claims they will have PowerPC ThinkPads out before the end of the year." The question is: will they have any interesting software requiring a PowerPC. Also will there be a Linux for PowerPC by then? From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 16:46:19 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11450; Tue, 6 Jun 95 16:46:19 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04692; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:36:06 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:36:03 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA04681; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:36:00 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA17717 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:35:56 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:35:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199506062035.PAA17717@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1b2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: Re: ThinkPad "Next Generation" >"What about the PowerPC? IBM claims they will have PowerPC ThinkPads >out before the end of the year." > you can buy a powerpc notebook from ibm _right now_. they sent me literature on it some time ago; there is a special purchase program going on right now for universities. the case looks like a thinkpad. as i remember, it _only_ runs AIX at this time. seemed kinda expensive as well. please don't ask me for additional details, as I do not know anything more about it (I threw out the flyer). --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 16:46:33 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11458; Tue, 6 Jun 95 16:46:33 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05209; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:39:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:39:29 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mom.hooked.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA05181; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:39:27 -0400 Received: from p27.slip.net (sfsp112.slip.net [204.160.88.142]) by mom.hooked.net (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA07066 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 13:39:17 -0700 Message-Id: <199506062039.NAA07066@mom.hooked.net> X-Sender: jesse@slip.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 13:39:11 -0700 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: jesse@spine.com (jesse montrose) Subject: Re: ThinkPad "Next Generation" At 04:01 PM 6/6/95 -0400, Robert Dewar wrote: >speaking of ergonomics, the 755CX runs VERY hot, much hotter than any >previous TP I owned, it will damage furniture or come close to burning >your lap if you actually use it as lap top! I have found it a good idea >to run it with its feet up to give some circulation. I accepted that a long time ago with my 720, I use a hardback "coffee table" book between my 755cs and my lap, always with the feet up. Without the book it gets hot enough to cause pain, is the cx really that much hotter? (We're not going to have another mcdonald's coffee incident, are we? :) >Still I must say I am *very* happy with the CX, the performance is a real >jump above the 100MHz CD (as much the cache as the Pentium), and the >better screen resolution is a real help. Did you ever get it to go into 800x600x16bit mode? ____________________________________________________________________ http://www.hooked.net/bin/jesse.home After seven years, I was sent home to my family. Little man, I give the watch to you. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 16:57:57 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11730; Tue, 6 Jun 95 16:57:57 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06100; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:45:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:45:48 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from martigny.ai.mit.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id QAA06090; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:45:46 -0400 Received: from omerie.ai.mit.edu by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA11337; Tue, 6 Jun 95 16:44:29 -0400 Received: by omerie.ai.mit.edu (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.14/1.0um) id AA0059; Tue, 06 Jun 95 16:42:44 -0400 Date: Tue, 06 Jun 95 16:42:44 -0400 From: Chris Hanson Message-Id: <9506062042.AA0059@omerie.ai.mit.edu> To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU Cc: krisdw@basenet.net, sandy@sandy.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: Msg of Tue, 6 Jun 95 16:14:42 -0400 from dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Subject: ThinkPad "Next Generation" Date: Tue, 6 Jun 95 16:14:42 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) "What about the PowerPC? IBM claims they will have PowerPC ThinkPads out before the end of the year." The question is: will they have any interesting software requiring a PowerPC. Also will there be a Linux for PowerPC by then? I didn't claim that PowerPC ThinkPads were interesting. But the original question was, what could IBM have up their sleeves that was sufficiently new that it might justify that kind of promotion? It seems to me that, from IBM's point of view, this might qualify. Unfortunately, while these computers should be out sometime in late summer, it will probably be next year before they are useful. IBM is likely to shoot itself in the foot again, waiting around for OS/2 and NT to be ported to this architecture, supposedly late this year, with NT released a few months before OS/2. And then another year or so to flush out the bugs in both of them. Meanwhile all they have to offer is AIX, which won't sell many of those machines. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 17:16:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12296; Tue, 6 Jun 95 17:16:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09305; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 17:07:54 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 17:07:53 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA09295; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 17:07:50 -0400 Received: from Eisner.DECUS.Org by Eisner.DECUS.Org (PMDF V4.2-12 #4291) id <01HRE5MD2A0G0027OC@Eisner.DECUS.Org>; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:53:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 16:53:54 -0400 (EDT) From: billy@mix.com Subject: Re: ThinkPad "Next Generation" In-Reply-To: <199506061832.NAA00590@mba.cba.uiuc.edu> Sender: YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Message-Id: <802472034.674945.YOUDELMAN@Eisner.DECUS.Org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Mail-System-Version: Sean Chou writes - > I'd like to see a thinner and lighter model as well as more > attention to ergonomics (ahem, wrist-rest), a handle... I'd rather have more keyboard and an external wrist rest. Right now I'm using a Case Logic GL2 - it's filled with a jell that flows pretty slowly - it works quite well, and not being stiff it's easy to pack too. I like mine so much I bought a second one and stashed it, just in case. Billy Y.. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 18:08:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14755; Tue, 6 Jun 95 18:08:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16156; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 17:58:53 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 17:58:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA16145; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 17:58:50 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sJ6eq-0004uZC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 16:59 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sJ6ep-0002nbC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 16:59 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sJ6eo-0002wvC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 16:59 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: digital ceullar modem To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:59:30 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9506061936.AA06301@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> from "Robert Dewar" at Jun 6, 95 03:36:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > anyone have any experience with this option > I assume you mean the CDPD modem? Or is it the Mobitex Type III PCMCIA card? Wireless packet data technology, yes. I have a Mobitex radio on the desk right now connected to my Thinkpad. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 18:12:59 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14786; Tue, 6 Jun 95 18:12:59 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16729; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 18:03:05 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 18:03:02 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA16681; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 18:02:59 -0400 Received: from mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com by esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0sJ6it-0004tkC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 17:03 CDT Received: from bart.dsd.northrop.com by mail-relay.dsd.northrop.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sJ6ir-0002ncC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 17:03 CDT Received: by bart.dsd.northrop.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sJ6ir-0002wvC; Tue, 6 Jun 95 17:03 CDT Message-Id: From: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Subject: Re: Lithium battery explosion risks? To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 17:03:41 -0500 (CDT) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU (ThinkPad 750 Mailing List) In-Reply-To: <9506061939.AA06321@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> from "Robert Dewar" at Jun 6, 95 03:39:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > After reading this idiotic post, I take back my statement about how much > better a mailing list is than a usenet newsgroup, I guess you can't keep > the noise level down anywhere .... > Does anyone know who are the US developers for this battery technology? I need a battery company on my team and it must be US owned. -- Scott A. Stratmoen | strat@ast.dsd.northrop.com | (708) 259-9600 (ex 24762) From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 18:20:25 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15203; Tue, 6 Jun 95 18:20:25 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17980; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 18:10:49 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 18:10:47 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from anugpo.anu.edu.au by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA17963; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 18:10:45 -0400 Received: from huxley.anu.edu.au (ask611@huxley.anu.edu.au [150.203.2.12]) by anugpo.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA22234; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 08:04:19 +1000 From: Alden S Klovdahl Received: (ask611@localhost) by huxley.anu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA28182; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 08:10:38 +1000 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 08:10:38 +1000 Message-Id: <199506062210.IAA28182@huxley.anu.edu.au> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: new generation > I would guess that it is unrealistic to expect any major technology > in thinkpads this year. Instead I would expect the following: > > 120MHz Pentium models > better video performance > larger disks and maybe memory > CDROM version of the CX > Pentium version of the 701 > > any other suggestions ... > >What about the PowerPC? IBM claims they will have PowerPC ThinkPads >out before the end of the year. here in australia i have read june 20 release date. power pc chip, NT 3.51 os. as it is also suggested that they are going after lower end silicon graphics machines, perhaps pci buses also at least in the docking station for now. i'd be surprised if it was not a 11.3" or more tft as well, and of course 1.2 gig hdd. sounds like the N40 and tp people may have gotten together. regards, al Alden S Klovdahl / alden.klovdahl@anu.edu.au / fax: +61 62 49 05 25 Sociology Arts / Australian National University / Canberra ACT Australia 0200 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 19:57:56 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19580; Tue, 6 Jun 95 19:57:56 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24521; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 19:51:27 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 19:51:25 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id TAA24508; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 19:51:24 -0400 Received: by GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (5.61/1.34) id AA08146; Tue, 6 Jun 95 19:50:56 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 95 19:50:56 -0400 From: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) Message-Id: <9506062350.AA08146@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> To: jesse@spine.com, tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: ThinkPad "Next Generation" "Did you ever get it to go into 800x600x16bit mode?" My understanding is that this mode is achievable with current Windows drivers, but not with current Warp drivers. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 21:39:47 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24667; Tue, 6 Jun 95 21:39:47 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02873; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:32:47 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:32:45 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA02863; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:32:43 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id SAA16376; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 18:32:41 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id SAA09763; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 18:32:41 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199506070132.SAA09763@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Upgrade 755Cs 50 to 75 Mhz and OTHER ?'s. To: Mark3M@aol.com Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 18:32:41 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <950606135039_62690244@aol.com> from "Mark3M@aol.com" at Jun 6, 95 01:50:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > BTW, has anyone ever tried the ThinkPad TV Tuner option? If so, how is it? I fell for it. I figured, "What the heck" once the price came down to a reasonable (sort of) range. Its quite good actually, but you have to carry around the external antenna to have it work with any degree of success. It ain't a Sony Trinitron, but the picture is acceptable. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 21:50:07 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24788; Tue, 6 Jun 95 21:50:07 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04212; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:43:21 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:43:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04202; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:43:18 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id SAA16933; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 18:43:15 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id SAA10643; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 18:43:15 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199506070143.SAA10643@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: ThinkPad "Next Generation" To: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 18:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <199506061145.GAA04638@mtvernon1.basenet.net> from "Kris D. Williams" at Jun 6, 95 06:45:12 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I seem to remember that one time some very popular writer for a major comput > magazine was writing articles about how mis-directed IBM was with OS/2. Aft > he returned from his little 'excursion', he actually admitted, in subsequent > articles' that he was wrong and that IBM really did have their s*** together. John Dvorak, right? My brother mentioned (not so humbly, I might add) that his discussions with Dvorak were key in getting him to turn around on the OS/2 issue. They later authored an OS/2 book together (published about 18 mos. ago). ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 21:53:34 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25107; Tue, 6 Jun 95 21:53:34 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04697; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:46:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:46:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from baijuyi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA04682; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:46:18 -0400 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by baijuyi (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id JAA18040; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:43:14 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199506070143.JAA18040@baijuyi> Subject: Re: digital ceullar modem To: strat@dsd.northrop.com (Scott Stratmoen) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:43:14 +0800 (WAUST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: from "Scott Stratmoen" at Jun 6, 95 04:59:30 pm Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text ``..Scott Stratmoen writes, ` Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:59:30 -0500 (CDT) ` ` I assume you mean the CDPD modem? Or is it the Mobitex Type III PCMCIA ` card? ` Wireless packet data technology, yes. I have a Mobitex ` radio on the desk right now connected to my Thinkpad. How well does the Mobitex perform? ____________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 21:56:27 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25170; Tue, 6 Jun 95 21:56:27 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05311; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:51:38 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:51:33 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from baijuyi by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA05236; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:51:23 -0400 Received: (from kcheong@localhost) by baijuyi (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id JAA27787; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:48:32 +0800 From: Kevin Cheong Message-Id: <199506070148.JAA27787@baijuyi> Subject: Re: new generation To: Alden.Klovdahl@anu.edu.au (Alden S Klovdahl) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:48:31 +0800 (WAUST) Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU In-Reply-To: <199506062210.IAA28182@huxley.anu.edu.au> from "Alden S Klovdahl" at Jun 7, 95 08:10:38 am Reply-To: kevin@iss.nus.sg Priority: normal Os: AIX 2 3 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha2] Content-Type: text ``..Alden S Klovdahl writes, ` Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 08:10:38 +1000 ` >What about the PowerPC? IBM claims they will have PowerPC ThinkPads ` >out before the end of the year. ` ` here in australia i have read june 20 release date. power pc chip, How much will it be in AUD? ` NT 3.51 os. as it is also suggested that they are going after lower ` end silicon graphics machines, perhaps pci buses also at least in the docking ` station for now. i'd be surprised if it was not a 11.3" or more tft as well, ` and of course 1.2 gig hdd. sounds like the N40 and tp people may have gotten ` together. BTW is the N40 bundled with AIX for the PPC? Or do you have to get it separately? Anyone used/s this beast and willing to share more about it? ____________________________________________________________________ kevin cheong mlp program iss nus From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 22:06:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25674; Tue, 6 Jun 95 22:06:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06771; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 22:01:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 22:01:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from kitten.mcs.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA06761; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 22:01:08 -0400 Received: from mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA10149; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:01:06 -0500 Received: by mailbox.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Tue, 6 Jun 95 20:50 CDT Received: by falkor.chi.il.us (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Tue, 06 Jun 95 20:31:01 CDT for tp750@cs.utk.edu To: Randal Whittle Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: Warp & APM (was SVGA Win-OS/2 under Warp) From: heiby@falkor.chi.il.us (Ron Heiby) Message-Id: <6wXa7c3w165w@falkor.chi.il.us> Date: Tue, 06 Jun 95 20:27:52 CDT In-Reply-To: <199506052129.OAA02232@aludra.usc.edu> Organization: DML, Inc., Buffalo Grove, IL Congrats! Do you have a PCMCIA modem? Anyway, I tried my test case, developed on my 750C, on a dealer's 750Cs. The only pieces from my system were the HD, battery, and AC adapter. In my test case, I was booting PC-DOS 6.1 with nothing in CONFIG.SYS except POWER.EXE and nothing in AUTOEXEC.BAT except setting the PATH. IBM Support did not attempt to tell me that any of my three pieces was at fault. (I asked them if they'd like to swap out any/all of them to see if it fixed the problem.) Anyway, IBM finally found the problem, but it's built into the system board, so it's now a "known limitation" of the 750 series. IBM steadfastly maintained that they had received only a handful of complaints similar to mine. Ron. From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 22:43:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27430; Tue, 6 Jun 95 22:43:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11680; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 22:36:23 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 22:36:21 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11669; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 22:36:19 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id TAA19689; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 19:36:17 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id TAA14482; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 19:36:16 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199506070236.TAA14482@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Upgrade 755Cs 50 to 75 Mhz and OTHER ?'s. To: mehdi@armon.rain.com (Mehdi Attaran) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 19:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: from "Mehdi Attaran" at Jun 6, 95 07:10:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > BTW, has anyone ever tried the ThinkPad TV Tuner option? If so, how is i > > > > I fell for it. I figured, "What the heck" once the price came > > down to a reasonable (sort of) range. > > May I ask how much it was? What options does it have? (i.e. does it display > the close caption? Can it store close captioned info to a file, etc.) Its just a TV tuner and it has no interaction whatsoever with the computer side of things--no way to close caption (its not in the tuner) or save anything to a file. It operates in a whole separate mode. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Tue Jun 6 22:43:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27434; Tue, 6 Jun 95 22:43:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11725; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 22:37:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 22:37:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA11715; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 22:37:35 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id TAA19791; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 19:37:34 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id TAA14645; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 19:37:33 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199506070237.TAA14645@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: Upgrade 755Cs 50 to 75 Mhz and OTHER ?'s. To: sandy@sandy.com Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 19:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <199506070226.TAA19628@shell1.best.com> from "sandy@sandy.com" at Jun 6, 95 07:25:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > I fell for it. I figured, "What the heck" once the price came > >down to a reasonable (sort of) range. > > > > Its quite good actually, but you have to carry around the external > >antenna to have it work with any degree of success. > > > > It ain't a Sony Trinitron, but the picture is acceptable. > > Hi Randy, > > I'm curious about the TV add-on. Is it a two-component add-on? I assume > it replaces the floppy drive internally and uses the little antenna > externally? What do these things sell for? Thanks for any info. I paid something in the way of $300 or so. Call IBM for current pricing (maybe I paid more--can't remember). You are correct in your assumptions though. The antenna is a whole separate item, and the tuner itself sits in the floppy bay. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 7 00:32:48 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15862; Wed, 7 Jun 95 00:32:48 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25055; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 00:23:02 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 00:23:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25045; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 00:22:59 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id VAA24737; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:22:57 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id VAA21470; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:22:57 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199506070422.VAA21470@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: TV Tuner option To: sandy@sandy.com Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <199506070257.TAA26028@shell1.best.com> from "sandy@sandy.com" at Jun 6, 95 07:57:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > You are correct in your assumptions though. The antenna is a whole > >separate item, and the tuner itself sits in the floppy bay. > > Is tuning done via software or through the external "antenna"? Thanks for > the info Randy. I'm not sure my new 755CX supports the TV add-on. Tuning is done by a set of buttons right on the tuning device (front panel--where the diskette entry slot would be if the diskette drive were in there). ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 7 00:37:06 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA15884; Wed, 7 Jun 95 00:37:06 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25738; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 00:25:35 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 00:25:34 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id AAA25714; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 00:25:32 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id VAA24860; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:25:29 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id VAA21667; Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:25:29 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199506070425.VAA21667@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: TV Tuner To: sandy@sandy.com Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <199506070257.TAA26028@shell1.best.com> from "sandy@sandy.com" at Jun 6, 95 07:57:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > You are correct in your assumptions though. The antenna is a whole > >separate item, and the tuner itself sits in the floppy bay. > > Is tuning done via software or through the external "antenna"? Thanks for > the info Randy. I'm not sure my new 755CX supports the TV add-on. Tuning is done by a set of buttons right on the tuning device (front panel--where the diskette entry slot would be if the diskette drive were in there). ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 7 08:47:28 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA14780; Wed, 7 Jun 95 08:47:28 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22414; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 08:37:41 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 08:37:35 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mtvernon1.basenet.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id IAA22344; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 08:37:32 -0400 Received: from ppp2.basenet.net (ppp2.basenet.net [204.248.92.2]) by mtvernon1.basenet.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id GAA20003 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 06:36:52 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 06:36:52 -0500 Message-Id: <199506071136.GAA20003@mtvernon1.basenet.net> X-Sender: krisdw@basenet.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: krisdw@basenet.net (Kris D. Williams) Subject: My commnet on Lithium Polymer Wow, didn't mean to scare anybody on my recent post. Let me clarify my statement... A couple of years ago I was doing some techincal education on storage technologies for the IBM PC Company. My team was training the Marketing Specialists to get them more techinical on all aspects of PC technology. One of my partners was involved in explaining future technology and was in contact with various PC manufacturers. This was before Lithium Ion batteries. We all new that Lithium would soon be used in batteries at some point but what surprised us was the fact that we were told that Lithium could be mixed with (and I'm using layman terms) other chemicals to form a polymer that was essentially like the plastic casing on our TPads. The implications seemed obvious - - instead of carrying around the extra weight of the battery, your entire case becomes your battery. Pretty cool idea. The problem, we were told was that that polymer was not stable. I'm quite sure those of you lucky enough to have the Lithium Ion batteries are quite safe and need not worry about any instability. My comment was made in jest and lets hope that they do in fact someday get it to work correctly. I for one would love to get rid of the extra weight of a battery. |===============================================================| |Kris D. Williams | |Instructor/Developer:Mobile Education-IBM Education & Training | |Co-Owner:InComm - Sensible Solutions for the Road Warrior | |My opinions are my own (really!) | |===============================================================| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 7 11:14:01 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24720; Wed, 7 Jun 95 11:14:01 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12927; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 11:02:55 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 11:02:52 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA12916; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 11:02:50 -0400 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA10874; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 10:02:48 -0500 Message-Id: <9506071502.AA10874@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Date: Wed, 07 Jun 95 11:04:17 EDT From: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (John H. Kim) Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu (John H. Kim) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.0 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: Re: ThinkPad "Next Generation" On Tue, 6 Jun 1995 06:45:12 -0500 you wrote: >If I had to guess why IBM is going to magazine editors, I'd say it's because >IBM is still trying to shed the skin of the corporate DP shop mentality >where everything is hush-hush until it is ready to roll out, only to find >that what was made didn't even come close to what was needed. I thought this wasn't mentality but a legal edict that came about from the anti-trust suits against IBM a couple decades back. Although IBM managed to "win" in that it wasn't broken up like AT&T, didn't it have some restrictions placed on it, like not being able to pre-announce products to keep people from buying a competitor's product which is available right now, much like a major software company does so successfully right now? It would also tend to explain why IBM sells a few new thinkpads months before production is up to full speed. _______________________________________________________________________ |\ ______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like | | | jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes." | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 7 11:24:41 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24964; Wed, 7 Jun 95 11:24:41 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14227; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 11:11:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 11:11:22 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14193; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 11:11:20 -0400 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA10994; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 10:11:16 -0500 Message-Id: <9506071511.AA10994@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Date: Wed, 07 Jun 95 11:12:44 EDT From: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (John H. Kim) Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu (John H. Kim) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.0 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: Re: Lithium battery explosion risks? On Tue, 6 Jun 95 15:39:17 -0400 jesse@spine.com wrote: >After reading this idiotic post, I take back my statement about how much >better a mailing list is than a usenet newsgroup, I guess you can't keep >the noise level down anywhere .... The reason I prefer a newsgroup over a mailing list is that newsreaders have more features to let me sort through and weed out the noise before I read through the stuff. Even if the noise level on a newsgroup is higher than on a mailing list, I usually have an easier time picking out the signal with a newsreader. _______________________________________________________________________ |\ ______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like | | | jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes." | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 7 11:25:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24973; Wed, 7 Jun 95 11:25:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14755; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 11:15:22 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 11:15:20 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from superdec.uni.uiuc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA14740; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 11:15:18 -0400 Received: by superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.4) id AA11039; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 10:15:16 -0500 Message-Id: <9506071515.AA11039@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> Date: Wed, 07 Jun 95 11:16:45 EDT From: jokim@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu (John H. Kim) Reply-To: jokim@mit.edu (John H. Kim) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU X-Mailer: PMMail (v1.0 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE) Subject: TPTV (was: Upgrade 755Cs) On Tue, 6 Jun 1995 19:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Randy Whittle wrote: > I fell for it. I figured, "What the heck" once the price came >down to a reasonable (sort of) range. > > Its quite good actually, but you have to carry around the external >antenna to have it work with any degree of success. > > It ain't a Sony Trinitron, but the picture is acceptable. Is there a video-in plug? If there is, how's the picture from a VCR compare with broadcast? I would think you would want to put the tuner as far as possible from the computer, not right next to it in the floppy bay! _______________________________________________________________________ |\ ______________________________________________________________________\ | | | | | John H. Kim "Just try telling the IRS you don't feel like | | | jokim@mit.edu 'contributing' this year come April" - Bob Dole | | | jokim@uni.uiuc.edu on Bill Clinton's avoidance of the word "taxes." | \|_______________________________________________________________________| From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 7 11:47:10 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25605; Wed, 7 Jun 95 11:47:10 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17123; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 11:33:15 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 11:33:13 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from merle.acns.nwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA17113; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 11:33:12 -0400 Received: by merle.acns.nwu.edu (1.37.109.16/20.3) id AA019369189; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 10:33:09 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 10:33:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Conrad Albrecht-Buehler Subject: Zip PPA-3 To: Thinkpad List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII After spending a ton of time on the phone with the Iomega people, I've figured out how to write a driver for the Zip PPA-3 for Linux. I'm getting all the technical info, and will be starting the project next week. If anyone has a lot of experience with SCSI programming for Linux, please contact me. I have the HOW-TO, but if anyone wants to help me, I'd appreciate it. BTW, I hope no one writes me, and asks me to let them know when I'm done. I'll post to the list as soon as it works. see ya. --Conrad Conrad Albrecht-Buehler Northwestern University conrada-b@nwu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 7 11:57:03 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA25743; Wed, 7 Jun 95 11:57:03 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19865; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 11:50:52 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 11:50:50 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from deneb.dfn.de by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA19834; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 11:50:41 -0400 Received: from unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (rzgw.rz.fh-hannover.de) by deneb.dfn.de (4.1/SMI-4.2) id AA27252; Wed, 7 Jun 95 17:48:50 +0200 Received: from bidnix.bid.fh-hannover.de by unixserv.rz.fh-hannover.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA30857; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 17:49:18 +0100 Received: by bidnix.bid.fh-hannover.de (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0sJNKJ-000DNPC; Wed, 7 Jun 95 17:47 MET DST Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 17:47:26 +0200 (MET DST) From: Hanno Wagner To: Ed Holub Cc: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: ThinkPad 370 Series In-Reply-To: <199506061440.JAA04742@millenium.texas.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, On Tue, 6 Jun 1995, Ed Holub wrote: > Have you actually ordered a 370? What else is "new" about the 370 except > the DX4/75 processor? I have ordered a Thinkpad, brand new, in germany called 'Thinkpad 370'. I don't have any technical details in my head, but the other thing is the display: TFT; 256 colours by 640x480 pixels. There is no audio card *sigh*, but the normal PCMCIA-Slot. Maybe I can tell you more when I get it, and if you can tell me the normal specification for the 360/750/755xx see you, Hanno -- Hanno Wagner, Student der Fachhochschule Hannover, Fachbereich IK email: wagner@www.bid.fh-hannover.de URL: http://www.bid.fh-hannover.de:8080/~wagner/ IRC: Rince (usually on #germany or #muenster or #braunschweig) "This is also a story about sex and drugs and Music With Rocks In. Well... ...one out of three ain't bad." From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 7 12:53:51 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28478; Wed, 7 Jun 95 12:53:51 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27494; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:45:19 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:45:16 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mindvox.phantom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27478; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:45:14 -0400 Received: (from alster@localhost) by mindvox.phantom.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) id MAA11736; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:39:43 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:39:43 -0400 (EDT) From: taoster! Subject: Re: Zip PPA-3 To: Conrad Albrecht-Buehler Cc: Thinkpad List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 7 Jun 1995, Conrad Albrecht-Buehler wrote: > After spending a ton of time on the phone with the Iomega people, > I've figured out how to write a driver for the Zip PPA-3 for Linux. I'm > getting all the technical info, and will be starting the project next > week. If anyone has a lot of experience with SCSI programming for Linux, > please contact me. I have the HOW-TO, but if anyone wants to help me, > I'd appreciate it. BTW, I hope no one writes me, and asks me to let them > know when I'm done. I'll post to the list as soon as it works. Hmm.... I've heard that the Zip drive works with Linux ...guess I heard wrong? http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 7 12:55:15 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28486; Wed, 7 Jun 95 12:55:15 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27643; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:47:30 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:47:28 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from merle.acns.nwu.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27632; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:47:26 -0400 Received: by merle.acns.nwu.edu (1.37.109.16/20.3) id AA205803641; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 11:47:21 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 11:47:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Conrad Albrecht-Buehler Subject: Re: Zip PPA-3 To: taoster! Cc: Thinkpad List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Hmm.... > > I've heard that the Zip drive works with Linux ...guess I heard wrong? The SCSI version works with Linux(Assuming you have a Linux compatible SCSI card). The Parallel port wersion does not. that's the PPA-3. see ya. --Conrad Conrad Albrecht-Buehler Northwestern University conrada-b@nwu.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 7 12:56:09 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28491; Wed, 7 Jun 95 12:56:09 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27883; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:50:17 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:50:11 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from mindvox.phantom.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA27864; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:50:09 -0400 Received: (from alster@localhost) by mindvox.phantom.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) id MAA12287; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:44:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 12:44:39 -0400 (EDT) From: taoster! Subject: Re: Zip PPA-3 To: Conrad Albrecht-Buehler Cc: Thinkpad List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 7 Jun 1995, Conrad Albrecht-Buehler wrote: > > Hmm.... > > > > I've heard that the Zip drive works with Linux ...guess I heard wrong? > The SCSI version works with Linux(Assuming you have a Linux compatible > SCSI card). The Parallel port wersion does not. that's the PPA-3. > see ya. --Conrad Ah ...glad I have SCSI ...hope to pick up a Zip soon... http://www.interport.net/~alster/ alster@mindvox.phantom.com\\interport.net\\chewy.wookie.net From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 7 17:26:46 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18824; Wed, 7 Jun 95 17:26:46 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01929; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 17:09:43 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 17:09:42 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from chaph.usc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id RAA01918; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 17:09:39 -0400 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (whittle@aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.134]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id OAA11616; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 14:09:31 -0700 Received: (whittle@localhost) by aludra.usc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.7+ucs) id OAA16785; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 14:09:30 -0700 From: Randal Whittle Message-Id: <199506072109.OAA16785@aludra.usc.edu> Subject: Re: TPTV (was: Upgrade 755Cs) To: jokim@mit.edu Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 14:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Cc: TP750@CS.UTK.EDU (TP) In-Reply-To: <9506071515.AA11039@superdec.uni.uiuc.edu> from "John H. Kim" at Jun 7, 95 11:16:45 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Is there a video-in plug? If there is, how's the picture from a VCR > compare with broadcast? I would think you would want to put the tuner > as far as possible from the computer, not right next to it in the > floppy bay! There is a video-in plug, and I played with it once. Picture is good, but not particularly any better than a good strong tuned-in signal. ----- ___________________________ Randy Whittle whittle@usc.edu | Practice random acts | USC School of Business (Fight on, 'SC Trojans!) | of senseless | (My opinions are mine, but since I'm | viol...err.. | right, they should be yours too.) | kindness! | --------------------------- From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Wed Jun 7 20:53:35 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28659; Wed, 7 Jun 95 20:53:35 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27472; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 20:45:03 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 20:45:01 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from coyote.channel1.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id UAA27458; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 20:44:59 -0400 Received: from channel1.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by coyote.channel1.com (8.6.9/8.6.4) with UUCP id UAA23919 for tp750@cs.utk.edu; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 20:46:36 -0400 Received: by channel1 (NetXpress 2.02) with UUCP id BD4585; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 15:18:53 -0500 To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: TP 755C From: bedin@channel1.com (Bedin) Message-Id: <40.1026942.700@channel1.com> Date: Wed, 07 Jun 1995 14:45:00 -0500 Organization: Channel 1(R) 617-864-0100 Info Hello All, I wrote recently asking for info about refurbished Thinkpads and how could one be sure. Well,,my Thinkpad 755c has finally arrived. It's quite an impressive unit. I have been using XT's up til' now so imagine the difference. Better yet, I won this unit in a magazine contest. 170 meg drive and 75 meg chip.. Only drawback is drive size but.... Now that I finally have a machine capable of trying all the progs i was unable to before, it's a brave new world for me. I read this list daily for any and all info I can get and I thank everyone. My main problem with this machine is soundcard things. I have 4 megs ram and have made my separate boot/audio disk per the manual and it has allowed some progs and some not. Not too long ago I read a thread here about getting proper sound from DOOM games. I have tried Doom now and i enjoy it, but jsut PC sound.. Any tricks?? Is it possible to run thru the sound card? A little frustrating. At any rate Thanks again! Thinkpads are mighty impressive. bedin@channel1.com From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 8 05:10:08 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22523; Thu, 8 Jun 95 05:10:08 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA28649; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 04:57:12 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 04:57:10 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id EAA28639; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 04:57:09 -0400 Received: from scunix4.harvard.edu by husc.harvard.edu with SMTP; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 04:57:04 -0400 Message-Id: <199506080857.EAA03690@husc.harvard.edu> Received: from fas.harvard.edu by scunix4.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA20764; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 04:57:49 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 04:57:49 -0400 X-Sender: chan4@scunix3.harvard.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: chan4@husc.harvard.edu (Derek V. Chan) Subject: USR "V.Everything" Modem...(comments?) X-Mailer: Okay, I say one of these PCMCIA pups in PC Magazine (pg. 36 - June 11, 1995). It looks cool (w/ the status lights and dual phone jacks). My question is...has anyone heard any good or bad things about the USR? Thanks. -- Derek -- "Dear Jim. . . IBM has been interested for some time in pursuing a business combination with Lotus. Because you have been unwilling to proceed with such a transaction, we are announcing this morning our intention to buy all of Lotus Development Corporation's outstanding common shares. . ." -- Louis V. Gerstner 6/5/95 Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com chan4@fas.harvard.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 8 05:40:22 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24252; Thu, 8 Jun 95 05:40:22 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA06800; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 05:30:25 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 05:30:23 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from Sun.COM by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id FAA06774; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 05:30:21 -0400 Received: from snail.Sun.COM ([129.145.1.3]) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA13470; Thu, 8 Jun 95 02:29:11 PDT Received: from France (isunfra) by snail.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02917; Thu, 8 Jun 95 02:27:34 PDT Received: from bebop.France.Sun.COM (bebop-bb) by France (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12611; Thu, 8 Jun 95 11:27:23 +0200 Received: from otis.France.Sun.COM by bebop.France.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06760; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 11:23:38 +0200 Received: by otis.France.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02143; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 11:22:10 +0200 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 11:22:10 +0200 From: Martin.Patterson@France.Sun.COM (Martin Patterson - Sun Microsystems) Message-Id: <9506080922.AA02143@otis.France.Sun.COM> To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: 755c audio on Windows 95 X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII There have been lots of questions about getting 755c audio working in different environments, here's one more. I would like to know if anyone has got the 755c audio device working under Windows 95 (beta)...? Or NT 3.51? Thanks, Martin From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 8 06:55:05 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26592; Thu, 8 Jun 95 06:55:05 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA16178; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 06:44:39 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 06:44:37 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from husc.harvard.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA16168; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 06:44:36 -0400 Received: from scunix4.harvard.edu by husc.harvard.edu with SMTP; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 06:44:32 -0400 Message-Id: <199506081044.GAA06896@husc.harvard.edu> Received: from fas.harvard.edu by scunix4.harvard.edu with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA21289; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 06:45:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 06:45:17 -0400 X-Sender: chan4@scunix3.harvard.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: chan4@husc.harvard.edu (Derek V. Chan) Subject: Re: USR "V.Everything" Modem...(comments?) X-Mailer: >Okay, I saw one of these PCMCIA pups in PC Magazine (pg. 36 - June 11, >1995). It looks cool (w/ the status lights and dual phone jacks). My >question is...has anyone heard any good or bad things about the USR? Thanks. > Sorry for following up my own post, but also, does anyone know if these modems work w/ OS/2 and/or Linux? Thanks. -- "Dear Jim. . . IBM has been interested for some time in pursuing a business combination with Lotus. Because you have been unwilling to proceed with such a transaction, we are announcing this morning our intention to buy all of Lotus Development Corporation's outstanding common shares. . ." -- Louis V. Gerstner 6/5/95 Derek V. Chan dvchan@netcom.com chan4@fas.harvard.edu From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 8 10:10:52 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08336; Thu, 8 Jun 95 10:10:52 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10048; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:56:31 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:56:30 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from snapple.engr.wisc.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA10037; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:56:28 -0400 Received: from toddspc.engr.wisc.edu (toddspc.engr.wisc.edu [144.92.12.78]) by snapple.engr.wisc.edu (8.6.10 CAE/8.6.10) with SMTP id IAA27531; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 08:56:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 08:56:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199506081356.IAA27531@snapple.engr.wisc.edu> X-Sender: tannenba@serv0.cae.wisc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1b2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Martin.Patterson@France.Sun.COM (Martin Patterson - Sun Microsystems), tp750@CS.UTK.EDU From: Todd Tannenbaum Subject: Re: 755c audio on Windows 95 At 11:22 AM 6/8/95 +0200, Martin Patterson - Sun Microsystems wrote: > >There have been lots of questions about getting 755c audio working in different >environments, here's one more. > >I would like to know if anyone has got the 755c audio device working under >Windows 95 (beta)...? Or NT 3.51? > well, i am running windows 95 on a 755CE.... here is the poop: *Windows 95*: no problem, audio works perfectly (both MIDI and WAV, and SB in DOS). I do not know for certain about a 755c, but I strongly suspect that it will work fine as well. why? because windows 95 tries to use the spiffy new 32-bit Windows 95 drivers for all devices. however, if a 32-bit driver does not exist for a device, windows 95 can use the old windows 3.1 16-bit driver. on my thinkpad 755CE running windows 95, i am using native 32-bit drivers for disk drive, pcmcia controller (no more ibm ezplay required, no more zillions of dos tsrs for pcmcia plug'n'play: it is all built into win 95), 3com pcmcia ethernet card, and the western digital video chipset in the thinkpad. for audio, i am using the old win 3.1 driver from ibm (oh, and yes, all other mwave stuff continues to work fine). windows 95 even _autodetected_ my ibm port replicator, and setup 2 configurations automatically (docked and undocked). oh, and the win95 pcmcia support also handles the extra slots in the port replicator just fine. using the 32-bit video driver with the western digital video is very nice; you can switch screen resolutions "on the fly" without exiting windows. with the pcmcia drivers, novell drivers (built in to win95), winsock tcp/ip (also built in), audio, etc, my ms-dos windows in win95 still have 608K available! before win95, my config.sys was about 70 lines long (multiple configurations, pcmcia/cdrom/novell drivers, etc); now, it is 3 lines long and everything works better. note i am using build 480 (significantly newer than the "official last beta" release). i was very, very skeptical about win95; but so far, it has far exceeded my expectations in practically every aspect. for the easiest install on a thinkpad, BACKUP YOUR ENTIRE HARD DISK!!!, and then install Win95 _on top of_ your win3.1 installation (i.e. install into c:\windows). this is more of a pain if things do not work out, but it makes the install easier because win95 can then automatically grab any 16bit drivers it needs (like for audio) on the fly by analyzing your \windows\system.ini, etc. I am not going to involve myself in an OS flame war; i think it is impossible to say if Win95 is better/worse than OS/2 Warp. However, i say with 100% confidence that Win95 is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better than win3.1 !!!! (damn well should be after 4+ years!!!) *Windows NT*: i investigated this recently, and there are no audio drivers available for NT on a Thinkpad. Even worse, there are no video drivers either: you are stuck with standard VGA, i.e. 640x480 at 16 colors. and NT 3.51 pcmcia support is rather barebones. Win NT (unlike win95) _cannot_ utilize win3.1 drivers. does anybody know if Win95 32-bit drivers are compatible with Win NT drivers? can i take the win95 32-bit video driver and use it in NT? (i personally doubt it) --------- Todd Tannenbaum CAE Model Advanced Facility email: tannenba@engr.wisc.edu ph: 608-262-3118 From owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Thu Jun 8 18:42:13 1995 Received: from CS.UTK.EDU by martigny.ai.mit.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10639; Thu, 8 Jun 95 18:42:13 -0400 Return-Path: Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12833; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 18:23:42 -0400 X-Resent-To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU ; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 18:23:39 EDT Errors-To: owner-tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Received: from taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id SAA12788; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 18:23:37 -0400 Received: from holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil by taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06179; Thu, 8 Jun 95 15:23:11 PDT Received: by holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) for tp750@CS.UTK.EDU id PAA02588; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 15:20:12 -0700 From: "Robert George" Message-Id: <9506081520.ZM2586@holmes.cs.nps.navy.mil> Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 15:20:11 -0700 In-Reply-To: dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU (Robert Dewar) "Re: is there interest in a thinkpad unix list?" (Jun 6, 5:56am) References: <9506060956.AA07927@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: tp750@CS.UTK.EDU Subject: Re: is there interest in a thinkpad unix list? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jun 6, 5:56am, Robert Dewar wrote: > Subject: Re: is there interest in a thinkpad unix list? > This is a very low volume list in any case, so I really don't > see any point in splitting it. >-- End of excerpt from Robert Dewar You're kidding, right?!!! There were 89 messages posted to this mailing list from Monday through Wednesday! This includes 15 from dewar@GNAT.CS.NYU.EDU on Monday and Tuesday alone :) Robert